WEBVTT - Cowboys Break: Together Again 0:00:07.480 --> 0:00:10.080 The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 0:00:10.080 --> 0:00:21.759 and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. Let go. Are you 0:00:21.800 --> 0:00:25.919 ready for a Break? Yes? Are you ready for a break? Absolutely? 0:00:26.040 --> 0:00:30.280 Ready for a break? Yeah, and so much for that. 0:00:30.480 --> 0:00:35.640 It's time for the Break on Dallas Cowboys dot Com 0:00:36.400 --> 0:00:41.959 with Nick Eatman, David Hellman, and bar Garcia and Derek Eagleton. 0:00:43.400 --> 0:00:47.240 It is Wednesday, February twenty fourth, two twenty one, season sixteen, 0:00:47.280 --> 0:00:50.880 Episode number ninety eight, and welcome to a very special 0:00:50.960 --> 0:00:53.840 latest edition of The Break, Part that You Buy Geico. 0:00:53.880 --> 0:00:56.200 We're live from SWBC Mortgage Studios at the Star. And 0:00:56.200 --> 0:00:58.800 when I say we're alive from the SWBC Mortgage studios 0:00:58.840 --> 0:01:01.520 at the Start, I mean we are live from the 0:01:01.720 --> 0:01:05.360 s WBC Mortgage studios at the Star. I got Nick, 0:01:05.480 --> 0:01:08.200 I got Dave, I got Amber. We are all in 0:01:08.319 --> 0:01:11.600 studio for the first time in a year, or maybe 0:01:11.640 --> 0:01:13.319 a little more than a year, right close, at the 0:01:13.360 --> 0:01:16.080 first time we've done a show. No, first time we've 0:01:16.080 --> 0:01:18.639 been in the studio together. Yeah, in a year, because 0:01:18.680 --> 0:01:21.160 I want to say around this time last year, I 0:01:21.240 --> 0:01:23.560 know I was at a meeting in Pittsburgh. You guys 0:01:23.560 --> 0:01:26.319 were at Combine, right it's been a year, so we 0:01:26.319 --> 0:01:28.240 didn't do anything. We came back, so it's been a year. 0:01:28.280 --> 0:01:30.800 It's been a full year. This different, it feels good. 0:01:31.080 --> 0:01:32.840 I would say it's like a hockey game, but I've 0:01:32.880 --> 0:01:35.000 never actually sat down on the glass at a hockey camp, 0:01:35.000 --> 0:01:37.440 so I wouldn't know. That's a better analogy though, because 0:01:37.440 --> 0:01:38.959 I was gonna say, I feel like I'm in the 0:01:39.000 --> 0:01:42.120 reptile house at the Zoo. But this that's weird too. 0:01:43.000 --> 0:01:45.039 I've been a lot of time. I'm getting my bearings 0:01:45.400 --> 0:01:47.960 like a zoo. Yeah, who doesn't interesting things. I can't 0:01:48.000 --> 0:01:50.040 reach out to hit Nick like you know, he says 0:01:50.080 --> 0:01:52.640 something crazy. I just can't like hit him. Rip shot 0:01:52.720 --> 0:01:54.960 of the last show we did you did? No, I didn't. 0:01:55.040 --> 0:01:57.280 I couldn't get past the glass around and hit me 0:01:57.440 --> 0:02:00.120 in the break. Oh I did come around if I 0:02:00.240 --> 0:02:02.280 hit you, But I do still owe you. See the 0:02:02.320 --> 0:02:04.520 funny Like we're sitting here. We think it's so cool 0:02:04.560 --> 0:02:06.680 that we're all in our room together, but anybody listening 0:02:06.680 --> 0:02:08.480 to this is like, oh my god, they can just 0:02:08.560 --> 0:02:11.120 talk and not trip all over each other and lose 0:02:11.160 --> 0:02:13.720 WiFi and all other faith happen. You know what I 0:02:13.720 --> 0:02:15.320 think we're gonna do. I think we're gonna put together 0:02:15.320 --> 0:02:18.160 a compilation of all of Day's moments when he froze 0:02:18.160 --> 0:02:20.520 on camera. I think that'd be actually a pretty good 0:02:20.600 --> 0:02:22.560 video because that seemed to happen every show for the 0:02:22.639 --> 0:02:24.880 last year. Or Dave's talking and he gets right to 0:02:24.919 --> 0:02:26.760 the best part of his point and then it's like, 0:02:27.280 --> 0:02:29.520 I just see, it's just Dave stuck there. I would 0:02:29.560 --> 0:02:31.720 like to think that I got better as the season 0:02:31.720 --> 0:02:34.120 went along, but I can't prove that. Maybe like an 0:02:34.160 --> 0:02:36.959 