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I'm Nina Turner, 23 00:01:17,680 --> 00:01:23,679 Speaker 1: hell raising, humanitarian, sister in the struggle and recovering elected official. 24 00:01:24,240 --> 00:01:29,080 Speaker 1: Listen to Hello Somebody every Thursday on the Heart Radio, 25 00:01:29,240 --> 00:01:35,120 Speaker 1: Apple podcast or wherever you get your podcasts. Welcome to 26 00:01:35,160 --> 00:01:38,759 Speaker 1: Money Making Conversation. As you know, I'm the host Rashan McDonald. 27 00:01:39,000 --> 00:01:41,800 Speaker 1: I tell people every time they listen to watch this show, 28 00:01:42,120 --> 00:01:44,720 Speaker 1: it's time to stop reading other people's success stories and 29 00:01:44,800 --> 00:01:47,800 Speaker 1: start writing your own. People always talking about gifts and purpose. 30 00:01:47,880 --> 00:01:50,040 Speaker 1: If you have a gift, lead with your gift and 31 00:01:50,040 --> 00:01:52,840 Speaker 1: don't let your age, friends, family, or coworkers stop you 32 00:01:52,840 --> 00:01:55,080 Speaker 1: from planning or living your dreams. You know. On my 33 00:01:55,160 --> 00:01:58,640 Speaker 1: short interview celebrities, CEOs, entrepreneurs and people I like to 34 00:01:58,720 --> 00:02:02,720 Speaker 1: call industry to decision makers. My next guest is Calvin 35 00:02:02,760 --> 00:02:05,360 Speaker 1: Truett True it is a barber to the stars. You 36 00:02:05,480 --> 00:02:09,359 Speaker 1: hit me an interior designer, creative director, and the host 37 00:02:09,400 --> 00:02:12,200 Speaker 1: of a very popular open mic for expiring and established 38 00:02:12,280 --> 00:02:18,000 Speaker 1: artists in Hollywood. Hollywoo Kevin's clients have included I'm talking 39 00:02:18,040 --> 00:02:20,080 Speaker 1: from the hair standpoint because I can't talk back in 40 00:02:20,080 --> 00:02:22,079 Speaker 1: the day. I used to have a barber like Calvin, 41 00:02:22,120 --> 00:02:23,840 Speaker 1: you know, but I've lost a lot of hair, so 42 00:02:23,880 --> 00:02:26,440 Speaker 1: I just talked to my barber all the time now Commons. 43 00:02:26,480 --> 00:02:30,480 Speaker 1: One of the clients Cigarette Leonard, Wayne Brady, David or Yellowa, 44 00:02:31,120 --> 00:02:34,720 Speaker 1: Kirk Franklin, the Golden State War, who Golden State War, 45 00:02:34,840 --> 00:02:39,080 Speaker 1: Amber Riley from Glelee from Glee, Dwayne Brown at Officer 46 00:02:39,200 --> 00:02:42,920 Speaker 1: Tackles Seattle, Big Old Boy Sitting in That Chail, and 47 00:02:42,960 --> 00:02:46,799 Speaker 1: comedian Karen Hart. To its first Friday's monthly open mic Night. 48 00:02:46,919 --> 00:02:52,320 Speaker 1: Artists have included Jordan's Sparks, Common Alvonna, Kenny Lattimore, Gary Brower, 49 00:02:52,440 --> 00:02:55,320 Speaker 1: d One and El Gibbards and My Girl Yvonne Orgy 50 00:02:55,400 --> 00:02:58,400 Speaker 1: from Insecure. Kevin fell in love with country music, and 51 00:02:58,400 --> 00:03:01,160 Speaker 1: I'm telling that's the whole thing. He in California now 52 00:03:01,480 --> 00:03:03,680 Speaker 1: to one thing. I will understand that California here talking 53 00:03:03,680 --> 00:03:05,760 Speaker 1: about country western music. I'm from hut In, Texas, so 54 00:03:06,280 --> 00:03:08,640 Speaker 1: we're gonna talk about that now. In college, doing his 55 00:03:08,760 --> 00:03:12,359 Speaker 1: long drive to visit his family. As a strong spiritual 56 00:03:12,400 --> 00:03:14,880 Speaker 1: leader in his community. He aims to use his unique 57 00:03:14,919 --> 00:03:17,760 Speaker 1: sound and approach to heal and empower others because he's 58 00:03:17,760 --> 00:03:20,960 Speaker 1: an entrepreneur too. As he shares his own life struggles 59 00:03:20,960 --> 00:03:24,000 Speaker 1: and transitions. He's got a reason to sing, y'all and 60 00:03:24,040 --> 00:03:26,240 Speaker 1: he's on money Making Conversation to tell us about it. 61 00:03:26,360 --> 00:03:29,680 Speaker 1: Please working the money making conversation, my man, Calvin TRUITTT 62 00:03:29,680 --> 00:03:32,840 Speaker 1: how are you doing, sir? And I'm doing wonderful man. 63 00:03:32,840 --> 00:03:34,639 Speaker 1: Thank you so much for having me and to the 64 00:03:34,680 --> 00:03:37,560 Speaker 1: audience of money making Conversations, that's great to people. Well, 65 00:03:37,560 --> 00:03:40,240 Speaker 1: first of all, you know Calvin and entrepreneur to my 66 00:03:40,320 --> 00:03:43,800 Speaker 1: understand cutting their my little backstory, my love my younger brother. 67 00:03:43,800 --> 00:03:46,440 Speaker 1: He spent time in the military. He lives in Washington, DC, 68 00:03:46,600 --> 00:03:49,960 Speaker 1: has four barber and beauty st laws in the DC area. 69 00:03:50,120 --> 00:03:54,480 Speaker 1: So and when COVID hit man, who you know, brother, 70 00:03:54,960 --> 00:03:56,760 Speaker 1: you know I like to do is pray for him, 71 00:03:56,800 --> 00:03:58,320 Speaker 1: you know. And then he had to set up all 72 00:03:58,360 --> 00:04:02,520 Speaker 1: these separation curtiness and plastics in this business and had 73 00:04:02,560 --> 00:04:05,360 Speaker 1: the way to get permission because because that type of 74 00:04:05,400 --> 00:04:08,560 Speaker 1: business was hit the hardest, because you had such a 75 00:04:08,600 --> 00:04:12,040 Speaker 1: close relationship with your clients. Tell us about you in 76 00:04:12,080 --> 00:04:16,080 Speaker 1: the beauty and Barbara business. Tell us about that transition 77 00:04:16,120 --> 00:04:18,880 Speaker 1: that hit your business so hard. When I say transition, 78 00:04:18,880 --> 00:04:21,560 Speaker 1: we're talking about COVID and ainteen pandemic. Tell us about this. 79 00:04:21,680 --> 00:04:24,800 Speaker 1: Welk us back to that a few few months back. Yeah, 80 00:04:24,880 --> 00:04:27,839 Speaker 1: So at that at that point of time, I was 81 00:04:28,080 --> 00:04:32,479 Speaker 1: in the in the management and ownership uh position in 82 00:04:32,560 --> 00:04:35,800 Speaker 1: my company. So um, I had it. I had it 83 00:04:35,960 --> 00:04:40,160 Speaker 1: made in terms of what most Barbara entrepreneurs want, which 84 00:04:40,160 --> 00:04:43,520 Speaker 1: is that the shops are running themselves because barbers are thriving, 85 00:04:43,760 --> 00:04:46,960 Speaker 1: the clients are happy. Um. And when pandemic hit, I 86 00:04:47,040 --> 00:04:50,600 Speaker 1: was told we have to shut down indefinitely and that 87 00:04:51,279 --> 00:04:53,200 Speaker 1: we had to stay six ft apart. As you know, 88 00:04:53,240 --> 00:04:57,240 Speaker 1: it's impossible to cut someone's hair from six ft away. 89 00:04:57,440 --> 00:04:59,240 Speaker 1: And what that did. It put me in a unique 90 00:04:59,240 --> 00:05:04,080 Speaker 1: position the because um, my finances was affected, my passive income. 