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Speaker 1: Cowboys training live from Dallas Cowboys training camp in Hawksnard, California.
Speaker 1: Here are Mickey Spagnola, Brian Broms, Rob Phillips, and Bill Jones.
Speaker 1: And welcome to Talking Cowboys from Oxnard, California. Happy Friday
Speaker 1: to everybody if you're wrapping up the week with us.
Speaker 1: We've got one more show this week and before the
Speaker 1: Cowboys finally get a preseason game in, let's see what
Speaker 1: all these practices are paying off for Levin practices in.
Speaker 1: Got one more in yesterday and they're heading out San
Speaker 1: Francisco to day, and so are we. Rob Phillips, Mickey's bag, Nola,
Speaker 1: Brian brought us a glorious morning here at Oxnard. Is
Speaker 1: there any other morning? Well, the sun was shining this morning.
Speaker 1: Ye six o'clock. It's shining through those trees behind us. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's always glorious. That lights up the practice field. Let's
Speaker 1: not fool ourselves. Cannot beat it. Did you bring your
Speaker 1: bike out here? This you did? Yeah? I've gotten away
Speaker 1: once so far, but we got a few days left.
Speaker 1: Maybe on Sunday when we get back. After we get back,
Speaker 1: if I'm not like sleeping all day, yeah, it's gonna
Speaker 1: be it's gonna be a long time. As figure you're
Speaker 1: gonna get back. Well, if the game is over at
Speaker 1: nine thirty Pacific, we staying right for an hour and
Speaker 1: a half generally, and then what about another five hours back?
Speaker 1: So yeah, we're hopping the broad at sled hopping the
Speaker 1: sled and head we head. I'm I'm leaving tomorrow tomorrow morning,
Speaker 1: and like we talked about, so i'll be back. We'll
Speaker 1: be a fight in the morning. Yeah, nothing wrong with that.
Speaker 1: It'd be good. It'll be good. So what time do
Speaker 1: you say the game was over? I think the game
Speaker 1: the game starts at six, specifics be done by nine,
Speaker 1: so our bus should leave by ten. Look at think
Speaker 1: you already kind of planned his exit. You got it
Speaker 1: ready on the bus five hours. Yeah, yeah, it'll be
Speaker 1: fine before that though, Before that, we got some football
Speaker 1: to watch. We do have some football to watch, you
Speaker 1: guys clean anything from yesterday's practice or um, you know,
Speaker 1: the cards stuff, anything about what you might see on
Speaker 1: on Saturday. I don't know what. My one of my
Speaker 1: favorite practices is is when they do that walk through,
Speaker 1: the walkthrough in the afternoon, situational, situational one. I love
Speaker 1: situational football, and so I know this is it's kind
Speaker 1: of it's what they do on Saturdays before the games,
Speaker 1: and we never get to see that. So you get
Speaker 1: to see a different side of the coaching staff and
Speaker 1: how they line guys up and how they go through
Speaker 1: situations of whether it's the into the half, into the
Speaker 1: game game, you know, coach those guys up. Hey, what
Speaker 1: are you supposed to do? What are you supposed to do?
Speaker 1: I thought that was really good yesterday with Jason Garrett
Speaker 1: going through each individual player on the on the on
Speaker 1: the final play of the game type thing, a jump
Speaker 1: ball tail mary, whatever you want to call it, and
Speaker 1: he going with going through with each player and Okay,
Speaker 1: what's your job, what's your job? What's your job? You know?
Speaker 1: And it's funny because the veteran guys can just snap
Speaker 1: it off and then they do the twos and then
Speaker 1: you're thinking, Okay, this is where disaster potentially get happened
Speaker 1: in this game. Cody, do you tipp it? Are you
Speaker 1: gonna tip it? Cody? Are you gonna tip it? And
Speaker 1: he'd already told him I'm supposed to catch him, so
Speaker 1: he's trying to trip him up, and the kids started
Speaker 1: doubting himself, like what are he was supposed to do? Yeah,
Speaker 1: So I thought that was really cool that they go
Speaker 1: through all that, how to get into the hurry hurry field,
Speaker 1: goals into the game, pitching it around, how to set
Speaker 1: up blockers, get him to the sidelines, you know. I
Speaker 1: mean that that to me is that part of the game.
Speaker 1: And when you see it actually happened when you see
Speaker 1: a Caliver Stanford and they're pitching the ball all over
Speaker 1: the place in that game they score to win, or
Speaker 1: what happened in New England that the New England Miami
Speaker 1: game last year was a pitch it around and win.
Speaker 1: The band's out on the field exactly. So I mean
Speaker 1: that's the kind of stuff that I really like to
Speaker 1: watch with practice well, and there's there's no music, there's
Speaker 1: no fans. We can't write about it, but but it's
Speaker 1: you can really hear them teaching out. Yeah. Actually is
Speaker 1: really good. It's an environment that we don't normally get
Speaker 1: to see. Absolutely, and that's what I like about it
Speaker 1: is because it is the actual I can't remember I
Speaker 1: can't tell you how many times watching like Parcels do this.
Speaker 1: And then we go back in the Monday night game
Speaker 1: against the Giants where Billy Kindiff, I think we kicked
Speaker 1: six field goals or something like that to win that game.
Speaker 1: Mickey was something like that. But they had to get that.
Speaker 1: They had to get Yeah, they had that last pass
Speaker 1: off in order to get him a chance to kick
Speaker 1: the field. And that's stuff that Parcels used to work
Speaker 1: on all the time. Or killing the clock, throwing the
Speaker 1: ball all the way, you know, thought as high as
Speaker 1: you can and throw it out of bounce to run
Speaker 1: the clock out. You know, those are situations that you know,
Speaker 1: you get into a game and fans are like going,
Speaker 1: well why do they blow that? But that's stuff they
Speaker 1: practice and I got something out of that. I think
Speaker 1: that we got that these guys are gonna play for
Speaker 1: They're gonna play. They're gonna play some guys. I mean,
Speaker 1: this is not gonna be one of those things like
Speaker 1: last night I was watching the early of the the
Speaker 1: Chargers uh Arizona game. Philip Rivers is not the quarterback,
Speaker 1: you know, and that kind of stuff. So I think
Speaker 1: you're gonna see the first teamers for at least the series.
Speaker 1: At least the series. Yeah, so that's good because that's
Speaker 1: the way they kind of practiced it. So they sure did.
Speaker 1: Sure to see. Yeah, I remember the first time Parcels
Speaker 1: when we were in San Antonio. He was practicing h
Speaker 1: ending the game by throwing the ball high and out
Speaker 1: of Barty and so port Quincy Carter was doing it,
Speaker 1: and the fans all started booing like he was so
Speaker 1: far off, he's missing the target badly there, But no,
Speaker 1: it's no, it was. It was good and I enjoyed
Speaker 1: the uh. And so Jason doesn't just do it to
Speaker 1: do it. He was a pready fired up. He was
Speaker 1: adamant of He had a sheet the the hell Mary
Speaker 1: on what each guy offense and defense was supposed to do.
