1 00:00:05,200 --> 00:00:07,760 Speaker 1: Hey, this is Annie and Samantha and welcome to stuff 2 00:00:07,760 --> 00:00:18,800 Speaker 1: I've never told your production of I Heart Radio. So 3 00:00:18,840 --> 00:00:22,520 Speaker 1: we are continuing on with our celebrating a Native American 4 00:00:22,560 --> 00:00:25,480 Speaker 1: Heritage Month, which is November. For those of you who 5 00:00:25,480 --> 00:00:27,720 Speaker 1: may be listening at a completely different time, you're like, 6 00:00:27,760 --> 00:00:30,800 Speaker 1: what and we wanted to do a quick our review 7 00:00:30,960 --> 00:00:34,519 Speaker 1: and a watch review on Crow the Legend, which we 8 00:00:34,560 --> 00:00:37,519 Speaker 1: mentioned when we talked about Sarah Eagle Heart, who was 9 00:00:37,560 --> 00:00:39,920 Speaker 1: one of the main consultants for the movie with the 10 00:00:40,000 --> 00:00:44,040 Speaker 1: Native Americans in Philanthropy, along with Randy Edmonds, who is 11 00:00:44,080 --> 00:00:47,519 Speaker 1: an elder of the Kiowa Kado tribe and founder of 12 00:00:47,720 --> 00:00:50,680 Speaker 1: National Urban Indian Council UH. And by the way, he's 13 00:00:50,680 --> 00:00:52,960 Speaker 1: also the narrator for the animation. If you can do 14 00:00:53,040 --> 00:00:56,320 Speaker 1: get a chance to watch, and y'all, uh it's a 15 00:00:56,400 --> 00:00:59,280 Speaker 1: beautiful animation and it is the telling of a classic 16 00:00:59,360 --> 00:01:02,720 Speaker 1: Native America I can tell of the Crow and the Fire, 17 00:01:03,280 --> 00:01:05,759 Speaker 1: which is I believe the name of the actual story 18 00:01:06,319 --> 00:01:11,000 Speaker 1: and as a lesson in selflessness and sacrifice. The film, 19 00:01:11,240 --> 00:01:14,840 Speaker 1: if you're interested in watching it is actually available on 20 00:01:14,880 --> 00:01:16,560 Speaker 1: YouTube right now, so if you would like to go 21 00:01:16,680 --> 00:01:19,520 Speaker 1: and watch it, maybe with your kids, beautiful. If you've 22 00:01:19,560 --> 00:01:23,240 Speaker 1: got an Oculus VR set, it actually is and was 23 00:01:23,319 --> 00:01:26,000 Speaker 1: created for VR. So I actually got to watch this 24 00:01:26,080 --> 00:01:27,600 Speaker 1: last night and we'll talk about it a little bit, 25 00:01:28,040 --> 00:01:30,840 Speaker 1: and yeah, it's a really interesting experience. If you have 26 00:01:30,920 --> 00:01:33,319 Speaker 1: a chance to do it that way, you should for sure. 27 00:01:33,800 --> 00:01:35,440 Speaker 1: And if you would like to watch it before we 28 00:01:35,440 --> 00:01:37,319 Speaker 1: get into it, because we're gonna talk all about it, 29 00:01:38,720 --> 00:01:41,200 Speaker 1: you may want to pause. Now go watch for yourself. 30 00:01:41,200 --> 00:01:44,319 Speaker 1: It's about eighteen minutes long, so not really long, but 31 00:01:44,480 --> 00:01:47,720 Speaker 1: it's really beautiful to watch, so pause and then come 32 00:01:47,760 --> 00:01:51,760 Speaker 1: back to us. Yes, yes, it's it's absolutely lovely. The 33 00:01:51,800 --> 00:01:55,440 Speaker 1: film has a star stetdcast featuring John Legend as Crow, 34 00:01:55,840 --> 00:01:59,200 Speaker 1: who also wrote a song specifically for the film, Constance 35 00:01:59,280 --> 00:02:02,960 Speaker 1: Woo as the Skunk, Diego Luna as