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Speaker 1: First of all, you don't know me.

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Speaker 2: We all about that high school drama, Girl drama girl,

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Speaker 2: all about them.

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Speaker 3: High school queens.

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Speaker 2: We'll take you for a ride, and our comic girl

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Speaker 2: shared for the right teams, Drama queenslis my girl up

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Speaker 2: girl fashion, which you'll tough.

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Speaker 3: Girl, you could sit with us, Girl Drama, Queens, Drama,

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Speaker 3: Quise Drama, Queens Drama, Drama, Queens drama queens.

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Speaker 1: Heay, So, hi, pl, how are you.

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Speaker 4: I'm doing well. Good to see you.

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Speaker 1: I know I've missed you. I was so sad to

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Speaker 1: not good to be with you guys on the last

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Speaker 1: ones because I've been shooting Grace. But I'm really glad

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Speaker 1: that James sisters got to come in. And I watched

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Speaker 1: all the Cliffees and they looked so good.

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Speaker 4: It was so much fun. They did not disappoint. Where

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Speaker 4: in the world are you right now? Look like you

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Speaker 4: are in a library.

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Speaker 1: I am in my den and I have bookshelves. My

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Speaker 1: whole family is here for Thanksgiving, and so my off

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Speaker 1: us has been temporarily put in my garage so that

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Speaker 1: corner today and sorry for the intense What is this?

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Speaker 1: This is? I need joy to tell me, Like what

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Speaker 1: the proper sound of your throat is when you lose

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Speaker 1: your voice. But I feel like I sound like somebody's

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Speaker 1: cool aunt who like smokes cigarettes and drinks whiskey.

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Speaker 4: Yeah. A friend who does voiceovers calls it the cool

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Speaker 4: guy rasp. Oh, it's like that vocal fry that trying

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Speaker 4: to be like dramatic and dreamy at the same Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Right, why do you feel we both just did for

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Speaker 1: the listeners at home. As soon as we started impersonating

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Speaker 1: that person, we both started squinting. What is that?

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Speaker 4: I don't know, but I can't do a douchebag bit

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Speaker 4: without without like squinting my eyes. Like Jenny will see

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Speaker 4: me from across the room starting to walk towards her

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Speaker 4: with the stupid eying, and she's like, nope, nope, don't,

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Speaker 4: I don't want It's just what we do. Episode seven twenty,

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Speaker 4: Season seven, Episode twenty that is Learning to Fall. I know,

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Speaker 4: how has it been twenty episodes already?

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Speaker 1: It's really crazy.

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Speaker 4: It's been so much fun, But I am also shocked

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Speaker 4: that we are almost ending the season already. That's crazy Anyways.

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Speaker 4: Air date May third, twenty ten. Nathan and Hailey struggle

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Speaker 4: with the aftermath of her mother's death, while Brooke deals

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Speaker 1: Oh, trist is a gentle word.

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Speaker 4: It is a gentle word. Alex discovers a secret about

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Speaker 4: her leading man Josh that could derail Julian's film, and

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Speaker 4: Quinn is confronted by an unhinged Katie That's putting it mildly.

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Speaker 4: Directed by Greg Prange, Written by Shana Fuel and Renee

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Speaker 4: Until can you help me with this one? Into their cover? Wow,

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Speaker 4: what first crack at it? You nailed that a These two.

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Speaker 1: Are absolutely incredible. God, SHANEA. Fuel just was such an

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Speaker 1: amazing addition to our writer's room, and I thought that,

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Speaker 4: This episode was fun, man.

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Speaker 1: This episode was really fun. And I don't know how

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Speaker 1: I forgot some of the details as they so closely

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Speaker 1: related to Brooke and Julian's life. But the first note

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Speaker 1: I have, because I wasn't with you all.

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Speaker 5: Last week, is Paul Teal was blackmailing, Like I had

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Speaker 1: but we actually just lost Paul t Heel and it's

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Speaker 4: Yeah, we got into it a bit last week. You know,

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Speaker 4: At this point, right, you know, but Joy has worked

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Speaker 4: Well, a lot of the stuff that I kind of

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Speaker 4: I have access to you, yea. And the fact that

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Speaker 1: How'd she get in there? Where is said Locke picking kit?

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Speaker 4: But I had the same kind of moment, I don't

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Speaker 4: Why don't you break the other ones and leave one's

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Speaker 1: And I loved the way you guys played that well.

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00:24:46,080 --> 00:24:48,520
Speaker 4: And that's another kind of testament to I think also

434
00:24:48,560 --> 00:24:53,800
Speaker 4: the writing, but both Clean Quinn are gentle with each other. Yeah,

435
00:24:53,960 --> 00:24:56,440
Speaker 4: in other words, she doesn't hit him with the why

436
00:24:56,440 --> 00:24:59,280
Speaker 4: didn't you tell me about this? Tone? Yeah, which then

437
00:24:59,320 --> 00:25:01,240
Speaker 4: puts him in a position to not have to respond

438
00:25:01,280 --> 00:25:04,840
Speaker 4: on the defensive. Yeah, where it's not like your mom was,

439
00:25:04,880 --> 00:25:06,439
Speaker 4: you know, he is able to go like, yeah, man,

440
00:25:06,520 --> 00:25:09,120
Speaker 4: this is what was happening. I remember. Yeah, And it's

441
00:25:09,160 --> 00:25:11,560
Speaker 4: a nice meeting ground when you can kind of both

442
00:25:11,680 --> 00:25:14,520
Speaker 4: enter into it, like with that sort of compassion and

443
00:25:14,640 --> 00:25:15,960
Speaker 4: kitty gloves with each other.

444
00:25:16,119 --> 00:25:18,080
Speaker 1: You know, it's interesting you put it that way, because

445
00:25:18,119 --> 00:25:20,800
Speaker 1: I also feel like that's what Millie and Marvin are

446
00:25:20,800 --> 00:25:24,800
Speaker 1: doing with each other, you know, her willing to check

447
00:25:24,840 --> 00:25:28,200
Speaker 1: on him and see if he's okay, even though she's

448
00:25:28,240 --> 00:25:32,879
Speaker 1: really sad and knows he's in this weird, confusing place,

449
00:25:33,040 --> 00:25:37,560
Speaker 1: Like I really, you're like, yeah, of course. I was

450
00:25:37,560 --> 00:25:41,280
Speaker 1: glad eventually when Brooke showed up, especially because they could

451
00:25:41,320 --> 00:25:44,520
Speaker 1: relate this. You know, the skills in Mouthfight is very

452
00:25:44,560 --> 00:25:47,679
Speaker 1: Brooke and Bayden in high school, and it's nice to

453
00:25:47,680 --> 00:25:51,399
Speaker 1: see the history of their friendship feel so relevant. But

454
00:25:51,480 --> 00:25:55,639
Speaker 1: I actually loved that Millie got there first, and I

455
00:25:55,680 --> 00:25:59,320
Speaker 1: loved that she chose to and to your point, she's

456
00:25:59,359 --> 00:26:05,760
Speaker 1: being really gentle with him, and because she's gentle with him.

457
00:26:06,520 --> 00:26:11,680
Speaker 1: It enables him to be honest, and he's not defensive,

458
00:26:11,880 --> 00:26:16,200
Speaker 1: he's just confused. Yeah, and it's I don't know, it's

459
00:26:16,280 --> 00:26:19,240
Speaker 1: really nice to see all these people in this position

460
00:26:19,280 --> 00:26:22,919
Speaker 1: where nobody's posturing, everyone's just trying to process together.

461
00:26:24,680 --> 00:26:30,040
Speaker 4: Yeah. That scene with her was so human. Yeah, it

462
00:26:30,119 --> 00:26:32,560
Speaker 4: was so relatable where she she asked him, you know,

463
00:26:32,600 --> 00:26:35,119
Speaker 4: do you think of me? And he goes yeah, and

464
00:26:35,160 --> 00:26:38,639
Speaker 4: she takes a beat and she goes that helps Like,

465
00:26:38,880 --> 00:26:41,840
Speaker 4: oh yeah, because I have to say I've been on

466
00:26:41,880 --> 00:26:45,720
Speaker 4: the team Mouth miss Lauren for a while now. Yeah,

467
00:26:45,760 --> 00:26:49,080
Speaker 4: I've been rooting for that and I still wanted it

468
00:26:49,080 --> 00:26:51,600
Speaker 4: and was disappointed with some of the things that happened

469
00:26:51,640 --> 00:26:54,760
Speaker 4: in this episode, but I after that moment, I was like, Okay,

470
00:26:55,560 --> 00:26:59,960
Speaker 4: well that's very sweet. You two got something there. But yeah,

471
00:27:00,440 --> 00:27:07,000
Speaker 4: the Skills and Miss Lauren and Mouth triangle. Though I

472
00:27:07,040 --> 00:27:10,199
Speaker 4: found myself still rooting for Miss Lauren and Mouth throughout

473
00:27:10,240 --> 00:27:13,040
Speaker 4: the whole episode. I felt like she needs an emotionally

474
00:27:13,119 --> 00:27:17,000
Speaker 4: mature guy, and Skills is just not able to show

475
00:27:17,080 --> 00:27:19,800
Speaker 4: up as that guy right now. And I loved the

476
00:27:20,800 --> 00:27:22,880
Speaker 4: kind of come to Jesus talk she had with him

477
00:27:22,960 --> 00:27:25,280
Speaker 4: on his front porch, where she was like, hey, let's

478
00:27:25,320 --> 00:27:30,320
Speaker 4: introduce some accountability. You bounced, you didn't check in, and

479
00:27:30,359 --> 00:27:33,720
Speaker 4: then you show up like nothing has happened, Like yeah,

480
00:27:34,240 --> 00:27:37,760
Speaker 4: I just I loved it because also again she did

481
00:27:37,800 --> 00:27:41,639
Speaker 4: it with compassion. She wasn't pointing a finger while she

482
00:27:41,680 --> 00:27:43,919
Speaker 4: did it. She was just saying, hey, this is the

483
00:27:43,960 --> 00:27:46,080
Speaker 4: reality of the situation you created.

