1 00:00:00,040 --> 00:00:03,840 Speaker 1: I'm a lover, gotta fight. Welcome in Jaguars, Happy our JP. 2 00:00:03,920 --> 00:00:09,960 Speaker 1: Shadrick Jeff Lagavan reporting for duty in Jacksonville. Tony Vaselli 3 00:00:10,320 --> 00:00:16,480 Speaker 1: is in the Great White North Minnesota. What's up, Tony? 4 00:00:16,760 --> 00:00:21,320 Speaker 1: What's up? Boys? Where you're in Minneapolis? Yeah, just outside 5 00:00:21,320 --> 00:00:25,440 Speaker 1: in Minneapolis. So today logs, what's the temperature here? About 6 00:00:25,480 --> 00:00:29,440 Speaker 1: eighty four? Tony, what's the temperature in Minneapolis? Well, I 7 00:00:29,480 --> 00:00:33,520 Speaker 1: woke up this morning and it was minus fourteen and 8 00:00:33,720 --> 00:00:36,280 Speaker 1: it really warmed up though, it's up to minus two. 9 00:00:37,240 --> 00:00:40,479 Speaker 1: I got my mom, mom's side of family. Tony is 10 00:00:40,520 --> 00:00:43,440 Speaker 1: not far from where you are, in the great state 11 00:00:43,440 --> 00:00:47,159 Speaker 1: of North Dakota, and so I got some cousins that 12 00:00:47,159 --> 00:00:50,159 Speaker 1: are scouttered around the state of North Dakota, and a 13 00:00:50,200 --> 00:00:54,000 Speaker 1: couple of them were putting out some information on Facebook 14 00:00:54,640 --> 00:00:59,840 Speaker 1: today and yesterday that it was minus forty three there yesterday. 15 00:01:00,400 --> 00:01:03,640 Speaker 1: You can have it. That'll wake you up. It's the 16 00:01:03,840 --> 00:01:07,360 Speaker 1: great equalizer. Nobody has an advantage when it's that cold. 17 00:01:07,400 --> 00:01:09,959 Speaker 1: I've lived it before. My beautiful, beautiful area to be 18 00:01:10,040 --> 00:01:13,479 Speaker 1: in in the summertime, but in the wintertime. Run. Here's 19 00:01:13,480 --> 00:01:15,400 Speaker 1: what we're getting to on the program. You know, hold 20 00:01:15,440 --> 00:01:16,840 Speaker 1: on before you get to what we're gonna get to. 21 00:01:17,400 --> 00:01:19,960 Speaker 1: Hold on, Jeff, you say that, like, so I had 22 00:01:19,959 --> 00:01:23,600 Speaker 1: to meet I met with this individual today in their 23 00:01:23,680 --> 00:01:29,200 Speaker 1: favorite time of year is winter in Minnesota because I 24 00:01:29,319 --> 00:01:34,160 Speaker 1: love snowbilling. I love snowbiling, They love ice fishing, they 25 00:01:34,240 --> 00:01:37,520 Speaker 1: love lighting the fire in their house, and like a 26 00:01:37,640 --> 00:01:41,120 Speaker 1: it's like everything with winter. And their comment was, you 27 00:01:41,120 --> 00:01:43,559 Speaker 1: can you always put more clothes on to stay warm. 28 00:01:43,880 --> 00:01:47,000 Speaker 1: Sometimes you can't take enough clothes off to cool down. Tony. 29 00:01:47,080 --> 00:01:51,680 Speaker 1: You know I'm an outdoorsman, right, okay, and you're a 30 00:01:51,680 --> 00:01:54,520 Speaker 1: bit of an outdoorsman. He likes fish a little bit. Yeah, 31 00:01:54,640 --> 00:01:59,080 Speaker 1: what would you rather do? Jet ski or snowbill or 32 00:02:00,080 --> 00:02:04,480 Speaker 1: just heat fish? Casting the different places on a boat 33 00:02:04,520 --> 00:02:08,720 Speaker 1: wearing short sleeve shirts and flip flops, or staring at 34 00:02:08,760 --> 00:02:13,239 Speaker 1: a little hole in a tent that's got a little heat. No, 35 00:02:13,480 --> 00:02:16,000 Speaker 1: but these people are serious. It's not just a little tense. 36 00:02:16,600 --> 00:02:19,760 Speaker 1: Talk to this guy. He's taking his two daughters with 37 00:02:19,800 --> 00:02:22,240 Speaker 1: his buddies. And the buddies two daughters like an hour 38 00:02:22,280 --> 00:02:26,239 Speaker 1: and a half north and they rent they build houses 39 00:02:27,520 --> 00:02:31,840 Speaker 1: three miles out on this lake and on this house 40 00:02:32,040 --> 00:02:36,880 Speaker 1: as heating stove like cooking, and they will spend a 41 00:02:36,960 --> 00:02:40,400 Speaker 1: week out there, three miles out of this lake, eating 42 00:02:40,400 --> 00:02:44,120 Speaker 1: and hanging out and fishing all day. Yeah, that sounds 43 00:02:45,600 --> 00:02:47,520 Speaker 1: I'll think, is the ice of these lakes. I don't 44 00:02:47,520 --> 00:02:55,440 Speaker 1: even know these questions. This I remember as a kid 45 00:02:56,080 --> 00:03:00,800 Speaker 1: and my my grandfather lived and family lived in a 46 00:03:00,840 --> 00:03:04,040 Speaker 1: little town called Langdon, North Dakota's kind of sidebar thing here, 47 00:03:04,600 --> 00:03:06,240 Speaker 1: and so in the wintertime, I mean, the only thing 48 00:03:06,280 --> 00:03:08,280 Speaker 1: you could do is you have to have toys. I mean, 49 00:03:08,320 --> 00:03:10,560 Speaker 1: as a as a teenage kid. Well, my cousin Dan, 50 00:03:10,680 --> 00:03:13,720 Speaker 1: who was like the scourge of Langdon because he was 51 00:03:13,760 --> 00:03:17,520 Speaker 1: always getting in trouble because that's what he did. And 52 00:03:18,080 --> 00:03:20,680 Speaker 1: we went to snowmobiling on a frozen lake one time 53 00:03:21,680 --> 00:03:23,960 Speaker 1: and it was one of the greatest experiences ever in 54 00:03:24,000 --> 00:03:26,600 Speaker 1: my life. And it was great, but I don't care 55 00:03:26,639 --> 00:03:28,680 Speaker 1: to go back and do it again. This is the 56 00:03:28,680 --> 00:03:32,120 Speaker 1: early edition, early edition of The Outdoor Show this week 57 00:03:32,200 --> 00:03:34,520 Speaker 1: right here. I'll tell you I learned this too, Jeff. 58 00:03:34,560 --> 00:03:39,160 Speaker 1: So up here there's like like huge fines because what 59 00:03:39,280 --> 00:03:44,120 Speaker 1: happens is the rule is twelve inches of ice or 60 00:03:44,200 --> 00:03:47,840 Speaker 1: more can hold the pickup truck. You get under that 61 00:03:47,920 --> 00:03:52,040 Speaker 1: you start getting a little bit you know, diffy and 62 00:03:52,080 --> 00:03:56,600 Speaker 1: what and by I think it's January February March one, 63 00:03:57,920 --> 00:04:01,400 Speaker 1: the Forest and Wildlife whatever the organization is called. And 64 00:04:01,920 --> 00:04:06,720 Speaker 1: you no longer allowed to have houses permitent house structures 65 00:04:06,760 --> 00:04:11,280 Speaker 1: on the lakes. You can still drive out there, yeah, 66 00:04:11,320 --> 00:04:13,000 Speaker 1: because I fear of falling, but you can still drive 67 00:04:13,040 --> 00:04:16,120 Speaker 1: out there. However, if you drive out on this lake 68 00:04:16,360 --> 00:04:18,760 Speaker 1: and you your truck falls in, or if you have 69 00:04:18,800 --> 00:04:21,880 Speaker 1: a permanent structure that goes into the water, the minimum 70 00:04:21,960 --> 00:04:25,440 Speaker 1: fine is like twenty dollars and you have to pay 71 00:04:25,520 --> 00:04:28,680 Speaker 1: to get it all out. It's fancy get off. And 72 00:04:28,760 --> 00:04:31,440 Speaker 1: so just buddy of mine, the guy I was talking 73 00:04:31,480 --> 00:04:33,960 Speaker 1: to you, said, I go, how how often does this happen? 74 00:04:34,000 --> 00:04:36,880 Speaker 1: He says, every year, two or three guys. Because they 75 00:04:36,920 --> 00:04:39,520 Speaker 1: have to be the first ones out there. We'll go 76 00:04:39,560 --> 00:04:43,279 Speaker 1: out there early before the lake is thick enough, and 77 00:04:43,320 --> 00:04:45,440 Speaker 1: they'll get out there in the trucks, and the trucks 78 00:04:45,440 --> 00:04:47,560 Speaker 1: will go down to the bottom of the lake and 79 00:04:47,600 --> 00:04:51,600 Speaker 1: then they have to pay divers. I mean, you got 80 00:04:51,600 --> 00:04:55,280 Speaker 1: to get the good fish. They're trying to do is 81 00:04:55,320 --> 00:04:58,440 Speaker 1: you're trying to say the honey hoole fishing spot trying 82 00:04:58,440 --> 00:05:02,720 Speaker 1: to lake claim to that. I will tell you one 83 00:05:02,800 --> 00:05:05,040 Speaker 1: last story about Lane in or Dakota, when I was 84 00:05:05,040 --> 00:05:06,480 Speaker 1: a kid and went up there at that same time. 85 00:05:06,520 --> 00:05:09,440 Speaker 1: I'll never forget my cousin Dan let me have the 86 00:05:09,480 --> 00:05:12,120 Speaker 1: snow and Bill for a couple of days. And uh 87 00:05:12,720 --> 00:05:14,479 Speaker 1: so I decided I go out and ride around. And 88 00:05:14,480 --> 00:05:17,440 Speaker 1: I did, and I had goggles. Well, the goggles kept 89 00:05:17,520 --> 00:05:21,680 Speaker 1: fogging up because it was so cold. So I just said, 90 00:05:21,720 --> 00:05:23,000 Speaker 1: you know what, I'm not gonna wear the goggles. I 91 00:05:23,040 --> 00:05:24,839 Speaker 1: just put the goggles up on the helmet. I did 92 00:05:25,000 --> 00:05:27,760 Speaker 1: have a helmet, and I started driving the snow and Bill, 93 00:05:27,800 --> 00:05:29,520 Speaker 1: and he started going a little bit fast. Well, once 94 00:05:29,520 --> 00:05:33,120 Speaker 1: you start going a little bit fast, I blinked my 95 00:05:33,200 --> 00:05:37,920 Speaker 1: eyes and then I couldn't open them. My my eyelashes, Yes, 96 00:05:38,040 --> 00:05:42,279 Speaker 1: my tears from my eyes froze my eyelashes together, and 97 00:05:42,320 --> 00:05:44,919 Speaker 1: I had to slam the brakes on and stop and 98 00:05:45,000 --> 00:05:47,480 Speaker 1: chip the ice off of my eyelashes so I could 99 00:05:47,520 --> 00:05:51,280 Speaker 1: see again. And and so then anyway, finished the day 100 00:05:51,360 --> 00:05:53,520 Speaker 1: up finished. Ride could only go so fast because if 101 00:05:53,520 --> 00:05:55,880 Speaker 1: you went fast, my eyes fro shut. Couldn't wear the 102 00:05:55,880 --> 00:05:58,760 Speaker 1: goggles because they freeze up. And then I go back 103 00:05:58,839 --> 00:06:01,640 Speaker 1: to my grandfathers. And my mom sees me come in. 104 00:06:01,680 --> 00:06:03,279 Speaker 1: She's where in the world have you been. I said, 105 00:06:03,279 --> 00:06:04,800 Speaker 1: I've been rounding the snow andbell. She don't you know 106 00:06:04,800 --> 00:06:06,920 Speaker 1: how cold it is? Like, No, Mom, wasn't that bad. 107 00:06:07,560 --> 00:06:09,280 Speaker 1: I got to take my jacket off and I had 108 00:06:09,320 --> 00:06:12,479 Speaker 1: one of those nineteen seventies collars, you know, in a 109 00:06:12,520 --> 00:06:15,320 Speaker 1: winter jacket that had buttons up here on the neck, 110 00:06:15,960 --> 00:06:18,280 Speaker 1: and it looked like I had two hickeyes for most 111 00:06:18,320 --> 00:06:21,400 Speaker 1: of my teenage years because the buttons froze to my neck. 112 00:06:21,480 --> 00:06:24,080 Speaker 1: Had to get water and poured on the buttons to 113 00:06:24,160 --> 00:06:28,440 Speaker 1: get the metal off of my neck. That's how you know. 114 00:06:28,480 --> 00:06:30,760 Speaker 1: In the front page of the paper the next day, 115 00:06:31,160 --> 00:06:34,800 Speaker 1: New Record still got the newspaper to this day New 116 00:06:34,839 --> 00:06:39,360 Speaker 1: Record minus one d. That was the uh the far 117 00:06:39,400 --> 00:06:42,720 Speaker 1: Ago Dispatch or whatever was minus one hundred degrees. Yeah, 118 00:06:42,800 --> 00:06:46,440 Speaker 1: you probably should not have been out for more stories. Yes, 119 00:06:46,520 --> 00:06:49,400 Speaker 1: more stories like this Saturday morning on tinto Nextel the 120 00:06:49,400 --> 00:06:52,520 Speaker 1: Outdoors Show. Here's what's coming up on the program today. 