WEBVTT - There Is No Fairy Tale with Lindsey Vonn 0:00:00.960 --> 0:00:06.680 Oh, hello, good afternoon. Good buenos tardes, I mean buenos 0:00:07.040 --> 0:00:09.640 I don't even know what I mean. I'm so sick 0:00:09.640 --> 0:00:13.120 of my bell correcting me in my fucking Spanish. I mean, like, 0:00:13.480 --> 0:00:16.480 she corrects everything I say, but she's not correcting me 0:00:16.520 --> 0:00:20.599 to speak proper Spanish. She speaks slang Spanish admittingly. She 0:00:20.680 --> 0:00:22.760 says to me, well, this is how we speak in Mexico. 0:00:22.800 --> 0:00:25.320 And I'm like, great, but I'm trying to learn Spanish 0:00:25.360 --> 0:00:29.040 for Spain and true. And I also don't want to 0:00:29.040 --> 0:00:33.000 point out that I don't ever correct her fucking English. 0:00:33.120 --> 0:00:36.600 Never I'd ever say oh, no, that words, those words 0:00:36.640 --> 0:00:39.239 go in the opposite direction or anything. But she is 0:00:39.400 --> 0:00:43.199 riding me like a wave wants to be broke out 0:00:43.240 --> 0:00:45.720 off my jock. I'm like, do you want me to 0:00:45.800 --> 0:00:48.280 learn Spanish? Or don't you if you keep putting up 0:00:48.320 --> 0:00:51.720 these barriers? Uh? And she just loves it, though, But 0:00:51.760 --> 0:00:53.519 I gotta give it to her, like I know that 0:00:53.520 --> 0:00:55.560 that must be satisfying for her to be able to 0:00:55.560 --> 0:00:59.520 correct me all the time. And you asked her to 0:00:59.480 --> 0:01:02.160 to Well, yeah, I said I wanted to speak Spanish. 0:01:02.160 --> 0:01:04.280 You could let me slide a little bit with my grammar. 0:01:04.560 --> 0:01:06.600 But you know what I love. I'm such a grammarian. 0:01:06.680 --> 0:01:10.399 I care so much about grammar that I really want. 0:01:10.480 --> 0:01:12.520 I want to speak proper Spanish anyway, It's just it's 0:01:12.560 --> 0:01:15.640 too much of a beginner's Spanish to be there yet. Yeah, 0:01:17.959 --> 0:01:20.440 what have I learned this week? I learned about Cuba 0:01:20.480 --> 0:01:25.080 and sugar. Well, you know, after this, I learned all 0:01:25.120 --> 0:01:28.440 about Spain. Oh, I have to promote a show April twenty. 0:01:28.520 --> 0:01:31.320 It's Spokane. That's the second show we added in Spokane. 0:01:31.520 --> 0:01:34.240 It's not quite sold out, so please buy your tickets, 0:01:34.720 --> 0:01:38.560 you motherfucker's. And what other shows do I need to promote? Well, 0:01:38.600 --> 0:01:42.360 they're all really almost sold out. Red Rocks Amphitheater. That 0:01:42.440 --> 0:01:44.520 one's not sold out yet. Red Rocks Amphitheater. That's a 0:01:44.560 --> 0:01:47.880 big one. That's like people. So yeah, go to Chelsea 0:01:47.960 --> 0:01:50.120 Headler dot com. There are some tickets for some other shows. 0:01:50.120 --> 0:01:52.360 But yeah, and I'm going to add a whole bunch 0:01:52.400 --> 0:01:55.720 of new dates I think sometime this month. Yeah, fantastic. 0:01:55.760 --> 0:01:57.200 It's so hard to figure out where I am. I 0:01:57.200 --> 0:01:59.840 thought I was in Cuba, so I learned all about 0:01:59.840 --> 0:02:03.279 the Spanish conquering Cuba, and then the English conquering Cuba, 0:02:03.320 --> 0:02:06.000 and then they had a treaty and they gave Cuba 0:02:06.000 --> 0:02:08.680 back to Spain, and then they kept Florida, and then 0:02:08.720 --> 0:02:11.880 they kept the Lower Mississippi some areas around there, and 0:02:11.919 --> 0:02:15.440 then they discovered sugar during the Atlantic slave trade, which 0:02:15.520 --> 0:02:17.600 was started by the English. I'd like to say that 0:02:17.760 --> 0:02:21.959 make sure we mentioned so that people fucking understand history, 0:02:22.040 --> 0:02:25.320 because I am so confused about so many things. I 0:02:25.440 --> 0:02:27.600 was like, where didn't we all come from Egypt to 0:02:27.880 --> 0:02:30.840 my brother one day He's like, no, you asshole, And 0:02:30.880 --> 0:02:33.000 so now I'm reading a book. Then we all came 0:02:33.040 --> 0:02:38.760 from Africa. Everybody came from Africa. Ye, So anyway, the