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Speaker 1: It is a football Friday weekend edition. Can the Cardinals

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Speaker 1: win back to back games?

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Speaker 1: Welcome Bird Gang on today's show. Zach Gershman joins me,

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Speaker 1: and that's the question, isn't it. Can the Cardinals stack wins?

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Speaker 1: They haven't since twenty twenty one, So what's it going

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Speaker 1: to take to get the job done? Let us injury

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Speaker 1: News Plus we head into enemy territory and speak with

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Speaker 1: Travis Wingfield from Miami Dolphins dot Com at Cardinals Cover two,

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Speaker 1: Episode eight eleven, and it starts now.

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Speaker 3: Welcome to Cardinals Cover two.

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Speaker 4: Boona Baker? What Heart?

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Speaker 1: What rent? This guy's unbelievable.

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Speaker 4: He's at the ten half of five. He's it again,

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Speaker 4: so more hurry magic.

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Speaker 5: Whoa, here's Craig Grioler. So I'm going to try to

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Speaker 5: remain positive. It is a football Friday. The temperatures have dropped.

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Speaker 1: It is nice here in Arizona, and I want to

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Speaker 1: feel like Jonathan Gannon feels when he walks into every

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Speaker 1: single press conference when he addresses reporters, he is all

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Speaker 1: about that energy and upbeats. Yet when he sat down

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Speaker 1: he mentioned that Sean Murphy Bunting Roy Lopez will not

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Speaker 1: play this week. That's a starting corner and a starting

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Speaker 4: It's like one of those things when you're smiling even

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Speaker 4: though you're crying. Are you happy? Are you sad? It's

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Speaker 4: confusing the emotions, but yeah, look, it's it's a tough

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Speaker 4: vote for this Cardinals defense when you don't have two

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Speaker 4: key starters in guys like Roy Lopez and Shawn Murphy Bunting.

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Speaker 4: But it's that next man up mentality that we've heard

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Speaker 4: since last year because, especially on the defensive side of

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Speaker 1: It's a short week and now shorthanded Cardinals team going

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Speaker 1: to play the Miami Dolphins on Sunday ten am is

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Speaker 1: the kickoff five thirty. Pre game coverage begins on the

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Speaker 1: Arizona Cardinals Radio Network. We've got Travis Wingfield from Miami

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Speaker 1: Dolphins dot Com coming up here in a bit to

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Speaker 1: further discuss the game. But as far as the injuries,

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Speaker 1: are concerned. Without Sean Murphy bunting again that neck issue

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Speaker 1: that has forced him out of games each of the

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Speaker 1: past two weeks. He's unavailable, So now what do you do?

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Speaker 1: There are a number of different options for the Cardinals.

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Speaker 1: You can simply go with Max Melton and Starling Thomas,

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Speaker 1: keep Trel Clark as a backup he was inactive last week.

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Speaker 1: Or you can shuffle things a little bit more. Move

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Speaker 1: Tua Tongue of Blowa is back.

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Speaker 4: And that's the thing, when with Tua back, you don't

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Speaker 1: It's coming.

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Speaker 4: It's just the logistics behind everything right now. But think

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Speaker 4: Well JG was talking about how this is his first

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Speaker 4: So there's a lot of you know, moving elements on

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Speaker 1: Next man up mentality. At some point there's just not

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Speaker 4: It's a lot of these guys remained the same although

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Speaker 4: They keep calling themselves dogs. It's truly how they play

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Speaker 4: Naikwon's done. He's got to do it again.

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Speaker 1: It's gonna be a tough task ahead for this Cardinals

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Speaker 1: team again, a two day trip team leaves on Friday

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Speaker 4: Everybody handles injuries very differently. So the Cardinals, knowing the

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Speaker 4: they're not going to rush him. They're going to try

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Speaker 4: they're not going to rush him back from any injury

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Speaker 4: Of course they can any given Sunday. And I do

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Speaker 1: Well, well, we will see what happens on Sunday. It

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you nailed it with the word excitement, because, as

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Speaker 1: It has been impressive watching the Dolphins run game one

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Speaker 2: I think it'll be back to what we saw in

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Speaker 2: I do think they'll get back to making him an emphasis.

