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Speaker 1: All right. I Rapport Stereo Podcast It's fantasy football season,

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Speaker 1: the greatest time of the year.

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Speaker 2: I had him on last year.

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Speaker 1: I want to welcome back my guest, Dave Klugy, the

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Speaker 1: host of the Football Guys Fantasy Football show. It's like Christmas, Dave,

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Speaker 1: it's about to start. It's happening. How are you feeling.

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Speaker 3: I know, man, it snuck up on us quick. We

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Speaker 1: You know, there's no feelings in fantasy There is no feelings,

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Speaker 3: You know, I never thought fantasy football would be this big,

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Speaker 2: I just had my first draft. My first draft went well.

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Speaker 1: I wound up taking Tyreek in the first my first pick.

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Speaker 3: talk that keeps me going, man, Like, That's what I like,

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Speaker 3: Toby Gerhart in the third round. What was that six

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Speaker 3: And like you said, like you think you know what

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Speaker 3: mock drafts under digress right where you're you're the drafting.

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Speaker 2: Yes, yes, yeah, exactly. I do them on the freeway.

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Speaker 3: Upset down from a bar while somebody's punching you in

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Speaker 1: You never know what you're gonna be dealt with, what

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Speaker 1: have to make your seventh pick. You never know. You

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Speaker 3: And that's the thing. No matter how much you prepare, though,

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Speaker 3: like you said, when you get into these drafts with

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Speaker 3: all the preparation. Some guys do some crazy stuff, pick

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Speaker 1: Who are your breakout players this year? Who are your

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Speaker 3: more opportunities for big plays for ken Walker. And that's

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Speaker 3: So Kenneth Walker is a guy right now that I

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Speaker 3: even though I don't know if you can consider him

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Speaker 2: I love that.

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Speaker 1: Who else give me the other breakouts across the board

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Speaker 3: So I don't know if this counts as a breakout

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Speaker 3: You know, he's coming off the acl tair, he's already

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Speaker 3: I think he's that good of a football player. You

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Speaker 3: I can just kind of brush off with Jonathan Brooks.

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Speaker 3: You know, people talk about Carolina. Carolina was terrible last year.

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Speaker 3: I'm not going to argue with that, but they beefed

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Speaker 3: We know he's a talented player, and if he's given

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Speaker 1: I love that this is more of a sleeper question.

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Speaker 1: We're heading into the start of the season twenty twenty

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Speaker 1: there's new names, there's there's wings, there's prayers, there's hopes.

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Speaker 1: Who's the one person that everybody is gonna be like?

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Speaker 1: Who's the one person that you feel like, the one

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Speaker 3: I promise I'm not just trying to butter you up here.

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Speaker 3: Mike Malik Neighbors is a hell of a receiver man.

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Speaker 3: He is good, and I know there's some concerns don't

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Speaker 3: it's just screens, slants, end a rounds, they are going

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Speaker 1: I hope the Giants can do a little bit more

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Speaker 2: And you know, Dimes is our guy. He's our guy now,

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Speaker 1: That he could stay healthy. I also feel like, you know,

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Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes like he's literally running for his life. So

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Speaker 3: You know, I gotta say, I don't even hate Daniel

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Speaker 3: But we got to remember before the aclchair, this dude

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Speaker 3: You've been playing fantasy football a lot like a rushing

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Speaker 2: I would love that.

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Speaker 1: I would love that as a Giants fan, and I

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Speaker 2: You said two quarterback league.

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Speaker 1: about that. My first quarterback was Kyler Murray, which I

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Speaker 3: So I don't think there's anything wrong with it. If

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Speaker 3: then we did one late round sleeper pick, and Alfredo

433
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Speaker 3: and I both picked Kyler Murray as our guy. Because

434
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Speaker 3: where he's getting drafted right now, I'm guessing you probably

435
00:20:37,119 --> 00:20:38,840
Speaker 3: got him as like the seventh or eighth quarterback off

436
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Speaker 3: the board. That's typically where he's going. And this is

437
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Speaker 3: a guy who his rookie season, he was the QB

438
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Speaker 3: twelve in scoring, and then after that for the next

439
00:20:46,000 --> 00:20:47,919
Speaker 3: three years he was a top five quarterback. He was

440
00:20:47,960 --> 00:20:50,439
Speaker 3: QB four, he was QB five, QB four again, and

441
00:20:50,480 --> 00:20:54,560
Speaker 3: then last year he had no weapons. Marquise Brown was injured,

442
00:20:54,600 --> 00:20:57,200
Speaker 3: DeAndre Hopkins was out of the picture. He was coming

443
00:20:57,200 --> 00:20:59,400
Speaker 3: off an ACL tear, so he wasn't rushing as much,

444
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Speaker 3: and he was He's still the quarterback nine on a

445
00:21:01,520 --> 00:21:04,399
Speaker 3: per game basis. So that's the worst case scenario for

446
00:21:04,480 --> 00:21:07,040
Speaker 3: Kyler Murray is, you know, coming off of an injury,

447
00:21:07,160 --> 00:21:09,760
Speaker 3: having no weapons, and he's still giving you top ten production.

448
00:21:10,119 --> 00:21:12,280
Speaker 3: Now you look at Marvin Harrison Junior in the mix,

449
00:21:12,440 --> 00:21:14,479
Speaker 3: He's going to be almost two full years removed from

450
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Speaker 3: the ACL injury, so we should see that rushing upset again.

451
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Speaker 3: I've got Kyler Murray as my QB five, but it's

452
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Speaker 3: really easy to see him even finishing better than that.

453
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Speaker 3: So I love that pick there. And then Deshaun Watson,

454
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Speaker 3: you know, I really feel like I'm buttering you up

455
00:21:27,720 --> 00:21:29,040
Speaker 3: on the show, Mic, and that's not what I'm trying

456
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Speaker 3: to do. But you made some good picks here. Deshaun

457
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Speaker 3: Watson is another guy that I like. You look at

458
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Speaker 3: it last year and as a whole, this season was

459
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Speaker 3: just abysmal, like there wasn't a lot of good stuff,

460
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Speaker 3: but you start kind of looking at the context a

461
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Speaker 3: little bit. He only started and finished five games last year.

