WEBVTT - Mick Shots: Super Show 0:00:02.560 --> 0:00:05.080 The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 0:00:05.080 --> 0:00:13.120 and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club Cowboys. This is Mick 0:00:13.360 --> 0:00:17.319 shot screening live on Dallas Cowboys dot Com and the 0:00:17.400 --> 0:00:22.560 official Dallas Cowboys At now Here are Bill Jones, Everson Walls, 0:00:22.880 --> 0:00:28.560 and Nicky Spagnola, and the road the Super Bowl fifty 0:00:28.600 --> 0:00:32.920 eight in Las Vegas begins now here on mix shots 0:00:33.000 --> 0:00:37.440 inside the SWBC podcast studio Bill Jones along with Mickey 0:00:37.640 --> 0:00:41.520 Spagnola and Mickey I feel like we should have had 0:00:41.880 --> 0:00:49.400 stampede to start this show because because an Eagles non victory, 0:00:49.640 --> 0:00:52.480 in my opinion, is at Cowboys victory in the Super 0:00:52.479 --> 0:00:56.680 Bowl on Sunday. You know what. There you go, and 0:00:56.800 --> 0:01:02.680 I'm hoping Dallas, we're Cowboys better than them lousy Eagles 0:01:02.720 --> 0:01:13.759 things that's stuck in my stuck in your crowd really bad. Well, 0:01:13.800 --> 0:01:15.920 we got much to get to over the course of 0:01:15.959 --> 0:01:18.720 the next forty five minutes to an hour, and we 0:01:18.840 --> 0:01:21.399 may go an hour in forty five minutes. Sometimes there's 0:01:21.480 --> 0:01:24.920 karma in the world. Got what you deserve. There you go, 0:01:25.160 --> 0:01:28.639 and we are obviously are here inside the st BBC 0:01:28.800 --> 0:01:34.200 podcast studio and on location in a remote spot somewhere 0:01:34.440 --> 0:01:39.920 in the world. Once again, there's ever some walls. If 0:01:39.959 --> 0:01:45.040 you must must know, William, I am in since city, 0:01:45.240 --> 0:01:50.440 Las Vegas. Oh care some business. So just in case 0:01:51.120 --> 0:01:53.760 you thought I was just at the gambut, I don't gamble. 0:01:54.760 --> 0:01:57.760 I however, do buy a lot of expensive dog gone 0:01:57.800 --> 0:01:59.760 food out here. Oh my god, this place a rip off. 0:01:59.800 --> 0:02:03.840 Man be a break. So ever, since I was thinking 0:02:03.960 --> 0:02:06.760 he was in that that that that cell block that 0:02:06.840 --> 0:02:10.880 we saw last time, remember the brick wall, and I 0:02:10.960 --> 0:02:13.720 was thinking he got out. Maybe he's got something to 0:02:13.760 --> 0:02:18.120 do with these balloons flying over the country, you know. Ever, 0:02:18.240 --> 0:02:22.600 since you must admit that was an ugly situation that 0:02:22.720 --> 0:02:25.679 you speak of spags, thank you very much. I was 0:02:25.800 --> 0:02:30.080 ill prepared at that moment. I am ready this time, 0:02:30.120 --> 0:02:34.200 you see. I am in wonderful quarters here in Las Vegas. 0:02:34.360 --> 0:02:39.239 All right, everything's fine. And also Bill, I must disagree 0:02:39.280 --> 0:02:42.919 with you. Yeah, sorry, Um, I know, I know we 0:02:42.960 --> 0:02:46.720 hate these guys. I know. My daughter is like, my 0:02:46.800 --> 0:02:48.720 daughter is like, oh, there's no way I'm pulling in them, 0:02:48.720 --> 0:02:50.560 because they would not pulling for us. And I could 0:02:50.600 --> 0:02:52.560 just see her work in her neck even though this 0:02:52.680 --> 0:02:57.280 was texting me. So now she uh was very happy 0:02:57.320 --> 0:03:00.120 that they lost. I was actually pulling, you know, you 0:03:00.120 --> 0:03:06.359 gotta pull up for the NFC east Man. You m, well, yeah, 0:03:06.400 --> 0:03:09.680 you just pulled something. Because you just pulled something because 0:03:10.120 --> 0:03:15.520 we lost your voice. I don't know what just happened there. Ever, Everson, 0:03:15.600 --> 0:03:19.239 we we've lost audio with you there. Uh, there's that 0:03:19.400 --> 0:03:22.480 last comment. You may. I think that I just wonder 0:03:22.560 --> 0:03:28.760 if it could Everson be in Vegas a year from now? Oh? Yes, absolutely, 0:03:28.919 --> 0:03:31.240 he's a year early to be in Vegas. That's right, 0:03:31.360 --> 0:03:34.600 that's right, all right, So we'll get things. So I 0:03:34.680 --> 0:03:37.640 worked out with Everson there as far as his audio goes. 0:03:37.760 --> 0:03:42.320 All right. So your first impressions of what happened on Sunday, 0:03:42.360 --> 0:03:44.360 do you want to start with the Philly fans booing 0:03:44.440 --> 0:03:49.160 dac Yes, absolutely, just kind of ruined the beginning of 0:03:49.160 --> 0:03:51.920 the darn thing. Yeah. The whole lead up to the 0:03:51.960 --> 0:03:56.280 game was great, right, the stuff with um I get 0:03:56.320 --> 0:04:00.080 my days mixed up to maur Hamlin and h you know, 0:04:00.160 --> 0:04:04.600 the Thursday night then to get to him and regarding 0:04:04.640 --> 0:04:06.720 that as well, and they did it again and during 0:04:06.760 --> 0:04:10.880 the game, and you know, and all the music before 0:04:11.000 --> 0:04:14.080 the game and the lead up and then they you know, 0:04:14.200 --> 0:04:18.520 gonna introduced the guys that were selected the Pro Football 0:04:18.560 --> 0:04:22.760 Hall of Fame and brought out all the guys that 0:04:22.839 --> 0:04:27.680 were nominated for the Walter Peyton Man of the Year Award, 0:04:27.880 --> 0:04:33.440 and then introduced Dak with the the trophy right there, 0:04:34.560 --> 0:04:39.920 and then they booed him. They booed him. Now, if 0:04:39.960 --> 0:04:42.880 I'm Dak, I'm thinking, Okay, Santa Claus and me, I'm 0:04:42.920 --> 0:04:46.640 pretty good coming right, Dak knew exactly right. Yeah he was. 0:04:47.120 --> 0:04:49.479 He was laughing, he was smiling at he should have 0:04:49.520 --> 0:04:53.640 done more, he should have started to wait whatever and 0:04:53.440 --> 0:04:56.599 and and should have put up a four. Oh, we 0:04:56.680 --> 0:05:00.240 scored the most points against your team all season, and 0:05:00.320 --> 0:05:03.440 that's still the case, and it is Chiefs only got 0:05:03.480 --> 0:05:06.120 thirty eight. Yeah, I got thirty eight, right, they couldn't 0:05:06.160 --> 0:05:10.240 score forty. But you know, that's kind of what we 0:05:10.360 --> 0:05:13.400 thought was gonna happen. We both picked. I believe Kansas 0:05:13.440 --> 0:05:15.520 City to win, and I thought my homes would be 0:05:15.600 --> 0:05:21.000 the difference. And while Jalen Hurts was awfully, awfully good, Uh, 0:05:21.040 --> 0:05:24.400 my homes saved the day. All right. Ever, since, what 0:05:24.440 --> 0:05:29.720 were your impressions of what happened on Sunday? I don't 0:05:29.720 --> 0:05:36.120 think he can still hear us. No, Nope, apparently not. Um. 0:05:36.160 --> 0:05:39.280 I laughed when the Philly fans. At first, I was like, oh, 0:05:39.320 --> 0:05:41.600 they're wait, they're booting, and then oh, no, those are 0:05:41.600 --> 0:05:44.080 the Phillies. That's what. I took me a while to 0:05:44.080 --> 0:05:47.320 figure out who was booing right, almost had to. I 0:05:47.440 --> 0:05:51.200 was like, what's Kansas City got against the Cowboys? You know, 