91 00:05:04,160 --> 00:05:06,440 Speaker 1: I was used to going to the shops and picking 92 00:05:06,520 --> 00:05:10,200 Speaker 1: up the booth rent and um, you know, it presented 93 00:05:10,200 --> 00:05:12,839 Speaker 1: a moral challenge for me. Do I still charge people 94 00:05:12,839 --> 00:05:15,760 Speaker 1: boothrint for a booth that they cannot use? And in 95 00:05:15,839 --> 00:05:17,919 Speaker 1: my case the answer was no. I didn't feel like 96 00:05:17,960 --> 00:05:21,279 Speaker 1: it was right. Um, and it cost me a lot 97 00:05:21,279 --> 00:05:24,919 Speaker 1: of money. It cost me to shut down a few locations. 98 00:05:25,120 --> 00:05:27,760 Speaker 1: It cost me to reconsider how I showed up in 99 00:05:27,760 --> 00:05:31,200 Speaker 1: the industry at all, because UM, I felt their pain. 100 00:05:31,520 --> 00:05:35,520 Speaker 1: I was, I stood behind a chair for nineteen years myself, 101 00:05:36,080 --> 00:05:39,680 Speaker 1: and UM to have to pay for a chair that 102 00:05:39,800 --> 00:05:42,680 Speaker 1: you can't use due to the pandemic and to be 103 00:05:42,800 --> 00:05:47,480 Speaker 1: charged forward to me, it just was, like I said, morally, uh, 104 00:05:47,640 --> 00:05:50,960 Speaker 1: not right to collect from something that I knew couldn't 105 00:05:51,000 --> 00:05:53,479 Speaker 1: be used. So after a few months of that, like 106 00:05:53,520 --> 00:05:57,880 Speaker 1: I'm collecting zero, but the landlords at the properties, they 107 00:05:57,880 --> 00:06:02,600 Speaker 1: still needed to collect everything. And so it affected my pockets. Uh, 108 00:06:02,640 --> 00:06:06,360 Speaker 1: And it affected me mentally too because what I once was, 109 00:06:07,120 --> 00:06:11,240 Speaker 1: um I wasn't that anymore, you know. And yeah, so 110 00:06:11,279 --> 00:06:14,440 Speaker 1: it was a difficult challenge, and you know, I definitely 111 00:06:14,480 --> 00:06:17,880 Speaker 1: salute your brother who and many others in this industry 112 00:06:17,920 --> 00:06:21,200 Speaker 1: that had to make those quick adjustments to continue to 113 00:06:21,240 --> 00:06:24,840 Speaker 1: serve the public. And then it kept changing, you know 114 00:06:24,839 --> 00:06:29,400 Speaker 1: what I'm saying. So this week it was capacity, next 115 00:06:29,440 --> 00:06:32,120 Speaker 1: week it was, um you have to have up all 116 00:06:32,120 --> 00:06:36,479 Speaker 1: these partitions and and separating devices and cleaning protocol that 117 00:06:36,640 --> 00:06:40,479 Speaker 1: the owners had to spend money on. You know, and 118 00:06:40,560 --> 00:06:42,680 Speaker 1: that money just didn't appear. You know, a lot of 119 00:06:42,680 --> 00:06:46,880 Speaker 1: people had to make sacrifices um to get those things 120 00:06:46,880 --> 00:06:50,680 Speaker 1: done in hopes of keeping their business running. And then 121 00:06:50,760 --> 00:06:53,440 Speaker 1: the business the laws are changed again and it goes 122 00:06:53,480 --> 00:06:58,200 Speaker 1: into five percent capacity to no indoor activity in shops 123 00:06:58,279 --> 00:07:01,360 Speaker 1: around the nation were putting chairs on the on the 124 00:07:01,400 --> 00:07:05,320 Speaker 1: outside of their premises. But the barbershop culture I come from, man, 125 00:07:05,360 --> 00:07:07,800 Speaker 1: people don't pay you to cut the hair outside. You know. 126 00:07:07,839 --> 00:07:09,960 Speaker 1: They pay for the comfort, they pay for the camaraderie, 127 00:07:09,960 --> 00:07:12,160 Speaker 1: they pay for the air conditioning. Even the barbers like, 128 00:07:12,160 --> 00:07:14,880 Speaker 1: how can I charge them money to cut outside? They 129 00:07:14,920 --> 00:07:18,720 Speaker 1: don't even electricity. So it's a very difficult transition, but 130 00:07:18,720 --> 00:07:20,960 Speaker 1: but we made it, you know absolutely. I'm talking to 131 00:07:21,040 --> 00:07:26,800 Speaker 1: Kevin Truitt, the celebrity barber to the Stars, entrepreneur media host. 132 00:07:27,680 --> 00:07:30,640 Speaker 1: You know. You know the interesting thing about being a barber, 133 00:07:30,680 --> 00:07:33,320 Speaker 1: because you know, I've lived in life. I can still 134 00:07:33,320 --> 00:07:35,960 Speaker 1: remember my first hair cut when my dadd said me down, 135 00:07:36,040 --> 00:07:38,400 Speaker 1: got the Ivory lead. That's what I got because all 136 00:07:38,480 --> 00:07:40,120 Speaker 1: my hair off, you know a little but you can 137 00:07:40,200 --> 00:07:42,200 Speaker 1: just see your little hair left. That was my first 138 00:07:42,560 --> 00:07:44,360 Speaker 1: first hair cut. To you guy, that got my little 139 00:07:44,360 --> 00:07:46,800 Speaker 1: part right there, I would look good, got out that chair. 140 00:07:46,840 --> 00:07:48,760 Speaker 1: Come on, you can tell me nothing. Can we have 141 00:07:48,840 --> 00:07:51,160 Speaker 1: my little part? I want that part probably all the 142 00:07:51,200 --> 00:07:53,080 Speaker 1: way through middle school if I realized I was tired 143 00:07:53,080 --> 00:07:55,800 Speaker 1: of that part in my half. But but you know that, 144 00:07:56,040 --> 00:07:59,640 Speaker 1: But really being a barber in general, because now you 145 00:07:59,720 --> 00:08:03,040 Speaker 1: went to management that had to be uh, that's a 146 00:08:03,080 --> 00:08:05,760 Speaker 1: good for your career, but you still lost some of 147 00:08:05,760 --> 00:08:10,160 Speaker 1: that camaraderie, that spotlight, that interaction. Talk about that transition 148 00:08:10,200 --> 00:08:13,440 Speaker 1: because you know, you can you can rise in success, 149 00:08:13,520 --> 00:08:17,280 Speaker 1: but you can lose something socially as well. Yeah. Absolutely. 150 00:08:17,400 --> 00:08:20,440 Speaker 1: And so there's a scripture that comes to mind. Um, 151 00:08:20,480 --> 00:08:23,640 Speaker 1: like my faith practice has been Christian, and so I'll 152 00:08:23,640 --> 00:08:26,680 Speaker 1: read the Bible and Jesus talks about these parables and 153 00:08:26,680 --> 00:08:29,160 Speaker 1: one of them is in the vineyard right where the 154 00:08:29,240 --> 00:08:32,640 Speaker 1: person who plants the vineyard doesn't actually work the vineyard, 155 00:08:32,760 --> 00:08:35,040 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. You plant and you leave 156 00:08:35,400 --> 00:08:38,800 Speaker 1: space for others to come in and and and work, 157 00:08:39,160 --> 00:08:42,040 Speaker 1: work and receive the benefits of the vineyard. And so 158 00:08:42,120 --> 00:08:46,319 Speaker 1: when I really understood that, it became the primary difference 159 00:08:46,360 --> 00:08:49,319 Speaker 1: between being a business owner and being self employed. Being 160 00:08:49,360 --> 00:08:52,120 Speaker 1: self employed meant that I worked in the venue, I 161 00:08:52,120 --> 00:08:55,680 Speaker 1: owned it, and I worked in. Being a business owner 162 00:08:56,440 --> 00:08:58,680 Speaker 1: meant that I planet the veneer and I empower others 163 00:08:58,800 --> 00:09:01,920 Speaker 1: to work and to the soil of that ground. So 164 00:09:01,960 --> 00:09:04,800 Speaker 1: what it meant for me was another It meant the 165 00:09:04,880 --> 00:09:09,080 Speaker 1: level up for my UM, for my business pursuit. But 166 00:09:09,120 --> 00:09:12,760 Speaker 1: it did cost me social capital. It costs relationships. It 167 00:09:12,840 --> 00:09:15,520 Speaker 1: cost you know, your client, you've been cutting for ten years. 