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Speaker 1: This this One Bill's Live, presented by Callida Health. All Right,

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Speaker 1: welcome into a Tuesday edition of One Bill's Live. Chris Brown,

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Speaker 1: Steve Tasker on a wet and soggy Tuesday here in

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Speaker 1: Western New York. Mm hmm, it's coming down in buckets people,

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Speaker 1: it is. We can hear it on our roof here

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Speaker 1: in our One Bill's Drive studios. It has been teeming crazy.

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Speaker 1: We need the rain now. We haven't had a lot

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Speaker 2: We we do, but man oh man, it's yeah.

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Speaker 1: We're making up for lost time.

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Speaker 2: I think it was fun while it lasted.

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Speaker 1: Uh yeah, sure it was. I mean Monday was our

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Speaker 1: probably our last eighty degree day of the year. It

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Speaker 1: was eighty yesterday, and it's probably gonna be our last

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Speaker 1: one probably maybe probably make a note of it. October

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Speaker 1: sixth was when the party end.

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Speaker 2: October sixth, it was. It's been sensational. Can't complain.

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Speaker 1: We're heading into quarter zip season, Steve, which isn't a

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Speaker 1: bad thing. I like nice. I mean, we don't wear

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Speaker 1: quarter zips as much as the Mannings, but you know,

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Speaker 1: I don't know.

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Speaker 2: I got home.

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Speaker 1: Well, it's pretty close. It might be pretty close. We

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Speaker 1: wear bills quarter zips. That's what we do.

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Speaker 2: That's correct, and we wear them every day in the

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Speaker 2: winter as.

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Speaker 1: Much as we can. Uh, We've got some interesting news

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Speaker 1: to get to concerning the Bills. NFL Network insider Tom

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Speaker 1: Pelisero is reporting that the Bills are signing linebacker Bale

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Speaker 1: Inspector to the practice squad. So Buffalo's seventh round pick

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Speaker 1: in twenty twenty two sounds like he is going to

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Speaker 1: be back on the roster practice squad. As we know,

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Speaker 1: he ended up being the odd man out doing large

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Speaker 1: part to recurring calf injuries and missed some time in

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Speaker 1: the preseason and then ultimately, I believe if I remember right,

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Speaker 1: was waived injured in August. I think I have that right. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: he made it only healthy now, So that's where that is.

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Speaker 1: You know, guy that knows the system. Well, yeah, Milano's injured,

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Speaker 1: Dorian Williams injured, Jimmy Charlow has been brought up to

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Speaker 1: the active rosters. So you haven't open practice squad spot.

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Speaker 1: They looks like they're gonna fill it with Baylon Spector, right, Okay,

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Speaker 1: we'll see what happens. Staying healthy was his was the

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Speaker 1: biggest impediment to him moving his career forward in the NFL.

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Speaker 2: I think it became a problem. And as we've seen

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Speaker 2: name with you know, Milano, they'll, you know, they'll hang

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Speaker 2: in there with you for a long time if you

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Speaker 2: can do it. But if that's it, I mean, it's

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Speaker 2: just it's a tough tough thing to do.

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Speaker 1: Speaking of those injuries, head coach Sean McDermott provided an

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Speaker 1: injury update at his press conference late Monday, said that

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Speaker 1: Ed Oliver has a shot to play this week. McDermott

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Speaker 1: said he was quote hopeful he can return to the lineup.

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Speaker 1: He has been out since Week one with an ankle injury.

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Speaker 1: Matt Mulano, the aforementioned Matt Milano, is week to week

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Speaker 1: after re injuring his peck in Sunday Night's game against

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Speaker 1: the Patriots, so he is expected to be out this

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Speaker 1: week at Atlanta. TJ. Sanders, who missed last week's game

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Speaker 1: with a knee injury, is a wait and see, according

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Speaker 1: to coach McDermott. Dorian Williams, who missed last week's game

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Speaker 1: with a knee injury, is called day to day, so

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Speaker 1: largely how he gets through the pres this week, we'll

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Speaker 1: determine what his status is for Monday night football in Atlanta.

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Speaker 2: That gives you some hope for these guys in the

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Speaker 2: week of day to day thing.

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Speaker 1: Connor McGovern's hand got beat up in the game. He

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Speaker 1: I would imagine that there's an enormous amount of swelling

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Speaker 1: thing looked like a puff pastry. I mean, it was swollen, so.

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Speaker 2: Doesn't I don't know if he's gonna be dragging that

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Speaker 1: Well, they got to buy after this week, so get

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Speaker 2: It's yeah, yeah, I got some scar tissue from that. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Do you think did the break a bone in his hand?

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Speaker 2: Probably did to get that kind of swelling.

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Speaker 1: I don't know. I would just say I'm not going

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Speaker 2: Somebody comes down on you, put your hand down, somebody's

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Speaker 2: if you catch balls in practice, if you can just

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Speaker 2: like it's like seriously carrying a backpack around wherever you go,

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Speaker 1: You can't run.

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Speaker 2: You can kind of do your life, you can live

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Speaker 2: always there. So I feel bad for a government. He

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Speaker 2: can probably play. Even as a snapper, he can probably

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Speaker 2: which hand it is is his snapping hand, I thought

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Speaker 1: But it's and Dorian Strong, the rookie corner who is

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Speaker 1: maybe every case is different.

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Speaker 2: I get it. But the specialists could give you good

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Speaker 1: Let's cross our fingers and hopefully that But anytime they

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Speaker 1: you don't you don't mess with that stuff. And we

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Speaker 1: were on the round table on Sunday talking about Dorian Strong,

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Speaker 1: and obviously Eric Wood is a guy whose career was

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Speaker 1: ended early because of a neck injury. He said, yeah, once,

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Speaker 1: for your quality of life when you're done playing. And

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Speaker 1: that's presumably why Dorian Strong is going to see a specialist.

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Speaker 2: There are certain things might get a second opinion that

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Speaker 2: certainly football is a risky sport to play. But if

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Speaker 2: it's if the injury is such that it's not at

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Speaker 2: any greater risk, well you've got a different cut problem, right,

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Speaker 2: You're it's the same risk as everybody else when you

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Speaker 2: get healthy. That's the issue. And then sometimes it's like

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Speaker 2: it's never going to be quite right and you're going

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Speaker 2: to be at a greater risk of having something bad

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, we're kind of you know, in a way

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Speaker 1: you almost hope it's like a muscular injury, you know,

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Speaker 1: not spine disc Yeah, just spinal whatever it is.

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Speaker 2: Hope for the best that you got to find some

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Speaker 1: Uh, let's go around the NFL presented by Kalida Healthy,

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Speaker 1: official healthcare system of the Buffalo Bills. Jacksonville Jaguars stage

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Speaker 1: a fourth quarter comeback to beat the Chiefs in Jacksonville

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Speaker 1: on Monday Night Football, thirty one to twenty eight. Trevor

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Speaker 1: Lawrence had the game winning touchdown after getting stepped on

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Speaker 1: by alignment and falling down twice on a first and

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Speaker 1: goal from the one yard line, but he got up,

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Speaker 1: twenty three seconds remaining to get the win and improved

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Speaker 1: to four and one on the season. With the loss,

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Speaker 1: Chiefs fall to two and three. Did you look at

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Speaker 1: Chris Jones on that play? Run that play again, guys, Steve,

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Speaker 1: I want you to look at Chris Jones number ninety five. Well,

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Speaker 1: the zoom out play would be better, but this is

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Speaker 1: to see how Trevor fell down twice. He's scrambling to

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Speaker 1: first angle, Chris Jones. Watch him on this play. He's

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Speaker 1: the defensive tackle on the right guard. This blew up

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Speaker 1: on social media and there he is standing, watching, watching,

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Speaker 1: still watching, and not moving towards the ball at a.

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Speaker 2: Yeah there was. There's twenty seven seconds left during this play.

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Speaker 2: He scores with twenty three seconds to go walking and

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Speaker 2: the Chiefs have now said, yeah, we were trying to

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Speaker 2: let him score to get Mahomes back out on the field.

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Speaker 2: All they would need, well they would need it.

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Speaker 1: Looks like four or five guys are trying awfully hard

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Speaker 2: There. Yeah, it does, so there's obviously some stuff going around.

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Speaker 2: They go up by three, they were down four, and

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Speaker 2: they go up by three. So really all you need

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Speaker 2: is a field goal to tie it with twenty three

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Speaker 2: at my house and I'm thinking, mahome. They have three

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Speaker 2: the Chiefs have three timeouts and twenty three seconds, not

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Speaker 2: thirteen seconds, twenty three seconds to go to the link,

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Speaker 2: not even the length of the field, but you.

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Speaker 1: Know range to tie overtime.

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Speaker 2: And I'll say this, the Jaguars put the ball in

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Speaker 2: there's I think there's thirteen seconds left or sixteen seconds

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Speaker 2: the kickoffs, sixteen you're correct, sixteen seconds left, three timeouts,

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Speaker 2: and I'm sitting there as a Bills fan watching this,

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Speaker 2: I was like, I wonder how they're gonna play defense

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Speaker 2: in this Series three. It is exactly the same scenario

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Speaker 2: that the Bills were in in the thirteen second game,

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Speaker 2: except they had sixteen seconds left when they got the

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Speaker 2: ball back as an offense.

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Speaker 1: And it was a six point game, right.

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Speaker 2: And it was No, it was it was a three

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Speaker 2: point game. Oh yeah, right, Jaguars led by three and

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Speaker 2: the same thing as rebuilds. In the thirteenth second game,

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Speaker 2: they led by three.

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Speaker 1: I was thinking about overtime. Never mind. Yeah, Mahomes passed

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Speaker 1: deep to Worthy incomplete on first down, ten seconds left,

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Speaker 1: second and ten. Mahomes incomplete short middle to Hollywood Brown

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Speaker 1: Kelsey for eleven yards. So they get out to their

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Speaker 1: own twenty eight and call time out at three seconds.

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Speaker 1: Then they call another timeout because they couldn't get the play.

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Speaker 2: They called a timeout, consecutive timeouts and took a penalty

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Speaker 2: because of it, and had backed them up, yeah, to

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Speaker 2: the twenty three yard line, right, and then they tried

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Speaker 2: to hail Mary.

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Speaker 1: No, they got a penalty for delay of game.

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Speaker 2: Well, that's because of the back to back timeouts.

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Speaker 1: Okay, that's the penalty.

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Speaker 2: That's the penalty you're assessed.

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Speaker 1: So first and fifteen at the twenty three pass incomplete

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Speaker 1: Hollywood round game over. Yeah, there you go. So the

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Speaker 1: Chiefs now with that loss, are two and three, and

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Speaker 1: they have as many losses as they had all of

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Speaker 1: last season. Last season, the Chiefs were eleven to zero

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Speaker 1: In a video on social media, Gannon walks over to

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Speaker 2: It's not even gonna be the toughest situation he's been

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Speaker 1: I understand what you're saying. I think it's stupid.

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Speaker 2: If he's doing what it's a it's the ultimate gamble

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Speaker 1: going to be joined by one Mitch Morse. Steve as

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Speaker 1: it's time to go from the Armchair presented by Raymore

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Speaker 1: It's Buffalo Bill's Radio First Brown Steve tasking with you

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Speaker 1: here on a Tuesday, and it's the time in the

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Speaker 1: the Buffalo Bills. Mitch. We're here in week six and

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think you're you're at the point where you

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Speaker 4: you're welcome to the NFL as a fan, as a player.

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Speaker 4: It's not you're not going to go undefeated. You're gonna

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Speaker 4: hit these hiccups, and it's how you responded. That's how competitively,

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Speaker 4: find out, I think against a very interesting opponent on

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Speaker 2: What are your thoughts on where the Bills stand right now? Certainly,

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Speaker 4: I actually kind of liked the fact that they had this.

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Speaker 4: I wouldn't say wake up call because that's not fair,

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Speaker 4: probably came out on top execution wise, penalties, turnover. You

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Speaker 4: I don't think this team was riding high on themselves, right,

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Speaker 1: All right, so let's take a look at this last game,

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Speaker 1: because it wasn't all bad. And the first thing we

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Speaker 4: Yeah. I think it was a great tone setting drive

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Speaker 4: for Greg Russo. The first four plays, one tackle for loss,

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Speaker 4: one of my favorite plays of the game because it's

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Speaker 4: been talked about a little bit. But the two veterans

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Speaker 4: on the defenses right the offense has left day Kwanton

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Speaker 4: Jones and Joey Bosa ran one of the coolest fake

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Speaker 4: twists of all time, giving the pressure up the middle

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Speaker 4: so that Drake may had to allude to his right,

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Speaker 4: but Greg Russo hit the edge, kept contained, but also

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Speaker 4: kept a real long arm so that he was able

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Speaker 4: to elude a pretty good tackle when Morgan Moses has

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Speaker 4: been doing it for quite some time, and making that

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Speaker 4: sack rather and it was just a good tone setter

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Speaker 4: for that defense, a good getting off the field quickly

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Speaker 4: and getting their offense to the ball early on.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he was the team leader, tied for the team

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Speaker 1: leading tackles with six, had the sack. As you mentioned,

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Speaker 1: two tackles for lost three quarterback hits in that game.

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Speaker 1: That's more of the stat line that they're looking for.

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Speaker 2: Form, yeah, right, and defensively it seemed, you know, holding

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Speaker 2: the a team like New England to twenty three points

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Speaker 2: and in the last second field gold as well, and

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Speaker 2: getting some stands when the Bills turned it over three times,

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Speaker 2: particularly in their own end. You know, Keon dropped one

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Speaker 2: inside the ten yard line fumble, the Patriots get it,

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Speaker 2: and Josh threw a red zone interception he almost never

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Speaker 2: see him do anymore. He threw that and they picked

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Speaker 2: it off, which took points off the board for Buffalo defense.

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Speaker 2: Kind of you to tip your hat to him. This

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Speaker 2: may have been their best defensive performance of the year

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Speaker 2: because it there was never a lead by the Bills.

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Speaker 4: Without a doubt. Steve, Honestly, when you just look at

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Speaker 4: the stat line, right, the New England Patriots at seventy

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Speaker 4: one yards rushing, which is by far the best outing

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Speaker 4: by the Bills defense by over thirty yards. Right. It

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Speaker 4: was a great tone setting game. And I know I've

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Speaker 4: said tone setting quite a few times, but I think

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Speaker 4: that's a real important part of where this team is

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Speaker 4: in the season. The defense I thought played very well.

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Speaker 4: Of course, Stefan had it at a game which you

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Speaker 4: got to tip your hat. I think Josh McDaniel's also

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Speaker 4: called a very good game. But if you're looking at this, yes,

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Speaker 4: the Bills turned it over and turned it over on

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Speaker 4: the ten yard line. Also through some points away like

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Speaker 4: you said in the red zone. The Bills are in

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Speaker 4: a good spot on defense. So I just think it's

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Speaker 4: an opportunity to, like you said early on, still find

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Speaker 4: some good things in this game. Yes, it's a loss,

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Speaker 4: it's the NFL, it's gonna happen. What can you build

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Speaker 4: upon even on losses? And I think that's what you

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Speaker 4: find in good teams when they look at the film

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Speaker 4: on Monday. What we can still grow on, of course,

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Speaker 4: but what we can accentuate the good stuff, because there

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Speaker 4: is good stuff in that game, and I think you

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Speaker 4: can find it on that film.

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Speaker 2: All right.

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Speaker 1: So opening offensive drive to start the second half for

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Speaker 1: the Bills, coach McDermott talked about in his press conference yesterday.

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Speaker 1: He was proud of the way he felt the offense

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Speaker 1: was able to reset and come out in the second half.

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Speaker 1: So why don't you address what you saw there?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, the guys were down six to three. I already

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Speaker 4: had two turnovers. Penalties were a little bit of an issue.

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Speaker 4: If you want to say that you come out and

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Speaker 4: you bang out a ten or eleven play drive. I

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Speaker 4: think it was eleven plays if you count. When they

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Speaker 4: were able to get the defense the encroachment right. You

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Speaker 4: have James Cook starting early with a run. Then you're

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Speaker 4: able to hit Dalton Kinkaid for a huge game. You

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Speaker 4: had James Cook who had one on the third play

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Speaker 4: right there, one of the best runs of the day.

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Speaker 4: They brought a pressure, there was also penetration. He was

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Speaker 4: able to find the tackle and you hit it inside.

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Speaker 4: Kean Coleman also had that reception, and then you just

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Speaker 4: took what the defense gave you. Right for these five

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Speaker 4: yard games at Dawson Knox, it's another five yard to

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Speaker 4: ten yard game to Khalil Shakir. You had the bubble

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Speaker 4: screen and then you were able to have Curtis Samuel

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Speaker 4: have this really cool fake motion come out the side

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Speaker 4: and then was able to walk in for a touchdown.

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Speaker 4: It was just a great way to accentuate all the

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Speaker 4: good things you're looking for coming out of the second half. Execution,

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Speaker 4: keeping the ball in front of you, not having any

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Speaker 4: negative plays, ending up with the first touchdown of the game.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, what do you think about the turnovers. I certainly

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Speaker 2: keon it's a little bit unusual for him to catch

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Speaker 2: one and then drop it. Josh throwing it, he said,

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Speaker 2: and admitted it was a little it was a bad

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Speaker 2: toss behind the receiver who you know when it got intercepted.

