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Speaker 2: I've heard so many players say, well, I want to

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Speaker 2: be happy.

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Speaker 1: You want to be happy for a day? Edith state

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Speaker 1: is that?

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Speaker 2: Whoo whoom? And then and tie, Dan Rubinstein, I only

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Speaker 2: have one thing to say about today's episode, actually our

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Speaker 2: series of the next three episodes. Okay, it just means more,

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Speaker 2: my friend, Ah, it just means more, Just means more.

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Speaker 2: Today is part one of the three part SEC Preview.

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Speaker 2: Go back and listen to the other ones that we've

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Speaker 2: done if you want to get the feel for what

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Speaker 2: exactly we're doing here. But the first of our SEC

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Speaker 2: preview episodes today is going to be contender tears, big

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Speaker 2: picture storylines, interesting tidbits that we picked up along the way.

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Speaker 2: Then as we get into parts two and three, that's

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Speaker 2: when we get a little bit more in the weeds,

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Speaker 2: talk through specifically what we are interested in with regard

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Speaker 2: to position groups and tendencies and burning questions and all

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Speaker 2: that stuff with the sixteen teams in the SEC. Dan,

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Speaker 2: But as always, not to bury the lead. It is

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Speaker 2: a pleasure to be back with you, sir.

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Speaker 1: How are you? I'm great, Ty and you know, you

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Speaker 1: go through a bunch of these highly ranked teams and

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Speaker 1: the Big ten and the ACC and the Big twelve,

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Speaker 1: and yeah, they get their attention, Tie, they get our attention. Tie.

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Speaker 1: But there is something special about going to a conference

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Speaker 1: like the SEC and shining a light on the underdogs

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Speaker 1: who just can't seem to win a national championship.

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Speaker 2: Tie.

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Speaker 1: It's been a minute.

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Speaker 2: It's been too long.

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Speaker 1: You look at the SEC.

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Speaker 2: Been more than a minute.

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Speaker 1: When you look at some of these scrappy upstarts, Tye,

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Speaker 1: you tell me why not? Why not them? Tie? Why

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Speaker 2: It is going to be a fascinating SEC season this year,

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Speaker 2: and I suspect we're gonna get into that over the

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Speaker 2: next hour or so. Thank you for tuning back into

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Speaker 2: support what Dan and I do. Got a bunch of

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Speaker 2: awesome suggestions on the show we did with Josh last episode.

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Speaker 2: Go back and listen to that one. Some of the

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Speaker 2: takes that Overballerhood sent in were truly remarkable. Kudos to

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Speaker 2: those of you out there who are listening. But yeah,

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Speaker 2: on today's episode, we were diving into the last power

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Speaker 2: conference during our previous season. We still have Notre Dame

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Speaker 2: and I guess Ukon to go. We'll get to that

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Speaker 2: in due course, but right now, let's focus on all

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Speaker 2: things SEC. Dan Rubinstein, please can't wait as you're going

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Speaker 2: through the SEC, as you're rifling through all these teams,

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Speaker 2: as you're trying to put them in any kind of

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Speaker 2: logical order, building your tiers. We have different tiers again

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Speaker 2: as we have the previous three conferences that we did.

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Speaker 2: What were the key themes that jumped out to you

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Speaker 2: Aside from the fact that it's interesting every year, But

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Speaker 2: what is different about twenty twenty five? To you?

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Speaker 1: As I went through, I wrote down fast food callon

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Speaker 1: questionable Beef that there is a certain amount of variants

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Speaker 1: because of so many teams having so many questions along

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Speaker 1: And when you look at teams competing like Texas placing

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Speaker 2: let's be real, arch Manning is going to be the

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Speaker 2: We're going to talk a lot about arch Manning. He's

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Speaker 1: That's the rarity of arch Manning and the rarity of

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Speaker 2: outsized impact on how we put our tier rankings together. Now,

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Speaker 2: other episodes we've done, Dan and I we do not

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Speaker 2: name them differently. We feel all sorts of different emotions.

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Speaker 2: Here that's sort of the purpose of all this. But

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Speaker 1: Dam Yeah, I've since By the way, I've since changed

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Speaker 2: I have a contender tier and X Factor Tier one

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Speaker 1: I think I've got apex predators, predators Taipan and the

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Speaker 1: Tire Alabama, Texas, Georgia in that specific order.

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Speaker 2: Polls, I have two other teams of my contender tier. Okay,

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Speaker 1: It's a combination of coach, quarterback upside and defense. Okay,

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Speaker 1: and I think they're it's just a separation point after

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Speaker 1: the development on Georgia's defense and Kirby Smart having been there,

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Speaker 1: is in terms of, like, these teams look like they're

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Speaker 2: I mean, it's a huge coaching advantage to have Kirby smart.

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Speaker 2: two other ones in my contender tier in Texas A

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Speaker 2: and M and LSU. You say you've got them? Are

436
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Speaker 2: they in that order? The next rung down?

437
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Speaker 1: No, my next team is LSU, and then after that

438
00:22:44,160 --> 00:22:45,200
Speaker 1: I have Ole. Miss.

439
00:22:45,560 --> 00:22:49,560
Speaker 2: Okay, let's stay with Texas A and M then for

440
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Speaker 2: a second, because they're next up on my list, and

441
00:22:52,320 --> 00:22:53,800
Speaker 2: then I get to LSU and we can sort of

442
00:22:53,840 --> 00:22:58,280
Speaker 2: talk through some of these other points of disagreement. I

443
00:22:58,400 --> 00:23:01,280
Speaker 2: like DA and M way more than I expected. And

444
00:23:01,400 --> 00:23:04,600
Speaker 2: when I started doing this, I've done this for all

445
00:23:04,600 --> 00:23:07,800
Speaker 2: the conferences that we talked through. On my little sheet,

446
00:23:08,600 --> 00:23:11,440
Speaker 2: I put together a tier ranking before I do any research,

447
00:23:13,080 --> 00:23:15,640
Speaker 2: take a screen grab of it, and then I see

448
00:23:15,680 --> 00:23:17,440
Speaker 2: what it looks like after I do all the research.

449
00:23:18,080 --> 00:23:19,760
Speaker 2: A and M was the team that I bumped up

450
00:23:19,760 --> 00:23:24,280
Speaker 2: the highest. Okay, I love this team. Okay, I do

451
00:23:24,320 --> 00:23:28,359
Speaker 2: think there are limitations, but they have an absolute ton back.

452
00:23:30,040 --> 00:23:32,159
Speaker 1: They're gonna have a beast rushing attack.

453
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Speaker 2: I jotted down that they're the Alabama of Ulms this year,

454
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Speaker 2: and what I mean by that is Ulm is gonna

455
00:23:39,520 --> 00:23:42,640
Speaker 2: run the ever loving crap out of the football. If

456
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Speaker 2: you imagine a ten times better version of that, that's

457
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Speaker 2: Texas A and M this year. I think the combination

458
00:23:51,160 --> 00:23:55,760
Speaker 2: of having a really deep backfield with a really good line,

459
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Speaker 2: with a quarterback who's had now a full year or

460
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Speaker 2: a full off season knowing that he's going to be

461
00:24:01,400 --> 00:24:04,720
Speaker 2: the guy, having an offensive coordinator, and Colin Klein, who

462
00:24:04,760 --> 00:24:08,320
Speaker 2: favors this style of quarterback, having a quarterback by it

463
00:24:08,960 --> 00:24:12,679
Speaker 2: in his own right was really good last season. There

464
00:24:12,680 --> 00:24:14,920
Speaker 2: are some limitations. He's got to shore up some elements

465
00:24:14,960 --> 00:24:17,800
Speaker 2: of his game, but I think offensively that is going

466
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Speaker 2: to be what they are very very good at and

467
00:24:20,560 --> 00:24:24,080
Speaker 2: then you factor in a guy like Casey Concepcion some

468
00:24:24,200 --> 00:24:26,360
Speaker 2: other guys that maybe can blow the lid off a defense,

469
00:24:26,400 --> 00:24:28,840
Speaker 2: like they can do some interesting things with this offense

470
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Speaker 2: that I don't think the average college football fan is

471
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Speaker 2: fully grasped yet. Sure, so I'm excited about the offense.

472
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Speaker 2: I do think it's going to be a very physical,

473
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Speaker 2: smash mouth brand of football. I think it'll be fun

474
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Speaker 2: to watch, and I think the defense is also going

475
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Speaker 2: to be really, really solid. So I look at this

476
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Speaker 2: team and I was going through the schedule and it's like,

477
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Speaker 2: I don't know, eight wins a year ago. I'm looking

478
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Speaker 2: at that game Week three at Notre Dame. Can you

479
00:24:57,560 --> 00:25:00,679
Speaker 2: get into a slugfest and maybe beat Notre Dame? I

480
00:25:00,680 --> 00:25:03,560
Speaker 2: don't think that's out of the question. Can you go

481
00:25:03,600 --> 00:25:08,679
Speaker 2: to LSU and play a slugfest brand of offense and

482
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Speaker 2: run the ball on a defense that maybe is improved

483
00:25:11,920 --> 00:25:14,359
Speaker 2: but is still not where they want it to be

484
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Speaker 2: convinced me that?

485
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Speaker 1: Mm hmm?

486
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Speaker 2: Could you play Texas in a rivalry game and have

487
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Speaker 2: something weird happen. I'm not making the case for twelve

488
00:25:24,800 --> 00:25:28,479
Speaker 2: and oh Dan, but I'm just saying I like this

489
00:25:28,560 --> 00:25:30,840
Speaker 2: team way more than I expected when I considered all

490
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Speaker 2: the factors, especially with how I think they're going to

491
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Speaker 2: play on offense.

492
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Speaker 1: Every thing you said is realistic and makes sense. My

493
00:25:38,119 --> 00:25:41,320
Speaker 1: counterpoint is they're Texas A and M and they go

494
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Speaker 1: eight and four. Okay, let's fine, find a new coach

495
00:25:46,040 --> 00:25:48,640
Speaker 1: eight and four. Find a new coach eight and four.

496
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Speaker 1: They do it in different ways. The road traveled, maybe

497
00:25:53,760 --> 00:25:56,840
Speaker 1: a little bit with filled with more gravel, a little

498
00:25:56,880 --> 00:26:01,080
Speaker 1: bit smoother ride, better quarterback play, worse quarterback gets scared

499
00:26:01,119 --> 00:26:05,560
Speaker 1: against UMass and app State, whatever. But that's the concern.

500
00:26:06,040 --> 00:26:11,480
Speaker 1: That's the concern that there is the weight of expectations

501
00:26:11,520 --> 00:26:14,200
Speaker 1: that this program, no matter who the coach is, that

502
00:26:14,320 --> 00:26:17,720
Speaker 1: they just have a lot of difficulty realizing now that

503
00:26:17,720 --> 00:26:23,040
Speaker 1: they're in a more difficult conference with everybody having very

504
00:26:23,200 --> 00:26:27,159
Speaker 1: clear and dangerous upside. For the most part, A and

505
00:26:27,320 --> 00:26:33,200
Speaker 1: M's starting point is still questions about the defense of consistency, second,

506
00:26:33,280 --> 00:26:34,399
Speaker 1: questions about more in.

507
00:26:34,400 --> 00:26:36,520
Speaker 2: The secondary, because there were some issues on.

508
00:26:36,520 --> 00:26:37,600
Speaker 1: The back and path rush.

509
00:26:37,760 --> 00:26:41,199
Speaker 2: Yeah, definitely some defensive issues on the back end of

510
00:26:41,240 --> 00:26:44,480
Speaker 2: that that they need to improve. Well, they need the

511
00:26:44,520 --> 00:26:46,760
Speaker 2: transfers that are coming in to jail quickly if they

512
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Speaker 2: want to improve.

513
00:26:48,160 --> 00:26:51,080
Speaker 1: Also previously on Texas A and M football A close

514
00:26:51,119 --> 00:26:53,800
Speaker 1: loss to USC. Do you know how difficult it is

515
00:26:53,840 --> 00:26:58,159
Speaker 1: to lose to USC closely in twenty twenty four? Do

516
00:26:58,200 --> 00:27:01,159
Speaker 1: you understand how much the odds are stacked against you

517
00:27:01,320 --> 00:27:04,960
Speaker 1: losing close to USC and Lincoln Riley in twenty twenty four?

518
00:27:05,680 --> 00:27:07,520
Speaker 1: I like, like in a vacuum. There's a lot to

519
00:27:07,520 --> 00:27:09,040
Speaker 1: like about an M. You're right, they're gonna run the

520
00:27:09,040 --> 00:27:10,840
Speaker 1: ball a lot. There's a ton to like about them.

521
00:27:11,160 --> 00:27:13,399
Speaker 1: I have them in the second tier, but I can't

522
00:27:13,440 --> 00:27:17,000
Speaker 1: have them upper part of the second tier because I've just.

523
00:27:16,920 --> 00:27:22,720
Speaker 2: Been here before. So you are basing this on what

524
00:27:22,840 --> 00:27:25,240
Speaker 2: amounts to your own boulevard of broken dreams.

525
00:27:27,560 --> 00:27:30,200
Speaker 1: If they were called East Texas State, I'd be like,

526
00:27:30,240 --> 00:27:31,880
Speaker 1: all right, guys, I could see ten and two.

527
00:27:32,000 --> 00:27:35,160
Speaker 2: Sure, So there's some baggage here, some emotional baggage.

528
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Speaker 1: I am somebody who brings my baggage with me everywhere

529
00:27:37,680 --> 00:27:41,760
Speaker 1: I go. Yes, So I have A and M second

530
00:27:41,800 --> 00:27:45,160
Speaker 1: to last in this the right there tier, because last

531
00:27:45,200 --> 00:27:49,040
Speaker 1: year it did seem, in like early November, that they

532
00:27:49,040 --> 00:27:51,480
Speaker 1: were right there if they could take care of business.

533
00:27:51,880 --> 00:27:53,680
Speaker 1: But that was it. Was a home game against Texas

534
00:27:53,680 --> 00:27:57,720
Speaker 1: correct that they were like in weird, sneaky position to

535
00:27:57,720 --> 00:28:00,359
Speaker 1: get into that SEC championship. I remember about that.

536
00:28:00,600 --> 00:28:02,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, br A and M was like that team that

537
00:28:02,440 --> 00:28:06,960
Speaker 2: was lurking that nobody wanted to acknowledge publicly, had a

538
00:28:07,000 --> 00:28:08,840
Speaker 2: realistic shot for a moment in time.

539
00:28:08,880 --> 00:28:13,280
Speaker 1: Absolutely, absolutely, yeah, So that's I got to see it before.

540
00:28:13,440 --> 00:28:15,000
Speaker 1: I fully believe it with A and L. But I

541
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Speaker 1: absolutely believe they belong in that tier.

542
00:28:18,800 --> 00:28:23,159
Speaker 2: LSU then LSU is I think a very very interesting

543
00:28:23,200 --> 00:28:25,439
Speaker 2: cases here. I mean, there is pressure on Brian Kelly.

544
00:28:27,040 --> 00:28:30,760
Speaker 2: That part goes without saying he knows there's pressure on

545
00:28:30,880 --> 00:28:33,600
Speaker 2: him to win. They went out, they got the nation's

546
00:28:33,600 --> 00:28:38,040
Speaker 2: top transfer hall. I do think the defense should be better.

547
00:28:38,080 --> 00:28:41,600
Speaker 2: The defense still was not fully up to snuff last season,

548
00:28:41,600 --> 00:28:44,280
Speaker 2: but it was still improved from where it had been

549
00:28:44,880 --> 00:28:48,080
Speaker 2: before Blake Baker got there, So there was I think

550
00:28:48,080 --> 00:28:50,120
Speaker 2: a marginal improvement on the defensive side of the ball.