168 00:09:16,080 --> 00:09:19,320 Speaker 1: Now it's calling on you and you are not available, 169 00:09:19,880 --> 00:09:22,600 Speaker 1: um to do that part of what you do anymore, 170 00:09:22,960 --> 00:09:26,920 Speaker 1: you know, And so it does cost you. For me, 171 00:09:27,240 --> 00:09:30,320 Speaker 1: there were friendships that were built over the of the 172 00:09:30,320 --> 00:09:33,560 Speaker 1: barber share, you know. And so when I transition to 173 00:09:33,840 --> 00:09:37,720 Speaker 1: no longer standing behind the chair, UM, sometimes if the 174 00:09:37,760 --> 00:09:41,360 Speaker 1: friendship was injured. UM. And now I'm at a point 175 00:09:41,400 --> 00:09:44,040 Speaker 1: where so I still cut hair on the side and 176 00:09:44,120 --> 00:09:47,559 Speaker 1: still serving um the clients, and and now I'm doing music, 177 00:09:47,600 --> 00:09:51,640 Speaker 1: and I'm having to face that kind of intersection where 178 00:09:51,640 --> 00:09:55,680 Speaker 1: it's like, hey, we love you, we especially love you 179 00:09:55,760 --> 00:09:59,760 Speaker 1: cutting our hair, you know, And and it's it's hard 180 00:09:59,800 --> 00:10:01,560 Speaker 1: from times. It takes a lot of bravery on my 181 00:10:01,679 --> 00:10:04,760 Speaker 1: part and a lot of acceptance, UM to just say 182 00:10:04,800 --> 00:10:08,360 Speaker 1: I'm choosing to live the life I want to live. Um, 183 00:10:08,440 --> 00:10:11,880 Speaker 1: that's uh, it's important to you. That's important to you. 184 00:10:12,040 --> 00:10:16,280 Speaker 1: It's important to me that everybody needed to do something. 185 00:10:16,320 --> 00:10:19,160 Speaker 1: Calvin and I I you know, I'm gonna tell you 186 00:10:19,240 --> 00:10:21,520 Speaker 1: some The only time I cut hair man, I was 187 00:10:21,600 --> 00:10:25,240 Speaker 1: pleasure to make us at fire and then tell the man. 188 00:10:25,240 --> 00:10:27,440 Speaker 1: The big brother came to me, man said cut my hat. 189 00:10:27,760 --> 00:10:32,480 Speaker 1: You know, brother, I'm tell the man. My My hand 190 00:10:32,559 --> 00:10:35,480 Speaker 1: was shaking so hard because you know that edge line 191 00:10:35,559 --> 00:10:38,440 Speaker 1: that that's the key to a great barber. Man, that 192 00:10:38,760 --> 00:10:41,839 Speaker 1: edge line you know that separates you, and that's that's 193 00:10:41,880 --> 00:10:44,319 Speaker 1: where you that's where the game changes. I think when 194 00:10:44,360 --> 00:10:46,880 Speaker 1: you start talking about good barbers and great barbers, just 195 00:10:46,920 --> 00:10:49,360 Speaker 1: that is how you add that create those edge line 196 00:10:49,520 --> 00:10:51,600 Speaker 1: what really makes a great barber. I guess I should 197 00:10:51,600 --> 00:10:54,880 Speaker 1: ask you that careful because you you get a reputation 198 00:10:55,320 --> 00:10:58,280 Speaker 1: and then people go, man, he cuts because you there 199 00:10:58,400 --> 00:11:00,600 Speaker 1: is a difference now. But I'm a step back and 200 00:11:00,600 --> 00:11:03,400 Speaker 1: just tell you about my bad experience didn't go well 201 00:11:03,440 --> 00:11:06,040 Speaker 1: because I was I was pledging and I was trying 202 00:11:06,080 --> 00:11:08,280 Speaker 1: to cut a big brother who really did can't think 203 00:11:08,280 --> 00:11:10,120 Speaker 1: about me. So I never was gonna win in a 204 00:11:10,200 --> 00:11:12,280 Speaker 1: haircut business. And I shouldn't have been trying to cut 205 00:11:12,320 --> 00:11:14,480 Speaker 1: it that anyway, but they asked me to. But you 206 00:11:14,559 --> 00:11:17,240 Speaker 1: are a great barber. What makes a great barber? And 207 00:11:17,320 --> 00:11:19,880 Speaker 1: what makes it? What? What? What? What? There like three 208 00:11:19,960 --> 00:11:21,760 Speaker 1: or two or three things that can really set you 209 00:11:21,800 --> 00:11:26,200 Speaker 1: apart in that barber's chair. Okay, So, UM, for me, 210 00:11:26,320 --> 00:11:30,079 Speaker 1: what makes a great barber is consistency. Can't you do 211 00:11:30,160 --> 00:11:34,440 Speaker 1: what I like every single time I come to see you? Right? Uh? 212 00:11:35,000 --> 00:11:37,480 Speaker 1: When each client feels that and you consistent, I think 213 00:11:37,520 --> 00:11:41,720 Speaker 1: that's what makes a great barber. Um. A good barber 214 00:11:41,760 --> 00:11:44,880 Speaker 1: is going to have the ability to execute a haircut 215 00:11:45,000 --> 00:11:49,640 Speaker 1: and yo, they're good, but great. It's like Yo, every 216 00:11:49,640 --> 00:11:52,880 Speaker 1: single time I come to see Kelvin and in my case, 217 00:11:52,880 --> 00:11:57,880 Speaker 1: each a line, it's consistently the same quality. Um. Some 218 00:11:57,960 --> 00:12:01,920 Speaker 1: tips that I feel like setting me a part is speed. Right. 219 00:12:02,559 --> 00:12:05,880 Speaker 1: I've worked in like you mentioned earlier, with high profile 220 00:12:05,920 --> 00:12:08,800 Speaker 1: clients and some of the biggest moments of their careers. 221 00:12:09,240 --> 00:12:13,680 Speaker 1: So oftentimes I have fifteen minutes to do what I 222 00:12:13,760 --> 00:12:16,480 Speaker 1: do best. I don't have the luxury of the forty 223 00:12:16,520 --> 00:12:20,360 Speaker 1: five minutes. So to deliver my product consistently in a 224 00:12:20,440 --> 00:12:23,559 Speaker 1: short amount of time. I've really developed my speed to 225 00:12:23,679 --> 00:12:27,800 Speaker 1: where we do have an interaction, we do have um 226 00:12:27,840 --> 00:12:32,040 Speaker 1: a high quality grooming experience, and we also only have 227 00:12:32,200 --> 00:12:35,240 Speaker 1: this short amount of time. Also, what sets me apart 228 00:12:35,280 --> 00:12:37,719 Speaker 1: for the rest is, hey, a twenty minutes man. We 229 00:12:37,800 --> 00:12:40,720 Speaker 1: got an opportunity to do something really impactful for me. 230 00:12:40,800 --> 00:12:44,800 Speaker 1: It's been speed UM or others is how you, um 231 00:12:44,840 --> 00:12:48,079 Speaker 1: may enhance a client's look. I don't know who's cutting 232 00:12:48,360 --> 00:12:51,160 Speaker 1: Jalen Rose here, but let me tell you it was 233 00:12:51,200 --> 00:12:54,160 Speaker 1: a clear difference on TV. Every day I watched ESP 234 00:12:54,320 --> 00:12:57,199 Speaker 1: it was a clear difference when the barber changed because 235 00:12:57,559 --> 00:13:00,720 Speaker 1: they enhanced his look. Um and to believe that it 236 00:13:00,760 --> 00:13:04,760 Speaker 1: that it bore more than age lines powerful, powerful and 237 00:13:04,760 --> 00:13:08,719 Speaker 1: and and it's a different power than I felt before 238 00:13:08,800 --> 00:13:10,680 Speaker 1: changing of the of the guards. You know. And there's 239 00:13:10,720 --> 00:13:12,840 Speaker 1: a lot of a lot of barber's I respect across 240 00:13:12,880 --> 00:13:16,520 Speaker 1: the country that are doing that and bringing their unique 241 00:13:16,920 --> 00:13:19,959 Speaker 1: abilities into the barber in industry to make it one 242 00:13:20,000 --> 00:13:22,880 Speaker 1: that's appreciated in value. Oh you know the thing about it, Like, 243 00:13:23,080 --> 00:13:24,560 Speaker 1: you know, I was a stand up comedian, so I 244 00:13:24,600 --> 00:13:27,839 Speaker 1: was traveling all over this country. You know, Pittsburgh got 245 00:13:27,880 --> 00:13:33,480 Speaker 1: my head cutting Pittsburgh Cleveland, New York, Florida, Georgia, Milwaukee. 