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Speaker 1: Alright, yeah, yeah, Buddy Rich thinks he's Marty Janetti. He's

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Speaker 1: more like Marty McFly. You are like George mcflop Cabillo

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Speaker 3: Hey?

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Speaker 1: What's up?

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Speaker 2: Man got h Belanos on the update today, Danny, Ryan

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Speaker 2: and Mancy. I hear this is like the rude thing

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Speaker 2: you could say to women.

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Speaker 1: You should smile more wrong camera, Hi.

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Speaker 4: Manzi, Oh yeah, I know that's one of the worst things.

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Speaker 2: So many women on social media, like the grossest thing

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Speaker 2: a guy could say is you should smile more.

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Speaker 5: I've had that literally, like random men come up to

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Speaker 5: me that is mind your business, mind your business.

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Speaker 4: Especially because you guys know me, I'm always smiling.

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Speaker 2: So it's like when a stranger says that to me,

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Speaker 2: there's something oddly condescending and so rude. So guys, just

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Speaker 2: a stranger A lesson learned one minute into the show.

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Speaker 4: You could tell me because you know me, it'd be different.

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Speaker 1: But a stranger, if you're trying to kick in, that's

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Speaker 1: you know, what do you say too rich? I always

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Speaker 1: hear that you look tired, like that's something people want

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Speaker 1: to hear. Ever, but it's like, ugly, shut your mouth, guys,

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Speaker 1: I'm helping your game. Guys, what you shouldn't be saying

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Speaker 1: to women during the break I'll tell you that it's

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Speaker 1: much worse than that. But let me tell you though,

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Speaker 1: just a little lesson learned two minutes into the show.

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Speaker 1: If you try to kick it to a girl at

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Speaker 1: a bar anywhere, and you try to be it's not flirty,

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Speaker 1: your friendly to tell a girl you should smile more.

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Speaker 1: Now no, woman, like, that's not gonna work.

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Speaker 4: Something than if you're saying it with a smile, don't

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Speaker 1: No, well you know what I'll say, Manci, you have

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Speaker 1: a great smile, always bad when you're here. Thanks, Happy, Sexy,

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Speaker 1: Ryan is sexier than ever and DMG, sexiest voice in

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Speaker 1: all of radio. On the phones at eight seven, seven

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Speaker 1: ninety nine on Fox Danny g Super producer, And we

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Speaker 1: have lots to get to today. We're gonna talk Kobe

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Speaker 1: and Jordan. What do they have in common besides their

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Speaker 1: game on the court. Kobe and Jordan plus Iron Mike

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Speaker 1: Trivia to get the week going, giving away prizes today,

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Speaker 1: a little Aaron Rodgers? Is he crazy? Can we do

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Speaker 1: around to that today? Yeah? Absolutely, there's an Aaron Rodgers

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Speaker 1: sort of update of his craziness. But lots of football today,

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Speaker 1: because what's the count?

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Speaker 3: Rich?

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Speaker 1: Is it like ten days? I don't know. I'm not

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Speaker 1: good with math. My math isn't mathing? Is it ten days?

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Speaker 2: One, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight nine, ten

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Speaker 1: It feels like just a few days ago we were

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Speaker 1: saying just twenty ten days now. So since we're all

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Speaker 1: excited about that, some of us steal in baseball mode too.

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Speaker 1: And that's okay.

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Speaker 2: I told my kids yesterday because you know me, I'm

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Speaker 2: all about lessons with the kids.

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Speaker 1: I'm like kids, if you like sports like dad, you're

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Speaker 1: all about stealing their snacks.

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Speaker 2: This is one of the best times of the year.

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Speaker 2: You got pennant races going on in baseball. Football is

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Speaker 2: about to begin. I always feel like late September about

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Speaker 2: you're also really honed in on baseball playoffs. That might

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Speaker 1: It's a good one for sure, and you got some

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Speaker 1: good fights coming up, so it's a great time for sports.

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Speaker 2: So think about if your team is in the baseball mix,

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Speaker 2: like MANSI you're a Dodgers fan, right, what better than

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Speaker 1: I am. And then when you're not.

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Speaker 2: Watching Dodgers baseball, the NFL on in college football. It

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Speaker 5: Football October for sure, and then NBA even kicks up

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Speaker 1: It's awesome. I'm excited.

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Speaker 2: Let's go now, Covino, there's a story I think we

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Speaker 2: should start with, and it has to do with sabotage

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Speaker 2: Beastie Boys style.

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Speaker 7: Listen to Allly y'all. This is sabotage. Listen to Allly y'all.

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Speaker 7: This is sabotage. You know what's funny about that song?

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Speaker 7: Rich is like, and I love that Beastie Boys song.

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Speaker 7: A lot of people forgot they played instruments.

