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Speaker 1: From UFOs to psychic powers and government conspiracies. History is

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Speaker 1: riddled with unexplained events. You can turn back now or

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Speaker 1: learn this stuff they don't want you to know. A

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Speaker 1: production of iHeartRadio.

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Speaker 2: Hello, welcome back to the show. My name is Matt,

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Speaker 2: my name is Noah.

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Speaker 3: They call me Ben. We're joined as always with our

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Speaker 3: super producer Dylan the Tennessee pal Fagan. Most importantly, you

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Speaker 3: are you. You are here. That makes this the stuff

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Speaker 3: they don't want you to know. Friends and neighbors, fellow

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Speaker 3: conspiracy realist, we are coming to you on October thirty first,

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Speaker 3: a Friday, twenty twenty five. Happy Halloween. As we're recording this,

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Speaker 3: it's not going to be coming out until later in November,

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Speaker 3: but you know tis the season.

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Speaker 4: Welcome for extending the merriment on your There we go.

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Speaker 2: We do it every year on the show. You get

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Speaker 2: a little extra.

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Speaker 3: Spooky, right right. We hope everybody enjoyed our oh our

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Speaker 3: shout out to our alma mater house. Stuff works with

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Speaker 3: our recent episode how Selling Your Soul Works, which did

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Speaker 3: come out on October thirty first, and Noel, just to

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Speaker 3: get in the spirit here while we're all having a

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Speaker 3: time off air, you were saying, you have a Halloween

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Speaker 3: anecdote to share? Boy, do I ever?

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Speaker 4: I got my day off to a spooky bang. I

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Speaker 4: Looking around my house, calling out, looking under beds, opening

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Speaker 4: What were you calling out?

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Speaker 3: Where you say hello? Hello? You saying child?

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Speaker 1: No.

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Speaker 4: I may or may not have spoken aloud, but I

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Speaker 2: And your cat began to speak.

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Speaker 3: Million and my cat does have a bit of a

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Speaker 4: But I called my kid just to like, you know,

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Speaker 4: trauma dump on somebody. And they were the only one

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Speaker 4: I knew would be up. It was six thirty in

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Speaker 4: the morning, and they just start cackling uncontrollably because apparently

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Speaker 5: Spooky Halloween sas nice, nice way to And apparently it

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Speaker 5: spook their sister and mom and like we do the

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Speaker 5: Halloween prank.

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Speaker 4: But boy, oh boy, it just was one of those

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Speaker 4: moments where I truly for a second believed something supernatural

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Speaker 3: You're you're feeling better, though? Oh yes, I feel great it.

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Speaker 3: I mean, honestly, at the end of the day, it

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Speaker 3: you gotta Halloween story? Not really.

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Speaker 2: I have one thing to say though. I've recently watched

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Speaker 2: remember the very opening title card of that movie, which

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Speaker 2: I did not remember. I'm gonna read it because it's

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Speaker 3: Sure, please do quote.

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Speaker 2: There are thousands of miles of tunnels beneath the continental

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Speaker 3: And drop that.

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Speaker 4: And yet you know, PRIs you're the pump of your mind.

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Speaker 4: But they don't deliver on that for quite a bit, right.

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Speaker 3: Well without without spoiling it. As you guys know, I'm

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Speaker 3: is merely the soundtrack. We This is an excellent segue here, Matt.

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Speaker 3: I'm happy to share a Halloween's story if anybody wants. Oh, oh,

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Speaker 3: the wind. I love the poetry there, Noel, So our

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Speaker 3: Does the United States government have a vast secret city underground?

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Speaker 3: If so, come on, like why and can we get in?

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Speaker 3: How do I check it out? I'd like to take

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Speaker 2: How come?

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Speaker 3: What for? Yeah? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, quibono? Who benefits?

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Speaker 3: Sure about that? That's why? Right right by the way,

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Speaker 3: A chair company, y'all?

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Speaker 4: Banger Yeah yeah, dig it, dug in Yeah, sorry, I

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Speaker 3: Can you believe it? But she's beautiful, but she's dying trips.

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Speaker 3: Here are the facts, all right. We got to start

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Speaker 3: with this. I feel like we always have to start

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Speaker 3: with this part bunkers are not inherently bad. Being prepared

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Speaker 3: not to sound too eagle scoutish and programmed. Being prepared

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Speaker 3: is cool, right, Like, if you can have your own bunker,

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Speaker 3: why would you not got a basement. It's kind of

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Speaker 2: Yeah, right, And bunkers are important in all wars. Guess

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Speaker 2: what are created bunkers?

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Speaker 3: Why? Safety?

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Speaker 4: They literally have weapons called bunker busters, right, that's where

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Speaker 4: they have to tell they get your bunk.

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Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, and we're bonkers for bunkers.

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Speaker 4: Yes, well maybe Billy's bunkers for bunker busters.

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Speaker 2: Governments have known for a long time. Hey, with all

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Speaker 2: going down, Wow, building underneath the earth. Yes, probably a

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Speaker 2: great idea to save not only operations, but all of

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Speaker 3: Yep. We're on record multiple times talking about our various

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Speaker 3: own bunkers, hideaways, or emergency shelters. Shows shout out to

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Speaker 3: you guys, a panic room. Is there a crossover?

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Speaker 4: Is there a Venn diagram? Yes, not all bunkers or

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Speaker 2: Yeah, in this case, as long as the panic room

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Speaker 3: So a panic room is the room where you go

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Speaker 3: for a short term panic. The bunker is the room

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Speaker 3: Did you guys ever make it over to that very

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Speaker 2: While underground Atlanta.

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Speaker 3: It was in Atlanta, and it did have both great

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Speaker 3: it is very difficult to determine exactly how many quote

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Speaker 3: So that's why Parker, why are you going to tell people?

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Speaker 4: That's why you get close to no one? That is

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Speaker 4: I mean talking about talking about stockpiling weapons for your

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Speaker 3: The order of operation of resource gathering. Yeah, so with

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Speaker 3: being private bunkers. It's an umbrella term. It counts everything

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Speaker 2: Serious question, do you guys think somebody like Zuckerberg, somebody

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Speaker 3: there's a very interesting guest on this. We know this

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Speaker 4: Yes, the claim that the US has spent twenty one

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Speaker 2: It seems it seems so extraordinary, right, you would need

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Speaker 3: So our question becomes, could this idea, the idea twenty

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Speaker 3: She's donated to. Looked at her donation records. She's donated

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Speaker 3: Let's go to a brief timeline. In two thousand and four,

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Speaker 4: She and her co author Chris Sanders, claims to find quote.

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Speaker 4: Groups in the service of powerful, private invested interests, often

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Speaker 3: Beautifully done for the more centical among us. This isn't

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Speaker 3: are from Kazakhstan anyway, in such Apple But Johnny Appleseed

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Speaker 3: and Old But Johnny Appleseed. Tune into our episode on

438
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Speaker 3: that coming up. But in some cases it's an ugly

439
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Speaker 3: truth that secrecy is absolutely requisite, as it's problematic to

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Speaker 3: admit it because this concept gets abused all the time

441
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Speaker 3: by bad faith actors. But sometimes you really can't tell

442
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Speaker 3: Congress where the money is going because doing so would

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Speaker 3: compromise national security. Look no further than things like Oakridge

444
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Speaker 3: right back in the days of nuclear research. But the

445
00:26:08,840 --> 00:26:13,280
Speaker 3: thing is Fits and Sanders go a bit further here.

446
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Speaker 3: They're claiming this is somehow more conspiratorial, that powerful private

447
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Speaker 3: interests have essentially metastasized within public institutions and now they're

448
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Speaker 3: sock puppeting them for their own again private gay.

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Speaker 4: So she's against this, she's against this.