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Speaker 3: You know.

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Speaker 2: So all the turnovers have been a strength to the teams.

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Speaker 2: And it's pretty evident too. And your team from last year, Jacksonville,

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Speaker 2: has been a poster child. They had nine turnovers all

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Speaker 2: of last year. They've got fourteen in the first five

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Speaker 2: games and are four and one as a result. So

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Speaker 2: you know, obviously that's the big stat that, you know,

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Speaker 2: the first time in a long time the Bills have

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Speaker 2: lost the turnover battle.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's one of the most jarring statistics in the league,

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Speaker 4: is winning percentage. When you win the turnover battle, you're

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Speaker 4: gonna have these moments. You're gonna have these lab if

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Speaker 4: you want to call it, lapses in judgment. It's part

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Speaker 4: of the gig. And what that's gonna do is it's

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Speaker 4: gonna help you double down on ball security. I'm sure

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Speaker 4: they'll do ball security drills. I'm sure Josh will be

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Speaker 4: extra cognizant of the that he makes and I think

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Speaker 4: when you see the plays that he made after that interception,

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Speaker 4: he was just going to take what the defense gave him,

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Speaker 4: and he used his legs a lot more, took those

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Speaker 4: five ten yard you know, pitch and catches, and that's

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Speaker 4: what you want to see you in your team. You

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Speaker 4: want to see them learn on the fly, make those

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Speaker 4: in game adjustments, but also implement those as they go

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Speaker 4: down there.

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Speaker 2: I know the Bills brushed for one hundred and eighteen yards,

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Speaker 2: it didn't feel like that, right. I mean, what do

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Speaker 2: you think about the Bill's running game right now?

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Speaker 4: I think the Bill's running game is in a really

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Speaker 4: good spot. Watching the New England Patriots what they did.

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Speaker 4: They knew that the Bill's bread and butter was under

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Speaker 4: center outside zone to the weak side with that cutback right,

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Speaker 4: and if you watched the end zone footage of the

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Speaker 4: run game, they were sitting on that like you wouldn't believe.

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Speaker 4: And to be able to even get yards with that,

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Speaker 4: they have four or five guys around the tight ends

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Speaker 4: because they knew they wanted to put pressure on those guys,

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Speaker 4: and I thought they.

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Speaker 2: Still executed very well.

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Speaker 4: They'll have something to work on because you know, it's

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Speaker 4: it's a study, it's a setting league, it's a copycat league.

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Speaker 4: Other defense are going to try to emulate what the

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Speaker 4: New England Patriots did and now they'll have an onus

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Speaker 4: on what to do in practice.

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Speaker 1: Last thing that you wanted to pull from that game, obviously,

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Speaker 1: Dalton Kincaid had a day six catches for a single

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Speaker 1: game career high one hundred and eight yards. And this

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Speaker 1: is not just a one off. I mean, this is

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Speaker 1: a guy that has been delivering production each and every

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Speaker 1: week and very quickly he's going to find himself a

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Speaker 1: top the team here in receiving categories.

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Speaker 4: It's just so much fun to watch him play football

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Speaker 4: right now, see him have his confidence in himself, the

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Speaker 4: quarterback having confidence in him, or six receptions one hundred

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Speaker 4: and eight yards, He's on pace for almost one thousand

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Speaker 4: yards this season. I think he's just going to continue

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Speaker 4: to grow, be better, be more available for Josh. Josh

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Speaker 4: is going to find more trust in him, and he

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Speaker 4: already has a bunch of trust in him, just to

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Speaker 4: see what he's able to do in the past game,

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Speaker 4: but also the blocking game. I know he had that

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Speaker 4: early weird kind of ticky tack holding call where they

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Speaker 4: kind of fell into each other. But what he's been

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Speaker 4: able to do, not only in the past game, but

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Speaker 4: in that run blocking phase or perimeter blocking is just

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Speaker 4: so fun to see. He's on pace to have an

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Speaker 4: All Pro Pro Bowl year. I'm looking forward to seeing

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Speaker 4: him maturate as the season progresses.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and look he while he's doing all this stuff

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Speaker 1: in the passing game, I would say the part of

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Speaker 1: his game that's improved the most is probably his blocking.

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Speaker 1: I know he got flag for that TICKI tag holding call,

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Speaker 1: But to me, I think he's really invested in making

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Speaker 1: his blocking better. And I think that's why the team

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Speaker 1: feels so confident, you know, going to twelve and thirteen personnel.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's just it's coaches bread and butter right now.

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Speaker 4: Right Brady loves that twelve and thirteen personnel. He loves

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Speaker 4: his tight ends and his receivers blocking on the edge.

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Speaker 4: And to your credit what you said, Dalton kin Kaid

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Speaker 4: has made a conscious effort in improving that part of

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Speaker 4: his game. Just even his hand placement at second level

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Speaker 4: something extremely hard to do. He's surgical with it, and

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Speaker 4: that gives you the ability to of course move and

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Speaker 4: maneuver with your guy, but also gives you, the ball

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Speaker 4: carrier an opportunity to cut make these moves without you

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Speaker 4: getting a holding call. And he's just what he's doing

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Speaker 4: right now with a football in his hand, without the

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Speaker 4: football in his hand, is really something special to see

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Speaker 4: and I'm so excited for him as a player and

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Speaker 4: also as a person.

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Speaker 1: Mitch, thanks for the time. We appreciate it. We'll catch

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Speaker 1: you up with you next week after Monday Night Football.

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Speaker 4: Looking forward to it. Fellas, have a great week.

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Speaker 1: Here is the Week five edition. All right, we are off.

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Speaker 1: It is Week five tailgate tag along number four Steve

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Speaker 1: And what's on the menu today? Clam showder pizza?

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Speaker 2: What's in chili?

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Speaker 1: It's eighty four degrees? Bro, let's go. Where's Jake? Where's

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Speaker 1: there's Jake here? Who's got the wood oven? Pizza is

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Speaker 1: making pizza?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: Man?

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Speaker 2: How you doing? Chris Brown?

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Speaker 1: You guys tweet at us about you?

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Speaker 2: Guys tweeted at us about your tailgate? No, somebody wait,

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Speaker 2: is there another? Is there another?

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Speaker 6: RV?

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Speaker 1: The Jacob?

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Speaker 7: So?

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Speaker 2: Did you know You're not the only Jake making pizza?

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Speaker 2: What's up? Guys?

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Speaker 1: All right here, Chris Brown, Nice to meet you.

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Speaker 2: Who's our guy?

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Speaker 1: So Jake tweeted about your h You're set up here

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Speaker 1: and you're right up against the fence. You got the

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00:35:45,000 --> 00:35:48,000
Speaker 1: stadium backdrop. This is like perfect photos.

653
00:35:47,480 --> 00:35:50,560
Speaker 2: For ye courtyard here with the r v's it's always

654
00:35:50,560 --> 00:35:51,280
Speaker 2: a perfect spot.

655
00:35:51,320 --> 00:35:53,279
Speaker 1: And you got great and you've got the oonie of it,

656
00:35:53,440 --> 00:35:55,800
Speaker 1: which I have one of these, but not with the stack.

657
00:35:56,200 --> 00:35:58,719
Speaker 1: I have a smaller one. Do you like this one

658
00:35:58,719 --> 00:35:59,480
Speaker 1: with the stack better?

659
00:36:00,040 --> 00:36:01,240
Speaker 2: I like it a lot it? Uh?

660
00:36:01,680 --> 00:36:05,800
Speaker 8: You know flame, the flame kissed, the flame kissing everything

661
00:36:05,800 --> 00:36:06,319
Speaker 8: over the tops?

662
00:36:06,400 --> 00:36:06,600
Speaker 2: Nice?

663
00:36:06,640 --> 00:36:06,839
Speaker 3: Yeah?

664
00:36:06,880 --> 00:36:07,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay?

665
00:36:07,760 --> 00:36:11,640
Speaker 2: And so how long you been doing the pizza? H

666
00:36:11,800 --> 00:36:14,200
Speaker 2: about three years or so? Yeah? What did you move

667
00:36:14,280 --> 00:36:15,759
Speaker 2: up from something else? Did you have a go to

668
00:36:15,800 --> 00:36:17,160
Speaker 2: and then you just kind of evolved? Uh?

669
00:36:17,239 --> 00:36:19,279
Speaker 1: Huh. I got it as a gift and just went

670
00:36:19,320 --> 00:36:21,640
Speaker 1: with you sow.

671
00:36:23,120 --> 00:36:25,919
Speaker 2: For the holidays, kid, give him a tailgate thing.

672
00:36:26,400 --> 00:36:29,160
Speaker 1: How many years have you been in this spot with

673
00:36:29,280 --> 00:36:30,440
Speaker 1: this group of people doing this?

674
00:36:30,800 --> 00:36:33,640
Speaker 5: When did you guys move into this law thirteen?

675
00:36:33,760 --> 00:36:37,239
Speaker 2: Oh there you go for forty years? Ah, bless your heart.

676
00:36:37,280 --> 00:36:37,800
Speaker 2: That's awesome.

677
00:36:38,120 --> 00:36:40,360
Speaker 1: And how many are you usually? Every week?

678
00:36:40,960 --> 00:36:41,240
Speaker 7: Uh?

679
00:36:41,239 --> 00:36:44,440
Speaker 9: There's at least but probably twenty to forty depending on

680
00:36:44,480 --> 00:36:45,040
Speaker 9: the week.

681
00:36:45,120 --> 00:36:47,160
Speaker 2: In it's a little area. Now there's a lot of pizza.

682
00:36:47,360 --> 00:36:49,560
Speaker 2: Last week was like a banner week for tail did

683
00:36:49,560 --> 00:36:51,759
Speaker 2: you guys bust loose last week too? I mean it

684
00:36:51,840 --> 00:36:54,320
Speaker 2: was yah. Do you do this every home game? Because

685
00:36:54,320 --> 00:36:56,680
Speaker 2: it I don't know. We we kind of rotate who

686
00:36:56,680 --> 00:36:58,799
Speaker 2: brings the food every week? So this was this is

687
00:36:58,840 --> 00:36:59,720
Speaker 2: my week with the pizza.

688
00:36:59,760 --> 00:37:02,360
Speaker 1: That So here's the important question. As you know, in

689
00:37:02,360 --> 00:37:05,520
Speaker 1: those ooneye ovens, you can't make huge pizzas.

690
00:37:05,600 --> 00:37:06,520
Speaker 2: Correct, you got.

691
00:37:06,360 --> 00:37:07,080
Speaker 6: Twenty people here?

692
00:37:07,120 --> 00:37:08,160
Speaker 1: How many pizzas you gotta make?

693
00:37:08,400 --> 00:37:09,160
Speaker 2: We we did?

694
00:37:09,280 --> 00:37:09,440
Speaker 3: Uh?

695
00:37:09,880 --> 00:37:13,120
Speaker 2: I made fifteen? Does that's a lot of work?

696
00:37:13,760 --> 00:37:13,920
Speaker 6: Yeah?

697
00:37:14,400 --> 00:37:16,120
Speaker 2: Yesterday is starting to talk.

698
00:37:17,800 --> 00:37:17,880
Speaker 7: That.

699
00:37:20,120 --> 00:37:22,479
Speaker 2: No, I'm not saying there is, but okay, you can't

700
00:37:22,480 --> 00:37:23,400
Speaker 2: interrupt him.

701
00:37:23,680 --> 00:37:26,240
Speaker 1: Now, somebody was talking a big game about clam chowder

702
00:37:26,920 --> 00:37:31,319
Speaker 1: and chicken buffalo chicken. Yeah, so to match it half

703
00:37:31,400 --> 00:37:33,719
Speaker 1: right here, So we got the uh clam chowder on

704
00:37:33,760 --> 00:37:37,080
Speaker 1: the right. It's a speciamel bass red potatoes.

705
00:37:37,120 --> 00:37:38,640
Speaker 2: Is it cooked already? Yeah?

706
00:37:39,280 --> 00:37:42,560
Speaker 1: Ten minutes ago? Right, So why don't we cut that up? Well?

707
00:37:42,600 --> 00:37:44,759
Speaker 1: He can? It should be hot enough, it's enough?

708
00:37:44,840 --> 00:37:47,920
Speaker 2: Is it hot enough? It's okay? If you said it's hot,

709
00:37:48,000 --> 00:37:49,520
Speaker 2: let's go hook me up.

710
00:37:49,680 --> 00:37:51,719
Speaker 1: All right, So we'll take one of each because we

711
00:37:51,760 --> 00:37:54,920
Speaker 1: gotta just taste both sides of it right. He knows

712
00:37:54,960 --> 00:37:57,200
Speaker 1: what he's doing. He's got the pizza cutter in this thing.

713
00:37:57,239 --> 00:37:57,879
Speaker 2: The pizza cutter.

714
00:37:58,320 --> 00:38:00,680
Speaker 1: I gotta get one of those. I know, all right,

715
00:38:00,719 --> 00:38:03,319
Speaker 1: what are we trying? Well, we know, we know what

716
00:38:03,320 --> 00:38:06,320
Speaker 1: we're getting here, right, we're getting We're getting buffalo chicken

717
00:38:06,760 --> 00:38:07,440
Speaker 1: that looks.

718
00:38:07,200 --> 00:38:10,839
Speaker 2: Like balo chicken. Is exactly what it's supposed to take.

719
00:38:11,320 --> 00:38:13,440
Speaker 6: Molla that my wife made, Oh and.

720
00:38:13,400 --> 00:38:17,000
Speaker 1: I got I'm getting the blue in there. I'm getting

721
00:38:17,000 --> 00:38:17,920
Speaker 1: the boots there.

722
00:38:18,200 --> 00:38:19,400
Speaker 2: That's exactly perfect.

723
00:38:19,719 --> 00:38:24,399
Speaker 1: Don't go anywhere with that because I'm all right. Now

724
00:38:24,440 --> 00:38:26,200
Speaker 1: we got to try the clam chowder. This is in

725
00:38:26,239 --> 00:38:28,880
Speaker 1: the spirit of the New England Patriots, I'm guessing more

726
00:38:28,920 --> 00:38:29,480
Speaker 1: than anything else.

727
00:38:29,719 --> 00:38:33,200
Speaker 2: Hold on, hold, trying not to gag. Now that's got

728
00:38:33,239 --> 00:38:34,840
Speaker 2: the It's got a little bit of bardy cheese in

729
00:38:34,880 --> 00:38:37,600
Speaker 2: it too. How words out on.

730
00:38:41,120 --> 00:38:44,719
Speaker 1: I would never have thought clammed I would work on

731
00:38:44,760 --> 00:38:45,480
Speaker 1: a pizza.

732
00:38:45,480 --> 00:38:47,319
Speaker 2: And it's totally different on the half and half with

733
00:38:47,360 --> 00:38:52,800
Speaker 2: that buffalo this is PREMI savory, spicy.

734
00:38:54,120 --> 00:38:56,160
Speaker 1: Better. But I would I will have to say I

735
00:38:56,440 --> 00:39:00,920
Speaker 1: never had clams. That's the best Clane right, that was

736
00:39:00,960 --> 00:39:05,920
Speaker 1: really good. Aw Home, this is awesome. We have some

737
00:39:06,480 --> 00:39:10,239
Speaker 1: people from Wegmans here with us that would like to

738
00:39:10,280 --> 00:39:12,680
Speaker 1: extend a couple of things. First of all, they help

739
00:39:12,719 --> 00:39:15,760
Speaker 1: us out every week with these After we sample your food,

740
00:39:16,400 --> 00:39:18,359
Speaker 1: they're kind enough to let us present you with a

741
00:39:18,440 --> 00:39:20,120
Speaker 1: twenty five dollars Wegmans gift cards.

742
00:39:20,120 --> 00:39:22,520
Speaker 2: So this week is special so.

743
00:39:22,440 --> 00:39:24,880
Speaker 1: You can hit the official tailgate headquarters of the Bills.

744
00:39:24,880 --> 00:39:27,080
Speaker 2: And this week is special because it's wide out. Bring

745
00:39:27,120 --> 00:39:29,840
Speaker 2: the storm ice cream for you guys. There you go, and.

746
00:39:30,760 --> 00:39:33,080
Speaker 1: Look did Wegmans pick a good day to do a tailgate?

747
00:39:33,120 --> 00:39:35,759
Speaker 1: Eighty four degrees to bring the ice cream?

748
00:39:35,880 --> 00:39:37,560
Speaker 2: So you better eat you better eat this.

749
00:39:38,719 --> 00:39:41,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, you guys are always prepared in the RV. So

750
00:39:41,160 --> 00:39:44,560
Speaker 1: that's for you guys as well. Up, congratulations and I'm

751
00:39:44,600 --> 00:39:45,120
Speaker 1: taking this.

752
00:39:45,000 --> 00:39:47,319
Speaker 2: With fantastic tailgate. Thanks for inviting us.

753
00:39:47,320 --> 00:39:49,000
Speaker 1: Appreciate Thanks everybody.

754
00:39:49,040 --> 00:39:49,680
Speaker 2: That's awesome.