246 00:13:34,160 --> 00:13:36,880 Speaker 1: All barbers are not created equal. I'm just telling you 247 00:13:36,960 --> 00:13:38,920 Speaker 1: all that right now. They're not create equal. Some of 248 00:13:38,960 --> 00:13:41,280 Speaker 1: them talk too much, some of them don't know how 249 00:13:41,280 --> 00:13:43,320 Speaker 1: to give you an edge. Some of them don't you 250 00:13:43,400 --> 00:13:46,520 Speaker 1: don't know the different type of hairstyles and all that stuff. Now, 251 00:13:46,559 --> 00:13:48,600 Speaker 1: the one thing I don't like it's a barber that 252 00:13:48,640 --> 00:13:51,240 Speaker 1: talks too much. I just want to get in that chair, kill, 253 00:13:51,679 --> 00:13:53,800 Speaker 1: get my hair cut. I don't mind a little chatter, 254 00:13:54,200 --> 00:13:57,079 Speaker 1: little chatter, but just just gonna get when I said, 255 00:13:57,400 --> 00:14:00,400 Speaker 1: talking to other people, people sitting in the chair, showing 256 00:14:00,480 --> 00:14:03,600 Speaker 1: me personal attention. That really is important when you sit 257 00:14:03,679 --> 00:14:05,920 Speaker 1: in that chair, because I know we're gonna talk about 258 00:14:05,920 --> 00:14:08,800 Speaker 1: other things. But because you are celebrity barber, you know 259 00:14:09,520 --> 00:14:11,960 Speaker 1: there are certain rules to be in a great barber, 260 00:14:12,040 --> 00:14:15,760 Speaker 1: and one of them is focused on the client. Focus 261 00:14:15,760 --> 00:14:18,240 Speaker 1: on the client, yes, sir, and and and and pretty 262 00:14:18,320 --> 00:14:21,680 Speaker 1: much understanding what their unique needs are. So you're a kid, 263 00:14:21,840 --> 00:14:24,920 Speaker 1: You're like, hey, speed is a pop party for me? 264 00:14:25,680 --> 00:14:29,960 Speaker 1: My clients, Um that uh that that's not the case 265 00:14:30,320 --> 00:14:33,320 Speaker 1: where they do want the connection. This is there one 266 00:14:33,400 --> 00:14:35,400 Speaker 1: time the one that that where they don't have a 267 00:14:35,440 --> 00:14:38,280 Speaker 1: camera in their face. This the one time that they 268 00:14:38,320 --> 00:14:41,640 Speaker 1: get to connect with somebody and sit still without doing 269 00:14:41,640 --> 00:14:44,160 Speaker 1: what it is that they do. So it's important for 270 00:14:44,200 --> 00:14:46,240 Speaker 1: me to not just come in and and just get 271 00:14:46,240 --> 00:14:49,600 Speaker 1: through the cut, but to get them that personal connection, 272 00:14:49,640 --> 00:14:53,160 Speaker 1: that brotherhood. If you, um, I bring up my my 273 00:14:53,320 --> 00:14:56,040 Speaker 1: I call him my brother, my friend coming. Um. There's 274 00:14:56,040 --> 00:14:58,560 Speaker 1: a lot of times, man, we break bread as friends 275 00:14:59,080 --> 00:15:01,960 Speaker 1: over their haircut. So and then there's also times where 276 00:15:01,960 --> 00:15:04,280 Speaker 1: it's like, hey, we gotta get this cut done and 277 00:15:04,320 --> 00:15:07,640 Speaker 1: get out of here or get him ready for a stage. UM. 278 00:15:07,720 --> 00:15:09,880 Speaker 1: So for me, my job is to come in and 279 00:15:09,920 --> 00:15:13,880 Speaker 1: really evaluate and take his temperature on what his highest 280 00:15:13,880 --> 00:15:16,040 Speaker 1: needs are that day. Wouldn't make sense for me to 281 00:15:16,080 --> 00:15:18,800 Speaker 1: come in, um when he needs social wood encounter. Would 282 00:15:18,840 --> 00:15:20,120 Speaker 1: make sense for me to come in and give him 283 00:15:20,120 --> 00:15:22,400 Speaker 1: a quick cut, or if he needs a quick cut, 284 00:15:22,440 --> 00:15:25,160 Speaker 1: for me to come in and tell him about all 285 00:15:25,200 --> 00:15:27,120 Speaker 1: of this stuff that I could wait for a later time. 286 00:15:27,200 --> 00:15:30,720 Speaker 1: So understanding that and giving that consistent product, that consistent 287 00:15:30,760 --> 00:15:34,080 Speaker 1: experience while giving a client what they need. But you're 288 00:15:34,120 --> 00:15:44,520 Speaker 1: right that talking too much stuff, um, you know, because 289 00:15:44,560 --> 00:15:46,520 Speaker 1: you stend up comedian for real I have. I have 290 00:15:46,600 --> 00:15:49,040 Speaker 1: some stand up comedians that I've encountered that cut heir 291 00:15:49,080 --> 00:15:51,080 Speaker 1: would be like, no one signed up for the show, 292 00:15:51,160 --> 00:15:55,040 Speaker 1: no one bought tickets, right, but they do want a haircut. Absolutely, 293 00:15:55,120 --> 00:15:57,680 Speaker 1: we will be right back with more money making conversation 294 00:15:57,760 --> 00:16:02,520 Speaker 1: with Rashan McDonald. 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Let's slide on over to the music man, 326 00:18:02,440 --> 00:18:04,720 Speaker 1: you know, because you I love the fact that was 327 00:18:04,720 --> 00:18:07,639 Speaker 1: the entrepreneurial side of you. But then let's go slide 328 00:18:07,680 --> 00:18:09,919 Speaker 1: to the entertainment side, because we also want to talk 329 00:18:09,920 --> 00:18:12,080 Speaker 1: about the spiritual side of you, because that all connects 330 00:18:12,119 --> 00:18:15,800 Speaker 1: because of faith drives you and also can keep you focused. 