484
00:27:46,520 --> 00:27:49,399
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I loved she got to call him out

485
00:27:50,040 --> 00:27:52,920
Speaker 1: and he was like it was only because of geography,

486
00:27:53,600 --> 00:27:57,359
Speaker 1: and she got to be like, no, you didn't call,

487
00:27:57,720 --> 00:28:00,800
Speaker 1: you didn't make an effort, And and what she got

488
00:28:00,800 --> 00:28:03,640
Speaker 1: to say without saying it is you didn't just disappear

489
00:28:03,720 --> 00:28:05,960
Speaker 1: on me. You disappeared on all these people who care

490
00:28:06,000 --> 00:28:10,960
Speaker 1: about you. And like, sure, you're out there working and

491
00:28:11,000 --> 00:28:14,240
Speaker 1: the hours are crazy. I mean, who who can understand?

492
00:28:14,960 --> 00:28:20,760
Speaker 1: You know, set hours more than us. But you you

493
00:28:20,840 --> 00:28:24,560
Speaker 1: can't be upset if people move on. If you yes,

494
00:28:24,880 --> 00:28:27,280
Speaker 1: if you've left a void where you used to be.

495
00:28:28,160 --> 00:28:31,119
Speaker 4: Yes. And we saw, you know a scene where he

496
00:28:31,480 --> 00:28:34,040
Speaker 4: and Mouth are playing video games and Miss Lauren walks

497
00:28:34,040 --> 00:28:37,119
Speaker 4: in and he says, oh, I'm on with Mouth or

498
00:28:37,320 --> 00:28:39,960
Speaker 4: skills and she says something effective, how's he doing? I

499
00:28:40,000 --> 00:28:43,280
Speaker 4: haven't heard from him, So yeah, he made choices, like

500
00:28:43,560 --> 00:28:46,640
Speaker 4: he had time to play video games with his buddies,

501
00:28:46,640 --> 00:28:48,400
Speaker 4: so he could have had time to call. So he

502
00:28:48,480 --> 00:28:51,680
Speaker 4: had time to call her, he just chose not to. Yeah,

503
00:28:51,720 --> 00:28:53,920
Speaker 4: And I think him coming back and wanting miss Lauren

504
00:28:54,040 --> 00:28:58,480
Speaker 4: is totally fine. And well, it's just the attitude and

505
00:28:58,520 --> 00:29:00,720
Speaker 4: the entitlement that he came in with where he's like,

506
00:29:01,560 --> 00:29:04,280
Speaker 4: walks in, how's my girl, puts his arm around her.

507
00:29:04,720 --> 00:29:07,360
Speaker 4: I was saying, it's very oblivious main character energy, where

508
00:29:07,360 --> 00:29:09,560
Speaker 4: it's like, yes, I left the scene, so all of

509
00:29:09,600 --> 00:29:13,520
Speaker 4: the all of the other supporting characters freezes, right. Yeah,

510
00:29:13,520 --> 00:29:15,440
Speaker 4: And then he has the audacity to say to one point.

511
00:29:15,440 --> 00:29:17,840
Speaker 4: I think it's at the gallery last episode, he goes, hey,

512
00:29:17,840 --> 00:29:21,520
Speaker 4: you seem you seem distant. I'm like, bro, you've been

513
00:29:21,720 --> 00:29:27,080
Speaker 4: literally distant and figuratively distant. Yeah, what high pot meet

514
00:29:27,160 --> 00:29:28,680
Speaker 4: Kettle exactly.

515
00:29:28,800 --> 00:29:32,440
Speaker 1: And and sure, you know you get that he's upset

516
00:29:32,480 --> 00:29:36,320
Speaker 1: that it's mouth because Mouse is his friend. But what

517
00:29:36,440 --> 00:29:40,520
Speaker 1: I also think is what I think is great about

518
00:29:40,520 --> 00:29:44,160
Speaker 1: it in adulthood, you know, versus all the teens in

519
00:29:44,240 --> 00:29:49,120
Speaker 1: high school, it's it's not pick me drama. It's like

520
00:29:51,000 --> 00:29:55,120
Speaker 1: these are two people who both love you, who both

521
00:29:55,160 --> 00:30:00,480
Speaker 1: felt really abandoned, and I get that hurts you, But

522
00:30:00,520 --> 00:30:03,200
Speaker 1: are you really surprised that they like bonded in their

523
00:30:03,280 --> 00:30:04,520
Speaker 1: sadness about missing you.

524
00:30:05,440 --> 00:30:09,000
Speaker 4: Yes, you know, I think I've said this before in here,

525
00:30:09,040 --> 00:30:13,360
Speaker 4: but one of the most profound gems I ever got

526
00:30:13,400 --> 00:30:16,600
Speaker 4: from therapy was when my therapist said, it's not about

527
00:30:16,640 --> 00:30:20,920
Speaker 4: the damage, it's about the lack of repair. And I

528
00:30:21,080 --> 00:30:23,480
Speaker 4: love that, and I feel like that's kind of what's

529
00:30:23,480 --> 00:30:26,080
Speaker 4: happening here where It's like if you had just shown

530
00:30:26,160 --> 00:30:29,080
Speaker 4: up and been like, hey, my bad skill you skills

531
00:30:29,120 --> 00:30:31,880
Speaker 4: as was saying, like, yeah, sorry, I just dipped out

532
00:30:31,880 --> 00:30:35,160
Speaker 4: on you guys, I ghoested Jews, it would have been different.

533
00:30:35,840 --> 00:30:38,960
Speaker 4: But instead it's like he's not acknowledging it, he's not own.

534
00:30:39,120 --> 00:30:40,080
Speaker 1: Yeah.

535
00:30:40,880 --> 00:30:43,400
Speaker 4: So yeah, I found myself going, come on, come on.

536
00:30:43,480 --> 00:30:48,280
Speaker 4: And then when mouth tells after miss Lauren Anxiety bakes

537
00:30:48,280 --> 00:30:51,080
Speaker 4: a cake for him and shows up at his place,

538
00:30:51,120 --> 00:30:59,160
Speaker 4: I'm like, don't shoot her away on man, you know, Millie,

539
00:30:59,400 --> 00:31:02,160
Speaker 4: she's looking she's in early recovery. They say, not to

540
00:31:02,240 --> 00:31:05,280
Speaker 4: date in your first year. Give her some space studio.

541
00:31:06,880 --> 00:31:11,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, come on, I don't know, it's interesting because as

542
00:31:11,080 --> 00:31:15,800
Speaker 1: we talk about it, I feel really appreciative that they

543
00:31:15,840 --> 00:31:20,000
Speaker 1: gave everyone some complexity and that you could really as

544
00:31:20,040 --> 00:31:22,400
Speaker 1: an audience member, like I feel like I'm on the

545
00:31:22,480 --> 00:31:24,840
Speaker 1: seesaw with all these people. I'm like, don't but oh,

546
00:31:24,880 --> 00:31:29,480
Speaker 1: I get it and I'm duh, like I'm mad at skills,

547
00:31:29,480 --> 00:31:33,240
Speaker 1: but also oh, it's so hard to like come home

548
00:31:33,280 --> 00:31:36,840
Speaker 1: from some all consuming thing and feel like your life

549
00:31:36,960 --> 00:31:40,040
Speaker 1: has moved on without you, and like I actually feel

550
00:31:40,080 --> 00:31:42,720
Speaker 1: for everybody, there's no way to totally get it right.

551
00:31:43,160 --> 00:31:46,479
Speaker 1: And I think that's nice because so often and maybe

552
00:31:46,520 --> 00:31:48,920
Speaker 1: that you know, it felt more true in the earlier years,

553
00:31:48,960 --> 00:31:52,959
Speaker 1: but like so often when there's some tension between people,

554
00:31:53,560 --> 00:31:56,800
Speaker 1: it's easier when you're watching it like this to pick

555
00:31:56,840 --> 00:31:58,720
Speaker 1: a side, and I feel like I kind of can't

556
00:31:58,720 --> 00:32:01,600
Speaker 1: pick any sides, and I.

557
00:32:01,600 --> 00:32:06,600
Speaker 4: Like that there was also a lot of subtext. There

558
00:32:06,680 --> 00:32:09,200
Speaker 4: is also a lot of things not being said that work,

559
00:32:09,320 --> 00:32:11,560
Speaker 4: which is great, which is just so fun to watch,

560
00:32:11,640 --> 00:32:15,040
Speaker 4: you know, because sometimes everything is very on the nose

561
00:32:15,080 --> 00:32:18,160
Speaker 4: and heavy handed, where there is no deducing to do,

562
00:32:18,360 --> 00:32:20,720
Speaker 4: like you see exactly what's happening because the characters are

563
00:32:20,760 --> 00:32:24,040
Speaker 4: literally saying it whereas in this episode there was a

564
00:32:24,080 --> 00:32:28,400
Speaker 4: lot going unsaid, which I think makes for a scene

565
00:32:28,520 --> 00:32:33,240
Speaker 4: to be so much more interesting. You know, yeah, Alex,

566
00:32:34,680 --> 00:32:38,560
Speaker 4: talk to me about Alex, Josh Paul and Julian.