0:05:51.760 --> 0:05:56.279 Lamar Hunt? I mean the Hunts live here, right, uh 0:05:56.680 --> 0:06:00.960 Clark Clark Hunt, Yeah, and yeah, yeah, so yeah, and 0:06:01.080 --> 0:06:05.120 I said, oh, it's Philadelphia of course. But anyway, No, 0:06:05.839 --> 0:06:09.200 you know, a great game, um back and forth, and 0:06:09.640 --> 0:06:12.719 I think everybody thought it, you know, halftime that you know, 0:06:12.839 --> 0:06:16.279 down ten that Kansas City was you know, dead in 0:06:16.320 --> 0:06:19.080 the water, and you know, I was thinking, well, they've 0:06:19.120 --> 0:06:21.800 got the first possession. All you got to do is 0:06:21.839 --> 0:06:24.240 score a touchdown, right, and it's a three point game, 0:06:24.560 --> 0:06:27.920 so you know, there's still a lot of football left 0:06:27.960 --> 0:06:30.320 to be played. And everybody's like all the changes they 0:06:30.360 --> 0:06:32.960 made the second half. Well, the change they made in 0:06:33.000 --> 0:06:36.279 the second half was they got the football. They only 0:06:36.320 --> 0:06:40.279 had the ball what eight minutes the first half eight 0:06:41.000 --> 0:06:45.080 they didn't have really had any possessions, so they scored 0:06:45.200 --> 0:06:48.880 and then they finally got um, they finally got and 0:06:48.920 --> 0:06:51.280 they and then even after they scored, they didn't get 0:06:51.320 --> 0:06:55.000 a stop. Right, it ended up still ten points twenty 0:06:55.000 --> 0:07:00.400 seven seventeen. So until the defense got some stops, Yeah, 0:07:00.440 --> 0:07:03.560 they were going to have problems because Philadelphia score in 0:07:03.600 --> 0:07:07.440 every possession they had. They basically played a near perfect 0:07:07.960 --> 0:07:12.600 second half offensively. Yeah, yeah, she astutely when and when 0:07:12.640 --> 0:07:16.280 you thought that Mahomes was toast right the way he 0:07:16.320 --> 0:07:18.640 was acting on the bench after the guy grabbed his 0:07:18.680 --> 0:07:23.040 ankle on the way down, it was like, oh not, Henny, 0:07:23.080 --> 0:07:25.400 They're not gonna have to play him, right, And this 0:07:25.440 --> 0:07:30.240 team's gonna not only knock out the third string quarterback 0:07:30.320 --> 0:07:33.160 in the NFC title game, now they're gonna knock out 0:07:33.200 --> 0:07:36.360 the league MVP and have to play a backup that 0:07:36.400 --> 0:07:40.280 hasn't played all year and probably didn't want to play 0:07:40.320 --> 0:07:44.480 because immediately after the game he retired Chad. Henny. Yes, yep, 0:07:45.800 --> 0:07:47.640 we'll get Everson back here in a moment. So I'm 0:07:47.640 --> 0:07:53.440 gonna save the quote unquote most controversial play the call 0:07:53.880 --> 0:07:57.160 because I want to get Everson's opinion on it, since 0:07:57.200 --> 0:07:59.560 he's a defensive back, since he's a defensive back. I 0:07:59.600 --> 0:08:01.120 want to I want to hear what he has to 0:08:01.160 --> 0:08:05.240 say about that. But you know, you look back and 0:08:05.440 --> 0:08:08.360 h you know, obviously the Eagles had a great season, 0:08:08.440 --> 0:08:12.080 but I was looking back at had a conversation with 0:08:12.200 --> 0:08:16.440 someone last week about who have they beaten this season? Right, 0:08:16.560 --> 0:08:19.840 And if you go back through their schedule, there's not 0:08:19.960 --> 0:08:21.960 a lot of Like if if you were the college 0:08:22.000 --> 0:08:26.680 football Playoff Committee and you were seating them number one, 0:08:26.720 --> 