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Speaker 1: to The Herd podcast. Here we go, hour two and

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Speaker 1: a Monday. Man Hasselback five minutes away. We're live. It's

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Speaker 1: The Herd last night, as good as the NFL gets

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Speaker 1: Niners edge pass, the Chicago Bears drama in Pittsburgh. Who's

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Speaker 1: left offensively to help? Aaron Rodgers, San Francisco and Seattle?

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Speaker 1: How good is that? It is great to have you

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Speaker 1: in a Monday. Let's not waste any time. Where Colin

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Speaker 1: Colin was right, well well, well slinging Sammy Darnold. You

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Speaker 1: know quarterback with consecutive thirteen win seasons in NFL history.

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Speaker 1: It's Brady Manning, Rogers, Farv and Sam Darnald. Yeah, he's

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Speaker 1: in pretty good company. Just goes to show your first

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Speaker 1: the occasional mistake always looking forward. He and JSN, by

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Speaker 2: Where Colin was wrong.

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Speaker 1: Probably been a little tough on brock Purty, or maybe

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Speaker 1: he's just getting better because the last month brock Purty's aggressiveness,

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Speaker 1: efficiency movement has been stuff for the Ages. And let

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Speaker 1: I know, Garoppolo was good in San Francisco, it wasn't

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Speaker 1: It doesn't change his mood or body language. The number

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Speaker 1: I had predicted New England will be a playoff team.

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Speaker 1: They're going to be the double your win total team.

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Speaker 1: They tripled it and they fixed everything in one season.

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Speaker 1: Remember when we didn't like their wide receiver room, Well,

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Speaker 1: This could? I don't know, but this was to me

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Speaker 1: the easiest offseason call. With all that free agent money,

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Speaker 2: Where Colin was wronged.

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Speaker 1: The Colts have lost six straight. Maybe they shouldn't give

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Speaker 1: Here we go. It's our two Rams come back and

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Speaker 1: Good to have you today. So the college football playoff tomorrow. Miami.

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Speaker 1: Eight game winning streak, best fourth quarter differential in the league.

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Speaker 1: The Rams don't trust their special teams lost three to five,

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Speaker 1: Seattle wins when Darnold throws picks. I've watched San Francisco

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Speaker 3: Three teams in the NFC West make your top five.

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Speaker 2: That is insane.

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Speaker 1: Colin. If I had said the Jags.

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Speaker 1: Me off the show. Jacksonville, that is an unbelievable story.

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Speaker 1: Jacksonville is one of those teams if you know you can't,

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Speaker 3: No Mahomes, no Burrow, no Lamar. The tide has turned

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Speaker 1: Huh oh my gosh.

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Speaker 1: AH welcome back. It is a Friday of this hour

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Speaker 1: or two. I'm telling you, this new college football world

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Speaker 1: got me all geeked up. Miami Hurricanes, Braby, the swag

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Speaker 2: This is crazy.

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Speaker 1: That's so much fun. Yesterday. I don't know what my

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Speaker 1: least this year, and we were two and three. Let's

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Speaker 1: Here we go, Let's blaze it up, right it up.

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Speaker 2: It's Collins Blazon fuck Seahawks at forty nine ers.

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Speaker 1: Winner gets the number one seed. I like Seattle minus

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Speaker 1: the more athletic, younger, deeper roster JSN back to back

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Speaker 1: the road, as they often do. Twenty seven to twenty three.

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Speaker 1: Brown said Fingals. I've been taking the Bengals recently a lot,

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Speaker 1: I'll take the Bears minus two and a half at home.

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Speaker 1: Number three rushing offense, and the Lions cannot stop the run.

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Speaker 1: in three straight games. This matchup favors Chicago again. Caleb

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Speaker 1: Sean McVay has ticked off rams to win and cover.

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Speaker 1: It's a get right spot for LA lost to Atlanta

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Speaker 1: They've outgained opponents in six straight games. They're twelve and

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Speaker 1: think Sean McVay would pour it on if he could.

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Speaker 1: Here's my one underdog. I think it's close. I'm going

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I like your Rams case. I'm going to be

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Speaker 3: Remember they got smoked by thirty in Detroit earlier this year.

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Speaker 3: But Dan Campbell his guys don't pack it in and

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Speaker 3: He doesn't operate like that. I don't know what to

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Speaker 1: what's great to see again? Happy Holidays, Happy New Year

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Speaker 1: So Ohio States last two games, Ryan Day takes over

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Colin, You're one hundred percent right.

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Speaker 5: It's a very weird transition, especially when you haven't been

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Speaker 5: You know what, Charlie Weist junior, you know, allowing him

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Speaker 5: If you're really trying to win the big one, you

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Speaker 4: You haven't.

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Speaker 5: You haven't done this all season and in a number

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Speaker 1: What do you make Fernando Mendoza. I know it's college,

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Speaker 1: His receiving core is Becker cashes everything. I love Mendoza.

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Speaker 1: You know, I'm a old school I like my quarterbacks,

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Speaker 5: I love Fernando Mendoza because Bannana Mendoza knows who he is.

