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Speaker 1: Here's the game plan. We had some news today DeAndre

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Speaker 1: give a little runway. Mark Davis is a guy that

427
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Speaker 1: does not want to go on coaching searches, right, he

428
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Speaker 1: just doesn't. So I didn't put Josh McDaniels. I think

429
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Speaker 1: he more than McCarthy, would be my strongest honorable mention. Okay,

430
00:22:42,560 --> 00:22:45,640
Speaker 1: starting at five, me and Colin last week talked about

431
00:22:45,640 --> 00:22:48,159
Speaker 1: this guy. The elephant in the room with Belichick is

432
00:22:48,920 --> 00:22:52,439
Speaker 1: he's not just on scholarship for life and historically, like

433
00:22:52,800 --> 00:22:56,680
Speaker 1: some great coaches, Bill Walsh kind of had a mental breakdown. Left.

434
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Speaker 1: He wasn't gonna get fired. He just won a Super

435
00:22:58,359 --> 00:23:03,320
Speaker 1: Bowl Landry with the cow Boys. Jerry fired Chuck Noll

436
00:23:03,440 --> 00:23:06,800
Speaker 1: with the Steelers. I think did the quote unquote walk away. Now,

437
00:23:06,880 --> 00:23:11,240
Speaker 1: even if Bill was fired, I was thinking about this today. Actually,

438
00:23:12,200 --> 00:23:15,280
Speaker 1: I think the Patriots would like to release something. Let's

439
00:23:15,280 --> 00:23:18,119
Speaker 1: say they went seven to ten, we have mutually departed,

440
00:23:18,240 --> 00:23:20,320
Speaker 1: or we have just come to an agreement. It's just

441
00:23:20,440 --> 00:23:23,760
Speaker 1: best we both agreed. I think Bill is petty enough.

442
00:23:24,119 --> 00:23:27,080
Speaker 1: I think he's old school enough. I think he's just

443
00:23:27,600 --> 00:23:30,320
Speaker 1: prickly enough to refuse to put his name on that.

444
00:23:30,840 --> 00:23:32,679
Speaker 1: So if it ever got to the point, I do

445
00:23:32,720 --> 00:23:34,960
Speaker 1: think it would get ugly. Now. The reason I didn't

446
00:23:34,960 --> 00:23:36,640
Speaker 1: put him higher on the list because I think there's

447
00:23:36,680 --> 00:23:40,720
Speaker 1: a potential for them to go like nine and eight,

448
00:23:41,280 --> 00:23:45,000
Speaker 1: or even best case, ten and seven, missed the playoffs

449
00:23:45,480 --> 00:23:48,440
Speaker 1: and him still keep his job just because they're interesting enough,

450
00:23:48,480 --> 00:23:52,080
Speaker 1: they're competitive enough, the stadium is still full, and it's

451
00:23:52,119 --> 00:23:55,560
Speaker 1: like his equity with the franchise is enough to not fire.

452
00:23:56,359 --> 00:23:58,600
Speaker 1: I do believe, though, if they go under five hundred

453
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Speaker 1: eight and nine or worse, which two of the last

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Speaker 1: three years he has gone under five hundred and even

455
00:24:04,600 --> 00:24:06,399
Speaker 1: the year which I thought was a pretty good coaching

456
00:24:06,480 --> 00:24:08,600
Speaker 1: job in mac Jones's rookie season, when he went ten

457
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Speaker 1: and seven. They did lose in the wild card forty

458
00:24:13,080 --> 00:24:16,520
Speaker 1: seven to seventeen to the Buffalo Bills, and if memory

459
00:24:16,560 --> 00:24:19,639
Speaker 1: serves me correct, the Bills did not punt in that game.

460
00:24:20,040 --> 00:24:21,720
Speaker 1: So it's one thing to lose to a random team.

461
00:24:21,760 --> 00:24:24,199
Speaker 1: It's another thing to lose in the first round to

462
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Speaker 1: a team in your division and get curb stomped like

463
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Speaker 1: that happened a couple of years ago to the Cardinals

464
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Speaker 1: in the Rams. Remember when the Rams just like we're

465
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Speaker 1: your daddy, like you guys are an embarrassment and absolutely

466
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Speaker 1: of this ray of the Cardinals on Monday Night football

467
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Speaker 1: in the playoffs, those games sometimes one thing to lose

468
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Speaker 1: in the playoffs. You know, the Cowboys lost in the

469
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Speaker 1: second round. They had a formidable, you know, admirable effort.

