1 00:00:00,840 --> 00:00:05,440 Speaker 1: It's time to catch a cheater. Only on the Jubile Show. 2 00:00:05,559 --> 00:00:07,480 Speaker 2: Laura is on the phone today for to catch a Cheater, 3 00:00:07,560 --> 00:00:10,120 Speaker 2: and she thinks that her husband of five years named 4 00:00:10,200 --> 00:00:12,319 Speaker 2: Chris might be messing around, so we'll see if we 5 00:00:12,360 --> 00:00:14,560 Speaker 2: can catch him if he is. In a second, Laura, sorry, 6 00:00:14,560 --> 00:00:15,840 Speaker 2: you have to come on the show this way. What's 7 00:00:15,880 --> 00:00:17,320 Speaker 2: going on? Why do you think Chris is cheating? 8 00:00:17,840 --> 00:00:20,840 Speaker 3: Well, okay, so I mean, yeah, Chris and I have 9 00:00:20,920 --> 00:00:23,680 Speaker 3: been married for five years, but we've actually been together 10 00:00:23,800 --> 00:00:26,760 Speaker 3: for nine years total, so you know, it's a very 11 00:00:26,800 --> 00:00:31,040 Speaker 3: long term relationship. There have been some rocky moments, but 12 00:00:31,320 --> 00:00:33,640 Speaker 3: we've we've always been able to work through them in 13 00:00:33,680 --> 00:00:36,320 Speaker 3: the past. So I'm in a little bit of a 14 00:00:36,360 --> 00:00:39,879 Speaker 3: conundrum right now. I'm super in love with Chris. This 15 00:00:40,040 --> 00:00:42,760 Speaker 3: is what I would call a pretty happy marriage. But 16 00:00:43,440 --> 00:00:45,680 Speaker 3: last month I was on the couch, I was watching 17 00:00:45,720 --> 00:00:48,279 Speaker 3: TV and Chris was sitting next to me. He had 18 00:00:48,280 --> 00:00:51,080 Speaker 3: a phone by him, which is not unusual, and his 19 00:00:51,120 --> 00:00:53,440 Speaker 3: phone lit up and I just kind of glanced at 20 00:00:53,440 --> 00:00:55,440 Speaker 3: it because it distracted me. It wasn't like, you know, 21 00:00:55,440 --> 00:00:57,319 Speaker 3: it wasn't anything weird. I just like caught it out 22 00:00:57,320 --> 00:00:59,360 Speaker 3: of the corner of my eye, but it looked like 23 00:00:59,440 --> 00:01:03,520 Speaker 3: a Tinder notification. Oh yeah, I mean, I you know, 24 00:01:03,680 --> 00:01:06,880 Speaker 3: I've never used Tinder myself. Again, we've been together for 25 00:01:07,000 --> 00:01:10,200 Speaker 3: nine years, but like I have single girlfriends, I know 26 00:01:10,240 --> 00:01:14,360 Speaker 3: what Tinder looks like. So later that same night, we 27 00:01:14,360 --> 00:01:16,959 Speaker 3: were lying down in bed, we were like, you know, 28 00:01:17,040 --> 00:01:18,840 Speaker 3: ready for bed, just kind of like on our phone, 29 00:01:19,360 --> 00:01:22,120 Speaker 3: and I saw it again, like I saw this notification 30 00:01:22,240 --> 00:01:25,039 Speaker 3: flash and he very quickly picked up his phone and 31 00:01:25,040 --> 00:01:27,560 Speaker 3: turned it off. And I was like, Okay, that's a 32 00:01:27,600 --> 00:01:31,160 Speaker 3: little bit weird, right, And again I didn't want to 33 00:01:31,440 --> 00:01:34,520 Speaker 3: jump to conclusions because I mean, it could be anything, 34 00:01:34,560 --> 00:01:37,320 Speaker 3: could be work, it could be whatever. But it was 35 00:01:37,360 --> 00:01:40,840 Speaker 3: still bothering me the next day, so I got a 36 00:01:41,120 --> 00:01:45,480 Speaker 3: brainwave and I don't know if it was a good idea, 37 00:01:45,600 --> 00:01:48,040 Speaker 3: but it was definitely an idea that I