sugar. Yeah, 0:02:38.800 --> 0:02:42.239 so Cuba was the center of sugar for a long time. 0:02:42.600 --> 0:02:45.600 Slaves were responsible for all of the prosperity of the 0:02:45.639 --> 0:02:49.960 United States, beginning the United States and basically taking all 0:02:49.960 --> 0:02:53.520 of the sugarcane, hacking it, cutting it, transferring it, blah 0:02:53.520 --> 0:02:57.079 blah blah. And so that's when the Atlantic slave trade peaked, 0:02:57.360 --> 0:02:59.360 was during the sugar I want to say rush, but 0:02:59.360 --> 0:03:01.720 I don't think it's called the rush. I like calling 0:03:01.760 --> 0:03:05.040 it a sugar rush. Yeah, sugar rush, that's a different 0:03:05.320 --> 0:03:08.560 that's a different. That's something too, So yeah, there's that. 0:03:08.639 --> 0:03:13.200 And then I'm learning about Neanderthals and Denisovans and Anatolia 0:03:13.520 --> 0:03:16.760 and Homo erectus and how we all kind of changed 0:03:16.800 --> 0:03:19.960 and when we split off, like right before Homo erectus 0:03:20.160 --> 0:03:24.480 we split off, we diverged. One became chimpanzees and the 0:03:24.480 --> 0:03:27.480 other became modern humans. Oh my god, short history of 0:03:27.520 --> 0:03:29.760 humanity is called. I need to read what you're reading, 0:03:29.800 --> 0:03:31.560 because like, as a kid who grew up going to 0:03:31.639 --> 0:03:34.480 Christian school, where we had let's say, a warped and 0:03:34.560 --> 0:03:37.000 abbreviated version of science, I didn't even know that like 0:03:37.120 --> 0:03:41.040 Pangaea existed until I was in college. I remember saying 0:03:41.040 --> 0:03:44.240 to a teacher once, why does it look like the two, 0:03:44.400 --> 0:03:46.960 you know, halves of the earth would fit together? And 0:03:46.960 --> 0:03:49.120 they're like, that's just a funny thing. God dead Like 0:03:49.200 --> 0:03:50.920 that kind of stuff was what I grew up. I 0:03:50.920 --> 0:03:55.240 also believed that we were everything was connected, even the islands, 0:03:55.360 --> 0:03:59.560 and not all the islands like Sardinia Corsica were never 0:03:59.640 --> 0:04:03.360 part of the mainland. They were just like they were volcanic. Yes, yes, 0:04:03.520 --> 0:04:06.480 so they have their own thing going. So that's interesting too, 0:04:06.720 --> 0:04:09.360 that that would naturally happen that there would be islands 0:04:09.360 --> 0:04:12.440 sprinkled everywhere, you know, I mean, I guess I got 0:04:12.480 --> 0:04:15.000 such bad science education. I didn't even remember the word 0:04:15.000 --> 0:04:17.800 for continents, you know, the halves of the world. It's 0:04:17.839 --> 0:04:20.240 just wild. Yeah, it is wild. And I know you 0:04:20.279 --> 0:04:23.000 know you read something and you'd retain I'd be interested 0:04:23.040 --> 0:04:25.919 in my level of retainment. I want to take tests 0:04:25.960 --> 0:04:28.359 after every book I read to see how much I 0:04:28.400 --> 0:04:30.040 took in. I think we're trying to send you back 0:04:30.040 --> 0:04:33.120 to college. I wouldn't go back to send some sort 0:04:33.120 --> 0:04:38.120 of curriculum quite frankly, Okay, what do we got. What's 0:04:38.120 --> 0:04:42.560 happening to? Well, Chelsea, I have my ski buddy on today, 0:04:42.600 --> 0:04:44.400 but I won't tell you that is until she's on. 0:04:44.760 --> 0:04:49.520 That's very exciting. So, Chelsea, I had an email come 0:04:49.720 --> 0:04:54.640 in about Dana, who had called in her stepson was 0:04:54.720 --> 0:04:59.240 being sort of vaguely creepy and yes, yes, and she 0:04:59.360 --> 0:05:01.440 mentioned like he was maybe being a little too touchy 0:05:01.480 --> 0:05:04.480 feely with her son. And I just thought this email 0:05:04.560 --> 0:05:06.920 was so important that I wanted to share it with you. 0:05:07.480 --> 0:05:11.560 Heather says, Hello, Chelsea and Catherine. I wanted to say 0:05:11.600 --> 0:05:14.240 thank you for providing the audience with the mother that 0:05:14.279 --> 0:05:17.120 called in about her steps on she feels uncomfortable around. 