1 00:00:04,080 --> 00:00:06,960 Speaker 1: Trepper, What have you observed that has stood out in 2 00:00:06,960 --> 00:00:09,680 Speaker 1: this particular postseason take us inside the game. 3 00:00:09,720 --> 00:00:13,200 Speaker 2: What do you have so a couple theories I have, 4 00:00:13,360 --> 00:00:16,800 Speaker 2: And because we have a catcher also here on the show, 5 00:00:16,800 --> 00:00:20,160 Speaker 2: I would love to get Kratz's opinion on this as well. 6 00:00:20,600 --> 00:00:23,520 Speaker 2: Something I felt when I was playing and getting ready 7 00:00:23,560 --> 00:00:26,400 Speaker 2: to pitch in a playoff game was because I was 8 00:00:26,440 --> 00:00:29,000 Speaker 2: always so forcing fastball heavy, and I threw hard and 9 00:00:29,320 --> 00:00:31,000 Speaker 2: swings and misses were a big part of my game. 10 00:00:31,240 --> 00:00:37,080 Speaker 2: There was always an understanding that fastballs like velocity beating guys. 11 00:00:37,720 --> 00:00:39,640 Speaker 2: You can't count on that near as much in the 12 00:00:39,640 --> 00:00:42,680 Speaker 2: playoffs as you can in the other season, because one 13 00:00:42,720 --> 00:00:44,919 Speaker 2: you're facing the best hitters. Usually it's better teams. But 14 00:00:44,960 --> 00:00:48,640 Speaker 2: also like the adrenaline the energy problem that a lot 15 00:00:48,680 --> 00:00:50,319 Speaker 2: of guys have, like let's just get the game over 16 00:00:50,440 --> 00:00:53,880 Speaker 2: or whatever, those situations don't come up right. Every pitch 17 00:00:53,920 --> 00:00:57,760 Speaker 2: matters so much and everyone's so dialed in that it's 18 00:00:57,800 --> 00:01:00,200 Speaker 2: just hard to get a fastball by anybody. I think 19 00:01:00,320 --> 00:01:03,400 Speaker 2: it's played out. I have some odd statistic stats. We 20 00:01:03,440 --> 00:01:06,959 Speaker 2: talked about Aaron Judge hitting the ninety nine in the playoffs. 21 00:01:06,959 --> 00:01:09,640 Speaker 2: There have been six home runs hit on pitches ninety 22 00:01:09,720 --> 00:01:13,839 Speaker 2: nine miles an arrow harder for context, during the regular season, 23 00:01:13,880 --> 00:01:16,840 Speaker 2: there was twenty three total hit in two four hundred 24 00:01:16,840 --> 00:01:19,600 Speaker 2: and thirty games. I believe that is one every one 25 00:01:19,680 --> 00:01:22,280 Speaker 2: hundred and five pointy six games. In the playoffs, it's 26 00:01:22,280 --> 00:01:25,520 Speaker 2: won every three point five games, so that rate is 27 00:01:26,120 --> 00:01:28,320 Speaker 2: a lot more. Now, of course there's about eight times 28 00:01:28,360 --> 00:01:30,280 Speaker 2: as many pitches over one hundred because we see so 29 00:01:30,319 --> 00:01:32,800 Speaker 2: many of the best pitchers. But still that doesn't really 30 00:01:32,840 --> 00:01:37,920 Speaker 2: account for it, right, So one does v low matter 31 00:01:37,959 --> 00:01:40,080 Speaker 2: as much? Or is this why we see the Lance 32 00:01:40,120 --> 00:01:43,640 Speaker 2: McCullers fifty straight curve balls or the Tommy Kinley's having 33 00:01:43,640 --> 00:01:46,160 Speaker 2: success in the playoffs because he throws sixty one straight changeups? 34 00:01:46,640 --> 00:01:50,120 Speaker 2: Is that a thing pratzy? Is that something that hitters 35 00:01:50,320 --> 00:01:52,600 Speaker 2: are aware of that like, you know, if I stay 36 00:01:52,640 --> 00:01:55,680 Speaker 2: on fastballs and I can fell off or a fight 37 00:01:55,720 --> 00:01:58,040 Speaker 2: off the breaking ball stuff, that I'm able to do 38 00:01:58,080 --> 00:02:00,840 Speaker 2: more damage because doing damage is so important. Because there's 39 00:02:00,880 --> 00:02:03,160 Speaker 2: just generally less hits in the playoffs, you're just seeing 40 00:02:03,240 --> 00:02:06,320 Speaker 2: relievers in the second inning, for sure. 41 00:02:06,600 --> 00:02:08,360 Speaker 3: I think that's I think that you're not stringing as 42 00:02:08,400 --> 00:02:11,640 Speaker 3: many hits together. I feel that. But I remember the 43 00:02:11,680 --> 00:02:14,320 Speaker 3: first postseason that I was ever involved in, I didn't 44 00:02:14,320 --> 00:02:17,560 Speaker 3: get in any games, but twenty eleven, I was with 45 00:02:17,639 --> 00:02:22,040 Speaker 3: the Phillies or playing the Cardinals, and the extra I 46 00:02:22,040 --> 00:02:26,240 Speaker 3: don't know, like extra batspeed, extra distance the ball was 47 00:02:26,280 --> 00:02:30,040 Speaker 3: going justin BP getting ready for the game. It felt 48 00:02:30,080 --> 00:02:34,040 Speaker 3: like almost like a superpower. So fast forward to twenty fourteen. 49 00:02:34,080 --> 00:02:36,160 Speaker 3: I still didn't get in any postseason games, but it 50 00:02:36,200 --> 00:02:39,840 Speaker 3: was that same feel. It feels like you can get 51 00:02:39,919 --> 00:02:43,440 Speaker 3: to so many more pitches. Why that is, like, why 52 00:02:43,480 --> 00:02:45,800 Speaker 3: you can't do that in the regular season. I don't know. 53 00:02:45,840 --> 00:02:48,960 Speaker 3: It's probably like a Key k Hernandez type of question 54 00:02:49,040 --> 00:02:52,720 Speaker 3: because he's elite, But I felt it there was nobody 55 00:02:52,760 --> 00:02:55,320 Speaker 3: that was going to get a fast ball by me. Normally, 56 00:02:55,360 --> 00:02:59,320 Speaker 3: that was my best part of my hitting abilities, was 57 00:02:59,560 --> 00:03:03,440 Speaker 3: hitting a ball, But when teams in the postseason would 58 00:03:03,480 --> 00:03:05,880 Speaker 3: throw me fastballs, it was like it didn't matter if 59 00:03:05,919 --> 00:03:07,519 Speaker 3: it was ninety seven up in the zone where I 60 00:03:07,560 --> 00:03:10,320 Speaker 3: normally couldn't handle it. I was gonna get to it. 61 00:03:10,400 --> 00:03:12,919 Speaker 3: And so I think there's something to that. I think 62 00:03:12,919 --> 00:03:15,680 Speaker 3: it's the adrenaline. I don't think you asked, is it 63 00:03:15,760 --> 00:03:18,480 Speaker 3: like a conscious effort I don't think it's a conscious effort. 