1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:27,320 Speaker 1: Ridiculous History is a production of I Heart Radio. Welcome 2 00:00:27,320 --> 00:00:30,360 Speaker 1: back to the show Ridiculous Historians. Thank you as always 3 00:00:30,440 --> 00:00:36,040 Speaker 1: so much fortuning in. That's Mr Max Williams on the 4 00:00:36,200 --> 00:00:39,800 Speaker 1: audio ones and twos. Here they called me ben uh Noel. 5 00:00:40,600 --> 00:00:42,640 Speaker 1: Have you ever met a wolf? From that one? I 6 00:00:42,680 --> 00:00:47,160 Speaker 1: didn't like, Buddy, here we go. I like that positive vibe. Yeah, 7 00:00:47,520 --> 00:00:52,239 Speaker 1: I um, I've I've been lucky enough to encounter wolves 8 00:00:52,440 --> 00:00:56,440 Speaker 1: in uh non aggressive way. I've also met some wolf dogs, 9 00:00:57,080 --> 00:01:00,280 Speaker 1: which are you know, a combination of some percentage wolf 10 00:01:00,360 --> 00:01:03,240 Speaker 1: some percentage dog. Max, you ever had a run in 11 00:01:03,320 --> 00:01:05,399 Speaker 1: with a wolf? I have not had to run in 12 00:01:05,440 --> 00:01:08,399 Speaker 1: with a wolf before. I would be Yeah, I'm trying 13 00:01:08,400 --> 00:01:09,800 Speaker 1: to think now. I can't think of a single time 14 00:01:09,840 --> 00:01:12,000 Speaker 1: I would be absolutely terrified. You know, I prefer the 15 00:01:12,000 --> 00:01:17,080 Speaker 1: felines over the canines. But at this always wondering why 16 00:01:17,080 --> 00:01:19,560 Speaker 1: they call you Max the wolf Williams. Then where'd that 17 00:01:19,560 --> 00:01:21,920 Speaker 1: come from? I think, you know, I don't know, especially 18 00:01:21,920 --> 00:01:24,319 Speaker 1: because that's like the first time I've ever heard that. Um, 19 00:01:24,360 --> 00:01:27,800 Speaker 1: you know, I don't know. Surely you jest, Max, surely 20 00:01:27,840 --> 00:01:31,080 Speaker 1: you jest. I we also had here in Atlanta. I 21 00:01:31,080 --> 00:01:34,280 Speaker 1: don't know whether you guys remember, but we had a 22 00:01:34,360 --> 00:01:39,679 Speaker 1: furniture tycoon, local furniture tycoon named the Wolf Band and 23 00:01:39,720 --> 00:01:43,800 Speaker 1: he was his commercials were also was a hollerin who 24 00:01:43,840 --> 00:01:48,040 Speaker 1: was always beefing with a lady named Donna. So congratulations 25 00:01:48,040 --> 00:01:52,080 Speaker 1: to the to the five people who will get that reference. 26 00:01:52,440 --> 00:01:54,080 Speaker 1: Oh more than five people are gonna get that one 27 00:01:54,160 --> 00:01:56,960 Speaker 1: people know that reference. He I didn't grow up around here, 28 00:01:57,000 --> 00:02:02,320 Speaker 1: so I did not see these surely delightful local television commercials. 29 00:02:02,800 --> 00:02:04,880 Speaker 1: And where I grew up there was a place. There 30 00:02:04,920 --> 00:02:09,079 Speaker 1: was a place called Master Fabricators. It was like like 31 00:02:09,120 --> 00:02:11,120 Speaker 1: a garage shop, but they had like a song. It 32 00:02:11,200 --> 00:02:14,000 Speaker 1: was like you always get the chaft, the drive chaft 33 00:02:14,160 --> 00:02:19,160 Speaker 1: and Master Fabricators. Nice. That's that's all I have to 34 00:02:19,200 --> 00:02:22,720 Speaker 1: say about them. There we go, well, uh, there's there're spokes. 35 00:02:22,760 --> 00:02:25,560 Speaker 1: Creature was a monkey nice. Well you know, I know 36 00:02:25,800 --> 00:02:28,720 Speaker 1: some of our Atlanta crew are going to be a 37 00:02:28,720 --> 00:02:31,480 Speaker 1: bit disappointed that this episode is not about the wolf 38 00:02:31,480 --> 00:02:36,160 Speaker 1: Man and Donna, But it is about wolves because even like, 39 00:02:36,360 --> 00:02:40,040 Speaker 1: think of the people that you have had your differences with, um, 40 00:02:40,080 --> 00:02:42,920 Speaker 1: whether they're family members, whether they're you know, friends from 41 00:02:42,960 --> 00:02:45,359 Speaker 1: college or high school, what have you? The fact of 42 00:02:45,400 --> 00:02:48,239 Speaker 1: the matter is that when people's lives are on the line, 43 00:02:48,520 --> 00:02:53,679 Speaker 1: humans are pretty good at putting their differences aside temporarily too, 44 00:02:54,360 --> 00:02:57,880 Speaker 1: in the interest of mutual survival. Right, So this is 45 00:02:57,919 --> 00:03:01,600 Speaker 1: where our story takes place. I first ran into this 46 00:03:01,680 --> 00:03:06,120 Speaker 1: idea in the world of graphic novels and comic books 47 00:03:06,120 --> 00:03:09,440 Speaker 1: and short stories, and then later films. Uh, it's it's 48 00:03:09,440 --> 00:03:14,480 Speaker 1: a trope almost now. It's the idea that during World 49 00:03:14,480 --> 00:03:19,840 Speaker 1: War either one or two, the legend goes opposing sides 50 00:03:20,360 --> 00:03:24,240 Speaker 1: of the conflict in a remote part of Europe actually 51 00:03:25,480 --> 00:03:30,240 Speaker 1: teamed up to protect themselves from wild animals, and it's 52 00:03:30,600 --> 00:03:36,200 Speaker 1: now often called the Wolf Truce. Today's question, No, I 53 00:03:36,560 --> 00:03:40,040 Speaker 1: think we're going to have to figure this out. Did 54 00:03:40,040 --> 00:03:43,000 Speaker 1: it really happen? Like have you have you seen those 55 00:03:43,040 --> 00:03:45,440 Speaker 1: movies where they you know, they depict stuff like this 56 00:03:45,600 --> 00:03:48,960 Speaker 1: or the stories. No, not not so much war related. 57 00:03:49,000 --> 00:03:51,400 Speaker 1: I mean, obviously we've talked about the brotherhood of the 58 00:03:51,440 --> 00:03:55,560 Speaker 1: wolf in the past, like the Beast of right, I 59 00:03:55,560 --> 00:03:58,000 Speaker 1: think we did that one on this show, um, where 60 00:03:58,040 --> 00:04:01,960 Speaker 1: there was a mysterious beast on the loose killing you know, 61 00:04:02,280 --> 00:04:05,520 Speaker 1: regular civilians and uh folks had to kind of band 62 00:04:05,560 --> 00:04:08,280 Speaker 1: together to do something about it. But uh, this does 63 00:04:08,320 --> 00:04:12,080 Speaker 1: seem like excellent fodder for some some fiction. It's also 64 00:04:12,200 --> 00:04:15,040 Speaker 1: very appropriate considering the situation we find ourselves in now 65 00:04:15,240 --> 00:04:21,400 Speaker 1: geo politically, where Russia is concerned. So let's travel back. 66 00:04:21,440 --> 00:04:23,400 Speaker 1: I don't think there's any wolves in the mix yet, 67 00:04:23,480 --> 00:04:27,520 Speaker 1: but you know, it's it's an ongoing, developing story. There 68 00:04:27,560 --> 00:04:31,320 Speaker 1: were more wolves back then, but humans have never really 69 00:04:31,400 --> 00:04:34,920 Speaker 1: needed the help of other species to harm each other sadly. 70 00:04:35,120 --> 00:04:39,800 Speaker 1: So yeah, so I like that comparison though. So let's 71 00:04:39,880 --> 00:04:47,080 Speaker 1: travel back to the winter of nineteen seventeen, not necessarily 72 00:04:47,120 --> 00:04:49,360 Speaker 1: the Winter of our Discontent, but I think they were 73 00:04:49,360 --> 00:04:54,000 Speaker 1: probably some pretty discontented people, yes, wandering around. Yeah, yeah, 74 00:04:54,040 --> 00:04:58,240 Speaker 1: this is World War One. If you're a Russian, you're 75 00:04:58,320 --> 00:05:02,719 Speaker 1: probably fighting some Germans. Your German, you're probably fighting some Russians. Uh, 76 00:05:02,760 --> 00:05:05,920 Speaker 1: And you have all the worries of a typical war, right, 77 00:05:06,040 --> 00:05:09,440 Speaker 1: people are shooting at you, people are trying to kill you. 78 00:05:09,839 --> 00:05:13,200 Speaker 1: But then also you have a bunch of diseases that 79 00:05:13,240 --> 00:05:16,039 Speaker 1: you could get in the brutal weather. It's easy to 80 00:05:16,040 --> 00:05:21,640 Speaker 1: get frostbite, sniper fire is a thing, artillery, and then 81 00:05:21,720 --> 00:05:27,320 Speaker 1: also wolves because it's nine. So on top of everything wolves. Yeah, 82 00:05:27,400 --> 00:05:31,280 Speaker 1: not to mention trench foot. That sounds that sounds tough. 