551
00:28:50,200 --> 00:28:53,520
Speaker 2: They also had some injuries to contend with. My biggest

552
00:28:53,600 --> 00:28:55,760
Speaker 2: question with LSU and the reason that I was not

553
00:28:55,960 --> 00:29:02,760
Speaker 2: higher on LSU offensive line and running game. My fear

554
00:29:02,800 --> 00:29:05,240
Speaker 2: is that they end up being one dimensional and for

555
00:29:05,320 --> 00:29:07,880
Speaker 2: as fun as Garrett nus Meyer can be to watch

556
00:29:07,920 --> 00:29:10,239
Speaker 2: in that setting where it's just like, hey, Garrett, go

557
00:29:10,280 --> 00:29:12,720
Speaker 2: out there and throw it forty times and let's see

558
00:29:12,720 --> 00:29:14,920
Speaker 2: if we can win the game. He's good at that,

559
00:29:15,480 --> 00:29:17,520
Speaker 2: and he's a fun quarterback to watch. That's part of

560
00:29:17,520 --> 00:29:19,520
Speaker 2: why I think he's going to get drafted in top

561
00:29:19,560 --> 00:29:23,280
Speaker 2: fifteen in twenty twenty six draft. In order to be

562
00:29:23,320 --> 00:29:26,680
Speaker 2: a real contender for this thing, you can't be a

563
00:29:26,680 --> 00:29:29,520
Speaker 2: one trick pony. You just can't. They got to be

564
00:29:29,520 --> 00:29:31,120
Speaker 2: able to run the football a lot better than they

565
00:29:31,120 --> 00:29:33,680
Speaker 2: did last year. I like Cayden Durham. I think they

566
00:29:33,680 --> 00:29:36,080
Speaker 2: did a good job stocking up the running back room,

567
00:29:36,560 --> 00:29:38,280
Speaker 2: but they have to get better line play if they

568
00:29:38,320 --> 00:29:39,520
Speaker 2: want to win this thing, if they want to have

569
00:29:39,560 --> 00:29:43,000
Speaker 2: a realistic shot, because they cannot do it exclusively on

570
00:29:43,080 --> 00:29:44,240
Speaker 2: the arm of Garrett Usmeyer.

571
00:29:44,600 --> 00:29:46,520
Speaker 1: I'm with you. I think there are things that need

572
00:29:46,560 --> 00:29:48,960
Speaker 1: to be fixed. I like the talent level. I like

573
00:29:49,000 --> 00:29:52,040
Speaker 1: how active they were in the portal. I like Brian Kelly.

574
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Speaker 1: He has a track record of winning a ton of games.

575
00:29:54,440 --> 00:29:57,760
Speaker 2: As a person as a coach well.

576
00:29:58,080 --> 00:30:01,040
Speaker 1: Without saying goes without saying person terrific.

577
00:30:02,520 --> 00:30:04,200
Speaker 2: An authentic southern accent too.

578
00:30:04,320 --> 00:30:05,240
Speaker 1: Does he still have that?

579
00:30:06,280 --> 00:30:07,120
Speaker 2: I haven't heard it.

580
00:30:07,120 --> 00:30:10,840
Speaker 1: It's unintelligible now it's so deep. He's like, yeah, continues.

581
00:30:11,880 --> 00:30:15,880
Speaker 1: They win a bunch of games, they develop quarterbacks. Obviously,

582
00:30:16,280 --> 00:30:19,800
Speaker 1: they waste a Heisman season a couple of years ago. Yes,

583
00:30:19,960 --> 00:30:23,680
Speaker 1: obviously there are playmakers out wide this year. There are

584
00:30:23,720 --> 00:30:27,040
Speaker 1: playmakers on defense this year. Do they have the singularly

585
00:30:27,240 --> 00:30:30,800
Speaker 1: most talented defensive player in the country and the conference?

586
00:30:30,840 --> 00:30:34,280
Speaker 1: There are conversations you know about Harold Perkins and his

587
00:30:34,400 --> 00:30:37,800
Speaker 1: usage and his upside is very clearly the best defensive

588
00:30:37,800 --> 00:30:40,080
Speaker 1: player in the country if he comes back healthy. So

589
00:30:40,120 --> 00:30:42,440
Speaker 1: there's a lot to like about where LSU stands. I

590
00:30:42,440 --> 00:30:46,040
Speaker 1: don't hate the schedule. I like the continuity at quarterback.

591
00:30:46,400 --> 00:30:49,960
Speaker 1: If Garrett Nustmyer can be a little bit cleaner and

592
00:30:50,040 --> 00:30:53,560
Speaker 1: just situationally, red zone stuff, third down stuff like that,

593
00:30:53,720 --> 00:30:58,240
Speaker 1: to me, I need to see. But I like how

594
00:30:58,880 --> 00:31:04,040
Speaker 1: aged la if that makes sense, I like how I

595
00:31:04,120 --> 00:31:07,440
Speaker 1: like that there's upper classmen in a lot of important places.

596
00:31:07,760 --> 00:31:09,760
Speaker 1: You got to see on the offensive line, questionable beef,

597
00:31:09,840 --> 00:31:13,320
Speaker 1: of course, But I don't know. I feel like I

598
00:31:13,400 --> 00:31:16,040
Speaker 1: know where pop is coming from on the offense. I

599
00:31:16,120 --> 00:31:18,640
Speaker 1: like the upgrades at receiver and the depth at receiver.

600
00:31:19,360 --> 00:31:23,640
Speaker 1: It's weird to say that we're now saying like annually, Well,

601
00:31:23,640 --> 00:31:26,080
Speaker 1: if ls you can figure out defense, then they might

602
00:31:26,080 --> 00:31:29,040
Speaker 1: have a real shot at something special. But that's kind

603
00:31:29,080 --> 00:31:31,600
Speaker 1: of it. Like they made a nice step forward. They

604
00:31:31,640 --> 00:31:34,840
Speaker 1: took a nice step forward last year, but they need

605
00:31:34,880 --> 00:31:38,440
Speaker 1: to do something incredibly. They either have to be scoring

606
00:31:38,480 --> 00:31:44,200
Speaker 1: four points to drive or be silencing everybody defensively. Something

607
00:31:44,240 --> 00:31:46,680
Speaker 1: has to happen incredibly for LSU to take that next step,

608
00:31:46,760 --> 00:31:49,560
Speaker 1: which is why they're not on that first tier. That

609
00:31:49,680 --> 00:31:52,840
Speaker 1: to me is going to be the difference because they've

610
00:31:52,840 --> 00:31:55,520
Speaker 1: had those receivers and haven't gotten to that place. They've

611
00:31:55,520 --> 00:31:58,160
Speaker 1: had the Heisman quarterback a couple of years ago, and

612
00:31:58,360 --> 00:32:00,600
Speaker 1: Jayden Daniels didn't get to that place. They need to

613
00:32:00,640 --> 00:32:03,200
Speaker 1: win the shootouts or just not get into the shootouts

614
00:32:03,200 --> 00:32:06,800
Speaker 1: in the first place. But I think there's enough obvious

615
00:32:06,800 --> 00:32:08,840
Speaker 1: pop from this offense. I like Cayden Durham as a

616
00:32:08,880 --> 00:32:13,280
Speaker 1: running back. It's the running game specifically, yep, that that

617
00:32:13,360 --> 00:32:17,200
Speaker 1: needs to be figured out. So and I think the

618
00:32:17,240 --> 00:32:19,600
Speaker 1: schedule's fine. I think it's spaced out enough. You get

619
00:32:19,640 --> 00:32:21,880
Speaker 1: the annual buy before Bama. Like, I think it's fine.

620
00:32:21,960 --> 00:32:24,640
Speaker 2: The schedules really interesting because I think if you look

621
00:32:24,680 --> 00:32:27,880
Speaker 2: at this and just react to it again without doing

622
00:32:27,920 --> 00:32:29,800
Speaker 2: any of the research, you look at it and you say,

623
00:32:29,800 --> 00:32:32,240
Speaker 2: this is a murderer's row and it is not an

624
00:32:32,320 --> 00:32:33,640
Speaker 2: easy schedule.

625
00:32:33,640 --> 00:32:34,040
Speaker 1: I am not.

626
00:32:34,000 --> 00:32:38,040
Speaker 2: Implying that they open on the road against Clemson, so

627
00:32:38,160 --> 00:32:39,560
Speaker 2: this is gonna be tough.

628
00:32:40,080 --> 00:32:43,360
Speaker 1: Doesn't affect their secir SEC stuff.

629
00:32:44,080 --> 00:32:46,160
Speaker 2: But on the whole, yeah, this is I mean, there

630
00:32:46,360 --> 00:32:49,440
Speaker 2: there are some interesting road spots here, not just at Clemson,

631
00:32:49,480 --> 00:32:52,720
Speaker 2: but they're at Ole Miss. They're at Vandy, which you know,

632
00:32:53,520 --> 00:32:55,480
Speaker 2: house of horrors for at least one of these teams

633
00:32:55,520 --> 00:32:58,160
Speaker 2: last year at Bama. They're at Oklahoma.

634
00:32:58,200 --> 00:33:00,560
Speaker 1: These are not easy road games.

635
00:33:00,560 --> 00:33:04,400
Speaker 2: But I think if you consider the context here, context

636
00:33:04,440 --> 00:33:08,480
Speaker 2: is really important. Mississippi a bunch of questions about Old Miss.

637
00:33:08,520 --> 00:33:10,480
Speaker 2: I know you like them. I like them too. Yeah,

638
00:33:10,520 --> 00:33:14,040
Speaker 2: maybe we can debate that next South Carolina, like South

639
00:33:14,040 --> 00:33:18,000
Speaker 2: Carolin Love, Leonora Sellers, Nick Harber, Dylan Stewart. Sure games

640
00:33:18,000 --> 00:33:21,320
Speaker 2: in Baton Rouge, Yeah, I'm not sure about anybody else. Okay,

641
00:33:22,280 --> 00:33:24,880
Speaker 2: on the road at Alabama, maybe a quarterback doesn't hit

642
00:33:25,520 --> 00:33:27,320
Speaker 2: you know, there are real questions about all these teams

643
00:33:27,320 --> 00:33:29,600
Speaker 2: on here, and as you said, it's kind of spased

644
00:33:29,600 --> 00:33:33,160
Speaker 2: out pretty well. I don't hate it. I mean they've

645
00:33:33,160 --> 00:33:35,280
Speaker 2: got the talent in place. That's the thing with LSU.

646
00:33:35,320 --> 00:33:38,760
Speaker 2: The talent is there. The talent is there. I think

647
00:33:38,800 --> 00:33:41,400
Speaker 2: it's a function of can they capitalize on it. If

648
00:33:41,400 --> 00:33:43,280
Speaker 2: you listen to the last episode we did, you know

649
00:33:43,320 --> 00:33:45,680
Speaker 2: that I've got LSU as kind of like a tweener team.

650
00:33:46,200 --> 00:33:49,440
Speaker 2: I think LSU could end up being that school that

651
00:33:49,480 --> 00:33:55,600
Speaker 2: we are debating come this moment, five months down the line,

652
00:33:55,600 --> 00:33:59,360
Speaker 2: we're arguing who belongs in the playoff. LSU I think

653
00:33:59,400 --> 00:34:01,200
Speaker 2: is going to be on the cusp of that conversation.

654
00:34:01,520 --> 00:34:03,800
Speaker 1: And you, I mean, if you're having that conversation, whatever

655
00:34:03,840 --> 00:34:05,760
Speaker 1: happens in that Clemson game, you have to reward them

656
00:34:05,800 --> 00:34:08,680
Speaker 1: for scheduling it. And home and Home not a neutral site. Sure,

657
00:34:09,480 --> 00:34:15,040
Speaker 1: I believe Oklahoma gets Missoo the week before they get LSU,

658
00:34:15,239 --> 00:34:17,680
Speaker 1: and LSU I think has Western Kentucky. So there's a

659
00:34:17,719 --> 00:34:21,359
Speaker 1: couple of nice situational plays here for LSU. And think

660
00:34:21,360 --> 00:34:24,279
Speaker 1: about how much more you'd like so many of these

661
00:34:24,320 --> 00:34:27,719
Speaker 1: teams if they were starting. Garrett Nssmeyer. Not a perfect quarterback,

662
00:34:28,080 --> 00:34:31,080
Speaker 1: but like a good a great starting point.

663
00:34:31,200 --> 00:34:33,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, has NFL caliber talent.

664
00:34:33,560 --> 00:34:37,160
Speaker 1: Yeah for sure. So I'm in on LSU.

665
00:34:38,400 --> 00:34:39,800
Speaker 2: Who do you have after LSU?

666
00:34:39,840 --> 00:34:39,920
Speaker 1: So?

667
00:34:39,960 --> 00:34:41,560
Speaker 2: Now this is a tier down for you. You have your

668
00:34:41,600 --> 00:34:46,040
Speaker 2: Apex Predators, and you've got your next tier down underneath

669
00:34:46,040 --> 00:34:49,280
Speaker 2: your contenders. LSU is at the top of that tier.

670
00:34:50,360 --> 00:34:51,560
Speaker 2: Who's below LSU?

671
00:34:52,400 --> 00:34:54,719
Speaker 1: I have ale missed a lot higher than you do here.

672
00:34:55,680 --> 00:34:58,040
Speaker 2: Okay, you got a miss Who else do you have

673
00:34:58,080 --> 00:34:58,600
Speaker 2: in this tier?

674
00:34:59,800 --> 00:35:03,319
Speaker 1: So? So I've all missed right after LSU, and then

675
00:35:03,320 --> 00:35:07,000
Speaker 1: I have missoo, which is kind of a wild card

676
00:35:07,120 --> 00:35:10,319
Speaker 1: leap for me. Yeah, that's a big product of like

677
00:35:10,560 --> 00:35:13,760
Speaker 1: feeling good about some transfers, feeling good about the offensive

678
00:35:13,800 --> 00:35:16,480
Speaker 1: line coming together, feeling good about what their return on defense,

679
00:35:17,040 --> 00:35:19,400
Speaker 1: and buying in on Boprabula.

680
00:35:19,440 --> 00:35:21,160
Speaker 2: Okay, who else do you got then after Missou's or

681
00:35:21,200 --> 00:35:22,759
Speaker 2: anybody else in this tier? Uh?

682
00:35:23,000 --> 00:35:24,279
Speaker 1: Yeah, this is a big tier for me. This is

683
00:35:24,280 --> 00:35:27,440
Speaker 1: a six team tier. So then it's Florida. Okay, a

684
00:35:27,480 --> 00:35:30,600
Speaker 1: lot to like about Florida. Schedule is brutal.

685
00:35:30,760 --> 00:35:32,760
Speaker 2: We'll get into we'll get into all these teams. Just

686
00:35:32,880 --> 00:35:33,440
Speaker 2: tell me who.

687
00:35:33,320 --> 00:35:36,080
Speaker 1: Them are A and M is where I have them

688
00:35:36,160 --> 00:35:40,400
Speaker 1: right there after Florida. It's so low and low, and

689
00:35:40,440 --> 00:35:43,600
Speaker 1: then I have Auburn. Auburn, another team I just don't

690
00:35:43,640 --> 00:35:46,279
Speaker 1: trust enough. As much as a lot of signs about

691
00:35:46,320 --> 00:35:49,680
Speaker 1: that specific team are pointing to a good place, I

692
00:35:49,719 --> 00:35:53,120
Speaker 1: can't get their trust wise yet. So that's where I

693
00:35:53,200 --> 00:35:53,600
Speaker 1: come down.