64 00:03:18,280 --> 00:03:22,079 Speaker 3: I don't think guys actually understand it. Sometimes they feel it, 65 00:03:22,639 --> 00:03:24,640 Speaker 3: but I don't think they understand it. Like why am 66 00:03:24,680 --> 00:03:27,360 Speaker 3: I able to hit the ball into the upper deck 67 00:03:27,440 --> 00:03:31,800 Speaker 3: OPO MVP during the postseason and not during the regular season. 68 00:03:32,440 --> 00:03:35,320 Speaker 3: Probably because there's a little bit of adrenaline running through 69 00:03:35,400 --> 00:03:35,880 Speaker 3: your veins. 70 00:03:37,720 --> 00:03:41,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, Baseball, major League baseball. So often it comes down 71 00:03:42,000 --> 00:03:45,280 Speaker 2: to if you have energy or not. Like you just 72 00:03:45,440 --> 00:03:48,920 Speaker 2: sometimes like I have no energy today. It's it is addust. Second, 73 00:03:48,960 --> 00:03:51,320 Speaker 2: the trade headline's over, and now I just you know, 74 00:03:51,360 --> 00:03:53,680 Speaker 2: we're not going for a push yet. I just want 75 00:03:53,680 --> 00:03:55,440 Speaker 2: a nap. I just want a nap. And then in 76 00:03:55,440 --> 00:03:57,400 Speaker 2: the playoffs, you're like, I don't even I don't even 77 00:03:57,440 --> 00:04:01,040 Speaker 2: need to sleep well. We worry about when I'm dead. 78 00:04:02,280 --> 00:04:05,080 Speaker 2: So I always felt it. It seems like it plays 79 00:04:05,120 --> 00:04:08,800 Speaker 2: out in the stats, and it's interesting guys who are 80 00:04:08,880 --> 00:04:10,640 Speaker 2: leaning on their fastball are used to doing it, like 81 00:04:10,680 --> 00:04:14,520 Speaker 2: are struggling a little bit to make that adjustment. The 82 00:04:14,720 --> 00:04:19,280 Speaker 2: second thing that I thought was interesting, and I'm going 83 00:04:19,320 --> 00:04:20,800 Speaker 2: to mention the pitch clock, but I don't think it's 84 00:04:20,800 --> 00:04:22,599 Speaker 2: the actual time of the clock. I just think it's 85 00:04:22,640 --> 00:04:24,840 Speaker 2: how it's changed the pace of the game. Right, Things 86 00:04:24,839 --> 00:04:27,520 Speaker 2: get going pretty quickly. We're used to playoff games being 87 00:04:27,560 --> 00:04:30,560 Speaker 2: four and a half hours long, right, And there was 88 00:04:30,600 --> 00:04:32,679 Speaker 2: a part of that that happened in the past before 89 00:04:32,720 --> 00:04:37,000 Speaker 2: the clock, that young guys pitching in the playoffs. It's 90 00:04:37,000 --> 00:04:40,159 Speaker 2: one of those things where you have there's no way 91 00:04:40,160 --> 00:04:44,839 Speaker 2: to prepare until you're there. And a strategy for veterans, 92 00:04:44,839 --> 00:04:46,680 Speaker 2: like Tory Hunter used to tell me this too, in 93 00:04:46,760 --> 00:04:50,040 Speaker 2: a big game, a great strategy for a veteran guy 94 00:04:50,160 --> 00:04:53,880 Speaker 2: is ice that guy, like, make him starting pitcher, he's 95 00:04:53,920 --> 00:04:56,919 Speaker 2: a rookie, make him have to be dominant in the 96 00:04:56,960 --> 00:04:59,440 Speaker 2: first inning so that he starts to question whether or 97 00:04:59,440 --> 00:05:01,840 Speaker 2: not he's got it that day. Because that is amplified 98 00:05:01,839 --> 00:05:04,080 Speaker 2: ten x. Right now we have the clock. Things are 99 00:05:04,080 --> 00:05:07,839 Speaker 2: going so quickly that the strategy seems to be Hitters 100 00:05:07,839 --> 00:05:09,920 Speaker 2: are like, let's jump on him with the bats, as 101 00:05:09,920 --> 00:05:11,760 Speaker 2: opposed to icing him, slowing the game down and making 102 00:05:11,800 --> 00:05:14,360 Speaker 2: him sit out there and think we need to rattle 103 00:05:14,360 --> 00:05:16,560 Speaker 2: his confidence by string and three hits together start this game. 104 00:05:16,680 --> 00:05:18,680 Speaker 2: And so that let that snowball, because the clock is 105 00:05:18,680 --> 00:05:20,360 Speaker 2: going to keep the game going no matter what we do. 106 00:05:20,839 --> 00:05:23,279 Speaker 2: And if we can get him snowballing with the clock. 107 00:05:23,480 --> 00:05:25,279 Speaker 2: We had to get the clock to use, working our 108 00:05:25,320 --> 00:05:29,000 Speaker 2: advantage as opposed to work against us. But because there's 109 00:05:29,080 --> 00:05:33,240 Speaker 2: less hits and it's mostly pitching heavy, the best pitchers 110 00:05:33,240 --> 00:05:35,120 Speaker 2: are out there, and that's what it's been last few 111 00:05:35,160 --> 00:05:38,880 Speaker 2: years that that tends to help the pitcher out a 112 00:05:38,880 --> 00:05:40,840 Speaker 2: little bit. And I think we've seen a little bit 113 00:05:40,880 --> 00:05:43,760 Speaker 2: like the Detroit tried to jump on Gavin Williams and 114 00:05:43,920 --> 00:05:46,200 Speaker 2: it was like the first thinning with six pitches, and 115 00:05:46,240 --> 00:05:48,359 Speaker 2: now he's feeling good and he's had a very good outing. 116 00:05:48,680 --> 00:05:51,200 Speaker 2: Kir Scooball is not going to throw balls right. So 117 00:05:51,360 --> 00:05:53,440 Speaker 2: if you can try to jump on him, if he 118 00:05:53,480 --> 00:05:55,680 Speaker 2: has a less than ten pitch inning, uh oh, we 119 00:05:55,760 --> 00:05:57,400 Speaker 2: might have just set him right in. And it's going 120 00:05:57,440 --> 00:06:00,160 Speaker 2: to be hard to to string these hits together. Else 121 00:06:00,160 --> 00:06:01,320 Speaker 2: to see it on the flip side, if you get 122 00:06:01,360 --> 00:06:02,840 Speaker 2: to them, there's being a lot of run scorts. So 123 00:06:02,839 --> 00:06:04,360 Speaker 2: I feel like there's it's like a low scoring game 124 00:06:04,400 --> 00:06:06,320 Speaker 2: or really high scoring game. That's all we're getting. I 125 00:06:06,320 --> 00:06:08,800 Speaker 2: feel like that's part of it is this watching the game. 126 00:06:08,880 --> 00:06:10,120 Speaker 2: Do you guys feel this at all? 127 00:06:10,400 --> 00:06:16,920 Speaker 3: Scotti, Yeah, I definitely feel it. I definitely see see this, 128 00:06:17,480 --> 00:06:19,720 Speaker 3: and I think it's because look at the dudes that 129 00:06:19,760 --> 00:06:21,240 Speaker 3: are out on the mount. I mean, you can just 130 00:06:21,279 --> 00:06:25,440 Speaker 3: go the one night you went Garah Crochet, Max Freed, 131 00:06:26,240 --> 00:06:30,480 Speaker 3: Trek Scooble. What do they do really good besides throw strikes? 