Speaker 1: How you're supposed to block out, which way you're supposed
Speaker 1: to face. Hey, if you're blocking out in basketball, which
Speaker 1: way you're facing are facing the goal or you're facing
Speaker 1: the guy? No, you're facing the goal. And so yeah,
Speaker 1: that was he had a he had a whole sheet
Speaker 1: of things, you know, he putting him at a certain
Speaker 1: yard markers at certain you know, and and and saying okay,
Speaker 1: here's the situation. You got seven seconds left, we need
Speaker 1: three more yards five seconds left. Okay, that's what you
Speaker 1: have to do. Okay, made they made a field goal.
Speaker 1: You know, I mean, all kinds of things were going through.
Speaker 1: And again I appreciate, I appreciate the back and forth
Speaker 1: with football that way, the strategy, how to kill a game,
Speaker 1: how to run the last four minutes off the off
Speaker 1: the clock to win a game. You know, all those
Speaker 1: things are just fascinating to me. The way coaches do
Speaker 1: get to work out. And we got to see that
Speaker 1: a little bit, yes, and and hopefully we'll get to
Speaker 1: see some of that stuff play out where he could
Speaker 1: use that as a teaching moment in some of these
Speaker 1: preseason games as well, where if it works, great, If
Speaker 1: it doesn't work, then you could It doesn't cost you
Speaker 1: anything major, but you learn from it. And then when
Speaker 1: they had the pads on in the morning practice, they
Speaker 1: did some similar stuff, meaning we got the ball at
Speaker 1: the defense was twenty five yard line, you gotta go in, right,
Speaker 1: you got it at the ten yard line, you gotta
Speaker 1: go in, play it out, kick a field goal if right,
Speaker 1: if you if you don't, or you got you got
Speaker 1: a punt or coming out from the one yard. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you got the ball right inside your own one Yeah,
Speaker 1: what do you do? So that was good. That was
Speaker 1: that was that was good stuff. But I think the
Speaker 1: if if we can use how they practice as the
Speaker 1: barometer for who's gonna play on Saturday against the Niners.
Speaker 1: I think those first teamers are going to go. And
Speaker 1: last year they did. I think it was like eight
Speaker 1: or ten snaps last year, right at ten plays. So
Speaker 1: take Yeah, it'd be good to see Travis Frederick out there. Absolutely,
Speaker 1: they let him go to get back in a game
Speaker 1: first time in the year. Uh, the backup quarterbacks get
Speaker 1: to play in a game for the first time in
Speaker 1: a year. Think about that. You know, those poor guys,
Speaker 1: and I understand the plight of the backup quarterback, but
Speaker 1: they don't get to play. They go a whole year
Speaker 1: without playing a football game, and then everybody expecting to
Speaker 1: come out and act like, oh, well, they're polished. You know,
Speaker 1: it's difficult. Mental reps are great, but until you get
Speaker 1: out there and see the confusion in front of you,
Speaker 1: it's not easy. And you know, they don't get any
Speaker 1: snaps basically in practice other than the practice squad scout team.
Speaker 1: So yeah, this will be good. Cooper Rush is pretty
Speaker 1: good in that game last year, that San Francisco preseason opener.
Speaker 1: I think his quarterback rating was like ninety seven, did
Speaker 1: a pretty good job, had a touchdown pass. How is
Speaker 1: Travis Frederick better yesterday? Yeah? You know, with Travis Frederick,
Speaker 1: I kind of say this is the way of him
Speaker 1: reteaching himself how to play football. It's it's funny to
Speaker 1: say at all pro we'd have to reteach himself. But
Speaker 1: there were things yesterday. He is he's always so mentally
Speaker 1: sharp and what's going on in front of him, but
Speaker 1: he's he's found back to where he's able to position
Speaker 1: himself when he's uncovered, meaning he has nobody in front
Speaker 1: of him, and all of a sudden they read double
Speaker 1: twist in front and now guys are sorting and passing
Speaker 1: and all that. And for Prescott to get the ball out,
Speaker 1: he picked the right side to give Dak the best
Speaker 1: avenue to get the ball out. He took the right
Speaker 1: guy to on the on the twist stunt. There he
Speaker 1: got Door's armstrong coming all the way around, and Travis
Speaker 1: was sitting wait and wait and wait and boom, he's
Speaker 1: over there now firm pocket balls where it needs to be.
Speaker 1: That was to play excusing, it was to it was
Speaker 1: to uh, it was to play coming off the goal
Speaker 1: line here, and it was to Tavon Austin where he
Speaker 1: had to dive and catch the ball. But that's the
Speaker 1: kind of stuff. You know, if Travis goes the other way,
Speaker 1: maybe that ball doesn't get off and stuff like that.
Speaker 1: So but you're seeing that smart Travis Frederick that step up,
Speaker 1: be that physical guy and do the things that we've
Speaker 1: seen him do in games. I like what I just
Speaker 1: think he's I think he's getting a better feel, getting
Speaker 1: himself back to like, Okay, I used to do this,
Speaker 1: I used to do this, I used to do this,
Speaker 1: and he's having a little success doing that. So hopefully
Speaker 1: in the game he'll have a little bit more of
Speaker 1: an opportunity and we'll see on the tape that those
Speaker 1: ten plays of him going out there and helping on
Speaker 1: those on those double team blocks, helping on the scoop blocks,
Speaker 1: getting the second level, maybe sneaking out on a screen,
Speaker 1: you know, those kinds of things that we've always grown
Speaker 1: very accustomed to seeing Travis Frederick be able to do.
Speaker 1: He had a better feel for where he had to go,
Speaker 1: especially about you know, rarely does the center have one
Speaker 1: on one rocks, but so you got to help out right,
Speaker 1: and when they were blitzing, he had a better feel
Speaker 1: for sure to help and who was going to pick
Speaker 1: up the blitz sure way yep. So yeah, that was
Speaker 1: a yeah. Anything that Travis Frederick doesn't look like he's
Speaker 1: in a revolving door, he's a good thing because he
Speaker 1: plays He plays with such with such balance, and then
Speaker 1: you watch him in athletic and it's it's like it's
Speaker 1: kind of coming back to him a little bit. Okay,
Speaker 1: I do this, this is what I used to do,
Speaker 1: This is how I handle it. So a game situation
Speaker 1: will be good for him. It really will be, because
Speaker 1: at first he was like he looked like he snapped
Speaker 1: the ball gets up and I saw all this stuff
Speaker 1: coming at him, and it it was like, yeah, where do
Speaker 1: I go? You ever seen a punching bag with sand
Speaker 1: in the bottom of it and it kind of hit
Speaker 1: it and it kind of moves it kind of. It's
Speaker 1: just it doesn't look very stable. He didn't look very
Speaker 1: stable as first couple of days, but the stability is
Speaker 1: coming back to his game and I think that's important well,
Speaker 1: and they always say when you're coming back off an injury,
Speaker 1: this was an illness. The illness. Yes, football movements are
Speaker 1: different than conditioning and training and things like that. It's
Speaker 1: one thing to be in the gym or out there
Speaker 1: running and being back in condition, but to actually be
Speaker 1: on the field and doing what you're required to do
Speaker 1: at your position, the pace of it, the speed of it,
Speaker 1: that's a different that's a different animal. I think he
Speaker 1: plays one of the most difficult positions for an offensive lineman.