567
00:32:39,760 --> 00:32:47,520
Speaker 1: I love it, and you know, something that was really

568
00:32:48,960 --> 00:32:51,840
Speaker 1: interesting for me, and I was glad that we got

569
00:32:51,880 --> 00:32:58,200
Speaker 1: to call this out really overtly and then less so,

570
00:32:58,280 --> 00:33:05,040
Speaker 1: but make a point like tabloid culture is so awful

571
00:33:05,280 --> 00:33:10,000
Speaker 1: because it uses people as supply, which is what narcissists do,

572
00:33:10,320 --> 00:33:12,720
Speaker 1: Like when you go through narcissistic abuse and you have

573
00:33:12,800 --> 00:33:15,479
Speaker 1: to learn how to recover from that, and you you

574
00:33:15,600 --> 00:33:19,360
Speaker 1: understand that it is so hard because you haven't been

575
00:33:19,680 --> 00:33:25,920
Speaker 1: having conflict or you know something that just ultimately isn't

576
00:33:25,960 --> 00:33:31,400
Speaker 1: going to be the lasting thing between two people. You

577
00:33:31,520 --> 00:33:36,960
Speaker 1: have a person who doesn't view their quote unquote opponent

578
00:33:37,000 --> 00:33:39,240
Speaker 1: as a person. They look at you as supply for

579
00:33:39,280 --> 00:33:45,960
Speaker 1: their demand, for their whatever. And tabloids treat people that way,

580
00:33:46,600 --> 00:33:51,360
Speaker 1: and you know, it's like a it's a business industry

581
00:33:51,480 --> 00:33:54,960
Speaker 1: version of bullying because they'll decide what you are and

582
00:33:55,000 --> 00:33:57,200
Speaker 1: then they'll tell a story about you because that story

583
00:33:57,240 --> 00:33:59,200
Speaker 1: makes them money, even if you know they have all

584
00:33:59,200 --> 00:34:03,440
Speaker 1: the evidence to the contrary. And what really got me

585
00:34:03,560 --> 00:34:08,600
Speaker 1: about this whole dynamic is, you know, twenty ten, like

586
00:34:08,640 --> 00:34:11,600
Speaker 1: we were, we were so at the height of like

587
00:34:12,640 --> 00:34:15,560
Speaker 1: you know, the tmzs and like the gross gossip blogs

588
00:34:15,600 --> 00:34:18,120
Speaker 1: and the and those people still exist and if they

589
00:34:18,160 --> 00:34:20,719
Speaker 1: decide they want to put a target on your back,

590
00:34:20,760 --> 00:34:27,160
Speaker 1: they will, But we didn't. We didn't really have our

591
00:34:27,200 --> 00:34:30,600
Speaker 1: own spaces online yet, Like the social stuff was like

592
00:34:30,840 --> 00:34:35,320
Speaker 1: just beginning where you could actually be yourself. And I

593
00:34:35,400 --> 00:34:39,600
Speaker 1: loved that we addressed this, and that we addressed the

594
00:34:39,640 --> 00:34:44,600
Speaker 1: way the double standard would exist for a woman and

595
00:34:44,640 --> 00:34:48,560
Speaker 1: would exist for someone like Alex and that someone, to

596
00:34:48,640 --> 00:34:51,520
Speaker 1: your point, who's in recovery is probably going to try

597
00:34:51,560 --> 00:34:54,600
Speaker 1: to make themselves feel better in all the wrong ways

598
00:34:55,000 --> 00:35:00,759
Speaker 1: as they stumble along this new road. And it was

599
00:35:00,800 --> 00:35:05,600
Speaker 1: twenty ten, it was two years before marriage equality passed

600
00:35:05,600 --> 00:35:11,040
Speaker 1: in the Supreme Court. It it's still not safe for

601
00:35:11,120 --> 00:35:16,760
Speaker 1: a lot of people to be out, and it really

602
00:35:16,840 --> 00:35:20,160
Speaker 1: wasn't at this point. And it really kind of made

603
00:35:20,200 --> 00:35:22,640
Speaker 1: me gasp when it was like, how many leading men

604
00:35:22,680 --> 00:35:25,640
Speaker 1: do you know that are gay? It shouldn't be that way,

605
00:35:25,680 --> 00:35:31,960
Speaker 1: but it is. And I appreciated that Paul from his

606
00:35:32,280 --> 00:35:35,279
Speaker 1: age range or you know, his perspective at his age.

607
00:35:35,320 --> 00:35:38,040
Speaker 1: I guess I should say was able to give Alex

608
00:35:38,120 --> 00:35:40,560
Speaker 1: this lesson and say, yeah, it's that, but this is

609
00:35:40,600 --> 00:35:44,840
Speaker 1: the way it is at current and we need to

610
00:35:44,960 --> 00:35:50,680
Speaker 1: hide it. And in a way I hate and would

611
00:35:50,719 --> 00:35:53,439
Speaker 1: obviously never recommend, but was pretty heroic on a TV

612
00:35:53,480 --> 00:35:57,600
Speaker 1: show since it was fake for Alex to say, you

613
00:35:57,600 --> 00:36:01,400
Speaker 1: know what, let's put this out there and then the

614
00:36:01,440 --> 00:36:02,920
Speaker 1: story is going to be that we're in love, and

615
00:36:02,960 --> 00:36:04,600
Speaker 1: then the story is going to be that we're a couple,

616
00:36:04,680 --> 00:36:07,040
Speaker 1: and yeah, people are gonna call me names, but it

617
00:36:07,080 --> 00:36:09,959
Speaker 1: won't be so bad if I was like, oh my god,

618
00:36:10,040 --> 00:36:16,359
Speaker 1: this crushes my soul for all of you, but what

619
00:36:16,440 --> 00:36:20,520
Speaker 1: a what a kind of snapshot of the time. And

620
00:36:20,560 --> 00:36:23,800
Speaker 1: then you know, you got from like the heavy icky

621
00:36:24,400 --> 00:36:26,640
Speaker 1: all the way to the very funny, with Brooke being like, oh,

622
00:36:26,680 --> 00:36:28,319
Speaker 1: you don't care, fabulous, I'm going to tell them it

623
00:36:28,360 --> 00:36:32,280
Speaker 1: was my mom, Hello TMZ, and I was like, oof.

624
00:36:33,719 --> 00:36:37,600
Speaker 1: I was glad we got to have a kind of

625
00:36:37,880 --> 00:36:41,120
Speaker 1: we got to run the gamut of like peeking under

626
00:36:41,160 --> 00:36:43,600
Speaker 1: the hood, if you will. On that conversation.

627
00:36:56,640 --> 00:36:59,120
Speaker 4: The one thing I found myself wanting out of Paul though,

628
00:36:59,160 --> 00:37:01,799
Speaker 4: because especially since he's sort of turned over this new

629
00:37:01,880 --> 00:37:04,680
Speaker 4: leaf with Julian and we're seeing him sort of evolve.

630
00:37:06,080 --> 00:37:10,440
Speaker 4: I really wished in that scene that as opposed to

631
00:37:10,400 --> 00:37:15,080
Speaker 4: it being one hundred percent about that news affecting the film,

632
00:37:15,320 --> 00:37:17,960
Speaker 4: if it was, hey, this wouldn't be good for the film.

633
00:37:17,960 --> 00:37:21,759
Speaker 4: And also that's his story. It's not our place to

634
00:37:22,360 --> 00:37:25,839
Speaker 4: publicly out him, like just there was some also mention

635
00:37:25,880 --> 00:37:28,200
Speaker 4: of that, like the human aspect, as opposed to like

636
00:37:28,600 --> 00:37:31,640
Speaker 4: this would kill the film. And then the other thing

637
00:37:31,680 --> 00:37:35,960
Speaker 4: I didn't get was they obviously discover its extortion. Julian

638
00:37:36,080 --> 00:37:39,080
Speaker 4: goes to Paul's room, excuse me, Josh's room and is like,

639
00:37:39,560 --> 00:37:43,520
Speaker 4: that's over. Give them money back so they haven't lost

640
00:37:43,520 --> 00:37:50,600
Speaker 4: that million dollars. And Alex still it's her decision to

641
00:37:50,760 --> 00:37:52,200
Speaker 4: still let the tape leak.

642
00:37:53,200 --> 00:37:53,439
Speaker 1: Yeah.

643
00:37:53,680 --> 00:37:55,600
Speaker 4: And then what's odd at the end of it was

644
00:37:55,600 --> 00:37:58,200
Speaker 4: she tells Julian, I needed you to know that I

645
00:37:58,320 --> 00:38:03,080
Speaker 4: believed in you too, Yeah, And it felt it felt

646
00:38:03,120 --> 00:38:08,799
Speaker 4: weird to me because it's like, I don't understand if

647
00:38:08,880 --> 00:38:11,200
Speaker 4: you wanted to show him you believed in his film,

648
00:38:11,400 --> 00:38:13,640
Speaker 4: wouldn't you just promote the hell out of it? As

649
00:38:13,719 --> 00:38:17,000
Speaker 4: like the greatest movie you've been a part of. Well, yeah,

650
00:38:17,120 --> 00:38:19,520
Speaker 4: you're kind of What you're really saying is like, I

651
00:38:19,600 --> 00:38:22,400
Speaker 4: think this film needs a serious crutch to help it

652
00:38:22,440 --> 00:38:23,640
Speaker 4: out well.

