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Speaker 1: The camps of UC Irvine, the site of RAMS twenty

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Speaker 1: eighteen training camp. Welcome to Between the Horns. I'm Miles Simmons.

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Speaker 1: I got de Marco far to my right. One take, Simmons,

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Speaker 1: I like it. What you didn't mess up the intro.

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Speaker 1: I don't usually mess up the intro. We didn't have

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Speaker 1: to burn a time out early. Listen, We're on like

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Speaker 1: episode fifty four. I think of this, you know, listen, three,

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Speaker 1: I should be able to open the show. We're still

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Speaker 1: burning timeouts on first possession sometimes. Last week we had to.

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Speaker 1: We were doing mailbacks. August fifteenth, Yes, Wednesday, just about

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Speaker 1: two thirty Pacific time here in Irvine, California, a second

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Speaker 1: to last penultimate RAMS practice here at UC Irvine. Crazy day.

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Speaker 1: What did that happen? Fast? Right? Feels like we just

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Speaker 1: got here for training camp and we're almost done, right, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean, which means the regular season is just around

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Speaker 1: the corner, finally, and we're all going to get excited,

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Speaker 1: Like you said, finally, Yeah, I mean, I love preseason.

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Speaker 1: I love the process of you know, developing, making guys better,

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Speaker 1: creating a team ninety guys. But let's just get started

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Speaker 1: with the real stuff. I think everybody kind of wants

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Speaker 1: to get there. It's been interesting just thinking about the

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Speaker 1: fact that, all right, you went to Baltimore and that

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Speaker 1: kind of really broke things up, just in terms of

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Speaker 1: being a training camp and sleeping in the dorms like

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Speaker 1: we do do when we're down here, and you know,

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Speaker 1: it's just it's different. You know. Jared Golf last week

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Speaker 1: was saying, you know, they liked that we went to

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Speaker 1: Baltimore because it broke up the monotony of camp. I mean,

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Speaker 1: they're so efficient with what they do here. I'm just

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Speaker 1: talking about in totality, the entire team travels so well

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Speaker 1: that you didn't miss a beat traveling to Baltimore. We said,

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Speaker 1: when we took off from Los Angeles, you looked from

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Speaker 1: where we set all the way to the front of

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Speaker 1: the plane. Everyone was knocked out cold. And by the

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Speaker 1: time you woke up, we got there, you had meetings,

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Speaker 1: you got ready for the next day. So it was

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Speaker 1: just like having training camp here, just in Baltimore. Why

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Speaker 1: do you think this team travels so well. I don't know,

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Speaker 1: I really don't. I think it's the support staff. I mean,

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Speaker 1: they had to deal with a move, most of them,

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Speaker 1: so They're used to that sort of situation, and then

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Speaker 1: going from Jacksonville to London last year and then back

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Speaker 1: and then to New York. They've had practice, so that's

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Speaker 1: nothing new. Yeah, I guess that's part of it. I

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Speaker 1: don't know, but I mean just from the standpoint of look,

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Speaker 1: they went seven and one on the road last year,

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Speaker 1: plus you really count that London game eight and one,

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Speaker 1: you know, as a road record, because that certainly was

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Speaker 1: not a home game. Yeah, So it's just really it's

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Speaker 1: been interesting to me, you know, just seeing that. Obviously,

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Speaker 1: and I think JB said this, one of the things

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Speaker 1: that the Rams definitely want to do better this year

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Speaker 1: is win games at the coliseum. True. Yeah, I mean

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Speaker 1: they were obviously a really good team, but a lot

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Speaker 1: of those wins came away from home, and I mean

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Speaker 1: that's got to change. If you want to be a

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Speaker 1: good football team, playoffootball team, number one, you have to

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Speaker 1: defend home and then you have to be good on

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Speaker 1: say they have both taken care of it. Just the

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Speaker 1: results weren't what you like. From the Coliseum. San Francisco.

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Speaker 1: You can throw out that's the last game of the year. Yeah, Seattle,

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Speaker 1: I thought you had them. Should have just gave the

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Speaker 1: ball away Pat time, and that's that's that would change

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Speaker 1: that entire record. So, I mean, it's still a good

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Speaker 1: football team. It is. It is um but I think

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Speaker 1: it's a good reminder that it is a good football

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Speaker 1: team considering what the result of preseason Week one was

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Speaker 1: start there. I think we all expected to see a

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Speaker 1: but particularly the QB one for that night, which was

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Speaker 1: Sean Nahan. Once I took the emotion out of it,

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Speaker 1: and I had to remind myself, Miles, I really did that.

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Speaker 1: It's just preseason. Yeah, I mean, no one everyone wants

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Speaker 1: It's a good chance to evaluate. Now. The problem is,

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Speaker 1: So I think by my counts before there was a

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Speaker 1: What you were going to trot out there against Baltimore? Okay,

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Speaker 1: they have the advantage. Their ones are clearly better than

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Speaker 1: your twos, and they proved it. Well. I think that's

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Speaker 1: the case for everybody in the league, right and everybody

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Speaker 1: have much depth. Look, there's not a situation, you know,

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Speaker 1: If that happens, they'll make a movie about it, like

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Speaker 1: We Are Marshall. Yeah, yeah, something like that. I mean,

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Speaker 1: like that. No, not only that, but it's not like

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Speaker 1: they're not going to game plan right, which is what

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Speaker 1: they did not do against Baltimore at all. You know,

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Speaker 1: they were running only a few select amount of plays

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Speaker 1: you had. McVay said this after the game that we

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Speaker 1: probably didn't put Sean Nangen in some great spots at times.

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Speaker 1: I'm thinking of one play in particular where it looked

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Speaker 1: like Pharrell Cooper had to kind of chip sugs off

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Speaker 1: It's not going to work well when those are the

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Speaker 1: to be immortalized in Canton. And when you give the

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Speaker 1: you give him a tell like Pharaoll Cooper is not

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Speaker 1: just lining up there for no reason. He's there to

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Speaker 1: and he did. Yes, Yeah, so there there there would

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Speaker 1: be mechanisms in place for guys like him right that

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Speaker 1: weren't there on game day. So this is funny when

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Speaker 1: you say that a coach, A head coach says, I

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Speaker 1: put Sean Mannion in bad situations where on the field

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Speaker 1: you're overmatched, Yes they're better than you, but you still

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Speaker 1: right for Sean Nangan. True, in a real live situation,

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Speaker 1: you would game plan more, you would game plan better,

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Speaker 1: you would not call plays as you did, right, You

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Speaker 1: know what I mean? Right? I say that that's what

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Speaker 1: what a smart coach does. But yes, I mean there

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Speaker 1: you're going to be facing better defenses than what you

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Speaker 1: saw in Baltimore. Okay, yes, yeah, with two bookends that

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Speaker 1: That's just the way it goes in football. That absolutely.

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Speaker 1: I think it's fair to expect to see more out

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Speaker 1: the Rams want to hang on to him and extend him?

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Speaker 1: So you have to perform and keep putting good tape.