Speaker 1: I think there's talented left tackles that comes natural to them,
Speaker 1: but I think centered the fact that you have to
Speaker 1: make calls a just snap block, help whatever. I mean,
Speaker 1: there's so many things that happen in a sequence of
Speaker 1: a play that a center has to deal with. Left tackles,
Speaker 1: right tackles. Cards generally just kind of deal with their man,
Speaker 1: deal with their man, deal with their man. Center. There's
Speaker 1: so many other moving parts that's involved, and he's one
Speaker 1: of the best of the league that that's ever done
Speaker 1: this as far as how he's played, and that's one
Speaker 1: reason you know he he's done a little bit of
Speaker 1: the one on one stuff, but he's kind of said
Speaker 1: at the center position. It's not really that necessary for
Speaker 1: me to get in there and have worked around all
Speaker 1: that kind of stuff because it's not necessary. I'm not
Speaker 1: really man on man every play with a guy. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that might be how Travis Frederick excuse me, how Zach
Speaker 1: Martin got a little dinged up with the back, you know,
Speaker 1: having a sit down on a guy and all. You know, yeah,
Speaker 1: it happens. It happens. Unfortunate though it be nice to have. Again,
Speaker 1: I keep going back to the to the Zach Martin's
Speaker 1: and then and then also to the Connor McGovern's. You know,
Speaker 1: I mean, I just wish Connor McGovern. This is I'm
Speaker 1: just beating a dead horse. I'm sorry, and I don't
Speaker 1: mean to say dead apologize, but but but it's it's
Speaker 1: just the thing with this, with this, this opportunity. Even
Speaker 1: if Connor McGovern was doing good bad, at least he's
Speaker 1: getting the work. He's getting the work, and he would
Speaker 1: have gotten more work. Yeah, and and I you know,
Speaker 1: no no offense to your Juwan Bushell, Betty, you know, Baty,
Speaker 1: no offense to you. You know you're coming in here,
Speaker 1: You're gonna have to play a football game. Hopefully he
Speaker 1: gets nobody hurt. But I mean that that should have
Speaker 1: been Connor McGovern's spot. Yeah, that should have been him
Speaker 1: out there playing every snap and playing the whole game
Speaker 1: and getting tough and going in there working with Joe Looney,
Speaker 1: I mean, Joe Looney's a backup guy, and Adam Redman
Speaker 1: and work with those other backup guys that you normally.
Speaker 1: Maybe you might find yourself in a game with those guys,
Speaker 1: you know. And that's that's kind of where I because
Speaker 1: it might be, like Mickey's talking about, he might not
Speaker 1: if he doesn't do anything this summer, he's not gonna
Speaker 1: get a rep until I mean a real rep until
Speaker 1: possibly twenty twenty, if you think about it. Because if
Speaker 1: he doesn't, I mean, if he goes on Sagoes on
Speaker 1: IR or something like that, or it doesn't, it sounds
Speaker 1: like when we get back to the Star he's gonna practice.
Speaker 1: He might be able to get going there we go.
Speaker 1: So that's a that's good, that's the case. Did him
Speaker 1: good for him? You would keep him on the fifty
Speaker 1: three there as long as he can do it and
Speaker 1: remain healthy. Yeah, Okay, As we looked to Saturday night,
Speaker 1: I was just thinking about this this morning. Tony Pollard's
Speaker 1: a fourth round pick. Yeah, but he's gonna have host
Speaker 1: Dak Prescott. That's right, right, Yeah, they have So I
Speaker 1: was no, Murray was third, he was third. He's gonna
Speaker 1: have first round spotlight on him Saturday night because of
Speaker 1: the guy who's not here, right, and this in the
Speaker 1: position that he's gonna play on Saturday night for however
Speaker 1: many snaps it's gonna be. Did did that? Did Number
Speaker 1: twenty one not play one snap in the preseason last year?
Speaker 1: Not one? Yeah? No, because here was some offensive line
Speaker 1: injuries right the play the rehearsal game. Yeah, I don't
Speaker 1: think that he gets played either, because yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: that's right. See, that's that's funny because to me, you know,
Speaker 1: everybody's like we talked about and see if we talked
Speaker 1: about it, maybe that's why Stephen Jones, Mickey and Rob
Speaker 1: are telling us that we get back to Dallas, then
Speaker 1: maybe these contracts will start to start to figure things out.
Speaker 1: Mickey's right about the guy missing money and all that
Speaker 1: that that's that's a big I don't I've said it
Speaker 1: all along. The guy's got money. But Mickey's right, you
Speaker 1: leave six figures on the table every Tuesday. That that
Speaker 1: adds up. That adds up. I don't care how much
Speaker 1: money you have. That adds up. But you know, maybe
Speaker 1: that's maybe that's what we're waiting for. The fact that
Speaker 1: he had didn't take I didn't know that he had
Speaker 1: not taken any snaps in the preseason, and and he
Speaker 1: probably didn't take any. He made up four during the season.
Speaker 1: I don't know. I'm not sure how many he took
Speaker 1: in twenty sixteen because I remember he was dealing with
Speaker 1: a hams hamstring, that's right. It was a lot of
Speaker 1: like we should never remember when he got off to
Speaker 1: his flow start. Everybody, Wow, he's not seeing things. His
Speaker 1: pace is too fast. He's not waiting. Um, so as
Speaker 1: long as he's working out, yeah you really. Yeah, If
Speaker 1: you total up his total preseason carries for three seasons
Speaker 1: and now four pbably count hi on your right hit,
Speaker 1: probably it's not a lot. Because his rookie year he
Speaker 1: had a little something that the Rams yeah Seattle, Yeah,
Speaker 1: and those vets in Seattle kind of knocked him around
Speaker 1: a little bit, and that was all the doing work
Speaker 1: he got, you know, I know he knocked them around. Okay, Mickey.
Speaker 1: Don't you remember him hitting the safety? It was a
Speaker 1: little both well. He flattened that guy, Cam Chancellor. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know I think that to me, this is I
Speaker 1: to your point. I think you're talking about Pollard. Yes,
Speaker 1: and and I'm I'm excited about Pollard. I'm excited about
Speaker 1: what he's shown out here with the opportunities that he's had.