462
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Speaker 3: One of those games was terrible. One of those games

463
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Speaker 3: he was QB fourteen, but in three of the other

464
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Speaker 3: games he was a top ten quarterback. So people have

465
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Speaker 3: written this guy off for dead, and you know, they

466
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Speaker 3: think that he doesn't want to play football, they think

467
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Speaker 3: that he's washed. Whatever it may be. This guy was

468
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Speaker 3: a perennial top five quarter back when he was in Houston.

469
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Speaker 3: We saw him last year in three of five games,

470
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Speaker 3: still being a top ten quarterback. Now he's got Jerry

471
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Speaker 3: Judy there. We've seen David Nijoku breakout. They brought a

472
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Speaker 3: Marii Cooper back on a restructure deal, and again, kind

473
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Speaker 3: of like I was saying with Daniel Jones, they don't

474
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Speaker 3: have Nick Jubb, just like Daniel Jones doesn't have Saquon Barkley.

475
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Speaker 3: And a lack of a running game is going to

476
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Speaker 3: force them to pass more. It's going to force DeSean

477
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Speaker 3: Watson Watson to rush more. So I like it. I

478
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Speaker 3: think that, you know, Kyler Murray is obviously the better pick,

479
00:22:26,920 --> 00:22:28,760
Speaker 3: and he's going to be locked and loaded, but something

480
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Speaker 3: happens to him if he gets injured. He need to

481
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Speaker 3: make it through a bye week. I think Watson is

482
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Speaker 3: a great QB two to have.

483
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Speaker 2: I love that. Don't butter me up. I love that.

484
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Speaker 2: I love that. I feel that. I love to hear that.

485
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Speaker 2: You said.

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Speaker 1: Marvin Harrison Junior is Marvin Harrison Junior every single thing

487
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Speaker 1: that we hope and wish that he's been cracked out

488
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Speaker 1: to be and proven that he can be. I mean,

489
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Speaker 1: I think he's going to be unbelievable. But like, what

490
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Speaker 1: are you seeing in training? I mean, he's his disposition

491
00:23:01,480 --> 00:23:04,399
Speaker 1: just feels like a pro. Obviously his father had the

492
00:23:04,440 --> 00:23:08,320
Speaker 1: same sort of chill disposition. You know, I love you know,

493
00:23:08,359 --> 00:23:11,440
Speaker 1: in all sports most of the time, if your father's

494
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Speaker 1: a pro, you have an inside scoop.

495
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Speaker 2: What is your take on Marvin Harrison Junior.

496
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Speaker 3: He's gonna be great. I mean it's as simple as that. Like,

497
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Speaker 3: I can't imagine a world where things don't pan out

498
00:23:22,440 --> 00:23:25,000
Speaker 3: for Marvin Harrison. This kid has been living in breathing

499
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Speaker 3: football since the second he was born, probably at a

500
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Speaker 3: football in his crib, Like you know, you talk about

501
00:23:29,320 --> 00:23:31,000
Speaker 3: it with his dad. The pedigree, like he is that

502
00:23:31,080 --> 00:23:33,960
Speaker 3: good of a player, and the situation here is just perfect.

503
00:23:34,000 --> 00:23:37,440
Speaker 3: Like we've seen Kyler Murray support elite wide receiver once

504
00:23:37,480 --> 00:23:38,840
Speaker 3: in the past. You know, he gave us a fourteen

505
00:23:38,920 --> 00:23:41,600
Speaker 3: hundred yard season with DeAndre Hopkins. Now, of course, I

506
00:23:41,680 --> 00:23:44,280
Speaker 3: think the expectations for Marvin Harrison are so high, and

507
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Speaker 3: I think that we need to be realistic in the

508
00:23:46,400 --> 00:23:48,680
Speaker 3: fact that a lot of times it does take rookies

509
00:23:48,760 --> 00:23:50,600
Speaker 3: a little while to warm up in the season here,

510
00:23:50,680 --> 00:23:53,240
Speaker 3: so you're talking long term over the next five years.

511
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Speaker 3: I think Marvin Harrison's gonna be one of the best

512
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Speaker 3: wide receivers in the NFL for this year. I'm a

513
00:23:58,160 --> 00:24:00,400
Speaker 3: little bit cooler on him, you know, consent this has

514
00:24:00,480 --> 00:24:02,600
Speaker 3: him around wide receiver nine or ten. I've got him

515
00:24:02,600 --> 00:24:06,119
Speaker 3: at wide receiver fourteen, so not crazy, crazy low. But

516
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Speaker 3: there's a few guys Nico Collins, Jalen Waddle, Cooper Cup

517
00:24:09,240 --> 00:24:11,560
Speaker 3: that I prefer ahead of Marvin Harrison. But I could

518
00:24:11,600 --> 00:24:15,200
Speaker 3: totally be wrong because Marvin Harrison, he's the unquestioned wide

519
00:24:15,200 --> 00:24:17,440
Speaker 3: receiver one, I mean, the wide receiver two right there?

520
00:24:17,840 --> 00:24:20,879
Speaker 3: Is it Greg Dortch or is it Zay Jones, Michael Wilson,

521
00:24:20,880 --> 00:24:23,679
Speaker 3: They don't really have anybody. They've got Trey McBride, but

522
00:24:23,880 --> 00:24:26,639
Speaker 3: he and Marvin Harrison operate in completely different parts of

523
00:24:26,640 --> 00:24:29,320
Speaker 3: the field. Harrison's going to be out wide, Trey McBride's

524
00:24:29,320 --> 00:24:30,960
Speaker 3: going to be across the middle of the field on

525
00:24:31,040 --> 00:24:34,240
Speaker 3: shorter routes. So they're complimentary pieces for each other. So

526
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Speaker 3: I understand why Harrison is getting drafted where he is.