331 00:18:15,920 --> 00:18:18,000 Speaker 1: But the country music side of you, because whenever I 332 00:18:18,000 --> 00:18:21,159 Speaker 1: hear country music, you know, I always hear about I'm 333 00:18:21,200 --> 00:18:26,800 Speaker 1: from Houston, Texas, so I'm always to Texas, you know, Oklahoma, Tennessee, 334 00:18:27,320 --> 00:18:31,840 Speaker 1: Georgia type country western person. But that's not how you 335 00:18:32,160 --> 00:18:34,879 Speaker 1: fell in love with country western. You were on the 336 00:18:34,920 --> 00:18:37,880 Speaker 1: West coast, fell in love with country and western. Talk 337 00:18:37,920 --> 00:18:40,840 Speaker 1: about how that connection came about and how is it 338 00:18:40,960 --> 00:18:46,280 Speaker 1: driving your success as an entertainer in one sir, Uh, 339 00:18:46,400 --> 00:18:49,439 Speaker 1: that's a great question, loaded one as well. UM. I 340 00:18:49,440 --> 00:18:54,080 Speaker 1: would drive from l A to Sacramento, which is probably 341 00:18:54,080 --> 00:18:57,760 Speaker 1: by a six hour drive. Um. During my early years 342 00:18:57,760 --> 00:19:00,480 Speaker 1: of college, I was the first person my family to 343 00:19:00,560 --> 00:19:03,320 Speaker 1: attend a four year university and move away from home 344 00:19:03,359 --> 00:19:07,000 Speaker 1: and do that. But my roots came from home. UM. 345 00:19:07,040 --> 00:19:09,320 Speaker 1: I would drive home to see my parents. I would 346 00:19:09,400 --> 00:19:12,640 Speaker 1: drive home to hang with my friends to recharge because 347 00:19:12,640 --> 00:19:15,119 Speaker 1: I was in a whole new city, and those drives 348 00:19:15,119 --> 00:19:17,600 Speaker 1: got longer and longer. So I would, you know, go 349 00:19:17,680 --> 00:19:21,119 Speaker 1: through the radio station and I found myself consistently on 350 00:19:21,200 --> 00:19:24,560 Speaker 1: the country radio stations through these little kind of central 351 00:19:24,600 --> 00:19:27,520 Speaker 1: California towns, and they had some really good country stuff, 352 00:19:27,800 --> 00:19:30,439 Speaker 1: and I found myself singing the songs. But I, you know, 353 00:19:30,480 --> 00:19:31,879 Speaker 1: like you said, I'm from the West Coast, so I 354 00:19:31,920 --> 00:19:34,120 Speaker 1: try to when I'm singing in the shower, I sing 355 00:19:34,119 --> 00:19:35,560 Speaker 1: it with a little swag on it, you know, I 356 00:19:35,640 --> 00:19:38,320 Speaker 1: sing it. You know, I would it beat this a 357 00:19:38,320 --> 00:19:41,560 Speaker 1: little bit more clear. And but the stories really impacted 358 00:19:41,640 --> 00:19:44,440 Speaker 1: my life. I said, I want to have that type 359 00:19:44,440 --> 00:19:47,520 Speaker 1: of impact because I was not that I wanted to 360 00:19:47,560 --> 00:19:49,439 Speaker 1: be if I did anything in music, I wanted to 361 00:19:49,480 --> 00:19:52,200 Speaker 1: be a rapper, right, A lot of people singing the shower. 362 00:19:52,440 --> 00:19:53,720 Speaker 1: Not when I was a kid, I used to wrap 363 00:19:53,760 --> 00:19:56,439 Speaker 1: in the shower. I used to do out battles in 364 00:19:56,480 --> 00:19:59,879 Speaker 1: Sacramento and lunchtime like, uh, you know, I was a 365 00:20:00,040 --> 00:20:03,520 Speaker 1: hunchline rappers. So, um, if he can captivate a person 366 00:20:03,600 --> 00:20:07,840 Speaker 1: like me, um, with that music palette, with these stories, 367 00:20:08,359 --> 00:20:11,320 Speaker 1: when I had this deep passion in my heart to 368 00:20:11,359 --> 00:20:15,199 Speaker 1: do music through my life's circumstances, you know, Um, I 369 00:20:15,280 --> 00:20:17,880 Speaker 1: went to a genre that had impacted me most. I've 370 00:20:17,880 --> 00:20:21,399 Speaker 1: heard plenty of great rap albums, so many R B 371 00:20:21,520 --> 00:20:24,719 Speaker 1: as my jam I can, but it wasn't my life experience. 372 00:20:24,960 --> 00:20:27,280 Speaker 1: So I wasn't connecting to the music I loved the most. 373 00:20:27,480 --> 00:20:30,040 Speaker 1: I was drawn to the stuff that impacted me the most, 374 00:20:30,240 --> 00:20:32,280 Speaker 1: and that was in the country genre. You know. So 375 00:20:32,600 --> 00:20:35,240 Speaker 1: I'm doing it, um now, I'm doing it in a 376 00:20:35,280 --> 00:20:37,320 Speaker 1: way that I wish I could have heard it, you 377 00:20:37,320 --> 00:20:39,520 Speaker 1: know what I mean? You know, just you say this 378 00:20:39,600 --> 00:20:42,359 Speaker 1: because I remember because Steve Harving I was doing radio 379 00:20:42,960 --> 00:20:45,200 Speaker 1: and the beat name is two point three you back 380 00:20:45,240 --> 00:20:46,800 Speaker 1: in two thousand, That's when we came on the air 381 00:20:46,880 --> 00:20:50,600 Speaker 1: there and at the same time, that's when Nearly popped out, 382 00:20:50,840 --> 00:20:53,760 Speaker 1: you know, yeah, yeah, you know, And so I was 383 00:20:54,320 --> 00:20:56,879 Speaker 1: I always felt he was a country artist, you know, 384 00:20:57,640 --> 00:20:59,720 Speaker 1: even but they just threw him and raped and believe me, 385 00:20:59,800 --> 00:21:01,639 Speaker 1: made lot of money. Is a wrapper. Now he slid 386 00:21:01,680 --> 00:21:04,119 Speaker 1: back to where I think his true roots are country 387 00:21:04,359 --> 00:21:06,879 Speaker 1: country music, and he's bringing a lot of people in 388 00:21:06,960 --> 00:21:10,120 Speaker 1: that lane. And then uh nasacks, you know, he he's 389 00:21:10,119 --> 00:21:12,919 Speaker 1: doing his thing and uh and but when when you 390 00:21:12,920 --> 00:21:15,200 Speaker 1: when you look at what you're trying to do as 391 00:21:15,240 --> 00:21:19,160 Speaker 1: a as a potential artist, you know, doeses what Nellie 392 00:21:19,160 --> 00:21:21,280 Speaker 1: does has done and what you see in the transition 393 00:21:21,320 --> 00:21:24,880 Speaker 1: to the acceptance of African American talent in the genre 394 00:21:24,960 --> 00:21:27,280 Speaker 1: of country Western. Is it just the right time for 395 00:21:27,359 --> 00:21:29,280 Speaker 1: you to step out there and do your music? Do 396 00:21:29,359 --> 00:21:32,120 Speaker 1: you if you can feel comfortable that's gonna be accepted 397 00:21:32,200 --> 00:21:35,159 Speaker 1: not by just the black community of the young community, 398 00:21:35,240 --> 00:21:38,040 Speaker 1: but the country and western country music community. I should 399 00:21:38,040 --> 00:21:40,920 Speaker 1: say yeah for sure. And I'm so glad you brought 400 00:21:40,960 --> 00:21:43,600 Speaker 1: up Nellie Man. I want to work with Nellie Um. 401 00:21:43,640 --> 00:21:46,280 Speaker 1: I look forward to collaborating with him. But he was 402 00:21:46,320 --> 00:21:49,439 Speaker 1: one of the people that really made it cool to 403 00:21:49,800 --> 00:21:52,960 Speaker 1: um to just embrace what you like. That's the country 404 00:21:53,160 --> 00:21:56,719 Speaker 1: country grammar album. The way he's saying with everything, and 405 00:21:56,840 --> 00:22:01,640 Speaker 1: when what he's doing now he's bringing other artists, Yeah, came, 406 00:22:01,960 --> 00:22:06,240 Speaker 1: come on, kay killing right now? Man. And then Mickey Guidon, Um, 407 00:22:06,320 --> 00:22:09,600 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, Willie Jones Jr. These are 408 00:22:09,640 --> 00:22:13,159 Speaker 1: all black people, black faces that's doing the music in 409 00:22:13,160 --> 00:22:15,399 Speaker 1: a way that's right for them. And so it opened 410 00:22:15,480 --> 00:22:17,480 Speaker 1: up the door for me to be just a