121 00:06:53,040 --> 00:06:57,080 Speaker 1: Quarterback coach hired Ben McAdoo. We'll discuss that hiring for 122 00:06:57,120 --> 00:07:00,440 Speaker 1: the Jaguars offense, and they're in the price us of 123 00:07:00,560 --> 00:07:04,440 Speaker 1: building this offense? He and j Gruden? How does that work? 124 00:07:05,200 --> 00:07:07,479 Speaker 1: We'll get these guys thoughts on that quarterback talk is 125 00:07:07,520 --> 00:07:12,400 Speaker 1: always defensive decisions are looming, and we'll go around the 126 00:07:12,480 --> 00:07:15,680 Speaker 1: National Football League as well. It's what's coming up. Joking 127 00:07:15,720 --> 00:07:18,640 Speaker 1: around there about some of the cold weather, but seriously, 128 00:07:18,720 --> 00:07:23,160 Speaker 1: how that relates to this organization in this football team. 129 00:07:23,200 --> 00:07:26,560 Speaker 1: If you're a free agent, do you want to do 130 00:07:26,640 --> 00:07:29,560 Speaker 1: what we just talked about and live in in Minnesota 131 00:07:30,560 --> 00:07:37,000 Speaker 1: or Green Bay or Detroit or Chicago or New York, 132 00:07:37,400 --> 00:07:38,840 Speaker 1: or do you want to come down here and when 133 00:07:38,880 --> 00:07:41,680 Speaker 1: you have an off season, when you have an off 134 00:07:41,680 --> 00:07:44,800 Speaker 1: season as an NFL player, to have the weather that 135 00:07:44,880 --> 00:07:50,960 Speaker 1: you can enjoy all different kinds of activities indoors and outdoors. Well, Jeff, 136 00:07:51,240 --> 00:07:53,680 Speaker 1: that's not what I make my decision based on. But 137 00:07:53,800 --> 00:07:55,640 Speaker 1: I tell you what I wouldn't make my decision based 138 00:07:55,640 --> 00:07:57,760 Speaker 1: on the fact that there's zero state income tax in 139 00:07:57,800 --> 00:08:00,600 Speaker 1: Florida and up here in Minnesota it's like the third highest. 140 00:08:00,600 --> 00:08:03,720 Speaker 1: I think it's twelve, eleven or twelve, And so did 141 00:08:03,840 --> 00:08:06,640 Speaker 1: I rather have eleven or twelve percent less money or 142 00:08:07,880 --> 00:08:09,800 Speaker 1: would I like to keep that? Compared to paint to 143 00:08:09,800 --> 00:08:12,600 Speaker 1: the government. And the same goes for Illinois, California, and 144 00:08:12,640 --> 00:08:15,840 Speaker 1: New York, all piloting on the scale to wait in 145 00:08:15,880 --> 00:08:19,280 Speaker 1: the favor on the side of Jacksonville. And here's the thing, 146 00:08:19,360 --> 00:08:23,520 Speaker 1: you know, the most favorable, the three most favorable markets 147 00:08:23,880 --> 00:08:29,560 Speaker 1: to play in from a teams to play in as 148 00:08:29,640 --> 00:08:35,079 Speaker 1: far as a tax consequences, No, which teams are the 149 00:08:35,160 --> 00:08:41,080 Speaker 1: most favorable. Well, this this Jacksonville financial standpoint, we'll get 150 00:08:41,080 --> 00:08:49,400 Speaker 1: me there too. Houston, okay, and Tampa Nope, the three teams. 151 00:08:49,440 --> 00:08:51,120 Speaker 1: If you want to pay the least amount of taxes 152 00:08:51,679 --> 00:08:54,280 Speaker 1: as a football player, you should play in Houston, Texas, 153 00:08:55,040 --> 00:09:00,920 Speaker 1: Tennessee Titans, Jacksonville Jaguars. The reason is is because Tennessee, 154 00:09:01,000 --> 00:09:04,760 Speaker 1: Texas and jackson will have zero state income tax. And 155 00:09:05,480 --> 00:09:07,559 Speaker 1: if you play in Jackson when you go, you play 156 00:09:07,760 --> 00:09:09,679 Speaker 1: Houston every year, and you play Tennessee every year, and 157 00:09:09,720 --> 00:09:12,440 Speaker 1: you're not gonna pay income taxes as a visiting team 158 00:09:12,520 --> 00:09:15,600 Speaker 1: in those markets as well. So you're guaranteed eight home 159 00:09:15,679 --> 00:09:19,200 Speaker 1: games plus two at least two away games every year, 160 00:09:19,240 --> 00:09:23,240 Speaker 1: ten games with zero tax consequence from a state income tax. 161 00:09:23,960 --> 00:09:26,360 Speaker 1: Kind of add one carry the one I don't know 162 00:09:26,400 --> 00:09:30,280 Speaker 1: the mass Yeah, well, unless you unless you're Indianapolis and 163 00:09:30,840 --> 00:09:36,000 Speaker 1: the game is in London. No, the Indianapolis has Indiana 164 00:09:36,080 --> 00:09:42,480 Speaker 1: has state income, Tennessee or Houston. Again, if you think 165 00:09:42,520 --> 00:09:45,600 Speaker 1: about the tax laws in London, you have to make 166 00:09:45,679 --> 00:09:48,960 Speaker 1: over a threshold before it to make any consequence even 167 00:09:49,280 --> 00:09:51,000 Speaker 1: playing in London. And then I know you know that, 168 00:09:51,040 --> 00:09:53,480 Speaker 1: and I want you to explain that because there was 169 00:09:53,520 --> 00:09:57,880 Speaker 1: a little bit of misinformation that was put out um 170 00:09:57,920 --> 00:10:03,120 Speaker 1: about what the tax concept points is are in London. Well, 171 00:10:03,160 --> 00:10:06,560 Speaker 1: what's the real story with that? So I don't want 172 00:10:06,559 --> 00:10:08,800 Speaker 1: to get into the details. I'll message give there's a 173 00:10:08,880 --> 00:10:11,760 Speaker 1: complex like formula. But you have to make over a 174 00:10:11,800 --> 00:10:14,040 Speaker 1: certain amount of money which no one will actually make 175 00:10:14,080 --> 00:10:17,480 Speaker 1: and even if you touch it, it is a nominal 176 00:10:18,360 --> 00:10:23,320 Speaker 1: tax consequence almost you know, nonexistent um for playing in 177 00:10:23,360 --> 00:10:28,200 Speaker 1: London one or two games. And so this whole ringing 178 00:10:28,200 --> 00:10:30,880 Speaker 1: of the hands and worry of oh my gosh, you 179 00:10:30,920 --> 00:10:32,840 Speaker 1: know it's gonna hurt free agency, it's and hurt people 180 00:10:32,840 --> 00:10:35,280 Speaker 1: because of the tax consequence of playing two games in 181 00:10:35,320 --> 00:10:38,240 Speaker 1: London is a myth and it is not real. Because 182 00:10:38,280 --> 00:10:42,320 Speaker 1: of the the floor which let's say it's four million dollars, 183 00:10:42,400 --> 00:10:45,720 Speaker 1: you have to make before it kicks into a certain 184 00:10:45,800 --> 00:10:49,360 Speaker 1: level for the London tax structure, whatever it is making 185 00:10:49,400 --> 00:10:52,480 Speaker 1: that that formula, I think it's right around that number. Um. 186 00:10:52,559 --> 00:10:55,760 Speaker 1: And if you're a Jaguar player and you're only playing 187 00:10:56,480 --> 00:11:00,720 Speaker 1: two games there and so most players are not making 188 00:11:00,720 --> 00:11:04,200 Speaker 1: more than a million dollars a week, so you're probably 189 00:11:04,400 --> 00:11:06,320 Speaker 1: you know, you're not going to get there if you 190 00:11:06,400 --> 00:11:09,920 Speaker 1: even barely touch it. It's a nominal impact that most 191 00:11:10,240 --> 00:11:15,520 Speaker 1: and I wonder if if it's broken down by the day. Yes, yeah, 192 00:11:15,720 --> 00:11:17,280 Speaker 1: And I wanted to bring that up because you know, 193 00:11:17,320 --> 00:11:20,679 Speaker 1: for a long time, when when we would go and 194 00:11:20,720 --> 00:11:24,199 Speaker 1: play in the state of California, the state of California 195 00:11:24,240 --> 00:11:28,480 Speaker 1: would try to tax you on one seventeenth of your salary, 196 00:11:28,600 --> 00:11:32,080 Speaker 1: which essentially, because you know, NFL players get paid seventeen 197 00:11:32,120 --> 00:11:34,440 Speaker 1: game checks, so the sixteen games in the bye weeks, 198 00:11:34,480 --> 00:11:38,360 Speaker 1: you're getting seventeen checks, so the state of California would 199 00:11:38,360 --> 00:11:40,840 Speaker 1: try to tax you on one seventeenth of your entire 200 00:11:41,280 --> 00:11:50,000 Speaker 1: entire annual salary. Well, tax attorneys argued successfully that it's 201 00:11:50,080 --> 00:11:52,640 Speaker 1: that it's doesn't have anything to do with game checks. 202 00:11:52,640 --> 00:11:54,480 Speaker 1: It has to do with what we call duty days 203 00:11:54,520 --> 00:11:58,000 Speaker 1: or work days, and a NFL an NFL player works 204 00:11:58,000 --> 00:12:01,360 Speaker 1: in the average of two fifty plus days a year, 205 00:12:01,920 --> 00:12:04,360 Speaker 1: and so now it's have here there for two days, 206 00:12:04,400 --> 00:12:09,640 Speaker 1: it's two over two hundred fifty or one. That's the 207 00:12:09,679 --> 00:12:12,800 Speaker 1: taxable amount coming to California. So that has all changed. 208 00:12:12,800 --> 00:12:15,440 Speaker 1: And I'm sure it's the same type of thing in London, 209 00:12:15,520 --> 00:12:18,880 Speaker 1: but there's no real there's no consequences. So and so 210 00:12:19,040 --> 00:12:21,160 Speaker 1: the threshold Tony is talking about, a lot of people say, 211 00:12:21,200 --> 00:12:24,800 Speaker 1: well four million, what plays is making fifteen Well, he's 212 00:12:24,840 --> 00:12:27,840 Speaker 1: not making that in a couple of days, so even 213 00:12:27,840 --> 00:12:31,439 Speaker 1: in ten days. It might not exactly nobody's making that 214 00:12:31,559 --> 00:12:36,360 Speaker 1: in ten days, and maybe might be the four million 215 00:12:36,440 --> 00:12:40,040 Speaker 1: might not be the exact number I made that, but 216 00:12:40,080 --> 00:12:42,280 Speaker 1: it's somewhere around there. It doesn't matter. The bottom line exists. 