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Speaker 5: But the thing I love about him is he's going

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Speaker 5: literally ran over Alabama. So I love Fernando. I think

434
00:24:18,680 --> 00:24:20,200
Speaker 5: he's the first round pick. I think he's a top

435
00:24:20,240 --> 00:24:23,040
Speaker 5: ten pick. I think coaches are gonna love him. He's

436
00:24:23,240 --> 00:24:25,919
Speaker 5: a big kid. Like you said, size does matter, but

437
00:24:25,960 --> 00:24:27,840
Speaker 5: he can make every throw on the field and he's

438
00:24:27,880 --> 00:24:29,240
Speaker 5: not afraid of the big moments.

439
00:24:29,560 --> 00:24:30,720
Speaker 4: So when you have a rookie.

440
00:24:30,480 --> 00:24:32,280
Speaker 5: Quarterback coming in, those coaches are like, art, is he

441
00:24:32,320 --> 00:24:33,520
Speaker 5: gonna do what I ask him to do?

442
00:24:33,800 --> 00:24:36,320
Speaker 4: Can he make plays that maybe aren't there?

443
00:24:36,600 --> 00:24:38,800
Speaker 5: With his arm, talent and with his ability to think

444
00:24:39,040 --> 00:24:40,720
Speaker 5: and he can do all those things. And if he

445
00:24:40,720 --> 00:24:43,440
Speaker 5: gets in a great situation with weapons around him, That's

446
00:24:43,480 --> 00:24:45,639
Speaker 5: where I think he can truly truly excel. Is he

447
00:24:45,680 --> 00:24:48,919
Speaker 5: a guy that's gonna save a franchise because he's, you know,

448
00:24:49,200 --> 00:24:52,960
Speaker 5: super dynamic, off schedule play type guy. No, but if

449
00:24:53,000 --> 00:24:55,080
Speaker 5: you work with him and put the right guys around him,

450
00:24:55,200 --> 00:24:56,360
Speaker 5: he can win you a super Bowl.

451
00:24:56,440 --> 00:24:57,440
Speaker 4: So I really do.

452
00:24:57,520 --> 00:24:59,520
Speaker 5: Like Brenanda Mendoz and I think with him and Kurz

453
00:24:59,520 --> 00:25:02,520
Speaker 5: Signetti done at Indiana is one of the best turnarounds

454
00:25:02,520 --> 00:25:03,080
Speaker 5: I've ever seen.

455
00:25:04,240 --> 00:25:10,080
Speaker 1: You know, it's interesting, Robert with the transfer portal, it is,

456
00:25:10,520 --> 00:25:13,080
Speaker 1: it takes a while to bring in eleven new guys,

457
00:25:13,320 --> 00:25:18,480
Speaker 1: nine starters. Like I watched Miami lose Louisville. I didn't

458
00:25:18,480 --> 00:25:21,359
Speaker 1: watch the whole game, but I watch it. And the

459
00:25:21,400 --> 00:25:24,360
Speaker 1: moment to me when I bought into Miami was when

460
00:25:24,400 --> 00:25:28,200
Speaker 1: they beat Pitt and I'm like, warm Weather team goes

461
00:25:28,240 --> 00:25:30,640
Speaker 1: to Pitt and I'm like, oh yeah, thirty eight seven.

462
00:25:30,680 --> 00:25:32,440
Speaker 1: I was like. And then I went that day and

463
00:25:32,520 --> 00:25:34,600
Speaker 1: I started looking at common opponents with Notre Dame and

464
00:25:34,640 --> 00:25:39,120
Speaker 1: I'm like, no, they're different, They're they're different. I think

465
00:25:39,160 --> 00:25:42,960
Speaker 1: Miami matches up with Indiana. I mean, what do you

466
00:25:43,000 --> 00:25:45,359
Speaker 1: make about that, because I think Indiana and Miami just

467
00:25:45,400 --> 00:25:50,679
Speaker 1: feel like that is it's destined to me. I've watched

468
00:25:50,720 --> 00:25:54,720
Speaker 1: Indiana go to Atson and really roll Oregon. What do

469
00:25:54,760 --> 00:25:57,600
Speaker 1: you make of this Miami story this year, how they

470
00:25:57,680 --> 00:26:00,840
Speaker 1: lost a Louisville and SMU and we're just kind of

471
00:26:00,840 --> 00:26:02,000
Speaker 1: found themselves.

472
00:26:02,720 --> 00:26:08,119
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think your point of about Miami it really

473
00:26:08,280 --> 00:26:12,280
Speaker 5: became something for me when they decided we're not going

474
00:26:12,320 --> 00:26:16,720
Speaker 5: to be the Carson Beck led Miami Hurricanes. Right, they

475
00:26:16,800 --> 00:26:19,680
Speaker 5: paid them a bunch of money reports of four million

476
00:26:19,720 --> 00:26:22,280
Speaker 5: dollar contract, and you know, early in the year it

477
00:26:22,400 --> 00:26:24,200
Speaker 5: was like, all right, Carson, go throw us to a

478
00:26:24,320 --> 00:26:29,200
Speaker 5: national championship. And I think Mario Christaball and their staff realize, like, Okay,

479
00:26:30,119 --> 00:26:32,679
Speaker 5: that's not going to be our recipe for success. Not

480
00:26:32,720 --> 00:26:34,880
Speaker 5: that Carson Beck can't do it, but the way our

481
00:26:34,960 --> 00:26:37,440
Speaker 5: team is built and how we're built at the skill

482
00:26:37,520 --> 00:26:39,960
Speaker 5: positions and in the trenches is really what's going to

483
00:26:40,000 --> 00:26:41,680
Speaker 5: lead this team to success.