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Speaker 1: But the only way he's gonna really we're gonna really

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Speaker 1: put him out there with the ones. Sure, I don't

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Speaker 1: what he is and what your role is. I mean,

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Speaker 1: just be the best possible quarterback that you can be

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Speaker 1: why would you be looking for you? How to compete

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Speaker 1: with Jared, I mean you want combody to make him better, obviously,

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Speaker 1: Like Joe Flacco and Lamar Jackson, eventually that's going to

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Speaker 1: be the starter. Flacco is the incumbent. Yes, but at

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Speaker 1: some point this this kid, if he pans out, is

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Speaker 1: going to take your job. Yes. I don't think that

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Speaker 1: not not yet for sure. So to recap, I mean,

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Speaker 1: Sean Magan three of thirteen for sixteen yards, seven point

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Speaker 1: Sean Manon for that backups? I don't know about jump

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Speaker 1: me see some young guys in yea. But as far

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Speaker 1: I think you still have preseason game number two. Yes,

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Speaker 1: keep the same intensity. You know what. He'll say, he

426
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Speaker 1: got in a fight the other day. There's too many.

427
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Speaker 1: I told you. I told you when these joint practices,

428
00:19:42,840 --> 00:19:46,199
Speaker 1: it wasn't even joint practice. Guys, just don't let it

429
00:19:46,240 --> 00:19:48,840
Speaker 1: devolve into a brawl. You get nothing out of it.

430
00:19:48,840 --> 00:19:51,119
Speaker 1: It's true. Yeah, a guy lost his job in Miami.

431
00:19:51,359 --> 00:19:53,280
Speaker 1: I saw that for a brawl. Yeah yeah, I mean

432
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Speaker 1: it's it's just it doesn't make any sense to go

433
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Speaker 1: out here and fight. No, this is where you're trying

434
00:19:58,240 --> 00:19:59,919
Speaker 1: to earn a job. Yeah, you're trying to get ba.

435
00:20:00,240 --> 00:20:02,480
Speaker 1: When you do that, you're not really getting better. Gerald

436
00:20:02,480 --> 00:20:05,840
Speaker 1: Everett tight end shoulder injury, also week to week, So

437
00:20:05,880 --> 00:20:08,840
Speaker 1: we'll see how that then continues to progress. A couple

438
00:20:08,840 --> 00:20:12,639
Speaker 1: people last this too, obo Okaron quo outside the linebacker

439
00:20:12,800 --> 00:20:17,520
Speaker 1: out of Oshama, right. I think I said you did

440
00:20:17,560 --> 00:20:21,120
Speaker 1: it was perfect. Thank you. I've been and you can't

441
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Speaker 1: say that. I've been practicing the pronunciation. Nice. He has

442
00:20:25,720 --> 00:20:27,560
Speaker 1: a little tongue twister. If I can't wait to see

443
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Speaker 1: him play, yeah, I mean yeah. He's still on pup

444
00:20:29,880 --> 00:20:32,520
Speaker 1: right now, physically unable to perform list. We'll see when

445
00:20:32,520 --> 00:20:34,800
Speaker 1: he comes off. Sean mcveighs said that that's a sooner

446
00:20:34,920 --> 00:20:37,720
Speaker 1: or later thing with him, that he will come off

447
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Speaker 1: probably before the end of the preseason. If you are

448
00:20:40,320 --> 00:20:42,680
Speaker 1: still on pup at the beginning of the regular season,

449
00:20:42,720 --> 00:20:44,600
Speaker 1: you have to miss the first six weeks. I feel

450
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Speaker 1: like that's more likely with dom Easily than it is

451
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Speaker 1: with Oua. Yeah, I want to gosh. I mean I

452
00:20:49,640 --> 00:20:51,479
Speaker 1: was thinking last year for Dom Easily would have been

453
00:20:51,480 --> 00:20:52,720
Speaker 1: a hell of a year if he didn't get hurt.

454
00:20:53,080 --> 00:20:55,600
Speaker 1: That defensive one. That rotation. Yeah, I mean, when you

455
00:20:55,680 --> 00:20:59,879
Speaker 1: catch guys trying to deal with Aaron Donald, deal with Michael,

456
00:21:00,480 --> 00:21:02,440
Speaker 1: You're coming off the bench full of energy and they're not.

457
00:21:02,520 --> 00:21:04,760
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, same thing with this defensive one. I

458
00:21:04,800 --> 00:21:06,960
Speaker 1: want him to get healthy more than anyone on this

459
00:21:06,960 --> 00:21:09,800
Speaker 1: football team. Really, it would be really great to see him. Yes,

460
00:21:09,920 --> 00:21:12,160
Speaker 1: when he was healthy in twenty sixteen and he played

461
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Speaker 1: that rotational role on the defensive line, he was very effective.

462
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Speaker 1: And you get to pick on the wounded fawn in

463
00:21:16,760 --> 00:21:20,040
Speaker 1: the Serengetti, the wounded fawn. Yes, you get to pick

464
00:21:20,040 --> 00:21:22,360
Speaker 1: on the duck. You can put him on the weakest

465
00:21:22,359 --> 00:21:25,080
Speaker 1: guy out there and absolutely let him tear his head up.

466
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Speaker 1: I think that's one thing we're going to see out

467
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Speaker 1: of this defensive line though, just and once a d returns,

468
00:21:31,119 --> 00:21:35,200
Speaker 1: this will be a different ball game. But yeah, matchups, right,

469
00:21:35,400 --> 00:21:38,640
Speaker 1: we Donkin Sue talked about this week or two ago,

470
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Speaker 1: the fact that he's he sees that Wade Phillips is

471
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Speaker 1: going to put them in different positions on the defensive

472
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Speaker 1: line in order to be successful, no doubt. So it's

473
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Speaker 1: going to be about matchups. I've seen don Consue rush

474
00:21:51,960 --> 00:21:55,720
Speaker 1: at end, left end, yes, and look pretty good do it? Yes? Yeah, Yeah,

475
00:21:55,720 --> 00:21:57,440
Speaker 1: it looks like he's done it a lot, right. Yeah,

476
00:21:57,480 --> 00:21:59,240
Speaker 1: So you see him there, you see him at no

477
00:21:59,480 --> 00:22:02,320
Speaker 1: sometimes he's been at three technique. You see Brockers at in,

478
00:22:02,520 --> 00:22:05,480
Speaker 1: you see him inside. It's going to be a real

479
00:22:05,640 --> 00:22:09,160
Speaker 1: interesting thing to see how exactly Wade Phillips utilizes those

480
00:22:09,320 --> 00:22:12,520
Speaker 1: three guys on the line of scrimmage and then three

481
00:22:12,720 --> 00:22:15,280
Speaker 1: meaning Acdonald in there, and then you add in another

482
00:22:15,280 --> 00:22:18,040
Speaker 1: pass rusher too. Where you put him is basically taken

483
00:22:18,040 --> 00:22:22,080
Speaker 1: away part of that offense. Yeah, run or pass wherever

484
00:22:22,160 --> 00:22:24,720
Speaker 1: you put Sue. And when we talk about picking on

485
00:22:24,760 --> 00:22:28,560
Speaker 1: the week, wherever ninety nine lines up, he's gonna win.

486
00:22:29,040 --> 00:22:30,719
Speaker 1: You don't put him on the weeks guy. You can

487
00:22:30,760 --> 00:22:32,560
Speaker 1: put him on a pro bowler and he's gonna win. Yeah,

488
00:22:32,880 --> 00:22:34,600
Speaker 1: you get to move around Sue if you had easily

489
00:22:34,640 --> 00:22:36,120
Speaker 1: you can do that sort of stuff. I think Ethan

490
00:22:36,160 --> 00:22:39,359
Speaker 1: Westbrooks played well in Baltimore. Yeah he did. It's not

491
00:22:39,440 --> 00:22:42,400
Speaker 1: easy to make an inside move on an athletic quarterback

492
00:22:42,480 --> 00:22:45,439
Speaker 1: like Jackson and get him on the ground twice twice.