ran with 38 00:01:48,360 --> 00:01:53,560 Speaker 3: and I went ahead and I downloaded Tinder onto my 39 00:01:53,640 --> 00:01:57,920 Speaker 3: own phone and I made fake profile, bake picture. I 40 00:01:57,960 --> 00:02:02,640 Speaker 3: said my name was Bailey, and I found Chris. He 41 00:02:02,920 --> 00:02:11,480 Speaker 3: was on tender. Yeah. I thought I matched with him, 42 00:02:11,560 --> 00:02:15,359 Speaker 3: as you know, Bailey. And at first I didn't do 43 00:02:15,400 --> 00:02:17,720 Speaker 3: anything about it. It was just sort of like you know, 44 00:02:17,800 --> 00:02:19,920 Speaker 3: a gotcha moment, Like I was like, okay, he was 45 00:02:20,000 --> 00:02:23,040 Speaker 3: on here and he matched with me. So finally though, 46 00:02:23,080 --> 00:02:27,120 Speaker 3: I mustered up the strength to message him, and he 47 00:02:27,360 --> 00:02:32,079 Speaker 3: was honestly just really nice. He wasn't weird, he wasn't aggressive, 48 00:02:32,280 --> 00:02:35,000 Speaker 3: he was just super kind. He didn't ask me for nudes, 49 00:02:35,000 --> 00:02:37,360 Speaker 3: he didn't like be like, you know, let's hook up 50 00:02:37,400 --> 00:02:39,520 Speaker 3: or anything. He did. It seemed like he just wanted 51 00:02:39,520 --> 00:02:44,280 Speaker 3: to talk. So as Bailey, we start talking together, and 52 00:02:44,840 --> 00:02:47,320 Speaker 3: I knew that I should be like super pissed about this, 53 00:02:47,840 --> 00:02:52,239 Speaker 3: as as Laura, as now my two personalities, like as myself, 54 00:02:52,280 --> 00:02:53,960 Speaker 3: I should have been pissed, and I kind of was, 55 00:02:54,520 --> 00:02:57,080 Speaker 3: but I really just wanted to see where this was going. 56 00:02:57,200 --> 00:03:00,680 Speaker 3: So you know, I go into Bailey mode and started 57 00:03:00,680 --> 00:03:02,920 Speaker 3: talking back to him. And the truth is I kind 58 00:03:02,919 --> 00:03:05,640 Speaker 3: of got addicted to it, like that little adrenaline rush, 59 00:03:05,680 --> 00:03:09,600 Speaker 3: you know. And after a while of chatting over like 60 00:03:09,639 --> 00:03:12,200 Speaker 3: the period of a couple of weeks, I knew when 61 00:03:12,240 --> 00:03:16,000 Speaker 3: he'd leave the room to message her as me Bailey, 62 00:03:16,160 --> 00:03:19,320 Speaker 3: you know, and I you know, kind of wait for 63 00:03:19,320 --> 00:03:21,680 Speaker 3: the look on his face after he read whatever eye 64 00:03:21,680 --> 00:03:25,079 Speaker 3: Slash Daily had sent him, and it was, you know, 65 00:03:25,120 --> 00:03:26,800 Speaker 3: it was a little bit cute. It kind of felt 66 00:03:26,800 --> 00:03:30,040 Speaker 3: like that new relationship, like you know when you're excited 67 00:03:30,040 --> 00:03:33,400 Speaker 3: to talk to somebody, Like that's that's how he appeared 68 00:03:33,400 --> 00:03:35,080 Speaker 3: a little bit. That's kind of how I felt. But 69 00:03:35,560 --> 00:03:37,000 Speaker 3: you know, at the end of the day, it's still 70 00:03:37,120 --> 00:03:39,720 Speaker 3: it's cheating. He doesn't know that it's. 71 00:03:39,560 --> 00:03:42,400 Speaker 1: Me someone else though, I mean. 72 00:03:42,240 --> 00:03:46,120 Speaker 3: It doesn't exactly exactly, and so that's my dilemma. Like 73 00:03:46,640 --> 00:03:48,480 Speaker 3: I realized that I let it go too far, but 74 00:03:48,560 --> 00:03:50,240 Speaker 3: like it was just really nice to kind of see 75 