WEBVTT - Talkin' Cowboys: Who Will Shine In SF? 0:00:04.240 --> 0:00:06.800 The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 0:00:06.840 --> 0:00:17.320 and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. This this he's Talking 0:00:17.480 --> 0:00:29.920 Cowboys training live from Dallas Cowboys training camp in Hawksnard, California. 0:00:30.400 --> 0:00:36.159 Here are Mickey Spagnola, Brian Broms, Rob Phillips, and Bill Jones. 0:00:37.000 --> 0:00:42.000 And welcome to Talking Cowboys from Oxnard, California. Happy Friday 0:00:42.000 --> 0:00:45.600 to everybody if you're wrapping up the week with us. 0:00:45.960 --> 0:00:49.839 We've got one more show this week and before the 0:00:49.880 --> 0:00:53.000 Cowboys finally get a preseason game in, let's see what 0:00:53.000 --> 0:00:55.880 all these practices are paying off for Levin practices in. 0:00:56.960 --> 0:01:00.160 Got one more in yesterday and they're heading out San 0:01:00.160 --> 0:01:03.680 Francisco to day, and so are we. Rob Phillips, Mickey's bag, Nola, 0:01:03.720 --> 0:01:07.720 Brian brought us a glorious morning here at Oxnard. Is 0:01:07.760 --> 0:01:11.000 there any other morning? Well, the sun was shining this morning. 0:01:11.240 --> 0:01:14.880 Ye six o'clock. It's shining through those trees behind us. Yeah, 0:01:14.880 --> 0:01:17.840 it's always glorious. That lights up the practice field. Let's 0:01:17.840 --> 0:01:21.360 not fool ourselves. Cannot beat it. Did you bring your 0:01:21.360 --> 0:01:23.720 bike out here? This you did? Yeah? I've gotten away 0:01:23.800 --> 0:01:26.959 once so far, but we got a few days left. 0:01:27.000 --> 0:01:29.120 Maybe on Sunday when we get back. After we get back, 0:01:29.160 --> 0:01:34.320 if I'm not like sleeping all day, yeah, it's gonna 0:01:34.319 --> 0:01:36.800 be it's gonna be a long time. As figure you're 0:01:36.800 --> 0:01:39.759 gonna get back. Well, if the game is over at 0:01:39.920 --> 0:01:43.920 nine thirty Pacific, we staying right for an hour and 0:01:43.959 --> 0:01:47.360 a half generally, and then what about another five hours back? 0:01:47.440 --> 0:01:50.120 So yeah, we're hopping the broad at sled hopping the 0:01:50.160 --> 0:01:54.120 sled and head we head. I'm I'm leaving tomorrow tomorrow morning, 0:01:54.280 --> 0:01:55.920 and like we talked about, so i'll be back. We'll 0:01:55.960 --> 0:01:58.560 be a fight in the morning. Yeah, nothing wrong with that. 0:01:58.560 --> 0:02:00.560 It'd be good. It'll be good. So what time do 0:02:00.560 --> 0:02:02.280 you say the game was over? I think the game 0:02:02.320 --> 0:02:04.960 the game starts at six, specifics be done by nine, 0:02:06.360 --> 0:02:09.639 so our bus should leave by ten. Look at think 0:02:09.680 --> 0:02:11.480 you already kind of planned his exit. You got it 0:02:11.520 --> 0:02:15.720 ready on the bus five hours. Yeah, yeah, it'll be 0:02:15.760 --> 0:02:18.560 fine before that though, Before that, we got some football 0:02:18.560 --> 0:02:20.120 to watch. We do have some football to watch, you 0:02:20.200 --> 0:02:26.120 guys clean anything from yesterday's practice or um, you know, 0:02:26.160 --> 0:02:28.880 the cards stuff, anything about what you might see on 0:02:28.880 --> 0:02:30.480 on Saturday. I don't know what. My one of my 0:02:30.520 --> 0:02:33.680 favorite practices is is when they do that walk through, 0:02:34.320 --> 0:02:38.399 the walkthrough in the afternoon, situational, situational one. I love 0:02:38.520 --> 0:02:42.560 situational football, and so I know this is it's kind 0:02:42.600 --> 0:02:45.919 of it's what they do on Saturdays before the games, 0:02:45.960 --> 0:02:48.560 and we never get to see that. So you get 0:02:48.600 --> 0:02:51.560 to see a different side of the coaching