493
00:22:45,640 --> 00:22:48,200
Speaker 1: Now he missed once and he scored. Okay, same move

494
00:22:48,280 --> 00:22:50,800
Speaker 1: he missed and he scored. But then but after him

495
00:22:51,480 --> 00:22:54,040
Speaker 1: improved and came back and made play. So he could

496
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Speaker 1: also be that guy that takes over that quote unquote

497
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Speaker 1: dom easily roll fool me once, I'm not gonna get

498
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Speaker 1: fooled again. Absolutely well, yeah, if he if you miss

499
00:23:01,800 --> 00:23:03,960
Speaker 1: a quarterback again, just keep on running right to the

500
00:23:03,960 --> 00:23:07,439
Speaker 1: locker room, drop your pads at the door, and keep on.

501
00:23:08,080 --> 00:23:10,360
Speaker 1: We don't miss sexy at the door. All right. So

502
00:23:10,400 --> 00:23:14,240
Speaker 1: since we are at the penultimate you see irvine practice,

503
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Speaker 1: that's your allotment. You're only allowed to say that. I

504
00:23:16,600 --> 00:23:22,120
Speaker 1: can't say antipenultimate. That was the baby long sitting right there,

505
00:23:22,119 --> 00:23:26,120
Speaker 1: the Rams, Thank you, ja, the Rams. Antipenultimate practice. Yes here,

506
00:23:26,240 --> 00:23:29,919
Speaker 1: you see irvine happened on Monday. Anyway, go ahead. I

507
00:23:30,040 --> 00:23:31,560
Speaker 1: learned that that was a word a couple of weeks

508
00:23:31,600 --> 00:23:37,360
Speaker 1: ago and I could not wow. So gee just did Okay,

509
00:23:37,440 --> 00:23:40,439
Speaker 1: all right, what's your point point is, let's pick some

510
00:23:40,560 --> 00:23:43,919
Speaker 1: you see irvine all Americans here, and it really stood

511
00:23:43,920 --> 00:23:48,760
Speaker 1: out in practices over the few weeks. Let's remember we

512
00:23:48,800 --> 00:23:52,360
Speaker 1: had that conversation about defensive line out here and practice.

513
00:23:52,400 --> 00:23:54,520
Speaker 1: It's easy to fall in love and a guy fall

514
00:23:54,560 --> 00:23:56,480
Speaker 1: in love with a guy when you're watching practice because

515
00:23:56,520 --> 00:23:59,520
Speaker 1: you're just tagging off people. Let's see that. Let's see

516
00:23:59,560 --> 00:24:03,160
Speaker 1: that say intensity turn into production on game day. Yeah,

517
00:24:03,240 --> 00:24:06,080
Speaker 1: because you're not tagging off, you're tackling. So there are

518
00:24:06,080 --> 00:24:09,679
Speaker 1: some guys that pops um to me that could be better.

519
00:24:09,760 --> 00:24:12,920
Speaker 1: Where did he go he is? Uh? Oh my god,

520
00:24:13,840 --> 00:24:17,200
Speaker 1: Davis number ninety eight. Oh yeah, yeah, I think he's

521
00:24:17,200 --> 00:24:20,720
Speaker 1: been absolutely phenomenal. Yeah. Now that's got to translate to

522
00:24:20,800 --> 00:24:24,199
Speaker 1: game day. Yeah. It's it's one thing to beat your

523
00:24:24,200 --> 00:24:27,280
Speaker 1: own guys, know the snap count, know their rhythms, get

524
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Speaker 1: into the plays. Okay. It's another thing to go out

525
00:24:30,000 --> 00:24:32,280
Speaker 1: there versus somebody you don't know and look exactly the

526
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Speaker 1: same as you do in the practice field. So that's

527
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Speaker 1: one of the guys I'm looking at. But he would

528
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Speaker 1: be my UC Irvine. Would you call it? I call

529
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Speaker 1: un all American, he would be my all American trains American. Um,

530
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Speaker 1: I would say a couple of guys. John Franklin Myers

531
00:24:46,000 --> 00:24:48,200
Speaker 1: comes to mind. Played. I thought he played really well

532
00:24:48,240 --> 00:24:50,520
Speaker 1: when he got in. Oh he didn't get it. I'm sorry,

533
00:24:50,520 --> 00:24:54,119
Speaker 1: never mind, go ahead, moving on? Yeah, yeah, yeah, moving on.

534
00:24:54,160 --> 00:24:57,400
Speaker 1: I'm gonna call it time out. Go ahead. Yeah that's

535
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Speaker 1: what what was that? Now? Yeah? No, Franklin Myers, he

536
00:24:59,720 --> 00:25:02,160
Speaker 1: did not play against the Ravens. But I think he's

537
00:25:02,200 --> 00:25:04,920
Speaker 1: played well here and I think that he's definitely made

538
00:25:04,960 --> 00:25:10,000
Speaker 1: that kind of right. He does. He's like a little

539
00:25:10,000 --> 00:25:11,760
Speaker 1: He's kind of like a mini Brockers. He's one of

540
00:25:11,760 --> 00:25:15,920
Speaker 1: those weird guys. He looks bigger out of pads. When

541
00:25:15,960 --> 00:25:18,840
Speaker 1: I saw him on the sideline, he looked bigger without

542
00:25:18,880 --> 00:25:22,959
Speaker 1: pads on. Something. Certain guys just do that. Yeah, he

543
00:25:23,000 --> 00:25:26,120
Speaker 1: looks bigger without the pads on. I don't know about that. Well,

544
00:25:26,119 --> 00:25:28,199
Speaker 1: it's just me. Okay, I'm not saying you. I just

545
00:25:28,200 --> 00:25:29,679
Speaker 1: said to me. No, I don't know what I mean. Like,

546
00:25:29,680 --> 00:25:33,240
Speaker 1: you're very entitled to your own opinion. Anti penultimate, I

547
00:25:33,240 --> 00:25:37,399
Speaker 1: can say, yeah, it's third to last, yes, but go ahead, okay. Um,

548
00:25:37,520 --> 00:25:40,280
Speaker 1: But I think John Freglan Mars has looked good Joe

549
00:25:40,359 --> 00:25:42,520
Speaker 1: note Boom. I think he's made her a really really

550
00:25:42,600 --> 00:25:47,600
Speaker 1: good impression. Yes, he doesn't strike me as a rookie. Yeah,

551
00:25:47,600 --> 00:25:49,239
Speaker 1: he does strike him as a rookie. He's he's just

552
00:25:49,400 --> 00:25:51,159
Speaker 1: he's a guy getting work, so you can put him

553
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Speaker 1: in as a starter. You know. I have been impressed

554
00:25:53,680 --> 00:25:57,320
Speaker 1: with him because personally, I guess because of the draft position. Yeah,

555
00:25:57,320 --> 00:25:58,960
Speaker 1: but then you think about how can you be that

556
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Speaker 1: good with Cavs that small that the offense he was

557
00:26:02,960 --> 00:26:07,439
Speaker 1: playing at TCU, yes, is not I was talking to

558
00:26:07,520 --> 00:26:09,560
Speaker 1: Brian Allen the other day about this center who the

559
00:26:09,640 --> 00:26:12,280
Speaker 1: ramstrafted out of Michigan State, and I asked him, you know,

560
00:26:12,320 --> 00:26:14,560
Speaker 1: do you feel like you had an advantage coming out

561
00:26:14,600 --> 00:26:17,400
Speaker 1: of a pro style system into this And he said, yes,

562
00:26:17,480 --> 00:26:20,080
Speaker 1: for sure, because we weren't just clapping. We weren't you know,

563
00:26:20,600 --> 00:26:22,479
Speaker 1: we had a play call. We had to go up

564
00:26:22,480 --> 00:26:24,760
Speaker 1: to the line of scrimmage and then do what we do. Right.