83 00:05:31,360 --> 00:05:34,360 Speaker 1: Trench foot, yes, it was. It just trench mouth a 84 00:05:34,440 --> 00:05:36,560 Speaker 1: thing too, was Are they related or they I don't know, 85 00:05:36,600 --> 00:05:38,760 Speaker 1: I think they are, But trench foot was definitely like, 86 00:05:39,760 --> 00:05:41,680 Speaker 1: uh like a sort of ganger in a situation. Do 87 00:05:41,760 --> 00:05:44,599 Speaker 1: you get as a result of wallowing around in the 88 00:05:44,680 --> 00:05:49,200 Speaker 1: muck and the mire of trench warfare, leaving your feet 89 00:05:49,480 --> 00:05:53,240 Speaker 1: in water or in the wet for long long periods 90 00:05:53,240 --> 00:05:56,640 Speaker 1: of time. I suppose you could get trench hand too, 91 00:05:56,960 --> 00:06:00,440 Speaker 1: if you just didn't move your hand. I don't know. 92 00:06:00,680 --> 00:06:04,080 Speaker 1: Oh yeah. Trench mouth was just basically a really gnarly 93 00:06:04,120 --> 00:06:07,919 Speaker 1: form of gingevitis that was also caused by life in 94 00:06:07,960 --> 00:06:11,400 Speaker 1: the overly moist and monkey trenches. I like the idea 95 00:06:11,640 --> 00:06:16,760 Speaker 1: of of theoretically everybody part possibly being affected with this, 96 00:06:16,880 --> 00:06:20,600 Speaker 1: Like you could get trench ere, someone could get trench elbow. 97 00:06:21,080 --> 00:06:23,920 Speaker 1: What we're saying is war is a nasty thing, and 98 00:06:23,960 --> 00:06:28,920 Speaker 1: these people were in really nasty, brutal conditions and they 99 00:06:28,920 --> 00:06:32,400 Speaker 1: were shooting into each other. So the First World War 100 00:06:33,040 --> 00:06:39,320 Speaker 1: was one of the most uh widespread, really conflicts in 101 00:06:39,400 --> 00:06:43,920 Speaker 1: the history of humanity because you had mass transportation, you 102 00:06:43,960 --> 00:06:48,960 Speaker 1: had multiple conflicting alliances in the patchwork of European countries, 103 00:06:49,560 --> 00:06:54,120 Speaker 1: and this would mean that millions of people joined the fray, 104 00:06:54,320 --> 00:06:58,520 Speaker 1: like millions of soldiers yea. And millions of people died 105 00:06:58,640 --> 00:07:03,520 Speaker 1: in the Fray, including seven to twelve million civilians. On 106 00:07:03,560 --> 00:07:08,360 Speaker 1: about fifty five million people sustained serious injuries. Because of 107 00:07:08,760 --> 00:07:16,200 Speaker 1: the First World War, several empires essentially vanished, UH. The Russian, German, 108 00:07:16,280 --> 00:07:20,640 Speaker 1: Austro Hungarian, Ottoman empires for all intents and purposes ceased 109 00:07:20,680 --> 00:07:24,960 Speaker 1: to exist uh. And this war was also a major 110 00:07:25,720 --> 00:07:29,840 Speaker 1: tipping point for a number of other revolutions. One of 111 00:07:29,840 --> 00:07:34,640 Speaker 1: these revolutions seemed to take place in the the Animal Kingdom. 112 00:07:34,680 --> 00:07:40,320 Speaker 1: The wolves, it seemed, were restless and we're on the move. Yeah, yeah, 113 00:07:40,480 --> 00:07:43,080 Speaker 1: because this does occur in the natural world, right, so 114 00:07:43,160 --> 00:07:48,040 Speaker 1: ecology is affected as well. We're specifically looking at the 115 00:07:48,080 --> 00:07:51,440 Speaker 1: Eastern Fronts, which is an area extending from the Black 116 00:07:51,520 --> 00:07:53,720 Speaker 1: Sea in the south all the way to the Baltic 117 00:07:53,840 --> 00:08:00,720 Speaker 1: Sea in the north. This here's what happened. So war 118 00:08:01,080 --> 00:08:05,440 Speaker 1: is like a great whale passing through water, a great 119 00:08:05,520 --> 00:08:09,440 Speaker 1: and terrible leviathan. It leaves ripples, it leaves things in 120 00:08:09,480 --> 00:08:14,000 Speaker 1: its wake, and in this case it also war left 121 00:08:14,000 --> 00:08:18,120 Speaker 1: a lot of corpses, and you see scavengers of all types, 122 00:08:18,400 --> 00:08:21,600 Speaker 1: human and non human, coming to see what they can 123 00:08:21,600 --> 00:08:26,320 Speaker 1: get from these battle fields. So you will have let's 124 00:08:26,360 --> 00:08:30,240 Speaker 1: be clear, there were humans robbing dead bodies. That's part 125 00:08:30,280 --> 00:08:33,120 Speaker 1: of it, and it's gruesome, but it really happens. But 126 00:08:33,280 --> 00:08:41,000 Speaker 1: then there were animal scavengers, carrion eaters, and wolves who 127 00:08:41,040 --> 00:08:45,160 Speaker 1: got forced from the Eastern Front. Most wolves don't want 128 00:08:45,160 --> 00:08:48,000 Speaker 1: to mess with you. They're not interested in you. You know, 129 00:08:48,120 --> 00:08:51,360 Speaker 1: most wild animals don't really want to hang out with you. 130 00:08:51,440 --> 00:08:53,120 Speaker 1: And if they do want to hang out with you, 131 00:08:53,840 --> 00:08:57,600 Speaker 1: run But but the walked slowly away and try to 132 00:08:57,600 --> 00:09:00,640 Speaker 1: make yourself as big as possible. But the uh, the 133 00:09:00,720 --> 00:09:04,480 Speaker 1: thing with the wolves is they're more than happy living 134 00:09:04,520 --> 00:09:06,839 Speaker 1: in the wild and never seen a human beings. When 135 00:09:06,840 --> 00:09:09,280 Speaker 1: they get forced out by like the noise and the 136 00:09:09,360 --> 00:09:13,240 Speaker 1: chaos of war, they gotta go somewhere. Yeah, it's twofold, right. 137 00:09:13,280 --> 00:09:15,839 Speaker 1: I mean they're not only you know, forced from their 138 00:09:15,960 --> 00:09:19,760 Speaker 1: natural habitats, which would make them pretty cranky. They're also 139 00:09:19,840 --> 00:09:23,800 Speaker 1: attracted to the smell of rotting corpses. Out in the battlefield, 140 00:09:24,280 --> 00:09:27,720 Speaker 1: and it's sort of easy pickings for them to to 141 00:09:27,800 --> 00:09:31,480 Speaker 1: have a little snack. Once they've exhausted this food supply 142 00:09:31,559 --> 00:09:35,160 Speaker 1: and get a little boulder, they start to target like 143 00:09:35,480 --> 00:09:39,280 Speaker 1: the kind that's still walking around. Yeah, they're naturally going 144 00:09:39,360 --> 00:09:43,200 Speaker 1: to prefer the animals that they prey on already in 145 00:09:43,280 --> 00:09:47,040 Speaker 1: the pre war ecology, right, But those animals are getting 146 00:09:47,120 --> 00:09:50,440 Speaker 1: hunted by soldiers. Those animals are also getting driven away 147 00:09:50,640 --> 00:09:54,160 Speaker 1: or just randomly shot by board people, so they have 148 00:09:54,280 --> 00:09:58,000 Speaker 1: to resort to some sort of sustenance. And like you said, no, 149 00:09:58,520 --> 00:10:03,600 Speaker 1: they started eating corpse is and eventually, you know, the 150 00:10:03,640 --> 00:10:08,240 Speaker 1: same thing happens with man eating lions or tigers. In 151 00:10:08,280 --> 00:10:11,840 Speaker 1: those situations, usually the animal has had its teeth or 152 00:10:11,840 --> 00:10:14,840 Speaker 1: its jaw damage, or it's older such they can't hunt 153 00:10:14,840 --> 00:10:19,160 Speaker 1: its natural prey, so then it goes to humans, which 154 00:10:19,200 --> 00:10:22,439 Speaker 1: are relatively easy to take if you're a lion, a tiger, 155 00:10:22,640 --> 00:10:27,280 Speaker 1: and so on. We know that the media was aware 156 00:10:27,320 --> 00:10:30,160 Speaker 1: of this. There's a great Mental Floss article that explains 157 00:10:30,200 --> 00:10:35,840 Speaker 1: this by Lucas Riley. Remember that name, folks, Uh, yes, 158 00:10:36,640 --> 00:10:39,320 Speaker 1: we know him. We know Lucas and he does an 159 00:10:39,360 --> 00:10:43,000 Speaker 1: excellent job with this story. Of mental floss, and he 160 00:10:43,120 --> 00:10:46,280 Speaker 1: notes how people were talking about this. Authorities were talking 161 00:10:46,320 --> 00:10:51,160 Speaker 1: about this as well. In February of a report from 162 00:10:51,200 --> 00:10:54,960 Speaker 1: Berlin just flagged this and they said there are big 163 00:10:55,000 --> 00:10:58,160 Speaker 1: packs of wolves that are coming out of Lithuania and 164 00:10:58,320 --> 00:11:01,960 Speaker 1: other parts of Europe, other parts of rural Europe, into 165 00:11:02,000 --> 00:11:06,440 Speaker 1: the inner area of the German Empire, the interior. And 166 00:11:06,440 --> 00:11:09,080 Speaker 1: they're not too far from the front lines. They've been 167 00:11:09,120 --> 00:11:11,880 Speaker 1: driven from their homes. They're just looking for something to 168 00:11:11,920 --> 00:11:19,959 Speaker 1: eat before they start hunting people. They go through everything else, livestock, sheep, scoots, cattle, 169 