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Speaker 3: H he's not a fan letter. Yeah, it's hard.

451
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Speaker 4: To tell with some of these folks, you know, like

452
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Speaker 4: secret underground Elitis Bunker or again.

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Speaker 3: And as we'll see the headlines, especially the ones I

454
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Speaker 3: originally found strange news. Those are a little bit breathless

455
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Speaker 3: and they're missing some nuance of fits his statements. And

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Speaker 3: that was that was back in two thousand and what

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Speaker 3: we save four when her and Chris Sanders said there's

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Speaker 3: something screwy with money.

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Speaker 2: Well, just to stay in that era for a second,

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Speaker 2: we looked very hard at the Iraq war and spending

461
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Speaker 2: in cash and what money that went missing, and it

462
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Speaker 2: made us think about the two thousand and seven reporting

463
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Speaker 2: out of a lot of places about billions of dollars

464
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Speaker 2: in cash that went missing when the US sent literally

465
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Speaker 2: a palette, not a palette, palettes and palettes and pallets

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Speaker 2: and palettes and palettes of billions of dollars twelve billion

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Speaker 2: over to Iraq and it just vanished into a war zone.

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Speaker 2: And you just imagine that kind of use of money

469
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Speaker 2: right by a government by militaries. And then you go

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Speaker 2: back to this concept of could they be sock puppeted

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Speaker 2: by like R and D companies?

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Speaker 3: Can you clarify that term again?

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Speaker 4: I mean, I know we've used it a lot and

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Speaker 4: everyone probably knows, but that in this context, sock puppeting is.

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Speaker 3: Sock puppeting in this context would be at least from

476
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Speaker 3: my perspective, it would describe the mechanism where a private

477
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Speaker 3: institution has regulatory capture over some public or state run activities.

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Speaker 3: So think of like a contractor like Halliburton, for instance.

479
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Speaker 3: They have the people in place to get funding approved

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Speaker 3: from the DoD for any given number of initiatives, and

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Speaker 3: so they have the people who say yes, and those

482
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Speaker 3: people are Halliburton people, even though they're technically DoD people.

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Speaker 3: And so now they've got a rubber stamp committee such

484
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Speaker 3: that whomever is approving these expenditures is not following the

485
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Speaker 3: rules of Uncle Sam. They're doing what Halliburton's board of

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Speaker 3: directors tell them.

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Speaker 4: Well, and it would seem that folks on maybe the

488
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Speaker 4: more right side of the political divide are all about

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Speaker 4: this level of privatization, like it's kind of a feature,

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Speaker 4: not a bug.

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Speaker 3: Right, It happens in some cases, but historically war profiteering

492
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Speaker 3: is seen as a great sin on all sides of

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Speaker 3: the political divide. Now I like your point there, Noel,

494
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Speaker 3: because depending upon which perspective we assume, will see that

495
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Speaker 3: everybody in any imaginable position is aware of these sorts

496
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Speaker 3: of shenanigans, and they get mad about the ones that

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Speaker 3: don't benefit them.

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Speaker 2: There you go, Yeah, Well, as you think about outfits

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Speaker 2: like Northrop Grumman and some of the weapons manufacturers, and

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Speaker 2: you think about the large numbers of government contracts that

501
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Speaker 2: go to those guys, and what is the dependency ratio?

502
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Speaker 2: Is the government dependent on the contractor who builds the

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Speaker 2: weapons to maintain superiority or is there more weight to

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Speaker 2: put on the government itself It already has a certain

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Speaker 2: number of weapons and they don't need the new weapons

506
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Speaker 2: and the upkeep and all that stuff from the contractors.

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Speaker 2: Like who what is the dependency ratio? I guess is

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Speaker 2: what I'm thinking, Because then those folks could theoretically sock

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Speaker 2: puppet large amounts of a huge government apparatus. Right.

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Speaker 3: Another example, one from the kind of textbooks that a

511
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Speaker 3: lot of American kids don't get, would be the company

512
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Speaker 3: or the Central Intelligence Agency. So who decides who decides

513
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Speaker 3: the order of operations or priority for foreign government interference

514
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Speaker 3: on behalf of the CIA? Is it indeed the US

515
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Speaker 3: government or is it a tricky hand and glove agglomeration

516
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Speaker 3: of things like United Fruit and very powerful corporate interests

517
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Speaker 3: that have friends in the shop the company. That's another example,

518
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Speaker 3: because we have to remember that the United States is

519
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Speaker 3: long held on paper a separation of church and state,

520
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Speaker 3: but never a separation between private industry and state. Which

521
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Speaker 3: is fascinating, is it not. Oh yeah, let's fast forward.

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Speaker 3: It's twenty seventeen and fits kind of the hero or

523
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Speaker 3: protagonist of our story has Double Dragon partnered up with

524
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Speaker 3: an economist out of Michigan State University, a guy named

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Speaker 3: Mark Skidmore. This is the one that caught our collective

526
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Speaker 3: eye for our weekly Strange News program. The headline is

527
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Speaker 3: that they claim, over a seventeen year period, they found

528
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Speaker 3: the US Department of Defense and the US Department of

529
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Speaker 3: Housing and Urban Development had, as you said, no secreted

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Speaker 3: away twenty one trillion with the T dollars in unauthorized spending.

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Speaker 3: So for some back of the case of da math,

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Speaker 3: that equates to something like sixty five thousand dollars per

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Speaker 3: person in the US. It is a lot of money.

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Speaker 3: And it doesn't matter who you did or did not

535
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Speaker 3: vote for during this seventeen year time period, no matter

536
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Speaker 3: who was in office, this grift was happening around the clock.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's in a weird way too, because it's

538
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Speaker 2: not like there's just some fun that all this money

539
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Speaker 2: went into, right it.

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Speaker 3: There's not like a file mapped stamped secret.

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Speaker 2: No. Right, there's a file mapped, no receipt, no information.

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00:32:37,640 --> 00:32:41,040
Speaker 3: Right. That's yeah. They're like all those people hide and

543
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Speaker 3: poured on their laptop. There's a file that just says taxes.

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Speaker 2: Well, yeah, but who knows where that money actually? Who

545
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Speaker 2: knows where that money actually went. It's really it's so

546
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Speaker 2: dang troubling. And we're talking like Forbes writing about this.

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Speaker 2: This isn't something to post somewhere.

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Speaker 3: Right, Yeah. And our buddy, the economist Skidmore got involved

549
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Speaker 3: in twenty sixteen because he heard Catherine Fitz refer to

550
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Speaker 3: a report that indicated the US Army had six point

551
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Speaker 3: five trillion in what we call unsupported adjustments or spending

552
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Speaker 3: in the fiscal year of twenty fifteen. The Army at

553
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Speaker 3: the time had a budget of one hundred and twenty

554
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Speaker 3: two billion, not trillion, and so that meant logically that

555
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Speaker 3: these unsupported adjustments, which is a hell of a euphemism,

556
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Speaker 3: were fifty four times the spending that was officially authorized

557
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Speaker 3: by Congress, which is just we will bore you with

558
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Speaker 3: the quote. But that is a thing that is in

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Speaker 3: the Constitution. The US was They're very vague about a

560
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Speaker 3: lot of stuff in the beginning, because the Constitution is

561
00:33:53,080 --> 00:33:55,520
Speaker 3: kind of a weird pitch meeting, right, But they were

562
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Speaker 3: super explicit about some of the money. And typically these

563
00:34:00,160 --> 00:34:03,479
Speaker 3: unsupported adjustments are supposed to give you a bit of

564
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Speaker 3: financial agility or dexterity. It's a little course correction, like

565
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Speaker 3: when you're landing a plane and you got to get

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Speaker 3: to the right part of the runway. They're not supposed

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Speaker 3: to be a big deal. They're supposed to be a

568
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Speaker 3: teens tiny, infinitesimal fraction of adjustment. That's why they're called

569
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Speaker 3: unsupported adjustments.