484
00:26:41,920 --> 00:26:43,560
Speaker 4: And I think that's really any of us.

485
00:26:43,600 --> 00:26:45,080
Speaker 5: You get a brand new toy, you want to play

486
00:26:45,080 --> 00:26:46,360
Speaker 5: at the brand new tour, and you want to make

487
00:26:46,359 --> 00:26:48,919
Speaker 5: that tour the feature. But sometimes you got to go

488
00:26:49,000 --> 00:26:51,480
Speaker 5: back to the trenches, which is where football is always won.

489
00:26:52,160 --> 00:26:55,080
Speaker 5: And that's where Baying and Mesidor and these guys up

490
00:26:55,160 --> 00:26:59,040
Speaker 5: front make me believe that college football is more.

491
00:26:58,880 --> 00:27:00,760
Speaker 4: Like the NFL than it's been Colin.

492
00:27:01,160 --> 00:27:03,480
Speaker 5: You got to be able to win up front, just

493
00:27:03,520 --> 00:27:05,520
Speaker 5: like every level, right, but you got to have.

494
00:27:05,560 --> 00:27:07,119
Speaker 4: Closers on the outside.

495
00:27:07,400 --> 00:27:09,399
Speaker 5: And the teams that have closers on the outside are

496
00:27:09,400 --> 00:27:13,200
Speaker 5: the ones that we're seeing playing in the college football semifinals,

497
00:27:13,440 --> 00:27:15,919
Speaker 5: or they just have elite quarterback play. So I think

498
00:27:16,000 --> 00:27:17,600
Speaker 5: Miami made the decision right in the middle of the

499
00:27:17,680 --> 00:27:19,560
Speaker 5: year to be like, you know what, Yes, we paid

500
00:27:19,560 --> 00:27:21,840
Speaker 5: our quarterback a lot of money, but this is how

501
00:27:21,840 --> 00:27:23,600
Speaker 5: we're going to win, and we just need him to

502
00:27:23,600 --> 00:27:26,000
Speaker 5: make five throws a game to win us a game

503
00:27:26,240 --> 00:27:27,120
Speaker 5: and not turn.

504
00:27:26,960 --> 00:27:27,680
Speaker 4: The football over.

505
00:27:27,880 --> 00:27:30,360
Speaker 5: And I think Carson Beck has has accepted that challenge

506
00:27:30,400 --> 00:27:32,520
Speaker 5: and done a great job for them down the stretch.

507
00:27:32,520 --> 00:27:34,800
Speaker 5: I'm happy for Miami third place ACC team and the

508
00:27:34,800 --> 00:27:37,919
Speaker 5: College of Balls semifinals. You know, you know how I

509
00:27:37,920 --> 00:27:39,200
Speaker 5: feel about conference bias.

510
00:27:39,280 --> 00:27:44,480
Speaker 1: So I think there are there, Yeah, there are three

511
00:27:44,600 --> 00:27:46,760
Speaker 1: teams in here who could be great. I don't think

512
00:27:46,800 --> 00:27:48,280
Speaker 1: Old miss is one of them. I don't think they're

513
00:27:48,280 --> 00:27:51,359
Speaker 1: good enough defensively. I just I just love Trinidad Chamblis.

514
00:27:51,520 --> 00:27:55,439
Speaker 1: I just love him. I get little dak vibes. I

515
00:27:55,440 --> 00:27:57,960
Speaker 1: don't think they're good enough defensively. Is that fair? That

516
00:27:58,080 --> 00:27:59,960
Speaker 1: Ole miss? It? Just I don't think they can make

517
00:28:00,080 --> 00:28:04,119
Speaker 1: big stops in big spots in this, in this going forward?

518
00:28:04,240 --> 00:28:05,320
Speaker 1: Or do you see it differently?

519
00:28:05,880 --> 00:28:08,720
Speaker 5: I think it's fair because Georgia put thirty four on them,

520
00:28:08,960 --> 00:28:13,360
Speaker 5: and Georgia hasn't been this juggernaut of an offense all

521
00:28:13,440 --> 00:28:15,840
Speaker 5: year long. Even though I respect the guys that they have,

522
00:28:16,040 --> 00:28:19,480
Speaker 5: especially the moxie of Gunner Stockton, but when you look

523
00:28:19,520 --> 00:28:21,240
Speaker 5: at Trinidad Chambliss.

524
00:28:20,760 --> 00:28:23,919
Speaker 4: You see these types of plays. But he's also making

525
00:28:23,960 --> 00:28:25,360
Speaker 4: the on schedule throw.

526
00:28:25,520 --> 00:28:28,640
Speaker 5: Yeah, you know the heat check touchdown that he threw

527
00:28:29,160 --> 00:28:32,080
Speaker 5: after the interception that really kind of, you know, blew

528
00:28:32,119 --> 00:28:34,200
Speaker 5: the game out for them and had them more of

529
00:28:34,320 --> 00:28:36,000
Speaker 5: a situation where they felt like they could win.

530
00:28:36,440 --> 00:28:38,680
Speaker 4: This guy's story is incredible. You know, D two.