527
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Speaker 3: The ceiling is potentially top three, top five at the position.

528
00:24:42,200 --> 00:24:44,280
Speaker 3: I just like some of those veterans a little bit better.

529
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Speaker 3: Like I said, Cooper Cup, Jalen Wattle, Nico Collins. I'll

530
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Speaker 3: take them ahead of Marvin Harrison. But if he falls

531
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Speaker 3: to me the back of the second round, really good pick.

532
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Speaker 3: He's going to be a good football player and he's

533
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Speaker 3: in a great situation.

534
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Speaker 1: You mentioned you guys just did a podcast or an

535
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Speaker 1: episode of Football Guys Fantasy Football show. You said your guys,

536
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Speaker 1: You mentioned your guys. You said, my guy Kyler Murray

537
00:25:06,760 --> 00:25:11,720
Speaker 1: was also your guy. Who did you also have as

538
00:25:12,040 --> 00:25:14,520
Speaker 1: your guys? Like you know, cause I feel like in

539
00:25:14,520 --> 00:25:17,560
Speaker 1: a draft, you need to know your guys, get your guys.

540
00:25:18,080 --> 00:25:21,000
Speaker 1: It's almost more important to know who you don't want

541
00:25:21,440 --> 00:25:23,440
Speaker 1: than it is to know who you want, or it's

542
00:25:23,640 --> 00:25:26,320
Speaker 1: just as important to know who you just don't want.

543
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Speaker 2: So who were your guys?

544
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Speaker 3: So talked about Kyler Murray already and I already talked

545
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Speaker 3: about Jonathan Brooks as well. That was my quarterback and

546
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Speaker 3: running back. And I just mentioned that I have Cooper

547
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Speaker 3: Cup ahead of Marvin Harrison. Cooper Cup's my guy at

548
00:25:39,720 --> 00:25:41,879
Speaker 3: the wide receiver position, and I think people are just

549
00:25:42,200 --> 00:25:44,679
Speaker 3: quick to forget how dominant this guy was just a

550
00:25:44,680 --> 00:25:46,719
Speaker 3: few years ago. You know, over a two year stretch,

551
00:25:46,960 --> 00:25:50,000
Speaker 3: he averaged over twenty five points per game in PPR leagues.

552
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Speaker 3: If you look, he scored thirty plus points in one

553
00:25:53,760 --> 00:25:56,080
Speaker 3: third of his matchups over a two year stretch. Like

554
00:25:56,119 --> 00:25:58,760
Speaker 3: as soon as Matthew Stafford came into the picture, Cooper

555
00:25:58,760 --> 00:26:01,080
Speaker 3: Cup immediately became the best wide receiver in the league.

556
00:26:01,160 --> 00:26:03,440
Speaker 3: We haven't seen anybody putting up numbers like that since

557
00:26:03,480 --> 00:26:06,200
Speaker 3: Antonio Brown when he was in Pittsburgh. And I think

558
00:26:06,240 --> 00:26:08,359
Speaker 3: now people are just a little bit concerned because Pookin

559
00:26:08,400 --> 00:26:10,480
Speaker 3: a Coua is there. You know, Cooper Cup's getting up

560
00:26:10,480 --> 00:26:13,639
Speaker 3: there in age. He's dealt with some injuries. But you know,

561
00:26:13,800 --> 00:26:16,880
Speaker 3: I keep it closer to the beat reports this time

562
00:26:16,920 --> 00:26:19,360
Speaker 3: of year and everything that I'm hearing out of Los Angeles.

563
00:26:19,359 --> 00:26:21,440
Speaker 3: One Pookina Coupa has banged up right now, so he's

564
00:26:21,440 --> 00:26:23,040
Speaker 3: not going to be one hundred percent to start the year.

565
00:26:23,359 --> 00:26:26,320
Speaker 3: And everybody is saying that Matthew Stafford and Cooper Cup

566
00:26:26,520 --> 00:26:28,640
Speaker 3: look like Matthew Stafford and Cooper Cup from two three

567
00:26:28,720 --> 00:26:31,320
Speaker 3: years ago. So there aren't many guys that you can

568
00:26:31,400 --> 00:26:35,119
Speaker 3: draft in round three that are going to have legitimate

569
00:26:35,240 --> 00:26:38,320
Speaker 3: upside to be number one receivers. And I'm not saying

570
00:26:38,320 --> 00:26:39,840
Speaker 3: that like Cooper Cup. I'm not saying like a wide

571
00:26:39,840 --> 00:26:42,680
Speaker 3: receiver one is like top twelve. I'm saying he could

572
00:26:42,720 --> 00:26:45,280
Speaker 3: literally be the wide receiver one giving you twenty five

573
00:26:45,280 --> 00:26:47,880
Speaker 3: plus points per game, and you're drafting him in round three.

574
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Speaker 3: So I think all of the risk is baked into

575
00:26:50,600 --> 00:26:52,600
Speaker 3: his price with where he's sliding in drafts, and he

576
00:26:52,680 --> 00:26:54,080
Speaker 3: has so so much upside.

577
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Speaker 1: Damn podcast, you mentioned your hard knocks. Hard Knocks is

578
00:27:14,880 --> 00:27:18,920
Speaker 1: a part of my life. It gets me focused, the thrills,

579
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Speaker 1: the chills. Although I feel like the season of Hard

580
00:27:21,760 --> 00:27:25,960
Speaker 1: Knocks for the Bears, they haven't focused as much on

581
00:27:26,720 --> 00:27:29,000
Speaker 1: you know, these guys that might for a show. They

582
00:27:29,000 --> 00:27:31,040
Speaker 1: haven't focused as much as they normally do as guys

583
00:27:31,080 --> 00:27:33,280
Speaker 1: that might make the team not make the team. My

584
00:27:33,400 --> 00:27:36,400
Speaker 1: wife and I we watch it every season, and she's

585
00:27:36,400 --> 00:27:38,320
Speaker 1: always like, I'm gonna watch football this season, and then

586
00:27:38,320 --> 00:27:40,040
Speaker 1: she's telling me to turn it off and turn off

587
00:27:40,040 --> 00:27:41,359
Speaker 1: my red zone and all that stuff.