565
00:26:25,359 --> 00:26:27,840
Speaker 1: When you're talking about Joe, no, that's not the kind

566
00:26:27,840 --> 00:26:30,880
Speaker 1: of situation he was in at TCU. You know, where

567
00:26:30,920 --> 00:26:33,000
Speaker 1: you have Kenny Hill just throwing the ball all over

568
00:26:33,040 --> 00:26:36,080
Speaker 1: the place. And so to me, that's what makes his

569
00:26:36,160 --> 00:26:39,719
Speaker 1: transition and how it's gone that much more impressive. True.

570
00:26:39,760 --> 00:26:41,680
Speaker 1: I mean it's a little more thinking that some guys

571
00:26:41,680 --> 00:26:43,679
Speaker 1: get caught up in the axes and os. But like

572
00:26:43,800 --> 00:26:46,359
Speaker 1: we said, once the ball moves, it's just football again.

573
00:26:46,400 --> 00:26:48,520
Speaker 1: Many doing it forever. Yeah. And the one thing he

574
00:26:48,600 --> 00:26:50,640
Speaker 1: does best is erased the guy over the top of him.

575
00:26:50,720 --> 00:26:52,560
Speaker 1: Uh yeah. So the one thing you have to know

576
00:26:52,720 --> 00:26:55,360
Speaker 1: first at that position is you got to know who

577
00:26:55,359 --> 00:26:57,000
Speaker 1: to getting how to get him right, well, how to

578
00:26:57,000 --> 00:26:58,919
Speaker 1: get him part. He knows how, he just has to

579
00:26:58,920 --> 00:27:01,280
Speaker 1: know who and that that's part of game plan. But

580
00:27:01,640 --> 00:27:04,680
Speaker 1: when you see him matched up against veteran guys, either

581
00:27:04,760 --> 00:27:07,199
Speaker 1: here or in Baltimore, he doesn't look like a rookie.

582
00:27:07,200 --> 00:27:09,440
Speaker 1: His punch doesn't look like a rookie. Now, his pass

583
00:27:09,440 --> 00:27:11,399
Speaker 1: set doesn't look like a rookie. He looks like a

584
00:27:11,400 --> 00:27:14,120
Speaker 1: guy that's getting ready to start in September. Yeah. Yeah,

585
00:27:14,280 --> 00:27:16,679
Speaker 1: and which is good that you don't have to What

586
00:27:16,720 --> 00:27:17,960
Speaker 1: do you mean you don't have to start him at

587
00:27:18,400 --> 00:27:20,720
Speaker 1: which is great? Yeah, but you could if you wanted

588
00:27:20,760 --> 00:27:23,879
Speaker 1: to start him in right guard right decently. Do you

589
00:27:24,000 --> 00:27:27,800
Speaker 1: think that there's maybe a disadvantage in that. I mean,

590
00:27:27,920 --> 00:27:31,320
Speaker 1: we've seen and I don't it's not a good comparison.

591
00:27:31,600 --> 00:27:36,679
Speaker 1: But like Greg Robinson at left tackle left guard, you know,

592
00:27:36,800 --> 00:27:39,640
Speaker 1: doing the thing where you switch him around, do you

593
00:27:39,680 --> 00:27:43,040
Speaker 1: think that maybe Kurts sometimes no more than helps. No,

594
00:27:43,240 --> 00:27:46,560
Speaker 1: Because I had to go to Baltimore. The first time

595
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Speaker 1: I'm with the Baltimore they started a rookie guard by

596
00:27:49,880 --> 00:27:55,840
Speaker 1: the name of Jonathan Ogden. Yeah, a six ft eight guard. Yeah.

597
00:27:55,960 --> 00:27:59,000
Speaker 1: And then he got his feet wet, learned the speed

598
00:27:59,040 --> 00:28:00,280
Speaker 1: of the game, and they bumped him ot the left

599
00:28:00,280 --> 00:28:02,600
Speaker 1: tackle and the rest is history. So the sooner you

600
00:28:02,600 --> 00:28:05,040
Speaker 1: can get them out on the field, the better. It

601
00:28:05,160 --> 00:28:08,000
Speaker 1: just makes them better fast. Yeah, I think that could

602
00:28:08,040 --> 00:28:09,720
Speaker 1: be the case with no poom, just based on the

603
00:28:09,720 --> 00:28:12,200
Speaker 1: way that he's gone through practices and what we've seen

604
00:28:12,240 --> 00:28:14,000
Speaker 1: from him. And if you're a guard right, think about

605
00:28:14,000 --> 00:28:16,520
Speaker 1: any guard, especially in the NFC West, and you have

606
00:28:16,600 --> 00:28:19,600
Speaker 1: to block Aaron Donald, well, your past set is almost

607
00:28:19,600 --> 00:28:22,359
Speaker 1: like a tackle because he's coming off the ball so fast.

608
00:28:22,400 --> 00:28:25,800
Speaker 1: So the positions are almost the same, but just in

609
00:28:25,840 --> 00:28:27,560
Speaker 1: the inside, the guys are a little bit bigger. So

610
00:28:27,600 --> 00:28:29,840
Speaker 1: it's a little bit easier on you as a tackle

611
00:28:29,880 --> 00:28:32,600
Speaker 1: playing guard because you're quicker like Roger Saffel. Yes, once

612
00:28:32,640 --> 00:28:34,960
Speaker 1: they bumped him inside, he had the advantage. Yes, he's

613
00:28:35,040 --> 00:28:37,520
Speaker 1: more athletic than anybody he's playing against. For the most part,

614
00:28:37,560 --> 00:28:39,760
Speaker 1: he is well. And that's why Roger Staffile does such

615
00:28:39,800 --> 00:28:41,400
Speaker 1: a good job on those screens when he goes out

616
00:28:41,440 --> 00:28:42,920
Speaker 1: to the outside and he's a lead blocker and he

617
00:28:43,000 --> 00:28:45,880
Speaker 1: doesn't want to get beat by Whitfield down the field, Whitworth,

618
00:28:46,400 --> 00:28:49,160
Speaker 1: what did they say, Whitfield, help me concussions? Hit in

619
00:28:49,160 --> 00:28:53,120
Speaker 1: your moment? Worth, Whitfield, I was watching that stupid show. Anyway,

620
00:28:53,160 --> 00:28:57,120
Speaker 1: go ho one of those Real Housewive shows. Afield on there.