staff and 0:02:52.080 --> 0:02:55.240 how they line guys up and how they go through 0:02:55.360 --> 0:02:59.640 situations of whether it's the into the half, into the 0:02:59.720 --> 0:03:02.640 game game, you know, coach those guys up. Hey, what 0:03:02.680 --> 0:03:04.360 are you supposed to do? What are you supposed to do? 0:03:04.560 --> 0:03:07.520 I thought that was really good yesterday with Jason Garrett 0:03:07.560 --> 0:03:11.280 going through each individual player on the on the on 0:03:11.320 --> 0:03:14.240 the final play of the game type thing, a jump 0:03:14.280 --> 0:03:17.160 ball tail mary, whatever you want to call it, and 0:03:17.360 --> 0:03:19.600 he going with going through with each player and Okay, 0:03:19.639 --> 0:03:22.920 what's your job, what's your job? What's your job? You know? 0:03:23.080 --> 0:03:25.720 And it's funny because the veteran guys can just snap 0:03:25.760 --> 0:03:28.320 it off and then they do the twos and then 0:03:28.360 --> 0:03:31.919 you're thinking, Okay, this is where disaster potentially get happened 0:03:32.000 --> 0:03:36.040 in this game. Cody, do you tipp it? Are you 0:03:36.080 --> 0:03:38.440 gonna tip it? Cody? Are you gonna tip it? And 0:03:38.520 --> 0:03:40.560 he'd already told him I'm supposed to catch him, so 0:03:40.720 --> 0:03:42.920 he's trying to trip him up, and the kids started 0:03:43.000 --> 0:03:45.440 doubting himself, like what are he was supposed to do? Yeah, 0:03:45.680 --> 0:03:47.240 So I thought that was really cool that they go 0:03:47.320 --> 0:03:50.200 through all that, how to get into the hurry hurry field, 0:03:50.200 --> 0:03:53.320 goals into the game, pitching it around, how to set 0:03:53.360 --> 0:03:56.080 up blockers, get him to the sidelines, you know. I 0:03:56.080 --> 0:03:58.839 mean that that to me is that part of the game. 0:03:58.880 --> 0:04:01.440 And when you see it actually happened when you see 0:04:01.760 --> 0:04:04.480 a Caliver Stanford and they're pitching the ball all over 0:04:04.560 --> 0:04:07.200 the place in that game they score to win, or 0:04:07.320 --> 0:04:09.640 what happened in New England that the New England Miami 0:04:09.680 --> 0:04:11.800 game last year was a pitch it around and win. 0:04:12.000 --> 0:04:14.320 The band's out on the field exactly. So I mean 0:04:14.360 --> 0:04:17.039 that's the kind of stuff that I really like to 0:04:17.120 --> 0:04:20.560 watch with practice well, and there's there's no music, there's 0:04:20.600 --> 0:04:23.480 no fans. We can't write about it, but but it's 0:04:23.839 --> 0:04:26.600 you can really hear them teaching out. Yeah. Actually is 0:04:26.640 --> 0:04:28.640 really good. It's an environment that we don't normally get 0:04:28.680 --> 0:04:31.000 to see. Absolutely, and that's what I like about it 0:04:31.040 --> 0:04:33.320 is because it is the actual I can't remember I 0:04:33.360 --> 0:04:36.320 can't tell you how many times watching like Parcels do this. 0:04:36.839 --> 0:04:38.719 And then we go back in the Monday night game 0:04:38.720 --> 0:04:40.960 against the Giants where Billy Kindiff, I think we kicked 0:04:40.960 --> 0:04:42.800 six field goals or something like that to win that game. 0:04:42.800 --> 0:04:44.560 Mickey was something like that. But they had to get that. 0:04:44.640 --> 0:04:46.960 They had to get Yeah, they had that last pass 0:04:47.120 --> 0:04:48.960 off in order to get him a chance to kick 0:04:49.000 --> 0:04:51.080 the field. And that's stuff that Parcels used to work 0:04:51.120 --> 0:04:53.839 on all the time. Or killing the clock, throwing the 0:04:53.839 --> 0:04:55.520 ball all the way, you know, thought as high as 0:04:55.560 --> 0:04:58.000 you can and throw it out of bounce to run 0:04:58.000 --> 0:05:00.920 the clock