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Speaker 2: and what coverage they're in.

437
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Speaker 4: So drives full transparency here. I'm a Penn State guy,

438
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Speaker 4: so when I asked this question, I mean it from

439
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Speaker 4: the bottom of my heart. How's Chop doing? How's he

440
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Speaker 4: been integrating himself into the Miami Dolphin system as a

441
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Speaker 4: first round pick.

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Speaker 2: Well, my radio co host is O J McDuffie, so

443
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Speaker 2: he'll be happy to hear that there's another fellow we

444
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Speaker 2: are here there we go to the Dolphins content world.

445
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Speaker 2: He's the biggest Penn State fan I've ever met in

446
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Speaker 2: my life. His loves his alma mater. As far as

447
00:20:11,440 --> 00:20:13,720
Speaker 2: Chop goes, yeah, Jus is excited about Chop as well.

448
00:20:13,760 --> 00:20:16,119
Speaker 2: But the production hasn't really been there so far. I

449
00:20:16,200 --> 00:20:18,960
Speaker 2: think that kind of what's happening through his first six

450
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Speaker 2: games was I mentioned the attrition at the edge position

451
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Speaker 2: they've had so far with you know, Phillips going down

452
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Speaker 2: and you know Shaq Bart's retirement before the season. I

453
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Speaker 2: think when they when they brought him in, this thought

454
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Speaker 2: was kind of, you know, kind of that third maybe

455
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Speaker 2: even fourth rusher to begin the year where he could

456
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Speaker 2: be kind of part of those NASCAR packages where you

457
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Speaker 2: bring up multiple edges and move him around. And you

458
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Speaker 2: saw him at Penn State so many times sign up

459
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Speaker 2: over the center and that kind of nose back in

460
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Speaker 2: the position and he would just he was too fast

461
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Speaker 2: off the football for guys to deal with. I thought

462
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Speaker 2: we'd see more of that, but he's really been more

463
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Speaker 2: traditional edge role and he's got a couple of things

464
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Speaker 2: to work and I think that he's obviously got great burst,

465
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Speaker 2: but against the run, he's he's kind of letting guys

466
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Speaker 2: into his chest here a little bit too frequently at

467
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Speaker 2: I think he's kind of trying to work on that

468
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Speaker 2: secondary rush move to be able to You know, I

469
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Speaker 2: won with speed, but now these guys are fastened to

470
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Speaker 2: get back there to kind of to catch up to me.

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Speaker 2: How can I counter that move and get that secondary

472
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Speaker 2: move to the quarterback. I don't think he's there yet,

473
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Speaker 2: but I think that he's working on and he'll look

474
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Speaker 2: at them before the years over.

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Speaker 1: Well, as long as we're going to play favorites here,

476
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Speaker 1: how about I ask about a favorite among Cardinal fans,

477
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Speaker 1: and that is Kalais Campbell seventeenth season and now back

478
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Speaker 1: home in the state of Florida. But his production and

479
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Speaker 1: what you've seen from him, considering that it doesn't seem

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Speaker 1: like he's slowing down.

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Speaker 2: A lot, he's unbelievable. Well, my fair, guys i've ever

482
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Speaker 2: met in terms of just talking football with you know,

483
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Speaker 2: they'll give you. They'll give you as much time as

484
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Speaker 2: you need if you have a question for him in

485
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Speaker 2: the hallway around the building about a certain pass rush

486
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Speaker 2: move orre a technique that he plays. And I think

487
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Speaker 2: that's probably across the locker room as well in terms

488
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Speaker 2: of how he impacts guys around him. You talk about

489
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Speaker 2: the impact from kalais him and Zach Steeler. If the