hour and a little bit video along when it would 0:02:36.960 --> 0:02:40.040 be long. How you doing, Amber good? You're just sitting 0:02:40.040 --> 0:02:41.840 over there looking at us. I think we're all just 0:02:41.880 --> 0:02:43.600 so excited to be and you're like, let's get this 0:02:43.639 --> 0:02:47.079 thing over with. Yeah, you guys are way more excited. Definitely, 0:02:47.080 --> 0:02:50.600 you there, You're way more excited than I am. For sure. 0:02:50.680 --> 0:02:53.239 I'm just glad I'm alive right now. We all survived 0:02:53.280 --> 0:02:57.239 last week, so I'm just glad to be breathing right now. 0:02:57.440 --> 0:02:59.320 What people don't know about Amber is that Amber hates 0:02:59.360 --> 0:03:02.079 the coal, so it was doubly bad for Amber. Like 0:03:02.120 --> 0:03:04.400 all the other stuff, the water, the heat, all that stuff, 0:03:04.560 --> 0:03:07.600 Amber hates the cold, so you're talking five degrees Ambers 0:03:07.639 --> 0:03:10.360 out on that you talk, you talk fifty degrees Ambers like, 0:03:10.400 --> 0:03:12.519 I'm not I'm not doing. Did you happen to notice 0:03:12.520 --> 0:03:15.200 where the Cowboys star quarterback was while all of that 0:03:15.320 --> 0:03:17.600 was happening. No where was it none other than the 0:03:17.639 --> 0:03:24.119 Dominican Republic that had just pouring salt your home, your hometown, 0:03:24.240 --> 0:03:28.240 right yep? Yeah, Um, I don't know. I guess can 0:03:28.280 --> 0:03:30.480 you can you still get deals done from over there? 0:03:31.160 --> 0:03:34.440 I would think so, And I'm hopeful that maybe there's 0:03:34.440 --> 0:03:37.160 a little tart going on and it's I'm sure there is. 0:03:37.280 --> 0:03:39.360 I'm sure at some point. Hopefully, at some point they 0:03:39.360 --> 0:03:41.800 will have something for us to announce and talk about 0:03:42.080 --> 0:03:44.040 so that all of our content doesn't end up being 0:03:44.120 --> 0:03:47.720 having comments like signed back. So maybe we can get there. 0:03:47.720 --> 0:03:51.560 So I think he's really involved in the negotiations, which 0:03:52.400 --> 0:03:54.960 somewhat might argue as part of the problem. You know, 0:03:55.000 --> 0:03:56.960 maybe he kind of needs to at some point the 0:03:57.000 --> 0:03:59.440 player does need to kind of step in and help 0:03:59.480 --> 0:04:01.880 and do that, and maybe he will, maybe that will happen, 0:04:01.960 --> 0:04:04.800 but it sounds like he kind of stays away from it, 0:04:05.280 --> 0:04:08.160 and you know, that process hasn't worked in two years 0:04:08.160 --> 0:04:09.760 so he may be at the end of the day. 0:04:10.120 --> 0:04:12.160 I'm a big believer in this. I'm a big believer 0:04:12.160 --> 0:04:14.200 in the fact that when you have two sides that 0:04:14.280 --> 0:04:16.400 want to get a deal done, eventually you get a 0:04:16.400 --> 0:04:18.520 deal done. And so I'm hopeful that that's what's going 0:04:18.600 --> 0:04:20.279 to happen here. We're getting close to the end of 0:04:20.279 --> 0:04:22.240 the day. You know that there's a cliche that everyone 0:04:22.279 --> 0:04:24.919 says that end of the day and whatever that really means. 0:04:25.120 --> 0:04:30.440 But I think we're getting close to the thirty business hours. Yeah, like, yeah, 0:04:30.440 --> 0:04:32.320 we're getting close to the kind of looking checking to 0:04:32.360 --> 0:04:34.279 see if your boss is still in his office, that 0:04:34.400 --> 0:04:36.280 type of thing. And if he's not, make a run 0:04:36.320 --> 0:04:38.520 for hell, yo, not even a run if he's not. 0:04:38.680 --> 0:04:41.200 If you're not there, I'm strolling out. If I just 0:04:41.240 --> 0:04:43.800 went to the restaurant. Now that's a good point. Yeah, 0:04:43.839 --> 0:04:45.880 all right, let's jump in. Today. We are actually going 0:04:45.920 --> 0:04:47.839 to move to the defensive side of the ball. The 0:04:47.920 --> 0:04:49.840 last few shows we've been talking about the offense. We've 0:04:49.839 --> 0:04:52.320 done a review of each position on the offensive side 0:04:52.320 --> 0:04:53.880 of the ball. To day we flip to the defensive 0:04:53.880 --> 0:04:55.640 side of the ball. We're gonna talk about the defensive 0:04:55.680 --> 0:04:58.440 line particularly, But before we get to that, I kind 0:04:58.440 --> 0:05:00.960 of want to set the conversation with a bigger picture 0:05:01.040 --> 0:05:04.880 question about the defense and what we know about this defense. 