588
00:27:41,760 --> 00:27:44,560
Speaker 2: But you know, like as far.

589
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Speaker 1: As the season, I don't think it's the best season

590
00:27:46,760 --> 00:27:47,959
Speaker 1: of Hard Knocks, but I watch it.

591
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Speaker 2: I've never missed an episode.

592
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Speaker 1: What are you thinking about your Chicago Bear Golden Boy quarterback?

593
00:27:56,720 --> 00:28:00,760
Speaker 1: Where do you think things are going to how do

594
00:28:00,800 --> 00:28:02,560
Speaker 1: you think things are going to start for him? And

595
00:28:02,600 --> 00:28:04,879
Speaker 1: how do you think they're going to finish? And because

596
00:28:04,920 --> 00:28:07,440
Speaker 1: you're a Chicago guy, I know you pay a little

597
00:28:07,440 --> 00:28:10,080
Speaker 1: bit more attention whether you try to or not. On

598
00:28:10,119 --> 00:28:13,280
Speaker 1: the Chicago Bears. I drafted Dj Moore. I'm hoping he

599
00:28:13,400 --> 00:28:16,080
Speaker 1: kicks butt. How do you feel about the quarterback and

600
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Speaker 1: the rest of the offense of the Bears?

601
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Speaker 3: So, you know, it's tough being a Bears fan. Man,

602
00:28:21,880 --> 00:28:25,520
Speaker 3: I've been on this earth for thirty four years and

603
00:28:25,560 --> 00:28:27,359
Speaker 3: I've never seen a Super Bowl win. I saw him

604
00:28:27,359 --> 00:28:29,120
Speaker 3: make it to one Super Bowl and get picked apart

605
00:28:29,119 --> 00:28:32,120
Speaker 3: by Peyton Manning. So I feel like I'm an eternal

606
00:28:32,240 --> 00:28:34,480
Speaker 3: pessimist when it comes to the Bears, and I'm always

607
00:28:34,520 --> 00:28:36,560
Speaker 3: trying to like, you know, I don't want to be

608
00:28:36,600 --> 00:28:38,880
Speaker 3: the guy sipping the kool aid, but man, it's hard

609
00:28:38,960 --> 00:28:41,520
Speaker 3: not to with this team. Like Caleb Williams is just

610
00:28:41,600 --> 00:28:43,360
Speaker 3: a different type of athlete and a lot of the

611
00:28:43,880 --> 00:28:46,600
Speaker 3: special things that were showing up on his tape at USC,

612
00:28:46,800 --> 00:28:51,160
Speaker 3: you know, his ability to avoid pressure and get outside

613
00:28:51,160 --> 00:28:54,080
Speaker 3: of the pocket and make these offscript plays, and just

614
00:28:54,480 --> 00:28:56,800
Speaker 3: the arm angles and the throwing on the run. All

615
00:28:56,880 --> 00:28:59,680
Speaker 3: of those things that we saw in college are already

616
00:28:59,680 --> 00:29:02,400
Speaker 3: happy in the preseason. And you know, like that throw

617
00:29:02,440 --> 00:29:05,920
Speaker 3: that he made to Roma Dunsay down the sideline just effortlessly,

618
00:29:06,080 --> 00:29:08,920
Speaker 3: just like floated a perfect ball over defender into his hands,

619
00:29:09,000 --> 00:29:12,120
Speaker 3: then followed that up with an amazing almost touchdown throw

620
00:29:12,200 --> 00:29:13,800
Speaker 3: and Dunese had his toes out of the end zone.

621
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Speaker 3: So I don't want to sit the kool aid because

622
00:29:16,000 --> 00:29:18,040
Speaker 3: I've been hurt so many times. You know. I had

623
00:29:18,080 --> 00:29:21,840
Speaker 3: hopes for Justin Fields and Jay Cutler and Rex Grossman

624
00:29:22,000 --> 00:29:24,480
Speaker 3: and Cade McNown but I think Kayleb Williams is a

625
00:29:24,520 --> 00:29:26,560
Speaker 3: different type of player, and I'm definitely starting to warm

626
00:29:26,600 --> 00:29:28,560
Speaker 3: up to the idea that he could be a good quarterback.

627
00:29:29,320 --> 00:29:32,520
Speaker 3: As for the passing game, I'm really excited about DJ Moore.

628
00:29:32,560 --> 00:29:34,080
Speaker 3: And there's a lot of mouths to feed here with

629
00:29:34,160 --> 00:29:37,640
Speaker 3: Keenan Allen and Romadonsay and kolk Met, But I was

630
00:29:37,680 --> 00:29:39,880
Speaker 3: on NBC Chicago last week and we were talking about

631
00:29:39,880 --> 00:29:41,960
Speaker 3: the Bears a little bit, and I said, DJ Moore

632
00:29:42,520 --> 00:29:45,160
Speaker 3: is still, in my opinion, an elite wide receiver, even

633
00:29:45,200 --> 00:29:47,440
Speaker 3: with the added touch competition. I think all of these

634
00:29:47,440 --> 00:29:49,320
Speaker 3: guys are just going to help him get more open.

635
00:29:49,720 --> 00:29:52,440
Speaker 3: Last year, if you watch the team, the defenses were

636
00:29:52,480 --> 00:29:54,760
Speaker 3: keying in, they were double teaming Dj Moore because they

637
00:29:54,840 --> 00:29:57,760
Speaker 3: knew there was no other receiving threat, and he still

638
00:29:57,840 --> 00:30:00,960
Speaker 3: went for almost fourteen hundred yards. Now we're expecting more

639
00:30:00,960 --> 00:30:03,400
Speaker 3: passing yards as a whole for Chicago. This guy, throughout

640
00:30:03,400 --> 00:30:06,600
Speaker 3: his entire career has typically garnered about forty percent of

641
00:30:06,640 --> 00:30:08,600
Speaker 3: the air yards for the teams that he plays for.