00:03:50,280 --> 00:03:52,560 Speaker 3: my husband in a new light that wasn't and it wasn't, 76 00:03:52,640 --> 00:03:54,920 Speaker 3: like I said, it wasn't super gross or predatory. It 77 00:03:54,920 --> 00:03:56,920 Speaker 3: seems like he just really does like talking to Bailey, 78 00:03:56,960 --> 00:03:58,680 Speaker 3: but I don't know what he's doing with other people 79 00:03:58,680 --> 00:04:00,640 Speaker 3: on Twitter, and that really eat that me. 80 00:04:01,200 --> 00:04:04,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, that sounds very, very accepting of it. 81 00:04:05,120 --> 00:04:08,600 Speaker 4: I think there's really one big takeaway here, honestly, is 82 00:04:08,640 --> 00:04:11,920 Speaker 4: that I think roleplay maybe something that is exciting for you. 83 00:04:12,480 --> 00:04:15,200 Speaker 4: I mean, I'm serious, it sounds like that's something that 84 00:04:15,240 --> 00:04:17,000 Speaker 4: may work for you guys, once you get to the 85 00:04:17,040 --> 00:04:18,600 Speaker 4: bottom of what's actually happening. 86 00:04:19,000 --> 00:04:21,200 Speaker 3: Well, I hope we get to the bottom of it. 87 00:04:21,240 --> 00:04:23,480 Speaker 3: I mean, I'm it kind of depends on what else 88 00:04:23,640 --> 00:04:24,400 Speaker 3: is going on on there. 89 00:04:24,440 --> 00:04:25,000 Speaker 4: You know what I mean. 90 00:04:25,200 --> 00:04:26,920 Speaker 2: You already told us what grocery store you guys are 91 00:04:26,960 --> 00:04:29,280 Speaker 2: rewards card members at. So we'll call him and pretend 92 00:04:29,279 --> 00:04:30,800 Speaker 2: to be from the grocery store and say that he's 93 00:04:30,839 --> 00:04:33,640 Speaker 2: this month's big winner of flowers from our Florida department 94 00:04:33,680 --> 00:04:34,720 Speaker 2: to be set to wherever he wants. 95 00:04:34,760 --> 00:04:36,000 Speaker 1: We'll see if he sends us to you or to 96 00:04:36,040 --> 00:04:36,479 Speaker 1: somebody else. 97 00:04:36,480 --> 00:04:39,520 Speaker 2: Okay, okay, all right, place, don't come back get your 98 00:04:39,520 --> 00:04:42,480 Speaker 2: to Catch a Cheater next if you're just joining us 99 00:04:42,480 --> 00:04:44,919 Speaker 2: for today's to Catch a Cheater. Laura is on the 100 00:04:44,920 --> 00:04:47,360 Speaker 2: phone and she thinks that her husband of five years, Chris, 101 00:04:47,400 --> 00:04:49,600 Speaker 2: might be messing around. So in a few minutes, we're 102 00:04:49,600 --> 00:04:51,120 Speaker 2: gonna call him and see if we can catch him 103 00:04:51,120 --> 00:04:53,200 Speaker 2: by pretending to be from the grocery store that they 104 00:04:53,240 --> 00:04:55,520 Speaker 2: are reward card members at and say that every single month, 105 00:04:55,520 --> 00:04:57,760 Speaker 2: we choose one Rewards Card member who gets free flowers 106 00:04:58,040 --> 00:05:00,960 Speaker 2: delivered from our Florida department. We'll see if he's to 107 00:05:01,080 --> 00:05:04,120 Speaker 2: his wife, Laura or to somebody else before we do that, Laura, 108 00:05:04,120 --> 00:05:05,799 Speaker 2: why don't you catch everybody up on your situation. 109 00:05:06,760 --> 00:05:10,039 Speaker 3: I think that my husband may be cheating on me 110 00:05:10,200 --> 00:05:14,640 Speaker 3: because I saw a Tinder notification on his phone, and 111 00:05:14,720 --> 00:05:17,280 Speaker 3: in order to find out, I made a fake profile. 