694
00:35:54,680 --> 00:35:57,440
Speaker 2: So the old miss conversation, let's have that now. Sure

695
00:35:57,719 --> 00:36:00,479
Speaker 2: my issue is this, okay, And you know me because

696
00:36:00,480 --> 00:36:03,680
Speaker 2: we've done the show forever. I tend to be attracted

697
00:36:03,719 --> 00:36:07,400
Speaker 2: to the shiny objects. And I really like Austin Simmons,

698
00:36:07,400 --> 00:36:10,200
Speaker 2: and I really like the schedule, and that stands for

699
00:36:10,280 --> 00:36:15,520
Speaker 2: something for sure. But there is a lot new here. Yeah,

700
00:36:15,719 --> 00:36:17,560
Speaker 2: this is why I have all missed down in the

701
00:36:18,200 --> 00:36:21,880
Speaker 2: tier that I called understandable skepticism. We'll try to focus

702
00:36:21,880 --> 00:36:24,080
Speaker 2: on your tier system and not jump around too much,

703
00:36:24,080 --> 00:36:25,960
Speaker 2: because otherwise it's going to get confusing as hell for

704
00:36:26,040 --> 00:36:27,960
Speaker 2: people who are at the GM or walking and trying

705
00:36:27,960 --> 00:36:30,160
Speaker 2: to figure out what's going on. So we'll we'll stick

706
00:36:30,200 --> 00:36:35,239
Speaker 2: with yours as our baseline here. But this is why

707
00:36:35,239 --> 00:36:37,560
Speaker 2: I have all miss or wrung down. I still think

708
00:36:37,600 --> 00:36:40,719
Speaker 2: they're going to be really good. I also think their

709
00:36:40,800 --> 00:36:44,200
Speaker 2: skill talent is really good. I think they will have

710
00:36:44,239 --> 00:36:47,400
Speaker 2: a very good receiver room, and I do like Austin

711
00:36:47,440 --> 00:36:52,520
Speaker 2: Simmons a lot. I am just genuinely concerned about bigger

712
00:36:52,560 --> 00:36:54,520
Speaker 2: picture of the losses that they've got on this team

713
00:36:55,000 --> 00:36:58,120
Speaker 2: because there is so much new, totally reasonable, and they're

714
00:36:58,120 --> 00:37:02,040
Speaker 2: coming off of a great sea that I'm sure they

715
00:37:02,120 --> 00:37:05,920
Speaker 2: feel could have been playoff worthy, should have been playoff worthy.

716
00:37:06,040 --> 00:37:08,120
Speaker 2: It obviously did not make it into that game or

717
00:37:08,160 --> 00:37:11,640
Speaker 2: into any of those playoff games, right, But that's where

718
00:37:11,640 --> 00:37:14,560
Speaker 2: I'm at, where I'm at with Old Miss because of

719
00:37:14,600 --> 00:37:15,160
Speaker 2: the turnover.

720
00:37:16,400 --> 00:37:19,200
Speaker 1: Okay, I think that's all reasonable. This has been a

721
00:37:19,200 --> 00:37:21,719
Speaker 1: program that has sort of lived in this zone and

722
00:37:21,800 --> 00:37:24,960
Speaker 1: has succeeded in this zone of a lot of I mean,

723
00:37:25,000 --> 00:37:29,880
Speaker 1: what Lane Keivin's portal king right that it's really difficult

724
00:37:29,880 --> 00:37:33,880
Speaker 1: to question Lane Kiffen with regard to quarterback development. I

725
00:37:33,920 --> 00:37:37,520
Speaker 1: think Austin Simmons baseball player and lefty tie yeah, oh yeah,

726
00:37:37,560 --> 00:37:40,280
Speaker 1: I can't believe you didn't start the show with Austin

727
00:37:40,280 --> 00:37:45,040
Speaker 1: Simmons lefty and baseball player. That just scratches me where

728
00:37:45,040 --> 00:37:47,680
Speaker 1: I at. Anyway, they should have an explosive offense. They

729
00:37:47,680 --> 00:37:49,880
Speaker 1: went hard after receiver. It's going to be a new

730
00:37:49,920 --> 00:37:52,640
Speaker 1: offensive line working in a lot of new parts up

731
00:37:52,640 --> 00:37:55,960
Speaker 1: front once again. The secondary, I believe, is all or

732
00:37:56,000 --> 00:37:58,520
Speaker 1: mostly portal. I get all of the concerns about so

733
00:37:58,680 --> 00:38:00,719
Speaker 1: much new all at the same time.

734
00:38:01,840 --> 00:38:03,800
Speaker 2: I don't hate this schedule. Tie m h.

735
00:38:04,360 --> 00:38:07,239
Speaker 1: It's kind of a mixed bag. But if you break

736
00:38:07,280 --> 00:38:10,480
Speaker 1: it down with like, how many obviously difficult games here

737
00:38:10,520 --> 00:38:15,560
Speaker 1: are on the road? Is there one just at Georgia? Two?

738
00:38:15,800 --> 00:38:17,480
Speaker 1: I mean they have Georgia and Oklahoma and back to

739
00:38:17,520 --> 00:38:20,480
Speaker 1: back weeks. I wouldn't say obviously with Oklahoma yet, I

740
00:38:20,480 --> 00:38:22,799
Speaker 1: got to see where that offense is, right, I need

741
00:38:22,840 --> 00:38:25,400
Speaker 1: to see what that Oklahoma offensive line looks like. So

742
00:38:25,640 --> 00:38:28,520
Speaker 1: just in terms of like where Ole Miss is today,

743
00:38:30,400 --> 00:38:34,000
Speaker 1: one obviously very difficult game on the road, while getting

744
00:38:34,040 --> 00:38:38,560
Speaker 1: Florida and LSU both at home. No Texas, Nobama. So

745
00:38:38,600 --> 00:38:40,520
Speaker 1: you missed two out of the three on my first

746
00:38:40,520 --> 00:38:44,880
Speaker 1: tier contending tier, I'd like, I mean, maybe I'm just

747
00:38:44,960 --> 00:38:47,799
Speaker 1: too what would the opposite be of haunted? I'm too

748
00:38:47,880 --> 00:38:52,759
Speaker 1: warmed and too enchanted with very good usage. Tie those

749
00:38:52,760 --> 00:38:56,040
Speaker 1: six passes I saw Austin Simmons throw against I believe Georgia.

750
00:38:55,960 --> 00:38:57,680
Speaker 2: I am a wordsmife. You know this about it.

751
00:38:57,760 --> 00:39:01,600
Speaker 1: That's true, absolutely true, Obey Tomatoes. Sure. So the other

752
00:39:01,640 --> 00:39:05,040
Speaker 1: thing I like and I don't like is ole miss

753
00:39:05,280 --> 00:39:07,319
Speaker 1: in the way that they lost last year to both

754
00:39:07,320 --> 00:39:13,160
Speaker 1: Florida and Kentucky. They didn't lose twenty to three. Those

755
00:39:13,160 --> 00:39:16,239
Speaker 1: were winnable moments, the Kentucky game and the Florida game.

756
00:39:16,320 --> 00:39:19,680
Speaker 1: They lost those games in unfortunate ways and unfortunate errors.

757
00:39:20,239 --> 00:39:24,640
Speaker 1: But to see how close they were last year, this

758
00:39:24,680 --> 00:39:26,400
Speaker 1: team could go in one of two different directions, and

759
00:39:26,400 --> 00:39:28,919
Speaker 1: I'm going to choose to be optimistic about the best

760
00:39:28,960 --> 00:39:31,239
Speaker 1: of what I've seen from a coaching staff that has

761
00:39:31,280 --> 00:39:34,680
Speaker 1: stayed together and a core of this team that I

762
00:39:34,800 --> 00:39:36,560
Speaker 1: just I think I like a lot. So I'm going

763
00:39:36,560 --> 00:39:37,239
Speaker 1: to all miss here.

764
00:39:38,320 --> 00:39:42,480
Speaker 2: Okay, I thought about this, and so do. I don't

765
00:39:42,480 --> 00:39:45,799
Speaker 2: really have any problems with that logic. I was just

766
00:39:45,840 --> 00:39:47,719
Speaker 2: spooked by the amount that I think is new.

767
00:39:48,080 --> 00:39:48,520
Speaker 1: I hear you.

768
00:39:49,160 --> 00:39:51,520
Speaker 2: But I also think Lane Kiffen's done a hell of

769
00:39:51,560 --> 00:39:54,880
Speaker 2: a job with this team, with this program, and he

770
00:39:55,000 --> 00:39:57,759
Speaker 2: has been one of the few schools that reliably has

771
00:39:57,840 --> 00:40:00,560
Speaker 2: hit in the transfer portal. It feels like every year.

772
00:40:00,600 --> 00:40:03,160
Speaker 2: There's a collection of guys that Kiffen brings over and

773
00:40:03,160 --> 00:40:04,560
Speaker 2: he gets the most out of them, and he makes

774
00:40:04,560 --> 00:40:06,920
Speaker 2: the team better. And you could count the number of

775
00:40:07,000 --> 00:40:09,840
Speaker 2: teams that are in that class on one hand, maybe

776
00:40:09,840 --> 00:40:12,000
Speaker 2: not just in the SEC, but around college football that

777
00:40:12,120 --> 00:40:14,960
Speaker 2: consistently are able to do that. So I give him

778
00:40:14,960 --> 00:40:17,279
Speaker 2: a ton of credit for it, and I do think

779
00:40:17,320 --> 00:40:20,440
Speaker 2: he deserves I don't know, at least the benefit of

780
00:40:20,480 --> 00:40:23,080
Speaker 2: the doubt to some extent with what he's going to

781
00:40:23,120 --> 00:40:24,960
Speaker 2: do this year. It's just there is so much that

782
00:40:25,080 --> 00:40:25,520
Speaker 2: is leaving.

783
00:40:26,160 --> 00:40:29,640
Speaker 1: Yeah. Also, that LSU game was absolutely winnable for ole Miss.

784
00:40:29,640 --> 00:40:33,120
Speaker 1: Now again good and bad, good and bad. Yeah, this

785
00:40:33,239 --> 00:40:35,520
Speaker 1: is why I don't have them higher. And for me,

786
00:40:35,560 --> 00:40:40,000
Speaker 1: it's a straightforward argument. I get why you've got them

787
00:40:40,239 --> 00:40:41,920
Speaker 1: where you so what they look like in fifty to

788
00:40:41,960 --> 00:40:43,719
Speaker 1: fifty games puts you off a little bit.

789
00:40:45,560 --> 00:40:46,880
Speaker 2: Let's go to a different team.

790
00:40:46,960 --> 00:40:50,600
Speaker 1: Okay, No, I'm serious they did in those fifty moments.

791
00:40:50,640 --> 00:40:54,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, no, absolutely, I'm laughing because you're it's like

792
00:40:54,440 --> 00:40:55,359
Speaker 2: you're in my head here.

793
00:40:55,760 --> 00:40:57,240
Speaker 1: Okay, I have m a zoo next.

794
00:40:57,600 --> 00:40:59,800
Speaker 2: So here is the thing incredible schedule?

795
00:41:00,040 --> 00:41:03,200
Speaker 1: Yuh yeah, I mean, how do you discount that, right.

796
00:41:03,320 --> 00:41:05,640
Speaker 1: You can say that they are the ninth best team

797
00:41:05,680 --> 00:41:08,040
Speaker 1: but have the first best schedule. They have the best schedule, Like,

798
00:41:08,840 --> 00:41:10,320
Speaker 1: I don't know, you can't discount right about it.

799
00:41:10,400 --> 00:41:14,560
Speaker 2: I mean all this stuff is interrelated. Yeah, incredible schedule,

800
00:41:14,640 --> 00:41:19,399
Speaker 2: love it. Con back on defense, love it. I think

801
00:41:19,440 --> 00:41:22,719
Speaker 2: a lot of talent on the offensive side as well.

802
00:41:23,480 --> 00:41:23,719
Speaker 1: Yep.

803
00:41:24,160 --> 00:41:28,200
Speaker 2: The big question is how you feel about their new quarterback.

804
00:41:28,040 --> 00:41:33,880
Speaker 1: Run Bombshell Canning. I guess he is somebody. Bau Pribula also,

805
00:41:34,200 --> 00:41:39,000
Speaker 1: so my original point about everybody has substantial experience, Bo

806
00:41:39,080 --> 00:41:42,320
Speaker 1: Prabula does not have substantial exs. No, he doesn't.

807
00:41:42,840 --> 00:41:47,520
Speaker 2: Bo Prabulah was in effect the running quarterback for Penn

808
00:41:47,600 --> 00:41:51,799
Speaker 2: State last year. I like bowl a lot bow won at.

809
00:41:51,680 --> 00:41:52,680
Speaker 1: The high school level.

810
00:41:53,040 --> 00:41:56,719
Speaker 2: Bo came in and had true leadership qualities at the

811
00:41:56,760 --> 00:42:01,080
Speaker 2: college level. They just didn't use him to the full extent. Okay,

812
00:42:01,080 --> 00:42:02,759
Speaker 2: they used him as a bit of a change of pace,

813
00:42:02,800 --> 00:42:06,000
Speaker 2: sometimes annoyingly so, but he always was very, very good

814
00:42:06,000 --> 00:42:10,400
Speaker 2: in that role. Bau Prabula can run. I suspect we're

815
00:42:10,400 --> 00:42:12,480
Speaker 2: going to see some read option. I suspect we're going

816
00:42:12,520 --> 00:42:15,040
Speaker 2: to see some RPO stuff. I suspect they're going to

817
00:42:15,080 --> 00:42:18,520
Speaker 2: find ways to use Ba Prabula's skill set this year

818
00:42:18,520 --> 00:42:20,480
Speaker 2: on offense. I think that will be fun as hell

819
00:42:20,560 --> 00:42:24,359
Speaker 2: to watch. My question with Maszoo is if Bo has

820
00:42:24,400 --> 00:42:26,680
Speaker 2: to drop back and throw at thirty five times a game,

821
00:42:27,680 --> 00:42:30,040
Speaker 2: then what does that look like. We didn't see him

822
00:42:30,080 --> 00:42:32,880
Speaker 2: air it out a whole lot at Penn State. It

823
00:42:32,960 --> 00:42:38,319
Speaker 2: was mostly shorter underneath stuff, low risk type situations. This

824
00:42:38,400 --> 00:42:41,000
Speaker 2: is not to say he is a bad passer. This

825
00:42:41,080 --> 00:42:42,920
Speaker 2: is only to say we don't know how good of

826
00:42:42,920 --> 00:42:46,240
Speaker 2: a passer he can be. Agree, And so the upside

827
00:42:46,239 --> 00:42:48,360
Speaker 2: there I think remains to be seen. But the Mazoo

828
00:42:49,080 --> 00:42:51,839
Speaker 2: project as a whole, I think is flying very much

829
00:42:51,920 --> 00:42:55,000
Speaker 2: under the radar, and I think the schedule is just

830
00:42:55,040 --> 00:42:58,799
Speaker 2: going to amplify what their potential is here. They're over

831
00:42:58,920 --> 00:43:02,080
Speaker 2: under is seven and a half this year, which feels

832
00:43:02,080 --> 00:43:04,080
Speaker 2: really low to me, given the schedule and given what

833
00:43:04,160 --> 00:43:06,600
Speaker 2: I still think they have from a talent standpoint on hand.

834
00:43:06,719 --> 00:43:10,399
Speaker 2: So I'm I am bullish on Missoo. Remember my next

835
00:43:10,440 --> 00:43:13,719
Speaker 2: tier down was what I called X factors. Yeah, I've

836
00:43:13,719 --> 00:43:15,919
Speaker 2: got Maszoo squarely in that X factor tier.

