1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:02,480 Speaker 1: The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 2 00:00:02,520 --> 00:00:04,320 Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. 3 00:00:06,400 --> 00:00:07,400 Speaker 2: Cowboys. 4 00:00:09,480 --> 00:00:14,400 Speaker 1: This is The Route Tree, broadcasting live on Dallascowboys dot 5 00:00:14,440 --> 00:00:16,480 Speaker 1: Com and the Dallas Cowboys app. 6 00:00:16,920 --> 00:00:19,119 Speaker 3: Now your host, Drew. 7 00:00:19,120 --> 00:00:23,680 Speaker 4: Pearson, Welcome to another exciting episode of The Route Tree. 8 00:00:23,720 --> 00:00:26,520 Speaker 4: I'm your host, the original number eighty eight, former Dallas 9 00:00:26,600 --> 00:00:30,360 Speaker 4: Cowboy and NFL Hall of Famer Drew Pearson. Today, We've 10 00:00:30,400 --> 00:00:33,599 Speaker 4: got a special guest who knows all about making changing 11 00:00:33,720 --> 00:00:38,800 Speaker 4: plays in game situations. None other than former Dallas Cowboy, 12 00:00:38,920 --> 00:00:45,080 Speaker 4: All Pro, All Pro, Pro Bowl cornerback, NFL interception leader 13 00:00:45,400 --> 00:00:49,280 Speaker 4: Everson Wallas is with us. Wait. From his standout years 14 00:00:49,320 --> 00:00:53,080 Speaker 4: with the Cowboys to this unfregettable role in some of 15 00:00:53,120 --> 00:00:56,880 Speaker 4: the legs biggest moments, Everson brings a wealth of stories, 16 00:00:56,920 --> 00:01:00,800 Speaker 4: insights in football wisdom. Let's get ready to dive into 17 00:01:00,840 --> 00:01:04,080 Speaker 4: what Everson Walls is all about. We're gonna talk about 18 00:01:04,160 --> 00:01:08,319 Speaker 4: Hamilton Park. We're gonna talk about Berkner because he's a 19 00:01:08,360 --> 00:01:11,560 Speaker 4: local guy. He's from Dallas and grew up right down 20 00:01:11,640 --> 00:01:14,600 Speaker 4: the street from the Cowboy practice field. How about that 21 00:01:14,680 --> 00:01:18,520 Speaker 4: and ended up as a Dallas Cowboy, had to take 22 00:01:18,560 --> 00:01:21,760 Speaker 4: the long route to get there through free agency like 23 00:01:21,840 --> 00:01:25,240 Speaker 4: your brother right here right, that's right, and welcome to 24 00:01:25,280 --> 00:01:27,520 Speaker 4: the show, Everson Walls. Thanks for taking the time to 25 00:01:27,520 --> 00:01:28,040 Speaker 4: be with us. 26 00:01:28,040 --> 00:01:31,679 Speaker 2: It's no point I should be interviewing you for real, man, 27 00:01:31,920 --> 00:01:34,360 Speaker 2: I mean, and I'm not just a blow smoke. But 28 00:01:35,440 --> 00:01:38,559 Speaker 2: you know, uh, people, I tell people all this time. 29 00:01:38,880 --> 00:01:40,640 Speaker 2: They look at me and they always say, hey, that 30 00:01:40,800 --> 00:01:44,200 Speaker 2: goes up. I think that's your Pierson And I'm like, no, man, 31 00:01:44,200 --> 00:01:48,120 Speaker 2: I'm never get I get the comparison because of our 32 00:01:48,160 --> 00:01:51,440 Speaker 2: stories right right right. And I asked you, I said, 33 00:01:51,640 --> 00:01:54,200 Speaker 2: has anyone ever called you Everson Walls? You said no, No? 34 00:01:55,280 --> 00:01:59,440 Speaker 4: What why we got both got different names. We don't 35 00:01:59,440 --> 00:02:00,760 Speaker 4: see our everywhere. 36 00:02:00,800 --> 00:02:03,280 Speaker 2: But it's like, man, why is it that they call 37 00:02:03,600 --> 00:02:07,680 Speaker 2: me you? But you never get mistaken in that same route? Man. 38 00:02:07,960 --> 00:02:10,680 Speaker 4: The only thing I could think of ever sin the hands. 39 00:02:10,960 --> 00:02:13,840 Speaker 4: All right, you had good ads, Yes, that said you 40 00:02:13,880 --> 00:02:18,200 Speaker 4: had the second best hands on the team. Tony Hill 41 00:02:18,280 --> 00:02:22,720 Speaker 4: was toy I won't, I won't, man, Yeah, but anything 42 00:02:22,800 --> 00:02:23,600 Speaker 4: you touched. 43 00:02:23,360 --> 00:02:25,400 Speaker 2: Your god, you know, not the way back? 44 00:02:25,440 --> 00:02:28,440 Speaker 4: Man, we got the leg interceptions And I was looking 45 00:02:28,480 --> 00:02:32,919 Speaker 4: at the Hall of Fame list for defensive backs and man, 46 00:02:33,000 --> 00:02:37,000 Speaker 4: I can't believe. You know the number of interceptions you 47 00:02:37,080 --> 00:02:40,560 Speaker 4: had fifty seven for your career, and there's guys going 48 00:02:40,600 --> 00:02:44,520 Speaker 4: in with thirty thirty four. Rendez Bomber, I know he's 49 00:02:44,520 --> 00:02:45,239 Speaker 4: a Hall of Famer. 50 00:02:45,400 --> 00:02:47,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, I give him all love. I give him all love. 51 00:02:47,720 --> 00:02:50,560 Speaker 4: If he's one, then you should I give him all loved. 52 00:02:50,639 --> 00:02:53,960 Speaker 2: Drew. Yeah, I remember. My only time but that I 53 00:02:53,960 --> 00:02:56,920 Speaker 2: think the biggest disappointment was my only time that I 54 00:02:57,040 --> 00:03:00,760 Speaker 2: was up for a modern day was my last year 55 00:03:00,840 --> 00:03:03,840 Speaker 2: of eligibility. That just means I didn't get the support, 56 00:03:04,360 --> 00:03:06,480 Speaker 2: you know, from the different organizations that I played for, 57 00:03:06,560 --> 00:03:09,760 Speaker 2: and that that that's just something I've come to grips with. 58 00:03:09,840 --> 00:03:14,840 Speaker 2: But you know when you're talking about, uh that one time, yeah, 59 00:03:14,919 --> 00:03:18,000 Speaker 2: one time I was up, you were the finalist, Yeah, yeah, 60 00:03:18,120 --> 00:03:19,519 Speaker 2: and then all of a sudden you went all the 61 00:03:19,560 --> 00:03:22,880 Speaker 2: way up there and everything. I went up there. I said, 62 00:03:23,080 --> 00:03:26,040 Speaker 2: you got the no, I got the call. When the 63 00:03:26,120 --> 00:03:28,639 Speaker 2: ring the ring, you don't want? You want? 64 00:03:28,680 --> 00:03:30,120 Speaker 4: You had your family and everything. 65 00:03:30,280 --> 00:03:32,480 Speaker 2: Yea, yeah, we had tequila and everything in the wow 66 00:03:32,639 --> 00:03:33,680 Speaker 2: were wild party. 67 00:03:33,800 --> 00:03:36,440 Speaker 4: So what do you do after you with that kind 68 00:03:36,480 --> 00:03:38,120 Speaker 4: of disappointment had to hurt you, Bro. 69 00:03:38,280 --> 00:03:41,120 Speaker 2: It did hurt you know me, man? You know? Yeah, 70 00:03:41,160 --> 00:03:45,520 Speaker 2: you roll and it's okay. And I remember they gave 71 00:03:45,600 --> 00:03:48,720 Speaker 2: us the instruction. They closed the door to our hotel room, 72 00:03:49,160 --> 00:03:51,360 Speaker 2: and before I could even go check my phone, the 73 00:03:51,520 --> 00:03:54,320 Speaker 2: phone ring, man, and I'm like, hey, who is this? 74 00:03:54,640 --> 00:03:56,440 Speaker 2: Goa hey, we just want to let you know, man, 75 00:03:56,440 --> 00:03:57,720 Speaker 2: you didn't make it, but we want to see you 76 00:03:57,760 --> 00:04:00,920 Speaker 2: downstairs and downstairs to what where? You have to go 77 00:04:00,960 --> 00:04:05,200 Speaker 2: to the honors event, which is televised, and you have 78 00:04:05,240 --> 00:04:07,600 Speaker 2: to sit there with your family and as they go 79 00:04:07,640 --> 00:04:11,160 Speaker 2: through the whole program and introduce the guys that did 80 00:04:11,240 --> 00:04:14,040 Speaker 2: make it. And so you think I'm gonna hurry my 81 00:04:14,040 --> 00:04:16,719 Speaker 2: butt down there that I took my time. We drank 82 00:04:16,800 --> 00:04:20,800 Speaker 2: about three four shots and we say we just we 83 00:04:20,920 --> 00:04:24,920 Speaker 2: all commiserated. My sisters, my wife, everybody was in the room. 84 00:04:25,279 --> 00:04:27,880 Speaker 2: We all commiserated. My baby brother was in there. But 85 00:04:27,960 --> 00:04:31,479 Speaker 2: you know what, the experience was fun. And I tell 86 00:04:31,480 --> 00:04:33,560 Speaker 2: people all the time as we talk about the disappointment, 87 00:04:34,960 --> 00:04:38,200 Speaker 2: I have been honored by people like yourself, guys that 88 00:04:38,240 --> 00:04:43,960 Speaker 2: are already in coaches that I helped win. I helped 89 00:04:44,000 --> 00:04:46,960 Speaker 2: Belichick and parselves to their Super Bowl, one of their 90 00:04:47,000 --> 00:04:49,719 Speaker 2: Super Bowl wins. Those guys believe in me. You guys 91 00:04:49,720 --> 00:04:51,520 Speaker 2: believe in me, Guys trust me and all of that. 92 00:04:51,640 --> 00:04:53,560 Speaker 2: So to me, if I don't make it, and this 93 00:04:53,640 --> 00:04:56,440 Speaker 2: is real, if I don't make it, I'm fine with 94 00:04:56,720 --> 00:05:01,000 Speaker 2: that knowledge and this ain't no right, fine with that knowledge, right, 95 00:05:01,360 --> 00:05:03,360 Speaker 2: I'm ready to deal with that how it comes. 96 00:05:03,440 --> 00:05:05,560 Speaker 4: You know why you find because you got the respects 97 00:05:05,839 --> 00:05:08,080 Speaker 4: of your teammates, you know, that's all. I don't want it, 98 00:05:08,200 --> 00:05:10,640 Speaker 4: and I felt the same way. Maybe if it comes, 99 00:05:10,640 --> 00:05:14,599 Speaker 4: it comes, But I know my teammates respect men the 100 00:05:14,600 --> 00:05:19,000 Speaker 4: way you played the game, and that's right. So anyway, 101 00:05:19,240 --> 00:05:22,680 Speaker 4: that was tough in uh situation. I never got that 102 00:05:22,839 --> 00:05:27,440 Speaker 4: kind of close where I, you know, had to cry. Well, 103 00:05:27,480 --> 00:05:30,239 Speaker 4: I did cry. Well, I didn't go that centennial class. 