0:05:04.960 --> 0:05:08.360 It was bad last year, and saying it was bad, 0:05:08.480 --> 0:05:11.039 I don't even think really describes how bad it was. 0:05:11.600 --> 0:05:14.560 This defense was historically bad from the standpoint of the 0:05:14.560 --> 0:05:18.120 Cowboys franchise. That all being said, what do you think 0:05:18.200 --> 0:05:21.559 is the most expedient way for the Cowboys to fix 0:05:21.600 --> 0:05:23.440 this defense? And I'll give you a little bit of 0:05:23.440 --> 0:05:25.960 a hint of where I'm going with this. I've heard 0:05:25.960 --> 0:05:28.279 a lot of discussions about the draft and people talking 0:05:28.320 --> 0:05:30.680 about which way do you go. Do you spend all 0:05:30.720 --> 0:05:33.720 of your draft capital on defense, thinking that's your way 0:05:33.760 --> 0:05:35.719 to kind of pull it out of the depths of 0:05:35.720 --> 0:05:38.320 where it's been, or do you look at the offense 0:05:38.320 --> 0:05:40.159 and say, there are a couple positions on the offense 0:05:40.200 --> 0:05:42.640 that if you just get a couple pieces, this offense 0:05:42.720 --> 0:05:45.240 might be really great and that's how you help this defense. 0:05:45.480 --> 0:05:47.120 Which way do you guys fall on this? Let's start 0:05:47.160 --> 0:05:49.480 with your name. I'll start with the defense first. I mean, 0:05:49.520 --> 0:05:53.200 I think that even though there might be an offensive 0:05:53.200 --> 0:05:55.559 lineman or so that's there that could help you right away. 0:05:55.600 --> 0:05:58.320 I just feel like the defensive side of the ball 0:05:58.360 --> 0:06:00.799 is going to be what you really need. I would 0:06:00.839 --> 0:06:03.240 suggest to do that in the first couple of rounds, 0:06:03.320 --> 0:06:05.479 but it's hard. It's hard to see how the draft 0:06:05.560 --> 0:06:07.680 is gonna go. And and you're right, you could have 0:06:07.720 --> 0:06:09.960 an offensive player that helps you. But but I think 0:06:10.000 --> 0:06:13.520 I'm getting a defensive player that's NFL ready right now, 0:06:13.720 --> 0:06:16.680 could step in and play. Projects are nice, but I 0:06:16.760 --> 0:06:18.839 want a guy and at the tenth overall pick, he 0:06:18.920 --> 0:06:21.240 should be able to step in, and I think it 0:06:21.279 --> 0:06:25.600 was at forty four forty three in the second round four. 0:06:25.680 --> 0:06:28.159 I mean that guy needs to be ready to go 0:06:28.240 --> 0:06:30.680 to I'm not looking at the Jalen Smith's of the 0:06:30.680 --> 0:06:34.160 world and the guys that were banged up and hope 0:06:34.200 --> 0:06:36.680 to steal one. I want a guy can plug in 0:06:36.680 --> 0:06:40.919 and play right now. Amber, Well, it's it's gonna be 0:06:40.960 --> 0:06:43.359 interesting because me personally, I still don't know what to 0:06:43.480 --> 0:06:46.719 expect from den Quinn, and we hear a lot of 0:06:46.760 --> 0:06:49.120 great things about him and his potential when it comes 0:06:49.120 --> 0:06:51.840 to player development and all that. But then you when 0:06:51.880 --> 0:06:55.320 you actually start looking at the roster, this isn't necessarily 0:06:55.320 --> 0:06:57.560 a problem that was just last year. I mean, last 0:06:57.600 --> 0:06:59.800 year it was terrible, but you look at years before that, 0:07:00.320 --> 0:07:03.200 you still were lacking certain talent on the field when 0:07:03.200 --> 0:07:05.039 it came to the defensive side of the ball, and 0:07:05.080 --> 0:07:08.839 that was under a different coaching staff. So