621
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Speaker 1: His ex wife is on the show X wife. Yeah,

622
00:29:01,640 --> 00:29:04,080
Speaker 1: I don't know what that means. Let's yeah, let's let's

623
00:29:04,080 --> 00:29:08,920
Speaker 1: just move on to did say whitfield? Is there? Is

624
00:29:08,960 --> 00:29:11,880
Speaker 1: there a whitfield on Oakland? Is that maybe what the

625
00:29:12,120 --> 00:29:15,440
Speaker 1: game could be. This is gonna be an interesting game

626
00:29:15,680 --> 00:29:19,440
Speaker 1: coming up at the Coliseum on Saturday, as it's Sunday,

627
00:29:19,440 --> 00:29:23,240
Speaker 1: and then almost said Friday. It's going around miles, it's contagious,

628
00:29:23,240 --> 00:29:27,719
Speaker 1: it's going around stuff. It's contagious. It is many dry um.

629
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Speaker 1: But yeah, no, this is gonna be fun. It's gonna

630
00:29:29,600 --> 00:29:31,440
Speaker 1: be interesting. I don't know that we're going to seem

631
00:29:31,440 --> 00:29:35,320
Speaker 1: any starters. Again, I'm parsing mcveay's words on this, but

632
00:29:35,360 --> 00:29:39,320
Speaker 1: he keeps saying unique situation. Yeah, when it comes to

633
00:29:39,360 --> 00:29:41,800
Speaker 1: the Raiders, because you play them this week and then

634
00:29:41,840 --> 00:29:44,360
Speaker 1: you play them on September tenth, week one on Monday

635
00:29:44,440 --> 00:29:47,480
Speaker 1: Night Football, and you're not gonna game plan much for

636
00:29:47,520 --> 00:29:51,320
Speaker 1: this anyway. Yeah, but I think just in the fact that, Okay,

637
00:29:51,400 --> 00:29:55,320
Speaker 1: you have somebody who is mcvay's mentor and it's also

638
00:29:55,360 --> 00:29:58,960
Speaker 1: the opponent you're not you don't want somebody to maybe

639
00:29:59,000 --> 00:30:01,200
Speaker 1: get excited and roll up on an ankle, go a

640
00:30:01,280 --> 00:30:03,680
Speaker 1: little crazy. But what I did see was a guy

641
00:30:03,720 --> 00:30:06,720
Speaker 1: named Marshawn Lynch go about sixty yards on a play

642
00:30:06,760 --> 00:30:08,840
Speaker 1: that got called back at about eighty miles an hour.

643
00:30:09,280 --> 00:30:11,960
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, So, I mean, some guys are playing, some

644
00:30:12,040 --> 00:30:14,720
Speaker 1: starters are out there playing. Some X Pro Bowlers are

645
00:30:14,760 --> 00:30:17,040
Speaker 1: on the field. So we just saw that in Baltimore.

646
00:30:17,120 --> 00:30:20,520
Speaker 1: So I mean, I'm all, I'm all for safety, I'm

647
00:30:20,520 --> 00:30:23,440
Speaker 1: all for keeping your guys healthy, but especially on the

648
00:30:23,480 --> 00:30:26,160
Speaker 1: defensive side, You've got to let some of these guys

649
00:30:26,160 --> 00:30:28,360
Speaker 1: get out there and get some reps. So they've worked

650
00:30:28,360 --> 00:30:31,320
Speaker 1: hard for you. Your only reward is to go out

651
00:30:31,360 --> 00:30:34,120
Speaker 1: and hit the other team. You have to let You

652
00:30:34,600 --> 00:30:36,600
Speaker 1: have to let the donkey eat the carrot every now

653
00:30:36,600 --> 00:30:38,400
Speaker 1: and then, or he's not going to pull the wagon

654
00:30:38,440 --> 00:30:43,600
Speaker 1: for you. Okay, But in this particular game, don't you

655
00:30:43,600 --> 00:30:45,920
Speaker 1: see where mcvae will be coming from. If he's like, nah,

656
00:30:45,960 --> 00:30:49,920
Speaker 1: your stars aren't playing. Jarard is encased in ice. Todd Gurley,

657
00:30:50,000 --> 00:30:52,280
Speaker 1: no one hits him until the regular season. You wouldn't

658
00:30:52,280 --> 00:30:54,520
Speaker 1: play Todd Gurley in a preseason game at no I mean,

659
00:30:55,120 --> 00:30:59,400
Speaker 1: and Whitworth if Whitworth says he needs some reps, he

660
00:30:59,480 --> 00:31:02,040
Speaker 1: may have to fight me on it. But okay, get

661
00:31:02,080 --> 00:31:05,200
Speaker 1: in and get out. Yeah, you can be you can

662
00:31:05,240 --> 00:31:07,760
Speaker 1: be smart to get guys work. At least let them

663
00:31:07,800 --> 00:31:10,760
Speaker 1: get in there and play football a little bit, okay,

664
00:31:10,840 --> 00:31:12,280
Speaker 1: but for the most part. No, you don't have to

665
00:31:12,280 --> 00:31:13,680
Speaker 1: treat it like a game. You don't have to put

666
00:31:13,680 --> 00:31:16,160
Speaker 1: your guys at risk, right, not at all. Right, I mean,

667
00:31:16,240 --> 00:31:18,480
Speaker 1: I don't think that we will see them this week.

668
00:31:18,520 --> 00:31:22,200
Speaker 1: I think more likely next week against the Texans, you

669
00:31:22,240 --> 00:31:24,640
Speaker 1: won't see them much. But then it will be a

670
00:31:24,680 --> 00:31:27,480
Speaker 1: series or two probably. Well, I mean, they're getting good work.

671
00:31:27,560 --> 00:31:29,560
Speaker 1: It's not like they're going out here looking sloppy. And

672
00:31:29,560 --> 00:31:32,480
Speaker 1: they didn't look sloppy in Baltimore. Even when the offense

673
00:31:32,920 --> 00:31:35,960
Speaker 1: wasn't moving the ball versus Baltimore's defense outside of the pick,

674
00:31:36,280 --> 00:31:38,760
Speaker 1: it wasn't slop, It wasn't sloppy. It was just not

675
00:31:38,880 --> 00:31:41,840
Speaker 1: real good execution. The defense was better than your offense.

676
00:31:42,000 --> 00:31:44,560
Speaker 1: A man for men. Yeah, Baltimore's offense got sloppy in

677
00:31:44,560 --> 00:31:47,520
Speaker 1: the third quarter, a bunch of false starts. That's sloppy ball.

678
00:31:47,720 --> 00:31:49,600
Speaker 1: You don't see that out here in practice. No, you

679
00:31:49,720 --> 00:31:51,760
Speaker 1: don't from any group. So yeah, as long as you're

680
00:31:51,800 --> 00:31:53,880
Speaker 1: getting good work and you're getting ready for September, then

681
00:31:54,280 --> 00:31:56,080
Speaker 1: so be it. What do you think of Gruden being

682
00:31:56,120 --> 00:31:58,880
Speaker 1: back on the sideline? Funny watching his offense, it's like

683
00:31:58,960 --> 00:32:03,400
Speaker 1: watching nineties John Gruden. It's the same stuff. A bunch

684
00:32:03,400 --> 00:32:06,200
Speaker 1: of tight ends running the football, thrown off play action,

685
00:32:06,960 --> 00:32:09,480
Speaker 1: trying to the same thing Sean McVay tries to do

686
00:32:09,560 --> 00:32:12,480
Speaker 1: with his receivers and his tight ends when they cross,

687
00:32:12,920 --> 00:32:16,720
Speaker 1: cornerbacks up and safeties up. It's the same stuff Gruden does. Yeah,