0:05:17.760 --> 0:05:19.680 While I had no doubt this would be a response, 0:05:19.800 --> 0:05:23.480 I truly appreciate you not minimizing the seriousness of needing 0:05:23.520 --> 0:05:26.679 to take action to protect her younger son, self and family. 0:05:27.279 --> 0:05:29.560 I'm also in awe of the mother's strength to reach 0:05:29.600 --> 0:05:32.240 out for advice, because that is so tricky. I mean, 0:05:32.240 --> 0:05:35.920 it's like it's the sort of nebulous thing. My personal 0:05:35.960 --> 0:05:39.039 story includes eight plus years of a very close family 0:05:39.160 --> 0:05:43.040 friend grooming me as a child with uncomfortable touching, inappropriate 0:05:43.080 --> 0:05:45.599 sexual conversations for an adult to have with a child, 0:05:46.200 --> 0:05:51.760 shower peeping, accidental quote unquote porn exposure, and more. While 0:05:51.839 --> 0:05:54.880 rape never occurred, it has left years worth of trauma 0:05:54.960 --> 0:05:58.200 response that I'm working through with a great therapist. However, 0:05:58.360 --> 0:06:00.880 at the time it was brushed off by others as 0:06:01.000 --> 0:06:04.719 creepy old man vibes or that shoulder or waiste touching 0:06:04.880 --> 0:06:07.920 wasn't considered a sexual touch even if I didn't want it. 0:06:08.480 --> 0:06:10.679 I think I was meant to hear this podcast today 0:06:10.760 --> 0:06:13.039 as my therapy session this week was focused on my 0:06:13.080 --> 0:06:16.000 continued struggle with not freezing in a moment when someone 0:06:16.080 --> 0:06:19.559 touches me in a suggestive but not legally sexual way. 0:06:20.320 --> 0:06:23.159 The mother listening to her intuition and taking charge to 0:06:23.200 --> 0:06:26.200 keep her young sons safe could have a huge impact 0:06:26.279 --> 0:06:29.080 on her son's future. It's something I wish would have 0:06:29.120 --> 0:06:33.000 happened for myself. Her older stepson clearly also needs support, 0:06:33.040 --> 0:06:35.880 and I'm thankful you communicated to prioritize safety of family 0:06:35.960 --> 0:06:39.760 while acknowledging his need for help too. It's these conversations 0:06:39.760 --> 0:06:41.880 and stories that I hope will help others think differently 0:06:41.880 --> 0:06:44.680 on the impact these quote unquote micro traumas can have 0:06:44.839 --> 0:06:47.880 over time. Thanks so much for your awesomeness ensuring both 0:06:47.880 --> 0:06:50.680 the funny and needed stories of our lives. Heather. I 0:06:50.760 --> 0:06:52.800 like how she said micro trauma because I learned about 0:06:52.839 --> 0:06:55.279 complex trauma from a friend of mine over the weekend 0:06:55.279 --> 0:06:57.159 who I hung out with, and he was telling me 0:06:57.200 --> 0:07:02.400 about complex trauma is trauma overtime, right, like neglect or 0:07:02.480 --> 0:07:05.960 alcoholism or drug addiction, something like that that you're that 0:07:06.040 --> 0:07:08.120 you lay witness to. If you have a sibling that 0:07:08.200 --> 0:07:14.200 has a terrible schizophrenia, that would be complex trauma, which 0:07:14.240 --> 0:07:18.760 is different than event trauma and PTSD is related to 0:07:18.760 --> 0:07:23.880 event trauma. But I want to underline the intuition part 0:07:24.000 --> 0:07:26.960 because more and more people are talking about intuition and 0:07:27.040 --> 0:07:31.000 understanding that it is a very concrete, if not measurable thing. 0:07:31.840 --> 0:07:35.800 And for every woman and man that is listening to 0:07:35.840 --> 0:07:40.240 all our gays, you all have it. We all have intuition. 