112 00:05:17,320 --> 00:05:20,080 Speaker 3: I said my name was this girl Daily. She doesn't exist. 113 00:05:20,120 --> 00:05:22,960 Speaker 3: I made her up and he started chatting with her. 114 00:05:23,279 --> 00:05:25,960 Speaker 3: But it hasn't gone beyond just talking. So I don't 115 00:05:26,000 --> 00:05:29,360 Speaker 3: know if he's doing anything else on Tinder. I don't 116 00:05:29,400 --> 00:05:32,200 Speaker 3: know what's going on. I just know that he's been 117 00:05:32,240 --> 00:05:34,040 Speaker 3: talking to me as this girl named Dailey, and I 118 00:05:34,080 --> 00:05:35,240 Speaker 3: want to figure out what's going on. 119 00:05:35,400 --> 00:05:36,720 Speaker 1: All right? You ready for us to call on? 120 00:05:37,520 --> 00:05:39,600 Speaker 3: Yeah? I guess, so here we go. 121 00:05:51,120 --> 00:05:51,400 Speaker 1: Hello. 122 00:05:51,680 --> 00:05:54,200 Speaker 2: Hi, my name is Gorbyn calling from SIRS. I was 123 00:05:54,200 --> 00:05:56,560 Speaker 2: looking for our rewards card member named Chris. 124 00:05:57,279 --> 00:05:59,640 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, speak Chris. Please don't hang up. This is 125 00:05:59,640 --> 00:06:00,600 Speaker 1: not a marking phone call. 126 00:06:00,640 --> 00:06:03,880 Speaker 2: I'm actually calling to say congratulations, you're list onst big winner. 127 00:06:03,920 --> 00:06:05,880 Speaker 2: Thank you very much for shopping with us. 128 00:06:06,200 --> 00:06:08,240 Speaker 3: All right, well what does that mean? 129 00:06:08,720 --> 00:06:11,640 Speaker 2: Every single month we choose one rewards card member who 130 00:06:11,640 --> 00:06:13,839 Speaker 2: gets free flowers delivered from our floral department. 131 00:06:13,839 --> 00:06:15,320 Speaker 1: It's our way of saying thank you for shopping. 132 00:06:15,360 --> 00:06:17,720 Speaker 2: You've won thirty six long sim red roses a box 133 00:06:17,720 --> 00:06:19,680 Speaker 2: of chocolate or candy and a card to be delivered 134 00:06:19,680 --> 00:06:21,279 Speaker 2: to anybody that you want with in the fifty United 135 00:06:21,279 --> 00:06:22,040 Speaker 2: States of America. 136 00:06:22,240 --> 00:06:23,280 Speaker 1: It's absolutely free. 137 00:06:24,120 --> 00:06:25,480 Speaker 3: Oh wow, okay, cool. 138 00:06:25,720 --> 00:06:27,880 Speaker 1: Yeah. So here's how it works. 139 00:06:28,120 --> 00:06:29,000 Speaker 2: If you know who you want to us in the 140 00:06:29,040 --> 00:06:31,720 Speaker 2: flowers to right now, I can take the information down 141 00:06:31,720 --> 00:06:32,919 Speaker 2: over the phone in no matter of minutes. 142 00:06:33,560 --> 00:06:35,040 Speaker 3: Well, we can knock it out right now. 143 00:06:35,120 --> 00:06:38,800 Speaker 1: Oh, I got you? All right? Great. So what's the 144 00:06:38,839 --> 00:06:40,360 Speaker 1: first and last name of the person you'd like to 145 00:06:40,360 --> 00:06:40,760 Speaker 1: send him to. 146 00:06:41,680 --> 00:06:45,359 Speaker 5: It's the same last name. It's just my wife, Laura. Okay, 147 00:06:45,720 --> 00:06:47,480 Speaker 5: you have the address, but with the account. 148 00:06:48,360 --> 00:06:50,800 Speaker 1: Uh, yes, I too. Do you want to put anything 149 00:06:50,800 --> 00:06:51,240 Speaker 1: on a card? 150 00:06:52,160 --> 00:06:56,839 Speaker 3: Well, just tell her I love you very much and 151 00:06:57,680 --> 00:06:59,279 Speaker 3: you're you're you're my one. 152 00:07:00,080 --> 00:07:01,800 Speaker 5: Yeah, you're my one? Does that make sense? 