755
00:39:49,800 --> 00:39:53,080
Speaker 1: All Right, we're on to tailgate number two and this

756
00:39:53,120 --> 00:39:56,600
Speaker 1: is gonna change precipitously. It's a little hot or we're

757
00:39:56,640 --> 00:39:57,640
Speaker 1: in for chili next.

758
00:39:58,000 --> 00:40:01,799
Speaker 2: Okay, all right, all right, we're off get ready all.

759
00:40:01,760 --> 00:40:04,280
Speaker 1: Right here at tailgate stop number two. We're in the woods.

760
00:40:04,280 --> 00:40:07,080
Speaker 1: Where the hell are we over here? Yeah? I see

761
00:40:07,080 --> 00:40:09,520
Speaker 1: that this is like set off. This is this is

762
00:40:09,560 --> 00:40:11,120
Speaker 1: off the grid, pretty quiet back.

763
00:40:11,080 --> 00:40:13,000
Speaker 2: We're off the grid. This is quiet, very nice though,

764
00:40:13,000 --> 00:40:14,200
Speaker 2: little grove of trees shady.

765
00:40:14,360 --> 00:40:16,640
Speaker 6: You know, the mister's only crown in the morning.

766
00:40:16,840 --> 00:40:18,320
Speaker 10: It's the only time they get a word in edgeways

767
00:40:18,360 --> 00:40:18,719
Speaker 10: for the hens.

768
00:40:18,760 --> 00:40:23,439
Speaker 1: Wake up. Okay, you live with that one at your house, buddy,

769
00:40:23,600 --> 00:40:26,600
Speaker 1: that's great. Yeah, yeah, I'm sure you have. I'm sure

770
00:40:26,600 --> 00:40:26,920
Speaker 1: you have.

771
00:40:27,200 --> 00:40:30,600
Speaker 2: Sorry today, Yeah, we got Jill you so this your girl,

772
00:40:30,719 --> 00:40:32,640
Speaker 2: your colors. This is your runner up. Chilli. You you

773
00:40:32,840 --> 00:40:34,680
Speaker 2: almost won a contest, almost one.

774
00:40:34,760 --> 00:40:37,000
Speaker 1: It was about ten years ago. Yeah, but I won

775
00:40:37,040 --> 00:40:37,600
Speaker 1: the contest.

776
00:40:37,680 --> 00:40:40,040
Speaker 2: Chris won the contest. No wonder we're here.

777
00:40:40,280 --> 00:40:41,200
Speaker 1: I got one vote.

778
00:40:41,239 --> 00:40:44,680
Speaker 2: Chris Brown wants a flex. Chris said, all the other votes,

779
00:40:45,200 --> 00:40:46,640
Speaker 2: it was not about all of them.

780
00:40:46,680 --> 00:40:48,000
Speaker 1: But it was the same night that I broke his

781
00:40:48,080 --> 00:40:50,880
Speaker 1: son's arm. Well, you're accused of breaking his arm.

782
00:40:51,120 --> 00:40:52,080
Speaker 6: I'm the ski slope.

783
00:40:52,520 --> 00:40:54,640
Speaker 2: And was it the same night as a sambourine?

784
00:40:54,680 --> 00:40:57,600
Speaker 1: This seems really in any event, this seems really complex.

785
00:40:57,680 --> 00:40:58,440
Speaker 2: Long story there.

786
00:40:58,640 --> 00:41:01,200
Speaker 1: It sounds like it I need to know what goes

787
00:41:01,280 --> 00:41:04,280
Speaker 1: into the chili, Like what kind of beans? Is it beef?

788
00:41:04,600 --> 00:41:07,480
Speaker 1: Is it something else, like, what's the main meat and

789
00:41:07,520 --> 00:41:08,440
Speaker 1: potatoes I use.

790
00:41:08,520 --> 00:41:12,239
Speaker 10: I use a meat loaf mix for my Hamburger meat

791
00:41:12,239 --> 00:41:15,920
Speaker 10: loaf mix. And then I use bush beans, spicy chili beans,

792
00:41:16,160 --> 00:41:18,560
Speaker 10: and I bumped the whole cannon. And then I use

793
00:41:18,800 --> 00:41:23,080
Speaker 10: uh crushed tomatoes with hot chilis in.

794
00:41:23,040 --> 00:41:24,879
Speaker 2: Them, the chimney beans.

795
00:41:24,960 --> 00:41:27,400
Speaker 1: Those the spicy spicy bushes.

796
00:41:27,000 --> 00:41:32,200
Speaker 10: Beans, and then a can of corn and chibe.

797
00:41:31,960 --> 00:41:36,760
Speaker 2: And then you put you throw extras on sides, on chibes,

798
00:41:37,200 --> 00:41:38,440
Speaker 2: put on cheese.

799
00:41:38,440 --> 00:41:40,640
Speaker 1: It's on the bottom. Okay, soak up. I want to

800
00:41:40,640 --> 00:41:42,640
Speaker 1: walk over because you said you do it on the grill,

801
00:41:42,719 --> 00:41:45,279
Speaker 1: because that's well obviously you don't have enough in here.

802
00:41:45,560 --> 00:41:47,239
Speaker 2: Made it home. We make it at home.

803
00:41:47,600 --> 00:41:49,200
Speaker 10: You could put a chili in a bag with a

804
00:41:49,200 --> 00:41:52,200
Speaker 10: bag of doritos, or you can do in a bowl.

805
00:41:52,280 --> 00:41:53,399
Speaker 2: No, no, just give me a bowl.

806
00:41:53,800 --> 00:41:54,719
Speaker 1: All right, we're doing balls.

807
00:41:54,800 --> 00:41:58,120
Speaker 2: Give me a little bit now. That looks perfect consistency.

808
00:41:58,600 --> 00:41:59,879
Speaker 1: This is a kind of this is kind of an

809
00:41:59,760 --> 00:42:01,560
Speaker 1: on New usual day to be doing chili.

810
00:42:01,600 --> 00:42:03,360
Speaker 2: Though eighty four degrees.

811
00:42:03,440 --> 00:42:07,000
Speaker 10: You thought it was gonna be a little colder, especially

812
00:42:07,080 --> 00:42:10,000
Speaker 10: with the jersey theme, and I need spoon.

813
00:42:10,760 --> 00:42:17,480
Speaker 2: Thank you. It's runner up chili, which you know. I

814
00:42:17,520 --> 00:42:18,560
Speaker 2: don't know if you heard. I don't know if you

815
00:42:18,640 --> 00:42:20,520
Speaker 2: heard this, but I lost four Super Bowls, so I

816
00:42:20,600 --> 00:42:24,839
Speaker 2: kind of I don't know if you heard. Uh, Yeah,

817
00:42:24,920 --> 00:42:26,120
Speaker 2: corn bread's happening there.

818
00:42:26,200 --> 00:42:26,920
Speaker 1: That's gonna happen.

819
00:42:29,960 --> 00:42:34,160
Speaker 2: So Steve Branda banana pepper dip, buffalo chicken dip, Banana

820
00:42:34,160 --> 00:42:34,640
Speaker 2: pepper dip.

821
00:42:34,960 --> 00:42:38,239
Speaker 1: Banana pepper's are from our garden. All right, there we go,

822
00:42:38,600 --> 00:42:43,640
Speaker 1: moment of truth this morning? Did you already had I'm

823
00:42:43,680 --> 00:42:45,840
Speaker 1: asking if Steve already had something? He's like half his

824
00:42:45,920 --> 00:42:46,680
Speaker 1: yelbow deep in.

825
00:42:46,640 --> 00:42:50,560
Speaker 2: His awesome, great idea. How long does it take to

826
00:42:50,600 --> 00:42:51,000
Speaker 2: make them?

827
00:42:51,360 --> 00:42:51,759
Speaker 1: That's good?

828
00:42:52,200 --> 00:42:52,719
Speaker 2: Making it home?

829
00:42:52,880 --> 00:42:54,600
Speaker 1: I want to try it with a little cilantro I've

830
00:42:54,640 --> 00:42:57,080
Speaker 1: never done. Leave it, leave it warm on the grill.

831
00:42:57,239 --> 00:43:00,279
Speaker 2: How do you trans how do you trans about? All right?

832
00:43:00,320 --> 00:43:02,920
Speaker 1: So, how long have you guys been coming out to

833
00:43:03,000 --> 00:43:06,240
Speaker 1: this spot here with with your tailgate?

834
00:43:06,840 --> 00:43:07,400
Speaker 6: Three years?

835
00:43:07,600 --> 00:43:08,000
Speaker 2: Three years?

836
00:43:08,560 --> 00:43:08,880
Speaker 1: Okay?

837
00:43:09,320 --> 00:43:11,400
Speaker 2: And what were you someplace else before this?

838
00:43:11,480 --> 00:43:14,879
Speaker 10: I mean we, uh, we were up on a couple

839
00:43:14,880 --> 00:43:17,520
Speaker 10: different lots up here on Ape and then we found

840
00:43:17,560 --> 00:43:20,080
Speaker 10: this spot and then we rent the We rent the

841
00:43:20,120 --> 00:43:20,600
Speaker 10: spot for.

842
00:43:20,560 --> 00:43:23,720
Speaker 1: The whole whole season because we got season tickets.

843
00:43:23,920 --> 00:43:27,160
Speaker 2: How long have you had your season tickets? Four years?

844
00:43:27,160 --> 00:43:27,560
Speaker 1: Five years?

845
00:43:27,560 --> 00:43:30,200
Speaker 2: We've been sharing now and I know this. This, I mean,

846
00:43:30,200 --> 00:43:32,120
Speaker 2: this is a ton of work. Do you You don't

847
00:43:32,160 --> 00:43:34,680
Speaker 2: do this every game? Right? I mean yes, we do.

848
00:43:34,800 --> 00:43:36,359
Speaker 1: Yes, this is every game, every game.

849
00:43:36,400 --> 00:43:39,200
Speaker 10: How many people come here on every game depends between

850
00:43:39,239 --> 00:43:41,000
Speaker 10: twenty and thirty a game.

851
00:43:41,200 --> 00:43:42,480
Speaker 6: It all depends on the game power.

852
00:43:42,600 --> 00:43:45,359
Speaker 1: Well why is why is it important to be out

853
00:43:45,400 --> 00:43:46,680
Speaker 1: here every week doing this?

854
00:43:47,600 --> 00:43:51,440
Speaker 10: Bills support the bills obviously number one, but it's also

855
00:43:51,800 --> 00:43:54,160
Speaker 10: a great opportunity to be with family and friends and

856
00:43:54,239 --> 00:43:55,680
Speaker 10: carry on the tradition from.

857
00:43:55,560 --> 00:43:58,000
Speaker 1: Year to year. That's awesome, all right, Well, your chili

858
00:43:58,080 --> 00:44:02,400
Speaker 1: is outstanding. The good people at Wegmans who are our

859
00:44:02,440 --> 00:44:07,120
Speaker 1: proud partners in this venture. I'm good right now, but

860
00:44:07,160 --> 00:44:10,200
Speaker 1: I will need it, Yes, but they give us these

861
00:44:10,200 --> 00:44:12,920
Speaker 1: twenty five dollars gift cards since since we eat your food,

862
00:44:12,960 --> 00:44:15,880
Speaker 1: we allow you to fortify and bring the storm on

863
00:44:16,000 --> 00:44:18,360
Speaker 1: your stream. To bring the storm ice cream. Our Wegman's

864
00:44:18,360 --> 00:44:20,399
Speaker 1: friends came along with us this time on the tail

865
00:44:20,680 --> 00:44:24,080
Speaker 1: tailgate tag along and after hot chili, I can't think

866
00:44:24,120 --> 00:44:27,160
Speaker 1: of a better finisher than some bring the storm ice cream,

867
00:44:27,200 --> 00:44:28,880
Speaker 1: so hopefully you've got a cooler.

868
00:44:29,640 --> 00:44:30,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, to keep it cool.

869
00:44:30,600 --> 00:44:32,920
Speaker 1: There's some bowls and spoons from the Wegmans people, so

870
00:44:33,640 --> 00:44:36,200
Speaker 1: chow down you're chili and then chase it with the

871
00:44:36,200 --> 00:44:36,720
Speaker 1: ice cream.

872
00:44:37,120 --> 00:44:39,879
Speaker 2: All right, thanks guys. Hey, it's great meeting. This is awesome. Great.

873
00:44:40,920 --> 00:44:42,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, you guys kill it out here.

874
00:44:43,600 --> 00:45:48,440
Speaker 6: Excellent chili. Thank you for that.

875
00:45:18,760 --> 00:45:23,480
Speaker 2: The awesome.

876
00:45:23,800 --> 00:45:26,319
Speaker 1: Right, we had a few extra people on the tailgate tag.

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Speaker 2: Tailgate tackling is getting big.

878
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Speaker 1: It is getting bigger. We're getting cars getting so the

879
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Speaker 1: good people at Wegmans were joining us. They were handing

880
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Speaker 1: out cold front ice cream to people, so after they

881
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Speaker 1: have dinner they got to have some dessert too, which

882
00:45:39,440 --> 00:45:42,320
Speaker 1: was awesome. And they also were they know how to tailgate.

883
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Speaker 1: They supplied all the bowls and spoons and napkins.

884
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Speaker 2: They know how to come prepare a banner day, bring

885
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Speaker 2: the storm ice cream.

886
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Speaker 1: You'd expect nothing less from your official Bills Tailgate Headquarters.

887
00:45:54,560 --> 00:45:57,879
Speaker 2: Thanks thanks to Wegmans again, it's been great. We'll see

888
00:45:57,880 --> 00:45:58,359
Speaker 2: you next time.

889
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Speaker 1: Yeah, right, you bet, we'll catch an all right. So

890
00:46:01,760 --> 00:46:05,880
Speaker 1: that's the Tailgate Tag Along Edition, Week five, Episode four,

891
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Speaker 1: and thanks again to the people the wegments for bringing

892
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Speaker 1: along the ice cream. I mean they could not have

893
00:46:10,719 --> 00:46:12,520
Speaker 1: Like when they set this up, they said, hey, we're

894
00:46:12,520 --> 00:46:15,040
Speaker 1: gonna come out in week five and then bring an

895
00:46:15,040 --> 00:46:17,600
Speaker 1: ice cream to tie in with the rivalry uniforms and

896
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Speaker 1: bring the storm ice cream and they get an eighty

897
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Speaker 1: five degree day. You could not have asked for a

898
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Speaker 1: better day to be handed out ice cream to people.

899
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Speaker 2: Yeah. People, Yeah, they were happy to happy to get it.

900
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Speaker 2: Fun day out. I'm gaining a new appreciation for how

901
00:46:33,719 --> 00:46:36,040
Speaker 2: enormous the day is. I mean, it's you can do it.

902
00:46:36,040 --> 00:46:38,880
Speaker 2: It's a fact. The more you describe it, it still

903
00:46:38,920 --> 00:46:42,120
Speaker 2: doesn't capture how big an event of Bill's game is.

904
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Speaker 1: And just so it's clear to our radio listeners, at

905
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Speaker 1: the end, you heard a lot of people cheering, and

906
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Speaker 1: that was because Steve and I were asked to participate

907
00:46:50,560 --> 00:46:53,600
Speaker 1: in a dart throwing contest in which we had to

908
00:46:53,640 --> 00:46:58,040
Speaker 1: throw darts toward a wood board with cans mounted on

909
00:46:58,080 --> 00:47:01,240
Speaker 1: the board, and we were trying to lace a dart

910
00:47:01,280 --> 00:47:02,200
Speaker 1: through a can.

911
00:47:02,560 --> 00:47:04,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, you gotta stick the dart in a tin can.

912
00:47:04,960 --> 00:47:07,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, so you got to really put some muscle behind

913
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Speaker 1: I tried three times. I literally scraped the side of

914
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Speaker 1: a can with a dart on my last throw, and

915
00:47:14,840 --> 00:47:17,440
Speaker 1: then Steve threw I think three or four, and on

916
00:47:17,480 --> 00:47:20,080
Speaker 1: your fourth one, you just reared back like a baseball

917
00:47:20,080 --> 00:47:23,040
Speaker 1: pitcher and just talked it. Threw a ball, which had

918
00:47:23,200 --> 00:47:24,399
Speaker 1: a little concern because there.

919
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Speaker 2: Were people, Yeah, we're bystanders, but you laced it man

920
00:47:28,239 --> 00:47:30,319
Speaker 2: on the last one and I put a dent in

921
00:47:30,360 --> 00:47:32,640
Speaker 2: the can, went right through it.

922
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Speaker 1: And then everybody got excited and started chanting Hall of Fame,

923
00:47:34,960 --> 00:47:35,719
Speaker 1: which was kind of cool.

924
00:47:35,760 --> 00:47:36,839
Speaker 2: That was very cool.

925
00:47:36,960 --> 00:47:40,400
Speaker 1: Someday, fun day out there, Absolutely awesome. We do. We

926
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Speaker 1: are gonna be on hiatus for a little bit because

927
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Speaker 1: we don't have another home game until November, which will

928
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Speaker 1: which is when we'll do our next tailgate tag.

929
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Speaker 2: We've already had conversations about how close to the to

930
00:47:52,160 --> 00:47:55,360
Speaker 2: the heaters are the next tailgates gonna be. We're gonna

931
00:47:55,560 --> 00:47:57,439
Speaker 2: right will still be okay and right in a lot

932
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Speaker 2: one here right next to the building.