out. You know, those are situations that you know, 0:05:00.960 --> 0:05:02.880 you get into a game and fans are like going, 0:05:02.920 --> 0:05:05.320 well why do they blow that? But that's stuff they 0:05:05.400 --> 0:05:08.039 practice and I got something out of that. I think 0:05:08.080 --> 0:05:09.840 that we got that these guys are gonna play for 0:05:10.000 --> 0:05:12.000 They're gonna play. They're gonna play some guys. I mean, 0:05:12.000 --> 0:05:13.359 this is not gonna be one of those things like 0:05:13.440 --> 0:05:15.600 last night I was watching the early of the the 0:05:15.680 --> 0:05:20.560 Chargers uh Arizona game. Philip Rivers is not the quarterback, 0:05:20.640 --> 0:05:22.800 you know, and that kind of stuff. So I think 0:05:22.800 --> 0:05:25.280 you're gonna see the first teamers for at least the series. 0:05:25.360 --> 0:05:27.360 At least the series. Yeah, so that's good because that's 0:05:27.400 --> 0:05:29.599 the way they kind of practiced it. So they sure did. 0:05:29.839 --> 0:05:33.080 Sure to see. Yeah, I remember the first time Parcels 0:05:33.120 --> 0:05:36.320 when we were in San Antonio. He was practicing h 0:05:36.520 --> 0:05:39.400 ending the game by throwing the ball high and out 0:05:39.400 --> 0:05:43.960 of Barty and so port Quincy Carter was doing it, 0:05:44.279 --> 0:05:46.839 and the fans all started booing like he was so 0:05:46.880 --> 0:05:51.800 far off, he's missing the target badly there, But no, 0:05:51.880 --> 0:05:54.960 it's no, it was. It was good and I enjoyed 0:05:55.040 --> 0:05:59.159 the uh. And so Jason doesn't just do it to 0:05:59.240 --> 0:06:01.200 do it. He was a pready fired up. He was 0:06:01.279 --> 0:06:05.240 adamant of He had a sheet the the hell Mary 0:06:05.480 --> 0:06:08.920 on what each guy offense and defense was supposed to do. 0:06:09.000 --> 0:06:11.680 How you're supposed to block out, which way you're supposed 0:06:11.720 --> 0:06:14.520 to face. Hey, if you're blocking out in basketball, which 0:06:14.520 --> 0:06:17.120 way you're facing are facing the goal or you're facing 0:06:17.160 --> 0:06:20.200 the guy? No, you're facing the goal. And so yeah, 0:06:20.240 --> 0:06:22.600 that was he had a he had a whole sheet 0:06:22.640 --> 0:06:24.640 of things, you know, he putting him at a certain 0:06:24.720 --> 0:06:27.679 yard markers at certain you know, and and and saying okay, 0:06:27.800 --> 0:06:30.320 here's the situation. You got seven seconds left, we need 0:06:30.320 --> 0:06:33.000 three more yards five seconds left. Okay, that's what you 0:06:33.040 --> 0:06:34.760 have to do. Okay, made they made a field goal. 0:06:34.839 --> 0:06:38.120 You know, I mean, all kinds of things were going through. 0:06:38.200 --> 0:06:41.360 And again I appreciate, I appreciate the back and forth 0:06:41.400 --> 0:06:44.160 with football that way, the strategy, how to kill a game, 0:06:44.440 --> 0:06:46.480 how to run the last four minutes off the off 0:06:46.480 --> 0:06:48.640 the clock to win a game. You know, all those 0:06:48.680 --> 0:06:51.919 things are just fascinating to me. The way coaches do 0:06:52.040 --> 0:06:53.440 get to work out. And we got to see that 0:06:53.440 --> 0:06:55.320 a little bit, yes, and and hopefully we'll get to 0:06:55.320 --> 0:06:57.400 see some of that stuff play out where he could 0:06:57.480 --> 0:06:59.120 use that as a teaching moment in some of these 0:06:59.120 --> 0:07:02.200 preseason games as well, where if it works, great, If 0:07:02.200 --> 0:07:04.479 it doesn't work, then you could It doesn't cost you 0:07:04.800 --> 0:07:07.320 anything major, but you learn from it. And then when 0:07:07.360 --> 0:07:09.520 they had the pads on in the morning practice, they 0:07:09.560 --> 0:07:13.360 did some similar stuff, meaning