153 00:07:01,920 --> 00:07:02,080 Speaker 3: Yeah? 154 00:07:02,120 --> 00:07:02,400 Speaker 1: Got it. 155 00:07:02,400 --> 00:07:05,320 Speaker 2: How long you guys been married, by the way, five years? 156 00:07:05,560 --> 00:07:07,919 Speaker 2: Oh boy, that's a long time. Do you ever have 157 00:07:08,000 --> 00:07:08,600 Speaker 2: another one? 158 00:07:09,320 --> 00:07:09,520 Speaker 3: Oh? 159 00:07:09,600 --> 00:07:12,640 Speaker 2: No, Chris, this is actually the Jubil Show. It's a 160 00:07:12,680 --> 00:07:13,800 Speaker 2: radio show. My name is Jubel. 161 00:07:13,840 --> 00:07:16,080 Speaker 4: Yeah, Hi, Chris, I mean also on the show, Hi, 162 00:07:16,120 --> 00:07:16,880 Speaker 4: and I'm Victoria. 163 00:07:17,200 --> 00:07:18,920 Speaker 2: We do a segment call to catch a Cheater and 164 00:07:18,920 --> 00:07:21,000 Speaker 2: your wife Laura is actually on the other line, and 165 00:07:21,040 --> 00:07:23,160 Speaker 2: she has some questions for you. 166 00:07:24,040 --> 00:07:28,880 Speaker 3: Hey, baby, Hi missed, took the right turn. What's happening. 167 00:07:30,200 --> 00:07:34,040 Speaker 3: I just want to know if you've been with other women, 168 00:07:34,560 --> 00:07:36,880 Speaker 3: or if you've thought about it, or if you're kind 169 00:07:36,920 --> 00:07:41,000 Speaker 3: of leaning in that direction. I'm like on the radio 170 00:07:41,120 --> 00:07:41,520 Speaker 3: right now. 171 00:07:42,240 --> 00:07:44,840 Speaker 5: Well, the answer, regardless of whether I'm on the radio 172 00:07:45,000 --> 00:07:48,080 Speaker 5: or not, is no, I've never been with anybody but you. 173 00:07:48,880 --> 00:07:51,720 Speaker 3: In our marriage. Do you want to be with somebody else? 174 00:07:51,960 --> 00:07:54,600 Speaker 3: Is there anybody else that you've been like thinking about 175 00:07:54,760 --> 00:07:55,680 Speaker 3: getting together with? 176 00:07:56,440 --> 00:07:58,440 Speaker 5: No, No, I haven't. 177 00:07:59,240 --> 00:08:04,160 Speaker 3: If I ask No, only name Bailey, what would she say? 178 00:08:04,440 --> 00:08:05,880 Speaker 3: Do you know who I'm talking about? Do you know 179 00:08:05,920 --> 00:08:12,760 Speaker 3: who Bailey is? No? Yeah, you do, because I'm Bailey. 180 00:08:13,560 --> 00:08:16,800 Speaker 3: I'm Bailey. I made that account and I've been messaging you. 181 00:08:18,560 --> 00:08:20,840 Speaker 3: I saw, I saw, I saw a tender on your phone. 182 00:08:20,960 --> 00:08:23,440 Speaker 3: I saw a notification come up. So I made the 183 00:08:23,480 --> 00:08:26,360 Speaker 3: Bailey profile. That's that's just a random photo of a 184 00:08:26,400 --> 00:08:27,679 Speaker 3: random girl I found online. 185 00:08:28,640 --> 00:08:30,760 Speaker 5: Okay, so we should probably like talk. 186 00:08:31,240 --> 00:08:35,200 Speaker 3: Yea, yeah, yeah, can we please talk right now? Because like, 187 00:08:35,320 --> 00:08:37,400 Speaker 3: as long as we've done this much on the radio, 188 00:08:37,440 --> 00:08:39,480 Speaker 3: I just like to wrap this up so I don't 189 00:08:39,480 --> 00:08:40,720 Speaker 3: go through life humiliated. 