little 411 00:22:17,480 --> 00:22:20,800 Speaker 1: bit more bold about it and just say, hey, you know, um, 412 00:22:20,840 --> 00:22:22,840 Speaker 1: I want to sing my song. You know, I wanna 413 00:22:22,920 --> 00:22:25,520 Speaker 1: I wanna do that, but I think Nellie is a 414 00:22:25,600 --> 00:22:31,280 Speaker 1: gatekeeper for black country artists in general who want to 415 00:22:31,320 --> 00:22:35,560 Speaker 1: do mainstream music in a in a in a way 416 00:22:35,560 --> 00:22:39,280 Speaker 1: that's not traditionally done by black artists. So man a 417 00:22:39,359 --> 00:22:43,280 Speaker 1: hund percent, Yes, I salute Nellie um and you know, y'all, 418 00:22:43,320 --> 00:22:45,560 Speaker 1: y'all look out for when me and Nellie put this 419 00:22:45,640 --> 00:22:49,119 Speaker 1: record together. It's gonna I'm all good with you. Like 420 00:22:49,160 --> 00:22:51,240 Speaker 1: I said, you know, my whole thing is that I 421 00:22:51,280 --> 00:22:53,600 Speaker 1: just don't want to just be wanted two. I want 422 00:22:53,600 --> 00:22:55,680 Speaker 1: to be a lot, you know what I'm saying, because always, 423 00:22:55,960 --> 00:22:57,439 Speaker 1: you know, I go all the way back to Charlie 424 00:22:57,440 --> 00:23:00,560 Speaker 1: Pryde when the only black man and out to music. 425 00:23:00,600 --> 00:23:02,200 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. And like I said, when 426 00:23:02,200 --> 00:23:04,960 Speaker 1: Nelly came out, you know, of course he's record labels. 427 00:23:05,000 --> 00:23:07,359 Speaker 1: They're just put you where they feel your sound fits, 428 00:23:07,560 --> 00:23:09,199 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So they put it on 429 00:23:09,280 --> 00:23:11,200 Speaker 1: a rapper. Nell It should have been Cunt your way 430 00:23:11,240 --> 00:23:14,800 Speaker 1: back in two thousand one. Okay, his old country country 431 00:23:14,800 --> 00:23:18,200 Speaker 1: Grabma album should have been dropped as a country a 432 00:23:18,320 --> 00:23:22,320 Speaker 1: country music and is changing too, you know, But I 433 00:23:22,359 --> 00:23:24,240 Speaker 1: think you're right. I think I think you're right because 434 00:23:24,320 --> 00:23:27,800 Speaker 1: in today's industry. That Country Grab Him album probably would 435 00:23:27,800 --> 00:23:31,440 Speaker 1: have would win the Album of the Year absolutely absolutely. 436 00:23:31,520 --> 00:23:34,720 Speaker 1: Guess what, then he becomes even international star. He's not 437 00:23:34,840 --> 00:23:37,560 Speaker 1: labeled as a black artist. And guess what, he's starting 438 00:23:37,560 --> 00:23:40,480 Speaker 1: to get that now because he's headlining tours with with 439 00:23:40,600 --> 00:23:42,760 Speaker 1: other artists. I think was the Alps. It was at Florida, 440 00:23:42,760 --> 00:23:45,440 Speaker 1: Alabama line What's the boys that they did that single 441 00:23:45,480 --> 00:23:48,200 Speaker 1: with they blew up but there it's really a great 442 00:23:48,240 --> 00:23:49,960 Speaker 1: sound when I look at what you're trying to do. 443 00:23:50,080 --> 00:23:53,600 Speaker 1: But what's the ultimate goal? Man? You know, you're still 444 00:23:53,680 --> 00:23:58,240 Speaker 1: in the entrepreneur management business of these successful barbershops in California. 445 00:23:58,720 --> 00:24:00,880 Speaker 1: Now you've got this open my you know, so now 446 00:24:01,200 --> 00:24:04,520 Speaker 1: you're not only uh you know. I think that that's 447 00:24:04,560 --> 00:24:06,199 Speaker 1: what I was saying, that you kind of missed that 448 00:24:06,400 --> 00:24:09,359 Speaker 1: experience of being a barber in a barbershop, and that 449 00:24:09,440 --> 00:24:11,840 Speaker 1: gets filled with your open mic because you really get 450 00:24:11,880 --> 00:24:16,119 Speaker 1: to talk, get to exchange your conversation and also participate 451 00:24:16,200 --> 00:24:19,159 Speaker 1: in the social environment where you're entertaining people. Tell us 452 00:24:19,160 --> 00:24:22,080 Speaker 1: about that open mic that's in Los Angeles and where 453 00:24:22,119 --> 00:24:26,080 Speaker 1: is it located. Yes, so it's called My First Fridays 454 00:24:26,200 --> 00:24:30,160 Speaker 1: and it's in Lake Babola, California. It started actually started 455 00:24:30,640 --> 00:24:33,879 Speaker 1: um in the barbershop, in the flagship location of the barbershop, 456 00:24:34,119 --> 00:24:36,400 Speaker 1: where we will move the chairs out of the way. Um. 457 00:24:36,800 --> 00:24:39,240 Speaker 1: I was playing base for church at the times. We 458 00:24:39,280 --> 00:24:42,000 Speaker 1: had all my equipment in there, and me and my band. 459 00:24:42,000 --> 00:24:44,600 Speaker 1: We get in there and artists will come, they jam 460 00:24:44,640 --> 00:24:48,080 Speaker 1: out with us, and that thing developed. So First Fridays 461 00:24:48,080 --> 00:24:50,119 Speaker 1: has been going on for now. It will be twenty 462 00:24:50,119 --> 00:24:53,240 Speaker 1: one years in September. You know that we've been we've 463 00:24:53,240 --> 00:24:56,879 Speaker 1: been doing that effort. Um. But that social capital that 464 00:24:57,359 --> 00:24:59,440 Speaker 1: I missed you then because I was in the l 465 00:24:59,480 --> 00:25:01,119 Speaker 1: A Man the one years I was in l A. 466 00:25:01,200 --> 00:25:04,600 Speaker 1: Two thous was in l A five. How I miss you, 467 00:25:04,680 --> 00:25:07,760 Speaker 1: Calvin two thousand fold Man was right here in the valley. 468 00:25:07,760 --> 00:25:09,520 Speaker 1: Man was right here in the valley when he started. 469 00:25:09,560 --> 00:25:12,640 Speaker 1: Man And uh, I don't know, Man, I'm so sorry, sorry, 470 00:25:12,640 --> 00:25:13,920 Speaker 1: I miss you. I heard you on the radio. I 471 00:25:13,960 --> 00:25:17,320 Speaker 1: still hear you on the radio, absolutely Man. Steve would dominating. Man, 472 00:25:17,359 --> 00:25:20,800 Speaker 1: I don't know how I missed you may dominating and uh, 473 00:25:20,960 --> 00:25:23,600 Speaker 1: And it was it was shifting black culture. I remember 474 00:25:23,880 --> 00:25:25,919 Speaker 1: one of my primary goals was to get a Hoodie 475 00:25:25,920 --> 00:25:32,080 Speaker 1: Award you know. But but because I was looking towards um, 476 00:25:32,160 --> 00:25:35,760 Speaker 1: towards black men, towards black male leadership, was doing it 477 00:25:35,800 --> 00:25:40,000 Speaker 1: recognizing the unsung heroes. And so that's what I felt like. 478 00:25:40,640 --> 00:25:43,160 Speaker 1: I feel pride to cut people's hair and to send 479 00:25:43,200 --> 00:25:46,399 Speaker 1: them into the world on their platforms with with with 480 00:25:46,480 --> 00:25:48,919 Speaker 1: my work. You know. Yeah, they got all this content, 481 00:25:49,000 --> 00:25:51,320 Speaker 1: I all this need for content. Not Calvin out there. 