104 00:05:30,279 --> 00:05:33,080 Speaker 2: Well, that was your advice to me, was, yeah, hey, man, 105 00:05:33,080 --> 00:05:35,080 Speaker 2: if you want to get in, maybe you should start crying. 106 00:05:35,920 --> 00:05:39,080 Speaker 4: You told me that, you told me, yeah, give it up, 107 00:05:39,160 --> 00:05:42,799 Speaker 4: give it up because they might think, uh think again. Yeah. 108 00:05:42,960 --> 00:05:45,839 Speaker 4: But anyway, I'm looking at the list of Hall of Famers. 109 00:05:45,880 --> 00:05:49,640 Speaker 4: You got fifty seven total receptions and interceptions in your career. 110 00:05:50,240 --> 00:05:53,000 Speaker 4: The top interception leader did you know who that is? 111 00:05:53,480 --> 00:05:58,080 Speaker 2: Bradley Paul Kraus, Krause, I get all the time eighty 112 00:05:58,160 --> 00:05:59,159 Speaker 2: one one. 113 00:05:59,279 --> 00:06:02,680 Speaker 4: You know what of his interceptions or overthrows? Yes, he 114 00:06:02,760 --> 00:06:05,320 Speaker 4: played so deep. You know when we did the Hell 115 00:06:05,440 --> 00:06:08,000 Speaker 4: Mary's thing, the one guy we had to get out 116 00:06:08,040 --> 00:06:12,680 Speaker 4: of the way, Not Nate right, not Bobby Bryant, was 117 00:06:12,760 --> 00:06:16,159 Speaker 4: Paul Kraus because he's gonna hang back there. He was late, 118 00:06:16,320 --> 00:06:18,880 Speaker 4: and he was late. He was late, he was late. 119 00:06:19,120 --> 00:06:21,200 Speaker 4: But anyway, he's all time. But I'm looking at the 120 00:06:21,240 --> 00:06:28,719 Speaker 4: guys that are in that you have more interceptions than 121 00:06:29,520 --> 00:06:33,880 Speaker 4: you know, Guys like Aneas Williams, Eric Allen who just 122 00:06:33,920 --> 00:06:40,200 Speaker 4: went in. Williams got fifty five, and even Len Barney, 123 00:06:40,600 --> 00:06:44,479 Speaker 4: oh my god, yes, the famous the best Lembarney number 124 00:06:44,480 --> 00:06:51,680 Speaker 4: twenty Oh yes, Mel Blunt, Willie Brown, Daryl Green and 125 00:06:51,760 --> 00:06:56,720 Speaker 4: all those. I'm rena Hall of famers, Okay, Dion ty Low. 126 00:06:58,160 --> 00:07:00,320 Speaker 2: Me and Tyl. We talked a lot. We talked a lot. 127 00:07:00,400 --> 00:07:01,440 Speaker 2: That's just sets like. 128 00:07:01,360 --> 00:07:03,640 Speaker 4: I'm gonna run out of breath name and all these 129 00:07:04,120 --> 00:07:07,559 Speaker 4: Champ Valley, yeap, Jack Butler, he must be old school. 130 00:07:07,720 --> 00:07:12,040 Speaker 4: Bobby Dylon, old school man. And no renfro Fro. You 131 00:07:12,160 --> 00:07:16,120 Speaker 4: got Martin fro Larry Wilson, I played against him. 132 00:07:17,320 --> 00:07:23,040 Speaker 2: I think the distinction of that list is guys getting 133 00:07:23,080 --> 00:07:26,760 Speaker 2: interceptions as cornerbacks versus a safety. That good and I 134 00:07:26,800 --> 00:07:30,520 Speaker 2: think I got the majority of mine ninety percent of 135 00:07:30,320 --> 00:07:34,080 Speaker 2: my picks just playing cornerback, playing safety. As you talk 136 00:07:34,120 --> 00:07:37,920 Speaker 2: about his overthrows, and I respect all safety, especially somebody 137 00:07:37,960 --> 00:07:40,800 Speaker 2: like a Jake Rip. You know, the way this guy 138 00:07:41,000 --> 00:07:43,640 Speaker 2: was played, He's totally different from a crowd. So of 139 00:07:44,240 --> 00:07:47,680 Speaker 2: those guys, the way he played with the Baltimore Ravens. 140 00:07:48,040 --> 00:07:50,280 Speaker 2: You know, Belichick gives him all the credit in the 141 00:07:50,280 --> 00:07:53,360 Speaker 2: world about how he can cover so much ground, but 142 00:07:53,400 --> 00:07:55,640 Speaker 2: he doesn't cheat at it. He doesn't line up deep. 143 00:07:55,640 --> 00:07:57,920 Speaker 2: This guy's lined up at ten twelve yards and he 144 00:07:57,960 --> 00:08:00,800 Speaker 2: can make plays like a true safety. And then you know, 145 00:08:00,880 --> 00:08:03,160 Speaker 2: so those are the kind of guys that play safety. Well, 146 00:08:03,360 --> 00:08:06,720 Speaker 2: were talking about cornerback position. Mail n from myself, Champ Bailey, 147 00:08:07,480 --> 00:08:11,400 Speaker 2: Eric Allen, those guys. That's a prideful thing because we're 148 00:08:11,440 --> 00:08:14,600 Speaker 2: going up against guys like yourself. It's me and you. 149 00:08:15,080 --> 00:08:17,720 Speaker 2: There's no uh, you know, you can't like you don't 150 00:08:17,720 --> 00:08:19,800 Speaker 2: have it. You can't cheat and look at the quarterback 151 00:08:19,840 --> 00:08:22,160 Speaker 2: as you play. I got to react off of you. 152 00:08:22,600 --> 00:08:24,640 Speaker 2: That's the kind of pride that you take. Like you 153 00:08:24,680 --> 00:08:27,120 Speaker 2: take pride in beating us, we take that pride and 154 00:08:27,160 --> 00:08:30,640 Speaker 2: getting that pit man and just having that ability to 155 00:08:30,680 --> 00:08:34,200 Speaker 2: do that and to go one on one and be 156 00:08:34,280 --> 00:08:36,680 Speaker 2: taught by guys like yourself and then take that into 157 00:08:36,760 --> 00:08:39,960 Speaker 2: the game as an undrafted free agent. Oh man, I 158 00:08:39,960 --> 00:08:41,720 Speaker 2: took so much pride in that it's ridiculous. 159 00:08:42,000 --> 00:08:45,040 Speaker 4: And then most of the time you played, you played 160 00:08:45,040 --> 00:08:48,280 Speaker 4: after the mail blunt rule. I did you know the 161 00:08:48,320 --> 00:08:48,840 Speaker 4: one bump? 162 00:08:49,000 --> 00:08:54,319 Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, so we and you took advantage that one. God. 163 00:08:55,800 --> 00:08:58,800 Speaker 4: I love that, you know, because before that you couldn't 164 00:08:58,800 --> 00:09:00,480 Speaker 4: get off the line on Melbourn want. 165 00:09:00,360 --> 00:09:03,000 Speaker 2: And so now you have to be able to read routes. 166 00:09:03,520 --> 00:09:05,280 Speaker 2: I coach some kids every once in a while in 167 00:09:05,320 --> 00:09:08,160 Speaker 2: these little camps that they have in the summer, and 168 00:09:08,320 --> 00:09:09,960 Speaker 2: I tried to let them know, you can beat up 169 00:09:09,960 --> 00:09:12,080 Speaker 2: a guy the at the at the point of attack 170 00:09:12,120 --> 00:09:14,520 Speaker 2: all you want, but you have to read his route 171 00:09:14,520 --> 00:09:17,560 Speaker 2: and understand what he's trying to do. And that allowed 172 00:09:17,600 --> 00:09:22,400 Speaker 2: me to jump routes because one thing that I was 173 00:09:22,800 --> 00:09:25,040 Speaker 2: and this is once again no smoke, I was a 174 00:09:25,040 --> 00:09:29,959 Speaker 2: cowboy fan. So you know knowing your undrafted status, knowing 175 00:09:30,000 --> 00:09:34,640 Speaker 2: your lack of speed status, knowing your cageness status. That 176 00:09:34,960 --> 00:09:38,560 Speaker 2: is how I was as a in high school. Oh wow. 177 00:09:38,600 --> 00:09:41,360 Speaker 2: I was a wide receiver in high school, so I 178 00:09:41,400 --> 00:09:44,760 Speaker 2: never wanted to play defensive that I was horrible. I 179 00:09:44,880 --> 00:09:47,400 Speaker 2: was horrible. I mean playing against Lake Hollands junior high 180 00:09:47,920 --> 00:09:51,080 Speaker 2: I was at Forest Medals and I was at I was, 181 00:09:51,400 --> 00:09:54,240 Speaker 2: I was a dB and I was a free safety 182 00:09:54,440 --> 00:09:57,160 Speaker 2: and some dude ran by me on a post route. 183 00:09:57,360 --> 00:10:00,959 Speaker 2: I'm playing defensive back of the safety. No way I'm 184 00:10:00,960 --> 00:10:03,120 Speaker 2: supposed to give up a post race route. And I 185 00:10:03,160 --> 00:10:06,079 Speaker 2: started thinking, Man, I really suck at football. I started 186 00:10:06,080 --> 00:10:09,960 Speaker 2: playing basketball after that next thing, you know, getting trouble 187 00:10:10,000 --> 00:10:14,120 Speaker 2: in basketball. Have no no, no, no sports at all 188 00:10:14,200 --> 00:10:17,280 Speaker 2: to play my junior year and I go to my 189 00:10:17,360 --> 00:10:21,600 Speaker 2: high school coach, the late coach, Coach Allen Coach Allen 190 00:10:21,640 --> 00:10:24,840 Speaker 2: Holiday and uh he ended up. He passed on, and 191 00:10:24,880 --> 00:10:26,840 Speaker 2: I spoke at his funeral and told the story of 192 00:10:26,880 --> 00:10:31,600 Speaker 2: how he gave me the chance to get some structure 193 00:10:31,760 --> 00:10:34,320 Speaker 2: back in my life because I was. I was. I 194 00:10:34,400 --> 00:10:39,360 Speaker 2: was Buck Wilder at that time, very antagonistic about everything 195 00:10:39,400 --> 00:10:42,880 Speaker 2: that was going on in Texas. And and just you know, 196 00:10:42,920 --> 00:10:45,200 Speaker 2: around the world. So I think I was one of 197 00:10:45,200 --> 00:10:47,960 Speaker 2: those guys that always wanted to protest, and once I 198 00:10:48,040 --> 00:10:52,120 Speaker 2: got that part of it down, Uh, it allowed me 199 00:10:52,280 --> 00:10:55,959 Speaker 2: to be a type of a leader on the teams 200 00:10:55,960 --> 00:10:58,600 Speaker 2: that I played for. I was a voice for those 201 00:10:58,600 --> 00:11:00,520 Speaker 2: guys that didn't have a voice. 