00:11:20,640 --> 00:11:31,320 Speaker 1: possibly children in a couple of cases. So let's let's 170 00:11:31,320 --> 00:11:35,199 Speaker 1: backtrack just a little bit um again. Winter nineteen sixteen, 171 00:11:35,320 --> 00:11:39,840 Speaker 1: nineteen seventeen. We're in Lithuania and Belarus um in the 172 00:11:40,360 --> 00:11:44,960 Speaker 1: cove No no no Vilna Minsk district, which would today be 173 00:11:45,080 --> 00:11:51,280 Speaker 1: considered vill Vilnius, Lithuania. We've got these starving wolves starting 174 00:11:51,320 --> 00:11:55,760 Speaker 1: to attack German and Russian troops. At first, we see 175 00:11:56,800 --> 00:12:00,800 Speaker 1: them attacking kind of stragglers, um. But again I mentioned earlier, 176 00:12:00,840 --> 00:12:04,600 Speaker 1: they get a little bit more, you know, tough and bold, 177 00:12:04,679 --> 00:12:09,199 Speaker 1: and they start to attack groups. Um. We have reports 178 00:12:09,240 --> 00:12:11,680 Speaker 1: coming out of St Petersburg. Like he said, the media 179 00:12:11,840 --> 00:12:15,640 Speaker 1: was aware of this, that the wolves were becoming so 180 00:12:15,840 --> 00:12:19,720 Speaker 1: hard to deal with on the battlefield that they were 181 00:12:19,800 --> 00:12:22,880 Speaker 1: actually one of the few things that could cause cooperation 182 00:12:23,400 --> 00:12:26,480 Speaker 1: between the two sides, between the Germans and the Russians. 183 00:12:27,160 --> 00:12:30,319 Speaker 1: This report out of St. Petersburg had this to say, 184 00:12:30,640 --> 00:12:33,680 Speaker 1: parties of Russian and German scouts met recently and were 185 00:12:33,720 --> 00:12:36,520 Speaker 1: hotly engaged in the skirmish when a large pack of 186 00:12:36,559 --> 00:12:40,320 Speaker 1: wolves dashed on the scene and attacked the wounded um 187 00:12:40,360 --> 00:12:43,760 Speaker 1: and presumably, you know, anyone that was trying to stand 188 00:12:43,760 --> 00:12:47,520 Speaker 1: in their way. And that dispatch from the battlefield was 189 00:12:47,559 --> 00:12:49,960 Speaker 1: reprinted in the Oklahoma City Times and it goes on 190 00:12:50,280 --> 00:12:53,679 Speaker 1: hostilities were at once suspended in Germans and Russians instinctively 191 00:12:53,720 --> 00:12:57,800 Speaker 1: attacked the pack, killing about fifty wolves. So there was 192 00:12:57,880 --> 00:13:01,800 Speaker 1: kind of almost this like unspoken bond established between these 193 00:13:01,960 --> 00:13:06,560 Speaker 1: enemies where they understood that if there was a wolf attack, 194 00:13:06,920 --> 00:13:08,920 Speaker 1: it was like that scene in Waynesborold where I was 195 00:13:09,000 --> 00:13:11,600 Speaker 1: like car and then you kind of, you know, deal 196 00:13:11,640 --> 00:13:14,240 Speaker 1: with that and then game on. So yeah, it became 197 00:13:14,320 --> 00:13:19,120 Speaker 1: this kind of rallying moment for just a moment, just 198 00:13:19,200 --> 00:13:22,760 Speaker 1: a brief moment there's just these exact circumstances. The Russians 199 00:13:22,760 --> 00:13:25,400 Speaker 1: and the Germans had to work together once the wolf 200 00:13:25,440 --> 00:13:27,360 Speaker 1: threat was dealt with and it was back to shooting 201 00:13:27,360 --> 00:13:29,600 Speaker 1: at each other. Yeah, kind of like the Christmas Truce. 202 00:13:29,920 --> 00:13:32,840 Speaker 1: It's like a more metal version of the Christmas Truce 203 00:13:33,040 --> 00:13:38,360 Speaker 1: where military stopped and then when and celebrated the holiday 204 00:13:38,400 --> 00:13:41,199 Speaker 1: of Christmas and then went back to their trenches and 205 00:13:41,240 --> 00:13:44,800 Speaker 1: continued fighting each other. Uh. There, there's a really important 206 00:13:44,800 --> 00:13:47,760 Speaker 1: part here. So we've we've made it clear that at 207 00:13:47,840 --> 00:13:52,200 Speaker 1: least once this happened, but it doesn't end there. This 208 00:13:52,320 --> 00:13:56,440 Speaker 1: probably happened multiple times. It wasn't a single pack of 209 00:13:56,480 --> 00:14:01,520 Speaker 1: wolves in a single incident. Were a lot of wolves 210 00:14:01,559 --> 00:14:06,200 Speaker 1: in those days, and throughout the forests of Lithuania, in 211 00:14:06,240 --> 00:14:10,240 Speaker 1: the areas that would now be Poland and Belarus. These 212 00:14:10,559 --> 00:14:14,880 Speaker 1: incidents occurred repeatedly, and there would be German and Russian 213 00:14:14,880 --> 00:14:18,679 Speaker 1: forces who are just otherwise mowing each other down with 214 00:14:18,800 --> 00:14:22,960 Speaker 1: machine guns, who would just stop and say, oh wait, 215 00:14:23,000 --> 00:14:26,800 Speaker 1: we got wolves pulled up, guys, we got wolves. Wolf break. 216 00:14:27,320 --> 00:14:29,400 Speaker 1: I like that's a wolf break. I like that word. 217 00:14:29,960 --> 00:14:35,560 Speaker 1: So the you mentioned the snipers, So the snipers, we're 218 00:14:35,680 --> 00:14:40,320 Speaker 1: very powerful aspects of this war, and they would be 219 00:14:40,360 --> 00:14:44,440 Speaker 1: able to see when the regular infantry stopped attacking each other, 220 00:14:45,000 --> 00:14:48,800 Speaker 1: and then they would take a break, and everybody would 221 00:14:48,840 --> 00:14:53,160 Speaker 1: try to fight the wolves because the wolves kept coming. 222 00:14:53,840 --> 00:14:57,480 Speaker 1: And wolves, Russian wolves, they're big. This is like some 223 00:14:57,600 --> 00:15:00,160 Speaker 1: seriously Lord of the Rings kind of business, right, I'm 224 00:15:00,160 --> 00:15:04,040 Speaker 1: just picturing these magical dire wolves just bounding through the 225 00:15:04,080 --> 00:15:07,520 Speaker 1: field of battle and just unstoppable foes, you know, coming 226 00:15:07,560 --> 00:15:10,720 Speaker 1: at these soldiers. Yeah, and I feel so bad for 227 00:15:10,760 --> 00:15:15,440 Speaker 1: the wolves because again, yeah, they were forced in the situation. 228 00:15:15,760 --> 00:15:18,640 Speaker 1: Nobody asked them what they thought of the Ottoman Empire 229 00:15:18,760 --> 00:15:22,520 Speaker 1: or Austro Hungarian Empire. They were just one day they 230 00:15:22,560 --> 00:15:25,360 Speaker 1: were dear and then there worked and there were monsters 231 00:15:25,400 --> 00:15:29,280 Speaker 1: of foot and everything smelled terrible. Uh. And these wolves, 232 00:15:30,040 --> 00:15:33,680 Speaker 1: you know, their entire population is moving, it's getting hunted. 233 00:15:33,960 --> 00:15:40,520 Speaker 1: They're attacking out of desperation, and as they become increasingly starved, 234 00:15:41,120 --> 00:15:45,040 Speaker 1: they become increasingly bold and they start you know, you 235 00:15:45,040 --> 00:15:47,760 Speaker 1: said they were picking off soldiers one by one, Right, 236 00:15:47,920 --> 00:15:51,080 Speaker 1: somebody wanders away from the crew, maybe to take a 237 00:15:51,120 --> 00:15:55,840 Speaker 1: pea break, and then boom, they get got this. Now 238 00:15:55,960 --> 00:15:58,640 Speaker 1: they are let's it's not a wolf makes when it 239 00:15:58,680 --> 00:16:02,880 Speaker 1: gets you. Now, if his soldier is not fast enough, 240 00:16:04,320 --> 00:16:08,520 Speaker 1: he is down there was. Military dot Com wrote it saying, 241 00:16:09,320 --> 00:16:12,200 Speaker 1: if a soldier isn't fast enough with his weapon, he 242 00:16:12,280 --> 00:16:15,000 Speaker 1: might have a close encounter of the K nine kind, 243 00:16:15,440 --> 00:16:19,920 Speaker 1: which is really fun to say, but uh, but yeah, 244 00:16:20,000 --> 00:16:22,520 Speaker 1: this was a constant threat. It really was. It really 245 00:16:22,560 --> 00:16:27,080 Speaker 1: was a constant threat. Um because you know, wolves are 246 00:16:27,200 --> 00:16:31,480 Speaker 1: very very nimble, and if they are starving, are going 247 00:16:31,520 --> 00:16:34,880 Speaker 1: to become more and more aggressive and desperate and take 248 00:16:34,960 --> 00:16:37,320 Speaker 1: serious risks. Or they don't even see it that way, 249 00:16:37,360 --> 00:16:39,200 Speaker 1: perhaps because again they don't really know what a gun 250 00:16:39,360 --> 00:16:42,760 Speaker 1: is quite but they do find out that many, many wolves, 251 00:16:42,920 --> 00:16:47,120 Speaker 1: the lives of many a wolf were lost in this conflict, alongside, 252 00:16:47,200 --> 00:16:49,640 Speaker 1: you know, the humans that they were trying to munch on. 253 00:16:50,120 --> 00:16:52,160 Speaker 1: But you're right, then it is really sad because of 254 00:16:52,240 --> 00:16:55,440 Speaker 1: all of the casualties of this war. Uh, they probably 255 00:16:55,480 --> 00:16:58,880 Speaker 1: were the ones that were at least complicit, but yeah, yeah, 256 00:16:58,960 --> 00:17:01,000 Speaker 1: slot of civilian casual too. I mean, I don't know, 257 00:17:01,320 --> 00:17:03,400 Speaker 1: it's just the whole thing more as hell, and it 258 00:17:03,440 --> 00:17:06,840 Speaker 1: never changes. There were other methods for dealing with these wolves. 