the Moth, Lisa 36 00:02:03,040 --> 00:02:06,920 Speaker 1: Coshy as the Owl, Tie Sheridan as the Turtle, Oprah 37 00:02:06,960 --> 00:02:09,880 Speaker 1: as the one who creates everything by thinking, and of 38 00:02:09,919 --> 00:02:13,640 Speaker 1: course Sarah eagle Heart voicing Luna um as we discussed 39 00:02:13,680 --> 00:02:16,280 Speaker 1: in our Women Around the World episode about her. And 40 00:02:16,360 --> 00:02:20,880 Speaker 1: it is directed by Eric Darnell through Bao Bab Studios. 41 00:02:21,800 --> 00:02:24,280 Speaker 1: The story begins with a beautiful song of the Crow 42 00:02:24,840 --> 00:02:29,000 Speaker 1: who we see as this really colorful luminescent bird, really 43 00:02:29,040 --> 00:02:32,160 Speaker 1: popular and well liked. As he prepares for an upcoming 44 00:02:32,160 --> 00:02:35,200 Speaker 1: performance at the pond, we meet the others, Skunk, who 45 00:02:35,200 --> 00:02:39,760 Speaker 1: has a bit of a crush on Crow and Moth. 46 00:02:40,560 --> 00:02:43,880 Speaker 1: Later we see that winter has hit this idyllic forest 47 00:02:43,960 --> 00:02:46,720 Speaker 1: and they are not at all prepared. As they try 48 00:02:46,720 --> 00:02:49,440 Speaker 1: to figure out how to survive the cold, they talk Crow, 49 00:02:50,000 --> 00:02:52,280 Speaker 1: after a bit of shaming, to go and talk with 50 00:02:52,320 --> 00:02:54,960 Speaker 1: the one who creates everything by thinking, who lives beyond 51 00:02:55,120 --> 00:02:57,960 Speaker 1: the moon and the sun. Right, So the interaction is 52 00:02:58,000 --> 00:03:00,720 Speaker 1: really fun. And again, if you're sing this in VR, 53 00:03:00,800 --> 00:03:03,040 Speaker 1: the forest lights up and you can walk around and 54 00:03:03,040 --> 00:03:06,120 Speaker 1: it's like you're right there. It's pretty interesting. So, after 55 00:03:06,320 --> 00:03:09,840 Speaker 1: finally being convinced, Crow makes his way past the moon, 56 00:03:10,320 --> 00:03:14,200 Speaker 1: the sun, the stars, and the endless space to where 57 00:03:14,240 --> 00:03:18,120 Speaker 1: the one who creates everything by thinking is and apparently 58 00:03:18,360 --> 00:03:22,120 Speaker 1: it's in a small glass container with a coffee couch 59 00:03:22,440 --> 00:03:24,359 Speaker 1: or a chair. Who was asleep, I mean, I think 60 00:03:24,400 --> 00:03:30,960 Speaker 1: that's this marshmall is a treadmill. They wake up and 61 00:03:30,960 --> 00:03:33,120 Speaker 1: it's like I need to walk it off, and they 62 00:03:33,160 --> 00:03:36,240 Speaker 1: pop up on the treadmill, pop up like a washing 63 00:03:36,280 --> 00:03:41,760 Speaker 1: machine fantastic. Yes, Oprah is amazing in it. So after 64 00:03:42,000 --> 00:03:45,040 Speaker 1: his long colorful journey, and I say colorful because the 65 00:03:45,440 --> 00:03:49,000 Speaker 1: viewing and the color and animation is gorgeous, we see 66 00:03:49,160 --> 00:03:51,920 Speaker 1: I'm going to reference this character now as the one. 67 00:03:52,680 --> 00:03:55,440 Speaker 1: Maybe that's the spricful over with the one and they 68 00:03:55,440 --> 00:03:58,240 Speaker 1: talk about what to do as Crow requests for help, 69 00:03:58,760 --> 00:04:01,880 Speaker 1: and though the One can't as they say, I think 70 00:04:01,960 --> 00:04:05,160 Speaker 1: what was sunk, they do