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Speaker 2: Just six point five trillion. Here's a quote from Forbes

571
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Speaker 2: talking about what unsupported means. It just says, quote, they

572
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Speaker 2: lack supporting documentation to justify the adjustment or are not

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Speaker 2: tied to a specific accounting transaction. Right, So literally just

574
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Speaker 2: playing with the money.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, just messing with the money. Shut out culture kings. Hey,

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Speaker 3: I get ip. Yeah, So at first, logically, our economist skidmore,

577
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Speaker 3: he looks at he looks at fits his receipts, He

578
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Speaker 3: looks at her homework, her research, all published, all transparent,

579
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Speaker 3: and he said, okay, look, I'm not being a jerk.

580
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Speaker 3: I'm just by vocation and economists. So there has to

581
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Speaker 3: be a mistake. This doesn't make sense. He thought Fits

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Speaker 3: must have somehow in the editing process meant six point

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Speaker 3: five billion and not six point five trillion, And so

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Speaker 3: he would later go on to say, multiple interviews, I

585
00:35:23,800 --> 00:35:29,160
Speaker 3: found the report myself, and sure enough it was six

586
00:35:29,239 --> 00:35:33,320
Speaker 3: point five trillion dollars. So he reaches out to fits.

587
00:35:33,440 --> 00:35:36,480
Speaker 3: Fits and Skidmore are asking what gives? Where is all

588
00:35:36,480 --> 00:35:40,680
Speaker 3: this dark money going? What on Earth is happening? Date

589
00:35:40,840 --> 00:35:43,280
Speaker 3: or off of earth? As we'll see, They investigate further,

590
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Speaker 3: and they put together a team like a Ocean's eleven

591
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Speaker 3: had a high steam of grad students. Can I be

592
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Speaker 3: the bag man? Of course, you're always the bat. You're

593
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Speaker 3: my bagman for sure. Man, I won't tolerate another. And

594
00:35:56,560 --> 00:36:00,600
Speaker 3: they scoured government archives for more info. They look especially

595
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Speaker 3: at the Office of the Inspector General, and they target,

596
00:36:04,160 --> 00:36:09,360
Speaker 3: as Matt mentioned earlier, any similar documents, by which we

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Speaker 3: mean anything with a familiar discrepancy dating as far back

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Speaker 3: as nineteen ninety eight. They spend two years doing this

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Speaker 3: from twenty twenty one to twenty twenty three, and they

600
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Speaker 3: strike gold. They find documents indicating that total of twenty

601
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Speaker 3: one trillion dollars in undocumented adjustments occurs over the time

602
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Speaker 3: period of nineteen ninety eight to twenty fifteen. And they

603
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Speaker 3: don't know what happens before ninety eight. They don't know

604
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Speaker 3: what happens after fifteen. They had to scope in.

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Speaker 2: Dude, guys, this is why I think fits lands On

606
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Speaker 2: that one hundred and seventy or whatever. I think she

607
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Speaker 2: uses the one hundred and seventy term in her statements.

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Speaker 2: There are one hundred and seventy such.

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Speaker 3: Bunkers underground bases books.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so so our person, Mark Skidmore found that there

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Speaker 2: were one hundred and seventy transactions in a single year

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Speaker 2: that accounted for two point one trillion dollars. So imagine

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Speaker 2: one hundred and seventy divided by two point one trillion,

614
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Speaker 2: and then try to imagine how huge those transfers must

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Speaker 2: have been.

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Speaker 3: And at this point, as they're sussing things out and

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Speaker 3: as they're assembling their forensic accounting, they are confident they've

618
00:37:29,600 --> 00:37:33,719
Speaker 3: proven some Shenanigans are recurring on a gargantuan scale, but

619
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Speaker 3: they don't quite know the end game, and they have

620
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Speaker 3: to ask themselves, is this a case of multiple smaller

621
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Speaker 3: grifts using the same tactics. Are there a bunch of

622
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Speaker 3: little bad guys? Or is there something larger at play?

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Speaker 3: And then they notice this is some umami right here, folks.

624
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Speaker 3: They notice that as they reach out to various agencies,

625
00:37:54,840 --> 00:37:59,799
Speaker 3: various departments, various offices, they get dismissed, they get put off,

626
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Speaker 3: they get stonewalled, and then later lo and behold. After

627
00:38:04,080 --> 00:38:08,040
Speaker 3: they make these conversations and provide their receipts, evidence of

628
00:38:08,120 --> 00:38:12,480
Speaker 3: the stuff they're asking about gets scrubbed from public access,

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Speaker 3: wiped off the web. No foia for you, it says,

630
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Speaker 3: though it never existed. And so they didn't give up,

631
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Speaker 3: and they still didn't have an answer, And eventually Fitz

632
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Speaker 3: believes that her and her team do find the answer.

633
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Speaker 3: And what is the answer they believed they found will

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Speaker 3: tell you afterword from our sponsors.

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Speaker 2: Attention, Attention, this is not a test. Attention, this is

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Speaker 2: not a test. If you are hearing this message, take

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Speaker 2: cover immediately, repeat, take cover immediately. Do not attempt to

638
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Speaker 2: reach your home or loved ones.

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Speaker 3: Take cover immediately.

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Speaker 2: This is not a test.

641
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Speaker 3: Oh God, I have to get to my family.

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00:38:55,160 --> 00:39:00,680
Speaker 5: Not so fast, friends, these are the days right.

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Speaker 3: Thank you? Why I might just be the thing that

644
00:39:03,280 --> 00:39:06,560
Speaker 3: saves your life. Look, of course all the humans want

645
00:39:06,600 --> 00:39:10,360
Speaker 3: to reach their families, but think of the traffic. No, sadly,

646
00:39:10,680 --> 00:39:13,520
Speaker 3: no hope of reaching them in time. Just look at

647
00:39:13,520 --> 00:39:16,960
Speaker 3: the sky. Do you see that mushroom cloud on the horizon.

648
00:39:17,280 --> 00:39:20,320
Speaker 3: We've got about ten minutes to scurry into a bunker.

649
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Speaker 3: Who a weird toast.

650
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Speaker 4: We're in the middle of downtown.

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Speaker 3: Why are you so calm? Oh? Why, it's simple. You see,

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Speaker 3: I'm a proud member of bunk them up, the newest

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Speaker 3: we're back. Let's go to the Tucker Carlson Show where

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Speaker 3: we kind of teased what they thought all these financial

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Speaker 3: shenanigans were for. They have ultimately concluded, Uncle Sam, the

696
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Speaker 3: United States government in secret used this twenty one trillion

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Speaker 3: dollars to create a network of one hundred and seventy

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Speaker 3: ish hidden underground bases.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and in addition to that, Fits also claimed to

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Speaker 4: have found evidence of massive supporting infrastructure construction, along with

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Speaker 4: a transport system and a network of you know, roads

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Speaker 4: and highways and highways underground, some of it underneath the ocean. Yes,

703
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Speaker 4: and these are sort of arteries between these different facilities.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's pretty bizarre. I mean, Fits is also, to

705
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Speaker 3: her credit and her team's credit, pretty transparent in her

706
00:42:51,480 --> 00:42:56,640
Speaker 3: statements about what she does not know yet. So neither

707
00:42:56,800 --> 00:43:00,880
Speaker 3: she nor Skidmore claimed to know the exact local of

708
00:43:00,920 --> 00:43:04,280
Speaker 3: these underground bases. Neither of them claim to know exactly

709
00:43:04,320 --> 00:43:06,560
Speaker 3: who gets in when the poop hits the fan, and

710
00:43:06,640 --> 00:43:08,879
Speaker 3: so on. And they also say, we don't know how

711
00:43:08,920 --> 00:43:11,400
Speaker 3: big every base is. We don't know if they're all

712
00:43:12,160 --> 00:43:17,000
Speaker 3: currently in use or regularly occupied by staff. We don't

713
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Speaker 3: know what it looks like in the inside. We don't

714
00:43:18,840 --> 00:43:21,600
Speaker 3: know how many people can be housed there for how long.

