1 00:00:02,160 --> 00:00:05,120 Speaker 1: I just think the Ravens defense is playing really well 2 00:00:05,240 --> 00:00:07,360 Speaker 1: right now, and I think that they're going to get 3 00:00:07,400 --> 00:00:11,520 Speaker 1: to him a little bit. I honestly think this might 4 00:00:11,560 --> 00:00:13,800 Speaker 1: be the most compelling game of the weekend. They are 5 00:00:13,840 --> 00:00:17,360 Speaker 1: getting healthy at just the right time, and that should 6 00:00:17,440 --> 00:00:22,560 Speaker 1: really scare the heck out of people. We're back. We 7 00:00:22,680 --> 00:00:25,280 Speaker 1: told you, He told you we'd have a second episode 8 00:00:25,280 --> 00:00:28,080 Speaker 1: this week, and we always deliver. It's playoff week and 9 00:00:28,120 --> 00:00:31,360 Speaker 1: we deliver. Baby, Yeah, we're here. We had a second episode. 10 00:00:31,400 --> 00:00:34,000 Speaker 1: We got Michelle Tafoya, who's gonna be on the broadcast 11 00:00:34,040 --> 00:00:37,159 Speaker 1: for NBC for this playoff game between the Bills and 12 00:00:37,200 --> 00:00:39,519 Speaker 1: the Ravens, and uh yeah, we had to do the 13 00:00:39,520 --> 00:00:41,919 Speaker 1: reaction podcast on Monday after the game. I mean, there 14 00:00:42,000 --> 00:00:44,760 Speaker 1: was just too much, too much energy, too big a win, 15 00:00:44,960 --> 00:00:47,000 Speaker 1: too big a win, too big a win, too much energy. 16 00:00:47,000 --> 00:00:49,560 Speaker 1: It's playoff week, and we had a lot to say. 17 00:00:49,960 --> 00:00:51,880 Speaker 1: But we're still coming back and we're delivering the goods 18 00:00:51,920 --> 00:00:55,040 Speaker 1: once again with a great guest. Who's gonna have a 19 00:00:55,600 --> 00:00:59,400 Speaker 1: close look at Sunday's game or Saturday's game between the 20 00:00:59,480 --> 00:01:01,480 Speaker 1: Ravens and the bi L's Michelle Foya. So we're gonna 21 00:01:01,480 --> 00:01:03,720 Speaker 1: get into the interview with her in a little bit, 22 00:01:03,760 --> 00:01:05,040 Speaker 1: and we also want to give you kind of our 23 00:01:05,080 --> 00:01:06,959 Speaker 1: final thoughts now that we've had some of the emotion 24 00:01:07,080 --> 00:01:10,800 Speaker 1: died down. You know, this is always the initial podcast 25 00:01:11,080 --> 00:01:14,760 Speaker 1: on a Monday after an emotional win. It's kind of like, 26 00:01:15,000 --> 00:01:16,880 Speaker 1: you know, it's kind of like when the players steps 27 00:01:16,880 --> 00:01:19,880 Speaker 1: to the podium and Hardball steps to the podium after again, 28 00:01:19,920 --> 00:01:22,440 Speaker 1: there's emotion that like Hardball talked about how that's the 29 00:01:22,440 --> 00:01:24,240 Speaker 1: best wain I've ever been part of, there's emotion after. 30 00:01:24,560 --> 00:01:26,560 Speaker 1: That's how we were on Monday. We were so fired up. 31 00:01:26,880 --> 00:01:28,280 Speaker 1: Now we've had a little bit of time to think 32 00:01:28,319 --> 00:01:31,920 Speaker 1: and digest. I look ahead of this game, and uh, 33 00:01:31,959 --> 00:01:34,200 Speaker 1: I think we can provide some you know, some measured, 34 00:01:34,480 --> 00:01:37,720 Speaker 1: some more measured takes on this upcoming game against the Bills. 35 00:01:37,959 --> 00:01:40,880 Speaker 1: I'll say I'll say it this way Mondays after a 36 00:01:40,920 --> 00:01:44,520 Speaker 1: win like that or a size them up Monday's, it's 37 00:01:44,560 --> 00:01:49,760 Speaker 1: just size them up, baby, here comes the second ring us. Uh. 38 00:01:49,840 --> 00:01:52,920 Speaker 1: And then as the week goes by and you start 39 00:01:52,920 --> 00:01:54,560 Speaker 1: looking at the Bills a little more in depth, and 40 00:01:54,640 --> 00:01:56,559 Speaker 1: you hear from the coaches who always like to butter 41 00:01:56,640 --> 00:01:59,400 Speaker 1: up the opposing players, then you start feeling a little 42 00:01:59,440 --> 00:02:02,600 Speaker 1: more nerve this. You know, you got bills fans striper 43 00:02:02,680 --> 00:02:04,960 Speaker 1: at you on social media. You start to feel a 44 00:02:04,960 --> 00:02:07,400 Speaker 1: little more nervous and and a little and a little 45 00:02:07,440 --> 00:02:10,720 Speaker 1: cocky at the same time, there's you know, the week 46 00:02:11,040 --> 00:02:13,480 Speaker 1: leading into a playoff game as an emotional roller coaster. 47 00:02:13,639 --> 00:02:17,120 Speaker 1: So yeah, well you're you're accust some of those latest emotions. 48 00:02:17,360 --> 00:02:19,480 Speaker 1: You're you're the king of to get nervous, like as 49 00:02:19,760 --> 00:02:23,160 Speaker 1: as I've always an emotional wreck, I'm always an emotional wreck, 50 00:02:23,320 --> 00:02:25,360 Speaker 1: as I've loved to bring up. You thought the team 51 00:02:25,360 --> 00:02:27,320 Speaker 1: was gonna lose to the Bengals in Week seventeen, So 52 00:02:27,600 --> 00:02:32,680 Speaker 1: you're not think that. I think that? So yeah, so 53 00:02:32,840 --> 00:02:36,960 Speaker 1: here you clearly are nervous going into this game. Um 54 00:02:37,160 --> 00:02:39,600 Speaker 1: so look, we have we have some fan questions. We're 55 00:02:39,600 --> 00:02:41,359 Speaker 1: gonna dive into that, but we don't want to waste 56 00:02:41,400 --> 00:02:43,079 Speaker 1: any time. We're gonna take a quick break and then 57 00:02:43,120 --> 00:02:46,480 Speaker 1: come back with our guests for this week, NBC's Michelle 58 00:02:46,520 --> 00:02:50,280 Speaker 1: de Foya. 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Well, thank 68 00:03:17,440 --> 00:03:19,600 Speaker 1: you for joining us, Michelle, and we'll start with the 69 00:03:19,720 --> 00:03:22,480 Speaker 1: obvious question here, just what's your gut kind of saying 70 00:03:22,880 --> 00:03:25,400 Speaker 1: as this big Saturday night game between the Ravens and 71 00:03:25,440 --> 00:03:28,920 Speaker 1: Bills approaches, What's what's your I feel like every broadcaster, 72 00:03:28,960 --> 00:03:31,520 Speaker 1: you know, everybody watching a fans broadcasters were all the same. 73 00:03:31,520 --> 00:03:33,399 Speaker 1: We all have kind of gut feelings. What's your gut 74 00:03:33,400 --> 00:03:36,600 Speaker 1: telling you? You want me to give you a gut 75 00:03:36,800 --> 00:03:40,640 Speaker 1: feel that then you know the audience is gonna hate 76 00:03:40,680 --> 00:03:44,480 Speaker 1: me afterwards. Well, you don't have to say who's gonna win? 77 00:03:45,160 --> 00:03:48,800 Speaker 1: Just like what you expect to see. I think, you 78 00:03:48,840 --> 00:03:53,480 Speaker 1: know what, the more preparations I've been doing, watching film, reading, um, 79 00:03:53,520 --> 00:03:55,880 Speaker 1: looking at what other people are saying about this game, 80 00:03:56,600 --> 00:04:00,640 Speaker 1: am talking to people. I honestly think this might be 81 00:04:00,680 --> 00:04:03,040 Speaker 1: the most compelling game of the weekend. I think you 82 00:04:03,160 --> 00:04:08,040 Speaker 1: have two really hot teams. You've got to completely not 83 00:04:08,160 --> 00:04:12,160 Speaker 1: completely different quarterbacks, but pretty different quarterbacks. Um, you've got 84 00:04:12,360 --> 00:04:16,279 Speaker 1: good defense, You've got wide receivers all over the joint. Um, 85 00:04:16,320 --> 00:04:19,560 Speaker 1: it's the matchups are really interesting to me, and I 86 00:04:20,600 --> 00:04:23,440 Speaker 1: expect this to be maybe one of those games that 87 00:04:23,480 --> 00:04:28,480 Speaker 1: comes down to the absolute wire. M hm, Well, if 88 00:04:28,520 --> 00:04:30,240 Speaker 1: the Ravens are gonna come out of Buffalo with a win, 89 00:04:30,400 --> 00:04:32,000 Speaker 1: I think you know, Ryan and I have spent some 90 00:04:32,040 --> 00:04:34,839 Speaker 1: time discussing all the different things and the ways this 91 00:04:34,880 --> 00:04:36,880 Speaker 1: can play out. In your mind, if the Ravens get 92 00:04:36,880 --> 00:04:38,839 Speaker 1: out of there with a win, how does this game 93 00:04:38,880 --> 00:04:43,040 Speaker 1: play out? Well, I think you know, obviously Lamar Jackson 94 00:04:43,080 --> 00:04:44,960 Speaker 1: is a big part of that, and he is he 95 00:04:45,120 --> 00:04:49,440 Speaker 1: is showing now his ability to to make really good 96 00:04:49,440 --> 00:04:52,440 Speaker 1: decisions in terms of when to run um and in 97 00:04:52,560 --> 00:04:54,320 Speaker 1: terms of you know, he's I think he's got a 98 00:04:54,360 --> 00:04:59,000 Speaker 1: better grasp now of the passing game and um, so 99 00:04:59,040 --> 00:05:01,880 Speaker 1: I think I I think that it really comes down 100 00:05:01,880 --> 00:05:04,680 Speaker 1: to that, quite honestly. But but then you can't discount 101 00:05:05,080 --> 00:05:07,640 Speaker 1: you know, Baltimore's defense and what they need to do, 102 00:05:07,680 --> 00:05:10,279 Speaker 1: and when you look at guys like Marlon Humphrey and 103 00:05:10,360 --> 00:05:13,800 Speaker 1: Chuck Clark and Marcus Peters and somehow this group is 104 00:05:13,880 --> 00:05:19,640 Speaker 1: so diverse and so effective. I think that's gonna make 105 00:05:19,960 --> 00:05:22,120 Speaker 1: it very tough sledding for Buffalo to throw the ball. 106 00:05:22,200 --> 00:05:25,520 Speaker 1: I really do. Um. So that's that's where I think 107 00:05:25,560 --> 00:05:29,039 Speaker 1: this might come down to, as those two particular components. 