217 00:12:42,320 --> 00:12:45,800 Speaker 1: There's zero top there's zero real tax consequence for playing 218 00:12:45,800 --> 00:12:49,120 Speaker 1: in London for a player. For shod that's a different 219 00:12:49,120 --> 00:12:53,480 Speaker 1: story for a player. So you see how we weave 220 00:12:53,559 --> 00:12:57,359 Speaker 1: that kind of cold weather storyline, And that's pretty good. 221 00:12:57,080 --> 00:12:59,080 Speaker 1: It's because I mean, that's the reality. Mean, there's so 222 00:12:59,080 --> 00:13:02,440 Speaker 1: many different This is a very attractive market for a 223 00:13:02,440 --> 00:13:05,440 Speaker 1: lot of different reasons. Uh, Now you just need to 224 00:13:05,440 --> 00:13:08,600 Speaker 1: to get what the player well. First of all, first 225 00:13:08,600 --> 00:13:12,400 Speaker 1: thing the player is gonna want side the contract, and 226 00:13:12,720 --> 00:13:18,800 Speaker 1: number two the stability and they expected success of the franchise. 227 00:13:19,000 --> 00:13:21,000 Speaker 1: That's the part that needs to be worked on. And 228 00:13:21,160 --> 00:13:26,360 Speaker 1: everything else the financial implications, attracting place to live, cost 229 00:13:26,400 --> 00:13:29,520 Speaker 1: a living, et cetera. Jacksonville has the upper hand on 230 00:13:29,640 --> 00:13:32,400 Speaker 1: a lot of that stuff. So from from a free 231 00:13:32,440 --> 00:13:35,959 Speaker 1: agency standpoint, this is a very attractive destination. Hey, I'm 232 00:13:35,960 --> 00:13:38,640 Speaker 1: gonna live an example of it. Let's come back. We'll 233 00:13:38,679 --> 00:13:41,360 Speaker 1: get into the new hire for the Jaguars. Ben McAdoo, 234 00:13:41,480 --> 00:13:45,120 Speaker 1: quarterbacks coach for Giants head coach. Warning the Jaguars staff, 235 00:13:45,120 --> 00:13:48,040 Speaker 1: we're often running It's Jaguars Happy Hour on the Jaguars 236 00:13:48,080 --> 00:13:56,439 Speaker 1: Digital Network. 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Kane Brown kicks it off March Cole 289 00:17:13,320 --> 00:17:16,960 Speaker 1: Swindel April seventeen, a couple of shows in early May 290 00:17:17,160 --> 00:17:20,320 Speaker 1: came Brown back around for a second show May sixteenth, 291 00:17:20,800 --> 00:17:23,640 Speaker 1: and then these guys, the lumin Ears May nineteenth and 292 00:17:23,800 --> 00:17:27,240 Speaker 1: twenty at Daily's Place. Great shows coming up in the 293 00:17:27,320 --> 00:17:30,560 Speaker 1: summer as well, the Jubie Brothers, Michael McDonald on tour 294 00:17:30,640 --> 00:17:33,400 Speaker 1: with him Now and Todesk trucks Man with St. Paul 295 00:17:33,400 --> 00:17:36,320 Speaker 1: and the Broken Bones. Tickets at Daily's Place dot com. 296 00:17:36,400 --> 00:17:38,600 Speaker 1: What a schedule is gonna be? Tony will be on 297 00:17:38,600 --> 00:17:41,920 Speaker 1: the couch up front for every one of them. Yes, 298 00:17:42,119 --> 00:17:45,520 Speaker 1: I mean the h There's a lot of acts I 299 00:17:45,600 --> 00:17:49,960 Speaker 1: might see there, col Swindell, Kane Brown. I like obviously 300 00:17:51,000 --> 00:17:55,919 Speaker 1: Trucks is always as the favorite Luminaries. This is some 301 00:17:56,000 --> 00:18:00,200 Speaker 1: good tunes right here. I mean, what great shows you 302 00:18:00,480 --> 00:18:03,639 Speaker 1: love him so much? What was the name of this No, 303 00:18:03,720 --> 00:18:05,560 Speaker 1: I didn't. This is why I didn't know this band. 304 00:18:05,600 --> 00:18:09,080 Speaker 1: I said it said, I like this too, the Luminaries ears. 305 00:18:11,000 --> 00:18:15,040 Speaker 1: I was actually just just just this great dan um. 306 00:18:15,840 --> 00:18:17,720 Speaker 1: I really like him. And I don't know. I was 307 00:18:17,800 --> 00:18:20,200 Speaker 1: just checking the calendar to see what day of the 308 00:18:20,240 --> 00:18:21,800 Speaker 1: week that is, to see if I might be able 309 00:18:21,800 --> 00:18:24,720 Speaker 1: to end my schedule, and and I actually can't do that, 310 00:18:24,880 --> 00:18:28,879 Speaker 1: which is it's Tuesday, Tuesday and Wednesday, right back to 311 00:18:28,920 --> 00:18:34,720 Speaker 1: back night. I've never they have. They have more songs. 312 00:18:34,760 --> 00:18:38,720 Speaker 1: This is a good tune. I don't think they're playing 313 00:18:38,720 --> 00:18:41,720 Speaker 1: this song for two hours straight both nights. No, but 314 00:18:41,720 --> 00:18:45,600 Speaker 1: I'm saying this is this is a new Uh. I'm saying, 315 00:18:45,680 --> 00:18:47,480 Speaker 1: are they are? There are a bunch of good songs. JP, 316 00:18:48,359 --> 00:18:50,680 Speaker 1: They've got good stuff. You're trying to have a conversation 317 00:18:50,720 --> 00:18:54,440 Speaker 1: about The Daily's place, and because I'm curious, I love 318 00:18:54,520 --> 00:18:56,680 Speaker 1: that place, as you know, it's went home away from home. 319 00:18:57,359 --> 00:19:00,639 Speaker 1: And the Luminaries. I've never heard of me. Tell why 320 00:19:00,840 --> 00:19:02,959 Speaker 1: why don't you make a phone call and get the 321 00:19:03,000 --> 00:19:05,639 Speaker 1: couch and we'll all the four of us will go. 322 00:19:05,920 --> 00:19:10,200 Speaker 1: Then we'll get JP to go. Not you're that, you're 323 00:19:10,240 --> 00:19:12,720 Speaker 1: that's you're not that in that four j You don't 324 00:19:12,720 --> 00:19:17,040 Speaker 1: even know the band. Bame. It doesn't matter. I get 325 00:19:17,040 --> 00:19:19,159 Speaker 1: a dictate who goes, and right now you're on the 326 00:19:19,320 --> 00:19:21,920 Speaker 1: I'm out. I'm out, Yeah, right now you're out. It's 327 00:19:22,000 --> 00:19:25,200 Speaker 1: me Angie Tara. Okay, Well, I don't want to be 328 00:19:25,240 --> 00:19:28,280 Speaker 1: the fifth wheel anyway. Good. I mean, I love you guys, 329 00:19:28,720 --> 00:19:32,280 Speaker 1: all you guys, but I'm not I'm not happy with 330 00:19:32,320 --> 00:19:38,320 Speaker 1: you right now. Yeah, it's fair. Um so hey, the 331 00:19:38,400 --> 00:19:42,720 Speaker 1: Jack's hired again. Ben McAdoo is now the quarterbacks coach 332 00:19:42,760 --> 00:19:46,840 Speaker 1: with the Jacksonville Jaguars, former Giants head coach, former Giants 333 00:19:47,560 --> 00:19:52,600 Speaker 1: offensive coordinator and quarterbacks coach. Yes, Tony, sorry to erupt. 334 00:19:52,840 --> 00:19:55,000 Speaker 1: Remember this about a month ago we were saying, is 335 00:19:55,040 --> 00:19:58,240 Speaker 1: it too late to hire and make changes on the staff. 336 00:19:58,280 --> 00:20:01,280 Speaker 1: That was a month ago, with that conversation. That's true, right, 337 00:20:01,720 --> 00:20:05,399 Speaker 1: it's just happened recently the other day. We also talked 338 00:20:05,400 --> 00:20:08,679 Speaker 1: at that time about what what would a candidate for 339 00:20:08,720 --> 00:20:12,720 Speaker 1: this staff look like. And we talked about how in 340 00:20:12,760 --> 00:20:16,840 Speaker 1: some cases it would be uh, an offensive coordinator for 341 00:20:16,880 --> 00:20:19,119 Speaker 1: that matter, that somebody's not looking to be a head coach, 342 00:20:19,200 --> 00:20:22,920 Speaker 1: maybe somebody that was a head coach or somebody that 343 00:20:23,920 --> 00:20:26,080 Speaker 1: once back in the league. I mean, this is the 344 00:20:26,080 --> 00:20:28,560 Speaker 1: case I think with Ben McAdoo. I mean, here's a 345 00:20:28,560 --> 00:20:31,359 Speaker 1: guy that I mean, he's been out of the league 346 00:20:31,400 --> 00:20:36,280 Speaker 1: for a while, right, a couple of years. Uh, And 347 00:20:36,320 --> 00:20:39,520 Speaker 1: I'm not not criticizing him whatsoever. And the fact of 348 00:20:39,520 --> 00:20:41,800 Speaker 1: the matter is is that you know, here was a 349 00:20:41,840 --> 00:20:44,480 Speaker 1: guy that was hungered for a job and more than qualified, 350 00:20:45,280 --> 00:20:49,000 Speaker 1: but the situation that in New York didn't end in 351 00:20:49,040 --> 00:20:51,760 Speaker 1: a variable favor in a favorable light, so it was 352 00:20:51,840 --> 00:20:55,240 Speaker 1: viewed in a negative fashion by many people, unfortunately. But 353 00:20:55,320 --> 00:20:58,440 Speaker 1: he's a more than qualified coach and UH, I think 354 00:20:58,440 --> 00:21:01,000 Speaker 1: it's a good hire by Doug Moron. I Doug has 355 00:21:01,040 --> 00:21:04,119 Speaker 1: had two very good hires on the offensive side of 356 00:21:04,160 --> 00:21:07,879 Speaker 1: the ball and UH both with with Gruden and macadoo. 357 00:21:09,040 --> 00:21:11,560 Speaker 1: Think about on this staff and on this team now, 358 00:21:12,119 --> 00:21:15,119 Speaker 1: the half the NFC East is on the coaching staff 359 00:21:15,160 --> 00:21:17,679 Speaker 1: from last year the last couple of years, Jake Gruden 360 00:21:17,800 --> 00:21:20,400 Speaker 1: and then macadoo and Nick Foles is in the quarterback room. 361 00:21:20,440 --> 00:21:23,560 Speaker 1: It's three fourths of the NFC East over the last 362 00:21:23,600 --> 00:21:27,399 Speaker 1: couple of years. No, I mean the real, you know, 363 00:21:27,520 --> 00:21:31,600 Speaker 1: ultimate test is gonna be where are you at? Record wise? 364 00:21:32,080 --> 00:21:36,160 Speaker 1: Where are you at? Production wise? Is an offense and 365 00:21:36,240 --> 00:21:40,480 Speaker 1: this is an extremely important higher because this is gonna 366 00:21:40,560 --> 00:21:44,200 Speaker 1: have a lot of say so into who the quarterback 367 00:21:44,320 --> 00:21:50,040 Speaker 1: is for the Jaguars. Oh yeah, right, I mean absolutely, 368 00:21:50,119 --> 00:21:52,879 Speaker 1: the embarrassment of riches. At some point there has to 369 00:21:52,920 --> 00:21:56,200 Speaker 1: be a decision made who's going to be the guy? 370 00:21:56,480 --> 00:22:01,439 Speaker 1: And Doug Marone, Jay Gruden and Ben McAdoo not to 371 00:22:01,440 --> 00:22:03,679 Speaker 1: be confused with Bob, because Tony put that in my 372 00:22:03,680 --> 00:22:06,359 Speaker 1: head a little while ago and was trying to confuse me. 373 00:22:08,560 --> 00:22:11,160 Speaker 1: Did you like to explain who Bob McAdoo is? Please? 