132 00:06:30,760 --> 00:06:33,880 Speaker 3: They strike dudes out. You do not want to strike out, 133 00:06:33,920 --> 00:06:36,120 Speaker 3: so you're gonna go and get your swing off on 134 00:06:36,200 --> 00:06:38,880 Speaker 3: the first few pitches, and you don't want to get 135 00:06:38,920 --> 00:06:41,320 Speaker 3: to two strikes, especially like if you're on the road. 136 00:06:41,880 --> 00:06:45,760 Speaker 3: Every postseason two strike at bat when it's a tie 137 00:06:45,760 --> 00:06:49,880 Speaker 3: ball game, fans are up, everybody's cheering. You don't want 138 00:06:49,880 --> 00:06:52,560 Speaker 3: to get in that situation. So guys are like, hey, 139 00:06:52,600 --> 00:06:54,760 Speaker 3: you know what, I'm gonna get this swing off. I'm 140 00:06:55,279 --> 00:06:58,039 Speaker 3: gonna get after this first pitch. Heater and everything's so 141 00:06:58,279 --> 00:07:01,479 Speaker 3: hard nowadays. Two. I get it that, you know, a 142 00:07:01,480 --> 00:07:04,400 Speaker 3: breaking ball is an off speed pitch, but when the 143 00:07:04,480 --> 00:07:06,599 Speaker 3: miz is out there and he's throwing a ninety four 144 00:07:06,640 --> 00:07:10,040 Speaker 3: mile hour slider, like, yeah, I'm geared up for one 145 00:07:10,120 --> 00:07:13,120 Speaker 3: hundred and four, but I'm also able to stay on 146 00:07:13,280 --> 00:07:16,680 Speaker 3: ninety four, So I'm just looking for something on the plate. 147 00:07:16,960 --> 00:07:20,200 Speaker 3: I'm not necessarily waiting to see Okay, wait till he 148 00:07:20,280 --> 00:07:22,400 Speaker 3: comes in my zone. No, I'm just trying to I'm 149 00:07:22,400 --> 00:07:24,880 Speaker 3: trying to get after it right away late in account. 150 00:07:24,880 --> 00:07:27,000 Speaker 3: Then I'm waiting for something in my zone. 151 00:07:27,600 --> 00:07:30,240 Speaker 1: This is our actual shout out here to Fox one 152 00:07:30,400 --> 00:07:32,680 Speaker 1: and the streaming app and how you can get that 153 00:07:32,720 --> 00:07:35,520 Speaker 1: app for free for seven days. Try it out and 154 00:07:35,960 --> 00:07:40,240 Speaker 1: get a little Tigers Mariners today, also Yankees and Blue 155 00:07:40,280 --> 00:07:45,320 Speaker 1: Jays at Night. Also NFL Action college Football Action that 156 00:07:45,360 --> 00:07:48,760 Speaker 1: includes Big neon Saturdays. It's all there. There's plenty of 157 00:07:48,760 --> 00:07:51,440 Speaker 1: shows to check out as well, which we'll dive into over. 158 00:07:51,320 --> 00:07:54,280 Speaker 4: The next few weeks. But Fox one is the app. 159 00:07:54,280 --> 00:07:59,320 Speaker 1: You can get more information at foxne dot com. That's 160 00:07:59,400 --> 00:08:02,480 Speaker 1: the spot it is. Trevor, You're the only one that 161 00:08:02,480 --> 00:08:04,120 Speaker 1: hasn't seen that one yet. Do you like what we 162 00:08:04,160 --> 00:08:05,600 Speaker 1: did there with the graphic? 163 00:08:06,400 --> 00:08:09,640 Speaker 2: Love it? Love it? Anytime I can look at Tom, 164 00:08:09,440 --> 00:08:10,240 Speaker 2: I'm happy. 165 00:08:10,880 --> 00:08:12,120 Speaker 4: Yes, Tom looks back. 166 00:08:12,160 --> 00:08:19,320 Speaker 1: I have jaw Wow, chiseled chiseled Tom on Sundays, Pierzinski 167 00:08:19,760 --> 00:08:24,960 Speaker 1: on many weekdays on games and Saturdays throughout the regular season. 168 00:08:27,160 --> 00:08:30,240 Speaker 1: And Trevor, this is still a dream for a starting 169 00:08:30,280 --> 00:08:33,200 Speaker 1: pitcher because you're trying to eat innings for your team, 170 00:08:33,360 --> 00:08:37,440 Speaker 1: and that's something that I root for. I mean, call 171 00:08:37,480 --> 00:08:40,720 Speaker 1: me old school, but I like to see a starter 172 00:08:40,880 --> 00:08:46,200 Speaker 1: go deep into a contest. In fact, Game three, Logan 173 00:08:46,240 --> 00:08:50,160 Speaker 1: Gilbert is pretty much dominating for the Mariners. I know 174 00:08:50,160 --> 00:08:51,800 Speaker 1: they got to him, I think in his last or 175 00:08:51,800 --> 00:08:55,200 Speaker 1: second or last inning a little bit, but I was like, damn. 176 00:08:55,400 --> 00:08:57,000 Speaker 1: I know he didn't do it much during the year, 177 00:08:57,120 --> 00:08:59,400 Speaker 1: but he's done it in the past and he's feeling 178 00:08:59,440 --> 00:09:02,600 Speaker 1: it to see them keep going. And that were early swings. 179 00:09:02,920 --> 00:09:06,320 Speaker 1: So I do think it can create these vintage starting 180 00:09:06,360 --> 00:09:10,160 Speaker 1: pitching performances that we haven't seen much of. I don't 181 00:09:10,200 --> 00:09:12,640 Speaker 1: know any math yet, but it does feel like we've 182 00:09:12,640 --> 00:09:15,720 Speaker 1: seen a little bit more of that, a little bit more, okay, 183 00:09:16,080 --> 00:09:18,079 Speaker 1: one more inning. You have to have the pitch count 184 00:09:18,120 --> 00:09:20,320 Speaker 1: in check to be able to do that, and to 185 00:09:20,400 --> 00:09:21,880 Speaker 1: have the pitch count in check, you have to have 186 00:09:21,880 --> 00:09:23,880 Speaker 1: some innings that stand out where it's like, oh, damn, 187 00:09:24,000 --> 00:09:26,400 Speaker 1: six pitch inning, nine pitch inning. There's been a few 188 00:09:26,440 --> 00:09:29,120 Speaker 1: too early on where I'll bring this one up. And again, 