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Speaker 1: They started off as a punk band, you know, and

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Speaker 1: they dusted off those instruments. They came out with that

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Speaker 1: bad boy. And that's what it's all about right now,

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Speaker 1: the sabotage or is it? Is it DS or is

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Speaker 2: Before we get into that, I will say Beastie Boys

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Speaker 2: don't know where to categorize the Beasties.

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Speaker 2: You worked in hip hop backer the day don't feel

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Speaker 2: like the Beasts are in a weird uncharted No one

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Speaker 8: Them for sure, because their early label def Jam had

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Speaker 8: them as like frat boy rap, and they hated being

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Speaker 8: to be true musicians, so, like Cove said, they went

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Speaker 1: But remember Danny g A lot of people should know

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Speaker 1: that their pioneers, Dude, they were on the road run

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Speaker 1: This isn't my theory. I saw this on TikTok, and

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Speaker 1: on Solch. I mean, if it was on TikTok, it's true. Right.

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Speaker 1: It's amazing because it's hard to explain why they're good

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Speaker 1: to someone new, they're like, well were their beats good?

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Speaker 1: And you're like, were their bars good? Were they great

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Speaker 3: Well?

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Speaker 1: Did they have great voices? But somehow, collectively they're legends

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Speaker 1: and they're awesome and we love them. So listen, all

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Speaker 1: of y'all. Is it a sabotage? I don't think so,

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Speaker 1: but you gotta hear this one. It's about Shador Sanders,

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Speaker 1: who it seems like we can't stop talking about in

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Speaker 1: the season hasn't even started. Well before we get to

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Speaker 1: this is Kevin Stefanski and the Browns front off is

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Speaker 1: sabotage Shudor Sanders. Let me just point out one thing

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Speaker 1: before we get to there's a clip of RG three. Danny.

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Speaker 2: I know you got fired up about there's other headlines.

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Speaker 2: We gotta remember this guy is a fifth round draft pick.

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Speaker 2: This guy's also not the top of the quarterback depth chart.

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Speaker 1: I was just asking Danny Jago, Danny, who's the third

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Speaker 1: string quarterback of the Raiders?

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Speaker 8: Is Cam Miller rookie?

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Speaker 2: I'm a Niners fan. They just cut Tenor and Mordecai.

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Speaker 2: Imagine if any other team was making a fuss about

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Speaker 2: imagine if any other team in the league was making

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Speaker 2: you'd laugh at it, and.

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Speaker 1: Can't they all just get along like the Giants quarterbacks.

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Speaker 2: I wish that was the case. I wish the world

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Speaker 2: could get along like the Giants. That I mean, I'm

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Speaker 2: that team might be destined for trash, but that Giants

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Speaker 2: looked like to having fun.

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Speaker 1: Until they start losing. Right It's fun right now. We'll

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Speaker 1: see how it all pans out.

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Speaker 2: I want to go out for dinner with Jamis Winston

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Speaker 2: Russ and Jackson Dart. I feel like everyone's having a

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Speaker 2: swell little time in the medal ends.

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Speaker 1: Does look like they're having fun, but not so much

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Speaker 1: in Cleveland. So again, I think what we all saw first.

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Speaker 2: Danny, if you were watching some preseason, would you back

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Speaker 2: me up in saying that when they took out Shador

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Speaker 2: during a potential two minute drill, there was a sense

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Speaker 2: of Tyler Humley, huh, who ended up being cut? Wouldn't

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Speaker 2: have been cool to get a look at what Shador

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Speaker 1: What a cool test.

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Speaker 8: There's a little bit of double talking going on because

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Speaker 8: the stands are also saying, well, the everybody on the

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Speaker 8: line got cut except the center, but they also wanted

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Speaker 8: him in for the two minute drill to see what

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Speaker 8: almost like fans of athletes, and we have some examples

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Speaker 1: Up for him. It's it's wild again. This guy was

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Speaker 1: not this.

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Speaker 2: We're not talking about cam Ward or we're not talking

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Speaker 2: about even Jackson Dart. We're not talking about a guy

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Speaker 2: that was drafted early on. We're talking about a guy

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Speaker 2: that if his name was not Sanders, you wouldn't even

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Speaker 2: notice if he got cut. Not to sound like a jerk,

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Speaker 2: but if he was not a Sanders and got cut,

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Speaker 2: it would just be another unfortunate casualty of h Yeah,

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Speaker 2: he didn't make the fifty three man roster.

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Speaker 8: Well, Covino this is yeah, and cove this. We talked

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Speaker 8: about this during the NFL draft. This is all a

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Speaker 8: product of that. How many people were screaming that he

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Speaker 8: should have went way sooner.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, regardless, he was a popular player and

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Speaker 1: everyone is aware of him. But you're right, how often

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Speaker 1: do you care about the third string? Was it one

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Speaker 1: forty fourth pick or whatever it was. Yeah, not that often,

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Speaker 1: but he has his fans because he earned his fans.

