1 00:00:01,480 --> 00:00:03,160 Speaker 1: The Jubile Show on demand. 2 00:00:03,720 --> 00:00:07,520 Speaker 2: Do you think it's unprofessional to wear a bikini on 3 00:00:07,600 --> 00:00:10,319 Speaker 2: a work trip? It's the double Show and asked the 4 00:00:10,400 --> 00:00:12,559 Speaker 2: question because the story is going viral off a Reddit 5 00:00:12,600 --> 00:00:14,560 Speaker 2: about a woman who went on a work trip recently 6 00:00:14,880 --> 00:00:16,960 Speaker 2: and she posted on Reddit talking about the fact that 7 00:00:17,000 --> 00:00:19,880 Speaker 2: one of her co workers hung out by the pool 8 00:00:20,160 --> 00:00:23,119 Speaker 2: in a bikini and all of the other women that 9 00:00:23,160 --> 00:00:25,920 Speaker 2: were on the work trip with her got angry at 10 00:00:25,920 --> 00:00:28,520 Speaker 2: her and said that she was trying to get attention 11 00:00:28,640 --> 00:00:31,319 Speaker 2: from the other male coworkers there and that it was 12 00:00:31,320 --> 00:00:33,640 Speaker 2: just very unprofessional to be wearing the bikini by the 13 00:00:33,640 --> 00:00:34,600 Speaker 2: pool on a work trip. 14 00:00:34,800 --> 00:00:37,880 Speaker 3: What did they want her to wear instead? Business cash, 15 00:00:38,000 --> 00:00:42,000 Speaker 3: I don't know. I mean, what suits near a pool? 16 00:00:42,159 --> 00:00:45,120 Speaker 1: You know? I don't I mean, I guess what other options? 17 00:00:45,159 --> 00:00:47,840 Speaker 1: You could wear? A one piece? Right, Nina? I guess 18 00:00:47,840 --> 00:00:50,920 Speaker 1: you could wear a one piece. You know. 19 00:00:51,040 --> 00:00:53,360 Speaker 3: It's funny that this actually story is coming out because 20 00:00:53,360 --> 00:00:54,920 Speaker 3: recently I was talking to a friend of mine. She's 21 00:00:54,920 --> 00:00:57,280 Speaker 3: a news anchor, and she went on a trip to 22 00:00:57,320 --> 00:00:59,680 Speaker 3: Costa Rica and she posted a picture of herself in 23 00:00:59,680 --> 00:01:02,480 Speaker 3: a baby suit under a waterfall, which happened to be 24 00:01:02,480 --> 00:01:04,639 Speaker 3: a bikini because that's, you know, just what she wears, 25 00:01:05,040 --> 00:01:07,840 Speaker 3: and her job made her take it down because they 26 00:01:07,840 --> 00:01:10,600 Speaker 3: thought that she was sexualizing herself by posting in a waterfall. 27 00:01:10,920 --> 00:01:14,440 Speaker 1: She's in Costa Rica, right, did she take it down? 28 00:01:14,680 --> 00:01:17,000 Speaker 1: I mean she had to. Yeah, So it's if you 29 00:01:17,040 --> 00:01:20,200 Speaker 1: want to sexualize yourself, go ahead, it's yourself. Well, I 30 00:01:20,240 --> 00:01:21,640 Speaker 1: mean it was more about them. 31 00:01:21,920 --> 00:01:25,160 Speaker 3: It was more about the waterfall than her in her mind, right, 32 00:01:25,200 --> 00:01:27,480 Speaker 3: And for this person that's on a work trip, it's 33 00:01:27,520 --> 00:01:30,720 Speaker 3: more about I don't know what's the alternative. I think 34 00:01:30,760 --> 00:01:32,680 Speaker 3: if you don't have thong on, and I think if 35 00:01:32,720 --> 00:01:35,560 Speaker 3: you're not letting everything hang out, you're doing all. Yeah. 36 00:01:35,560 --> 00:01:38,120 Speaker 2: I mean I guess it depends on the bikini. But 37 00:01:38,120 --> 00:01:41,880 Speaker 2: if it's just a regular two piece bikini, that's just 38 00:01:41,920 --> 00:01:44,080 Speaker 2: what women wear by the pool a lot of times, right, 39 00:01:44,120 --> 00:01:46,960 Speaker 2: that's a bathing suit. Yeah, Like, I don't see an 40 00:01:47,000 --> 00:01:50,720 Speaker 2: issue with it. But apparently a lot of her female 41 00:01:50,720 --> 00:01:53,360 Speaker 2: coworkers were very upset that she did that. And your 42 00:01:53,400 --> 00:01:56,720 Speaker 2: friend who got her who their company asked her to 43 00:01:56,720 --> 00:01:59,360 Speaker 2: take down a picture of herself in a waterfall in 44 00:01:59,400 --> 00:02:03,040 Speaker 2: Costa Rica in a bikini because she's sexualizing herself was 45 00:02:03,120 --> 00:02:05,080 Speaker 2: she she just took a picture under a waterfall? 46 00:02:05,160 --> 00:02:05,320 Speaker 4: Right? 47 00:02:05,320 --> 00:02:07,240 Speaker 3: I just took a picture under a waterfall? The thing 48 00:02:07,280 --> 00:02:09,839 Speaker 3: that makes me really sad here. I guess you could 49 00:02:09,840 --> 00:02:12,200 Speaker 3: see both sides of it, right. So, as a woman, 50 00:02:12,360 --> 00:02:15,160 Speaker 3: you're having other women tell you that they don't like 51 00:02:15,200 --> 00:02:17,440 Speaker 3: you wearing a two piece because they think that you're 52 00:02:17,480 --> 00:02:21,320 Speaker 3: trying to get attention, and a woman who's the boss 53 00:02:21,320 --> 00:02:24,160 Speaker 3: telling you to take it down because you're sexualizing yourself. 54 00:02:24,200 --> 00:02:27,240 Speaker 3: It's like, can we just be or are we going 55 00:02:27,280 --> 00:02:29,639 Speaker 3: to hate on everybody every single time that they try 56 00:02:29,680 --> 00:02:29,880 Speaker 3: to be? 57 00:02:30,360 --> 00:02:30,560 Speaker 1: Right? 58 00:02:30,720 --> 00:02:30,920 Speaker 4: You know? 59 00:02:31,320 --> 00:02:33,519 Speaker 2: I mean there's a difference between sexualizing yourself and taking 60 00:02:33,560 --> 00:02:35,079 Speaker 2: a picture under a waterfall on a bikini. 61 00:02:35,120 --> 00:02:37,680 Speaker 1: I mean, what was she doing? You know, like, right, 62 00:02:37,760 --> 00:02:38,800 Speaker 1: is she doing something? 63 00:02:38,880 --> 00:02:39,160 Speaker 3: Yeah? 64 00:02:39,200 --> 00:02:43,280 Speaker 1: Exactly? Yeah, No, I think that there's a clear difference, 65 00:02:43,480 --> 00:02:43,680 Speaker 1: you know. 66 00:02:44,440 --> 00:02:47,240 Speaker 3: But we're being really sensitive to the whole thing because 67 00:02:47,440 --> 00:02:49,720 Speaker 3: you know, I guess look at the Kardashians, look at 68 00:02:49,720 --> 00:02:52,480 Speaker 3: everybody posting pictures of themselves in bikinis anytime you get 69 00:02:52,480 --> 00:02:55,760 Speaker 3: an opportunity to do it, And I think people are 70 00:02:55,760 --> 00:02:56,799 Speaker 3: getting sensitive to that. 71 00:02:57,040 --> 00:02:58,600 Speaker 1: So is it because they feel bad. 72 00:02:58,440 --> 00:03:01,720 Speaker 3: About themselves that they don't want to see anybody else 73 00:03:01,760 --> 00:03:03,079 Speaker 3: look good in a bathing suit. 74 00:03:03,200 --> 00:03:05,240 Speaker 2: I mean, that's one thing I would think usually when 75 00:03:05,280 --> 00:03:09,519 Speaker 2: people have that reaction, it's because it hits somewhere with them, right. 76 00:03:09,560 --> 00:03:11,959 Speaker 2: They don't like her in a bikini because they maybe 77 00:03:12,040 --> 00:03:13,840 Speaker 2: not don't look as good as her in a bikini, 78 00:03:14,600 --> 00:03:17,120 Speaker 2: and so it makes them upset, and they don't want 79 00:03:17,200 --> 00:03:18,760 Speaker 2: her to be in a bikini because they don't want 80 00:03:18,800 --> 00:03:19,760 Speaker 2: to be upstaged. 