give the gift of fire, 71 00:04:05,400 --> 00:04:09,720 Speaker 1: and after receiving this gift, the Crow starts his journey back. 72 00:04:10,200 --> 00:04:12,960 Speaker 1: But as Crow is getting the gift from the One, 73 00:04:13,240 --> 00:04:17,520 Speaker 1: Moth attempts to go and find Crow. Oh mo. But 74 00:04:17,560 --> 00:04:20,479 Speaker 1: then we have the sun, which is too much for 75 00:04:20,560 --> 00:04:23,360 Speaker 1: the moth to resist, though the Sun tries to get 76 00:04:23,400 --> 00:04:27,320 Speaker 1: him to turn around. Yeah, and just before moth the 77 00:04:27,400 --> 00:04:32,720 Speaker 1: moth is engulfed by the sun, Crow rescues moth. Unfortunately, 78 00:04:32,800 --> 00:04:35,839 Speaker 1: this puts out the fire during that rescue, so in 79 00:04:35,880 --> 00:04:38,680 Speaker 1: a moment of sacrifice, Crow dives into the sun and 80 00:04:38,680 --> 00:04:43,039 Speaker 1: then we see the warmth and swring returned to the forest. Yes, 81 00:04:43,320 --> 00:04:45,440 Speaker 1: and as the rest of the creatures are enjoying the 82 00:04:45,480 --> 00:04:49,800 Speaker 1: sun again, Crow comes around, now coughing and he no 83 00:04:49,839 --> 00:04:53,200 Speaker 1: longer has his colorful feathers. He's now covered with black 84 00:04:53,240 --> 00:04:57,160 Speaker 1: feathers after flying into the sun, and though he seems 85 00:04:57,160 --> 00:04:59,960 Speaker 1: dejected and sad, we see that his sacrifice has saved 86 00:05:00,240 --> 00:05:02,760 Speaker 1: the earth and he has given a luminescent glue and 87 00:05:02,800 --> 00:05:06,440 Speaker 1: continues to sing with a little more raspy voice, but 88 00:05:06,480 --> 00:05:09,320 Speaker 1: it's still a beautiful song. And Skunk and him have 89 00:05:09,440 --> 00:05:13,839 Speaker 1: a moment where he's like, I like your smell. It's earthy, 90 00:05:14,000 --> 00:05:21,720 Speaker 1: and she's like, I like your new voice, its earthy. 91 00:05:22,040 --> 00:05:26,080 Speaker 1: And that being the tale of how we got fire, 92 00:05:26,440 --> 00:05:42,800 Speaker 1: that's how it ends. So the way the story goes, 93 00:05:43,040 --> 00:05:46,320 Speaker 1: it goes from the fact that comes from different tribes 94 00:05:46,480 --> 00:05:48,240 Speaker 1: and and kind of there was a little debate of 95 00:05:48,320 --> 00:05:51,760 Speaker 1: which tribe it came from, but it was as we 96 00:05:51,800 --> 00:05:55,640 Speaker 1: talked about something very important to Sarah Eagle Hard and 97 00:05:55,680 --> 00:05:58,960 Speaker 1: I'm sure Randy Edmonds as well, and making sure that 98 00:05:59,000 --> 00:06:03,200 Speaker 1: the story was told by the voices of the native 99 00:06:03,240 --> 00:06:06,240 Speaker 1: indigenous community, and they did, and it was a really 100 00:06:06,240 --> 00:06:08,520 Speaker 1: beautiful thing to see, as well as the fact that 101 00:06:08,560 --> 00:06:11,440 Speaker 1: the director, who really loved the story was like trying 102 00:06:11,440 --> 00:06:14,479 Speaker 1: to figure out how to best present it. Knew from 103 00:06:14,560 --> 00:06:18,760 Speaker 1: jump that he needed to consult the Native American communities 104 00:06:18,800 --> 00:06:22,600 Speaker 1: and that's what he did, which I did. Yes, kudos um, 105 00:06:22,600 --> 00:06:25,920 Speaker 1: And I think