470
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Speaker 1: It was not, by any means an embarrassment. Forty seven

471
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Speaker 1: to seventeen. That's hard, especially when you're used to the

472
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Speaker 1: standard of the Belichick and Brady error. But to me,

473
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Speaker 1: it's less about that season, more about two of the

474
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Speaker 1: other three years seven to nine. Obviously Brady won the

475
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Speaker 1: Super Bowl ye and last year eight and nine, and

476
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Speaker 1: it didn't really feel that close. So to me, they

477
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Speaker 1: go eight to nine or seven and ten, I think

478
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Speaker 1: this Bill's last year. And I'm not acting like he

479
00:25:08,800 --> 00:25:11,879
Speaker 1: deserves to get fired or he's some complete failure, but

480
00:25:11,920 --> 00:25:14,760
Speaker 1: it's not going well and everyone and a lot of

481
00:25:14,840 --> 00:25:17,679
Speaker 1: coaches have talked about this. Either their message gets stale.

482
00:25:17,960 --> 00:25:20,560
Speaker 1: It's just sometimes it's just time for a change. Right now.

483
00:25:20,600 --> 00:25:23,359
Speaker 1: You don't just keep a job in perpetuity that you

484
00:25:23,520 --> 00:25:26,960
Speaker 1: don't own. And there are obviously a lot of variables. Historically,

485
00:25:27,040 --> 00:25:29,280
Speaker 1: is Bill the nicest to the owner. It doesn't matter

486
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Speaker 1: when you're winning, you're hosting playoff games, you're going to

487
00:25:32,119 --> 00:25:35,280
Speaker 1: AFC championship games, you're winning Super Bowls, you're printing money

488
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Speaker 1: for your owners. It's another thing when you're going eight

489
00:25:37,600 --> 00:25:40,280
Speaker 1: to nine, seven and ten, everyone in town is talking

490
00:25:40,320 --> 00:25:43,560
Speaker 1: shit about you and wondering is it time for a change.

491
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Speaker 1: So to me, Bill is right there at number five,

492
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Speaker 1: number four. I went to college here because I think

493
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Speaker 1: when you factor in the brand and the move next

494
00:25:55,640 --> 00:25:58,879
Speaker 1: year to the SEC, I think Steve Sarkisian needs to

495
00:25:58,920 --> 00:26:02,160
Speaker 1: win double digit games this year. Now, history would show

496
00:26:02,240 --> 00:26:05,560
Speaker 1: us he's not gonna do that. Why he's never won

497
00:26:05,640 --> 00:26:08,600
Speaker 1: double digit games in all of his years coaching. The

498
00:26:08,640 --> 00:26:12,000
Speaker 1: most games he's ever won was a decade ago at

499
00:26:12,119 --> 00:26:15,560
Speaker 1: USC he went nine to four. He averaged in five

500
00:26:15,680 --> 00:26:19,239
Speaker 1: seasons at Washington six point eight wins. You go, well,

501
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Speaker 1: it's Washington, Yeah, Chris Peterson won big there, Kaylin de

502
00:26:23,200 --> 00:26:27,200
Speaker 1: Bore winning big there. You can win at Washington. Sark

503
00:26:27,640 --> 00:26:31,359
Speaker 1: did not. The other thing his time at Texas hasn't

504
00:26:31,400 --> 00:26:34,240
Speaker 1: gone that well. Two years ago five and seven pretty ugly.

505
00:26:35,040 --> 00:26:37,520
Speaker 1: I think last year was even uglier because of the

506
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Speaker 1: talent they had on their team. They had elite running backs.

507
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Speaker 1: I mean, they played in a conference that isn't very

508
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Speaker 1: good and they went eight and five. If he goes

509
00:26:47,840 --> 00:26:50,560
Speaker 1: eight and five again this year, I think he would

510
00:26:50,600 --> 00:26:53,640
Speaker 1: be in major trouble. They're going to the SEC next year.

511
00:26:54,080 --> 00:26:56,960
Speaker 1: He has proven nothing. It'd be one thing. Part of

512
00:26:57,000 --> 00:26:59,919
Speaker 1: the reason Jim Harbaugh was able to just kind of

513
00:27:00,080 --> 00:27:03,160
Speaker 1: navigate when things got a little weird is his resume.