653
00:38:24,800 --> 00:38:29,399
Speaker 1: And what was sort of was like they still could

654
00:38:29,440 --> 00:38:32,799
Speaker 1: have done the press blitz and said, oh, they fell

655
00:38:32,800 --> 00:38:35,120
Speaker 1: in love on this movie. Like she could have said

656
00:38:35,160 --> 00:38:39,759
Speaker 1: I'm gonna help protect Josh and we'll use the tabloids

657
00:38:39,800 --> 00:38:45,040
Speaker 1: to our advantage with this thing or whatever. But yeah,

658
00:38:44,640 --> 00:38:50,000
Speaker 1: I got to say, like, not to be so serious, well,

659
00:38:50,080 --> 00:38:51,840
Speaker 1: but it is a serious topic, or not to be

660
00:38:51,880 --> 00:38:54,080
Speaker 1: a Debbie Downer. I don't know what I'm saying. The

661
00:38:54,440 --> 00:38:59,120
Speaker 1: fact is the writing from this pair of women is

662
00:38:59,200 --> 00:39:03,440
Speaker 1: so good and that that whole sequence, like for me

663
00:39:03,600 --> 00:39:05,480
Speaker 1: watching it, I was like, oh, that has our boss's

664
00:39:05,520 --> 00:39:09,160
Speaker 1: fingerprints all over it. Yeah, Like the woman has to

665
00:39:09,239 --> 00:39:13,399
Speaker 1: be a sacrificial lamb, she has to be sexually exploited.

666
00:39:13,840 --> 00:39:18,280
Speaker 1: She essentially has to experience digital assault because when people

667
00:39:18,920 --> 00:39:22,720
Speaker 1: you view you in an intimate act without your consent,

668
00:39:23,080 --> 00:39:27,480
Speaker 1: it literally like we know this now, you know, with

669
00:39:27,520 --> 00:39:30,719
Speaker 1: deep fake porn and all this stuff, it creates the

670
00:39:30,760 --> 00:39:34,160
Speaker 1: same response in the brain as being physically assaulted. And

671
00:39:34,239 --> 00:39:36,839
Speaker 1: like the fact that we had this guy in charge

672
00:39:36,840 --> 00:39:38,759
Speaker 1: of our show. That was like, well, obviously she's just

673
00:39:38,760 --> 00:39:40,759
Speaker 1: going to sell her own sex tape to make the

674
00:39:40,800 --> 00:39:43,799
Speaker 1: money for everyone and save the movie. I'm just like, God,

675
00:39:43,800 --> 00:39:47,680
Speaker 1: you're so gross, Like you're just so gross. It was

676
00:39:47,840 --> 00:39:52,600
Speaker 1: almost such a great storyline, and then you just had

677
00:39:52,600 --> 00:39:57,680
Speaker 1: to be so gross because what it suggests, without saying

678
00:39:57,719 --> 00:40:00,319
Speaker 1: the words, is that that's an acceptable way to treat

679
00:40:00,320 --> 00:40:02,880
Speaker 1: a woman and that that's how a woman has to

680
00:40:02,880 --> 00:40:03,440
Speaker 1: be a hero.

681
00:40:03,680 --> 00:40:08,240
Speaker 4: And I was like, bit, yes, there's a serious element

682
00:40:08,280 --> 00:40:12,920
Speaker 4: of like martyrdom unnecessarily. So in the scene when it's

683
00:40:12,920 --> 00:40:15,360
Speaker 4: the first time we see Millie back when Alex is

684
00:40:15,400 --> 00:40:21,120
Speaker 4: just kind of downloading with her, Alex so nonchalantly is like, oh, yeah,

685
00:40:21,160 --> 00:40:22,919
Speaker 4: by the way, I was involved in a sex tape.

686
00:40:22,920 --> 00:40:26,600
Speaker 4: I didn't consent to haha. And yeah, I was caught

687
00:40:26,640 --> 00:40:30,439
Speaker 4: off guard, like you're having a moment with your friend

688
00:40:30,800 --> 00:40:35,480
Speaker 4: and there's not even a hint of anger. Yeah, remorse,

689
00:40:35,680 --> 00:40:39,279
Speaker 4: it's just like she says it. She laughs, and then

690
00:40:39,280 --> 00:40:41,640
Speaker 4: she walks out the door and says a button and leaves.

691
00:40:42,000 --> 00:40:46,239
Speaker 4: I was like, and that's her tone the entire episode. Yeah,

692
00:40:46,280 --> 00:40:48,239
Speaker 4: And so it was just odd, like I agree with

693
00:40:48,280 --> 00:40:50,799
Speaker 4: what you're saying, it takes the weight out of what

694
00:40:51,120 --> 00:40:53,200
Speaker 4: the implications of that actually.

695
00:40:52,920 --> 00:40:56,440
Speaker 1: Are, because essentially what we do is we model to

696
00:40:56,600 --> 00:40:59,319
Speaker 1: an audience of millions of people that that's no big deal,

697
00:40:59,800 --> 00:41:03,359
Speaker 1: that's not a huge violation, that that's not something that

698
00:41:03,440 --> 00:41:08,680
Speaker 1: causes like trauma. If not, we'll give someone PTSD like it.

699
00:41:09,040 --> 00:41:11,600
Speaker 1: We make light of it in a way that is

700
00:41:11,680 --> 00:41:17,080
Speaker 1: like so not okay. And then and then when there's

701
00:41:17,080 --> 00:41:21,319
Speaker 1: this opportunity for this really great, you know storyline, and

702
00:41:21,360 --> 00:41:24,960
Speaker 1: to your point, like no one was talking about you know,

703
00:41:26,320 --> 00:41:29,200
Speaker 1: people's whether whose job it was to tell someone else's

704
00:41:29,239 --> 00:41:31,359
Speaker 1: story like the way we do now in twenty ten.

705
00:41:32,320 --> 00:41:35,360
Speaker 1: But even I could even appreciate that, you know, the

706
00:41:35,480 --> 00:41:38,480
Speaker 1: character of Paul the dad wouldn't be as conscious of

707
00:41:38,520 --> 00:41:41,800
Speaker 1: that stuff as we might be. You know, past generation

708
00:41:42,000 --> 00:41:45,319
Speaker 1: has to kind of learn whatever. But like we could

709
00:41:45,320 --> 00:41:47,880
Speaker 1: have had this really powerful conversation and then it was

710
00:41:47,920 --> 00:41:50,640
Speaker 1: like I know how to solve it. I'll go out

711
00:41:50,680 --> 00:41:53,360
Speaker 1: and put this on the internet. And I was like, wow,

712
00:41:53,520 --> 00:41:57,799
Speaker 1: we are We're just it was so special for a moment,

713
00:41:57,920 --> 00:42:00,360
Speaker 1: we were having such an important conversation and we're just

714
00:42:00,400 --> 00:42:02,640
Speaker 1: gonna throw the girl under the bus for the one

715
00:42:03,080 --> 00:42:05,600
Speaker 1: millionth billionth time, even.

716
00:42:05,440 --> 00:42:07,200
Speaker 4: If there had just been a tiny moment of when

717
00:42:07,280 --> 00:42:10,080
Speaker 4: she goes into Josh's room, if she sits down with

718
00:42:10,120 --> 00:42:12,440
Speaker 4: them and she's like, Hey, what you did to me

719
00:42:13,080 --> 00:42:16,600
Speaker 4: was horrific. So here's how you can begin to make

720
00:42:16,640 --> 00:42:20,160
Speaker 4: amends for it. Yeah, here's the story. I'm gonna help

721
00:42:20,200 --> 00:42:22,239
Speaker 4: you out, but you owe me, you know what I mean,

722
00:42:22,280 --> 00:42:24,040
Speaker 4: just some sort of acknowledgment of it. I will say.

723
00:42:24,080 --> 00:42:30,080
Speaker 4: Another thing that I found incredibly egregious was the slow

724
00:42:30,120 --> 00:42:33,360
Speaker 4: mo shot because this happened in seven nineteen when Clay

725
00:42:33,520 --> 00:42:37,440
Speaker 4: sees Katie at the gallery, he drops his beer and

726
00:42:37,480 --> 00:42:40,120
Speaker 4: we do the slow mo shot of a bottle falling

727
00:42:40,200 --> 00:42:43,080
Speaker 4: and hitting the ground, as if the audience isn't registering

728
00:42:43,160 --> 00:42:46,600
Speaker 4: that there's a tremendous amount of surprise this episode. Back

729
00:42:46,640 --> 00:42:51,120
Speaker 4: to back episodes. Alex sees Josh and his male friend

730
00:42:51,200 --> 00:42:54,280
Speaker 4: kissing in the elevator and she drops the ice bucket,

731
00:42:54,280 --> 00:42:56,600
Speaker 4: and we have the slow mo close up of an

732
00:42:56,640 --> 00:43:01,360
Speaker 4: ice bucket. Yeah, like calling hitting the ground, Like, what

733
00:43:01,440 --> 00:43:05,399
Speaker 4: are we doing? Let's just watch the actor responding well.

734
00:43:05,440 --> 00:43:10,040
Speaker 1: And by the way, not only is there the slow moll,

735
00:43:11,680 --> 00:43:15,319
Speaker 1: there's there was one other slow moost shot which did

736
00:43:15,360 --> 00:43:18,280
Speaker 1: not make any sense to me because the clay picture

737
00:43:18,320 --> 00:43:22,839
Speaker 1: gets thrown to the ground, the glass shatters, and then

738
00:43:22,960 --> 00:43:28,000
Speaker 1: completely still, they have Katie. They have Amanda Showl standing

739
00:43:28,040 --> 00:43:31,880
Speaker 1: in like a Superheroes us with the hood, the slow

740
00:43:32,080 --> 00:43:34,640
Speaker 1: pan up the body and the boots and the thing,

741
00:43:35,360 --> 00:43:38,319
Speaker 1: and then she pulls her hood off, but her hood

742
00:43:38,400 --> 00:43:40,960
Speaker 1: wasn't obstructing her face in the first place, and it's

743
00:43:41,000 --> 00:43:46,359
Speaker 1: broad daylight, and I was like, what is happening? And

744
00:43:46,800 --> 00:43:49,600
Speaker 1: I have we all have been in that position as

745
00:43:49,600 --> 00:43:51,880
Speaker 1: an actor where you are told we have to do

746
00:43:51,920 --> 00:43:55,400
Speaker 1: this and you're like, I think this is silly and unmotivated,

747
00:43:55,440 --> 00:43:57,400
Speaker 1: and they're like, it's the shot that's going to make

748
00:43:57,440 --> 00:44:00,279
Speaker 1: it all make sense. And you either figure out how

749
00:44:00,320 --> 00:44:03,839
Speaker 1: to fight your way into doing something else or you

750
00:44:03,920 --> 00:44:06,120
Speaker 1: kind of get strong armed into doing the thing that

751
00:44:06,160 --> 00:44:10,319
Speaker 1: you know is stupid. And I was like, I don't

752
00:44:10,360 --> 00:44:12,879
Speaker 1: know what show I'm watching right now, Like we went

753
00:44:12,920 --> 00:44:15,160
Speaker 1: from One Tree Hill to the Boys back to One

754
00:44:15,239 --> 00:44:18,680
Speaker 1: Tree Hill, but like she's not actually in a superhero outfit,

755
00:44:19,520 --> 00:44:21,480
Speaker 1: and I was like, God, she looks beautiful and it's

756
00:44:21,480 --> 00:44:23,839
Speaker 1: a great coat and her hair is flawless. But why

757
00:44:23,840 --> 00:44:24,680
Speaker 1: are we doing this?