259 00:17:07,080 --> 00:17:10,440 Speaker 1: The Russians and Germans did you know, kind of collaborate 260 00:17:10,520 --> 00:17:14,879 Speaker 1: on some of these as well, including laying traps for them, 261 00:17:14,920 --> 00:17:19,639 Speaker 1: poisoning some of the food they were trying to to eat, actually, 262 00:17:19,640 --> 00:17:23,000 Speaker 1: like booby trapping the perimeters. But it just wasn't enough 263 00:17:23,080 --> 00:17:25,440 Speaker 1: because there were so many of them. These forests were 264 00:17:25,480 --> 00:17:31,640 Speaker 1: just teeming with wolves. Gradually the wolves were collected, rounded up, 265 00:17:32,359 --> 00:17:35,840 Speaker 1: and eventually several hundred of them were killed on mass. 266 00:17:36,280 --> 00:17:38,560 Speaker 1: The others kind of getting the picture at this point, 267 00:17:38,840 --> 00:17:41,960 Speaker 1: started to to take off, you know, for greener pastures 268 00:17:42,040 --> 00:17:46,560 Speaker 1: or at least less you know, aggressively deadly ones. And 269 00:17:46,720 --> 00:17:48,879 Speaker 1: I imagine this this would have been a cause for 270 00:17:49,040 --> 00:17:51,400 Speaker 1: what could be tracked as a great migration of these 271 00:17:51,440 --> 00:17:54,439 Speaker 1: types of the species. Yeah, I think that's a good point. Now, 272 00:17:54,600 --> 00:17:57,359 Speaker 1: if you've heard this story before, or if you've seen 273 00:17:57,440 --> 00:18:01,000 Speaker 1: works of fiction based on something like this, a lot 274 00:18:01,000 --> 00:18:03,760 Speaker 1: of the inspiration is going to come from New York 275 00:18:03,800 --> 00:18:07,720 Speaker 1: Times article that ran in July. We just want to 276 00:18:07,800 --> 00:18:11,400 Speaker 1: cite that. Uh, we're pulling a lot of information from there, 277 00:18:11,520 --> 00:18:13,560 Speaker 1: and some of the other sources we found are also 278 00:18:13,600 --> 00:18:16,080 Speaker 1: pulled a lot of information from that article, which you 279 00:18:16,119 --> 00:18:20,320 Speaker 1: can view on New York Times right now. If the 280 00:18:20,359 --> 00:18:24,959 Speaker 1: spirit so moved you so still, it's a war, like 281 00:18:25,000 --> 00:18:28,560 Speaker 1: you said, car Pause, game on, And that's what happens. 282 00:18:29,200 --> 00:18:32,880 Speaker 1: The soldiers do manage to kill a lot of wolves 283 00:18:33,080 --> 00:18:36,239 Speaker 1: and they scatter the rest so they you could think 284 00:18:36,280 --> 00:18:39,280 Speaker 1: of it this way, they break the wolf army. If 285 00:18:39,280 --> 00:18:42,320 Speaker 1: you want to go, uh, Lord of the Rings, you know, 286 00:18:42,520 --> 00:18:44,560 Speaker 1: Battle of the Five Armies with the Hobbits. They break 287 00:18:44,560 --> 00:18:46,919 Speaker 1: the wolf army, and now the wolves are out of 288 00:18:46,920 --> 00:18:54,120 Speaker 1: the picture, so they start fighting again. The truce was temporary, 289 00:18:54,280 --> 00:18:59,719 Speaker 1: and there's a really sad moment cited in war history 290 00:19:00,119 --> 00:19:04,840 Speaker 1: line from the memoirs of a nurse named Natalia Linka. 291 00:19:05,040 --> 00:19:09,760 Speaker 1: She wrote a book called the First World War, and 292 00:19:09,840 --> 00:19:14,880 Speaker 1: she talks about meeting wolves who sound like defeated survivors. 293 00:19:14,920 --> 00:19:18,320 Speaker 1: She says, on January four, eighteen, she was at a 294 00:19:18,359 --> 00:19:23,320 Speaker 1: fourth stop at a fortress called Hassan Kale in Turkey, Um. 295 00:19:23,480 --> 00:19:26,840 Speaker 1: There were ten people in this truck and then a 296 00:19:26,920 --> 00:19:30,560 Speaker 1: howl cut through the silence of the night. It became terrible, 297 00:19:30,640 --> 00:19:33,040 Speaker 1: but we pulled the cover off the entrance and looked 298 00:19:33,040 --> 00:19:37,199 Speaker 1: out not far from us on white snow. Slowly a 299 00:19:37,320 --> 00:19:40,840 Speaker 1: small pack of wolves passed, moving in lines, one after 300 00:19:40,920 --> 00:19:45,239 Speaker 1: the other. They approached us, sometimes stopped and lifting their 301 00:19:45,280 --> 00:19:49,760 Speaker 1: muscles up, howled softly and sadly. I don't have a 302 00:19:49,800 --> 00:19:51,800 Speaker 1: lot of feelings, to be honest, but this one got 303 00:19:51,840 --> 00:20:01,120 Speaker 1: me softly, just just just a plaintiff melancholy. Oh, they 304 00:20:01,160 --> 00:20:05,800 Speaker 1: didn't attack, they didn't attack, they were they laid their 305 00:20:05,920 --> 00:20:08,560 Speaker 1: arms down or their paws they leave their paws down. 306 00:20:09,600 --> 00:20:12,800 Speaker 1: And no, this one's getting me. Yeah, I know, I know, 307 00:20:12,880 --> 00:20:14,840 Speaker 1: I'm feeling that, you guys, I'm not joking. It's kind 308 00:20:14,840 --> 00:20:16,480 Speaker 1: of welling up a little bit, I know. Yeah, as 309 00:20:16,480 --> 00:20:22,679 Speaker 1: someone who has way too much emotions, this one's getting me. 310 00:20:23,920 --> 00:20:25,560 Speaker 1: You know. This reminds me of in a lot of 311 00:20:25,560 --> 00:20:29,720 Speaker 1: ways the the me is the beautiful Miyazaki film Princess Mononoke, 312 00:20:30,240 --> 00:20:34,160 Speaker 1: where like, you know, nature literally kind of rises up 313 00:20:34,200 --> 00:20:39,880 Speaker 1: against these essentially machines of war or these kind of corruptions, 314 00:20:40,000 --> 00:20:42,439 Speaker 1: right you know, well, and of course guns there there 315 00:20:42,440 --> 00:20:44,880 Speaker 1: are soldiers you know in that in that film as well. 316 00:20:45,200 --> 00:20:47,560 Speaker 1: Uh So it is kind of like man versus nature. 317 00:20:47,880 --> 00:20:50,720 Speaker 1: That that is what this is. This really is kind 318 00:20:50,720 --> 00:20:54,359 Speaker 1: of a very close analog to what happens in that film, uh, 319 00:20:54,400 --> 00:20:57,160 Speaker 1: with much less mystical properties and not not a happy 320 00:20:57,280 --> 00:20:59,680 Speaker 1: ending and a lot of bad stuff happens in Manonoke 321 00:20:59,880 --> 00:21:01,679 Speaker 1: is Oh, but it ultimately does, you know, have a 322 00:21:01,680 --> 00:21:06,439 Speaker 1: happy ending. Real life doesn't often have one of those, doesn't. Yeah, yeah, 323 00:21:06,600 --> 00:21:09,160 Speaker 1: real life just sort of goes and then it stops. 324 00:21:09,720 --> 00:21:13,720 Speaker 1: So so wow, maybe the weather has affected us today. 325 00:21:13,760 --> 00:21:17,119 Speaker 1: Two guys, it's it's a dreary morning here in Atlanta. 326 00:21:17,840 --> 00:21:23,400 Speaker 1: But we started this by asking whether this really happened, 327 00:21:24,080 --> 00:21:28,640 Speaker 1: and at this point we see an alternative narrative come 328 00:21:28,800 --> 00:21:32,480 Speaker 1: into play. It starts weirdly enough with a video game 329 00:21:33,000 --> 00:21:36,720 Speaker 1: first person shooter that I've never played, called Tannenberg. It's 330 00:21:36,760 --> 00:21:39,560 Speaker 1: set in World War One. It's inspired by the Battle 331 00:21:39,600 --> 00:21:44,000 Speaker 1: of Tannenberg, and they created a thing in the game 332 00:21:44,160 --> 00:21:47,960 Speaker 1: called Wolf Truce. All of a sudden, the game mode 333 00:21:48,000 --> 00:21:51,880 Speaker 1: turns into you fighting wolves instead of soldiers. And they 334 00:21:51,920 --> 00:21:55,480 Speaker 1: based this on that New York Times article we cited earlier. 