933
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Speaker 1: I think was they'll be okay, and early we'll find it.

934
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Speaker 2: We should stop by, we should stop by gyms, which

935
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Speaker 2: is right outside our door.

936
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Speaker 1: Here. It is our send us a tweet, tell us

937
00:48:08,400 --> 00:48:13,359
Speaker 1: what you're cooking, man, the meet show up haphazardly that

938
00:48:13,400 --> 00:48:14,440
Speaker 1: we need to know what you're cooking.

939
00:48:14,440 --> 00:48:16,239
Speaker 2: At least that way we can stay warm while we did.

940
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I see I sent an ulterior motive. But thanks

941
00:48:19,640 --> 00:48:21,600
Speaker 1: again to our friends at Wegmans for coming along.

942
00:48:22,040 --> 00:48:22,200
Speaker 2: Uh.

943
00:48:22,200 --> 00:48:24,720
Speaker 1: They are the official tailgate headquarters of the Buffalo Bills

944
00:48:25,040 --> 00:48:28,320
Speaker 1: and a proud partner in our Tuesday tailgate tag along.

945
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Speaker 1: So thanks to them, we got to take a break here.

946
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Speaker 1: But when we come back, our number two is going

947
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Speaker 1: to begin with our good friend Dan Orlowski, ESPN NFL analysts.

948
00:48:37,280 --> 00:48:39,760
Speaker 1: We'll have him chop up some x's and o's from

949
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Speaker 1: the Bills Pats game and look ahead to the Atlanta

950
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Speaker 1: Falcons as well. Next here on One Bill's Live, stay

951
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Speaker 1: with us.

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Speaker 2: This the One Bills Live presented by Calllida Health.

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Speaker 1: All right, back here on a Tuesday edition of One

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Speaker 1: Bill's Live. Chris brown Seed tasker and happy to welcome

955
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Speaker 1: in our weekly visitor, ESPN NFL analyst Dan Orlovsky, whose

956
00:49:38,120 --> 00:49:41,160
Speaker 1: appearances on One Bills Live are presented by Caesar Sportsbook

957
00:49:41,160 --> 00:49:44,520
Speaker 1: and official mobile sports betting partner of the Buffalo Bills.

958
00:49:44,560 --> 00:49:47,840
Speaker 1: And Dan, We're gonna begin with a rehash of Sunday

959
00:49:47,920 --> 00:49:52,560
Speaker 1: Night football, and we kind of saw some of the

960
00:49:52,640 --> 00:49:56,200
Speaker 1: issues coming in the previous two games against the Dolphins

961
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Speaker 1: and the Saints, both double digit wins for the Bills.

962
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Speaker 1: But they get the game Sunday Night, playing against a

963
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Speaker 1: motivated division opponent looking to use this as a measuring

964
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Speaker 1: stick game for them in year one under Mike Rabel,

965
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Speaker 1: and they looked like the more urgent team, I think,

966
00:50:14,520 --> 00:50:18,080
Speaker 1: from start to finish, and they played a cleaner game

967
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Speaker 1: than the Bills. And in the end it's a three

968
00:50:20,640 --> 00:50:24,520
Speaker 1: point win in the dying seconds for New England.

969
00:50:26,200 --> 00:50:26,399
Speaker 11: Yeah.

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Speaker 8: I mean, I think this was to your point, Chris,

971
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Speaker 8: like this was something that you saw had the chance

972
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Speaker 8: to happen because of the lack of you know, dominant

973
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Speaker 8: play in those two weeks. There's also some matchup things

974
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Speaker 8: that you know, I certainly sat there and I was like, hey,

975
00:50:40,560 --> 00:50:44,440
Speaker 8: this this could be an issue for Buffalo. And I

976
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Speaker 8: know you start at the top and you sit there

977
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Speaker 8: and go, well, this is the team that has been

978
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Speaker 8: the best with the football over the last I don't know,

979
00:50:52,400 --> 00:50:56,680
Speaker 8: twenty plus games as far as valuing it offensively, not

980
00:50:56,800 --> 00:50:59,080
Speaker 8: the case. You know, A sloppy fumble in that first

981
00:50:59,160 --> 00:51:01,799
Speaker 8: quarter on the handoff Josh forcing the football in the

982
00:51:01,840 --> 00:51:05,080
Speaker 8: red zone. So that was uncharacteristic, you know when it

983
00:51:05,120 --> 00:51:08,640
Speaker 8: came to that. And then you know they haven't forced

984
00:51:09,400 --> 00:51:11,160
Speaker 8: a ton this year. I know they got I think

985
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Speaker 8: one the other night, and so that's the starting point.

986
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Speaker 8: I think the second thing is you do have to

987
00:51:16,800 --> 00:51:19,800
Speaker 8: credit a little bit to New England. That New England's

988
00:51:19,800 --> 00:51:22,480
Speaker 8: blueprint of how do they wanted to play it was

989
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Speaker 8: really smart. You know I talked about offensively, you know,

990
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Speaker 8: then putting those two tight ends on the field and

991
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Speaker 8: running the football or sometimes two tight ends into full

992
00:51:30,960 --> 00:51:33,600
Speaker 8: back and run the football presents a little bit of

993
00:51:33,600 --> 00:51:35,560
Speaker 8: a problem to Buffalo right now with where they are,

994
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Speaker 8: specifically with head out. I think that New England's saying, hey,

995
00:51:40,400 --> 00:51:42,879
Speaker 8: you're not going to rush the passer and chipping, even

996
00:51:42,880 --> 00:51:46,080
Speaker 8: though Buffalo's pass rush isn't great right now, and given

997
00:51:46,120 --> 00:51:49,560
Speaker 8: those receivers the opportunity to work downfield, it was it

998
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Speaker 8: was a viable thing.

999
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Speaker 1: Now.

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Speaker 8: They made some plays. Drake Drake Mainsteff made some plays,

1001
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Speaker 8: and then I think the events. I guess the thing

1002
00:51:56,160 --> 00:52:00,520
Speaker 8: that most shocked me from Buffalo's offense outside of those aways,

1003
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Speaker 8: that's is one of the most explosive run games in

1004
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Speaker 8: the NFL, and they've been dominant in that they didn't

1005
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Speaker 8: get any, you know, And that was the thing that

1006
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Speaker 8: surprised me the most, that Buffalo just did not generate

1007
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Speaker 8: any explosive runs with their run game in their running

1008
00:52:16,360 --> 00:52:20,040
Speaker 8: back James Cook, not Josh Scrambles. And so it was

1009
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Speaker 8: a very well thought out game plan by New England

1010
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Speaker 8: and absolutely executed well.

1011
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Speaker 2: It certainly wasn't on the Buffalo side of it. When

1012
00:52:27,719 --> 00:52:29,839
Speaker 2: you come out of it, you knew, well, you knew

1013
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Speaker 2: you probably weren't gonna win all seventeen regular season games.

1014
00:52:32,600 --> 00:52:34,799
Speaker 2: At some point you're gonna take one on the chin.

1015
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Speaker 2: But having this one be at home on a night

1016
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Speaker 2: where they had special uniforms, the white out, at home

1017
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Speaker 2: against a division opponent who, on one hand, you'd love

1018
00:52:45,880 --> 00:52:47,799
Speaker 2: to put the division away, have a win over all

1019
00:52:47,840 --> 00:52:50,160
Speaker 2: three of your division rivals and all that. But on

1020
00:52:50,200 --> 00:52:51,279
Speaker 2: the other hand, he knew it was going to be

1021
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Speaker 2: a tussle because of that team. That's a team that

1022
00:52:53,480 --> 00:52:56,400
Speaker 2: knows you is not a fraidie, you don't intimidate. But

1023
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Speaker 2: having said all of that, this is kind of what

1024
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Speaker 2: it's okay to and loss like this, because if you're

1025
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Speaker 2: going to lose, don't lose forty six to six, you know,

1026
00:53:05,120 --> 00:53:07,520
Speaker 2: twenty three to twenty against a team where you feel

1027
00:53:07,520 --> 00:53:09,279
Speaker 2: like you look at the game is like it was us,

1028
00:53:10,239 --> 00:53:13,080
Speaker 2: We're the problem. Wasn't that we're the problem? Those are

1029
00:53:13,080 --> 00:53:15,120
Speaker 2: the kind of losses that are easier to fix and

1030
00:53:15,160 --> 00:53:15,600
Speaker 2: get over.

1031
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Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah, I agree, Steve. I think you could sit

1032
00:53:19,080 --> 00:53:23,959
Speaker 8: there and the way that you have to. Now, you know, Chris,

1033
00:53:24,000 --> 00:53:26,560
Speaker 8: you mentioned they played more urgent. Well, the losses like

1034
00:53:26,600 --> 00:53:29,399
Speaker 8: this will bring urgency back to your locker room, back

1035
00:53:29,400 --> 00:53:31,680
Speaker 8: to your meeting rooms, back to your preparation, back to

1036
00:53:32,000 --> 00:53:34,880
Speaker 8: human beings, right, you know. And so I think the

1037
00:53:34,880 --> 00:53:39,080
Speaker 8: the re emphasis of decision making, re emphasis of valuing

1038
00:53:39,160 --> 00:53:42,000
Speaker 8: the football, reemphasis of trying to take it away, I

1039
00:53:42,040 --> 00:53:45,600
Speaker 8: do think is valuable. I also think it's important to

1040
00:53:45,640 --> 00:53:48,239
Speaker 8: sit there and really attack the things that you're not

1041
00:53:48,320 --> 00:53:51,839
Speaker 8: good at as a football team. And I'm not, you know,

1042
00:53:51,960 --> 00:53:54,319
Speaker 8: throwing stones at a glass house type of thing, but

1043
00:53:54,400 --> 00:53:57,880
Speaker 8: this is a team that certainly has the Super Bowl expectation.

1044
00:53:58,040 --> 00:54:01,120
Speaker 8: And I just put a point like, if they don't

1045
00:54:01,160 --> 00:54:04,200
Speaker 8: figure out ways to be better stopping the run against

1046
00:54:04,200 --> 00:54:07,680
Speaker 8: teams that line up with people and intent to run

1047
00:54:07,719 --> 00:54:11,000
Speaker 8: the football. It's a hard road to get there because

1048
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Speaker 8: I look at the AFC and I look at teams

1049
00:54:12,920 --> 00:54:15,200
Speaker 8: that are capable of doing it and winning it and

1050
00:54:15,239 --> 00:54:17,640
Speaker 8: doing it in a certain style right now. And you know,

1051
00:54:17,640 --> 00:54:20,040
Speaker 8: if the Chargers could get healthy offensively, it'll be then.

1052
00:54:20,080 --> 00:54:23,080
Speaker 8: But it's the Denver Broncos, it's the Indianapolis Colts.

1053
00:54:23,160 --> 00:54:23,480
Speaker 2: Shoot.

1054
00:54:23,520 --> 00:54:25,759
Speaker 8: The Chiefs are doing it more, the Steelers are doing more.

1055
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Speaker 8: And so I think that's one of the big takeaways

1056
00:54:28,600 --> 00:54:32,000
Speaker 8: is you know, they Buffalo is going to have to

1057
00:54:32,080 --> 00:54:34,480
Speaker 8: figure out kind of where they can be or what

1058
00:54:34,560 --> 00:54:36,839
Speaker 8: they can be on defense, because I feel like they're

1059
00:54:36,840 --> 00:54:39,640
Speaker 8: in a little bit of a you know, trying to

1060
00:54:39,640 --> 00:54:42,799
Speaker 8: figure out phase. They're struggling to stop the run and

1061
00:54:42,880 --> 00:54:46,600
Speaker 8: I gain no ed and then they're not getting a

1062
00:54:46,640 --> 00:54:50,600
Speaker 8: ton of pressure in their four man pressure situations. So

1063
00:54:50,719 --> 00:54:53,279
Speaker 8: then they want a pressure and add an extra guy

1064
00:54:53,360 --> 00:54:55,319
Speaker 8: or a fire zone, but then they're not covering great

1065
00:54:55,360 --> 00:54:57,160
Speaker 8: on the back end when they do, And so I

1066
00:54:57,840 --> 00:55:01,080
Speaker 8: think that's they're trying to figure out what's maybe some

1067
00:55:01,120 --> 00:55:02,760
Speaker 8: of their go to stuff on defense.

1068
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Speaker 1: Yeah, And I feel like the reason they're having that

1069
00:55:05,440 --> 00:55:08,600
Speaker 1: problem is another issue they're having. They have a man

1070
00:55:08,719 --> 00:55:12,479
Speaker 1: power problem with all the injuries on the defensive side

1071
00:55:12,480 --> 00:55:15,719
Speaker 1: of the ball. At Oliver doesn't look like Milano's gonna

1072
00:55:15,719 --> 00:55:19,640
Speaker 1: play after reinjuring the peck this week, and then you're

1073
00:55:19,680 --> 00:55:22,680
Speaker 1: trying to get Dorian Williams back as his replacement. Shaq

1074
00:55:22,760 --> 00:55:25,040
Speaker 1: Thompson has been a revelation as a veteran add this

1075
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Speaker 1: offseason and is probably gonna play a lot this week.

1076
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Speaker 1: And then on the back end, you drafted two corners,

1077
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Speaker 1: both of them are on injured reserve, and I think

1078
00:55:33,800 --> 00:55:36,279
Speaker 1: by this point in the season one of them would

1079
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Speaker 1: have already been a starter as your CB two, So

1080
00:55:40,239 --> 00:55:43,319
Speaker 1: you're really limited. You're trying to find answers to your

1081
00:55:43,320 --> 00:55:46,640
Speaker 1: point Dan as to who we are identity wise. Bobby

1082
00:55:46,680 --> 00:55:48,560
Speaker 1: Babbage doesn't have the horses to put on the field

1083
00:55:48,600 --> 00:55:50,840
Speaker 1: to execute any one of those things right now, and

1084
00:55:50,880 --> 00:55:54,080
Speaker 1: I think they're just triaging the defense hoping to get

1085
00:55:54,120 --> 00:55:56,440
Speaker 1: to the bye week here after this game against Atlanta

1086
00:55:56,520 --> 00:55:59,439
Speaker 1: and then reassess and decide do we need to add,

1087
00:55:59,760 --> 00:56:01,160
Speaker 1: who is going to get who are we going to

1088
00:56:01,239 --> 00:56:05,359
Speaker 1: get back. Obviously Michael Hoyt and Larry Ogunjobi are gonna help,

1089
00:56:05,360 --> 00:56:08,080
Speaker 1: but this really has put them in a major state

1090
00:56:08,080 --> 00:56:09,839
Speaker 1: of flux on the defensive side of the ball.

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00:56:09,880 --> 00:56:14,600
Speaker 8: I think, yeah, that's like the perfect way to kind

1092
00:56:14,600 --> 00:56:18,280
Speaker 8: of put it, because I think so often we focus

1093
00:56:18,360 --> 00:56:21,720
Speaker 8: on Buffalo and their offense and because it's been so great,

1094
00:56:22,400 --> 00:56:25,520
Speaker 8: and you know, this this defense, and we talked about

1095
00:56:25,560 --> 00:56:28,920
Speaker 8: it is very much so attached to takeaways, and takeaways

1096
00:56:28,960 --> 00:56:32,000
Speaker 8: often come from people. You know, it's in regards to, like,

1097
00:56:32,440 --> 00:56:35,320
Speaker 8: you know, forcing somebody to do something from an offensive

1098
00:56:35,320 --> 00:56:37,160
Speaker 8: perspective that they don't want to or not ready to

1099
00:56:37,239 --> 00:56:39,279
Speaker 8: or whatnot. And so I just think they're in a

1100
00:56:39,360 --> 00:56:42,399
Speaker 8: tough spot defensively, and you know, I see that they're

1101
00:56:42,400 --> 00:56:44,720
Speaker 8: trying to put base on the deep field at times

1102
00:56:44,760 --> 00:56:47,400
Speaker 8: to handle some of the big bodies with the three linebackers,

1103
00:56:47,400 --> 00:56:49,400
Speaker 8: and Tearn comes off, But is that your best eleven?

1104
00:56:49,840 --> 00:56:52,200
Speaker 8: It turns one of those, but then you're taking a

1105
00:56:52,200 --> 00:56:54,080
Speaker 8: good player off the field. And so yeah, I agree

1106
00:56:54,080 --> 00:56:56,920
Speaker 8: that they're trying to figure some stuff out and it

1107
00:56:57,000 --> 00:56:58,640
Speaker 8: is a little bit of hang on so they can

1108
00:56:58,680 --> 00:57:01,600
Speaker 8: get some reinforcements, but there's also the reality that you

1109
00:57:01,600 --> 00:57:03,920
Speaker 8: want to see everybody playing a little bit better, and

1110
00:57:04,680 --> 00:57:07,960
Speaker 8: you know, it's not the ideal situation, specifically against an

1111
00:57:08,000 --> 00:57:11,120
Speaker 8: Atlanta team that's very good offensively and can run the

1112
00:57:11,120 --> 00:57:15,040
Speaker 8: football big time. And so I think this is a big, big,

1113
00:57:15,120 --> 00:57:17,400
Speaker 8: another big challenge for that defense this week.