482 00:25:51,560 --> 00:25:54,800 Speaker 1: Why don't we see this on a special on HBO 483 00:25:55,000 --> 00:26:00,000 Speaker 1: Max or Amazon Prime special this First Fridays. Yeah, let's 484 00:26:00,320 --> 00:26:02,840 Speaker 1: let's produce it. You know. Um, there has been a 485 00:26:02,920 --> 00:26:07,040 Speaker 1: few opportunities over the years, um to do it. Um 486 00:26:07,200 --> 00:26:11,000 Speaker 1: one was was was bigger than than most and uh 487 00:26:11,000 --> 00:26:14,359 Speaker 1: it just the business didn't work out. But then I 488 00:26:14,440 --> 00:26:16,560 Speaker 1: think it was year before last Damon Dash did a 489 00:26:16,600 --> 00:26:19,520 Speaker 1: show called The Next Big Thing and he came to 490 00:26:19,680 --> 00:26:23,520 Speaker 1: l A. They shot at my place where First Fridays 491 00:26:23,560 --> 00:26:26,639 Speaker 1: takes place. They utilized the platform. Um so that was 492 00:26:26,640 --> 00:26:31,600 Speaker 1: on on bt UM. Jonathan mc reynolds and Molly Music Music, 493 00:26:31,720 --> 00:26:34,600 Speaker 1: both of my boys. Yeah, so the Molly and Johnny Tour, 494 00:26:34,880 --> 00:26:37,480 Speaker 1: we were one of their virtual locations that were shot 495 00:26:37,800 --> 00:26:40,399 Speaker 1: where we shoot First Fridays at and Molly was one 496 00:26:40,400 --> 00:26:42,119 Speaker 1: of the artists who would come and just sing it 497 00:26:42,160 --> 00:26:45,480 Speaker 1: first Fridays, so he bringing. Uh, you know, everybody kind 498 00:26:45,520 --> 00:26:48,439 Speaker 1: of comes back. UM, A lot of us here in 499 00:26:48,440 --> 00:26:50,360 Speaker 1: the l A. We call that the home court, so 500 00:26:50,400 --> 00:26:53,520 Speaker 1: we want at home advantage. We produced content from there, 501 00:26:53,560 --> 00:26:59,720 Speaker 1: Kenny Lottimore during pandemic major um who was artists as well, 502 00:27:00,040 --> 00:27:04,360 Speaker 1: you know, charting songs, film content there. Uh. Last Christmas 503 00:27:04,440 --> 00:27:06,919 Speaker 1: or Christmas before last, Holly Berry came through the doors. 504 00:27:07,400 --> 00:27:10,840 Speaker 1: Uh and it was just like all of the work 505 00:27:10,880 --> 00:27:13,879 Speaker 1: that we've done, um over these last twenty years have 506 00:27:14,000 --> 00:27:18,560 Speaker 1: just been incredible. And now I'm expanding that work in 507 00:27:18,600 --> 00:27:22,000 Speaker 1: a new way to where I'm not just behind the production, 508 00:27:22,119 --> 00:27:25,000 Speaker 1: but I'm also behind the microphone, sharing my stories of 509 00:27:25,080 --> 00:27:28,240 Speaker 1: healing and um you know, and of triumph to to 510 00:27:28,240 --> 00:27:31,120 Speaker 1: to everywhere. The reason I do music, it's the same 511 00:27:31,119 --> 00:27:33,640 Speaker 1: reason I cut heir, you know, UM, I really want 512 00:27:33,680 --> 00:27:36,520 Speaker 1: to touch the people that change the world. And I 513 00:27:36,560 --> 00:27:39,000 Speaker 1: know my music brings healing to little black boys who 514 00:27:39,000 --> 00:27:42,399 Speaker 1: don't feel like they're enough. Well, what I like about 515 00:27:42,400 --> 00:27:45,080 Speaker 1: your man is that you know they have multiple levels 516 00:27:45,119 --> 00:27:49,560 Speaker 1: of into income, multiple levels of entertainment. I always tell people, 517 00:27:49,800 --> 00:27:52,400 Speaker 1: when you focus on one dream. You should have many 518 00:27:52,480 --> 00:27:54,920 Speaker 1: layers in that dream. And I like that and that's 519 00:27:54,920 --> 00:27:56,879 Speaker 1: why I do want to make a conversations so people 520 00:27:56,880 --> 00:27:59,159 Speaker 1: can tell their stories. Because people can just see you 521 00:27:59,240 --> 00:28:01,960 Speaker 1: as the hold the first Fridays. No, no, No, he's 522 00:28:01,960 --> 00:28:04,560 Speaker 1: more than that. They can just hear your whole conversation 523 00:28:04,560 --> 00:28:07,399 Speaker 1: about doing country music and you're one of your first 524 00:28:07,440 --> 00:28:09,600 Speaker 1: love No, he's more than that. They can hear your 525 00:28:09,600 --> 00:28:12,240 Speaker 1: story about you just being an entrepreneur. You know where 526 00:28:12,280 --> 00:28:14,680 Speaker 1: you got these barber chains and you once was a 527 00:28:14,720 --> 00:28:17,719 Speaker 1: barber and you started your first Fridays there twenty one 528 00:28:17,800 --> 00:28:20,040 Speaker 1: years ago. When you look at all these things, how 529 00:28:20,040 --> 00:28:23,240 Speaker 1: do you compartmentalize being able to be successful in all 530 00:28:23,280 --> 00:28:26,560 Speaker 1: these different lanes, plus your spirit and the ability to 531 00:28:26,640 --> 00:28:31,360 Speaker 1: motivate people to be successful through who you are. Calvin, Yeah, 532 00:28:31,480 --> 00:28:33,560 Speaker 1: I try to. I try to consolidate it all to 533 00:28:34,000 --> 00:28:37,160 Speaker 1: UH to service. You know. I think my greatest UH 534 00:28:37,359 --> 00:28:41,520 Speaker 1: calling is has been to serve my fellow man in 535 00:28:41,520 --> 00:28:43,200 Speaker 1: in in this life. You know, since I was a 536 00:28:43,240 --> 00:28:46,160 Speaker 1: little boy, you know, uh, I used to I started 537 00:28:46,200 --> 00:28:48,520 Speaker 1: my haircut business when I was like ten years old. 538 00:28:48,560 --> 00:28:50,800 Speaker 1: I used to cut lines. I used to cut people's grass, 539 00:28:51,120 --> 00:28:53,200 Speaker 1: and I couldn't hear my slogans if you can grow it, 540 00:28:53,240 --> 00:28:55,000 Speaker 1: I can cut it. You know. It's just something that 541 00:28:55,040 --> 00:28:58,040 Speaker 1: felt felt good to me to be able to, uh, 542 00:28:58,080 --> 00:29:00,920 Speaker 1: to do something that that people were either that they 543 00:29:00,920 --> 00:29:03,600 Speaker 1: were willing to pay me for, you know. And the 544 00:29:03,760 --> 00:29:06,400 Speaker 1: the storylines of the guys I looked up to in 545 00:29:06,440 --> 00:29:08,760 Speaker 1: my neighborhood, they were they were getting killed, they were 546 00:29:08,800 --> 00:29:12,120 Speaker 1: going to jail. And I had this this skill to 547 00:29:12,120 --> 00:29:13,960 Speaker 1: to cut stuff and make it look good, you know. 548 00:29:14,240 --> 00:29:16,440 Speaker 1: So in essence, it kind of put my life on 549 00:29:16,480 --> 00:29:19,680 Speaker 1: a different path. And and I keep sitting here in 550 00:29:19,760 --> 00:29:23,280 Speaker 1: that same message that reverb playing in my life, even 551 00:29:23,320 --> 00:29:26,440 Speaker 1: through my music, through my ministry, through my service to 552 00:29:26,680 --> 00:29:29,960 Speaker 1: the public. Um So I kind of consolidated all to 553 00:29:30,080 --> 00:29:32,920 Speaker 1: one thing, is that hey, and my serving and my 554 00:29:33,000 --> 00:29:36,160 Speaker 1: serving humanity and the best way that I can and 555 00:29:36,800 --> 00:29:39,040 Speaker 1: you know, basically as God pleased with what I'm doing. 