758
00:44:25,600 --> 00:44:29,400
Speaker 4: She's bringing serious, unhinged chic vibes to.

759
00:44:30,080 --> 00:44:32,080
Speaker 1: The be and e and in a weird way. It

760
00:44:32,160 --> 00:44:35,680
Speaker 1: was like it was the reverse shot of you dropping

761
00:44:35,680 --> 00:44:38,520
Speaker 1: the beer bottle in the gallery, and then like in

762
00:44:38,560 --> 00:44:43,600
Speaker 1: the gallery, we pan up Katie and then we dropped

763
00:44:43,680 --> 00:44:49,040
Speaker 1: more with Alex, and I was like, who got into

764
00:44:49,080 --> 00:44:51,120
Speaker 1: Solomo in season seven like this?

765
00:44:52,200 --> 00:44:54,680
Speaker 4: I don't know. I also had the same response as

766
00:44:54,680 --> 00:44:56,239
Speaker 4: you and I when they do the pan up and

767
00:44:56,320 --> 00:44:59,920
Speaker 4: Katie's in like knee high leather boots and a superhero

768
00:45:00,080 --> 00:45:02,000
Speaker 4: pose and she pulls the hood off. My first thought

769
00:45:02,080 --> 00:45:06,000
Speaker 4: was you just broke into a place in broad daylight.

770
00:45:06,160 --> 00:45:10,000
Speaker 4: That hood is obstructing nothing, and why are you choosing

771
00:45:10,040 --> 00:45:12,880
Speaker 4: to take it? Was just it was so odd and

772
00:45:13,000 --> 00:45:16,600
Speaker 4: sort of false. And also the scene with Alex ends

773
00:45:16,640 --> 00:45:18,880
Speaker 4: so not. Why do they slow mow extreme close up

774
00:45:18,960 --> 00:45:21,680
Speaker 4: of an ice bucket hitting the ground and the ice

775
00:45:21,719 --> 00:45:24,920
Speaker 4: cubes like it's saving private Ryan, the ice cubes flailing about,

776
00:45:25,000 --> 00:45:29,000
Speaker 4: falling everywhere. Then they push in from a close up

777
00:45:29,040 --> 00:45:34,279
Speaker 4: to like an extreme close up on Alex's face. Again

778
00:45:34,360 --> 00:45:36,799
Speaker 4: it's like the slow creep, as if we it's just

779
00:45:36,840 --> 00:45:39,759
Speaker 4: to me. It was like we don't need to hold

780
00:45:39,800 --> 00:45:43,799
Speaker 4: the audience's hand here. Jana's great. Just let Janet do

781
00:45:43,880 --> 00:45:45,600
Speaker 4: her thing and let's just watch her react.

782
00:45:45,880 --> 00:45:48,839
Speaker 1: Also, we are all seeing this. We all are going,

783
00:45:48,920 --> 00:45:50,439
Speaker 1: oh my god, Josh, is this day?

784
00:45:50,680 --> 00:45:55,839
Speaker 4: Yes, like we know, yes, it's distracting to then break

785
00:45:55,880 --> 00:45:59,200
Speaker 4: my concentration with the dramatic French film of an ice

786
00:45:59,280 --> 00:46:02,719
Speaker 4: bucket hitting the ground and realizing its own fragility, Like,

787
00:46:02,719 --> 00:46:03,520
Speaker 4: what are we doing?

788
00:46:04,760 --> 00:46:09,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was, it was a little extra. We didn't

789
00:46:10,680 --> 00:46:11,560
Speaker 1: we didn't need it.

790
00:46:12,640 --> 00:46:15,759
Speaker 4: Let's get into sweet sweet hales.

791
00:46:16,239 --> 00:46:16,560
Speaker 1: Uh.

792
00:46:17,480 --> 00:46:20,160
Speaker 4: I did not know the storyline was coming at all,

793
00:46:20,480 --> 00:46:22,799
Speaker 4: so it is. All of it is surprising me. And

794
00:46:22,920 --> 00:46:25,200
Speaker 4: it got dark fast.

795
00:46:25,680 --> 00:46:31,200
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, I think they're doing such a good job

796
00:46:31,280 --> 00:46:35,799
Speaker 1: with this that the speed of it, and look, we've

797
00:46:35,880 --> 00:46:38,520
Speaker 1: voiced this before. Sometimes I think we jump into things

798
00:46:38,560 --> 00:46:42,720
Speaker 1: a little too quickly. I think the speed is really fast.

799
00:46:43,040 --> 00:46:47,480
Speaker 1: But I think the again, the writing is so good

800
00:46:48,360 --> 00:46:55,120
Speaker 1: because the choices to make certain things feel impossible, which

801
00:46:55,160 --> 00:46:57,480
Speaker 1: I think is so true when you are going through

802
00:46:57,600 --> 00:47:04,960
Speaker 1: really substantial grief, like nothing feels important. Everything you're doing,

803
00:47:06,800 --> 00:47:09,960
Speaker 1: you know, feels insane. It's like suddenly you're in a

804
00:47:10,000 --> 00:47:12,600
Speaker 1: costume party. Of your own life. You're like, what is

805
00:47:12,600 --> 00:47:15,880
Speaker 1: everybody doing? And why is everyone working? And why are

806
00:47:15,920 --> 00:47:20,359
Speaker 1: those people like just buying groceries whatever it is. It's

807
00:47:20,440 --> 00:47:26,000
Speaker 1: so surreal that not everyone feels like the world has stopped.

808
00:47:26,719 --> 00:47:34,080
Speaker 1: And I thought they wrote really great representations of that

809
00:47:34,200 --> 00:47:37,400
Speaker 1: for her, like the inability to even hear what Miranda

810
00:47:37,520 --> 00:47:44,680
Speaker 1: is saying, the irrelevance of what meal it is, like,

811
00:47:44,719 --> 00:47:46,400
Speaker 1: it's breakfast, eat this, who cares?

812
00:47:46,520 --> 00:47:46,600
Speaker 3: Like?

813
00:47:48,239 --> 00:47:54,400
Speaker 1: It's really subtle stuff, But I think it communicated, like

814
00:47:55,880 --> 00:47:59,640
Speaker 1: what's the word I'm looking for? The catastrophic nature of

815
00:47:59,680 --> 00:48:03,439
Speaker 1: the law for her really well.

816
00:48:03,080 --> 00:48:06,279
Speaker 4: Yes, And I think the fact that we ended seven

817
00:48:06,400 --> 00:48:09,840
Speaker 4: nineteen with watching her kind of have her first break

818
00:48:10,520 --> 00:48:13,840
Speaker 4: by the pool, because I agree, this does feel fast.

819
00:48:13,840 --> 00:48:16,760
Speaker 4: It feels like a lot very quick, Like the Chinese

820
00:48:16,760 --> 00:48:19,239
Speaker 4: food in the morning. Okay, that's obviously not her, but

821
00:48:19,320 --> 00:48:22,120
Speaker 4: let's be honest, cold Chinese nos are delicious, So not

822
00:48:22,160 --> 00:48:25,680
Speaker 4: a huge strike against you as a parent. The peeling

823
00:48:25,719 --> 00:48:29,720
Speaker 4: off in the Porsche and blowing off your shoot, that's big,

824
00:48:30,320 --> 00:48:33,799
Speaker 4: and then the just setting the piano on fire. But

825
00:48:33,960 --> 00:48:36,239
Speaker 4: I think the reason why I don't mind it so

826
00:48:36,320 --> 00:48:41,400
Speaker 4: much is because grief is different for everyone, and it

827
00:48:41,480 --> 00:48:44,319
Speaker 4: doesn't follow a timeline, and sometimes it can be slow

828
00:48:44,360 --> 00:48:46,160
Speaker 4: and other times it can be fat. Like you know,

829
00:48:46,200 --> 00:48:49,600
Speaker 4: there's no there's no playbook for it. So it's like, Okay,

830
00:48:49,680 --> 00:48:52,960
Speaker 4: I think I saw her break last episode, so maybe

831
00:48:52,960 --> 00:48:56,279
Speaker 4: this is what it looks like now that it's broken. Yeah,

832
00:48:56,360 --> 00:49:03,160
Speaker 4: I'm worried for Jamie and Nathan. Yeah, but it's interesting.