you definitely 0:07:08.839 --> 0:07:12.600 need to reinforce find some more power on that end. 0:07:12.680 --> 0:07:16.280 And yes, I'm all for the whole draft and draft 0:07:16.320 --> 0:07:18.560 and you have to draft, you have to. But at 0:07:18.600 --> 0:07:21.840 the same time, I'm a firm believer and I always 0:07:21.880 --> 0:07:24.320 say this. I'm like, I'm about the now, like I 0:07:24.440 --> 0:07:29.080 want it now, like give me my money now. But 0:07:29.320 --> 0:07:32.040 you do need veteran help there. You need someone that's 0:07:32.040 --> 0:07:35.440 already established. And I get that the whole money becomes 0:07:35.440 --> 0:07:37.720 a problem there because you're already gonna have to spend 0:07:37.720 --> 0:07:43.040 on that, hopefully on a extended year contract, But you 0:07:43.160 --> 0:07:46.960 have to at want some point just add veteran help 0:07:47.000 --> 0:07:50.600 and quit hoping that you're drafted talent is going to 0:07:50.680 --> 0:07:55.520 develop into something soon for you to use. You know, 0:07:55.680 --> 0:07:59.120 I'm just I don't have the patience anymore for the 0:07:59.200 --> 0:08:04.240 growth is every years, the roster changes so much and 0:08:04.280 --> 0:08:06.720 then you lose the veteran guys, and now we're at 0:08:06.760 --> 0:08:09.760 the point where we're talking about Tyran Smith, Sack Martin, 0:08:10.160 --> 0:08:13.840 like all Collins being injured, and then you sooner or later, 0:08:13.880 --> 0:08:16.200 you're going to start losing those guys too. So again 0:08:16.480 --> 0:08:21.120 you're transitioning the team into something else. So definitely get 0:08:21.200 --> 0:08:24.000 someone on the defensive side of the ball that can 0:08:24.320 --> 0:08:28.840 help you immediately and not need room for growth. Dave, 0:08:29.680 --> 0:08:32.960 you said expedient, and if that's what, if that's what 0:08:32.960 --> 0:08:34.640 we're talking about, just making how do you get death 0:08:34.640 --> 0:08:37.400 the quick because the fastest way is to sign Dak 0:08:37.400 --> 0:08:40.560 Prescott because it just it just answers all the questions 0:08:40.559 --> 0:08:42.640 about the future of your franchise. If you don't do 0:08:42.679 --> 0:08:45.640 it now, you've got to start thinking about quarterbacks in 0:08:45.679 --> 0:08:48.360 the top ten, drafting a quarterback, figuring out how you're 0:08:48.360 --> 0:08:51.120 going to accommodate that. You're also if you don't sign them, 0:08:51.120 --> 0:08:53.320 you're carrying a thirty eight million dollars cap number that 0:08:53.400 --> 0:08:56.880 makes it incredibly difficult to add any legitimate talent to 0:08:56.920 --> 0:09:00.080 your team right now. If you sign him today, they 0:09:00.559 --> 0:09:03.640 knock knock on would they will? But knock on will 0:09:03.679 --> 0:09:05.760 they won't because that would mean this show is moot, 0:09:05.960 --> 0:09:08.599 you know, But hopefully they get it. Done quickly, is 0:09:08.640 --> 0:09:10.680 what I'm trying to say. Because you can lower his 0:09:10.760 --> 0:09:13.320 number right now. That allows you, you know, they have 0:09:13.520 --> 0:09:16.000 nineteen million in space right now. They can create more 0:09:16.040 --> 0:09:18.839 with a couple of whisks of a PiZZ at nineteen million, 0:09:18.840 --> 0:09:21.679 assuming that it stayed flat like the salary cap. Yeah, 0:09:21.920 --> 0:09:23.360 it's still up in the air a little bit. That's 0:09:23.360 --> 0:09:27.040 assuming the growth is minimal. But they can create a 0:09:27.080 --> 0:09:29.360 lot more just by restructuring a few deals, which they 0:09:29.400 --> 0:09:31.760 do every year. You get dak on a deal you take, 0:09:32.000 --> 0:09:34.679 you can take his number down significantly from the tag number. 0:09:34.920 --> 0:09:38.080 Now you can talk about maybe we resigned Cheeto a Wouozier, 0:09:38.160 --> 0:09:41.000 Maybe we bring in a veteran safety like a keanu'nel. 0:09:41.080 --> 0:09:43.360 I'm only using that name because he played with Dan Quinn. 