1114
00:57:17,520 --> 00:57:19,320
Speaker 2: I wanted to ask you about your assessment. Sometimes we

1115
00:57:19,360 --> 00:57:21,760
Speaker 2: get caught up and it certainly the Bills offense is

1116
00:57:21,920 --> 00:57:24,560
Speaker 2: kind of the engine that runs the show, and it

1117
00:57:25,520 --> 00:57:28,880
Speaker 2: turned it over too much on Sunday Night to really

1118
00:57:29,000 --> 00:57:33,800
Speaker 2: win the game. And the defense is good to a point,

1119
00:57:34,760 --> 00:57:37,080
Speaker 2: and it is good, has been good at getting turnovers,

1120
00:57:37,680 --> 00:57:40,000
Speaker 2: and we always get caught up and you see, well,

1121
00:57:40,040 --> 00:57:41,400
Speaker 2: I don't know if their offense is good enough to

1122
00:57:41,400 --> 00:57:42,960
Speaker 2: win the Super Bowl, And just like you alluded to,

1123
00:57:43,000 --> 00:57:44,480
Speaker 2: I don't know if this defense is good enough to

1124
00:57:44,480 --> 00:57:46,800
Speaker 2: win a super Bowl. But together, the two of them

1125
00:57:46,800 --> 00:57:49,600
Speaker 2: together and the way they play, maybe they are. And

1126
00:57:49,600 --> 00:57:51,480
Speaker 2: they've been certainly been good enough to win a ton

1127
00:57:51,520 --> 00:57:53,240
Speaker 2: of games and to beat any team that they're gonna

1128
00:57:53,240 --> 00:57:56,160
Speaker 2: face down the road. How does that match up? And

1129
00:57:56,480 --> 00:57:58,840
Speaker 2: let's talk about this matchup coming up on Monday night

1130
00:57:59,160 --> 00:58:01,360
Speaker 2: the Buffalo Bills again Alanta. Atlanta a lot of high

1131
00:58:01,440 --> 00:58:03,680
Speaker 2: draft picks, which means they've got some guys that have

1132
00:58:03,840 --> 00:58:07,280
Speaker 2: elite physical traits and like you said, they can run

1133
00:58:07,320 --> 00:58:11,120
Speaker 2: it and they they are a good offense. How does

1134
00:58:11,120 --> 00:58:12,840
Speaker 2: that match up with a team like Buffalo?

1135
00:58:14,400 --> 00:58:16,160
Speaker 8: You know, my honest answer, Stave is this is a

1136
00:58:16,200 --> 00:58:20,040
Speaker 8: good matchup for Atlanta and I'll just start on that

1137
00:58:20,200 --> 00:58:23,400
Speaker 8: side offensively, six first round picks and they're starting eleven

1138
00:58:23,520 --> 00:58:27,160
Speaker 8: seven our first two round picks, top second two round picks.

1139
00:58:27,880 --> 00:58:30,680
Speaker 8: So they're a very talented and very young football team.

1140
00:58:31,200 --> 00:58:35,120
Speaker 8: This is a zone centric run game, meaning they are

1141
00:58:35,120 --> 00:58:37,600
Speaker 8: trying to just run to areas. It's athletic, it's a

1142
00:58:37,600 --> 00:58:41,280
Speaker 8: big offensive line. They'll play with multiple tight ends on

1143
00:58:41,320 --> 00:58:44,960
Speaker 8: the field, and Bijon Robinson is as good as any

1144
00:58:44,960 --> 00:58:46,800
Speaker 8: back in the NFL, as talented as any back in

1145
00:58:46,840 --> 00:58:50,160
Speaker 8: the NFL. They got a slot that's a problem in

1146
00:58:50,240 --> 00:58:54,800
Speaker 8: Drake London. He's big, he's physical, he's smart, he catches everything.

1147
00:58:55,440 --> 00:58:58,320
Speaker 8: Mooney if he plays, is a big time vertical threat.

1148
00:58:58,400 --> 00:59:01,520
Speaker 8: And so there's a lot that this all offense offers you.

1149
00:59:01,920 --> 00:59:03,760
Speaker 8: They love to live in the pistol, they love to

1150
00:59:03,800 --> 00:59:06,400
Speaker 8: live in the shotgun. Are there some tendencies and tells

1151
00:59:06,640 --> 00:59:09,919
Speaker 8: from that that Buffalo could take advantage of. I believe

1152
00:59:10,000 --> 00:59:13,040
Speaker 8: there is the quarterback doesn't move around a lot, you know,

1153
00:59:13,120 --> 00:59:15,640
Speaker 8: because of that style that he's he's more often than

1154
00:59:15,680 --> 00:59:18,280
Speaker 8: not in that central location of shotgun or pistol, catch

1155
00:59:18,320 --> 00:59:20,880
Speaker 8: the snap rocket arm could throw it down the field

1156
00:59:20,960 --> 00:59:24,400
Speaker 8: big time, but doesn't move a lot. Again, are there

1157
00:59:24,440 --> 00:59:27,000
Speaker 8: tendencies and tells that you could take advantage of. Bijon

1158
00:59:27,080 --> 00:59:30,000
Speaker 8: has got ridiculous vision. They try to get him the

1159
00:59:30,000 --> 00:59:32,040
Speaker 8: ball as much as possible. They're gonna line them up

1160
00:59:32,040 --> 00:59:34,000
Speaker 8: in the slot, They're gonna line them up in the backfield.

1161
00:59:34,040 --> 00:59:35,560
Speaker 8: They're gonna hand it off to them, they're gonna throw

1162
00:59:35,560 --> 00:59:37,560
Speaker 8: it to them, they're gonna screen it to them. You know,

1163
00:59:37,560 --> 00:59:39,720
Speaker 8: you're talking about a twenty five touch a game guy.

1164
00:59:39,840 --> 00:59:43,280
Speaker 8: He's he's as dynamic, and he's their version of like

1165
00:59:43,320 --> 00:59:47,640
Speaker 8: a McCaffrey and his heyday, tremendous player. And so they're

1166
00:59:47,680 --> 00:59:49,440
Speaker 8: and they're a very good run team. And so I

1167
00:59:49,560 --> 00:59:52,920
Speaker 8: think that that's a huge, huge, huge, huge part of

1168
00:59:52,920 --> 00:59:56,200
Speaker 8: this game. And then you know, defensively, they're young. They've

1169
00:59:56,240 --> 00:59:58,800
Speaker 8: got edge rushers that are talented that are putting it

1170
00:59:58,800 --> 01:00:03,040
Speaker 8: all together. Really good linebacker and ellis there. They've got

1171
01:00:03,040 --> 01:00:05,560
Speaker 8: some young pieces in their secondary wats out of Notre

1172
01:00:05,640 --> 01:00:10,000
Speaker 8: Dames a ballhawk, and so it's a defense that has

1173
01:00:10,080 --> 01:00:13,080
Speaker 8: played better at times but still is not the strength

1174
01:00:13,080 --> 01:00:16,440
Speaker 8: of the football team. But you know this, this feels

1175
01:00:16,480 --> 01:00:18,320
Speaker 8: like it could be a high scoring football game.

1176
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Speaker 1: Yeah. And it's strange because you know, you look at

1177
01:00:21,800 --> 01:00:25,240
Speaker 1: the statistics for Atlanta and they're the number one total

1178
01:00:25,280 --> 01:00:29,600
Speaker 1: defense in football after you know, five weeks. Granted they

1179
01:00:29,600 --> 01:00:33,760
Speaker 1: had to buy last week, but you look at their

1180
01:00:33,800 --> 01:00:36,480
Speaker 1: results and they look like a very up and down team.

1181
01:00:36,600 --> 01:00:38,760
Speaker 1: I know, they've been unlucky at the end of games

1182
01:00:38,920 --> 01:00:41,720
Speaker 1: zero to two and one score games. Yeah, the week

1183
01:00:41,760 --> 01:00:44,160
Speaker 1: one game against Tampa, and then a couple of weeks

1184
01:00:44,160 --> 01:00:46,200
Speaker 1: ago they lost a tight one as well, and then

1185
01:00:46,240 --> 01:00:49,600
Speaker 1: the other games are blowouts, Like they get shut out

1186
01:00:49,640 --> 01:00:52,200
Speaker 1: by a division opponent thirty to nothing. Like help me

1187
01:00:52,240 --> 01:00:54,120
Speaker 1: with that one, Like what are they? Yeah?

1188
01:00:55,480 --> 01:00:57,360
Speaker 8: Yeah, I think that's part of the youth of their

1189
01:00:57,400 --> 01:01:01,600
Speaker 8: team and specifically their offense. You know, it's it's a

1190
01:01:02,400 --> 01:01:05,360
Speaker 8: group that you know, you go back to Week one,

1191
01:01:05,480 --> 01:01:08,040
Speaker 8: they're playing at home against Tampa. Yeah, and they get

1192
01:01:08,040 --> 01:01:10,720
Speaker 8: beat essentially in the last play. Obviously Tampa, excuse me,

1193
01:01:10,720 --> 01:01:12,680
Speaker 8: a very good football team. They go on the road

1194
01:01:12,680 --> 01:01:15,840
Speaker 8: to Week two, they catch Minnesota at a buzz from

1195
01:01:15,920 --> 01:01:18,880
Speaker 8: the defense is sensational. JJ McCarthy doesn't play great. Week

1196
01:01:18,960 --> 01:01:23,000
Speaker 8: three they looked terrible against Carolina, and then week four

1197
01:01:23,080 --> 01:01:25,720
Speaker 8: they caught it a Washington team and they played really well.

1198
01:01:25,720 --> 01:01:27,560
Speaker 8: They made some big plays, and I don't think Washington's

1199
01:01:27,640 --> 01:01:30,160
Speaker 8: great on defense, and so it's a little bit of

1200
01:01:30,160 --> 01:01:32,680
Speaker 8: a roller coaster ride against some of the youth. I

1201
01:01:32,720 --> 01:01:34,720
Speaker 8: think there is a reality too, like they've moved their

1202
01:01:34,720 --> 01:01:37,360
Speaker 8: play callers Zach Robinson down from the field or from

1203
01:01:37,400 --> 01:01:40,160
Speaker 8: the booth to the field. You know, they're trying to

1204
01:01:40,200 --> 01:01:43,560
Speaker 8: figure out whup Pennix's as a quarterback. Kyle Pitts is emergence.

1205
01:01:43,640 --> 01:01:46,440
Speaker 8: So I just think there's a lot of still they're

1206
01:01:46,440 --> 01:01:51,360
Speaker 8: on a journey of identity and what in many ways,

1207
01:01:50,440 --> 01:01:53,600
Speaker 8: but it's it's a it's a talented group, Chris. It's

1208
01:01:53,640 --> 01:01:56,959
Speaker 8: a very very talented football team that can be very good.

1209
01:01:57,280 --> 01:01:59,439
Speaker 2: And you saw it with the with the win, looking

1210
01:01:59,480 --> 01:02:01,920
Speaker 2: as good as they could look in Minnesota looking as

1211
01:02:01,960 --> 01:02:05,600
Speaker 2: bad as they could look the next week, and you're right,

1212
01:02:06,120 --> 01:02:08,160
Speaker 2: that does speak to their youth. Do you see it

1213
01:02:08,240 --> 01:02:10,480
Speaker 2: on the field and in any way shape or form

1214
01:02:10,480 --> 01:02:12,640
Speaker 2: where their youth really kind of like.

1215
01:02:12,640 --> 01:02:15,840
Speaker 1: The inexperience and just probably in the red zone, yeah,

1216
01:02:15,880 --> 01:02:17,640
Speaker 1: being they're not good in the red zone on offense

1217
01:02:17,760 --> 01:02:18,320
Speaker 1: or defense.

1218
01:02:18,520 --> 01:02:23,560
Speaker 8: Yeah yeah, yeah, So I think, you know, with offensively,

1219
01:02:24,640 --> 01:02:26,840
Speaker 8: you know, I'm of the belief right now that like

1220
01:02:26,880 --> 01:02:28,560
Speaker 8: I just don't think you can live in the gun

1221
01:02:28,560 --> 01:02:31,080
Speaker 8: and pistol as much as they do. I'm not against it,

1222
01:02:31,120 --> 01:02:33,000
Speaker 8: but they're in it a lot. They don't use quarterback

1223
01:02:33,080 --> 01:02:35,200
Speaker 8: run out of it. So I think that as you

1224
01:02:35,240 --> 01:02:37,280
Speaker 8: get down into the red zone and that field shrinks

1225
01:02:37,280 --> 01:02:39,880
Speaker 8: and they can shrink defensively a little bit more. I

1226
01:02:39,960 --> 01:02:42,720
Speaker 8: just think there's a little bit of you know, boxing

1227
01:02:42,760 --> 01:02:46,560
Speaker 8: yourself in schematically to that. And when they're a zone

1228
01:02:46,640 --> 01:02:49,160
Speaker 8: run scheme and a really an outside zone run scheme,

1229
01:02:49,600 --> 01:02:51,800
Speaker 8: you got to think about it. Like my whole point

1230
01:02:51,840 --> 01:02:54,200
Speaker 8: has been this, you're gonna see Beijon get the ball

1231
01:02:54,200 --> 01:02:56,520
Speaker 8: in a handoff like eight yards from the line of scrimmage.

1232
01:02:57,040 --> 01:02:59,000
Speaker 8: You got to get an eight yard run to get positive,

1233
01:02:59,080 --> 01:03:01,680
Speaker 8: you know, and and so again, very good run game,

1234
01:03:01,720 --> 01:03:03,480
Speaker 8: I just think. So I think there's a little bit

1235
01:03:03,480 --> 01:03:06,600
Speaker 8: of that in the red zone. You know that Mooney

1236
01:03:06,720 --> 01:03:09,880
Speaker 8: hasn't played every game this year, London's been really good.

1237
01:03:10,360 --> 01:03:12,440
Speaker 8: You know, there's there's not a lot of variance in

1238
01:03:12,480 --> 01:03:14,360
Speaker 8: their offense in the red zone. There's not a ton

1239
01:03:14,400 --> 01:03:17,240
Speaker 8: of play action to their offense right now, and so

1240
01:03:17,360 --> 01:03:21,240
Speaker 8: I think that is the reality. And then defensively, you know,

1241
01:03:21,320 --> 01:03:23,680
Speaker 8: it's a again, it's a good defense. I don't think

1242
01:03:23,720 --> 01:03:28,360
Speaker 8: they played dominant style. They're not super active defensively, and

1243
01:03:28,480 --> 01:03:31,360
Speaker 8: so there's there's been some pieces that they're trying to

1244
01:03:31,400 --> 01:03:35,240
Speaker 8: figure out, Who's who's the opposite corner opposite AJ Terrell.

1245
01:03:35,560 --> 01:03:37,280
Speaker 8: Do they need to get Watts on the field a

1246
01:03:37,280 --> 01:03:39,520
Speaker 8: little bit more? And so I think they're just figuring

1247
01:03:39,560 --> 01:03:42,040
Speaker 8: out some pieces on their football team to try to

1248
01:03:42,040 --> 01:03:43,160
Speaker 8: get more consistency.

1249
01:03:43,320 --> 01:03:45,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, So the one thing that I did

1250
01:03:45,360 --> 01:03:49,840
Speaker 1: want to focus on the two pass rushers, Pierce and Walker.

1251
01:03:50,080 --> 01:03:51,880
Speaker 1: Like Jalen Walker is one of my favorite players in

1252
01:03:51,880 --> 01:03:54,800
Speaker 1: the entire draft class. I love that gas, super duper

1253
01:03:55,040 --> 01:03:58,120
Speaker 1: leader on top of all the physical talent that he

1254
01:03:58,200 --> 01:03:59,600
Speaker 1: brings to the table. I know he's not going to

1255
01:03:59,640 --> 01:04:02,160
Speaker 1: be a huge leader as a rookie, but those two

1256
01:04:02,200 --> 01:04:06,720
Speaker 1: guys are forced multipliers working together. It's a road atmosphere.

1257
01:04:06,800 --> 01:04:10,480
Speaker 1: The Bills have two outstanding tackles in Dawkins and Brown.

1258
01:04:11,120 --> 01:04:15,400
Speaker 1: But I would say if if their biggest challenges when

1259
01:04:15,440 --> 01:04:18,920
Speaker 1: they play in games matchup wise are often with bend

1260
01:04:18,920 --> 01:04:22,560
Speaker 1: the edge speed guys, And that's what these two guys are.

1261
01:04:24,160 --> 01:04:26,440
Speaker 1: You know, you're going on silent count in a dome

1262
01:04:26,560 --> 01:04:29,840
Speaker 1: the whole game, Like what do you see there? And

1263
01:04:30,200 --> 01:04:32,880
Speaker 1: what might the Bills have to do to kind of

1264
01:04:32,880 --> 01:04:35,280
Speaker 1: combat that if it becomes an issue.

1265
01:04:36,240 --> 01:04:38,960
Speaker 8: Yeah, I would tell you number one. Obviously, make sure

1266
01:04:38,960 --> 01:04:41,840
Speaker 8: that they're in good situations because both those guys now walkers,

1267
01:04:42,520 --> 01:04:44,880
Speaker 8: I don't want to say much better, but definitely better

1268
01:04:45,000 --> 01:04:47,800
Speaker 8: versus the run than Pierce. Yeah, and so I think

1269
01:04:47,840 --> 01:04:49,880
Speaker 8: you want to make sure that Pierce becomes a guy

1270
01:04:49,920 --> 01:04:51,360
Speaker 8: that you, Hey, you got to stop the run. You

1271
01:04:51,400 --> 01:04:53,200
Speaker 8: got to be willing to set the edge in this game.