490
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Speaker 2: Dolphins were without one of Campbell or Stealer, they would be,

491
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Speaker 2: in my opinion, in a world of trouble because those

492
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Speaker 2: guys again the third time I mentioned the Dolphins loss

493
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Speaker 2: of off the edge haven't been as impactful because both

494
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Speaker 2: Steeler and Campbell can go play the five technique and

495
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Speaker 2: rush off the edge and be a defensive end and

496
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Speaker 2: then they put their depth defensive tackle in their place

497
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Speaker 2: in those positions, and Campbell's like he's beaten guys of

498
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Speaker 2: speed off the edge. He's condensing inside and winning with

499
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Speaker 2: quickness in those short areas, and he beats you with

500
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Speaker 2: his strength so frequently, and he just is so smart

501
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Speaker 2: in the way he kind of anticipates in what offenses

502
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Speaker 2: are going to do against him. That I can't say

503
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Speaker 2: enough about how special of a player he is, but

504
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Speaker 2: also just the person and you feel that in the

505
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Speaker 2: locker room every single day.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, he seems to be an awesome guy, a big

507
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Speaker 4: advocate for a lot of different things, and it's great

508
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Speaker 4: to see that. You know, even this far a long

509
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Speaker 4: in his career, he still seems to be playing at

510
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Speaker 4: a really high level. Going in the Cardinal universe. The

511
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Speaker 4: topics surrounding Kyler Murray and his connection with Marvin Harrison

512
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Speaker 4: Junior something that's being discussed a lot. How are the

513
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Speaker 4: Miami Dolphins approaching going against a guy like Marvin Harrison

514
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Speaker 4: Junior who is this highly talented prospect coming out of

515
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Speaker 4: college and hasn't really seemed to find his footing similar

516
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Speaker 4: to Chop in the NFL yet, what's the approach in

517
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Speaker 4: that regard.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, I was trying to kind of figure

519
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Speaker 2: that out myself, and I was going through my game

520
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Speaker 2: preview podcasts, and I think they're gonna get a pretty

521
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Speaker 2: good continuation of what they've been doing in terms of

522
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Speaker 2: mixing things up with you know, Ramsey will shadow guys

523
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Speaker 2: for like a series or two, and then he'll move

524
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Speaker 2: and do something different and go follow a tight end

525
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Speaker 2: the round. And I was thinking about that when you

526
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Speaker 2: have Trey McBride, if he'll he'll kind of you know,

527
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Speaker 2: shadow him at some points in the game. And I

528
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Speaker 2: think that correctly if I'm wrong here, guys, but it

529
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Speaker 2: kind of seems like for Marvin, if he's not getting

530
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Speaker 2: the ball early, it kind of continues to go that

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Speaker 2: way throughout the rest of the game. And I was thinking,

532
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Speaker 2: what better way to take Marvin Harrison out of the

533
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Speaker 2: game than to put Ramsey on him right away and

534
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Speaker 2: get a couple of reps where he's not getting open,

535
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Speaker 2: and then maybe you continue that, you know the Cardinals,

536
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Speaker 2: and to get in the football for the rest of

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Speaker 2: the game. So I'm thinking maybe start with Ramsey and

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Speaker 2: then shift from there once he kind of gets you

539
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Speaker 2: raced out of your early game plan, trying to maybe

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Speaker 2: remove him from the Cargos passing game all together.

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Speaker 1: It is going to be fascinating to see how these

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Speaker 1: two sides kind of figure out what to do as

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Speaker 1: far as get Marvin involved in the Dolphins try to

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Speaker 1: take that away because it has been, if not the

545
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Speaker 1: talking point, one of the talking points heading into this

546
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Speaker 1: game is getting Marvin Harrison Junior more involved in this offense.

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Speaker 1: Gonna be fascinating to watch coming up on Sunday at

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Speaker 1: ten am. Travis can't thank you enough for all the

549
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Speaker 1: information and again, best of luck after Sunday. The rest

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Speaker 1: of the season.