514
00:27:03,560 --> 00:27:05,280
Speaker 1: It's like, well, this guy has been a winner his

515
00:27:05,440 --> 00:27:08,520
Speaker 1: entire life. He will figure it out. Look at what

516
00:27:08,560 --> 00:27:11,320
Speaker 1: this guy did early on when he got here. Obviously

517
00:27:11,400 --> 00:27:14,040
Speaker 1: with the forty nine ers at Stanford. He's our guy.

518
00:27:14,160 --> 00:27:17,720
Speaker 1: But he's proven it, so let's stick with him. And

519
00:27:17,760 --> 00:27:19,720
Speaker 1: that's played out. It took a little bit longer, but

520
00:27:19,880 --> 00:27:22,200
Speaker 1: back to back playoffs, right, and now it's like the

521
00:27:22,240 --> 00:27:24,320
Speaker 1: standards so high. It's like, can he win in the playoffs?

522
00:27:25,119 --> 00:27:27,159
Speaker 1: Sark would die just to be in the Big twelve

523
00:27:27,240 --> 00:27:30,760
Speaker 1: championship game. And I think I saw a headline last

524
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Speaker 1: last week is the goal is to win the Big

525
00:27:33,400 --> 00:27:36,560
Speaker 1: twelve B. The goal should just be to win, like,

526
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Speaker 1: not lose conference games, not lose to Texas Tech, not

527
00:27:40,800 --> 00:27:44,320
Speaker 1: lose to Kansas. But if you're losing those games, you

528
00:27:44,400 --> 00:27:48,200
Speaker 1: don't have a snowballs chance in hell against the Tennessees,

529
00:27:48,240 --> 00:27:52,080
Speaker 1: the Georgia's, the Alabamas, the Lsus and the Old Missus.

530
00:27:52,359 --> 00:27:57,320
Speaker 1: They're going to destroy you. So the only thing I

531
00:27:57,320 --> 00:28:01,240
Speaker 1: could see keeping his head above water is the recruitment

532
00:28:01,400 --> 00:28:05,119
Speaker 1: in the Landing of Arch Manning. So maybe that has

533
00:28:05,160 --> 00:28:08,600
Speaker 1: some you know, ability to keep his head afloat. If

534
00:28:08,600 --> 00:28:11,160
Speaker 1: this year is another eight and five with quin viewers

535
00:28:11,200 --> 00:28:13,480
Speaker 1: and it just looks a little weird, maybe Arch goes

536
00:28:13,480 --> 00:28:16,800
Speaker 1: to the mat form. But I don't know, Man, I

537
00:28:17,280 --> 00:28:20,520
Speaker 1: think anything less than ten wins, I would say sarks

538
00:28:20,600 --> 00:28:23,159
Speaker 1: job is in major, major jeopardy. We're gonna end with

539
00:28:23,200 --> 00:28:29,520
Speaker 1: three NFL coaches, Number three, Robert Sala. Anytime you're in

540
00:28:29,560 --> 00:28:31,719
Speaker 1: a big market, a lot more eyeballs, a lot more

541
00:28:31,760 --> 00:28:34,879
Speaker 1: people talking about you. Anytime you trade for one of

542
00:28:34,920 --> 00:28:38,360
Speaker 1: the greatest quarterbacks of all time, obviously there puts a

543
00:28:38,400 --> 00:28:41,960
Speaker 1: lot more pressure on your organization. And I do think

544
00:28:42,080 --> 00:28:45,040
Speaker 1: one reason, several reasons and a lot of people have

545
00:28:45,080 --> 00:28:47,480
Speaker 1: talked about this Hard Knocks. No one wants Hard Knocks

546
00:28:47,520 --> 00:28:50,600
Speaker 1: in their building, and we can argue if nobody wants

547
00:28:50,640 --> 00:28:53,240
Speaker 1: this in the entire league to be part of it,

548
00:28:53,280 --> 00:28:56,840
Speaker 1: isn't it time to pivot. I don't understand the point

549
00:28:56,840 --> 00:28:59,680
Speaker 1: of the show if no one wants it, especially when

550
00:28:59,680 --> 00:29:03,400
Speaker 1: the show just kind of replicates what we see on