531
00:28:38,640 --> 00:28:42,280
Speaker 5: National champion at Fair State, zero star recruit coming out

532
00:28:42,320 --> 00:28:44,360
Speaker 5: of high school and then he's not even the starter

533
00:28:44,440 --> 00:28:47,000
Speaker 5: coming into this season. Starter goes down, he steps in,

534
00:28:47,160 --> 00:28:50,040
Speaker 5: never looks back. So I just think this whole You know,

535
00:28:50,080 --> 00:28:54,240
Speaker 5: we love stories Colin in college football. His story is phenomenal.

536
00:28:54,360 --> 00:28:57,800
Speaker 5: The fact that Lane Kitten isn't there anymore, and Ole

537
00:28:57,880 --> 00:29:00,680
Speaker 5: Miss is in the college football semi final with the

538
00:29:00,720 --> 00:29:04,600
Speaker 5: coaching staff that old that Lane Kevin put together is

539
00:29:04,720 --> 00:29:08,400
Speaker 5: just fascinating. If they win the national championship, there's gonna

540
00:29:08,440 --> 00:29:12,560
Speaker 5: be a movie made about this. Right now, me, do

541
00:29:12,840 --> 00:29:15,000
Speaker 5: we should direct that movie? This is it's phenomenal.

542
00:29:15,040 --> 00:29:15,160
Speaker 3: Man.

543
00:29:15,240 --> 00:29:18,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, I said earlier. He's from a big rapids Michigan,

544
00:29:18,080 --> 00:29:19,800
Speaker 1: and it can't be that big because I've never heard

545
00:29:19,840 --> 00:29:22,400
Speaker 1: of it. And my wife's from Michigan. So I love

546
00:29:22,480 --> 00:29:25,960
Speaker 1: the kid's story. It's amazing. Okay, So you know I

547
00:29:26,000 --> 00:29:27,680
Speaker 1: said to most of me, at least me, when I

548
00:29:27,720 --> 00:29:30,360
Speaker 1: was twenty years old. You know, you got your car's

549
00:29:30,400 --> 00:29:32,600
Speaker 1: breaking down, you don't love your boss. It's hard to

550
00:29:32,600 --> 00:29:36,320
Speaker 1: be twenty and a lot of quarterbacking in this league

551
00:29:36,320 --> 00:29:39,360
Speaker 1: at twenty, you usually don't get Andy Reider Sean Payton.

552
00:29:39,800 --> 00:29:42,240
Speaker 1: You get into an organization where the GM loved you

553
00:29:42,280 --> 00:29:45,200
Speaker 1: and the coach didn't. There's politics, there's an impulsive bok.

554
00:29:45,600 --> 00:29:46,080
Speaker 2: You know this.

555
00:29:49,360 --> 00:29:52,440
Speaker 1: So Sam Darnold goes to New York. He's twenty. He's

556
00:29:52,440 --> 00:29:54,720
Speaker 1: a good looking kidd. He's in New York. He's a

557
00:29:54,800 --> 00:29:57,840
Speaker 1: quarterback for an NFL team. He gets sick. You know,

558
00:29:57,920 --> 00:29:59,959
Speaker 1: half the people in the building aren't sure about him,

559
00:30:00,040 --> 00:30:02,280
Speaker 1: and I'm like, this is just a twenty year old kid.

560
00:30:03,360 --> 00:30:06,600
Speaker 1: I find it. I think he's really special. But I

561
00:30:06,680 --> 00:30:10,680
Speaker 1: understand all the reckless talk is somebody who's played the position.

562
00:30:11,560 --> 00:30:13,520
Speaker 1: I look at him and I'm thinking, nobody can win

563
00:30:13,560 --> 00:30:16,840
Speaker 1: in New York. I looked at him at Carolina winning record.

564
00:30:16,840 --> 00:30:18,960
Speaker 1: They loved him in San Francisco, they love him in Minnesota,

565
00:30:19,000 --> 00:30:22,080
Speaker 1: they love him in Seattle. Nobody or do you see

566
00:30:22,160 --> 00:30:25,400
Speaker 1: him as a there's limitations he is reckless. How do

567
00:30:25,480 --> 00:30:26,320
Speaker 1: you view Donald?

568
00:30:28,200 --> 00:30:31,520
Speaker 5: Wow, I've viewed Sam Donald as the classic case of

569
00:30:31,560 --> 00:30:35,960
Speaker 5: an organization failing a young quarterback. I've always felt this way,

570
00:30:36,000 --> 00:30:39,080
Speaker 5: Colin that, you know, because of my own experience and

571
00:30:39,120 --> 00:30:41,880
Speaker 5: what I've seen in NFL history. If you don't believe

572
00:30:42,400 --> 00:30:46,280
Speaker 5: in a quarterback, holy you know, head coach, GM owner,

573
00:30:46,640 --> 00:30:49,800
Speaker 5: don't draft him. Look a look at New Orleans, right,

574
00:30:50,160 --> 00:30:54,760
Speaker 5: the owner loves Tyler Shuck. The GM loves Tyler Shuck,

575
00:30:55,240 --> 00:30:59,040
Speaker 5: and the head coach Kela Morrett loves Tyler Shuck. So

576
00:30:59,080 --> 00:31:02,240
Speaker 5: what do they do. They allow him to make mistakes. Yeah,