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Speaker 2: Same goes for you, guys, appreciate your time today.

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Speaker 1: Thanks guys, appreciate Travis giving us some of his time

553
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Speaker 1: and interesting to hear him talk about Jalen Ramsey, who,

554
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Speaker 1: by the way, turned thirty on Thursday, his ninth year

555
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Speaker 1: in the league and not showing signs of slowing down

556
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Speaker 1: at all. But where does Ramsey line up? Who does

557
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Speaker 1: Ramsey line up against? Is it Marvin Harrison Junior? Is

558
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Speaker 1: it Trey McBride, is it a combination of both. Does

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Speaker 1: he figure out what the best matchup is for that

560
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Speaker 1: particular series, that particular play, because he is someone that

561
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Speaker 1: ken rotates and still be an all pro at wherever

562
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Speaker 1: he is lining up at.

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Speaker 4: Which is exactly why Marvin Harrison Junior gave him his

564
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Speaker 4: flowers and said that that's a potential future Hall of

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Speaker 4: Famer in Jalen Ramsey. So he's got the attention of

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Speaker 4: this Cardinals offense. There's no doubt about that. I think

567
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Speaker 4: what Travis was talking about just looking at how Jalen

568
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Speaker 4: Ramsey has been able to line up all over the

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Speaker 4: defense against different players, whether it's the tight ends or

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Speaker 4: the outside wide receivers, whoever it is. I think whoever

571
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Speaker 4: Jalen Ramsey lines up against is going to be the

572
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Speaker 4: player that has the hot hand there, you have no

573
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Speaker 4: problem switching him over to whatever side it's going to

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Speaker 4: be on. So if Trade McBride starts having a really

575
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Speaker 4: strong first quarter, second quarter, don't be surprised, as you

576
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Speaker 4: Jalen Ramsey moved to line up across from him. I

577
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Speaker 4: think the interesting component here is how often the Cardinals

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Speaker 4: use twelve and thirteen personnel. That's going to add a

579
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Speaker 4: wrinkle into that because no team uses twelve and thirteen

580
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Speaker 4: personnel quite like the Cardinals do with their innovative or

581
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Speaker 4: for lack of a better term, offense. So it's gonna

582
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Speaker 4: be interesting to see because you know what Jayalen Ramsey

583
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Speaker 4: brings to the table, but what about all the other guys,

584
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Speaker 4: because you can't just leave a guy like Marvin Harrison

585
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Speaker 4: Junior open.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: I know it hasn't fully clicked with Marvin, but he

588
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Speaker 4: still is Marvin Harrison Junior. You know what he's capable

589
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Speaker 4: of doing.

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Speaker 1: And something else to pay attention to when it comes

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Speaker 1: to Jalen Ramsey is not only is it coverage, but

592
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Speaker 1: getting to the backfield. He recorded four pressures on five

593
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Speaker 1: pass rushes both career high marks according to Next Gen Stats. So, yeah,

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Speaker 1: Jalen Ramsey is a pro bowler. He's an All Pro,

595
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Speaker 1: future Hall of Famer, perhaps in the secondary, but someone

596
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Speaker 1: who's not afraid, much like we see out of Buddha Baker,

597
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Speaker 1: come up to the line of scrimmage and get into

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Speaker 1: the backfield.

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Speaker 4: He hasn't slowed down. Even you said this is a

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Speaker 4: ninth season, correct, I mean, it's it's impressive to see

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Speaker 4: how he's still playing the game at such a high level.