837
00:43:17,440 --> 00:43:19,960
Speaker 1: I understand the seven and a half number. I just

838
00:43:19,960 --> 00:43:24,040
Speaker 1: think somebody's going to have to completely outpunch where they're

839
00:43:24,080 --> 00:43:29,400
Speaker 1: anticipated to be in July August. And so if the

840
00:43:29,480 --> 00:43:34,239
Speaker 1: offensive line works out with the new guys, that means

841
00:43:34,239 --> 00:43:35,759
Speaker 1: they're running the hell out of the ball with a

842
00:43:35,800 --> 00:43:38,640
Speaker 1: Mott Hardy, Yeah, we had one of the best transfers

843
00:43:38,680 --> 00:43:41,560
Speaker 1: to come in. That's the other this conference. Also, speaking

844
00:43:41,600 --> 00:43:44,280
Speaker 1: of fast food, colon questionable beef to have a running

845
00:43:44,280 --> 00:43:47,200
Speaker 1: back named Hardy in my fast food conference, Yeah, it

846
00:43:47,200 --> 00:43:50,520
Speaker 1: works out really well. They don't have that obvious number

847
00:43:50,520 --> 00:43:52,279
Speaker 1: one dude like they had with Luther Burden, though I

848
00:43:52,320 --> 00:43:54,360
Speaker 1: don't even know if he led the team in receiving

849
00:43:54,440 --> 00:43:56,879
Speaker 1: last year, right, and that was more a product of

850
00:43:57,000 --> 00:44:00,440
Speaker 1: not really taking as many shots it seemed Rady Cook

851
00:44:00,480 --> 00:44:04,000
Speaker 1: didn't last year for whatever reason. But continuity with Kirby

852
00:44:04,040 --> 00:44:08,319
Speaker 1: Moron calling the game for the offense, I just think

853
00:44:08,400 --> 00:44:11,359
Speaker 1: schedule it's so great that if they're a B plus team,

854
00:44:11,840 --> 00:44:13,000
Speaker 1: they can threaten double digits.

855
00:44:13,000 --> 00:44:15,960
Speaker 2: They can absolutely threaten double digits. And the shift on

856
00:44:16,040 --> 00:44:20,040
Speaker 2: offense I think is probably the most important thing. Like

857
00:44:20,160 --> 00:44:23,520
Speaker 2: how Perbula performs sure is going to stand for a

858
00:44:23,520 --> 00:44:25,560
Speaker 2: lot here, but how they shift the on They were

859
00:44:25,640 --> 00:44:29,319
Speaker 2: very past heavy last year, but short but short right,

860
00:44:29,520 --> 00:44:31,160
Speaker 2: And part of the reason for that was because they

861
00:44:31,280 --> 00:44:32,920
Speaker 2: lost a lot from the previous year and the running

862
00:44:32,920 --> 00:44:36,480
Speaker 2: game wasn't where it had been right in twenty twenty three.

863
00:44:37,280 --> 00:44:39,120
Speaker 2: But now this year I could see them shifting a

864
00:44:39,160 --> 00:44:41,480
Speaker 2: little bit more back in the direction of a run offense.

865
00:44:42,080 --> 00:44:44,160
Speaker 2: You've got a quarterback in Perbuela who can run a

866
00:44:44,160 --> 00:44:46,920
Speaker 2: lot of that readoption RPO stuff. I think they'll be

867
00:44:46,920 --> 00:44:48,680
Speaker 2: fun to watch, and I think the schedule gives them

868
00:44:48,680 --> 00:44:51,719
Speaker 2: a lot of upside. But again, I come back to

869
00:44:51,760 --> 00:44:52,280
Speaker 2: what I said.

870
00:44:52,120 --> 00:44:54,279
Speaker 1: At the top. I like Bo.

871
00:44:55,000 --> 00:44:56,719
Speaker 2: I've probably seen a lot more of Bo than most

872
00:44:56,760 --> 00:44:59,760
Speaker 2: of the people listening, so I tend to believe in him.

873
00:45:00,160 --> 00:45:02,879
Speaker 2: But it is another situation where it's a question of, Hey,

874
00:45:04,440 --> 00:45:06,680
Speaker 2: if the quarterback hits, we could have something here, but

875
00:45:06,840 --> 00:45:11,279
Speaker 2: if not, too many s a quarterback. Yeah, it's the

876
00:45:11,320 --> 00:45:12,480
Speaker 2: story of the SEC this year.

877
00:45:13,200 --> 00:45:15,360
Speaker 1: Yeah. And it's also by the way, I mean Brady

878
00:45:15,360 --> 00:45:17,040
Speaker 1: Cook had been beat up the past year or two,

879
00:45:17,600 --> 00:45:20,719
Speaker 1: we might be discounting just how good he was at

880
00:45:20,760 --> 00:45:21,280
Speaker 1: his best.

881
00:45:21,600 --> 00:45:23,640
Speaker 2: Oh, for totally, I completely.

882
00:45:23,400 --> 00:45:26,359
Speaker 1: Just sort of like has Stetson Bennett gotten better every

883
00:45:26,440 --> 00:45:30,760
Speaker 1: year since leaving Georgia. Maybe in the eyes of Georgia

884
00:45:30,800 --> 00:45:32,680
Speaker 1: fans in retrospect, he was, I mean, I think Georgia

885
00:45:32,680 --> 00:45:35,799
Speaker 1: fans loves Stets and Bennett. But yeah, that we're just

886
00:45:35,840 --> 00:45:40,040
Speaker 1: going to have a quarterback come in and approximate where

887
00:45:40,640 --> 00:45:43,239
Speaker 1: Brady Cook has been these past couple of seasons. That's

888
00:45:43,280 --> 00:45:46,600
Speaker 1: assuming a lot, and so that would be worrisome. Brady

889
00:45:46,640 --> 00:45:49,680
Speaker 1: Cook was really good, But yeah, I think the ceiling

890
00:45:49,719 --> 00:45:52,319
Speaker 1: of Bobrabula has them as a very competitive team.

891
00:45:52,480 --> 00:45:56,640
Speaker 2: So your top three teams were Bama, Texas and Georgia

892
00:45:57,360 --> 00:46:00,960
Speaker 2: Space Space. Then we have l see you all, miss

893
00:46:00,960 --> 00:46:03,719
Speaker 2: A Missoo, who he just talked about. The next one

894
00:46:03,800 --> 00:46:07,680
Speaker 2: up on your list is the Florida Gators. Correct, you've

895
00:46:07,680 --> 00:46:10,560
Speaker 2: got Florida, I guess seventh in the SEC. I've got

896
00:46:10,640 --> 00:46:14,560
Speaker 2: him sixth. So we're simpatico at least with respect to

897
00:46:14,600 --> 00:46:17,080
Speaker 2: the Gators. The first thing that I'll call out, and

898
00:46:17,120 --> 00:46:19,759
Speaker 2: it jumps off the page at you because we've done

899
00:46:20,200 --> 00:46:22,719
Speaker 2: too many of these previews to not recognize stuff like this.

900
00:46:24,160 --> 00:46:28,799
Speaker 2: It's just amazing the tone shift, the tone shift that

901
00:46:28,840 --> 00:46:33,799
Speaker 2: takes place when you find your quarterback totally in Florida's case,

902
00:46:33,880 --> 00:46:37,520
Speaker 2: it may have altered the entire trajectory of the program

903
00:46:38,000 --> 00:46:43,880
Speaker 2: and Billy Napier's stay in Gainesville. Finding Dj Lagway feeling

904
00:46:43,920 --> 00:46:47,279
Speaker 2: like he's the dude, somebody you can build around, that's

905
00:46:47,400 --> 00:46:49,960
Speaker 2: all very very encouraging. Now I did see that he's

906
00:46:50,000 --> 00:46:53,040
Speaker 2: apparently nicked up with a quote lower leg injury.

907
00:46:53,880 --> 00:46:54,799
Speaker 1: Who among us times?

908
00:46:54,880 --> 00:46:56,520
Speaker 2: I know, I watched a video from our friend Gator

909
00:46:56,600 --> 00:46:59,120
Speaker 2: David Gators breakdown. Who was He was not reporting this,

910
00:46:59,200 --> 00:47:02,600
Speaker 2: he was just reacting to more news that Okay, maybe

911
00:47:02,680 --> 00:47:05,480
Speaker 2: Dj Lagways banged up. It doesn't seem like it's going

912
00:47:05,560 --> 00:47:07,319
Speaker 2: to be any kind of serious thing. But of course

913
00:47:07,360 --> 00:47:10,080
Speaker 2: there were some like arm concerns, and now there's this,

914
00:47:10,280 --> 00:47:12,440
Speaker 2: and I think you would like a little bit more

915
00:47:12,480 --> 00:47:15,640
Speaker 2: certainty about health going into a new season, about your

916
00:47:15,680 --> 00:47:19,400
Speaker 2: store quarterback. But alas for sure, they have him, they

917
00:47:19,440 --> 00:47:21,480
Speaker 2: have a lot of confidence in him. He does need

918
00:47:21,520 --> 00:47:23,239
Speaker 2: to clean some stuff up. He is certainly not a

919
00:47:23,239 --> 00:47:26,200
Speaker 2: perfect product. As Bill Connelly said, the stuff that he

920
00:47:26,320 --> 00:47:29,880
Speaker 2: tended to miss on last year very common for a

921
00:47:29,880 --> 00:47:33,520
Speaker 2: true freshman. It wasn't like there was a glaring waitness.

922
00:47:33,560 --> 00:47:35,560
Speaker 2: He's got all the talent in the world. He just

923
00:47:36,080 --> 00:47:38,920
Speaker 2: needs a little bit more reps. The course of the

924
00:47:38,920 --> 00:47:42,680
Speaker 2: program feels like it's been altered. There's a lot back.

925
00:47:43,520 --> 00:47:46,440
Speaker 2: I'm really encouraged by what I see on both sides

926
00:47:46,560 --> 00:47:49,080
Speaker 2: of the line of scrimmage, both offensive and defensive line.

927
00:47:49,120 --> 00:47:53,600
Speaker 2: The schedule is its own conversation, but it definitely feels

928
00:47:53,600 --> 00:47:56,400
Speaker 2: to me like this is at least a better Floria

929
00:47:56,480 --> 00:47:58,280
Speaker 2: the team than we've seen in the last two years.

930
00:47:58,880 --> 00:48:02,720
Speaker 2: It feels like they're ending in a good direction separate

931
00:48:02,760 --> 00:48:05,440
Speaker 2: from the schedule. And if you are a believer in

932
00:48:05,520 --> 00:48:08,240
Speaker 2: DJ lagway, and if you're a believer in this defense,

933
00:48:09,360 --> 00:48:11,680
Speaker 2: then perhaps there is a little bit more upward mobility

934
00:48:11,680 --> 00:48:15,120
Speaker 2: for Florida than maybe we would assume here what we're

935
00:48:15,120 --> 00:48:16,359
Speaker 2: recording this at the end of July.

936
00:48:17,680 --> 00:48:20,919
Speaker 1: Yeah, there are thin spots on this Florida team, maybe

937
00:48:20,920 --> 00:48:23,680
Speaker 1: the inside of their defensive line, a couple questions along

938
00:48:23,680 --> 00:48:25,520
Speaker 1: the offensive line, but buy and large in a good

939
00:48:25,520 --> 00:48:27,480
Speaker 1: place up front. I think they're gonna be good at

940
00:48:27,520 --> 00:48:29,520
Speaker 1: running back. I think there's a lot of upside at receiver,

941
00:48:29,640 --> 00:48:30,839
Speaker 1: especially when you look at the youth.

942
00:48:30,920 --> 00:48:34,520
Speaker 2: Yeah. I like how you say the youth, This is

943
00:48:34,520 --> 00:48:36,359
Speaker 2: how you know you're in your forties continue.

944
00:48:36,719 --> 00:48:39,760
Speaker 1: We'll see on health in the secondary, but there's absolute

945
00:48:39,840 --> 00:48:43,000
Speaker 1: upside there. Linebackers should be very good. I think they've

946
00:48:43,000 --> 00:48:45,680
Speaker 1: answered a lot of questions. I think Billy Napier has

947
00:48:45,719 --> 00:48:50,520
Speaker 1: steadied this ship well enough. That said, I feel good

948
00:48:50,560 --> 00:48:54,560
Speaker 1: about Florida in a vacuum, but inside that vacuum does

949
00:48:54,600 --> 00:48:59,600
Speaker 1: not exist. The following schedule at LSU and at Miami

950
00:49:00,040 --> 00:49:03,880
Speaker 1: back to back. In September, Texas and at Texas A

951
00:49:03,920 --> 00:49:08,560
Speaker 1: and m back to back. I know Georgia obviously in

952
00:49:08,680 --> 00:49:13,040
Speaker 1: Jacksonville at ole Miss and Tennessee back to back. So sorry,

953
00:49:13,040 --> 00:49:15,640
Speaker 1: there's an at Kentucky app between George and ole Miss

954
00:49:16,280 --> 00:49:19,040
Speaker 1: and then Florida State, who is legitimately threatening to win

955
00:49:19,080 --> 00:49:21,440
Speaker 1: more than two games this season. There's just a lot

956
00:49:21,480 --> 00:49:25,400
Speaker 1: of meat on that schedule bone and that has me

957
00:49:25,400 --> 00:49:26,719
Speaker 1: a little if I'm going to say, like, I like

958
00:49:26,719 --> 00:49:29,840
Speaker 1: ole Miss because there's only one obviously threatening game away

959
00:49:29,840 --> 00:49:33,160
Speaker 1: from home. Yeah, I use that terminology because George is

960
00:49:33,200 --> 00:49:35,200
Speaker 1: not technically a road game, but it's not as comfortable

961
00:49:35,200 --> 00:49:38,120
Speaker 1: as playing in the swamp. So I think Florida is

962
00:49:38,160 --> 00:49:41,840
Speaker 1: really good. I think the upside of Florida is pretty great.

963
00:49:42,200 --> 00:49:44,920
Speaker 1: They were an explosive passing team last year a year

964
00:49:44,920 --> 00:49:48,080
Speaker 1: ahead of schedule. To me, I'm in on Florida taking

965
00:49:48,160 --> 00:49:51,480
Speaker 1: the next step a lot of the time. But is

966
00:49:51,480 --> 00:49:53,799
Speaker 1: that the difference between nine and three and eight four,

967
00:49:53,960 --> 00:49:55,520
Speaker 1: ten and two and eight and four, ten and two

968
00:49:55,520 --> 00:49:58,200
Speaker 1: and nine and three. That's the big question to me

969
00:49:58,400 --> 00:50:02,560
Speaker 1: when you have whatever you think Florida State is fine,

970
00:50:03,000 --> 00:50:07,520
Speaker 1: Florida State and Miami occupying spots on this schedule, I

971
00:50:07,520 --> 00:50:10,560
Speaker 1: mean the rival ahead or not ahead, but book ending, Yeah,

972
00:50:10,600 --> 00:50:12,520
Speaker 1: an sec schedule, it's just a lot.

973
00:50:12,600 --> 00:50:16,520
Speaker 2: It's absolutely a lot. If you gave Missouri's schedule to Florida,

974
00:50:16,560 --> 00:50:17,520
Speaker 2: how many games would they win?

975
00:50:17,880 --> 00:50:19,960
Speaker 1: Oh, they're ten and two, eleven and one type team.

976
00:50:20,160 --> 00:50:22,839
Speaker 2: If you give then a second look to the over

977
00:50:22,920 --> 00:50:25,760
Speaker 2: under which Vegas has said at seven and a half

978
00:50:25,760 --> 00:50:29,160
Speaker 2: for Florida, it totally makes sense. I think it's scheduled dependent.

979
00:50:29,360 --> 00:50:31,359
Speaker 2: I think this is a much better team. I think

980
00:50:31,360 --> 00:50:33,840
Speaker 2: there's a lot to be excited about they They definitely

981
00:50:33,880 --> 00:50:36,160
Speaker 2: got better with some of the new faces that are

982
00:50:36,160 --> 00:50:38,440
Speaker 2: coming in that we can probably go through on one

983
00:50:38,440 --> 00:50:40,359
Speaker 2: of our next two episodes, and we talk a little

984
00:50:40,360 --> 00:50:43,719
Speaker 2: bit more detail here about Florida. I like this team

985
00:50:43,760 --> 00:50:45,839
Speaker 2: a lot. I just think the schedule stands in the way. Now.