108 00:05:29,480 --> 00:05:33,000 Speaker 1: M Yeah, how how impressive you been just with the 109 00:05:33,000 --> 00:05:35,279 Speaker 1: way the Ravens have kind of rallied this year. You know, 110 00:05:35,279 --> 00:05:37,960 Speaker 1: there were six and five coming out of Pittsburgh and 111 00:05:38,440 --> 00:05:40,640 Speaker 1: and coming off a COVID outbreak, you know, that was 112 00:05:40,680 --> 00:05:44,080 Speaker 1: bigger than any in sports. You know, to see what 113 00:05:44,160 --> 00:05:46,640 Speaker 1: they've kind of how they've come back from that. Just 114 00:05:47,000 --> 00:05:48,760 Speaker 1: how much stronger do you feel like that makes them 115 00:05:48,760 --> 00:05:51,240 Speaker 1: as a team and your thoughts on that. You know, 116 00:05:51,279 --> 00:05:54,359 Speaker 1: they've endured, and it's really if people haven't taken the 117 00:05:54,400 --> 00:05:57,640 Speaker 1: time to kind of look across the board, like apparently 118 00:05:57,680 --> 00:06:01,640 Speaker 1: the Seahawks had zero citive tests all season, and how 119 00:06:01,720 --> 00:06:04,080 Speaker 1: is that possible? And then you look at what Baltimore 120 00:06:04,120 --> 00:06:07,640 Speaker 1: had to endure, and maybe Baltimore got through it at 121 00:06:07,640 --> 00:06:10,719 Speaker 1: the right time and they've come out of it a 122 00:06:10,760 --> 00:06:15,160 Speaker 1: little stronger. I just think you can't underestimate what one 123 00:06:15,200 --> 00:06:17,159 Speaker 1: guy's heart can mean to a team. And I know 124 00:06:17,240 --> 00:06:20,360 Speaker 1: that sounds kind of corny, but Lamar Jackson is that 125 00:06:20,440 --> 00:06:23,479 Speaker 1: guy with that kind of heart and with that kind 126 00:06:23,520 --> 00:06:27,360 Speaker 1: of effect on his teammates where they love him and 127 00:06:27,880 --> 00:06:31,520 Speaker 1: he is he has this kind of leadership that is 128 00:06:32,000 --> 00:06:34,880 Speaker 1: absolutely contagious to both sides of the ball. And I 129 00:06:34,880 --> 00:06:38,400 Speaker 1: think that design hired a quote unquote I hate this term, 130 00:06:38,440 --> 00:06:40,480 Speaker 1: but change the narrative of not being able to get 131 00:06:40,480 --> 00:06:42,599 Speaker 1: a playoff win and what they did last week could 132 00:06:42,640 --> 00:06:46,919 Speaker 1: really launch this team. Um. Look, I don't want to 133 00:06:46,920 --> 00:06:48,799 Speaker 1: give away too much, but I talked to Jim Kelly 134 00:06:48,920 --> 00:06:52,560 Speaker 1: yesterday they obviously the Hall of Fame quarterback from Buffalo, 135 00:06:52,600 --> 00:06:56,479 Speaker 1: and when I asked him about Lamar Um he had 136 00:06:56,520 --> 00:07:02,680 Speaker 1: some pretty remarkable things to say and ultimately said Baltimore 137 00:07:02,800 --> 00:07:04,400 Speaker 1: is not a team I would want to face in 138 00:07:04,440 --> 00:07:06,520 Speaker 1: the playoffs right now. He said, I never said that 139 00:07:06,560 --> 00:07:08,720 Speaker 1: when I was a player in the league, but I'm 140 00:07:08,720 --> 00:07:12,880 Speaker 1: going to say it right now, and I agree with him. Yeah. Yeah, 141 00:07:12,880 --> 00:07:14,720 Speaker 1: I mean, this team is on a role and I 142 00:07:14,720 --> 00:07:17,280 Speaker 1: feel like there is something to be said, like for 143 00:07:17,400 --> 00:07:20,840 Speaker 1: going through adversity, you know, it makes you stronger. Coming 144 00:07:20,840 --> 00:07:23,600 Speaker 1: out on the other side. What do you feel like 145 00:07:23,840 --> 00:07:26,960 Speaker 1: for Lamar? It's almost been for him in particularly like 146 00:07:27,160 --> 00:07:29,640 Speaker 1: a switch has been flipped. You know that early in 147 00:07:29,680 --> 00:07:32,280 Speaker 1: the year coming off the MVP Seas and things were 148 00:07:32,320 --> 00:07:34,120 Speaker 1: kind of tough. How have you seen him kind of 149 00:07:34,200 --> 00:07:36,720 Speaker 1: change his game? Where have you seen him improved kind 150 00:07:36,720 --> 00:07:39,480 Speaker 1: of over the second half the season. It's it's amazing, 151 00:07:39,560 --> 00:07:43,200 Speaker 1: isn't it When you track quarterbacks through their careers. How 152 00:07:43,280 --> 00:07:45,400 Speaker 1: for some guys, I mean, even for Peyton Manning, year 153 00:07:45,480 --> 00:07:48,239 Speaker 1: one was a disaster. Now Lamar hasn't had a single 154 00:07:48,320 --> 00:07:50,960 Speaker 1: disaster of a year. Uh, he could think that not 155 00:07:51,080 --> 00:07:54,200 Speaker 1: winning a playoff game makes it a disaster for him, 156 00:07:54,240 --> 00:07:58,520 Speaker 1: But you're right, and I I think I remember, I 157 00:07:58,520 --> 00:08:00,240 Speaker 1: don't know if you guys know this, but he was 158 00:08:00,280 --> 00:08:02,560 Speaker 1: on a conference call with us with the NBC Announced 159 00:08:02,600 --> 00:08:05,880 Speaker 1: crew when he found out about some of the COVID 160 00:08:05,960 --> 00:08:09,800 Speaker 1: stuff and he he was like shocked. And then it 161 00:08:09,840 --> 00:08:12,600 Speaker 1: was I think immediately after that that he found out 162 00:08:12,680 --> 00:08:15,000 Speaker 1: that he was not going to play, and we heard 163 00:08:15,040 --> 00:08:17,880 Speaker 1: that he was emotional about that. I think when you 164 00:08:18,320 --> 00:08:21,560 Speaker 1: go through something like that, that takes you to sort 165 00:08:21,560 --> 00:08:24,520 Speaker 1: of that, oh, this is a bad dream place like, really, 166 00:08:24,720 --> 00:08:27,880 Speaker 1: I'm sitting home watching my team play without me. I 167 00:08:27,920 --> 00:08:30,080 Speaker 1: can't get to the stadium, you know, those dreams we've 168 00:08:30,080 --> 00:08:32,040 Speaker 1: all had him, I can't get to the studio time, 169 00:08:32,240 --> 00:08:33,840 Speaker 1: I can't get to the game on time, and when 170 00:08:33,880 --> 00:08:36,400 Speaker 1: I get there, I can't find my microphone, all that stuff. 171 00:08:36,920 --> 00:08:40,319 Speaker 1: I think that maybe that may have been a turning 172 00:08:40,320 --> 00:08:43,160 Speaker 1: point for him. And then just the way to that, 173 00:08:43,760 --> 00:08:46,160 Speaker 1: you know, the whole coming out of the tunnel thing 174 00:08:46,240 --> 00:08:49,280 Speaker 1: and throwing that past too to Hollywood. I mean, I 175 00:08:49,280 --> 00:08:54,440 Speaker 1: think those things can change a person's outlook. I don't 176 00:08:54,520 --> 00:08:57,800 Speaker 1: think enough can be said about that. That your confidence, 177 00:08:58,120 --> 00:09:00,840 Speaker 1: even though you've always been confident, can sort of take 178 00:09:00,880 --> 00:09:04,400 Speaker 1: a new shape when something happens like that. And and 179 00:09:04,480 --> 00:09:08,360 Speaker 1: maybe maybe that's what's happened to Lamar, right, I mean 180 00:09:08,400 --> 00:09:11,160 Speaker 1: that Steelers game, the COVID game was on NBC. I mean, 181 00:09:11,160 --> 00:09:14,960 Speaker 1: you're there for that. The two teams kind of went 182 00:09:15,000 --> 00:09:16,880 Speaker 1: in different directions after that. I mean, even though the 183 00:09:16,960 --> 00:09:21,000 Speaker 1: Ravens lost that game, with all those backups, just the fight, 184 00:09:21,120 --> 00:09:24,280 Speaker 1: I feel like they showed in that game. And conversely 185 00:09:24,320 --> 00:09:26,640 Speaker 1: for the Steelers kind of they got that was a 186 00:09:26,679 --> 00:09:28,719 Speaker 1: wake up call for them. They tend to know at 187 00:09:28,760 --> 00:09:31,320 Speaker 1: that point. You know, it's it's interesting to see how 188 00:09:31,320 --> 00:09:33,680 Speaker 1: the Steelers really trailed fell off kind of after that, 189 00:09:33,679 --> 00:09:36,920 Speaker 1: and the Ravens rose out of that loss. Yeah, the Steelers, 190 00:09:37,000 --> 00:09:39,280 Speaker 1: they're an interesting case study right now. And I'm not 191 00:09:39,360 --> 00:09:42,160 Speaker 1: quite sure what to make of them, um and what happened, 192 00:09:42,160 --> 00:09:46,720 Speaker 1: But you're right, and and you know, look again, I 193 00:09:46,720 --> 00:09:50,120 Speaker 1: I hesitate to say these cliche things, but what goes 194 00:09:50,160 --> 00:09:54,240 Speaker 1: on between the ears is such an an enormous part 195 00:09:54,240 --> 00:09:57,120 Speaker 1: of this game. And yes, whether your health or not, 196 00:09:57,480 --> 00:09:59,840 Speaker 1: here's let's bring up health. By the way, you can't 197 00:10:00,040 --> 00:10:03,400 Speaker 1: restake this. If you look at the Ravens injury reports 198 00:10:03,400 --> 00:10:05,240 Speaker 1: over the course of the second half of the season 199 00:10:05,280 --> 00:10:08,840 Speaker 1: and you look at it today, they are getting healthy 200 00:10:09,120 --> 00:10:11,920 Speaker 1: at just the right time. And that should really scare 201 00:10:11,960 --> 00:10:16,240 Speaker 1: the heck out of people. Uh, because a healthy Ravens team, 202 00:10:16,320 --> 00:10:18,280 Speaker 1: it's like, you know, you're right. They gave it all 203 00:10:18,280 --> 00:10:20,200 Speaker 1: they had in that COVID we'll call it the COVID game, 204 00:10:20,520 --> 00:10:24,520 Speaker 1: and but now to be coming around and finding themselves 205 00:10:24,520 --> 00:10:26,480 Speaker 1: in this place where they really feel they have a 206 00:10:26,559 --> 00:10:31,000 Speaker 1: legit shot and people are saying they are a team 207 00:10:31,120 --> 00:10:33,800 Speaker 1: that the big Kansas City not saying they will, but 208 00:10:33,880 --> 00:10:37,320 Speaker 1: they could. M hmm, michell. One thing I think it's 209 00:10:37,360 --> 00:10:39,640 Speaker 1: interesting about what you do is you get a chance 210 00:10:39,679 --> 00:10:43,240 Speaker 1: to talk to every coach, every quarterback in your preparation 211 00:10:43,320 --> 00:10:45,200 Speaker 1: for for every game. So you spend time with Patrick 212 00:10:45,200 --> 00:10:49,080 Speaker 1: Mahomes and Aaron Rodgers and Tom Brady. I'm curious what 213 00:10:49,280 --> 00:10:52,719 Speaker 1: you make of, giving your perspective around the league, what 214 00:10:52,800 --> 00:10:55,800 Speaker 1: you think of Lamar Jackson just from a big picture 215 00:10:55,840 --> 00:10:57,800 Speaker 1: standpoint in terms of the respect that he has in 216 00:10:57,800 --> 00:10:59,840 Speaker 1: the locker room, the way that his teammates love him, 217 00:10:59,840 --> 00:11:02,080 Speaker 1: the it that he approaches the game. How does he 218 00:11:02,120 --> 00:11:04,320 Speaker 1: compare in your mind to some of those other greats 219 00:11:04,760 --> 00:11:07,320 Speaker 1: that you get a chance to spend time with. Here's 220 00:11:07,360 --> 00:11:11,360 Speaker 1: why that is a great question. Lamar is different. And 221 00:11:11,440 --> 00:11:13,560 Speaker 1: you know, look, I've talked to everyone from Brett Farve 222 00:11:13,600 --> 00:11:16,280 Speaker 1: to Peyton Manning, to