202 00:11:01,360 --> 00:11:06,280 Speaker 4: You went from Hamilton Park to ber Yes, yeah, yes, 203 00:11:06,360 --> 00:11:09,360 Speaker 4: that's the coach you were talking about right right holiday. 204 00:11:09,760 --> 00:11:12,800 Speaker 2: He was a guy. He allowed me to play spring 205 00:11:12,920 --> 00:11:15,800 Speaker 2: ball and next thing you know, I'm starting at free 206 00:11:15,840 --> 00:11:20,280 Speaker 2: safety for Berner High School my senior year and I 207 00:11:20,360 --> 00:11:21,400 Speaker 2: didn't play any sports. 208 00:11:21,520 --> 00:11:24,920 Speaker 4: So this is maybe well after that, you had a 209 00:11:24,920 --> 00:11:26,600 Speaker 4: good senior year that I did. 210 00:11:26,600 --> 00:11:30,120 Speaker 2: I had. I ended up leading the district and interceptions 211 00:11:30,120 --> 00:11:32,760 Speaker 2: with a That's what I do. Yeah, that's what I 212 00:11:32,800 --> 00:11:36,120 Speaker 2: do as a safety. It's easy, but at the cornerback 213 00:11:36,360 --> 00:11:39,800 Speaker 2: as a senior, but as a cornerback to be able 214 00:11:39,840 --> 00:11:43,400 Speaker 2: to cover routes, that was something that I didn't learn 215 00:11:43,800 --> 00:11:46,480 Speaker 2: until I got to Grambling. I got you and going 216 00:11:46,559 --> 00:11:49,600 Speaker 2: up against Doug Williams, you know, he was going for 217 00:11:49,640 --> 00:11:53,720 Speaker 2: the Heisman Trophy. Coach Robinson was touting him. Not just 218 00:11:54,080 --> 00:11:58,280 Speaker 2: for Grambling. Coach Robinson was touting Doug Williams for all 219 00:11:58,360 --> 00:12:05,160 Speaker 2: black college quarterbacks that were out there, all of that for. 220 00:12:07,160 --> 00:12:10,760 Speaker 4: Maybe but him, Jimmy Ray up in Michigan, Michigan State, 221 00:12:11,760 --> 00:12:13,360 Speaker 4: maybe that might be might be it. 222 00:12:13,400 --> 00:12:17,040 Speaker 2: But but he was the only and first black college 223 00:12:17,080 --> 00:12:18,560 Speaker 2: quarterback to be up for the Heisman. 224 00:12:18,760 --> 00:12:19,000 Speaker 4: Wow. 225 00:12:19,160 --> 00:12:22,920 Speaker 2: And I played with him him and being able to 226 00:12:22,920 --> 00:12:26,120 Speaker 2: be under his tutelage in regards to making plays and 227 00:12:26,160 --> 00:12:30,120 Speaker 2: seeing what the real football looks like. Coming from a 228 00:12:30,200 --> 00:12:34,120 Speaker 2: stud like him, it was a totally different look. When 229 00:12:34,160 --> 00:12:39,480 Speaker 2: Doug Williams left practice, it was easy. His standard was 230 00:12:39,520 --> 00:12:43,280 Speaker 2: so high that when his backups came in. Then that's 231 00:12:43,320 --> 00:12:47,679 Speaker 2: when freshmen like ourselves who were punching bags for a Doug, 232 00:12:48,600 --> 00:12:52,080 Speaker 2: we're tearing up the backups. And so then we start 233 00:12:52,160 --> 00:12:54,400 Speaker 2: to realize. And I know for myself, I started to 234 00:12:54,440 --> 00:12:58,000 Speaker 2: realize based on my teammates who gave me so much 235 00:12:58,040 --> 00:13:00,920 Speaker 2: love at Grambling, I start to realiz, hey, I am 236 00:13:00,960 --> 00:13:03,880 Speaker 2: pretty good because at first I didn't have the confidence. 237 00:13:03,920 --> 00:13:06,680 Speaker 2: When you at the HBCU, you got these big old brothers, 238 00:13:07,080 --> 00:13:10,040 Speaker 2: fast dudes, and I'm like, WHOA, what is Everything was 239 00:13:10,080 --> 00:13:13,200 Speaker 2: just I had to And but I had teammates that 240 00:13:14,080 --> 00:13:16,640 Speaker 2: told me they believed in me more than myself, like, wow, 241 00:13:16,640 --> 00:13:18,920 Speaker 2: is you better than this? And I was. You know, 242 00:13:18,960 --> 00:13:21,120 Speaker 2: so when you're in college, you get to sleep on 243 00:13:21,200 --> 00:13:23,640 Speaker 2: it that night every night, right, I know you did 244 00:13:23,679 --> 00:13:26,760 Speaker 2: when you were you slept every night like, man, what 245 00:13:26,760 --> 00:13:28,959 Speaker 2: what mistakes did I make? How can I not make 246 00:13:28,960 --> 00:13:31,160 Speaker 2: that mistake again? Because I'm tired of getting embarrassed and 247 00:13:31,240 --> 00:13:33,679 Speaker 2: I want to start. I want to play, And so 248 00:13:33,880 --> 00:13:37,480 Speaker 2: that was my mindset. So that was my motivation and 249 00:13:37,960 --> 00:13:41,000 Speaker 2: having to go against someone of that caliber, and we 250 00:13:41,040 --> 00:13:44,199 Speaker 2: talked about it on our podcast here. Iron sharp and iron, 251 00:13:44,480 --> 00:13:47,320 Speaker 2: that's that's biblical. Iron sharpens iron, and that's what happened 252 00:13:47,360 --> 00:13:47,560 Speaker 2: with me. 253 00:13:47,720 --> 00:13:54,520 Speaker 4: Amen. So that Doug Williams was that influence as a player, 254 00:13:54,600 --> 00:13:58,640 Speaker 4: player to player, But what about coach to player? You played? 255 00:13:59,040 --> 00:14:06,200 Speaker 2: What a pretty face this coach? Okay, but yes, it 256 00:14:06,360 --> 00:14:12,240 Speaker 2: started with coach Rob. I think the impression that was 257 00:14:12,280 --> 00:14:15,440 Speaker 2: made upon him in my regard was this guy comes 258 00:14:15,440 --> 00:14:19,360 Speaker 2: from a strong family, uh, which is what he was 259 00:14:19,880 --> 00:14:23,280 Speaker 2: kind of accustomed to. Strong mothers. My mom drove me 260 00:14:23,360 --> 00:14:25,600 Speaker 2: down there. You know, we were in the corvette. My 261 00:14:25,640 --> 00:14:30,880 Speaker 2: mom you know how my mom, my ma motty. My 262 00:14:30,880 --> 00:14:34,160 Speaker 2: mom was so pretty, and she stepped into that beautiful 263 00:14:34,200 --> 00:14:37,400 Speaker 2: she stepped on that campus. You know, Coach Rob understood 264 00:14:37,400 --> 00:14:40,000 Speaker 2: that she was for real. You know, she's pretty. But 265 00:14:40,040 --> 00:14:44,160 Speaker 2: now she's fighting for her son because I had been 266 00:14:44,400 --> 00:14:47,280 Speaker 2: going through a lot of stuff when her mom, her 267 00:14:47,280 --> 00:14:50,800 Speaker 2: and dad got divorced, and I overcame a lot to 268 00:14:50,960 --> 00:14:53,960 Speaker 2: get to that point. And she was not gonna let 269 00:14:54,000 --> 00:14:57,360 Speaker 2: me stop there. And so her along with Cherrelle, my 270 00:14:57,400 --> 00:15:01,720 Speaker 2: wife girlfriend at the time, I follow her the grambling Wow, 271 00:15:01,880 --> 00:15:05,440 Speaker 2: I followed the grandar Crell was going for. She was 272 00:15:05,480 --> 00:15:07,960 Speaker 2: going first, you know, and I'm like, wait a minute, 273 00:15:07,960 --> 00:15:10,680 Speaker 2: I gotta do something because I don't want to go 274 00:15:10,760 --> 00:15:14,080 Speaker 2: to East Texas State. And No, Harvey put put his 275 00:15:14,160 --> 00:15:16,280 Speaker 2: stamp on that. I know, Harvey Martin put his stamp 276 00:15:16,320 --> 00:15:19,280 Speaker 2: on that. I didn't want to go there because it's 277 00:15:19,320 --> 00:15:23,160 Speaker 2: just an extension of Burgner. I needed to be at 278 00:15:23,200 --> 00:15:28,040 Speaker 2: a place like Grant and being there that that culture, uh, 279 00:15:28,160 --> 00:15:32,200 Speaker 2: the standard that was set for me. That's exactly what 280 00:15:32,280 --> 00:15:35,920 Speaker 2: I needed. And they really other than parents and how 281 00:15:35,960 --> 00:15:38,320 Speaker 2: they raised you, that's something that brought me to where 282 00:15:38,320 --> 00:15:38,920 Speaker 2: I am today. 283 00:15:39,080 --> 00:15:41,880 Speaker 4: Yeah, well it brought you a long way, bro, That's 284 00:15:42,000 --> 00:15:45,400 Speaker 4: that's what I'm saying, but it's always that foundation, that base, 285 00:15:45,680 --> 00:15:48,360 Speaker 4: you know, that makes the difference. And that is like 286 00:15:48,400 --> 00:15:50,600 Speaker 4: for me coming through high school football. My high school 287 00:15:50,640 --> 00:15:53,960 Speaker 4: football coaches did it the right way. They set the 288 00:15:54,040 --> 00:15:57,200 Speaker 4: necessary guidelines for discipline and what you need to do 289 00:15:57,320 --> 00:16:00,680 Speaker 4: to be an athlete or be successful at an athlete, 290 00:16:00,680 --> 00:16:02,440 Speaker 4: and you know, no matter what. 291 00:16:02,560 --> 00:16:06,640 Speaker 2: And here's the thing about athletes that are taught like that. 292 00:16:07,160 --> 00:16:09,760 Speaker 2: And people ask me who's my favorite. My best coach, 293 00:16:10,200 --> 00:16:13,960 Speaker 2: Eddie Rodd was the man. My father was my best period. 