335 00:21:56,520 --> 00:21:59,560 Speaker 1: But the thing about that Times article is not a 336 00:21:59,600 --> 00:22:04,240 Speaker 1: ton of people actually checked the sources quoted by the paper, 337 00:22:04,760 --> 00:22:09,240 Speaker 1: which is why folks like Russian hunting scientists Sergey matt 338 00:22:09,359 --> 00:22:13,880 Speaker 1: Vitchel said that there were no Russian sources for this information, 339 00:22:14,960 --> 00:22:21,680 Speaker 1: and people started wondering whether it was a tall tale. Yeah, 340 00:22:21,720 --> 00:22:25,200 Speaker 1: that's right. And in Russia. Um, you know, when folks 341 00:22:25,240 --> 00:22:28,920 Speaker 1: were looking through their sources about this Eastern campaign, there 342 00:22:28,920 --> 00:22:33,639 Speaker 1: aren't any mentions of any wolf truce. I mean, to 343 00:22:33,720 --> 00:22:35,480 Speaker 1: be fair, it wasn't like there was like it was 344 00:22:35,560 --> 00:22:38,480 Speaker 1: like the Great Wolf Truce, like it was some singular 345 00:22:38,680 --> 00:22:42,080 Speaker 1: thing that happened. It was more of a functional series 346 00:22:42,160 --> 00:22:45,199 Speaker 1: of micro truces that that that that that had to 347 00:22:45,240 --> 00:22:49,760 Speaker 1: happen to functionally allow both sides to fight another day. 348 00:22:49,800 --> 00:22:51,520 Speaker 1: But it is a little bit of a tall order. 349 00:22:52,560 --> 00:22:54,080 Speaker 1: It's the kind of thing that sort of gives you 350 00:22:54,200 --> 00:22:57,639 Speaker 1: hope for mankind or you know, the the idea of 351 00:22:57,680 --> 00:22:59,200 Speaker 1: sort of like why can't we all just get along 352 00:22:59,240 --> 00:23:01,399 Speaker 1: and rally to get there, especially if there's a common 353 00:23:01,440 --> 00:23:05,719 Speaker 1: threat um which we've all agreed is ultimately the victim 354 00:23:05,760 --> 00:23:09,080 Speaker 1: in this story, that that threat. But it is it 355 00:23:09,160 --> 00:23:11,480 Speaker 1: is a lot. It's a lot, yeah, exactly, It's a 356 00:23:11,480 --> 00:23:16,119 Speaker 1: lot to expect um in this situation because honestly, you know, 357 00:23:16,280 --> 00:23:18,239 Speaker 1: what you and I was thinking all along is that 358 00:23:18,320 --> 00:23:20,880 Speaker 1: one side or the other would use it to their advantage. 359 00:23:21,600 --> 00:23:23,879 Speaker 1: You know what I mean, Like snipers would use it, 360 00:23:23,880 --> 00:23:26,400 Speaker 1: would use it and they wouldn't be picking off the wolves, 361 00:23:26,640 --> 00:23:29,679 Speaker 1: they'd be picking off all the troops that were distracted 362 00:23:29,720 --> 00:23:31,879 Speaker 1: by the wolves, you know, and it would just be 363 00:23:32,080 --> 00:23:34,880 Speaker 1: kind of bedlam. We we do know for a fact 364 00:23:34,960 --> 00:23:38,200 Speaker 1: that this wolf infestation was a real thing, though right well, 365 00:23:38,320 --> 00:23:43,520 Speaker 1: we know that not everybody agrees there. I think most 366 00:23:43,600 --> 00:23:48,720 Speaker 1: people will argue that it that it did happen. They're 367 00:23:48,720 --> 00:23:51,879 Speaker 1: just question maybe the extent of it. It's it's true 368 00:23:52,119 --> 00:23:55,000 Speaker 1: obviously that wolves were eating dead bodies. It's true that 369 00:23:55,040 --> 00:23:59,679 Speaker 1: they were driven from their natural environment. So it seems 370 00:23:59,680 --> 00:24:04,960 Speaker 1: to me completely possible, even plausible really, that there may 371 00:24:04,960 --> 00:24:08,840 Speaker 1: have been multiple instances where soldiers stopped firing at each 372 00:24:08,840 --> 00:24:11,520 Speaker 1: other long enough to get rid of wolves. But that 373 00:24:11,640 --> 00:24:15,040 Speaker 1: harrowing Lord of the Rings Game of Thrones type scene 374 00:24:15,080 --> 00:24:19,960 Speaker 1: with this the endless onslaught of of of wolves from 375 00:24:20,000 --> 00:24:22,560 Speaker 1: the from the tree line, that could be a little 376 00:24:22,560 --> 00:24:25,080 Speaker 1: bit of a fantasy, couldn't Yeah, I would totally write 377 00:24:25,080 --> 00:24:28,880 Speaker 1: it for ridiculous history. Studios would be cinematic. We'd need 378 00:24:28,920 --> 00:24:31,760 Speaker 1: to add some stuff though, we'd need to have some protagonists. 379 00:24:31,800 --> 00:24:33,959 Speaker 1: You know what, Let's do it from the wolves perspective. 380 00:24:34,440 --> 00:24:36,840 Speaker 1: That's what we do. I like it yeah, I like it. 381 00:24:43,720 --> 00:24:47,240 Speaker 1: So this one is uh, you know, a bit emotional 382 00:24:47,400 --> 00:24:50,479 Speaker 1: for the three of us. We're officially teen Wolf, not 383 00:24:50,600 --> 00:24:55,800 Speaker 1: teen Wolf, but and uh, I I don't know. I 384 00:24:55,840 --> 00:25:01,040 Speaker 1: still think it's it's an amazing story because I'm stuck 385 00:25:01,040 --> 00:25:04,439 Speaker 1: on it, Nolan, stuck on the idea of framing this 386 00:25:04,560 --> 00:25:07,959 Speaker 1: from the perspective of the wolves. They were, they were 387 00:25:08,000 --> 00:25:11,040 Speaker 1: like their own conscript army. You know, they didn't volunteer 388 00:25:11,119 --> 00:25:14,200 Speaker 1: for this, They had to do it. Um makes you think. 389 00:25:14,480 --> 00:25:16,639 Speaker 1: And if we've learned anything, you know, on stuff that 390 00:25:16,640 --> 00:25:19,440 Speaker 1: I want you to know and researching, you know, junk 391 00:25:19,480 --> 00:25:23,240 Speaker 1: food and just weird marketing behind food, is that you 392 00:25:23,320 --> 00:25:26,680 Speaker 1: gotta eat. You gotta eat. Wolves gotta do what a 393 00:25:26,720 --> 00:25:30,480 Speaker 1: wolve's gotta do. Wolves gotta have a code. That code 394 00:25:30,520 --> 00:25:33,479 Speaker 1: is we want to eat. So we are going to 395 00:25:33,600 --> 00:25:36,800 Speaker 1: call it a day. We hope you enjoyed today's episode. 396 00:25:37,000 --> 00:25:40,240 Speaker 1: Thanks as always to our super producer, the Man, the Myth, 397 00:25:40,440 --> 00:25:44,960 Speaker 1: the wolf like Legend, Max Williams. Thanks of course, as 398 00:25:45,040 --> 00:25:49,720 Speaker 1: always to Gabe Lousier, Thanks to Christopher Hasiotis, Thanks to 399 00:25:50,200 --> 00:25:54,600 Speaker 1: who Alex Williams who composed this banging track. Jonathan Strickland, 400 00:25:54,640 --> 00:26:06,200 Speaker 1: the Quister. Eventually, eventually, if I spoke his name, it 401 00:26:06,320 --> 00:26:15,000 Speaker 1: was his You know how I knew it was time. 402 00:26:16,000 --> 00:26:18,479 Speaker 1: I saw a teen wolf with a Chinese menu in 403 00:26:18,520 --> 00:26:22,720 Speaker 1: his hand walking through the streets of the race. Was 404 00:26:22,760 --> 00:26:28,840 Speaker 1: his hair perfect? He was? He was and playing basketball? 405 00:26:28,920 --> 00:26:31,520 Speaker 1: Because you know, teen Wolf? Great movie. I'm glad you 406 00:26:31,560 --> 00:26:34,760 Speaker 1: guys talked about teen Wolf. Finally all those emails I've 407 00:26:34,760 --> 00:26:36,960 Speaker 1: been sending into the show saying when are you going 408 00:26:37,000 --> 00:26:39,240 Speaker 1: to talk about teen Wolf? I know it's not really 409 00:26:39,280 --> 00:26:41,879 Speaker 1: your purview, but I feel that this is something that 410 00:26:41,960 --> 00:26:44,760 Speaker 1: needs to be addressed, and now I understand you finally 411 00:26:44,800 --> 00:26:47,879 Speaker 1: done it. Sorry, I've missed all the emotional payoff of 412 00:26:47,960 --> 00:26:51,119 Speaker 1: the talking about the climax of teen Wolf and and 413 00:26:51,160 --> 00:26:54,080 Speaker 1: really the thro of Michael J. Fox. But I'm glad 414 00:26:54,119 --> 00:26:56,239 Speaker 1: I'm here at the end. I don't bury the lead here. 415 00:26:56,280 --> 00:27:01,600 Speaker 1: Don't don't forget about teen Wolf. Also, yeah to Bot 416 00:27:02,000 --> 00:27:07,560 Speaker 1: Jason Bateman, Jason batemand for a long time, what about 417 00:27:07,880 --> 00:27:11,159 Speaker 1: what about the teen Wolf reboot? Well? You know what? 418 00:27:11,560 --> 00:27:18,840 Speaker 1: More more importantly, Jonathan, Happy New Year? I in February. Alright, 419 00:27:18,880 --> 00:27:21,000 Speaker 1: Happy New Year? Do you tell you this? I don't 420 00:27:21,000 --> 00:27:23,240 Speaker 1: know what the Statute of limitations. This is the first 421 00:27:23,280 --> 00:27:25,600 Speaker 1: time you've been on the show in two If you 422 00:27:25,680 --> 00:27:28,480 Speaker 1: came on in October, I would also say Happy