577
00:31:02,280 --> 00:31:05,200
Speaker 5: and they allow him to play confidently so he can

578
00:31:05,200 --> 00:31:07,840
Speaker 5: play himself out of a rut. And now Tyler Shuck

579
00:31:08,200 --> 00:31:10,320
Speaker 5: is looking like one of the best rookie quarterbacks out there,

580
00:31:10,400 --> 00:31:13,320
Speaker 5: especially win loss wise. I know wins on a quarterback staff,

581
00:31:13,360 --> 00:31:15,640
Speaker 5: but yeah, when lost, he's playing at a really, really

582
00:31:15,720 --> 00:31:18,000
Speaker 5: high level. When you watch the tape I called his

583
00:31:18,040 --> 00:31:20,040
Speaker 5: game against the Carolina Panthers where they won, and he

584
00:31:20,080 --> 00:31:22,479
Speaker 5: came back late in the game to lead them to victory.

585
00:31:23,120 --> 00:31:23,840
Speaker 4: He's confident.

586
00:31:24,480 --> 00:31:27,400
Speaker 5: Sam Darnold has one of the most special arms I've

587
00:31:27,440 --> 00:31:27,960
Speaker 5: ever seen.

588
00:31:28,000 --> 00:31:29,479
Speaker 4: And I've known him since high school.

589
00:31:29,840 --> 00:31:30,040
Speaker 1: You know.

590
00:31:30,200 --> 00:31:32,160
Speaker 5: I went to an All Star game with him and

591
00:31:32,400 --> 00:31:35,240
Speaker 5: helped coach them, and he was talented way back then.

592
00:31:35,840 --> 00:31:37,360
Speaker 5: So when you look at what he's been through in

593
00:31:37,360 --> 00:31:41,640
Speaker 5: his career, every quarterback now this myth that man, he

594
00:31:41,680 --> 00:31:44,720
Speaker 5: can do it by himself. It's just not true unless

595
00:31:44,760 --> 00:31:48,520
Speaker 5: you're just a physical specimen like Cam Newton was in

596
00:31:48,560 --> 00:31:51,080
Speaker 5: twenty fifteen when he won MVP and led his team

597
00:31:51,080 --> 00:31:53,640
Speaker 5: to the Super Bowl. But even then, he still had

598
00:31:53,680 --> 00:31:55,960
Speaker 5: Louke Keigley on defense, and he had Greg Olsen on

599
00:31:56,000 --> 00:31:57,760
Speaker 5: offense right Steve Smith.

600
00:31:57,480 --> 00:31:58,200
Speaker 4: A wide receiver.

601
00:31:58,280 --> 00:32:02,640
Speaker 5: So like quarterback today, Colin have to have guys around them.

602
00:32:03,000 --> 00:32:06,200
Speaker 5: Sam Donald having Jackson Smith and Jig with this season,

603
00:32:06,960 --> 00:32:10,840
Speaker 5: you know last year having Justin Jefferson at wide receiver,

604
00:32:11,720 --> 00:32:14,440
Speaker 5: that makes dividends for a QB to the point where

605
00:32:14,520 --> 00:32:19,120
Speaker 5: you hear this game manager versus game changer conversation throw

606
00:32:19,200 --> 00:32:22,160
Speaker 5: that you know, ish out the window. That doesn't make

607
00:32:22,200 --> 00:32:25,320
Speaker 5: any sense anymore. Every quarterback has to have guys around

608
00:32:25,400 --> 00:32:27,880
Speaker 5: Jalen Hurts has two number one wide receivers and number

609
00:32:27,880 --> 00:32:30,960
Speaker 5: one tied end whi is Patrick Mahomes, and the chief

610
00:32:30,960 --> 00:32:34,040
Speaker 5: struggled so much recently. Well, they don't have a true

611
00:32:34,200 --> 00:32:37,640
Speaker 5: game breaking number one tight end anymore because Travis Kelce

612
00:32:37,840 --> 00:32:40,320
Speaker 5: is older and they don't have Tyreek Hill. It's just

613
00:32:40,440 --> 00:32:43,240
Speaker 5: tough sledding for quarterbacks in this league, with how good

614
00:32:43,240 --> 00:32:45,920
Speaker 5: the defensive rushes and how good the dbs are now

615
00:32:46,160 --> 00:32:50,280
Speaker 5: to not have number one type receivers and number one

616
00:32:50,360 --> 00:32:53,200
Speaker 5: type weapons that were tight end and running back. So

617
00:32:53,240 --> 00:32:55,400
Speaker 5: I think Sam Donald has that now and that's why

618
00:32:55,440 --> 00:32:58,040
Speaker 5: you're seeing me excel. And I think that the Seahawks

619
00:32:58,040 --> 00:33:01,160
Speaker 5: aren't getting the credit they deserve it because of Sam Donald.