715
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Speaker 3: We don't know what kind of amenities or resources they have.

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Speaker 2: But they also don't have any evidence that any of

717
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Speaker 2: this is actually happening.

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Speaker 3: Right, that's correct. Yeah. While they seem to have certitude

719
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Speaker 3: about what they're saying, as we'll see later in the episode,

720
00:43:36,320 --> 00:43:39,760
Speaker 3: they don't have hard proof of this, at least anything

721
00:43:39,800 --> 00:43:43,399
Speaker 3: that's been publicly confirmed or acknowledged, And we should later

722
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Speaker 3: talk about what kind of proof that would have to be,

723
00:43:45,920 --> 00:43:49,960
Speaker 3: because extraordinary claims require extraordinary proof.

724
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Speaker 2: Yeah, if you break down that twenty one trillion by

725
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Speaker 2: one hundred and seventy, that constitutes about one hundred and

726
00:43:54,680 --> 00:43:58,839
Speaker 2: twenty three billion dollars a piece. I think something like that. So, like,

727
00:44:00,280 --> 00:44:04,359
Speaker 2: imagine the type of structure that you could build for

728
00:44:04,480 --> 00:44:07,600
Speaker 2: that amount of money one hundred and twenty three billion

729
00:44:07,719 --> 00:44:11,680
Speaker 2: dollars over the course of you know, almost thirty years.

730
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Speaker 2: That's you could You could make something crazy. And we're

731
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Speaker 2: not we're not just talking about underground bases. We're talking

732
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Speaker 2: about tunnel systems. They would have to be bored, right

733
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Speaker 2: because in the statement she said they're all connected by

734
00:44:25,600 --> 00:44:29,120
Speaker 2: a secret tunnel system, like all of these facilities that

735
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Speaker 2: are built that they allege and they all She also

736
00:44:31,520 --> 00:44:34,720
Speaker 2: alleged that there's a secret power system or a secret

737
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Speaker 2: power source that only the government has access to to

738
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Speaker 2: to power everything underground that they're using. Maybe I don't know,

739
00:44:42,600 --> 00:44:44,400
Speaker 2: and when I'm trying to imagine all these things, like

740
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Speaker 2: what they're thinking it could be and what it could

741
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Speaker 2: look like and how it could actually function with that

742
00:44:48,800 --> 00:44:53,360
Speaker 2: amount of money. Yeah, you have to also factor in

743
00:44:53,560 --> 00:44:56,040
Speaker 2: all of that other stuff that would you know, we

744
00:44:56,320 --> 00:44:58,920
Speaker 2: see with the boring company, right, Tesla's boring company, and

745
00:44:58,920 --> 00:45:01,600
Speaker 2: all the stuff they're doing around Las Vegas and they're

746
00:45:01,600 --> 00:45:03,960
Speaker 2: boring these huge, huge holes, and the stuff they're trying

747
00:45:04,000 --> 00:45:07,279
Speaker 2: to do in Dubai, and just how expensive those projects

748
00:45:07,360 --> 00:45:11,160
Speaker 2: cost for just to connect to resorts in Las Vegas,

749
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Speaker 2: how expensive that process is, and then to make that

750
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Speaker 2: stuff safe. You can just see you would need you

751
00:45:17,560 --> 00:45:20,800
Speaker 2: would need trillions of dollars to make something like this happen.

752
00:45:21,280 --> 00:45:23,360
Speaker 2: The question is, as you said, Ben, how do you

753
00:45:23,480 --> 00:45:26,280
Speaker 2: prove that that's actually what's happening with this money?

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Speaker 3: And from Fitz's perspective, at least public statements, these are

755
00:45:32,120 --> 00:45:36,040
Speaker 3: not opulent vacation homes like the Zuckerberg complex or that

756
00:45:36,640 --> 00:45:40,520
Speaker 3: wackad do stuff in New Zealand. There emergency bolt holes

757
00:45:41,160 --> 00:45:44,959
Speaker 3: for scenario where the worst things occur, massive nuclear war,

758
00:45:45,120 --> 00:45:48,959
Speaker 3: unstoppable plagues, disasters from space, the collapse of the nation.

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00:45:49,600 --> 00:45:52,040
Speaker 3: And then she also says some of these might be

760
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Speaker 3: used in the interim. Again, this is a realm of

761
00:45:54,360 --> 00:45:59,960
Speaker 3: speculation for other classified ongoing projects and teases the possibility

762
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Speaker 3: a secret space program, which really gave me the jimmies.

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Speaker 3: But all right, if we recap the possible implications, Okay,

764
00:46:08,280 --> 00:46:13,080
Speaker 3: one possibility, something bad is demonstrably on the way and

765
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Speaker 3: the US has known about it for a long time,

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Speaker 3: as you said earlier, Matt decades. A more realistic possibility,

767
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Speaker 3: based on historical precedent, is that something bad is statistically

768
00:46:25,000 --> 00:46:28,800
Speaker 3: always in the cards, and the US, like any other government,

769
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Speaker 3: is preparing for any contingency. It's just the usual. What

770
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Speaker 3: do we call it. We call it continuity of government

771
00:46:35,800 --> 00:46:41,759
Speaker 3: or the technical term would be co op soap. Yeah, continuu,

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00:46:42,040 --> 00:46:43,600
Speaker 3: continuity of operations.

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Speaker 2: That's why the Shyan Mountain complex was built, right, But

774
00:46:46,880 --> 00:46:51,040
Speaker 2: it's also right now why Space Force is occupying Chyan

775
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Speaker 2: Mountain because of course we're not in a readactive hitting

776
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Speaker 2: the fans situation at the moment, although we are, but

777
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Speaker 2: we're not, but we are.

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Speaker 3: It's always you know what it is. Human civilization is

779
00:47:05,239 --> 00:47:09,920
Speaker 3: a place where picture it like a bathroom or water

780
00:47:10,040 --> 00:47:14,239
Speaker 3: closet that's just surrounded by fans. Eventually poop is going

781
00:47:14,320 --> 00:47:15,200
Speaker 3: to hit some of them.

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00:47:15,360 --> 00:47:17,440
Speaker 4: Yeah, right, Not to mention the poop particles that you

783
00:47:17,480 --> 00:47:19,560
Speaker 4: can't see. They get on your toothbrush.

784
00:47:19,800 --> 00:47:21,359
Speaker 3: Oh God, close the lid when.

785
00:47:22,280 --> 00:47:24,600
Speaker 2: Yes, every once in a while somebody opens the door

786
00:47:24,640 --> 00:47:28,160
Speaker 2: and just explosive diarrheas all over that joyces.

787
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Speaker 3: You can't see it.

788
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Speaker 4: Radiohead doesn't mean it's there right there.

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Speaker 3: You get what I'm saying. Yes, yes. Another possibility here

790
00:47:37,400 --> 00:47:41,560
Speaker 3: is that a cabal of powerful private entities have compromised

791
00:47:41,600 --> 00:47:47,000
Speaker 3: the usual mechanisms of governance, shadowy consulting, investing, defense, lobbying

792
00:47:47,040 --> 00:47:53,080
Speaker 3: groups banding together, making their own dark avengers to ensure

793
00:47:53,160 --> 00:47:57,360
Speaker 3: the hell or high water their guys survive whatever might occur.