81 00:03:19,840 --> 00:03:22,880 Speaker 5: I guess right, Yeah, maybe let's produce a brad. I 82 00:03:22,919 --> 00:03:26,720 Speaker 5: have a question if someone is wearing a bikini on 83 00:03:26,760 --> 00:03:30,359 Speaker 5: a trip work trip and everyone else has a problem 84 00:03:30,400 --> 00:03:33,560 Speaker 5: with it, who's really doing the sexualizing Not the person 85 00:03:33,600 --> 00:03:35,520 Speaker 5: who's wearing the bikini, but everyone else who has a 86 00:03:35,520 --> 00:03:38,240 Speaker 5: sexual opinion about their body, which is none of their business. 87 00:03:38,520 --> 00:03:39,600 Speaker 1: Ooh is that right? 88 00:03:39,920 --> 00:03:40,080 Speaker 3: Yeah? 89 00:03:40,160 --> 00:03:41,839 Speaker 1: Essentially trying to learn how to be a better guess 90 00:03:41,920 --> 00:03:44,360 Speaker 1: essentially it's open. 91 00:03:44,520 --> 00:03:46,920 Speaker 3: I am curious to see if other people have any 92 00:03:46,920 --> 00:03:48,800 Speaker 3: thoughts on wearing bikinis on work trips. 93 00:03:48,880 --> 00:03:51,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, I just I have always had a problem with 94 00:03:51,200 --> 00:03:56,119 Speaker 2: the whole profession well, I mean it's a professional, professional work, 95 00:03:56,120 --> 00:03:59,240 Speaker 2: but professional attire, especially if you're on a work trip 96 00:03:59,320 --> 00:04:02,840 Speaker 2: on vacation like that. So this Reddit post that we're 97 00:04:02,880 --> 00:04:05,640 Speaker 2: talking about where this woman said that they had they 98 00:04:05,680 --> 00:04:07,280 Speaker 2: went on a work trip and they were like awarded 99 00:04:07,320 --> 00:04:09,040 Speaker 2: a work trip because they had done really good at 100 00:04:09,040 --> 00:04:12,360 Speaker 2: this company, so it was more like a fun work trip, 101 00:04:12,440 --> 00:04:15,080 Speaker 2: a congratulations you guys did a good job work trip, 102 00:04:15,760 --> 00:04:18,160 Speaker 2: and they were out by the pool and her co 103 00:04:18,320 --> 00:04:22,560 Speaker 2: workers are upset because she wore a bikini and that's 104 00:04:22,600 --> 00:04:24,920 Speaker 2: like a fun work trip. Why can't you wear a 105 00:04:24,920 --> 00:04:27,039 Speaker 2: bikini for that? That doesn't make any sense to me. 106 00:04:27,200 --> 00:04:29,440 Speaker 2: I know, people get so upset and they get so 107 00:04:29,520 --> 00:04:32,560 Speaker 2: into the being professional thing, like what are you supposed 108 00:04:32,600 --> 00:04:34,000 Speaker 2: to do what's considered professional? 109 00:04:34,360 --> 00:04:37,160 Speaker 3: Well, it actually makes us feel kind of self conscious, 110 00:04:37,200 --> 00:04:39,719 Speaker 3: like okay, being a woman again in a networking space 111 00:04:39,760 --> 00:04:42,760 Speaker 3: that's predominantly men, I would always be conscious of whatever 112 00:04:42,839 --> 00:04:44,320 Speaker 3: kind of top I was wearing to make sure that 113 00:04:44,360 --> 00:04:46,440 Speaker 3: I didn't have cleavage showing or anything like that, so 114 00:04:46,480 --> 00:04:49,560 Speaker 3: I couldn't get hit that way. But even still if 115 00:04:49,600 --> 00:04:52,280 Speaker 3: I wanted to, shouldn't I be able to see? 116 00:04:52,320 --> 00:04:54,000 Speaker 2: That? Seems stressful to me, I mean, and I know 117 00:04:54,040 --> 00:04:56,560 Speaker 2: it probably is stressful. And Nina, is it stressful because 118 00:04:56,960 --> 00:04:59,520 Speaker 2: you said you think about what top to wear? So 119 00:04:59,600 --> 00:05:02,120 Speaker 2: going to a work event, right, Yeah, before you go, 120 00:05:02,200 --> 00:05:04,320 Speaker 2: you think about what kind of top to wear. 121 00:05:04,520 --> 00:05:06,799 Speaker 1: Yeah, so every time you don't wear. 122 00:05:06,640 --> 00:05:10,320 Speaker 2: Something too low cut, so you don't what look a 123 00:05:10,360 --> 00:05:12,840 Speaker 2: certain way or people don't judge you. 124 00:05:12,920 --> 00:05:15,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, because you don't want anybody running around saying, well, 125 00:05:15,120 --> 00:05:17,320 Speaker 3: she got her job because she wore that low cut shirt. 126 00:05:17,440 --> 00:05:20,279 Speaker 3: She got her job because she put herself in that position. 127 00:05:20,440 --> 00:05:21,760 Speaker 3: It's sad that that's still happening. 128 00:05:22,000 --> 00:05:22,560 Speaker 1: It is sad. 129 00:05:22,680 --> 00:05:24,599 Speaker 2: I mean that's why I always wear v neck pants 130 00:05:24,640 --> 00:05:27,960 Speaker 2: to work. Yeah, you do, because I don't mind people 131 00:05:28,120 --> 00:05:28,600 Speaker 2: know how I. 132 00:05:28,560 --> 00:05:33,719 Speaker 1: Got my job. Also, whose fault is that the person 133 00:05:33,760 --> 00:05:37,560 Speaker 1: who gave the job? Right? I just think we need 134 00:05:37,600 --> 00:05:40,000 Speaker 1: to be more kind to each other. That's all I'm saying. 135 00:05:40,000 --> 00:05:42,320 Speaker 3: No, the difference between wearing a thong and flashing yourself 136 00:05:42,360 --> 00:05:45,520 Speaker 3: and twerking on a work trip and just being present? 137 00:05:45,560 --> 00:05:47,400 Speaker 1: Can we just be kind? Call us up? 138 00:05:47,440 --> 00:05:49,159 Speaker 2: Eighty eight three four three one six one text in 139 00:05:49,200 --> 00:05:53,040 Speaker 2: four one of six to one. Hey Kaylin, Hey, what 140 00:05:53,080 --> 00:05:54,960 Speaker 2: do you think about this? Do you think it's unprofessional 141 00:05:54,960 --> 00:05:56,159 Speaker 2: to wear a bikini on a work trip? 142 00:05:57,800 --> 00:06:00,839 Speaker 4: I mean if she was going into the office, absolutely, 143 00:06:00,920 --> 00:06:04,159 Speaker 4: But if they're by a pool women are allowed to 144 00:06:04,160 --> 00:06:07,120 Speaker 4: wear bikinis. I don't know what the issue with it 145 00:06:07,160 --> 00:06:09,680 Speaker 4: is if they think that it's just because she's not 146 00:06:09,720 --> 00:06:11,960 Speaker 4: wearing a one piece or a T shirt. I mean, 147 00:06:12,000 --> 00:06:15,000 Speaker 4: it's twenty twenty three. Women should be old were a 148 00:06:15,040 --> 00:06:17,600 Speaker 4: swimsuit in a pool. I don't know what more there 149 00:06:17,680 --> 00:06:18,120 Speaker 4: is to it. 150 00:06:18,400 --> 00:06:19,359 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, Caitlin. 151 00:06:19,440 --> 00:06:21,000 Speaker 3: Have you ever had in a situation where you had 152 00:06:21,000 --> 00:06:23,000 Speaker 3: to think twice about what you were wearing because of 153 00:06:23,040 --> 00:06:23,760 Speaker 3: something like that? 154 00:06:25,240 --> 00:06:28,839 Speaker 4: I mean absolutely. I actually was in a similar situation. 