Speaker 1: He he doesn't look like to me that the game
Speaker 1: is too big for him. They've thrown him in first
Speaker 1: team reps. And I don't hear now maybe at night
Speaker 1: when they're in the meetings and stuff that, uh, you know,
Speaker 1: they're Gary Brown's having Well, I gotta correct you here,
Speaker 1: I gotta correct you here. I gotta correct me. But
Speaker 1: I don't see correction on the field. No, I don't
Speaker 1: see the I don't see Tony. No, Tony, you know,
Speaker 1: I don't see that with him. And a lot of
Speaker 1: times you'll see guys get corrected on the field that
Speaker 1: are young guys because they don't I mean, uh. Sanjay
Speaker 1: Law brought it up yesterday about Cedric Wilson. We've seen
Speaker 1: Cedric Wilson player. He says. The great thing about Cedric
Speaker 1: Wilson is and I don't mean to digress into something different,
Speaker 1: but Cedric Wilson is he said, Cedric Wilson might make
Speaker 1: a mistake one day, but he will not make the
Speaker 1: same mistake the next day. And maybe that's what we
Speaker 1: You know Pollard, he hasn't made those mistakes or he
Speaker 1: either either he gets corrected and doesn't make him again
Speaker 1: and done a better job in blitz pick up two,
Speaker 1: like knowing where to go and understanding, because I'm sure
Speaker 1: he didn't have to do that him, not at all.
Speaker 1: You know, how many times do they blitz in college
Speaker 1: anyway with the five wide all the time Central Florida
Speaker 1: and that that conference they will they will. Uh. And
Speaker 1: the other thing with Pollard is as much as they
Speaker 1: put on his plate too offensively special teams. To me,
Speaker 1: that's an indication that the coaching staff says, this is
Speaker 1: a sharp kid. Yeah, sharp rookie who can handle some
Speaker 1: of this stuff from a from a mental standpoint. Early on, yep, absolutely,
Speaker 1: all right, let's take our first break when we come back.
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Speaker 1: something to do. Welcome to the twenty nineteen. There you go.
Speaker 1: I'm the same way. Good about Hey, check it out.
Speaker 1: So get to the elephant in the room. Oh go ahead?
Speaker 1: Oh is that why you were grumpy the first segment
Speaker 1: because you thought we should get to the news quicker?
Speaker 1: I thought we buried the lead. Yes, I don't think
Speaker 1: we did, because it is what it is. Everybody knows
Speaker 1: he's suspended to this. Yeah, but we gotta deal with it. Well,
Speaker 1: let's deal with it now. Mickey's gonna deal with it
Speaker 1: for two minutes. He's gonna yell at the commissioner and
Speaker 1: then we'll move on. See, yeah, I don't, I don't.
Speaker 1: I needed to wake up before you didn't need didn't
Speaker 1: mean mickey violence to start your show? Did you not
Speaker 1: think this thing was shaky? Mickey, anything to do? I
Speaker 1: told you this a long time ago. If you put
Speaker 1: your fate in that commissioner's hands or that office's hands,
Speaker 1: something bad is going to happen to you every single time.
Speaker 1: Go ahead, because Robert Robert Quinn suspension. If we shut
Speaker 1: it up, then all right, ahead two games for violating
Speaker 1: the NFL's policy on performance enhancing substance, which normally is
Speaker 1: an automatic four games pensioned by the way, right, and
Speaker 1: so it's go ahead. Yeah, And his agent right after
Speaker 1: the announcement sent out a very like, within a minute,
Speaker 1: emphatic defense of his client. So evidently they didn't believe
Speaker 1: all of it. They must have believed some of it.
Speaker 1: So when he was in high school, he had surgery
Speaker 1: to remove a benign tumor from his head, from his brain,
Speaker 1: and later on he started having seizures. Yeah, so he
Speaker 1: was taken medication to help prevent the seizures. A a a
Speaker 1: matter of fact, it said he had one. I think
Speaker 1: they were in Denver playing the game and he had one.
Speaker 1: They got rushed to the hospital. I think it was
Speaker 1: Denver anyway. So he's taken this medication. So the medication
Speaker 1: is approved. But when and again, the Cowboys traded for
Speaker 1: him on March twenty all right, he had the test
Speaker 1: that showed a positive for pro benicid on April second,
Speaker 1: So the Cowboys have no idea when they traded for
Speaker 1: him that this was going to happen. But everybody out
Speaker 1: there is trying to make an issue out of the Cowboys. Oh,
Speaker 1: here they go again. They got these characters and they
Speaker 1: can't prevent themselves from being suspended. And it's like they
Speaker 1: didn't know nothing about this when they traded for him,
Speaker 1: and the medical people wouldn't have known nothing about this
Speaker 1: because the test was April second, So he didn't just
Speaker 1: gobble down some of this stuff. Okay, backstory. Pro Probenecid
Speaker 1: is a drug for medicine to help control gout in people.
Speaker 1: And gout it hurts, and what happens is it lowers
Speaker 1: your uric acid from your kidneys. Take medicine for this
Speaker 1: every day every day because because it's the same thing
Speaker 1: that applies for kidney stones. And in the agent's explanation, uh, kieran,
Speaker 1: I forgot a sean h. He said that their medical
Speaker 1: expert that helped him investigate this said that that drug
Speaker 1: was used in the eighties and nineties to mask steroid yes, right,
Speaker 1: and that that the doctor h John Lombardo, who's the
Speaker 1: NFL doctor, basically pointed out that he hasn't seen that
Speaker 1: drug show up to mask steroids in quite some time. Sure, so,
Speaker 1: their investigation of their medical guys said that they found
Speaker 1: that the prescription that was filled at wherever the prescription
Speaker 1: was filled right before they filled that their history of
Speaker 1: of prescriptions filled showed that the prescription right before his
Speaker 1: for his seizures was for pro benecid, and they saying, okay,
Speaker 1: it must attainted that. Now somebody told me, well, how
Speaker 1: many times have you got a pertained prescription? Well, I
Speaker 1: don't know, because I probably didn't have to pee in
Speaker 1: a cup two days later, No question, right, you don't know.