New Year. 423 00:27:28,840 --> 00:27:31,040 Speaker 1: I am so glad you brought up the fact that 424 00:27:31,080 --> 00:27:33,440 Speaker 1: it has been a very long time since I've been 425 00:27:33,440 --> 00:27:39,879 Speaker 1: on the show. As such, I have decided to punish you. Okay, 426 00:27:40,080 --> 00:27:43,480 Speaker 1: what else is new? It's just like it's been too long, 427 00:27:43,600 --> 00:27:46,840 Speaker 1: so you I'm sorry you did this to yourselves. But 428 00:27:47,240 --> 00:27:49,399 Speaker 1: for those who do not know, you have entered into 429 00:27:49,680 --> 00:27:52,919 Speaker 1: the most cringe weathery segment in all of podcasting. What 430 00:27:52,960 --> 00:27:56,320 Speaker 1: are I the quiz to well then present to uh 431 00:27:56,800 --> 00:28:02,840 Speaker 1: fair hosts some scenarios and some of them are true 432 00:28:02,960 --> 00:28:04,520 Speaker 1: and some of them are made up. In this case, 433 00:28:04,560 --> 00:28:06,560 Speaker 1: one is made up. They have to determine which of 434 00:28:06,600 --> 00:28:14,680 Speaker 1: the four told you you're getting You kept me off 435 00:28:14,720 --> 00:28:16,879 Speaker 1: the show for fall too long? Okay, first of all, 436 00:28:17,400 --> 00:28:20,600 Speaker 1: there's no keeping you off the show. You are like 437 00:28:20,600 --> 00:28:23,520 Speaker 1: like like the wind. You know, You're you're like like 438 00:28:23,640 --> 00:28:25,959 Speaker 1: nuclear fall out. You know, you just kind of drift 439 00:28:26,200 --> 00:28:28,520 Speaker 1: wherever you want to go. You're like the center and 440 00:28:28,720 --> 00:28:32,080 Speaker 1: no wins. I make things weird. That's a crazy ex 441 00:28:32,160 --> 00:28:35,679 Speaker 1: girlfriend reference. You're like you're like a wolf in World 442 00:28:35,680 --> 00:28:38,480 Speaker 1: War One. Man, you're just roaming. It's not your fault. 443 00:28:38,480 --> 00:28:41,280 Speaker 1: Pleasure rider is crazy. We have to save up to 444 00:28:41,360 --> 00:28:45,280 Speaker 1: get you on the show. Now, listen, these these these 445 00:28:45,320 --> 00:28:48,040 Speaker 1: brownie bites, they don't pay for themselves. All right, I 446 00:28:48,120 --> 00:28:51,480 Speaker 1: gotta be rolling in brownie bites. That's just how I go. 447 00:28:51,960 --> 00:28:54,520 Speaker 1: All right. So here here's there are the rules. I 448 00:28:54,560 --> 00:28:57,880 Speaker 1: would be three, three are real, one real, one is fake. 449 00:28:58,240 --> 00:29:00,480 Speaker 1: Three are real, one is fake. You must you must 450 00:29:00,520 --> 00:29:03,880 Speaker 1: suss out the fake one, and I will present to 451 00:29:03,880 --> 00:29:06,640 Speaker 1: you the four scenarios. They're long, so this is gonna 452 00:29:06,680 --> 00:29:10,600 Speaker 1: be a nice long segment. You're welcome, audience and um. 453 00:29:10,800 --> 00:29:13,680 Speaker 1: And then after I give you the four scenarios, you 454 00:29:13,760 --> 00:29:15,959 Speaker 1: have three minutes to debate between the two of you 455 00:29:16,040 --> 00:29:18,880 Speaker 1: which of the four is the fake one. If you 456 00:29:18,920 --> 00:29:22,320 Speaker 1: wish to ask me any questions, then you must preface 457 00:29:22,360 --> 00:29:24,960 Speaker 1: it with a phrase of my choosing. In this case, 458 00:29:25,000 --> 00:29:28,360 Speaker 1: it shall be I'm not throwing away my shot. Because 459 00:29:28,400 --> 00:29:31,680 Speaker 1: we are going to talk about dueling and the reason, 460 00:29:31,760 --> 00:29:34,400 Speaker 1: the real reason why there are four scenarios not three. 461 00:29:35,120 --> 00:29:41,040 Speaker 1: It's because y'all people have engaged in duels for stupid, 462 00:29:41,200 --> 00:29:44,320 Speaker 1: stupid reasons, and it was hard to narrow down which 463 00:29:44,320 --> 00:29:48,000 Speaker 1: ones I was going to use. But I shall now start, 464 00:29:48,200 --> 00:29:50,200 Speaker 1: and once I am done, you will start the timer 465 00:29:50,240 --> 00:29:53,600 Speaker 1: for three minutes as enormous trucks go passed by house, 466 00:29:54,080 --> 00:29:58,000 Speaker 1: and you will then have to give to me the 467 00:29:58,000 --> 00:30:00,360 Speaker 1: the fake out of the four. All right, here we go. 468 00:30:01,480 --> 00:30:08,160 Speaker 1: Scenario one. Gomez Suarez de Figuero I Cordoba, a gay, 469 00:30:08,200 --> 00:30:11,920 Speaker 1: the first Duke of Feria, was Spain's ambassador to the 470 00:30:12,000 --> 00:30:15,000 Speaker 1: court of Queen Elizabeth the First. He left that position 471 00:30:15,040 --> 00:30:18,560 Speaker 1: in fifteen fifty nine, and shortly after arriving back in Spain, 472 00:30:19,040 --> 00:30:24,080 Speaker 1: challenged Alvaro de la Quadra, another nobleman, a bishop in fact, 473 00:30:24,280 --> 00:30:27,840 Speaker 1: to a duel and the reason. Gomez had taken offense 474 00:30:27,920 --> 00:30:32,280 Speaker 1: to de la Quadra's pronunciation of liturgical Latin, claiming the 475 00:30:32,320 --> 00:30:35,360 Speaker 1: bishop was butchering the language, so naturally the two were 476 00:30:35,440 --> 00:30:39,200 Speaker 1: unable to resolve their differing opinions and pronunciation and settled 477 00:30:39,280 --> 00:30:43,400 Speaker 1: to duel with swords. Both received injuries but survived the encounter, 478 00:30:43,520 --> 00:30:48,720 Speaker 1: considering the matter settled. Scenario two. In eighteen sixteen, a 479 00:30:48,800 --> 00:30:51,960 Speaker 1: French admiral named de la Sous took offense to the 480 00:30:51,960 --> 00:30:57,120 Speaker 1: way a Prussian danced, saying he was quote waltzing against 481 00:30:57,280 --> 00:31:00,760 Speaker 1: him end quote, and so De la sous infronted the 482 00:31:00,800 --> 00:31:03,560 Speaker 1: Prussian and the two agreed to sort out their disagreement 483 00:31:03,600 --> 00:31:07,280 Speaker 1: in cutting a rug the old fashioned way pistols. At dawn, 484 00:31:07,640 --> 00:31:11,360 Speaker 1: the two faced off and the Prussian fired first, but missed. 485 00:31:11,720 --> 00:31:14,160 Speaker 1: De la Seus's aim was better, and he hit the 486 00:31:14,200 --> 00:31:17,480 Speaker 1: Prussian squarely in the chest, and yet the man fell 487 00:31:17,560 --> 00:31:20,600 Speaker 1: but was otherwise unharmed. De la SEUs then discovered that 488 00:31:20,640 --> 00:31:23,240 Speaker 1: the Prussian had been wearing a breastplate and resorted to 489 00:31:23,400 --> 00:31:27,760 Speaker 1: kicking him repeatedly LEO three to death. I'm sorry, I'm 490 00:31:27,760 --> 00:31:31,480 Speaker 1: not going away my shot. Well, no, we haven't gone 491 00:31:31,480 --> 00:31:34,360 Speaker 1: through all the scenarios yet, but no, just just just kicking. 492 00:31:34,800 --> 00:31:37,040 Speaker 1: Just spen a minute. Yeah it has been a while. No, 493 00:31:37,160 --> 00:31:43,040 Speaker 1: it's you know, fair game scenario three eight nine two Liechtenstein, 494 00:31:43,520 --> 00:31:48,240 Speaker 1: the Russian Countess Kielman Seg and the Viennese Princess Pauline 495 00:31:48,280 --> 00:31:53,920 Speaker 1: Metternich were hard at work arranging flowers at the Vienna Exhibition. Unfortunately, 496 00:31:53,960 --> 00:31:56,440 Speaker 1: the two simply could not agree on how flowers should 497 00:31:56,440 --> 00:32:00,600 Speaker 1: be arranged, and the disagreement scaled escalated rather to a duel, 498 00:32:00,680 --> 00:32:03,600 Speaker 1: which was arranged. They decided that they would fight with 499 00:32:03,720 --> 00:32:07,040 Speaker 1: rapiers and whomever bled first would lose. They had women 500 00:32:07,080 --> 00:32:09,960 Speaker 1: as seconds as well as a woman as metic, making 501 00:32:09,960 --> 00:32:14,280 Speaker 1: this an all female affair. Oh they also fought topless 502 00:32:14,800 --> 00:32:18,360 Speaker 1: woho and both received wounds, the princess on the nose 503 00:32:18,440 --> 00:32:21,240 Speaker 1: the countess on the arm, at which point they kissed 504 00:32:21,280 --> 00:32:26,760 Speaker 1: and made up and finally scenario four. In nineteen seventy, 505 00:32:26,840 --> 00:32:31,120 Speaker 1: a stage director in Copenhagen named Togo Esben was insulted 506 00:32:31,200 --> 00:32:34,240 Speaker 1: to discover that the theater program for a production failed 507 00:32:34,240 --> 00:32:36,880 Speaker 1: to include his name in it. He then challenged the 508 00:32:36,920 --> 00:32:40,959 Speaker 1: stage company's press secretary, hennig did Live, to a duel. 509 00:32:41,360 --> 00:32:44,920 Speaker 1: They chose flintlock pistols. During the duel, only one pistol 510 00:32:44,960 --> 00:32:47,640 Speaker 1: managed to fire, and that one missed the target. The 511 00:32:47,680 --> 00:32:51,640 Speaker 1: two men, apparently satisfied that the matter had been dealt with, 512 00:32:52,040 --> 00:32:56,280 Speaker 1: retired to drink champagne and add Esben's name to the program. 