620
00:33:01,480 --> 00:33:03,160
Speaker 5: No one believes that he can get it done in

621
00:33:03,200 --> 00:33:05,840
Speaker 5: the playoffs, and I don't. I wouldn't say that's not fair,

622
00:33:05,840 --> 00:33:08,520
Speaker 5: because life isn't fair. We know that otherwise we probably

623
00:33:08,560 --> 00:33:10,240
Speaker 5: would both be doing some some other things that we

624
00:33:10,640 --> 00:33:12,640
Speaker 5: wanted to do or whatever, even though we're enjoying what

625
00:33:12,680 --> 00:33:15,320
Speaker 5: we're doing. I think Sam Donald at the end of

626
00:33:15,360 --> 00:33:18,040
Speaker 5: the day, has to prove in the playoffs by winning

627
00:33:18,040 --> 00:33:20,600
Speaker 5: and going on a run that his talent is exactly

628
00:33:20,600 --> 00:33:22,200
Speaker 5: what we see. And I believe in the young man,

629
00:33:22,240 --> 00:33:24,000
Speaker 5: So I don't think he's limited. I think he's just

630
00:33:24,080 --> 00:33:26,640
Speaker 5: the right amount of reckless with the right guys around him.

631
00:33:27,080 --> 00:33:31,440
Speaker 1: So the the enigma of the season has been Baltimore

632
00:33:32,000 --> 00:33:36,000
Speaker 1: and Lamar Jackson. And I said this the other day

633
00:33:36,000 --> 00:33:37,880
Speaker 1: and people are like, whoa, wha wha. I said, Listen,

634
00:33:38,600 --> 00:33:41,760
Speaker 1: in my life, there's always six quarterbacks that if you're

635
00:33:41,800 --> 00:33:44,760
Speaker 1: the GM, you don't even take a call. It doesn't

636
00:33:44,800 --> 00:33:47,520
Speaker 1: matter if somebody offers you three number ones. You don't

637
00:33:47,560 --> 00:33:52,920
Speaker 1: take a call on Mahomes, Josh Allen. I wouldn't take

638
00:33:52,960 --> 00:33:56,280
Speaker 1: one on Caleb or Drake May. I'm just not there,

639
00:33:57,160 --> 00:33:59,720
Speaker 1: I'm not. I wouldn't take one on C. J. Stroud

640
00:33:59,880 --> 00:34:03,400
Speaker 1: or Herbert that's my six and I'm just not taking

641
00:34:03,400 --> 00:34:07,280
Speaker 1: a call. Then there are guys Joe Burrow and Lamar.

642
00:34:07,800 --> 00:34:14,600
Speaker 1: I'm not going to initiate the call, but maybe injuries expense,

643
00:34:15,080 --> 00:34:18,600
Speaker 1: I'll take a call. Probably won't move him, but I'll

644
00:34:18,640 --> 00:34:21,880
Speaker 1: take a phone call on Jalen Hurts or Joe Burrow

645
00:34:21,920 --> 00:34:24,480
Speaker 1: because Burrow's one more injury away from we get a

646
00:34:24,560 --> 00:34:27,279
Speaker 1: draft the quarterback. So this whole year for Lamar is

647
00:34:27,320 --> 00:34:31,719
Speaker 1: he's twenty nine, He's missed seventeen starts, his cap hit,

648
00:34:31,760 --> 00:34:35,399
Speaker 1: his monstrous and all of a sudden this year RG three,

649
00:34:35,520 --> 00:34:39,600
Speaker 1: RGT Robert Griffin, he wasn't as fast. What am I

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Speaker 1: to do with Lamar? I know he's great, but is

651
00:34:42,760 --> 00:34:46,200
Speaker 1: it possible at twenty nine that he has slightly moved

652
00:34:46,280 --> 00:34:49,720
Speaker 1: out of his prime? You watched him, it doesn't feel

653
00:34:49,760 --> 00:34:52,000
Speaker 1: the same. What is it with Art Well? What is

654
00:34:52,040 --> 00:34:52,600
Speaker 1: it with Lamar?

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Speaker 4: This year?

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Speaker 1: Oh?

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Speaker 4: Man?

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00:34:55,000 --> 00:34:55,040
Speaker 1: What?

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Speaker 4: Okay?

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Speaker 5: First of all, I think when you look at Joe Burrow,

661
00:34:58,400 --> 00:35:00,560
Speaker 5: Joe Burrow's actually come out and said like, I don't

662
00:35:00,600 --> 00:35:02,399
Speaker 5: know if I love the game anymore. And I think

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Speaker 5: that that's a different conversation. Lamar has never come out

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Speaker 5: and said anything like that. So I think Baltimore Ravens

665
00:35:09,200 --> 00:35:10,640
Speaker 5: fans would burn the city to the ground if the

666
00:35:10,719 --> 00:35:14,480
Speaker 5: Ravens traded Comar tacks. And I mean that wholeheartedly, and

667
00:35:14,520 --> 00:35:17,120
Speaker 5: having been there and knowing how he is, I did

668
00:35:17,160 --> 00:35:20,279
Speaker 5: read the article that came out that was bashing him.

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00:35:20,520 --> 00:35:23,000
Speaker 5: You know, I thought it was bush league to make

670
00:35:23,040 --> 00:35:26,320
Speaker 5: those statements. And coach Harball, you know the John Harball

671
00:35:26,320 --> 00:35:28,799
Speaker 5: that I know, you know, the greatest coach I ever

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00:35:28,840 --> 00:35:30,840
Speaker 5: played for in the NFL. And I wasn't even a

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00:35:30,840 --> 00:35:32,720
Speaker 5: starter for the Ravens. I was the backup. But watching

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Speaker 5: him operate the way he handled that when it came

675
00:35:35,600 --> 00:35:37,160
Speaker 5: to the press and see and he talked and he

676
00:35:37,200 --> 00:35:39,719
Speaker 5: defended Lamar and he said, our relationship is great. If

677
00:35:39,719 --> 00:35:41,760
Speaker 5: you want to know what I think, asked me that question,

678
00:35:42,000 --> 00:35:44,120
Speaker 5: and that to me, it kills it in the locker room.