Speaker 1: And the amount was so minuscule that their argument was
Speaker 1: it should have been a false positive, right that. And
Speaker 1: the analogy their medical guy gave them when they argued
Speaker 1: during the appeal was that if you had a thousand
Speaker 1: kernels of rice, the amount that showed up positive for
Speaker 1: probenecid was one kernel, So it was almost like if
Speaker 1: you were taking it right for a purpose, then you
Speaker 1: would have more than that. And if you were taking it,
Speaker 1: they should have been able to prove that he was
Speaker 1: getting a prescription for it right, because it's it's not
Speaker 1: an over the counter drug. You have to have a
Speaker 1: prescription for it. And their point was, no where in
Speaker 1: our history does he have a prescription for this. Yet
Speaker 1: the NFL kind of believed it, but not the entire
Speaker 1: way because it should have been a four game suspension
Speaker 1: for violation of performance enhanching drugs. Well, they gave him
Speaker 1: a two game suspension. Now he would have been ready
Speaker 1: for the start of the season, I'm told now. What
Speaker 1: he did was he fractured the third and fourth metacarpal
Speaker 1: on the back of his hand, his left hand, so
Speaker 1: the little bones right here, and they do surgery that
Speaker 1: they put a pin in there because the bone go
Speaker 1: feel it, your bone is there is real thin, so
Speaker 1: they can't set it in a cast, so they put
Speaker 1: a pin in there, surgically repaired, and they felt like
Speaker 1: he would be ready to go at the start of
Speaker 1: the season. Now, the difficult thing for him compared to
Speaker 1: when DeMarco Murray had it is Murray doesn't have to
Speaker 1: grab anybody. He just got to hold the ball. So
Speaker 1: remember he came back within a week or two as
Speaker 1: soon as the suitures healed. And so with him with Quinn,
Speaker 1: he's got to use his hands when he rushes and
Speaker 1: that that so the padding there's not going to do
Speaker 1: anything for him. So but they still felt like he
Speaker 1: would be ready, except for now. It's a two game,
Speaker 1: uh suspension, And that's why that's why Jason said, we
Speaker 1: support Robert Quinn, right, they understand it and we trust him,
Speaker 1: is what he said too. The Cowboys medical staff understands it.
Speaker 1: But when the thing comes out right away, it's okay,
Speaker 1: this is the seventeenth suspension. Why was why was that?
Speaker 1: Why was that an issue with this? This didn't fit this,
Speaker 1: This didn't fit Rolando McClain, It didn't fit Hardy or
Speaker 1: Randy Gregory. Yeah, and Jason said that in a very
Speaker 1: polite way. Every circumstance is different. You can't lump them
Speaker 1: all together. But and then and then why and then
Speaker 1: and then the stories in the last sentence. And one
Speaker 1: of the things I read is who's going to be next? Yeah,
Speaker 1: And it's like, it's not fair to Quinn in the
Speaker 1: first place, right, And it's not fair to the organization
Speaker 1: that had no idea any this is going on when
Speaker 1: they traded for him, because it hadn't happened yet. And
Speaker 1: that's what kind of irritates me. I just I don't
Speaker 1: care if you if you criticize him, fine if you
Speaker 1: want to be critical, critical, but get it right, get
Speaker 1: it right. I'm done. I knew we were going to
Speaker 1: get to the bottom of that store. I knew it.
Speaker 1: Soapbox Mick. So that's the other side of that pancake
Speaker 1: is now who takes over a defensive end? And that's
Speaker 1: a question. And by the way, that's the first question
Speaker 1: I pulled off periscope today. Let Zeke at let Zeke.
Speaker 1: I guess that's what Zeke's twitting you? Yeah? No, no,
Speaker 1: So what is it called periscoping? Pariscoping? Yeah? Okay, does
Speaker 1: Armstrong have a chance to start in week one? But
Speaker 1: that's Crawford, isn't it. Yeah? Isn't that Crawford over there? Well,
Speaker 1: unless taco time arrive, Taco time, it's been Taco time
Speaker 1: this week. Jason Garrett did say Tyron Crawford sounds like
Speaker 1: he could get back to practice when they get back
Speaker 1: home from Oxnard. He's been dealing with a hip, has
Speaker 1: been on active pop remains on there right now. Um yeah,
Speaker 1: I think he's your starting end opposite Lawrence, right yeah,
Speaker 1: because I think see Pete also asking is all right,
Speaker 1: do you lose a starter in Quinn? Whereas Quinn to me,
Speaker 1: Quinn was gonna back up or come in on and
Speaker 1: then they were gonna kick Crawford inside on some nickel rush.
Speaker 1: That's clear passing situation. Yeah, that's I thought. I didn't
Speaker 1: think that Quinn was going to be the starter when
Speaker 1: they brought him in. I thought he Now, I thought
Speaker 1: he would be the starter if something happen, if they
Speaker 1: didn't sign, if they didn't sign Lawrence, That's where I
Speaker 1: thought Quinn had a chance to start. I think they
Speaker 1: thought he was a starter. Okay, that's just me. No, No,
Speaker 1: if you ifrom what I heard what I said, If
Speaker 1: they think he's a startered then okay, now what does
Speaker 1: that do with Crawford? That's what I want to know.
Speaker 1: I think he's playing in instead of tackled. But okay,
Speaker 1: is he the backup end or when does he play?
Speaker 1: Because if you're playing Quinn is the starter, when would
Speaker 1: you play Crawford? Would you play? Because Crawford to me
Speaker 1: is not He's not the past rushing. Yeah, if you're
Speaker 1: talking about first and second down, I wouldn't play. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but remember, udn't play the run. I mean, I remember
Speaker 1: what they did last year he played. He started the
Speaker 1: first seven games at defensive tackle. When Malie Collins was
Speaker 1: trying to get no question, that's what I was saying.
Speaker 1: Then when they couldn't stop the run, yea, and it
Speaker 1: was obvious they couldn't stop the run, they kicked him
Speaker 1: out to right defensive end. Kind of settled things down
Speaker 1: over there, and then they rotated Randy Gregory and is
Speaker 1: the pass rusher. But by time we got to the
Speaker 1: end of the season, the playoffs, Gregory was starting. Speaking
Speaker 1: of Crawford, we out of the woods on a suspension
Speaker 1: for him for a game. I it's another day. Yeah,
Speaker 1: who knows what the end. I was gonna say, Well,
Speaker 1: he didn't get charged, so that man, Yeah that's true.
Speaker 1: But you know what, so that whole thing, you know,
Speaker 1: he was entered into a diversion program right on his
Speaker 1: own right. Uh, there were no charges. And you guys
Speaker 1: have been the clubs, bars, befare, especially those beach ones
Speaker 1: in Florida had a lot. That is his first mistake. Yeah,
Speaker 1: those bouncers are not the most ethical people. And I'm
Speaker 1: not casting the spursions. I didn't see it. I'm just
Speaker 1: saying the police didn't believe all that stuff. Right, have
Speaker 1: you seen bouncers? Mickey just called out every bouncer in
Speaker 1: South Florida. You don't think bouncers listen to this show.
Speaker 1: I hopefully, I hope they do. I hope they do.
Speaker 1: Just come, bouncers, Hey, anyway ahead, I'm sorry, I don't think.
Speaker 1: I don't think anything's going to happen. Okay, Right, the
Speaker 1: commissioner don't even have his hands full Foxburgh. There's still
Speaker 1: a month till the season. He spending a guy for
Speaker 1: two games for some stupid test. But I mean, I'm
Speaker 1: telling you, anytime you put in your your livelihood in
Speaker 1: his hands and disaster and you said it, unless you're
Speaker 1: Tarik Hill, charges don't have to exist right to be
Speaker 1: under the personal pond personal conduct umbrella. Does he have
Speaker 1: his hands full with the guy in Foxborough. Every everyone,
Speaker 1: I don't need to take care of that first. That's difficult.