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Speaker 1: I mean, he was an exciting player in college and

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Speaker 1: he has a famous name and he has his fans.

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Speaker 1: And I saw something. I think Danny alluded to it

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Speaker 1: because it was trending a lot of people are comparing

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Speaker 1: should Or Sanders to Angel Rees, fans calling him delusional,

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Speaker 1: like dude, he's not that good. He's third string, but

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Speaker 1: for whatever reason, the fans speak out on his behalf,

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Speaker 1: kind of like Angel Reese like, yeah, she's good, but

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Speaker 1: is she that good? Is she like that female athlete

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Speaker 1: of the Ye're good?

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Speaker 1: And I don't know. The meme went viral. I'll read

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Speaker 1: it says, should Our Sanders and Angel Reese have the

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Speaker 1: most delusional fans on earth. Everything is the fault of

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Speaker 2: Discuss the story. That is a great meme, a great analogy.

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Speaker 2: I'll give you that.

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Speaker 2: While he is a fifth round draft pick and fighting

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Speaker 1: He's a fifth round draft pick.

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Speaker 1: I mean, this is a weird story, and you got

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Speaker 1: That's why I have to say, Okay, like you could

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Speaker 2: I think a lot of times maybe if you're not

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Speaker 9: like we were pretty much given to like the ragtag

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Speaker 1: Are absolutely given a better situation to succeed. Best example

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Speaker 1: I think that.

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Speaker 8: And he's not the one complaining right now, Let's make

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Speaker 8: rumors about him being blackballed. The NFL owners and teams

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Speaker 2: Sanders himself we're blaming He's not the one. It's the fans, right,

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Speaker 2: We've talked about this before with other cases in different sports.

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Speaker 1: Are you watching America's team? By any chance? Danny? I started?

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Speaker 2: That's why I think the sabotage conversation is silly to me,

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Speaker 2: Bill Walsh openly talked about how like, yeah, I'm sort

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Speaker 2: of done with Joe bringing Steve Young and Joe Montana

436
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Speaker 2: ended up winning two more Super Bowls for the forty

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Speaker 2: nine ers, but Bill Walsh was ready to put feelings

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Speaker 2: aside and be like Steve Young's my guy, so make Winny.

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Speaker 1: It is clear that Rich again, Covino and Rich Fox

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Speaker 1: Sports Radio. We're not saying racism doesn't exist. Believe me,

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Speaker 1: it does. We all know it does. It exists. But

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Speaker 1: in a situation where winning is everything, I think you're

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Speaker 1: less likely to find it because they want to win.

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Speaker 1: That's the name of the game. Actually naming game is football.

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Speaker 1: But like Rich said, the whole point is to win.

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Speaker 1: So may the best man win I think is less

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Speaker 1: likely in this situation. But it always comes back to that.

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Speaker 1: And if not, then why are people screaming sabotage? Well again,

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Speaker 1: if you just joined us, Dylan Gabriel, got to play

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Speaker 1: with the better squad, the better talent. They're saying shad

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Speaker 1: Or Sanders wasn't set up to succeed. He hasn't been

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Speaker 1: set up to succeed in this moment. Five sacks, negative yardage,

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Speaker 1: sabotage or not your thoughts. You gotta let us know

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Speaker 1: and Covino and Rich at Fox Sports Radio or call us.

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Speaker 1: We're chimeing live. We're on YouTube line.

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Speaker 2: By the way, the opportunities now, record numbers of quarterbacks

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Speaker 2: are getting touches, injuries, little bang ups where a guy

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Speaker 2: misses a week. I believe there was some ridiculous number

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Speaker 2: of how many qbs got a chance last year in

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Speaker 2: the NFL. Shouldow Sandsers will get a chance, and he'll

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Speaker 2: get a chance to succeed. No one is rooting against

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Speaker 2: him in that organization. That would be like the most

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Speaker 2: foolish narrative of all time.

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Speaker 1: Unless his dad's working against him. There's a lot of

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Speaker 1: lot of whispers about that.

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Speaker 2: Well, I mean, listen, let's let's listen to RG three

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Speaker 2: and then when we come back, we're gonna take all

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Speaker 2: your feedback. The phones are hot. Your thoughts on Shador,

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Speaker 2: Kevin Stefanski, the Browns. Is it ridiculous to think sabotage?

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Speaker 2: Or is there a part of you that's like, no,

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Speaker 2: I could suit it. So listen to RG three and

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Speaker 2: then we'll break and come back.

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Speaker 1: Take a listen and make no mistakes about it.

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Speaker 10: Yes, Shadir Sanders was a fifth round pick, but he

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Speaker 10: ain't never been a fifth round talent. That's why on

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Speaker 10: his in his mind, he is saying, I can change

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Speaker 10: a franchise if you give me the opportunity to. Right now,

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Speaker 10: Cleveland is not doing that. I looked at the uh,

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Speaker 10: the snap count chart. We'll throw that up for you

480
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Speaker 10: guys on the screen, and people were saying, oh, he

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Speaker 10: was playing with the same guys that Dylan Gabriel was.