0:07:40.360 --> 0:07:42.960 We all have a feeling in our stomach and our gut. 0:07:43.120 --> 0:07:45.480 Sometimes it's in your heart, or it feels like in 0:07:45.520 --> 0:07:47.920 your heart, but it is really in your gut when 0:07:47.920 --> 0:07:51.080 you meet someone, and it's the exact opposite of the 0:07:51.120 --> 0:07:54.280 feeling you get when you know something's wrong, when somebody 0:07:54.320 --> 0:07:57.040 comes into your space a person and you know they're 0:07:57.080 --> 0:08:00.240 dangerous right away you see that they're sketchy, or that 0:08:00.240 --> 0:08:04.679 they're unhinged, or that they're unpredictable. That feeling right there, 0:08:05.160 --> 0:08:08.760 you could also have in the opposite way about something 0:08:08.840 --> 0:08:11.720 you should do, or somebody you should move towards, or 0:08:11.760 --> 0:08:14.480 a thing that is right, And if you really listen 0:08:14.560 --> 0:08:17.600 to yourself, you are going to know what that is. 0:08:18.080 --> 0:08:20.280 And we don't talk about intuition in the way that 0:08:20.320 --> 0:08:24.080 we need to, because young girls need to trust their intuition, 0:08:24.480 --> 0:08:26.720 They need to trust the way that their body feels 0:08:26.800 --> 0:08:29.320 because your body will tell your brain what is happening, 0:08:29.600 --> 0:08:32.040 and it is. It's such a concrete thing. It's like 0:08:32.440 --> 0:08:35.199 you when you're in a certain situation or you're around 0:08:35.240 --> 0:08:39.840 someone who makes you uncomfortable, it turns into a physical reaction. 0:08:40.160 --> 0:08:42.840 Your stomach gets in a knot, your hair goes up 0:08:42.840 --> 0:08:45.400 on the back of your neck. Like trust your changes. 0:08:45.520 --> 0:08:48.160 The way are holding yourself and carrying yourself changes, like 0:08:48.280 --> 0:08:52.400 the body is communicating with you. Yeah. You know, sometimes 0:08:52.559 --> 0:08:55.040 I fold my arms when I'm in a conversation, and 0:08:55.080 --> 0:08:58.160 I realize how offputting that is. Like that's the definition 0:08:58.200 --> 0:09:01.079 of being defensive, is having your arms folded, even if 0:09:01.080 --> 0:09:03.720 that's a comfortable position for you. That's how it's kind 0:09:03.760 --> 0:09:06.320 of received most of the time. And that's because my 0:09:06.360 --> 0:09:09.160 body's doing it. My body is saying, oh, I'm uncomfortable 0:09:09.320 --> 0:09:13.360 in this conversation, and you have to listen to those signals. 0:09:13.480 --> 0:09:16.000 Or you know, sometimes it's just ego, like oh, there's 0:09:16.040 --> 0:09:18.079 saying something that I don't like or I don't agree 0:09:18.120 --> 0:09:21.040 with it or whatever. But yeah, I think that's a 0:09:21.040 --> 0:09:23.480 great conversation for any parents listening to have with your 0:09:23.520 --> 0:09:27.199 young children. Yeah, following your gut It is so important, 0:09:27.320 --> 0:09:30.199 especially with situations like the ones we're just talking about 0:09:30.280 --> 0:09:33.440 right where it's not illegal, it's not illicit, but it 0:09:33.640 --> 0:09:36.360 is something that is having an effect and an impact 0:09:36.440 --> 0:09:38.959 on that child or that adult. You know, this can 0:09:39.040 --> 0:09:42.559 happen in adult situations as well. One really helpful listener, Tatiana, 0:09:42.559 --> 0:09:45.240 wrote in saying some of the early warning signs of 0:09:45.440 --> 0:09:49.479 psychosis are a worrisome drop in grades or job performance, 0:09:49.600 --> 0:09:55.000 trouble thinking clearly, suspiciousness or uneasiness with others, a decline 0:09:55.000 --> 0:09:58.120 in self care or personal hygiene, spending a lot more 0:09:58.160 --> 0:10:02.040 time alone than usual, and strong inappropriate emotions or having 0:10:02.040 --> 0:10:04.240 no feelings at all. And I think that's a really 0:10:04.320 --> 0:10:07.280 important thing to point out as well, because that age 0:10:07.360 --> 0:10:10.400 they said, like twenty seven right around there, that's kind 0:10:10.440 --> 0:10:14.160 of when some mental illnesses will present themselves to people. 