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00:35:44,719 --> 00:35:46,840
Speaker 4: And that's what's the most important thing here. If Lamar

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00:35:46,920 --> 00:35:48,840
Speaker 4: Jackson had lost the locker room, this would be a

681
00:35:48,880 --> 00:35:51,879
Speaker 4: real conversation. But I've got great relationships in that locker

682
00:35:51,960 --> 00:35:54,240
Speaker 4: room still still to this day. They love Lamar.

683
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Speaker 5: Yeah, they'd love for him to stay healthy and stay

684
00:35:57,760 --> 00:35:59,920
Speaker 5: on the field. Are they going to be more confident

685
00:36:00,040 --> 00:36:02,600
Speaker 5: with Lamar out there in this game against the Steelers,

686
00:36:02,600 --> 00:36:04,920
Speaker 5: with which is basically a playing game. Yeah, They're going

687
00:36:04,960 --> 00:36:07,120
Speaker 5: to be much more confident with him at QB because

688
00:36:07,160 --> 00:36:09,759
Speaker 5: he's their guy. The city loves him, and I've heard

689
00:36:09,760 --> 00:36:11,800
Speaker 5: the rumors of Miami may be coming and trying to

690
00:36:11,840 --> 00:36:15,240
Speaker 5: snag him because that's where are Yeah, and who wouldn't

691
00:36:15,280 --> 00:36:17,520
Speaker 5: want to play at home? First of all, he would

692
00:36:17,520 --> 00:36:20,239
Speaker 5: take a monstrous offer for the Ravens to get rid

693
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Speaker 5: of him. GM Eric DaCosta has no interest in trading

694
00:36:23,680 --> 00:36:28,360
Speaker 5: Lamar Jackson, and I think for him, Lamar is motivated

695
00:36:28,400 --> 00:36:31,160
Speaker 5: in different ways than people realize. And the fact that

696
00:36:31,200 --> 00:36:33,359
Speaker 5: he has been a little bit injury prone the last

697
00:36:33,360 --> 00:36:35,440
Speaker 5: couple of seasons, and the fact that people are saying, oh,

698
00:36:35,440 --> 00:36:36,560
Speaker 5: he's lost his step.

699
00:36:36,280 --> 00:36:37,719
Speaker 4: And he can't do this and you can't do that.

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Speaker 5: He kind of in a lot of ways reminds me

701
00:36:40,040 --> 00:36:42,359
Speaker 5: of Michael Vick, because when I was growing up, Mike,

702
00:36:42,520 --> 00:36:44,560
Speaker 5: when somebody said he couldn't throw, he'd go throw for

703
00:36:44,600 --> 00:36:47,480
Speaker 5: three hundred and fifty yards right when someone said, ah,

704
00:36:47,520 --> 00:36:48,799
Speaker 5: he lost a step, he'd go.

705
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Speaker 4: Run for one point fifty.

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Speaker 5: And that's kind of what I see from Lamar Jackson

707
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Speaker 5: in the way that he is motivated. He is somewhat

708
00:36:56,640 --> 00:36:59,359
Speaker 5: motivated to prove people wrong but also to prove himself right.

709
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Speaker 5: So don't think they trade him. I think he goes

710
00:37:01,840 --> 00:37:04,000
Speaker 5: out and he plays well in this game against the Steelers,

711
00:37:04,280 --> 00:37:07,360
Speaker 5: and he kind of forces Mike Tomlin to either have

712
00:37:07,400 --> 00:37:09,680
Speaker 5: to take a TV job or for the Steelers to

713
00:37:09,719 --> 00:37:12,480
Speaker 5: realize that what they have in Mike Tomlin is greater.

714
00:37:13,080 --> 00:37:15,520
Speaker 4: And maybe they're not appreciating him as well.

715
00:37:15,520 --> 00:37:17,960
Speaker 5: But I'm definitely rocking with the Ravens in this game,

716
00:37:18,120 --> 00:37:19,640
Speaker 5: and I think Lamar Jazz is going to prove all

717
00:37:19,680 --> 00:37:20,399
Speaker 5: those daughters wrong.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, listen, these stories come out. I mean, the guy

719
00:37:23,760 --> 00:37:26,280
Speaker 1: in Baltimore that works for the Sun is a longtime

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00:37:26,320 --> 00:37:30,359
Speaker 1: beat reporter and I'm like, what am I to make

721
00:37:30,360 --> 00:37:33,239
Speaker 1: of that story? And so I think it's fascinating. I

722
00:37:33,239 --> 00:37:36,359
Speaker 1: think your depth of knowledge in the organization. I have

723
00:37:36,440 --> 00:37:40,279
Speaker 1: said this before about Lamar is that I would and

724
00:37:40,320 --> 00:37:44,080
Speaker 1: I felt this way about Elway and Denver. There are

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00:37:44,120 --> 00:37:47,080
Speaker 1: certain quarterbacks that play for a franchise, but they don't

726
00:37:47,080 --> 00:37:49,560
Speaker 1: necessarily feel like the city. They're just really good players,

727
00:37:49,560 --> 00:37:52,440
Speaker 1: they play forever whatever. I mean. I love Brady, but

728
00:37:52,600 --> 00:37:55,919
Speaker 1: Brady would go vacation over in Europe, he'd hang out

729
00:37:55,920 --> 00:37:58,840
Speaker 1: in New York. I didn't feel like he felt like Boston.

