Speaker 1: My family was very religious, So this kind of stealth
Speaker 1: and astrology and numerology and the planets and just all
Speaker 1: it's just very outside the box. Like if all things
Speaker 1: are based on numbers, if if the universe is like
Speaker 1: has a code to it, which I learned in Cabala,
Speaker 1: Why wouldn't people have code? Can it really be that
Speaker 1: your birthdate and your name has anything to do with
Speaker 1: your life? It's so arbitrary. Hello, Hello, Happy Monday, everyone.
Speaker 1: Welcome to this week's episode of Cheeks and Chill. I'm
Speaker 1: having such a great day, Thank goodness, and I hope
Speaker 1: you guys are too. Today's episode is going to be
Speaker 1: super interesting. It's about numerology, that's right. We're gonna find
Speaker 1: out what numerology is exactly and what it isn't. This
Speaker 1: is checks and Chill, alright, So numerology, this is a
Speaker 1: topic I'm really fascinated by. I've always been fascinated by
Speaker 1: numbers and the meaning behind it. So I'm so excited
Speaker 1: to speak to our guest today, Josh Siegel. He's been
Speaker 1: a numerologist for more than twenty years, so he has
Speaker 1: a lot of experience. He also has worked with celebrities
Speaker 1: and fortune executives, So he knows a thing or two
Speaker 1: about this stuff and I can't wait to learn more. Hi, Josh,
Speaker 1: how are you? Hey? How are you nice to be here?
Speaker 1: Thank you? I'm so happy um that you're here, and
Speaker 1: I'm I'm excited. I'm excited to talk to you. I
Speaker 1: know we have a lot to impact today, but maybe
Speaker 1: we can start with how you got into numerology. Is
Speaker 1: this something friends or family were also into or is
Speaker 1: it just something that interests you? No, they complete opposite. Actually, Oh,
Speaker 1: I was adopted and my parents, my mother who raised me,
Speaker 1: was was from Germany regionally, and she was an intellectual
Speaker 1: and academic, a professor as a matter of fact, in
Speaker 1: a major university. Total skeptic. I mean, this was not
Speaker 1: in her wheelhouse at all. My father was an attorney.
Speaker 1: I grew up in a Jewish family and very old
Speaker 1: school and so this had nothing to do with my
Speaker 1: background at all. But I had just kind of inherent,
Speaker 1: kind of just incessant need to know why things are
Speaker 1: the way they are. And my mom is like, you know,
Speaker 1: very sort of fact based and science based, and but
Speaker 1: I just felt like there was more to life than
Speaker 1: when I was seeing so because I grew up in
Speaker 1: a Jewish family. I started studying more of the mystical
Speaker 1: aspects of Judaism, so which was called Kabbala. Kabala is
Speaker 1: a very sort of philosophical, mystical system of how things
Speaker 1: are the way they are. It's a very powerful system
Speaker 1: spiritual and you know, there's different writings over you know,
Speaker 1: over two thousand years. But I started sending that and
Speaker 1: I started realizing that a lot of their teachings were
Speaker 1: connected to numbers. I thought, well, that's kind of well.
Speaker 1: It made it a lot of sense to me because
Speaker 1: it was sort of like I came from this mathematical background, right,
Speaker 1: meaning that my parents were intellectuals and they're into like science, right.
Speaker 1: But it was signed like numbers connected to spirituality. And
Speaker 1: I was like, wow, this this works for me. It's
Speaker 1: like best of both worlds. So that's how I got
Speaker 1: started in this. And then it was only a matter
Speaker 1: of time before I found a book one day at
Speaker 1: a at a spiritual bookstore here in Los Angeles. It's
Speaker 1: no longer there, but it was sort of this famous
Speaker 1: hub of the community, and and it was like, if
Speaker 1: all things are based on numbers, if if the universe
Speaker 1: is like has a code to it, which I learned
Speaker 1: in Cabala. Why wouldn't people have a code. Why wouldn't
Speaker 1: we have like a code to who we are? And so,
Speaker 1: I mean I thought about it, like, well, we have DNA.
Speaker 1: We have a mathematical code that says what our eye
Speaker 1: color and hair color is going to be, you know,
Speaker 1: in our DNA stran Why wouldn't there be a mathematical
Speaker 1: code or like our personality or how our lives go,
Speaker 1: you know. And so I read this book and I
Speaker 1: was like, God, can it really be that your birth
Speaker 1: date and your name has anything to do with your life?
Speaker 1: It's so arbitrary. So remember I grew up in a
Speaker 1: skeptic environment, so I didn't take this at face value.
Speaker 1: It spoke to me like it like interested me. Kind
Speaker 1: of made sense to me, but I had to verify this.
Speaker 1: So I I spent literally years reading every book, every
Speaker 1: different system, every different opinion on it. Like if I traveled,
Speaker 1: I'd go to like old libraries and try to find
Speaker 1: books that are out of print that no one knows about.