602
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Speaker 4: And yeah, he reminds me a lot of Buddha Baker

603
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Speaker 4: from just the ability to just blitz from the secondary

604
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Speaker 4: and to force a quarterback out of the pocket. But

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Speaker 4: if there's any quarterback that does pretty solid job out

606
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Speaker 4: of the pocket, it is Kyler Murray. So that's something

607
00:27:10,680 --> 00:27:12,399
Speaker 4: that the Miami defense is going to have to be

608
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Speaker 4: mindful of because they they did just see Kyler Murray

609
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Speaker 4: break free for a forty four yard scramble. They saw

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Speaker 4: him having a really nice target completion with Train McBride

611
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Speaker 4: just by getting out of the pocket and finding him

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Speaker 4: along the sidelines, which with an impressive grab by Train McBride.

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Speaker 4: But Kyler Murray is a very different quarterback and something

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Speaker 4: that Travis mentioned, how mindful they have to be about

615
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Speaker 4: Kyler's mobility because they know that he could hurt him

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Speaker 4: that way.

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Speaker 1: Two rushing touchdowns for Kyler Murray this season forty four

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Speaker 1: yards and fifty yards. But again, as you brought him up, Marvin,

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Speaker 1: and you wrote about it on Easycardinals dot Com, because

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Speaker 1: it is something that we've been talking about, we've been

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Speaker 1: writing about. It's been heavily discussed dissected as far as

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Speaker 1: this passing game and the connection between quarterback and wide receiver.

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Speaker 1: Is this the week? Is this the week that we

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Speaker 1: see more Arvin Harrison Junior really impact a ballgame statistically,

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Speaker 1: Not the fact that he's attracting coverage, but even when

626
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Speaker 1: he has been attracting coverage, the other guys, whether it's

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Speaker 1: a wide receiver, a tight end, they haven't taken advantage

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Speaker 1: of that coverage or that defense focusing primarily on number eighteen.

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Speaker 4: So what does it look like statistically to see a clicking.

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Speaker 1: Impact plays chunk receptions. It doesn't need to be seven

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Speaker 1: catches or eight catches or nine catches. It just needs

632
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Speaker 1: to be impact catches, whether that's third down or twenty

633
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Speaker 1: five yard or the deep passing game, the downfield passing game,

634
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Speaker 1: which we haven't seen. We have seen him score, but

635
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Speaker 1: I don't think we've seen enough of the impact that

636
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Speaker 1: you would expect out of number one wide receiver.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, there needs to be a lot more consistency. You

638
00:28:47,080 --> 00:28:51,000
Speaker 4: can't just have a solid two three receptions in the

639
00:28:51,000 --> 00:28:52,880
Speaker 4: first quarter and you start to say, all right, it's

640
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Speaker 4: going to be clicking, and then you don't see him

641
00:28:54,320 --> 00:28:56,720
Speaker 4: till the fourth. That can't happen. You have to be

642
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Speaker 4: able to continue getting him the ball throughout the game.

643
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Speaker 4: But going back to it, like if you saw a

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Speaker 4: stat line at the end of the game, what would

645
00:29:05,600 --> 00:29:07,560
Speaker 4: that look like in your eyes? For it to be like,

646
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Speaker 4: all right, that was a solid performance.

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Speaker 1: I could easily go with a handful of half dozen catches,

648
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Speaker 1: two touchdowns and even have like maybe fifty or fifty

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Speaker 1: five yards. I mean the yardage not that big of

650
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Speaker 1: a deal. It's when are you making those catches? Because

651
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Speaker 1: even in San Francisco, what he had two catches, but

652
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Speaker 1: one of them was on that fourth down and that

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Speaker 1: was a big play in that ball game. We need

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Speaker 1: to see more big plays out of Marvin Harrison Junior.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you need to be able to see on third

656
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Speaker 4: and third and long. You have to be able to

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Speaker 4: see the two connect with one another and make a

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Speaker 4: big time play out of it. I think it's it's interesting.

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Speaker 4: One of the things I wrote about in Azycardinals dot

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Speaker 4: Com about this article with Marvin he it's the fact

661
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Speaker 4: that the leading receiver for the past two weeks has

662
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Speaker 4: not been a wide receiver. It's been either Trade McBride.