374 00:22:11,840 --> 00:22:15,200 Speaker 1: Power power forward from the Lakers played some hoops back 375 00:22:15,240 --> 00:22:18,080 Speaker 1: in the day, Back in the back in the day, 376 00:22:18,119 --> 00:22:20,280 Speaker 1: though a while he was seventies, right, yeah, back in 377 00:22:20,320 --> 00:22:24,520 Speaker 1: the day. It's a day. It's back in Joe Fortunato's 378 00:22:24,600 --> 00:22:31,359 Speaker 1: day about laughter in the distance. When I said that 379 00:22:33,200 --> 00:22:37,280 Speaker 1: it's been a while, it's been a while. So here's 380 00:22:37,280 --> 00:22:39,680 Speaker 1: a question I have for you. Obviously, you have Jay 381 00:22:39,680 --> 00:22:44,520 Speaker 1: Gruden's coming in with his offense and he's got you know, 382 00:22:44,560 --> 00:22:47,600 Speaker 1: Been McAdoo in the quarterback room and all that. How 383 00:22:47,640 --> 00:22:50,679 Speaker 1: long does it take for a staff that's here in 384 00:22:50,760 --> 00:22:54,400 Speaker 1: place already to adapt to his offense. How does that work? 385 00:22:54,600 --> 00:22:57,679 Speaker 1: Let me let me start real quick, Tony, and I 386 00:22:57,680 --> 00:22:59,960 Speaker 1: think it's gonna be interesting to see when Jay Gruden 387 00:23:00,160 --> 00:23:02,479 Speaker 1: comes in the door. I mean, he's he's got his 388 00:23:02,480 --> 00:23:06,879 Speaker 1: own terminology, he's got his own way of talking offense. 389 00:23:07,760 --> 00:23:13,399 Speaker 1: Does Jay come in and learn the Jaguars offensive terminology 390 00:23:13,520 --> 00:23:18,240 Speaker 1: or does he completely change it? My guess if if 391 00:23:18,280 --> 00:23:20,920 Speaker 1: you want your quarterbacks and everybody else to be able 392 00:23:21,040 --> 00:23:24,800 Speaker 1: to start faster is and now you have less people 393 00:23:24,800 --> 00:23:27,160 Speaker 1: to learn, is that you have the new coaches learn 394 00:23:27,240 --> 00:23:30,960 Speaker 1: the current terminology that you have, and that the coaches 395 00:23:31,000 --> 00:23:35,320 Speaker 1: adjust and adapt to that terminology so that the players 396 00:23:36,280 --> 00:23:38,680 Speaker 1: have a language. And I might be totally wrong, maybe 397 00:23:38,680 --> 00:23:41,080 Speaker 1: they feel like that, Hey, look we need our coaches 398 00:23:41,600 --> 00:23:45,240 Speaker 1: and our head uh offensive guy, our offensive coordinator to 399 00:23:45,240 --> 00:23:47,359 Speaker 1: be able to have his terminology because he can better 400 00:23:47,400 --> 00:23:51,080 Speaker 1: teach it. Uh. But I would expect though, that Jay 401 00:23:51,080 --> 00:23:52,840 Speaker 1: Gruen's coming the door and he's had to learn the 402 00:23:52,920 --> 00:23:57,600 Speaker 1: Jaguars way of talking and then implement his offense with 403 00:23:58,040 --> 00:24:02,160 Speaker 1: a lot of input from the offensive that's currently already here. 404 00:24:02,880 --> 00:24:06,480 Speaker 1: Would you agree with that, Tony, Yeah, I think this 405 00:24:06,600 --> 00:24:08,760 Speaker 1: is Jay system. I think will be Jay's language. I 406 00:24:08,760 --> 00:24:12,640 Speaker 1: think it will be Jay's philosophies that obviously other people 407 00:24:12,640 --> 00:24:15,560 Speaker 1: will be bought into and be a part of. But 408 00:24:15,600 --> 00:24:17,800 Speaker 1: I think I think Jay Gruden's offense. I don't think 409 00:24:17,840 --> 00:24:20,480 Speaker 1: Jay's learning in the system. I think he's bringing his offense. 410 00:24:20,840 --> 00:24:24,200 Speaker 1: So you think they'll change the terminology, I I well, 411 00:24:24,600 --> 00:24:26,159 Speaker 1: I think they'll maybe trying to marry it as much 412 00:24:26,200 --> 00:24:30,879 Speaker 1: as possible. Um, But I think TI goes to the 413 00:24:30,880 --> 00:24:33,760 Speaker 1: new coordinator. I think Jay Gruden is good. I mean, 414 00:24:33,840 --> 00:24:35,960 Speaker 1: Jay Gruden has a philosophy, he has a way that 415 00:24:36,040 --> 00:24:39,320 Speaker 1: he wants to do things, and that he's comfortable with it. 416 00:24:39,359 --> 00:24:40,680 Speaker 1: He's done for a while. It is both as a 417 00:24:40,760 --> 00:24:43,200 Speaker 1: coordinator at the Sincinnati Bengals is the head coach of 418 00:24:43,200 --> 00:24:46,120 Speaker 1: the Redskins. It'll be interesting to see if that if 419 00:24:46,119 --> 00:24:47,760 Speaker 1: that is in fact the case. But I mean, because 420 00:24:47,800 --> 00:24:52,119 Speaker 1: you look at you know, you've got a lot of 421 00:24:52,160 --> 00:24:55,800 Speaker 1: coaches that are already on staff that have been working 422 00:24:55,960 --> 00:25:01,840 Speaker 1: this system, this language and so um only for a 423 00:25:01,920 --> 00:25:03,760 Speaker 1: year because it was brand new. It was brand new 424 00:25:03,840 --> 00:25:07,720 Speaker 1: last year with Flip. I mean, so you're like, listen, 425 00:25:07,720 --> 00:25:12,040 Speaker 1: I mean, I you say, most of the staff outside 426 00:25:12,040 --> 00:25:17,320 Speaker 1: of handful would go back to the Hackett language, which 427 00:25:17,400 --> 00:25:20,320 Speaker 1: is I doubt they kept or if they kept it 428 00:25:20,359 --> 00:25:22,680 Speaker 1: was you know, at least bastardized a little bit when 429 00:25:22,760 --> 00:25:24,840 Speaker 1: Flip came in because he brought his own stuff in. 430 00:25:25,560 --> 00:25:27,639 Speaker 1: And when he came in, they brought war up as 431 00:25:27,680 --> 00:25:32,760 Speaker 1: the new offensive line coach. So you know, did they 432 00:25:32,760 --> 00:25:35,320 Speaker 1: go and take Hackett's information to use his language or 433 00:25:35,960 --> 00:25:37,680 Speaker 1: in warps they No, we're gonna do it this way. 434 00:25:38,040 --> 00:25:41,480 Speaker 1: And now you have, for the third straight year a 435 00:25:41,480 --> 00:25:45,520 Speaker 1: new coordinator. Again that I don't know if there's a 436 00:25:45,560 --> 00:25:49,719 Speaker 1: consistent language, Jeff, because it's been hot. You have multiple 437 00:25:49,720 --> 00:25:52,479 Speaker 1: people all touching it. Until my guess is, if I'm 438 00:25:52,560 --> 00:25:54,520 Speaker 1: Jake Gruden, I know what I want, I know how 439 00:25:54,520 --> 00:25:56,479 Speaker 1: I want to communicate. This is what we're gonna do. 440 00:25:57,000 --> 00:25:59,840 Speaker 1: And we're all we've all been in this this league 441 00:25:59,840 --> 00:26:01,680 Speaker 1: for long time. As far as coaches, it's get on 442 00:26:01,680 --> 00:26:03,280 Speaker 1: the same page. It's get it right. Let's go teaching. 443 00:26:03,880 --> 00:26:06,000 Speaker 1: That'll be that'll be an interesting question. I've been that's 444 00:26:06,000 --> 00:26:09,840 Speaker 1: a question for the head coach that maybe we'll have 445 00:26:09,960 --> 00:26:13,199 Speaker 1: answered by next week's show, to see the direction that 446 00:26:13,200 --> 00:26:16,800 Speaker 1: they're gonna go. But to me, because if you're you're 447 00:26:16,840 --> 00:26:19,399 Speaker 1: you're trying to make the players as comfortable as you 448 00:26:19,440 --> 00:26:23,479 Speaker 1: possibly can and to allow them to learn at a 449 00:26:23,600 --> 00:26:29,800 Speaker 1: faster rate. My way of or thinking is that you 450 00:26:30,160 --> 00:26:32,800 Speaker 1: have the offensive coordinator just I mean, you've got you know, 451 00:26:32,840 --> 00:26:37,440 Speaker 1: your Warhop Kingdom of cardell Ron Middleton. You've got a 452 00:26:37,520 --> 00:26:42,600 Speaker 1: staff that, for the most part offensively has been intact. 453 00:26:43,200 --> 00:26:44,760 Speaker 1: So now you have one guy come in, do you 454 00:26:44,840 --> 00:26:47,480 Speaker 1: change everything or just have him learn your way of 455 00:26:47,520 --> 00:26:52,880 Speaker 1: talking but institute his way of doing offense. I don't know. Interesting, 456 00:26:52,440 --> 00:26:54,639 Speaker 1: he's gonna do his way for a long time. You'll 457 00:26:54,680 --> 00:26:58,919 Speaker 1: probably make the argument either way to be better, you know, 458 00:26:59,000 --> 00:27:03,680 Speaker 1: but whatever is the winning way? Bugs, I'm with you there. 459 00:27:02,600 --> 00:27:06,280 Speaker 1: That is the right answer. J There is no right answer. 460 00:27:06,480 --> 00:27:09,840 Speaker 1: The winning way is the right answer. Well, okay, you 461 00:27:09,920 --> 00:27:11,600 Speaker 1: just said there's no right answer, and then you said 462 00:27:11,680 --> 00:27:13,399 Speaker 1: this is the right answer, So make your mind up. 463 00:27:13,720 --> 00:27:16,640 Speaker 1: But here's the problem. You gotta make a call now, 464 00:27:18,080 --> 00:27:21,440 Speaker 1: and you know, you know you want to know when 465 00:27:21,480 --> 00:27:25,760 Speaker 1: you'll know you're right or not. Probably about halfway through 466 00:27:25,760 --> 00:27:27,879 Speaker 1: the season. You know, halfway through the season when you 467 00:27:27,920 --> 00:27:31,080 Speaker 1: find out what your record is, if you're in the 468 00:27:31,160 --> 00:27:35,360 Speaker 1: hunt or not. 