Speaker 1: So you really dug in, Oh, because I'm a totally
Speaker 1: obsessive mind, I love that. Well, thank goodness, because now
Speaker 1: I get to speak to you, and it seems like
Speaker 1: you know everything and anything that I need to know
Speaker 1: about it. I've been into numerology, but I don't obviously
Speaker 1: know everything. I feel that I should know or I
Speaker 1: could know, should I say? Um? And of course me too.
Speaker 1: I came my family is very religious, so this kind
Speaker 1: of stuff astrology and numerology and the plan it's and
Speaker 1: just all it's just very outside the box. It's outside
Speaker 1: the box exactly. So I've always been a little different. Um,
Speaker 1: So this is why I'm like, well, I I truly
Speaker 1: do believe you know the importance of signing certain papers
Speaker 1: and documents on on certain days, you know, like the
Speaker 1: power that that has or you know. So anyways, this
Speaker 1: is why we're talking to you. But if you can
Speaker 1: tell myself and my listeners what is numerology? I know
Speaker 1: that there are a lot of a lot of misunderstanding
Speaker 1: around it. So you tell us, Josh, what is numerology? Well,
Speaker 1: simple definition of it without going into its origins. All
Speaker 1: things have a vibration to it, and we're talking right now.
Speaker 1: And you can measure that in a computer. You can
Speaker 1: record that and it will show a sound wave and
Speaker 1: and that's a numeracle sound how many hurts? So all
Speaker 1: things vibrate to its own energy. And the idea is
Speaker 1: that people, human beings vibrate to their own energy, just
Speaker 1: like everything else in this universe. The concept is that
Speaker 1: your birthdate and your name, every letter equals a number. Okay,
Speaker 1: so A is one, B is two. It's a chronology,
Speaker 1: right that you could calculate a series of numbers to
Speaker 1: break down the code the numeros the vibration of your
Speaker 1: code as to who you are and why you're here.
Speaker 1: And it's that numbers have a deeper meaning to them.
Speaker 1: It's not just for accounting with your accountant. That they
Speaker 1: have qualities to them. And so then numbers that relate
Speaker 1: to you, specifically your name and your birthday, show what
Speaker 1: your qualities are. What that you know, Like everyone has
Speaker 1: a unique thumb print, right, it's like your numerical thumb print,
Speaker 1: and it tells your storyline. My mother was such a
Speaker 1: skeptic that she thought skeptics weren't skeptical enough, you know.
Speaker 1: I mean, if you could improve things empirically through science,
Speaker 1: like you can get the hell out of the house.
Speaker 1: So so I understand that mentality better than anybody as
Speaker 1: a matter of fact, my mom. It's so funny. My
Speaker 1: mom's last name was Einstein. She was a German Jew,
Speaker 1: and I we never knew whether she was actually related
Speaker 1: to Albert Einstein until much later. Um, and I actually
Speaker 1: someone did a family tree and did the research and
Speaker 1: connected the dots. Now she was distantly related. But my
Speaker 1: mom literally was a descendant of Albert Einstein, flat out
Speaker 1: wow and uh. And she kept her maiden name so
Speaker 1: she taught it U. C. L A. So my mother
Speaker 1: literally was known as Professor Einstein. That's cool, Oh my goodness.
Speaker 1: I mean, I didn't go to college. I wish I
Speaker 1: would have. But the thing is is, what I've seen
Speaker 1: is that people that are very book smart, they're they're
Speaker 1: a little bit more narrow minded in the sense of
Speaker 1: I just I'm going based on what I have read,
Speaker 1: what I have learned in school, and they don't really
Speaker 1: want to hear anything else. So maybe that's what you're saying.
Speaker 1: Your mom was that way. Yes, my mom was an
Speaker 1: expert in whatever she studied. But you know, academia is
Speaker 1: only like and this is what I'm talking about science
Speaker 1: versus spiritual science, because the scientific community looks at what
Speaker 1: I do probably and thinks it's complete pseudoscience, unproven, it's arbitrary,
Speaker 1: and trust me, I understand that because I grew up
Speaker 1: with a massive skeptic as a mother, right. But but
Speaker 1: it's it isn't a new age concept. Someone didn't come
Speaker 1: up with this in the last hundred years. What people
Speaker 1: need to understand is that using numbers in the philosophical
Speaker 1: mystical way dates back literally thousands of years. You know,
Speaker 1: I'm writing a book on it. I did research I
Speaker 1: can date back to the Egyptians, the Babylonians, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean, the Indians where they connected numbers to
Speaker 1: their gods and but it was all about nature and astrology.
Speaker 1: And you know, before astronomy, there was astrology, mathematics and
Speaker 1: the divine and how things work in this world were connected.