189 00:09:29,160 --> 00:09:31,000 Speaker 1: this is just going off what I'm what I'm seeing, 190 00:09:31,080 --> 00:09:33,640 Speaker 1: and I'm not putting specific stats to it yet, but 191 00:09:33,800 --> 00:09:36,760 Speaker 1: we've seen some first or secondings where sometimes you do 192 00:09:36,880 --> 00:09:39,600 Speaker 1: see some good takes and it's like Lozardo twenty four 193 00:09:39,640 --> 00:09:41,800 Speaker 1: pitch first, and there's been a few others, right, and 194 00:09:41,800 --> 00:09:44,480 Speaker 1: then all of a sudden you see the earlier attack 195 00:09:44,559 --> 00:09:47,120 Speaker 1: go from innings two or three through four or five, 196 00:09:47,160 --> 00:09:49,400 Speaker 1: and that enables your starter to go a little bit 197 00:09:49,480 --> 00:09:51,440 Speaker 1: deeper as well. So I've seen a little bit of 198 00:09:51,480 --> 00:09:54,040 Speaker 1: that as well, where you know you're worried about the 199 00:09:54,040 --> 00:09:56,840 Speaker 1: pitch count for the starter and you think a team 200 00:09:56,960 --> 00:09:59,400 Speaker 1: is going to grind out every app bad and be 201 00:09:59,440 --> 00:10:02,360 Speaker 1: taken a ton pitches and driving up deep counts, and 202 00:10:02,400 --> 00:10:05,160 Speaker 1: then the approach reverts to what you're talking about. 203 00:10:06,080 --> 00:10:09,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I feel like we've seen more starter handed 204 00:10:09,720 --> 00:10:12,360 Speaker 2: off to the closer this year than we did we 205 00:10:12,440 --> 00:10:17,160 Speaker 2: have lately. I think it's happened three times. Like I 206 00:10:17,160 --> 00:10:19,720 Speaker 2: think Tray Shaviage could have easily done it, but yeah, yeah, 207 00:10:19,720 --> 00:10:22,000 Speaker 2: we had Schlitler do it, we had Crochet do it, 208 00:10:22,000 --> 00:10:23,920 Speaker 2: we had Schoble do it. It's first out it so 209 00:10:24,040 --> 00:10:29,000 Speaker 2: like that's three's and Yammoto that's four, Like that's probably 210 00:10:29,320 --> 00:10:31,800 Speaker 2: I'm just guessing, and I don't think it happened very 211 00:10:31,840 --> 00:10:34,680 Speaker 2: often last year because I know, I know the Dodgers 212 00:10:34,679 --> 00:10:38,040 Speaker 2: didn't do it at all, So it's it's it's interesting 213 00:10:38,080 --> 00:10:43,000 Speaker 2: that it's both creating more of that, like where aces 214 00:10:43,040 --> 00:10:45,360 Speaker 2: are keeping their pitch count down because they're like, these 215 00:10:45,360 --> 00:10:48,040 Speaker 2: guys don't walk people and their veterans. We have to 216 00:10:48,240 --> 00:10:51,000 Speaker 2: jump on them and rattle their confidence with our bats. 217 00:10:51,200 --> 00:10:54,520 Speaker 2: And then it's not leaving as much space to let 218 00:10:54,559 --> 00:10:57,880 Speaker 2: a young guy who is where the moment might be 219 00:10:58,000 --> 00:11:01,400 Speaker 2: too big. It just feels like that isn't as good 220 00:11:01,400 --> 00:11:04,880 Speaker 2: of a strategy as much anymore that it used to be. 221 00:11:05,160 --> 00:11:08,199 Speaker 2: And I mean you can say that's good or bad, right, 222 00:11:08,400 --> 00:11:11,440 Speaker 2: who wants a five hour game that's too long? But 223 00:11:12,200 --> 00:11:14,840 Speaker 2: at the same time, like it was kind of the 224 00:11:14,840 --> 00:11:17,480 Speaker 2: games ship of the game that feels like sometimes it's 225 00:11:17,480 --> 00:11:19,200 Speaker 2: either you're gonna come out, you're going to really go 226 00:11:19,280 --> 00:11:21,920 Speaker 2: after the guy and be really aggressive, or you're going 227 00:11:22,000 --> 00:11:24,880 Speaker 2: to try to grind them out a little bit and 228 00:11:25,040 --> 00:11:27,160 Speaker 2: see if they'll put the kid themselves in trouble. And 229 00:11:27,200 --> 00:11:29,400 Speaker 2: I think we've seen that happen a couple times, you know, 230 00:11:29,440 --> 00:11:32,959 Speaker 2: with Boyd and Imanaga. Right, he got knocked around a 231 00:11:33,000 --> 00:11:34,880 Speaker 2: little bit and they were aggresive against him. So it's 232 00:11:34,880 --> 00:11:37,840 Speaker 2: worked a couple of times, but more or less pitchers 233 00:11:38,000 --> 00:11:40,360 Speaker 2: are benefiting a little bit more from this stuff. 234 00:11:40,400 --> 00:11:43,240 Speaker 1: I feel like, yeah, I mean to me, look at 235 00:11:43,240 --> 00:11:46,080 Speaker 1: twenty twenty as the prime example of pulling a pitcher 236 00:11:46,120 --> 00:11:49,000 Speaker 1: too soon and not having a feel with Blake Snell 237 00:11:49,240 --> 00:11:51,719 Speaker 1: against the Dodgers, right, and then you're like, ah, I 238 00:11:51,720 --> 00:11:53,800 Speaker 1: feel like teams are going to learn their lesson after that. 239 00:11:53,960 --> 00:11:57,200 Speaker 1: They really didn't. For the next few years, it felt 240 00:11:57,240 --> 00:12:00,560 Speaker 1: like managers couldn't wait to go to the bullpen because 241 00:12:00,679 --> 00:12:03,240 Speaker 1: of the stuff ticking up right in our sport in general, 242 00:12:03,320 --> 00:12:06,120 Speaker 1: and you're just seeing such high velocity and great stuff 243 00:12:06,120 --> 00:12:09,400 Speaker 1: out of the bullpen and the fear of facing in 244 00:12:09,559 --> 00:12:12,680 Speaker 1: order a third time through. It does feel like there's 245 00:12:12,720 --> 00:12:14,439 Speaker 1: a bit of a shift right now, Kratz. I don't 246 00:12:14,440 --> 00:12:16,800 Speaker 1: know if you feel like that, not in all of baseball, 247 00:12:16,840 --> 00:12:18,680 Speaker 1: but it does feel like there's a little bit more 248 00:12:18,720 --> 00:12:22,480 Speaker 1: trust with certain high level starters to go a little 249 00:12:22,480 --> 00:12:25,160 Speaker 1: bit deeper and to have to make that decision, especially 250 00:12:25,200 --> 00:12:27,360 Speaker 1: if you go later into a Series two and say, 251 