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Speaker 1: All right, who's drunk from the trade deadline? Mentally? Yeah, hungover, hungover?

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Speaker 1: Trade deadline was drunk in a good way. Ken Rosenthal

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Speaker 1: said it was one of the most exciting trade deadlines

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Speaker 1: that he's ever covered. Really, Ken's covered a lot of them.

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Speaker 2: It has covered a lot of them.

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Speaker 1: At least a quarter century of Ken coverage.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, look, we're on TV.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, we were on yesterday and we're on

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Speaker 1: every single weekday plus shout out to the online crowd

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Speaker 1: that was watching. We had our highest numbers ever.

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Speaker 2: The trade deadline was a lot of people, but not

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Speaker 2: a lot of huge names. Korea, right, but none of

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Speaker 2: the none of the giant names. We thought our contrast.

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Speaker 1: Sees well, just starting pitching, hell pitching didn't players either, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: but there weren't many available.

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Speaker 2: No, I guess you're right.

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Speaker 1: Genoures moved, Kwan didn't didn't move one. Yeah, Korea saved

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Speaker 1: the day yesterday, did he? I don't think so.

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Speaker 2: You think he doesn't get Jason Miller saved the day.

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Speaker 1: A J. Preller saved the day, Yes, A J.

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Speaker 2: Prowler man one man day saver.

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Speaker 1: I was worried about AJ because I'm always worried about

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Speaker 1: AJ and at the start of yesterday's five and a

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Speaker 1: half hour marathon, he said he was going to have

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Speaker 1: attention span issues, and I asked him, if we got

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Speaker 1: to trade every thirty to sixty minutes of decent significance,

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Speaker 1: if that would keep him on the show, and that

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Speaker 1: was the agreement, and he stayed.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I only had to go for one. I had

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Speaker 2: to take one phone call.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and it was legit confirmed. It was legit confirmed,

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Speaker 1: It was legit. It was a source. Yes, we have sources.

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Speaker 1: Sometimes people don't realize we have sources. We've been in

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Speaker 1: the game for a long time. We say things that

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Speaker 1: sometimes are just our opinion, but often it's informed opinion.

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Speaker 1: Just throwing that out there. Sometimes people disagree with me

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Speaker 1: on things like the Mets getting Cedric Mullens got into

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Speaker 1: it with some Mets fans on YouTube, and I was like,

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Speaker 1: maybe I know something they got him. Yeah, anyway, let's

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Speaker 1: recap and then later we're gonna go over trade grades.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna talk about Nightingale. Later, we're still doing a

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Speaker 1: full fledged trade deadline hangover show coming your way. About

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Speaker 1: one hundred prospects we're dealt think about fifty trades there's

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Speaker 1: a lot to get to. Let's charge.

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Speaker 2: About.

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Speaker 1: This is just overall takeaways from what you saw. You

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Speaker 1: know who, this was past the show. You know who

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Speaker 1: got a little extra cash. Jordan Montgomery trade bonus.

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Speaker 2: So I don't understand. So did did Diamondbacks just eat

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Speaker 2: his money just to get him out of the clubhouse?

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Speaker 2: What it means he really even around? I don't know.

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Speaker 1: But he's not pitching, and I know he's a free agent.

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Speaker 2: So why would the Brewers take on a salary.

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Speaker 1: As part of the deal to get Shelby Miller?

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Speaker 2: So they just took on twenty million? What's Jordan Montgomery, Macon,

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Speaker 2: He's making a lot. It doesn't make sense to me.

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Speaker 2: Why would the Brewers do that. They wanted Shelby Miller

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Speaker 2: that bad? They take on that money not get a player.

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Speaker 1: No, I'm sure that they ate most of the money

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Speaker 1: the diamond Back probably right Krats probably, yes, yeah, yes,

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Speaker 1: the Brewers don't take on money like that, And I.

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Speaker 3: Think the Brewers, I think the Brewers took on the

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Speaker 3: rest of Shelby Miller's money. I have no idea what

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Speaker 3: it is, but that's where I think it can't be there.

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Speaker 3: Probably it can't be much. But I also think they

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Speaker 3: could Scott and I were talking about before the show.

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Speaker 3: I think it could be like a Big WU situation. Money. Hey,

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Speaker 3: we've rehabbed this, We've done this with Wade Miley, we

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Speaker 3: See how your recovery's coming. We'll rehab you through this

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Speaker 1: I think that's smart. Yeah, you got a first hand

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Speaker 2: It was a it was a person did not want

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Speaker 1: It's not like he's bad guy. They just had beef

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Speaker 1: and the owner was not pleased with how things worked out.

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Speaker 1: It's his team, so he gets to do what he wants.

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Speaker 1: I give credit to the Padres ownership group for letting

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Speaker 1: aj Preller cook. Now he wasn't given a lot of

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Speaker 1: leeway with adding money. Yeah, but still, I mean he

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Speaker 1: twenty two prospects traded away by AJ Preller and Crafts.

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Speaker 1: I can see by your face expression you're freaking out.

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Speaker 1: Are you going to tell me how most of these

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Speaker 2: Yes, they didn't. They didn't cost anything. You think the

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Speaker 3: That's there right now, I don't know how invested they

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Speaker 3: are or the executor of the state is invested. Do

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Speaker 3: keeps replenishing and keeps additional way do you think they care?

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Speaker 1: Like? Oh, man, I can't.

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Speaker 2: Believe you think they do. You think that executor of

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Speaker 1: So this is actually a good inside baseball moment. We

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Speaker 1: have been critical of certain front offices that don't push

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Speaker 1: front offices later. But let's not act like they're the

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Speaker 1: loan actors. Everything is done by one control person on

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Speaker 1: as well. Krats. Now they get advice from their front

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Speaker 1: because ultimately it's their team. And they can say, hey,

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Speaker 1: of the Red Sox, and I understand you're saying the

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Speaker 1: but history tells me no, So I'm going to disagree

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Speaker 1: have to be on the same page to an extent.

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Speaker 1: And Padre's ownership said, yeah, you know what you're doing.

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Speaker 1: You've done a great job of developing prospects, you deal

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Speaker 3: Okay, that's fair because of one prospect that he kept

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Speaker 3: Rookie of the Year Jackson Merrill, or could have been

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Speaker 3: Rookie of the Year Jackson Merril.

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Speaker 1: Right, he kept a potential star. M traded away a

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Speaker 2: Around, because they can we put that board up there again?

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Speaker 2: How many? How many prospects do they trade away?

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Speaker 1: But can we put the board with twenty two?

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Speaker 2: Okay? And how many can we put the board up

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Speaker 2: of who they who they got got back? Let's count

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Speaker 2: those guys and read them out. Was it eight guys

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Speaker 2: that got back seven seven, seven, seven bonafied big league

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Speaker 2: but the rest of those guys, Audios Mucucco's from a

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Speaker 2: player on the Potters, I'm like, Audios Mucucco's chuaas, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: Audios chihuahuas. See later, we got Mason Miller, Sears, O'Hearn.

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Speaker 3: Loriano controllable guys, yeah, controssidesharn and I have no herd

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Speaker 3: what the Patters did, and they traded their one, three, seven,

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Speaker 3: nine to twelve, then poss no team has thirty prospects.

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Speaker 2: Okay, let's get serious. No team has thirty.

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Speaker 1: PCs and their farm system did not rank.

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Speaker 2: I mean, okay, the Devrize kid. And then what two

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Speaker 2: I'm assuming was Ethan Salas in there in there and

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Speaker 2: he didn't get traded because he's been hurt for a

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Speaker 2: whole year, right, And then I don't know who the rest,

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Speaker 2: but I don't care. No team has thirty prospects, and

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Speaker 2: the Potters have been trading prospects away for years. You

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Speaker 2: number one prospect, whoever was not traded the next highest

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Speaker 2: is now they're number two prospect and they move right

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Speaker 2: on up. You know what Preler will do next year,

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Speaker 2: He has the opportunity, he'll trade all them suckers away

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Speaker 2: to and get more big league players. So good for you, Proler.

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Speaker 1: And look at his position player group. Most of them

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Speaker 1: if they don't work out, they got problems regardless. But

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Speaker 1: they're not getting replaced, right first base Cronenworth locked in

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Speaker 1: with Jackson Merrill. They don't have that many spots open. Catcher, Okay,

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Speaker 1: they picked up a catcher, and for mean, who could

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Speaker 1: Dan Sallas is there in the miners. Their bullpen's disgusting.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, everybody needs to everybody needs to understand exactly what

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Speaker 3: AJ said. No organization has thirty prospects. We used to

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Speaker 3: joke when we were in the minor leagues, the thirty

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Speaker 2: Like I was thirty one. Had they just expanded it.

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Speaker 2: I was thirty one.

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Speaker 3: You know someone who's twenty nine's like, yeah, I made it,

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Speaker 3: And we were like, nah, better be thirty one. I

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Speaker 3: mean yeah, No, no team has twenty nine prospects. I'm sorry,

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Speaker 3: probably not even nine prospects. And the Padres got rid

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Speaker 3: we got their ninth best prospect, all the guys they traded.

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Speaker 2: No, I don't know. I give them credit though they're

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Speaker 2: trying tries. Man, I give you credit. Proler, you try hard,

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Speaker 2: and I hope you hope it works out for you

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Speaker 2: because I think it's awesome. I think it's great. Then listen,

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Speaker 2: the teams have tried and didn't hoard their prospects, the Phillies,

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Speaker 2: the same ones, the Mets, right, those teams cordin the

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Speaker 1: Up a bunch of prospects too, Yankees, Yankees, good for you.