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Speaker 2: Well, it also reminds me of Ozzy Man, not the

795
00:48:02,040 --> 00:48:04,520
Speaker 2: one from the poem, the one from the comic.

796
00:48:04,320 --> 00:48:07,759
Speaker 3: Book, the one from Watchmen. Yeah, he's bunkered up, you know,

797
00:48:07,840 --> 00:48:08,400
Speaker 3: for reasons.

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00:48:08,600 --> 00:48:10,920
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, but he's also using all those dark funds

799
00:48:11,120 --> 00:48:14,040
Speaker 2: right to create all the new scientific things that he's

800
00:48:14,080 --> 00:48:18,319
Speaker 2: going to use to shock and awe everybody. So there

801
00:48:18,400 --> 00:48:22,560
Speaker 2: is this concept. It makes me imagine some of the

802
00:48:22,560 --> 00:48:26,920
Speaker 2: things that Catherine Fitz imagines, which in the interview she

803
00:48:26,960 --> 00:48:29,399
Speaker 2: talks about all the UAP that we've been seeing are

804
00:48:29,440 --> 00:48:34,200
Speaker 2: actually secret projects being developed in these underground bases, right,

805
00:48:34,320 --> 00:48:34,960
Speaker 2: like all of.

806
00:48:34,880 --> 00:48:37,960
Speaker 3: The particularly undersea basis too.

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00:48:38,040 --> 00:48:40,680
Speaker 2: That that sends to me on the coastline. So like,

808
00:48:40,800 --> 00:48:44,160
Speaker 2: potentially you could have this black budget stuff to the

809
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Speaker 2: tune of trillions of dollars to develop stuff like that

810
00:48:47,360 --> 00:48:49,680
Speaker 2: that absolutely nobody knows about.

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Speaker 3: I mean, adjust the US Oppenheimer kind of projects for

812
00:48:54,239 --> 00:48:57,799
Speaker 3: inflation and you'll get to trillions real quick. Yes, it's

813
00:48:58,120 --> 00:49:03,719
Speaker 3: that level of cooperation between shadowy private cabals combined with secrecy.

814
00:49:03,840 --> 00:49:07,080
Speaker 3: Let's be honest. That's a tall milkshake. But it is

815
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Speaker 3: not impossible. There are historical precedents, and I think the

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Speaker 3: thing that the five of us, Matt Noel Dylon yours

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Speaker 3: truly and hopefully you at home. The thing that the

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Speaker 3: five of us are returning to continually is that there

819
00:49:22,400 --> 00:49:26,760
Speaker 3: was money, and the money went somewhere. That is proven

820
00:49:26,920 --> 00:49:33,160
Speaker 3: the Shenanigans snand so the question is is fits is

821
00:49:33,239 --> 00:49:37,480
Speaker 3: Skidmore or other people in that in their crew. Are

822
00:49:37,480 --> 00:49:41,160
Speaker 3: they correct about where the money is going? Dude?

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Speaker 2: I love the Manhattan Project reference there. Because we're too

824
00:49:45,960 --> 00:49:48,799
Speaker 2: young to remember this. A lot of people listening out

825
00:49:48,800 --> 00:49:52,399
Speaker 2: there don't remember this, but the Manhattan project wasn't known

826
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Speaker 2: until the bomb dropped. Right then it was revealed, Oh hey,

827
00:49:56,080 --> 00:50:00,440
Speaker 2: we had this secret or this huge secret project organizing

828
00:50:00,480 --> 00:50:04,080
Speaker 2: all these people, creating these buildings and facilities, trying to

829
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Speaker 2: create this new technology that we just showed off. But

830
00:50:08,320 --> 00:50:11,240
Speaker 2: you didn't know any of it was happening. And literally

831
00:50:11,320 --> 00:50:14,399
Speaker 2: nobody knew what was happening. And that was the way

832
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Speaker 2: it was supposed to go.

833
00:50:16,719 --> 00:50:20,839
Speaker 3: Right. Again, of some things do have to move in secrecy,

834
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Speaker 3: it's also fair to ask, could you really build something

835
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Speaker 3: a network at this level in secret? Wouldn't locals notice?

836
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Speaker 3: And here, surprisingly Tucker Carlson has something to add. He

837
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Speaker 3: shares his story with Fits in the interview about an

838
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Speaker 3: unnamed friend of his who's a contractor in Washington, DC.

839
00:50:42,040 --> 00:50:47,839
Speaker 3: And apparently this contractor was talking with Tucker Carlson and said, look,

840
00:50:47,920 --> 00:50:51,120
Speaker 3: there's something that looks like a power box or transformer

841
00:50:51,200 --> 00:50:54,799
Speaker 3: box right there in Constitution Avenue. And it's not that

842
00:50:55,200 --> 00:51:00,960
Speaker 3: it's actually a secret entrance aggress, a hidden, hidden passage

843
00:51:01,040 --> 00:51:03,040
Speaker 3: from the White House. And I think that's part of

844
00:51:03,080 --> 00:51:06,400
Speaker 3: why we're paying special attention to Fits as claims and

845
00:51:06,760 --> 00:51:10,799
Speaker 3: as objectively skeptically as possible. We're figuring out where the

846
00:51:10,880 --> 00:51:14,560
Speaker 3: receipts are. There is no solid or publicly acknowledged proof

847
00:51:15,040 --> 00:51:17,840
Speaker 3: of what fits is saying past the fact that the

848
00:51:17,880 --> 00:51:21,520
Speaker 3: cash disappeared. But we do know the modern world is

849
00:51:21,560 --> 00:51:24,600
Speaker 3: full of hidden stuff just below the surface of the

850
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Speaker 3: public consciousness. Guys, this is a deep cut for a

851
00:51:27,840 --> 00:51:31,000
Speaker 3: lot of people. But do you remember years ago when

852
00:51:31,040 --> 00:51:33,640
Speaker 3: we were obsessed with the Long Lines building and we

853
00:51:33,719 --> 00:51:39,040
Speaker 3: trekked across New York City to discover multiple different structures

854
00:51:39,080 --> 00:51:40,200
Speaker 3: with hidden purposes.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we talked. We talked about that pretty extensively. When

856
00:51:46,280 --> 00:51:49,719
Speaker 2: a city wants to hide the infrastructure that makes the

857
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Speaker 2: city work, like what we talked about this the substations

858
00:51:54,480 --> 00:51:56,760
Speaker 2: that might exist, like in the middle of a city block.

859
00:51:57,200 --> 00:51:59,040
Speaker 2: You don't want it to just look like a substation.

860
00:51:59,080 --> 00:52:01,319
Speaker 2: We've all seen those. That will be an eye sord.

861
00:52:01,640 --> 00:52:05,040
Speaker 2: So let's construct a fake building around it and nobody

862
00:52:05,040 --> 00:52:05,840
Speaker 2: will think twice.

863
00:52:06,480 --> 00:52:11,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, secret power plants camouflaged as huge apartments or public

864
00:52:11,200 --> 00:52:14,799
Speaker 3: storage buildings. You know, I can't remember the name of

865
00:52:14,840 --> 00:52:18,520
Speaker 3: a public storage company, but they're everywhere, so that's very reasonable.