294 00:16:14,280 --> 00:16:15,960 Speaker 2: He was the one that showed me he went to 295 00:16:16,000 --> 00:16:18,720 Speaker 2: Prayer View A and M for a year. He actually 296 00:16:18,800 --> 00:16:20,200 Speaker 2: was the first person to go to college and his 297 00:16:20,320 --> 00:16:23,960 Speaker 2: family and so he set that standard for us. And 298 00:16:24,080 --> 00:16:26,160 Speaker 2: one thing he always taught me. I talk about it 299 00:16:26,200 --> 00:16:29,320 Speaker 2: all the time when I coach, even on podcast, you 300 00:16:29,360 --> 00:16:32,240 Speaker 2: gotta be where you're supposed to be. Son, you can't 301 00:16:32,240 --> 00:16:34,480 Speaker 2: be something. You gotta be where you're supposed to be 302 00:16:34,480 --> 00:16:38,040 Speaker 2: because that builds trust between you and your teammates and 303 00:16:38,080 --> 00:16:41,240 Speaker 2: the coach sees that you know what you're doing. So 304 00:16:41,280 --> 00:16:43,880 Speaker 2: that discipline you had was the same discipline that I had. 305 00:16:44,400 --> 00:16:47,480 Speaker 2: Meaning if you say cover two, cover three, I got 306 00:16:47,520 --> 00:16:49,800 Speaker 2: to be where I'm supposed to be, and they'll say, okay, 307 00:16:49,840 --> 00:16:51,680 Speaker 2: I can depend on that, dude, And I have to 308 00:16:51,720 --> 00:16:55,680 Speaker 2: do the drills correctly. I tell you that, you know this, 309 00:16:55,760 --> 00:16:57,280 Speaker 2: the drill we're gonna do. We're gonna break here and 310 00:16:57,280 --> 00:16:59,720 Speaker 2: break it. Then you gotta do that. And I was 311 00:16:59,760 --> 00:17:03,600 Speaker 2: able to follow those instructions. So it takes a little 312 00:17:03,600 --> 00:17:06,800 Speaker 2: bit of an intellect to show people that you can 313 00:17:06,800 --> 00:17:10,439 Speaker 2: play football. Even though it's a sport of being brutes, 314 00:17:11,040 --> 00:17:14,119 Speaker 2: it's also ap of intellects because you got to know, 315 00:17:14,720 --> 00:17:17,959 Speaker 2: if you are smart to receive your opponent, then you're 316 00:17:17,960 --> 00:17:18,679 Speaker 2: still winning the ball. 317 00:17:18,800 --> 00:17:21,080 Speaker 4: And a lot of that intellect is a preparation and 318 00:17:21,200 --> 00:17:24,199 Speaker 4: getting ready and ready to play. But you're you know, 319 00:17:24,240 --> 00:17:27,280 Speaker 4: it's the same thing. My dad was very much a disciplinarians. 320 00:17:27,520 --> 00:17:30,920 Speaker 4: We had no pass, no play in our house, way 321 00:17:31,280 --> 00:17:35,080 Speaker 4: before it came a thing had to be passed through Congress, 322 00:17:35,280 --> 00:17:38,480 Speaker 4: right and all that, you know, way before. But we 323 00:17:38,560 --> 00:17:42,000 Speaker 4: have the same similar story, man, the same similar story. 324 00:17:42,040 --> 00:17:46,239 Speaker 4: It's it's amazing how it looks that way, you know, 325 00:17:46,440 --> 00:17:52,160 Speaker 4: between us. But coming into the leg you didn't get drafted. 326 00:17:52,680 --> 00:17:55,240 Speaker 4: What was that like? You know? I mean, I know 327 00:17:55,320 --> 00:17:58,919 Speaker 4: how it hurt. I know, and I've had seventeen rounds 328 00:17:58,920 --> 00:18:04,560 Speaker 4: of the draft exactly two players, I know exactly how many? 329 00:18:06,080 --> 00:18:07,920 Speaker 4: You know, what did you feel like that? 330 00:18:08,000 --> 00:18:08,480 Speaker 2: I think that. 331 00:18:08,560 --> 00:18:11,240 Speaker 4: First of all, did you work out when anybody was 332 00:18:11,359 --> 00:18:13,159 Speaker 4: telling you that, yeah you got it? 333 00:18:13,359 --> 00:18:18,199 Speaker 2: No? No, not like that, no one, no, no that 334 00:18:18,320 --> 00:18:21,359 Speaker 2: four six, four seven, forty no. You know, because they 335 00:18:21,440 --> 00:18:24,000 Speaker 2: come to Grambling looking for speed, yeah oh yeah, and 336 00:18:24,080 --> 00:18:26,480 Speaker 2: so they're thinking, well, this guy got eleven interceptions, he 337 00:18:26,600 --> 00:18:29,520 Speaker 2: led the nation. He's keeping up with these fast receivers 338 00:18:29,520 --> 00:18:33,400 Speaker 2: throughout all the HBCUs, he must be fast. And boy, 339 00:18:33,440 --> 00:18:35,280 Speaker 2: when they looked at that clock, they were like wait, 340 00:18:35,880 --> 00:18:40,320 Speaker 2: like no, wait, you know, so it didn't bode well 341 00:18:40,400 --> 00:18:45,200 Speaker 2: for me. But uh, I was still thinking that eleven interceptions, 342 00:18:45,240 --> 00:18:48,600 Speaker 2: no matter what level you're playing on, that means the 343 00:18:48,640 --> 00:18:53,159 Speaker 2: guy must know some football. Eleven interceptions at cornerback, not 344 00:18:53,440 --> 00:18:56,400 Speaker 2: one player at safety. I was not playing safety at 345 00:18:56,400 --> 00:19:00,720 Speaker 2: that time, so I knew I was ready. But and 346 00:19:00,760 --> 00:19:04,159 Speaker 2: so all it did was just steadied me for what 347 00:19:04,320 --> 00:19:04,720 Speaker 2: was to come. 348 00:19:04,880 --> 00:19:08,600 Speaker 4: Yeah, eleven interceptions, yes, senior year, yes, and still in 349 00:19:08,760 --> 00:19:09,240 Speaker 4: good draft. 350 00:19:09,359 --> 00:19:09,520 Speaker 2: No. 351 00:19:10,520 --> 00:19:13,679 Speaker 4: Who were some of the do you remember defensive backs 352 00:19:13,680 --> 00:19:15,120 Speaker 4: that got drafted. 353 00:19:16,400 --> 00:19:21,240 Speaker 2: The late great Kenny Easily just passed that Kenny easily. Man, 354 00:19:21,280 --> 00:19:23,360 Speaker 2: those are the men. That's the same one, same year 355 00:19:23,440 --> 00:19:27,400 Speaker 2: eighty one, nineteen eighty one said those two guys they 356 00:19:27,400 --> 00:19:31,560 Speaker 2: were the standard. Of course, Lawrence Taylor was was the guy, 357 00:19:32,080 --> 00:19:36,520 Speaker 2: the man at linebacker. But Ronnie Lott and Lawrence Taylor, 358 00:19:36,640 --> 00:19:41,520 Speaker 2: Kenny Easily. And once again, when I talk about my 359 00:19:41,640 --> 00:19:45,160 Speaker 2: disappointments and comparing me to others, that does not mean 360 00:19:45,200 --> 00:19:46,520 Speaker 2: I'm putting down somebody like. 361 00:19:46,840 --> 00:19:49,600 Speaker 4: Look, Hall of Fame right light right. 362 00:19:49,280 --> 00:19:51,840 Speaker 2: Also Hall of Fame Kenny Easley, who went through so 363 00:19:52,040 --> 00:19:55,199 Speaker 2: much before he passed, and the dedication he dedicated his 364 00:19:55,240 --> 00:19:58,160 Speaker 2: whole body to the game. Man, those guys are studs. 365 00:19:58,520 --> 00:20:01,200 Speaker 2: So my point is not to put them down. I'm 366 00:20:01,200 --> 00:20:04,840 Speaker 2: trying to elevate myself to that because I did play 367 00:20:04,840 --> 00:20:05,040 Speaker 2: on that. 368 00:20:05,440 --> 00:20:08,119 Speaker 4: All you're saying is if they're Hall of famers, maybe 369 00:20:08,160 --> 00:20:10,119 Speaker 4: I should be one too. That's what I kept saying. 370 00:20:10,119 --> 00:20:13,280 Speaker 4: I see Steve Largent, you know he comes to Tulsa 371 00:20:13,320 --> 00:20:16,800 Speaker 4: as a freshman. I'm a senior. I know that, and 372 00:20:17,240 --> 00:20:19,879 Speaker 4: freshman couldn't play. But he beating my roommate, who was 373 00:20:19,920 --> 00:20:22,880 Speaker 4: a defensive math. My roommate say that boy boy got 374 00:20:22,920 --> 00:20:26,080 Speaker 4: some stuff. But uh, you know, I'm seeing him go in. 375 00:20:26,119 --> 00:20:28,560 Speaker 4: I see other receivers go in, and I'm saying, I 376 00:20:28,560 --> 00:20:31,840 Speaker 4: don't want to criticize that. You never want to criticize 377 00:20:31,840 --> 00:20:35,160 Speaker 4: the process, because ever since the best part of being 378 00:20:35,160 --> 00:20:38,359 Speaker 4: in the Hall of Fame is the Hall of Fame lunching. Wow, 379 00:20:38,600 --> 00:20:42,040 Speaker 4: it's just Hall of Fame. Guy, ain't no media, ain't no. 380 00:20:42,240 --> 00:20:45,040 Speaker 4: You know, it's just the players, and we talk about it. 381 00:20:45,040 --> 00:20:50,280 Speaker 4: It's like, you know, but you love for welcoming, welcomed you, Mike, 382 00:20:50,520 --> 00:20:53,520 Speaker 4: welcome you, and they let you know that things are 383 00:20:53,560 --> 00:20:56,760 Speaker 4: going to be different now that you can beat all 384 00:20:56,800 --> 00:20:59,360 Speaker 4: these other Hall of Fames, but now the Pro Football 385 00:20:59,400 --> 00:21:02,680 Speaker 4: Hall of Fame is different. Your time is gonna come. 386 00:21:02,800 --> 00:21:05,520 Speaker 4: Just be patient. And uh, you know, I'm looking at 387 00:21:05,520 --> 00:21:07,639 Speaker 4: the list of Hall of Fames. First of all, I 388 00:21:07,640 --> 00:21:14,280 Speaker 4: think there's only twenty two free agents really, and wow, 389 00:21:14,359 --> 00:21:16,960 Speaker 4: because when I went in, I was number three, five, three, 390 00:21:17,080 --> 00:21:20,400 Speaker 4: three hundred and fifty third player, So I twenty two 391 00:21:20,480 --> 00:21:24,119 Speaker 4: free agents and tour from the Cowboys, me and Cliff, 392 00:21:24,480 --> 00:21:25,320 Speaker 4: So we need to get. 393 00:21:25,280 --> 00:21:27,800 Speaker 2: Number three up there, right right. 394 00:21:27,920 --> 00:21:29,960 Speaker 4: But I look at these guys, you know there's like 395 00:21:30,000 --> 00:21:32,479 Speaker 4: you mentioned Roddy Lot, he had sixty three in orse. 396 00:21:33,359 --> 00:21:36,920 Speaker 4: I didn't know, yes, man, Yeah, I laid against him 397 00:21:37,119 --> 00:21:38,639 Speaker 4: when he was a rookie, and I tried to take 398 00:21:38,720 --> 00:21:39,800 Speaker 4: him out on the first. 