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Yeah, 528 00:31:18,040 --> 00:31:21,440 Speaker 1: we're back. Jaguars Happy Hour rolls along, JP Shatrick, Jeff Logman, 529 00:31:21,520 --> 00:31:25,920 Speaker 1: Tony Basselli. We are in the midst of the off season, 530 00:31:26,200 --> 00:31:30,320 Speaker 1: but it will really crank up here soon. Today is 531 00:31:30,600 --> 00:31:38,920 Speaker 1: February coming up. You can begin tagging franchise players and 532 00:31:38,960 --> 00:31:42,360 Speaker 1: then marche is the official start of the league year. 533 00:31:42,520 --> 00:31:45,240 Speaker 1: There is a two day window to start negotiating with 534 00:31:45,360 --> 00:31:50,720 Speaker 1: agents of potential free agents before but the eighteenth, I 535 00:31:50,760 --> 00:31:54,160 Speaker 1: believe at four o'clock Eastern time, is the official opening 536 00:31:54,160 --> 00:31:56,600 Speaker 1: of free agency and by that time and the start 537 00:31:56,600 --> 00:31:58,080 Speaker 1: of the league year. By that time, you have to 538 00:31:58,120 --> 00:32:01,760 Speaker 1: be down below the salary cap. The Jaguars last, and 539 00:32:01,800 --> 00:32:04,640 Speaker 1: we've talked about this before, is it Depending on where 540 00:32:04,640 --> 00:32:06,240 Speaker 1: you're looking, it looks like they're a little bit over 541 00:32:06,320 --> 00:32:07,960 Speaker 1: right now. They gotta do some work to get down 542 00:32:08,000 --> 00:32:09,680 Speaker 1: first of all, and then get down enough to be 543 00:32:09,720 --> 00:32:12,160 Speaker 1: able to spend and there's a lot of movement in 544 00:32:12,200 --> 00:32:17,600 Speaker 1: the next month really ahead for this well in JP 545 00:32:17,800 --> 00:32:20,720 Speaker 1: and Jeff. In the middle of that, those big decisions 546 00:32:20,720 --> 00:32:22,480 Speaker 1: that we've talked about that you have to make by 547 00:32:22,720 --> 00:32:25,240 Speaker 1: what March eight teeth. You have the combine as well, 548 00:32:25,280 --> 00:32:27,600 Speaker 1: which is pushed back a week this year. It's the 549 00:32:27,720 --> 00:32:30,760 Speaker 1: last I think the last week in February. It's usually 550 00:32:30,760 --> 00:32:33,120 Speaker 1: going on right about now, but they pushed the back 551 00:32:33,160 --> 00:32:35,120 Speaker 1: a little bit. In the league. The league year is 552 00:32:35,160 --> 00:32:37,280 Speaker 1: actually starting a year like a week later as well. 553 00:32:37,360 --> 00:32:41,720 Speaker 1: This year for whatever reason, well, the seasons like a 554 00:32:41,760 --> 00:32:44,280 Speaker 1: week later the normal to it, it feels like because 555 00:32:45,400 --> 00:32:48,800 Speaker 1: what all it all depends on where Labor Day fail falls. 556 00:32:48,840 --> 00:32:50,960 Speaker 1: Like this year it was early because Labor Day fell 557 00:32:51,840 --> 00:32:55,160 Speaker 1: um right at the beginning of September. Uh, this year 558 00:32:55,200 --> 00:32:58,000 Speaker 1: it's gonna be at the like September eight, and so 559 00:32:58,120 --> 00:33:02,680 Speaker 1: to be pushed back everything a week that's um anyway. 560 00:33:02,760 --> 00:33:04,680 Speaker 1: So yeah, you have to we have big decisions to 561 00:33:04,680 --> 00:33:05,920 Speaker 1: make and you have to get down under the cap 562 00:33:05,960 --> 00:33:07,640 Speaker 1: and I'm sure they're having those conversations now, but at 563 00:33:07,680 --> 00:33:09,840 Speaker 1: the same time you start to have to evaluating probably 564 00:33:09,840 --> 00:33:12,600 Speaker 1: the most important part not only for this year, but 565 00:33:12,640 --> 00:33:14,480 Speaker 1: for the future of this franchise is with the draft 566 00:33:14,520 --> 00:33:18,640 Speaker 1: equity that you have, is the evaluation of the college players. 567 00:33:18,680 --> 00:33:21,680 Speaker 1: That and that has already started evaluating tape. But the 568 00:33:21,720 --> 00:33:24,360 Speaker 1: big portion of that is the combine paring down your 569 00:33:24,400 --> 00:33:27,360 Speaker 1: list and really digging deep into the top five or 570 00:33:27,400 --> 00:33:29,680 Speaker 1: seven at each position where you feel like you're gonna 571 00:33:29,720 --> 00:33:31,920 Speaker 1: make a move. So you have a lot going on 572 00:33:32,040 --> 00:33:34,040 Speaker 1: right now. It doesn't feel like it probably to the 573 00:33:34,080 --> 00:33:36,719 Speaker 1: fans and to the people on the exterior because it's 574 00:33:37,000 --> 00:33:39,240 Speaker 1: it's quiet. You're not gonna get a lot of the 575 00:33:39,320 --> 00:33:42,120 Speaker 1: noise until you get to the beginning of next month. 576 00:33:42,200 --> 00:33:44,600 Speaker 1: But there's a ton of things that are going on 577 00:33:44,680 --> 00:33:47,360 Speaker 1: that you have to operate, you know, in parallel paths. 578 00:33:47,640 --> 00:33:51,840 Speaker 1: If you're doub marone and Dave call yeah a lot 579 00:33:52,200 --> 00:33:56,920 Speaker 1: and uh man at some point, you know, how is 580 00:33:57,000 --> 00:34:00,440 Speaker 1: the progress going with I don't know, say them marrying, 581 00:34:00,600 --> 00:34:04,560 Speaker 1: but the the working together of scouting and coaching, which 582 00:34:04,600 --> 00:34:06,760 Speaker 1: has been talked about since the end of the season. 583 00:34:06,760 --> 00:34:09,880 Speaker 1: We've heard about that. Yeah, So they're all getting to 584 00:34:09,920 --> 00:34:11,960 Speaker 1: get they all get along now, they're all getting together 585 00:34:12,040 --> 00:34:16,279 Speaker 1: their hand to hand right now. There's there is a 586 00:34:16,320 --> 00:34:18,279 Speaker 1: lot going on right now. Tony. I mean when you 587 00:34:18,360 --> 00:34:20,239 Speaker 1: when you talk about that, a lot of things that 588 00:34:20,280 --> 00:34:22,759 Speaker 1: are all going on at the same time. I mean, hecky, 589 00:34:22,920 --> 00:34:27,200 Speaker 1: free agency evaluation, the decisions about your own roster, the 590 00:34:27,280 --> 00:34:29,960 Speaker 1: evaluations of your own roster. I think it is probably 591 00:34:29,960 --> 00:34:32,720 Speaker 1: still even somewhat ongoing, just because of the new coaching 592 00:34:32,800 --> 00:34:35,439 Speaker 1: hires that you have. Absolutely you want to get their 593 00:34:35,840 --> 00:34:40,560 Speaker 1: input into where this roster is at. So uh so 594 00:34:40,640 --> 00:34:45,600 Speaker 1: the salary cap decisions, the draft, free agency. Uh and 595 00:34:45,640 --> 00:34:48,080 Speaker 1: then also this time of year is also a busy 596 00:34:48,160 --> 00:34:50,839 Speaker 1: time of year medically for a lot of teams. There's 597 00:34:50,880 --> 00:34:54,239 Speaker 1: a lot of players that have had you know, they've 598 00:34:54,280 --> 00:34:56,440 Speaker 1: sent the car to the shop, they get it tuned up, 599 00:34:56,440 --> 00:34:58,840 Speaker 1: so to speak, to where they've had offseason surgery. So 600 00:34:58,840 --> 00:35:03,080 Speaker 1: you've got players that are participating in rehab and where 601 00:35:03,120 --> 00:35:05,399 Speaker 1: are they at, the evaluation of where they are, where 602 00:35:05,480 --> 00:35:07,879 Speaker 1: they expected to be by the time the season rolls around, 603 00:35:07,880 --> 00:35:09,560 Speaker 1: where they expected to be by the time o t 604 00:35:09,680 --> 00:35:12,040 Speaker 1: as roll around. Are they're going to be available? If 605 00:35:12,040 --> 00:35:14,960 Speaker 1: they're not available, do we need to have maybe a 606 00:35:15,000 --> 00:35:18,200 Speaker 1: discussion about how the chemistry of the makeup of our 607 00:35:18,280 --> 00:35:20,680 Speaker 1: roster might be a little bit heavy because we have 608 00:35:21,040 --> 00:35:23,400 Speaker 1: player X who's not going to be available for O 609 00:35:23,520 --> 00:35:24,960 Speaker 1: T A S. I mean, there's a lot of things 610 00:35:25,000 --> 00:35:28,080 Speaker 1: that are going on with the NFL rosters right now, 611 00:35:28,320 --> 00:35:32,000 Speaker 1: and uh, and it's uh, it's it's an I don't 612 00:35:32,040 --> 00:35:34,160 Speaker 1: want to say it's a never aenning process because at 613 00:35:34,200 --> 00:35:36,400 Speaker 1: some point, you know, you've got to start playing football games, 614 00:35:36,440 --> 00:35:38,839 Speaker 1: and a lot of that stuff goes to the hands 615 00:35:38,840 --> 00:35:41,279 Speaker 1: of those that aren't involved in the coaching aspect of it. 616 00:35:41,320 --> 00:35:43,480 Speaker 1: But yeah, it's a busy time of year. It's in 617 00:35:43,480 --> 00:35:45,120 Speaker 1: a bit and it's a busy time of year that 618 00:35:45,200 --> 00:35:48,799 Speaker 1: people have no clue the amount of hours that are 619 00:35:48,840 --> 00:35:53,320 Speaker 1: being put in right now. Most people think about you 620 00:35:53,400 --> 00:35:58,800 Speaker 1: drinking beer or hanging out, you know, talking at the 621 00:35:58,880 --> 00:36:04,319 Speaker 1: five o'clock Yeah, probably, But Jeff, the bigger thing is 622 00:36:04,360 --> 00:36:09,080 Speaker 1: I mean, it's it's I think it's exasperated for this 623 00:36:09,160 --> 00:36:12,160 Speaker 1: team because you have the cap issues and so you 624 00:36:12,200 --> 00:36:15,360 Speaker 1: have major upgrades that you have to make because I 625 00:36:15,400 --> 00:36:17,160 Speaker 1: think if you look at the roster top to bottom, 626 00:36:17,200 --> 00:36:19,799 Speaker 1: and I know there's debates even in the building of 627 00:36:19,840 --> 00:36:23,000 Speaker 1: where they are in the evolution of how good this 628 00:36:23,120 --> 00:36:27,200 Speaker 1: roster is, you know, and one way or another, but whatever, 629 00:36:27,680 --> 00:36:29,520 Speaker 1: wherever you have it on the spectrum of being a 630 00:36:29,560 --> 00:36:33,319 Speaker 1: good or bad roster, there's still needs upgrades, it still 631 00:36:33,320 --> 00:36:35,480 Speaker 1: needs improvements, and you have to do that in light 632 00:36:35,560 --> 00:36:39,080 Speaker 1: of having no cap space. And so you have to change, 633 00:36:39,160 --> 00:36:41,080 Speaker 1: you have to make moves, you have to restructure deals, 634 00:36:41,120 --> 00:36:44,640 Speaker 1: you have to cut people, and then add back to 635 00:36:44,800 --> 00:36:48,160 Speaker 1: the holes that you've created, plus fill the holes that 636 00:36:48,200 --> 00:36:51,480 Speaker 1: you already had in the roster. And so it's it's 637 00:36:51,480 --> 00:36:54,359 Speaker 1: a lot compared to the Colts who have I think 638 00:36:54,840 --> 00:36:57,960 Speaker 1: you know, seventy million dollars of cap space going in 639 00:36:58,000 --> 00:37:03,239 Speaker 1: to free agency. And so that's the interesting thing and 640 00:37:03,239 --> 00:37:04,719 Speaker 1: one of the things that you know, maybe we can 641 00:37:04,760 --> 00:37:08,840 Speaker 1: talk about next week or the following week, because I 642 