688
00:32:16,760 --> 00:32:19,959
Speaker 1: it's it's it's a carbon copy, it's a mirror. Well

689
00:32:20,000 --> 00:32:25,719
Speaker 1: just with other personnel groups. Those those systems are you know,

690
00:32:25,880 --> 00:32:28,920
Speaker 1: derived from the same thing. Yeah, the West Coast offense

691
00:32:29,080 --> 00:32:32,560
Speaker 1: that Bill wallsh tree. I mean that John mcvayh what

692
00:32:32,680 --> 00:32:35,880
Speaker 1: Sean McVay. It's going around. John mcsay is his grandfather, right,

693
00:32:36,120 --> 00:32:39,400
Speaker 1: John McVay was a part of that. So that's why

694
00:32:39,800 --> 00:32:44,320
Speaker 1: Sean yea has picked up those things from the tree

695
00:32:44,360 --> 00:32:46,560
Speaker 1: that goes down to John Gruden News in Tampa and

696
00:32:46,640 --> 00:32:49,240
Speaker 1: hire Sean McVay for his first job out of college

697
00:32:49,280 --> 00:32:51,000
Speaker 1: back in two thousand and eight, which is also a

698
00:32:51,040 --> 00:32:53,960
Speaker 1: key to leaves review. All these things are connected, which

699
00:32:54,000 --> 00:32:57,560
Speaker 1: is why those things look similar, both different personnel Gugers.

700
00:32:57,560 --> 00:33:00,040
Speaker 1: I'm a believer in the West Coast offense because I

701
00:33:00,040 --> 00:33:04,480
Speaker 1: had to defend against it. Yeah, and you can't. You can't.

702
00:33:04,600 --> 00:33:09,960
Speaker 1: When it's functioning on all cylinders. When the quarterback, receivers

703
00:33:09,960 --> 00:33:11,760
Speaker 1: and running backs are all in tune with each other,

704
00:33:11,880 --> 00:33:13,640
Speaker 1: it's impossible to stop. The ball is going to be

705
00:33:13,680 --> 00:33:16,120
Speaker 1: places you aren't. Yeah. Yeah, that's just how it is

706
00:33:16,120 --> 00:33:19,200
Speaker 1: on defense. So your only recourse is to turn up

707
00:33:19,240 --> 00:33:21,440
Speaker 1: the pressure, try to get to the quarterback faster, and

708
00:33:21,480 --> 00:33:23,720
Speaker 1: bump the receivers. If that doesn't work, they put thirty

709
00:33:23,720 --> 00:33:26,520
Speaker 1: five on you, right, Yeah, and bumping those guys rarely

710
00:33:26,520 --> 00:33:29,280
Speaker 1: ever works. Yeah, I'm a big fan in the West

711
00:33:29,280 --> 00:33:31,240
Speaker 1: Coast offense. I would run it. We saw how well

712
00:33:31,240 --> 00:33:35,440
Speaker 1: it worked last year. Absolutely. So if you can hear this, like,

713
00:33:35,520 --> 00:33:39,360
Speaker 1: these lifts are going up for practice, practice practice star Yeah. Man,

714
00:33:39,600 --> 00:33:42,360
Speaker 1: So that's why the it's maybe getting a little bit

715
00:33:42,400 --> 00:33:45,520
Speaker 1: loud pratice and the team's coming out. Yes, the team

716
00:33:45,560 --> 00:33:47,800
Speaker 1: is also coming out. And Jamal Brown is huge, good lord,

717
00:33:47,920 --> 00:33:51,320
Speaker 1: jam Brown is a big, big big thing, big guy.

718
00:33:51,320 --> 00:33:53,240
Speaker 1: Oh my Gosh, she's always really juice when it comes

719
00:33:53,240 --> 00:33:55,960
Speaker 1: out to practice. I like that. Oh yeah, loves to work. Yes,

720
00:33:56,560 --> 00:33:58,560
Speaker 1: what is it like? This is probably a better topic

721
00:33:58,600 --> 00:34:00,800
Speaker 1: for the first game of the Sular season, and I'm

722
00:34:00,800 --> 00:34:03,320
Speaker 1: sure we'll talk about it again. But when Dick Formil

723
00:34:03,560 --> 00:34:06,880
Speaker 1: came back to the Rams, right and you were a player,

724
00:34:07,280 --> 00:34:09,319
Speaker 1: what was it like to get a guy who had

725
00:34:09,320 --> 00:34:11,560
Speaker 1: been a head coach for a long time, been successful,

726
00:34:11,840 --> 00:34:14,319
Speaker 1: then goes to the booth and then he comes back out.

727
00:34:14,440 --> 00:34:18,120
Speaker 1: It was weird. Yeah, it was. It was weird. I remember.

728
00:34:18,600 --> 00:34:22,120
Speaker 1: I remember Dick Formil did one of my games in

729
00:34:22,160 --> 00:34:25,080
Speaker 1: college for ABC when we played Ohio State. Yeah, and

730
00:34:25,160 --> 00:34:28,680
Speaker 1: he said I was too small for the league. Huh. Yeah,

731
00:34:28,719 --> 00:34:30,960
Speaker 1: And I reminded him of that when I met him

732
00:34:31,000 --> 00:34:33,640
Speaker 1: the first time. Yeah, remember me, the too small guy. Yeah,

733
00:34:33,680 --> 00:34:36,000
Speaker 1: I'll be your tackle for the next ten years. Yeah.

734
00:34:36,040 --> 00:34:37,680
Speaker 1: But I mean it was, it was. It was great.

735
00:34:37,719 --> 00:34:39,680
Speaker 1: It got scary because I mean he's set in the

736
00:34:39,680 --> 00:34:41,520
Speaker 1: press conference there's only one way to become a good

737
00:34:41,560 --> 00:34:43,799
Speaker 1: football team, and that's too hard work and not about

738
00:34:43,840 --> 00:34:46,080
Speaker 1: scared the double d. Yeah. Yeah, and it was hard

739
00:34:46,120 --> 00:34:48,000
Speaker 1: for the first couple of years. But I mean he

740
00:34:48,080 --> 00:34:50,760
Speaker 1: was really trying to change the culture of the football program,

741
00:34:50,760 --> 00:34:53,480
Speaker 1: and that's not easy to do. No, just like Sean

742
00:34:53,560 --> 00:34:57,800
Speaker 1: McVay doing it so fast. That's amazing. Yeah, that's amazing

743
00:34:57,840 --> 00:35:00,560
Speaker 1: how fast he changed the culture. It took us two

744
00:35:00,640 --> 00:35:02,360
Speaker 1: years to get that done. Yeah, he did it in

745
00:35:02,400 --> 00:35:05,319
Speaker 1: less than a year. Yeah. So I think it's one

746
00:35:05,360 --> 00:35:07,400
Speaker 1: of these interesting storylines that I think we're gonna have

747
00:35:07,440 --> 00:35:09,560
Speaker 1: to talk about what the Raiders says. They continue to

748
00:35:09,600 --> 00:35:11,799
Speaker 1: go through things. What are some things that you would

749
00:35:11,800 --> 00:35:14,920
Speaker 1: like to see from the La Rams on Saturday? Well,

750
00:35:15,719 --> 00:35:19,319
Speaker 1: score more points, that's number one. Yeah. I'd like to

751
00:35:19,320 --> 00:35:22,600
Speaker 1: see Johnny Hecker punt better. Yeah, I think he was

752
00:35:22,680 --> 00:35:25,160
Speaker 1: trying some things last week. I hope. So, I mean,

753
00:35:25,200 --> 00:35:27,240
Speaker 1: but I mean, no one likes to see shank punks.