551
00:29:03,440 --> 00:29:07,040
Speaker 1: these teams website. If I can get the same information

552
00:29:07,400 --> 00:29:09,560
Speaker 1: from going to jets dot com, they put out a

553
00:29:09,600 --> 00:29:12,080
Speaker 1: show it's going to be very similar to what we

554
00:29:12,120 --> 00:29:15,720
Speaker 1: get in Hard Knocks because they have editorial control. So

555
00:29:15,800 --> 00:29:18,160
Speaker 1: if we are getting the same thing, why don't we

556
00:29:18,200 --> 00:29:21,400
Speaker 1: just end this show? Right? I mean, just just pretend

557
00:29:21,440 --> 00:29:25,400
Speaker 1: it it's no longer what it is, and the partners

558
00:29:25,440 --> 00:29:27,360
Speaker 1: in the league that are making you the money don't

559
00:29:27,360 --> 00:29:30,200
Speaker 1: want any part of it. It is not necessary anymore

560
00:29:30,240 --> 00:29:32,840
Speaker 1: for the growth of the game, in my opinion. But

561
00:29:32,920 --> 00:29:34,480
Speaker 1: part of the reason he doesn't want it. It just

562
00:29:34,560 --> 00:29:39,080
Speaker 1: adds an element of pressure. And I think that if

563
00:29:39,080 --> 00:29:42,320
Speaker 1: they don't make the playoffs, he's done, and I think

564
00:29:42,400 --> 00:29:45,320
Speaker 1: Joe Douglas would be done. Now I think highly of it.

565
00:29:45,920 --> 00:29:48,120
Speaker 1: I think, you know, when I say Bill Belichick's on

566
00:29:48,120 --> 00:29:50,880
Speaker 1: the hot seat. I still think he's the greatest NFL

567
00:29:50,920 --> 00:29:53,160
Speaker 1: coach of all time. I think robertsaul is he a

568
00:29:53,200 --> 00:29:54,920
Speaker 1: good head coach. I don't know. He could be my

569
00:29:54,960 --> 00:29:58,400
Speaker 1: defensive coordinator any day. Is Joe Douglas a good GM?

570
00:29:59,320 --> 00:30:01,280
Speaker 1: Has he hit on a lot of players one hundred percent?

571
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Speaker 1: Anytime you draft a quarterback in number two, and it's

572
00:30:04,440 --> 00:30:08,320
Speaker 1: as colossal of a miss as it is. Your clock

573
00:30:08,360 --> 00:30:11,360
Speaker 1: starts when you're not winning. The forty nine ers might

574
00:30:11,360 --> 00:30:13,240
Speaker 1: have done it, but they kept winning. If you win,

575
00:30:13,280 --> 00:30:15,240
Speaker 1: who cares you can miss on all the draft picks

576
00:30:15,280 --> 00:30:18,280
Speaker 1: in the fucking world. No one gives a shit when

577
00:30:18,360 --> 00:30:20,360
Speaker 1: you win, who you draft, who you sign a free agent,

578
00:30:20,400 --> 00:30:23,160
Speaker 1: None of it matters. Belichick is missing a lot of

579
00:30:23,200 --> 00:30:25,640
Speaker 1: draft picks. When he was winning thirteen games a year

580
00:30:25,840 --> 00:30:27,920
Speaker 1: going to the Super Bowl, we didn't talk about you

581
00:30:27,960 --> 00:30:31,240
Speaker 1: sure winning eight games. We talk about Aaron Rodgers a

582
00:30:31,280 --> 00:30:34,840
Speaker 1: little bit of cover for all those mistakes. Now, if

583
00:30:34,840 --> 00:30:36,600
Speaker 1: he plays as well as he did in twenty twenty

584
00:30:36,600 --> 00:30:39,040
Speaker 1: and twenty twenty one, the Jets will be in the playoffs.

585
00:30:39,480 --> 00:30:42,040
Speaker 1: But if the Dolphins keep their quarterback healthy and they're

586
00:30:42,040 --> 00:30:44,200
Speaker 1: good again, the Bills keep rolling. We know a stack.