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Speaker 6: No, he wasn't.

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Speaker 10: No, he wasn't, he was not. He was playing with

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Speaker 10: the three fours and fives offensive line. How many sacks

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Speaker 10: did Shadar have in the game?

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Speaker 1: More than five? He had five?

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Speaker 10: Yeah, yeah, five sacks in the game playing behind the three,

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Speaker 10: four and five offensive line. Two of those sacks he

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Speaker 10: held the ball too long. The other ones he never

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Speaker 10: had a chance. Wide receivers. Did he play with the

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Speaker 10: same wide receivers that Dylan Gabriel did?

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Speaker 1: No, No, he didn't.

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Speaker 10: When Shader Sanders was put out there with the proper

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Speaker 10: talent around him, he excelled two touchdowns, shined on the

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Speaker 10: big stage. I know it was the preseason, but it

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Speaker 10: was the most watched preseason game in over a decade.

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Speaker 2: To me, Archie three is paid in the picture that

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Speaker 2: they're Shenanigans and I don't know Rich. Two things can

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Speaker 2: be true, and I hate to say that, but that's

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Speaker 2: where this debate often comes in.

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Speaker 1: It could be true that he didn't have all the

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Speaker 1: talent they're playing with him. In fact, it is based

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Speaker 1: on what RG three is saying. But can it also

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Speaker 1: be true that it's not sabotage and that wasn't intentional?

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Speaker 1: You know what?

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Speaker 2: I'm looking at our YouTube inshow thread. A lot of

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Speaker 2: great feedback there and the phones are all hot.

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Speaker 1: So we'll take all your feedback excited because I feel

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Speaker 1: like we explored every angle to this. So now we

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Speaker 1: turn to you Fox Sports Radio Nation next right here.

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Speaker 1: of y'all. It's a sabotage it. It's Covino and Rich

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Speaker 1: on Fox Sports Radio Live and the Fox Sports Radio

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Speaker 1: studios at Covino and Rich at Fox Sports Radio, and

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Speaker 1: the numbers eight seven, seven ninety nine. On Fox, We're

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Speaker 1: gonna play Iron Mike Trivia. Later talk to Aaron Rodgers.

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Speaker 1: But right now, Shador Sanders. It's the beginning of what's

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Speaker 1: to come, because we're gonna be talking about Shodoor Sanders

543
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Speaker 1: all season. He's just got that flare about him. He's

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Speaker 1: got the name, he's got the controversy. He has the skills,

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Speaker 1: but is it sabotage or not? Because the story goes

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Speaker 1: that Dylan Gabriel got to play with better talent, therefore

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Speaker 1: he put up big numbers and Shdor.

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Speaker 2: Sanders bigger numbers. Right now, it's it's not like he

549
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Speaker 2: was lighting up.

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Speaker 1: I mean, well, bigger numbers and he got a better opportunity.

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Speaker 1: Shador Sanders got to play with weaker talent, got sacked

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Speaker 1: five times, negative forty yards. They took him out during

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Speaker 1: the two minute drill where he could potentially show how

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Speaker 1: he shines in that moment. So the storyline is, well,

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Speaker 1: he's not being set up to succeed. Is it sabotage

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Speaker 1: or not? Now Rich and I are saying, look, this

557
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Speaker 1: is a game of winning and losing. What coach who

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Speaker 1: wants to keep his job is he gonna put the

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Speaker 1: best players out there? And it's the NFL? Is it racism?

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Speaker 1: Is it because he's too flashy? I think not? So

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Speaker 1: let's make that clear, Rich, I don't think it's sabotage

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Speaker 1: at all. I don't. I do believe also that he

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Speaker 1: was not set up to succeed in this situation. Right,

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Speaker 1: But then again, if Gabriel or whoever else was in

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Speaker 1: that situation. Neither were they. It just happened to be him.

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Speaker 1: Why does he get the special treatment because he should

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Speaker 1: or Sanders? You know, it could have been anybody in

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Speaker 1: that situation. So I do believe both. I believe he

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Speaker 1: was not set up to succeed in this moment, but

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Speaker 1: I don't believe it's sabotage against the guy. But then,

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Speaker 1: in the back of my mind, I'm also hearing yeah,

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Speaker 1: but then why was he the one hundred and forty

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Speaker 1: fourth pick. We all thought he was gonna go higher

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Speaker 1: than that. Yeah, I don't know. You know the nod.

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Speaker 2: It reminds me of I'll give you the dumbest analogy.

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Speaker 1: There have been people that have sued reality shows. I

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Speaker 1: don't know if you know this.