642
00:30:08,920 --> 00:30:10,800
Speaker 3: So it's not crazy to think that DJ Moore, coming

643
00:30:10,800 --> 00:30:13,200
Speaker 3: off of a career year, can have an even better

644
00:30:13,280 --> 00:30:14,600
Speaker 3: year in twenty twenty four.

645
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Speaker 2: I agree.

646
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Speaker 1: And they got a lot of weapons, They got a

647
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Speaker 1: lot of people who can throw the ball. He could

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Speaker 1: throw the ball too, so I think they're setting him

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Speaker 1: up for success.

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Speaker 2: What do you think of rome A Duneesa what you've

651
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Speaker 2: seen so far? How good do you think he's going

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Speaker 2: to be.

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Speaker 3: I think he's going to be really good. And we've

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Speaker 3: looked back. My co host and I Alfredo, we looked

655
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Speaker 3: back at previous draft classes and we said, like, where

656
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Speaker 3: would we rank Roma Duneesa in these draft classes? Because

657
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Speaker 3: I think a lot of people see him as the

658
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Speaker 3: third wide receiver drafted off the board and think that

659
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Speaker 3: he's just the third best in this class. But you got,

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Speaker 3: I don't think people understand how good Molique Neighbors and

661
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Speaker 3: Marvin Harrison are. And if you start looking back at

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Speaker 3: previous draft classes, you know, we'd put Jamar Chase ahead

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Speaker 3: of Roma Doonsa, we would put DJ Moore ahead of

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Speaker 3: Roma Dunessay, woul put Garrett Wilson ahead of Romadonsay. But

665
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Speaker 3: he's basically he would have been the wide receiver one

666
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Speaker 3: in like five of the last eight draft classes. He

667
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Speaker 3: is that good of a wide receiver. So in my rankings,

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Speaker 3: I'm one of the few that's done this, but I

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Speaker 3: have Romadonsay ahead of Keenan Allen. You know, Keenan Allen

670
00:31:14,080 --> 00:31:17,440
Speaker 3: is thirty two years old. He stayed healthy last year

671
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Speaker 3: for the most part, got banged up at the end

672
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Speaker 3: of the season, but he's dealt with injuries throughout his career,

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Speaker 3: and I think that there's gonna be a breaking point

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Speaker 3: in this season where they say, you know, we're not

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Speaker 3: bringing Keenan Allen back next year on a contract. He's

676
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Speaker 3: kind of a one year band aid. He's going to

677
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Speaker 3: help develop Caleb Williams a little bit. But DJ Moore

678
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Speaker 3: is under contract for the next five years. Romadunzay and

679
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Speaker 3: Caleb Williams are both on the rookie deals right now.

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Speaker 3: They've got Cole Comet locked up for the next five years.

681
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Speaker 3: I think there's gonna be a point at midway point

682
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Speaker 3: in the season where they're going to say, we need

683
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Speaker 3: to get Romadunze out there ahead of Keenan Allen on

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Speaker 3: these two wide receiver sets. And the second half of

685
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Speaker 3: the year in fantasy football is so much more important

686
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Speaker 3: than the first half of the year. So even if

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Speaker 3: Romadonese gets off to a slow start, I'm going to

688
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Speaker 3: be trying to buy low on him in trades because

689
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Speaker 3: I think that over the second half of the season

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Speaker 3: he's going to be the second year weapon on this offense.

691
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Speaker 3: And what we've seen is that he is just a

692
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Speaker 3: great athlete. You know, you kind of talk about Marvin

693
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Speaker 3: Harrison just being a pro, just ready to work. You know,

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Speaker 3: showing up, none of the drama or anything like that.

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Speaker 3: And Rome checks all those boxes too. So I'm a big,

696
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Speaker 3: big fan of him. I've got him inside my top

697
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Speaker 3: thirty five receivers in fantasy.

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Speaker 1: Every single year, the tight end is discussed, not discussed.

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Speaker 2: Don't go high, you don't need a tight end.

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Speaker 1: And then, you know, I'll say for myself, you know,

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Speaker 1: I've had game after game where I've had tight ends

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Speaker 1: where like, you're on the field, you're my starting tight end.

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Speaker 2: I can't have zero points from you.

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Speaker 1: You know, and aside from Travis Kelson, you know, Georgie

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Speaker 1: the Animal Kittle or you know, I wound up getting

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Speaker 1: Dalton Schultz. I think I went a little bit later

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Speaker 1: than I wanted to with my tight end. Dalton is

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Speaker 1: good when he's getting the ball. Hopefully he gets the

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Speaker 1: ball because he's my tight end, even though he's on

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Speaker 1: a team that I'm not a huge fan of personally.

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Speaker 1: But like I said, there's no feelings in fantasy football.

712
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Speaker 1: What are your feelings about superstar super No, he's not

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Speaker 1: even just a super star in the NFL, Travis kels Now,

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Speaker 1: he's a popular culture a phenomenon. What do you think

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Speaker 1: of Travis kels and what are your other tight ends

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Speaker 1: that people should be looking at and how early would

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Speaker 1: you go on tight ends?

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Speaker 3: I think tight ends are the position that I'm most

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Speaker 3: interested in this offseason and probably spent the most time

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Speaker 3: talking about, because the tight end landscape has changed dramatically.