0:08:28.640 well just now they would have been one or two. 0:08:28.840 --> 0:08:33.040 But h but if you're looking like looking at okay, 0:08:33.040 --> 0:08:36.240 well what's their signature win? There weren't a lot of 0:08:36.600 --> 0:08:40.640 signature wins, meaning wins over really good teams this season 0:08:41.360 --> 0:08:44.560 when over the Cowboys came with Cooper Rushes a backup quarterback. Course, 0:08:44.559 --> 0:08:47.400 they didn't have Hurts when the Cowboys had the return 0:08:47.480 --> 0:08:50.400 matchup and the Cowboys won that one right before Christmas. 0:08:50.880 --> 0:08:55.840 But you look at their seat the Eagles season and 0:08:55.880 --> 0:08:59.320 where they were at one point. They were thirteen and 0:08:59.400 --> 0:09:03.240 one coming into the Dallas game on Christmas Eve and 0:09:03.520 --> 0:09:08.200 since then now understand the Hurts was hurt and they 0:09:08.240 --> 0:09:11.200 lost a couple of games there, but they wound up 0:09:11.240 --> 0:09:14.559 going three and three their last six games. In contrast, 0:09:14.679 --> 0:09:18.000 look at the Chiefs. The Chiefs had three losses this season, 0:09:18.920 --> 0:09:23.880 and those losses were by a grand total of just 0:09:24.000 --> 0:09:26.760 over ten points. They were all three or four point losses, 0:09:26.760 --> 0:09:29.720 all three of them going back to Week three of 0:09:29.760 --> 0:09:33.400 the season. Some of them were earlier. Yeah, Week three 0:09:33.440 --> 0:09:37.280 of the season, they lost to Indianapolis twenty to seventeen. 0:09:37.840 --> 0:09:41.959 Week six, they lost to Buffalo by four twenty four 0:09:42.000 --> 0:09:45.040 to twenty and so they were four and two at 0:09:45.080 --> 0:09:47.360 that point of the season. And then their only loss 0:09:47.480 --> 0:09:51.360 the rest of the season came December fourth at Cincinnati, 0:09:51.400 --> 0:09:53.920 that twenty seven twenty four loss. So this is a 0:09:53.920 --> 0:09:57.000 team that not only one and at that point of 0:09:57.000 --> 0:09:59.800 the year they were nine and three. So they wind 0:09:59.840 --> 0:10:03.000 up seventeen and three. They won their last eight games, 0:10:03.240 --> 0:10:05.960 and they won twelve of their last thirteen games. That's 0:10:05.960 --> 0:10:08.000 how well the Chiefs have played this season. So why 0:10:08.040 --> 0:10:10.959 do you think everybody was thinking that the Eagles were 0:10:10.960 --> 0:10:14.000 going to win and they were their favorites. Willem's injury 0:10:15.080 --> 0:10:19.000 that perhaps, but it became a narrative all season because 0:10:19.000 --> 0:10:21.320 the Eagles had gotten off to such a great start 0:10:21.360 --> 0:10:23.679 this season that they are the team to beat, right 0:10:23.920 --> 0:10:26.400 and then they kept you know, they'd lost Hurts for 0:10:26.400 --> 0:10:29.079 a couple of games, and so but they still they 0:10:29.120 --> 0:10:30.840 had such a lead in the division, they were able 0:10:30.840 --> 0:10:33.040 to win the division and have the number one seed, 0:10:33.400 --> 0:10:36.640 and so they were still the perception was still, well, 0:10:36.679 --> 0:10:39.520 the Eagles are the team to beat, without really digging 0:10:39.520 --> 0:10:42.560 into the details of their season and so forth. But 0:10:43.440 --> 0:10:47.200 and you know in Kansas City, asked Travis, Kelsey pointed 0:10:47.200 --> 0:10:51.280 out the time and time again, you know, no one 0:10:51.320 --> 0:10:53.760 other than someone in this room had