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Speaker 1: Brought to you by the all new team Toyota Corolla.

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Speaker 1: Welcome to Stuff you Should Know from House Stuff Works

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Speaker 1: dot com. Hey, I'm welcome to the podcast on Josh,

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Speaker 1: there's Chuck and we hope we sound correct. Yes, yeah,

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Speaker 1: what does that mean? Well, Jerry was looking at her

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Speaker 1: putting the headphones up to her years, so like, she's

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Speaker 1: not you paying attention to here. Basically, what you're saying

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Speaker 1: is we have no quality control gong on it right now. Well,

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Speaker 1: no we did, because Jerry had the headphones up to

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Speaker 1: her years. Yeah, now we don't. She checks in. Occasionally

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Speaker 1: she wakes up and says, yeah, yeah, yeah, what so Chuck, Yes,

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Speaker 1: how's it going. It's going great. How are you? I'm

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Speaker 1: doing good? Good? Um? Huh do you look well? Thank

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Speaker 1: you very much? Healthy, fit, well, happy, sun kissed, sun kissed. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's really good, um, Chuck. Have you ever seen a

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Speaker 1: guide dog a guy dog? Guide? Oh? Yeah yeah, guide

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Speaker 1: dogs them all the time. Do you know why they

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Speaker 1: are also called seeing eye dogs are used to be

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Speaker 1: uh well, because guide dogs specifically, unlike the general term

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Speaker 1: service dogs, are to help guide around people who cannot see.

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Speaker 1: That is a pretty nice story, but it's not entirely

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Speaker 1: correct feeling. Seeing Eye dogs were actually UM part of

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Speaker 1: a company called the Seeing Eye was the first American

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Speaker 1: guide dog training company. UH. And it wasn't the Americans

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Speaker 1: who came up with training guide dogs. It was actually

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Speaker 1: the Germans UH. In Potstam, Germany, the first UM guide

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Speaker 1: dog training Academy was set up to help veterans that

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Speaker 1: have been blinded in World War One. UM and it

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Speaker 1: was successful. It didn't really take off. UM. But a woman,

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Speaker 1: an American woman living in Switzerland. Her name was Dorothy

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Speaker 1: Harris Eustace. She was very wealthy American, heard about this

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Speaker 1: when visited the school and said, this is pretty awesome.

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Speaker 1: Came back, waited a few years before she got around

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Speaker 1: to writing an article and it was published in the

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Speaker 1: Saturday Evening Post. And a young uh blind whipper snapper

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Speaker 1: named UM Norman Rockwell, No, his name was Morris Frank.

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Speaker 1: He heard about it and he got in touch with

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Speaker 1: Mrs Eustace and said, I would like one of these dogs.

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Speaker 1: Can you help me out? He said? She said, not

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Speaker 1: only will I help you out, I'm gonna fly you

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Speaker 1: to pot Stamp to Switzerland. Actually you're going to be

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Speaker 1: trained with a dog and we give you ten thousand

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Speaker 1: dollars to go start the first school in America. So

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Speaker 1: Morris Frank took the took her up on it, took

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Speaker 1: the ten thousand dollars and started in Tennessee the Seeing

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Speaker 1: Eye Dog School. So are you saying that Seeing Eye

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Speaker 1: dogs are the Kleenex of the working service dog world.

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Speaker 1: That's very apt. It's actually a brand name. Interesting. I

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Speaker 1: never knew that to see. He asked how I like this,

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Speaker 1: and I said, nothing really surprised me. It was a

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Speaker 1: good article, but I wasn't surprised. And here you go,

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Speaker 1: surprising me right off the bat. Thanks. All right, guy dogs,

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Speaker 1: let's get to it. Eight. Yeah, it's a pretty straightforward stuff,

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Speaker 1: but it's neat to know the details of things. Like

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Speaker 1: first of all, if you ever see a guy dog,

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Speaker 1: it's actually working and you should leave it alone. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's um in my house. It's difficult with Emily. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you're really not supposed to do that. I know, and

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Speaker 1: she doesn't. But dude, she's like a five year old

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Speaker 1: like she will. I have seen her fake like she's

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Speaker 1: your your guide dogs. She's like a frauder. She's like

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Speaker 1: especially with guide dogs. Why Emily would do that because

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Speaker 1: it's like dogs and then five echelons up guide dogs, right,

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Speaker 1: Not only are they dogs, which are great animals to

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Speaker 1: which makes you want to pet him even more. But

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Speaker 1: to say that you can never um touch a guide dog.