we got the ball at 0:07:13.200 --> 0:07:16.760 the defense was twenty five yard line, you gotta go in, right, 0:07:16.800 --> 0:07:18.600 you got it at the ten yard line, you gotta 0:07:18.640 --> 0:07:21.200 go in, play it out, kick a field goal if right, 0:07:21.320 --> 0:07:24.000 if you if you don't, or you got you got 0:07:24.000 --> 0:07:26.000 a punt or coming out from the one yard. Yeah, 0:07:26.040 --> 0:07:28.000 you got the ball right inside your own one Yeah, 0:07:28.080 --> 0:07:29.680 what do you do? So that was good. That was 0:07:29.760 --> 0:07:31.400 that was that was good stuff. But I think the 0:07:31.920 --> 0:07:34.280 if if we can use how they practice as the 0:07:34.320 --> 0:07:38.400 barometer for who's gonna play on Saturday against the Niners. 0:07:38.680 --> 0:07:40.720 I think those first teamers are going to go. And 0:07:40.840 --> 0:07:43.480 last year they did. I think it was like eight 0:07:43.560 --> 0:07:46.200 or ten snaps last year, right at ten plays. So 0:07:46.840 --> 0:07:50.040 take Yeah, it'd be good to see Travis Frederick out there. Absolutely, 0:07:50.080 --> 0:07:52.440 they let him go to get back in a game 0:07:53.480 --> 0:07:57.440 first time in the year. Uh, the backup quarterbacks get 0:07:57.440 --> 0:07:59.600 to play in a game for the first time in 0:07:59.600 --> 0:08:02.640 a year. Think about that. You know, those poor guys, 0:08:02.880 --> 0:08:06.080 and I understand the plight of the backup quarterback, but 0:08:06.440 --> 0:08:09.160 they don't get to play. They go a whole year 0:08:09.280 --> 0:08:12.120 without playing a football game, and then everybody expecting to 0:08:12.160 --> 0:08:14.960 come out and act like, oh, well, they're polished. You know, 0:08:15.040 --> 0:08:19.000 it's difficult. Mental reps are great, but until you get 0:08:19.000 --> 0:08:21.200 out there and see the confusion in front of you, 0:08:22.280 --> 0:08:25.640 it's not easy. And you know, they don't get any 0:08:25.760 --> 0:08:30.200 snaps basically in practice other than the practice squad scout team. 0:08:30.480 --> 0:08:34.240 So yeah, this will be good. Cooper Rush is pretty 0:08:34.240 --> 0:08:37.360 good in that game last year, that San Francisco preseason opener. 0:08:37.400 --> 0:08:39.800 I think his quarterback rating was like ninety seven, did 0:08:39.800 --> 0:08:43.960 a pretty good job, had a touchdown pass. How is 0:08:43.960 --> 0:08:47.040 Travis Frederick better yesterday? Yeah? You know, with Travis Frederick, 0:08:47.720 --> 0:08:49.319 I kind of say this is the way of him 0:08:49.440 --> 0:08:51.959 reteaching himself how to play football. It's it's funny to 0:08:52.000 --> 0:08:54.680 say at all pro we'd have to reteach himself. But 0:08:54.760 --> 0:08:58.320 there were things yesterday. He is he's always so mentally 0:08:58.360 --> 0:09:00.520 sharp and what's going on in front of him, but 0:09:00.720 --> 0:09:03.720 he's he's found back to where he's able to position 0:09:03.800 --> 0:09:06.360 himself when he's uncovered, meaning he has nobody in front 0:09:06.360 --> 0:09:07.920 of him, and all of a sudden they read double 0:09:07.960 --> 0:09:10.559 twist in front and now guys are sorting and passing 0:09:10.600 --> 0:09:13.840 and all that. And for Prescott to get the ball out, 0:09:14.320 --> 0:09:17.240 he picked the right side to give Dak the best 0:09:17.320 --> 0:09:20.160 avenue to get the ball out. He took the right 0:09:20.240 --> 0:09:23.480 guy to on the on the twist stunt. There he 0:09:23.520 --> 0:09:26.480 got Door's armstrong coming all the way around, and Travis 0:09:26.520 --> 0:09:28.240 was sitting wait and wait and wait and boom, he's 0:09:28.240 --> 0:09:31.240 over there now firm pocket balls where it needs to be. 0:09:31.600 --> 0:09:33.640 