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Speaker 2: There's one particular case where a woman sued I believe,

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Speaker 2: like Idle or the Voice because they insisted on her

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Speaker 2: singing a song and then when she sang it to

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Speaker 2: like terrible song, choice you Goodbye, and she's like, we well,

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Speaker 2: you guys told me to sing that song, so I

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Speaker 2: get it.

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Speaker 1: Sometimes you're not rich, you know, Hold on, I'm sorry interrupt,

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Speaker 1: There's something in life. Yeah, and we've learned the hard way,

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Speaker 1: and it's called accountability. It's your career. People could guide

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Speaker 1: you and suggest or even say you have to but

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Speaker 1: at the beginning, middle, end, end of the day, it's

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Speaker 1: ultimately your choice. Rich and I have been in this

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Speaker 1: situation where we wish we would have said, no, we're

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Speaker 1: not gonna do that because our name's on the show,

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Speaker 1: but we followed people in charge moving forward. What have

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Speaker 1: we said now if we don't feel right about it,

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Speaker 1: we're not gonna do it. We're gonna speak up. Sorg

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Speaker 1: Sanders has to also take some accountability and and but

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Speaker 1: also situations.

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Speaker 2: But also when you're a rookie fifth round quarterback, like

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Speaker 2: you're not in you're not in the position to call

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Speaker 2: your shots. Let's go the feedback, because I do want

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Speaker 2: to hear from everyone. I do think it's interesting your

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Speaker 2: quick instinct, Ryan Danny g ORMONSI what if some I

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Speaker 2: know it's not gonna happen, but if he got cut,

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Speaker 2: which isn't crazy to say, I know they're going to keep,

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Speaker 2: you know, a big quarterback room. But if he had

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Speaker 2: got cut, is there another of the thirty one teams

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Speaker 2: that would have picked him up, or is this, like,

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Speaker 2: are we overvaluing these middle.

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Speaker 1: Colin Kaepernick, what did the kid do? Of course someone

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Speaker 1: would pick him up. No, but no, look at the

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Speaker 1: minimum he's selling jersey.

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Speaker 8: But Covino, look at the noise surrounding him right now.

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Speaker 8: I think teams would want to avoid that as far

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Speaker 8: as a backup quarterback goes.

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Speaker 1: You know what, I look at it differently and I

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Speaker 1: and that's true. Again, two things could be true. Danny

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Speaker 1: g is right, but it also has me tuning into

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Speaker 1: their bounds where I wouldn't carry to say.

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Speaker 2: If you say race, then you could say on the

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Speaker 2: other side, a guy like Tim Tebow was noise too.

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Speaker 2: It doesn't need to be you know, racial, Like there

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Speaker 2: are guys that it's like, hey, they come with a lot,

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Speaker 2: right like Tim Tebow came with a lot, should or

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Speaker 2: Sanders comes a lot. If the talent doesn't equal you

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Speaker 2: know all that it comes.

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Speaker 8: With, is it it? It would make your team a

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Speaker 8: lot more fun. Like off the air, I was asking

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Speaker 8: Ryan about the Raiders situation. They need a backup quarterback

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Speaker 8: right now because aid And O'Connell broke his wrist in

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Speaker 8: the final preseason game. Ryan, would you rather have Shador

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Speaker 8: Sanders as the backup or like Ryan Tannehill.

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Speaker 1: Sanders, Yeah, every day or twice on someday. Yeah. I

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Speaker 1: think the kid's exciting. The potentials there too. I mean

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Speaker 1: we got to factor that in. Like you said, rich A,

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Speaker 1: he's a rookie quarterback. It's his first year in the NFL.

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Speaker 1: He's gonna make some mistakes. He's not gonna know how

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Speaker 1: to handle it. He's gonna not be in control of

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Speaker 1: his situation all the time. But man, exciting to say

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Speaker 1: the least. So I see both sides, all sides. How

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Speaker 1: do you feel about it? Fox Sports Radio Nation. We're

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Speaker 1: going to the phones now eight seven to seven ninety

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Speaker 1: nine one five, Let's go cross Fire and then we'll

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Speaker 1: sabotage or not? What are we thinking?

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Speaker 3: No, no, no, no no. And again, I hope the kid succeeds.

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Speaker 3: I think he's got an issue because of Let's be honest,

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Speaker 3: if his dance thing was clip, nobody would even be

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Speaker 3: talking about this today, you know, if it wasn't Dion

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Speaker 3: and I think Deon's are a great polarizing you know,

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Speaker 3: you love him or hat him? Kind of deal. But

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Speaker 3: other than that, nobody would even care to start with.

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Speaker 3: And my other question is I didn't see the game.

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Speaker 3: So with his third, fourth, and fifth string starters, was

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Speaker 3: he playing against the first string defense or was he

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Speaker 3: playing against the third and fourth?

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Exactly Again, like I said, take any other team in

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Speaker 2: the National Football League when their second, third, or backup

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Speaker 2: quarterback is in the game, got any snaps.