Speaker 1: Back then, spirituality and science were together, and then at
Speaker 1: some point they separated them. Because do you think that
Speaker 1: it was even more so back then? Like even I
Speaker 1: don't know, I feel because it's a scary thing for
Speaker 1: us to tap into that that maybe some folks and
Speaker 1: I don't want to say who, but certain people don't
Speaker 1: want that force because it's it's just too strong. So
Speaker 1: it's better to just separate them both. Well, listen, I
Speaker 1: have a I have, I have opinions on that. And
Speaker 1: first of all, I grew up under you under the
Speaker 1: Judeo Christian background I got. My parents were Jews. The
Speaker 1: Jews were the chosen people, as a Christian says, as
Speaker 1: I should say, all the early Church fathers, most of
Speaker 1: them were Jews. I believe in God, I believe in
Speaker 1: morality and ethics. And so the funny thing about this
Speaker 1: or the irony is anyone studies the Bible. We have
Speaker 1: the book of numbers. We if you, if you read
Speaker 1: the Revelations of John, I mean, it's like a numerological piece.
Speaker 1: I mean it's numbers everywhere, twelve, this, seven, that nine,
Speaker 1: miss you know, I mean, all through the Bible, the
Speaker 1: Old Testament and the New Testament is filled with numerology.
Speaker 1: Jesus has given thirty pieces of silver. Enoch lived three
Speaker 1: hundred and sixty five years, but we know that three
Speaker 1: sixty five is the days in the year. You see,
Speaker 1: a lot of this stuff that's in the Bible is
Speaker 1: connected also to astrological and spiritual things. So there's different
Speaker 1: levels of it. So when I do numerology, I'm not
Speaker 1: doing some sort of weird, strange things some weird people
Speaker 1: came up with. I'm talking about knowledge. It's been around
Speaker 1: for thousands of years. I think numerology proves the existence
Speaker 1: of God. Yeah, I don't think it's I don't think
Speaker 1: it's anti God. I think it proves God. I think
Speaker 1: that shows that all this. We'll talk about Einstein earlier.
Speaker 1: Einstein said something to the effect that all this couldn't
Speaker 1: be here for random, all the things that I'm seeing
Speaker 1: when he studied things in physics, right, you know, he
Speaker 1: came up with the theory of relativity and all this
Speaker 1: kind of stuff. But he said that there was an
Speaker 1: intelligent mind behind the universe. Yes, And he said, people
Speaker 1: who say that I don't believe in God, they don't
Speaker 1: know me. Basically. You know, I've read all these quotes
Speaker 1: from him, and by the way, I checked my sources
Speaker 1: to make sure they were proper sources and not fake sources.
Speaker 1: But he said these things, And the reason being is
Speaker 1: it's that he realized, Hey, this is this isn't just
Speaker 1: some coincidence. Something's behind all this. Yes, I think it's
Speaker 1: all connected. And I'm so glad that I'm so to
Speaker 1: you because there are probably people out there that don't
Speaker 1: believe this. But see, look, I respect everyone's opinions, everyone's beliefs,
Speaker 1: but I truly I'm on the same page with you.
Speaker 1: I think it is all definitely connected. And I have
Speaker 1: seen numbers forever in the Bible. Oh my god, it's
Speaker 1: it's literally everywhere. It's undeniable. I do believe in God.
Speaker 1: I do believe in being a good person. I do
Speaker 1: believe in that BECs. I do believe in the Christian
Speaker 1: you do back around. I am a product of that,
Speaker 1: and what I do is not inconsistent with with that
Speaker 1: at all. And I respect religion. I respect people who
Speaker 1: believe in God, and I'm down with it. But I'm
Speaker 1: telling you that when you sit down with these numbers,
Speaker 1: I'm telling you that it's a language that was set
Speaker 1: up for us to learn more about things. I just
Speaker 1: think at some point, probably because of control, probably because
Speaker 1: as of people not wanting people to have access to this,
Speaker 1: because they wanted to control the information. There you go,
Speaker 1: that's the word control. Yeah, looking for But that's not God,
Speaker 1: that's not God, that's not that's not true true religion.
Speaker 1: That's that's political. Yes, Josh, you're my guy. Man, Oh
Speaker 1: my goodness, this is so crazy. It's still so good
Speaker 1: to know that I'm not crazy, because I've been told before,
Speaker 1: you know, like oh that sounds a little too far
Speaker 1: fetched or I don't know about that, or you know
Speaker 1: what I mean. So this is this makes me feel good.
Speaker 1: And Josh, tell me, how can we use numbers today
Speaker 1: to understand our lives? So I use it in a
Speaker 1: very modern context, okay, um, I use it in a
Speaker 1: in a semi psychological way. Okay, it depends on how
Speaker 1: long your name is. And you know, I use a
Speaker 1: very sophisticated version of numerology and that you know, I've
Speaker 1: estimated that I've done over twenty thousand sessions. Okay, you
Speaker 1: know I'm actually fifty two going on fifth d three.