833
00:49:03,440 --> 00:49:08,440
Speaker 1: We've seen these moments with him, you know, when Jamie's

834
00:49:08,480 --> 00:49:11,200
Speaker 1: having a hard time and he just offers to be

835
00:49:11,280 --> 00:49:13,920
Speaker 1: there for him a few episodes ago, and then in

836
00:49:13,960 --> 00:49:18,520
Speaker 1: this one you can see Nathan processing that something is

837
00:49:18,560 --> 00:49:23,279
Speaker 1: wrong and trying to figure it out, and he makes

838
00:49:23,320 --> 00:49:25,680
Speaker 1: a choice again just to show up for his kid

839
00:49:25,800 --> 00:49:28,800
Speaker 1: and not He doesn't say much, you know, he says,

840
00:49:28,960 --> 00:49:31,400
Speaker 1: your mom loves you and always will. He doesn't say

841
00:49:31,800 --> 00:49:34,560
Speaker 1: she's having a really hard time and she's acting out.

842
00:49:35,239 --> 00:49:37,680
Speaker 1: You know, Mom's not mad at you. She was upset that,

843
00:49:37,880 --> 00:49:41,600
Speaker 1: you know, about the soup. Like he chooses not to

844
00:49:41,680 --> 00:49:45,920
Speaker 1: say much and then says, let's let's do this puzzle together.

845
00:49:46,000 --> 00:49:51,400
Speaker 1: He's just gonna be there, and it's really nice to

846
00:49:51,440 --> 00:49:54,799
Speaker 1: not see him try to solve the problem but just

847
00:49:54,880 --> 00:49:55,799
Speaker 1: be present for.

848
00:49:55,719 --> 00:49:59,800
Speaker 4: It, which I think is such a common reflex for guys,

849
00:50:00,560 --> 00:50:03,760
Speaker 4: is that I know that my first instinct is always

850
00:50:04,160 --> 00:50:06,759
Speaker 4: how do I fix it? Yeah, And it's a lot

851
00:50:06,760 --> 00:50:08,839
Speaker 4: of times the same. It's not about that no one's

852
00:50:08,880 --> 00:50:10,800
Speaker 4: asking you to by the way.

853
00:50:10,680 --> 00:50:11,960
Speaker 1: I was just going to be like yes, same with

854
00:50:12,040 --> 00:50:15,279
Speaker 1: eldest or only daughters, where you're like I am I

855
00:50:15,320 --> 00:50:17,360
Speaker 1: have to be responsible for everyone and all their feelings

856
00:50:17,400 --> 00:50:20,319
Speaker 1: all the time. Like there's such a goal to jump

857
00:50:20,400 --> 00:50:21,719
Speaker 1: in and say, well, this is how we're going to

858
00:50:21,760 --> 00:50:27,360
Speaker 1: get through it. And I think it's really smart. And

859
00:50:27,600 --> 00:50:30,440
Speaker 1: also it's really nice as an audience member to see

860
00:50:30,520 --> 00:50:34,160
Speaker 1: our hero, you know, Nathan Scott is like he's the

861
00:50:34,200 --> 00:50:39,640
Speaker 1: superhero of one trio and he doesn't try to save

862
00:50:39,680 --> 00:50:42,920
Speaker 1: the day. He just sits with his kid. Yeah, and

863
00:50:42,960 --> 00:50:47,840
Speaker 1: it's like it that's a really beautiful choice.

864
00:50:48,480 --> 00:50:52,400
Speaker 4: Yeah, I love that. Speaking of pianos, I loved Grub

865
00:50:52,440 --> 00:50:56,319
Speaker 4: playing to Miranda Grubs excuse me playing to Miranda? Did

866
00:50:56,360 --> 00:50:57,240
Speaker 4: you find yourself?

867
00:50:57,280 --> 00:50:57,480
Speaker 5: Though?

868
00:50:57,520 --> 00:51:01,520
Speaker 4: And he's singing and the first line is tell me

869
00:51:01,560 --> 00:51:03,399
Speaker 4: why we were talking when we dance so good?

870
00:51:03,719 --> 00:51:04,359
Speaker 1: Yeah.

871
00:51:04,400 --> 00:51:08,600
Speaker 4: I was like, no, sir, you dance well. But I

872
00:51:08,640 --> 00:51:11,319
Speaker 4: realized it had because it had two rhymes with the

873
00:51:11,360 --> 00:51:13,960
Speaker 4: following sentence, but every time he said it, I felt

874
00:51:13,960 --> 00:51:16,239
Speaker 4: that little, like neurotic voice in my head, going, you

875
00:51:16,360 --> 00:51:17,959
Speaker 4: dance well, you don't dance good?

876
00:51:18,120 --> 00:51:22,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, your grammar Nerd is like activated. I think what

877
00:51:22,800 --> 00:51:26,759
Speaker 1: was really fun for me about it is again, I

878
00:51:26,800 --> 00:51:29,120
Speaker 1: you know, I knew their storyline was coming, and I

879
00:51:29,160 --> 00:51:32,680
Speaker 1: remember how it develops, but I didn't remember the episode

880
00:51:32,719 --> 00:51:37,279
Speaker 1: by episode specifics. And I love that song, and so

881
00:51:37,360 --> 00:51:40,040
Speaker 1: when he started, I was like, ah, it's here, it's here,

882
00:51:40,920 --> 00:51:44,080
Speaker 1: Like I just felt really excited. And and I think

883
00:51:44,160 --> 00:51:50,520
Speaker 1: they have such great chemistry and it's so nice to

884
00:51:50,680 --> 00:51:56,120
Speaker 1: watch him make music. And I don't know, I this

885
00:51:56,200 --> 00:52:01,560
Speaker 1: is the hopeless romantic in me, you know, who desire

886
00:52:01,719 --> 00:52:04,480
Speaker 1: to believe in the rom coms like will Never Die.

887
00:52:05,200 --> 00:52:07,880
Speaker 1: He's like, marry me, and I'm like, do it, just

888
00:52:07,920 --> 00:52:08,279
Speaker 1: do it?

889
00:52:08,640 --> 00:52:09,120
Speaker 4: Stay?

890
00:52:09,239 --> 00:52:11,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, you figure it out later. Who cares, you know?

891
00:52:12,000 --> 00:52:14,120
Speaker 1: And I'm like, am I am I good? Like I

892
00:52:14,160 --> 00:52:17,240
Speaker 1: am rooting for her to take him up on this offer,

893
00:52:18,000 --> 00:52:20,160
Speaker 1: And when he just stands there and sings to her,

894
00:52:20,239 --> 00:52:22,120
Speaker 1: I'm like, yeah, man, do it.

895
00:52:22,480 --> 00:52:27,239
Speaker 4: I was confused by the time that he says marry me.

896
00:52:27,360 --> 00:52:31,600
Speaker 4: They have they have kissed, right, Like, aren't they they're

897
00:52:31,600 --> 00:52:34,359
Speaker 4: they're kind of dating, right, doesn't he? Yeah, she goes,

898
00:52:34,400 --> 00:52:36,920
Speaker 4: I think I have a boyfriend, because I was. I

899
00:52:36,960 --> 00:52:40,319
Speaker 4: was surprised with how taken aback she was. I get

900
00:52:40,320 --> 00:52:42,120
Speaker 4: that marriage is a big thing, but in this situation,

901
00:52:42,160 --> 00:52:45,440
Speaker 4: if you're already dating the person, I had the same

902
00:52:45,520 --> 00:52:47,360
Speaker 4: action as you. I went, this is actually just a

903
00:52:47,400 --> 00:52:47,960
Speaker 4: good plan.

904
00:52:49,160 --> 00:52:49,359
Speaker 3: Right.

905
00:52:50,239 --> 00:52:53,040
Speaker 1: Well, by the way, that's also being an adult. You're like, listen, Logistically,

906
00:52:53,120 --> 00:52:54,760
Speaker 1: it's a great idea because if you get to ported,

907
00:52:54,800 --> 00:52:56,759
Speaker 1: you're probably never going to be able to come back. Yeah,

908
00:52:56,760 --> 00:52:59,799
Speaker 1: but you could absolutely get married and then you know, dissolved,

909
00:53:00,280 --> 00:53:02,880
Speaker 1: have a dissolution file for a freakin annulment if you

910
00:53:02,920 --> 00:53:05,400
Speaker 1: need to, Like, we'll figure the details out later. Like

911
00:53:05,440 --> 00:53:09,400
Speaker 1: I immediately go into what is the more sort of

912
00:53:09,520 --> 00:53:12,720
Speaker 1: responsible strategic plan here so that these two can figure

913
00:53:12,719 --> 00:53:16,239
Speaker 1: out what they're doing. And I don't know, maybe we're

914
00:53:16,280 --> 00:53:19,080
Speaker 1: supposed to be so taken aback by that, but I

915
00:53:19,120 --> 00:53:19,919
Speaker 1: was rooting for it.

916
00:53:20,239 --> 00:53:23,120
Speaker 4: I'm a fan. It's so nice that what a luxury

917
00:53:23,760 --> 00:53:26,240
Speaker 4: that we have so many talented musicians on our show,

918
00:53:27,080 --> 00:53:29,760
Speaker 4: And then anytime you see either of them, like winding

919
00:53:29,840 --> 00:53:32,520
Speaker 4: up to sing a song. You're like, yes, let's go.

920
00:53:33,239 --> 00:53:33,600
Speaker 1: I know.

921
00:53:33,800 --> 00:53:37,480
Speaker 4: I was so pumped when he's in the student, I'm like, oh,

922
00:53:37,520 --> 00:53:39,120
Speaker 4: he's going to sing a song about this right now,

923
00:53:39,200 --> 00:53:41,319
Speaker 4: isn't it? When he was writing it actually, when he's writing,

924
00:53:41,360 --> 00:53:42,960
Speaker 4: looking at I was like, Oh, we're about to hear

925
00:53:43,000 --> 00:53:43,719
Speaker 4: a lot song.