513 00:32:56,480 --> 00:33:00,200 Speaker 1: Begin the timer. I am running to our grand other 514 00:33:00,280 --> 00:33:07,480 Speaker 1: clock and go okay um, I ain't at the topless one. 515 00:33:07,480 --> 00:33:10,840 Speaker 1: I mean, that's that's why why I think that was 516 00:33:11,000 --> 00:33:13,400 Speaker 1: no no precedent, I no, no precedent for this. Yeah. 517 00:33:13,440 --> 00:33:16,080 Speaker 1: I think that one's real though, because I I feel 518 00:33:16,120 --> 00:33:20,920 Speaker 1: like I've heard that before because it was rather unusual 519 00:33:21,440 --> 00:33:24,800 Speaker 1: for you know, dueling was kind of the dude thing, right, 520 00:33:24,840 --> 00:33:28,400 Speaker 1: so people would rememb Also, I don't think Jonathan wants 521 00:33:28,400 --> 00:33:33,600 Speaker 1: a reputation for inventing pervy sce audios to throw my yeah, 522 00:33:33,880 --> 00:33:35,960 Speaker 1: to throw my hat in here. I think the first 523 00:33:36,000 --> 00:33:43,040 Speaker 1: one is definitely real. Two dudes dueling over Latin that yeah. 524 00:33:43,040 --> 00:33:45,520 Speaker 1: And I think the last one is that seems like 525 00:33:45,600 --> 00:33:48,240 Speaker 1: dumb enough because it was like nineteen seventies that that 526 00:33:48,400 --> 00:33:51,560 Speaker 1: just you know, a one pistol working and then they 527 00:33:51,600 --> 00:33:54,760 Speaker 1: just drink champagne afterwards. That sounds you know, pretty real 528 00:33:54,800 --> 00:33:58,960 Speaker 1: to me too. I don't know, man seventies a propressed secretary. 529 00:33:59,280 --> 00:34:03,640 Speaker 1: I am not throwing away my shot. Yes, Mr Bolin, 530 00:34:04,200 --> 00:34:06,840 Speaker 1: could you give us just the like quick highlights of 531 00:34:06,920 --> 00:34:10,160 Speaker 1: number two again? I want to pay more attention to that. Yes, 532 00:34:10,280 --> 00:34:12,799 Speaker 1: number two. You have a French admiral named de la 533 00:34:12,920 --> 00:34:17,319 Speaker 1: Seuse who's at a ball, a dance as it were, 534 00:34:17,960 --> 00:34:21,600 Speaker 1: and a Prussian is dancing all up on him. He 535 00:34:21,680 --> 00:34:25,400 Speaker 1: was a rather rotund fellow, a rather rotun The Prussian 536 00:34:25,880 --> 00:34:31,680 Speaker 1: waltzing against him, and so then the French admiral challenges 537 00:34:31,800 --> 00:34:36,160 Speaker 1: the rotun the Prussian to a duel. They meet the 538 00:34:36,160 --> 00:34:40,359 Speaker 1: next day with pistols. The Prussian misses, the admiral hits. 539 00:34:40,680 --> 00:34:43,320 Speaker 1: The Prussian turns out to have also cheated by wearing 540 00:34:43,320 --> 00:34:47,560 Speaker 1: a breastplate under his clothing. Okay, guys, I think it's 541 00:34:47,600 --> 00:34:51,800 Speaker 1: a detail two or four? What's the I'm not throwing 542 00:34:51,800 --> 00:34:55,760 Speaker 1: away my shot? Shot shot? Uh? What's the year again 543 00:34:55,800 --> 00:35:00,279 Speaker 1: for number four? Number four, nineteen seventy Why? But that 544 00:35:00,320 --> 00:35:03,760 Speaker 1: would have been illegal, is heck? Yeah, you can't duel 545 00:35:03,840 --> 00:35:06,480 Speaker 1: and maybe again that's what makes it remarkable, and these 546 00:35:06,480 --> 00:35:08,920 Speaker 1: people were just nuts. But I don't know. I think 547 00:35:08,960 --> 00:35:11,080 Speaker 1: it's four. Yeah, But then again, I don't know if 548 00:35:11,120 --> 00:35:13,919 Speaker 1: Jonathan would have given away his hand by having such 549 00:35:13,920 --> 00:35:17,920 Speaker 1: an obvious, you know, uh, non dueling year. This is 550 00:35:17,960 --> 00:35:22,120 Speaker 1: like the Princess Bride poison moment, you know, Uh, are 551 00:35:22,160 --> 00:35:24,600 Speaker 1: we up against the Sicilian when death is on the line. 552 00:35:24,760 --> 00:35:28,480 Speaker 1: But but this is there's another thing here too, Max. 553 00:35:28,960 --> 00:35:32,040 Speaker 1: I know we're running close to time, but noticed that 554 00:35:32,160 --> 00:35:35,080 Speaker 1: more details came out in number two the second time 555 00:35:35,120 --> 00:35:38,880 Speaker 1: we asked him about it. That's kind of how that 556 00:35:39,000 --> 00:35:42,960 Speaker 1: asking thing works. But yeah, okay, thank you for telling me. 557 00:35:43,120 --> 00:35:45,799 Speaker 1: Thank you, Let me ask, Let me ask. I'm not 558 00:35:45,880 --> 00:35:49,960 Speaker 1: throwing away my shot. Yes, producer person, uh Jonathan, when 559 00:35:49,920 --> 00:35:52,200 Speaker 1: are we gonna hang out against him? Man? If it 560 00:35:52,200 --> 00:35:55,680 Speaker 1: has been a minute like you know, well, I'll have 561 00:35:55,719 --> 00:35:57,800 Speaker 1: to talk to you about that offline because there's the 562 00:35:57,840 --> 00:36:01,640 Speaker 1: possibility of that a certain show that might be coming back. 563 00:36:01,680 --> 00:36:04,800 Speaker 1: But I can't really talk about it. We're we're at time. 564 00:36:05,000 --> 00:36:11,160 Speaker 1: We're at times. Was question, you guys want to go 565 00:36:11,239 --> 00:36:14,080 Speaker 1: for all? Right, let's lock in for let's go for 566 00:36:14,280 --> 00:36:21,080 Speaker 1: three to one. Well you've locked in number four. This 567 00:36:21,120 --> 00:36:23,320 Speaker 1: is what I tell you. All the cup for poison, 568 00:36:23,360 --> 00:36:26,759 Speaker 1: they were all made up. No, I'm just I'm just kidding. Now, 569 00:36:26,800 --> 00:36:33,600 Speaker 1: four four was real? You lost four is real? Dancing impression. No, 570 00:36:33,800 --> 00:36:36,840 Speaker 1: the dancing impression was real. The fake one was Number 571 00:36:36,840 --> 00:36:43,719 Speaker 1: one was in fact ambassador from Spain to England. Uh 572 00:36:43,960 --> 00:36:47,280 Speaker 1: Alvaro de la Quadra was his replacement. He was the 573 00:36:47,360 --> 00:36:53,400 Speaker 1: next ambassador to from Spain to England. He replaced Gomez. 574 00:36:53,480 --> 00:36:56,560 Speaker 1: But the two never dueled. They never had any disagreement 575 00:36:56,600 --> 00:36:59,880 Speaker 1: with one another. Nope, that was the one that we 576 00:37:00,120 --> 00:37:03,279 Speaker 1: thought that we all instantly agreed. We I was the 577 00:37:03,280 --> 00:37:05,799 Speaker 1: one who said, yeah, nerd fights are real. That checks out, 578 00:37:06,360 --> 00:37:08,759 Speaker 1: and and they have happened before. There was There was 579 00:37:08,840 --> 00:37:15,799 Speaker 1: supposedly a a duel that Ben Johnson, the playwright into 580 00:37:15,880 --> 00:37:18,960 Speaker 1: it into that had something to do with either pronunciation 581 00:37:19,239 --> 00:37:22,120 Speaker 1: or intonation or something along those lines. But I didn't 582 00:37:22,120 --> 00:37:25,200 Speaker 1: include that one because I'm a Shakespeare guy, not a 583 00:37:25,280 --> 00:37:30,520 Speaker 1: Johnson guy. Title man, I know so well played, Jonathan, 584 00:37:30,600 --> 00:37:35,040 Speaker 1: you got us this time. Uh maybe it's because there 585 00:37:35,080 --> 00:37:38,400 Speaker 1: were more choices at play, but I won't do I 586 00:37:38,440 --> 00:37:40,800 Speaker 1: won't do that again. That was That was only because 587 00:37:40,800 --> 00:37:43,399 Speaker 1: I was really stung that one. It's been so long 588 00:37:43,440 --> 00:37:45,000 Speaker 1: since I've been on and to you guys were on 589 00:37:45,040 --> 00:37:50,600 Speaker 1: a streak that was dirty pool old man. But I 590 00:37:51,080 --> 00:37:54,520 Speaker 1: respect the game. I respect the game, I respect the grift. Well, 591 00:37:54,560 --> 00:37:56,200 Speaker 1: what say we do it this way? I was thinking 592 00:37:56,239 --> 00:38:00,879 Speaker 1: about this in the times that we between when we spoke, Um, 593 00:38:00,960 --> 00:38:05,279 Speaker 1: what say we now that it is two and it's 594 00:38:05,280 --> 00:38:09,320 Speaker 1: your first appearance, first return here, what say we reset 595 00:38:09,360 --> 00:38:11,759 Speaker 1: the board and have you have the official score one 596 00:38:11,880 --> 00:38:14,879 Speaker 1: nil and just reset it every year? What do you think? 