587
00:30:44,240 --> 00:30:48,680
Speaker 1: The AFC is Belichick's feisty you missed the playoffs. I

588
00:30:48,680 --> 00:30:51,480
Speaker 1: think Robert Sallin and I would include Joe Douglas would

589
00:30:51,480 --> 00:30:57,680
Speaker 1: be audios number two. This one's pretty simple. Anytime you

590
00:30:57,720 --> 00:31:02,320
Speaker 1: get new ownership in the NIL or in any sport,

591
00:31:02,560 --> 00:31:04,520
Speaker 1: everything is up in the air when it comes to

592
00:31:04,560 --> 00:31:07,880
Speaker 1: head coaching and executives with the team. That includes people

593
00:31:07,960 --> 00:31:10,959
Speaker 1: not just the GM but team president. Like everyone's job

594
00:31:11,080 --> 00:31:15,160
Speaker 1: is on the line. And Josh Harris, who owns the Sixers,

595
00:31:15,160 --> 00:31:17,560
Speaker 1: has just shown like he's just fired Doc Rivers. They're

596
00:31:17,560 --> 00:31:20,280
Speaker 1: going to playoffs every year. He's fired g He's fired

597
00:31:20,400 --> 00:31:23,000
Speaker 1: Brett Brown who was winning now not winning at the

598
00:31:23,040 --> 00:31:24,920
Speaker 1: highest level. But it's not like the Sixers are used

599
00:31:24,920 --> 00:31:28,840
Speaker 1: to much success, right, So this guy and in the NFL,

600
00:31:28,880 --> 00:31:30,840
Speaker 1: we see it all the time. You get a new

601
00:31:30,960 --> 00:31:33,080
Speaker 1: you get a new owner. Maybe that head coach gets

602
00:31:33,080 --> 00:31:37,240
Speaker 1: a year. Honestly, even if he's somewhat successful, goes above

603
00:31:37,280 --> 00:31:40,320
Speaker 1: five hundred, makes a wild card that doesn't guarantee him anything.

604
00:31:41,160 --> 00:31:44,160
Speaker 1: And a lot like you know, speaking of the college

605
00:31:44,200 --> 00:31:48,160
Speaker 1: coaches that have some equity, Ron Rivera's history is not great.

606
00:31:48,720 --> 00:31:52,000
Speaker 1: His three career playoff victories. He has never had a

607
00:31:52,040 --> 00:31:55,239
Speaker 1: winning season in his three years with Washington. They went

608
00:31:55,280 --> 00:31:57,880
Speaker 1: to the playoffs his first year, but he was seven

609
00:31:57,920 --> 00:32:01,560
Speaker 1: and nine. Division was a joke. So I think this

610
00:32:01,680 --> 00:32:04,840
Speaker 1: one simple. Ron not only has to make the playoffs.

611
00:32:06,000 --> 00:32:08,240
Speaker 1: I think he'd probably have to win a game to survive.

612
00:32:08,960 --> 00:32:10,960
Speaker 1: And even then, I don't think he guarantees you anything.

613
00:32:11,360 --> 00:32:14,640
Speaker 1: We just saw the Phoenix Suns. Guy pays all this

614
00:32:14,720 --> 00:32:18,360
Speaker 1: money for the Phoenix Suns. Their head coach had got

615
00:32:18,400 --> 00:32:20,880
Speaker 1: to a finals before, was in the second round the

616
00:32:20,880 --> 00:32:24,880
Speaker 1: playff seeya, audios, you're gone. Matt Ishbie is like, peace out, brother,

617
00:32:25,400 --> 00:32:28,600
Speaker 1: nice knowing you. It's been real, it's been fun. Heard

618
00:32:28,600 --> 00:32:31,320
Speaker 1: you're pretty good. But see you later. That guy guy

619
00:32:31,400 --> 00:32:33,520
Speaker 1: like eighty million dollars ago the Detroit Pistons. He's a

620
00:32:33,600 --> 00:32:37,719
Speaker 1: legitimate NBA coach. Didn't matter. Ron Rivera, I don't think

621
00:32:37,760 --> 00:32:39,720
Speaker 1: would be a head coach anymore. Who knows, maybe he

622
00:32:39,760 --> 00:32:43,320
Speaker 1: did not even coach anymore. But I think anything less

623
00:32:43,360 --> 00:32:47,600
Speaker 1: than a playoff victory, because I'd be hard for us

624
00:32:47,640 --> 00:32:51,280
Speaker 1: to see them. How could they win the division? Honestly,

625
00:32:51,600 --> 00:32:54,320
Speaker 1: best case scenario, they would be third place in that division.