1272
01:04:53,240 --> 01:04:55,720
Speaker 8: If if I was Buffalo'd run a lot at Pierce

1273
01:04:55,920 --> 01:04:59,000
Speaker 8: less at Walker. So that's step number one. I think

1274
01:04:59,040 --> 01:05:01,919
Speaker 8: step number two is when you're in these passing situations.

1275
01:05:02,160 --> 01:05:03,880
Speaker 8: It's a little bit like New England did. If you

1276
01:05:03,920 --> 01:05:06,640
Speaker 8: go back to that game, there was there was always

1277
01:05:07,200 --> 01:05:09,840
Speaker 8: a ship on the edges, there was always a tight end,

1278
01:05:09,880 --> 01:05:12,320
Speaker 8: there a back there Two guys out of the backfield,

1279
01:05:12,320 --> 01:05:15,240
Speaker 8: and so I think making sure that not allowing those

1280
01:05:15,360 --> 01:05:18,440
Speaker 8: rushers to get their jump off the snap count and

1281
01:05:18,480 --> 01:05:20,919
Speaker 8: speed rush those tackles will be a very big deal.

1282
01:05:21,120 --> 01:05:24,320
Speaker 8: I think early downs yard after the catch against something

1283
01:05:24,360 --> 01:05:26,520
Speaker 8: that wasn't great this past week, I would tell you

1284
01:05:26,600 --> 01:05:29,200
Speaker 8: that they didn't block as well in the perimeter as

1285
01:05:29,200 --> 01:05:31,360
Speaker 8: they have in the past. So I think those are

1286
01:05:31,680 --> 01:05:34,640
Speaker 8: massive focal points when it comes to like making sure

1287
01:05:34,640 --> 01:05:38,160
Speaker 8: that you don't live in those obvious passing situations and

1288
01:05:38,200 --> 01:05:39,720
Speaker 8: allow those rushers to get going.

1289
01:05:40,120 --> 01:05:43,080
Speaker 2: What about their ability to stop the Bills run game? Now,

1290
01:05:43,360 --> 01:05:46,440
Speaker 2: it felt like the New England Patriots really stymied the

1291
01:05:46,440 --> 01:05:48,000
Speaker 2: Bills and their attempts to run. And then you look

1292
01:05:48,000 --> 01:05:50,040
Speaker 2: and the Bills had one hundred and eighteen yards rushing,

1293
01:05:50,360 --> 01:05:53,080
Speaker 2: although something was by Josh fifty of it. Yeah, so

1294
01:05:54,000 --> 01:05:56,800
Speaker 2: it really felt like the Bills went dead in the

1295
01:05:56,840 --> 01:05:59,520
Speaker 2: water in their run game, which has been really good

1296
01:05:59,600 --> 01:06:00,320
Speaker 2: up to that point.

1297
01:06:01,280 --> 01:06:05,280
Speaker 8: Yeah. So Atlanta defensively, like I would tell you, I

1298
01:06:05,280 --> 01:06:07,760
Speaker 8: don't think that they're elie. I'm getting back to some

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Speaker 8: of these notes that I had from their Washington game.

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Speaker 8: Like you know, I think one of the things that

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Speaker 8: they do defensively that is good is they present a

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Speaker 8: lot of different fronts to the offense. They'll line up

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Speaker 8: in a four man front, They'll line up in a

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Speaker 8: three man front. So you know, identification on the road

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Speaker 8: is going to be important. You know with this run game,

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Speaker 8: there's I talked about how this run game is incredibly diverse.

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Speaker 8: This might be a week where you're not as diverse

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Speaker 8: because you don't want to be calling all these different

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Speaker 8: runs and you know, having your offensive line to constantly

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Speaker 8: communicate dependent upon what the front is, what the identification is,

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Speaker 8: and then you get two guys blocking nobody and you

1312
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Speaker 8: get an unblocked defender. Right, so maybe there's a little

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Speaker 8: bit of simplication simplification on the road. Uh, you gotta

1314
01:06:48,840 --> 01:06:51,080
Speaker 8: you gotta walk block walker in the run game, and

1315
01:06:51,120 --> 01:06:53,800
Speaker 8: you gotta block their linebacker, Katian Ellis, Katie and Ellis

1316
01:06:53,800 --> 01:06:56,000
Speaker 8: will probably remind a lot of Bills fans of a

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01:06:56,000 --> 01:07:00,440
Speaker 8: young Matt Milano. He's a very athletic player, he's great

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01:07:00,520 --> 01:07:04,920
Speaker 8: avoiding blocks, an elite blitzer, elite blitzer and so like.

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Speaker 8: That will be a huge storyline as well as who

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Speaker 8: do they have responsible for picking up Ellis when he's

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01:07:10,680 --> 01:07:13,400
Speaker 8: a pressure guy, is an offensive lineman, it is a

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01:07:13,480 --> 01:07:17,280
Speaker 8: back and there's there's there's plays to be had out

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Speaker 8: there though, Steve, like I would tell you, it's a

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Speaker 8: secondary that is very talented. They like to make plays though,

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Speaker 8: and I think that you know, as an offense, you

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Speaker 8: can use that if at the right time to your advantage.

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Speaker 1: All right, that's anything. Finally, on special teams, I know

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Speaker 1: they have a veteran returner in Agnew. Their their kicker

1329
01:07:36,560 --> 01:07:39,800
Speaker 1: situation was a little bit in flux. They they made

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Speaker 1: the move to John Parker Romo and off they go there.

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01:07:44,840 --> 01:07:46,840
Speaker 1: I mean, the Bills are on their third punter already,

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01:07:46,880 --> 01:07:48,720
Speaker 1: so it's not like they haven't had some changes to

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Speaker 1: make either. Anything to make of Agnew thus far on

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Speaker 1: returns knowing that you know, returns are back in the game.

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Speaker 8: Now, yeah, I mean he's a Pro bowler. Agnews has

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01:08:00,960 --> 01:08:02,840
Speaker 8: a history of being a Pro Bowl returner, and so

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01:08:03,440 --> 01:08:06,040
Speaker 8: you know, I think that we're starting to see not

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01:08:06,120 --> 01:08:08,720
Speaker 8: only returns, Chris, but like special teams just be a

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Speaker 8: massive part of the NFL season.

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Speaker 1: This guy's really happy we talked about Yeah.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, I think it's good for the league. I think

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01:08:15,440 --> 01:08:18,280
Speaker 8: it's good for the league. So you know, I think

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01:08:18,320 --> 01:08:22,599
Speaker 8: that Agnew hasn't you know, necessarily popped it just yet.

1344
01:08:22,600 --> 01:08:25,519
Speaker 8: But I really expect this to be a close football game.

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01:08:25,560 --> 01:08:29,519
Speaker 8: I do, and I obviously close football games are return

1346
01:08:29,600 --> 01:08:33,040
Speaker 8: there a block here, something like that has massive impact.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree, I agree. Good stuff.

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Speaker 1: All right, damn, thanks as always for the insight. We

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01:08:37,360 --> 01:08:39,719
Speaker 1: appreciate it. I'll see you down there in the atl

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Speaker 1: because you're doing this game on ESPN, Yes, sir Chris

1351
01:08:42,720 --> 01:08:46,040
Speaker 1: Vowler and Lewis Riddick, so we look forward to seeing

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Speaker 1: you down there for the Monday night double header. Thanks

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01:08:47,920 --> 01:08:48,320
Speaker 1: very much.

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01:08:49,200 --> 01:08:49,880
Speaker 8: Good to be if you guys.

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Speaker 11: Thanks guys.

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Speaker 1: All right, that's Dan Orlowski, ESPN NFL analyst. And as

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01:08:53,360 --> 01:08:58,519
Speaker 1: we said, it's an ESPN ABC Monday Night football double header.

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01:08:58,840 --> 01:09:02,519
Speaker 1: The Bills and Falcons will play at seven fifteen, So

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01:09:02,760 --> 01:09:06,240
Speaker 1: be aware that Monday Night football, when it's a standalone

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01:09:06,280 --> 01:09:08,960
Speaker 1: game is an eight to fifteen or eight twenty start.

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Speaker 1: Because it's a double header, the Bills and Falcons will

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Speaker 1: start an hour earlier. I believe it's a seven to

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01:09:14,160 --> 01:09:15,320
Speaker 1: fifteen kickoff.

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Speaker 2: Right right, that's what the schedule does say.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, so seven to fifteen kickoff there for Bills Falcons.

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01:09:21,320 --> 01:09:23,200
Speaker 1: So just make a note of that. I'd hate to

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Speaker 1: have you turn the TV on here in Buffalo on

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Speaker 1: Monday night at eight fifteen and we're already, you know,

1369
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Speaker 1: almost through the first score.

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Speaker 2: It's seven to fifteen PM.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, So but yeah, I'm telling you, Steve, I'm kind

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01:09:35,840 --> 01:09:38,160
Speaker 1: of with Dan. There are a lot of matchups on

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01:09:38,240 --> 01:09:41,200
Speaker 1: defense that I just do not like for the Bills.

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01:09:41,360 --> 01:09:44,440
Speaker 2: Like you said, there's six guys or six guys.

1375
01:09:44,120 --> 01:09:46,439
Speaker 1: First round, first round picks on offense alone.

1376
01:09:46,560 --> 01:09:50,400
Speaker 2: What that tells you is they're big, strong, fast, and athletic, and.

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Speaker 1: They're all at the skill positions. Yeah, Bijon Pennix, pits

1378
01:09:54,640 --> 01:09:57,360
Speaker 1: Drake London, and then I think one of their tackles

1379
01:09:57,400 --> 01:09:58,439
Speaker 1: is a first rounder, so.

1380
01:10:00,200 --> 01:10:00,960
Speaker 2: Use it to tackle.

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01:10:01,040 --> 01:10:04,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's those are some matchups that just because And

1382
01:10:04,800 --> 01:10:08,160
Speaker 1: the reason why I'm concerned is because of the point

1383
01:10:08,200 --> 01:10:10,559
Speaker 1: I made to Dan, this defense is in a state

1384
01:10:10,600 --> 01:10:14,439
Speaker 1: of flux, because of their lack of manpower. They just

1385
01:10:14,439 --> 01:10:17,840
Speaker 1: don't have enough guys right now healthy to put on

1386
01:10:17,880 --> 01:10:21,240
Speaker 1: the field and feel good about your matchups across the board.

1387
01:10:21,360 --> 01:10:25,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, they they don't have all their the bullets in

1388
01:10:25,040 --> 01:10:27,320
Speaker 2: their gun, you know. I mean they're they're without guys

1389
01:10:27,360 --> 01:10:30,559
Speaker 2: they thought were gonna be real contributors. And even early

1390
01:10:30,600 --> 01:10:34,839
Speaker 2: in the season when Dorian Strong was starting to platoon

1391
01:10:34,920 --> 01:10:41,240
Speaker 2: with Tredeavius. Now he's hurt and on ir so it's yeah,

1392
01:10:41,600 --> 01:10:44,000
Speaker 2: they're really trying to figure out how they're gonna put

1393
01:10:44,000 --> 01:10:45,960
Speaker 2: together a game plan. It's got to be it can't

1394
01:10:46,000 --> 01:10:47,160
Speaker 2: just be light. We're gonna go out there with these

1395
01:10:47,200 --> 01:10:50,360
Speaker 2: eleven guys, because you're gonna have to have fifteen or

1396
01:10:50,479 --> 01:10:53,599
Speaker 2: sixteen guys ready to play. And that's if you don't

1397
01:10:54,400 --> 01:10:56,960
Speaker 2: rotate for defensive linemen in and out of the game.

1398
01:10:57,800 --> 01:10:59,559
Speaker 2: You know, if you're gonna do that, you gotta have

1399
01:10:59,880 --> 01:11:03,200
Speaker 2: a eighteen or nineteen guys on point to go all

1400
01:11:03,240 --> 01:11:05,559
Speaker 2: the different personnel packages that you have to defend with

1401
01:11:05,600 --> 01:11:09,280
Speaker 2: the right athletes. It's a problem. It's a real problem

1402
01:11:09,280 --> 01:11:12,080
Speaker 2: for this defense right now. They did They had Yeoman's

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01:11:12,160 --> 01:11:16,240
Speaker 2: work this last weekend, even in a loss, holding a

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01:11:16,280 --> 01:11:18,799
Speaker 2: team to twenty three points. With that kind of injury problem,

1405
01:11:19,080 --> 01:11:20,840
Speaker 2: particularly when you lose, you know, a guy in the

1406
01:11:20,840 --> 01:11:25,320
Speaker 2: middle of the game, like Milano, they're doing they're doing

1407
01:11:25,360 --> 01:11:28,679
Speaker 2: Yeomen's work, but it's not easy, and sooner or later

1408
01:11:28,720 --> 01:11:32,080
Speaker 2: teams are going to decipher the problems and take advantage.

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01:11:31,640 --> 01:11:34,160
Speaker 1: Of it or the deficiencies, right, because I mean you're

1410
01:11:34,200 --> 01:11:36,840
Speaker 1: just thinking from a pure matchup perspective, and I realize

1411
01:11:36,840 --> 01:11:38,720
Speaker 1: we got to get to a break here. But you know,

1412
01:11:38,880 --> 01:11:42,559
Speaker 1: London plays in the slot a lot. He's a big slot, right,

1413
01:11:42,640 --> 01:11:44,840
Speaker 1: can tear and handle a guy that tall. I mean

1414
01:11:44,920 --> 01:11:48,200
Speaker 1: he's like six three, two hundred and fifteen pounds. And

1415
01:11:48,240 --> 01:11:50,720
Speaker 1: I love Taran and he's a dog, But is that

1416
01:11:50,800 --> 01:11:52,960
Speaker 1: the best matchup? And then you got Mooney on the

1417
01:11:53,000 --> 01:11:56,760
Speaker 1: outside who stretches the field? Is that the Benford assignment?

1418
01:11:57,000 --> 01:11:59,120
Speaker 1: And does he just hang with him the whole game?

1419
01:11:59,520 --> 01:12:01,719
Speaker 1: And you leave Trey with Ray Ray McCloud or whoever

1420
01:12:01,720 --> 01:12:04,240
Speaker 1: else they're putting on the field a receiver, And then

1421
01:12:04,240 --> 01:12:06,800
Speaker 1: you have Pits at tight end and you don't have

1422
01:12:06,880 --> 01:12:09,400
Speaker 1: Milano this week. He's usually a matchup for tight ends

1423
01:12:09,439 --> 01:12:12,479
Speaker 1: at times in coverage and he's not an option for you,

1424
01:12:12,560 --> 01:12:17,639
Speaker 1: So you could use Bernard sure, and then Bijon, who's

1425
01:12:17,680 --> 01:12:21,839
Speaker 1: the number one priority, Like everybody's gonna be focused on Bijon,

1426
01:12:21,920 --> 01:12:23,920
Speaker 1: and you got other matchups that you're gonna have to

1427
01:12:23,960 --> 01:12:26,280
Speaker 1: trust guys in one on one situations, and we saw

1428
01:12:26,280 --> 01:12:27,280
Speaker 1: how that went last week.

1429
01:12:27,400 --> 01:12:29,679
Speaker 2: Right, that's right, it didn't go well.

1430
01:12:29,800 --> 01:12:32,040
Speaker 1: It did not go And these guys have more weapons

1431
01:12:32,040 --> 01:12:33,439
Speaker 1: than the Patriots.

1432
01:12:32,960 --> 01:12:37,640
Speaker 2: And if perhaps if Ed Oliver's on the field, that

1433
01:12:37,640 --> 01:12:41,080
Speaker 2: would be welcome. Maybe your front gets a little better,

1434
01:12:41,080 --> 01:12:44,400
Speaker 2: you get a little more pressure on a handful of occasions,

1435
01:12:44,720 --> 01:12:46,559
Speaker 2: maybe you stop the run a little better, but you're

1436
01:12:46,560 --> 01:12:48,320
Speaker 2: in a better You're gets a better run game this

1437
01:12:48,320 --> 01:12:50,679
Speaker 2: week than you were last week and a better running back.

1438
01:12:51,800 --> 01:12:54,720
Speaker 2: So you know, it comes out to.

1439
01:12:54,720 --> 01:12:58,160
Speaker 1: Us a lash. There's a lot to keep under rats.

1440
01:12:58,080 --> 01:13:01,120
Speaker 2: Very a very rare for the Bills. You don't go

1441
01:13:01,160 --> 01:13:03,680
Speaker 2: against this team, you don't get you know, with you know,

1442
01:13:03,760 --> 01:13:07,240
Speaker 2: different head coaching stuff as well. So yeah, there's a

1443
01:13:07,280 --> 01:13:11,280
Speaker 2: lot in this game that presents an extra degree of

1444
01:13:11,280 --> 01:13:14,559
Speaker 2: difficulty for the Bills preparing for it, both on the

1445
01:13:14,560 --> 01:13:17,080
Speaker 2: Bills side of things and on the Atlanta side of that.