0:09:43.360 --> 0:09:47.040 I don't want to start any specific rumors or you know, 0:09:47.120 --> 0:09:49.520 like or people ask about Gerald McCoy all the time. 0:09:49.520 --> 0:09:51.680 Maybe you could bring him back. With that savings, you 0:09:51.720 --> 0:09:54.400 had a few players to your defense, then you're probably 0:09:54.440 --> 0:09:57.040 gonna pick in the top one hundred about four times 0:09:57.080 --> 0:09:59.400 when you add in the Byron Jones compick. So now 0:10:00.040 --> 0:10:02.000 and again, I don't want to say you gotta go 0:10:02.200 --> 0:10:04.559 defense with this pick because you never know. Maybe a 0:10:04.679 --> 0:10:09.960 tackle is the best guy at number ten, maybe maybe 0:10:10.000 --> 0:10:11.800 a tackle is the best guy at pick forty four. 0:10:11.840 --> 0:10:15.520 But either way, three of those first four picks hopefully 0:10:15.600 --> 0:10:19.680 will be defense, a couple DB's, a linebacker, maybe whatever. 0:10:20.080 --> 0:10:22.760 So now you're talking about at least three guys who 0:10:22.800 --> 0:10:25.079 you think can contribute in a big way right away, 0:10:25.400 --> 0:10:27.160 handful of free agents. Oh and by the way, your 0:10:27.240 --> 0:10:30.559 quarterback is under contract for the foreseeable future. And if 0:10:30.600 --> 0:10:33.920 all those things happen, I think the Cowboys are easily 0:10:33.920 --> 0:10:36.200 the favorite to win the NFC East, which maybe that 0:10:36.240 --> 0:10:38.920 doesn't mean much because that division was terrible last year. 0:10:38.960 --> 0:10:41.280 But got to win the division to get into the playoffs. 0:10:41.280 --> 0:10:44.520 That's where the conversation starts. And if they do that stuff, 0:10:44.559 --> 0:10:46.840 I think they should win the division. And there you go. 0:10:47.040 --> 0:10:48.960 Amber said something really interesting. I want to get some 0:10:49.000 --> 0:10:51.160 opinions on. She said, I want to win now. I'm 0:10:51.160 --> 0:10:54.080 tired of waiting four draft picks to develop. And you 0:10:54.160 --> 0:10:57.640 look at the Los Angeles Rams. They've taken a similar approach. 0:10:57.720 --> 0:11:00.240 They have over the last few years been very willing 0:11:00.240 --> 0:11:02.800 to give up very high picks for the purposes of 0:11:02.880 --> 0:11:06.200 acquiring veteran talent, And it seems like their strategy is 0:11:06.440 --> 0:11:09.200 we'll let everybody else develop talent. We'll let everybody else 0:11:09.240 --> 0:11:11.760 figure out how that works and and take those risks 0:11:11.760 --> 0:11:14.000 that are associated with it. We'd rather get guys in 0:11:14.040 --> 0:11:16.480 their primes, and we'll give up We'll give up our 0:11:16.640 --> 0:11:18.600 premium draft picks in order to get guys in their 0:11:18.640 --> 0:11:20.440 primes because we would just rather have a veteran team 0:11:20.440 --> 0:11:22.559 and know more of what we're getting. What do you 0:11:22.559 --> 0:11:26.160 guys think about that strategy? Is at a better strategy 0:11:25.480 --> 0:11:29.400 than than optimized or really thinking of draft picks as 0:11:29.520 --> 0:11:32.679 the premier way to build a team over time. Well, 0:11:32.720 --> 0:11:34.640 teams have been doing it for years. They're just usually 0:11:34.640 --> 0:11:36.920 in the NBA. I mean, that's what the NBA does, 0:11:36.960 --> 0:11:39.520 that's their model. So yeah, it's it's a different I 0:11:40.880 --> 0:11:42.760 like everything I do in my life, I like to 0:11:42.800 --> 0:11:45.439 find you find a balance there, Like I like that 0:11:45.559 --> 0:11:47.720 a little bit. But then we don't have to go 0:11:47.760 --> 0:11:50.319 all the way and not draft at all. But I do, 0:11:50.400 --> 0:11:52.959 like I've always thought, you can get good value in 0:11:53.000 --> 0:11:54.800 the draft, and you get a vetter and you bring 0:11:54.840 --> 0:11:57.920 them in here, and I'll always forget I never forget 0:11:57.960 --> 0:11:59.880 that Randy Moss was a fourth round pick to doing 0:12:00.040 --> 0:12:03.600 and you know, just because on draft day you don't 0:12:03.640 --> 0:12:05.680 have a lot of value there um for some reason. 