00:12:28,080 --> 00:12:30,840 Speaker 1: how many times is the same reliever going to face 252 00:12:30,920 --> 00:12:33,200 Speaker 1: the same hitter in this spot? And when I have 253 00:12:33,240 --> 00:12:35,640 Speaker 1: a starter who's dealing right now and he's at eighty 254 00:12:35,679 --> 00:12:38,400 Speaker 1: some odd pitches, can I sneak three more outs out 255 00:12:38,400 --> 00:12:39,600 Speaker 1: of him? 256 00:12:40,280 --> 00:12:44,559 Speaker 3: Yep? But what defans want? They want the win. They 257 00:12:44,600 --> 00:12:47,800 Speaker 3: could care Honestly, I would have a hard time believing 258 00:12:47,960 --> 00:12:52,199 Speaker 3: a Red Sox fan could care less ifs if garrik 259 00:12:52,240 --> 00:12:56,079 Speaker 3: Osche goes six innings and the Red Sox win, or 260 00:12:56,120 --> 00:12:58,920 Speaker 3: if he goes eight and the Red Sox lose, they 261 00:12:59,080 --> 00:13:02,719 Speaker 3: much much rather have the w And as far as 262 00:13:02,720 --> 00:13:06,240 Speaker 3: front offices making those decisions, the only reason the Dodgers 263 00:13:06,240 --> 00:13:09,640 Speaker 3: are making these decisions is because they're basing it on 264 00:13:09,679 --> 00:13:12,439 Speaker 3: the fact that their best pitcher in the next inning 265 00:13:13,040 --> 00:13:16,480 Speaker 3: is still the starter is still Shoheo Tani is still 266 00:13:16,520 --> 00:13:23,080 Speaker 3: Blake Snell, is still Yamamoto because third time through or 267 00:13:23,160 --> 00:13:27,320 Speaker 3: not right now, their bullpen is already on their third 268 00:13:27,360 --> 00:13:30,400 Speaker 3: time through, and those guys aren't getting those outs, so 269 00:13:30,440 --> 00:13:32,679 Speaker 3: they're sticking with them. To me, I think it's the 270 00:13:32,720 --> 00:13:38,360 Speaker 3: best example of a manager and an organization really using 271 00:13:38,400 --> 00:13:41,560 Speaker 3: their eyes and watching the game, really using their eyes 272 00:13:41,559 --> 00:13:43,960 Speaker 3: and watching the game. The only reason we're talking about 273 00:13:43,960 --> 00:13:47,240 Speaker 3: Shane Bieber coming out of the game last night was 274 00:13:47,320 --> 00:13:51,280 Speaker 3: because they lost to me, it was a three run game. 275 00:13:51,880 --> 00:13:55,560 Speaker 3: You brought in your highest leverage reliever that you have 276 00:13:55,679 --> 00:13:57,640 Speaker 3: to me. I think Louis Varlin since he got rid 277 00:13:57,640 --> 00:13:59,520 Speaker 3: of the you know, he was tipping pitches when we 278 00:13:59,559 --> 00:14:02,080 Speaker 3: first got over there. Once he got rid of that, 279 00:14:02,720 --> 00:14:05,600 Speaker 3: he's been nails. He gave it up. I get it. 280 00:14:05,880 --> 00:14:08,040 Speaker 3: But you gotta go. You gotta go with you gotta 281 00:14:08,080 --> 00:14:10,880 Speaker 3: get yourself out of that jam right there. Could they 282 00:14:10,920 --> 00:14:15,240 Speaker 3: have gotten more out of Bieber? Maybe, But if you 283 00:14:15,320 --> 00:14:18,240 Speaker 3: lose with Bieber in there, you're not feeling too good 284 00:14:18,280 --> 00:14:21,920 Speaker 3: when you had some fresh arms and some good arms 285 00:14:21,960 --> 00:14:24,160 Speaker 3: in the bullpen. I don't care that today was a 286 00:14:24,200 --> 00:14:25,200 Speaker 3: bullpen day or not. 287 00:14:27,720 --> 00:14:29,760 Speaker 1: We were a homer away from a tie game in 288 00:14:29,800 --> 00:14:32,360 Speaker 1: that spot when he was removed, right it was first 289 00:14:32,400 --> 00:14:32,880 Speaker 1: and second. 290 00:14:33,600 --> 00:14:35,640 Speaker 3: That's why I say it was a good move. In 291 00:14:35,680 --> 00:14:37,680 Speaker 3: my opinion, that's a good move. They're not trying to 292 00:14:37,680 --> 00:14:39,760 Speaker 3: get the win for Shane Bieber. It's not like, oh, 293 00:14:39,920 --> 00:14:41,600 Speaker 3: keep him out there, it'd be so neat to get 294 00:14:41,640 --> 00:14:44,600 Speaker 3: the W. They're trying to get in a regular season game. 295 00:14:44,920 --> 00:14:46,440 Speaker 3: He's got to get himself out of that jam and 296 00:14:46,480 --> 00:14:50,680 Speaker 3: go five. And I think he probably does, but in 297 00:14:50,680 --> 00:14:54,000 Speaker 3: the postseason, No, that's not the time. In my opinion, 298 00:14:54,080 --> 00:14:56,880 Speaker 3: I was. I was totally on board. Even in fact, 299 00:14:57,000 --> 00:14:59,360 Speaker 3: I think they could have taken him out one one 300 00:14:59,440 --> 00:15:02,200 Speaker 3: battery four work. But it's neither here nor there. 301 00:15:03,880 --> 00:15:08,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, to me, watch Bieber Driver and watch Logan Gilbert 302 00:15:08,720 --> 00:15:10,360 Speaker 1: because you could have watched him at the same time. 303 00:15:10,560 --> 00:15:12,920 Speaker 1: And I'm just using Gilbert as my example right now 304 00:15:12,960 --> 00:15:16,440 Speaker 1: for recency. But big difference when you're watching those two 305 00:15:17,000 --> 00:15:21,040 Speaker 1: stuff wise swing and miss wise the swings with contact 306 00:15:21,040 --> 00:15:21,880 Speaker 1: that we're being made. 307 00:15:23,480 --> 00:15:26,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, you gotta you gotta run the game, you know, 308 00:15:27,120 --> 00:15:29,240 Speaker 2: by by being the vibe like how hard is the 309 00:15:29,240 --> 00:15:31,600 Speaker 2: ball being hit? Is anything being swung? It is? That? 310 00:15:31,680 --> 00:15:34,320 Speaker 2: Is that part of that guy's game? What's his what's 311 00:15:34,320 --> 00:15:36,000 Speaker 2: his cadence? Like does he look like he's trying to 312 00:15:36,000 --> 00:15:38,000 Speaker 2: slow it down because he's something's wrong? Like all this 313 00:15:38,000 --> 00:15:41,640 Speaker 2: stuff's coming into uh into play. One thing that's really interesting, 314 00:15:41,720 --> 00:15:44,680 