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Speaker 1: But the thing is, almost all the teams you just

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Speaker 1: Preller with Devires. In my mind, I yes, there's other

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Speaker 1: guys that have some potential, but the only one in

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Speaker 1: that might really hurt is Leo Devrez. A lot of

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Speaker 2: You think the thirty seventh prospect of the Padres there,

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Speaker 2: like darn it, we lost him. No, not one person knows,

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Speaker 2: even the organization, even the prospect people that are out

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Speaker 2: there on Twitter and in the internet. Dude, the thirty

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Speaker 2: another one tomorrow.

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Speaker 1: Correct. And also Prowler's sitting there going to say a scout,

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Speaker 1: who's talking up that player, who's you know, the third

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Speaker 1: best third basement in their system. And he's going, oh,

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Speaker 1: where where's he going to play? Where is he gonna

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Speaker 1: for Manny Man is still gonna be there for there.

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Speaker 2: For like nine more years.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm like, I texted you.

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Speaker 2: No, especially for a team that needs new blood and

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Speaker 3: Look who's gotten twenty million dollars a year, even for

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Speaker 2: It's a small one. It's a small lest By the way, Nad,

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Speaker 2: You guys said that mediocre prospects don't matter, that's all

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Speaker 1: Helping you win.

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Speaker 2: He's been terrible for tears. If you can get anything

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Speaker 1: This is twenty million, Okay. We're talking about the Padres

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Speaker 1: Yes, the White Sox have nothing and they need to

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Speaker 2: They're doubling down.

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Speaker 3: They're saying we didn't get anything, and we're going to

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Speaker 1: You know what else stands out to me, Some gms

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Speaker 3: Back to back.

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Speaker 1: Ben Charrington said the Pirates quote had access to players

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Speaker 1: They can't develop a catcher, so they're like, boom, hopefully

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Speaker 1: Connan Smith, Jigba, Yes he does, he's a nice guy,

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Speaker 1: Kiner del Gato, Brian Sanchez, Hoy Park, Michael Ascato, Diego Castillo.

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Speaker 1: How's this going. Don't you think at this point, Kratz,

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Speaker 1: They're fleecing you over and over and over again. They're

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Speaker 1: I hope that this catcher works out for the Pirates,

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Speaker 1: the Tigers. I'm just gonna try something else. It's like

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Speaker 3: Ben Jerston calls Cashman, and Cashman's ring tone for Shery

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Speaker 3: todays money money, money, money, money, as we go, Ben, Yes, no,

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Speaker 2: Do you want one? Absolutely?

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Speaker 3: We have a bunch of guys that throw ninety eight

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Speaker 3: two of those? Thank you, We'll take your controllable closer

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Speaker 3: see you later.

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Speaker 1: I would love to hear the sales call, because it's

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Speaker 2: Yeah, are great at this Look at that hold list.

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Speaker 2: There's not one guy in there that I've ever really

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Speaker 1: Right, that's a football man.

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Speaker 2: What are we doing?

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Speaker 1: This is what all Pirates Turns are doing. I spent

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Speaker 1: This has been a really difficult six years.

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Speaker 2: Nothing's not going anywhere, of course not. Yeah, that's what

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Speaker 1: That's what he said.

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Speaker 2: That's what he said, that's what he said.

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Speaker 1: All Right, here we go. I always look forward to

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Speaker 1: The Rangers were like adding to a surplus. You can't

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Speaker 3: I think they disagree with you. I think they disagree

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but what did they do learn from Jed Hoyer

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Speaker 2: Paradis is in there. But they did it.

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Speaker 1: You're not screaming. World Series teams.

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Speaker 3: Doesn't get hurt if you and HAP doesn't get hurt.

431
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Speaker 3: Do they get Willy Castro?

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Speaker 1: Maybe not? Why do you ask?

433
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Speaker 2: I would say no, just because.

434
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Speaker 3: Then it's even less of a then to me, it's

435
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Speaker 3: just an answer to Ian happ getting hurt because they

436
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Speaker 3: don't think Biasteros can play that he can't play left

437
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Speaker 3: field every day for him.

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Speaker 1: I think they think nout he was a catch, he's

439
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Speaker 1: a catcher the h Yeah, I mean maybe oh in

440
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Speaker 1: casey Caen. Here's the thing that they held him.

441
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Speaker 2: Remember last year when they went out and got Candelario

442
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Speaker 2: a lot two years ago when they went out.

443
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Speaker 1: And got last year they got Pradies.

444
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Speaker 2: When two years ago, like they were everyone's like, oh,

445
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Speaker 2: the Cubs are in, the Cubs are in. They went

446
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Speaker 2: out and got Candelario. People are like, why didn't they

447
00:22:34,480 --> 00:22:36,640
Speaker 2: sell Remember we were like talking about on here. Yeah,

448
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Speaker 2: cup should have sold the cups of sould instead. That

449
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Speaker 2: was twenty three to get people. Sorry my pack drop.

450
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Speaker 1: Well, last year they got Paradis when they were not

451
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Speaker 1: in a great spot. People thought they were gonna sell hard,

452
00:22:47,640 --> 00:22:50,760
Speaker 1: and Partis ended up being helpful to turn into Kyle Tucker.

453
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Speaker 1: Great job, great job on both most of those fronts,

454
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Speaker 1: but not here. You needed a starter, and I think

455
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Speaker 1: you needed a reliever too. Here was the message to fans,

456
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Speaker 1: considering other teams were more aggressive, using trades for second

457
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Speaker 1: closers as an example, like San Diego Mets, Phillies, et cetera. Right,

458
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Speaker 1: Jesse Rodgers got the quote from Jed who said, quote,

459
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Speaker 1: our biggest focus wasn't trading that prospect capital in the bullpen.

460
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Speaker 1: If we were going to do that, it was in

461
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Speaker 1: the rotation. That's what I would say. You messed up.

462
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Speaker 2: Instead, they didn't trade any of that prospect capital. We

463
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Speaker 2: got no starters.

464
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Speaker 1: I listened to other quotes from him too. He was

465
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Speaker 1: on ESPN yesterday and he said that they don't want

466
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Speaker 1: to do the drastic up down because if you think

467
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Speaker 1: about it, they'd rather Okay, so won series question?

468
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Speaker 2: I asked Bob, So if you just make the playoffs

469
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Speaker 2: like the Brewers do, and you never really get anywhere?

470
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Speaker 2: Is that good enough the Twins? We made the playoffs?

471
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Speaker 2: Want we want a wildcard series? We're great, all right,

472
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Speaker 2: We're good. Is that good enough? Because I don't think

473
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Speaker 2: it is if you're the Cubs.

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Speaker 1: To me, you know what, the screams fifty four. The

475
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Speaker 1: team that that was believing in fifty four percent actually

476
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Speaker 1: just got past that.

477
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Speaker 2: Right.

478
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Speaker 1: This is the first time. The Mariners are like, Okay,

479
00:24:08,080 --> 00:24:10,600
Speaker 1: lame and you're not. Every team is going to be

480
00:24:10,640 --> 00:24:14,280
Speaker 1: in it every year. It's just not possible. So that

481
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Speaker 1: was a fifty four trade deadline. Let's let's give ourselves

482
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Speaker 1: a shot. Let's get to the playoffs. Chances are not

483
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Speaker 1: high that we'll have enough pitching to win in the

484
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Speaker 1: National League. That looks ridiculous.

485
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Speaker 2: Hey, we made the playoffs.

486
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Speaker 1: Yeah, and we'll be able to kind of keep this

487
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Speaker 1: going for a while. Bruce Levine also commenting on what

488
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Speaker 1: the Cubs and White Sox might have done together since

489
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Speaker 1: Jed Hoyer and Chris gets their buddies. They almost had

490
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Speaker 1: a trade for Adrian Hauser and the quote, I believe

491
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Speaker 1: it's from Getz. We worked really hard but didn't quite

492
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Speaker 1: get there. Oh, Hoyer said that gets confirmed they had

493
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Speaker 1: conversations up to thirty minutes before the deadline. Gets said

494
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Speaker 1: he thought they were close for the prospects that they

495
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Speaker 1: asked for.

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Speaker 2: Are they had dinner together?

497
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Speaker 1: I don't know.

498
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Speaker 2: Are they sitting at dinner together because they live like

499
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Speaker 2: next door to each other.

500
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Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying. They sometimes I don't think they were.

501
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Speaker 1: I mean, they might have been at dinner after, but

502
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Speaker 1: they're in their their situation. I don't think you sit

503
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Speaker 1: at dinner and do the trade deadline. I don't think, Adrian.

504
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Speaker 1: Some people say in the chat that they did they

505
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Speaker 1: had dinner during the deadline or.

506
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Speaker 2: During the trade deadline.

507
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Speaker 1: During the deadline.

508
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Speaker 2: Scott doesn't get it. We need confirmed, we need TMZ pictures.

509
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Speaker 1: I don't get it. What's the joke.

510
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Speaker 2: Well, they're all saying they were sleeping. Certain people are sleeping.

511
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Speaker 1: After lunch out to lunch.

512
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Speaker 2: They forgot.

513
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Speaker 1: Yeah, some people say, I agree with you, they want

514
00:25:47,200 --> 00:25:48,080
Speaker 1: a good joke, good job.

515
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Speaker 2: I'm sure they've been I'm sure they've had plenty of discussion.

516
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Speaker 2: You think what you think when they're in the car together, like, hey,

517
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Speaker 2: what about this? Will you take Louise Robert for twenty million?

518
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Speaker 2: And you give me own Casey.