00:37:08,920 --> 00:37:11,520 Speaker 1: might be out of town next week. But regardless when 643 00:37:11,520 --> 00:37:15,719 Speaker 1: we talked about it is where we sit as an organization, 644 00:37:16,280 --> 00:37:18,040 Speaker 1: because where you get to start, I always believe is 645 00:37:18,080 --> 00:37:20,799 Speaker 1: in your division. So we're in the NFC South, so 646 00:37:20,840 --> 00:37:26,479 Speaker 1: it's US Texans, Colts, UM and the Titans. And where 647 00:37:26,480 --> 00:37:29,480 Speaker 1: do you sit from a roster standpoint as far as 648 00:37:29,480 --> 00:37:32,560 Speaker 1: being competitive to win the division? And then as you 649 00:37:32,640 --> 00:37:35,040 Speaker 1: kind of segment it down, is like where do you 650 00:37:35,080 --> 00:37:37,719 Speaker 1: sit salary cap wise? Where do you sit at key 651 00:37:37,719 --> 00:37:41,919 Speaker 1: positions and kind of because you're trying to compete because 652 00:37:41,920 --> 00:37:44,480 Speaker 1: the one thing, the one way to guarantee being in 653 00:37:44,520 --> 00:37:46,920 Speaker 1: the tournament with a chance to win the Party Trophy 654 00:37:46,960 --> 00:37:49,400 Speaker 1: is winning your division, and so I think you have 655 00:37:49,480 --> 00:37:53,000 Speaker 1: to start there. And part of that this time of year, 656 00:37:53,239 --> 00:37:55,600 Speaker 1: because you're not on the field, is you know who 657 00:37:56,440 --> 00:37:58,399 Speaker 1: you know? How much room do you have to play 658 00:37:58,440 --> 00:38:00,520 Speaker 1: with to be aggressive, to build your team up to 659 00:38:00,560 --> 00:38:03,000 Speaker 1: improve it. And the only one I know off the 660 00:38:03,000 --> 00:38:04,480 Speaker 1: top of the head is the Colts. And you look 661 00:38:04,480 --> 00:38:06,520 Speaker 1: at the Colts as a young team, pretty talented, finished 662 00:38:06,520 --> 00:38:10,239 Speaker 1: ahead of the Jaguars record wise, and has I think 663 00:38:10,280 --> 00:38:12,839 Speaker 1: seventy or seventy five or sixty eight million, some big 664 00:38:12,920 --> 00:38:16,879 Speaker 1: number of that they have the ability to go make 665 00:38:16,880 --> 00:38:19,239 Speaker 1: some moves and do some different things. And so that's 666 00:38:19,280 --> 00:38:22,080 Speaker 1: where you start saying, Okay, use you strategize, and Jeff, 667 00:38:22,080 --> 00:38:24,160 Speaker 1: this is just going back to your point, how much 668 00:38:24,239 --> 00:38:25,960 Speaker 1: is really going on behind the scenes, which is a 669 00:38:25,960 --> 00:38:29,359 Speaker 1: ton if you're trying to you're trying to build your 670 00:38:29,400 --> 00:38:33,399 Speaker 1: team for this year to win your division, but you're 671 00:38:33,440 --> 00:38:36,839 Speaker 1: also looking ahead for years to come up saying how 672 00:38:36,880 --> 00:38:39,160 Speaker 1: do we continue to build this thing so that we 673 00:38:39,200 --> 00:38:41,160 Speaker 1: are competitive year in a year out with a chance 674 00:38:41,160 --> 00:38:43,680 Speaker 1: to win the division to go to the playoffs. That's 675 00:38:43,719 --> 00:38:47,719 Speaker 1: an ongoing process. That that process. I mean, look, they've 676 00:38:47,719 --> 00:38:51,960 Speaker 1: been talking and trying to get to that point, but 677 00:38:52,040 --> 00:38:55,600 Speaker 1: they haven't been able to reach that and so, uh, 678 00:38:55,800 --> 00:38:58,160 Speaker 1: you need to continue to swing and that The first 679 00:38:58,200 --> 00:39:00,839 Speaker 1: step though, obviously with this roster now, is you've got 680 00:39:00,840 --> 00:39:03,600 Speaker 1: to find a way to get your cap where it 681 00:39:03,640 --> 00:39:07,320 Speaker 1: needs to be. And I think there are some decisions 682 00:39:07,360 --> 00:39:09,000 Speaker 1: I think that are pretty obvious, and I think there 683 00:39:09,040 --> 00:39:11,440 Speaker 1: are some that you can sit there and debate about 684 00:39:11,520 --> 00:39:13,799 Speaker 1: whether you do them or you know, X, Y or Z. 685 00:39:14,800 --> 00:39:17,520 Speaker 1: I think the pretty easy ones I think are Marquis 686 00:39:17,520 --> 00:39:20,560 Speaker 1: sleep and hurt a lot. Marcel Darius is probably the 687 00:39:20,640 --> 00:39:24,880 Speaker 1: number one. I think that's a given right here. What 688 00:39:25,000 --> 00:39:28,359 Speaker 1: is this cat numbers like twenty something millions, twenty two 689 00:39:28,400 --> 00:39:34,239 Speaker 1: million um. If if Marcel Darius's cap number and an 690 00:39:34,239 --> 00:39:38,520 Speaker 1: actual salary or somewhere in the neighborhood of six, you'd 691 00:39:38,520 --> 00:39:42,040 Speaker 1: be like, we're good. But that's about where the value 692 00:39:42,080 --> 00:39:44,080 Speaker 1: that you would put on his level of play maybe 693 00:39:44,080 --> 00:39:48,200 Speaker 1: a little bit more than that. Over twenty there's no chance, Um, 694 00:39:48,400 --> 00:39:51,600 Speaker 1: Marquis sleep and hurt his cat numbers. What around five 695 00:39:51,719 --> 00:39:55,160 Speaker 1: is ballpark four is five is something like that. I mean, 696 00:39:56,000 --> 00:39:58,440 Speaker 1: production hasn't matched the number. It might even be a 697 00:39:58,480 --> 00:40:01,640 Speaker 1: little bit more than that. The linebacker that you signed 698 00:40:01,640 --> 00:40:05,719 Speaker 1: from Green Bay Jake Bryan, Jake Ryan. I mean it's 699 00:40:05,719 --> 00:40:09,120 Speaker 1: not it's not like a huge savings like Marcel Darius. 700 00:40:09,160 --> 00:40:11,680 Speaker 1: But you're talking about a guy that wasn't even healthy 701 00:40:11,680 --> 00:40:14,760 Speaker 1: when he played in the game. But when the games 702 00:40:14,760 --> 00:40:17,200 Speaker 1: that he played he was he was hobbling around on 703 00:40:17,239 --> 00:40:20,680 Speaker 1: the field. He was not. He was not. You could 704 00:40:20,719 --> 00:40:24,120 Speaker 1: tell by watching the film. And then after that, now 705 00:40:24,160 --> 00:40:26,440 Speaker 1: you're starting to get into the category of guys that 706 00:40:26,440 --> 00:40:31,200 Speaker 1: you're gonna have a debate about Norwell, Klais Campbell, uh 707 00:40:31,320 --> 00:40:36,520 Speaker 1: a j Boy. Does their level of play match their 708 00:40:36,640 --> 00:40:40,160 Speaker 1: level of pay Clay's Campbell. You can make the argument 709 00:40:40,239 --> 00:40:43,239 Speaker 1: that that for the not this past year, but the 710 00:40:43,239 --> 00:40:45,920 Speaker 1: two years prior to that, his level of play exceeded. 711 00:40:47,719 --> 00:40:50,359 Speaker 1: Can't pay You don't pay someone based on what they 712 00:40:50,400 --> 00:40:53,560 Speaker 1: did the last three years, the last two years, even 713 00:40:53,640 --> 00:40:56,359 Speaker 1: last year. You pay them based on what you think 714 00:40:56,360 --> 00:40:58,280 Speaker 1: they're gonna be able to do this year. And that's 715 00:40:58,360 --> 00:41:01,320 Speaker 1: the that's the part that is I think with Klais 716 00:41:01,640 --> 00:41:04,440 Speaker 1: becomes very interesting because number one, he's a fan favorite. 717 00:41:05,360 --> 00:41:09,480 Speaker 1: Does his level of play last year warrant a fifteen 718 00:41:09,520 --> 00:41:16,120 Speaker 1: million dollar salary this year? Probably it's a seventeen capital 719 00:41:16,440 --> 00:41:19,040 Speaker 1: seventeen five capital, but fifteen million and real money spent 720 00:41:19,120 --> 00:41:21,799 Speaker 1: a half or whatever it is? I mean, so it 721 00:41:21,840 --> 00:41:25,239 Speaker 1: does his level played last year? Do you expect his 722 00:41:25,360 --> 00:41:27,520 Speaker 1: level of play to be it? Or was his level 723 00:41:27,520 --> 00:41:29,680 Speaker 1: of played last year? Do you expect him to be 724 00:41:29,719 --> 00:41:34,480 Speaker 1: able to Jeff? That's that's a great question. Year. Do 725 00:41:34,480 --> 00:41:37,960 Speaker 1: you think last year the level of play the plays 726 00:41:38,239 --> 00:41:42,640 Speaker 1: Campbell provided was up to the seventeen and a half 727 00:41:42,719 --> 00:41:46,680 Speaker 1: million dollar cap number and fifteen million dollars real cash? 728 00:41:46,719 --> 00:41:48,919 Speaker 1: Because that's where you have to start, because you can't 729 00:41:48,920 --> 00:41:50,799 Speaker 1: figure out this year until you talk about last year. 730 00:41:51,239 --> 00:41:55,839 Speaker 1: Do you think it was there? Me, you're asking me, 731 00:41:56,520 --> 00:41:58,600 Speaker 1: I don't think. I don't. I don't think last year 732 00:41:59,400 --> 00:42:03,200 Speaker 1: that his level of play equal his level of pay 733 00:42:03,360 --> 00:42:07,000 Speaker 1: of pay. Okay, So if that's your belief, then what 734 00:42:07,120 --> 00:42:11,600 Speaker 1: you're saying you would either get him to restructure and 735 00:42:11,600 --> 00:42:14,880 Speaker 1: take less money or cut him, because if it didn't 736 00:42:14,880 --> 00:42:16,640 Speaker 1: happen last year, what would make you think it's going 737 00:42:16,680 --> 00:42:19,120 Speaker 1: to go up this year. Well here, here's and see 738 00:42:19,120 --> 00:42:22,759 Speaker 1: that's that's where I think the argument that it's not 739 00:42:22,840 --> 00:42:25,680 Speaker 1: as clear cut as did he play to the level 740 00:42:25,680 --> 00:42:30,200 Speaker 1: of pay last year? Because if if he didn't, why 741 00:42:30,520 --> 00:42:33,600 Speaker 1: was he hurt? Was he was? Did he play out 742 00:42:33,600 --> 00:42:40,560 Speaker 1: of position? Did uh? Was there other circumstances or factors 743 00:42:40,600 --> 00:42:45,560 Speaker 1: that factored in? Agreed he did play out because he 744 00:42:45,600 --> 00:42:48,160 Speaker 1: was asked to play a lot of free technique part 745 00:42:48,200 --> 00:42:51,640 Speaker 1: of the year, right part of the year. Um, was 746 00:42:51,680 --> 00:42:56,560 Speaker 1: he hurt? Yes, he had, and they hurt. You take 747 00:42:56,600 --> 00:42:59,279 Speaker 1: that into consideration because mostly when you get older, you're 748 00:42:59,280 --> 00:43:02,360 Speaker 1: not gonna get hurt. S you're dining up, Bob. I 749 00:43:02,360 --> 00:43:04,800 Speaker 1: mean here, I think I think a lot of times 750 00:43:04,840 --> 00:43:07,440 Speaker 1: that's easy to assume, but in some cases can be 751 00:43:07,560 --> 00:43:13,880 Speaker 1: very wrong to assume that the older player gets discuss 752 00:43:14,040 --> 00:43:19,319 Speaker 1: the chase. I'm gonna ask you, g M Logman, are 753 00:43:19,360 --> 00:43:21,920 Speaker 1: you bringing plays back at the same price he has 754 00:43:22,680 --> 00:43:24,919 Speaker 1: currently under, which is seventeen and a half million dollar 755 00:43:24,960 --> 00:43:27,359 Speaker 1: cap number fifteen of new cash? Are you bringing him 756 00:43:27,360 --> 00:43:31,160 Speaker 1: back at that? If I have to yes, No, I'm 757 00:43:31,200 --> 00:43:33,839 Speaker 1: asking you a question. Are you bringing him back? He 758 00:43:33,920 --> 00:43:36,920 Speaker 1: says to you, Jeff Loman. Either pay me this or 759 00:43:36,960 --> 00:43:39,399 Speaker 1: cut me. That's your two options. What are you doing? 