Tom Brady, to Aaron Rodgers to 223 00:11:16,360 --> 00:11:20,120 Speaker 1: Drew Brees umpteen million times. Right, you get to know 224 00:11:20,240 --> 00:11:23,320 Speaker 1: these guys. You get to get the feel of, oh yeah, 225 00:11:23,360 --> 00:11:25,040 Speaker 1: you can see how this guy would have so much 226 00:11:25,080 --> 00:11:27,320 Speaker 1: presence in a huddle, or oh yeah, you can see 227 00:11:27,320 --> 00:11:31,000 Speaker 1: where he can rally his team. Lamar is different. Lamar 228 00:11:31,320 --> 00:11:35,600 Speaker 1: it seems to come from a different place. It's not 229 00:11:35,880 --> 00:11:37,959 Speaker 1: in the what he says or to how he says it. 230 00:11:38,280 --> 00:11:40,720 Speaker 1: It's more I'm right now. You guys can't see me, 231 00:11:40,720 --> 00:11:43,520 Speaker 1: but I'm pointing to my heart. He has this this 232 00:11:43,640 --> 00:11:48,920 Speaker 1: inner sanctum, if you will, of spirit and energy and 233 00:11:49,080 --> 00:11:53,040 Speaker 1: passion and drive that I think comes out in other 234 00:11:53,160 --> 00:11:56,559 Speaker 1: ways that are not as obvious, uh, to the to 235 00:11:56,720 --> 00:12:00,600 Speaker 1: the You know when you look at these other quarterbacks, um, 236 00:12:00,640 --> 00:12:05,160 Speaker 1: and I think that makes him really unique. He's been 237 00:12:05,240 --> 00:12:07,800 Speaker 1: unique from the get go, right. He's just a different 238 00:12:07,880 --> 00:12:10,520 Speaker 1: kind of quarterback, the kind that John Harbaugh said, you 239 00:12:10,559 --> 00:12:13,079 Speaker 1: know what, We're gonna build our team around him instead 240 00:12:13,120 --> 00:12:17,040 Speaker 1: of trying to make him run our team. So it's 241 00:12:17,080 --> 00:12:21,280 Speaker 1: it's um, it's the heart, it's the will, it's the passion, 242 00:12:21,600 --> 00:12:25,520 Speaker 1: it's the belief. It's stuff that you can't really see, 243 00:12:26,080 --> 00:12:28,240 Speaker 1: but it is there and you can feel it. And 244 00:12:28,280 --> 00:12:30,920 Speaker 1: I know once he gets in the huddle or the 245 00:12:30,960 --> 00:12:35,200 Speaker 1: locker room and he's around his teammates, they see it 246 00:12:35,240 --> 00:12:36,520 Speaker 1: even more than the rest of us do. I just 247 00:12:36,559 --> 00:12:39,960 Speaker 1: I just know that what do you what do you 248 00:12:39,960 --> 00:12:42,360 Speaker 1: think that first playoff win does for him to get 249 00:12:42,400 --> 00:12:45,520 Speaker 1: that monkey off his back. You know other quarterbacks, great 250 00:12:45,559 --> 00:12:48,000 Speaker 1: quarterbacks have struggled early in their career in the playoffs. 251 00:12:48,080 --> 00:12:50,360 Speaker 1: What do you think that does for Lamar? Because he's 252 00:12:50,640 --> 00:12:52,640 Speaker 1: you know, he's got a bashful about talking about it. 253 00:12:52,679 --> 00:12:54,800 Speaker 1: He's kind of just sweeps it under the rug. You 254 00:12:54,800 --> 00:12:57,960 Speaker 1: know the importance of that win. But in your experience 255 00:12:58,000 --> 00:13:00,440 Speaker 1: and seeing so many quarterbacks and talking to them, what 256 00:13:00,480 --> 00:13:02,800 Speaker 1: do you think that does to a player? I think it, 257 00:13:02,960 --> 00:13:05,080 Speaker 1: Like I said, I think it changes you. I think 258 00:13:05,120 --> 00:13:09,920 Speaker 1: those moments, like I said, confidence can be molded. You 259 00:13:09,960 --> 00:13:12,160 Speaker 1: can have all the confidence in the world and go 260 00:13:12,240 --> 00:13:16,400 Speaker 1: out and do your best every week. But the minute 261 00:13:16,400 --> 00:13:19,800 Speaker 1: you have sort of an affirmation moment like, oh, whoa, 262 00:13:20,320 --> 00:13:22,360 Speaker 1: we actually did that. I mean I knew we could, 263 00:13:22,880 --> 00:13:25,160 Speaker 1: but we actually did. In the last two years, I 264 00:13:25,240 --> 00:13:28,080 Speaker 1: knew we could, but we didn't. Now we did. Okay, 265 00:13:28,760 --> 00:13:32,360 Speaker 1: next step, folks, let's go and it just it's it's 266 00:13:32,360 --> 00:13:36,920 Speaker 1: so it's an intern inter staying phenomenon in life. But 267 00:13:37,720 --> 00:13:39,199 Speaker 1: I think it does a whole heck of a lot. 268 00:13:39,240 --> 00:13:41,680 Speaker 1: And I think that they're not the kind of team 269 00:13:41,720 --> 00:13:43,840 Speaker 1: that's gonna sort of go oh great, we didn't who 270 00:13:43,920 --> 00:13:46,319 Speaker 1: who They're the kind of team that's gonna go. We 271 00:13:46,440 --> 00:13:50,360 Speaker 1: knew we could. We did. Next opponent please, and they're 272 00:13:50,440 --> 00:13:54,560 Speaker 1: gonna be very, very ready for sure. And someone, obviously 273 00:13:54,600 --> 00:13:56,960 Speaker 1: you sets a tone on that is John Harbaugh, who 274 00:13:57,040 --> 00:13:58,400 Speaker 1: I know you've had a chance to get into over 275 00:13:58,480 --> 00:14:00,880 Speaker 1: the years. What's it like. I want to get your 276 00:14:00,880 --> 00:14:03,520 Speaker 1: perspective on him big picture, But what's it like have 277 00:14:03,640 --> 00:14:06,240 Speaker 1: an interview coach hardball? If the Ravens are losing at 278 00:14:06,280 --> 00:14:11,240 Speaker 1: halftime and he's walking off the field, how's that? You know? Look, 279 00:14:11,400 --> 00:14:14,079 Speaker 1: every coach is first of all, I'm so grateful they're 280 00:14:14,120 --> 00:14:16,199 Speaker 1: willing to even stop and give me the time of 281 00:14:16,320 --> 00:14:19,040 Speaker 1: day because it's a stressful moment for them and all 282 00:14:19,080 --> 00:14:20,840 Speaker 1: they want to do is get to the locker room. 283 00:14:21,400 --> 00:14:24,479 Speaker 1: And and I've seen John in a million different situations 284 00:14:24,840 --> 00:14:27,160 Speaker 1: and he's always made the time to stop. Yeah, there 285 00:14:27,160 --> 00:14:29,480 Speaker 1: are sometimes where you can tell it's going better than 286 00:14:29,520 --> 00:14:31,520 Speaker 1: other times. You can tell that with every coach, But 287 00:14:32,200 --> 00:14:36,560 Speaker 1: um no, he's always been very approachable to me. I've 288 00:14:36,560 --> 00:14:39,800 Speaker 1: always appreciated covering John, and um you know, he's just 289 00:14:40,640 --> 00:14:45,800 Speaker 1: he's just a guy with so much smarts and such 290 00:14:45,880 --> 00:14:50,240 Speaker 1: a huge heart. And the way he reacted to this win, 291 00:14:50,800 --> 00:14:52,880 Speaker 1: calling it maybe one of the best wins he's ever 292 00:14:53,000 --> 00:14:55,400 Speaker 1: been a part of. You know, this is a guy 293 00:14:55,440 --> 00:14:59,600 Speaker 1: that's won a super Bowl, right, it's it's uh, it's remarkable. 294 00:14:59,760 --> 00:15:03,600 Speaker 1: This team. The more I look at them guys, and 295 00:15:03,640 --> 00:15:06,960 Speaker 1: the more I look at all what's happening and the momentum, 296 00:15:07,840 --> 00:15:10,080 Speaker 1: I'd be scared of him too. I don't care where 297 00:15:10,160 --> 00:15:12,320 Speaker 1: you're plan. I'd be scared of him. I like that. 298 00:15:12,760 --> 00:15:14,480 Speaker 1: Rabo's hands will certainly be happy to hear that, no 299 00:15:14,640 --> 00:15:18,200 Speaker 1: question about it. Put a buffalo and people will throw 300 00:15:18,240 --> 00:15:21,800 Speaker 1: stuff at me. Well, we know, we know you're gonna 301 00:15:21,840 --> 00:15:24,600 Speaker 1: do Buffaloes podcast after this, and you're gonna say, hey, 302 00:15:24,680 --> 00:15:29,480 Speaker 1: those bills they're looking up me. No, No, I'm gonna 303 00:15:29,520 --> 00:15:33,400 Speaker 1: say it like I see it. I'm I'm curious, Michelle 304 00:15:33,480 --> 00:15:37,080 Speaker 1: just gotta piggyback off. That Is there any like halftime 305 00:15:37,160 --> 00:15:40,240 Speaker 1: interview or postgame interview that sticks out to you most 306 00:15:40,280 --> 00:15:43,440 Speaker 1: as most memorable, whether it's Ravens or not, as like, Wow, 307 00:15:43,600 --> 00:15:45,720 Speaker 1: that one someday when I look back on my career, 308 00:15:45,720 --> 00:15:48,760 Speaker 1: I'm gonna always remember that one. I'll tell you the 309 00:15:48,840 --> 00:15:51,360 Speaker 1: one that jumps to my mind right away, and it 310 00:15:51,520 --> 00:15:55,400 Speaker 1: is when Brett Farve joined the Vikings and they hosted 311 00:15:55,520 --> 00:15:58,480 Speaker 1: the Green Bay Packers. You know, you know, it was 312 00:15:58,520 --> 00:16:01,960 Speaker 1: at the Old Metrodome and I was doing Sunday or 313 00:16:02,000 --> 00:16:04,680 Speaker 1: excuse me, Monday Night football on on ESPN ABC at 314 00:16:04,720 --> 00:16:07,160 Speaker 1: that time, and that was my game to cover. Susi 315 00:16:07,240 --> 00:16:09,680 Speaker 1: Kulber and I alternated games, and that was my game 316 00:16:09,760 --> 00:16:12,320 Speaker 1: to cover. And I remember going into the stadium before 317 00:16:12,360 --> 00:16:15,800 Speaker 1: the game and there was a palpable sense like there 318 00:16:15,880 --> 00:16:18,640 Speaker 1: was electricity in the air. It's hard to describe it, 319 00:16:18,720 --> 00:16:20,360 Speaker 1: you know what, when you feel it like you could 320 00:16:20,400 --> 00:16:22,760 Speaker 1: cut through it with a knife. And I remember my 321 00:16:22,880 --> 00:16:25,080 Speaker 1: boss telling me before the game, Hey, if if the 322 00:16:25,160 --> 00:16:27,320 Speaker 1: Vikings win, you got as much time as you want 323 00:16:27,360 --> 00:16:30,880 Speaker 1: with Brett Farve. So, you know, naturally, from a selfish perspective, 324 00:16:30,920 --> 00:16:35,560 Speaker 1: I'm going, oh, please Vikings win, Please Vikings. And they did. 325 00:16:35,680 --> 00:16:38,080 Speaker 1: You know, he beats Aaron Rodgers. They went, Uh. That 326 00:16:38,320 --> 00:16:42,880 Speaker 1: interview is one I'll never forget because, um, that was 327 00:16:42,960 --> 00:16:46,120 Speaker 1: one of the most emotional I've ever seen Brett, even 328 00:16:46,160 --> 00:16:49,560 Speaker 1: though he tried to kind of hold it in um 329 00:16:49,960 --> 00:16:52,200 Speaker 1: and it was just it was remarkable. They did let 330 00:16:52,280 --> 00:16:54,840 Speaker 1: me go on and it was it was crazy and 331 00:16:54,920 --> 00:16:57,760 Speaker 1: the environment was crazy and the whole And I have 332 00:16:57,840 --> 00:17:01,480 Speaker 1: a photo that someone sent me of It's the back 333 00:17:01,560 --> 00:17:03,920 Speaker 1: of Brett's head, kind of the back of his jersey 334 00:17:03,960 --> 00:17:05,960 Speaker 1: in his head, and you can see me holding the 335 00:17:06,000 --> 00:17:09,520 Speaker 1: mic up to him and we are surround I don't 336 00:17:09,560 --> 00:17:12,120 Speaker 1: think I've ever been surrounded by as many camera camera 337 00:17:12,200 --> 00:17:16,720 Speaker 1: people in my life. Still, photographers, you know, videographers, whatever. 