0:10:14.240 --> 0:10:16.440 So thanks to everyone who wrote in about that. So 0:10:16.480 --> 0:10:19.240 I thought this was so important to highlight and really 0:10:19.240 --> 0:10:22.200 paying attention to those little things. And if someone says 0:10:22.200 --> 0:10:25.120 I'm uncomfortable, like listening to them and seeing what needs 0:10:25.160 --> 0:10:28.480 to what steps need to be taken. So okay, so 0:10:28.640 --> 0:10:31.120 who's our first guest? Okay, our first guest. It's our 0:10:31.120 --> 0:10:32.800 only guest. I forgot that I'm not on a TV 0:10:32.840 --> 0:10:38.160 show right now. Our guest today is a friend of mine, 0:10:38.600 --> 0:10:40.760 a good friend of mine, and she's an Olympic gold 0:10:40.760 --> 0:10:43.600 medalist and she's a skier. But before I introduced her, 0:10:43.640 --> 0:10:46.839 I really want to mention her philanthropy. She has a 0:10:46.920 --> 0:10:51.120 foundation called a Lindsay Vaughan Foundation, which empowers underserved girls 0:10:51.120 --> 0:10:54.440 with camps, scholarships and more. So please make sure you 0:10:54.440 --> 0:10:56.920 are aware of that and check it out. She wrote 0:10:56.920 --> 0:11:00.360 a great book which everyone should read. It's called Rise. Okay, 0:11:00.360 --> 0:11:06.840 please welcome Lindsay von h Then she is Miss America. 0:11:07.840 --> 0:11:09.280 I was hoping that I was going to interrupt you 0:11:09.440 --> 0:11:14.040 your ski day today. Where are you in Orlando? Oh? Yeah, 0:11:14.080 --> 0:11:16.320 you know, I have a dilemma. Actually, I'm glad you 0:11:16.320 --> 0:11:19.400 brought up Florida because for my new tour, I was 0:11:19.440 --> 0:11:21.120 just on the phone with my agents this morning and 0:11:21.120 --> 0:11:23.120 they were going over routing for the fall dates that 0:11:23.160 --> 0:11:26.400 were going to announce later, and Florida was on the list. 0:11:26.440 --> 0:11:28.840 And I said, guys, I don't know about Florida anymore. 0:11:29.160 --> 0:11:30.880 And they're like, well, do you really want to punish 0:11:30.920 --> 0:11:32.800 the people in Florida like you have people you every 0:11:32.800 --> 0:11:34.760 time you go, you go to like six stops of Florida. 0:11:34.760 --> 0:11:36.360 I'm like, no, I don't. I don't want to punish 0:11:36.360 --> 0:11:38.520 the people of Florida. They're being punished enough. But I 0:11:38.600 --> 0:11:41.080 feel like as a statement, I just have to say 0:11:41.160 --> 0:11:43.480 fuck off. Like when is enough enough? Like all of 0:11:43.520 --> 0:11:46.720 this legislation, Like I feel like DeSantis needs to know. 0:11:46.840 --> 0:11:48.720 Certain people aren't going to come. I'm sure they don't 0:11:48.720 --> 0:11:51.120 care about me. But if more people do it, But 0:11:51.160 --> 0:11:53.959 then there's the argument that you're affecting revenue, you're affecting 0:11:54.000 --> 0:11:57.120 people's jobs, you're affecting people's lifestyle. So I don't really 0:11:57.160 --> 0:11:59.520 know what the right answer is. If anybody listening has 0:11:59.559 --> 0:12:03.959 feelings on this, please DM me. Actually DM lindsay she'll 0:12:04.120 --> 0:12:06.439 she'll go through them first and then she'll read that 0:12:06.559 --> 0:12:12.760 to me. What are you doing in Orlando? I'm speaking, 0:12:13.000 --> 0:12:16.400 you know, apparently some people want my advice for some reason. 0:12:16.640 --> 0:12:19.280 I don't know. I believe it. You're a champion. We 0:12:19.280 --> 0:12:23.319 were just watching your night race at I'll say the streef, 0:12:23.400 --> 0:12:30.480 the streef in clothes, okay, kids by Kispuel fuel, Yes, 0:12:31.200 --> 0:12:35.240 Kidspuel the strife. Yes, good job guys. Yeah, and this 0:12:35.400 --> 0:12:39.600 video is of you skiing the world's hardest ski run. 0:12:40.040 --> 0:12:42.199 You were not only the first woman to do it, 0:12:42.400 --> 0:12:44.320 but you also did it in the dark, just to 0:12:44.360 --> 0:12:48.000 make it more insane. This video is crazy. I'll put 0:12:48.000 --> 0:12:50.000 a link to it in the show notes. It's a 0:12:50.040 --> 0:12:53.079 hard one. Honestly, I've not run into one American that 0:12:53.200 --> 0:12:55.240 has gotten it right so far. But it's okay. The 0:12:55.280 --> 0:12:58.240 effort was there. I appreciate you well. It's also a 0:12:58.240 --> 0:13:00.880 hard line to ski. It's not even a line. I 0:13:00.880 --> 0:13:02.560 don't even know what the fuck you would call what 0:13:02.600 --> 0:13:06.640 you do, but it is so hardcore. It's so bad us. 0:13:06.679 --> 0:13:08.720 