519
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Speaker 1: I think that it goes even past that where he says,

520
00:26:02,760 --> 00:26:05,280
Speaker 1: what should I do with Luis Robert and he says,

521
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Speaker 1: you should keep them unless you had a top prospect,

522
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Speaker 1: and he goes, but no one's offering me that, and

523
00:26:09,760 --> 00:26:11,840
Speaker 1: he's like, yeah, because everyone's soft and no one trades

524
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Speaker 1: big prospects anymore, So you should just keep them and

525
00:26:14,160 --> 00:26:15,960
Speaker 1: spend more money and then we'll just continue to be

526
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Speaker 1: the better team in Chicago. Gotcha Sucker was going down,

527
00:26:23,080 --> 00:26:25,240
Speaker 1: That's right. Howser, by the way, went to the race.

528
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Speaker 1: Interesting trade deadline for them. They got rid of to

529
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Speaker 1: tell They picked up Howser, got rid of TODs, Bradley

530
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Speaker 1: picked Gryffin Jackson, who they have for two and a

531
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Speaker 1: half seasons. I think Gryffin Jackson is really good. That's

532
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Speaker 1: gonna be a good one to Stus. Sternberg owns the

533
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Speaker 1: race for a few more months, and I don't think

534
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Speaker 1: he wanted to sell the team and have them all

535
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Speaker 1: fall apart. They already have a deal, it sounds like,

536
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Speaker 1: so it's not going to affect anything. This is very

537
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Speaker 1: different from the Twins clearing their books. So I'm like, okay,

538
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Speaker 1: I mean sure, you'd like to see them buy if

539
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Speaker 1: they were buying, but they don't. They don't know if

540
00:27:00,400 --> 00:27:04,480
Speaker 1: they're really in a good position. Their their playoff percentage

541
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Speaker 1: chance is pretty low, right, but they're like, hey, let's

542
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Speaker 1: give it a shot.

543
00:27:08,560 --> 00:27:11,359
Speaker 2: They try to thread the needle. Yeah, they always do this.

544
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Speaker 1: I've seen better, I've seen worse. Tea breaking news, the

545
00:27:17,280 --> 00:27:20,440
Speaker 1: Yankees say they do not need Marcus Stroman anymore, so

546
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Speaker 1: he has been released. This according to Bob Nightgel, who

547
00:27:23,560 --> 00:27:25,719
Speaker 1: was just on our show Minutes to Go, he's still hustling,

548
00:27:26,320 --> 00:27:30,160
Speaker 1: so he said, Stroman should be joining a starting rotation

549
00:27:30,720 --> 00:27:33,920
Speaker 1: near you. Hey, maybe some of those teams that didn't

550
00:27:33,960 --> 00:27:35,720
Speaker 1: do anything can drop a phone.

551
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Speaker 2: The Cubs are going to take him back.

552
00:27:37,200 --> 00:27:40,359
Speaker 1: Maybe Cubs Red Sox phone calls it.

553
00:27:41,840 --> 00:27:43,440
Speaker 3: He would love to go to the Red Sox. He

554
00:27:43,480 --> 00:27:48,040
Speaker 3: would love to play the villain to the Yankees or

555
00:27:48,200 --> 00:27:52,840
Speaker 3: the superhero for the Red Sox if he has his choice,

556
00:27:54,000 --> 00:27:56,680
Speaker 3: he would love that. Yeah, Blue Jays, back to the

557
00:27:56,760 --> 00:27:57,320
Speaker 3: Blue Jays.

558
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Speaker 1: Well, now they already have six starters. He here's the problem.

559
00:28:00,880 --> 00:28:04,240
Speaker 1: He has a six plus e RA. If you go

560
00:28:04,320 --> 00:28:08,359
Speaker 1: on his stat cast page, everything besides ground balls is

561
00:28:08,600 --> 00:28:13,720
Speaker 1: incredibly blue. It could be the end, or it could

562
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Speaker 1: be a tryout on a team that just needs to

563
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Speaker 1: pick up some innings. I don't know.

564
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Speaker 2: Do you think you pick a team that needs He's

565
00:28:22,760 --> 00:28:24,199
Speaker 2: just gonna have to pick find a team we can

566
00:28:24,280 --> 00:28:27,840
Speaker 2: pitch and start, right, whatever team that is, it needs

567
00:28:27,920 --> 00:28:31,560
Speaker 2: him just to eat innings, whether you know, to cover

568
00:28:31,720 --> 00:28:33,119
Speaker 2: and then hope he does really well and then he

569
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Speaker 2: can find another job next year.

570
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Speaker 1: Does he want to go to a team that is

571
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Speaker 1: not in the race?

572
00:28:37,960 --> 00:28:39,600
Speaker 2: Well, he has to make a decision. Do I want

573
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Speaker 2: to go to a team that's good and probably not

574
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Speaker 2: get to pitch a ton, or do I want to

575
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Speaker 2: go to a team that's out of the race and

576
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Speaker 2: probably get a chance to pitch every day. Right, that's

577
00:28:48,040 --> 00:28:49,560
Speaker 2: a tough decision we all have to make.

578
00:28:49,680 --> 00:28:51,560
Speaker 1: What would you do if you or him?

579
00:28:52,040 --> 00:28:52,880
Speaker 2: Has he won before?

580
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Speaker 1: I don't think he's won a World Series?

581
00:28:56,400 --> 00:29:00,360
Speaker 2: Then your answer is I, he's made a lot of money,

582
00:29:00,640 --> 00:29:02,880
Speaker 2: so I'd probably have to go with the go where

583
00:29:02,880 --> 00:29:04,880
Speaker 2: I have a chance to win. But that's tough because

584
00:29:04,880 --> 00:29:06,160
Speaker 2: he was on the Yankees to have a chance to

585
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Speaker 2: win and they let him go. So other teams are

586
00:29:09,120 --> 00:29:10,520
Speaker 2: gonna say, why did the Yankees let him go.

587
00:29:10,800 --> 00:29:12,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, and he wasn't happy in the bullpen.

588
00:29:12,560 --> 00:29:14,920
Speaker 2: Let's not forget. There's also the whole thing. He was

589
00:29:15,000 --> 00:29:17,480
Speaker 2: not happy in the bullpen. Remember they put him in

590
00:29:17,520 --> 00:29:19,360
Speaker 2: the bullpen. He wasn't happy. Then he said, I don't

591
00:29:19,360 --> 00:29:20,840
Speaker 2: want to be in the bullpen. I'm a starter, So

592
00:29:22,360 --> 00:29:22,680
Speaker 2: I don't know.

593
00:29:23,000 --> 00:29:26,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, I was gonna mention how he made it pretty clear,

594
00:29:27,000 --> 00:29:30,640
Speaker 1: telling us what twelve times since spring training in that interview,

595
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Speaker 1: I'm a starter. It's made nine starters this year. He

596
00:29:35,240 --> 00:29:37,680
Speaker 1: had some injuries, that's it. He's made the nine appearances.

597
00:29:38,520 --> 00:29:40,640
Speaker 3: He also didn't He also didn't pitch once in the

598
00:29:40,680 --> 00:29:44,200
Speaker 3: playoffs last year. I'm not saying that was all him.

599
00:29:44,840 --> 00:29:49,680
Speaker 3: I'm saying maybe partially him, Like if you're gonna throw me, like,

600
00:29:50,560 --> 00:29:52,280
Speaker 3: you got to make sure I got time to warm up.

601
00:29:52,360 --> 00:29:54,920
Speaker 3: So if a contending team says, yeah, I want this guy,

602
00:29:55,720 --> 00:29:58,560
Speaker 3: they have to understand he wasn't used in the playoffs

603
00:29:58,640 --> 00:30:00,520
Speaker 3: last year. I'm not saying he wasn't good enough. I'm

604
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Speaker 3: saying he wasn't used for whatever reason. If you have

605
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Speaker 3: him a starter right now, he's gonna fill innings for

606
00:30:06,960 --> 00:30:11,560
Speaker 3: you and you make the playoffs how's he gonna feel

607
00:30:11,640 --> 00:30:13,640
Speaker 3: going to the pen? Well, he made that clear in

608
00:30:13,720 --> 00:30:18,040
Speaker 3: spring training and postseason. It wasn't it wasn't looking like

609
00:30:18,120 --> 00:30:19,680
Speaker 3: where he wanted to be. Let's put it that way.

610
00:30:20,880 --> 00:30:23,120
Speaker 1: William in the chat said he doesn't have pen and stuff,

611
00:30:24,000 --> 00:30:26,320
Speaker 1: bullpen stuff. He said, maybe long reliever.

612
00:30:26,600 --> 00:30:30,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what he would be. We know he's he's

613
00:30:30,240 --> 00:30:32,080
Speaker 2: not going to the eighth inning and they're not firing

614
00:30:32,120 --> 00:30:33,000
Speaker 2: him out there in the eighth inning.

615
00:30:33,080 --> 00:30:35,400
Speaker 1: Yeah. I think he meant, you know, high leverage stuff.

616
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Speaker 1: Oh no, yeah, Okay, this is interesting. I wonder do

617
00:30:41,920 --> 00:30:44,880
Speaker 1: you think someone picks him up because if he really

618
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Speaker 1: wants to be a starter and it's only contender, you

619
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Speaker 1: think so Astro don't so he doesn't get picked up.

620
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Speaker 2: No, he does. He does with it.

621
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Speaker 3: You said a contender. Does he get picked up by contender? No,

622
00:31:01,000 --> 00:31:02,640
Speaker 3: I don't think he gets picked up by a contender.

623
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Speaker 3: I think somebody that need innings.

624
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Speaker 1: I got one for you. I think he goes home.

625
00:31:11,320 --> 00:31:11,760
Speaker 2: To happen.

626
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Speaker 1: I think he goes home, Oh, check cash is the

627
00:31:15,160 --> 00:31:19,600
Speaker 1: same this year, and then you take off too. Yeah.