Speaker 1: We all wish kind of were that team. We'd be
Speaker 1: in the super Bowl every year. Micky'd be like you'd
Speaker 1: you'd have covered fifty of the Super Bowls. Okay, anyway,
Speaker 1: so I'm gonna ask a question. I'm asking a question
Speaker 1: to the question back to the question why we kind
Speaker 1: of eased into this discussion. Now you gotta jump in.
Speaker 1: You did. And even if it's a belly fly and Mickey,
Speaker 1: we bury the lead on the show All Time High
Speaker 1: School Football, whether you name it. Anyway, we keep four
Speaker 1: running backs one fullback from which you we had to
Speaker 1: early talk about. We didn't finish with Dooran's Armstrong. No,
Speaker 1: did you say you said he was not gonna start. No,
Speaker 1: I'm just saying, I'm taco time. You said taco time.
Speaker 1: But he's got to prove it is with it. Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: this is this is his time. I mean, oh no,
Speaker 1: I'm with you. He's got to step up. Otherwise Armstrong
Speaker 1: gets that job. But Armstrong is gonna be started in
Speaker 1: the preseason on the strong side. Yeah, he's playing left side,
Speaker 1: playing behind yeah. Yeah, And so for now, Okay, we
Speaker 1: were going to the question was week one. No, we
Speaker 1: don't think he's starting week one. Lawrence is going to
Speaker 1: be ready to play. There we go. That's what I
Speaker 1: wanted to hear from you. I could probably play next
Speaker 1: week if they wanted him too. That's true too. Four
Speaker 1: running backs win fullback Rob Phillips, four running backs, Ums
Speaker 1: Webber showing you and that face saying I'm going three
Speaker 1: running backs and Jamay's because I guess you're only keeping
Speaker 1: three tight ends. Most likely right third running back. We
Speaker 1: had this discussion right over there during practice tight end
Speaker 1: un running back. At this point, I'm saying, it's Zeke
Speaker 1: Pollard Morris. But Morris doesn't play a lot of special
Speaker 1: teams at all, So that's trying. I mean, that is
Speaker 1: something to think about. Not so Zeke's gonna be here.
Speaker 1: I'm expecting that. Yes, yes, because Mickey on the Football
Speaker 1: Mickey told you how much money he makes a week,
Speaker 1: So he's going to listen to the show and figure
Speaker 1: out he needs to be here for that money. Zeke
Speaker 1: Pollard and Morris. If Zeke, if Zeke is here, is
Speaker 1: Morris here? That's what I'm saying. I kind of think
Speaker 1: it might could what about un That's what I'm thinking.
Speaker 1: What do you think Darius Jacksons? Jackson to me seems
Speaker 1: like he's kind of like they've given up on him. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he's he doesn't have snow tires on his car anymore.
Speaker 1: You know, he's he's driving in the snow without snow tires. It.
Speaker 1: But he'll probably probably make a play tomorrow night or two,
Speaker 1: somebody will pick. But he started, he started off, was fine.
Speaker 1: He doesn't look bad. But I think what happened was
Speaker 1: without Zeke here. Yeah, It's like, okay, now we got
Speaker 1: an opportunity because we know Pollard's play right, right, and
Speaker 1: let's get him some exposure for all the different things
Speaker 1: he's gonna do while we have the opportunity. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: and let's see what he can handle. Yeah, I don't
Speaker 1: you know, I don't know that he's gonna wear him
Speaker 1: out in preseason. But I mean he is bigger than
Speaker 1: you thought, isn't he? Yes? In the rookie camp, Yeah,
Speaker 1: because the Hawk was Oh, Mike Weber was the traditional
Speaker 1: back in college. Stand next to both of him, he's bigger.
Speaker 1: Who's the bigger man? Yeah? I just walked by him
Speaker 1: this morning after they finished their walkthrough and I was
Speaker 1: looking at him and I was like, who's that. I
Speaker 1: was thinking it was a defensive back or safety, and
Speaker 1: it was Pollard. Yeah. Yeah, he's he's he's he's a
Speaker 1: full six foot He's not Lance Dunbar. That was a
Speaker 1: false narrative coming out of Memphis. Yeah, Lance Dunbar was
Speaker 1: my size. Yeah. No, you're right about about the offense
Speaker 1: that he played in more than maybe you know what
Speaker 1: they used him, yeah, or what he may be capable
Speaker 1: of at the next level. Yeah, So I think they
Speaker 1: just want to see a lot of him, But I
Speaker 1: want to see Jordan chun if he you know, you guys,
Speaker 1: you guys are right. They have a couple of good
Speaker 1: young backs. I'm just talking about I mean right now
Speaker 1: in terms of experience. Yeah, I mean, Morris is getting
Speaker 1: second team. I just want to see him because anybody
Speaker 1: that can run for one hundred and ninety one yards
Speaker 1: in baton rouge, Nicky, you need to just shut up
Speaker 1: right now. Hey, I just you know he's but he's
Speaker 1: not wrong, Mickey, I know I saw every damn one
Speaker 1: of them. My gosh, congratulations Troy, you got a great victory. Hey,
Speaker 1: Chris wants to five guys to watch. But I'm gonna
Speaker 1: tell Chris as we're talking right now, we got a
Speaker 1: thing called two to watch and everybody involved has got
Speaker 1: two guys that they're gonna watch for the game, and
Speaker 1: we're writing about that. So that's going up today, right, Yeah,
Speaker 1: And why don't we say that we can answer that question.
Speaker 1: No'll be on the other side. We have to talk
Speaker 1: about some guys. Okay, see fair, they're good, Fair about good.
Speaker 1: We've already gotten done with another segment. We're almost there.
Speaker 1: You look it out. You went on like twenty seven minutes. Mine,
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Speaker 1: If you talk about going the power play Mickey or
Speaker 1: kill the power play? Mickey will kill a power play
Speaker 1: for you. I was on our play killing unit too. Yes, yeah,
Speaker 1: that's the thing. We get him to the penalty box
Speaker 1: for twenty minutes, him off, and he made up for it.
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Speaker 1: They they they're fans. They want to pay everybody. Uh uh,
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Speaker 1: that Lyle Collins and and Elite Collins, right should yeah,
Speaker 1: both for a little bit. Yeah yeah. Fans are also saying, hey, guys,
Speaker 1: I'm watching Donovan Wilson and Mike Jackson. See we try
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Speaker 1: What are you right about today? You're gonna go up
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Speaker 1: read Mickey's work, deven better than him hammering out a commissioner. No,
Speaker 1: I mean it's and it's also about you know, taco
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Speaker 1: Connor Williams, y Yeah, Connor Williams is exactly Connor Williams
Speaker 1: was a question, how's Connor Williams looking as we h
Speaker 1: kind of meander our way through these practices. He looks big,
Speaker 1: he looks strong. It looks like he's setting better yeah
Speaker 1: for pass rush protection. Right, he's not quite yet a
Speaker 1: pro bowler. Tongue in cheek right there, shot at everybody. Well, no,
Speaker 1: I mean it's he's improved. I'm not saying, you know,
Speaker 1: offensive lines don't have five pro bowlers across the front.