I mean all my ski buddies from Whistler who are 0:13:08.840 --> 0:13:10.720 real ski you know, like they know how to ski 0:13:11.160 --> 0:13:14.120 and they are just like you. When that video came out, 0:13:14.240 --> 0:13:16.280 we must have watched it like fifteen times. If you 0:13:16.320 --> 0:13:18.200 haven't seen it, she did it with Red Bull. You 0:13:18.200 --> 0:13:20.520 can watch it on Lindsay's Instagram, which you should be 0:13:20.520 --> 0:13:22.920 following her anyway, because you put out great content. I 0:13:22.960 --> 0:13:24.760 saw you powder skiing the other day and I wanted 0:13:24.800 --> 0:13:27.240 to ask you, how do you because if you spent 0:13:27.320 --> 0:13:31.120 your life training you know, downhill and slom and all 0:13:31.120 --> 0:13:33.480 the stuff that you do, do you spend a lot 0:13:33.480 --> 0:13:36.600 of time in powder before you retire. Oh no, I 0:13:36.760 --> 0:13:39.240 never powder skied because I was so worried that I 0:13:39.240 --> 0:13:42.800 would hurt myself. And some of the other athletes would 0:13:42.840 --> 0:13:45.760 go powder skiing, like if our race was canceled because 0:13:45.800 --> 0:13:48.640 of so much No, you know, definitely I would say 0:13:48.679 --> 0:13:50.959 some of the girls would go, like people that are 0:13:51.000 --> 0:13:54.480 from California that grew up skiing powder, But I didn't 0:13:54.480 --> 0:13:57.960 grow up skiing powder. I'm from Minnesota. There's not one 0:13:58.040 --> 0:14:03.320 powder day in the entire season. It's mostly man man 0:14:03.320 --> 0:14:06.840 and just cool as hell. So I just I love skiing, 0:14:06.920 --> 0:14:09.959 you know, and it's powder is a lot easier on 0:14:10.000 --> 0:14:13.840 my knees. And while it's not something that you know, 0:14:13.920 --> 0:14:16.679 I've grown up with, I just I love it and 0:14:16.720 --> 0:14:19.560 it's fun and it's the most exciting thing that I 0:14:19.600 --> 0:14:24.280 can do outside of racing. Yeah, powder skiing is really 0:14:24.320 --> 0:14:26.680 fucking fun. And you know what's so fun about it, 0:14:26.800 --> 0:14:29.880 or so funny about it is that when you learn 0:14:29.920 --> 0:14:33.680 how to ski technically, as Lindsay can speak to way 0:14:33.720 --> 0:14:36.040 more than I can. But from what little I've gleaned, 0:14:36.680 --> 0:14:39.880 everything you learn about regular skiing goes out the window. 0:14:39.880 --> 0:14:42.120 When you ski powder, you know, you're not at an 0:14:42.160 --> 0:14:44.800 air goal, you're not turning, you're bouncing like a bunny 0:14:44.840 --> 0:14:48.880 rabbit through the snow and just like hopping. Like yeah, 0:14:48.880 --> 0:14:52.000 it's like leaning back. It's the exact opposite that any 0:14:52.040 --> 0:14:56.000 instructor would ever teach you. It's all just leaned back 0:14:56.080 --> 0:14:59.120 and ride the wave. It's like surfing. It's pretty funny 0:14:59.160 --> 0:15:02.640 because to your point, is the exact opposite of what 0:15:02.240 --> 0:15:04.840 you've been told, what you've been taught, and just throw 0:15:04.880 --> 0:15:07.800 it all out the window. Yeah. Yeah, Well you've been 0:15:07.800 --> 0:15:09.960 through a lot and you've been injured a lot, and 0:15:10.080 --> 0:15:11.720 I want to talk a little bit. I know you. 0:15:11.880 --> 0:15:15.320 Lindsey wrote a great book about her whole life, her autobiography, 0:15:15.760 --> 0:15:19.400 and in it you talk a lot about your recoveries 0:15:19.480 --> 0:15:22.920 from from many different accidents, and I want to know 0:15:23.400 --> 0:15:26.480 obviously you're mentally tough. You couldn't survive all of this 0:15:26.520 --> 0:15:28.680 and continue to go back out there, especially what you 0:15:28.760 --> 0:15:31.280 just skied in Kitspuel, Like why why would you do that? 0:15:31.680 --> 0:15:33.320 And you said, I mean I think you said you 0:15:33.400 --> 0:15:35.800 had like your surgery ready to go in case you 0:15:35.840 --> 0:15:38.600 did wipe out and hurt yourself. Is that true? Yeah, 0:15:38.640 --> 0:15:40.760 I mean I'm getting my knee