Speaker 2: especially about Bieber, Like one thing he is notorious for 315 00:15:44,880 --> 00:15:48,360 Speaker 2: is like settling down. And I'm trying to think in 316 00:15:48,400 --> 00:15:51,000 Speaker 2: a playoff game, is there a situation where he can 317 00:15:51,240 --> 00:15:53,440 Speaker 2: like what if they're down three nothing? Right? If they 318 00:15:53,880 --> 00:15:55,840 Speaker 2: quickly score three in the first he doesn't get pulled 319 00:15:55,840 --> 00:15:58,800 Speaker 2: and then he throws would maybe he get opportunities if 320 00:15:58,800 --> 00:16:00,760 Speaker 2: it's three nothing to give come back to continue to 321 00:16:00,800 --> 00:16:03,800 Speaker 2: throw a few more innings because he is literally known 322 00:16:03,840 --> 00:16:05,680 Speaker 2: for giving up a little crooked number and then throwing 323 00:16:05,720 --> 00:16:09,800 Speaker 2: five quietly throwing five six screls after like that, that 324 00:16:09,920 --> 00:16:12,800 Speaker 2: is maybe the only way he continues. I think that 325 00:16:13,400 --> 00:16:16,400 Speaker 2: every other situation he's not getting past the fourth because 326 00:16:16,920 --> 00:16:19,120 Speaker 2: they had they were locked and loaded in the bullpen 327 00:16:19,200 --> 00:16:21,400 Speaker 2: like they were just they're ready to go. Everyone was 328 00:16:21,440 --> 00:16:23,360 Speaker 2: ready to go. So like you got to use everybody 329 00:16:23,360 --> 00:16:25,880 Speaker 2: to really slam this store on this team and complete 330 00:16:25,920 --> 00:16:27,360 Speaker 2: the sweep you don't want to get Like I said, 331 00:16:27,400 --> 00:16:29,560 Speaker 2: don't give the Yankees an ench at home. Don't do 332 00:16:29,680 --> 00:16:34,640 Speaker 2: it because they'll disappoint you. And that's what they're trying 333 00:16:34,640 --> 00:16:39,760 Speaker 2: to do, and it just didn't work. If anything anyway, Yeah, yeah, 334 00:16:40,120 --> 00:16:40,520 Speaker 2: same thing. 335 00:16:41,360 --> 00:16:43,520 Speaker 3: Aaron Nola can settle in. He can also have one 336 00:16:43,520 --> 00:16:49,160 Speaker 3: blow up inning in this moment in this season, even 337 00:16:49,160 --> 00:16:52,560 Speaker 3: if he was having a cy young type of season tonight, 338 00:16:53,560 --> 00:16:56,520 Speaker 3: facing elimination, he's not able to sell in. He has 339 00:16:56,520 --> 00:16:59,480 Speaker 3: got to be perfect, and that's a lot to ask him. 340 00:17:00,480 --> 00:17:02,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, but that's how it works. That's why it's very 341 00:17:02,920 --> 00:17:05,880 Speaker 1: different from a regular season game. This is elimination game. Sorry, 342 00:17:06,200 --> 00:17:08,960 Speaker 1: you don't get the same leash. If they're in a 343 00:17:08,960 --> 00:17:12,119 Speaker 1: spot where they think it could cost them the game even. 344 00:17:11,920 --> 00:17:15,000 Speaker 4: Close to that, they have to play desperately. 345 00:17:15,160 --> 00:17:16,960 Speaker 1: They have to to try and come back in a 346 00:17:17,000 --> 00:17:19,200 Speaker 1: spot like this, So I'll see what happens. 347 00:17:19,440 --> 00:17:22,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, Nola, he's done it before. He's been perfect, like, 348 00:17:22,560 --> 00:17:27,320 Speaker 2: he's been pretty perfect before, so it's within the realm possibility. Yep. Yeah. 349 00:17:27,359 --> 00:17:32,120 Speaker 1: I think for Philly ideally gets one nice turn through 350 00:17:32,119 --> 00:17:36,440 Speaker 1: the lineup and then as far as swings by to 351 00:17:36,480 --> 00:17:39,520 Speaker 1: take on a pocket krats, I gotta look at the lineup, 352 00:17:39,520 --> 00:17:43,200 Speaker 1: but take on some pocket. 353 00:17:42,200 --> 00:17:44,760 Speaker 4: And then ride it hopefully. 354 00:17:44,880 --> 00:17:46,920 Speaker 1: Well no, no, no, I'm saying after that, just saying, they'll 355 00:17:46,920 --> 00:17:49,520 Speaker 1: pinpoint a spot maybe where they want to try and 356 00:17:49,560 --> 00:17:52,480 Speaker 1: force stock Roberts to make some decisions and. 357 00:17:52,400 --> 00:17:55,560 Speaker 4: Then Ranger Swars could go four or five innings. 358 00:17:55,200 --> 00:17:55,640 Speaker 2: In this one. 359 00:17:55,680 --> 00:17:59,880 Speaker 1: I mean, the bullpen has not been nails for the Phillies, right, 360 00:18:00,119 --> 00:18:03,240 Speaker 1: especially the non durant pieces, like they've let them down 361 00:18:03,320 --> 00:18:05,960 Speaker 1: for the last couple of years. If I'm rob Thompson 362 00:18:06,000 --> 00:18:07,880 Speaker 1: in this spot, and I've got two starters. I mean, 363 00:18:07,920 --> 00:18:10,800 Speaker 1: I could draw up a scenario where those guys eat 364 00:18:10,880 --> 00:18:12,080 Speaker 1: most of the game up for me. 365 00:18:13,160 --> 00:18:16,359 Speaker 3: Starters to Duran, and there's some decent numbers for Ranger 366 00:18:16,400 --> 00:18:20,399 Speaker 3: Suarez versus Freddy and Mookie. So that's a that's a 367 00:18:20,480 --> 00:18:24,359 Speaker 3: scary you know I'm saying. I'm saying Nola gets through 368 00:18:24,960 --> 00:18:29,880 Speaker 3: thirteen batters. 369 00:18:28,240 --> 00:18:35,480 Speaker 1: Oh no, that's best case scenario. Okay, yeah, set the 370 00:18:35,520 --> 00:18:36,919 Speaker 1: over under for us. What do you think is the 371 00:18:36,920 --> 00:18:38,760 Speaker 1: over under app that we need? And Trevor and I 372 00:18:38,880 --> 00:18:39,960 Speaker 1: will will play the game. 373 00:18:41,119 --> 00:18:44,760 Speaker 3: Alex, I'm not sure, but but batters, I'm setting the 374 00:18:44,760 --> 00:18:51,919 Speaker 3: batters at thirteen and a half batters, assuming Freddy's hitting 375 00:18:52,359 --> 00:18:53,400 Speaker 3: third tonight. 376 00:18:55,520 --> 00:18:59,680 Speaker 1: Okay, over under Trevor, thirteen batters thirteen and a half 377 00:18:59,720 --> 00:19:03,040 Speaker 1: batter space for Nola tonight that would. 