556 00:29:39,520 --> 00:29:42,360 Speaker 1: And it does change from times. Sometimes it changed by 557 00:29:42,400 --> 00:29:45,200 Speaker 1: the day I got somebody's here right after this interview, 558 00:29:45,320 --> 00:29:47,360 Speaker 1: you know, and then I got to jump on another 559 00:29:47,880 --> 00:29:50,640 Speaker 1: call to promote the upcoming release of my of my 560 00:29:50,720 --> 00:29:53,440 Speaker 1: music and all of that, man, I believe is in 561 00:29:53,560 --> 00:29:56,640 Speaker 1: service to my highest purpose, which is to you know, 562 00:29:56,680 --> 00:29:59,320 Speaker 1: to to help my fellow man and to receive that 563 00:29:59,440 --> 00:30:02,320 Speaker 1: help and love in comaraderie that come when we when 564 00:30:02,360 --> 00:30:04,400 Speaker 1: we just show up authentically and take up a lot 565 00:30:04,400 --> 00:30:06,959 Speaker 1: of space. So I'm gonna be big, you know, and 566 00:30:07,000 --> 00:30:09,680 Speaker 1: I want to leave big impact along the way. Well, 567 00:30:09,720 --> 00:30:11,800 Speaker 1: as we close, let's talk about the release of your music. 568 00:30:11,880 --> 00:30:15,360 Speaker 1: Tell us where we can find it, tell us the uh, 569 00:30:15,880 --> 00:30:19,480 Speaker 1: the whole are you shooting videos each which one it releases, 570 00:30:19,520 --> 00:30:21,040 Speaker 1: how you're doing it so we can wrap it up 571 00:30:21,040 --> 00:30:24,000 Speaker 1: on the high note about your brand. See, I love 572 00:30:24,040 --> 00:30:26,120 Speaker 1: that the whole concept of what you're trying to do. 573 00:30:26,480 --> 00:30:28,600 Speaker 1: But it also is key that you know you keep 574 00:30:28,640 --> 00:30:32,080 Speaker 1: doing first Fridays. You know, you keep cutting hair, you know, 575 00:30:32,120 --> 00:30:36,640 Speaker 1: all of just I always tell people I remember October one. 576 00:30:36,680 --> 00:30:38,959 Speaker 1: I always that they mean something to me because I 577 00:30:39,000 --> 00:30:42,640 Speaker 1: asked God. I said, allow me to take advantage of 578 00:30:42,680 --> 00:30:46,080 Speaker 1: all my talents, and I will give you one, sir. 579 00:30:46,400 --> 00:30:49,200 Speaker 1: You know, seriously, I said, I will not sleep on it. 580 00:30:49,280 --> 00:30:51,040 Speaker 1: I will not if you if you tell me the write, 581 00:30:51,040 --> 00:30:53,160 Speaker 1: I'm gonna right. You tell me to manage somebody, I'm 582 00:30:53,200 --> 00:30:55,600 Speaker 1: give a d percent that wherever you put me I'm 583 00:30:55,600 --> 00:30:57,640 Speaker 1: gonna give a hundred percent and a lot of people do. 584 00:30:57,800 --> 00:30:59,520 Speaker 1: They always say, man, you just love what you do 585 00:31:00,240 --> 00:31:02,440 Speaker 1: because he gave me an opportunity to do it. And 586 00:31:02,480 --> 00:31:04,600 Speaker 1: I told him, if he gave me an opportunity to 587 00:31:04,640 --> 00:31:07,880 Speaker 1: do it, I would give. And so keep giving. One. 588 00:31:08,600 --> 00:31:10,480 Speaker 1: As we closed, let's talk about that music that you 589 00:31:10,560 --> 00:31:14,880 Speaker 1: give to you, sir. So, the upcoming release of my 590 00:31:14,960 --> 00:31:19,600 Speaker 1: song Opposite is happening on December four, um, which is uh, 591 00:31:19,720 --> 00:31:22,200 Speaker 1: you know, by six days from now. UM. It's a 592 00:31:22,240 --> 00:31:26,120 Speaker 1: significant moment for me. It's also my fortieth birthday and 593 00:31:26,240 --> 00:31:30,480 Speaker 1: I'm devoted for for uh in my forties, man to 594 00:31:30,480 --> 00:31:33,120 Speaker 1: to show up in the world authentically. UM. I struggled 595 00:31:33,120 --> 00:31:35,760 Speaker 1: with a lot of things and my song Opposite is 596 00:31:35,960 --> 00:31:38,440 Speaker 1: just like you. UM. It's where I got before God, 597 00:31:38,520 --> 00:31:40,560 Speaker 1: and I asked God to change me and to give 598 00:31:40,600 --> 00:31:43,280 Speaker 1: me strength to do the opposite of a destructive path 599 00:31:43,360 --> 00:31:45,480 Speaker 1: that I was going to take my cell phone at 600 00:31:45,520 --> 00:31:48,800 Speaker 1: the you know, on the heels of adversity. UM. You 601 00:31:48,800 --> 00:31:51,320 Speaker 1: know I've been and I almost volted, but God gave 602 00:31:51,360 --> 00:31:53,280 Speaker 1: me strength to do the opposite. I want people to 603 00:31:53,320 --> 00:31:56,840 Speaker 1: know that. So December four, on all platforms, it is 604 00:31:56,920 --> 00:32:01,800 Speaker 1: a music video as well as a high quality, polished 605 00:32:01,920 --> 00:32:06,560 Speaker 1: master copy of the recording. UM you Know vocally performed 606 00:32:06,600 --> 00:32:11,320 Speaker 1: by me, co wrote the song with Grammy nominated uh 607 00:32:11,120 --> 00:32:14,040 Speaker 1: A singer and artist my brother Mr Eric Bellinger. So 608 00:32:14,080 --> 00:32:16,680 Speaker 1: we're putting all the momentum that we had around this. 609 00:32:16,760 --> 00:32:19,240 Speaker 1: I'm going home to my hometown and Sacramento to do 610 00:32:19,320 --> 00:32:22,000 Speaker 1: the release concerts, So you'll see all over my social 611 00:32:22,040 --> 00:32:25,520 Speaker 1: media UM as well as other platforms. But December four, 612 00:32:25,920 --> 00:32:29,800 Speaker 1: it's called Opposite Kelvin Trud available on all platforms off 613 00:32:29,840 --> 00:32:35,240 Speaker 1: streaming platforms Apple Music, iTunes, Spotify, if they play music there, 614 00:32:35,320 --> 00:32:36,920 Speaker 1: you'll be able to find me there. Man. So I'm 615 00:32:36,920 --> 00:32:39,760 Speaker 1: really happy to share this message with you guys. Kelvin 616 00:32:39,760 --> 00:32:41,960 Speaker 1: Truyd When I did this opening credit, I said, he's 617 00:32:41,960 --> 00:32:45,800 Speaker 1: a barber to the stars. He's an interior designer, creative director, 618 00:32:46,160 --> 00:32:49,320 Speaker 1: hosts of a popular open mic for expiring and established 619 00:32:49,320 --> 00:32:53,080 Speaker 1: stars stars called First Friday. What I forgot to say? 620 00:32:53,480 --> 00:32:57,720 Speaker 1: Rising star in the music business, Calvin, thank you for 621 00:32:57,760 --> 00:33:00,320 Speaker 1: coming on money making a conversation. Thank you so much 622 00:33:00,320 --> 00:33:02,480 Speaker 1: for having me. God bless you guys. Hey, I gotta 623 00:33:02,520 --> 00:33:04,040 Speaker 1: come out for one of those First Friday or two 624 00:33:04,040 --> 00:33:06,840 Speaker 1: because I come out to l a like three times 625 00:33:06,920 --> 00:33:08,720 Speaker 1: every quarter, so I gotta make sure I come in 626 00:33:08,800 --> 00:33:10,959 Speaker 1: on the Thursday so I could be there on the Friday. Okay, 627 00:33:11,240 --> 00:33:12,840 Speaker 1: we don't Friday. 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