That was to play excusing, it was to it was 0:09:33.640 --> 0:09:35.920 to uh, it was to play coming off the goal 0:09:36.000 --> 0:09:38.120 line here, and it was to Tavon Austin where he 0:09:38.120 --> 0:09:40.320 had to dive and catch the ball. But that's the 0:09:40.400 --> 0:09:42.680 kind of stuff. You know, if Travis goes the other way, 0:09:42.880 --> 0:09:45.200 maybe that ball doesn't get off and stuff like that. 0:09:45.280 --> 0:09:49.120 So but you're seeing that smart Travis Frederick that step up, 0:09:49.400 --> 0:09:52.320 be that physical guy and do the things that we've 0:09:52.320 --> 0:09:55.320 seen him do in games. I like what I just 0:09:55.360 --> 0:09:57.640 think he's I think he's getting a better feel, getting 0:09:57.679 --> 0:09:59.840 himself back to like, Okay, I used to do this, 0:10:00.080 --> 0:10:01.720 I used to do this, I used to do this, 0:10:01.800 --> 0:10:04.679 and he's having a little success doing that. So hopefully 0:10:04.679 --> 0:10:06.079 in the game he'll have a little bit more of 0:10:06.120 --> 0:10:08.120 an opportunity and we'll see on the tape that those 0:10:08.160 --> 0:10:12.120 ten plays of him going out there and helping on 0:10:12.160 --> 0:10:15.000 those on those double team blocks, helping on the scoop blocks, 0:10:15.240 --> 0:10:17.680 getting the second level, maybe sneaking out on a screen, 0:10:18.000 --> 0:10:20.120 you know, those kinds of things that we've always grown 0:10:20.240 --> 0:10:22.440 very accustomed to seeing Travis Frederick be able to do. 0:10:22.520 --> 0:10:24.640 He had a better feel for where he had to go, 0:10:24.840 --> 0:10:28.439 especially about you know, rarely does the center have one 0:10:28.520 --> 0:10:31.079 on one rocks, but so you got to help out right, 0:10:31.160 --> 0:10:33.400 and when they were blitzing, he had a better feel 0:10:33.440 --> 0:10:35.280 for sure to help and who was going to pick 0:10:35.360 --> 0:10:37.840 up the blitz sure way yep. So yeah, that was 0:10:37.880 --> 0:10:41.920 a yeah. Anything that Travis Frederick doesn't look like he's 0:10:42.000 --> 0:10:44.160 in a revolving door, he's a good thing because he 0:10:44.800 --> 0:10:48.880 plays He plays with such with such balance, and then 0:10:48.920 --> 0:10:51.679 you watch him in athletic and it's it's like it's 0:10:51.720 --> 0:10:53.320 kind of coming back to him a little bit. Okay, 0:10:53.520 --> 0:10:55.000 I do this, this is what I used to do, 0:10:55.040 --> 0:10:57.680 This is how I handle it. So a game situation 0:10:57.720 --> 0:10:59.400 will be good for him. It really will be, because 0:10:59.440 --> 0:11:04.040 at first he was like he looked like he snapped 0:11:04.040 --> 0:11:06.120 the ball gets up and I saw all this stuff 0:11:06.160 --> 0:11:08.440 coming at him, and it it was like, yeah, where do 0:11:08.520 --> 0:11:10.880 I go? You ever seen a punching bag with sand 0:11:10.920 --> 0:11:12.600 in the bottom of it and it kind of hit 0:11:12.640 --> 0:11:14.400 it and it kind of moves it kind of. It's 0:11:14.400 --> 0:11:16.600 just it doesn't look very stable. He didn't look very 0:11:16.600 --> 0:11:19.280 stable as first couple of days, but the stability is 0:11:19.280 --> 0:11:22.200 coming back to his game and I think that's important well, 0:11:22.200 --> 0:11:24.600 and they always say when you're coming back off an injury, 0:11:24.679 --> 0:11:28.120 this was an illness. The illness. Yes, football movements are 0:11:28.200 --> 0:11:32.559 different than conditioning and training and things like that. It's 0:11:32.640 --> 0:11:35.080 one thing to be in the gym or out there 0:11:35.160 --> 0:11:37.640 running and being back in condition, but to actually be 0:11:37.720 --> 0:11:39.800 on the field and doing what you're required to do 0:11:39.840 --> 0:11:42.800 at your position, the pace of it, the speed of it, 0:11:43.200 --> 0:11:45.160 that's a different that's a different animal. I think he 0:11:45.200 --> 0:11:48.240 plays one of the most difficult positions for an offensive lineman. 