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Speaker 3: You know, like for the last five years, it was like,

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Speaker 3: if you don't have Travis kelce you're screwed. And you know,

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Speaker 3: when you play against Travis kelcey, it's almost impossible to

724
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Speaker 3: make up that difference that he's giving you as a

725
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Speaker 3: positional advantage. But then Mark Andrews broke out in Baltimore,

726
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Speaker 3: and then TJ. Hockinson got traded to Minnesota and he

727
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Speaker 3: broke out, and then Evan Ingram ended up in Jacksonville

728
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Speaker 3: and he broke out. And then we saw all these

729
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Speaker 3: young guys, you know, Dalton Kincaid and Sam Laporta and

730
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Speaker 3: Trey McBride all kind of burst onto the scene. And

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Speaker 3: now all of a sudden, we're not living in this

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Speaker 3: Travis kelceer bust world. There are like seven good tight

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Speaker 3: ends that you can feel decent about drafting. So the

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Speaker 3: way I'm trying to do it this year, Travis Kelsey's

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Speaker 3: still my tight end one. You know, we saw him

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Speaker 3: dip a little bit in production last year, but on

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Speaker 3: a per game basis, he was still the tight end one,

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Speaker 3: even dealing with injuries and all that. So Travis Kelsey

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Speaker 3: is still my guy at number one. But what I'm

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Speaker 3: trying to do is wait, you know, let some other

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Speaker 3: guys pay up for Travis Kelcey and Sam Laporta in

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Speaker 3: round three. What I find myself liking to do is

743
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Speaker 3: wait for everybody else to pay out for those guys,

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Speaker 3: and then in round five, George Kittle's usually sitting there.

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Speaker 3: And like you said, you called him Kittle the animal.

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Speaker 3: I think you did. I mean, the dude's a beast

747
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Speaker 3: when he's on the football field. And the big knock

748
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Speaker 3: with George Kittle in years past has been that he

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Speaker 3: doesn't run enough routes, that he's always blocking and not

750
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Speaker 3: running routes, and you don't get points in fantasy football

751
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Speaker 3: for blocking. But his route participation rate, meaning how often

752
00:35:00,800 --> 00:35:03,600
Speaker 3: he runs a route on passing downs, has gone up

753
00:35:03,640 --> 00:35:06,879
Speaker 3: for six consecutive seasons, and last year he had the

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Speaker 3: third highest route participation in the NFL. And while doing that,

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Speaker 3: while maintaining this, you know, growing role as a pass catcher.

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Speaker 3: He still led the league in receiving yards yards per route, run,

757
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Speaker 3: yards per target, yards per reception, yards per team pass attempts, EPA,

758
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Speaker 3: deep targets Like I could go on and on. You

759
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Speaker 3: look on an efficiency standpoint, and this guy was top

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Speaker 3: three in every single efficiency metric. So Kittle is the

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Speaker 3: guy that I find myself really liking. But after Kittle

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Speaker 3: goes off the board, and you probably experienced this, there's

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Speaker 3: a falloff where you know, when you start looking at

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Speaker 3: David Djoku, Jake Ferguson, Brock Bauers, Dalton Schultz, you know,

765
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Speaker 3: these guys could have some big weeks, but it's going

766
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Speaker 3: to be kind of shaky. So my advice, Mike, are

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Speaker 3: you in a PPR league or is it non PPR PPR?

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Speaker 3: All right, so he's not quite as valuable in PPR

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Speaker 3: leagues as he is in non PPR leagues. But Taysom

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Speaker 3: Hill has been a top ten tight end for four

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Speaker 3: straight seasons. And I think if you miss out on

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Speaker 3: those top seven guys that I mentioned, kind of ending

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Speaker 3: with George Kittle and Evan Ingram, the guy that I

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Speaker 3: like to pick up is Taysom Hill because he's gonna

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Speaker 3: have highs and lows, and the reality at the tight

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Speaker 3: end position is the lows aren't going to kill you.

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Speaker 3: You know, if you're getting three or four points from

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Speaker 3: your tight end, the tight end you're playing against is

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Speaker 3: probably only given seven or eight, so it's not a

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Speaker 3: huge difference. But Taysom Hill is those weeks where he

781
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Speaker 3: gives you twenty twenty five points and you're not getting

782
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Speaker 3: those from a lot of other tight ends. So Taysom

783
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Speaker 3: Hill's a guy that I like if I miss out

784
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Speaker 3: on the early guys as kind of a late round target.

785
00:36:33,440 --> 00:36:34,840
Speaker 3: And the other guy that I like picking up is

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Speaker 3: TJ Hockinson. And TJ Hockinson is probably not playing the

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00:36:37,960 --> 00:36:39,920
Speaker 3: first six or eight weeks, but if you got an

788
00:36:39,960 --> 00:36:42,759
Speaker 3: ir spot or if you've got deep benches, just stash him,

789
00:36:42,800 --> 00:36:44,560
Speaker 3: wait for him to come back, and you could potentially

790
00:36:44,560 --> 00:36:46,279
Speaker 3: be getting a top five guy over the second half

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00:36:46,280 --> 00:36:46,680
Speaker 3: of the year.

792
00:36:47,600 --> 00:36:49,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, I like that, and I like TJ.

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Speaker 1: I Again, you know, tight ends and this is something

794
00:36:54,120 --> 00:36:59,040
Speaker 1: that I feel like in fantasy football is underrated, underappreciated

795
00:36:59,160 --> 00:37:02,000
Speaker 1: until you're getting every single week, or until you see

796
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Speaker 1: somebody else in your league or until you have the

797
00:37:04,120 --> 00:37:09,640
Speaker 1: good fortune of defense's scoring points. Is there one or

798
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Speaker 1: two defenses you feel like are you need to get,

799
00:37:14,640 --> 00:37:16,640
Speaker 1: even if it's a pick early or just to keep

800
00:37:16,680 --> 00:37:18,839
Speaker 1: your eyes on that are gonna score points for you.

801
00:37:19,880 --> 00:37:21,799
Speaker 3: Yeah, the two that jump out to me are the

802
00:37:21,840 --> 00:37:24,479
Speaker 3: obvious ones, the Ravens and the forty nine ers. They're

803
00:37:24,480 --> 00:37:26,279
Speaker 3: gonna have a ton of sacks, they're gonna have a

804
00:37:26,280 --> 00:37:28,840
Speaker 3: ton of turnovers, They're gonna score touchdowns on defense and

805
00:37:28,920 --> 00:37:31,520
Speaker 3: special teams. So I'm okay paying up for those guys.