picked Kansas City 0:10:53.800 --> 0:10:56.200 to win the Super Bowl. He never met me and 0:10:56.320 --> 0:11:00.800 Bill Jones at the beginning of the season, and you 0:11:00.880 --> 0:11:03.920 pick Changes City to beginning season, I believe. So okay, 0:11:04.080 --> 0:11:06.640 it was. And the reason no one picked him was 0:11:06.640 --> 0:11:09.839 because they lost Tyreek Hill right and Brett Veats. Their 0:11:09.880 --> 0:11:13.080 GM did a great job of in the off season 0:11:13.240 --> 0:11:18.760 and even during the season acquiring Kadarius Tony the Giants 0:11:18.760 --> 0:11:21.480 and was one of those picks. You know how many 0:11:21.520 --> 0:11:24.560 snaps Kadarius Tony played in the game, not many? Six 0:11:24.640 --> 0:11:28.079 on offense, yeah yeah, and then his special teams and 0:11:28.160 --> 0:11:31.199 had the big sixty five yard but return his his 0:11:31.280 --> 0:11:34.960 production per snap, Yeah, he was close to be in 0:11:35.000 --> 0:11:38.040 the MVP, right, that was a heck of him. He 0:11:39.000 --> 0:11:44.080 Darius Tony is basically their Gavante Turbos. Yeah, and made 0:11:44.080 --> 0:11:46.880 a difference. And I would have thought that there had 0:11:47.000 --> 0:11:50.760 been a punt return longer than that in Super Bowl history. Yeah, 0:11:50.800 --> 0:11:52.319 I was surprised to hear that. And what was it 0:11:52.760 --> 0:11:58.120 sixty sixty five yards? Yeah? So, but yeah, they had 0:11:58.200 --> 0:12:01.480 guys step up. I mean the first half, I don't 0:12:01.480 --> 0:12:04.480 think we knew who their receivers were if you think 0:12:04.520 --> 0:12:08.520 about it. Um, I didn't look at the stats on 0:12:09.120 --> 0:12:14.199 the first half, but um so other than Kelsey with 0:12:14.280 --> 0:12:19.960 three catches, McKinnon running back had two um and then 0:12:20.840 --> 0:12:25.720 one two catches. It's Gray. Gray was a tight end night. 0:12:26.000 --> 0:12:29.280 So the wide receivers had two catches at the end 0:12:29.320 --> 0:12:31.600 of the first half, but they didn't have the football 0:12:31.880 --> 0:12:35.119 right how many? And they're one of their two touchdowns 0:12:35.120 --> 0:12:37.800 was on a fumble return by the Missouri Tiger and 0:12:37.880 --> 0:12:43.360 first of Nick Bolton, they had a football player, by 0:12:43.360 --> 0:12:46.320 the way, hitting it up with nine tackles. If if 0:12:46.400 --> 0:12:50.320 a defensive guy needed to be the MVP, he was 0:12:50.360 --> 0:12:54.840 pretty darn close, right, nine tackles he had right down 0:12:54.880 --> 0:12:57.640 the road here in firstco They had twenty plays in 0:12:57.679 --> 0:13:02.560 the first half, that's it. Twenty seven of them were runs. 0:13:02.840 --> 0:13:05.280 So yeah, there was a reason. I don't know how 0:13:05.360 --> 0:13:08.800 much they changed the second half. They everybody said, well 0:13:08.840 --> 0:13:11.400 they came out and ran the ball. Well, okay, they 0:13:11.400 --> 0:13:13.960 didn't have a chance to run the ball the first half. Right, 0:13:14.360 --> 0:13:17.559 we knew going in the Pacheco could give them problems, 0:13:17.559 --> 0:13:20.920 and he did. That was your guy, right for your 0:13:20.960 --> 0:13:24.600 pick to click, and they got him going and then 0:13:24.800 --> 0:13:27.640 things started, you know. But still even though they scored, 0:13:28.559 --> 0:13:31.560 Philadelphia came back and scored, and it was twenty seven seventeen. 