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Speaker 1: Normally you want to leave them alone. Just rub them

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Speaker 1: back into his concentration working mode after he's been petted. Okay,

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Speaker 1: that's rule number one. Okay. Guy dogs are rule number two.

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Speaker 1: Typically allowed anywhere the general public is allowed, because if

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Speaker 1: want you know, why Emily wants to rub up against them,

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Speaker 1: going to create any kind of ruckus or disturbance. So

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Speaker 1: the dog has to be extraordinarily well trained, um to concentrate,

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Speaker 1: You don't want a dog that like runs some and

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Speaker 1: and that's a good way to I mean, you should

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Speaker 1: coolest thing in this article about guide dogs. The dog

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Speaker 1: Like what, I used to take Marta and there was

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Speaker 1: it's playtime. Were you saying that with like to you

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Speaker 1: They have to work together, um because they the dog

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Speaker 1: it's belly rub time. Right. A guy dog is both um,

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Speaker 1: razor say hey, do you want this dog? Um, you failed,

424
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Speaker 1: would you like the dog back as a token to

425
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Speaker 1: commemorate your failure or are the sweetest thing? Ever? Perhaps

426
00:24:03,800 --> 00:24:06,160
Speaker 1: when that dog retires you might get it back. Yeah.

427
00:24:06,240 --> 00:24:11,159
Speaker 1: Usually if the person who has the guy dog, ye

428
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Speaker 1: the handler. The handler can't because they need another guy

429
00:24:14,960 --> 00:24:18,720
Speaker 1: dog after that one retires. If they can't keep two dogs,

430
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Speaker 1: keep the other one of the pet, then I think

431
00:24:21,359 --> 00:24:23,760
Speaker 1: you have first shot if you raise it as a puppy. Yeah.

432
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Speaker 1: Could you imagine like raising this puppy, giving away, and

433
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Speaker 1: like ten years later getting it back Christian the Lion

434
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Speaker 1: or something. Yeah, you know that's right. Uh So, once

435
00:24:35,480 --> 00:24:39,439
Speaker 1: your puppy has been raised and it goes to regular school, Um,

436
00:24:39,760 --> 00:24:44,080
Speaker 1: they're gonna basically reinforce and train everything they've already learned

437
00:24:44,080 --> 00:24:49,600
Speaker 1: and then introduced like all the serious parts of schooling.

438
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Speaker 1: Like here's an intersection, here's a cliff here stairs. A

439
00:24:53,440 --> 00:24:56,399
Speaker 1: lot of the schools have fake intersections built so they

440
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Speaker 1: can really you know, do like hands on training there

441
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Speaker 1: on the campus, right. And this is like intensive training.

442
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Speaker 1: This isn't like whenever some burnout who like lives at

443
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Speaker 1: the school gets around to it. Like, this is intensive

444
00:25:08,400 --> 00:25:13,639
Speaker 1: training like every every day from multiple people, one of

445
00:25:13,680 --> 00:25:18,360
Speaker 1: whom the dog trainer, the master trainer is actually assisted

446
00:25:18,400 --> 00:25:22,280
Speaker 1: by other apprentice trainers, um and and like it's a

447
00:25:22,400 --> 00:25:27,800
Speaker 1: very intensive um months long training. Yeah, about six months,

448
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Speaker 1: I think. Yeah, And that's after a year to a

449
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Speaker 1: year and a half of puppy training. So by the

450
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Speaker 1: time I handled uh gets it, that's you know, a