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Speaker 1: It's the same thing.

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Speaker 2: And when guys get cut, it happens all the time,

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Speaker 2: not even Blaks and I. We're talking about this guy

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Speaker 2: getting sabotaged. Andre in Miami.

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Speaker 1: What's up? Man?

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Speaker 11: Hey, my guys listen, no sabotage.

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Speaker 12: Quick story, real quick story.

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Speaker 13: Jimmy Johnson and he got to Dallas Cowboys.

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Speaker 3: He was the University of Miami coach.

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Speaker 13: He had Steve Walsh as a quarterback.

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Speaker 12: Won a national championship.

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Speaker 3: In eighty seven.

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Speaker 13: Should have won an eighty eight. That wasn't a fubble

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Speaker 13: by Cleveland Garry.

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Speaker 3: They should have went back to back.

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Speaker 13: Anyhow, he goes to Dallas. He goes to Dallas. Steve

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Speaker 13: Walsh is his quarterback. But what does he do. He

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Speaker 13: goes and.

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Speaker 9: Gets Troy Aikman.

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Speaker 13: He was recruiting Troy Aigman in University of Miami, but

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Speaker 13: Aiightman went to Oklahoma instead before he transferred to u

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Speaker 13: c l A. And long story short is this coaches

681
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Speaker 13: want to win. Jimmy Jones had had a great relationship

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Speaker 13: with Steve Wall should have won two national championships, but

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Speaker 13: he dumped him for Troy Aikman. Why because he wants

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Speaker 13: to win?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and Jay feelings don't matter. It's about winning.

686
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Speaker 2: Andre is so right, and I agree, And I can

687
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Speaker 2: never really get what the narrative that like people are

688
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Speaker 2: in it for anything other than winning, especially a head

689
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Speaker 2: coach Kevin Stefanski, Like, you don't think this guy, this

690
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Speaker 2: guy's projected to be trash at the bottom of the

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Speaker 2: AFC North right like Cleveland's projected what three four five

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Speaker 2: wins at tops.

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Speaker 1: You don't think he wants to win and surprise everyone.

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Speaker 1: You think he wants all this? No way, Max in Kentucky,

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Speaker 1: it's up.

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Speaker 6: Alright, man, Oh, preseason is not about winning. It's about evaluating. Yeah,

697
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Speaker 6: you so people to evaluate, you need to keep the

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Speaker 6: young guy. And they brought Tyler Hunley in for injuries,

699
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Speaker 6: so they had no plans. Don't keep it in. There

700
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Speaker 6: was no reason to put him in.

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Speaker 2: That is one thing I do agree with. I just

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Speaker 2: think that was a weird call because they cut huntly.

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Speaker 2: Why not see what.

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Speaker 1: A controversy right, A little bit of everything going on here, JP,

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Speaker 1: and okase what's up? JP?

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Speaker 12: Hey guys the first time, long time. Appreciate you taking it.

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Speaker 6: Thank you?

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Speaker 12: Maybe like first thing you got to give credit to

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Speaker 12: Shador like not complaining publicly the way he's handled everything

710
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Speaker 12: with the media for the most part, he's done a

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Speaker 12: pretty good job. But not sabotage. I think, either earlier

712
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Speaker 12: today on the Dan Patrick Show or j Mack on

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Speaker 12: The Hurt either one saying that in the third game.

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Speaker 12: I didn't watch it, but he had the same line

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Speaker 12: as Bill and Gabriel had. Gabriel lit it up. He

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Speaker 12: didn't took that twenty three yard sack or whatever. It

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Speaker 12: was just brutal boils down. He's aye, that's what he.

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Speaker 3: Uts down to.

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Speaker 1: I get like, maybe right now, Yeah, who's rooting against

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Speaker 1: the guy? Is anybody rooting against greatness? I mean, I

721
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Speaker 1: would love to know. You must have a personal sort

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Speaker 1: of vendetta if you are. I'm not. I want to

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Speaker 1: see the guy do good.

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Speaker 2: I think it's people that get Rubb wrong by the

725
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Speaker 2: Sanders family, and I don't. I'm a Niners fan, so

726
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Speaker 2: Primetime brought us our left Super Bowl, so I'm a

727
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Speaker 2: deon fan. I like I like the story. I just

728
00:34:23,320 --> 00:34:25,839
Speaker 2: think sabotage is ridiculous. Let's go to Mansi for an update.

729
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Speaker 2: We'll take the rest of your feedback. Phones are hot,

730
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Speaker 2: so we'll keep it wronging. What's up months.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, sabotage seems a little bit yeah, crazy. I feel

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Speaker 5: like they took him out of that, and I know

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Speaker 5: that's weird, but at least he didn't get sacked for

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Speaker 5: a six or seven times.

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Speaker 4: Right, I mean, at least he didn't get hurt. At

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Speaker 4: least something bad didn't happen. I don't know, I don't know.