760 00:43:39,480 --> 00:43:41,440 Speaker 1: I'm bringing him back and then you're gonna try to 761 00:43:41,480 --> 00:43:49,160 Speaker 1: trade him. I'm not gonna trade, okay, so let me JP. 762 00:43:49,320 --> 00:43:54,080 Speaker 1: Just you be quiet for a second. I'm just asking that, right, Okay. 763 00:43:54,440 --> 00:43:59,759 Speaker 1: So now you're keeping clayss. So now you have to 764 00:44:00,040 --> 00:44:08,279 Speaker 1: mind let's say forty million dollars million dollars in other places. Well, 765 00:44:08,280 --> 00:44:10,720 Speaker 1: I got I got almost thirty. Um, I got almost 766 00:44:10,760 --> 00:44:20,000 Speaker 1: thirty with Darius, Jake Ryan, Marquis Lee. Right, okay, but 767 00:44:20,080 --> 00:44:23,399 Speaker 1: I got to find another ten tennish. You probably gonna 768 00:44:23,400 --> 00:44:26,000 Speaker 1: go fund o twelve. Okay, where's your other twelve? That's 769 00:44:26,000 --> 00:44:29,520 Speaker 1: where it gets in. Yes, signed, because you have and 770 00:44:29,600 --> 00:44:34,080 Speaker 1: Gockway to worry about. You have two first rounders in 771 00:44:34,080 --> 00:44:36,359 Speaker 1: the draft class. You have to set aside cap four. 772 00:44:37,200 --> 00:44:41,520 Speaker 1: I'm gonna franchise in Gockway. So okay, So now you've 773 00:44:41,560 --> 00:44:47,759 Speaker 1: taken nineteen million, that's his cap number this year, but 774 00:44:47,920 --> 00:44:53,600 Speaker 1: you have to set aside. So now you have eleven left. 775 00:44:54,520 --> 00:45:01,000 Speaker 1: I'll call it ten left after cutting uh, Darius, Ryan 776 00:45:02,320 --> 00:45:06,000 Speaker 1: and Marquis So are you you're basically saying I'm not 777 00:45:06,040 --> 00:45:08,040 Speaker 1: doing anything in free agency then, because I need that 778 00:45:08,080 --> 00:45:12,000 Speaker 1: ten million to sign draft picks, you probably need more 779 00:45:12,000 --> 00:45:14,560 Speaker 1: than that. So like, who are you cutting Jeff Walkman 780 00:45:14,560 --> 00:45:17,759 Speaker 1: because you've kept You've kept Clayss, which by the way, 781 00:45:17,800 --> 00:45:21,480 Speaker 1: I'm not disagreeing with, but who are you like where 782 00:45:21,600 --> 00:45:25,040 Speaker 1: you finding the money? That's so your only your only 783 00:45:25,120 --> 00:45:30,440 Speaker 1: choice at this point is by Boyer and Norwall. So 784 00:45:30,440 --> 00:45:33,319 Speaker 1: you're kept both of those two starters. And now now 785 00:45:33,360 --> 00:45:34,800 Speaker 1: you have your cap room, but now you need a 786 00:45:34,880 --> 00:45:38,080 Speaker 1: left guard in a number one corner. Was the stronger 787 00:45:38,640 --> 00:45:41,920 Speaker 1: draft of those position groups and all that my factor 788 00:45:44,200 --> 00:45:46,960 Speaker 1: of the corner is really good. They don't necessarily have 789 00:45:47,040 --> 00:45:48,719 Speaker 1: to be filled just by the draft. I mean you 790 00:45:48,760 --> 00:45:51,239 Speaker 1: can you can fill that. And I'm not saying top 791 00:45:51,239 --> 00:45:54,240 Speaker 1: tier free agency, but in that lower tier free agency, 792 00:45:54,880 --> 00:45:56,600 Speaker 1: you know, because look, I mean the reality is is 793 00:45:56,640 --> 00:45:58,319 Speaker 1: that there's gonna be other teams are gonna be letting 794 00:45:58,320 --> 00:46:02,440 Speaker 1: guys go to so uh for a reason. Yeah a 795 00:46:02,480 --> 00:46:04,120 Speaker 1: lot of times. Yeah, I mean, well, look, I mean 796 00:46:04,600 --> 00:46:06,839 Speaker 1: the same thing. I mean, just like your offensive line 797 00:46:06,880 --> 00:46:10,160 Speaker 1: has issues, other people have issues too. So oh yeah, 798 00:46:10,200 --> 00:46:11,640 Speaker 1: I mean that's I don't know, if I don't know, 799 00:46:11,640 --> 00:46:13,640 Speaker 1: if I let the world go. I'm trying to build 800 00:46:13,640 --> 00:46:15,600 Speaker 1: an offensive line and I gotta win this year. If 801 00:46:15,600 --> 00:46:18,880 Speaker 1: I'm the coaching staff, all right, let me ask you this, 802 00:46:18,960 --> 00:46:23,200 Speaker 1: So where do you go? It's an interesting question. I mean, 803 00:46:23,200 --> 00:46:27,040 Speaker 1: it's not it's not an easy answer, you know. You 804 00:46:27,040 --> 00:46:30,400 Speaker 1: know that. That's why when Caldwell was asked about about 805 00:46:30,480 --> 00:46:33,360 Speaker 1: the cap he he felt very confident that it wouldn't 806 00:46:33,400 --> 00:46:37,680 Speaker 1: be it wouldn't be an issue. And I very confident. 807 00:46:38,120 --> 00:46:40,919 Speaker 1: He was very confident. And and I'm and I look, 808 00:46:40,960 --> 00:46:43,960 Speaker 1: we don't know all the particulars of the numbers, and 809 00:46:44,040 --> 00:46:47,440 Speaker 1: maybe if we knew some of that, yeah, we're guessing 810 00:46:47,480 --> 00:46:49,840 Speaker 1: someone some of it. So if we knew the issues 811 00:46:49,920 --> 00:46:53,120 Speaker 1: would maybe we would have a little bit better understanding. 812 00:46:53,160 --> 00:46:58,080 Speaker 1: But I mean, I'm very anxious to see how they 813 00:46:58,120 --> 00:47:00,960 Speaker 1: go about doing this, how they all about doing this 814 00:47:01,040 --> 00:47:05,960 Speaker 1: without creating more holes with a roster that you don't 815 00:47:06,000 --> 00:47:08,880 Speaker 1: want to be able to create home. So I'll say this, Jeff, 816 00:47:09,000 --> 00:47:12,160 Speaker 1: here's my thing with what I would do. Getting rid 817 00:47:12,160 --> 00:47:15,239 Speaker 1: of class Campbell and gock Way would really worry me 818 00:47:15,480 --> 00:47:17,560 Speaker 1: on a defense that was not very good last year, 819 00:47:19,280 --> 00:47:25,040 Speaker 1: and for two reasons than whether the bottom line is 820 00:47:25,200 --> 00:47:27,319 Speaker 1: Clais Campbell is your best player on defense last year 821 00:47:27,320 --> 00:47:28,960 Speaker 1: and he and he had a down year for him 822 00:47:29,239 --> 00:47:31,239 Speaker 1: based on any what did the two years before that? 823 00:47:32,719 --> 00:47:37,960 Speaker 1: Um and he's also one of your veteran pros leaders 824 00:47:39,000 --> 00:47:42,000 Speaker 1: on that side that I think you need. I think 825 00:47:42,000 --> 00:47:44,080 Speaker 1: the danger is you go back to thirteen when they 826 00:47:44,160 --> 00:47:47,240 Speaker 1: let guys like Darryl Smith and just you know, clean 827 00:47:47,320 --> 00:47:48,600 Speaker 1: house on the roster and you have a bunch of 828 00:47:48,600 --> 00:47:52,080 Speaker 1: young guys. It was, it was problematic. So I worry 829 00:47:52,120 --> 00:47:54,920 Speaker 1: about letting Clayss go. And from the sounds of the plays, 830 00:47:54,920 --> 00:47:57,960 Speaker 1: basically said at the Pro Bowl, I'm not playing for 831 00:47:58,080 --> 00:48:01,640 Speaker 1: less than what my contract says. Now I'm you know, 832 00:48:01,760 --> 00:48:04,080 Speaker 1: paraphrasing there, but that's basically what he said. And then 833 00:48:04,080 --> 00:48:08,799 Speaker 1: in gock Way, you have a young player who does 834 00:48:08,840 --> 00:48:14,360 Speaker 1: everything right, hard worker, loves football, maybe doesn't have the 835 00:48:14,400 --> 00:48:17,720 Speaker 1: consistency of impacting the game every play, but has splash 836 00:48:17,800 --> 00:48:21,960 Speaker 1: playability that can change games. And you don't have that 837 00:48:22,000 --> 00:48:25,400 Speaker 1: many of those guys on this team offensively and defensively. 838 00:48:26,040 --> 00:48:28,160 Speaker 1: And do you let one of the guys you drafted go? 839 00:48:29,400 --> 00:48:31,560 Speaker 1: I would franchise him as well, because I don't think 840 00:48:31,560 --> 00:48:33,560 Speaker 1: I want to. I have a hard time thinking I 841 00:48:33,560 --> 00:48:35,960 Speaker 1: want to sign him up for a two million dollar 842 00:48:35,960 --> 00:48:39,720 Speaker 1: a year deal based on two seasons of under double 843 00:48:39,760 --> 00:48:44,560 Speaker 1: digits ax um, But I want him on the team, 844 00:48:44,600 --> 00:48:47,560 Speaker 1: and so that puts you in a quandary. I mes sary, 845 00:48:47,600 --> 00:48:50,600 Speaker 1: can't standpoint of what to do and where do where 846 00:48:50,600 --> 00:48:52,680 Speaker 1: do you create the space? So I think it I'm 847 00:48:52,719 --> 00:48:57,160 Speaker 1: with you. I think it's more difficult than um. It 848 00:48:57,200 --> 00:49:00,360 Speaker 1: comes across when you hear Dave call will speak. But 849 00:49:00,440 --> 00:49:03,600 Speaker 1: maybe he knows something we don't. Let's come back. 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Welcome Back, Jaguars, 913 00:52:56,160 --> 00:52:59,320 Speaker 1: Happy r J P, Shadrick, Jeff Loghum and Tony the 914 00:52:59,440 --> 00:53:03,520 Speaker 1: Sally by the Jowan Taylor was out the community today. 