451
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Speaker 1: couple of years old. Well, not only is there so

452
00:25:39,080 --> 00:25:42,479
Speaker 1: there's puppy training, six months of intensive dog school training,

453
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Speaker 1: and then when the handlers finally matched, there's a whole

454
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Speaker 1: month where the handler and the dog are trained together

455
00:25:50,240 --> 00:25:52,280
Speaker 1: and the matching process takes a little while too. You know,

456
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Speaker 1: they don't just throw any dog with any person. That's

457
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Speaker 1: got to be a just like adopting any dog, it's

458
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Speaker 1: gotta be a good personality match for you. So, Chuck Water,

459
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Speaker 1: let's go back to dog training school. We got a

460
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Speaker 1: little excited. Okay, um right, So, like you said, a

461
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Speaker 1: lot of places will have their own intersections built simulated. Um.

462
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Speaker 1: The first step before they ever get to that point

463
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Speaker 1: is learning to walk like a guy dog in a

464
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Speaker 1: straight line, a little forward ahead of the handler and

465
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Speaker 1: slightly to the left, up and to the left. One,

466
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Speaker 1: and this is a big one. The guy dog has

467
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Speaker 1: to be taught to think of its of the world

468
00:26:32,680 --> 00:26:36,879
Speaker 1: in human size dog's eye view any longer, but human size,

469
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Speaker 1: because apparently they pick up pretty easily, like, well, there's

470
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Speaker 1: a garbage can. I need to make a wide arc

471
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Speaker 1: around the garbage cancer that the guy I'm leading doesn't

472
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Speaker 1: run into the garbage can. But what about that narrow

473
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Speaker 1: cravasse that I can fit through, no problem? But my

474
00:26:52,840 --> 00:26:55,359
Speaker 1: blind guy is a big fatty in the way he

475
00:26:55,400 --> 00:26:58,800
Speaker 1: can fit through their Look at this guy exactly, I'm

476
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Speaker 1: gonna have to go around the block because he can't

477
00:27:00,600 --> 00:27:03,240
Speaker 1: go down this alleyway. Right. A dog has to think

478
00:27:03,320 --> 00:27:06,880
Speaker 1: in terms of of its world like that, And that's

479
00:27:06,880 --> 00:27:10,040
Speaker 1: that's enormous to be able to train something like that,

480
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Speaker 1: and for the dog to be able to learn like that,

481
00:27:12,160 --> 00:27:14,840
Speaker 1: that's just really my hat is off, like over and

482
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Speaker 1: over again. I'm just not even putting it back on

483
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Speaker 1: for the rest of this episode. Uh yeah. The one

484
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Speaker 1: that really knocked me out was the headroom. Like the dog,

485
00:27:23,560 --> 00:27:26,280
Speaker 1: even though it's two and a half feet off the ground,

486
00:27:26,720 --> 00:27:29,320
Speaker 1: will be able to look up and say, this guy

487
00:27:29,440 --> 00:27:34,200
Speaker 1: might or lady might bang her head on this low

488
00:27:34,200 --> 00:27:37,960
Speaker 1: hanging beam. I shouldn't go into the shouldn't go in there.

489
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Speaker 1: You stay out of the sewer. So that's just amazing,

490
00:27:41,560 --> 00:27:43,040
Speaker 1: Like the dog has to look up and know how

491
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Speaker 1: tall the owner is and gauge how low that beam is. Unreal.

492
00:27:48,920 --> 00:27:51,640
Speaker 1: That matched again with the most spectacular thing in the world,

493
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Speaker 1: selective disobedience, um stopping at all curbs, all stairs, um

494
00:27:57,760 --> 00:28:01,440
Speaker 1: learning all of the commands, Uh, go to the right,

495
00:28:01,720 --> 00:28:05,000
Speaker 1: go to the left, forward you mean? And I watched

496
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Speaker 1: Short Circule last night holds up pretty well. Um, except

497
00:28:09,760 --> 00:28:13,240
Speaker 1: that just as crappy as it was exactly the Fisher