0:12:05.800 --> 0:12:08.760 So yeah, I like to acquire that. I don't think 0:12:08.800 --> 0:12:11.000 you sell the farm for those players, because I do 0:12:11.080 --> 0:12:12.800 think you build through the draft. But I do think 0:12:12.800 --> 0:12:17.400 you can kind of fill holes with building through the draft. 0:12:18.120 --> 0:12:21.640 Hold On, I've been working here for twenty Yeah, but 0:12:21.679 --> 0:12:24.079 I'm just saying, like, I get the logic behind it, 0:12:24.240 --> 0:12:27.839 but man, it's not working well. But here's some hold on. 0:12:27.960 --> 0:12:29.800 But I think it is working. I think it. I 0:12:29.880 --> 0:12:32.080 think it is working. Look at their best players. They're 0:12:32.120 --> 0:12:33.880 best players on their team. Are the guys that they're 0:12:33.960 --> 0:12:36.920 drafting that they're not I mean that they're drafting, they're developing. 0:12:37.080 --> 0:12:40.760 I just don't think the depth is where they're struggling. 0:12:40.960 --> 0:12:43.600 When they went last year to fill holes in the 0:12:43.600 --> 0:12:46.320 free agency, we all were excited about the free agency 0:12:46.720 --> 0:12:50.320 and it was Greg three line was a really good addition. 0:12:51.200 --> 0:12:57.360 Poe McCoy, ha ha, eorly who else busts? I mean, 0:12:57.640 --> 0:13:00.840 it was bad. So I think that you build there, 0:13:01.760 --> 0:13:04.800 but the infrastructure needs some help. And I think I 0:13:04.840 --> 0:13:07.680 think through the draft. I think free agency. That's I'm sorry, 0:13:07.679 --> 0:13:09.880 I'm being long winded. I think what they need to 0:13:09.960 --> 0:13:12.760 change is be more aggressive in free agency. Quit trying 0:13:12.760 --> 0:13:15.720 to bargain shop all the time and wait for the 0:13:15.760 --> 0:13:18.480 price tags to go down, trying to target a guy 0:13:18.520 --> 0:13:21.280 in free agency that will help you maybe go get him. Yeah, 0:13:21.280 --> 0:13:23.360 we've I mean, we've said this for years. Is like, 0:13:23.520 --> 0:13:25.560 you know, you don't have to be one extreme or 0:13:25.559 --> 0:13:27.840 the other, Like I don't. I don't want them to 0:13:27.920 --> 0:13:30.280 chase the giant contracts and free agency, but they gotta 0:13:30.320 --> 0:13:32.360 be willing to do more than they do. That's what 0:13:32.440 --> 0:13:34.480 it comes down to for me and the Rams. I'm 0:13:34.480 --> 0:13:37.280 curious to see how it goes because I I don't 0:13:37.280 --> 0:13:39.400 think it's a terrible idea, especially like you know, you've 0:13:39.440 --> 0:13:42.000 got a veteran team, got a lot of big contracts, 0:13:42.040 --> 0:13:46.360 Like you're gonna wind up up a creek eventually regardless, 0:13:46.400 --> 0:13:47.839 so you might as well go for it, you know, 0:13:48.080 --> 0:13:49.400 like you might as well go for it and try 0:13:49.440 --> 0:13:52.360 to put a great team together and strike while the 0:13:52.400 --> 0:13:56.199 iron's hot. I get it, And you can't completely live 0:13:56.240 --> 0:13:58.600 in fear. But at the same time, like when you 0:13:58.640 --> 0:14:01.000 deal away all your draft pick for half a decade. 0:14:01.240 --> 0:14:04.400 If anything goes wrong, yeah, it's over for you. I mean, 0:14:04.440 --> 0:14:08.240 if Matt Stafford tears his labor, m bye bye. Any 0:14:08.320 --> 0:14:10.600 chance of being good over the next like four years. 0:14:10.600 --> 0:14:13.160 And like I said, I mean, you can't live your 0:14:13.160 --> 0:14:14.600 life in fear that that's going to happen. But you 0:14:14.640 --> 0:14:17.360 got to keep that stuff in mind. So I definitely 0:14:17.600 --> 0:14:20.360 want and think the Cowboys need to be more aggressive. 