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Speaker 4: I'm pretty sure it's been Trad mc bride the last

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Speaker 4: two games, if I'm not mistaken. But you have to

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Speaker 4: have that. You have to have your wide receivers start

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Speaker 4: to come to play a little bit. And I know

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Speaker 4: Michael Wilson. It's one of the things I included in

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Speaker 4: the article was Michael Wilson talking about Marvin Harrison Junior said,

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Speaker 4: Marvin's great from Monday through Saturday, and he's going to

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Speaker 4: be great on Sunday. Well, he needs to be great

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Speaker 4: on Sunday. Throughout the week, It's great to see Marvin

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Speaker 4: making an impact and making his teammates better and bringing

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Speaker 4: the best out of them. That's fantastic and I believe

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Speaker 4: that vice versaly. Michael Wilson's doing the same for Marvin

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Speaker 4: Harrison Junior. I believe that Greg Dorch is doing the

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Speaker 4: same for Marvin Harrison Junior's a Jones. All of it

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Speaker 4: goes hand in hand with one another. I mean, he

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Speaker 4: talked about James Connor and his ability and how that happened,

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Speaker 4: how that helps his game. But you need to start

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Speaker 4: being able to see it on Sunday, and I think

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Speaker 4: all of us could say. Although Johnaginon kind of poop

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Speaker 4: poo doo. When I asked if this is what Marvin,

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Speaker 4: if this is what he envisioned out of Marvin Harrison Junior,

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Speaker 4: he said, yeah, it is. And I don't necessarily expect

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Speaker 4: the head coach of the NFL football team to say, no,

686
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Speaker 4: this isn't what I expected from Marvin. But Marvin said

687
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Speaker 4: it's not what he expected seven games into his career.

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Speaker 4: And when we asked him, well, what did you expect,

689
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Speaker 4: he couldn't really put words together. And I think because

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Speaker 4: when you come in with that high expectations, it's not

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Speaker 4: that he's having a bad season. He's just not having

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Speaker 4: the season that we all expected going into this. So

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Speaker 4: this could be the week it turns around. The Dolphins

694
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Speaker 4: secondary is a little bit banged up. The defensive line

695
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Speaker 4: is a little bit banged up. And when you have

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Speaker 4: that happening, the running game opens up the passing game

697
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Speaker 4: and vice versa. So this could be the time for

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Speaker 4: it to happen. And once again, Craig, we talk all

699
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Speaker 4: the time and after that Week one game about oh

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Speaker 4: my god, the connection between Marvin and Kyler, it's not there.

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Speaker 4: What happened Week two? They could something worked in that

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Speaker 4: first quarter. It feels like to have a very similar

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Speaker 4: conversation after Monday night.

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Speaker 1: It's easy to point to Marvin, but for me, I

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Speaker 1: kind of go big picture and just look at the

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Speaker 1: passing game overall. It just has not been there. It's

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Speaker 1: bottom third in the league that haven't had a lot

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Speaker 1: of those explosive plays. Only fifteen pass plays of twenty

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Speaker 1: or more yards. That's tied for the seventh fewest in

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Speaker 1: the league. You got to have some balance with that

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Speaker 1: run game, because the run game is top ten, but

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Speaker 1: you have a pass game that's just not clicking yet,

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Speaker 1: and that makes it difficult on scoring drives or possessions

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Speaker 1: because now all of a sudden, without those chunk throws,

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Speaker 1: you've got to go eight, nine, ten to eleven plus plays.

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Speaker 1: That allows more chances for mistakes, whether a fumble or

717
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Speaker 1: you're behind the sticks, a penalty, or you lose the football.

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Speaker 1: You need more four or five and six possession plays

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Speaker 1: as far as getting scores, whether that's a touchdown preferably

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Speaker 1: or a field goal. But the passing game overall needs

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Speaker 1: to be better. But again, as we talked about it

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Speaker 1: with Travis, I don't know if this is TWAK because

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Speaker 1: the Dolphins passing defense is number one in the league,

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Speaker 1: and they are number one on third down.