628
00:31:19,640 --> 00:31:21,440
Speaker 1: I think he just says, hey, this is not going

629
00:31:21,520 --> 00:31:23,840
Speaker 1: to be the right setup for me unless a contender

630
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Speaker 1: wants me and promises me that I'm going to be

631
00:31:25,480 --> 00:31:29,040
Speaker 1: a starter. The rest of the way, check cash is

632
00:31:29,080 --> 00:31:31,920
Speaker 1: the same, go home, and then you can sign a

633
00:31:32,360 --> 00:31:35,120
Speaker 1: contract with the team to show up at spring training

634
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Speaker 1: and buy for a rotation spot. Just knowing how he operates.

635
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Speaker 1: I don't think that's a crazy thought.

636
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Speaker 2: Okay, right, Yeah, he's got a boat. It'll be down

637
00:31:47,280 --> 00:31:50,520
Speaker 2: in Tampa. I don't hate that. And he makes his

638
00:31:50,640 --> 00:31:53,080
Speaker 2: contract tax free down in Florida.

639
00:31:54,400 --> 00:31:56,920
Speaker 1: He does the bullpen session on the dock. You ever

640
00:31:57,000 --> 00:32:00,959
Speaker 1: seen those videos? Oh yeah, so I got his own

641
00:32:00,960 --> 00:32:01,440
Speaker 1: shoe line.

642
00:32:01,440 --> 00:32:04,280
Speaker 2: He does too right, And hey, sugar.

643
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Speaker 1: If he wants to still pitching the bags and make

644
00:32:07,960 --> 00:32:10,400
Speaker 1: some money. And but here's the thing.

645
00:32:11,120 --> 00:32:13,040
Speaker 2: Unless he goes to a team this year and pitches

646
00:32:13,080 --> 00:32:14,560
Speaker 2: and does well, he's going to be a NRI next

647
00:32:14,600 --> 00:32:17,400
Speaker 2: year's gonna be a non roster invite more than crats.

648
00:32:18,080 --> 00:32:19,760
Speaker 2: I mean, I would think with a chance to make

649
00:32:19,800 --> 00:32:21,920
Speaker 2: a couple million. I don't know that that's the way

650
00:32:22,000 --> 00:32:23,680
Speaker 2: this kind of goes. You get released the next year,

651
00:32:23,720 --> 00:32:26,160
Speaker 2: you go to a camp as a NRI guy, or

652
00:32:26,760 --> 00:32:28,920
Speaker 2: you know, most most of the time, not all the time.

653
00:32:29,040 --> 00:32:30,840
Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, yeah, yeah, I was trying to think of

654
00:32:31,000 --> 00:32:35,040
Speaker 3: I'm trying to think of examples of guys who who

655
00:32:35,440 --> 00:32:38,000
Speaker 3: had subpar years and then still came out and got

656
00:32:38,480 --> 00:32:43,160
Speaker 3: got that contract. Just yeah, just coming off an injury

657
00:32:43,240 --> 00:32:45,479
Speaker 3: and then he didn't get many starts after the injury.

658
00:32:46,160 --> 00:32:48,600
Speaker 3: It's tough. Some people be like, oh, screw that, Like

659
00:32:48,680 --> 00:32:50,200
Speaker 3: I didn't get it. I didn't get a fair shake

660
00:32:50,280 --> 00:32:50,960
Speaker 3: after the injury.

661
00:32:52,040 --> 00:32:52,440
Speaker 2: I get it.

662
00:32:52,480 --> 00:32:54,680
Speaker 3: That's why you don't rush back from injuries for everybody

663
00:32:54,720 --> 00:32:57,880
Speaker 3: who's watching. Don't rush back from injuries because you don't

664
00:32:57,880 --> 00:32:59,680
Speaker 3: do good right out the game, especially on a Tina

665
00:32:59,720 --> 00:33:02,920
Speaker 3: wants to win, You'll find a spot for someone else.

666
00:33:05,640 --> 00:33:09,480
Speaker 1: I think public perception because he's vocal and outspoken could

667
00:33:09,640 --> 00:33:12,200
Speaker 1: lead to some team saying no. Also because he hasn't

668
00:33:12,200 --> 00:33:14,160
Speaker 1: pitched well. I mean, he's a negative war in his

669
00:33:14,280 --> 00:33:16,560
Speaker 1: nine starts six plus e RA. Some teams are just

670
00:33:16,640 --> 00:33:17,200
Speaker 1: going to be like, not.

671
00:33:17,360 --> 00:33:19,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, but the team like the Braves Orioles.

672
00:33:19,520 --> 00:33:22,160
Speaker 1: Do you think the Braves would take them? I think

673
00:33:22,200 --> 00:33:24,200
Speaker 1: the Orioles might. I think the Oriols might. I don't know.

674
00:33:24,360 --> 00:33:25,480
Speaker 1: I don't think the Braves. I don't know.

675
00:33:25,480 --> 00:33:27,800
Speaker 2: If there's stone teams out there that we've talked about

676
00:33:27,840 --> 00:33:31,440
Speaker 2: needing starters. Those are a couple of teams that kind of.

677
00:33:31,440 --> 00:33:32,360
Speaker 1: Need starters Orioles.

678
00:33:32,440 --> 00:33:35,080
Speaker 2: For sure, Braves lost their whole rotation.

679
00:33:35,280 --> 00:33:39,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, I just for some reason, I don't think and

680
00:33:39,120 --> 00:33:42,920
Speaker 1: Thoppolis had him right, he had him in Torontoah, Yeah,

681
00:33:43,280 --> 00:33:45,880
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't I don't think that gets reunited.

682
00:33:46,280 --> 00:33:49,360
Speaker 1: But I could be wrong. Maybe they got along really well.

683
00:33:49,560 --> 00:33:52,720
Speaker 1: And there's a phone call there. And also, let's not

684
00:33:52,840 --> 00:33:54,880
Speaker 1: act like this business doesn't have a little bit of

685
00:33:54,920 --> 00:33:57,640
Speaker 1: networking to it, right, There's some guys you like, there's

686
00:33:57,680 --> 00:34:00,240
Speaker 1: some guys you don't like, like Alex might really like

687
00:34:00,720 --> 00:34:02,760
Speaker 1: Marcus from their times there, and it might be a

688
00:34:02,800 --> 00:34:04,280
Speaker 1: phone call like, hey, dude, give me a shot. Let

689
00:34:04,320 --> 00:34:05,640
Speaker 1: me let me get a start or two there and

690
00:34:05,680 --> 00:34:07,680
Speaker 1: see if I can get this rolling again.

691
00:34:08,200 --> 00:34:12,960
Speaker 2: Nothing else. That's what I'm saying. That's that's what I'm saying.

692
00:34:13,000 --> 00:34:14,319
Speaker 2: The Braves are a real option.

693
00:34:14,520 --> 00:34:16,279
Speaker 1: Cookie Carrasco pitch the other day.

694
00:34:16,560 --> 00:34:20,759
Speaker 2: That's my point. Yeah, Okay, Cooking Carrasco pitched last night.

695
00:34:20,800 --> 00:34:22,800
Speaker 2: It actually did okay until the eighth inning came and

696
00:34:22,880 --> 00:34:25,080
Speaker 2: then nobody pitched very well.

697
00:34:25,800 --> 00:34:28,560
Speaker 1: Neither and that was the relievers. I mean no, I know, yeah,

698
00:34:29,440 --> 00:34:30,040
Speaker 1: that was a difference.

699
00:34:30,120 --> 00:34:32,239
Speaker 2: He scored eight runs in the eighth last night.

700
00:34:33,320 --> 00:34:33,960
Speaker 1: That was something.

701
00:34:35,520 --> 00:34:35,759
Speaker 2: Wow.

702
00:34:36,600 --> 00:34:39,800
Speaker 1: So anyway, the news is Marcus Stroman cut by the Yanks.

703
00:34:40,360 --> 00:34:46,240
Speaker 1: They are going to go forward with Warren Schlitter, Louis

704
00:34:46,280 --> 00:34:48,920
Speaker 1: Heel's coming back this weekend, and then of course you

705
00:34:49,000 --> 00:34:51,839
Speaker 1: got Freed and Rodin at the top. Makes sense. All

706
00:34:51,920 --> 00:34:55,600
Speaker 1: those arms I think great better now than current version

707
00:34:55,600 --> 00:34:58,759
Speaker 1: of Stroman. So there you go. That's your breaking news. Hey,

708
00:34:58,800 --> 00:35:01,120
Speaker 1: I want to bring that game up. Key Brian Hayes

709
00:35:01,320 --> 00:35:06,280
Speaker 1: first game with the Reds pulls a homer, said two homers.

710
00:35:06,360 --> 00:35:09,600
Speaker 1: The whole year is like a two ninety slugging percentage.

711
00:35:10,239 --> 00:35:14,640
Speaker 1: Pirates fans already were feeling miserable after their trade deadline,

712
00:35:14,960 --> 00:35:18,880
Speaker 1: and then there's barely any baseball on and Key Brian

713
00:35:18,960 --> 00:35:22,640
Speaker 1: Hayes bangs a homer, part of an eight run comeback

714
00:35:22,880 --> 00:35:26,560
Speaker 1: for the Reds, who ultimately lost, but still Kratz texted

715
00:35:26,640 --> 00:35:29,520
Speaker 1: us in our group chat like, oh, hey, there's the power.

716
00:35:31,840 --> 00:35:36,040
Speaker 3: His career seven. I wrote it down, seven forty two

717
00:35:36,160 --> 00:35:39,600
Speaker 3: ops versus the Reds. I don't know if that means

718
00:35:39,640 --> 00:35:41,920
Speaker 3: the trade is good or not, but maybe.

719
00:35:41,719 --> 00:35:44,640
Speaker 2: He likes playing in Cincinnati, just saying.

720
00:35:46,880 --> 00:35:52,560
Speaker 1: That's crazy. First game, I mean, you.