338 00:17:17,160 --> 00:17:20,040 Speaker 1: The the amount of attention to Brett on that day 339 00:17:20,200 --> 00:17:23,800 Speaker 1: and that night was insane and it was really fun 340 00:17:23,920 --> 00:17:26,560 Speaker 1: to be in the in the middle of that. That's awesome. 341 00:17:27,480 --> 00:17:29,920 Speaker 1: Similar question, did you have a Ravens game that stands out? 342 00:17:29,960 --> 00:17:32,359 Speaker 1: I I don't know. I know it was on NBC. 343 00:17:32,520 --> 00:17:34,639 Speaker 1: I can't remember if if you did the game or not, 344 00:17:34,800 --> 00:17:41,280 Speaker 1: but Tori Smith's game winner, I was it. Okay, I 345 00:17:41,320 --> 00:17:44,280 Speaker 1: know star, but that was the one stands out to you. No, 346 00:17:44,480 --> 00:17:46,600 Speaker 1: I was. Actually, I'm sorry, I'm thinking at a much 347 00:17:46,640 --> 00:17:49,240 Speaker 1: sadder note that the game where Tory Smith's brother died 348 00:17:49,320 --> 00:17:53,000 Speaker 1: and he showed up and had a great game, and 349 00:17:53,200 --> 00:17:56,080 Speaker 1: some people people were critical of the fact that we 350 00:17:56,200 --> 00:17:57,800 Speaker 1: interviewed him after the game, and we made sure and 351 00:17:57,880 --> 00:17:59,639 Speaker 1: we asked, you know, we asked the pr staff, we 352 00:17:59,680 --> 00:18:01,960 Speaker 1: asked the coach, if Tori has a game, is he 353 00:18:02,040 --> 00:18:03,800 Speaker 1: going to be willing to do this? Well, he wants 354 00:18:03,840 --> 00:18:07,320 Speaker 1: to do this, and you know, we gave him that opportunity, 355 00:18:07,400 --> 00:18:12,440 Speaker 1: and by gosh, he did it. And how he came 356 00:18:12,480 --> 00:18:16,240 Speaker 1: back from you No, he went home, came back for 357 00:18:16,320 --> 00:18:21,480 Speaker 1: the game and all of it and then performed and um, yeah, 358 00:18:21,560 --> 00:18:23,679 Speaker 1: that's the one that I remember the most because there 359 00:18:23,800 --> 00:18:26,760 Speaker 1: was it. We had to be very careful about how 360 00:18:26,840 --> 00:18:29,280 Speaker 1: we spoke to him about what we did, and the 361 00:18:29,440 --> 00:18:32,720 Speaker 1: only regret I have about that is that I wish 362 00:18:32,760 --> 00:18:36,600 Speaker 1: I had said him, if you want people to know 363 00:18:36,720 --> 00:18:38,680 Speaker 1: one thing about your brother, what is it? And I 364 00:18:38,760 --> 00:18:41,480 Speaker 1: wish we had given him the moment to sort of 365 00:18:42,160 --> 00:18:45,560 Speaker 1: tell the world who he was missing, and um, you 366 00:18:45,640 --> 00:18:47,960 Speaker 1: know it's live television. You've got we at that time, 367 00:18:48,000 --> 00:18:49,800 Speaker 1: we had two or three guys where were interviewing, and 368 00:18:49,920 --> 00:18:52,880 Speaker 1: so I didn't really have the time, but I wish 369 00:18:52,880 --> 00:18:56,959 Speaker 1: I had made the time. And so if Tori's listening anywhere, uh, 370 00:18:57,440 --> 00:18:58,960 Speaker 1: you know, I want him to know that. But that 371 00:18:59,119 --> 00:19:02,920 Speaker 1: was that was a of quite a different sort of 372 00:19:02,960 --> 00:19:06,959 Speaker 1: set of circumstances. Okay, well one more, I'm gonna put 373 00:19:07,000 --> 00:19:09,200 Speaker 1: you on the spot on this note, Who's who's the 374 00:19:09,320 --> 00:19:12,240 Speaker 1: toughest coach in the NFL to interview? Okay, so you 375 00:19:12,359 --> 00:19:16,760 Speaker 1: really think I'm gonna answer this? So you thought I 376 00:19:16,840 --> 00:19:18,240 Speaker 1: was gonna tell you who's gonna win the game, and 377 00:19:18,320 --> 00:19:19,960 Speaker 1: now you think I'm gonna tell you the toughest coach. 378 00:19:20,480 --> 00:19:22,879 Speaker 1: We gotta ask, We gotta ask the hardballs here, you know, 379 00:19:23,560 --> 00:19:28,280 Speaker 1: ask questions. I ask that question a thousand times, and 380 00:19:28,359 --> 00:19:32,560 Speaker 1: I refused it a thousand times, and uh, you know, look, 381 00:19:32,720 --> 00:19:36,480 Speaker 1: like I said earlier, I just appreciate that they're willing 382 00:19:36,520 --> 00:19:37,639 Speaker 1: to talk to me and that they don't, you know, 383 00:19:37,800 --> 00:19:39,919 Speaker 1: just go get that back out of the way. They 384 00:19:39,960 --> 00:19:42,280 Speaker 1: are really great about it. I know it's the last 385 00:19:42,320 --> 00:19:44,000 Speaker 1: thing they want to be doing in that moment. So 386 00:19:44,160 --> 00:19:47,960 Speaker 1: I don't begrudge any of them. And I'm just I'm 387 00:19:48,000 --> 00:19:50,680 Speaker 1: just I feel sometimes so fortunate to be doing what 388 00:19:50,760 --> 00:19:53,000 Speaker 1: I do, no matter how much he get beat up 389 00:19:53,000 --> 00:19:57,280 Speaker 1: at halftime by a particular coach. Yeah. On a on 390 00:19:57,400 --> 00:20:00,840 Speaker 1: a different note, you know, there's been so much Obviously 391 00:20:00,880 --> 00:20:05,600 Speaker 1: you're a trailblazer for women in broadcast journalism, in sports journalism, 392 00:20:06,359 --> 00:20:10,040 Speaker 1: there's been huge advancements made by women across the sport 393 00:20:10,119 --> 00:20:13,560 Speaker 1: you know, not only in in broadcasts or media, but 394 00:20:14,040 --> 00:20:17,400 Speaker 1: you know in refereeing and in front offices and in coaching. 395 00:20:18,000 --> 00:20:22,080 Speaker 1: You know, just what do you think UM has attributed 396 00:20:22,119 --> 00:20:23,800 Speaker 1: to that? You know, well, how is why is the 397 00:20:23,920 --> 00:20:26,480 Speaker 1: NFL finally kind of caught up in that regard? And 398 00:20:26,840 --> 00:20:29,840 Speaker 1: what advice do you have to women who aspire to 399 00:20:29,920 --> 00:20:33,520 Speaker 1: be like you? First, I don't think I'm a trailblazer 400 00:20:33,560 --> 00:20:36,080 Speaker 1: because I think people like Leslie Vissor and Robin Roberts 401 00:20:36,160 --> 00:20:38,720 Speaker 1: came before me and that they really opened the doors 402 00:20:38,800 --> 00:20:44,040 Speaker 1: there more than that, by the way, but I appreciate that. Um. Yes, Look, 403 00:20:44,600 --> 00:20:47,040 Speaker 1: this thing is organic. Right. We can go back a 404 00:20:47,119 --> 00:20:50,000 Speaker 1: hundred years and say where were women a hundred years ago? 405 00:20:50,200 --> 00:20:53,399 Speaker 1: And it was quite different two hundred years quite different. 406 00:20:55,240 --> 00:20:57,639 Speaker 1: For whatever reason, mankind has evolved at the rate that 407 00:20:57,680 --> 00:20:59,960 Speaker 1: it's evolved, and that's organic. And I'm not into four 408 00:21:00,119 --> 00:21:03,520 Speaker 1: seeing that issue. I am into saying I can do 409 00:21:03,640 --> 00:21:06,240 Speaker 1: this job as well, if not better than anyone. That's fine. 410 00:21:06,320 --> 00:21:08,480 Speaker 1: But I don't base that on my gender. I don't 411 00:21:08,520 --> 00:21:09,920 Speaker 1: base that on the fact that I'm a woman. I 412 00:21:10,000 --> 00:21:12,920 Speaker 1: base it on the work I'm uh, the amount of 413 00:21:12,960 --> 00:21:16,000 Speaker 1: work I'm willing to do and the risks I'm willing 414 00:21:16,080 --> 00:21:19,080 Speaker 1: to take. There's a great quote and it's it's it's 415 00:21:19,160 --> 00:21:21,600 Speaker 1: I'll paraphrase because they know I won't get it right. Um, 416 00:21:22,080 --> 00:21:25,879 Speaker 1: it's something like the greatest sin is to think yourself weak. 417 00:21:26,400 --> 00:21:28,840 Speaker 1: And and I feel like I want to shout that 418 00:21:28,960 --> 00:21:33,960 Speaker 1: at the rooftops because people allow themselves, men and women, 419 00:21:34,400 --> 00:21:37,480 Speaker 1: to let other people make them think that they're less 420 00:21:37,920 --> 00:21:40,960 Speaker 1: by the whatever reason. Oh you're a woman, you can't 421 00:21:41,000 --> 00:21:42,800 Speaker 1: do this, or you or you're a guy, you can't 422 00:21:42,880 --> 00:21:46,040 Speaker 1: be in fashion or whatever it is. I don't care, um, 423 00:21:46,320 --> 00:21:48,440 Speaker 1: or you know, the color of your skin, whatever it is. 424 00:21:48,760 --> 00:21:52,280 Speaker 1: It's up to the individual to say, screw you. I 425 00:21:52,400 --> 00:21:55,200 Speaker 1: know what I want to do, and I know what 426 00:21:55,280 --> 00:21:57,679 Speaker 1: I'm capable of doing, So get out the way. Um, 427 00:21:57,760 --> 00:21:59,000 Speaker 1: if you don't want to be go on the ride 428 00:21:59,000 --> 00:22:01,040 Speaker 1: with me. That's fine. I'll see later. I'm going on 429 00:22:01,160 --> 00:22:04,600 Speaker 1: my journey. And so that's what I would tell any 430 00:22:04,720 --> 00:22:07,840 Speaker 1: male or any female. Look, it was really exciting. Um 431 00:22:08,440 --> 00:22:10,840 Speaker 1: my kid, my son is a baseball player, and years 432 00:22:10,880 --> 00:22:14,600 Speaker 1: ago in little league, he had the one umpire we 433 00:22:14,800 --> 00:22:18,479 Speaker 1: always loved having was this woman and she'd show up man. 434 00:22:18,600 --> 00:22:21,000 Speaker 1: She had her own equipment, and it's we're talking little 435 00:22:21,080 --> 00:22:24,680 Speaker 1: league in a tiny town in Minnesota, Okay, And she'd 436 00:22:24,720 --> 00:22:26,400 Speaker 1: showed up and she had her gear, and she called 437 00:22:26,440 --> 00:22:29,479 Speaker 1: the best game and she cared and it mattered to her. 438 00:22:30,040 --> 00:22:32,680 Speaker 1: And the next thing we knew, she was umping games 439 00:22:32,760 --> 00:22:36,480 Speaker 1: down in springtain league in the majors and we're like 440 00:22:36,640 --> 00:22:38,159 Speaker 1: in triple and all that stuff, and we're like, this 441 00:22:38,440 --> 00:22:40,960 Speaker 1: is awesome. But we knew it wasn't just because she 442 00:22:41,160 --> 00:22:44,119 Speaker 1: was a woman. It was because she was good and 443 00:22:44,240 --> 00:22:48,680 Speaker 1: it mattered to her and she worked hard. Now, traditionally, yeah, 444 00:22:48,920 --> 00:22:52,080 Speaker 1: have men had an advantage, maybe so, But you can't 445 00:22:52,119 --> 00:22:55,800 Speaker 1: think like that. You gotta think like, I'm competing with you, 446 00:22:56,200 --> 00:22:58,520 Speaker 1: no matter if you're a male or female, or you 447 00:22:58,600 --> 00:23:01,400 Speaker 1: know your purple, I don't care, or I'm a journalist. 