Speaker 1: Actually been doing well. I got my all my hair. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's a great thing. So I've actually been doing this
Speaker 1: technically for twenty five years, right, and I just stopped
Speaker 1: counting after twenty because I don't want to date myself,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like I don't want to
Speaker 1: people thinking like I was hanging out with mc hammer
Speaker 1: or something like this guy. So I've been doing this
Speaker 1: a very long time and people need to know that
Speaker 1: I have a very discriminating mind. And it took years
Speaker 1: of testing, and I did trial and error, and I
Speaker 1: basically were like case studies. I would test a formula,
Speaker 1: I would add up a number of certain way. I'd
Speaker 1: ask them what happened in their life. I tried and
Speaker 1: I started taking notes. It was painstaking research. So when
Speaker 1: I talk about things, I'm not just coming up with
Speaker 1: this stuff. You know. It's a mathematical formula. Yeah, it's
Speaker 1: just what it gets interesting is if you have five
Speaker 1: six numbers in the chart, I have to combine those
Speaker 1: numbers to make the unique You tell me my number,
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh my god, it takes a minute. Right,
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, is that me? That is geez, Louise.
Speaker 1: I wish you guys could see this piece of paper.
Speaker 1: There is like, yeah, there's a lot going on on
Speaker 1: that paper. Okay, Like it's like a beautiful mind, you know.
Speaker 1: So it gets complicated because no one's a one dimensional person, right,
Speaker 1: Everyone has different aspects to them. Right. If you look
Speaker 1: at my chart, you'll notice I have some fours in there,
Speaker 1: which makes me very analytical and practical. And then you'll
Speaker 1: see elevens, which makes me a little bit, you know,
Speaker 1: alternative thinking, right, and then there's a little bit of
Speaker 1: the healer in there, and then you you kind of
Speaker 1: put it together. I used sort of an analytical system
Speaker 1: that's alternative and maybe spiritual or unique in its way
Speaker 1: that helps people. It's like you have to you have
Speaker 1: to put it all together. And what I'm reading here
Speaker 1: is your higher purpose. So let me get a little
Speaker 1: bit more into this with people understand what it means.
Speaker 1: When you get a session, it can take. I mean
Speaker 1: I tell people I could spend three hours in an
Speaker 1: analysis of your numbers. Very easy? Three hours? Can you?
Speaker 1: And yeah, now we would both hang ourselves. But that's
Speaker 1: how much information I can get, right. And so there
Speaker 1: are three numbers that describe your characteristics. There's like a
Speaker 1: natural ability number. These are talents and abilities that you
Speaker 1: have that come come easy for you. And then your's
Speaker 1: your inner drive number, what motivates you. It's kind of
Speaker 1: like a driving force that behind your actions because this
Speaker 1: is something important to It's kind of how your mind thinks,
Speaker 1: what drives you. And then there's your your personality number,
Speaker 1: which will exhibit certain characteris is that characteristics that people
Speaker 1: see okay or how how you interact with people, how
Speaker 1: they interact with you. Okay, now, now those you can't
Speaker 1: do a reading without those three numbers, right. However, there's
Speaker 1: either two or three lesson numbers, okay, and in your case,
Speaker 1: you have two. One is in the life path, what's
Speaker 1: one is called the life path number derives solely from
Speaker 1: your birthday. And then one I one I call the
Speaker 1: ultimate goal number, which not many numerologists are aware of
Speaker 1: or understanding. I've never heard of that when I was
Speaker 1: about to tell you that, I've only heard of path
Speaker 1: number and your destiny number. Right, So the destiny numbers
Speaker 1: is what I call your natural ability number, because it
Speaker 1: has nothing to do with your destiny. You know, I
Speaker 1: had to spend all these years with all these different
Speaker 1: authors and different systems out there and go through it
Speaker 1: and say what worked and didn't work. And I had
Speaker 1: to throw out what didn't work, Yeah, because I wasn't
Speaker 1: gonna take it at phase about you know, I'm still
Speaker 1: you know, my adopted mom's gone. She passed in and
Speaker 1: ninety three years old. She never full I think towards
Speaker 1: the end of her life she started going, well, I
Speaker 1: don't know what the hell he's doing but he's passionate
Speaker 1: about it. I think she saw me on Diane Sawyer
Speaker 1: the News Hour once and that kind of gave me
Speaker 1: some credibility. And she's like, you know, Diane Sawyer is
Speaker 1: a credible news hour. But then you became clear. Yeah,
Speaker 1: She's like, how did you get on Diane Sawyer? You
Speaker 1: know with your voodoo? You know? So yeah. I was like, mom,
Speaker 1: you know this this is real. So um. But anyways,
Speaker 1: the ultimate goal number is something I discovered. Uh, there's
Speaker 1: only a few people knew about that, and one of
Speaker 1: them was, well, it came. It actually came from a
Speaker 1: woman named Jean who wrote books in the sort of
Speaker 1: the eighties really nineties, and she was an a five
Speaker 1: year old woman who lived in Salem, Oregon, and the
Speaker 1: phone number in the back of the book, and I
Speaker 1: called her and she would stay on the phone for
Speaker 1: me for hours because I had all these questions, and
Speaker 1: she became kind of my quasi teacher. Oh you know,
Speaker 1: I never met the woman. I never knew what you
Speaker 1: look like or anything. I just called her and she
Speaker 1: would stay on the phone for hours with me. Wow.