926
00:53:44,920 --> 00:53:48,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, I know, it's really sweet. One of the things

927
00:53:48,160 --> 00:53:52,880
Speaker 1: that was interesting to me too is again, there's moments

928
00:53:52,880 --> 00:53:55,160
Speaker 1: that stand out in my memory. So I knew Haley

929
00:53:55,280 --> 00:53:57,320
Speaker 1: was going to set the piano on fire, but I

930
00:53:58,120 --> 00:53:59,880
Speaker 1: couldn't remember. I was like, is it going to be

931
00:53:59,880 --> 00:54:02,480
Speaker 1: the episode? Is it going to be next episode? When

932
00:54:02,480 --> 00:54:04,560
Speaker 1: she sits down with that Martini though ass, I was like,

933
00:54:04,600 --> 00:54:06,440
Speaker 1: oh my god, it's here, it's here, it's here, It's

934
00:54:06,480 --> 00:54:11,279
Speaker 1: gonna happen. I remember what a production it was. With

935
00:54:11,360 --> 00:54:14,759
Speaker 1: the flame bar. You know, there's these for people at home.

936
00:54:14,800 --> 00:54:18,359
Speaker 1: They basically have these metal pipes with holes in them,

937
00:54:18,600 --> 00:54:21,040
Speaker 1: kind of like you do in a gas fireplace that

938
00:54:21,080 --> 00:54:24,680
Speaker 1: they can put on a c stand and essentially suspend

939
00:54:24,800 --> 00:54:27,640
Speaker 1: and make fire come out of it. And they have

940
00:54:27,719 --> 00:54:30,560
Speaker 1: to to get that long line. And obviously we weren't

941
00:54:30,560 --> 00:54:34,400
Speaker 1: going to actually burn like a real expensive grand piano.

942
00:54:36,080 --> 00:54:38,719
Speaker 1: But then Nathan runs in and is like Haley, and

943
00:54:38,760 --> 00:54:40,319
Speaker 1: you know, he pulls her away from the flames and

944
00:54:40,320 --> 00:54:43,319
Speaker 1: he puts the fire out with that blanket. And then

945
00:54:43,360 --> 00:54:46,680
Speaker 1: I was like, and I realized I wanted to see

946
00:54:46,760 --> 00:54:49,279
Speaker 1: him like standing in front of the smoldering piano. And

947
00:54:49,320 --> 00:54:52,200
Speaker 1: then I went, oh, I forgot. We didn't really burn

948
00:54:52,239 --> 00:54:56,160
Speaker 1: the piano, like they couldn't show, you know, the charred

949
00:54:56,239 --> 00:55:02,279
Speaker 1: keys in the shot because it was big. I was

950
00:55:02,440 --> 00:55:03,560
Speaker 1: so bummed about it.

951
00:55:04,360 --> 00:55:07,320
Speaker 4: I thought that we actually set a piano on fire

952
00:55:08,000 --> 00:55:10,680
Speaker 4: until the end of that scene when we never cut

953
00:55:10,719 --> 00:55:14,040
Speaker 4: to a reverse of Nathan's point of view. Yeah, I

954
00:55:14,040 --> 00:55:15,880
Speaker 4: didn't realize that is how we done it, but yes,

955
00:55:16,280 --> 00:55:18,000
Speaker 4: I was sort of I was hoping for the same

956
00:55:18,040 --> 00:55:18,600
Speaker 4: thing as well.

957
00:55:19,080 --> 00:55:22,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, and it's it's funny when you know, you realize

958
00:55:23,400 --> 00:55:27,360
Speaker 1: what great film school training working on a set is

959
00:55:27,520 --> 00:55:29,880
Speaker 1: because as actors were like, oh, I know, I know

960
00:55:29,920 --> 00:55:31,600
Speaker 1: why that's not in the shot, got it? It was

961
00:55:31,680 --> 00:55:32,360
Speaker 1: special effects?

962
00:55:32,400 --> 00:55:32,640
Speaker 4: Cool?

963
00:55:33,080 --> 00:55:35,439
Speaker 1: And then I'm like, god, it sort of can really

964
00:55:35,520 --> 00:55:38,400
Speaker 1: kind of ruin the fun. But it did give me

965
00:55:38,440 --> 00:55:40,160
Speaker 1: a little giggle. I like that you and I both

966
00:55:40,160 --> 00:55:42,919
Speaker 1: were like, oh damn, because I did want to see.

967
00:55:42,960 --> 00:55:44,640
Speaker 1: I wanted smoking keys.

968
00:55:45,040 --> 00:55:48,799
Speaker 4: Yeah, let's see some charred piano. I also loved this

969
00:55:48,920 --> 00:55:51,520
Speaker 4: is the way that scene ends with Haley just sort

970
00:55:51,520 --> 00:55:53,319
Speaker 4: of in her haze, just saying I'm going to go

971
00:55:53,400 --> 00:55:54,080
Speaker 4: call my mom.

972
00:55:54,640 --> 00:55:55,680
Speaker 1: That broke heart.

973
00:55:56,520 --> 00:56:00,680
Speaker 4: It's simultaneously told you how not in touch with reality

974
00:56:00,760 --> 00:56:02,840
Speaker 4: she was and just how heartbroken she was.

975
00:56:03,360 --> 00:56:10,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, the stress and the experience of grief is like

976
00:56:11,120 --> 00:56:14,600
Speaker 1: breaking her brand's ability to process the timeline.

977
00:56:17,120 --> 00:56:20,960
Speaker 4: I also liked that we got an explanation as to

978
00:56:21,040 --> 00:56:24,160
Speaker 4: why Katie currently is the way she is. Yes, when

979
00:56:24,200 --> 00:56:28,560
Speaker 4: Clay has a casual lunch date with her roommate, she's like,

980
00:56:28,920 --> 00:56:32,000
Speaker 4: she's off her lithium. It gets bad, and he's like

981
00:56:32,040 --> 00:56:35,799
Speaker 4: how bad. She's like, real bad, Mollie. You in danger girl?

982
00:56:36,320 --> 00:56:37,680
Speaker 1: Yeah. Run.

983
00:56:39,239 --> 00:56:40,920
Speaker 4: So that was nice to have some explanation because for

984
00:56:40,960 --> 00:56:44,359
Speaker 4: a couple of episodes, I've just been going why why

985
00:56:44,360 --> 00:56:47,279
Speaker 4: would you, yeah, suddenly be obsessed with a guy and

986
00:56:47,320 --> 00:56:50,080
Speaker 4: you have a lot going on exactly. And then the

987
00:56:50,640 --> 00:56:53,080
Speaker 4: other thing I really liked, which was just sort of

988
00:56:53,080 --> 00:56:56,760
Speaker 4: a one off scene, was Skills and Jamie at lunch.

989
00:56:57,719 --> 00:57:00,440
Speaker 1: I was just gonna say, this is actually, this is

990
00:57:00,480 --> 00:57:02,200
Speaker 1: my Honorable mention for the episode.

991
00:57:02,960 --> 00:57:06,279
Speaker 4: Yes, all right, take it away. Tell the folks why

992
00:57:06,320 --> 00:57:08,160
Speaker 4: we love it them.

993
00:57:08,480 --> 00:57:10,640
Speaker 1: First of all, it's so cute to see Skills and

994
00:57:10,760 --> 00:57:14,000
Speaker 1: Jamie out on their own lunch date of sorts. And

995
00:57:15,239 --> 00:57:17,440
Speaker 1: I love that a you know, a grown up and

996
00:57:17,480 --> 00:57:20,320
Speaker 1: a kid are talking to each other as equals. It's

997
00:57:20,320 --> 00:57:25,640
Speaker 1: a really fun dynamic. And when Jamie says, but he's

998
00:57:25,680 --> 00:57:28,720
Speaker 1: your friend, and he's like yeah, and he's still my girl.

999
00:57:29,720 --> 00:57:32,600
Speaker 1: And to have a child say well, you stile here

1000
00:57:32,640 --> 00:57:36,560
Speaker 1: from me first and we're still friends. To point out

1001
00:57:36,600 --> 00:57:41,680
Speaker 1: that all sorts of people have feelings of all kinds,

1002
00:57:42,080 --> 00:57:45,800
Speaker 1: and you know, maybe friendship is worth more than that.

1003
00:57:46,840 --> 00:57:49,520
Speaker 1: It's it's refreshing because Brooke has done it. We were

1004
00:57:49,520 --> 00:57:52,360
Speaker 1: talking about this earlier, like I'm the second one to

1005
00:57:52,360 --> 00:57:55,600
Speaker 1: go check on mouth, right, and I do it. And

1006
00:57:55,640 --> 00:57:58,040
Speaker 1: he says, well, you know, Peyton gave you a black

1007
00:57:58,080 --> 00:57:59,560
Speaker 1: eye and she's like yeah, and you told me I

1008
00:57:59,600 --> 00:58:03,080
Speaker 1: had to make up with her. Uh, you know. And

1009
00:58:03,080 --> 00:58:05,800
Speaker 1: then it's like Pete married Lucas, Like what conversation are

1010
00:58:05,840 --> 00:58:09,120
Speaker 1: we having about you three at this point? And the

1011
00:58:09,280 --> 00:58:13,000
Speaker 1: humor of that that mouth gets that from his oldest

1012
00:58:13,040 --> 00:58:16,520
Speaker 1: friend and then Skills gets that from his like best

1013
00:58:16,520 --> 00:58:21,600
Speaker 1: little buddy, and it's so simple, Like it's the perfect

1014
00:58:21,720 --> 00:58:26,720
Speaker 1: kind of real life manifestation of that phrase from the

1015
00:58:26,760 --> 00:58:29,960
Speaker 1: mouths of babes, Like kids just get it, and Jamie

1016
00:58:30,000 --> 00:58:32,800
Speaker 1: just gets it. And he's like the first person that

1017
00:58:32,960 --> 00:58:35,560
Speaker 1: can remind Skills of the bigger picture.