399 00:21:41,080 --> 00:21:43,560 Speaker 2: It's hard to take that man out, boy, that had 400 00:21:43,600 --> 00:21:44,200 Speaker 2: to take them. 401 00:21:44,200 --> 00:21:47,159 Speaker 4: I was in for a long afternoon and him and 402 00:21:47,280 --> 00:21:50,640 Speaker 4: Darrell Green. I tried to jack Darwell Green. Darrel Green 403 00:21:50,680 --> 00:21:53,399 Speaker 4: played twenty years that corner and he played it well. Well, 404 00:21:53,600 --> 00:21:56,600 Speaker 4: well yeah, let's see, he's not even on this list 405 00:21:56,640 --> 00:21:59,399 Speaker 4: of interceptions. Let's see, well Dell had he was not 406 00:21:59,520 --> 00:22:01,680 Speaker 4: known for Yeah, fifty four, but it. 407 00:22:01,680 --> 00:22:04,920 Speaker 2: Took him like seventeen years to get it. Yeah, yeah, 408 00:22:05,800 --> 00:22:08,119 Speaker 2: twenty twenty years. 409 00:22:08,160 --> 00:22:09,239 Speaker 4: He I just saw him. 410 00:22:09,640 --> 00:22:12,920 Speaker 2: D you played twenty years, man. Well, he was known 411 00:22:12,960 --> 00:22:17,840 Speaker 2: for having at least one interception every year he played. 412 00:22:18,400 --> 00:22:22,280 Speaker 2: It was a long streak of one interception. I'm like, okay, 413 00:22:22,640 --> 00:22:24,919 Speaker 2: one interception of the year. Yeah, I mean that's pretty 414 00:22:25,080 --> 00:22:26,800 Speaker 2: That's that's not pretty, low boy. 415 00:22:27,080 --> 00:22:30,560 Speaker 4: Yeah, one a year, Yeah, one a year. Yeah, I 416 00:22:30,560 --> 00:22:33,480 Speaker 4: can slip up and make it right. Ever, so we're 417 00:22:33,480 --> 00:22:35,160 Speaker 4: gonna take a break, but I want to talk about 418 00:22:35,160 --> 00:22:38,520 Speaker 4: some of the best receivers you played against and some 419 00:22:38,560 --> 00:22:41,280 Speaker 4: of the receivers that gave you the toughest time, some 420 00:22:41,320 --> 00:22:44,520 Speaker 4: of the receivers that you knew going in. 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Don't set it out it restrictions and 468 00:24:53,840 --> 00:24:59,680 Speaker 9: exclusion apply. Set dot Com SLUCH guarantee for full details. 469 00:25:00,240 --> 00:25:03,199 Speaker 4: Roup Tree Welcome back to the Route Tree Talking to 470 00:25:03,240 --> 00:25:07,240 Speaker 4: Everson Walls Number twenty four for the Dallas Cowboys. Interception 471 00:25:07,480 --> 00:25:12,760 Speaker 4: Deluxe fifty seven. Interception eleven, your rookie year. They were 472 00:25:12,800 --> 00:25:16,760 Speaker 4: thrown at you, weren't they They were catching you didn't. 473 00:25:17,520 --> 00:25:19,639 Speaker 2: As a wide receiver, you would know just how the 474 00:25:19,680 --> 00:25:23,240 Speaker 2: family phraise that question. Yes, they were coming at you. 475 00:25:23,280 --> 00:25:24,320 Speaker 4: They were coming at you. 476 00:25:24,680 --> 00:25:27,080 Speaker 2: And I think I took a little pride in that 477 00:25:27,200 --> 00:25:28,879 Speaker 2: because you know, a lot of people can say, well 478 00:25:28,920 --> 00:25:32,199 Speaker 2: I never got beat that much. Well, I did first 479 00:25:32,240 --> 00:25:36,359 Speaker 2: half of the season, but yet the same time, never 480 00:25:36,440 --> 00:25:38,840 Speaker 2: gave up. You're not gonna beat me into the ground. 481 00:25:38,880 --> 00:25:41,240 Speaker 2: I'm getting mine. And that was when I was playing. 482 00:25:41,359 --> 00:25:43,560 Speaker 2: I wasn't playing well at all first half of the season, 483 00:25:43,760 --> 00:25:46,240 Speaker 2: yet still enough to start at the same time still 484 00:25:46,320 --> 00:25:49,960 Speaker 2: leading the league in interceptions. I remember watching a video 485 00:25:50,359 --> 00:25:54,400 Speaker 2: some they send you stuff online these days, and Matten 486 00:25:54,600 --> 00:25:57,640 Speaker 2: had said, yeah, they were coming at him early in 487 00:25:57,720 --> 00:26:01,840 Speaker 2: his career, his first half of the season, and then 488 00:26:01,920 --> 00:26:04,080 Speaker 2: I think this was game sixteen or whatever, I think 489 00:26:04,080 --> 00:26:07,040 Speaker 2: it was against Philadelphia. He goes, But right now he's 490 00:26:07,040 --> 00:26:10,600 Speaker 2: one of the best defensive backs in the NFL. So 491 00:26:10,640 --> 00:26:14,040 Speaker 2: you look at those second eight games that I played 492 00:26:14,080 --> 00:26:17,840 Speaker 2: in the NFL, totally different down, totally different because now, 493 00:26:17,840 --> 00:26:21,160 Speaker 2: all of a sudden, I get it, things slowed down 494 00:26:21,240 --> 00:26:24,760 Speaker 2: for me. But I still take that pride in having 495 00:26:24,840 --> 00:26:29,000 Speaker 2: those interceptions early on when I wasn't playing well, I 496 00:26:29,080 --> 00:26:31,680 Speaker 2: was still able to make a whole bunch of plays. 497 00:26:32,080 --> 00:26:35,040 Speaker 2: You come at me fifteen seventeen times a game, yeah, 498 00:26:35,080 --> 00:26:41,720 Speaker 2: you're gonna catch some. I was targeted on average fifteen times. Again, wow, 499 00:26:42,040 --> 00:26:45,000 Speaker 2: fifteen times a game. So first of all, that lets 500 00:26:45,000 --> 00:26:45,879 Speaker 2: you know I was in shape. 501 00:26:45,920 --> 00:26:50,119 Speaker 4: What defense were you playing? Mostly one safety es on? 502 00:26:50,200 --> 00:26:51,960 Speaker 2: And you know, I try to explain it to people 503 00:26:51,960 --> 00:26:54,359 Speaker 2: all the time when we play thirty one safeties on, 504 00:26:55,160 --> 00:26:59,439 Speaker 2: if they come, if they go flow strong with both backs, 505 00:27:00,119 --> 00:27:06,120 Speaker 2: it turns into man to man, no help. Nowhere there's 506 00:27:06,160 --> 00:27:08,280 Speaker 2: a comfort zone of thirty one safety zone that's just 507 00:27:08,320 --> 00:27:13,159 Speaker 2: three D. It can turn into nothing. But you, you 508 00:27:13,240 --> 00:27:16,560 Speaker 2: and that guy and here I am just a young kid, 509 00:27:16,680 --> 00:27:18,520 Speaker 2: wasn't even twenty two years old yet. 510 00:27:18,760 --> 00:27:19,000 Speaker 4: Wow. 511 00:27:19,240 --> 00:27:21,600 Speaker 2: And so I had to stave them off early on. 512 00:27:21,920 --> 00:27:26,440 Speaker 2: And then finally I realized, even after eighty eight games, 513 00:27:26,920 --> 00:27:29,120 Speaker 2: I'm good at this and I'm going to get better. 514 00:27:29,760 --> 00:27:30,320 Speaker 2: And I did. 515 00:27:30,600 --> 00:27:34,440 Speaker 4: You did, Roland, because next year you had nine interceptions. 516 00:27:34,000 --> 00:27:36,520 Speaker 2: But I had not. I had seven picks, but it 517 00:27:36,600 --> 00:27:39,600 Speaker 2: was in nine games. Oh yeah, that's a strike year 518 00:27:39,680 --> 00:27:43,679 Speaker 2: right here. Yeah, if they played that whole season, we 519 00:27:43,720 --> 00:27:47,640 Speaker 2: played that whole I'm coming out Lane, I'm coming. 520 00:27:47,440 --> 00:27:50,280 Speaker 4: After night Lanes record, coming. 521 00:27:50,040 --> 00:27:53,600 Speaker 2: After and that year I can't. I can't say which 522 00:27:53,640 --> 00:27:56,520 Speaker 2: was my best year, but that's close to my best year. 523 00:27:57,960 --> 00:27:59,480 Speaker 4: Lane, sixty eight interception. 524 00:28:00,080 --> 00:28:01,080 Speaker 2: I want that single season. 525 00:28:01,119 --> 00:28:02,000 Speaker 4: It was a single season. 526 00:28:02,400 --> 00:28:05,480 Speaker 2: What iss fourteen fourteen? Yeah, I was coming for it. 527 00:28:05,680 --> 00:28:05,960 Speaker 4: Wow. 528 00:28:06,240 --> 00:28:10,159 Speaker 2: That's and I think the the good thing about it 529 00:28:10,320 --> 00:28:13,240 Speaker 2: was it it's hard for a player like myself who's 530 00:28:13,320 --> 00:28:17,320 Speaker 2: un orthodox, uh, to get the trust from his coaches. 531 00:28:18,280 --> 00:28:18,399 Speaker 8: Uh. 532 00:28:18,840 --> 00:28:21,160 Speaker 2: It was hard for me to get trust from Eddie Robinson. 533 00:28:21,680 --> 00:28:24,240 Speaker 2: He just it was hard to get that trust from it. 534 00:28:24,440 --> 00:28:27,560 Speaker 2: He saw me doing things, but they just they can't. 535 00:28:27,600 --> 00:28:30,119 Speaker 2: If they can't explain it, then they just don't even 536 00:28:30,119 --> 00:28:32,480 Speaker 2: want to think about it. Uh, he's waiting on Albert 537 00:28:32,560 --> 00:28:35,800 Speaker 2: Lewis to come behind me, who was waiting to get 538 00:28:35,840 --> 00:28:39,160 Speaker 2: to start. I wouldn't let him on the field end 539 00:28:39,240 --> 00:28:42,480 Speaker 2: up in Kansas City, and he is he balled all 540 00:28:42,520 --> 00:28:43,120 Speaker 2: of a career. 