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Speaker 2: I think the reality is we all know that at

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Speaker 2: some point in the twenty twenty five football season we

739
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Speaker 2: will see Shudor Sanders.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I'm with that.

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Speaker 1: What more could you?

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Speaker 3: What? Right?

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Speaker 4: Yeah?

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Speaker 5: And if you're a Bengals fan, then you're gonna see

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Speaker 5: Trey Hendrickson.

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Speaker 4: So this just spent down.

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Speaker 5: They reached an agreement on a fourteen million dollar raise

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Speaker 5: for this year, so it boosted his salary to thirty million.

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Speaker 5: That is the deal. He is still scheduled to become

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Speaker 5: an unrestricted free agent after this season, so at least

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Speaker 5: Trey Hendrickson will be around for this season, at least

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Speaker 5: for the Bengals.

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Speaker 4: Another holdout has come to an end in Washington.

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Speaker 1: By the way, they needed that bigause.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, port Choe Burrow in his mood, he's like,

756
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Speaker 2: do I need to put up forty points a game?

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Speaker 1: Because without him on the defense it's.

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Speaker 4: A meager no. Now he needs to put out forty.

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00:35:23,960 --> 00:35:26,239
Speaker 4: He needed to put up fifty without him exactly. Now

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Speaker 4: he's gonna do put up forty.

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Speaker 5: The Commanders and wide receiver Terry McLaurin have also reached

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Speaker 5: an agreement on a three year extension worth ninety six million,

763
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Speaker 5: so that holdout is over. Texans announced that running back

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Speaker 5: Joe Mixon will not be activated from the non football

765
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Speaker 5: injury list by tomorrow's four pm Eastern deadline, So for

766
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Speaker 5: fantasy football, if you have not drafted him, know that

767
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Speaker 5: he is not going to be eligible to play for

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Speaker 5: the first four games of the regular season due to

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Speaker 5: that ankle injury. Raiders have signed five time Pro Bowl

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Speaker 5: wide receiver Amari Cooper to a one year deal. Also,

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Speaker 5: Raiders wide receiver Jacoby Myers has requested a trade after

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Speaker 5: contract extension talks came to all. When it comes to

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Speaker 5: the US Open, guys, Francis Tioffo. On the men's side,

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Speaker 5: right now, he is up. This is the first round

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Speaker 5: in tennis, won his first two sets, up four.

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Speaker 4: Games to two. Right now.

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Speaker 5: But on the women's side, a big upset. American six

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Speaker 5: seed Madison Keys. She won the Australian Open this year,

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Speaker 5: number six seed, lost her first round match to world

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Speaker 5: number eighty two. We're nada, Sara Sarasawa.

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Speaker 4: I don't know.

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Speaker 5: It's the second time in the last thirty years that

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Speaker 5: an American woman seated top ten lost in the first

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Speaker 5: round of the US Open.

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Speaker 4: Major upset.

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Speaker 1: Back to you guys, Thank you, Monty and Jess.

787
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Speaker 2: I think we can all agree that Washington Commanders fans

788
00:36:36,960 --> 00:36:39,200
Speaker 2: everywhere have to be rejoicing because the one little hang

789
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Speaker 2: up was like, how are we going to get back

790
00:36:40,960 --> 00:36:43,120
Speaker 2: to last year's glory? Well, how about you signed Terry

791
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Speaker 2: McLaurin and they did so we'll take all your feedback.

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Speaker 1: We'll talk more.

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Speaker 2: NFL Cavino Retchredd here on Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 1: Hell, yes, Tricky, Cavino and Rich live in the Fox

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Speaker 1: Sports Radio studio, and it's time for our ti Iraq

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Speaker 1: Play of the Day. Stick around, though, because we're gonna

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Speaker 1: get to your phone calls and wrap it up Shore Sanders.

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Speaker 1: But the play at ay sho hail Tani kept hearing

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Speaker 1: a heckler in San Diego and he had something for him.

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Speaker 14: And now here's cal Raley, fresh from setting the major

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Speaker 14: league record time. That's way to drive deep the left field.

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Speaker 14: More history, goodbye baseball, cal Rally with his historic forty

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Speaker 14: ninth home run of the year. Cal is it more

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Speaker 14: home runs than any catcher in the history of the

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Speaker 14: game of baseball? And he doesn't right away. On August

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Speaker 14: the twenty fourth, on a Sunday afternoon, here at t Mobile,

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Speaker 14: home run number forty nine on the year.

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Speaker 1: Ryan, do you have something against shoe hail Tani or

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Speaker 1: is it? Do you not like a TONI?

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Speaker 2: Well he's getting the right way. Well, you know what,

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Speaker 2: cal Raley, he can have the play of the day. Critesy,

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Speaker 1: The way Tyler pulling away with the MVP race. Unfortunately

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00:38:14,600 --> 00:38:17,440
Speaker 1: he's breaking records left and right. And yeah, but you

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00:38:17,480 --> 00:38:18,359
Speaker 1: did it at tire Rack.