498
00:28:13,359 --> 00:28:19,000
Speaker 1: Stevens character. The Indian programmer is so racist contests because

499
00:28:19,000 --> 00:28:23,080
Speaker 1: it's a white guy doing like the worst Indian impression

500
00:28:23,160 --> 00:28:27,399
Speaker 1: Acky Rooney and and what's it called? I have no

501
00:28:27,480 --> 00:28:30,920
Speaker 1: idea breakfast at Tippany's. He played the Mr Moto or

502
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Speaker 1: whatever the Chinese. Yeah, oh, I have to watch that

503
00:28:34,240 --> 00:28:37,359
Speaker 1: very famous racist portrayal. But anyway, like Johnny, they couldn't

504
00:28:37,400 --> 00:28:39,720
Speaker 1: get Johnny five to to come for Ali Shed. He

505
00:28:39,720 --> 00:28:43,560
Speaker 1: couldn't until she stumbled upon Forward. She's like, come here,

506
00:28:43,720 --> 00:28:46,560
Speaker 1: come this way walk and he was just standing there

507
00:28:46,560 --> 00:28:50,480
Speaker 1: and she's like forward and he's like, oh, forward goes forward.

508
00:28:50,800 --> 00:28:53,840
Speaker 1: So guy dogs and sentient robots, you have to stay

509
00:28:53,880 --> 00:28:57,280
Speaker 1: forward from the eighties, all right. So we said before

510
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Speaker 1: of the puppies are weeded out off the top. Out

511
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Speaker 1: of those puppies who go to school, about fifty of

512
00:29:04,920 --> 00:29:08,360
Speaker 1: those are kicked out of school. And then finally, once

513
00:29:08,560 --> 00:29:14,560
Speaker 1: those remaining are in school, only about those graduate. So

514
00:29:14,640 --> 00:29:17,480
Speaker 1: they really weed out. To say, out of four hundred

515
00:29:17,480 --> 00:29:20,360
Speaker 1: dogs that go through puppy training, you've got like a

516
00:29:20,440 --> 00:29:23,840
Speaker 1: hundred and forty can eventually graduate and go on to

517
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Speaker 1: be matched with a handler. Um. And you know, there

518
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Speaker 1: there are a few things that will weed a dog out,

519
00:29:28,360 --> 00:29:31,800
Speaker 1: even if they're pretty good. If they're like aggressive towards

520
00:29:31,920 --> 00:29:34,680
Speaker 1: cats or something you know, that'll weed them out, so

521
00:29:34,840 --> 00:29:38,400
Speaker 1: they really get the cream of the crop. Drug problems gone.

522
00:29:40,200 --> 00:29:42,920
Speaker 1: They don't want any drug abusers in there, so they

523
00:29:42,960 --> 00:29:44,840
Speaker 1: get the cream of the crop. At the end, make

524
00:29:44,880 --> 00:29:48,480
Speaker 1: sure they're compatible with their handler, train the handler with

525
00:29:48,560 --> 00:29:52,320
Speaker 1: the people, and then boom, you've got a match made

526
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Speaker 1: in heaven. Yeah. In the article, Tom Harris says, like,

527
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Speaker 1: if you're if you're taking a first time handler, somebody

528
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Speaker 1: who hasn't had a guy dog before. Um, by the

529
00:30:01,600 --> 00:30:04,560
Speaker 1: time the handler comes in and you're putting it together

530
00:30:04,600 --> 00:30:07,760
Speaker 1: with the dog, now you're basically in people training mode.