986
00:50:45,880 --> 00:50:49,080
Speaker 2: If they go, you know, and take a quantum leap forward,

987
00:50:50,680 --> 00:50:54,000
Speaker 2: then then suddenly it changes the whole conversation in the SEC.

988
00:50:54,640 --> 00:50:56,799
Speaker 2: It's not just a Florida thing. Then it's suddenly we're

989
00:50:56,880 --> 00:50:59,359
Speaker 2: kind of nuking these tiers all together and starting over.

990
00:50:59,440 --> 00:51:02,360
Speaker 2: But that's where I'm at with Florida. I tend to

991
00:51:02,400 --> 00:51:04,160
Speaker 2: agree with you with where you have them. You've got

992
00:51:04,160 --> 00:51:07,360
Speaker 2: them seven again, I have them six. We talked about

993
00:51:07,400 --> 00:51:10,160
Speaker 2: A and M. They are next up for you. I've

994
00:51:10,160 --> 00:51:13,080
Speaker 2: circled them along with Old Miss. Those seem to be

995
00:51:13,120 --> 00:51:15,920
Speaker 2: two teams that we have a pretty big disagreement on.

996
00:51:17,080 --> 00:51:20,320
Speaker 2: Talk me through the Auburn selection next, though, because Auburn's

997
00:51:20,320 --> 00:51:24,080
Speaker 2: another one that I've got. I've got them fifth from

998
00:51:24,120 --> 00:51:27,799
Speaker 2: the bottom in the SEC. And it's not because I

999
00:51:27,880 --> 00:51:30,759
Speaker 2: disliked the team. Again, this tier for me was one

1000
00:51:30,760 --> 00:51:35,080
Speaker 2: that I called skepticism. Sure and all I jotted down,

1001
00:51:35,080 --> 00:51:39,080
Speaker 2: next to Auburn, how high are we on Jackson Arnold?

1002
00:51:40,120 --> 00:51:44,480
Speaker 2: How high should we be on Jackson Arnold? Because Auburn

1003
00:51:44,520 --> 00:51:46,680
Speaker 2: went out there, they also did a ton of work

1004
00:51:46,680 --> 00:51:51,279
Speaker 2: in the portal. It's clear they have skill talent, but

1005
00:51:51,360 --> 00:51:53,279
Speaker 2: I feel like so much of this comes down to

1006
00:51:53,360 --> 00:51:56,360
Speaker 2: Jackson Arnold and how well he does or doesn't perform.

1007
00:51:57,480 --> 00:51:59,800
Speaker 2: Another situation where you're looking at the quarterback with a

1008
00:51:59,800 --> 00:52:00,720
Speaker 2: big gold capital.

1009
00:52:00,760 --> 00:52:05,000
Speaker 1: If Jackson Arnold at his best is very talented and

1010
00:52:05,040 --> 00:52:08,719
Speaker 1: capable of big things, Jackson Arnold spent too much of

1011
00:52:08,760 --> 00:52:13,120
Speaker 1: his time at Oklahoma in a bad situation offensive line wise,

1012
00:52:13,239 --> 00:52:18,000
Speaker 1: receiver health wise, and became mistake prone, tried to force

1013
00:52:18,040 --> 00:52:19,879
Speaker 1: a little bit too much, or was just running for

1014
00:52:19,920 --> 00:52:22,279
Speaker 1: his life, and that forced mistake.

1015
00:52:22,000 --> 00:52:24,239
Speaker 2: By the way, was a better runner in some of

1016
00:52:24,239 --> 00:52:25,960
Speaker 2: those games that I think a lot of people expect,

1017
00:52:26,000 --> 00:52:27,680
Speaker 2: like the Bama games. One that comes to mind. I

1018
00:52:27,719 --> 00:52:30,440
Speaker 2: was looking through some old clips like he was. They

1019
00:52:30,560 --> 00:52:31,919
Speaker 2: ran him a lot in that win.

1020
00:52:33,160 --> 00:52:35,799
Speaker 1: I think you need to believe in Auburn as a

1021
00:52:35,960 --> 00:52:39,920
Speaker 1: safe haven for Jackson Arnold, that this is a comfortable

1022
00:52:40,000 --> 00:52:43,040
Speaker 1: landing spot because of the system, because the talent around

1023
00:52:43,080 --> 00:52:45,680
Speaker 1: him the help that his own defense should be able

1024
00:52:45,719 --> 00:52:50,680
Speaker 1: to give Jackson Arnold and his pursuits on offense, That

1025
00:52:50,680 --> 00:52:52,840
Speaker 1: that would be the reason you feel good about Auburn

1026
00:52:52,880 --> 00:52:57,040
Speaker 1: moving forward. Because the obvious talent at receiver is higher

1027
00:52:57,160 --> 00:53:00,640
Speaker 1: end right now at Auburn than it was at Oklahoma. Yeah,

1028
00:53:00,680 --> 00:53:05,279
Speaker 1: the offensive line is definitely healthier, definitely has a much

1029
00:53:05,320 --> 00:53:08,160
Speaker 1: higher floor. I don't know if I love some of them.

1030
00:53:08,160 --> 00:53:11,600
Speaker 1: I think they brought in a USC right tackle who

1031
00:53:11,760 --> 00:53:14,399
Speaker 1: maybe I'm confusing him with somebody else. I don't think

1032
00:53:14,440 --> 00:53:16,799
Speaker 1: he was a strong point for this USC offensive line

1033
00:53:16,880 --> 00:53:17,239
Speaker 1: last year.

1034
00:53:17,239 --> 00:53:18,280
Speaker 2: And Mason Murphy.

1035
00:53:18,719 --> 00:53:21,520
Speaker 1: Mason Murphy, Yeah, he was not. The USC offensive line

1036
00:53:21,520 --> 00:53:23,480
Speaker 1: improved last year for sure, but I don't think he

1037
00:53:23,640 --> 00:53:27,319
Speaker 1: was an anchor of that improvement. Jarquez Hunter gone, So

1038
00:53:27,360 --> 00:53:30,120
Speaker 1: we'll see where they get pop in the backfield. I

1039
00:53:30,120 --> 00:53:32,000
Speaker 1: think they will. I think this offense will be fine.

1040
00:53:32,040 --> 00:53:34,200
Speaker 1: They lost a lot of games in stupid ways that

1041
00:53:34,400 --> 00:53:36,960
Speaker 1: if they can just flip most of the way that

1042
00:53:37,000 --> 00:53:40,720
Speaker 1: they finish games or don't finish games, they should be fine.

1043
00:53:41,480 --> 00:53:43,759
Speaker 1: I think the defense is in a relatively good place

1044
00:53:43,760 --> 00:53:45,640
Speaker 1: in terms of the guys coming in and the guys

1045
00:53:45,640 --> 00:53:48,320
Speaker 1: that are back, so I think they're on solid ground.

1046
00:53:49,680 --> 00:53:52,280
Speaker 1: I just to me, it is a fifty to fifty

1047
00:53:52,320 --> 00:53:57,120
Speaker 1: games plus a quarterback who needs to sort of shed

1048
00:53:57,200 --> 00:54:01,280
Speaker 1: his wild card skin to keep my snake analogies going

1049
00:54:01,760 --> 00:54:05,120
Speaker 1: that have me bottom of the second tier but squarely

1050
00:54:05,160 --> 00:54:07,879
Speaker 1: in that second tier of like could make a serious move.

1051
00:54:08,040 --> 00:54:10,280
Speaker 2: I'm worried that the end of the season broke Jackson

1052
00:54:10,360 --> 00:54:14,239
Speaker 2: Arnold last year at Oklahomaka, and sometimes a change of

1053
00:54:14,239 --> 00:54:15,399
Speaker 2: scenery can help with that.

1054
00:54:16,640 --> 00:54:18,440
Speaker 1: But I agree we weren't the only.

1055
00:54:18,320 --> 00:54:20,400
Speaker 2: Ones talking about it, Dan. There are a lot of

1056
00:54:20,400 --> 00:54:24,160
Speaker 2: people talking like this guy done. You know, does he

1057
00:54:24,200 --> 00:54:26,640
Speaker 2: have the yips that he can't get over at this

1058
00:54:26,680 --> 00:54:28,560
Speaker 2: point because it just seemed like it all fell apart

1059
00:54:28,600 --> 00:54:30,719
Speaker 2: for him. But I think you're one hundred percent right

1060
00:54:30,760 --> 00:54:33,560
Speaker 2: on the Auburn side. What's interesting when you look at

1061
00:54:33,560 --> 00:54:37,319
Speaker 2: this team, there was a lot of production last year.

1062
00:54:38,200 --> 00:54:41,279
Speaker 2: This wasn't necessarily a bad team. They just had a

1063
00:54:41,280 --> 00:54:45,279
Speaker 2: lot of difficulty converting that into something, especially in the

1064
00:54:45,320 --> 00:54:47,319
Speaker 2: red zone where they were one of the worst teams

1065
00:54:47,360 --> 00:54:47,760
Speaker 2: in the country.

1066
00:54:47,800 --> 00:54:49,400
Speaker 1: Offles, just backbreaking mistakes.

1067
00:54:49,480 --> 00:54:52,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, so there are pieces there that I think you

1068
00:54:52,960 --> 00:54:57,480
Speaker 2: can look at in retrospect and feel good about. It's

1069
00:54:57,520 --> 00:55:00,520
Speaker 2: just a matter of how do you then what is it?

1070
00:55:00,520 --> 00:55:04,200
Speaker 2: From a culture standpoint, a scheme standpoint, a personnel standpoint.

1071
00:55:05,160 --> 00:55:08,840
Speaker 2: It's never one right answer, but there is some missing

1072
00:55:09,040 --> 00:55:14,400
Speaker 2: ingredient that they need to add to this Auburn stew

1073
00:55:14,440 --> 00:55:16,800
Speaker 2: in twenty twenty five. That can get them over that hump.

1074
00:55:17,360 --> 00:55:18,759
Speaker 1: And by the way, if you think the end of

1075
00:55:18,840 --> 00:55:21,520
Speaker 1: last year broke Jackson Arnold and maybe he's been rebuilt,

1076
00:55:21,719 --> 00:55:25,640
Speaker 1: Maybe he's the six million dollar man. Sure the construction

1077
00:55:25,719 --> 00:55:29,279
Speaker 1: has to be complete because the beginning the first half

1078
00:55:29,280 --> 00:55:32,399
Speaker 1: of their schedule this year for Auburn it's at Baylor

1079
00:55:32,480 --> 00:55:35,120
Speaker 1: on a Friday night, skip a couple weeks at Oklahoma

1080
00:55:35,120 --> 00:55:36,920
Speaker 1: and at A and M and back to back weeks,

1081
00:55:37,239 --> 00:55:40,000
Speaker 1: a bye before playing Georgia and then Miszoo in back

1082
00:55:40,040 --> 00:55:42,279
Speaker 1: to back weeks. Albeit both of those are at home

1083
00:55:42,560 --> 00:55:45,680
Speaker 1: in a difficult environment. Of course, they do have the

1084
00:55:45,719 --> 00:55:49,040
Speaker 1: Iron Bowl at home. They have a revenge spot at

1085
00:55:49,160 --> 00:55:51,879
Speaker 1: Vanderbilt because that's a thing now in twenty twenty five,

1086
00:55:52,800 --> 00:55:56,360
Speaker 1: to get revenge on Vanderbilt for beating them in twenty

1087
00:55:56,400 --> 00:55:58,680
Speaker 1: twenty four. They need to be buttoned up and ready,

1088
00:55:58,880 --> 00:56:01,320
Speaker 1: or else the season could get out of hand quickly.

1089
00:56:01,440 --> 00:56:04,120
Speaker 1: And if Jacksonarl isn't the answer, I think it's Ashton

1090
00:56:04,160 --> 00:56:07,799
Speaker 1: Daniels who came in from Stanford. I just they need

1091
00:56:07,840 --> 00:56:11,040
Speaker 1: to be ready immediately or else the year could go sideways.

1092
00:56:11,080 --> 00:56:12,120
Speaker 1: That's all I think.

1093
00:56:11,960 --> 00:56:13,799
Speaker 2: It's eventually going to be deuced night. But that's just

1094
00:56:13,840 --> 00:56:16,839
Speaker 2: me personally, Okay, vamping a little bit here.

1095
00:56:17,040 --> 00:56:19,000
Speaker 1: Well eventually this year, next year or whatever.

1096
00:56:19,080 --> 00:56:20,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I like doucenight a lot.

1097
00:56:21,120 --> 00:56:24,680
Speaker 1: Okay, all right, late flip freshman incoming freshman.

1098
00:56:24,760 --> 00:56:28,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, what's your next tier down?

1099
00:56:28,120 --> 00:56:32,560
Speaker 1: Then my next tier down after Auburn concludes the right

1100
00:56:32,600 --> 00:56:36,080
Speaker 1: there tier is the taipan in the toilet. It's an

1101
00:56:36,320 --> 00:56:40,720
Speaker 1: indigenous snake to Australia, very venomous. I've got Oklahoma, Tennessee,

1102
00:56:40,760 --> 00:56:44,880
Speaker 1: South Carolina and Oklahoma and Tennessee are on the strength

1103
00:56:44,880 --> 00:56:48,000
Speaker 1: of their defenses. Oklahoma seems like they have more offensive

1104
00:56:48,080 --> 00:56:51,040
Speaker 1: upside in the moment if everything works out with John

1105
00:56:51,080 --> 00:56:55,279
Speaker 1: Myttier and was it Ben Rbuckle the offensive coordinator. And

1106
00:56:55,480 --> 00:57:02,080
Speaker 1: South Carolina just has the single scariest thrower runner, playmaker,

1107
00:57:02,200 --> 00:57:04,960
Speaker 1: take your pick in terms of a known quantity at quarterback,

1108
00:57:05,280 --> 00:57:07,360
Speaker 1: even though it's just kind of him and Dylan Stewart

1109
00:57:07,400 --> 00:57:10,879
Speaker 1: in this moment. In terms of like obviously threatening all

1110
00:57:10,920 --> 00:57:13,440
Speaker 1: the time. Yeah, I had to cart them in that

1111
00:57:13,480 --> 00:57:16,920
Speaker 1: tick harbor. But no, he's not obviously threatening at all times.

1112
00:57:17,240 --> 00:57:19,920
Speaker 1: Well no, No, he's throwing like a two catches for

1113
00:57:19,960 --> 00:57:22,680
Speaker 1: eighteen yards game. Yes, the upside of Nick Harber obviously

1114
00:57:22,800 --> 00:57:27,000
Speaker 1: is tantalizing the receiver who has legit track speed, But

1115
00:57:29,320 --> 00:57:32,120
Speaker 1: it's an overhaul. It's a complete overhaul, and Shane Biemer

1116
00:57:32,160 --> 00:57:34,680
Speaker 1: has not proven it year in and year out. I really

1117
00:57:34,760 --> 00:57:37,240
Speaker 1: enjoyed the best of what South Carolina has been recently.

1118
00:57:37,760 --> 00:57:40,360
Speaker 1: But that's why they're in that third tier that they

1119
00:57:40,400 --> 00:57:42,600
Speaker 1: lose so many of those guys and have not proven

1120
00:57:42,880 --> 00:57:46,160
Speaker 1: an ability to keep it up consistently.