866
00:52:18,560 --> 00:52:23,279
Speaker 3: We're hidden entrances to subways and other subterranean structures that

867
00:52:23,360 --> 00:52:27,960
Speaker 3: get disguised as abandoned brownstones that are for some reason

868
00:52:28,120 --> 00:52:32,319
Speaker 3: immaculately maintained. Hent You can find these everywhere in a

869
00:52:32,320 --> 00:52:38,840
Speaker 3: big city. Look for blacked out windows, really anomalous maintenance

870
00:52:39,360 --> 00:52:43,480
Speaker 3: and pro tip doorknobs that don't make sense, doorknobs that

871
00:52:43,480 --> 00:52:46,600
Speaker 3: don't work, lack of doorknobs, a doorknob just in the

872
00:52:47,320 --> 00:52:50,960
Speaker 3: middle of a thing we walked up to those buildings.

873
00:52:52,200 --> 00:52:57,480
Speaker 3: You can also find subway ventilation shafts. Another this is

874
00:52:57,480 --> 00:53:00,759
Speaker 3: not quite a red flag, but another giveaway would be

875
00:53:00,960 --> 00:53:07,520
Speaker 3: inexplicable facades and storefronts in densely populated, wildly expensive neighborhoods

876
00:53:08,400 --> 00:53:12,239
Speaker 3: that have no construction notices on them, nothing but like

877
00:53:12,600 --> 00:53:21,200
Speaker 3: a small no trespassing sign and you can't see inside. Dude.

878
00:53:21,360 --> 00:53:25,880
Speaker 2: I always think about the huge water run off caverns

879
00:53:25,880 --> 00:53:29,160
Speaker 2: and tunnels that large cities have to build just as

880
00:53:29,200 --> 00:53:31,440
Speaker 2: a part of being a city to be able to

881
00:53:31,480 --> 00:53:34,360
Speaker 2: move water when it rains really hard or there's a

882
00:53:34,360 --> 00:53:36,080
Speaker 2: tiny bit of flooding Chessea.

883
00:53:35,760 --> 00:53:40,440
Speaker 4: Brooklyn yesterday, No crazy underwater business like you know, really

884
00:53:40,560 --> 00:53:43,600
Speaker 4: yeah wild. I mean, we just to your point, Matt's

885
00:53:43,640 --> 00:53:46,360
Speaker 4: super important, and when it fails in cities. It failed

886
00:53:46,360 --> 00:53:50,320
Speaker 4: hard and it is gnarly, especially with subway tunnels and those.

887
00:53:50,080 --> 00:53:53,000
Speaker 3: Filling them, and that's when people find out it exists

888
00:53:53,000 --> 00:53:53,680
Speaker 3: in the first place.

889
00:53:53,680 --> 00:53:55,440
Speaker 2: That's right, Well, yeah, but that's it makes me think

890
00:53:55,480 --> 00:53:59,680
Speaker 2: about Las Vegas, and there's a like six hundred miles

891
00:53:59,719 --> 00:54:02,560
Speaker 2: of under Las Vegas and it's all to prevent flooding

892
00:54:02,600 --> 00:54:06,600
Speaker 2: in case one day it rains really hard over Las Vegas.

893
00:54:06,360 --> 00:54:08,200
Speaker 3: And a lot of it is Some people have died

894
00:54:08,320 --> 00:54:10,080
Speaker 3: because they're forced to live down there.

895
00:54:10,239 --> 00:54:12,120
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, people who live down there, So if anything

896
00:54:12,160 --> 00:54:14,439
Speaker 2: bad happens, it's not good. But it's also a really

897
00:54:14,440 --> 00:54:16,879
Speaker 2: great place to take shelter if you're trying to get

898
00:54:16,880 --> 00:54:20,200
Speaker 2: out of the heat. These huge systems and the old

899
00:54:20,360 --> 00:54:23,320
Speaker 2: railway systems that are not used anymore, especially when you

900
00:54:23,360 --> 00:54:26,640
Speaker 2: get out to the mountains in any populated area near

901
00:54:26,680 --> 00:54:29,960
Speaker 2: the mountains, in even any mountain range pick one, and

902
00:54:30,400 --> 00:54:34,080
Speaker 2: there is a bunch of existing underground stuff that is

903
00:54:34,120 --> 00:54:35,120
Speaker 2: no longer used.

904
00:54:35,560 --> 00:54:38,759
Speaker 3: Like the cheese cavern, Well that's being used. And that's

905
00:54:38,800 --> 00:54:40,759
Speaker 3: where we got in trouble with Big Dairy. But yeah,

906
00:54:40,800 --> 00:54:42,799
Speaker 3: I agree with that. Wasn't there a thing?

907
00:54:43,600 --> 00:54:45,239
Speaker 4: And then we talked about a strange news a while

908
00:54:45,239 --> 00:54:48,880
Speaker 4: back about like oreos being hoarded in like an underground

909
00:54:48,920 --> 00:54:52,160
Speaker 4: bunker or something like that by Nabisco a lot.

910
00:54:52,200 --> 00:54:54,719
Speaker 3: I gotta like this up. I wouldn't be surprised, And

911
00:54:54,760 --> 00:54:57,719
Speaker 3: I think it all supports our thesis here because it

912
00:54:57,840 --> 00:55:01,479
Speaker 3: proves that, yes, the Global Orio Vault. Yes, yeah, because

913
00:55:01,520 --> 00:55:04,759
Speaker 3: it proves yes, stuff can be built in secret, it

914
00:55:04,800 --> 00:55:07,279
Speaker 3: can be right under your nose. And the question that

915
00:55:07,360 --> 00:55:09,600
Speaker 3: I would argue becomes a matter of scale, both in

916
00:55:09,640 --> 00:55:12,799
Speaker 3: physical size and in windows of time, by which I

917
00:55:12,880 --> 00:55:17,400
Speaker 3: mean how big can a secret facility be while remaining

918
00:55:17,520 --> 00:55:21,959
Speaker 3: secret throughout its construction and operation? And then secondly, how

919
00:55:22,000 --> 00:55:26,080
Speaker 3: long can it remain secret in general before somebody snitches? Yeah?

920
00:55:26,200 --> 00:55:29,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, And just to clarify, the Global Orio Vault was

921
00:55:29,760 --> 00:55:32,800
Speaker 4: in Svalbard, Norway. Was a sort of a publicity stunt,

922
00:55:32,960 --> 00:55:37,440
Speaker 4: but was inspired by a real important bunker slash vault stunt,

923
00:55:37,480 --> 00:55:41,560
Speaker 4: the Svalbard Global Seed Vault. This is another you know,

924
00:55:42,480 --> 00:55:47,560
Speaker 4: extinction level event, cash of materials hopefully help get things

925
00:55:47,560 --> 00:55:49,720
Speaker 4: back to normal, which would you know, take a long time.

926
00:55:49,960 --> 00:55:52,960
Speaker 3: I'm still so fascinated with Svalbard. I was talking about

927
00:55:53,000 --> 00:55:57,000
Speaker 3: on Daily Zeitgeist and low and behold the travel food

928
00:55:57,080 --> 00:56:01,239
Speaker 3: blogger Mark Weims beat me to bard. Guys, do you

929
00:56:01,280 --> 00:56:02,319
Speaker 3: know Mark Weams is.

930
00:56:02,320 --> 00:56:03,799
Speaker 2: You were going to swaalvard Man.

931
00:56:04,040 --> 00:56:07,400
Speaker 3: I didn't know that always going somewhere, right, I suppose

932
00:56:07,440 --> 00:56:08,000
Speaker 3: so the.