0:14:20.440 --> 0:14:23.840 But I get real nervous when you start talking about 0:14:24.240 --> 0:14:26.720 not having a way to better your team in the draft, 0:14:26.800 --> 0:14:33.440 and the evidence overwhelmingly shows and it's not uniform, it's 0:14:33.440 --> 0:14:36.680 not a blanket statement, but like cheap labor is how 0:14:36.680 --> 0:14:38.880 you build good teams in the NFL, like finding good 0:14:38.880 --> 0:14:41.480 players in the draft and making the most of them 0:14:41.520 --> 0:14:44.280 before they come up on a second contract. Like that's 0:14:44.280 --> 0:14:46.800 how you succeed. And it's not fair of the players, 0:14:46.880 --> 0:14:49.200 but that's just the way it is with this CBA. 0:14:49.280 --> 0:14:50.720 And I don't think the one they just signed is 0:14:50.720 --> 0:14:54.480 going to change it too much. So they need to 0:14:54.520 --> 0:14:57.960 be more aggressive. But the draft is how you maintain 0:14:58.120 --> 0:15:01.120 longevity in the NFL in my opinion, Yeah, and do 0:15:01.120 --> 0:15:05.600 you have something that now I agree with everything they 0:15:05.680 --> 0:15:09.360 both said, Actually, like that whole mentality. My only problem 0:15:09.440 --> 0:15:11.880 is what I said before, It's just it sucks that 0:15:11.920 --> 0:15:15.240 every year, every year we're talking about, oh, we're developing 0:15:15.240 --> 0:15:17.560 this talent and all that, and then you see the 0:15:17.640 --> 0:15:21.400 transitioning happening, and I feel like I've been here, what 0:15:21.680 --> 0:15:24.760 six seven years now to the point where I'm like, Okay, 0:15:24.800 --> 0:15:28.000 this isn't really working. And maybe it was the coaching staff, 0:15:28.040 --> 0:15:30.400 maybe that was a changeing it. We saw that happening. 0:15:30.720 --> 0:15:34.400 Maybe last year it wasn't the right situation because of 0:15:34.440 --> 0:15:37.560 everything that happened to where they could really get this 0:15:37.640 --> 0:15:40.560 team working together and all that. But it's just it 0:15:40.600 --> 0:15:45.440 becomes frustrating when you're always hoping and everything. That's a gamble. 0:15:45.840 --> 0:15:48.440 Even if you sign a veteran player, it's still a gamble. 0:15:48.560 --> 0:15:54.280 But it's just very frustrating when you only you have 0:15:54.400 --> 0:15:58.280 to wait for that time of these rookie guys to develop, 0:15:58.320 --> 0:16:02.360 and we know that most of those guys they have 0:16:02.480 --> 0:16:04.960 to take some time to grow into. I mean, we 0:16:05.080 --> 0:16:08.520 see it, and maybe it depends on the position obviously, 0:16:08.560 --> 0:16:10.800 but we see it with them needing to put on weight, 0:16:11.640 --> 0:16:16.600 gain strength, feel, get a good feel of the speed 0:16:16.640 --> 0:16:20.960 of the NFL game, So that takes time, and I'm 0:16:20.960 --> 0:16:24.800 sure there are plenty of other people are frustrated than 0:16:24.840 --> 0:16:27.000 I am, because I've only been falling in for less 0:16:27.040 --> 0:16:29.680 than a decade. But it's just a lot. Yeah, well, 0:16:29.760 --> 0:16:31.160 let me let me say this. Then I'm not gonna 0:16:31.160 --> 0:16:34.000 say a specific player who's under a contract with another team, 0:16:34.040 --> 0:16:36.520 I mean, because that could be tampering. I'm not saying that, 0:16:36.560 --> 0:16:38.880 but like, what positions we think this team like really 0:16:38.880 --> 0:16:45.920 got to get better at, like corner, say everything, But 0:16:46.040 --> 0:16:48.920 let's just say you got a guy, he's a he's 0:16:48.960 --> 0:16:51.880 been he's a fourth year of this will be his 0:16:51.960 --> 0:16:55.800 fifth year. He's relatively cheap, made two Pro Bowls. He's 0:16:55.800 --> 0:17:00.080 a stud at corner, you know, or defensive end. He 0:17:00.160 --> 0:17:01.720 is a stud. He has been in the Pro Bowl 0:17:01.760 --> 0:17:04.679 and he needings a big time contract. Are you trading 0:17:04.720 --> 0:17:07.760 Are you trading your tenth pick for that? No, because 0:17:07.760 --> 0:17:11.199 you're you're trading one problem for