1446
01:13:17,160 --> 01:13:19,960
Speaker 1: I mean, they're the number one total defense in football,

1447
01:13:20,320 --> 01:13:23,840
Speaker 1: they're the number one passing defense in football, and they're

1448
01:13:23,880 --> 01:13:27,759
Speaker 1: also sixth in the league defensively on third down. On offense,

1449
01:13:27,920 --> 01:13:31,160
Speaker 1: they're the number seven offense in football. They're the number

1450
01:13:31,200 --> 01:13:35,320
Speaker 1: six rushing offense in football, and on third down they

1451
01:13:35,360 --> 01:13:38,200
Speaker 1: are number ten in the league in conversions. The only

1452
01:13:38,240 --> 01:13:41,160
Speaker 1: place where they struggle is in the red zone. And

1453
01:13:41,320 --> 01:13:44,559
Speaker 1: I think that's what's kind of compromised their effectiveness because

1454
01:13:44,600 --> 01:13:47,960
Speaker 1: they only average twenty one and a half points again

1455
01:13:48,040 --> 01:13:49,920
Speaker 1: or nineteen points a game on offense. They give up

1456
01:13:49,960 --> 01:13:52,439
Speaker 1: twenty one and a half on defense. So they're not

1457
01:13:52,479 --> 01:13:55,439
Speaker 1: a juggernaut in terms of point production. But this is

1458
01:13:55,479 --> 01:13:58,639
Speaker 1: a team that has probably four guys that on any

1459
01:13:58,720 --> 01:14:01,759
Speaker 1: given play could go forty plus yards for a score.

1460
01:14:02,240 --> 01:14:03,800
Speaker 1: Right that, Like, they don't even need to score in

1461
01:14:03,800 --> 01:14:04,160
Speaker 1: the ring.

1462
01:14:04,280 --> 01:14:05,880
Speaker 2: The only time the thing you might be able to

1463
01:14:05,920 --> 01:14:08,880
Speaker 2: make some their sixteenth in the league, middle of the

1464
01:14:08,880 --> 01:14:11,719
Speaker 2: pack in the league. You run defense. Yeah, they're number

1465
01:14:11,720 --> 01:14:14,280
Speaker 2: one in passing yards per game, passing yards per play,

1466
01:14:15,479 --> 01:14:18,120
Speaker 2: they're number one in total yards a game. I mean,

1467
01:14:18,160 --> 01:14:22,599
Speaker 2: it's hard to move the football on them. That's that's

1468
01:14:22,600 --> 01:14:23,200
Speaker 2: where it starts.

1469
01:14:23,320 --> 01:14:26,040
Speaker 1: I think this this is a this is a sneaky

1470
01:14:26,080 --> 01:14:30,080
Speaker 1: difficult game for the Bills and they I think it

1471
01:14:30,160 --> 01:14:33,720
Speaker 1: might turn into a shootout. And you gotta hope the

1472
01:14:33,760 --> 01:14:37,080
Speaker 1: Bills are back on the point. Yeah, back on point offensively,

1473
01:14:37,080 --> 01:14:39,880
Speaker 1: which I think they will be. But this is I

1474
01:14:39,920 --> 01:14:41,400
Speaker 1: think this is gonna be. This has a chance to

1475
01:14:41,439 --> 01:14:44,360
Speaker 1: be a ping pong match, Yeah, it does. Gotta take

1476
01:14:44,360 --> 01:14:46,960
Speaker 1: a break here, more coming your way. We'll check out

1477
01:14:47,000 --> 01:14:48,920
Speaker 1: the tweet sheet and see if anybody's on the phone

1478
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Speaker 1: lines at eight h three oh five fifty one eighty

1479
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Speaker 1: eight five fifty two five fifty when we return here

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Speaker 1: on one Bill's line presented by Collide Health, It's s

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Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills Radio Game Day mentality is presented by Best Self,

1482
01:15:15,200 --> 01:15:19,240
Speaker 1: Best Self Behavioral Health, official mental health partner of the

1483
01:15:19,280 --> 01:15:23,320
Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills and Steve coming off a loss, you heard

1484
01:15:23,400 --> 01:15:28,280
Speaker 1: Dan reference it, it's easier to capture that sense of urgency.

1485
01:15:29,120 --> 01:15:31,400
Speaker 1: But this is a road atmosphere, first road game in

1486
01:15:31,479 --> 01:15:35,080
Speaker 1: a month for the Bills. What does the mentality have

1487
01:15:35,160 --> 01:15:36,200
Speaker 1: to look like for this one?

1488
01:15:36,240 --> 01:15:41,040
Speaker 2: Well, the mentality probably started right after the game Sunday night.

1489
01:15:41,720 --> 01:15:46,360
Speaker 2: They show up yesterday and you gotta think, and you're

1490
01:15:46,360 --> 01:15:48,960
Speaker 2: gonna make things different. And every guy and I used

1491
01:15:48,960 --> 01:15:52,520
Speaker 2: to do this individually. You think, where was I disappointed

1492
01:15:52,560 --> 01:15:54,840
Speaker 2: with me? What did I do that I need to

1493
01:15:54,840 --> 01:15:57,200
Speaker 2: do better? And if you feel good about what if

1494
01:15:57,200 --> 01:15:58,920
Speaker 2: you maybe had the game of your life or what

1495
01:15:59,160 --> 01:16:01,800
Speaker 2: like Adulton Canid kind of you know, kind of game

1496
01:16:02,080 --> 01:16:04,120
Speaker 2: where he actually played pretty well. You think, Okay, how

1497
01:16:04,160 --> 01:16:07,880
Speaker 2: can I help somebody else? That's the game day mentality.

1498
01:16:07,960 --> 01:16:10,640
Speaker 2: You got to write the ship. And certainly there are

1499
01:16:10,680 --> 01:16:12,960
Speaker 2: things you can do. There's nothing you can do about

1500
01:16:13,000 --> 01:16:15,559
Speaker 2: somebody else fumbling the ball, or you know, nothing anybody

1501
01:16:15,600 --> 01:16:17,880
Speaker 2: on the team can do about Josh, you know, throwing

1502
01:16:18,200 --> 01:16:21,960
Speaker 2: a pick something like that. But you do look for

1503
01:16:22,080 --> 01:16:25,840
Speaker 2: opportunities to do things better, particularly in your own prep,

1504
01:16:26,560 --> 01:16:28,760
Speaker 2: and also looking for opportunities to help other guys with

1505
01:16:28,840 --> 01:16:33,920
Speaker 2: their prep. That that's what you do under a bad loss,

1506
01:16:34,000 --> 01:16:35,760
Speaker 2: not a bad loss, but a loss like the one

1507
01:16:35,800 --> 01:16:36,360
Speaker 2: they suffered.

1508
01:16:36,760 --> 01:16:37,400
Speaker 1: You knew it.

1509
01:16:39,040 --> 01:16:41,920
Speaker 2: I said it to Danie Robsky in that last segment.

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Speaker 2: You're sitting there looking at that game and you look

1511
01:16:46,840 --> 01:16:48,720
Speaker 2: yourself in the mirror. So it was us. We're the

1512
01:16:48,720 --> 01:16:51,400
Speaker 2: ones who lost that game. Patriots didn't beat us. We

1513
01:16:51,439 --> 01:16:54,479
Speaker 2: beat us. We help them beat us, and we can't

1514
01:16:54,520 --> 01:16:56,360
Speaker 2: do that. And that's where it begins.

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01:16:58,040 --> 01:17:01,120
Speaker 1: Let's go to the phones at eight oh three fifty.

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01:17:01,280 --> 01:17:05,000
Speaker 1: Is that is your game day mentality presented by best self,

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01:17:05,439 --> 01:17:08,680
Speaker 1: and we lead off today with Mirran and Richmond. What's

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01:17:08,760 --> 01:17:11,120
Speaker 1: up Mirn, Hey.

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01:17:11,080 --> 01:17:12,679
Speaker 7: Jalen, thanks for taking my call. I had a quick

1520
01:17:12,760 --> 01:17:16,080
Speaker 7: question about the play defensive line and specifically, I guess

1521
01:17:16,120 --> 01:17:18,280
Speaker 7: my perceived black of the ability is set the edge

1522
01:17:18,439 --> 01:17:22,599
Speaker 7: versus some quarterbacks. I mean, we saw Spencer Rutler leaving

1523
01:17:22,600 --> 01:17:25,240
Speaker 7: the pocket to again on a pok but and now

1524
01:17:25,320 --> 01:17:28,920
Speaker 7: Drake Magan a pocket making plays andstfically on third down

1525
01:17:28,920 --> 01:17:31,479
Speaker 7: extending drives. What do you think the justice of that

1526
01:17:31,560 --> 01:17:34,040
Speaker 7: and ability to keep you know, quarterbacks in the pocket

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01:17:34,040 --> 01:17:37,800
Speaker 7: comes from? Is there anyone defense? And that has been

1528
01:17:37,880 --> 01:17:40,640
Speaker 7: kind of more and more or less uh Chilsey of

1529
01:17:40,640 --> 01:17:41,479
Speaker 7: Blighty than happened.

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01:17:42,400 --> 01:17:44,519
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I would say in the Saints game,

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01:17:45,160 --> 01:17:47,759
Speaker 1: Joey Bosa had a tough time. He got caught cheating

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01:17:47,800 --> 01:17:51,120
Speaker 1: inside on a couple of occasions, which lets some run

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01:17:51,160 --> 01:17:56,160
Speaker 1: plays and Rattler get the outside corners. So he was

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01:17:56,200 --> 01:17:59,919
Speaker 1: a little He was more disciplined this past week against

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01:18:00,120 --> 01:18:03,719
Speaker 1: the Patriots and Drake May. And I will say Drake

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01:18:03,800 --> 01:18:06,839
Speaker 1: May did not do a whole lot with his legs

1537
01:18:06,880 --> 01:18:10,080
Speaker 1: in the game, at least in terms of positive yardage. Yes,

1538
01:18:10,160 --> 01:18:12,920
Speaker 1: he did roll out and extend some plays, no question

1539
01:18:13,000 --> 01:18:16,120
Speaker 1: about that. But this is a guy that has killed

1540
01:18:16,120 --> 01:18:19,519
Speaker 1: teams with his legs in the first month of the season,

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01:18:19,920 --> 01:18:21,720
Speaker 1: and I thought the Bills did a good job of

1542
01:18:21,840 --> 01:18:25,120
Speaker 1: managing that. And that's the thing, like they're saying, no

1543
01:18:25,120 --> 01:18:28,640
Speaker 1: pass pressure, no pass pressure, There's only so much you

1544
01:18:28,680 --> 01:18:32,479
Speaker 1: can do in being aggressive with a quarterback as mobile

1545
01:18:32,920 --> 01:18:35,120
Speaker 1: as this guy. You have to be very disciplined in

1546
01:18:35,120 --> 01:18:37,280
Speaker 1: your rush lanes. And when you have to be disciplined

1547
01:18:37,320 --> 01:18:40,719
Speaker 1: in your rush lanes, sometimes you can't play as fast

1548
01:18:40,840 --> 01:18:44,360
Speaker 1: because you have to react to where the quarterback is

1549
01:18:44,400 --> 01:18:47,320
Speaker 1: positioning himself back there. That's part, that's half the battle.

1550
01:18:47,880 --> 01:18:50,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, I've heard some people and who have said, you know,

1551
01:18:50,960 --> 01:18:53,479
Speaker 2: Greg Russeau has done a nice job this year's been solid.

1552
01:18:53,560 --> 01:18:56,000
Speaker 2: Now he you know, he burst onto the scene early

1553
01:18:56,040 --> 01:19:00,160
Speaker 2: in this game on Sunday this last Sunday night. But

1554
01:19:00,200 --> 01:19:02,519
Speaker 2: he's also been really solid in the run game off

1555
01:19:02,560 --> 01:19:07,400
Speaker 2: the edge. But you're right, I mean, that's setting the

1556
01:19:07,520 --> 01:19:12,559
Speaker 2: edge is one part of stopping the run. Holding the

1557
01:19:12,600 --> 01:19:16,960
Speaker 2: line of scrimmage is job one. And you know they

1558
01:19:17,000 --> 01:19:18,920
Speaker 2: haven't done that as well as they should have either.

1559
01:19:18,960 --> 01:19:21,400
Speaker 2: So I'm with you.

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01:19:24,080 --> 01:19:24,200
Speaker 4: This.

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01:19:24,360 --> 01:19:27,320
Speaker 2: It hasn't been spectacular defensively. The only thing they have

1562
01:19:27,360 --> 01:19:30,439
Speaker 2: done well again this year is churn out turnovers, and

1563
01:19:30,479 --> 01:19:32,439
Speaker 2: when that dries up, you get the kind of game

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01:19:32,520 --> 01:19:34,599
Speaker 2: we got this last week. Now, they still held them

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01:19:34,600 --> 01:19:37,360
Speaker 2: to twenty three points. That may be a function that

1566
01:19:37,760 --> 01:19:43,040
Speaker 2: you know, New England's offense is good, not great, but

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01:19:43,200 --> 01:19:46,800
Speaker 2: that's twenty three points. Should be a winning formula for

1568
01:19:46,840 --> 01:19:47,919
Speaker 2: an NFL defense.

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01:19:48,120 --> 01:19:51,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, not to mention the fact that you know, you

1570
01:19:51,080 --> 01:19:53,000
Speaker 1: look at the game at the end, I mean the

1571
01:19:53,040 --> 01:19:55,519
Speaker 1: Bills defense got off the field on third down. The

1572
01:19:55,560 --> 01:19:58,840
Speaker 1: Patriots were three for nine on third down in that game.

1573
01:20:00,280 --> 01:20:03,679
Speaker 1: It's outside of the Jets oz for eleven, right, week two,

1574
01:20:03,760 --> 01:20:05,439
Speaker 1: that's the best they've done on That's right.

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01:20:06,600 --> 01:20:08,360
Speaker 2: They've had a couple of good games where they were

1576
01:20:08,360 --> 01:20:11,320
Speaker 2: good on third down. Was that them or was it

1577
01:20:11,640 --> 01:20:15,080
Speaker 2: the other team, like the Jets being inept or unable

1578
01:20:15,360 --> 01:20:16,000
Speaker 2: to function?

1579
01:20:16,080 --> 01:20:18,880
Speaker 1: So I think part of the reason that may wasn't

1580
01:20:18,920 --> 01:20:22,600
Speaker 1: on the ground as much is one, they had to

1581
01:20:22,600 --> 01:20:25,800
Speaker 1: be disciplined in their rush lanes with their approach. Two,

1582
01:20:26,120 --> 01:20:29,639
Speaker 1: they didn't blitz a ton for fear of him escaping

1583
01:20:29,760 --> 01:20:34,680
Speaker 1: and running for big time yardage. And then three they

1584
01:20:34,680 --> 01:20:37,639
Speaker 1: were also trying to be conscious of not allowing him

1585
01:20:37,640 --> 01:20:39,559
Speaker 1: to take off and run. And at the end of

1586
01:20:39,560 --> 01:20:43,120
Speaker 1: the game he has three carries for twelve yards. They

1587
01:20:43,120 --> 01:20:46,200
Speaker 1: did well against him in several areas. He just made

1588
01:20:46,520 --> 01:20:50,240
Speaker 1: two or three spectacular plays when he extended the play

1589
01:20:50,280 --> 01:20:52,960
Speaker 1: by rolling out, and that's what people remember.

1590
01:20:53,000 --> 01:20:55,040
Speaker 2: Teams are gonna play Drake May the same way they

1591
01:20:55,080 --> 01:20:59,719
Speaker 2: played Josh Allen with a spy and in with defensive linemen.

1592
01:20:59,760 --> 01:21:02,519
Speaker 2: State in their rushlings, you didn't see any x stunts

1593
01:21:03,520 --> 01:21:08,160
Speaker 2: or crossovers because of his ability to find a seam

1594
01:21:08,200 --> 01:21:10,799
Speaker 2: in the rush and take off running.

1595
01:21:11,479 --> 01:21:14,000
Speaker 1: Let's go to Bill down in Texas. What's up Bill?

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01:21:15,280 --> 01:21:17,720
Speaker 3: Hey, good afternoon, gentlemen, Thanks for taking my call. Sure,

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01:21:18,760 --> 01:21:20,080
Speaker 3: I have like three things.

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Speaker 12: If you're considered one of the top teams in the league,

1599
01:21:24,040 --> 01:21:27,240
Speaker 12: you're gonna get everybody's best effort. So if your effort

1600
01:21:27,560 --> 01:21:31,559
Speaker 12: isn't as good as theirs or better your preparation Monday

1601
01:21:31,560 --> 01:21:35,680
Speaker 12: through Friday, that's where you win the games. If your

1602
01:21:35,720 --> 01:21:39,080
Speaker 12: intensity doesn't match what THEIRS is, it doesn't matter how

1603
01:21:39,080 --> 01:21:42,759
Speaker 12: good you think you are, you're gonna get beat. Second,

1604
01:21:42,920 --> 01:21:46,760
Speaker 12: Keon Coleman I called you guys before the draft and

1605
01:21:46,800 --> 01:21:48,200
Speaker 12: told you you did not want the guy.