replaced, so I figured 0:15:40.800 --> 0:15:42.880 this was a perfect time to do it, because if 0:15:42.880 --> 0:15:45.760 I crash and I need surgery, I'm getting it anyways, 0:15:45.800 --> 0:15:50.200 so I don't mind risking it. But I've had my 0:15:50.280 --> 0:15:52.920 fair share of surgeries. I mean, you've purt your knee, 0:15:52.920 --> 0:15:55.400 you know, you know the deal. But I don't think 0:15:55.440 --> 0:15:58.760 it's ever impacted my passion for ski racing or first 0:15:58.800 --> 0:16:01.640 skiing in general. I just love the mountain. I just 0:16:01.720 --> 0:16:04.040 wish it had been a little bit easier on my body. 0:16:04.200 --> 0:16:07.080 But I don't have any regrets. You know, despite the 0:16:07.120 --> 0:16:09.160 fact that I limp around most of the time, I 0:16:10.000 --> 0:16:13.400 still wouldn't change anything. Well, let's talk about the mindset 0:16:13.440 --> 0:16:15.280 that allows you to do that, because you work out 0:16:15.320 --> 0:16:17.960 really hard, so I know your body's been beaten up, 0:16:18.000 --> 0:16:21.120 but you still have a significant amount of strength left 0:16:21.160 --> 0:16:24.400 and determination in order to keep all of that going, 0:16:24.440 --> 0:16:27.080 which I think is really vital for I think all women, 0:16:27.240 --> 0:16:29.600 you know what I mean, with like our physicality. It's 0:16:29.640 --> 0:16:31.400 like you get an injury and you can be so 0:16:31.520 --> 0:16:34.160 down on yourself. First of all, it's depressing and you're immobile, 0:16:34.240 --> 0:16:36.560 and then you're taking pills and you're you know, you're 0:16:36.600 --> 0:16:38.720 trying to recuperate and all of that is like a 0:16:38.800 --> 0:16:42.040 real negative downer on you. So to be able to 0:16:42.080 --> 0:16:44.920 pick yourself back up that from that, not once but 0:16:45.040 --> 0:16:48.960 repeatedly is very admirable. And to keep going. You know, 0:16:49.000 --> 0:16:50.280 I know a lot of people who get into an 0:16:50.320 --> 0:16:52.040 accident and they don't want to ever do that thing again. 0:16:52.320 --> 0:16:53.960 And it's like, oh, I want to do that thing 0:16:54.040 --> 0:16:55.960 right away again because I don't want to be scared 0:16:55.960 --> 0:16:59.720 of it. Yeah, exactly. I mean I think to your point, 0:16:59.720 --> 0:17:01.800 a lot of people can get down and I got 0:17:01.920 --> 0:17:03.840 very down. I mean I got really depressed when I 0:17:03.880 --> 0:17:06.680 was injured. I missed the Olympics. I was injured back 0:17:06.720 --> 0:17:09.560 to back acls, which took me out for almost two 0:17:09.640 --> 0:17:12.560 years in a row. And it's really hard to find 0:17:12.680 --> 0:17:16.080 anything positive, you know, when you especially when you repeatedly 0:17:16.119 --> 0:17:18.840 get injured, like what am I doing? You know? Why 0:17:18.880 --> 0:17:21.840 am I doing this? And it's hard to find the motivation. 0:17:22.440 --> 0:17:24.640 But I think for me, it always goes back to passion, 0:17:24.760 --> 0:17:28.000 you know why. I love ski racing and I've always 0:17:28.040 --> 0:17:30.000 have and that's why I kept doing it and kept 0:17:30.000 --> 0:17:33.640 coming back. But it doesn't make their recovery any easier. 0:17:33.880 --> 0:17:36.879 You know, it's always with three habits, always two steps forward, 0:17:36.960 --> 0:17:40.000 one step back, and sometimes one step forward two steps back. 0:17:40.080 --> 0:17:44.879 You know, it's a very monotonous, long, slow grind, and 0:17:45.600 --> 0:17:49.080 I just have learned through repetition that you just have 0:17:49.160 --> 0:17:51.919 to stick to it and keep keep going, you know, 0:17:52.040 --> 0:17:53.960 keep putting one foot in the front in front of 0:17:53.960 --> 0:17:57.360 the other, and that's the only thing you can do, honestly. 