541 00:28:43,280 --> 00:28:45,600 Speaker 4: So you played behind him or helayed behind me. 542 00:28:46,920 --> 00:28:49,960 Speaker 2: He played behind me, and Rob was waiting on him 543 00:28:50,360 --> 00:28:54,800 Speaker 2: because that's Rob's recruit. I came up there based on, hey, 544 00:28:55,440 --> 00:28:57,880 Speaker 2: can you hook a brother up for a scholarship. That's 545 00:28:57,920 --> 00:29:02,000 Speaker 2: how I got a scholarship that he had a scholarship available, 546 00:29:02,600 --> 00:29:04,720 Speaker 2: and so that's why I was able to get the 547 00:29:04,800 --> 00:29:08,360 Speaker 2: scholarship I got at Granted State. My mom and I 548 00:29:08,640 --> 00:29:12,600 Speaker 2: we went up there begging to get that opportunity. So 549 00:29:12,720 --> 00:29:18,360 Speaker 2: Rob really didn't trust my, my technique. Coach Landry the 550 00:29:18,360 --> 00:29:22,840 Speaker 2: same way Rob Harley, Coach Robinson, sorry, coach Landry hardly 551 00:29:22,840 --> 00:29:28,400 Speaker 2: ever talked to me because you too, I guess we're 552 00:29:29,040 --> 00:29:33,120 Speaker 2: up the same. Care about free agency now they don't 553 00:29:33,440 --> 00:29:36,320 Speaker 2: because it's hard to get a coach to trust you 554 00:29:36,360 --> 00:29:39,040 Speaker 2: when you've got all these players that you've been drafted 555 00:29:39,080 --> 00:29:42,000 Speaker 2: ahead of you. Well, well you must be there must 556 00:29:42,040 --> 00:29:45,400 Speaker 2: be something wrong with it. That's why you're undrafted. You're 557 00:29:45,520 --> 00:29:50,600 Speaker 2: looking for deficiency. And so Tom never really understood how 558 00:29:50,640 --> 00:29:53,560 Speaker 2: I was able to make plays, just like Eddie Robinson 559 00:29:53,760 --> 00:29:56,560 Speaker 2: never understood how I was able to make plays. But 560 00:29:56,600 --> 00:30:00,320 Speaker 2: it all came from here first. Anytime you're und rafted 561 00:30:00,440 --> 00:30:02,920 Speaker 2: like that and you're able to make plays even though 562 00:30:02,920 --> 00:30:06,840 Speaker 2: you're undrafted, that lets people know this guy has something special. 563 00:30:07,120 --> 00:30:09,920 Speaker 2: And I had to show him at every week. 564 00:30:09,680 --> 00:30:13,800 Speaker 4: Every and against you guys. 565 00:30:14,480 --> 00:30:18,680 Speaker 2: And so when you see a coach like Tom Landry 566 00:30:18,880 --> 00:30:23,880 Speaker 2: and he's he doesn't even really mention my name after 567 00:30:23,920 --> 00:30:27,000 Speaker 2: a game, and I might have two interceptions and then 568 00:30:27,040 --> 00:30:29,680 Speaker 2: he'll come up with a backhanded compliments say, well, they 569 00:30:29,760 --> 00:30:32,720 Speaker 2: catch something, and he catched something. No, coach, it wasn't. 570 00:30:32,600 --> 00:30:35,000 Speaker 4: Like probably talk about more times you were maybe at 571 00:30:35,040 --> 00:30:37,920 Speaker 4: a position on the defense or something like that than 572 00:30:37,960 --> 00:30:38,920 Speaker 4: the good stuff than. 573 00:30:38,840 --> 00:30:39,440 Speaker 2: The good you know. 574 00:30:39,480 --> 00:30:41,680 Speaker 4: I remember one game we were playing. I caught about 575 00:30:41,720 --> 00:30:44,520 Speaker 4: five or six, but he nambas that one block I 576 00:30:44,600 --> 00:30:47,120 Speaker 4: missed that cost set. 577 00:30:47,200 --> 00:30:48,880 Speaker 2: To go all the way. And you know what, that's 578 00:30:48,920 --> 00:30:51,800 Speaker 2: fine too, because that's the standard that it was. 579 00:30:52,160 --> 00:30:52,480 Speaker 4: We had. 580 00:30:52,960 --> 00:30:56,960 Speaker 2: We already had that standard players that comes from our grassroots, 581 00:30:56,960 --> 00:30:58,680 Speaker 2: and it made that's accountable it is. 582 00:30:59,000 --> 00:31:01,520 Speaker 4: That's right, That's what I let me get me started. 583 00:31:02,960 --> 00:31:05,520 Speaker 4: It's a little different now. But the best receiver before 584 00:31:05,520 --> 00:31:08,720 Speaker 4: we get into what you're doing now and all that, okay, 585 00:31:08,800 --> 00:31:11,720 Speaker 4: the best receiver or receivers that you've played against, the 586 00:31:11,720 --> 00:31:14,000 Speaker 4: ones that gave you the toughest time. 587 00:31:14,160 --> 00:31:19,120 Speaker 2: And once again, no smoke. This thumb I can't remember. 588 00:31:19,120 --> 00:31:20,640 Speaker 2: I think it was this one you broke this thumb. 589 00:31:20,720 --> 00:31:22,600 Speaker 2: Remember that day we were trying to work on three 590 00:31:22,640 --> 00:31:26,160 Speaker 2: man eight man, and boy, you were having that day, 591 00:31:26,200 --> 00:31:30,080 Speaker 2: clowning us all practice. For some reason, we could not 592 00:31:30,160 --> 00:31:33,240 Speaker 2: stay inside and trail. It was just one of those 593 00:31:33,320 --> 00:31:36,560 Speaker 2: days as rookies. And I remember me and Jean Staralars 594 00:31:36,600 --> 00:31:40,240 Speaker 2: cussing each other out over you because you bloke broke 595 00:31:40,280 --> 00:31:43,160 Speaker 2: my thumb. And I'm really mad now. I didn't even 596 00:31:43,200 --> 00:31:44,920 Speaker 2: want to tape it up. I just covered you like this. 597 00:31:45,480 --> 00:31:49,160 Speaker 2: And I remember after you beat me the last time 598 00:31:49,240 --> 00:31:52,720 Speaker 2: you go, Everson, and he didn't stay just ever since 599 00:31:53,000 --> 00:31:56,800 Speaker 2: S word, S word, Everson. I just don't think you're 600 00:31:56,800 --> 00:32:00,920 Speaker 2: good enough to play this game. And I remember, oh man, 601 00:32:01,320 --> 00:32:05,880 Speaker 2: it came out. It came out, But that's what Starlings wanted. Man. 602 00:32:05,960 --> 00:32:08,800 Speaker 2: We went at it, just verbally cook and then next thing, 603 00:32:08,800 --> 00:32:11,640 Speaker 2: you know, go get him then and then that's when 604 00:32:11,640 --> 00:32:12,760 Speaker 2: we had to finish the drill. 605 00:32:12,920 --> 00:32:15,719 Speaker 4: He wanted to see how you reacted to He enjoyed 606 00:32:15,760 --> 00:32:20,280 Speaker 4: that and you answered it right, and we laugh about that. 607 00:32:22,040 --> 00:32:24,960 Speaker 2: Every You remember, Yes, I do, coach, I remember. But 608 00:32:25,080 --> 00:32:28,520 Speaker 2: now wideouts have to be Roy Green. 609 00:32:29,320 --> 00:32:29,400 Speaker 6: Uh. 610 00:32:29,600 --> 00:32:35,120 Speaker 2: That was the guy. It took me four years to 611 00:32:35,200 --> 00:32:37,760 Speaker 2: just be able to control this guy. I never did 612 00:32:37,880 --> 00:32:41,160 Speaker 2: shut him down, just control him. He was so powerful. 613 00:32:41,240 --> 00:32:45,320 Speaker 2: He was Steve Smith's senior before Steve Smith's singing. That 614 00:32:45,400 --> 00:32:49,800 Speaker 2: guy that was just strong, compact, fast, bow legged dude. 615 00:32:50,280 --> 00:32:52,320 Speaker 2: You know from a small school. He has to be 616 00:32:52,320 --> 00:32:54,400 Speaker 2: from a small school. And he was just raw. 617 00:32:54,360 --> 00:32:57,120 Speaker 4: And they were they were swinging it well yeah heart 618 00:32:57,280 --> 00:32:58,600 Speaker 4: and he was with Jim. 619 00:32:58,400 --> 00:33:03,400 Speaker 2: Mark and Lovacks. Lomax couldn't reach him because Lomax could 620 00:33:03,920 --> 00:33:07,520 Speaker 2: throw it further. That there was a problem. Now we 621 00:33:07,680 --> 00:33:11,520 Speaker 2: got it run faster. But now Roy was the man 622 00:33:12,040 --> 00:33:16,040 Speaker 2: and one guy once again giving you Pops Webster slaughter. 623 00:33:17,120 --> 00:33:20,680 Speaker 2: He ran routes just like he ran routes just like 624 00:33:20,800 --> 00:33:24,160 Speaker 2: he walked just like you. And man, this guy gave 625 00:33:24,200 --> 00:33:27,440 Speaker 2: me hell. When I went to Cleveland. He gave me 626 00:33:27,520 --> 00:33:29,200 Speaker 2: hell when I was in New York and we played 627 00:33:29,200 --> 00:33:31,440 Speaker 2: against Cleveland every once in a while, and I think 628 00:33:31,480 --> 00:33:34,360 Speaker 2: he was with Cincinnati at one point as well. He's 629 00:33:34,400 --> 00:33:37,960 Speaker 2: a guy just like yourself, just heart. He was mad 630 00:33:38,000 --> 00:33:39,760 Speaker 2: at you. If you cover him, he's mad at you. 631 00:33:39,960 --> 00:33:41,840 Speaker 2: He mad at me because I'm doing my job. Yes, 632 00:33:41,920 --> 00:33:43,800 Speaker 2: I'm mad at you and I'm coming after you. That's 633 00:33:43,840 --> 00:33:48,160 Speaker 2: how he was. And so he's that guy, that unheard 634 00:33:48,200 --> 00:33:50,040 Speaker 2: of guy. People are not going to give him the 635 00:33:50,040 --> 00:33:54,240 Speaker 2: love he deserves. But Webster Slaughter was shifting. He was tough, 636 00:33:54,920 --> 00:33:58,880 Speaker 2: and even he's a wiry guys to where like yourself, 637 00:33:58,960 --> 00:34:01,720 Speaker 2: you try to hurt him and you know, you bend 638 00:34:01,760 --> 00:34:04,240 Speaker 2: them this way, bend them that way, and they're like, yeah, 639 00:34:04,360 --> 00:34:04,840 Speaker 2: good with that. 640 00:34:04,960 --> 00:34:06,760 Speaker 4: He had a nice career. I don't know how many 641 00:34:06,760 --> 00:34:07,920 Speaker 4: catchers we had we looked at. 642 00:34:07,920 --> 00:34:11,799 Speaker 2: He's never he's never been in the in the standings 643 00:34:11,800 --> 00:34:14,880 Speaker 2: of a conversation about the best and all that I 644 00:34:14,920 --> 00:34:17,439 Speaker 2: had to go against him. Have some stats, Yes, yes 645 00:34:17,480 --> 00:34:17,799 Speaker 2: he did. 646 00:34:17,880 --> 00:34:19,480 Speaker 4: He did well. We got to come back because we 647 00:34:19,520 --> 00:34:23,000 Speaker 4: got to talk about your experiences with coach Landry and 648 00:34:23,040 --> 00:34:25,760 Speaker 4: stuff like that. I know you you know you're about 649 00:34:25,840 --> 00:34:28,960 Speaker 4: it heads a little bit, right, Uh, but we talk 650 00:34:29,000 --> 00:34:31,400 Speaker 4: about that and then we'll get into a little bit 651 00:34:31,440 --> 00:34:34,200 Speaker 4: about what you're doing now before we wrap up the show. Okay, 652 00:34:34,600 --> 00:34:37,560 Speaker 4: appreciate you taking the time to be with free agent 653 00:34:39,440 --> 00:34:42,839 Speaker 4: Route Tree today. It's all it's all about free agency. 