448 00:23:01,560 --> 00:23:03,479 Speaker 1: I'm going in this and I'm doing it because it's 449 00:23:03,520 --> 00:23:05,200 Speaker 1: what I love and I really believe I'm gonna be 450 00:23:05,240 --> 00:23:08,040 Speaker 1: good at it. And that's what you do with your life. 451 00:23:08,480 --> 00:23:14,879 Speaker 1: And anyone who thinks themselves weak needs to maybe read 452 00:23:15,160 --> 00:23:17,280 Speaker 1: the Obstacles the way by Ryan Holiday and get that 453 00:23:17,320 --> 00:23:19,800 Speaker 1: out of their minds, or just take a really good, 454 00:23:19,880 --> 00:23:22,120 Speaker 1: hard look at themselves and say Why do I think 455 00:23:22,160 --> 00:23:24,840 Speaker 1: I'm weak? Who told me that? And why am I 456 00:23:24,880 --> 00:23:30,040 Speaker 1: allowing that person to define me instead of defining myself. Look, 457 00:23:30,160 --> 00:23:32,439 Speaker 1: we got one life. You gotta take agency in your 458 00:23:32,440 --> 00:23:35,800 Speaker 1: own life and make of it what you want. No one, 459 00:23:36,119 --> 00:23:41,840 Speaker 1: not you know, a professor, the government, another, anyone in 460 00:23:41,920 --> 00:23:45,359 Speaker 1: your life, your family. They shouldn't be the ones to 461 00:23:45,440 --> 00:23:47,600 Speaker 1: stand in your way. And if they are, you better 462 00:23:47,640 --> 00:23:49,120 Speaker 1: take a good hard look in the mirror and say, 463 00:23:49,160 --> 00:23:51,240 Speaker 1: why am I letting someone else decide what I'm doing 464 00:23:51,320 --> 00:23:53,879 Speaker 1: with my life or how I'm going to proceed. Don't. 465 00:23:54,800 --> 00:23:56,560 Speaker 1: And that's that's as simple as I can put it. 466 00:23:56,960 --> 00:23:59,840 Speaker 1: M more question on that front from me is is 467 00:24:00,040 --> 00:24:02,719 Speaker 1: you expect to see more women And you know, if 468 00:24:02,760 --> 00:24:04,320 Speaker 1: we're looking at this and we're having this conversation in 469 00:24:04,359 --> 00:24:07,760 Speaker 1: fifteen twenty years, more women in coaching positions, in front 470 00:24:07,800 --> 00:24:11,440 Speaker 1: office positions for NFL teams, Yeah, definitely. I mean, look, 471 00:24:11,520 --> 00:24:15,560 Speaker 1: Charlotte Jones, Anderson has Charlotte Jones. Now, I'm sorry, she's 472 00:24:15,720 --> 00:24:18,280 Speaker 1: she's uh, Charlotte Jones. Now down with the Jerry Jones 473 00:24:18,440 --> 00:24:20,800 Speaker 1: daughter does a great job in Dallas, does just a 474 00:24:20,920 --> 00:24:22,840 Speaker 1: great job, and she's involved in a lot of different things, 475 00:24:22,880 --> 00:24:24,600 Speaker 1: and she's been out there and doing that. Now people 476 00:24:24,600 --> 00:24:27,400 Speaker 1: will say, oh, well she's Jerry's daughter. Well I know Charlotte, 477 00:24:27,680 --> 00:24:30,080 Speaker 1: and she's not just Jerry's daughter. She as smart as 478 00:24:30,080 --> 00:24:33,000 Speaker 1: a whip. She works her tail off. Um. You know, 479 00:24:33,080 --> 00:24:35,800 Speaker 1: you see other people in the league offices, in front offices. 480 00:24:35,880 --> 00:24:37,440 Speaker 1: I think you're going to see more of that. You're 481 00:24:37,640 --> 00:24:41,160 Speaker 1: you're getting spotlights on these stories now because it's it's 482 00:24:41,320 --> 00:24:44,119 Speaker 1: kind of different. It's you geek when you see a 483 00:24:44,200 --> 00:24:47,480 Speaker 1: female on a coaching staff, that is great. What I've 484 00:24:47,520 --> 00:24:49,040 Speaker 1: I've talked to a lot of them, by the way, 485 00:24:49,200 --> 00:24:51,439 Speaker 1: a lot of these women who are on the coaching staffs, 486 00:24:51,480 --> 00:24:54,960 Speaker 1: and the one thing that I found and the ones 487 00:24:55,000 --> 00:24:57,680 Speaker 1: who are really successful, is they don't really care that 488 00:24:57,760 --> 00:24:59,840 Speaker 1: they're the first. They just don't want to be the last. 489 00:25:00,320 --> 00:25:03,120 Speaker 1: And they also they're not doing it for that reason 490 00:25:03,320 --> 00:25:05,600 Speaker 1: to break the barrier. They're doing it because they love 491 00:25:05,680 --> 00:25:08,399 Speaker 1: the game and it's what they want to do. And 492 00:25:08,800 --> 00:25:11,680 Speaker 1: fortunately there have been some coaches and general managers out 493 00:25:11,720 --> 00:25:14,560 Speaker 1: there and they've brought them in and I think that 494 00:25:14,880 --> 00:25:17,520 Speaker 1: that's that's all that needs to happen. This is this 495 00:25:17,760 --> 00:25:22,680 Speaker 1: is evolving organically as it should and you know, yes, 496 00:25:22,800 --> 00:25:24,920 Speaker 1: it takes some courage. There's no doubt it takes a 497 00:25:24,920 --> 00:25:26,800 Speaker 1: little bit of courage when you're one of the very 498 00:25:26,960 --> 00:25:29,520 Speaker 1: very very very few. But I think you're just gonna 499 00:25:29,560 --> 00:25:33,800 Speaker 1: see it grow and grow and grow for sure. For sure. Well, 500 00:25:33,880 --> 00:25:35,800 Speaker 1: we certainly hope that's a case. In Michelle, we really 501 00:25:35,840 --> 00:25:39,080 Speaker 1: appreciate your time, really good insight on that and also 502 00:25:39,600 --> 00:25:42,720 Speaker 1: the game on Saturday. Listeners you can catch Michelle and 503 00:25:42,800 --> 00:25:45,879 Speaker 1: the NBC crew Saturday night a fifteen Bravens bills. We 504 00:25:45,920 --> 00:25:48,200 Speaker 1: can't wait for that game. Bundle of Michelle. It's gonna 505 00:25:48,200 --> 00:25:49,680 Speaker 1: be cold. I don't know how much now we're gonna get, 506 00:25:49,680 --> 00:25:52,879 Speaker 1: but it's gonna be chilli out there for sure. Trust me. 507 00:25:53,000 --> 00:25:57,800 Speaker 1: I might need two suitcases for this one. It's uh, well, 508 00:25:57,840 --> 00:26:03,440 Speaker 1: thank you, Michelle. All right, let's jump into the mail bag. 509 00:26:03,480 --> 00:26:06,560 Speaker 1: Great stuff, fro Michelle. Let's jump into not the mail bag? 510 00:26:06,800 --> 00:26:10,240 Speaker 1: What do we call this? Confuse it? I don't want 511 00:26:10,240 --> 00:26:12,440 Speaker 1: to confuse it with like Ravens mail Bag, which we 512 00:26:12,520 --> 00:26:14,600 Speaker 1: also do, and you should all check out the written 513 00:26:14,720 --> 00:26:18,120 Speaker 1: version of Ravens mail Bag. That's a little plug. Yes, 514 00:26:18,600 --> 00:26:22,520 Speaker 1: this is kind of different anyway, into our mailbox box 515 00:26:22,920 --> 00:26:25,960 Speaker 1: you know, sometimes people do send questions to the mail 516 00:26:26,000 --> 00:26:28,720 Speaker 1: bag through the Lounge email, which you can email us 517 00:26:28,720 --> 00:26:30,600 Speaker 1: at the Lounge at Ravens on NFL dot net. If 518 00:26:30,600 --> 00:26:32,879 Speaker 1: you are wondering how you can get your question right 519 00:26:32,920 --> 00:26:34,440 Speaker 1: on the show, go ahead and do that. This question 520 00:26:34,480 --> 00:26:36,720 Speaker 1: is from Levi. There's there's about seven questions in here, 521 00:26:36,760 --> 00:26:39,400 Speaker 1: so I'll pick a few of them. Um, because Levi 522 00:26:39,600 --> 00:26:42,320 Speaker 1: says that he's just become a Ravens fan in the 523 00:26:42,400 --> 00:26:45,080 Speaker 1: middle of this season, so I think that's a pretty 524 00:26:45,080 --> 00:26:46,520 Speaker 1: good time. I don't know exactly when he became a 525 00:26:46,600 --> 00:26:48,560 Speaker 1: Ravens fan, because if you started midway through the season, 526 00:26:48,600 --> 00:26:50,880 Speaker 1: it was a little dicey there, kind of a it's 527 00:26:50,920 --> 00:26:53,520 Speaker 1: just a good you know. I really liked when they 528 00:26:53,560 --> 00:26:58,680 Speaker 1: all got COVID, you know, jumped on board. Interesting, interesting 529 00:26:58,760 --> 00:27:00,560 Speaker 1: time to pick. But maybe it was that, maybe it 530 00:27:00,600 --> 00:27:02,840 Speaker 1: was the Browns game, you know, became a Ravens fan 531 00:27:02,880 --> 00:27:07,760 Speaker 1: after Jackson came out of locker room. So so some 532 00:27:07,840 --> 00:27:09,560 Speaker 1: of the questions, what do you think the chances are 533 00:27:09,600 --> 00:27:11,840 Speaker 1: of the Ravens winning the Super Bowl? At this point? 