Speaker 1: So you guys had a very deep connection. We we did.
Speaker 1: We did, and she she turned me onto the ultimate goal.
Speaker 1: But my research showed and this is the most powerful
Speaker 1: thing I've learned. The ultimate goal number shows you what
Speaker 1: your deepest lessons are. That you'll grow up in a family,
Speaker 1: in an environment that is a direct connection between your
Speaker 1: parents and you, which is kind of very kind of
Speaker 1: dovetails into psychology today. You know how your pal mommy
Speaker 1: and Daddy screwed you up right, and even and the
Speaker 1: and the best of families, how they you know, how
Speaker 1: they're unresolved wounds downloaded into you right, and how you
Speaker 1: were destined to go through certain events, that we're going
Speaker 1: to shape your wounds and challenges, and that later on
Speaker 1: in life you were going to repeat these wounds and
Speaker 1: challenges by attracting people into your life to play them
Speaker 1: out like a Shakespearean drama. Now, what I discovered is,
Speaker 1: and again this is not a theory anymore. I've had
Speaker 1: over cases. Right, what I discovered is your deepest wound
Speaker 1: now in your life path as well. You gotta look
Speaker 1: at the life path and the ultimate life path. You
Speaker 1: learned a little bit sooner, but it's still a lesson.
Speaker 1: You know, you've got to combine the two. But what
Speaker 1: I found particularly with the ultimate goal, is that once
Speaker 1: you start to wake up, because here's something else that's
Speaker 1: kind of deep. At this stage in my life and
Speaker 1: working with as many people as I have from all
Speaker 1: walks of life, this I realized that I think God
Speaker 1: sends us down here to learn, you know, some things,
Speaker 1: and it's kind of like a setup. It's kind of
Speaker 1: like a boot camp for souls, you know, like we're
Speaker 1: just here like in a like a soul and a
Speaker 1: body on a spinning planet, and all this ship's going
Speaker 1: at us and we got the crazy uncle and the
Speaker 1: mom and the dad left, and then we're going up
Speaker 1: and we're trying to figure this out. And then you
Speaker 1: try to find your way, and then you have a
Speaker 1: relationship with this person you think you find love, but
Speaker 1: this person is you know, throwing you for a loop.
Speaker 1: And then you go you know what I mean, And
Speaker 1: then this person becomes an alcoholic or this person runs
Speaker 1: away and then or does you know, I gotta make
Speaker 1: as much money as I can only find out it's
Speaker 1: not that's not what life is. And you go through
Speaker 1: these series. I mean, I've heard, don't you understand how
Speaker 1: many stories I've heard? I feel like I feel like
Speaker 1: you like you just like I don't know, Like we
Speaker 1: talked before this conversation, and you know everything about me,
Speaker 1: like you literally named almost, if not everything that I
Speaker 1: have had to deal with. Well, well, that's that's because
Speaker 1: I got your child. Oh you got my charts. A
Speaker 1: whole lot of numbers there, guys. Yeah, so yes, what
Speaker 1: I just talked about part of it is there. We'll
Speaker 1: talk about your eight in your ultimate goal and what
Speaker 1: you know. But what happens is when you start to
Speaker 1: wake up out of it, the same number that represented
Speaker 1: your deepest issue, how you got set up, you know,
Speaker 1: because you have to learn something down here. It becomes
Speaker 1: your higher purpose. Okay, see that. That's I honestly truly
Speaker 1: believe that. Yes, I I believe in reincarnation. I feel
Speaker 1: that I've been here many times in different forms. But
Speaker 1: I do have a question before we move on to
Speaker 1: my reading. I see a lot of what I call
Speaker 1: angel numbers. I see a lot of eleven, eleven, I
Speaker 1: see two, two, I see three three all the time,
Speaker 1: I've been seeing twelve, twelve a lot for the past
Speaker 1: like two weeks. Are those What do you think about that? All? Right,
Speaker 1: so you said you've been seeing all right, all right,
Speaker 1: So so let's talk about the first thing you want
Speaker 1: to do is see is there any correlation to the
Speaker 1: chart in the six numbers or five numbers in your case,
Speaker 1: are any of these numbers present? Okay? So you know
Speaker 1: I've I've already calculated your chart. Yes, I haven't written anything,
Speaker 1: because you're watching me. Okay, you'll notice that you have
Speaker 1: a right here eleven. You see how I circled the eleven?
Speaker 1: Hold on, yes, yes, got it? Okay, Yes, see circled eleven. Okay,
Speaker 1: So eleven is your personality number. In other words, one
Speaker 1: of your main numbers isn't eleven. So if you see eleven,
Speaker 1: it's it's part of your chart number one. Okay, here's
Speaker 1: another thing I didn't get to. I didn't even tell
Speaker 1: you about this yet. How I figure out where you
Speaker 1: are in your path to learning your lessons? Right as
Speaker 1: I go back in time and using something called numerological cycles.