626
00:32:54,360 --> 00:32:57,320
Speaker 1: But behind the Cowboys in the Eagles, but would be

627
00:32:57,360 --> 00:33:00,360
Speaker 1: some postseason success and kind of prove that made they

628
00:33:00,400 --> 00:33:02,280
Speaker 1: got a gym and Sam how like once upon a

629
00:33:02,280 --> 00:33:04,960
Speaker 1: time they had in Kirk Cousins as a mid round pick.

630
00:33:06,280 --> 00:33:09,360
Speaker 1: And first, I think by a wide margin is Brandon

631
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Speaker 1: Saley because unlike these guys Belichick, Mac Jones, Robert solip

632
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Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers, but he's old and he could retire, and

633
00:33:16,760 --> 00:33:20,200
Speaker 1: Ron Rivera not really a quarterback, Brandon Staley as Justin Herbert,

634
00:33:20,240 --> 00:33:22,560
Speaker 1: who's in his mid twenties, who every team in the

635
00:33:22,600 --> 00:33:28,280
Speaker 1: league beside like the Bills, the Bengals, and shit, the

636
00:33:28,400 --> 00:33:32,400
Speaker 1: Chiefs would take their quarterback right The Ravens would trade

637
00:33:32,440 --> 00:33:37,720
Speaker 1: for Justin Herbert yesterday they would. So you have Justin Herbert.

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Speaker 1: You struck oil and got lucky because Toole was taken

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Speaker 1: ahead of him. It's one of the great and I

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Speaker 1: understand it at the time. Justin Herbert is a much

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Speaker 1: better NFL player than he was a college player. And

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Speaker 1: he was a solid college player, but he has shocked

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Speaker 1: a lot of us. I watched him a lot in college.

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Speaker 1: I liked him, but I never thought he'd be a

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Speaker 1: top five quarterback. Turns out he is. Anytime you have

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Speaker 1: that with a lot of talent on your roster. I'll

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Speaker 1: say this for Tom Telesco. He has done a really

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Speaker 1: good job over the years. Hasn't been perfect, no gm is.

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Speaker 1: I don't necessarily blame him for the coaching hires because

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Speaker 1: I do think their owner plays a huge, huge role

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Speaker 1: in it. Doesn't want to pay any money. He doesn't

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Speaker 1: want a fifteen million dollar coach. He likes having a

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Speaker 1: coach who is toward the bottom of the barrel when

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Speaker 1: it comes to coaching salaries. And he got Brandon Salor,

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Speaker 1: who's was a good defensive coordinator for the one year

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Speaker 1: he was a defensive coordinator in the NFL, but last

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Speaker 1: year was pretty embarrassing. He's up big in the first

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Speaker 1: half in a wildcard game where the other quarterback throws

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Speaker 1: four interceptions. He's up twenty seven to zero at one

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Speaker 1: point time. I think that the jack scored right before

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Speaker 1: I halftime to make it twenty seven to seven. Under

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Speaker 1: no circumstances can you lose that game. So it's not

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Speaker 1: just they've underachieved, it's the one playoff game that he

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Speaker 1: did coach in was an all time disaster. And I

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Speaker 1: don't expect him to win the division. But when you

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Speaker 1: have a player of Justin Herbert's a Bill, and you

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Speaker 1: have the talent in which you have all over the roster,

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Speaker 1: you got to make some noise in the playoffs. I

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Speaker 1: think anything less than a playoff victory audios Brandon Staley,

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Speaker 1: and if their offense is better in their defense that

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Speaker 1: has had moments over last year, ultimately let him down

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Speaker 1: in the playoffs. Colin and I talked about this too,

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Speaker 1: that they're not hiring some Sean Payton. They're not hiring

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Speaker 1: whoever the Bill Parcells is. They're not Lincoln Riley. He's

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Speaker 1: not spending sixteen seventeen million dollars on Lincoln Riley. Kellen

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Speaker 1: Moore will be the next head coach. So I think

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Speaker 1: Brandon Staley is basically just coaching to make sure that

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Speaker 1: Kellen Moore is not the head coach of the the

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Speaker 1: Los Angeles Chargers. In twenty twenty four, the volume