534 00:27:11,920 --> 00:27:17,320 Speaker 1: We'll start there. Mhm uh, I mean I can't say 535 00:27:17,359 --> 00:27:20,480 Speaker 1: that they're fifty fifty at this point really the hesitation 536 00:27:20,520 --> 00:27:22,359 Speaker 1: that I have, and I think the Ravens are certainly 537 00:27:22,440 --> 00:27:24,879 Speaker 1: talented enough to do it, but they're probably gonna have 538 00:27:24,960 --> 00:27:27,320 Speaker 1: to go through the Kansas City Chiefs, who they've lost 539 00:27:27,400 --> 00:27:31,320 Speaker 1: to three straight times with Lamar Jackson. Uh so that's 540 00:27:31,320 --> 00:27:33,600 Speaker 1: a tall older. Can they beat the Chiefs? And you know, 541 00:27:33,680 --> 00:27:36,320 Speaker 1: we talked about this. I think I think all fair 542 00:27:36,400 --> 00:27:38,720 Speaker 1: before we went on last time. Like, you know, you 543 00:27:38,880 --> 00:27:41,680 Speaker 1: you get into that game and anything can happen, you know. 544 00:27:41,840 --> 00:27:43,680 Speaker 1: I mean, like, who thought the Ravens are gonna beat 545 00:27:43,680 --> 00:27:45,680 Speaker 1: the Denver Broncos back in two thousand and twelve in 546 00:27:45,720 --> 00:27:48,640 Speaker 1: the divisional game. Not me. The Broncos smacked the Ravens 547 00:27:48,720 --> 00:27:51,080 Speaker 1: up during the regular season, just like the Chiefs smacked 548 00:27:51,080 --> 00:27:54,200 Speaker 1: the Ravens up this season. And but just to say 549 00:27:54,240 --> 00:27:56,560 Speaker 1: on that really really quick, I mean that game, I 550 00:27:56,640 --> 00:27:58,840 Speaker 1: forget what week fourteen, I mean it was late in 551 00:27:58,920 --> 00:28:04,200 Speaker 1: the season. Yeah, it was like three weeks earlier or something, right, Um, So, like, 552 00:28:05,160 --> 00:28:08,919 Speaker 1: you know, I don't feel great about the Ravens chances 553 00:28:08,960 --> 00:28:10,520 Speaker 1: of beating the Chiefs. I'm not gonna sit here and 554 00:28:10,560 --> 00:28:13,840 Speaker 1: say like, oh yeah, definite dubs, you know. Um, But 555 00:28:14,040 --> 00:28:16,399 Speaker 1: like in a one game scenario, anything can happen. The 556 00:28:16,480 --> 00:28:18,359 Speaker 1: Ravens are certainly good enough to beat the Chiefs. I 557 00:28:18,359 --> 00:28:20,560 Speaker 1: don't think the Chiefs are invincible. They haven't looked that way, 558 00:28:20,960 --> 00:28:25,200 Speaker 1: you know, certainly down the stretch this season. Um, so yeah, 559 00:28:25,240 --> 00:28:27,720 Speaker 1: I think the Ravens absolutely can win the Super Bowl. 560 00:28:27,960 --> 00:28:30,080 Speaker 1: And I think if they get to the Super Bowl, 561 00:28:30,720 --> 00:28:33,280 Speaker 1: Ravens don't lose in the Super Bowl. We just don't 562 00:28:33,320 --> 00:28:36,440 Speaker 1: do that. Plus, the a f C, the A s 563 00:28:36,480 --> 00:28:39,120 Speaker 1: C versus the NFC this year is it's a joke. 564 00:28:39,480 --> 00:28:41,840 Speaker 1: It is. The a f C has run rough shot 565 00:28:42,280 --> 00:28:44,760 Speaker 1: like it is so much better than the NFC this year. Now, 566 00:28:44,840 --> 00:28:46,880 Speaker 1: of course the Packers are great team, say it's a 567 00:28:46,920 --> 00:28:49,440 Speaker 1: great team, but I think the Ravens will be way 568 00:28:49,480 --> 00:28:52,760 Speaker 1: more battle tested than any of those teams. Sure, um, 569 00:28:53,720 --> 00:28:57,840 Speaker 1: you know, certainly understand the focusing on the Chiefs and 570 00:28:57,920 --> 00:28:59,760 Speaker 1: how it's gonna be difficult to get past them. But 571 00:29:00,160 --> 00:29:03,840 Speaker 1: I really this game this week. I know you're not 572 00:29:03,920 --> 00:29:05,640 Speaker 1: saying this is a shoe in victory. I know that's 573 00:29:05,640 --> 00:29:09,880 Speaker 1: at that point, but this one does. There's a lot 574 00:29:10,120 --> 00:29:13,240 Speaker 1: that makes you nervous about this game. Um, oh, you're 575 00:29:13,320 --> 00:29:15,760 Speaker 1: the nervous one. This week. Huh. I might be the 576 00:29:15,840 --> 00:29:18,920 Speaker 1: more nervous Nelly this week compared to you. What your 577 00:29:18,960 --> 00:29:22,120 Speaker 1: nervous level is. I don't like the I don't like 578 00:29:22,280 --> 00:29:25,920 Speaker 1: the night game in Buffalo in January. Ah, the we 579 00:29:26,160 --> 00:29:29,960 Speaker 1: it's the weather that's got you scared. That's part of it. 580 00:29:30,280 --> 00:29:33,000 Speaker 1: It makes feel I mean, I love the final drive 581 00:29:33,040 --> 00:29:34,520 Speaker 1: yesterday on whether it's gonna be a snow game, and 582 00:29:34,560 --> 00:29:36,040 Speaker 1: I just think that's fun to talk about and it's 583 00:29:36,080 --> 00:29:39,120 Speaker 1: fun as a fan to watch snow games where it's 584 00:29:39,160 --> 00:29:41,760 Speaker 1: not likely going to be a snow game. Well yeah, 585 00:29:43,080 --> 00:29:45,000 Speaker 1: game is like I feel like in quotes like we're 586 00:29:45,000 --> 00:29:47,640 Speaker 1: not talking like there's a five inches of snow on 587 00:29:47,720 --> 00:29:49,880 Speaker 1: the ground right now. It's like they're calling for a 588 00:29:49,920 --> 00:29:53,320 Speaker 1: fifty chance of a dusting that puts like maybe one 589 00:29:53,360 --> 00:29:55,840 Speaker 1: inch one to two inches of accumulation. But I think 590 00:29:55,880 --> 00:29:57,440 Speaker 1: on a field like that, you probably won't even have 591 00:29:57,520 --> 00:30:00,280 Speaker 1: accumulation on the field. Being honest. Now, I will say though, 592 00:30:01,120 --> 00:30:03,680 Speaker 1: it is kind of interesting because when I first checked it, 593 00:30:03,800 --> 00:30:07,800 Speaker 1: like on Sunday after the game, it was it was cold, 594 00:30:07,840 --> 00:30:09,800 Speaker 1: but there was at that point there was no projection 595 00:30:09,840 --> 00:30:12,720 Speaker 1: of snow. Then it became up to an inch then 596 00:30:12,840 --> 00:30:16,000 Speaker 1: have I've seen one to three inches, So it's that Wednesday. 597 00:30:16,160 --> 00:30:18,440 Speaker 1: What's it gonna be when we get to Saturday. We 598 00:30:18,520 --> 00:30:22,000 Speaker 1: can be talking one of two feet increases a little 599 00:30:22,040 --> 00:30:23,760 Speaker 1: bit each day as we get along. And then also 600 00:30:23,800 --> 00:30:25,160 Speaker 1: it's gonna be a foot of snow on the ground. 601 00:30:25,760 --> 00:30:28,760 Speaker 1: It could be like that in Buffalo. It can be unpredictable. So, um, 602 00:30:30,200 --> 00:30:34,040 Speaker 1: I don't know who the snow hurts. Slash benefits more, 603 00:30:34,440 --> 00:30:37,320 Speaker 1: to be honest, like you generally think of snow helps 604 00:30:37,600 --> 00:30:40,080 Speaker 1: a better run team, like you can run the ball 605 00:30:40,120 --> 00:30:42,560 Speaker 1: in the snow, you know, so that would favor the 606 00:30:42,680 --> 00:30:46,560 Speaker 1: ravens um But also like I feel like Josh Allen 607 00:30:46,640 --> 00:30:49,920 Speaker 1: with his arm and you know, just he's more accustomed 608 00:30:49,960 --> 00:30:52,680 Speaker 1: to it than Lamar. Like I don't know, I feel 609 00:30:52,680 --> 00:30:54,200 Speaker 1: like Josh Allen babe be able to throw in the 610 00:30:54,280 --> 00:30:57,320 Speaker 1: snow better certainly than Lamar. So I don't know who 611 00:30:57,400 --> 00:31:00,680 Speaker 1: it hurts or helps. I don't know. Yeah, I mean 612 00:31:00,760 --> 00:31:03,240 Speaker 1: I generally tend to think that it probably favors the 613 00:31:03,320 --> 00:31:06,880 Speaker 1: Bills considering the thing you're you're talking about with Alan 614 00:31:06,960 --> 00:31:09,760 Speaker 1: being able to play in bad weather and throwing snow 615 00:31:09,840 --> 00:31:12,360 Speaker 1: and they've done it before, you know, they played in 616 00:31:12,400 --> 00:31:15,120 Speaker 1: those games. So where Lamar talked this week that he's 617 00:31:15,160 --> 00:31:16,560 Speaker 1: never played in the Snow games, so I think that 618 00:31:16,680 --> 00:31:20,800 Speaker 1: experience has some benefit. UM. Speaking at Josh Allen, another 619 00:31:20,880 --> 00:31:22,880 Speaker 1: question here from Levi all part of the same email 620 00:31:23,120 --> 00:31:26,320 Speaker 1: um is that he is nervous about going up against 621 00:31:26,360 --> 00:31:29,120 Speaker 1: past heavy teams in general, So someone like Josh Allen, 622 00:31:29,200 --> 00:31:32,560 Speaker 1: will that be a problem for the Ravens. I mean, 623 00:31:32,760 --> 00:31:36,960 Speaker 1: I think that I I always like historically speaking, and 624 00:31:37,040 --> 00:31:39,160 Speaker 1: this year is no different. I do like the Ravens 625 00:31:39,200 --> 00:31:42,600 Speaker 1: going up against the team like the Titans, where their 626 00:31:42,640 --> 00:31:46,320 Speaker 1: bread and butter is established a big time running back. 627 00:31:46,360 --> 00:31:48,080 Speaker 1: I know, I know it didn't work out the last 628 00:31:48,200 --> 00:31:50,680 Speaker 1: two times they played the Titans, but I generally speaking, 629 00:31:50,760 --> 00:31:54,080 Speaker 1: I like the Ravens ability to stop the run limit, 630 00:31:54,400 --> 00:31:57,440 Speaker 1: eliminate that um and then force a run heavy team 631 00:31:57,480 --> 00:31:59,479 Speaker 1: to have to pass, which is what they did against 632 00:31:59,560 --> 00:32:03,200 Speaker 1: the Titans. Well, I think, generally speaking, yes, because you know, 633 00:32:03,360 --> 00:32:06,000 Speaker 1: teams are just more explosive throwing the ball right. When 634 00:32:06,040 --> 00:32:07,760 Speaker 1: you throw the ball really well, you can score more 635 00:32:07,920 --> 00:32:12,480 Speaker 1: points generally is how it works. But I'll say this, Look, 636 00:32:12,520 --> 00:32:15,000 Speaker 1: the Ravens have been building up this secondary over the 637 00:32:15,040 --> 00:32:18,840 Speaker 1: past three four years to be in games like this, 638 00:32:19,360 --> 00:32:22,120 Speaker 1: to win games like this, Like the Ravens have spent 639 00:32:22,280 --> 00:32:26,120 Speaker 1: the second most money on their cornerbacks in the league, right, 640 00:32:26,200 --> 00:32:29,360 Speaker 1: I mean, they have invested heavily in this secondary and 641 00:32:29,520 --> 00:32:31,240 Speaker 1: and it's going to only go up from here because 642 00:32:31,240 --> 00:32:35,360 Speaker 1: of Marlon Humphreys contract, right, and so like this, this 643 00:32:35,520 --> 00:32:37,320 Speaker 1: is what the Ravens have been building for. This is 644 00:32:37,360 --> 00:32:40,600 Speaker 1: also why they signed they traded for Yunique Inakway right 645 00:32:40,720 --> 00:32:43,200 Speaker 1: to to face a passing offense like this, like this 646 00:32:43,360 --> 00:32:45,920 Speaker 1: past offseason when they got Clays Campbell and Derek Wolfields 647 00:32:45,960 --> 00:32:48,640 Speaker 1: to stop Terrick Henry. But the past four years it's 648 00:32:48,800 --> 00:32:51,960 Speaker 1: been to stop Josh Allen and Stefan Diggs. That's what 649 00:32:52,080 --> 00:32:55,040 Speaker 1: they've been working towards. And so sure, any team with 650 00:32:55,080 --> 00:32:58,320 Speaker 1: a dangerous passing attack is scary, But if any team 651 00:32:58,400 --> 00:33:01,080 Speaker 1: is gonna be able to limit that, it's the Ravens 652 00:33:01,160 --> 00:33:04,440 Speaker 1: who have not only top end talent with guys like 653 00:33:04,480 --> 00:33:07,360 Speaker 1: Marlon Humphrey and Marcus Peters and Jimmy Smith, but death 654 00:33:07,720 --> 00:33:11,040 Speaker 1: too with Jimmy Smith with the favorite you know, all 655 00:33:11,160 --> 00:33:15,120 Speaker 1: those guys. So sure, yeah, I think it's a concern, 656 00:33:15,520 --> 00:33:17,840 Speaker 1: but I think the Ravens can handle it. I tweeted this. 657 00:33:18,040 --> 00:33:20,640 Speaker 1: I tweeted this, and Bill's fits got all salty with 658 00:33:20,760 --> 00:33:23,840 Speaker 1: me on Twitter on Twitter about this. The last time 659 00:33:23,920 --> 00:33:27,160 Speaker 1: the Ravens went up against the receiver who ended the 660 00:33:27,240 --> 00:33:33,200 Speaker 1: year leading the league in receiving yards, Okay, against Julio 661 00:33:33,360 --> 00:33:35,880 Speaker 1: Jones and the Atlanta Falcons. You know what Julio Jones 662 00:33:35,960 --> 00:33:40,760 Speaker 1: did that day against the Ravens. Two catches for eighteen yards. 