Speaker 1: Sometimes you just have to have a guy, right yeah,
Speaker 1: and a guy that's good that can can help you win. Yea.
Speaker 1: And I think he's getting to that level. I think
Speaker 1: he's much improved from last year. He looks the part,
Speaker 1: he looks stronger, he's bigger, and that'll help him and
Speaker 1: it will also help that Travis Fredericks next to him.
Speaker 1: Nothing against Joe Looney, But Travis Frederick next to you
Speaker 1: makes you better? Well, you sounded really logical. Then I
Speaker 1: couldn't say anything about that. That's good stuff. I'm watching
Speaker 1: carry hydroant. Joe Thomas says, John, those are good. Joe
Speaker 1: Thomas is a guy. We don't talk about a lot,
Speaker 1: but I mean, everybody tells me that Joe Thomas could
Speaker 1: start if he was on another team. He has started
Speaker 1: games in this league. No, no, I da Packers, but
Speaker 1: that people are telling me if Joe Heck is the
Speaker 1: linebacker coach Ben Bloom, if Joe Thomas was on another team,
Speaker 1: he could start for someone's scheme specific could you argue?
Speaker 1: And I can't go down the list and tell you
Speaker 1: that the linebacker group here at full strength is as
Speaker 1: good as anyone in the entire league. Well, he with
Speaker 1: him fourth, Yeah, it's pretty good. Yeah, and Cummington seems
Speaker 1: to be doing better. Yeah. I had him kind of
Speaker 1: had a shovel full of dirt on Coving team because
Speaker 1: I was trying to get I was trying to get
Speaker 1: my uh. I was trying to get Luke Gifford on
Speaker 1: the team. You know, I was trying to can't you.
Speaker 1: I'm trying well that that's five. Yeah, You're I'm just
Speaker 1: I'm just thinking something's gonna happen there that maybe that
Speaker 1: always looks so good, And you know, I get so
Speaker 1: fired up about a guy then all of a sudden,
Speaker 1: I'm not yeah forgetting somebody. Yeah, there you go, Joe Thomas,
Speaker 1: Shawn Lee, Luke, that Nate Hall. See the cow is it?
Speaker 1: It's Caro kiro kiro, I say kiro so yeah, I
Speaker 1: say it wrong a lot. He's hurt right now. See
Speaker 1: that's it. He was my pet cat guy coming out
Speaker 1: of Star and I jinked him. He was a guy
Speaker 1: that you know that was gonna come in here. He
Speaker 1: was gonna run, he was gonna sideline to sideline. He
Speaker 1: was gonna play in coverage a little bit. He was
Speaker 1: gonna be physical. He needs to get back on the
Speaker 1: field to hear a good jinks that tell you about it. Yesterday,
Speaker 1: I think you guys were on you might have been
Speaker 1: doing your training camp lining camp live. So I'm walking
Speaker 1: down the sideline and you know how they were playing
Speaker 1: out and if he didn't make the first down, right,
Speaker 1: you kicked a field goal right, and uh, Brett Maher
Speaker 1: was hitting every one of them, and so some guy
Speaker 1: behind the fence yells at me. He goes, hey, Mick,
Speaker 1: what are you seeing out there? I said, boy, the
Speaker 1: kickers really kicking. Oh Nolan. The next kick, he kicked
Speaker 1: it off the go the upright, and I walked back
Speaker 1: there and I go, so I jinxed him hut, and
Speaker 1: they all busted out laughing. I do it what I
Speaker 1: said it, I said. I shouldn't have said anything. He
Speaker 1: was He was good from twenty eight, forty twenty six,
Speaker 1: an extra point forty two and then yes, a forty
Speaker 1: eight yarder to quote unquote win the game. Yes, and
Speaker 1: with twelve seconds tram and he never his ball never
Speaker 1: goes to the left. It never does. And it went
Speaker 1: to the left and hit the upright. Right. They went
Speaker 1: left in that blue white scrimmage. Yeah, it went and left.
Speaker 1: It almost hit our Yeah, were almost hit our station
Speaker 1: where we're over there doing the broadcast. It went left
Speaker 1: in Washington, Yeah, yeah, dunk uh double dunk. We keep
Speaker 1: talking about these young wide receivers. Periscope's interested in those guys. Yeah,
Speaker 1: let's see him and we're gonna Yeah. And that's the
Speaker 1: thing about it. And I like the fact that Cedric
Speaker 1: Wilson's in the mix too. He is, Yeah, because he
Speaker 1: was kind of a loss for Guiden guy, and part
Speaker 1: of it's because he missed all last season. Right, He's
Speaker 1: not a burner down the field necessarily like some of
Speaker 1: these other like a guiding or or John Vay. Uh,
Speaker 1: He's just he's just a notice gets open. He gets
Speaker 1: open because he said he's an efficient route runner, like
Speaker 1: Brian said, Sanjay's told us he's gotten better than he's
Speaker 1: made more strides young guys that out yesterday. Yeah, he
Speaker 1: was adamant about date. Says, hey, if there's one guy
Speaker 1: that's improved from last year to this year, it's Cedric Wilson. Yeah,
Speaker 1: absolutely about that. He can play inside. You see him
Speaker 1: line up in the slot, so he's got some versatility there. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he's he's one to I mean, I'm still I'm still
Speaker 1: a John Vey guy. I think he's got as much
Speaker 1: natural ability as any of these young guys were talking
Speaker 1: about though. That's why again, that's why Sanjay said that too.
Speaker 1: He's like, he's like, if you want to just talk.
Speaker 1: He was talking about picking up and I don't think
Speaker 1: this was a slam. I think he's just saying it's
Speaker 1: just the mental side of things. And sometimes you say mental,
Speaker 1: you think, oh, he's a dumb a, but he's not
Speaker 1: a dumber. No, it's not. It's not that. Sometimes you
Speaker 1: get going and then you short circuit a little bit
Speaker 1: because you're thinking, Okay, I've gotta do this, I gotta
Speaker 1: do this, I gotta do this, And that happens to
Speaker 1: these young receivers. I get these young receivers a lot
Speaker 1: of credit. I haven't seen him hit the wall yet.
Speaker 1: These guys are still running, they're still playing hard, getting better.