378 00:19:02,760 --> 00:19:07,720 Speaker 2: Take him to I'm assuming too, I'm gonna go under 379 00:19:08,560 --> 00:19:10,560 Speaker 2: go under, Okay. 380 00:19:11,440 --> 00:19:22,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'll take the under two. Pick your poison. Today's 381 00:19:22,040 --> 00:19:25,320 Speaker 1: team the Seattle Mariners. I'll introduce Trevor to the segment. 382 00:19:25,400 --> 00:19:28,880 Speaker 1: What we're doing is a little carousel around the league 383 00:19:28,920 --> 00:19:31,320 Speaker 1: to teams that are still involved in the postseason. Not 384 00:19:31,440 --> 00:19:34,080 Speaker 1: focusing in on any of their particular games right now. 385 00:19:34,160 --> 00:19:36,680 Speaker 1: We want this thing to last. Okay, if someone sees 386 00:19:36,720 --> 00:19:38,880 Speaker 1: this a week from now and the Mariners are still going, 387 00:19:38,920 --> 00:19:41,560 Speaker 1: they want to know, why should I be rooting for 388 00:19:41,640 --> 00:19:42,640 Speaker 1: Seattle right now? 389 00:19:42,680 --> 00:19:47,040 Speaker 4: What stands out? So there is the lack of success. 390 00:19:47,320 --> 00:19:50,439 Speaker 1: I'll just throw one easy one and then Trevor lives 391 00:19:50,520 --> 00:19:52,400 Speaker 1: in the area, so he'll give you a lot more. 392 00:19:52,480 --> 00:19:56,159 Speaker 1: But there is one team that has never made it 393 00:19:56,240 --> 00:19:58,200 Speaker 1: to a World Series, not to win a World Series, 394 00:19:58,240 --> 00:20:00,280 Speaker 1: obviously they haven't won. But one team that hasn't made 395 00:20:00,320 --> 00:20:03,679 Speaker 1: it to a World Series, Trevor, and would you believe that? 396 00:20:03,720 --> 00:20:04,960 Speaker 1: It's the Seattle Mariners. 397 00:20:06,119 --> 00:20:09,560 Speaker 2: I would believe that. Yes, I am well aware of that. 398 00:20:09,680 --> 00:20:13,120 Speaker 2: I mean, we saw there was a guy in tiers 399 00:20:13,119 --> 00:20:15,280 Speaker 2: in the in the stands and I was like, why 400 00:20:15,320 --> 00:20:16,640 Speaker 2: is that got in tears? They haven't won a home 401 00:20:16,680 --> 00:20:19,760 Speaker 2: game in twenty four years. There's been a lot of 402 00:20:19,760 --> 00:20:22,520 Speaker 2: people giving their test motus saying yeah, like they haven't 403 00:20:22,560 --> 00:20:26,240 Speaker 2: won since I was six and I'm thirty, Like it's 404 00:20:26,480 --> 00:20:28,560 Speaker 2: it's been a long time. It's been a long time. 405 00:20:28,560 --> 00:20:30,879 Speaker 2: They've never been like, we couldn't we didn't get our 406 00:20:30,880 --> 00:20:34,119 Speaker 2: hopes up yet like we had like one time to 407 00:20:34,160 --> 00:20:36,520 Speaker 2: the Alcs once I believe in guess guess who we 408 00:20:36,560 --> 00:20:38,359 Speaker 2: lost to. And I'm saying we because I grew up 409 00:20:38,359 --> 00:20:42,239 Speaker 2: Americas fan the Yankees. So like it's it's it's a 410 00:20:42,240 --> 00:20:44,960 Speaker 2: tough time. It's a tough place to be a baseball fan. 411 00:20:44,960 --> 00:20:47,000 Speaker 2: It's not necessarily a baseball hotbed one because it rains 412 00:20:47,080 --> 00:20:49,320 Speaker 2: nine once of the year up here. So we need this. 413 00:20:49,760 --> 00:20:52,400 Speaker 2: We need this. It's been a while and this team 414 00:20:52,480 --> 00:20:55,240 Speaker 2: is one of the most complete teams we've had as 415 00:20:55,280 --> 00:20:58,880 Speaker 2: far as I can remember. Like, good guys, the guy 416 00:20:58,960 --> 00:21:01,040 Speaker 2: middle lineup, the studs are are being the studs. The 417 00:21:01,080 --> 00:21:03,520 Speaker 2: pitching is the pitching. The bullpen has been great. Like 418 00:21:04,119 --> 00:21:07,080 Speaker 2: I mean, they're well poisoned, they've never been there. One 419 00:21:07,160 --> 00:21:09,639 Speaker 2: interesting thing that I think that my people at home 420 00:21:09,720 --> 00:21:12,119 Speaker 2: might find interesting that if they're able to match up 421 00:21:12,160 --> 00:21:14,479 Speaker 2: against another team, say they do move on, say they 422 00:21:14,480 --> 00:21:16,400 Speaker 2: do end up making the World Series and they get 423 00:21:16,400 --> 00:21:19,400 Speaker 2: to match up against the Brewers. Right, the Brewers also 424 00:21:19,400 --> 00:21:22,320 Speaker 2: have never won a World Series, So first of all, 425 00:21:22,359 --> 00:21:25,439 Speaker 2: we would get a winner that we'd never had before. 426 00:21:25,480 --> 00:21:28,640 Speaker 2: And two, the Brewers were originally the Seattle pilots who 427 00:21:28,640 --> 00:21:30,920 Speaker 2: were only here for from seventy to seventy one and 428 00:21:30,960 --> 00:21:32,800 Speaker 2: then moved over to Milwaukee. That's why they have the 429 00:21:32,800 --> 00:21:36,320 Speaker 2: same color scheme as the Mariners Old schools. So it 430 00:21:36,320 --> 00:21:38,639 Speaker 2: would be it would be a World Series between two 431 00:21:38,680 --> 00:21:41,000 Speaker 2: teams that started in Seattle, which I think would be 432 00:21:41,080 --> 00:21:44,800 Speaker 2: also pretty interesting and just a very Steri Lings type 433 00:21:44,800 --> 00:21:48,679 Speaker 2: of type of Tim Kirchin type of fact there. So 434 00:21:49,520 --> 00:21:51,320 Speaker 2: I mean, sometimes you just want to see a team 435 00:21:51,359 --> 00:21:52,919 Speaker 2: that's never done it before do it. I don't know, 436 00:21:53,000 --> 00:21:53,760 Speaker 2: that's fun for me. 437 00:21:54,640 --> 00:21:57,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree. I mean that's the pilot series. We'll 438 00:21:57,920 --> 00:22:01,080 Speaker 1: term it here before it happens, if it happens, but 439 00:22:01,640 --> 00:22:03,440 Speaker 1: that is the way that they'll market it. 440 00:22:03,440 --> 00:22:04,200 Speaker 4: It's a good story. 