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Speaker 4: It's very fair to say that and the third down

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Speaker 4: component is probably the most underrated component going into this

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Speaker 4: because of how good they are on third down. I

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Speaker 4: just I would hope that they've worked on this. I

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Speaker 4: would hope you know what you're gonna get out the

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Speaker 4: running game. I'm not saying don't work on the running

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Speaker 4: game throughout the week that that's ludicrous, because you know

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Speaker 4: that you could take advantage of their banged up defensive

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Speaker 4: line with defensive tackle Zac Seeler out for the game

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Speaker 4: with an eye injury according to head coach Mike McDaniels

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Speaker 4: over there in Miami, So you know what you're gonna

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Speaker 4: be able to do with the running game. You have

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Speaker 4: to try to find a ways, and I know we

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Speaker 4: talk about these chunk plays. I was watching Kurt Warner's

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Speaker 4: breakdown of the offense from that Week one game, I

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Speaker 4: mean from that Monday night game against the Los Angeles Chargers,

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Speaker 4: and I see exactly what he's saying. Being able to

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Speaker 4: have a route instead of it being seven yards, go

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Speaker 4: eight nine yards that spreads out the offense a lot

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Speaker 4: more in a way that many players won't where a

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Speaker 4: lot of players will see that, the average eye, though

746
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Speaker 4: from the fan, might not pick up on. So if

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Speaker 4: you're able to get Marvin going on a seven to

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Speaker 4: eight yard slant route, that opens up the offense a

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Speaker 4: lot more than as opposed to just go deep. Because

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Speaker 4: I'm pretty sure it was a quarter percentage wise of

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Speaker 4: Marvin's routes have been just go routes. You have to

752
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Speaker 4: be able to diversify his route tree a little bit.

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Speaker 1: So we'll see what happens on Sunday again. Cardinals at

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Speaker 1: the Dolphins ten am. That means, Zach, are you listening?

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Speaker 1: Are you paying attention? Pregame coverage begins at five thirty am.

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Speaker 1: I will be up for kickoff kickoffs at ten. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you're gonna miss all the fun between five thirty and ten.

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Speaker 4: No, I'm gonna be awake at five thirty in the morning.

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Speaker 1: Okay, there you go.

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Speaker 4: Better reading on to the radio.

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Speaker 1: Better answer on. There's a Cardinals radio network.

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Speaker 4: I will be listening like a kid on Christmas. You

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Speaker 4: might accept I'm Jewish.

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Speaker 1: You might learn something by listening to the Cardinals Early Bird,

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Speaker 1: the NFL kickoff show, in the pregame huddle.

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Speaker 4: I get to be around you guys every single day,

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Speaker 4: and I absolutely love it.

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Speaker 1: That's like I need a break, Let me get my round.

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Speaker 4: No, no, no no. If I ever needed a then that

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00:35:00,600 --> 00:35:03,160
Speaker 4: means that this is called work. And this isn't called work.

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Speaker 4: This is called enjoyment, pleasure, love.

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Speaker 1: Happy, way to dig yourself out of the hole that

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Speaker 1: you created for yourself.

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Speaker 4: I just know that this entire section is going to

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Speaker 4: be clipped and used for years to come.

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Speaker 1: We gates Cardinals in Miami South Beach. They take on

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Speaker 1: the Dolphins at ten am. Five thirty AM pregame coverage

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Speaker 1: begins on the Arizona Cardinals Radio network. Can the Cardinals

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Speaker 1: not just only get to five hundred, but get those

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Speaker 1: back to back wins and maybe, just maybe, if they

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Speaker 1: get some help along the way be tied for first

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Speaker 1: place on Monday morning going into week nine. How about that.

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Speaker 4: I feel like people are.

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Speaker 1: Breught this up earlier in this season and it didn't happen.

785
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Speaker 1: But it didn't the opportunity is here here again.