0:11:48.280 --> 0:11:51.400 I think there's talented left tackles that comes natural to them, 0:11:51.920 --> 0:11:54.000 but I think centered the fact that you have to 0:11:54.559 --> 0:11:59.839 make calls a just snap block, help whatever. I mean, 0:12:00.120 --> 0:12:02.760 there's so many things that happen in a sequence of 0:12:02.760 --> 0:12:06.160 a play that a center has to deal with. Left tackles, 0:12:06.200 --> 0:12:08.280 right tackles. Cards generally just kind of deal with their man, 0:12:08.320 --> 0:12:10.680 deal with their man, deal with their man. Center. There's 0:12:10.720 --> 0:12:15.120 so many other moving parts that's involved, and he's one 0:12:15.160 --> 0:12:17.440 of the best of the league that that's ever done 0:12:17.440 --> 0:12:20.080 this as far as how he's played, and that's one 0:12:20.120 --> 0:12:23.440 reason you know he he's done a little bit of 0:12:23.440 --> 0:12:25.520 the one on one stuff, but he's kind of said 0:12:25.559 --> 0:12:28.720 at the center position. It's not really that necessary for 0:12:28.760 --> 0:12:30.400 me to get in there and have worked around all 0:12:30.440 --> 0:12:32.240 that kind of stuff because it's not necessary. I'm not 0:12:32.320 --> 0:12:35.480 really man on man every play with a guy. Yeah, 0:12:35.520 --> 0:12:37.880 that might be how Travis Frederick excuse me, how Zach 0:12:37.960 --> 0:12:40.080 Martin got a little dinged up with the back, you know, 0:12:40.200 --> 0:12:43.000 having a sit down on a guy and all. You know, yeah, 0:12:43.040 --> 0:12:46.760 it happens. It happens. Unfortunate though it be nice to have. Again, 0:12:46.880 --> 0:12:49.199 I keep going back to the to the Zach Martin's 0:12:49.280 --> 0:12:52.440 and then and then also to the Connor McGovern's. You know, 0:12:52.440 --> 0:12:55.400 I mean, I just wish Connor McGovern. This is I'm 0:12:55.400 --> 0:12:57.880 just beating a dead horse. I'm sorry, and I don't 0:12:57.880 --> 0:13:00.760 mean to say dead apologize, but but but it's it's 0:13:00.800 --> 0:13:03.960 just the thing with this, with this, this opportunity. Even 0:13:03.960 --> 0:13:07.200 if Connor McGovern was doing good bad, at least he's 0:13:07.200 --> 0:13:09.640 getting the work. He's getting the work, and he would 0:13:09.679 --> 0:13:11.800 have gotten more work. Yeah, and and I you know, 0:13:12.200 --> 0:13:15.760 no no offense to your Juwan Bushell, Betty, you know, Baty, 0:13:16.080 --> 0:13:17.840 no offense to you. You know you're coming in here, 0:13:17.840 --> 0:13:19.719 You're gonna have to play a football game. Hopefully he 0:13:19.760 --> 0:13:23.000 gets nobody hurt. But I mean that that should have 0:13:23.000 --> 0:13:26.560 been Connor McGovern's spot. Yeah, that should have been him 0:13:26.559 --> 0:13:29.640 out there playing every snap and playing the whole game 0:13:29.679 --> 0:13:32.560 and getting tough and going in there working with Joe Looney, 0:13:32.600 --> 0:13:35.440 I mean, Joe Looney's a backup guy, and Adam Redman 0:13:35.480 --> 0:13:37.720 and work with those other backup guys that you normally. 0:13:37.760 --> 0:13:40.000 Maybe you might find yourself in a game with those guys, 0:13:40.400 --> 0:13:42.880 you know. And that's that's kind of where I because 0:13:43.040 --> 0:13:45.960 it might be, like Mickey's talking about, he might not 0:13:46.040 --> 0:13:48.720 if he doesn't do anything this summer, he's not gonna 0:13:48.760 --> 0:13:52.640 get a rep until I mean a real rep until 0:13:52.920 --> 0:13:56.800 possibly twenty twenty, if you think about it. Because if 0:13:56.800 --> 0:13:58.599 he doesn't, I mean, if he goes on Sagoes on 0:13:58.679 --> 0:14:01.320 IR or something like that, or it doesn't, it sounds 0:14:01.360 --> 0:14:03.800 like when we get back to the Star he's gonna practice. 