155 00:06:29,000 --> 00:06:31,440 Speaker 4: We went on a works trip and there was a 156 00:06:31,480 --> 00:06:34,960 Speaker 4: pool party and people ended up wearing some suits. So 157 00:06:35,560 --> 00:06:37,240 Speaker 4: I have to think about it all the time. But 158 00:06:37,440 --> 00:06:39,760 Speaker 4: I don't think women should have to second guests their 159 00:06:39,839 --> 00:06:44,359 Speaker 4: bodies and things that are teams normal for the most parts. 160 00:06:44,680 --> 00:06:48,000 Speaker 2: No, absolutely, I mean, and that's it's like I said 161 00:06:48,040 --> 00:06:48,800 Speaker 2: it just a second ago. 162 00:06:48,839 --> 00:06:50,760 Speaker 1: But that's stressful. I have to think about that stuff 163 00:06:50,800 --> 00:06:51,480 Speaker 1: all the time. 164 00:06:52,160 --> 00:06:52,400 Speaker 2: Yeah. 165 00:06:52,760 --> 00:06:55,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, we can't help it. We were just born with 166 00:06:55,160 --> 00:06:56,480 Speaker 1: these things, you know. 167 00:06:58,440 --> 00:07:00,280 Speaker 2: And I used to post pictures of myselfh one social 168 00:07:00,360 --> 00:07:03,159 Speaker 2: media with glitter on my butt for the holidays, little 169 00:07:03,200 --> 00:07:03,880 Speaker 2: booty pictures. 170 00:07:03,960 --> 00:07:06,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I didn't know why though. 171 00:07:06,720 --> 00:07:08,880 Speaker 2: Well, just you know, it was just a way to 172 00:07:08,920 --> 00:07:11,200 Speaker 2: say happy whatever it is, happy Thanksgiving. 173 00:07:11,600 --> 00:07:14,200 Speaker 1: You know, things like That's history of Instagram is wild. 174 00:07:14,320 --> 00:07:16,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, oh yeah, I remind me to tell you the 175 00:07:16,520 --> 00:07:18,200 Speaker 3: story about when I saw that for the first time. 176 00:07:18,200 --> 00:07:19,880 Speaker 3: When I was across the country and hadn't talked to 177 00:07:19,880 --> 00:07:21,640 Speaker 3: you in a while. I was scrolling and all of 178 00:07:21,640 --> 00:07:23,880 Speaker 3: a sudden, I stopped on Jewble's shiny butt, and I 179 00:07:23,920 --> 00:07:26,200 Speaker 3: was like, what is happening. 180 00:07:27,520 --> 00:07:31,920 Speaker 2: If you ever want to witness or a hilarious conversation 181 00:07:31,960 --> 00:07:34,240 Speaker 2: would be a part of hilarious conversation. Get involved in 182 00:07:34,280 --> 00:07:41,520 Speaker 2: a lawsuit, you have to explain your social media posts 183 00:07:41,640 --> 00:07:42,360 Speaker 2: in front of it. 184 00:07:43,200 --> 00:07:47,880 Speaker 1: Wait, what is this real? Where were you with this story? 185 00:07:50,120 --> 00:07:52,720 Speaker 2: You have another lawyer going, is this a picture of 186 00:07:52,760 --> 00:07:54,680 Speaker 2: you with glitter all over your butt? 187 00:07:55,640 --> 00:07:56,160 Speaker 1: Stop it? 188 00:07:56,360 --> 00:08:00,720 Speaker 2: Yes it is, sir. What holiday was this celebrated? That 189 00:08:00,760 --> 00:08:05,720 Speaker 2: would be Thanksgiving? Glitterbooty? Is this another picture with what 190 00:08:05,760 --> 00:08:07,880 Speaker 2: looks like a jack lantern glitter painted on your button? 191 00:08:08,520 --> 00:08:09,280 Speaker 2: Yes it is, sir. 192 00:08:11,360 --> 00:08:16,840 Speaker 1: I saw that one too. Do you think that that's offensive? No, 193 00:08:16,880 --> 00:08:18,760 Speaker 1: I don't. I think it was just getting into the 194 00:08:18,800 --> 00:08:22,440 Speaker 1: festive spirit of things. I also lost that lawsuit. 