441 00:22:04,359 --> 00:22:04,520 Speaker 2: Yeah. 442 00:22:04,560 --> 00:22:07,800 Speaker 1: I mean for some fans, scrats, they feel bad for 443 00:22:07,920 --> 00:22:10,800 Speaker 1: fan bases if they have not experienced winning a World Series. 444 00:22:10,800 --> 00:22:12,119 Speaker 1: So maybe you're a fan of a team that's won 445 00:22:12,160 --> 00:22:15,600 Speaker 1: a World Series ever, and you're like, I would love 446 00:22:15,680 --> 00:22:17,520 Speaker 1: this fan base, which is a good fan base. 447 00:22:17,760 --> 00:22:18,480 Speaker 4: They have a good. 448 00:22:18,280 --> 00:22:21,119 Speaker 1: Ballpark, and they'll pack that ballpark when they get a 449 00:22:21,560 --> 00:22:23,560 Speaker 1: product that is worth packing the ballpark for. 450 00:22:24,119 --> 00:22:26,240 Speaker 4: This is a place that you can root. 451 00:22:26,080 --> 00:22:30,920 Speaker 3: For, adopt this team, adopt and Seattle. Well, everyone talks 452 00:22:30,920 --> 00:22:34,240 Speaker 3: about it raining all the time. Dude, it's so nice. 453 00:22:34,359 --> 00:22:37,160 Speaker 3: You're gonna go to an outdoor game and the roof 454 00:22:37,200 --> 00:22:39,320 Speaker 3: is going to be closed and you won't get rained on. 455 00:22:39,520 --> 00:22:43,720 Speaker 3: It's tremendous. Like everything about being a Seattle Mariners fan 456 00:22:43,880 --> 00:22:48,439 Speaker 3: for the next month is gonna suck you in. The 457 00:22:48,440 --> 00:22:50,119 Speaker 3: biggest reason I'm going to suck you in to be 458 00:22:50,160 --> 00:22:53,160 Speaker 3: a Mariners fan you get to get a jersey that's 459 00:22:53,200 --> 00:22:55,960 Speaker 3: this Big Dumper on it. Like, you get to get 460 00:22:55,960 --> 00:22:59,480 Speaker 3: the guy who everything is going right. You're going to 461 00:22:59,560 --> 00:23:02,679 Speaker 3: join a team that you get to cheer for Big Dumper, 462 00:23:02,720 --> 00:23:07,360 Speaker 3: who has done everything this year. There's no way he's 463 00:23:07,400 --> 00:23:10,800 Speaker 3: going to allow his team to lose. So you might 464 00:23:10,840 --> 00:23:14,359 Speaker 3: as well hop on the train and enjoy the ride. 465 00:23:14,440 --> 00:23:18,280 Speaker 3: Because I loved going out to Seattle. I love watching 466 00:23:18,320 --> 00:23:21,760 Speaker 3: Big Dumper hit. They have Julio Rodriguez who is a 467 00:23:21,800 --> 00:23:26,240 Speaker 3: superstar slash maybe an All Star, and they play with 468 00:23:26,359 --> 00:23:30,280 Speaker 3: so much energy and excitement with Josh Naylor at first base. 469 00:23:30,480 --> 00:23:34,480 Speaker 3: Like this team has to me. They have the grint 470 00:23:34,760 --> 00:23:36,800 Speaker 3: to make it all the way. But as a fan, 471 00:23:37,240 --> 00:23:39,920 Speaker 3: you can't not get behind this team, like they're all 472 00:23:40,040 --> 00:23:43,360 Speaker 3: a bunch of dudes where you're like, yeah, we got. 473 00:23:43,119 --> 00:23:46,280 Speaker 1: This, and I'm going to go here, trevorck because we 474 00:23:46,320 --> 00:23:48,920 Speaker 1: haven't brought it up in a while. But the fan 475 00:23:49,080 --> 00:23:55,520 Speaker 1: frustration index was sky high for the Mariners not long ago. Okay, 476 00:23:55,800 --> 00:23:57,720 Speaker 1: you had been waiting for a winning window. They went 477 00:23:57,920 --> 00:24:01,960 Speaker 1: through a rebuild. They built up a stud starting staff, 478 00:24:02,080 --> 00:24:05,719 Speaker 1: a really good farm system, and not much offense until 479 00:24:05,760 --> 00:24:08,520 Speaker 1: this year. This year they not only figured it out 480 00:24:08,840 --> 00:24:12,320 Speaker 1: and their stars were stars like Julio Rodriguez, cal Raley 481 00:24:12,400 --> 00:24:15,280 Speaker 1: did things that nobody ever could have dreamed of really 482 00:24:15,359 --> 00:24:17,679 Speaker 1: from a catcher in general. But then on top of that, 483 00:24:17,720 --> 00:24:20,719 Speaker 1: they add Naylor at the deadline, a Hennio Suarez at 484 00:24:20,720 --> 00:24:22,440 Speaker 1: the deadline. This is a team that a couple of 485 00:24:22,520 --> 00:24:25,560 Speaker 1: years ago had the famous line about just trying to 486 00:24:25,600 --> 00:24:28,359 Speaker 1: get by fifty four percent of the time and things 487 00:24:28,480 --> 00:24:31,560 Speaker 1: hopefully will go our way. So this is a long 488 00:24:31,640 --> 00:24:34,359 Speaker 1: waist from that to actually prove to your fan base 489 00:24:34,760 --> 00:24:37,800 Speaker 1: that you give a crap because there have been significant 490 00:24:37,800 --> 00:24:40,720 Speaker 1: issues there. It starts at the tippy top. Ownership didn't 491 00:24:40,760 --> 00:24:42,440 Speaker 1: do what they said they were going to do initially 492 00:24:42,440 --> 00:24:46,600 Speaker 1: in terms of spending, but Jerry Depoto with his trades, 493 00:24:46,680 --> 00:24:49,160 Speaker 1: has saved the day at the deadline to give them 494 00:24:49,200 --> 00:24:51,919 Speaker 1: a complete lineup, So I think it's worth rooting for 495 00:24:51,960 --> 00:24:54,280 Speaker 1: that as well. That is frustrated as you are right 496 00:24:54,320 --> 00:24:56,840 Speaker 1: now as a fan of a team that's not in it, 497 00:24:56,920 --> 00:24:59,680 Speaker 1: or maybe a fan that's barely ever in it pirates. 498 00:25:00,080 --> 00:25:01,719 Speaker 4: Maybe things can turn around. 499 00:25:03,080 --> 00:25:03,359 Speaker 2: Yep. 500 00:25:05,359 --> 00:25:07,360 Speaker 1: I love just worth bringing that up, wanting to throw 501 00:25:07,359 --> 00:25:08,920 Speaker 1: that out there. So anyway, if you want to root 502 00:25:08,960 --> 00:25:11,239 Speaker 1: for the Mariners, hope we convinced you. If not, then 503 00:25:11,280 --> 00:25:13,400 Speaker 1: you can check out one of our other videos where 504 00:25:13,400 --> 00:25:15,160 Speaker 1: we tell you why you should work for a team 505 00:25:15,320 --> 00:25:15,800 Speaker 1: A blank