0:14:03.800 --> 0:14:05.480 He might be able to get going there we go. 0:14:05.559 --> 0:14:08.439 So that's a that's good, that's the case. Did him 0:14:08.520 --> 0:14:10.640 good for him? You would keep him on the fifty 0:14:10.679 --> 0:14:12.679 three there as long as he can do it and 0:14:13.040 --> 0:14:16.480 remain healthy. Yeah, Okay, As we looked to Saturday night, 0:14:16.520 --> 0:14:19.960 I was just thinking about this this morning. Tony Pollard's 0:14:19.960 --> 0:14:23.000 a fourth round pick. Yeah, but he's gonna have host 0:14:23.080 --> 0:14:27.800 Dak Prescott. That's right, right, Yeah, they have So I 0:14:27.920 --> 0:14:31.240 was no, Murray was third, he was third. He's gonna 0:14:31.240 --> 0:14:35.160 have first round spotlight on him Saturday night because of 0:14:35.200 --> 0:14:38.000 the guy who's not here, right, and this in the 0:14:38.040 --> 0:14:40.200 position that he's gonna play on Saturday night for however 0:14:40.280 --> 0:14:43.240 many snaps it's gonna be. Did did that? Did Number 0:14:43.240 --> 0:14:46.240 twenty one not play one snap in the preseason last year? 0:14:46.320 --> 0:14:50.440 Not one? Yeah? No, because here was some offensive line 0:14:50.480 --> 0:14:54.040 injuries right the play the rehearsal game. Yeah, I don't 0:14:54.080 --> 0:14:56.440 think that he gets played either, because yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, 0:14:56.480 --> 0:14:59.920 that's right. See, that's that's funny because to me, you know, 0:15:00.040 --> 0:15:01.800 everybody's like we talked about and see if we talked 0:15:01.840 --> 0:15:04.240 about it, maybe that's why Stephen Jones, Mickey and Rob 0:15:04.240 --> 0:15:06.800 are telling us that we get back to Dallas, then 0:15:06.840 --> 0:15:10.400 maybe these contracts will start to start to figure things out. 0:15:10.440 --> 0:15:13.000 Mickey's right about the guy missing money and all that 0:15:13.000 --> 0:15:15.760 that that's that's a big I don't I've said it 0:15:15.800 --> 0:15:18.880 all along. The guy's got money. But Mickey's right, you 0:15:18.960 --> 0:15:21.840 leave six figures on the table every Tuesday. That that 0:15:22.160 --> 0:15:24.400 adds up. That adds up. I don't care how much 0:15:24.400 --> 0:15:26.760 money you have. That adds up. But you know, maybe 0:15:26.760 --> 0:15:29.120 that's maybe that's what we're waiting for. The fact that 0:15:29.160 --> 0:15:30.800 he had didn't take I didn't know that he had 0:15:30.840 --> 0:15:33.960 not taken any snaps in the preseason, and and he 0:15:34.040 --> 0:15:37.680 probably didn't take any. He made up four during the season. 0:15:37.720 --> 0:15:39.280 I don't know. I'm not sure how many he took 0:15:39.320 --> 0:15:41.440 in twenty sixteen because I remember he was dealing with 0:15:41.480 --> 0:15:43.680 a hams hamstring, that's right. It was a lot of 0:15:43.720 --> 0:15:45.520 like we should never remember when he got off to 0:15:45.640 --> 0:15:48.480 his flow start. Everybody, Wow, he's not seeing things. His 0:15:48.640 --> 0:15:52.240 pace is too fast. He's not waiting. Um, so as 0:15:52.280 --> 0:15:54.840 long as he's working out, yeah you really. Yeah, If 0:15:54.880 --> 0:15:58.840 you total up his total preseason carries for three seasons 0:15:59.120 --> 0:16:01.040 and now four pbably count hi on your right hit, 0:16:01.160 --> 0:16:03.200 probably it's not a lot. Because his rookie year he 0:16:03.240 --> 0:16:07.120 had a little something that the Rams yeah Seattle, Yeah, 0:16:07.160 --> 0:16:09.280 and those vets in Seattle kind of knocked him around 0:16:09.280 --> 0:16:10.680 a little bit, and that was all the doing work 0:16:10.720 --> 0:16:14.440 he got, you know, I know he knocked them around. Okay, Mickey. 