1121
00:57:47,720 --> 00:57:50,120
Speaker 2: The Oklahoma So I had Oklahoma one rung up, I

1122
00:57:50,160 --> 00:57:52,440
Speaker 2: have them six in the SEC. You're a little bit

1123
00:57:52,440 --> 00:57:54,480
Speaker 2: lower on him, but we're around the same m HM.

1124
00:57:55,080 --> 00:58:00,400
Speaker 2: Brutal schedule. Yes, a lot of steam on the two

1125
00:58:00,440 --> 00:58:04,160
Speaker 2: punch of John Mattier Ben r Buckle coming down from Wazoo.

1126
00:58:06,920 --> 00:58:09,160
Speaker 2: John Mattier played a Mountain West schedule last year.

1127
00:58:09,800 --> 00:58:10,480
Speaker 1: Yuess he did.

1128
00:58:12,040 --> 00:58:14,320
Speaker 2: A Mault West schedule. I think he is tantalizing. I

1129
00:58:14,320 --> 00:58:17,200
Speaker 2: think the best of him is really exciting. I don't

1130
00:58:17,240 --> 00:58:20,280
Speaker 2: know what kind of a pastor John Attire is like.

1131
00:58:20,320 --> 00:58:23,080
Speaker 2: I've seen clips and I like Ben ar Buckle. I

1132
00:58:23,080 --> 00:58:24,520
Speaker 2: think it'll be fine. I think he's better than what

1133
00:58:24,560 --> 00:58:28,960
Speaker 2: they had I don't think this is a certainty that

1134
00:58:28,960 --> 00:58:31,520
Speaker 2: it's gonna work. You know, people have John Matier on

1135
00:58:31,560 --> 00:58:35,560
Speaker 2: their Heisman short lists and things of that nature. There's

1136
00:58:35,600 --> 00:58:39,400
Speaker 2: no question that Oklahoma got better via the portal. Brent Vambles, Yeah,

1137
00:58:39,400 --> 00:58:44,040
Speaker 2: Brand Vannibles understood the assignment. I am. I am less

1138
00:58:44,040 --> 00:58:47,439
Speaker 2: willing than I expected to just take it at face

1139
00:58:47,520 --> 00:58:49,479
Speaker 2: value that, oh, John Matier is gonna hit John Metier

1140
00:58:49,560 --> 00:58:51,440
Speaker 2: is going to be outstanding. I don't know if we

1141
00:58:51,480 --> 00:58:54,200
Speaker 2: can say that. Dan. I think the best of him

1142
00:58:54,240 --> 00:58:57,120
Speaker 2: is really exciting. I think they can run with him,

1143
00:58:57,520 --> 00:58:59,800
Speaker 2: and he is a very very good runner with the football,

1144
00:59:00,000 --> 00:59:02,920
Speaker 2: an exciting player. I worry a little bit about hero

1145
00:59:03,080 --> 00:59:08,840
Speaker 2: ball with him. Okay, and the bigger picture for Oklahoma

1146
00:59:09,120 --> 00:59:12,240
Speaker 2: is they need to hit on a lot of transfers

1147
00:59:12,240 --> 00:59:15,040
Speaker 2: and a lot of new faces in order for this

1148
00:59:15,120 --> 00:59:18,040
Speaker 2: thing to work. The main reason actually that I have

1149
00:59:18,120 --> 00:59:22,160
Speaker 2: Oklahoma in this X factor tier for me personally is

1150
00:59:22,200 --> 00:59:24,680
Speaker 2: because of the schedule. And it's not because I think

1151
00:59:24,680 --> 00:59:28,280
Speaker 2: they're necessarily gonna do wonders against it. But they have

1152
00:59:28,400 --> 00:59:30,680
Speaker 2: so much AMO on this thing that if they pull

1153
00:59:30,720 --> 00:59:34,320
Speaker 2: an upset, if they pull two upsets, suddenly it changes

1154
00:59:34,400 --> 00:59:37,560
Speaker 2: the whole narrative in the conference. So I'm not necessarily

1155
00:59:37,600 --> 00:59:39,760
Speaker 2: looking at Oklahoma as some people have them as like

1156
00:59:39,800 --> 00:59:43,240
Speaker 2: a playoff contender. I want whatever drugs you've got. If

1157
00:59:43,280 --> 00:59:45,439
Speaker 2: you've got them as a playoff contender, I don't see

1158
00:59:45,440 --> 00:59:48,320
Speaker 2: that at all. I'm not rooty against it. But come on,

1159
00:59:48,400 --> 00:59:50,680
Speaker 2: let's be honest about this thing for a second. The

1160
00:59:50,760 --> 00:59:55,200
Speaker 2: reason I've got them here is because just their proximity

1161
00:59:55,320 --> 00:59:56,920
Speaker 2: to a bunch of teams that I think are going

1162
00:59:56,960 --> 00:59:59,680
Speaker 2: to be hovering near the top, they pull an upset

1163
00:59:59,720 --> 01:00:01,680
Speaker 2: or two suddenly, it kind of makes the whole thing

1164
01:00:01,680 --> 01:00:04,800
Speaker 2: more interesting. And truly they would have an X factor

1165
01:00:04,880 --> 01:00:06,600
Speaker 2: label at that point in time.

1166
01:00:08,360 --> 01:00:12,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, they just they have a September with Auburn and

1167
01:00:12,440 --> 01:00:14,840
Speaker 1: Michigan both at home. They should be favored in both

1168
01:00:14,880 --> 01:00:19,640
Speaker 1: of those games. Is that reasonable? I think it's reasonable,

1169
01:00:19,680 --> 01:00:21,520
Speaker 1: say you favored at home against those teams?

1170
01:00:21,920 --> 01:00:22,040
Speaker 2: No?

1171
01:00:23,160 --> 01:00:27,280
Speaker 1: I yeah, I guess Texas and Dallas for Red River

1172
01:00:27,400 --> 01:00:30,840
Speaker 1: at South Carolina, Ole Miss at Tennessee a bye week

1173
01:00:30,880 --> 01:00:35,360
Speaker 1: before they traveled to Bama. Missoo lsu Come on, good,

1174
01:00:35,480 --> 01:00:38,120
Speaker 1: this is it's ridiculous. This is coming at them in

1175
01:00:38,120 --> 01:00:38,840
Speaker 1: all directions.

1176
01:00:38,920 --> 01:00:41,200
Speaker 2: Ty. You go from a Mountain West schedule to that,

1177
01:00:43,040 --> 01:00:46,960
Speaker 2: and that's fine, and it's not his fault, right, it's

1178
01:00:46,960 --> 01:00:48,919
Speaker 2: not his fault. All he can do is the best

1179
01:00:49,800 --> 01:00:52,520
Speaker 2: with the guys around him and the opponent in front

1180
01:00:52,560 --> 01:00:54,720
Speaker 2: of him. So I'm sure you know you can't blame.

1181
01:00:54,640 --> 01:00:56,800
Speaker 1: Johna I'll take I'd rather take the Mountain West schedule

1182
01:00:56,840 --> 01:01:00,840
Speaker 1: than what Iowa has with Mark Gronowski with And that's.

1183
01:01:02,080 --> 01:01:03,000
Speaker 2: This is fair. Listen.

1184
01:01:03,040 --> 01:01:03,440
Speaker 1: I get you.

1185
01:01:03,880 --> 01:01:06,280
Speaker 2: I hear that one thousand percent. But I'm just like

1186
01:01:07,280 --> 01:01:09,600
Speaker 2: the people that are assuming that John Matier is just

1187
01:01:09,640 --> 01:01:14,400
Speaker 2: going to be a guaranteed lock to be, you know,

1188
01:01:14,600 --> 01:01:19,400
Speaker 2: all conference caliber quarterback, Like everybody chill for a little bit.

1189
01:01:19,440 --> 01:01:20,200
Speaker 1: Here I go.

1190
01:01:20,520 --> 01:01:21,600
Speaker 2: But how good? We don't know?

1191
01:01:21,840 --> 01:01:25,240
Speaker 1: Well, you have to understand the scar tissue. Oklahoma fans

1192
01:01:25,280 --> 01:01:29,720
Speaker 1: have recent quarterback play, So forgive them for being high

1193
01:01:29,760 --> 01:01:31,280
Speaker 1: on a clearly good quarterback.

1194
01:01:31,480 --> 01:01:34,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I look, I like this problem. I'm not

1195
01:01:34,720 --> 01:01:36,520
Speaker 2: rooting against this, but this is this is a tough

1196
01:01:36,520 --> 01:01:39,720
Speaker 2: spot for Venus and the schedule is not doing them

1197
01:01:39,720 --> 01:01:40,280
Speaker 2: any favors.

1198
01:01:40,400 --> 01:01:43,320
Speaker 1: But listen, we said this about Florida last year. How

1199
01:01:43,360 --> 01:01:45,160
Speaker 1: is Billy Napier going to make it to Week three?

1200
01:01:45,760 --> 01:01:47,360
Speaker 1: And now we feel really good about Florida.

1201
01:01:47,400 --> 01:01:49,680
Speaker 2: We were talking about him getting fired after the UCF

1202
01:01:49,720 --> 01:01:55,000
Speaker 2: game a year ago. Yes, but finding a quarterback tends

1203
01:01:55,000 --> 01:01:56,120
Speaker 2: to alter your trajectory in.

1204
01:01:56,080 --> 01:01:57,840
Speaker 1: A real Oklahoma may have found a quarterback.

1205
01:01:58,040 --> 01:02:00,360
Speaker 2: We'll see, we'll see. All right, we got them here,

1206
01:02:00,400 --> 01:02:03,280
Speaker 2: so we got Oklahoma, you got Tennessee next.

1207
01:02:03,800 --> 01:02:04,040
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1208
01:02:04,120 --> 01:02:07,120
Speaker 2: I don't think there is any way around the fact

1209
01:02:07,120 --> 01:02:09,160
Speaker 2: that Tennessee's gonna be a little bit worse this year.

1210
01:02:09,800 --> 01:02:10,480
Speaker 1: And that's okay.

1211
01:02:10,960 --> 01:02:13,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, and it is okay. The defense should still be solid.

1212
01:02:14,360 --> 01:02:17,640
Speaker 2: I think the offense has just so much new that

1213
01:02:17,680 --> 01:02:20,320
Speaker 2: they're they're obviously going to have to take a step back.

1214
01:02:21,000 --> 01:02:21,800
Speaker 1: Joey Aguilar.

1215
01:02:23,760 --> 01:02:28,520
Speaker 2: They pull off the trade, Nico Iamaliava transfers out to UCLA.

1216
01:02:29,680 --> 01:02:33,960
Speaker 2: Agalar had transferred to UCLA from app State. Now he

1217
01:02:34,080 --> 01:02:38,600
Speaker 2: is going to Tennessee. He's interesting. He's a middle class

1218
01:02:38,680 --> 01:02:40,240
Speaker 2: Garrett Nusmeyer is what he is.

1219
01:02:41,000 --> 01:02:42,200
Speaker 1: By the way, are you going to be doing the

1220
01:02:42,240 --> 01:02:45,440
Speaker 1: whole like he's the Xavier McDaniel if Scottie Pippens all

1221
01:02:45,520 --> 01:02:47,520
Speaker 1: year long? Is that a new tie signature move? No,

1222
01:02:47,680 --> 01:02:48,680
Speaker 1: that's not what I'm doing here.

1223
01:02:48,760 --> 01:02:50,760
Speaker 2: I know you're not doing it here, but I'm curious.

1224
01:02:50,760 --> 01:02:52,800
Speaker 2: It's not a signature move yet. If I get better

1225
01:02:52,840 --> 01:02:53,920
Speaker 2: at it, maybe.

1226
01:02:53,560 --> 01:02:56,640
Speaker 1: It's good for the NBA. It's well, I think you

1227
01:02:56,680 --> 01:02:59,800
Speaker 1: have potential with it with college continued. I won't overdo it, Okay,

1228
01:03:00,000 --> 01:03:02,400
Speaker 1: I know that's my tendency. I'm self aware.

1229
01:03:02,880 --> 01:03:05,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, but the reason that I compare him to nuss

1230
01:03:05,880 --> 01:03:09,800
Speaker 2: Meer is because there is that hero ball mentality going

1231
01:03:09,840 --> 01:03:13,600
Speaker 2: to try and force it into a window, potential for turnovers,

1232
01:03:14,000 --> 01:03:17,040
Speaker 2: also potential for a lot of upside. I don't think

1233
01:03:17,040 --> 01:03:19,080
Speaker 2: this is a horrible system for him, and I think

1234
01:03:19,120 --> 01:03:21,520
Speaker 2: he will be very, very productive, But I do think

1235
01:03:21,560 --> 01:03:25,360
Speaker 2: there's a mistake prone quality to his game, and I

1236
01:03:25,360 --> 01:03:28,000
Speaker 2: do think that there is enough new across the board that,

1237
01:03:28,160 --> 01:03:30,680
Speaker 2: as I mean, Josh said it on our show yesterday

1238
01:03:30,920 --> 01:03:34,480
Speaker 2: or on Sunday, it seems like a pretty obvious step

1239
01:03:34,520 --> 01:03:37,000
Speaker 2: back for Tennessee this year. And that's fine, that's okay.

1240
01:03:37,600 --> 01:03:41,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, and it's there's still a good amount to like

1241
01:03:41,440 --> 01:03:44,080
Speaker 1: about Tennessee even if they're not going to be a

1242
01:03:44,120 --> 01:03:47,640
Speaker 1: playoff team this year. The amount that they return from

1243
01:03:47,720 --> 01:03:53,040
Speaker 1: an excellent DEFENSEMI said, not on this schedule. Okay, they

1244
01:03:53,120 --> 01:03:56,160
Speaker 1: return enough to make you feel really good about their defense.

1245
01:03:57,560 --> 01:04:00,640
Speaker 1: There's enough back on offense and an enough coming in

1246
01:04:00,680 --> 01:04:03,920
Speaker 1: on offense. I like the receivers enough to make me

1247
01:04:04,080 --> 01:04:07,360
Speaker 1: think that they can win games twenty to seventeen rather

1248
01:04:07,400 --> 01:04:11,720
Speaker 1: than seventeen thirteen or thirteen ten. That there is enough

1249
01:04:11,800 --> 01:04:15,200
Speaker 1: here that makes me think they can smother a bunch

1250
01:04:15,240 --> 01:04:20,680
Speaker 1: of teams if they can finish close games. So this

1251
01:04:20,800 --> 01:04:23,120
Speaker 1: was always going to be sort of a like bridge year.

1252
01:04:24,480 --> 01:04:27,280
Speaker 1: The schedule they do have Georgia, They're at Bama, they

1253
01:04:27,320 --> 01:04:31,320
Speaker 1: open with Syracuse, They're at Kentucky and Oklahoma right after

1254
01:04:31,320 --> 01:04:34,160
Speaker 1: the Bama game. Yeah, I think they finish at Florida

1255
01:04:34,160 --> 01:04:38,080
Speaker 1: and Vandy. Schedule is not amazing, It's not terrible, but

1256
01:04:38,160 --> 01:04:41,360
Speaker 1: I wish they had somebody who wasn't there, like eleventh

1257
01:04:41,480 --> 01:04:44,160
Speaker 1: choice in April starting at Court. I know.