754
00:35:27,320 --> 00:35:29,399
Speaker 1: That was weird, at least of all him. So, I mean,

755
00:35:29,440 --> 00:35:32,400
Speaker 1: it was weird to see if Johnny heckerunk, but it's

756
00:35:32,440 --> 00:35:35,160
Speaker 1: not I mean, look, Johnny is not competing for a job. No,

757
00:35:35,320 --> 00:35:37,880
Speaker 1: but the other guys covering the punts are. So you

758
00:35:37,920 --> 00:35:40,400
Speaker 1: can't have shank punts because that's a wasted rent for

759
00:35:40,680 --> 00:35:43,200
Speaker 1: a guy out. Yeah, I'd like to see more of that.

760
00:35:43,239 --> 00:35:44,840
Speaker 1: Put the ball in play. Let guys go down and

761
00:35:44,880 --> 00:35:48,120
Speaker 1: make a play and impress people. Defensively speaking, get off

762
00:35:48,160 --> 00:35:53,040
Speaker 1: the field, my god, get off the And you might

763
00:35:53,160 --> 00:35:55,280
Speaker 1: not have a game plan, but I'm sure you're gonna

764
00:35:55,400 --> 00:35:58,200
Speaker 1: you're gonna rent plays that you saw that hurtchie versus Baltimore.

765
00:35:58,200 --> 00:36:01,279
Speaker 1: See when you do see them again, you'll play them better. Yes, yeah,

766
00:36:01,280 --> 00:36:04,080
Speaker 1: but number one on defense, get off the field. I

767
00:36:04,120 --> 00:36:06,840
Speaker 1: think they had some opportunities to get off the field.

768
00:36:07,160 --> 00:36:10,919
Speaker 1: And then sometimes whether it was a penalty or something else,

769
00:36:11,080 --> 00:36:14,440
Speaker 1: things just kind of happened, right And then yeah, two

770
00:36:14,480 --> 00:36:17,480
Speaker 1: helmet penalties. We didn't talk about that earlier. When we're

771
00:36:17,480 --> 00:36:19,879
Speaker 1: recapping a game against Baltimore. What did you think of that?

772
00:36:20,239 --> 00:36:22,719
Speaker 1: Those calls? If well, I read this and it's a

773
00:36:22,719 --> 00:36:25,520
Speaker 1: headline I saw, so I'm kind of stealing it. If

774
00:36:25,560 --> 00:36:30,600
Speaker 1: those are penalties, we're in trouble as football fans. If

775
00:36:30,640 --> 00:36:34,080
Speaker 1: what was called on game day Thursday in Baltimore on

776
00:36:34,200 --> 00:36:37,400
Speaker 1: Marquis Christian and Blake Countess, if those are now penalties,

777
00:36:37,719 --> 00:36:40,919
Speaker 1: we're in trouble. Yeah. Yeah, that's two safeties doing their job.

778
00:36:40,960 --> 00:36:44,319
Speaker 1: They're the last line of defense. I don't think there

779
00:36:44,360 --> 00:36:46,480
Speaker 1: was malicious intent. They're just trying to get the guy

780
00:36:46,480 --> 00:36:48,880
Speaker 1: on the ground. Well, there's no but that's part of it.

781
00:36:48,960 --> 00:36:52,520
Speaker 1: You know. The malicious intent thing doesn't matter, I know.

782
00:36:53,280 --> 00:36:55,719
Speaker 1: So that's they're just trying your best to get the

783
00:36:55,760 --> 00:36:57,640
Speaker 1: head out of the game. Well I don't know this,

784
00:36:57,760 --> 00:36:59,680
Speaker 1: and maybe JB. Long knows this. I don't know where

785
00:36:59,680 --> 00:37:04,120
Speaker 1: they're in any offensive helmet calls, not rules any of

786
00:37:04,280 --> 00:37:09,560
Speaker 1: preseason game number one. Yeah, okay, yeah, maybe offsetting that

787
00:37:10,040 --> 00:37:12,279
Speaker 1: I didn't see any cause I knew the watch the

788
00:37:12,320 --> 00:37:18,280
Speaker 1: defensive calls. Okay, so Riveron pointed out some on tape.

789
00:37:18,360 --> 00:37:20,239
Speaker 1: Is J Long tells us from the side of the

790
00:37:22,440 --> 00:37:25,120
Speaker 1: well when they do call it, let me know. Yeah, yeah,

791
00:37:25,200 --> 00:37:27,320
Speaker 1: I don't think we're gonna see many of the offense.

792
00:37:27,400 --> 00:37:29,320
Speaker 1: I just don't. I don't. I don't think that officials

793
00:37:29,360 --> 00:37:30,960
Speaker 1: not to look for that. You should have seen the

794
00:37:30,960 --> 00:37:35,000
Speaker 1: players that weren't playing the defensive players starters for the Rams,

795
00:37:35,239 --> 00:37:38,920
Speaker 1: when those penalty flags came out and their reaction like

796
00:37:39,160 --> 00:37:40,759
Speaker 1: where do you want me to hit the guy? Yeah?

797
00:37:40,840 --> 00:37:42,960
Speaker 1: And guys were pointing at the ankle, at the knee

798
00:37:42,960 --> 00:37:45,080
Speaker 1: and like this, that's not where you want to hit again.

799
00:37:45,120 --> 00:37:47,759
Speaker 1: That's how you end the guy. Yes, Yeah. So if

800
00:37:47,800 --> 00:37:51,680
Speaker 1: that's a penalty, my only recourse is to take the waist. Yeah,

801
00:37:51,760 --> 00:37:53,920
Speaker 1: you gotta go low um. One other thing that I

802
00:37:53,960 --> 00:37:55,759
Speaker 1: think we want to see out of this game though,

803
00:37:55,800 --> 00:37:58,520
Speaker 1: when you talk about offensive players, just these young ols

804
00:37:58,560 --> 00:38:01,320
Speaker 1: just continuing to progress. One thing I thought was interesting

805
00:38:01,360 --> 00:38:04,440
Speaker 1: from the other day, got to see Joe note Boom

806
00:38:04,480 --> 00:38:07,480
Speaker 1: and Brian Allen take some snaps with the ones because

807
00:38:07,560 --> 00:38:10,400
Speaker 1: the veterans were having their rest days, so guys like Sappled,

808
00:38:10,440 --> 00:38:13,200
Speaker 1: Whitworth and Sullivan we're all out. So he saw a

809
00:38:13,280 --> 00:38:15,400
Speaker 1: note Boom at left tackle and then Brian Allen at

810
00:38:15,400 --> 00:38:17,799
Speaker 1: the center. That was nice to see. I talked to

811
00:38:17,800 --> 00:38:20,000
Speaker 1: Brian Allen afterwards and he was like, you know, made

812
00:38:20,000 --> 00:38:23,000
Speaker 1: too many rookie mistakes. Saw him snap a couple balls.