721
00:35:52,640 --> 00:35:54,440
Speaker 2: Had, like you know, that was it had to be

722
00:35:54,560 --> 00:35:56,960
Speaker 2: the lock. That had to be the lock. That was

723
00:35:57,080 --> 00:35:59,760
Speaker 2: his third homer of the year. He's got his Pirates

724
00:35:59,760 --> 00:36:02,480
Speaker 2: shoe on, his Pirates belt on, all his Pirates stuff on,

725
00:36:02,680 --> 00:36:03,800
Speaker 2: and wammo.

726
00:36:04,760 --> 00:36:06,960
Speaker 1: There was either the Pirates fans that are like, I

727
00:36:07,080 --> 00:36:09,800
Speaker 1: hate life or the other side, because again i was

728
00:36:09,920 --> 00:36:12,000
Speaker 1: just couldn't sleep last night and I'm going through comments.

729
00:36:12,000 --> 00:36:14,040
Speaker 1: They're the Pirates fans are like, are you gonna point

730
00:36:14,040 --> 00:36:16,440
Speaker 1: out the two run error that he had? And I'm like,

731
00:36:16,719 --> 00:36:21,120
Speaker 1: shut up, dude, He's really good at third. That is

732
00:36:21,239 --> 00:36:24,680
Speaker 1: not the concern for Cincinnati. The concern is will this

733
00:36:24,800 --> 00:36:27,560
Speaker 1: guy hit enough to be worth seven million a year

734
00:36:27,719 --> 00:36:29,720
Speaker 1: for the next X amount of years and they're banking

735
00:36:29,760 --> 00:36:29,960
Speaker 1: on it.

736
00:36:31,880 --> 00:36:34,640
Speaker 2: We'll see, it's gonna be interesting. This is this is

737
00:36:34,680 --> 00:36:36,840
Speaker 2: a fascinating trade to me because we talked about it

738
00:36:36,880 --> 00:36:39,640
Speaker 2: when it happened. Why did Cincinnati take on that money

739
00:36:39,719 --> 00:36:41,600
Speaker 2: unless they think they can unlock something and maybe they

740
00:36:41,640 --> 00:36:43,359
Speaker 2: have a different hitting coach, maybe they talked to him

741
00:36:43,360 --> 00:36:45,759
Speaker 2: a little bit differently and he's been in Pittsburgh his

742
00:36:45,840 --> 00:36:48,560
Speaker 2: whole career. You know, sometimes he grow stale, like the

743
00:36:48,600 --> 00:36:50,560
Speaker 2: same message over and over again. He signed a big

744
00:36:50,640 --> 00:36:53,239
Speaker 2: contract there, didn't get any better. So maybe this is

745
00:36:53,320 --> 00:36:55,520
Speaker 2: the opportunity to move on and find something that he

746
00:36:55,840 --> 00:36:56,920
Speaker 2: couldn't find in Pittsburgh.

747
00:36:57,440 --> 00:36:59,080
Speaker 1: I hope, So, I hope it works out for him.

748
00:36:59,080 --> 00:37:00,960
Speaker 2: He's probably tired of being in last place over here too.

749
00:37:01,120 --> 00:37:05,160
Speaker 1: It's tough. That's gotta be tough every year, no chance. Hey. Also,

750
00:37:05,280 --> 00:37:07,280
Speaker 1: the Mariners are one to zero and the Gino Suarez

751
00:37:07,280 --> 00:37:09,840
Speaker 1: era had a nice knock and cal Riley hit his

752
00:37:09,920 --> 00:37:13,000
Speaker 1: forty second homers. Yeah, it's gonna be fun to watch

753
00:37:13,040 --> 00:37:16,240
Speaker 1: the Mariners down the stretch here. Mariners fans are pumped

754
00:37:16,640 --> 00:37:18,800
Speaker 1: because they were pissed when they didn't push chips in

755
00:37:18,840 --> 00:37:21,080
Speaker 1: the past couple of years for the bats and then

756
00:37:21,080 --> 00:37:22,920
Speaker 1: they just got two and the one they got last

757
00:37:23,000 --> 00:37:25,719
Speaker 1: year Randy or Rose. Arena is hitting pretty well too,

758
00:37:26,040 --> 00:37:30,799
Speaker 1: So let's talk about the AL West leaders coming up next.

759
00:37:31,080 --> 00:37:33,840
Speaker 1: That's the Astros five well, now what four and a

760
00:37:33,840 --> 00:37:42,080
Speaker 1: half games up? Yeah? In the Weeds powered by Arena

761
00:37:42,160 --> 00:37:48,319
Speaker 1: club by sell Trade, Open slab Packs, arenaclub dot Com,

762
00:37:48,480 --> 00:37:52,880
Speaker 1: Slash foul more coming up. That's great. The trade deadline,

763
00:37:53,920 --> 00:37:56,320
Speaker 1: Jim Boden did his list. Don't show yet, but he

764
00:37:56,440 --> 00:37:59,920
Speaker 1: did his list. He gave out five days, fifteen bees,

765
00:38:00,160 --> 00:38:03,799
Speaker 1: seven season three d's. AJ was very excited for my list.

766
00:38:03,880 --> 00:38:08,160
Speaker 1: I gave out six a's, fourteen b's, eight c's, and

767
00:38:08,320 --> 00:38:16,560
Speaker 1: two d's. A's first, I'll give you Bodens a's. He

768
00:38:16,640 --> 00:38:21,800
Speaker 1: gave the Mariners an A, the Padres in A, the

769
00:38:21,880 --> 00:38:26,320
Speaker 1: Mets in A minus, the Phillies in A minus, and

770
00:38:26,440 --> 00:38:28,480
Speaker 1: the Giants in a A minus.

771
00:38:29,640 --> 00:38:33,240
Speaker 2: Why are the Giants I've had them as a loser.

772
00:38:33,640 --> 00:38:37,840
Speaker 1: He really liked their returns in their deals, and he

773
00:38:38,040 --> 00:38:43,160
Speaker 1: gave them credit for their trade season, which included Raphael Devers,

774
00:38:43,160 --> 00:38:44,279
Speaker 1: even though the teams.

775
00:38:44,080 --> 00:38:45,959
Speaker 2: They've been theteam in baseball since they got.

776
00:38:45,920 --> 00:38:48,800
Speaker 1: Him right, but he likes to deal long term. The

777
00:38:48,880 --> 00:38:52,000
Speaker 1: team stinks. I gave the Giants a B plus because

778
00:38:52,000 --> 00:38:53,879
Speaker 1: I actually thought, I mean, they got some major league

779
00:38:53,880 --> 00:38:58,000
Speaker 1: guys for Rogers. They pivoted in the right way. They're

780
00:38:58,080 --> 00:39:00,799
Speaker 1: not going to make the playoffs this year. Sell off

781
00:39:00,840 --> 00:39:03,880
Speaker 1: some pieces. That's what they did. Dove All still had

782
00:39:03,880 --> 00:39:05,839
Speaker 1: another year, but I think you sell high. He's having

783
00:39:05,880 --> 00:39:09,239
Speaker 1: a great year, So I think you got to thread

784
00:39:09,239 --> 00:39:11,919
Speaker 1: the needle a little bit. I think Buster Posey entered

785
00:39:12,040 --> 00:39:14,440
Speaker 1: a little bit of a mess and he's trying to

786
00:39:15,239 --> 00:39:16,879
Speaker 1: buy his way out of it. But you also still

787
00:39:16,920 --> 00:39:19,000
Speaker 1: need a farm system. They did not do a great

788
00:39:19,080 --> 00:39:21,280
Speaker 1: job of that, so B plus for me on the Giants,

789
00:39:21,360 --> 00:39:25,719
Speaker 1: I know, he gave him an A minus. And besides that,

790
00:39:26,239 --> 00:39:30,120
Speaker 1: Kratz I had the Yankees with an A minus to

791
00:39:30,200 --> 00:39:32,200
Speaker 1: go along with the Mets and Phillies two. I mean,

792
00:39:33,120 --> 00:39:35,960
Speaker 1: they fixed third, They got their two platoon bench guys.

793
00:39:36,560 --> 00:39:40,720
Speaker 1: They got three bullpen arms, two of which could close

794
00:39:40,800 --> 00:39:44,320
Speaker 1: for many teams. So are you not entertained A minus?

795
00:39:44,360 --> 00:39:46,160
Speaker 1: I mean, if they got a starter, you give him

796
00:39:46,160 --> 00:39:49,280
Speaker 1: the A or the A plus. But that's a pretty

797
00:39:49,360 --> 00:39:52,120
Speaker 1: nice deadline. He gave him a B plus. So oh

798
00:39:52,200 --> 00:39:54,000
Speaker 1: and then last one for me where I differed to

799
00:39:54,160 --> 00:39:58,120
Speaker 1: him is he had the Twins actually in the B plus.

800
00:39:59,120 --> 00:40:04,680
Speaker 1: I gave him an A. I mean, but we talked

801
00:40:04,680 --> 00:40:07,600
Speaker 1: about this yesterday. They cleared their roster to get sold,

802
00:40:07,800 --> 00:40:10,560
Speaker 1: and if you're a Twins fan, whatever gets your team

803
00:40:10,640 --> 00:40:14,920
Speaker 1: sold fastest wins Joe poll adds scorched earth on the

804
00:40:14,960 --> 00:40:17,200
Speaker 1: way out or the poll add family. In general, they're

805
00:40:17,480 --> 00:40:20,400
Speaker 1: hopefully about to sell the team, and the more that

806
00:40:20,520 --> 00:40:22,640
Speaker 1: they can clear, the easier it makes it to do.