806
00:37:31,520 --> 00:37:34,279
Speaker 3: But if I don't get the Ravens or the forty

807
00:37:34,360 --> 00:37:37,799
Speaker 3: nine ers, I'm probably just committing to streaming defenses. And

808
00:37:37,840 --> 00:37:39,680
Speaker 3: I think that scares a lot of people, Like, you know,

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00:37:39,719 --> 00:37:41,840
Speaker 3: you want to have that rock solid option that you

810
00:37:41,840 --> 00:37:43,920
Speaker 3: could just plug in week in and weak out, like

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Speaker 3: you know, three years ago, like if you had the

812
00:37:46,239 --> 00:37:48,680
Speaker 3: Patriots defense, they were giving you like twenty points per

813
00:37:48,760 --> 00:37:50,440
Speaker 3: game as a defense and you didn't have to think

814
00:37:50,440 --> 00:37:53,680
Speaker 3: twice about it. But those are so rare to stumble across.

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00:37:53,719 --> 00:37:55,720
Speaker 3: So I'm gonna shout out one of my co workers,

816
00:37:56,040 --> 00:37:58,440
Speaker 3: Sigmund Bloom. He's been doing this for twenty five years,

817
00:37:58,440 --> 00:38:00,560
Speaker 3: he's a great writer. He hosts one of our shows

818
00:38:00,560 --> 00:38:03,800
Speaker 3: of the Audible, and he writes a weekly article about

819
00:38:03,800 --> 00:38:06,040
Speaker 3: streaming defenses. And what he does is he looks at

820
00:38:06,040 --> 00:38:08,680
Speaker 3: the defenses that are owned in less than fifty percent

821
00:38:08,680 --> 00:38:12,040
Speaker 3: of fantasy leagues and he matches them up against the

822
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Speaker 3: or he looks at the best matchups every single week.

823
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Speaker 3: And it's unbelievable. But he's been doing this for the

824
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Speaker 3: last twenty twenty five years now. And if you look

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Speaker 3: at what he does on a weekly basis, taking these

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Speaker 3: low owned defenses that are going up against good matchups

827
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Speaker 3: almost every single year, if you look at his weekly

828
00:38:28,120 --> 00:38:31,160
Speaker 3: recommendations and add up the points that they score, you're

829
00:38:31,200 --> 00:38:33,440
Speaker 3: gonna get more points with them than you would with

830
00:38:33,480 --> 00:38:36,239
Speaker 3: the top scoring defense. So it's scary, and you got

831
00:38:36,280 --> 00:38:38,319
Speaker 3: to play the waiver wire all season long and you're

832
00:38:38,360 --> 00:38:41,919
Speaker 3: constantly churning through defenses on your bench. But defenses are

833
00:38:42,000 --> 00:38:45,880
Speaker 3: so heavily skewed by matchups that I think that's the

834
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Speaker 3: way to do it, even if it is a bigger headache.

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Speaker 1: I love that. I love what you just said, and

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Speaker 1: I love that plan of attack. Where can we see

837
00:38:55,120 --> 00:38:58,400
Speaker 1: that article every single week? Because that's something that I'm into.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, football, what I'll do, I'll send you the link

839
00:39:01,960 --> 00:39:05,080
Speaker 3: for it. First of all, if you're listening, you want

840
00:39:05,120 --> 00:39:07,040
Speaker 3: to sign up, you can go to football Guys dot

841
00:39:07,040 --> 00:39:10,520
Speaker 3: com and sign up for our email newsletter that goes

842
00:39:10,520 --> 00:39:12,320
Speaker 3: out every single day. We've got over seven hundred and

843
00:39:12,320 --> 00:39:14,920
Speaker 3: fifty thousand people on this newsletter with NFL News. But

844
00:39:14,960 --> 00:39:16,920
Speaker 3: we also share all of our content in there. So

845
00:39:16,960 --> 00:39:20,240
Speaker 3: this article that Sigmund does comes out every Tuesday morning,

846
00:39:20,280 --> 00:39:21,840
Speaker 3: so that way you can read it before you have

847
00:39:21,880 --> 00:39:24,239
Speaker 3: to put your waiver claims in. But he's been doing

848
00:39:24,239 --> 00:39:26,040
Speaker 3: it for the last twenty something years and it's a

849
00:39:26,040 --> 00:39:28,960
Speaker 3: fantastic article. So I'll send that your way when we're

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Speaker 3: done recording here, Mike, and you can just check it

851
00:39:31,480 --> 00:39:32,200
Speaker 3: out every week.

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Speaker 1: Podcast. All right, Well, you've given me so much, you

853
00:39:50,440 --> 00:39:53,160
Speaker 1: given me a lot. What is one other thing that

854
00:39:53,200 --> 00:39:55,000
Speaker 1: you want to share? What is one other thing that

855
00:39:55,040 --> 00:39:56,759
Speaker 1: I didn't ask? What is one other thing that is

856
00:39:56,800 --> 00:39:59,880
Speaker 1: exciting you? One other player, one other high powered a

857
00:40:00,040 --> 00:40:03,440
Speaker 1: offense that you can give me, Dave, And I say me,

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Speaker 1: I'm being selfish, but I mean the listeners, but I

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Speaker 1: also mean me.

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Speaker 3: All right, Can I just zoom out rather than talking

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Speaker 3: about a player and just talk about like my favorite

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Speaker 3: strategy this year overall. Yes, yes, all right, So I'm

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Speaker 3: a Sickoh, Mike. I know you do two drafts a year.

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Speaker 3: I do about three hundred drafts a year, and a

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Speaker 3: lot of those are best ball where you don't have to,

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Speaker 3: you know, manage in season. You know, I just do

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Speaker 3: the draft and then they pick the best scores for

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Speaker 3: you every single week. But I've done over three hundred

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Speaker 3: of these drafts this offseason, and I've played with all

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Speaker 3: of these different team builds, and then you know, you

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Speaker 3: run simulations and see how these teams finish, and it

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Speaker 3: seems like this is the year that you just want

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Speaker 3: to wait on running backs. You don't want to pay

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Speaker 3: up for running backs this year because there's so much

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Speaker 3: good value late in your draft. So we talked about it.