Speaker 1: So you know, there's predictive elements in astrology, right, and
Speaker 1: they use the planets to see where you know what's
Speaker 1: going on? You know, you know when you're born. They
Speaker 1: just take a snapshot of your chart, but the planets
Speaker 1: are are still moving, right, so that's how they how
Speaker 1: the planets, how they when they move around hit planets
Speaker 1: in your in your chart when you were born with
Speaker 1: that's how they predict certain things right at the time
Speaker 1: of your how A line. Yeah, And then so now
Speaker 1: in numerology, it turns out that there's I wouldn't call
Speaker 1: a prediction like psychic stuff. I don't work with that
Speaker 1: kind of stuff. In fact, I asked questions about certain
Speaker 1: time frames because I'm not sure exactly what happened. I
Speaker 1: have a feeling, I have a an idea of what
Speaker 1: may have happened. Because of this, every year we come
Speaker 1: into a different number that's separate from the our numbers
Speaker 1: were born with. There's temporary numbers, their cycles, and they
Speaker 1: work in cycles of nine years, just like nine months
Speaker 1: to a pregnancy. And so every nine years you finish
Speaker 1: a nine year cycle and then you start over again
Speaker 1: another nine year cycle. And so depending on what your
Speaker 1: birthday it is, you're gonna be one through nine for
Speaker 1: whatever year you're talking about, Right, So it turns out
Speaker 1: that you're in eleven year, which is a two if
Speaker 1: you had one, and one breaks down to it too,
Speaker 1: So you're you're you're getting this reading understand something. Eleven
Speaker 1: is your is one of your numbers, and you're in
Speaker 1: an eleven year and you're telling me saying eleven. Now
Speaker 1: what comes after eleven is twelve, and you just that's
Speaker 1: your next you're coming up and you just told me
Speaker 1: recently you've been seeing twelve twelve. Now this is yeah, okay,
Speaker 1: so you'll see that it says two, and it says
Speaker 1: and then it says twelve three. It just means I'm
Speaker 1: adding it down. Okay. So you're telling me in your
Speaker 1: eleven year that you see eleven elevens in your chart.
Speaker 1: You were born with eleven, and you're saying just recently
Speaker 1: you've been seeing twelve. You're literally going into twelve as
Speaker 1: a cycle next year. So I'm connecting. Yeah, I mean
Speaker 1: you're on point. You're on point. So these numbers have
Speaker 1: meanings and they're there. There are thousands of years old,
Speaker 1: but you know they're being translated into modern psychological tools. Right.
Speaker 1: This is beautiful and yeah it is and it ain't
Speaker 1: new age. This ship is old ages, ancient history, y'all. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: this idea is like, oh that's a new age. I'm
Speaker 1: like what wait a minute. The Babylonian era is the
Speaker 1: Egyptians that used early Hebrews and all this used I'm
Speaker 1: telling you guys way back and you know, like they're
Speaker 1: on the Pyramids. I mean, there are so many things
Speaker 1: that show like numbers and how they counted and how
Speaker 1: like this was used way back when. So yes, I
Speaker 1: don't want to hear about this this age stuff. Oh man,
Speaker 1: this this is so old. It's you know, you can't
Speaker 1: even believe it, you know what I mean. So what
Speaker 1: we're gonna do is we're gonna go I'm gonna go
Speaker 1: back in time. So you already know something. You already
Speaker 1: know that eight is the you know, to be exacted
Speaker 1: to seventeen. It we use double digits when you're using
Speaker 1: more detailed demerology. Okay, so we called a seventeen eight
Speaker 1: one plus seven is eight and eight two plus six
Speaker 1: and eight. The double digites tells what kind of an
Speaker 1: eight it is. But you're an eight making simple ultimate goal.
Speaker 1: So hey, I told you that cycles working cycles of
Speaker 1: nine years. I'm going to go back to the last
Speaker 1: times you're in an eight year because I know you're
Speaker 1: an eight. I'm gonna see I'm gonna ask you what happened, right,
Speaker 1: and then I know the next year after that is
Speaker 1: a nine, which means you're ending a nine year cycle.
Speaker 1: So I'm gonna ask it because we know there's going
Speaker 1: to be completions, endings. You know, there might be a shift, right,
Speaker 1: you may transition out of one thing into another, you
Speaker 1: might release some things, and then the following year after
Speaker 1: that you're gonna be back in one again and there
Speaker 1: could be some new starts and new beginnings, right, you know.
Speaker 1: So I'm going to be looking at three year cycles
Speaker 1: for you eight nine, and it turns out that your
Speaker 1: life path is a one right the other remember there's
Speaker 1: another lesson, right, So I gotta I'm gonna I'm just
Speaker 1: gonna say eight nine one, eight nine one. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. And now I'm going to tell you
Speaker 1: what this stuff means. First, I'm gonna do analysis. If
Speaker 1: you're trying to try to keep as brief as possible
Speaker 1: with my big mouth, okay, and all right, now you
Speaker 1: can you can you can let me have it, all right,
Speaker 1: you let me have it. Okay. Now here's the thing.