807
00:40:22,880 --> 00:40:25,279
Speaker 2: By the way, they're sitting out season ticket renewals this

808
00:40:25,360 --> 00:40:28,600
Speaker 2: year for five percent increase, just to increase increase.

809
00:40:28,800 --> 00:40:31,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, but they're on their way out, and so they're

810
00:40:31,080 --> 00:40:33,919
Speaker 1: just messing with people at this point. I'm just saying,

811
00:40:34,120 --> 00:40:35,920
Speaker 1: I know, I know, but if you're a Twins fan,

812
00:40:36,000 --> 00:40:38,480
Speaker 1: I know it hurts that you traded forty percent of

813
00:40:38,480 --> 00:40:41,719
Speaker 1: your big league roster, but the number one thing you

814
00:40:41,760 --> 00:40:45,719
Speaker 1: should root for is someone new to run that ship.

815
00:40:46,239 --> 00:40:48,440
Speaker 1: And it doesn't always work out that way either. But

816
00:40:48,920 --> 00:40:50,920
Speaker 1: this is pretty bad and it's been a while, so

817
00:40:51,400 --> 00:40:53,520
Speaker 1: I give them an A. Where do you differ on

818
00:40:53,640 --> 00:40:54,320
Speaker 1: the a's.

819
00:40:55,320 --> 00:40:57,319
Speaker 3: I mean, first of all, I'm not sure exactly how

820
00:40:57,520 --> 00:40:59,200
Speaker 3: did he give a lot of bees out there? Is

821
00:40:59,200 --> 00:41:02,920
Speaker 3: there are a lot of buses. Yeah, because I was

822
00:41:03,000 --> 00:41:05,759
Speaker 3: told I was told in school that b's and c's

823
00:41:05,800 --> 00:41:10,200
Speaker 3: are average, So I'm pretty pretty happy with those. To me,

824
00:41:10,320 --> 00:41:12,960
Speaker 3: I agree with you. I put the I would have

825
00:41:13,000 --> 00:41:15,120
Speaker 3: put the Tigers a little bit lower. I think they

826
00:41:15,440 --> 00:41:18,279
Speaker 3: just kind of did stuff. I think they just kind

827
00:41:18,360 --> 00:41:23,040
Speaker 3: of middled around. They got more, They got more guys

828
00:41:23,080 --> 00:41:25,719
Speaker 3: than other teams, But to me, I would put them

829
00:41:25,920 --> 00:41:28,399
Speaker 3: in more like the C plus range. Doesn't mean they're

830
00:41:28,480 --> 00:41:31,440
Speaker 3: C plus team. I think the Yankees. I think the

831
00:41:31,560 --> 00:41:33,400
Speaker 3: Yankees are an A. The only reason I'm going to

832
00:41:33,440 --> 00:41:35,920
Speaker 3: give them an A minus is because I don't know

833
00:41:36,760 --> 00:41:40,799
Speaker 3: how these guys are going to fit in New York.

834
00:41:41,440 --> 00:41:46,000
Speaker 3: How does Bednar, who's only ever closed, do in the

835
00:41:46,160 --> 00:41:47,080
Speaker 3: non closer role?

836
00:41:47,320 --> 00:41:47,839
Speaker 2: Is that great?

837
00:41:48,239 --> 00:41:50,640
Speaker 3: Is that something that relieves some stress when you're coming

838
00:41:50,719 --> 00:41:55,240
Speaker 3: to the big city. What happens if Devin Williams falls again?

839
00:41:55,480 --> 00:41:59,160
Speaker 3: You know, Luke Weaver hasn't been great since he's come back.

840
00:41:59,680 --> 00:42:03,000
Speaker 3: Is none of that guy? Is Camille Duvall that guy?

841
00:42:03,480 --> 00:42:03,520
Speaker 1: Like?

842
00:42:04,120 --> 00:42:06,480
Speaker 2: To me, I think they got a lot of great pieces.

843
00:42:07,040 --> 00:42:08,719
Speaker 2: How it works in New York? I don't know.

844
00:42:09,040 --> 00:42:11,120
Speaker 3: They even upgraded their defense, which is something that I

845
00:42:11,160 --> 00:42:13,319
Speaker 3: didn't think they could do, and I think they did

846
00:42:13,360 --> 00:42:16,880
Speaker 3: it really well. Yankees fans viscerated me for saying that

847
00:42:17,520 --> 00:42:20,040
Speaker 3: Brian Cashman did a great job. They should talk to

848
00:42:20,160 --> 00:42:21,920
Speaker 3: me when we get a ring. I was like, well,

849
00:42:21,960 --> 00:42:26,160
Speaker 3: the only way to get a ring is to actually

850
00:42:26,280 --> 00:42:30,240
Speaker 3: make these moves. To me, I don't think the Braves.

851
00:42:30,560 --> 00:42:32,400
Speaker 3: I don't think the Braves did bad. I think the

852
00:42:32,480 --> 00:42:35,279
Speaker 3: only two teams, if you're not given any f's, the

853
00:42:35,400 --> 00:42:38,000
Speaker 3: only two teams that should get an F are the

854
00:42:38,160 --> 00:42:39,800
Speaker 3: Rockies and the White Sox.

855
00:42:40,360 --> 00:42:42,200
Speaker 1: All right, well, now let's show the board. I was

856
00:42:42,280 --> 00:42:44,279
Speaker 1: only doing a's and then Kratz gets an F for

857
00:42:44,280 --> 00:42:46,680
Speaker 1: a out following directions. But let's show the board. You

858
00:42:46,760 --> 00:42:47,839
Speaker 1: were going through your whole list.

859
00:42:47,920 --> 00:42:49,800
Speaker 2: I was just he lost, he lost me.

860
00:42:51,200 --> 00:42:54,160
Speaker 1: Kratz gets an F. So there's one one F on

861
00:42:54,280 --> 00:42:56,960
Speaker 1: this board all the way to the right. Kratz didn't

862
00:42:57,000 --> 00:43:00,040
Speaker 1: follow directions. But anyway, how do Rockies.

863
00:42:59,680 --> 00:43:02,680
Speaker 2: Get a minus? I mean, I guess they traded McMahon

864
00:43:02,840 --> 00:43:06,120
Speaker 2: bird to the Yankees. I mean I guess they didn't

865
00:43:06,120 --> 00:43:08,600
Speaker 2: really have that much to trade though, so but they

866
00:43:08,600 --> 00:43:10,480
Speaker 2: should be more of like I didn't do much.

867
00:43:11,040 --> 00:43:15,080
Speaker 1: They traded. They basically sit out most deadlines, right.

868
00:43:15,440 --> 00:43:18,320
Speaker 2: They great just for the fact they got someone to

869
00:43:18,360 --> 00:43:21,800
Speaker 2: take Brian Hayes. Wait, but the problem, that's what he's saying.

870
00:43:21,880 --> 00:43:24,800
Speaker 1: Hold up, the Rockies got a B minus from Bowden.

871
00:43:24,920 --> 00:43:27,280
Speaker 1: I am a B. They traded Jake Burden, Ryan McMahon.

872
00:43:27,280 --> 00:43:28,120
Speaker 1: What else did you want him to do.

873
00:43:28,200 --> 00:43:28,759
Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying.

874
00:43:29,000 --> 00:43:30,800
Speaker 1: That's all they had so so to be you have

875
00:43:30,920 --> 00:43:34,480
Speaker 1: to do what you can work with, right, So I

876
00:43:34,560 --> 00:43:36,480
Speaker 1: actually thought that was fine. He said, be minus. I

877
00:43:36,560 --> 00:43:37,760
Speaker 1: think it's to be Pirates.

878
00:43:37,800 --> 00:43:41,680
Speaker 2: You asked about Pirates, got B minus on on on Jim's.

879
00:43:41,440 --> 00:43:44,120
Speaker 1: List, there's C for me. They held on to three

880
00:43:44,239 --> 00:43:48,880
Speaker 1: rentals Andrew he Andy, Isaiah Kiner, Fileffa, Tommy fam The

881
00:43:49,040 --> 00:43:53,560
Speaker 1: C is all on the Brian Hayes money. Dumb. They

882
00:43:54,320 --> 00:43:56,879
Speaker 1: they moved and they moved Bednar. I don't. I don't

883
00:43:56,960 --> 00:43:59,839
Speaker 1: like the return. Ben Harrington does.

884
00:44:01,560 --> 00:44:03,400
Speaker 2: Actually the benchuring says we could have got more, but

885
00:44:03,480 --> 00:44:07,120
Speaker 2: we wanted these players. Don't you just get the best players.

886
00:44:06,800 --> 00:44:10,200
Speaker 1: Available if you're not, if you're the Pirates.

887
00:44:11,680 --> 00:44:15,760
Speaker 3: Evaluations system, they have a different evaluation system.

888
00:44:15,800 --> 00:44:20,359
Speaker 1: It's better. It's better. Their evaluation system is working better

889
00:44:20,480 --> 00:44:25,040
Speaker 1: than most everyone else's. Just look at the results.

890
00:44:25,960 --> 00:44:28,680
Speaker 3: That is not something anybody said. The only other part,

891
00:44:29,200 --> 00:44:31,719
Speaker 3: because I was the only person that actually turned in

892
00:44:31,840 --> 00:44:35,279
Speaker 3: my homework before the show, is I did go off

893
00:44:35,320 --> 00:44:37,160
Speaker 3: the rails and start talking about my f's But.

894
00:44:38,800 --> 00:44:40,680
Speaker 2: The mets I don't see.

895
00:44:40,800 --> 00:44:42,200
Speaker 3: I don't care if you give them an A minus

896
00:44:42,280 --> 00:44:43,800
Speaker 3: or not, but you can't have the Phillies in the

897
00:44:43,880 --> 00:44:47,560
Speaker 3: same realm. I think the Mets did more than what

898
00:44:47,640 --> 00:44:50,800
Speaker 3: the Phillies did. I think their additions and I agree

899
00:44:50,880 --> 00:44:53,520
Speaker 3: with what Bob said and what Bob said other GM said.