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Speaker 1: He was just great.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, he's Hollywood, you know.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, there is no quarterback in the league that feels.

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Speaker 1: I bet that's more popular within the city the area

734
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Speaker 1: codes of the city than Lamar Jackson. I think he's

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Speaker 1: the most popular quarterback if you did a poll every

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Speaker 1: team in the league. Maybe Mahomes is up there because

737
00:38:18,239 --> 00:38:20,200
Speaker 1: of his success. So when you were there, do you

738
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Speaker 1: believe that to be true?

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Speaker 4: No, it's one hundred percent true. And he is the city.

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Speaker 2: Like, let's be real.

741
00:38:26,719 --> 00:38:27,160
Speaker 4: You go to.

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Speaker 5: Baltimore and uh, you know, when I got drafted to Washington,

743
00:38:31,200 --> 00:38:34,040
Speaker 5: they call it chocolate City. Okay, well, if Washington, DC

744
00:38:34,160 --> 00:38:36,719
Speaker 5: is chocolate city, then god name Baltimore must be dark

745
00:38:36,800 --> 00:38:39,040
Speaker 5: chocolate city or something. So when you look at the

746
00:38:39,080 --> 00:38:42,799
Speaker 5: city and how they operate, how how rugged the city is,

747
00:38:42,920 --> 00:38:46,960
Speaker 5: how tough the city is, Lamar Jackson bodies all those things.

748
00:38:47,040 --> 00:38:48,920
Speaker 5: And when he comes in the number one thing the

749
00:38:49,000 --> 00:38:51,600
Speaker 5: Ravens did his rookie year when I was there, I

750
00:38:51,640 --> 00:38:53,600
Speaker 5: was there for with Lamar for three seasons, you know,

751
00:38:53,800 --> 00:38:56,239
Speaker 5: blessing honor to be able to mentor him and see

752
00:38:56,320 --> 00:38:59,239
Speaker 5: him go win MVPs and really take over that team

753
00:38:59,239 --> 00:39:01,759
Speaker 5: in the city from Super Bowl champions to Bowl MVP

754
00:39:01,920 --> 00:39:06,160
Speaker 5: Jo Flacco. They never tried to change Lamar. They never

755
00:39:06,200 --> 00:39:08,279
Speaker 5: tried to change the way he talked. They never tried

756
00:39:08,320 --> 00:39:09,879
Speaker 5: to change the way he were, his hair, they never

757
00:39:09,920 --> 00:39:12,920
Speaker 5: tried to change the way that he dressed. They allowed

758
00:39:13,000 --> 00:39:16,120
Speaker 5: Lamar Jackson to be Lamar Jackson. I, for one in

759
00:39:16,160 --> 00:39:19,560
Speaker 5: my career, didn't have that same experience. But what I

760
00:39:19,600 --> 00:39:22,319
Speaker 5: loved was that this is who we drafted, This is

761
00:39:22,320 --> 00:39:24,360
Speaker 5: who we want you to be. We want you to

762
00:39:24,360 --> 00:39:28,919
Speaker 5: be Lamar Jackson that embodies the city. The city cling

763
00:39:29,080 --> 00:39:32,400
Speaker 5: to that and he is, like his jersey sales are crazy,

764
00:39:32,680 --> 00:39:36,279
Speaker 5: and it's because he has never changed who he is

765
00:39:36,320 --> 00:39:38,680
Speaker 5: to try to fit into something. The Raven said, you

766
00:39:38,719 --> 00:39:40,759
Speaker 5: know what, We're not going to put a square peg

767
00:39:40,800 --> 00:39:41,560
Speaker 5: in a round hole.

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00:39:41,719 --> 00:39:42,200
Speaker 4: We're going to.

769
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Speaker 5: Allow you to go be fully who you are. And

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Speaker 5: that's why he's been so successful. So yes, is he playful?

771
00:39:50,600 --> 00:39:53,440
Speaker 5: Does he lead in a different way? Huntred percent, but

772
00:39:53,520 --> 00:39:57,000
Speaker 5: that locker room would die for him because they know

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00:39:57,080 --> 00:39:58,000
Speaker 5: that he's got their back.

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Speaker 1: Robert, great stuff. On a Friday, It's going to be glorious.

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00:40:02,600 --> 00:40:09,600
Speaker 1: College football yesterday, excellent weekends Seahawks and the Niners, Bucks, Panthers,

776
00:40:09,719 --> 00:40:12,279
Speaker 1: Raven Steelers mean a lot. Great seniors, allays, my man.

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Speaker 1: Happy holidays.

778
00:40:13,480 --> 00:40:15,160
Speaker 4: Appreciate you brother, thanks for having me on you the

779
00:40:15,239 --> 00:40:15,520
Speaker 4: best