654 00:34:42,960 --> 00:34:44,280 Speaker 4: What was your signing bonus? 655 00:34:45,760 --> 00:34:46,880 Speaker 2: Fifteen hundred bucks? 656 00:34:46,960 --> 00:34:49,600 Speaker 4: Oh you got, I got you, I got money. Mine 657 00:34:49,680 --> 00:34:53,320 Speaker 4: was one hundred and fifty dollars. 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You make me want to run a route 714 00:37:23,960 --> 00:37:24,319 Speaker 4: on you. 715 00:37:25,040 --> 00:37:26,040 Speaker 2: It's about how you look. 716 00:37:26,960 --> 00:37:30,560 Speaker 4: You look like right now I think I'll let you 717 00:37:30,680 --> 00:37:35,480 Speaker 4: slide or let me slide. But anyway you play with 718 00:37:35,600 --> 00:37:38,279 Speaker 4: You talk about your experience with Eddie Robinson. How cool 719 00:37:38,400 --> 00:37:40,680 Speaker 4: was that? You know? So you also play with another 720 00:37:40,800 --> 00:37:45,200 Speaker 4: legendary coach, Tom Land you know, what was your experiences 721 00:37:45,360 --> 00:37:48,280 Speaker 4: like with coach land y'all get along and. 722 00:37:48,360 --> 00:37:50,359 Speaker 2: We did not get along. We did not get along. 723 00:37:50,400 --> 00:37:53,000 Speaker 2: But when you look at Tom Landry and and Eddie Robinson, 724 00:37:53,040 --> 00:37:55,920 Speaker 2: there really is no difference. Yeah, those guys, they're stuck 725 00:37:55,920 --> 00:37:58,319 Speaker 2: in their ways. Uh, they have a certain way of 726 00:37:58,360 --> 00:38:00,759 Speaker 2: looking at football, and if you don't fit in that, 727 00:38:00,880 --> 00:38:03,040 Speaker 2: then you know you're gonna have an issue, you know. 728 00:38:03,280 --> 00:38:06,960 Speaker 2: And I was able to thrive under those his system 729 00:38:06,960 --> 00:38:09,040 Speaker 2: as well as Tom Landry system, in spite of the 730 00:38:09,080 --> 00:38:13,279 Speaker 2: fact that, you know, my unorthodox play and the lack 731 00:38:13,320 --> 00:38:16,080 Speaker 2: of trust that they had in me. And when I 732 00:38:16,120 --> 00:38:19,520 Speaker 2: say lack of trust, they were always proud of how 733 00:38:19,600 --> 00:38:23,319 Speaker 2: I played, but they just couldn't They didn't have the 734 00:38:23,320 --> 00:38:26,879 Speaker 2: confidence that they will continue the way it did. They 735 00:38:27,000 --> 00:38:30,239 Speaker 2: wasn't sure how much longevity I would have. And so 736 00:38:30,680 --> 00:38:33,160 Speaker 2: Landry was a guy that really just left me alone 737 00:38:33,520 --> 00:38:37,359 Speaker 2: when it came down to playing ball. And I think 738 00:38:37,440 --> 00:38:40,520 Speaker 2: that that's why I was backtracking on the trust thing, 739 00:38:41,040 --> 00:38:45,600 Speaker 2: because for him to never just bug me and let 740 00:38:45,600 --> 00:38:47,840 Speaker 2: me sit out there by myself and never really speak 741 00:38:47,880 --> 00:38:50,719 Speaker 2: of me in that manner, that means that hey, out 742 00:38:50,760 --> 00:38:52,040 Speaker 2: of sight, out of mind, that means. 743 00:38:53,000 --> 00:38:55,799 Speaker 4: Let to do your thing based on your talent. He 744 00:38:55,920 --> 00:38:58,320 Speaker 4: was seeing kind of like door set with the offense. 745 00:38:58,320 --> 00:39:00,560 Speaker 4: When he came in, he had this system are running, 746 00:39:00,920 --> 00:39:01,640 Speaker 4: but we're gonna. 747 00:39:02,000 --> 00:39:04,880 Speaker 2: Coach set now and created. 748 00:39:04,719 --> 00:39:05,319 Speaker 4: We see that. 749 00:39:05,640 --> 00:39:07,799 Speaker 2: You could see that he knew when to he knew 750 00:39:07,840 --> 00:39:10,319 Speaker 2: when to bark and went not to bark. And that's 751 00:39:10,360 --> 00:39:12,720 Speaker 2: one thing he did. He left me alone in that regard. 752 00:39:13,000 --> 00:39:15,440 Speaker 2: But that also led to the fact that we hardly 753 00:39:15,440 --> 00:39:19,400 Speaker 2: had no relationship at all. I mean our first segment, no, 754 00:39:19,520 --> 00:39:22,440 Speaker 2: let's say the first minute of our segment that exceeded 755 00:39:22,480 --> 00:39:25,760 Speaker 2: the conversations that to Legend and I had together. 756 00:39:26,320 --> 00:39:28,040 Speaker 4: That's kind of this kind of conversation. 757 00:39:28,120 --> 00:39:30,600 Speaker 2: Yes, right, and that's kind of sad uh in that 758 00:39:30,680 --> 00:39:32,640 Speaker 2: regard because you know some of them with that kind 759 00:39:32,640 --> 00:39:36,719 Speaker 2: of greatness. Uh. I thought that we had the same mindset, 760 00:39:37,360 --> 00:39:41,880 Speaker 2: but Tom was was different in every way, whether it's socially, uh, 761 00:39:41,960 --> 00:39:45,040 Speaker 2: whether it's coaching. Uh. You don't find many coaches that 762 00:39:45,080 --> 00:39:47,799 Speaker 2: coach every aspect of the game. And I don't mean 763 00:39:47,960 --> 00:39:52,480 Speaker 2: just lent the word every No, he knew, he knew specialty. 764 00:39:52,560 --> 00:39:55,360 Speaker 2: He was a punter at ut. I think in the 765 00:39:55,400 --> 00:39:58,560 Speaker 2: pros as well, he played defensive back, he played cornerback 766 00:39:58,560 --> 00:39:59,160 Speaker 2: and safety. 767 00:40:00,040 --> 00:40:01,839 Speaker 4: List for interception he had twenty four. 768 00:40:01,880 --> 00:40:05,120 Speaker 2: I think, oh that's that's ironic. Yeah, he's on this 769 00:40:05,160 --> 00:40:08,720 Speaker 2: list my numbers twenty four, right, a little bit ironic. 770 00:40:09,440 --> 00:40:11,560 Speaker 2: I think he had more than that, I really do. 771 00:40:11,640 --> 00:40:14,239 Speaker 2: I think if I'm thirty plus picks, I could be mistaken. 772 00:40:14,520 --> 00:40:16,720 Speaker 2: But that's the kind of player time was. He knew 773 00:40:16,760 --> 00:40:19,680 Speaker 2: every aspect of the game, and so you couldn't really 774 00:40:19,719 --> 00:40:23,640 Speaker 2: tell him anything new. You know, I've seen it all. 775 00:40:24,000 --> 00:40:26,640 Speaker 2: I've seen it all. So if you're something unusual comes about, 776 00:40:26,719 --> 00:40:29,759 Speaker 2: like myself, then that's going to be it's going to 777 00:40:29,800 --> 00:40:33,240 Speaker 2: be a problem. So as much as I enjoyed playing 778 00:40:33,320 --> 00:40:35,279 Speaker 2: for him, I wish I could have had a better 779 00:40:35,360 --> 00:40:36,640 Speaker 2: relationship with Yeah. 780 00:40:36,719 --> 00:40:41,200 Speaker 4: Yeah, yes, And I really didn't have in a relationship 781 00:40:41,440 --> 00:40:44,520 Speaker 4: until got out of the game. You know, I had 782 00:40:44,520 --> 00:40:47,319 Speaker 4: that car accident. He was there helping me that and 783 00:40:47,360 --> 00:40:47,920 Speaker 4: stuff like that. 784 00:40:48,040 --> 00:40:51,319 Speaker 2: We were together that night, remember, yeah, we were all together, yes, sir. 785 00:40:51,360 --> 00:40:55,960 Speaker 4: And that solidified a relationship between us because you know, 786 00:40:56,280 --> 00:41:00,040 Speaker 4: he was there my family burying and dealing with my 787 00:41:00,040 --> 00:41:02,759 Speaker 4: my brother and stuff like that. Man, But the guy 788 00:41:02,760 --> 00:41:07,080 Speaker 4: that comforted me through that whole and that's what really 789 00:41:07,120 --> 00:41:07,920 Speaker 4: brought us coaching. 790 00:41:07,960 --> 00:41:10,839 Speaker 2: Well, this didn't bring us closer together, but it let 791 00:41:10,880 --> 00:41:13,359 Speaker 2: me know what his mindset is. My daughter was like 792 00:41:13,760 --> 00:41:17,920 Speaker 2: ten weeks premature, if you remember Cherish, and so now 793 00:41:17,920 --> 00:41:21,399 Speaker 2: she's healthy. Now, yeah, she's beautiful, miss workout girls, she's 794 00:41:21,440 --> 00:41:26,279 Speaker 2: all of that. And so I remember I when when 795 00:41:26,320 --> 00:41:31,200 Speaker 2: that was in training camp and I had to leave 796 00:41:31,360 --> 00:41:35,880 Speaker 2: my wife at the hospital and come to the preseason 797 00:41:35,920 --> 00:41:38,360 Speaker 2: game because she was born August sixteenth, so we're in 798 00:41:38,400 --> 00:41:41,000 Speaker 2: preseason and you might never remember, but he praised for 799 00:41:41,080 --> 00:41:44,799 Speaker 2: my daughter that day before the game from my daughter. 800 00:41:45,480 --> 00:41:47,719 Speaker 2: It was a preseason game. Yeah, in front of the 801 00:41:47,719 --> 00:41:49,320 Speaker 2: whole team. Yeah, you just probably don't remember. 802 00:41:49,440 --> 00:41:51,160 Speaker 4: You might have been I've been throwing up in the 803 00:41:51,280 --> 00:41:55,239 Speaker 4: right every day. 804 00:41:55,320 --> 00:41:57,600 Speaker 2: That might have been your throw up time. But yeah, 805 00:41:57,920 --> 00:42:01,200 Speaker 2: that to me let me know regardless of what he is, 806 00:42:01,440 --> 00:42:06,239 Speaker 2: he's consistent, right, and so whatever like or not consistent 807 00:42:06,600 --> 00:42:09,400 Speaker 2: and how he treats his players, and you know, you 808 00:42:09,400 --> 00:42:10,680 Speaker 2: can't say anything more about that. 809 00:42:10,840 --> 00:42:13,800 Speaker 4: Yeah, well that's a good way to describe him, because 810 00:42:13,840 --> 00:42:17,520 Speaker 4: whatever he's gonna bring is gonna be that way consistent 811 00:42:17,600 --> 00:42:21,160 Speaker 4: for every every player. But anyway he was a great coach. 