Speaker 1: They are getting better. You know, these guys might not
Speaker 1: hit the wall, but taking steps is Jalen Giton every
Speaker 1: kind of forgot about. Oh no, yeah, and Sanjay when
Speaker 1: he first got him, really really liked him and he
Speaker 1: started taking over the game. One of those sessions yesterday. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think we'll see Reggie Davis returning punts. I don't
Speaker 1: know that they have to send Randall Cobb out there,
Speaker 1: and he seems to have been the first one up
Speaker 1: whatever punting drill they were doing. So can you catch
Speaker 1: the ball? You know, don't Lanceolnorem me, Oh gosh, I
Speaker 1: don't need that to happen. How about how about a stop,
Speaker 1: get off the field, and all of a sudden you
Speaker 1: fumble and give him the ball back in midfield. I
Speaker 1: don't need that to your point, though, Brian, Look how
Speaker 1: much faster Michael Gallup is playing out here than he
Speaker 1: did last year. I mean it's just, i mean, just
Speaker 1: how the speed and things slow down for you with
Speaker 1: a year in the system. And that's what these guys
Speaker 1: are fighting through right now, especially these undrafted guys. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but that but they're not hitting the rookie wall yet.
Speaker 1: I'm just kind of noticed. I'm thinking, Okay, you know,
Speaker 1: he kind of feel like, Okay, these guys who cut
Speaker 1: themselves because they'll drop balls, you know. Uh the thing,
Speaker 1: Uh Johnson had a couple of drops in the Blue White. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but he tried to run with it. Be no, no, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: I know, I know, but that's I'm not giving a pass.
Speaker 1: But but yeah, but he's that He's caught everything that
Speaker 1: Reggie Davis has caught. Everything's been He's been really good too. Yeah.
Speaker 1: The only thing Reggie Davis has dropped as the ball
Speaker 1: got punched out from behind after he caught it. That
Speaker 1: was that was our guy. Donovan Wilson punching that ball loose.
Speaker 1: Give me, uh, mick, two guys you're watching on set,
Speaker 1: one on offense, one on defense. Wow, I'm sticking with
Speaker 1: Chun Yeah, and then uh defensively, Uh just Taco, Yeah,
Speaker 1: this Taco count. As a young he realized that without
Speaker 1: Crawford and um DeMarcus Lawrence on the field, he's got
Speaker 1: the most experience of anybody else. Twenty seven games. Hiders
Speaker 1: only played in twenty four right, so right, yeah, wow,
Speaker 1: because he missed an entire season. He got hurt and
Speaker 1: then missed part of that season and then got hurt, Uh,
Speaker 1: missed the next season. So he hadn't played that much.
Speaker 1: And Taco's got the most with twenty seven games of
Speaker 1: the guys that are practicing right, defensive defensive end. Okay,
Speaker 1: that's the entire line, you know, and and and uh
Speaker 1: you know they haven't done it yet, but the Joe
Speaker 1: Jackson moving inside hasn't taken place yet. Yeah, but I'll
Speaker 1: be interested. Get ready, something that's gonna have We're gonna
Speaker 1: get one of these games where everybody they're having to
Speaker 1: play just tongues are hanging out, tongues are hanging in,
Speaker 1: and he's gonna have to go inside and he might
Speaker 1: not know what the hell he's doing, but he'll do
Speaker 1: it to the best of his abilia. He'll do all that.
Speaker 1: Cooper Rush and Luke Gifford were my two guys I'm
Speaker 1: I'm watching. Yeah, I want to see Cooper. I want
Speaker 1: to see if Cooper Rush can carry some of the
Speaker 1: good things he's done on the field over to games.
Speaker 1: You talked about him last year having a decent game. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he needs to command the offense, move the team, finish
Speaker 1: some drives. He needs to lead the young guys. He
Speaker 1: needs to help the young guys. He's a veteran. Help
Speaker 1: the young guy running back, help the young guy lawfensive lineman,
Speaker 1: help the young guy receivers. Be a veteran out there
Speaker 1: do these things. Are trying to not only get yourself evaluated,
Speaker 1: but everybody else. And then Luke Gifford on the other side, Yeah,
Speaker 1: playing with a busted up finger. You know, I want
Speaker 1: to see Luke Gifford probably being on six seven tackles,
Speaker 1: maybe that second half stopping a Ryan the line of scrimmage,
Speaker 1: Maybe the ball goes underneath to a back run over
Speaker 1: there and tackle. That's I don't need to see him
Speaker 1: missing any tackles in space or anything like that. Find
Speaker 1: a way to make this football team. I think he
Speaker 1: can do it. I've got uh, Cedric Wilson and Joe
Speaker 1: Jackson because to me that I lump of them in
Speaker 1: kind of together, because they're two guys that have stood
Speaker 1: out more and more as we've been out. Yes, and
Speaker 1: so can they carry it and continue to ascend in
Speaker 1: this game. I think that'll be fun to watch for
Speaker 1: these two guys. You know, they need to give Cooper
Speaker 1: Rush as many snaps as they can, agree because if
Speaker 1: you're gonna divide them up and you only get half.
Speaker 1: These guys have not played in a game that last year.
Speaker 1: Said that, right, Yep, you said. That's part of the job.
Speaker 1: So he's got a I know. But when you're a
Speaker 1: part of the kind of a young quarterback ascending, you
Speaker 1: gotta play. You can't assnd running the scout team, right,
Speaker 1: And that's all he did last year. I think he
Speaker 1: took six snaps and he handed the ball off every
Speaker 1: time at the end of that Jacksonville game. He's not
Speaker 1: thrown a pass now since preseason last year, preseason last
Speaker 1: in a game game. That's why these reps are so important.
Speaker 1: On him. Yes, and so now you got to see
Speaker 1: him in the game. Give him to him, right if
Speaker 1: you're if you're trying to develop a backup, and he's
Speaker 1: your backup of the future, Well let's see. I wonder
Speaker 1: who's the who was the next guy in line in
Speaker 1: Philadelphia when Sutfield went down with the broken wrist. They've
Speaker 1: shuffled that thing around a little bit. Well, I'm not sure,
Speaker 1: so I wish. I'm a wonder if they've got to
Speaker 1: sign somebody out. They said they were gonna they were gonna, Wait,
Speaker 1: they're out, Yeah, Doug Doug Peterson. Who to go to
Speaker 1: arladg or go to the Eagles? I don't know. I
Speaker 1: mean because they lost Sutfield was a guy that they
Speaker 1: were that they were really kind of talent. That's why
Speaker 1: they one of the reasons why they let U let
Speaker 1: the guy walk to Jacksonville that they felt foals. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they felt good enough about him. You know why Barclay's
Speaker 1: playing somewhere else now. He used to be there kind
Speaker 1: of their backup guy Buffalo. So yeah, I don't know who. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Clayton Thorson. Yeah that's a kid from Northwestern Yeah. Yeah,
Speaker 1: the Northern Draft round from Northwestern, so he's next in line,
Speaker 1: next in line, Yeah, and they probably need to sign
Speaker 1: one to just get him through preseason. Well, we'll see,
Speaker 1: we'll see. Hopefully the Cowboys get through unscathed. No callahan, callahan, Okay,
Speaker 1: thank you, Mickey, and uh that's it for this week
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