190 00:08:41,760 --> 00:08:46,400 Speaker 5: Yeah, well you shouldn't be humiliated. I did something very stupid. This, 191 00:08:46,400 --> 00:08:50,520 Speaker 5: this character you created was the only person I've been 192 00:08:50,880 --> 00:08:56,480 Speaker 5: in contact with, which is you, which is probably my 193 00:08:56,520 --> 00:08:59,559 Speaker 5: mind was kind of blown right now. I mean, as 194 00:08:59,600 --> 00:09:03,640 Speaker 5: you can see, since you were very much in on this, 195 00:09:03,880 --> 00:09:06,720 Speaker 5: like I wasn't. I crossed the line by opening it, 196 00:09:06,760 --> 00:09:09,840 Speaker 5: but I wasn't like being inappropriate. I've talked to no 197 00:09:09,880 --> 00:09:13,920 Speaker 5: one else, no one sent anything inappropriate. I've not gotten 198 00:09:13,960 --> 00:09:17,680 Speaker 5: anything inappropriate from anybody. I was just chatting and I, 199 00:09:18,080 --> 00:09:23,000 Speaker 5: you know, i'd like to ironically this Dailey was and 200 00:09:23,080 --> 00:09:26,000 Speaker 5: I just wanted to talk. It kind of like felt 201 00:09:26,080 --> 00:09:29,720 Speaker 5: like we were just things were stale with us or something, 202 00:09:29,760 --> 00:09:35,240 Speaker 5: and I wasn't looking to cheat. Look, I'm I'm really sorry. 203 00:09:35,360 --> 00:09:38,080 Speaker 5: I that was extremely stupid. But I can promise you 204 00:09:38,120 --> 00:09:41,520 Speaker 5: that I'm not cheating or doing anything like that. Not 205 00:09:41,640 --> 00:09:45,120 Speaker 5: that this wasn't wrong, but like I didn't I didn't 206 00:09:45,160 --> 00:09:49,240 Speaker 5: step out in a way that was physical or even 207 00:09:49,360 --> 00:09:52,320 Speaker 5: or even like well hopefully you can attest to like 208 00:09:52,520 --> 00:09:55,880 Speaker 5: wasn't even like inappropriately conversing with. 209 00:09:55,880 --> 00:10:01,319 Speaker 3: Anybody, you know, all right, Well, I mean clearly there 210 00:10:01,360 --> 00:10:03,840 Speaker 3: was something we both got from this, Like it was 211 00:10:03,920 --> 00:10:06,440 Speaker 3: thrilling for me in a certain way. It seems like 212 00:10:06,480 --> 00:10:08,040 Speaker 3: it was thrilling for you to be able to talk 213 00:10:08,080 --> 00:10:10,480 Speaker 3: to somebody else. But I feel like that's something we 214 00:10:10,559 --> 00:10:14,080 Speaker 3: can work on in our relationship. Like I'm still kind 215 00:10:14,120 --> 00:10:17,000 Speaker 3: of mad, but I can see what has been lacking, 216 00:10:17,080 --> 00:10:18,880 Speaker 3: and I hope we can work through it. 217 00:10:19,559 --> 00:10:22,480 Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm sorry. I'll show you all of it. You'll 218 00:10:22,640 --> 00:10:25,120 Speaker 5: at least be somewhat self assured by that, but I'm 219 00:10:25,160 --> 00:10:25,679 Speaker 5: really sorry. 220 00:10:26,000 --> 00:10:26,319 Speaker 3: Thank you. 221 00:10:26,440 --> 00:10:30,280 Speaker 2: N Yeah, I mean it sounds like he wasn't cheating, 222 00:10:30,480 --> 00:10:32,160 Speaker 2: but at least if he was going to, it would 223 00:10:32,160 --> 00:10:32,640 Speaker 2: be with you. 224 00:10:33,679 --> 00:10:33,920 Speaker 3: Yeah. 225 00:10:35,320 --> 00:10:37,240 Speaker 1: You guys obviously got some stuff to work out, so 226 00:10:38,000 --> 00:10:39,720 Speaker 1: good luck. Good luck is right. 227 00:10:40,280 --> 00:10:43,720 Speaker 3: Thanks guys, This was actually really helpful. I really appreciate 228 00:10:43,760 --> 00:10:44,640 Speaker 3: you helping me out with this. 229 00:10:46,000 --> 00:10:48,960 Speaker 1: The Jubile Shows to Catch a Cheater