0:13:32.000 --> 0:13:34.840 All right. We got Everson on the phone now, and Everson, 0:13:35.160 --> 0:13:36.600 I don't know if you how much you've been able 0:13:36.640 --> 0:13:38.440 to listen to what we've been talking about, but I 0:13:38.440 --> 0:13:43.199 wanted to save the whole defensive holding call to get 0:13:43.280 --> 0:13:46.480 your opinion before we discussed it. Of course, it was 0:13:46.559 --> 0:13:49.600 the key play of the game. Down the stretch, James 0:13:49.600 --> 0:13:52.679 Bradberry called for the defensive hold on Juju Smith Schuster 0:13:53.120 --> 0:13:56.000 as a cornerback. What was your take on that call? 0:13:57.280 --> 0:14:01.160 You know, it was definite the Cowboys fight for the 0:14:01.240 --> 0:14:04.080 Niners game. When you're talking about Donovan Wilson, you know, 0:14:04.160 --> 0:14:11.280 once you get in that area. Uh, sometimes the referee 0:14:11.679 --> 0:14:18.600 this is just not gonna walk. Oh there we go 0:14:18.920 --> 0:14:20.880 say that one more time ever since because we lost 0:14:20.920 --> 0:14:24.800 you for just a second. The referee, you don't understand 0:14:24.800 --> 0:14:27.720 that they're not supposed to be a part of the 0:14:27.760 --> 0:14:31.480 game when you're talking about being in that crucial situation. 0:14:32.160 --> 0:14:35.480 I'm sorry, I did not think it was a passionfence call. 0:14:36.000 --> 0:14:39.000 I barely thought Donaldan Wilson's was a passion offense call. 0:14:39.560 --> 0:14:45.080 You have to be able to somehow, um uh control 0:14:45.680 --> 0:14:50.200 your space as a defensive player, even if you're covering 0:14:50.240 --> 0:14:53.800 a wide receiver. You understand what I'm saying. They tend 0:14:53.840 --> 0:14:57.880 to act as if we're playing shadow a shadow game. 0:14:58.600 --> 0:15:01.760 You still have a tense your space and you still 0:15:01.840 --> 0:15:04.400 have a chance to have some contact so that you 0:15:04.440 --> 0:15:09.080 can maintain the leverage that you have on that receiver. 0:15:09.720 --> 0:15:12.120 You have to give them that chance. And I thought 0:15:12.160 --> 0:15:15.680 that was a crappy call. Well, I thought the first 0:15:15.720 --> 0:15:18.240 grab is what he got called for, not the set, 0:15:18.360 --> 0:15:20.520 not the left hand. It was the right hand when 0:15:20.520 --> 0:15:26.000 he tried to keep him from reversing field on him. So, 0:15:27.760 --> 0:15:30.720 I mean brad Berry said afterwards it was a hold 0:15:31.600 --> 0:15:33.880 he was trying to hold. He didn't hold very well. 0:15:34.760 --> 0:15:37.400 I think that might have been the problem. But again, 0:15:37.640 --> 0:15:39.920 well I would have to say that in the words 0:15:39.960 --> 0:15:44.600 of a never mind. Yeah right, But I agree with 0:15:44.640 --> 0:15:47.760 you Everson on and I thought exactly of the George 0:15:47.840 --> 0:15:50.880 Kittle a play against Donovan Wilson in the Cowboys game, 0:15:51.480 --> 0:15:57.120 and the problem that I had with that one was 0:15:57.200 --> 0:16:00.840 I think Kittle purposely was trying to draw the foul 0:16:00.920 --> 0:16:02.800 on a third and eight play, And of course that 0:16:02.840 --> 0:16:05.560 was a player where DeMarcus Lawrence got the sack huge 0:16:05.560 --> 0:16:10.400 play in that game and he so it was an 0:16:10.400 --> 0:16:15.240 Academy Award winning acting performance from Kittle that he got held. 0:16:15.400 --> 0:16:18.520 And so I hated in that situation to see an 0:16:18.520 --> 0:16:22.040 offensive player be rewarded for something he was intentionally trying 0:16:22.120 --> 