not only do the actors and those 106 00:06:25,960 --> 00:06:28,760 Speaker 1: who were part of the production talk about how important 107 00:06:28,760 --> 00:06:31,520 Speaker 1: it was, so do the people who from the Native 108 00:06:31,560 --> 00:06:34,640 Speaker 1: American community. They talked about how important it was for 109 00:06:34,680 --> 00:06:36,560 Speaker 1: them to be a part of this UM and we 110 00:06:36,640 --> 00:06:40,320 Speaker 1: talked about the fact that Sarah Eaglehart actually won an 111 00:06:40,320 --> 00:06:43,160 Speaker 1: award h an Emmy for it. And that's not the 112 00:06:43,200 --> 00:06:46,320 Speaker 1: only awards that they won, uh. They won several others 113 00:06:46,360 --> 00:06:49,960 Speaker 1: including they won the Any Award, which for the best 114 00:06:50,200 --> 00:06:53,200 Speaker 1: Virtual Reality Production. And again Annie, I think you said 115 00:06:53,240 --> 00:06:58,320 Speaker 1: you have gotten it ready to go on your set. Yes, really. 116 00:06:58,920 --> 00:07:01,400 Speaker 1: And the audio was interesting too because the way they 117 00:07:01,440 --> 00:07:04,920 Speaker 1: do it within the headsets like it sounds like, uh, 118 00:07:05,080 --> 00:07:10,120 Speaker 1: the one who creates everything is actually inside the glass 119 00:07:10,520 --> 00:07:13,840 Speaker 1: and it's very like pingy like as if she's in 120 00:07:13,880 --> 00:07:16,760 Speaker 1: the glass. So it's super cool. And the again, the 121 00:07:16,840 --> 00:07:20,080 Speaker 1: colors are so beautiful. It's kind of mesmerizing. I love 122 00:07:20,120 --> 00:07:23,800 Speaker 1: anything space related anyway, but it's so mes remising. But 123 00:07:24,040 --> 00:07:27,000 Speaker 1: they did get an award, not surprising. Uh, they want 124 00:07:27,480 --> 00:07:31,760 Speaker 1: several I think four Daytime Emmy Awards as well as 125 00:07:31,800 --> 00:07:34,920 Speaker 1: being nominated for two others. Uh. They won some Kids 126 00:07:34,920 --> 00:07:38,640 Speaker 1: Screen Awards, They won the rain Dance Film Festival, they 127 00:07:38,680 --> 00:07:41,240 Speaker 1: won the Webby Awards. We still have won the web 128 00:07:42,920 --> 00:07:46,320 Speaker 1: But yeah, all of those things, and it's a gorgeous production. 129 00:07:46,640 --> 00:07:49,400 Speaker 1: And I think it's in a testament as to what 130 00:07:49,440 --> 00:07:51,320 Speaker 1: they were trying to do and making sure they are 131 00:07:51,600 --> 00:07:55,760 Speaker 1: respectful of the culture and the storytelling. Um as we 132 00:07:55,800 --> 00:07:59,600 Speaker 1: talked about how that is really really important because again, 133 00:08:01,000 --> 00:08:03,720 Speaker 1: I know I harp on it a lot, but the 134 00:08:03,760 --> 00:08:06,120 Speaker 1: fact that there's so much a rature when it comes 135 00:08:06,160 --> 00:08:08,600 Speaker 1: to Indigenous voices and when it comes to the Black 136 00:08:08,640 --> 00:08:11,520 Speaker 1: community that we we need to be really careful and 137 00:08:11,720 --> 00:08:15,280 Speaker 1: try to make amends for that. And I think we're 138 00:08:15,320 --> 00:08:17,720 Speaker 1: coming somewhat into it. But Annie, what did you think 139 00:08:17,760 --> 00:08:21,000 Speaker 1: about the movie or the animation rather? Oh, I thought 140 00:08:21,080 --> 00:08:25,760 Speaker 1: it was really beautiful. Um I am someone who actually 141 00:08:26,800 --> 00:08:29,640 Speaker 1: actually I don't like surprise anybody, but I love stories 142 00:08:29,640 --> 00:08:34,720 Speaker 1: like this. I love these kind of folklore legends almost 143 00:08:34,760 --> 00:08:39,720 Speaker 1: of how something came to be. And I just thought 144 00:08:39,760 --> 00:08:44,120 Speaker 1: it was so lovely and delightful in the animation, and 145 00:08:44,160 --> 00:08:46,440 Speaker 1: I can't so I did watch it, just be clear, 146 00:08:46,480 --> 00:08:48,200 Speaker 1: but I did. I haven't watched it in VR yet, 147 00:08:48,240 --> 00:08:51,240 Speaker 1: I have it ready because I do want to do it. 148 00:08:51,679 --> 00:08:54,280 Speaker 1: I think it will be really lovely. But yeah, I 149 00:08:54,320 --> 00:08:57,400 Speaker 1: thought that the acting was great. I thought that they 150 00:08:57,440 --> 00:09:01,320 Speaker 1: accomplished a lot in eighteen minutes right where you've got 151 00:09:01,320 --> 00:09:07,320 Speaker 1: to really concrete like arc of these characters. And I 152 00:09:07,400 --> 00:09:10,360 Speaker 1: really loved their coach journey from being this kind of 153 00:09:10,400 --> 00:09:14,959 Speaker 1: like self centered, very beautiful, very lovely voice, but kind 154 00:09:14,960 --> 00:09:19,680 Speaker 1: of self centered creature and then going on this journey 155 00:09:19,800 --> 00:09:22,640 Speaker 1: and like seemed sad, and seeing the mood and seeing 156 00:09:23,200 --> 00:09:27,280 Speaker 1: you know, the one who thinks everything and then coming 157 00:09:27,320 --> 00:09:32,439 Speaker 1: back and feeling kind of low about his new appearance. Um, 158 00:09:32,520 --> 00:09:36,559 Speaker 1: and the black feathers and the raspier voice, then't getting 159 00:09:36,559 --> 00:09:39,480 Speaker 1: this pep talk from Skunk, and then the one who 160 00:09:39,480 --> 00:09:45,080 Speaker 1: thinks everything is like no, I've got a dory looking 161 00:09:45,200 --> 00:09:49,240 Speaker 1: for you as well. Um. Yeah, I just thought it 162 00:09:49,280 --> 00:09:52,720 Speaker 1: was really beautiful. And it's one of those things where like, 163 00:09:53,559 --> 00:09:56,760 Speaker 1: as you're watching it, everything just felt so exciting and pretty, 164 00:09:56,880 --> 00:10:01,160 Speaker 1: like it just felt so like alive almost. So I 165 00:10:01,160 --> 00:10:02,920 Speaker 1: can't wait for you to watch it in VR so 166 00:10:02,960 --> 00:10:04,600 Speaker 1: you can come in and tell me what you think. 167 00:10:04,600 --> 00:10:08,920 Speaker 1: About it because one advice do a swivel chair so 168 00:10:08,960 --> 00:10:11,240 Speaker 1: that you can see everywhere. So because if you look 169 00:10:11,280 --> 00:10:14,320 Speaker 1: behind you during these little adventures, you'll see like the 170 00:10:14,320 --> 00:10:16,960 Speaker 1: remnants of whatever is behind you. So I think at 171 00:10:17,000 --> 00:10:20,760 Speaker 1: one point in the scene there as a constellation of 172 00:10:21,240 --> 00:10:24,640 Speaker 1: Crow as he's flying past to get to the one 173 00:10:24,920 --> 00:10:28,000 Speaker 1: who creates everything just by thinking. And if you look 174 00:10:28,040 --> 00:10:30,199 Speaker 1: behind