933
00:56:09,000 --> 00:56:11,120
Speaker 2: So I'm trying to make connection here, guys, between that

934
00:56:11,200 --> 00:56:14,520
Speaker 2: conversation we had about big government and then the contractors

935
00:56:14,640 --> 00:56:17,120
Speaker 2: that big government hires that you know, this money ends

936
00:56:17,200 --> 00:56:21,000
Speaker 2: up getting funneled to where the project actually happens. And

937
00:56:21,040 --> 00:56:25,320
Speaker 2: I'm thinking about the cozy relationship that SpaceX has had

938
00:56:25,400 --> 00:56:27,360
Speaker 2: with NASA for a while. It's kind of it's not

939
00:56:27,560 --> 00:56:30,120
Speaker 2: going so great at this moment, but that really cozy

940
00:56:30,160 --> 00:56:33,600
Speaker 2: relationship where basically a private company was going to enable

941
00:56:33,960 --> 00:56:37,839
Speaker 2: a government organization to go back to the moon.

942
00:56:38,120 --> 00:56:38,319
Speaker 3: Right.

943
00:56:38,920 --> 00:56:42,319
Speaker 2: But then you've got an adjacent sister company to SpaceX

944
00:56:42,480 --> 00:56:45,680
Speaker 2: to Tesla called the Boring Company that Elon Musk runs

945
00:56:46,000 --> 00:56:50,799
Speaker 2: that is specifically to bore giant, huge tunnels. And that

946
00:56:50,880 --> 00:56:54,200
Speaker 2: company has its forward facing projects that you can go

947
00:56:54,239 --> 00:56:56,200
Speaker 2: on their website you can look at their projects and

948
00:56:56,239 --> 00:56:59,239
Speaker 2: all the things they're doing. But you've also now got

949
00:56:59,239 --> 00:57:03,640
Speaker 2: a company that has the capability to bore giant underground tunnels.

950
00:57:04,200 --> 00:57:07,640
Speaker 2: That you've already got massive government contracts with, you know,

951
00:57:07,680 --> 00:57:11,880
Speaker 2: at least connected by those threads that could you use

952
00:57:11,960 --> 00:57:14,359
Speaker 2: the boring company to get some of this stuff done

953
00:57:14,560 --> 00:57:17,920
Speaker 2: as an official project, but start it at one of

954
00:57:17,960 --> 00:57:20,240
Speaker 2: these places that is disused.

955
00:57:19,840 --> 00:57:21,920
Speaker 4: Matt, and my being a dingdag is the name the

956
00:57:21,960 --> 00:57:25,960
Speaker 4: boring company referring to their boring activities.

957
00:57:25,520 --> 00:57:27,920
Speaker 2: Or yes, they bore giant holes.

958
00:57:28,280 --> 00:57:30,439
Speaker 4: Okay, but I get that it's a pun. I guess

959
00:57:30,440 --> 00:57:32,400
Speaker 4: I just never really connected those things.

960
00:57:32,640 --> 00:57:33,240
Speaker 3: That's funny.

961
00:57:34,000 --> 00:57:35,720
Speaker 2: I don't know. It just it's weird to me that

962
00:57:35,800 --> 00:57:38,919
Speaker 2: those are the those are the things that the guy

963
00:57:38,960 --> 00:57:42,959
Speaker 2: that made Tesla is running. Feels a little weird.

964
00:57:44,120 --> 00:57:47,920
Speaker 3: You know, Homeboy's got a serious bunker. Must Yeah, And

965
00:57:48,200 --> 00:57:51,280
Speaker 3: this question about how big a thing could be in secret,

966
00:57:51,400 --> 00:57:53,880
Speaker 3: how long it could stay secret, calls the miy it.

967
00:57:53,920 --> 00:57:57,200
Speaker 3: Of course, the infamous story of things like the Greenbrier Bunker.

968
00:57:57,800 --> 00:58:00,560
Speaker 3: From nineteen fifty nine all the way to nineteen ninety

969
00:58:00,560 --> 00:58:04,000
Speaker 3: two out in West Virginia, the Greenbrier Hotel, which is

970
00:58:04,160 --> 00:58:07,600
Speaker 3: a great hotel, was home to a secret government continuity

971
00:58:07,640 --> 00:58:12,640
Speaker 3: program called Project Greek Island, literally a secret bunker for

972
00:58:12,760 --> 00:58:15,640
Speaker 3: the Grand Pooh bahs of big government hidden right under

973
00:58:15,680 --> 00:58:20,520
Speaker 3: the hotel, constructed, maintained entirely in secret for decades. It

974
00:58:20,560 --> 00:58:23,720
Speaker 3: would probably still be operational now if The Washington Post

975
00:58:23,760 --> 00:58:27,840
Speaker 3: hadn't publicly revealed it back in the nineties, as mentioned earlier.

976
00:58:27,840 --> 00:58:30,080
Speaker 3: If you want to learn more about this, check out

977
00:58:30,080 --> 00:58:33,520
Speaker 3: our interview segment with the journalist and author Garrick Graft

978
00:58:33,680 --> 00:58:37,640
Speaker 3: phenomenal dude. He dives deep into this and related subjects

979
00:58:37,640 --> 00:58:40,640
Speaker 3: in his book Raven Rock, The Story of the US

980
00:58:40,760 --> 00:58:43,760
Speaker 3: government secret plan to save itself while the rest of

981
00:58:43,840 --> 00:58:47,640
Speaker 3: us die. It's a good title and it's a harrowing,

982
00:58:47,760 --> 00:58:49,920
Speaker 3: sobering read, so to check it out. It's got a

983
00:58:49,960 --> 00:58:51,160
Speaker 3: ring to it, that's for sure.

984
00:58:51,400 --> 00:58:51,960
Speaker 2: I remember that.

985
00:58:54,080 --> 00:58:58,720
Speaker 3: I mean we also know, I guess, gents, we end

986
00:58:58,760 --> 00:59:01,600
Speaker 3: on this. How can we prove or disprove this?

987
00:59:01,880 --> 00:59:02,080
Speaker 4: You know?

988
00:59:02,160 --> 00:59:05,240
Speaker 3: How can we look at these claims and go through

989
00:59:05,280 --> 00:59:10,000
Speaker 3: Fits and Skidmore's research. We acknowledge there's something screwy going

990
00:59:10,040 --> 00:59:13,760
Speaker 3: on with government spending and accountability. But past that, and

991
00:59:13,840 --> 00:59:17,720
Speaker 3: again credit to Katherine Austin Fits for the transparency, it's

992
00:59:17,720 --> 00:59:21,040
Speaker 3: difficult to find hard proof of the follow up claims

993
00:59:21,200 --> 00:59:24,640
Speaker 3: just because money is missing doesn't mean it automatically went

994
00:59:24,720 --> 00:59:28,560
Speaker 3: to a secret network of oh classify bunkers. We can't

995
00:59:28,560 --> 00:59:31,680
Speaker 3: because we're un invited, right, Yeah, I don't think we're

996
00:59:31,680 --> 00:59:32,160
Speaker 3: going to get it.

997
00:59:33,960 --> 00:59:35,960
Speaker 4: So much of that stuff is so out of our hands, man.

998
00:59:36,240 --> 00:59:37,600
Speaker 4: I mean, I'm sorry. I hate to be such a

999
00:59:37,640 --> 00:59:40,160
Speaker 4: bummer about this, and maybe it's systems taking the obvious,

1000
00:59:40,160 --> 00:59:41,200
Speaker 4: but I just don't.

1001
00:59:41,760 --> 00:59:42,800
Speaker 3: I don't trust that.

1002
00:59:42,640 --> 00:59:46,560
Speaker 4: My tax money is used for anything that benefits me, you.

1003
00:59:46,520 --> 00:59:47,040
Speaker 3: Know, at all.

1004
00:59:47,360 --> 00:59:50,000
Speaker 4: I have no illusions about that, and it pisses me off,

1005
00:59:50,720 --> 00:59:53,920
Speaker 4: and it just it's such a bummer.