813
00:38:23,000 --> 00:38:25,280
Speaker 1: Shotgun snaps are a little bit low, and I'd assume

814
00:38:25,320 --> 00:38:27,720
Speaker 1: that that's what he's talking about. But just the fact

815
00:38:27,760 --> 00:38:30,320
Speaker 1: that you can put those guys in there with the starters,

816
00:38:30,880 --> 00:38:34,160
Speaker 1: that means something. Yes, And it's the man unal Like

817
00:38:34,200 --> 00:38:35,680
Speaker 1: we talked about, if you put him in with the

818
00:38:35,719 --> 00:38:39,160
Speaker 1: starting oh line, the starting offense, he'll look better. If

819
00:38:39,200 --> 00:38:41,200
Speaker 1: you have to start a rookie on the offensive line

820
00:38:41,200 --> 00:38:43,280
Speaker 1: as long as he's surrounded by ten other good people,

821
00:38:43,640 --> 00:38:46,320
Speaker 1: it's easier to hide or it won't be as magnified.

822
00:38:46,360 --> 00:38:50,440
Speaker 1: But when there's five rookies or guys with not so

823
00:38:50,520 --> 00:38:53,280
Speaker 1: much experience versus a great defense or a good defense,

824
00:38:53,800 --> 00:38:56,759
Speaker 1: well your quarterback's gonna suffer. Yes, both quarterbacks took some

825
00:38:56,800 --> 00:38:59,239
Speaker 1: shots on game. Oh yeah, yeah you don't. You don't

826
00:38:59,280 --> 00:39:02,080
Speaker 1: want to see that. When Alan got hit that blindside shot.

827
00:39:02,680 --> 00:39:04,920
Speaker 1: I thought the most impressive thing about that play was

828
00:39:04,960 --> 00:39:07,600
Speaker 1: he got up. I mean that is that is a

829
00:39:07,719 --> 00:39:10,600
Speaker 1: knockout shot on a quarterback when you hit him like that. Yeah. Yeah,

830
00:39:10,760 --> 00:39:12,520
Speaker 1: And that's that's what you're kind of saying about. You

831
00:39:12,520 --> 00:39:14,359
Speaker 1: gotta let the donkey get the carrot once in a while.

832
00:39:15,320 --> 00:39:17,200
Speaker 1: If you want him to keep pulling the wagon, give

833
00:39:17,280 --> 00:39:19,560
Speaker 1: him a carrot. You know what. You're not gonna feed

834
00:39:19,560 --> 00:39:23,840
Speaker 1: me this thing anyway. Okay, one more thing and we'll

835
00:39:23,920 --> 00:39:26,120
Speaker 1: leave on this. No, do you have you watched you

836
00:39:26,160 --> 00:39:28,000
Speaker 1: don't get We don't have to break. We can keep going.

837
00:39:28,320 --> 00:39:31,239
Speaker 1: I'm kidding. Go ahead. I'm trying to make up for

838
00:39:31,239 --> 00:39:33,560
Speaker 1: the Whitfield thing. Yeah, I'm just saying he was making

839
00:39:33,560 --> 00:39:35,200
Speaker 1: it worse. I'm trying to make him smile too. It's

840
00:39:35,239 --> 00:39:37,600
Speaker 1: not working. Yeah, it's not working now. Yeah, there we go.

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Speaker 1: We gotta laugh on all right. So have you been

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Speaker 1: watching Hard Knocks? Yes? Did you see the one from

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Speaker 1: last night? I haven't, No, okay, Yes. There was a

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Speaker 1: scene in there that is somewhat relevant to the Rams

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Speaker 1: because Greg Robinson has been taking some reps at left

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Speaker 1: tackle for the clear. So they have Miles Garrett in there, right, Yeah,

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00:39:57,719 --> 00:40:00,920
Speaker 1: they did a little vignette. Yeah, Miles Garrett's rushing falls,

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Speaker 1: Miles Garrett bull rushes Greg Robinson like drives him back

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Speaker 1: maybe five seven eight yards. Greg starts going seriously seriously,

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Speaker 1: and Miles Garrett like locks him back, you know, this

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Speaker 1: big swollen arm of THESS like what what I'm pass rushing? What?

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Speaker 1: And Hugh Jackson has to come in and be like,

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Speaker 1: hey man, you just can't let him do that to you,

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Speaker 1: like right, he like you're mad because he's beating you? Wow?

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Speaker 1: Oh man? Yeah, oh great. So I thought that was

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Speaker 1: a little interesting. Haven't seen anything like that from Joe noteboom.

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Speaker 1: So that I was talking to a friend and we

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00:40:35,800 --> 00:40:37,440
Speaker 1: were talking about when I was a rookie and how

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Speaker 1: people would try to fight me because I had one speed, right,

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Speaker 1: and a guy told me, hey, man, it's just practice,

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Speaker 1: And I said, what's the difference. The ball moved, didn't it. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I came out here to bully you down. What'd you

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Speaker 1: come out here to do? Right? Yeah? So if you

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Speaker 1: don't want to practice, if you don't like my tempo,

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Speaker 1: there's the head jokes, go tell him. Yeah exactly, yeah, exactly.

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Speaker 1: If you want to play, let's play. That's how we

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Speaker 1: get better, right, exactly right? Any party, chops, I think

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Speaker 1: that was it? Yeah, yeah, that was mine. Sorry, Whitworth,

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Speaker 1: You're not Bob Whitfield. You play in the same position,

870
00:41:08,200 --> 00:41:12,520
Speaker 1: plays really well, really does. He's really really talented. This

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Speaker 1: team is so fortunate to have him, really really fortunate

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Speaker 1: to have a established great left tackle. Those guys just

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00:41:22,000 --> 00:41:27,719
Speaker 1: don't come along every other they don't. And it is development, yes,

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Speaker 1: it is. And so man, the fact that you got one, Yes,

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Speaker 1: we saw what kind of you know, engineering that could

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Speaker 1: do in terms of taking over an offense and transitioning

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Speaker 1: it into an actually good one. I would encourage every

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Speaker 1: Rams fan just to put a present for Andrew Whitworth

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Speaker 1: under their tree or on Christmas time, just you know,

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00:41:45,600 --> 00:41:48,479
Speaker 1: just put one under their for him, Just say thank you. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: he's doing more for you than you know. That is

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00:41:50,840 --> 00:41:53,680
Speaker 1: what a good left. Yes, that's like you with me.

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Speaker 1: You're like my left tackle to Mark Well, I'm on

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Speaker 1: the right side, though, you are. You make me go

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00:41:57,560 --> 00:41:59,719
Speaker 1: on the right side being on the what a go?

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00:42:00,200 --> 00:42:01,640
Speaker 1: I used to block on the left. I was playing

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Speaker 1: football high school. Anyway, let's wrap up this edition off

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Speaker 1: Between the Horns. Thanks so much for listening everybody. You

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Speaker 1: can make sure to tune into the game on Saturday

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Speaker 1: at one o'clock. It's going to be on Case CBS

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00:42:13,040 --> 00:42:15,840
Speaker 1: here in Los Angeles. Check your local listenings otherwise. Also,

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Speaker 1: maybe you can check out that stream on the Rams

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00:42:18,280 --> 00:42:20,520
Speaker 1: dot com if you are in Los Angeles or in

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00:42:20,560 --> 00:42:23,200
Speaker 1: one of our affiliate markets. Otherwise, you can listen to

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Speaker 1: the call with Jblong, MJD and this guy DeMarco Farr

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Speaker 1: RADL Saturday. Yeah, can't wait dot right guy. Thanks listening

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Speaker 1: to Between the Horns. To see you next time.