Speaker 1: I want to say one thing really quick that's really important.
Speaker 1: All my sessions unless they're very known people, right, you know,
Speaker 1: of course I know who they are because everybody knows
Speaker 1: who they are. But the majority of my sessions off
Speaker 1: for people I have literally no idea who they are,
Speaker 1: no clue. Same here, you didn't know who I was, right, Josh,
Speaker 1: So I mean this is this is but I do
Speaker 1: know you know that you were a singer that you
Speaker 1: know Grammy. I know that your Latin music. You know.
Speaker 1: I know that much because I was told that you
Speaker 1: know so, but I had to know who I do
Speaker 1: you you know are? I mean I did talk to
Speaker 1: a couple of Latin friends are like, oh, ship, I
Speaker 1: know who she is, so they know who you are,
Speaker 1: but I don't know who the hell you are. And
Speaker 1: so but I like, Josh, yeah, I love it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's better this way that you didn't know who I was.
Speaker 1: That now I'm like, Okay, this is legit, and I
Speaker 1: know it's legit because I really do believe in numbers
Speaker 1: in all of this. I really do, right, So, so
Speaker 1: what I'll say is, you know, you know, it's kind
Speaker 1: of starting off here that I said, well, you know,
Speaker 1: if I were to turn around and say, well, your
Speaker 1: chart to suggested you would be a singer and have
Speaker 1: you know, fame from that in the Latin market, you'd
Speaker 1: be like, please, are you kidding me? You know to
Speaker 1: be kidding? Yeah, so so so I'm just telling you
Speaker 1: the things I'm going to say. Right. First of all,
Speaker 1: I wouldn't have pegged you necessarily for a musician. Now
Speaker 1: it doesn't a singer's not communications, yes, but not necessarily
Speaker 1: that because as much as you've had great success in
Speaker 1: that department, it suggested that you could use that as
Speaker 1: a vehicle. It's not your higher purpose. Josh, oh my gosh, dude,
Speaker 1: You're blowing my fucking mind right now. I'm gonna tell
Speaker 1: you why because I know this, I don't know, but
Speaker 1: don't tell me anything. Okay, I'm not gonna tell anything. Okay,
Speaker 1: So I do want to ask you something. Do you
Speaker 1: feel that, yes, we are born at a certain time
Speaker 1: and the planet's aligned, and there's nothing that we can
Speaker 1: do about that. It is what it is. But I
Speaker 1: I believe that depending on the choices that we make
Speaker 1: on a daily basis, um, we can change our destiny
Speaker 1: or if we are aligned, right, I mean, okay, the
Speaker 1: whole point. Listen, let's get this straight. Tell me these
Speaker 1: numbers or code. You're here to break the code. Okay,
Speaker 1: there are some aspects of life that are going to
Speaker 1: be a part of your karma or your destiny. And
Speaker 1: you say, well, how can you prove that? And I go,
Speaker 1: I don't have to prove a damn thing. All I
Speaker 1: gotta look at is what happened to you when you
Speaker 1: were born? Where were you born, who were your parents,
Speaker 1: what was your socio economic background, and how what were
Speaker 1: your challenges? Because right there you had no control. You're
Speaker 1: just a baby. You're a child. So whatever your karma is,
Speaker 1: whatever your destiny is. You know, you know, my dad
Speaker 1: was an attorney. It's like, I deal with facts. It's
Speaker 1: so funny. I'm not I'm not a like this out
Speaker 1: of you know, new a g person where I'm up
Speaker 1: in the stratosphere and like talking silliness. I'm dealing with
Speaker 1: real ship. You know. I'm fact based. That's what happened
Speaker 1: to you. Now you can say, but that's you know,
Speaker 1: who can say why that I came in under that?
Speaker 1: And I go, that's right, who can say? Because we
Speaker 1: can only know factually that's what you experience. That right
Speaker 1: there you had no control of. But when you grow up,
Speaker 1: when you become an adult, when you start to realize
Speaker 1: you can make your own decisions when you start to
Speaker 1: realize your patterns, Like whatever happened to you made you
Speaker 1: feel something about yourself that wasn't true. It's literally conditioning.
Speaker 1: The numbers just tell us what the conditioning was, and
Speaker 1: it says, here's the pathway to break that conditioning and
Speaker 1: create your own future. I don't I'm all about free will,
Speaker 1: funk all that other stuff. The people that come to
Speaker 1: me are about changing their life for the better, not
Speaker 1: about saying, oh, this is this is what I'm born
Speaker 1: with and this is the way it is. Yeah, because see,
Speaker 1: I mean, okay, here's another question. Sorry, I'm like, you know,
Speaker 1: bombarding you with questions. But it all just sort of
Speaker 1: just doubts and things that I think about, and sometimes
Speaker 1: I don't speak about it out loud because I feel
Speaker 1: like it's going to just be you know, I'm not
Speaker 1: gonna be undertood. But anyways, okay, So, yes, we were
Speaker 1: born a certain day, and then people say you're born
Speaker 1: on a certain day and you're going to die on
Speaker 1: a certain day, and everything in between is what it is,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. Like, so that's why people
Speaker 1: I feel are like, you know, and I believe, Yes,
Speaker 1: you were born on a certain day, and I feel
Speaker 1: like depending on the choices is just is that you
Speaker 1: make how you live your life karma. Then it determines Okay,
Speaker 1: does your death come sooner or later? Or am I tripping?