0:16:15.120 --> 0:16:17.320 Don't you remember him hitting the safety? It was a 0:16:17.320 --> 0:16:21.400 little both well. He flattened that guy, Cam Chancellor. Yeah, 0:16:21.480 --> 0:16:24.520 you know I think that to me, this is I 0:16:25.520 --> 0:16:28.000 to your point. I think you're talking about Pollard. Yes, 0:16:28.040 --> 0:16:31.720 and and I'm I'm excited about Pollard. I'm excited about 0:16:32.120 --> 0:16:36.080 what he's shown out here with the opportunities that he's had. 0:16:36.280 --> 0:16:39.680 He he doesn't look like to me that the game 0:16:39.800 --> 0:16:42.040 is too big for him. They've thrown him in first 0:16:42.040 --> 0:16:45.160 team reps. And I don't hear now maybe at night 0:16:45.200 --> 0:16:47.840 when they're in the meetings and stuff that, uh, you know, 0:16:47.920 --> 0:16:50.720 they're Gary Brown's having Well, I gotta correct you here, 0:16:50.720 --> 0:16:52.720 I gotta correct you here. I gotta correct me. But 0:16:52.800 --> 0:16:55.320 I don't see correction on the field. No, I don't 0:16:55.360 --> 0:16:58.720 see the I don't see Tony. No, Tony, you know, 0:16:58.760 --> 0:17:00.400 I don't see that with him. And a lot of 0:17:00.400 --> 0:17:02.880 times you'll see guys get corrected on the field that 0:17:02.960 --> 0:17:06.280 are young guys because they don't I mean, uh. Sanjay 0:17:06.359 --> 0:17:09.000 Law brought it up yesterday about Cedric Wilson. We've seen 0:17:09.040 --> 0:17:11.600 Cedric Wilson player. He says. The great thing about Cedric 0:17:11.640 --> 0:17:14.320 Wilson is and I don't mean to digress into something different, 0:17:14.480 --> 0:17:17.639 but Cedric Wilson is he said, Cedric Wilson might make 0:17:17.680 --> 0:17:19.960 a mistake one day, but he will not make the 0:17:20.000 --> 0:17:22.560 same mistake the next day. And maybe that's what we 0:17:22.680 --> 0:17:25.600 You know Pollard, he hasn't made those mistakes or he 0:17:25.640 --> 0:17:28.760 either either he gets corrected and doesn't make him again 0:17:28.840 --> 0:17:31.040 and done a better job in blitz pick up two, 0:17:31.280 --> 0:17:34.360 like knowing where to go and understanding, because I'm sure 0:17:34.400 --> 0:17:36.680 he didn't have to do that him, not at all. 0:17:37.000 --> 0:17:39.240 You know, how many times do they blitz in college 0:17:39.240 --> 0:17:42.520 anyway with the five wide all the time Central Florida 0:17:42.520 --> 0:17:47.080 and that that conference they will they will. Uh. And 0:17:47.119 --> 0:17:48.679 the other thing with Pollard is as much as they 0:17:48.680 --> 0:17:51.720 put on his plate too offensively special teams. To me, 0:17:51.800 --> 0:17:54.480 that's an indication that the coaching staff says, this is 0:17:54.480 --> 0:17:57.720 a sharp kid. Yeah, sharp rookie who can handle some 0:17:57.800 --> 0:18:01.680 of this stuff from a from a mental standpoint. Early on, yep, absolutely, 0:18:01.720 --> 0:18:03.920 all right, let's take our first break when we come back. 0:18:04.000 --> 0:18:07.159 We had some questions, questions on periscope. We got we 0:18:07.280 --> 0:18:11.480 got some news obviously of a suspension yesterday and what 0:18:11.520 --> 0:18:13.399 that means for the Cowboys. The first couple weeks at 0:18:13.400 --> 0:18:16.960 the season. Next on Talking Cowboys, or has been helping 0:18:17.000 --> 0:18:19.800 Cowboys fans see better since nineteen seventy two so they 0:18:19.800 --> 0:18:22.119 don't miss a moment on the field. 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