you, you see like the remnants of it as 175 00:10:30,200 --> 00:10:33,320 Speaker 1: you're passing it, and it glows beautifully. You see all 176 00:10:33,320 --> 00:10:36,560 Speaker 1: of the flying star shooting stars. I guess uh in 177 00:10:36,600 --> 00:10:40,320 Speaker 1: the atmosphere the weird rocks that was. That was funny 178 00:10:40,320 --> 00:10:42,720 Speaker 1: because you're going through all the asteroids to get to 179 00:10:42,800 --> 00:10:45,760 Speaker 1: it and they're singing. But when you turn around there's 180 00:10:45,800 --> 00:10:50,360 Speaker 1: facing you still singing. So just why I um, But 181 00:10:50,520 --> 00:10:53,920 Speaker 1: it's fantastic. Again, the audio they did was a great job. 182 00:10:54,240 --> 00:10:56,440 Speaker 1: And this is a newer thing I know, um with 183 00:10:56,559 --> 00:11:00,280 Speaker 1: the VR, but this was specifically made for VR for 184 00:11:00,360 --> 00:11:02,120 Speaker 1: you to have that. But again they allowed it to 185 00:11:02,160 --> 00:11:05,920 Speaker 1: be on YouTube free free, So if you want to 186 00:11:06,120 --> 00:11:09,480 Speaker 1: have just a beautiful animation with lovely storytelling, you really 187 00:11:09,520 --> 00:11:13,400 Speaker 1: should go and click on to this one. Again, it's 188 00:11:13,480 --> 00:11:18,199 Speaker 1: Crow the Legend, not the crow. Yes, different thing, two 189 00:11:18,240 --> 00:11:20,600 Speaker 1: different things. And yeah, I hope that we are able 190 00:11:20,640 --> 00:11:24,880 Speaker 1: to discover more and more storytelling like this where actually 191 00:11:25,280 --> 00:11:28,000 Speaker 1: gets all of the kudos and the accolades that it 192 00:11:28,040 --> 00:11:31,120 Speaker 1: deserves and then it does get star studded treatment like 193 00:11:31,320 --> 00:11:35,520 Speaker 1: with inclusive voices of the indigenous community. I wanted to 194 00:11:35,559 --> 00:11:37,839 Speaker 1: continue to be this way and this was about the 195 00:11:38,080 --> 00:11:40,600 Speaker 1: like several million dollars I want to say eighteen million. 196 00:11:40,679 --> 00:11:43,360 Speaker 1: I can't remember um for the production of it, but 197 00:11:43,440 --> 00:11:47,000 Speaker 1: it deserves that, Like I want to know that that's 198 00:11:47,040 --> 00:11:48,720 Speaker 1: money will spent. And I think we need to be 199 00:11:48,760 --> 00:11:53,960 Speaker 1: able to see continue to highlighting of grand treatment for 200 00:11:54,080 --> 00:11:56,560 Speaker 1: these legends that should have been around for so long 201 00:11:56,800 --> 00:11:59,600 Speaker 1: and that should be credited to uh the Indigenous people 202 00:12:00,000 --> 00:12:03,680 Speaker 1: who bring out such beautiful storytelling and kind of originators 203 00:12:03,720 --> 00:12:08,720 Speaker 1: to the storytelling in itself. So yeah, yes, And as always, listeners, 204 00:12:08,720 --> 00:12:12,360 Speaker 1: if you have any suggestions of stories we should highlight, people, 205 00:12:12,400 --> 00:12:15,959 Speaker 1: we should highlight anything we should highlight. We would love 206 00:12:16,000 --> 00:12:18,480 Speaker 1: to hear from you. Our email of Steffie your mom 207 00:12:18,480 --> 00:12:20,440 Speaker 1: Stuff at iHeart media dot com. 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