Speaker 1: You got it? Yeah? No, you're smart. Look, I don't
Speaker 1: want to overstate because first of all, I want you
Speaker 1: to know that there are limitations of what I can do.
Speaker 1: I know what those limitations are. I'm not an infallible
Speaker 1: computer where every word out of my mouth is perfect,
Speaker 1: and you know, and so on and so forth. But
Speaker 1: there is enough confirmation I can gather to prove I
Speaker 1: believe that there is a system going on here. Look,
Speaker 1: you're here to learn and to grow and evolve as
Speaker 1: a soul. And yes, I believe in in reincarnation only
Speaker 1: because to me, it's the most reasonable approach to this.
Speaker 1: To me, it's the most logical thing, you know, because
Speaker 1: I don't think we can get it all done in
Speaker 1: one lifetime, you know, I know some people don't. Some
Speaker 1: people may say, well I don't. I don't necessarily believe
Speaker 1: in that, and that's okay, because we don't know for certain.
Speaker 1: It's just a belief, right, you know, I can't. I
Speaker 1: can't prove it either way. But but it's a logical
Speaker 1: belief because I'm looking at people's lives and what we
Speaker 1: have to learn, like, we're not going to get this
Speaker 1: all done, you know, it's just an experience. The important
Speaker 1: point is people change, grow and evolve. You're born with challenges,
Speaker 1: but you can play that hand if you work on yourself,
Speaker 1: if you take responsibility for your life, the numbers morph
Speaker 1: metamorphosized into the higher levels of the numbers instead of
Speaker 1: the lower unconscious where you're playing it out and you
Speaker 1: don't even know why. You don't know why you're attracting
Speaker 1: that because your program is going on. Once you break
Speaker 1: the program, you break them. You know what it is.
Speaker 1: It's a matrix you're living in kind of a matrix.
Speaker 1: I truly believe that, and I know and this is
Speaker 1: why I believe in reincarnation, because there are certain things
Speaker 1: that just come to me so easily, and things that
Speaker 1: I'm like, how do I know this? Like it's just
Speaker 1: it comes to me. And I know that. I also
Speaker 1: know that I'm hardheaded and that there are things that
Speaker 1: I didn't learn my past lives that I'm learning now
Speaker 1: that I'm like, I want to break generational curses. I
Speaker 1: want to be better and I do my best every
Speaker 1: single because I'm not trying to come back and do
Speaker 1: the same ship over and I mean, I gotta learn
Speaker 1: my damn lessons, you know. So that's why I truly
Speaker 1: believe it. It's something that I'm like, I'm an old soul,
Speaker 1: like I just know it because I know, as you
Speaker 1: guys know, listeners, I always end all of my podcasts
Speaker 1: with a motivational Monday quote, and I think I have
Speaker 1: the perfect one for us today, So let me go
Speaker 1: ahead and read it to you, guys. The quote for
Speaker 1: the day is the two most important days in life
Speaker 1: are the day you were born and the day you
Speaker 1: find out why. You guys, the day you were born
Speaker 1: and the day you find out why. I think it
Speaker 1: goes all with what we've talked about today. And right,
Speaker 1: that's a good one. Right you think you like that one? Okay? Awesome? Um?
Speaker 1: And Josh, I don't know if you want to share
Speaker 1: your social media or a website where people can find you. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so I mean the websites, you know, Josh code, you know,
Speaker 1: just because this is a mathematical code, you know, And
Speaker 1: and the dude Josh is doing it. So so Josh
Speaker 1: Code you know j S H C O D E
Speaker 1: dot com. Um uh, My instagram is at Numerology Josh
Speaker 1: at Numerology, Josh and so, and I post some things,
Speaker 1: you know, I do interviews and articles and things like that,
Speaker 1: answer questions from time to time and I love it.
Speaker 1: Post picture myself when I was twenty and I had
Speaker 1: long hair and it was a month myself. You gotta
Speaker 1: follow you right now, so you got picture when I
Speaker 1: was twenty. You gotta see it. Okay, So at Numerology
Speaker 1: Josh right on Instagram okay perfect. And his website, you guys,
Speaker 1: is Josh code dot com. Josh, thank you again, sending
Speaker 1: you a big, big hug, and I'm gonna be talking
Speaker 1: to you again. So it's been a pleasure. I loved it.
Speaker 1: I loved it. You're you're you're a special soul and
Speaker 1: I and I enjoyed working with you and I connected
Speaker 1: to you. I liked it same here. Honestly, I feel
Speaker 1: very connected to you, Josh. So thank you so much,
Speaker 1: you guys. Which as you go, you guys know, I
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