195 00:08:25,040 --> 00:08:27,880 Speaker 2: It's time for what's trending with Nina. Also your chance 196 00:08:27,920 --> 00:08:30,160 Speaker 2: at one thousand dollars with the Jubil Cash code coming 197 00:08:30,240 --> 00:08:33,360 Speaker 2: up in just a second. But hey, Nina, oh hey, 198 00:08:33,559 --> 00:08:34,240 Speaker 2: what's trending? 199 00:08:34,360 --> 00:08:35,320 Speaker 1: Is this how we're doing it this time? 200 00:08:35,400 --> 00:08:36,720 Speaker 2: That's how I'm doing it this time because I was 201 00:08:36,800 --> 00:08:38,319 Speaker 2: unprepared to do anything else that I. 202 00:08:38,280 --> 00:08:41,800 Speaker 1: Wanted to do. Filan, what's trending right now? 203 00:08:41,960 --> 00:08:46,640 Speaker 3: Would you say that you're more coastal cowgirl or cowboy core? 204 00:08:47,800 --> 00:08:52,400 Speaker 1: I don't know what either of those that means? Yeah, 205 00:08:52,440 --> 00:08:54,840 Speaker 1: what is that mean? It's the new summer trend. 206 00:08:55,080 --> 00:08:57,000 Speaker 3: So when you're taking a look at what fashion is 207 00:08:57,000 --> 00:08:58,920 Speaker 3: going to look like this summer, we're leaning towards a 208 00:08:59,000 --> 00:09:03,200 Speaker 3: coastal cowgirl look, which is combining like flirty florals with 209 00:09:03,280 --> 00:09:06,160 Speaker 3: the cowboy boots and like big chunky belts and all 210 00:09:06,200 --> 00:09:09,360 Speaker 3: that kind of stuff. Thanks to Yellowstone, everybody wants to 211 00:09:09,440 --> 00:09:13,080 Speaker 3: dress leg bath. So there's that. But if you really 212 00:09:13,120 --> 00:09:16,520 Speaker 3: want to lean into your inner cowgirl, cowboy, cowboy core 213 00:09:16,640 --> 00:09:19,240 Speaker 3: is the other option where you're taking out the florals 214 00:09:19,280 --> 00:09:22,080 Speaker 3: and you're wearing warm the chunky belts and the boots 215 00:09:22,080 --> 00:09:24,880 Speaker 3: and stuff. It's just I want to know who named 216 00:09:24,920 --> 00:09:27,960 Speaker 3: these things? Like, whose job is it to name the 217 00:09:27,960 --> 00:09:31,120 Speaker 3: look of the summer. That'd be a fun job, right, 218 00:09:31,640 --> 00:09:33,720 Speaker 3: I think you'd be really good out at Jewbil. I 219 00:09:33,760 --> 00:09:37,199 Speaker 3: think I would too, something to be weird trends. Would 220 00:09:37,200 --> 00:09:39,360 Speaker 3: you describe your look to be mine? 221 00:09:39,520 --> 00:09:39,720 Speaker 1: Yeah? 222 00:09:44,000 --> 00:09:46,679 Speaker 2: Uh, that's it, like an awkward face? Am like a 223 00:09:47,800 --> 00:09:49,680 Speaker 2: like I don't know. 224 00:09:49,920 --> 00:09:51,040 Speaker 1: Us, just like zen swag. 225 00:09:52,160 --> 00:09:57,240 Speaker 3: I like that you should name them, I guess so. 226 00:09:57,240 --> 00:10:01,320 Speaker 3: So it's cowboy core yeap or coastal cow Girl coastal cowgirl. 227 00:10:01,400 --> 00:10:04,479 Speaker 2: I think I would prefer the coastal cowgirl over that. Yeah, 228 00:10:04,559 --> 00:10:05,200 Speaker 2: just sounds nice. 229 00:10:05,240 --> 00:10:07,680 Speaker 3: I mean it's actually really cute coming off a coachel. 230 00:10:07,760 --> 00:10:10,040 Speaker 3: A lot of people were rocking the coastal cowgirl looks. 231 00:10:10,040 --> 00:10:12,000 Speaker 3: So if you're confused, just go look at some photos 232 00:10:12,040 --> 00:10:12,839 Speaker 3: recapping the weekend. 233 00:10:12,880 --> 00:10:16,439 Speaker 2: All right, I'll go get myself a chunky belt. We're 234 00:10:16,520 --> 00:10:21,559 Speaker 2: not got a chunky belt belts? Oh thanks. 235 00:10:21,600 --> 00:10:23,280 Speaker 1: The Jubile Show on demand