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Speaker 1: Your guide dogs already trained. The process is training the

532
00:30:11,480 --> 00:30:16,360
Speaker 1: handler in the commands that that the dog already knows, um,

533
00:30:16,400 --> 00:30:19,000
Speaker 1: training the handler how to walk and and basically taking

534
00:30:19,560 --> 00:30:23,000
Speaker 1: these this person and this dog and teaching them how

535
00:30:23,000 --> 00:30:25,160
Speaker 1: to work as a team. Yeah. And the dog has

536
00:30:25,240 --> 00:30:27,000
Speaker 1: you know, this is their new master. They've had their

537
00:30:27,040 --> 00:30:30,640
Speaker 1: instructor for six months or more. So it takes a

538
00:30:30,680 --> 00:30:33,640
Speaker 1: little while to adjust to this fact that hey, this

539
00:30:33,720 --> 00:30:36,080
Speaker 1: is my new my new alpha dog. Yeah, and usually

540
00:30:36,120 --> 00:30:38,520
Speaker 1: it takes I think on average about a month. That's

541
00:30:38,680 --> 00:30:42,480
Speaker 1: about the time that set aside um. And so these

542
00:30:43,000 --> 00:30:49,280
Speaker 1: nonprofit guide dog schools have like facilities for blind people

543
00:30:49,280 --> 00:30:53,720
Speaker 1: to come live while they're spending a month learning how

544
00:30:53,760 --> 00:30:55,800
Speaker 1: to work with their guide dog. Yeah, some of them

545
00:30:55,800 --> 00:30:58,400
Speaker 1: have dorms. That's pretty cool. That's very cool. And again

546
00:30:58,720 --> 00:31:02,760
Speaker 1: we should say all of this is free. The nonprofit

547
00:31:02,880 --> 00:31:07,640
Speaker 1: group is shouldering all of the financial burden of puppy rasors. Um.

548
00:31:07,720 --> 00:31:11,200
Speaker 1: They're given a stipend for food, All bills are paid

549
00:31:11,240 --> 00:31:16,400
Speaker 1: by them the guide dog school. Um. They everything, everything

550
00:31:16,440 --> 00:31:18,800
Speaker 1: that has to do with the training and the raising

551
00:31:18,840 --> 00:31:23,600
Speaker 1: of these dogs is paid for um by these nonprofit groups.

552
00:31:23,640 --> 00:31:27,000
Speaker 1: So amazing. If you're looking for a place to leave

553
00:31:27,040 --> 00:31:30,320
Speaker 1: an inheritance, you could do worse than a guide dog school.

554
00:31:30,640 --> 00:31:34,360
Speaker 1: That Josh is a one dog school. Right. I'll give

555
00:31:34,400 --> 00:31:38,240
Speaker 1: you my text information if you email me directly. UM.

556
00:31:38,320 --> 00:31:40,640
Speaker 1: So if you want to be an instructor, it's gonna

557
00:31:40,720 --> 00:31:43,600
Speaker 1: vary depending on what school you're gonna try and go to,

558
00:31:44,360 --> 00:31:47,120
Speaker 1: but generally you have to have two to three years

559
00:31:47,320 --> 00:31:51,880
Speaker 1: UM experience as an apprentice supervised apprentice UH, and then

560
00:31:51,960 --> 00:31:58,440
Speaker 1: different states have certification processes. Um. You're probably a college graduate. Um.

561
00:31:58,480 --> 00:32:00,880
Speaker 1: Even though the job doesn't pay, it's still really hard

562
00:32:00,920 --> 00:32:03,400
Speaker 1: to get this job. People want to do this, so

563
00:32:03,600 --> 00:32:06,040
Speaker 1: it's it's wait listed a lot of times, not a

564
00:32:06,040 --> 00:32:08,440
Speaker 1: lot of openings, and it's a tough job to get.

565
00:32:08,480 --> 00:32:13,480
Speaker 1: It's very demanding physically and emotionally, and it's a real

566
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Speaker 1: challenge as a trainer, but super rewarding. What don't you think?

567
00:32:18,640 --> 00:32:21,360
Speaker 1: And if you are interested in becoming a master trainer,

568
00:32:21,720 --> 00:32:23,800
Speaker 1: from what I understand, the best route to take is

569
00:32:23,840 --> 00:32:26,680
Speaker 1: to start by being a puppy razor, work your way

570
00:32:26,720 --> 00:32:29,560
Speaker 1: up to apprentice trainer and then to master trainer. And

571
00:32:29,640 --> 00:32:31,680
Speaker 1: who knows, you may just feel like topping out at

572
00:32:31,800 --> 00:32:36,040
Speaker 1: um puppy raiser. Anybody can do it. Violent application have

573
00:32:36,160 --> 00:32:40,000
Speaker 1: to be, you know, pass of course it has to.