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Speaker 3: The wide receiver well kind of dries up a little

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Speaker 3: bit quickly this year. So what I'm trying to do

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Speaker 3: is start almost all of my drafts with three straight

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Speaker 3: wide receivers. You know, you talk about those guys going

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Speaker 3: in Round one, Tyreek Hill, Ceedee Lamb, Amon ra Saint Brown,

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Speaker 3: Chase Justin Jefferson. You get one of those guys in

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Speaker 3: round one, and then in round two you target you know,

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Speaker 3: Cooper Cup, Nico Collins, a guy like that. In round three,

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Speaker 3: you could follow him up with Jayalen Waddle, DJ Moore,

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Speaker 3: somebody like that. You know, start off with three good

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Speaker 3: wide receivers, and it's scary because you're passing on some

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Speaker 3: guys that I really like, Like I like Bresee Hall,

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Speaker 3: I like Bjon Robinson, Jamir Gibbs, Jonathan Taylor. These guys

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Speaker 3: are good. But the nature of the NFL is that

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Speaker 3: running backs get injured and then they also will see

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Speaker 3: their workloads just kind of disappear or they end up

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Speaker 3: splitting touches with the back and we don't expect it.

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Speaker 3: So rather than paying up and investing premium draft capital

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Speaker 3: in these guys, I like waiting on some of the

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Speaker 3: later guys, you know, David Montgomery, Alvin Kamara, James Connor,

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Speaker 3: Ramadre Stevenson, Najie Harris, these guys that we think are

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Speaker 3: kind of boring running backs because they might not finish

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Speaker 3: number one at their position. But you get one or

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Speaker 3: two of those guys and then what I do late

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Speaker 3: late late in drafts is I just load up on handcuffs,

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Speaker 3: and I think a lot of people when they think handcuff,

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Speaker 3: they think they're team's handcuffs. So like if you draft

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Speaker 3: Christian McCaffrey, you want Jordan Mason, or if you draft

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Speaker 3: Breese Hall, you want Braylan Allen. But what I do,

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Speaker 3: I just get greedy and I take all of the

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Speaker 3: backups from all the other teams. So I'm taking Trey

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Speaker 3: Benson and Blake Korum and all these young guys knowing

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Speaker 3: that they're basically lottery tickets that are sitting on my bench.

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Speaker 3: Like right now, Blake Korum might not have any projectable

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Speaker 3: work in week one, but if Kyen Williams tweaks his

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Speaker 3: ankle in week one, then going into week two, we're

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Speaker 3: looking at Blake Korum as a potential top five running back.

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Speaker 3: You drafted him in round twelve at the very end

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Speaker 3: of your draft and potentially got top five production. We

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Speaker 3: never really see that happen with the wide receiver position.

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Speaker 3: I mean it happens occasionally, like people are going to

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Speaker 3: talk about pookinakooah things of that nature, But the reality

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Speaker 3: is we as an industry and that's what bleeds into

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Speaker 3: ADP are way better at projecting for receivers. So take

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Speaker 3: those safe assets early in your draft. Walk away with

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Speaker 3: three or four receivers in your first three or four rounds,

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Speaker 3: and then just load up on these middle to late

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Speaker 3: round running backs, knowing that the chaos of the NFL

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Speaker 3: eventually is going to make some of these guys that

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Speaker 3: you're getting for absolutely nothing at the end of your draft,

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Speaker 3: guys that you can count on starting.

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Speaker 2: I love this, Dave. I love this. I love the information.

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Speaker 1: I love the football guys, Fantasy football show, send me everything,

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Speaker 1: send me the links, send me the articles, because I'm

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Speaker 1: going to use them, and I think it's important for

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Speaker 1: everybody to use them and to be ready to know

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Speaker 1: their guys, to get your.

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Speaker 2: Guys, know who you want, know who you don't want.

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Speaker 1: And I just appreciate you joining the im rap port

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Speaker 1: stereo podcasts and you know, giving me all these little

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Speaker 1: piece of the jewelry, these gold mines of fantasy football

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Speaker 1: jewels that I need, So I appreciate you. I'll definitely

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Speaker 1: be checking out all the shows, the links, the articles

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Speaker 1: throughout the season because it's championship time now, it's now

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Speaker 1: we're not here to play games, We're not here to

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Speaker 1: hold hands.

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Speaker 2: It's championship Fantasy football time.

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Speaker 3: I hope you win your league this year. Hopefully with

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Speaker 3: the help of football guys, we can get you there.

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Speaker 3: But yeah, man, fantasy football is fun. Unbelievable that the

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Speaker 3: season is so close, Like we said, it just kind

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Speaker 3: of snuck up on us. But best time of the year, man,

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Speaker 3: just seventeen weeks of football. Eighteen weeks of football now,

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Speaker 3: I'm sorry playoffs. I mean, it's a good way to

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Speaker 3: spend the winter.

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Speaker 1: All right, Dave, I appreciate it. I appreciate you joining

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Speaker 1: the podcast, and I'll talk to you soon, my man.

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Speaker 3: Thank you, appreciate it.

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Speaker 1: Mike, I want to thank Dave Kloogi one more time.

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Speaker 1: Football guys, Fantasy Football show for all the diamonds, all

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Speaker 1: the gold, all the jewels. Are you ready for some football?

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Speaker 1: Are you ready for some fantasy football? It's the greatest

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Speaker 1: time of the year. Great episode, Share it with a friend,

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Speaker 1: Dominate your draft, know your guys, get your guys, know who.

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Speaker 2: You want and know who you don't want. Miles Jordan

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Speaker 1: Take me at it with something real nice, take me

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Speaker 2: Am rapports the real podcast. I'm out