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Speaker 8: You did a great intro Covino take two on showing

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Speaker 8: now we don't Yeah, yeah, yea, we got time.

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Speaker 1: Right, go ahead, let's go. It's worth it again, Shohey.

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Speaker 1: Otani kept hearing a Heckler in San Diego and he

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Speaker 1: had something for him. Bitch coming full Tonny.

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Speaker 15: It's a rocket's a right field, way back there and

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00:38:36,840 --> 00:38:41,200
Speaker 15: a way gone. The Dodgers with their fourth home run

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Speaker 15: of this Sunday afternoon in the forty fifth of the season.

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Speaker 1: For the reigning MVP. It's now eight to two. I

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Speaker 1: love that's how you win over a hater.

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Speaker 2: I love how he gave him a little bro hugg

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00:38:53,760 --> 00:38:56,200
Speaker 2: wrapped him up at you going to a fan and

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Speaker 2: that Padres fan gracefully game like a little like yeah, respect,

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Speaker 2: you're the man. That is a fantastic fan player interaction.

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00:39:04,920 --> 00:39:07,759
Speaker 2: If you haven't seen that clip, show Hey and a poster,

834
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Speaker 2: it's all.

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Speaker 1: About dude, you don't hate the guy. You just you're

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00:39:11,080 --> 00:39:12,000
Speaker 1: just rooting against him that.

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Speaker 2: You almost hate how good he is. Right, It's like

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00:39:13,920 --> 00:39:16,319
Speaker 2: how a Mets fan feels about Bryce Harper. You can't

839
00:39:16,360 --> 00:39:18,920
Speaker 2: hate Bryce Harper, you just hate how exadamn good he is.

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Speaker 2: All right, back to your phone calls. We'll take a

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Speaker 2: few more Shad or Sanders sabotage or or not. I mean,

842
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Speaker 2: I feel like he's a third string quarterback. If he's

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00:39:28,760 --> 00:39:31,319
Speaker 2: not a Sanders, this is even a conversation. Let's go

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Speaker 2: to Doug in Maryland.

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Speaker 11: Hey, Dougie, Doug Hey, Cleveland can keep him. Guys, I'm

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Speaker 11: a Raiders fan. I've been a Raiders fan for over

847
00:39:37,960 --> 00:39:40,040
Speaker 11: forty years. I don't want him on a Raiders and

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00:39:40,160 --> 00:39:43,839
Speaker 11: be JaMarcus Russell all over again. And you know he's

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Speaker 11: a project. He hasn't played against any first team defenses.

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00:39:47,640 --> 00:39:50,439
Speaker 11: Remember that. So any Raiders fan out there that wants

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00:39:50,480 --> 00:39:52,520
Speaker 11: him that let's pick a chance on him. They're crazy.

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Speaker 1: Remember what we said about accountability Rich He didn't put

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Speaker 1: himself necessarily in a position to succeed. Our buddy Drew

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00:40:00,280 --> 00:40:03,120
Speaker 1: Mack hit us up and reminded us. Word on the

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Speaker 1: streets was he didn't have that many great interviews to

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Speaker 1: begin with, So maybe if he handled that differently, he

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Speaker 1: would be in a different situation to do better.

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Speaker 2: But also I think we're also there's a lot of

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Speaker 2: potential talent there, Like if you were the Raiders, right, Like,

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Speaker 2: with all respect to Doug who just called, if you're

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Speaker 2: the Raiders and you got Geno Smith and like, you

862
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Speaker 2: know O'Connell's hurt now, but like who's your.

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Speaker 1: Backup now, Danny cam Miller?

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Speaker 2: Like cam Miller, like you tell me you wouldn't wash

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Speaker 2: your door Sanders come out. Of course you would, because

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Speaker 2: there's just potential. It may not pan out, but you

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Speaker 2: tell me, the athleticism and just what Shador could bring,

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Speaker 2: you wouldn't want more than cam Miller.

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Speaker 1: I'm sure you would. It's obvious. Speaking of backups, did

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Speaker 1: you see that Carson Wentz went to the Vikings over

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Speaker 1: the weekend, his fifth team in the past five years.

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Speaker 1: Danny g and I were talking about that, like so

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Speaker 1: crazy how his career went with he went from on

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Speaker 1: his way to winning a Super Bowl.

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Speaker 2: Nick Foles takes over and then since then, poor Carson Wentzy, Hey, listen,

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Speaker 2: he's made a ton of money and stuff, but just

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Speaker 2: I'm crazy to see right, it went off the rails.

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Speaker 2: That is a wild story maybe we dive into. But

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Speaker 2: we got more NFL and we're getting close to pen

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Speaker 2: races in baseball, so hang tight.