0:17:58.119 --> 0:18:02.080 And your transition since you retired has been You're still 0:18:02.119 --> 0:18:04.920 really involved with the US ski team. You're still really 0:18:04.960 --> 0:18:08.000 involved in skiing. You're skiing with people all the time 0:18:08.160 --> 0:18:10.720 in Utah, Veil or you know, all over the place, 0:18:10.720 --> 0:18:12.840 I guess, And so tell me it talked to me 0:18:12.840 --> 0:18:15.040 a little bit about that transition for you, because I know, 0:18:15.119 --> 0:18:17.320 as an athlete or I don't know, I can imagine 0:18:17.600 --> 0:18:19.560 how difficult it must be to say goodbye to that 0:18:19.600 --> 0:18:21.760 part of your life. But in a way you've kind 0:18:21.760 --> 0:18:23.800 of extended it in a way that we haven't seen 0:18:23.880 --> 0:18:27.760 many people do publicly. Yeah, I mean, I definitely felt 0:18:27.840 --> 0:18:31.000 like when I retired, a part of me died. You know. 0:18:31.520 --> 0:18:34.239 It was something where I knew I could never go 0:18:34.320 --> 0:18:37.160 back and I've been doing it my entire life. I've 0:18:37.200 --> 0:18:39.280 been skiing since I was two and a half years old. 0:18:39.760 --> 0:18:43.080 And after I retired, I woke up and what I 0:18:43.160 --> 0:18:46.199 love to do every day was suddenly gone, and I 0:18:46.240 --> 0:18:49.080 had to really figure out, Okay, what is it about 0:18:49.080 --> 0:18:51.840 ski racing that I loved? I love being on the mountain. 0:18:51.960 --> 0:18:54.119 So it took me about a year and a half, 0:18:54.200 --> 0:18:57.359 but I got back out there and I relearned my 0:18:57.400 --> 0:19:01.200 passion for the sport as a whole, and I enjoyed 0:19:01.200 --> 0:19:04.240 skiing with my family, with my friends. I've gone to 0:19:04.320 --> 0:19:06.920 places now that I've been many times before, but I've 0:19:06.960 --> 0:19:10.720 never actually skied. I've been to Korshevelle. I've raced there many, many, 0:19:10.720 --> 0:19:13.159 many times, but I've never been anywhere other than the 0:19:13.240 --> 0:19:16.240 race trail. So I got to go back and explore 0:19:16.280 --> 0:19:19.399 the mountain and you know, find my passion again. And 0:19:20.160 --> 0:19:23.879 I think, you know, for me, I don't like sitting 0:19:23.960 --> 0:19:27.360 still downhill. I always had adrenaline and that was really 0:19:27.359 --> 0:19:30.919 hard to replace. But I've found ways to challenge myself 0:19:30.960 --> 0:19:33.800 and you know, push myself now in business and just 0:19:33.920 --> 0:19:36.600 keep again, like waking up every day with a new challenge. 0:19:36.640 --> 0:19:38.480 And that's been exciting. It's you know, I feel like 0:19:38.560 --> 0:19:41.760 there's so many opportunities and I'm excited for the future, 0:19:41.800 --> 0:19:44.320 to be honest, yeah, I know. I like watching what 0:19:44.400 --> 0:19:47.320 you've been doing in the last couple of years. And 0:19:47.359 --> 0:19:50.280 we've known each other for a long time actually, and 0:19:50.480 --> 0:19:53.760 it feels like you have really found your groove and 0:19:53.840 --> 0:19:58.639 like all of these opportunities, your philanthropy, your foundation, and 0:19:58.720 --> 0:20:01.600 all of the business oportunities that you have cultivated for 0:20:01.640 --> 0:20:04.080 yourself is a great model I think for a lot 0:20:04.119 --> 0:20:06.959 of younger athletes who are probably looking going, oh, she 0:20:07.080 --> 0:20:10.000 made this like so seamless, you know, well, it definitely 0:20:10.160 --> 0:20:12.880 wasn't seamless. I mean, I can't tell you how hard 0:20:12.920 --> 0:20:15.000 it was. You know, as a ski racer, we don't 0:20:15.080 --> 0:20:18.000 we don't make money. There's no money in ski racing. 0:20:18.400 --> 0:20:21.040 So I had to really work hard to make a 0:20:21.080 --> 0:20:24.080 business for myself. And my dad always made me aware 0:20:24.119 --> 0:20:27.119 when I was younger that if I wanted to be successful, 0:20:27.200 --> 0:20:30.320 I had to be more than an athlete, and so 0:20:30.359 --> 0:20:32.280 I always took at that approach. I always want the 0:20:32.280 --> 0:20:35.320 extra mile. I always did all the interviews, you know, 0:20:35.400 --> 0:20:38.960 I was really careful with my sponsorships, what partnerships. I 0:20:39.080 --> 0:20:42.160