597 00:38:15,960 --> 00:38:18,680 Speaker 1: Sounds like? I love that because then that means that 598 00:38:18,680 --> 00:38:24,680 Speaker 1: that we won last year. I mean I always just 599 00:38:24,719 --> 00:38:27,080 Speaker 1: looked to the future. I don't even know what last 600 00:38:27,160 --> 00:38:30,919 Speaker 1: year Wasn't this boyd so well? Can you at least 601 00:38:30,920 --> 00:38:34,279 Speaker 1: just say it's Jonathan? Can you say it? Um? I 602 00:38:34,520 --> 00:38:38,239 Speaker 1: failed to beat you last year? How about that? Wow? Okay, 603 00:38:38,400 --> 00:38:41,080 Speaker 1: I know how you really feel. I I read your blog, Man, 604 00:38:41,640 --> 00:38:47,360 Speaker 1: don't play So it is, however, an enmity aside, it 605 00:38:47,480 --> 00:38:50,560 Speaker 1: is always an absolute pleasure to have you back on 606 00:38:50,600 --> 00:38:54,160 Speaker 1: this show. Man. We recorded recently in person, and I 607 00:38:54,200 --> 00:38:57,440 Speaker 1: can't wait for a Quister segment in person. Jonathan, are you? 608 00:38:57,520 --> 00:39:00,680 Speaker 1: Are you still? Are you still? Contributing to Anathan Strickland 609 00:39:00,680 --> 00:39:04,000 Speaker 1: ak the Quister Dog blogspot dot com. You know, it's 610 00:39:04,000 --> 00:39:07,440 Speaker 1: been a while since I've posted anything. Um. I was 611 00:39:07,520 --> 00:39:11,520 Speaker 1: for a while giving a rewatch review of Community, just 612 00:39:11,600 --> 00:39:14,319 Speaker 1: going by episode by episode, but I kind of gave 613 00:39:14,400 --> 00:39:16,759 Speaker 1: up about episode four of the fourth season, you know, 614 00:39:16,800 --> 00:39:19,080 Speaker 1: the Gas League year. That's when I decided I was 615 00:39:19,080 --> 00:39:23,520 Speaker 1: really just done with it, so it kind of lost Steve. Yeah, 616 00:39:23,680 --> 00:39:25,360 Speaker 1: it was good when it was good, though whenn't it? 617 00:39:25,520 --> 00:39:28,520 Speaker 1: It was really good when it was good. I have 618 00:39:28,960 --> 00:39:32,960 Speaker 1: season five of that show excellent. You know it is. 619 00:39:33,440 --> 00:39:36,000 Speaker 1: It is a great show. Actually, I just rewatched it. 620 00:39:36,040 --> 00:39:41,200 Speaker 1: I do have one question unrelated to your villainy in 621 00:39:41,239 --> 00:39:45,520 Speaker 1: the world of podcasting, uh and it is this, what 622 00:39:45,640 --> 00:39:47,799 Speaker 1: are you and Max hanging out about? Are you guys 623 00:39:47,800 --> 00:39:49,960 Speaker 1: in a hot tub? Everybody on this show gets in 624 00:39:49,960 --> 00:39:52,160 Speaker 1: a hot top except for me. Well, you know, it's 625 00:39:52,160 --> 00:39:55,480 Speaker 1: never been in a hot tub. I'm not invited like 626 00:39:55,760 --> 00:39:58,839 Speaker 1: hot you with me? He wants me in a hot 627 00:39:58,880 --> 00:40:01,400 Speaker 1: tub with me? Guys, that's that's been boiling all the 628 00:40:01,400 --> 00:40:04,080 Speaker 1: way down. It was a hot tub of opportunity, my friend. 629 00:40:04,080 --> 00:40:06,080 Speaker 1: You just had to have been there already. It wasn't 630 00:40:06,160 --> 00:40:09,319 Speaker 1: like really a hug, you're invited to the hot tub, 631 00:40:09,360 --> 00:40:11,520 Speaker 1: You're It was just sort of like whomever was around 632 00:40:11,600 --> 00:40:13,759 Speaker 1: were invited into the hot tub. That's when you get 633 00:40:13,800 --> 00:40:17,239 Speaker 1: tapped to be the lead on a branded show, you know, 634 00:40:17,320 --> 00:40:19,080 Speaker 1: one of the shows that makes a lot of money, 635 00:40:19,200 --> 00:40:21,879 Speaker 1: one of those shows. It's when you're tapped to do that. 636 00:40:22,000 --> 00:40:25,600 Speaker 1: You just it's a different, different experience. It's all Mr Bowlin. 637 00:40:25,680 --> 00:40:29,319 Speaker 1: It's fine to play around in this space, and there's 638 00:40:29,360 --> 00:40:32,400 Speaker 1: nothing wrong with it. It's just must occasionally have to 639 00:40:32,400 --> 00:40:36,520 Speaker 1: step into what we call the big leagues. Well, I 640 00:40:36,600 --> 00:40:39,360 Speaker 1: refused to be part of any club that would admit 641 00:40:39,400 --> 00:40:43,000 Speaker 1: me as a member. So um, as always, I'm also 642 00:40:43,080 --> 00:40:50,640 Speaker 1: not a sellout, Jonathan, So so as always, as always, UM, 643 00:40:50,880 --> 00:40:54,280 Speaker 1: I love you man, deeply, deeply resent you. How dare 644 00:40:54,520 --> 00:40:57,960 Speaker 1: you out fox this? Uh? And can't wait to have 645 00:40:58,040 --> 00:41:00,920 Speaker 1: you back on the show to even the score In 646 00:41:01,000 --> 00:41:04,840 Speaker 1: the meantime, Jonathan Strickland ak the quister. Where can people 647 00:41:04,960 --> 00:41:08,640 Speaker 1: learn more about your work? Well, you can always call 648 00:41:08,680 --> 00:41:12,560 Speaker 1: it that. You can listen to my podcast tech Stuff, 649 00:41:12,640 --> 00:41:15,919 Speaker 1: where I talk about tech stuff, or you can listen 650 00:41:16,000 --> 00:41:18,600 Speaker 1: to large nerd dron Collider, which is the fun geeky 651 00:41:18,760 --> 00:41:24,640 Speaker 1: news podcast where we also mash up different geeky things 652 00:41:24,719 --> 00:41:28,279 Speaker 1: to find something new. For example, we just recorded an 653 00:41:28,280 --> 00:41:32,279 Speaker 1: episode where we mashed up the classic film Harvey, the 654 00:41:32,360 --> 00:41:35,520 Speaker 1: Jimmy Stewart film with who framed Roger Rabbit? And mine 655 00:41:35,640 --> 00:41:39,960 Speaker 1: was really sad. Harvey is the one with the giant 656 00:41:39,960 --> 00:41:42,840 Speaker 1: invisible rabbit, right it is? And Roger Rabbit is the 657 00:41:42,840 --> 00:41:48,600 Speaker 1: one with the giant visible rabbit. Yes, and uh wish 658 00:41:48,680 --> 00:41:52,040 Speaker 1: you the best of luck. You can also find Jonathan 659 00:41:52,120 --> 00:41:58,600 Speaker 1: Strickland on Twitter where you can see us occasionally, and 660 00:41:58,719 --> 00:42:04,960 Speaker 1: you can find him prowling the odd back alley cities, 661 00:42:05,280 --> 00:42:09,960 Speaker 1: just in alleys. They're yes driven, you know, in Sewer, 662 00:42:10,280 --> 00:42:13,919 Speaker 1: speaking out of Sewer graats, you know, with the you know. 663 00:42:14,440 --> 00:42:17,520 Speaker 1: It's often said there are two wolves inside of you, 664 00:42:17,800 --> 00:42:20,840 Speaker 1: and one of them is Jonathan strickland Ak the Twister, 665 00:42:21,040 --> 00:42:23,520 Speaker 1: and hopefully the other wolf inside of you is the 666 00:42:23,560 --> 00:42:27,239 Speaker 1: one that asked you to tune in next week when 667 00:42:27,280 --> 00:42:32,279 Speaker 1: our ridiculous historical adventures continue. Thank you as always to 668 00:42:32,480 --> 00:42:35,960 Speaker 1: Jonathan strickland Ak the Quister, and no thank you. I 669 00:42:36,239 --> 00:42:40,280 Speaker 1: feel like we should, I don't know, adopted a wolf 670 00:42:40,600 --> 00:42:45,319 Speaker 1: fund fund to Wolf Sanctuary, get get our job to 671 00:42:45,360 --> 00:42:49,480 Speaker 1: do it. I'm gonna. I'm gonna let you have that one. Wow. 672 00:42:49,680 --> 00:42:52,239 Speaker 1: After all, you're a better person than I. You're a 673 00:42:52,239 --> 00:42:54,319 Speaker 1: better person that I know. It just seems like a 674 00:42:54,360 --> 00:42:57,600 Speaker 1: lot of work. The wolves seem very neaty, you know, 675 00:42:57,800 --> 00:43:00,640 Speaker 1: and hungry. I just don't know if I have enough 676 00:43:00,680 --> 00:43:03,319 Speaker 1: to give. You got a real lone wolf and cub 677 00:43:03,400 --> 00:43:07,800 Speaker 1: situation going on here. It's true. Let's see you next time, folks. 678 00:43:15,440 --> 00:43:17,520 Speaker 1: For more podcasts from my Heart Radio, visit the I 679 00:43:17,560 --> 00:43:20,480 Speaker 1: Heart Radio app, Apple podcast, or wherever you listen to 680 00:43:20,520 --> 00:43:21,440 Speaker 1: your favorite shows,