1018
00:58:36,760 --> 00:58:39,520
Speaker 4: Yeah, he's a wise little owl. Remember that when there

1019
00:58:39,560 --> 00:58:42,400
Speaker 4: was the beef going on between Mouth and Skills about

1020
00:58:42,440 --> 00:58:44,720
Speaker 4: moving out. Yeah, and they were doing like the naked

1021
00:58:44,720 --> 00:58:48,440
Speaker 4: off and all that stuff, and Jamie goes, uh, Skills

1022
00:58:48,480 --> 00:58:50,640
Speaker 4: explains the whole thing and how he's feeling to Jamie,

1023
00:58:50,680 --> 00:58:52,800
Speaker 4: and Jamie goes, what did he say when you told

1024
00:58:52,880 --> 00:58:55,720
Speaker 4: him that? And he goes, I haven't told him that.

1025
00:58:56,320 --> 00:59:00,200
Speaker 4: He's like, tell him that. And again it's like it's

1026
00:59:00,240 --> 00:59:03,240
Speaker 4: the simplest thing, you know. But Yeah, I love the

1027
00:59:03,280 --> 00:59:06,360
Speaker 4: scene for all those reasons. And I also just really

1028
00:59:06,480 --> 00:59:10,720
Speaker 4: liked because this also made me kind of soften towards Skills,

1029
00:59:10,720 --> 00:59:13,120
Speaker 4: because I've been a little bit annoyed with the behavior,

1030
00:59:13,200 --> 00:59:16,560
Speaker 4: you know, like I want better of him. There is

1031
00:59:17,080 --> 00:59:21,919
Speaker 4: something special as a parent about seeing another adult take

1032
00:59:21,920 --> 00:59:25,480
Speaker 4: an interest and invest in your child. And I loved

1033
00:59:25,800 --> 00:59:28,200
Speaker 4: so many people are an uncle or there, this or that,

1034
00:59:28,240 --> 00:59:30,080
Speaker 4: but it's like they really only see the kid when

1035
00:59:30,120 --> 00:59:33,120
Speaker 4: they stop by. And I loved it so much. It

1036
00:59:33,120 --> 00:59:34,800
Speaker 4: made its such an impression on me to see that

1037
00:59:35,720 --> 00:59:39,520
Speaker 4: part of his day. He planned an event for him

1038
00:59:39,760 --> 00:59:42,000
Speaker 4: and Jamie to go out, just the two of them

1039
00:59:42,040 --> 00:59:44,760
Speaker 4: and hang out as friends, because that is stuff that

1040
00:59:44,880 --> 00:59:49,880
Speaker 4: Jamie will never forget. And it's really truly showing up

1041
00:59:49,920 --> 00:59:52,280
Speaker 4: as an uncle and someone who cares for that little kid.

1042
00:59:52,800 --> 00:59:56,760
Speaker 4: And so I found myself going, all right, skills, yeah,

1043
00:59:56,880 --> 00:59:57,760
Speaker 4: I still love you.

1044
00:59:58,280 --> 01:00:04,040
Speaker 1: It's so sweet. Great episode, for sure, great episode.

1045
01:00:04,200 --> 01:00:07,200
Speaker 4: Honorable mens he is the honorable mensh.

1046
01:00:07,440 --> 01:00:23,919
Speaker 1: Yeah, good ones. Alyssa wants to know we never met

1047
01:00:23,960 --> 01:00:27,760
Speaker 1: Clay's parents. Who would you have cast to play them?

1048
01:00:28,680 --> 01:00:31,520
Speaker 4: Oh my gosh, I have an immediate answer. Really, yes,

1049
01:00:32,600 --> 01:00:38,280
Speaker 4: two National Treasures, Ted Danson, Mary Steam Virgin. Oh my god, yes,

1050
01:00:40,720 --> 01:00:44,480
Speaker 4: because professionally they are both just incredible and they would

1051
01:00:44,520 --> 01:00:49,720
Speaker 4: be great. But personally I love those two so much.

1052
01:00:49,760 --> 01:00:52,040
Speaker 4: I don't know them personally, but just I just I

1053
01:00:52,080 --> 01:00:55,000
Speaker 4: adore them anything they're and I'm like, I already like it,

1054
01:00:55,120 --> 01:00:57,840
Speaker 4: what are they up to? They would have been great?

1055
01:00:58,240 --> 01:01:00,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, Oh my god, they would have been so fun.

1056
01:01:00,080 --> 01:01:03,400
Speaker 1: Ted dancing so cool. I it's crazy that you say that.

1057
01:01:05,040 --> 01:01:08,640
Speaker 1: I want to say. I want to say it was

1058
01:01:10,880 --> 01:01:15,400
Speaker 1: maybe after season seven, I did a pilot in second

1059
01:01:15,440 --> 01:01:19,800
Speaker 1: position to our show, and Mary Stein Virgin played my

1060
01:01:19,840 --> 01:01:24,360
Speaker 1: mom and Don Johnson played my dad.

1061
01:01:24,840 --> 01:01:25,160
Speaker 4: WHOA.

1062
01:01:25,880 --> 01:01:32,160
Speaker 1: It was like the most fun I've ever had. It was, Yeah,

1063
01:01:32,680 --> 01:01:38,000
Speaker 1: and Mary Stein Virgin is so cool, Like she's so cool,

1064
01:01:38,640 --> 01:01:42,320
Speaker 1: and you know, our show got picked up and that

1065
01:01:42,360 --> 01:01:45,840
Speaker 1: pilot didn't. And I remember just being like, I'm so happy,

1066
01:01:46,080 --> 01:01:49,440
Speaker 1: and I'm also so sad, like I'm so glad to

1067
01:01:49,480 --> 01:01:51,400
Speaker 1: be going back to work with my friends, and I'm

1068
01:01:51,440 --> 01:01:53,400
Speaker 1: also so crushed I don't get to go to work

1069
01:01:53,640 --> 01:02:03,840
Speaker 1: with these amazing people. I like people like that. You

1070
01:02:04,000 --> 01:02:07,520
Speaker 1: just when you get to work with people of that

1071
01:02:07,560 --> 01:02:11,400
Speaker 1: sort of caliber, like to do a show with Ted Danson,

1072
01:02:11,440 --> 01:02:15,040
Speaker 1: that would that would probably change you, you know, as

1073
01:02:15,080 --> 01:02:16,040
Speaker 1: a performer forever.

1074
01:02:16,760 --> 01:02:19,080
Speaker 4: Yeah. I would read a phone book with Ted. I

1075
01:02:19,080 --> 01:02:22,040
Speaker 4: would do anything. If they're like, it's a commercial for

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Speaker 4: Herpies medication, You'd be like, fine, and you have to

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Speaker 4: be the spokesperson. But Ted Danson's going to be in it.

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Speaker 4: I'd be like, slap a fake cole sore on me. Baby,

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Speaker 4: we're doing this thing. I want to meet Ted Danson.

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Speaker 1: I love it. Okay, well, ted Danson, we love you.

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Speaker 1: We love you, guys, Rispin a wheel. Let's imagine it's like,

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Speaker 1: who do you think would be most likely to do

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Speaker 1: a film with Ted Danson?

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Speaker 4: Oh my gosh, who do you like more? Ted Danson

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Speaker 4: or Mary Steam Virgin. We're like, no, most likely to

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Speaker 4: forget their anniversary. Well, listen, if we're allowed to get

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Speaker 4: ahead of ourselves a bit, I'm going to say Clay

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Speaker 4: because he has a prepare for being forgetful about things.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that feels fair. That feels fair. Dates are kind

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Speaker 1: of tough for me, Like I have to look at

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Speaker 1: calendars all the time to make sure I'm not inverting numbers.

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Speaker 1: But I'm also so sentimental. I was gonna be like,

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Speaker 1: maybe it's me, and then I'm like, no, absolutely not,

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Speaker 1: I would never. I don't think I could do that.

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Speaker 4: You mean you as in Sophia not broh.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Yeah, yeah, yeah, I got because you because you

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Speaker 1: got you got the character. And then I was like,

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Speaker 1: is it me? But no, I don't think it would

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Speaker 1: be me. There's things though, that numerically I struggle with, like, yeah,

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Speaker 1: you need to know about you know, when the women

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Speaker 1: in Iceland walked out to protest and how you know

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Speaker 1: it took however many days and it was ninety four

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Speaker 1: percent of the population. Like I can take you through

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Speaker 1: some social science, historical something. I I there are people

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Speaker 1: in my life whose phone numbers I do not know

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Speaker 1: and should and I'm like, I don't know, I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I know the shapes, but I don't know what order

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Speaker 1: they go in. But like some I read about that

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Speaker 1: impacted me about like, wow, that was a thing that

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Speaker 1: we did that worked good for humans. I'll never forget it.

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Speaker 1: And it doesn't make any sense.

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Speaker 4: Have you ever heard how Einstein had a trouble counting

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Speaker 4: his bus change?

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Speaker 1: No? Yeah, my god, are you saying I'm Einstein?

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Speaker 4: What I'm basically saying, Sophia Bush, is that I think

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Speaker 4: you are the Albert Einstein of social and cultural historical

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Speaker 4: movements and reads.

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Speaker 1: News makes me want to sob a little bit.

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Speaker 4: So the next time you forget a phone number or

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Speaker 4: how to tie your shoes, little buddy, just remember you're

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Speaker 4: kind of Albert.

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Speaker 1: I like and the bunny rabbit. Oh I love it.

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Speaker 1: This is so good okay, friends, We're going to see

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Speaker 1: you next week for season seven, episode twenty one. What's

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Speaker 1: in the Ground Belongs to You? You sounds ominous?

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Speaker 4: Can't wait?

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Speaker 1: Can't wait?

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Speaker 4: Why everybody?

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