663 00:33:41,200 --> 00:33:46,120 Speaker 1: That was Jimmy Smith logged down. Yeah, I mean, I 664 00:33:46,240 --> 00:33:49,200 Speaker 1: think I think that they wink and these quarterbacks, like 665 00:33:49,280 --> 00:33:51,480 Speaker 1: if you have to lock down one guy and the 666 00:33:51,520 --> 00:33:53,760 Speaker 1: Bills have more than one guy, they called easily. They 667 00:33:53,880 --> 00:33:56,239 Speaker 1: they have some depth there. But the Falcons also did. 668 00:33:56,440 --> 00:33:58,800 Speaker 1: They also had Calvin Ridley on the field and Mohamed 669 00:33:58,840 --> 00:34:00,520 Speaker 1: Sanu on the field, so it's like they had it 670 00:34:00,720 --> 00:34:03,160 Speaker 1: was a one man show. But I just think that 671 00:34:03,240 --> 00:34:05,520 Speaker 1: the Ravens, if they have to say, all right, this guy, 672 00:34:05,640 --> 00:34:09,279 Speaker 1: this wide receiver is obviously a game changer a lot 673 00:34:09,360 --> 00:34:11,279 Speaker 1: of times, they can do a very good job in 674 00:34:11,360 --> 00:34:17,759 Speaker 1: that matchup. A j Green aside, Yeah, yeah, you know. 675 00:34:17,800 --> 00:34:20,359 Speaker 1: I answer answered a question on mail Bag this week 676 00:34:20,440 --> 00:34:22,920 Speaker 1: about if the Ravens stops Stefan dagss is to win, 677 00:34:23,960 --> 00:34:26,279 Speaker 1: and I don't think it's as clear cut as that. 678 00:34:26,640 --> 00:34:30,200 Speaker 1: I like, Diggs led the NFL in receptions and receiving 679 00:34:30,280 --> 00:34:33,280 Speaker 1: yards on receiving yards a hundred and twenty six catches, 680 00:34:33,719 --> 00:34:36,359 Speaker 1: so he's obviously a study. You want to slow him down, 681 00:34:36,719 --> 00:34:39,480 Speaker 1: But I do think that it's not that simple because 682 00:34:39,520 --> 00:34:42,359 Speaker 1: they have Beasley, Alan makes place with his legs. Um, 683 00:34:42,880 --> 00:34:45,520 Speaker 1: John Brown has been hurt, didn't put up huge numbers 684 00:34:45,560 --> 00:34:47,560 Speaker 1: this year, but I mean, Ravens fans know that he can. 685 00:34:47,719 --> 00:34:49,360 Speaker 1: He can hit a big play, no question about it. 686 00:34:49,480 --> 00:34:53,359 Speaker 1: So I don't think it's My point is just they 687 00:34:53,400 --> 00:34:55,839 Speaker 1: can spread that around. And I don't think that their 688 00:34:55,880 --> 00:35:00,600 Speaker 1: offense necessarily just runs through Diggs. I think that he's 689 00:35:00,600 --> 00:35:02,880 Speaker 1: a he's a heck of a player, and I wonder, 690 00:35:03,239 --> 00:35:04,840 Speaker 1: you know, I wonder if Marlin is just going to 691 00:35:04,880 --> 00:35:09,279 Speaker 1: spend most of the time staple to him. Um, yeah, 692 00:35:09,960 --> 00:35:12,239 Speaker 1: that's probably the best matchup. I mean, Marlon has the 693 00:35:12,320 --> 00:35:15,000 Speaker 1: speed to cover room, Marlon has everything. I mean, that's 694 00:35:15,000 --> 00:35:16,319 Speaker 1: what you look. I mean that that's what you want 695 00:35:16,320 --> 00:35:18,680 Speaker 1: to playof football. This is a Pro Bowl cornerback who's 696 00:35:18,760 --> 00:35:20,440 Speaker 1: who's one of the best in the game, going up 697 00:35:20,480 --> 00:35:22,120 Speaker 1: against the Pro Bowl receiver who's one of the best 698 00:35:22,160 --> 00:35:23,680 Speaker 1: in the game. This is the type of matchup that 699 00:35:23,719 --> 00:35:25,640 Speaker 1: you want to see in the playoffs, and we'll see 700 00:35:25,640 --> 00:35:27,040 Speaker 1: who gets the better of it all. I kind of 701 00:35:27,080 --> 00:35:29,560 Speaker 1: think Cole Beasley might be the tougher matchup, Like who 702 00:35:29,640 --> 00:35:31,480 Speaker 1: covers Cole Beasley in the spot? I wish we had 703 00:35:31,520 --> 00:35:34,160 Speaker 1: Tavon Young. If he had Tavon Young against Cole, I 704 00:35:34,320 --> 00:35:36,360 Speaker 1: like that, But I don't Jimmy Smith, it's not a 705 00:35:36,680 --> 00:35:38,960 Speaker 1: great matchup. You know. Cold Beast is like this, like 706 00:35:39,680 --> 00:35:41,400 Speaker 1: just can cut on a dime kind of shift the 707 00:35:41,440 --> 00:35:44,080 Speaker 1: guy underne He's like, you know you're Julian Edelman. Yeah, 708 00:35:44,440 --> 00:35:46,520 Speaker 1: And I don't know who that matchup goes. Is that 709 00:35:46,600 --> 00:35:51,040 Speaker 1: Anthony Averitt? Anthony's yeah, that's not It's not a bad call, 710 00:35:51,520 --> 00:35:54,319 Speaker 1: you know. Anthony Averitt is actually, and I don't think 711 00:35:54,320 --> 00:35:56,360 Speaker 1: a lot of people know this, he's one of the 712 00:35:56,440 --> 00:35:58,080 Speaker 1: fastest guys on the team. If you were to go 713 00:35:58,200 --> 00:36:00,719 Speaker 1: straight line speed, he might be the fastest guy on 714 00:36:00,760 --> 00:36:04,960 Speaker 1: the team. Maybe it would be he Marlon and uh 715 00:36:05,400 --> 00:36:09,279 Speaker 1: Lamar obviously Hollywood well in Hollywood, right, yes, But but 716 00:36:09,440 --> 00:36:12,160 Speaker 1: favorite I forget exactly what his four time was, but 717 00:36:12,239 --> 00:36:13,480 Speaker 1: it was one of the best of anybody on the 718 00:36:13,520 --> 00:36:15,840 Speaker 1: team at the combine. So anyway, my my point is 719 00:36:15,920 --> 00:36:18,360 Speaker 1: just Eavorite's got some real speed, so he's kind of 720 00:36:18,400 --> 00:36:21,120 Speaker 1: a I don't know, I could see him spending some 721 00:36:21,239 --> 00:36:23,720 Speaker 1: time on Beasley because I agree with you, Jimmy Smith 722 00:36:24,040 --> 00:36:26,840 Speaker 1: is better suited to try to defend, you know, a 723 00:36:26,960 --> 00:36:30,240 Speaker 1: big time a big physical receiver like a Corey Davis 724 00:36:30,400 --> 00:36:33,359 Speaker 1: or an A J. Brown versus the small, shifty guy. 725 00:36:33,480 --> 00:36:35,840 Speaker 1: So Avorite's name to watch. All right, Let's get to 726 00:36:35,960 --> 00:36:40,120 Speaker 1: one more of the questions here from Levi Um. His 727 00:36:40,360 --> 00:36:44,160 Speaker 1: question here is I don't really agree with this one. 728 00:36:44,600 --> 00:36:46,600 Speaker 1: He says, Justin Tucker's the best kick of all time, 729 00:36:47,200 --> 00:36:49,680 Speaker 1: but why do you think his performance was lacking late 730 00:36:49,760 --> 00:36:51,400 Speaker 1: this season? Will he rebound? I mean he missed what 731 00:36:51,480 --> 00:36:54,120 Speaker 1: fifty two yard? Or come on, Levi, what are you 732 00:36:54,160 --> 00:37:03,960 Speaker 1: talking about? Jeez, LEVI, come on, man? Lacking? I was 733 00:37:04,080 --> 00:37:07,319 Speaker 1: shocked when Tucker missed it, especially in a playoff game. 734 00:37:07,800 --> 00:37:10,920 Speaker 1: But I'll take Justin Tucker over any other kicker in 735 00:37:11,000 --> 00:37:14,319 Speaker 1: the world ever, in a clutch kick in a big 736 00:37:14,360 --> 00:37:16,160 Speaker 1: time situation. The rest of the way, I don't think 737 00:37:16,200 --> 00:37:17,879 Speaker 1: he's gonna miss and he came back later that game 738 00:37:17,920 --> 00:37:22,640 Speaker 1: it hit one from fifty. Yeah. Yeah, So Tucker's fine. 739 00:37:22,920 --> 00:37:25,560 Speaker 1: Least of the Ravens concerns, no question about it. So 740 00:37:25,680 --> 00:37:27,480 Speaker 1: thank you for the questions. Levi. You can email us 741 00:37:27,520 --> 00:37:30,880 Speaker 1: at the lounge at Ravens dot NFL dot net. I 742 00:37:30,960 --> 00:37:33,400 Speaker 1: think Levin needs to take a Crown Royal water break 743 00:37:33,440 --> 00:37:38,680 Speaker 1: after complaining about Justin. Yes, that was that was well done. 744 00:37:39,120 --> 00:37:41,120 Speaker 1: You guys had a little too much Crown Royal with 745 00:37:41,200 --> 00:37:44,839 Speaker 1: that question. You need to take a Crown Royal water break. 746 00:37:44,880 --> 00:37:48,319 Speaker 1: Crown Royal wants to remind you to stay hydrated, Stay Royal, 747 00:37:48,560 --> 00:37:52,080 Speaker 1: Crown Royal Canadian whiskey. Alright, one more break and we'll 748 00:37:52,120 --> 00:37:53,759 Speaker 1: give you our final thoughts on the game coming up 749 00:37:53,760 --> 00:37:59,279 Speaker 1: against Buffalo, passionate fans, winning traditions and legendary toughness. Or 750 00:37:59,280 --> 00:38:01,560 Speaker 1: why Ram truck and Ravens football go hand to hand 751 00:38:01,960 --> 00:38:04,239 Speaker 1: when it comes to power, luxury and technology. Like an 752 00:38:04,239 --> 00:38:08,120 Speaker 1: available twelve inch you Connect touchscreen, you can't find a 753 00:38:08,200 --> 00:38:10,480 Speaker 1: better light duty or a heavy duty truck. 