574
00:32:40,160 --> 00:32:42,600
Speaker 1: I would imagine you. I don't see how you could

575
00:32:42,640 --> 00:32:48,280
Speaker 1: have a job like a regular it's probably yeah, because

576
00:32:48,320 --> 00:32:50,120
Speaker 1: I mean, if you're exposing a dog to five new

577
00:32:50,160 --> 00:32:52,240
Speaker 1: things a week, Yeah, I guess you could balance the

578
00:32:52,280 --> 00:32:55,680
Speaker 1: two if it was like my work and this puppy. Yeah.

579
00:32:56,200 --> 00:32:58,640
Speaker 1: But even still, I don't know. I would think you'd

580
00:32:58,640 --> 00:33:01,560
Speaker 1: probably get bumped off a lot. And they're screening you

581
00:33:01,560 --> 00:33:03,960
Speaker 1: too to make sure you're like a super awesome person, right,

582
00:33:04,080 --> 00:33:06,240
Speaker 1: and you're not like I'm gonna explose them to the

583
00:33:06,240 --> 00:33:12,920
Speaker 1: back of my hand. You have like stains on the

584
00:33:13,080 --> 00:33:17,760
Speaker 1: sleeveless undershirt that you wore to that puppy raising application meeting.

585
00:33:18,040 --> 00:33:20,640
Speaker 1: Give me like four of them puppies. I'll train them good.

586
00:33:20,800 --> 00:33:24,840
Speaker 1: They may pass you by. Yeah. Yeah, so uh yeah,

587
00:33:25,000 --> 00:33:27,120
Speaker 1: anybody can do it, I guess, is what we're trying

588
00:33:27,160 --> 00:33:29,920
Speaker 1: to say almost to anybody. Yeah, and I don't I

589
00:33:29,960 --> 00:33:32,000
Speaker 1: don't know if they how heavily they screen as far

590
00:33:32,040 --> 00:33:34,600
Speaker 1: as like if you have kids, or you can have

591
00:33:34,680 --> 00:33:36,920
Speaker 1: other dogs, even other puppies, but your puppy has to

592
00:33:36,920 --> 00:33:38,960
Speaker 1: be I think seven months old. Yeah, And I guess

593
00:33:39,000 --> 00:33:40,520
Speaker 1: the whole point is they have to deal with those

594
00:33:40,520 --> 00:33:45,280
Speaker 1: distractions right anyway, bad thing. That's exactly what the mind

595
00:33:45,400 --> 00:33:48,680
Speaker 1: thought processes behind that. Uh. And like we said, they

596
00:33:48,720 --> 00:33:53,840
Speaker 1: retire generally eight to ten years old, um, although that

597
00:33:53,880 --> 00:33:56,520
Speaker 1: doesn't mean they're like old and feeble. That just means

598
00:33:56,560 --> 00:33:59,080
Speaker 1: it's probably time to get a new guide dog. Right.

599
00:33:59,240 --> 00:34:03,520
Speaker 1: They are sharp mentally typically, um, but they're starting to

600
00:34:03,520 --> 00:34:04,920
Speaker 1: slow down a little bit and they have to be

601
00:34:04,960 --> 00:34:07,560
Speaker 1: able to keep pace with their their handlers. So yeah,

602
00:34:07,600 --> 00:34:09,720
Speaker 1: I think about eight to ten is the usual age

603
00:34:09,719 --> 00:34:12,000
Speaker 1: that they're retired. Yeah, and like you said, they'll offer

604
00:34:12,040 --> 00:34:14,800
Speaker 1: it to the handler. If the handlers like, yeah, I

605
00:34:14,840 --> 00:34:17,160
Speaker 1: can handle like keeping this dog and still get my

606
00:34:17,200 --> 00:34:19,520
Speaker 1: new guy dog, then great. If not, they may offer

607
00:34:19,600 --> 00:34:23,520
Speaker 1: to the original puppy raiser, or you might be lucky enough.