900
00:44:54,000 --> 00:44:56,560
Speaker 3: I feel like their additions in the bullpen are going

901
00:44:56,600 --> 00:44:59,320
Speaker 3: to make that team a problem. And it takes so

902
00:44:59,600 --> 00:45:04,600
Speaker 3: much pressure off of David Peterson, who has been pitching

903
00:45:04,719 --> 00:45:07,719
Speaker 3: really well. Takes pressure off of Sean and Iya, who's

904
00:45:07,760 --> 00:45:10,640
Speaker 3: coming back from injury and he's you know, hasn't pitched,

905
00:45:10,960 --> 00:45:14,000
Speaker 3: hasn't thrown that much this year. Frankie Montas who I

906
00:45:14,040 --> 00:45:16,240
Speaker 3: think they're playing with house money with what they've gotten

907
00:45:16,320 --> 00:45:19,680
Speaker 3: from him already. Code I sanga like it takes pressure

908
00:45:19,760 --> 00:45:22,840
Speaker 3: off of these guys, don't They don't need to go along.

909
00:45:23,160 --> 00:45:25,920
Speaker 3: And you're not just going to pieces in the bullpen.

910
00:45:26,480 --> 00:45:30,759
Speaker 3: You're going to absolute studs, from Reed Garrett to to

911
00:45:31,040 --> 00:45:36,359
Speaker 3: Rogers to Hellsley to Edwin Diaz. I'm forgetting something oh

912
00:45:36,960 --> 00:45:40,520
Speaker 3: Raley and Soto. I think the Mets, the moves they

913
00:45:40,600 --> 00:45:44,280
Speaker 3: made are a solid a or at least above the Phillies.

914
00:45:44,320 --> 00:45:45,960
Speaker 3: They can't be on the same realm as the Phillies.

915
00:45:49,239 --> 00:45:51,120
Speaker 2: Okay, well I thought, what the Phillies. It was nice

916
00:45:51,160 --> 00:45:53,360
Speaker 2: though they got another they got an outfielder, and they

917
00:45:53,400 --> 00:45:56,840
Speaker 2: got a closer for me, because where else are you

918
00:45:56,960 --> 00:45:58,600
Speaker 2: filling in places for the Phillies.

919
00:45:59,800 --> 00:46:01,560
Speaker 1: So so for me they're a minus and not an

920
00:46:01,560 --> 00:46:03,360
Speaker 1: A or an A plus because they could have gotten

921
00:46:03,400 --> 00:46:05,439
Speaker 1: one more reliever. For me, there's a couple of guys

922
00:46:05,480 --> 00:46:07,880
Speaker 1: that you could replace because now you have Super bowlpens

923
00:46:07,920 --> 00:46:10,480
Speaker 1: being built and their bullpen is good compared to those,

924
00:46:10,560 --> 00:46:12,640
Speaker 1: but not great. Right, there are a number of bullpens

925
00:46:12,680 --> 00:46:15,640
Speaker 1: still better than theirs. For me. On the Mets a minus.

926
00:46:15,840 --> 00:46:18,600
Speaker 1: They did everything they wanted to do. They didn't go overboard,

927
00:46:18,640 --> 00:46:21,640
Speaker 1: like for me, that's you get the one starter on

928
00:46:21,760 --> 00:46:24,239
Speaker 1: top of that, right, you get one more starter that

929
00:46:24,400 --> 00:46:28,239
Speaker 1: gets them the A or the A plus. You fill

930
00:46:28,280 --> 00:46:30,680
Speaker 1: your needs and then some you fill all of your needs.

931
00:46:30,920 --> 00:46:33,879
Speaker 1: You're in the A range. But that's to me where

932
00:46:33,920 --> 00:46:36,320
Speaker 1: it differs. Like I still had to have a separation

933
00:46:36,440 --> 00:46:40,600
Speaker 1: between the Padres and the Mets. Padres are an A,

934
00:46:40,800 --> 00:46:44,399
Speaker 1: Mets are an A minus. Okay, right, ye, Padres filled

935
00:46:44,400 --> 00:46:49,520
Speaker 1: all their needs and then some fair fair okay, fair, yeah,

936
00:46:49,600 --> 00:46:51,840
Speaker 1: Tigers for me, I'm actually that's that's the grade that

937
00:46:51,960 --> 00:46:54,440
Speaker 1: I wrote down that I probably regret. I put them

938
00:46:54,480 --> 00:46:56,440
Speaker 1: at B minus, and I think that they should be

939
00:46:56,480 --> 00:47:00,200
Speaker 1: in the C range. Boden put them at B. For me,

940
00:47:00,320 --> 00:47:03,960
Speaker 1: it's a ton of quantity, but no high leverage reliever,

941
00:47:05,360 --> 00:47:09,040
Speaker 1: no guaranteed high leverage reliever, and no right handed bat.

942
00:47:11,520 --> 00:47:14,040
Speaker 1: So I actually regret my B minus. I'd like to

943
00:47:15,000 --> 00:47:18,400
Speaker 1: give them a C R C Plusden gave me the

944
00:47:19,239 --> 00:47:21,759
Speaker 1: thank you. Boden gave the Orioles a B plus. He

945
00:47:21,960 --> 00:47:24,480
Speaker 1: liked their returns. You know what was interesting when I

946
00:47:24,520 --> 00:47:28,200
Speaker 1: started digging through their returns, Crats mostly a ball guys.

947
00:47:28,719 --> 00:47:31,960
Speaker 1: Seventeen year old shortstop Wilfree de la Cruz, nineteen year

948
00:47:31,960 --> 00:47:34,920
Speaker 1: old righty Boston Bateman, twenty year old shortstop Cob High

949
00:47:35,000 --> 00:47:38,960
Speaker 1: tower Man. They must feel like they're I'm not surprised.

950
00:47:39,000 --> 00:47:41,680
Speaker 1: It's just he must have assurance that front office must

951
00:47:41,719 --> 00:47:45,080
Speaker 1: have assurance that they're good, they're fine, because some people

952
00:47:45,120 --> 00:47:47,720
Speaker 1: are like, oh, well, Lias is gone after this season.

953
00:47:47,800 --> 00:47:51,400
Speaker 1: I don't think so. No, he's staying.

954
00:47:53,080 --> 00:47:55,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, I say he really likes his team going forward.

955
00:47:55,760 --> 00:47:59,000
Speaker 2: He's disappointed with his What do you say he's disappointed

956
00:47:59,040 --> 00:48:02,640
Speaker 2: with the trade deadline, but right here after incredibly busy

957
00:48:02,960 --> 00:48:06,320
Speaker 2: deadline for the Orioles, Elias is unhappy with how the

958
00:48:06,400 --> 00:48:07,840
Speaker 2: season is going to be happy with a group of

959
00:48:07,880 --> 00:48:10,879
Speaker 2: players he's acquired or sorry, twenty twenty five is gone

960
00:48:10,960 --> 00:48:11,480
Speaker 2: this way.

961
00:48:12,920 --> 00:48:16,399
Speaker 1: But see you next year's next year.

962
00:48:16,480 --> 00:48:19,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, they said, lots of prospects again, guys, get excited

963
00:48:19,960 --> 00:48:24,839
Speaker 2: for five years from No, my five year plan has readjusted.

964
00:48:25,000 --> 00:48:27,040
Speaker 3: Sorry, the big league guys or whatever you want to

965
00:48:27,120 --> 00:48:29,759
Speaker 3: call them, you know, I'm not even I don't really

966
00:48:29,840 --> 00:48:33,000
Speaker 3: care what they do because I just allotted myself five

967
00:48:33,120 --> 00:48:35,640
Speaker 3: more years only a ball guys.

968
00:48:36,239 --> 00:48:39,680
Speaker 1: Yep. Gotta wait until those guys prove themselves until you

969
00:48:39,800 --> 00:48:42,800
Speaker 1: evaluate me. Boden had a C plus for the Cardinals.

970
00:48:42,800 --> 00:48:45,360
Speaker 1: I give him a B. They traded their rental guys,

971
00:48:45,680 --> 00:48:50,160
Speaker 1: philm Aton, Ryan Helsley, Steven Mattz. They kept their longer

972
00:48:50,239 --> 00:48:51,480
Speaker 1: term guys, which I think they should.

973
00:48:51,520 --> 00:48:52,800
Speaker 2: They could have maybe moved a catcher.

974
00:48:53,719 --> 00:48:57,000
Speaker 1: Okay, but that's why B B for me makes sense.

975
00:48:57,000 --> 00:49:02,120
Speaker 1: I thought C plus from him was too harsh. Okay, Dodgers,

976
00:49:02,360 --> 00:49:04,040
Speaker 1: he gave him a B plus. I gave him a B.

977
00:49:04,560 --> 00:49:08,200
Speaker 1: I mean, there's not a ton that that they need

978
00:49:08,280 --> 00:49:11,359
Speaker 1: to replace. They need to get healthier. Brock Stewart could

979
00:49:11,400 --> 00:49:15,120
Speaker 1: be a high leverage guy for that, not playing for him,

980
00:49:15,160 --> 00:49:18,239
Speaker 1: So they put in Alex Call, who I didn't realize me.

981
00:49:18,280 --> 00:49:20,400
Speaker 1: I knew he was having a good year plus defense

982
00:49:20,560 --> 00:49:23,520
Speaker 1: and speed one nineteen ops plus he could be one

983
00:49:23,560 --> 00:49:27,600
Speaker 1: of those guys that Andrew Friedman falls in love with. Yeah,

984
00:49:28,400 --> 00:49:30,760
Speaker 1: so it's a B for me. Kratz.