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Okay, the Steelers have 764 00:38:40,400 --> 00:38:44,000 Speaker 1: been eliminated. Garrett's Oh thank god that the Ravens got 765 00:38:44,040 --> 00:38:46,560 Speaker 1: past the Bengals. I know you couldn't sleep for weeks 766 00:38:46,800 --> 00:38:49,840 Speaker 1: leading into that week seventeen game against the but to 767 00:38:49,960 --> 00:38:52,160 Speaker 1: win Bengals. I know you're really nervous about that two 768 00:38:52,200 --> 00:38:55,359 Speaker 1: and fourteen team. All right, Look, I feel pretty good 769 00:38:55,400 --> 00:38:57,880 Speaker 1: about this game. I don't feel quite as good as 770 00:38:57,960 --> 00:39:00,279 Speaker 1: I did like going into Titans. You know, for the 771 00:39:00,320 --> 00:39:02,960 Speaker 1: most part, I was like, yeah, this is this is 772 00:39:03,000 --> 00:39:05,520 Speaker 1: a win. I don't feel as good about this, but 773 00:39:05,600 --> 00:39:08,359 Speaker 1: I still feel actually really good. I still feel more 774 00:39:08,400 --> 00:39:10,359 Speaker 1: confident about this game than I did the Bengel's game 775 00:39:12,640 --> 00:39:18,480 Speaker 1: is with you. I just feel like I think the 776 00:39:18,560 --> 00:39:20,880 Speaker 1: pass rush is gonna get after Josh Allen a little bit. 777 00:39:21,800 --> 00:39:23,919 Speaker 1: Like Josh Allen, you know, I could I could see 778 00:39:23,960 --> 00:39:26,359 Speaker 1: I called a sack strip. I think on Monday, I'm 779 00:39:26,400 --> 00:39:29,040 Speaker 1: still calling for that. I'm calling for at least one pick. 780 00:39:29,560 --> 00:39:32,279 Speaker 1: I think Josh Allen, he's he's had an incredible year, 781 00:39:32,840 --> 00:39:34,799 Speaker 1: but I think the Ravens could fluster him a little bit. 782 00:39:34,800 --> 00:39:36,640 Speaker 1: They did a good job in Buffalo last time, and 783 00:39:36,840 --> 00:39:38,319 Speaker 1: the wind played a factor in that, but the wind 784 00:39:38,360 --> 00:39:40,960 Speaker 1: could be a factor again this time. Like, I just 785 00:39:41,120 --> 00:39:44,120 Speaker 1: think the Ravens defense is playing really well right now, 786 00:39:44,680 --> 00:39:46,279 Speaker 1: and I think that they're going to get to him 787 00:39:46,280 --> 00:39:50,320 Speaker 1: a little bit. Multiple turnovers for Baltimore's defense and a 788 00:39:50,480 --> 00:39:54,319 Speaker 1: heavy heavy dose of the ground game running at them. 789 00:39:56,080 --> 00:39:58,520 Speaker 1: The heavy dose of the ground game is is especially 790 00:39:58,600 --> 00:40:00,400 Speaker 1: if if weather is a factor at all, it is 791 00:40:00,440 --> 00:40:02,160 Speaker 1: going to be key. That was one thing that was 792 00:40:02,239 --> 00:40:04,080 Speaker 1: kind of under the radar, the ground game show going 793 00:40:04,080 --> 00:40:06,680 Speaker 1: against Tennessee. You know, they did a good job against it. 794 00:40:06,960 --> 00:40:08,839 Speaker 1: They did. They did a good job. They really kind 795 00:40:08,880 --> 00:40:12,280 Speaker 1: of shut down j K and Gus and the numbers 796 00:40:12,640 --> 00:40:14,359 Speaker 1: end up, you know, they look they end up looking 797 00:40:14,400 --> 00:40:16,600 Speaker 1: okay when you have a fifty yard run by Lamar 798 00:40:16,840 --> 00:40:19,520 Speaker 1: and another thirty yard run by Lamar. Oh here you go. 799 00:40:19,760 --> 00:40:22,120 Speaker 1: Well if you take out the forty eight yard touchdown, 800 00:40:22,320 --> 00:40:24,840 Speaker 1: you know, but you know what j K end up 801 00:40:24,880 --> 00:40:26,840 Speaker 1: with in that game, right, But that that was that 802 00:40:26,960 --> 00:40:29,440 Speaker 1: was a scramble. That wasn't a design run. I mean 803 00:40:30,520 --> 00:40:32,839 Speaker 1: he dropped back to throw and he ran. So yes, 804 00:40:33,040 --> 00:40:36,160 Speaker 1: in terms of the Ravens design handoffs, like you know, 805 00:40:36,320 --> 00:40:38,800 Speaker 1: late in the game, they got some and some scripted 806 00:40:38,880 --> 00:40:41,000 Speaker 1: runs by Lamar. The one with Gus Edwards out in 807 00:40:41,080 --> 00:40:43,719 Speaker 1: front block that was pretty that was pretty the right, 808 00:40:43,760 --> 00:40:45,400 Speaker 1: the one in the late you know, in the Ravens 809 00:40:45,520 --> 00:40:47,520 Speaker 1: last drive to kind of seal the game was a 810 00:40:47,640 --> 00:40:50,320 Speaker 1: big time run. But yeah, the running backs didn't have 811 00:40:50,480 --> 00:40:54,200 Speaker 1: like a dynamic game. Um So I think that I 812 00:40:54,280 --> 00:40:56,600 Speaker 1: think that this is the rebound game, if you want 813 00:40:56,640 --> 00:40:58,680 Speaker 1: to call it. For the Ravens running backs, it's the 814 00:40:58,760 --> 00:41:02,680 Speaker 1: j K Gus show. And I do think that, uh, 815 00:41:03,080 --> 00:41:06,480 Speaker 1: this could be an interesting case of with the coordinators 816 00:41:07,239 --> 00:41:10,160 Speaker 1: adjusting end game. I thought Greg Roman did a really 817 00:41:10,239 --> 00:41:12,000 Speaker 1: nice job of when they went into the locker room, 818 00:41:12,000 --> 00:41:13,479 Speaker 1: they come out and they say, all right, an area 819 00:41:13,840 --> 00:41:17,000 Speaker 1: where the where the Titans are susceptible. Let's get him 820 00:41:17,000 --> 00:41:18,440 Speaker 1: out in the flat. They're doing such a good job 821 00:41:18,520 --> 00:41:20,520 Speaker 1: kind of bottling things up in the middle. Let's just 822 00:41:21,520 --> 00:41:23,600 Speaker 1: pitch it out there to pat Rickard and allow him 823 00:41:23,640 --> 00:41:24,880 Speaker 1: to go pick up a couple of first downs and 824 00:41:24,920 --> 00:41:26,719 Speaker 1: barrel people over. I thought that was a nice in 825 00:41:26,800 --> 00:41:29,640 Speaker 1: game adjustment. I think those types of things. They kind 826 00:41:29,680 --> 00:41:31,360 Speaker 1: of used the pass to set up the run in 827 00:41:31,440 --> 00:41:33,160 Speaker 1: the second half of that game when they marched down 828 00:41:33,200 --> 00:41:36,200 Speaker 1: the field, particularly Ricard. I think that those types of 829 00:41:36,239 --> 00:41:37,960 Speaker 1: in game adjustments are going to be key. I know 830 00:41:38,080 --> 00:41:40,600 Speaker 1: you talked earlier this week on the podcast about how 831 00:41:40,640 --> 00:41:43,600 Speaker 1: you think Wink Martindale will be fired up and going 832 00:41:43,640 --> 00:41:46,200 Speaker 1: up against Brian Dable, who's one of these hot head 833 00:41:46,239 --> 00:41:51,600 Speaker 1: coaching candidates. I also think that Greg Roman will It's 834 00:41:51,680 --> 00:41:54,160 Speaker 1: just gonna say that he was in Buffalo with Rex 835 00:41:54,280 --> 00:41:58,080 Speaker 1: Ryan Um and the Bills fired him after the Ravens game, 836 00:41:58,200 --> 00:41:59,839 Speaker 1: I believe. I think it was like after week one 837 00:41:59,920 --> 00:42:02,239 Speaker 1: or after week two or something. It was I think 838 00:42:02,320 --> 00:42:07,040 Speaker 1: week two, really early in the season. Um they fired him, 839 00:42:07,239 --> 00:42:11,279 Speaker 1: and I'm sure that Roman has not forgotten that and 840 00:42:11,400 --> 00:42:13,680 Speaker 1: that he's gonna be looking to put on a bit 841 00:42:13,719 --> 00:42:17,479 Speaker 1: of a display, especially going up against the Bills team 842 00:42:18,000 --> 00:42:22,680 Speaker 1: who has the MVP candidate quarterback and their coordinator at 843 00:42:22,760 --> 00:42:24,920 Speaker 1: this is one of the hot offensive coordinators. I just 844 00:42:25,040 --> 00:42:26,960 Speaker 1: think that Roman is going to be looking to put 845 00:42:27,000 --> 00:42:30,360 Speaker 1: on a bit of a show. And uh yeah, especially 846 00:42:30,360 --> 00:42:32,200 Speaker 1: because last year, I mean last year was his first 847 00:42:32,239 --> 00:42:34,120 Speaker 1: time against the Bills after getting fired, so that was 848 00:42:34,160 --> 00:42:36,720 Speaker 1: a big narrative going into that game. And the Ravens 849 00:42:36,800 --> 00:42:39,759 Speaker 1: did not exactly have a good offensive game last year 850 00:42:39,840 --> 00:42:42,840 Speaker 1: in Buffalo, and I thought kind of tried to do 851 00:42:42,960 --> 00:42:46,560 Speaker 1: too much a little bit offensively. Um and I think 852 00:42:46,600 --> 00:42:49,680 Speaker 1: that Greg's gonna want to rectify that this time. Yeah. Yeah, 853 00:42:49,880 --> 00:42:53,560 Speaker 1: So there'll be some nervous energy going into the game. 854 00:42:53,800 --> 00:42:56,160 Speaker 1: I'm not I'm not as nervous as you were going 855 00:42:56,200 --> 00:42:57,759 Speaker 1: to the Bengals game. I still think it's a win. 856 00:42:57,960 --> 00:42:59,640 Speaker 1: I still think it's a win, but I just think 857 00:42:59,680 --> 00:43:03,040 Speaker 1: it's to be You're not gonna be sitting there relaxed. 858 00:43:03,080 --> 00:43:04,960 Speaker 1: I don't think it's gonna be much relaxation over the 859 00:43:05,000 --> 00:43:07,279 Speaker 1: course of this game on Saturday night. It's gonna be 860 00:43:07,320 --> 00:43:09,480 Speaker 1: a nervous, kind of a nervous nelly over the course 861 00:43:09,480 --> 00:43:11,560 Speaker 1: of the day and of course of the night. Um, 862 00:43:11,840 --> 00:43:14,399 Speaker 1: but I do think the Ravens pull it out. Maybe 863 00:43:14,480 --> 00:43:17,719 Speaker 1: Justin Tucker gets a late field goal for our guy Levi. Ah, 864 00:43:17,800 --> 00:43:20,640 Speaker 1: there you go. Well, thanks for listening. As always, you 865 00:43:20,680 --> 00:43:23,200 Speaker 1: can read us at the lounge at Ravens dot NFL 866 00:43:23,320 --> 00:43:26,040 Speaker 1: dot net. Thanks to Michelle Tafoya for joining us today. 867 00:43:26,760 --> 00:43:29,800 Speaker 1: We're all really looking forward to that broadcast on NBC 868 00:43:30,480 --> 00:43:34,399 Speaker 1: at eight fifteen Saturday night. Don't get confused, Okay, don't 869 00:43:34,440 --> 00:43:39,040 Speaker 1: pull a Garrett like you said earlier. Saturday Night at 870 00:43:39,120 --> 00:43:42,360 Speaker 1: eight fifteen on NBC. Make sure you tune in. Thanks 871 00:43:42,440 --> 00:43:50,239 Speaker 1: for listening, and get ready for the that's me shivering too, 872 00:43:50,400 --> 00:43:53,640 Speaker 1: little chili factory, little chili factors, that chilly