608
00:34:24,000 --> 00:34:27,520
Speaker 1: It's another waitless deal because people want to adopt retired

609
00:34:27,520 --> 00:34:31,080
Speaker 1: guy dogs because they're pretty much the best and you

610
00:34:31,160 --> 00:34:32,879
Speaker 1: may not have as much time with them, but it's

611
00:34:33,160 --> 00:34:36,080
Speaker 1: you're providing them with Like it's almost like, you know,

612
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Speaker 1: taking in an old person and giving them something great

613
00:34:39,200 --> 00:34:43,160
Speaker 1: in their twilight years, right, like just letting them whip

614
00:34:43,239 --> 00:34:45,040
Speaker 1: cream right out of the can in time they want

615
00:34:45,120 --> 00:34:47,840
Speaker 1: kind of thing, whoop wherever you want. They're like, dude,

616
00:34:47,880 --> 00:34:51,200
Speaker 1: what's wrong with you? Poop into my hand? The dog

617
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Speaker 1: just seeds are crazy. It's like I remember I used

618
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Speaker 1: to work, Yeah, asked me to do? I love that

619
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Speaker 1: blind guy so much more? Did you? I can't even

620
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Speaker 1: mention it on this, I think, all right, all right, Uh,

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Speaker 1: you got anything else about guide dogs? This was a

622
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Speaker 1: little wackier than I thought it was gonna be. Okay, Well,

623
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Speaker 1: if you want to learn all about guide dogs, you

624
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Speaker 1: can type guide dogs into the search bar at how

625
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Speaker 1: Stuff works dot com. And since I said switch bar,

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627
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Speaker 1: it's time for listener mail. That's right, and this is

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Speaker 1: dog centric. It just worked out that way. Uh. This

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Speaker 1: the proceeds from selling my hand into items to an

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Speaker 1: Remember the chihuahua that could detect breast cancer? And um,

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Speaker 1: I feel like we talked about that organization in that episode.

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Speaker 1: I think you're right. So Angels among Us in Alpharetta

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Speaker 1: my knitting site donated five thousand dollars to their cause,

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Speaker 1: and this year my goal is six thousand dollars. And

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Speaker 1: days ago, I lost my fifteen year old rescue girl, Rica,

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Speaker 1: moved with me from Denver to Tulsa, to Kansas City,

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Speaker 1: Her loss has broken my heart, but it has also

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Speaker 1: inspired me to work even harder to accomplish my goal

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Speaker 1: for other homeless animals, including asking for help spreading the words. Guys,

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Speaker 1: I would love it uh to make you both some

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Speaker 1: hand knitted hats for the winner if you think you'd

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Speaker 1: enjoy them. The links to my page on Facebook and

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Speaker 1: too Angels among Us or below you can see pictures

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Speaker 1: of the hats, baby hats, dog sweaters, all kinds of

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Speaker 1: things I can knit. UM, thanks for your consideration but

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Speaker 1: more than anything, thanks for a fantastic podcast that keeps

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Speaker 1: me entertained and educated. Uh So, this is from Jane

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Speaker 1: go to Angels among Us Pet Rescue. That is so cool.

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Speaker 1: slash Jane's Creations j A. N. E. S. Creations of Denver, Colorado,

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Speaker 1: Facebook dot com slash Angels Rescue. And uh, let's help

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Speaker 1: pretty awesome. Let's do it. Let's make it an official

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Speaker 1: so go to Facebook dot com slash Jaane's Creations and

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Speaker 1: uh Ja dot Cars, corresponding with her own email, I

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Speaker 1: It's nice. Animal crazy people are the best crazy people around. Agreed. Uh,

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Speaker 1: if you want us to help try to raise some

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