0:16:24.960 to do. There. I don't know what Donovan Wilson's supposed 0:16:24.960 --> 0:16:27.040 to do in that situation when he goes right into 0:16:27.200 --> 0:16:29.600 the game. When you have a game that was being 0:16:29.600 --> 0:16:32.400 played as well as both of those games have been played, 0:16:32.800 --> 0:16:36.920 you have to know as the referee beforehand, you know, 0:16:37.480 --> 0:16:39.840 we got to kind of let things play out here 0:16:40.200 --> 0:16:43.200 because the games are being played so well at an 0:16:43.240 --> 0:16:46.840 excellent pace and it was exciting. So now for you 0:16:46.880 --> 0:16:50.120 to come in after really not hard of being in existence, 0:16:50.440 --> 0:16:53.560 you didn't really see many I don't recall a lot 0:16:53.600 --> 0:16:56.000 of apivoties in the game, and now you want to 0:16:56.040 --> 0:16:59.479 make a difference back to me, it is just bad optics. 0:17:00.000 --> 0:17:03.360 And and I think that an official, and I know 0:17:03.440 --> 0:17:07.040 this probably goes against the officials handbook or whatever, but 0:17:07.080 --> 0:17:09.520 I think they have to have an awareness of the 0:17:09.600 --> 0:17:13.919 situation in the game and the fact that's yeah, that 0:17:14.080 --> 0:17:17.439 is that is a third down play that if in 0:17:17.480 --> 0:17:20.159 is and in this case in this game, that is 0:17:20.200 --> 0:17:23.120 a third down play that if they get that first down, 0:17:23.240 --> 0:17:26.640 if you make that call, you have just effectively ended 0:17:26.680 --> 0:17:29.800 this football game. And that that's exactly what that play did. 0:17:29.800 --> 0:17:32.520 It ended the game because Kansas City still would have 0:17:32.600 --> 0:17:35.359 kicked a field goal. You're assuming, right, it was going 0:17:35.440 --> 0:17:36.919 to be even if they had not gained any more 0:17:37.000 --> 0:17:41.360 yard thirty thirty yards, you were giving them an opportunity. 0:17:41.960 --> 0:17:44.360 But I'm saying, with the first down, then then they're 0:17:44.359 --> 0:17:46.520 bringing the clock all the way, then they would have 0:17:46.520 --> 0:17:50.640 had the opportunity. Uh what there would have been about 0:17:51.760 --> 0:17:53.919 two of less than a minute. You don't make that 0:17:54.000 --> 0:17:57.960 call and um, and they're kicking a field goal and 0:17:58.320 --> 0:18:03.240 uh presumably so the next place started at one forty eight, 0:18:03.400 --> 0:18:05.960 so there would have been one forty five left for 0:18:06.200 --> 0:18:08.680 Hurts to make. And the other part of it is 0:18:09.440 --> 0:18:12.920 Mahomes throw to Juju if there was not a hold 0:18:12.960 --> 0:18:16.359 on no contact whatsoever the throw to Juju, there was 0:18:16.400 --> 0:18:19.879 no way they were completing that pass him so much. Yeah, 0:18:19.920 --> 0:18:22.439 and the hole took and it was a hold, so 0:18:22.480 --> 0:18:24.720 it took place before he threw the ball. I think 0:18:24.720 --> 0:18:27.080 he just brought loaded. He he might have seen the 0:18:27.080 --> 0:18:33.800 flag to go down. But here's the right yeah, okay, yeah, 0:18:33.840 --> 0:18:36.920 but but here's like Brady like that. Here's what everybody. 