786
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Speaker 4: Look it's only two weeks later, and the conversation's right

787
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Speaker 4: back at it, and it shows how it is any

788
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Speaker 4: given Sunday. This NFC West is not the typical NFC

789
00:35:53,840 --> 00:35:56,440
Speaker 4: West we've seen where the at this point in the season,

790
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Speaker 4: the San Francisco forty nine ers are undefeated. It's not

791
00:35:59,640 --> 00:36:02,440
Speaker 4: like that this year. The Cardinals are very much in contention.

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Speaker 4: And Marvin, although he said it's now what he envisioned,

793
00:36:05,960 --> 00:36:08,000
Speaker 4: he right. He brought it right back to the team

794
00:36:08,040 --> 00:36:10,680
Speaker 4: and said, we're three and four and we still have

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Speaker 4: our eyes on the division. So he's glad about that,

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Speaker 4: and I'm glad about that too, because if you get

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Speaker 4: to start playing meaningful games as the season rolls along,

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Speaker 4: it's exciting times. Think about it. This time last year

799
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Speaker 4: the Cardinals were one and six. Sounds about right. It's

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00:36:25,200 --> 00:36:26,719
Speaker 4: very different than where we're at right now.

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Speaker 1: Win the division and you give your yourself a chance

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00:36:32,480 --> 00:36:35,319
Speaker 1: in the playoffs. Oh, and that's all that matters right

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00:36:35,360 --> 00:36:37,800
Speaker 1: now as far as this NFC West. To your point,

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Speaker 1: it's not what people anticipated it being. Right now, it

805
00:36:41,960 --> 00:36:45,120
Speaker 1: is wide open. The Cardinals certainly there with that two

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00:36:45,160 --> 00:36:47,959
Speaker 1: and zero record within the division, do they walk through

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00:36:47,960 --> 00:36:51,480
Speaker 1: that door that has been cracked open for them? Beating

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00:36:51,480 --> 00:36:54,480
Speaker 1: the Dolphins in Miami would go a long way towards

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00:36:54,560 --> 00:36:58,640
Speaker 1: them moving completely into that door and playing meaningful football

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Speaker 1: in December and January.

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Speaker 4: If we see to bring exactly bring it right back

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Speaker 4: to how we started this, if we see how John

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00:37:04,800 --> 00:37:06,880
Speaker 4: again and walks into the media room, he doesn't just

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00:37:06,960 --> 00:37:09,640
Speaker 4: walk through an empty through an open door. He flings

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Speaker 4: the wide open and goes through it and honestly would

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00:37:12,440 --> 00:37:14,480
Speaker 4: try to kick it down if you possibly could. So

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00:37:14,680 --> 00:37:16,160
Speaker 4: that's exactly what the Cardinals are going to need to

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00:37:16,200 --> 00:37:19,280
Speaker 4: do in the division. And when they land in Miami

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Speaker 4: and they enjoy a little bit more son as if

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00:37:21,800 --> 00:37:24,440
Speaker 4: they don't have enough sun out here, hopefully they do

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Speaker 4: that at hard Rock Stadium. They just kick the door

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Speaker 4: right through and they fly back to the valley with

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Speaker 4: the w Cardinals have one two of their last three.

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Speaker 1: Can they make get three of their last four and

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Speaker 1: more importantly two in a row and make that record

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Speaker 1: four and four on the season. Cardinals and Dolphins. That

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Speaker 1: is the matchup here in Week eight. And on that note,

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Speaker 1: we'll put a lit on this edition of Cardinals Cover two,

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Speaker 1: presented by a Hyundai, proud partner of the Arizona Cardinals.

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Speaker 1: As always, special thanks to our executive producer Jim Mama Hundre,

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Speaker 1: our associate producer Coddy Fincher for Zach Kershman, I'm Craig

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Speaker 1: real Lou. We'll talk to you next time here on

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Speaker 1: Cardinals Cover two