812 00:42:21,200 --> 00:42:23,520 Speaker 4: And I'm still trying to find out how many interceptions 813 00:42:23,520 --> 00:42:25,400 Speaker 4: because he'll tell you, hey, he had a million of them. 814 00:42:26,560 --> 00:42:28,480 Speaker 4: But he used to chose how he should show us 815 00:42:28,520 --> 00:42:30,719 Speaker 4: how to run this route. You know, you had that 816 00:42:30,800 --> 00:42:35,040 Speaker 4: little gimp and he used to run and I would like, 817 00:42:35,200 --> 00:42:40,960 Speaker 4: but he wasn't looking. I run it like Roger would say, Hey, quickness. 818 00:42:40,760 --> 00:42:44,560 Speaker 2: Let me say this. I bet he knew. I bet 819 00:42:44,600 --> 00:42:46,560 Speaker 2: he knew you. 820 00:42:47,760 --> 00:42:49,320 Speaker 4: Probably Jim Myers. 821 00:42:50,880 --> 00:42:55,320 Speaker 2: Or Jim snitched on everybody snitched on every Jim mars 822 00:42:55,360 --> 00:42:56,520 Speaker 2: are offensive line coach. 823 00:42:56,560 --> 00:43:00,400 Speaker 4: He was a former drill sergeant, marine pro sergeant and 824 00:43:00,480 --> 00:43:03,880 Speaker 4: he acted acted like but any way ever since. So 825 00:43:04,680 --> 00:43:06,719 Speaker 4: we covered a lot of that football stuff. We can 826 00:43:06,760 --> 00:43:09,279 Speaker 4: go on and on because your career has been tremendous, 827 00:43:09,760 --> 00:43:13,040 Speaker 4: but life after football. You talk about your daughter Charit 828 00:43:13,440 --> 00:43:19,040 Speaker 4: uh cherifs cherish cherish and Charil yes, yeah, So how's 829 00:43:19,080 --> 00:43:19,719 Speaker 4: that going on? 830 00:43:19,800 --> 00:43:19,920 Speaker 5: Man? 831 00:43:21,080 --> 00:43:25,600 Speaker 2: Everybody's fine? Uh after COVID Uh, you know, they had 832 00:43:25,600 --> 00:43:27,919 Speaker 2: gone through some issues. So now everyone's still at home. 833 00:43:28,360 --> 00:43:30,120 Speaker 2: So all four of us still at home. I see 834 00:43:30,160 --> 00:43:32,040 Speaker 2: them every day. I don't know if that's good or bad. 835 00:43:32,560 --> 00:43:34,440 Speaker 2: Get on my nerves sometimes you know, you want your 836 00:43:34,480 --> 00:43:37,800 Speaker 2: quality time at sixty five years old, you know, sixty 837 00:43:38,120 --> 00:43:42,680 Speaker 2: sixty five, man still going you still kept trying. I think, 838 00:43:42,760 --> 00:43:46,400 Speaker 2: my a lot going on. Well I have to because 839 00:43:46,880 --> 00:43:49,000 Speaker 2: a lot goes on, you have to keep that energy 840 00:43:49,080 --> 00:43:53,480 Speaker 2: devel up. And so at this point, uh, this is November. 841 00:43:53,560 --> 00:43:57,200 Speaker 2: I'm the ambassador for the American Diabetes Association. This is 842 00:43:57,280 --> 00:44:00,360 Speaker 2: them moth and uh my daughter showing me how to 843 00:44:00,360 --> 00:44:02,840 Speaker 2: do Instagram and all that kind of stuff. So you know, 844 00:44:02,920 --> 00:44:05,400 Speaker 2: take a look at Everson walls On on Instagram. I 845 00:44:05,440 --> 00:44:08,360 Speaker 2: have my cleats for my cars. I have that, and 846 00:44:08,400 --> 00:44:11,440 Speaker 2: the American Diabetes Association set me up with that, did 847 00:44:11,480 --> 00:44:13,880 Speaker 2: a whole opening for that and whatever you call it 848 00:44:13,920 --> 00:44:19,240 Speaker 2: as far as Instagram is concerned. Also Ethos Education Group. 849 00:44:20,320 --> 00:44:25,400 Speaker 2: We are the counseling arm for students in the Frisco 850 00:44:25,600 --> 00:44:26,440 Speaker 2: School District. 851 00:44:26,960 --> 00:44:27,080 Speaker 7: Uh. 852 00:44:27,280 --> 00:44:28,919 Speaker 2: You know, it's the biggest, one of the biggest school 853 00:44:28,960 --> 00:44:32,000 Speaker 2: districts in the country and we've gotten they like us 854 00:44:32,040 --> 00:44:35,640 Speaker 2: so much. They re up us every year because of 855 00:44:35,680 --> 00:44:38,719 Speaker 2: the work that we do with their kids. Uh. You know, 856 00:44:38,760 --> 00:44:41,320 Speaker 2: we make sure that the student athletes that are coming 857 00:44:41,360 --> 00:44:45,640 Speaker 2: out right now in uh in Frisco School District understand 858 00:44:45,800 --> 00:44:49,800 Speaker 2: the n I L dangers and pitfalls in that regard. 859 00:44:50,239 --> 00:44:52,480 Speaker 2: Make sure that when they come out of college that 860 00:44:52,480 --> 00:44:55,319 Speaker 2: they're not already in debt because you know, they get 861 00:44:55,320 --> 00:44:58,160 Speaker 2: the money and then the parents or the loved ones 862 00:44:58,239 --> 00:45:00,759 Speaker 2: or whatever been on top of to give them all 863 00:45:00,760 --> 00:45:04,320 Speaker 2: that money and they don't really manage their money well. 864 00:45:04,680 --> 00:45:08,040 Speaker 2: And who would at twenty twenty one years old. So, uh, 865 00:45:08,239 --> 00:45:13,680 Speaker 2: that's part of our creed. Also, we we helped with 866 00:45:14,320 --> 00:45:18,080 Speaker 2: mental health because during COVID there was a lot of 867 00:45:18,080 --> 00:45:22,360 Speaker 2: teen suicide and we had panels every week in that regard, 868 00:45:23,040 --> 00:45:25,919 Speaker 2: of course it was virtual. Uh, we're doing COVID and 869 00:45:25,960 --> 00:45:29,000 Speaker 2: we you know, helped a lot of people. We brought 870 00:45:29,040 --> 00:45:32,920 Speaker 2: a lot of individuals on who had had issues with 871 00:45:33,040 --> 00:45:37,000 Speaker 2: mental health during COVID. So we're doing the work. I'm 872 00:45:37,000 --> 00:45:41,200 Speaker 2: putting in the work, and that's something I'm very proud of. Otherwise, Man, 873 00:45:41,280 --> 00:45:45,160 Speaker 2: I'm here podcasts on mix shots, you know, right here 874 00:45:45,160 --> 00:45:50,160 Speaker 2: in this room, me Mickey Bill and now we got HECMA, 875 00:45:50,600 --> 00:45:54,440 Speaker 2: Nicky Spa. He's still around. You might not see him, 876 00:45:55,400 --> 00:45:58,920 Speaker 2: you might, you might look over. But now that's what 877 00:45:58,960 --> 00:46:01,480 Speaker 2: I'm doing now. And man, my life is full. My 878 00:46:01,560 --> 00:46:04,600 Speaker 2: life is well, you look great, man. I'm blessed man. 879 00:46:05,160 --> 00:46:06,319 Speaker 4: We're both blessed man. 880 00:46:06,480 --> 00:46:09,279 Speaker 2: And I don't ever you know, I guess because it's 881 00:46:09,320 --> 00:46:11,200 Speaker 2: part of me. But I never mentioned a lot of 882 00:46:11,239 --> 00:46:14,239 Speaker 2: religious stuff, man, But God has blessed both of us 883 00:46:14,280 --> 00:46:17,560 Speaker 2: so much. I tell people all the time. I talk 884 00:46:17,600 --> 00:46:20,760 Speaker 2: to my wife about it. I said, could you imagine 885 00:46:20,760 --> 00:46:24,480 Speaker 2: the crazy people that we've met through our lives just 886 00:46:24,520 --> 00:46:29,520 Speaker 2: from being just from being around cowboys and the NFL, 887 00:46:29,760 --> 00:46:31,920 Speaker 2: and all the stories that we could tell in the 888 00:46:32,000 --> 00:46:35,720 Speaker 2: friendships goodness that we've gone throughout this whole throughout our lives. 889 00:46:35,960 --> 00:46:38,040 Speaker 4: Not many people we all sat around. We could do 890 00:46:38,120 --> 00:46:42,400 Speaker 4: a book, a movie and all that. Are you physically okay? 891 00:46:42,560 --> 00:46:45,759 Speaker 4: I'm physically I don't ever remember you having any surgeries 892 00:46:45,840 --> 00:46:46,280 Speaker 4: or anything. 893 00:46:46,320 --> 00:46:52,719 Speaker 2: No surgeries. I had a couple of cracked ribs that 894 00:46:52,800 --> 00:46:55,640 Speaker 2: allowed me to miss my only two games in my 895 00:46:55,800 --> 00:46:59,600 Speaker 2: career when I was in New York. When I donated 896 00:46:59,640 --> 00:47:03,080 Speaker 2: my kid to Ron Springs and they do the scan, 897 00:47:03,760 --> 00:47:08,760 Speaker 2: they could still see where my spleen was bruised from 898 00:47:08,800 --> 00:47:13,120 Speaker 2: that hit that cracked my two ribs, And so I'm like, man, 899 00:47:13,160 --> 00:47:16,279 Speaker 2: that's twenty years later. They said, yeah, we can still 900 00:47:16,280 --> 00:47:19,640 Speaker 2: see it. Yeah, and so yeah that we were. Our 901 00:47:19,760 --> 00:47:21,720 Speaker 2: scars are part of us. 902 00:47:21,960 --> 00:47:22,560 Speaker 4: Part of us. 903 00:47:22,560 --> 00:47:22,960 Speaker 2: That's right. 904 00:47:23,040 --> 00:47:25,680 Speaker 4: All the years I played football from Pop Warner through 905 00:47:25,680 --> 00:47:28,680 Speaker 4: eleven years in the NFL one scope surgery. 906 00:47:28,320 --> 00:47:31,920 Speaker 2: Wow on one need to clean clean out glass man. 907 00:47:32,200 --> 00:47:34,799 Speaker 4: Less and luck right, and that's all. It is no 908 00:47:34,840 --> 00:47:36,719 Speaker 4: doubt ever since we got so much we could we 909 00:47:36,760 --> 00:47:39,520 Speaker 4: can get to you know, we got to bring you back. Okay, 910 00:47:39,960 --> 00:47:43,600 Speaker 4: we haven't talking about your experiences with the giants and 911 00:47:43,680 --> 00:47:49,279 Speaker 4: that kind of stuff. 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