0:18:37.119 --> 0:18:41.280 Here's the other thing. Okay, So tell me this. Do 0:18:41.320 --> 0:18:45.639 you think Goddard's foot was down as he re established 0:18:45.720 --> 0:18:48.880 the catch on that ball on third and fourteen when 0:18:48.920 --> 0:18:52.679 they reviewed it, because that allowed them to kick a 0:18:52.720 --> 0:18:56.520 field goal, right, that continued that drive on that play 0:18:56.600 --> 0:19:00.159 that was reviewed. I still don't think that foot was 0:19:00.160 --> 0:19:03.000 still down when he bobbled the ball. He was third 0:19:03.040 --> 0:19:07.480 and fourteen at the Kansas City forty seven. They're punny, right, 0:19:08.000 --> 0:19:12.560 And when you saw the replay, people on so the 0:19:12.640 --> 0:19:16.560 sideline officials that they're not on the part of the crew. 0:19:16.640 --> 0:19:20.320 They're the sideline guys, right, they're both telling the other team, yeah, 0:19:21.000 --> 0:19:24.440 it's going your way. Because at one point the Eagles 0:19:24.440 --> 0:19:26.919 are going they're celebrating like it's a catch, and then 0:19:26.960 --> 0:19:29.959 the next thing you know, Kansas City's walking up the 0:19:30.000 --> 0:19:33.520 field like it's going to be a punt, and then 0:19:33.560 --> 0:19:35.960 they decided that they were going to hold it as 0:19:35.960 --> 0:19:40.399 a catch. I don't think it was a catch, but 0:19:40.520 --> 0:19:44.080 no one's talking about that, you know. And I'll give Sirianni. 0:19:44.160 --> 0:19:48.480 He's kind of irritating, but I'll give him credit after 0:19:48.520 --> 0:19:51.000 the game when when he had to answer the question 0:19:51.040 --> 0:19:53.399 about the hold, he said, there was a lot of 0:19:53.480 --> 0:19:56.840 other plays in the game that helped decide the outcome. 0:19:57.080 --> 0:19:59.120 And I give him credit for that because he's right. 0:19:59.200 --> 0:20:03.160 Everybody forgot because that play took place with six thirteen 0:20:03.400 --> 0:20:06.399 left in the third quarter. Everybody forgot about that catch. 0:20:06.800 --> 0:20:09.240 That wasn't a catch. The guy was out of bounds, 0:20:09.520 --> 0:20:12.800 he only had one foot down, but that that was 0:20:12.880 --> 0:20:15.879 three points. It take those three points away, and you 0:20:15.920 --> 0:20:18.960 know it's a different outcome. So I think tip for 0:20:19.040 --> 0:20:23.080 tap there. 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Okay, well you 0:23:35.240 --> 0:23:39.240 got on your legal pad, my legal pad a lot 0:23:39.480 --> 0:23:45.239 on mahomes on when you thought he was done and 0:23:45.560 --> 0:23:48.520 comes back and played at the level he did and 0:23:48.680 --> 0:23:55.160 ran the football. I thought it was absolutely fantastic that 0:23:55.920 --> 0:23:59.679 And you know what, I'd ever realized that that the 0:23:59.840 --> 0:24:04.600 MVP of the season had lost nine straight games and 0:24:04.760 --> 0:24:08.720 Super Bowls and he ended up being the first one 0:24:08.760 --> 0:24:12.640 that broke the string, broke that string that he doubled. 0:24:12.760 --> 0:24:16.680 And boy, and hare's my other thing. How do these 0:24:16.880 --> 0:24:19.800 how do these teams get wide receivers so wide open? 0:24:21.240 --> 0:24:25.600 Is it play design? A couple of instances in yesterday's 0:24:25.640 --> 0:24:28.280 game it was play design. Well, both of those touchdowns 0:24:28.359 --> 0:24:31.600 late for Kansas City, right when they had the Tony 0:24:31.720 --> 0:24:34.520 and it was he was in motion and then doubled 0:24:34.520 --> 0:24:38.320 back and they couldn't they couldn't come back them. Yeah, 0:24:38.359 --> 0:24:41.400 then sky Moore kind of the same thing. What if 0:24:41.400 --> 0:24:43.280 you recall guys, I think we did the same thing 0:24:43.359 --> 0:24:47.040