915 00:53:04,400 --> 00:53:06,960 Speaker 1: Um We went over to Andrew Jackson High School and 916 00:53:07,040 --> 00:53:11,120 Speaker 1: visited with some of the kids there and discussed safe 917 00:53:11,360 --> 00:53:15,560 Speaker 1: driving and Joan Taylor's experience. They're one of the troopers 918 00:53:15,640 --> 00:53:18,240 Speaker 1: from the Florida Highway Patrol joined us on stage today, 919 00:53:18,320 --> 00:53:21,600 Speaker 1: and Juwan is doing well. He's off season training as 920 00:53:21,640 --> 00:53:25,880 Speaker 1: well underway and getting stronger and bigger and better for 921 00:53:26,080 --> 00:53:27,799 Speaker 1: next year. In the future, he's gonna be a good one. 922 00:53:27,920 --> 00:53:32,000 Speaker 1: If good one, he's I think he's got the makings 923 00:53:32,160 --> 00:53:35,520 Speaker 1: of of of a perennial Pro Bowl right tackle. I 924 00:53:35,560 --> 00:53:37,359 Speaker 1: mean he's got some things that he needs to work 925 00:53:37,440 --> 00:53:40,680 Speaker 1: on consistency, but I mean he has the framework, the 926 00:53:40,840 --> 00:53:45,280 Speaker 1: base to be that kind of a player right tacklely 927 00:53:45,440 --> 00:53:50,239 Speaker 1: so strong and he gets great movement and uh as 928 00:53:50,320 --> 00:53:52,399 Speaker 1: a as a as a past protector. I think he's 929 00:53:52,440 --> 00:53:53,880 Speaker 1: kind of a natural. Just needs to work on his 930 00:53:53,960 --> 00:53:58,359 Speaker 1: hands a little bit. But he's like when you look 931 00:53:58,400 --> 00:53:59,920 Speaker 1: at Juan, what do you think he has to work 932 00:54:00,000 --> 00:54:02,320 Speaker 1: and to become a great player. His hands need to 933 00:54:02,360 --> 00:54:05,719 Speaker 1: be better, I think first and foremost, I think his 934 00:54:05,880 --> 00:54:08,399 Speaker 1: run game stuff I think is very good. I think 935 00:54:08,480 --> 00:54:10,759 Speaker 1: it can be taken up another notch, but I think 936 00:54:10,800 --> 00:54:13,320 Speaker 1: it's just more. I think the biggest thing with a 937 00:54:13,360 --> 00:54:16,640 Speaker 1: lot of young players is understanding how every week is 938 00:54:16,680 --> 00:54:21,680 Speaker 1: different and preparing for specific individuals, understanding their game and 939 00:54:21,800 --> 00:54:25,040 Speaker 1: not just showing up to play football. Because I mean 940 00:54:25,040 --> 00:54:27,680 Speaker 1: because Tony, you know, and I did the same thing, 941 00:54:28,520 --> 00:54:32,680 Speaker 1: and that the more intricacies that you know about your opponent, 942 00:54:33,040 --> 00:54:36,040 Speaker 1: the more prepared you are to be able to stifle them. 943 00:54:36,640 --> 00:54:38,960 Speaker 1: And and that's one of the big next steps that 944 00:54:39,080 --> 00:54:42,360 Speaker 1: he needs to take. But I mean, he's got the talent. 945 00:54:42,440 --> 00:54:44,200 Speaker 1: I mean, he's got got it. He got he's got 946 00:54:44,239 --> 00:54:46,600 Speaker 1: the tool kids as loud as he got tool kids. 947 00:54:47,480 --> 00:54:51,359 Speaker 1: Let's go around. I think it's yeah, sorry, I think 948 00:54:52,200 --> 00:54:54,800 Speaker 1: I agree. I agree with you, Jeff number one. To me, 949 00:54:55,000 --> 00:54:58,759 Speaker 1: it's less physical with him, and it's more of a 950 00:54:58,880 --> 00:55:01,520 Speaker 1: mental exercise because a great player now what he has 951 00:55:01,560 --> 00:55:04,239 Speaker 1: to do. And and if I get a chance to 952 00:55:04,280 --> 00:55:07,520 Speaker 1: talk with him, I'm gonna share with him is you 953 00:55:07,640 --> 00:55:11,520 Speaker 1: never stop improving as an offensive alignment or any player. 954 00:55:11,600 --> 00:55:15,560 Speaker 1: And the way you improve as an offensive alignment is repetition, repetition, repetition, 955 00:55:16,320 --> 00:55:19,080 Speaker 1: and so like, even though you know how to set 956 00:55:19,440 --> 00:55:22,280 Speaker 1: and you know the footwork, you need to be doing 957 00:55:22,840 --> 00:55:26,239 Speaker 1: hundreds of those sets as much as possible, and you 958 00:55:26,360 --> 00:55:29,799 Speaker 1: need to go from just having one vertical set. Now, 959 00:55:29,960 --> 00:55:32,400 Speaker 1: let me add to my toolbox. I got a you know, 960 00:55:32,719 --> 00:55:34,680 Speaker 1: a jump set. I have a flat set, you know, 961 00:55:34,800 --> 00:55:38,040 Speaker 1: I you know, I can go from I can show flat, vertical, 962 00:55:38,520 --> 00:55:41,120 Speaker 1: I can do different things. So you just rep, rep, rep, rep, 963 00:55:41,280 --> 00:55:43,520 Speaker 1: and then your hand placement is literally just getting on 964 00:55:43,680 --> 00:55:46,400 Speaker 1: bags and and getting guys out there and working with 965 00:55:46,520 --> 00:55:49,520 Speaker 1: guys and working on your your aiming point, your focus 966 00:55:49,719 --> 00:55:52,440 Speaker 1: and one hand punch you know too, hand punch you know, 967 00:55:52,600 --> 00:55:56,160 Speaker 1: punch snatch. I mean, so it's just repetition, repetition. It's 968 00:55:56,200 --> 00:55:59,040 Speaker 1: not like there's no magical thing like I think a 969 00:55:59,080 --> 00:56:01,680 Speaker 1: lot of guys will always look for this magical drill 970 00:56:02,400 --> 00:56:05,560 Speaker 1: or this magical technique that will make me better. To me, 971 00:56:05,680 --> 00:56:08,480 Speaker 1: it's always like, Okay, let me understand how to play 972 00:56:08,560 --> 00:56:11,799 Speaker 1: the game. Let me understand how guys want to rush, 973 00:56:12,360 --> 00:56:14,279 Speaker 1: and there's because there's only so many ways you can 974 00:56:14,280 --> 00:56:16,560 Speaker 1: get to the quarterback. And let me get a game 975 00:56:16,640 --> 00:56:18,960 Speaker 1: plan for every rush and kind of how I think 976 00:56:19,000 --> 00:56:24,000 Speaker 1: about it. And then let me start marrying my technique 977 00:56:24,120 --> 00:56:26,560 Speaker 1: and the different things I have my toolbox to that 978 00:56:27,600 --> 00:56:29,239 Speaker 1: and work on that and rep it and rep it 979 00:56:29,280 --> 00:56:32,000 Speaker 1: and rep it, and then I become so proficient that 980 00:56:32,080 --> 00:56:35,160 Speaker 1: when I get on the field after watching tape all week, 981 00:56:35,320 --> 00:56:37,320 Speaker 1: and then I have my game plan, I understand what 982 00:56:37,400 --> 00:56:39,200 Speaker 1: I want to do, and then I just go out 983 00:56:39,320 --> 00:56:42,480 Speaker 1: and react to what I see and make adjustments as 984 00:56:42,560 --> 00:56:45,240 Speaker 1: I go because I've recked it so much it's second nature. 985 00:56:45,800 --> 00:56:48,799 Speaker 1: Marrying is the word of the show today. By the way, 986 00:56:48,960 --> 00:56:51,520 Speaker 1: let's go around the National Football League quickly. Uh. The 987 00:56:51,680 --> 00:56:54,600 Speaker 1: Chargers have said that Philip Rivers will become a free agents. 988 00:56:54,600 --> 00:56:58,040 Speaker 1: Where does he end up, guys, quickly? I have no idea. 989 00:56:59,440 --> 00:57:06,120 Speaker 1: I'm gonna say he ends up in um Indianapolis. Interesting 990 00:57:06,239 --> 00:57:11,080 Speaker 1: in the division he goes Indianapolis. The Saints have a situation. 991 00:57:11,200 --> 00:57:13,440 Speaker 1: I think I think that. I think the coach draft 992 00:57:13,480 --> 00:57:15,080 Speaker 1: a quarterback in the first round of young guy and 993 00:57:15,120 --> 00:57:18,280 Speaker 1: they get Philip Rivers for a two year stint um 994 00:57:18,440 --> 00:57:21,160 Speaker 1: to be their quarterback. Perfect situation. They have a good 995 00:57:21,200 --> 00:57:23,280 Speaker 1: offensive line, they can protect them, they have a run game, 996 00:57:23,800 --> 00:57:27,080 Speaker 1: and when their skill set is healthy, they're pretty good. 997 00:57:27,320 --> 00:57:30,400 Speaker 1: Taysom Hill the Saints this week, said that he definitely 998 00:57:30,520 --> 00:57:34,960 Speaker 1: views himself as a franchise quarterback. He's only thrown thirteen 999 00:57:35,080 --> 00:57:37,840 Speaker 1: career passes in the NFL. Living in a dream world, 1000 00:57:38,320 --> 00:57:40,320 Speaker 1: he's gonna be. He's gonna be in New Orleans, though. Look, 1001 00:57:40,360 --> 00:57:47,080 Speaker 1: iok and and I view myself as a Calvin Clein model. Yeah. 1002 00:57:47,600 --> 00:57:49,600 Speaker 1: I think that's probably a good analogy, because when you 1003 00:57:49,680 --> 00:57:53,560 Speaker 1: throw him how many passes, you're a far cry from 1004 00:57:53,600 --> 00:57:57,360 Speaker 1: being a franchise quarterbacksome and I am a far cry 1005 00:57:57,440 --> 00:58:00,320 Speaker 1: from a Calvin client model. Y Jamis wentz and was 1006 00:58:00,400 --> 00:58:07,600 Speaker 1: the first thirty Davis Winston was the first thirty thirty 1007 00:58:07,720 --> 00:58:11,440 Speaker 1: quarterback in the NFL touchdowns and interceptions in the season. 1008 00:58:11,480 --> 00:58:16,120 Speaker 1: He's now vision. He had lasic surgery. Is he was 1009 00:58:16,240 --> 00:58:20,400 Speaker 1: what near sighted? Yes? Very near sighted unless unless it 1010 00:58:20,520 --> 00:58:23,000 Speaker 1: fixed a color blind issue. I don't think it matters. 1011 00:58:24,680 --> 00:58:29,280 Speaker 1: And finally, and how about this story from Ohio in 1012 00:58:29,360 --> 00:58:33,280 Speaker 1: the National Football League UM there was a medical board 1013 00:58:33,560 --> 00:58:37,880 Speaker 1: that ruled on Wednesday that being a fan of Cincinnati 1014 00:58:38,080 --> 00:58:41,480 Speaker 1: or Cleveland does not meet the condition requirements to purchase 1015 00:58:41,600 --> 00:58:45,200 Speaker 1: medical marijuana. This is a real deal. There were petitions 1016 00:58:45,320 --> 00:58:48,360 Speaker 1: filed by people in Ohio saying being a Browns and 1017 00:58:48,440 --> 00:58:52,240 Speaker 1: Bengals fans was enough to be able to buy weed. Wow, 1018 00:58:52,840 --> 00:58:57,800 Speaker 1: they ruled it down though. Interesting. Interesting, Tony enjoy the cold. 1019 00:58:59,200 --> 00:59:02,800 Speaker 1: I love it. M sounds like it sounds like it 1020 00:59:02,880 --> 00:59:06,600 Speaker 1: sounds like you can I can lie. Ton't even sally 1021 00:59:06,680 --> 00:59:09,240 Speaker 1: with us Jeff log Even, I'm JP Shaddrick. Thanks our 1022 00:59:09,400 --> 00:59:11,800 Speaker 1: entire Crewe will catch you next time. It's Jaguars Happy 1023 00:59:11,880 --> 00:59:13,760 Speaker 1: Hour on the Jaguars Digital Network.