1258
01:04:44,400 --> 01:04:46,520
Speaker 2: I think they made the most of it, though, And

1259
01:04:46,840 --> 01:04:50,080
Speaker 2: as we talked about on the previous episode, there is

1260
01:04:50,120 --> 01:04:54,080
Speaker 2: seemingly a big sense of pride within the Tennessee fandom

1261
01:04:54,400 --> 01:04:57,920
Speaker 2: that they would draw a hard line in the sand

1262
01:04:58,160 --> 01:05:01,760
Speaker 2: and not cave to whatever Niko's demands. Where I still

1263
01:05:01,760 --> 01:05:04,720
Speaker 2: don't know what exactly they were, but they are where

1264
01:05:04,720 --> 01:05:08,480
Speaker 2: they are now. Agilar is not a bad quarterback. He

1265
01:05:08,560 --> 01:05:10,440
Speaker 2: is not a bad quarterback. Bunny Stretch. I do think

1266
01:05:10,480 --> 01:05:13,560
Speaker 2: disappointed a little bit last season, But at the end

1267
01:05:13,600 --> 01:05:15,280
Speaker 2: of the day, you get a guy who is not

1268
01:05:15,320 --> 01:05:17,320
Speaker 2: afraid to throw it, somebody who I think fits the

1269
01:05:17,320 --> 01:05:21,000
Speaker 2: system reasonably well, and the defense will remain solid. They

1270
01:05:21,000 --> 01:05:22,120
Speaker 2: don't have James Pearce anymore.

1271
01:05:22,160 --> 01:05:24,440
Speaker 1: Like they they do lose no, but they play a

1272
01:05:24,440 --> 01:05:25,560
Speaker 1: ton of guys on defense.

1273
01:05:25,640 --> 01:05:27,800
Speaker 2: They do lose some key pieces on that defense, which

1274
01:05:27,800 --> 01:05:31,120
Speaker 2: should not be overlooked, but they'll still be really solid

1275
01:05:31,120 --> 01:05:33,400
Speaker 2: there and I think they'll be led by their defense. Yeah.

1276
01:05:34,800 --> 01:05:37,479
Speaker 2: Then that brings us to the I guess last team

1277
01:05:37,520 --> 01:05:40,400
Speaker 2: in this rung for you, this for me, Yeah, which

1278
01:05:40,440 --> 01:05:45,000
Speaker 2: is South Carolina. The three big names are Leonoras Sellers,

1279
01:05:45,040 --> 01:05:49,280
Speaker 2: Nick Harbor, and Dylan Stewart. Okay, those three guys are

1280
01:05:49,800 --> 01:05:54,520
Speaker 2: super exciting, have an incredible amount of talent, and I

1281
01:05:54,560 --> 01:05:57,280
Speaker 2: think do a great job distracting from the fact that

1282
01:05:57,320 --> 01:06:02,480
Speaker 2: this team lost a ton on defense. And it's a

1283
01:06:02,520 --> 01:06:06,200
Speaker 2: brutal schedule. Yes, they've got six of their last seven

1284
01:06:06,240 --> 01:06:11,640
Speaker 2: games potentially against top fifteen caliber teams. So exciting at

1285
01:06:11,640 --> 01:06:16,120
Speaker 2: the top, some real pro prospects that are worth talking

1286
01:06:16,160 --> 01:06:17,840
Speaker 2: about that we're going to cover throughout the course of

1287
01:06:17,880 --> 01:06:21,200
Speaker 2: the season. I'm not sure about the rest of the

1288
01:06:21,240 --> 01:06:24,360
Speaker 2: team right and that's the issue for me, Like the

1289
01:06:24,440 --> 01:06:27,840
Speaker 2: offensive line has been an issue for South Carolina for

1290
01:06:28,640 --> 01:06:30,840
Speaker 2: I don't know the less five years running, will now yep?

1291
01:06:32,080 --> 01:06:34,320
Speaker 2: Are they going to get better? There? Is this going

1292
01:06:34,360 --> 01:06:37,200
Speaker 2: to be Leonora's Sellers being Leonoroius the creator again just

1293
01:06:37,200 --> 01:06:39,200
Speaker 2: do what you can do? Or is there going to

1294
01:06:39,280 --> 01:06:41,120
Speaker 2: be more of a supporting cast here that I don't

1295
01:06:41,680 --> 01:06:46,640
Speaker 2: Can we finally realize Nick Harber as this exciting prospect

1296
01:06:46,880 --> 01:06:52,240
Speaker 2: track speed, incredible physical tools. Are they going to find

1297
01:06:52,240 --> 01:06:54,400
Speaker 2: a way to utilize that. I don't know what's the

1298
01:06:54,440 --> 01:06:57,440
Speaker 2: defense going to look like beyond Dylan Stewart. I'm a

1299
01:06:57,440 --> 01:06:58,240
Speaker 2: little bit unconvinced.

1300
01:06:58,240 --> 01:07:00,040
Speaker 1: I think there was there's a bunch returning in the

1301
01:07:00,080 --> 01:07:03,720
Speaker 1: secondary with experience anyway, maybe not star power, but experience.

1302
01:07:03,760 --> 01:07:06,880
Speaker 2: I think on the whole, better on offense, worse on defense.

1303
01:07:07,800 --> 01:07:09,400
Speaker 2: I have questions about the depth.

1304
01:07:09,760 --> 01:07:12,000
Speaker 1: You think they're gonna better on offense this year? I

1305
01:07:12,040 --> 01:07:13,760
Speaker 1: think because of Lenora Sello's experience.

1306
01:07:13,760 --> 01:07:15,520
Speaker 2: Okay, I think a little bit better on offense, but

1307
01:07:16,240 --> 01:07:19,520
Speaker 2: Wanders lost a ton on defense and a brutal schedule.

1308
01:07:19,880 --> 01:07:25,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, so I'm skeptical. Yeah, a schedule man opening with

1309
01:07:25,520 --> 01:07:29,040
Speaker 1: neutral site game against Virginia Tech, getting Vandy and at Miszoo.

1310
01:07:29,400 --> 01:07:31,480
Speaker 1: And I'd say, which about Vandy, I think they're gonna

1311
01:07:31,480 --> 01:07:33,800
Speaker 1: be dangerous, specially early on in the year. And then

1312
01:07:33,880 --> 01:07:37,800
Speaker 1: to finish off with a back half that includes at LSU, Oklahoma, Bama,

1313
01:07:37,840 --> 01:07:41,400
Speaker 1: at Ole Miss inconsecutive weeks, and then A and M

1314
01:07:41,400 --> 01:07:44,760
Speaker 1: on the road and Clemson to finish with Coastal Carolina between.

1315
01:07:45,880 --> 01:07:48,520
Speaker 1: It's just a big ask. It's a big ask for

1316
01:07:48,560 --> 01:07:50,560
Speaker 1: a team looking to go nine to three, ten to

1317
01:07:50,560 --> 01:07:54,080
Speaker 1: two to build on last year. Let's bring this thing home.

1318
01:07:54,160 --> 01:07:57,840
Speaker 2: So just to reiterate, now, your your first year is

1319
01:07:57,880 --> 01:08:01,440
Speaker 2: the Apex Predators, Bama, Tech, Georgia. What was the second

1320
01:08:01,440 --> 01:08:04,960
Speaker 2: one called? Again? Right there? Right there, You've got LSU,

1321
01:08:05,040 --> 01:08:08,040
Speaker 2: Ole Miss, Missoo, Florida, A and M and Auburn. Correct,

1322
01:08:09,280 --> 01:08:10,280
Speaker 2: what was this next one?

1323
01:08:10,320 --> 01:08:12,480
Speaker 1: The tie Dan and the toilet, or could be tie

1324
01:08:12,520 --> 01:08:14,440
Speaker 1: Dan in the toilet that makes it a lot creepier,

1325
01:08:14,480 --> 01:08:16,120
Speaker 1: but Taipan in the toilet.

1326
01:08:16,200 --> 01:08:18,479
Speaker 2: Yeah, Oklahoma, Tennessee and South Carolina.

1327
01:08:18,600 --> 01:08:21,000
Speaker 1: If your starting point is Leonora Sellers. It's a great

1328
01:08:21,000 --> 01:08:25,160
Speaker 1: starting point. Yes, agreed. On my end, it's slightly different.

1329
01:08:25,880 --> 01:08:29,960
Speaker 1: My five contenders are Bama, Texas, Georgia, A and M

1330
01:08:30,040 --> 01:08:34,040
Speaker 1: and LSU. My X factors are Florida, Missoo and Oklahoma

1331
01:08:34,320 --> 01:08:38,000
Speaker 1: in that order, and then the skeptical tier for me

1332
01:08:38,920 --> 01:08:42,479
Speaker 1: is Ole, miss South Carolina, Tennessee and Auburn. So Auburn's

1333
01:08:42,479 --> 01:08:44,920
Speaker 1: one that we I think disagree pretty heavily on, or

1334
01:08:45,400 --> 01:08:48,800
Speaker 1: I guess not that heavily. Right, we do have the

1335
01:08:48,880 --> 01:08:53,799
Speaker 1: same four at the bottom of the conference, which is Arkansas, Vandy,

1336
01:08:53,960 --> 01:08:57,439
Speaker 1: Kentucky and Mississippi State in that order for me, Is

1337
01:08:57,479 --> 01:09:01,960
Speaker 1: that the same order for you? I believe so. Yes.

1338
01:09:03,040 --> 01:09:07,120
Speaker 2: So the questions for these teams to be anyway seem

1339
01:09:07,160 --> 01:09:10,439
Speaker 2: pretty straightforward. On the Arkansas side, I love Taylor Green.

1340
01:09:10,479 --> 01:09:13,559
Speaker 2: I loved them last year. How much can Tailing Green

1341
01:09:13,640 --> 01:09:18,080
Speaker 2: and his playmaking ability overcome a brutal schedule and what

1342
01:09:18,160 --> 01:09:20,840
Speaker 2: I think are very obvious limitations on defense.

1343
01:09:21,680 --> 01:09:25,480
Speaker 1: And just new players all around and new players all around. Yeah,

1344
01:09:25,600 --> 01:09:28,040
Speaker 1: they lose a bunch, They have to recruit a bunch

1345
01:09:28,040 --> 01:09:29,360
Speaker 1: out of the portal. It's just a lot.

1346
01:09:29,439 --> 01:09:31,840
Speaker 2: How much can you put on one guy. You know,

1347
01:09:31,920 --> 01:09:35,560
Speaker 2: he was already prone to mistakes last season. Arkansas is

1348
01:09:35,560 --> 01:09:37,880
Speaker 2: gonna find itself in some interesting shootouts this year.

1349
01:09:38,320 --> 01:09:38,559
Speaker 1: Yep.

1350
01:09:39,240 --> 01:09:42,479
Speaker 2: They might be very fun to watch. They're over under

1351
01:09:42,640 --> 01:09:46,200
Speaker 2: at time of recording is five and a half. Makes

1352
01:09:46,240 --> 01:09:52,240
Speaker 2: total sense to me. Correct, Vandy, are we buying into

1353
01:09:52,320 --> 01:09:53,759
Speaker 2: the Diego Pavia thing again?

1354
01:09:56,439 --> 01:10:00,439
Speaker 1: I think the best of him? Yeah? Absolutely, you not.

1355
01:10:00,560 --> 01:10:05,080
Speaker 1: He's thirty four, He's ready to roll. He's still playing.

1356
01:10:05,600 --> 01:10:08,240
Speaker 1: He still has maybe the best tight end in this conference.

1357
01:10:09,640 --> 01:10:12,400
Speaker 1: I don't know, especially if they can keep things relatively

1358
01:10:12,400 --> 01:10:14,679
Speaker 1: close in some of these bigger games. I do trust

1359
01:10:14,760 --> 01:10:17,960
Speaker 1: him to give Vandy the absolute best shot to win

1360
01:10:18,040 --> 01:10:23,360
Speaker 1: those tight games. I don't love the otherwise new or

1361
01:10:23,520 --> 01:10:26,160
Speaker 1: limited pop on offense around him. I do like that.

1362
01:10:26,160 --> 01:10:28,120
Speaker 1: I think they should keep improving on defense, but as

1363
01:10:28,120 --> 01:10:30,559
Speaker 1: Bill Connolly noted, they had some of the best turnover

1364
01:10:30,680 --> 01:10:33,839
Speaker 1: luck in America, and that's very tough to replicate.

1365
01:10:34,120 --> 01:10:37,840
Speaker 2: It's tough to replicate Vandy's enticing because they lead the

1366
01:10:37,880 --> 01:10:40,240
Speaker 2: SEC in returning production. And I do think the defense

1367
01:10:40,320 --> 01:10:41,880
Speaker 2: is better, but I think the offense is going to

1368
01:10:41,920 --> 01:10:44,960
Speaker 2: be worse, especially up front. And the luck thing, Yeah,

1369
01:10:45,280 --> 01:10:47,120
Speaker 2: the luck thing is tough to replicate. Now, you got

1370
01:10:47,120 --> 01:10:51,599
Speaker 2: a big game hunter in Diego Pavia, definitely who at

1371
01:10:51,600 --> 01:10:54,600
Speaker 2: this point, much like Zach Calzada, who we're going to

1372
01:10:54,640 --> 01:10:57,719
Speaker 2: talk about next. Probably old enough to rent a car,

1373
01:10:57,800 --> 01:11:00,640
Speaker 2: so they got that going for them, which is nice.

1374
01:11:00,439 --> 01:11:01,360
Speaker 1: Without paying a fee.

1375
01:11:01,439 --> 01:11:05,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, without paying that's right. But otherwise I'm just not

1376
01:11:05,920 --> 01:11:07,920
Speaker 2: sure the same pixie dust is going to be around

1377
01:11:07,960 --> 01:11:10,640
Speaker 2: for Vandy this year as it was last Doubt the

1378
01:11:10,720 --> 01:11:16,640
Speaker 2: doors at your own peril, Kentucky. Yeah, I mentioned Zach Calzada,

1379
01:11:16,720 --> 01:11:22,120
Speaker 2: so we're excited here because the Calzada Armada is sailing again.

1380
01:11:23,760 --> 01:11:25,720
Speaker 2: The bad news is that there isn't a whole lot

1381
01:11:25,760 --> 01:11:29,599
Speaker 2: of precedent for a successful seventh year quarterback. All right,

1382
01:11:29,800 --> 01:11:34,120
Speaker 2: he is Van Wilder At this point in college football,

1383
01:11:34,240 --> 01:11:36,760
Speaker 2: I am not sure which direction Kentucky is headed. They're

1384
01:11:36,800 --> 01:11:39,600
Speaker 2: over under is four and a half. I totally get it.

1385
01:11:39,640 --> 01:11:40,920
Speaker 2: I would not touch the over.

1386
01:11:41,160 --> 01:11:41,960
Speaker 1: It's a lot new.

1387
01:11:42,360 --> 01:11:44,560
Speaker 2: I kind of feel like things are winded down for

1388
01:11:44,680 --> 01:11:45,760
Speaker 2: Mark Stoops in that era.

1389
01:11:46,760 --> 01:11:48,240
Speaker 1: They got to find a lot of money. If that's

1390
01:11:48,280 --> 01:11:51,639
Speaker 1: the case, fifty million dollars ish forty to fifty somewhere

1391
01:11:51,640 --> 01:11:52,040
Speaker 1: in there.

1392
01:11:51,960 --> 01:11:54,560
Speaker 2: Somewhere in that neighborhood. It's sizable.

1393
01:11:55,240 --> 01:12:00,679
Speaker 1: It's just the difficulty in finding offense year over year

1394
01:12:00,800 --> 01:12:02,760
Speaker 1: over year. This was not a good offense. It did

1395
01:12:02,800 --> 01:12:04,840
Speaker 1: not work out transfer wise, it did not work out

1396
01:12:04,840 --> 01:12:08,280
Speaker 1: a quarterback last year on offense. And there's a lot

1397
01:12:08,320 --> 01:12:11,200
Speaker 1: to like individually about different parts of this defense. But

1398
01:12:11,920 --> 01:12:14,320
Speaker 1: there's only so much you can do if one side

1399
01:12:14,360 --> 01:12:19,479
Speaker 1: of your team is at best, at best an enormous

1400
01:12:19,600 --> 01:12:24,840
Speaker 1: question mark. And recent results say that Kentucky, by the way,

1401
01:12:25,439 --> 01:12:28,160
Speaker 1: maybe they win that one crazy game every year. And

1402
01:12:28,200 --> 01:12:30,320
Speaker 1: I want to say they have Florida in maybe the

1403
01:12:30,439 --> 01:12:34,400
Speaker 1: letdown look ahead sandwich spot of the SEC season? Is

1404
01:12:34,439 --> 01:12:37,479
Speaker 1: it between look this up? Is it after Georgia before

1405
01:12:37,520 --> 01:12:41,519
Speaker 1: Ole Miss is where Kentucky is for Florida? Yeah, that's right.