another, right money? Yeah? Yeah, 0:17:11.240 --> 0:17:14.399 well I don't know. Yeah, well you're creating a problem 0:17:14.400 --> 0:17:18.560 for yourself. But you're also yeah, like again, the cheap 0:17:18.600 --> 0:17:20.720 part of it is what makes that is what makes 0:17:20.760 --> 0:17:23.439 it because you can add talent to your team without 0:17:23.520 --> 0:17:26.560 crippling your salary cap. That's just too valuable to me, 0:17:26.600 --> 0:17:28.600 assuming you're doing your job the right way. And at 0:17:28.680 --> 0:17:30.840 number ten, you're expecting you're getting a player that's going 0:17:30.880 --> 0:17:33.000 to immediately become in and give and make an impact 0:17:33.119 --> 0:17:36.040 right on. And so one Pro Bowl your second round pick. 0:17:36.320 --> 0:17:39.160 The guy's good. He's a good player. He's in his prime. 0:17:39.440 --> 0:17:41.840 This is his still his first deal into the first 0:17:41.880 --> 0:17:44.320 deal is seventh year, he's already had one. And you know, 0:17:44.720 --> 0:17:48.040 I know it's different. Feel is trying to me toward 0:17:48.080 --> 0:17:51.119 a specific No, I'm not because I don't want to 0:17:51.119 --> 0:17:52.560 go down that road. I don't want to. Well, I'll 0:17:52.600 --> 0:17:54.280 tell you this. I'll tell you this. It does depend 0:17:54.320 --> 0:17:56.720 on the position. Yeah, Like if you tell me, tell me. 0:17:57.400 --> 0:17:59.959 If you tell me it's a seventh year UM corner 0:18:00.080 --> 0:18:02.359 back that is that's been to one Pro Bowl and 0:18:02.359 --> 0:18:04.240 that Pro Bowl was last year or the year before, 0:18:04.320 --> 0:18:07.080 and he's playing at that level every year, then maybe 0:18:07.080 --> 0:18:11.120 I consider. Okay, let's say that JJ Watt is undercut. 0:18:11.240 --> 0:18:13.840 He's not under contract, so he's a free Let's say 0:18:13.840 --> 0:18:17.080 that he was, and what would you what would you 0:18:17.080 --> 0:18:19.320 give up? Draft wise? Because there's some fans I'll say 0:18:19.359 --> 0:18:22.000 I'd give up the first round pick. No, definitely, not ten. No, 0:18:22.119 --> 0:18:24.000 I'm like, would you give up your second though for him? 0:18:24.000 --> 0:18:25.760 For J. J. Watt now? Not where he is in 0:18:25.880 --> 0:18:29.639 his career right now. Nope. I can do a third baby, 0:18:29.720 --> 0:18:31.639 you can talk me into a third baby. But I 0:18:31.840 --> 0:18:34.600 first two again, like you just said earlier this year, 0:18:35.040 --> 0:18:36.879 first two picks, I need them both to come in 0:18:36.880 --> 0:18:39.920 and immediately play. Yeah, but that guy is coming well, huh, 0:18:39.960 --> 0:18:41.600 he's been manded up. Yeah. Know what I mean is 0:18:41.600 --> 0:18:43.840 I need him to come into immediately play and give 0:18:43.880 --> 0:18:46.760 me at least four years if it's the first round pick, 0:18:46.800 --> 0:18:49.560 give me five years of production on a cheap contract. Yeah, 0:18:49.600 --> 0:18:52.120 on a relatively cheap contract. I'll just say this. I mean, 0:18:52.160 --> 0:18:55.280 the draft is always going to be a crapshoot, but 0:18:55.359 --> 0:18:57.639 if you do your job the right way, Like the 0:18:58.160 --> 0:19:01.119 transition to the NFL has ever been easier than it 0:19:01.200 --> 0:19:03.760 is right now? Why is it? Well, I mean I 0:19:03.800 --> 0:19:06.560 think because football it's such an industry. Like if you, 0:19:06.600 --> 0:19:08.159 I mean, if you're good at football, you're going to 0:19:08.240 --> 0:19:10.000 camps from the time you're twelve, You're going to these 0:19:10.040 --> 0:19:13.040 big time programs, playing in these big time games every 0:19:13.200 --> 0:19:15.159 I mean, I hate to bring him up for the 0:19:15.200 --> 0:19:17.960 ten millionth time, but t J. Watt didn't need to 0:19:17.960 --> 0:19:19.959 acclimate to the NFL. He was ready to go from 0:19:20.040 --> 0:19:22.360 day one. And he is also a great fit for him. 0:19:22.400 --> 0:19:24.480