985
00:49:33,360 --> 00:49:35,799
Speaker 2: Sure, I guess nothing. Nothing.

986
00:49:35,840 --> 00:49:38,120
Speaker 3: The Dodgers can be below a bee. I mean, I

987
00:49:38,160 --> 00:49:40,840
Speaker 3: don't think they needed a lot. Brock Stewart's gonna be awesome.

988
00:49:41,600 --> 00:49:43,360
Speaker 3: He's gonna throw a lot more change ups now. I

989
00:49:43,400 --> 00:49:46,880
Speaker 3: think he's a change up, change up heater guy, and

990
00:49:46,960 --> 00:49:49,080
Speaker 3: Alex Call is gonna fill in for him. They didn't

991
00:49:49,080 --> 00:49:52,800
Speaker 3: really need to get other guys like the I joked

992
00:49:52,800 --> 00:49:57,000
Speaker 3: about NLCS MVP, but Alex Call plays was playing and

993
00:49:57,200 --> 00:50:00,920
Speaker 3: last year I watched a NAT's game in Philly and

994
00:50:01,520 --> 00:50:03,560
Speaker 3: he plays a nice right field. I don't know where

995
00:50:03,560 --> 00:50:06,320
Speaker 3: he's gonna play, probably more left, you know, maybe that

996
00:50:06,440 --> 00:50:09,120
Speaker 3: platoon with Confordo that they've been trying to figure out.

997
00:50:10,080 --> 00:50:14,000
Speaker 2: But it's a nice piece B. Sure you can.

998
00:50:16,000 --> 00:50:18,040
Speaker 1: Last last one for me, I have the Angels and

999
00:50:18,120 --> 00:50:21,040
Speaker 1: Braves as d's I mean, Brave. You gotta trade Rycel Glaciers.

1000
00:50:21,080 --> 00:50:22,840
Speaker 1: Somebody wanted him. If you couldn't trade a Zooner, you

1001
00:50:22,880 --> 00:50:24,640
Speaker 1: got to trade Riysel, Like, what are you keeping him for?

1002
00:50:24,760 --> 00:50:26,840
Speaker 1: It's free agent. After this year, we've gone over the

1003
00:50:26,880 --> 00:50:29,040
Speaker 1: White Sox a lot. You can look at other videos

1004
00:50:29,080 --> 00:50:31,840
Speaker 1: with Luis Robert, they get a D. He gave the

1005
00:50:31,920 --> 00:50:33,880
Speaker 1: Angels a D. I give him a C minus. I

1006
00:50:34,080 --> 00:50:36,239
Speaker 1: give him credit for not selling and trying. At least

1007
00:50:36,600 --> 00:50:39,280
Speaker 1: they didn't give anything up. They got Luis Garcia and Chaffin.

1008
00:50:39,760 --> 00:50:41,719
Speaker 1: Do they have the pitching the last I don't think so.

1009
00:50:42,360 --> 00:50:44,879
Speaker 1: But what they could have sold Ken Lee, Taylor, Ward,

1010
00:50:44,960 --> 00:50:47,479
Speaker 1: Tyler Anderson, I don't know how much they would have gotten,

1011
00:50:47,560 --> 00:50:50,719
Speaker 1: So I'm okay with it C minus obviously they didn't add.

1012
00:50:50,880 --> 00:50:56,040
Speaker 1: But D to me is a little too hard. They're there, Yeah,

1013
00:50:56,080 --> 00:50:58,440
Speaker 1: I'm just kind of there. That's what Caesar for. I mean,

1014
00:50:58,480 --> 00:50:59,719
Speaker 1: the Red Sox and the Cubs are in the C

1015
00:51:00,280 --> 00:51:04,399
Speaker 1: for me because they're there too, right. They still did things.

1016
00:51:04,440 --> 00:51:06,120
Speaker 1: They just didn't do enough, so it doesn't give you

1017
00:51:06,200 --> 00:51:10,040
Speaker 1: a D. D is like you did nothing or screwed

1018
00:51:10,160 --> 00:51:13,160
Speaker 1: up what you did, or screwed up what you did.

1019
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1027
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Speaker 1: All right, let's slap. I do want to get to

1028
00:51:47,680 --> 00:51:49,800
Speaker 1: the Craig Breslow quote. That's the one we didn't get to,

1029
00:51:49,840 --> 00:51:52,200
Speaker 1: and that's what he said, and that one he can't

1030
00:51:52,400 --> 00:51:55,040
Speaker 1: let that one go. The Red Sox. There's two. The

1031
00:51:55,120 --> 00:51:59,920
Speaker 1: Red Sox got uncomfortably aggressive in pursuit of real impact players,

1032
00:52:00,040 --> 00:52:02,919
Speaker 1: but in the end they settled for lower profile moves.

1033
00:52:02,960 --> 00:52:05,600
Speaker 1: That one from Tim Healy, but from the Craig Breslow

1034
00:52:05,680 --> 00:52:09,640
Speaker 1: press conference, uncomfortably aggressive. It was so uncomfortable that they

1035
00:52:09,719 --> 00:52:14,440
Speaker 1: actually didn't get the guys. And Jen McCaffrey from The

1036
00:52:14,520 --> 00:52:16,640
Speaker 1: Athletic said that they reached out to the twins on

1037
00:52:16,760 --> 00:52:18,719
Speaker 1: Joe Ryan, but were unwilling to offer any of their

1038
00:52:18,719 --> 00:52:22,440
Speaker 1: big league outfielders okay, or an enticing enough package of

1039
00:52:22,520 --> 00:52:26,120
Speaker 1: their top tier prospects. According to sources, it's a great

1040
00:52:26,239 --> 00:52:28,759
Speaker 1: article that she put together. Unless you're a Red Sox fan,

1041
00:52:29,120 --> 00:52:32,480
Speaker 1: you will lose your mind if you read that article.

1042
00:52:32,640 --> 00:52:35,360
Speaker 1: It is so frustrating to hear all of the quotes.

1043
00:52:35,400 --> 00:52:40,719
Speaker 1: I understand the frustration. Really young, exciting club blah blah blah. Right,

1044
00:52:41,600 --> 00:52:44,880
Speaker 1: and Cora even called them out towards the end of

1045
00:52:44,960 --> 00:52:46,960
Speaker 1: the first half. He's like, they're like, how do you

1046
00:52:47,000 --> 00:52:49,080
Speaker 1: prevent a second half swoon? And he's like, we make

1047
00:52:49,160 --> 00:52:51,640
Speaker 1: big pickups. I mean paraphrasing, but he said it. He's like,

1048
00:52:51,719 --> 00:52:55,440
Speaker 1: we make big pickups. You know they didn't.

1049
00:52:57,000 --> 00:52:57,560
Speaker 2: No, they did not.

1050
00:52:57,960 --> 00:53:04,319
Speaker 1: Yeah, cust to meat chieve a Matt, That's it. That's

1051
00:53:04,360 --> 00:53:04,799
Speaker 1: all they did.

1052
00:53:05,880 --> 00:53:08,640
Speaker 2: More. Yeah talks fans are super duper heavy right now.

1053
00:53:10,840 --> 00:53:13,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, they said not even I mean most said not

1054
00:53:13,280 --> 00:53:15,719
Speaker 1: even close with what they threw out there.

1055
00:53:19,520 --> 00:53:22,520
Speaker 3: So basically the problem is they were hoping teams would

1056
00:53:22,520 --> 00:53:24,760
Speaker 3: just give them their their best players.

1057
00:53:26,560 --> 00:53:28,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, and what what was it?

1058
00:53:29,400 --> 00:53:30,760
Speaker 2: What awkwardly aggressive?

1059
00:53:30,800 --> 00:53:34,759
Speaker 1: What was uncomfortably aggressive? Here's the after the Devers deal,

1060
00:53:34,840 --> 00:53:36,879
Speaker 1: Breslo said, I think we've talked a lot about looking

1061
00:53:36,880 --> 00:53:38,640
Speaker 1: at the future. At some point the future has to

1062
00:53:38,719 --> 00:53:43,280
Speaker 1: be now. Sorry I spit out my drink.

1063
00:53:44,560 --> 00:53:45,239
Speaker 2: The future is.

1064
00:53:45,280 --> 00:53:46,399
Speaker 1: Now or twenty six.

1065
00:53:48,120 --> 00:53:49,120
Speaker 2: They're going full throttle.

1066
00:53:49,880 --> 00:53:52,400
Speaker 1: You can win a share of one hundred thousand dollars

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1070
00:54:03,640 --> 00:54:06,759
Speaker 1: on a player or players with the longest home run

1071
00:54:06,960 --> 00:54:08,680
Speaker 1: of the day to win your share of one hundred

1072
00:54:08,719 --> 00:54:11,440
Speaker 1: thousand dollars in bonus bets. No opten necessary, just to

1073
00:54:11,440 --> 00:54:15,120
Speaker 1: apply your Big five Friday qualifying token that is dropped

1074
00:54:15,120 --> 00:54:16,960
Speaker 1: into your account to use on the first player or

1075
00:54:17,080 --> 00:54:20,120
Speaker 1: players that you take to hit a home run every Friday.

1076
00:54:20,520 --> 00:54:24,960
Speaker 1: It's a great, great deal or offer, and if you

1077
00:54:25,120 --> 00:54:27,560
Speaker 1: like to do home run props, this is the spot

1078
00:54:27,680 --> 00:54:29,560
Speaker 1: to do it because you have a chance to win

1079
00:54:29,760 --> 00:54:32,799
Speaker 1: way more than just your home run prop. Gambling problem

1080
00:54:32,840 --> 00:54:34,480
Speaker 1: more concern call went and under gambler