1406
01:12:41,760 --> 01:12:45,160
Speaker 1: It's after Georgia in Jacksonville before they travel to Oxford.

1407
01:12:45,200 --> 01:12:45,559
Speaker 2: That's right.

1408
01:12:45,880 --> 01:12:49,120
Speaker 1: They get Kentucky in Lexington. Talk about a Taipan in

1409
01:12:49,120 --> 01:12:52,200
Speaker 1: the toilet. There's your taie hand game of the season.

1410
01:12:54,400 --> 01:12:57,680
Speaker 1: But beyond that, beyond like any given weird week to

1411
01:12:57,680 --> 01:13:01,080
Speaker 1: suffocate a terrific team, I don't see the upside with

1412
01:13:01,160 --> 01:13:04,960
Speaker 1: Kentucky in this moment, Like I like Dante Dowdell. It's

1413
01:13:05,000 --> 01:13:07,280
Speaker 1: on his third team. Yeah, Like, I'm.

1414
01:13:07,160 --> 01:13:14,080
Speaker 2: Okay with that, And I would say, broadly speaking, I

1415
01:13:14,120 --> 01:13:18,200
Speaker 2: see some upside for the line. I think the defensive

1416
01:13:18,200 --> 01:13:23,840
Speaker 2: line has to improve. I think the linebackers are less experienced.

1417
01:13:24,880 --> 01:13:27,080
Speaker 2: I'm not sure how I feel about the secondary. I'm

1418
01:13:27,080 --> 01:13:31,400
Speaker 2: just very blase on Kentucky's defense. I don't feel like

1419
01:13:31,400 --> 01:13:33,599
Speaker 2: I've been there that often with Kentucky's defense because I'm

1420
01:13:33,640 --> 01:13:35,800
Speaker 2: so used to them having a better defense. That's true,

1421
01:13:35,880 --> 01:13:38,240
Speaker 2: And as I look up and down this defensive side anyway,

1422
01:13:38,280 --> 01:13:40,639
Speaker 2: I'm just kind of like, yeah, I'm not sure. I'm

1423
01:13:40,640 --> 01:13:43,160
Speaker 2: not sure what to make of this, and no offense

1424
01:13:43,200 --> 01:13:45,880
Speaker 2: is Zach Calzada. Zach Calzata was actually quite good at

1425
01:13:45,880 --> 01:13:46,960
Speaker 2: incarnate word.

1426
01:13:47,240 --> 01:13:49,679
Speaker 1: Okay, he can move.

1427
01:13:50,160 --> 01:13:52,639
Speaker 2: Which I think is actually pretty good for this offense.

1428
01:13:52,760 --> 01:13:54,639
Speaker 1: Yeah, but has a checkered injury passed.

1429
01:13:54,680 --> 01:14:00,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't necessarily hate that move just considering the attributes,

1430
01:14:00,800 --> 01:14:05,000
Speaker 2: but injury history, I would think that an SEC team

1431
01:14:05,000 --> 01:14:07,040
Speaker 2: could do better in Zach Calzada.

1432
01:14:07,240 --> 01:14:09,800
Speaker 1: Unless it's becoming quite obvious that this is very late

1433
01:14:09,880 --> 01:14:11,679
Speaker 1: stage stoops Eric Kentucky.

1434
01:14:12,360 --> 01:14:14,800
Speaker 2: He took my thought, yeah, and that's I think the

1435
01:14:14,840 --> 01:14:15,760
Speaker 2: overarching theme here.

1436
01:14:16,000 --> 01:14:16,200
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1437
01:14:17,320 --> 01:14:20,160
Speaker 2: And the last team is Mississippi State, which look, Mississippi

1438
01:14:20,160 --> 01:14:25,240
Speaker 2: State's got an absolute ridiculous schedule this year. Yes, I

1439
01:14:25,280 --> 01:14:29,400
Speaker 2: mean they were winless last season an SEC play. They're

1440
01:14:29,400 --> 01:14:31,280
Speaker 2: over under his three and a half. That's the lowest

1441
01:14:31,320 --> 01:14:35,040
Speaker 2: in the conference. It's preposterous. This might be like the

1442
01:14:35,080 --> 01:14:37,320
Speaker 2: second most difficult schedule in the country this year.

1443
01:14:37,680 --> 01:14:37,880
Speaker 1: Yep.

1444
01:14:38,760 --> 01:14:42,080
Speaker 2: So you know, I think elements of the offense will

1445
01:14:42,120 --> 01:14:45,360
Speaker 2: be capable. Like I don't hate Blake shape and now

1446
01:14:45,360 --> 01:14:48,280
Speaker 2: that he's healthy, had had surgery, I think on his shoulder,

1447
01:14:49,200 --> 01:14:53,320
Speaker 2: I don't hate him. We both love fluff fluff, fluff

1448
01:14:53,840 --> 01:14:57,000
Speaker 2: fluff Bothwell, that's I'm going to struggle with that all year.

1449
01:14:57,000 --> 01:14:59,960
Speaker 2: But Yea from South Alabama ad a really good campaig

1450
01:15:00,120 --> 01:15:04,200
Speaker 2: a year ago. I think we really like him. What's

1451
01:15:04,240 --> 01:15:06,120
Speaker 2: this defense going to be like against the schedule, It's

1452
01:15:06,120 --> 01:15:09,120
Speaker 2: the problem I have. It's a murderer's row.

1453
01:15:09,760 --> 01:15:12,120
Speaker 1: Do you want a spoiler? It's not gonna be great.

1454
01:15:12,560 --> 01:15:15,960
Speaker 2: So there we go. Those are your sixteen teams.

1455
01:15:16,840 --> 01:15:19,679
Speaker 1: Those are sort of an approximation of our tiers.

1456
01:15:20,240 --> 01:15:24,080
Speaker 2: You've got Bama, Texas, Georgia, LSU, Old miss Missoo, Florida,

1457
01:15:24,120 --> 01:15:29,400
Speaker 2: A and M, Auburn, Oklahoma, Tennessee, South Carolina, then Arkansas, Vandy, Kentucky,

1458
01:15:29,400 --> 01:15:30,280
Speaker 2: and Mississippi State.

1459
01:15:31,040 --> 01:15:31,240
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1460
01:15:31,720 --> 01:15:37,840
Speaker 2: On my end, I've got Bama, Texas, Georgia, An MLSU, Florida, Missoo, Oklahoma,

1461
01:15:37,880 --> 01:15:41,840
Speaker 2: Old Miss, South Carolina, Tennessee, Auburn, Arkansas, Vandy, Kentucky, Mississippi State.

1462
01:15:42,920 --> 01:15:45,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I may have I mean, both of their

1463
01:15:46,120 --> 01:15:50,080
Speaker 1: schedules are ridiculous, but I may have Vandy ahead of Arkansas.

1464
01:15:50,640 --> 01:15:51,639
Speaker 2: I could totally see that.

1465
01:15:52,400 --> 01:15:55,639
Speaker 1: I mean Arkansas adding into Arkansas's mix on the season

1466
01:15:56,200 --> 01:16:00,720
Speaker 1: is at Memphis and Notre Dame following road game at

1467
01:16:00,720 --> 01:16:02,120
Speaker 1: Ole Miss in September.

1468
01:16:03,000 --> 01:16:07,040
Speaker 2: Tough, it's tough, man. Yeah, what's your prediction to win

1469
01:16:07,080 --> 01:16:10,920
Speaker 2: the conference? I struggled with this. I flip flopped on

1470
01:16:10,960 --> 01:16:12,080
Speaker 2: this about a thousand times.

1471
01:16:14,040 --> 01:16:18,400
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go Texas over Bama, but has a worse

1472
01:16:18,520 --> 01:16:20,000
Speaker 1: record in the regular season.

1473
01:16:22,080 --> 01:16:23,240
Speaker 2: I think I'm on Alabama.

1474
01:16:23,680 --> 01:16:28,560
Speaker 1: Okay. I mean, look, if Arch is excellent.

1475
01:16:29,240 --> 01:16:32,559
Speaker 2: If Arch is excellent, they win the conference. Yeah, they

1476
01:16:32,600 --> 01:16:33,920
Speaker 2: would win. They would win the conference.

1477
01:16:34,840 --> 01:16:36,640
Speaker 1: I mean, if Arch is excellent, it probably means the

1478
01:16:36,680 --> 01:16:39,760
Speaker 1: offensive line has worked out They're obviously healthier and have

1479
01:16:39,800 --> 01:16:42,080
Speaker 1: a good amount of pop in the backfield next to him.

1480
01:16:42,800 --> 01:16:45,639
Speaker 1: It means that upfront, the transfers worked out on defense.

1481
01:16:45,800 --> 01:16:48,679
Speaker 1: I'm not worried about anything else on the Texas defense.

1482
01:16:48,760 --> 01:16:53,479
Speaker 1: So I think there's there's a lot to uh to

1483
01:16:53,560 --> 01:16:55,080
Speaker 1: love about where Texas is right now.

1484
01:16:55,320 --> 01:16:59,080
Speaker 2: I've got I've got Bama. I've got Bama over Texas.

1485
01:16:59,439 --> 01:17:02,120
Speaker 2: I I like the second year bump that I think

1486
01:17:02,200 --> 01:17:05,519
Speaker 2: is going to happen with Kaitlin de Borr, with Ryan

1487
01:17:05,560 --> 01:17:12,200
Speaker 2: Grubb joining a loaded roster. I just something about that

1488
01:17:12,360 --> 01:17:16,880
Speaker 2: was speaking to me. So I'm gonna go Bama. By

1489
01:17:16,880 --> 01:17:20,000
Speaker 2: the way, Bam and Texas both in the playoffs. Yeah,

1490
01:17:20,080 --> 01:17:23,000
Speaker 2: obviously if they win the conference, they're going to get

1491
01:17:23,040 --> 01:17:26,480
Speaker 2: in regardless, but I've got Bama and Texas making the playoff.

1492
01:17:27,000 --> 01:17:28,880
Speaker 2: I won't spoil too much, but I will say that

1493
01:17:28,960 --> 01:17:31,040
Speaker 2: I've also got Georgia and Texas A and M making

1494
01:17:31,040 --> 01:17:33,720
Speaker 2: the playoff on my side. Sure, we will do that

1495
01:17:33,800 --> 01:17:36,519
Speaker 2: playoff prediction and season prediction show in a couple of weeks,

1496
01:17:36,600 --> 01:17:40,880
Speaker 2: but I think four SEC teams get in. And more

1497
01:17:40,880 --> 01:17:43,040
Speaker 2: to the point that I made on our last episode,

1498
01:17:43,040 --> 01:17:45,720
Speaker 2: I think LSU is on the outside looking again when

1499
01:17:45,760 --> 01:17:48,000
Speaker 2: push comes to show, they're kind of that cusp team

1500
01:17:48,000 --> 01:17:49,000
Speaker 2: that's going to go nine to three.

1501
01:17:49,800 --> 01:17:52,840
Speaker 1: By the way, just to bookend the thought that was

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01:17:53,280 --> 01:17:56,839
Speaker 1: already I already proved to be incorrect. I prove myself

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01:17:56,880 --> 01:17:59,720
Speaker 1: wrong when I said Arch Manning stood alone as an

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01:17:59,800 --> 01:18:03,799
Speaker 1: un proven quarterback in a sea of proven or experienced quarterbacks,

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Speaker 1: and totally forgot about bo pribula college football as a whole.

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Speaker 1: The powers, what we perceive to be the powers. So

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Speaker 1: many of them have new starting quarterbacks. Yeah, but when

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Speaker 1: you look at the Big twelve, when you look at

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Speaker 1: the ACC, and you look at the SEC specifically, there

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01:18:22,280 --> 01:18:24,800
Speaker 1: are so many familiar faces at quarterback.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I love it. Oh yeah.

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Speaker 1: That maybe not at the highest end, maybe not at

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Speaker 1: teams competing to win the national championship, but like that,

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Speaker 1: we have a concept for so many of these guys,

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01:18:35,640 --> 01:18:37,400
Speaker 1: that we have a history with so many of these

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Speaker 1: guys is pretty great. It's pretty I love it. I

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Speaker 1: love it.

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Speaker 2: Look right in. Let us know your tears, you know

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Speaker 2: what ours are soliverable at gmail dot com is the

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01:18:48,240 --> 01:18:50,519
Speaker 2: email you can always hit us up. You can also

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01:18:50,640 --> 01:18:53,600
Speaker 2: reach out on any of the social platforms. We'll make

1522
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Speaker 2: sure we post this stuff out there as well. Of course,

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Speaker 2: follow or subscribe if you want to hear the remaining

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Speaker 2: two our to this episode, this SEC preview series of episodes,

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01:19:03,640 --> 01:19:06,240
Speaker 2: I should say, and then obviously, everything we've got coming

1526
01:19:06,320 --> 01:19:08,479
Speaker 2: up this season forballers dot Com is where you can

1527
01:19:08,520 --> 01:19:10,680
Speaker 2: go if you want to support further what Dan and

1528
01:19:10,720 --> 01:19:12,559
Speaker 2: I do. You get the shows without the ads, get

1529
01:19:12,560 --> 01:19:14,120
Speaker 2: bonus content, and you go get a whole bunch of

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01:19:14,120 --> 01:19:18,760
Speaker 2: other stuff. Correct verballers dot com. We hope you're willing

1531
01:19:18,800 --> 01:19:20,280
Speaker 2: to stay with us the rest of the way here,

1532
01:19:20,920 --> 01:19:23,519
Speaker 2: because the season is getting awfully big in the window.

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01:19:24,160 --> 01:19:26,280
Speaker 2: We're recording this at the end of July, but people

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01:19:26,320 --> 01:19:29,559
Speaker 2: are listening to this in early August, only a couple

1535
01:19:29,560 --> 01:19:32,439
Speaker 2: of weeks removed from there being actual college football actions,

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01:19:32,479 --> 01:19:36,559
Speaker 2: So make your plans accordingly. As we get closer, we

1537
01:19:36,600 --> 01:19:38,760
Speaker 2: will talk through what all of that means and help

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01:19:38,800 --> 01:19:42,040
Speaker 2: you stay as prepared as possible. But for now, this

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Speaker 2: is our part one of the SEC. On our Part

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Speaker 2: two and Part three, we're going to go into much

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01:19:47,120 --> 01:19:51,479
Speaker 2: more detail on all sixteen sixteen of these teams. Excuse me,

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Speaker 2: we'll break it up into eight and eight and hopefully

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01:19:55,200 --> 01:19:57,280
Speaker 2: you'll come out of that fielding a little bit more informed.

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Speaker 1: Definitely, why don't we leave it there? Good show. I

1545
01:20:03,479 --> 01:20:06,160
Speaker 1: enjoyed it same I enjoyed you. Ty, you did great.

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Speaker 1: Thank you, great.

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01:20:07,160 --> 01:20:09,280
Speaker 2: Performance from you for that go over there, My good

1548
01:20:09,280 --> 01:20:11,840
Speaker 2: friend Dan Ruberstein, form myself, Tie Hillebrand. Thank you as

1549
01:20:11,960 --> 01:20:14,200
Speaker 2: always for your ongoing support. We will talk to y'

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Speaker 2: all the next episode. In the meantime, it's always stay solid, peace,