1606
01:21:49,080 --> 01:21:51,840
Speaker 3: He does not get open, he drops the ball.

1607
01:21:52,600 --> 01:21:54,479
Speaker 12: I guarantee you he's not going to have much a

1608
01:21:54,479 --> 01:21:55,760
Speaker 12: better year than he did last year.

1609
01:21:55,800 --> 01:22:02,800
Speaker 3: He is what he is. And the mantra sounds great,

1610
01:22:03,520 --> 01:22:05,879
Speaker 3: but it's not effective if your.

1611
01:22:05,760 --> 01:22:08,960
Speaker 12: Receivers are not going to the coach and going to

1612
01:22:09,640 --> 01:22:13,640
Speaker 12: your offensive coordinator and the and the quarterback saying they

1613
01:22:13,680 --> 01:22:17,080
Speaker 12: want the ball. You don't have an NFL receiver, we

1614
01:22:17,280 --> 01:22:18,679
Speaker 12: have a college receiver.

1615
01:22:18,880 --> 01:22:21,479
Speaker 2: Well, Bill, I'll tell you this. I get what you're saying,

1616
01:22:21,960 --> 01:22:24,519
Speaker 2: but explain to me why they scored thirty plus points

1617
01:22:24,520 --> 01:22:27,519
Speaker 2: a game last year with that exact mantra. And that's

1618
01:22:27,560 --> 01:22:29,720
Speaker 2: the object. I mean, you're trying to score points, and

1619
01:22:29,760 --> 01:22:32,639
Speaker 2: they did it better than any team in Buffalo Bill's history,

1620
01:22:32,680 --> 01:22:35,000
Speaker 2: and every one of the other teams in the league

1621
01:22:35,240 --> 01:22:38,439
Speaker 2: last year. To the extent that they played one less

1622
01:22:38,479 --> 01:22:40,200
Speaker 2: game than the two teams in the super Bowl, they

1623
01:22:40,280 --> 01:22:42,920
Speaker 2: still scored more points than anybody in the NFL with

1624
01:22:43,040 --> 01:22:45,280
Speaker 2: that mantra. So, I mean, I don't know what.

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01:22:45,400 --> 01:22:45,960
Speaker 11: I get it.

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01:22:46,320 --> 01:22:49,680
Speaker 12: Huh, I get it, But eventually it's gonna wear out

1627
01:22:49,680 --> 01:22:50,200
Speaker 12: as welcome.

1628
01:22:50,240 --> 01:22:53,519
Speaker 3: Maybe maybe a number one Number one receiver or a

1629
01:22:53,640 --> 01:22:56,800
Speaker 3: number two receiver in the NFL. You want the ball.

1630
01:22:57,520 --> 01:23:00,080
Speaker 3: You know that you can get open, and you know

1631
01:23:00,240 --> 01:23:02,719
Speaker 3: that you can help this team win. You want the ball.

1632
01:23:03,080 --> 01:23:05,160
Speaker 12: You don't want to just go out and block all day.

1633
01:23:05,760 --> 01:23:07,440
Speaker 12: I'm sorry, I mean, yeah.

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01:23:07,720 --> 01:23:11,760
Speaker 2: Sorry, receiver. You're right, Bill, You're right. I mean that's

1635
01:23:11,800 --> 01:23:14,080
Speaker 2: part of the said I said this earlier in the week.

1636
01:23:14,520 --> 01:23:17,400
Speaker 2: Part of the job description for an a one wide

1637
01:23:17,400 --> 01:23:19,320
Speaker 2: receiver one in the NFL is to be a little

1638
01:23:19,320 --> 01:23:21,519
Speaker 2: bit of a diva and a donkey once in a while.

1639
01:23:21,720 --> 01:23:26,519
Speaker 2: They all are yes, they all are yes. I get

1640
01:23:26,760 --> 01:23:29,280
Speaker 2: I played with him, and I played against him, and

1641
01:23:29,760 --> 01:23:32,400
Speaker 2: and I've covered him for thirty years or so. I

1642
01:23:32,439 --> 01:23:33,920
Speaker 2: know you're exactly.

1643
01:23:33,560 --> 01:23:36,880
Speaker 3: Right that they can be a pain. But that's what

1644
01:23:36,920 --> 01:23:37,280
Speaker 3: you need.

1645
01:23:37,760 --> 01:23:39,679
Speaker 11: Okay, they can be at pain, all right, Okay.

1646
01:23:39,720 --> 01:23:42,360
Speaker 12: And then my last one is the defensive ends. Can

1647
01:23:42,400 --> 01:23:46,479
Speaker 12: we not keep somebody inside? I'm so tired of watching

1648
01:23:46,760 --> 01:23:50,200
Speaker 12: the quarterback run out to the right. That's what Kansas

1649
01:23:50,200 --> 01:23:51,519
Speaker 12: City quarterback Mahomes does.

1650
01:23:51,520 --> 01:23:53,880
Speaker 3: See you every time you play. That's what happened the

1651
01:23:53,960 --> 01:23:54,439
Speaker 3: other day.

1652
01:23:55,080 --> 01:23:59,040
Speaker 12: It's like your your main job is to keep things inside.

1653
01:23:59,280 --> 01:24:00,559
Speaker 3: We've litched up the middle.

1654
01:24:00,640 --> 01:24:03,280
Speaker 12: The guys come and wide open up the middle to

1655
01:24:03,320 --> 01:24:04,080
Speaker 12: get the quarterback.

1656
01:24:04,280 --> 01:24:05,000
Speaker 3: And what do we do.

1657
01:24:05,560 --> 01:24:08,400
Speaker 12: We go inside, let him out, he throws the ball

1658
01:24:09,400 --> 01:24:13,960
Speaker 12: and they extend the drive. That's their one job, very inside.

1659
01:24:14,000 --> 01:24:17,320
Speaker 2: I'll tell you that we gotta got all right. Thanks Bill,

1660
01:24:17,680 --> 01:24:19,519
Speaker 2: we got a little taste of it. You're right, we

1661
01:24:19,600 --> 01:24:21,599
Speaker 2: got a little taste of what it's like to play

1662
01:24:21,720 --> 01:24:28,240
Speaker 2: Josh Allen for these other teams, Josh is really set

1663
01:24:28,760 --> 01:24:32,919
Speaker 2: players like Josh Josh Lamar pat Teams have to adjust

1664
01:24:32,960 --> 01:24:35,800
Speaker 2: what they do defensively to the ability of these quarterbacks

1665
01:24:35,800 --> 01:24:39,240
Speaker 2: to get outside the pocket and crush you, whether they

1666
01:24:39,280 --> 01:24:42,000
Speaker 2: run it or whether they throw it. And the Bills

1667
01:24:42,200 --> 01:24:44,160
Speaker 2: haven't had to face too many of those, and they've

1668
01:24:44,160 --> 01:24:48,280
Speaker 2: got another one now in their division. They got probably

1669
01:24:48,280 --> 01:24:51,759
Speaker 2: two in their division. If Justin fields us around, hangs around.

1670
01:24:52,240 --> 01:24:55,639
Speaker 2: So it's gonna be when they make plays. Yeah, they're

1671
01:24:55,680 --> 01:24:57,719
Speaker 2: gonna do it outside the pocket once in a while,

1672
01:24:57,800 --> 01:25:02,680
Speaker 2: and because they have the ability to do it, you

1673
01:25:02,800 --> 01:25:04,439
Speaker 2: just got to get used to having to put up

1674
01:25:04,479 --> 01:25:07,040
Speaker 2: with it once in a while. Some good players make

1675
01:25:07,080 --> 01:25:09,360
Speaker 2: plays against you, even when they're trying to not let

1676
01:25:09,400 --> 01:25:13,200
Speaker 2: you do exactly what you're doing. So Drake May is

1677
01:25:13,439 --> 01:25:15,640
Speaker 2: a good quarterback and the Bills are going to get

1678
01:25:15,680 --> 01:25:20,800
Speaker 2: a belly full of hymn over the years. I'm sure. So, yeah,

1679
01:25:20,880 --> 01:25:22,840
Speaker 2: not everybody can do it. In fact, we're talking to

1680
01:25:22,920 --> 01:25:23,639
Speaker 2: dan Orlowski.

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01:25:23,720 --> 01:25:24,040
Speaker 1: I don't.

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01:25:24,080 --> 01:25:26,880
Speaker 2: He doesn't think Michael Pennick So the Atlanta Falcons does

1683
01:25:26,920 --> 01:25:27,720
Speaker 2: this too much, so.

1684
01:25:27,800 --> 01:25:29,439
Speaker 1: He usually works from the pocket.

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01:25:29,520 --> 01:25:31,640
Speaker 2: You might you might get a chance to see the

1686
01:25:31,680 --> 01:25:35,120
Speaker 2: Bills pass rush be a little more exotic this coming week,

1687
01:25:35,240 --> 01:25:40,080
Speaker 2: but as far as last week, yeah, it's you have

1688
01:25:40,240 --> 01:25:42,280
Speaker 2: limitations when you play quarterbacks of that nature.

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01:25:42,360 --> 01:25:45,200
Speaker 1: You also have limitations when you're supremely shorthanded, which the

1690
01:25:45,240 --> 01:25:48,040
Speaker 1: Bills are due to injury and suspension. Right now, gotta

1691
01:25:48,080 --> 01:25:49,600
Speaker 1: take a break. When we come back, we'll see if

1692
01:25:49,600 --> 01:25:51,639
Speaker 1: we can squeeze in a phone call or two. Here

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01:25:51,720 --> 01:25:53,599
Speaker 1: on one Bill's Live presented boy Call Out of Health.

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Speaker 9: It's Buffalo Bills Radio.

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01:26:08,160 --> 01:26:10,559
Speaker 1: Time. Now for this week's Coach of the Week, presented

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Speaker 1: by Legends Global Merchandise. For Week five and Section six,

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Speaker 1: it's Charlie Karstett from Eden as he led his Raiders

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Speaker 1: to a forty five thirty four win over Madina last week,

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01:26:20,800 --> 01:26:24,160
Speaker 1: and in Section five, Tim Sawyer takes home this week's

1700
01:26:24,160 --> 01:26:28,479
Speaker 1: honor as his newly merged Alexander Pembroke team is off

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01:26:28,520 --> 01:26:32,840
Speaker 1: to a four and oh start, which included a big

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01:26:32,960 --> 01:26:37,760
Speaker 1: forty to twenty seven win over Leroy cal Mum. Each

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01:26:37,800 --> 01:26:41,840
Speaker 1: coach will receive one thousand dollars for their program. Congrats

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01:26:42,280 --> 01:26:46,080
Speaker 1: to those super happy coaches out there. In section six

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01:26:46,120 --> 01:26:49,240
Speaker 1: and section five, they're given the death stare to us there.

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01:26:49,280 --> 01:26:51,880
Speaker 1: What they're talking about the king as serious as a

1707
01:26:51,880 --> 01:26:54,200
Speaker 1: heart attack. You want a thousand bucks, buddy?

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01:26:54,200 --> 01:27:00,120
Speaker 2: It makes me, uh makes me wonder who's taking the photos?

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01:27:00,120 --> 01:27:02,000
Speaker 1: Lot of selfie we can we could definitely say that.

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01:27:02,680 --> 01:27:05,280
Speaker 1: But congrats to Equipper about that. Yeah, talk to the

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01:27:05,280 --> 01:27:08,800
Speaker 1: coaches nonetheless. Uh, let's get back to the phones and

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01:27:08,800 --> 01:27:10,880
Speaker 1: squeeze one in here. Maybe two. We go to Izzy

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01:27:10,920 --> 01:27:13,439
Speaker 1: in North Carolina. Got about thirty seconds? Is he what

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01:27:13,520 --> 01:27:14,080
Speaker 1: he got?

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01:27:15,120 --> 01:27:15,640
Speaker 3: Okay?

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01:27:16,240 --> 01:27:20,559
Speaker 13: Yeah, Steve good to know the defensive line and I

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01:27:21,000 --> 01:27:26,400
Speaker 13: wanted towards you know, in the second half especially, it

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01:27:26,439 --> 01:27:32,040
Speaker 13: looked like they were letting them inside. Guy rushed the

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01:27:32,200 --> 01:27:36,599
Speaker 13: passer and that was why he moved to the left. Now,

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01:27:36,640 --> 01:27:39,680
Speaker 13: when you do that step, gigs only got to be

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01:27:39,880 --> 01:27:44,400
Speaker 13: one guy, I mean, you know what I'm talking about.

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Speaker 1: Well, they were doing max protection in the second and

1723
01:27:47,720 --> 01:27:48,280
Speaker 1: were keeping a.

1724
01:27:48,280 --> 01:27:50,720
Speaker 2: Lot of guys into prep pass protect. The Patriots were,

1725
01:27:50,760 --> 01:27:52,519
Speaker 2: and they were double team and the guys on the edge,

1726
01:27:52,560 --> 01:27:54,759
Speaker 2: so the interior guys were getting a little extra push.

1727
01:27:55,280 --> 01:27:57,599
Speaker 1: But it was still three on two there. But yeah,

1728
01:27:58,280 --> 01:28:01,559
Speaker 1: because it's two defensive tackles against art center guard, and

1729
01:28:01,600 --> 01:28:03,559
Speaker 1: the two tackles were getting held from the two backs

1730
01:28:03,560 --> 01:28:07,280
Speaker 1: to chip right and that's why May had all data

1731
01:28:07,320 --> 01:28:10,600
Speaker 1: throwback there. And look, the Patriots said, look, we're only

1732
01:28:10,600 --> 01:28:13,200
Speaker 1: going to send three guys out in routes, but we

1733
01:28:13,240 --> 01:28:16,280
Speaker 1: think our three can beat whatever five you've got back there.

1734
01:28:16,320 --> 01:28:19,080
Speaker 1: And Diggs was the one guy that did most of

1735
01:28:19,120 --> 01:28:19,400
Speaker 1: the night.

1736
01:28:19,560 --> 01:28:21,400
Speaker 2: And Diggs was the kind of player we've seen him be.

1737
01:28:22,160 --> 01:28:23,720
Speaker 1: Quickly to Tom on the west side, what do you

1738
01:28:23,760 --> 01:28:24,320
Speaker 1: got for a sound?

1739
01:28:26,120 --> 01:28:29,599
Speaker 11: Hey, guys, I thought that played at Curtis Samuel where

1740
01:28:29,640 --> 01:28:34,080
Speaker 11: he did the double on Andre and reverse direction. I

1741
01:28:34,120 --> 01:28:38,880
Speaker 11: thought he tripped and fell. But kudos to Brady and

1742
01:28:39,120 --> 01:28:42,920
Speaker 11: Josh and Curtis for pulling that off because that was

1743
01:28:42,920 --> 01:28:46,880
Speaker 11: a beautiful play. But anyway, I never want to see

1744
01:28:46,920 --> 01:28:50,960
Speaker 11: the white on white uniform again. I looked it up

1745
01:28:51,000 --> 01:28:54,240
Speaker 11: before the game, and I believe they had a losing record.

1746
01:28:54,320 --> 01:28:56,519
Speaker 11: It was like one and two or one and three,

1747
01:28:57,240 --> 01:29:01,160
Speaker 11: and now it's one and another one. So they should

1748
01:29:01,160 --> 01:29:04,759
Speaker 11: put that uniform. It's a beautiful I love the top.

1749
01:29:04,920 --> 01:29:07,960
Speaker 11: They could have worn the blue pants because blue is

1750
01:29:07,960 --> 01:29:11,960
Speaker 11: a cold collar, but they went white on white, and

1751
01:29:12,840 --> 01:29:14,920
Speaker 11: I never want to see that again. Put it on

1752
01:29:15,080 --> 01:29:18,280
Speaker 11: a mannequin, put it in a showcase. I never want

1753
01:29:18,320 --> 01:29:19,679
Speaker 11: to see it on the field again.

1754
01:29:19,800 --> 01:29:22,120
Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, fortunately, yeah, fortunately a few time. It's a

1755
01:29:22,160 --> 01:29:25,400
Speaker 1: one and only. It's a one time only wearing of

1756
01:29:25,439 --> 01:29:27,760
Speaker 1: the jersey this year, so that's the last time you'll

1757
01:29:27,760 --> 01:29:32,000
Speaker 1: see it. Yeah, it'll come back for the next three years,

1758
01:29:32,040 --> 01:29:34,200
Speaker 1: but only once this year, so that's the last time

1759
01:29:34,200 --> 01:29:35,120
Speaker 1: you'll see it this year.

1760
01:29:35,400 --> 01:29:35,519
Speaker 13: Yea.

1761
01:29:35,920 --> 01:29:38,840
Speaker 1: As for the lake Curtis Samuel motion, that was a

1762
01:29:38,880 --> 01:29:41,240
Speaker 1: play or a priest. That motion, I should say that

1763
01:29:41,400 --> 01:29:45,000
Speaker 1: is typically run by Shakir and then they had Samuel

1764
01:29:45,080 --> 01:29:48,519
Speaker 1: run it kind of caught them with their pants. It works,

1765
01:29:48,920 --> 01:29:51,880
Speaker 1: it certainly is. That's it for us today, Steve and

1766
01:29:51,920 --> 01:30:01,920
Speaker 1: I will see you tomorrow at one three