1006
00:59:54,320 --> 00:59:56,080
Speaker 2: There's this thing you can find in some of the

1007
00:59:56,120 --> 00:59:59,320
Speaker 2: accounting that Skidmore uncovered, and it goes back to the

1008
00:59:59,400 --> 01:00:02,640
Speaker 2: Iraq War. And we can kind of understand what this

1009
01:00:02,800 --> 01:00:05,280
Speaker 2: means if we think a little bit about it. But

1010
01:00:05,600 --> 01:00:11,960
Speaker 2: there are these entities titled ghost employees, so employees of

1011
01:00:12,480 --> 01:00:15,440
Speaker 2: either a government contractor or the government itself or the

1012
01:00:15,480 --> 01:00:18,640
Speaker 2: Iraqi government that was being formed back in two thousand

1013
01:00:18,680 --> 01:00:20,480
Speaker 2: and four, two thousand and five, all the in that era,

1014
01:00:21,960 --> 01:00:24,919
Speaker 2: ghost employees that were not ever on paper, but they

1015
01:00:25,040 --> 01:00:29,760
Speaker 2: are unofficially employees of one of these entities. Right, one

1016
01:00:29,760 --> 01:00:32,680
Speaker 2: of these groups, one of these organizations, and it does

1017
01:00:32,760 --> 01:00:36,520
Speaker 2: make me wonder how many human beings would have to

1018
01:00:36,800 --> 01:00:41,080
Speaker 2: exist as ghost employees to get projects like this done,

1019
01:00:41,360 --> 01:00:44,760
Speaker 2: or would they be working officially for some other company

1020
01:00:44,840 --> 01:00:47,919
Speaker 2: or group doing something they believe that they're doing when

1021
01:00:47,960 --> 01:00:50,040
Speaker 2: that's actually not what they're doing.

1022
01:00:50,120 --> 01:00:52,640
Speaker 4: We know how easy it is to cover up contractor

1023
01:00:52,760 --> 01:00:56,200
Speaker 4: activities and to you know, have it's like that mafia

1024
01:00:56,240 --> 01:00:58,240
Speaker 4: trick of like having like a big project like the

1025
01:00:58,440 --> 01:01:01,520
Speaker 4: Esplanade and then like you know, fun money through purchases

1026
01:01:01,520 --> 01:01:04,360
Speaker 4: that you never actually made or you know, line items

1027
01:01:04,400 --> 01:01:08,840
Speaker 4: of materials and things like that, no show employees things

1028
01:01:08,880 --> 01:01:11,240
Speaker 4: like that. I mean, I guarantee that the government is

1029
01:01:11,240 --> 01:01:15,480
Speaker 4: employing similar tactics to or not even bothering hiding it

1030
01:01:15,520 --> 01:01:18,440
Speaker 4: because it's just not really something that we even can

1031
01:01:18,480 --> 01:01:19,200
Speaker 4: get to the bottom of.

1032
01:01:19,320 --> 01:01:21,520
Speaker 2: I don't know, and I just I just realistically, how

1033
01:01:21,520 --> 01:01:23,720
Speaker 2: many people would you need to create a single one

1034
01:01:23,760 --> 01:01:24,720
Speaker 2: of these things?

1035
01:01:24,880 --> 01:01:26,000
Speaker 3: A lot it would, I would see.

1036
01:01:26,080 --> 01:01:27,640
Speaker 4: But maybe you know what it makes me think of

1037
01:01:27,880 --> 01:01:30,800
Speaker 4: a good example of this is in the plot line

1038
01:01:30,880 --> 01:01:34,680
Speaker 4: of Better Call Saul, where they're building the meth lab

1039
01:01:34,720 --> 01:01:36,960
Speaker 4: and they hire these German engineers and have to do

1040
01:01:37,000 --> 01:01:39,760
Speaker 4: the whole thing in secret and like time the underground

1041
01:01:39,760 --> 01:01:42,280
Speaker 4: explosions to when there's a train going past and all

1042
01:01:42,280 --> 01:01:44,880
Speaker 4: of this stuff, like so that nobody knows they're doing this,

1043
01:01:44,960 --> 01:01:47,960
Speaker 4: and they're doing it underneath this like you know, industrial laundromat.

1044
01:01:48,720 --> 01:01:49,760
Speaker 3: And it's not that many people.

1045
01:01:49,800 --> 01:01:52,160
Speaker 4: I think it's like maybe twelve people that they have employed.

1046
01:01:52,240 --> 01:01:56,280
Speaker 4: Like there's a demolitions expert, there's the overseeing engineer who

1047
01:01:56,400 --> 01:01:58,880
Speaker 4: designed the project, and is you know, the foreman, and

1048
01:01:58,880 --> 01:02:01,040
Speaker 4: then there's maybe five or six other dudes, each with

1049
01:02:01,080 --> 01:02:01,960
Speaker 4: their own specialty.

1050
01:02:02,360 --> 01:02:04,560
Speaker 2: Oh and okay.

1051
01:02:04,320 --> 01:02:06,000
Speaker 4: So I just think it could be a similar setup,

1052
01:02:06,280 --> 01:02:08,040
Speaker 4: you know, to keep things tight.

1053
01:02:08,600 --> 01:02:12,240
Speaker 2: That's making me think about the unexplained booms. We've got

1054
01:02:12,240 --> 01:02:15,200
Speaker 2: a couple official explanations for things like the hum that

1055
01:02:15,280 --> 01:02:19,680
Speaker 2: we've talked about before, but if you imagine the sounds

1056
01:02:19,680 --> 01:02:23,040
Speaker 2: that might occur if there's a huge drill underground right

1057
01:02:23,160 --> 01:02:26,120
Speaker 2: going through stone or something like not that far away

1058
01:02:26,280 --> 01:02:29,760
Speaker 2: or even pretty dang far away, and then explosions happening,

1059
01:02:29,800 --> 01:02:34,080
Speaker 2: you can imagine some of those things as being theoretical

1060
01:02:34,120 --> 01:02:36,800
Speaker 2: explanations for construction deeper reverberate.

1061
01:02:37,080 --> 01:02:41,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, one hundred percent, man, I think yes, yeah,

1062
01:02:41,240 --> 01:02:45,040
Speaker 3: I agreed with you, guys. And one thing to prove

1063
01:02:45,120 --> 01:02:49,600
Speaker 3: or disprove these claims from Fit Skidmore at all, Ideally

1064
01:02:49,640 --> 01:02:52,440
Speaker 3: we need to see something similar to the Washington Post

1065
01:02:52,640 --> 01:02:57,160
Speaker 3: investigation in Greenbrier, by which we mean documentation, physical photos

1066
01:02:57,240 --> 01:03:01,000
Speaker 3: of a site or preferably multiple sites, and in this case,

1067
01:03:01,040 --> 01:03:05,480
Speaker 3: clear evidence of an alleged transit network. Secondly, the more boring,

1068
01:03:05,560 --> 01:03:11,800
Speaker 3: yet counterintuitively way more important stuff financial documentation clearly tracing

1069
01:03:11,840 --> 01:03:16,320
Speaker 3: the passage of dollars from public offers to shadowy hidden projects.

1070
01:03:16,560 --> 01:03:19,880
Speaker 3: A clear chain of lineage of command from one government

1071
01:03:19,960 --> 01:03:24,760
Speaker 3: institution to another, along with the front companies, contractors, investors.

1072
01:03:25,080 --> 01:03:27,480
Speaker 3: This is dreaming big as well. While we're making a

1073
01:03:27,520 --> 01:03:31,120
Speaker 3: wish list, how about a manifest Epstein style of who's

1074
01:03:31,160 --> 01:03:33,920
Speaker 3: in who's out of the bunkers when the big day comes.

1075
01:03:33,920 --> 01:03:36,520
Speaker 3: For now, one thing is for sure, it seems Fits

1076
01:03:36,560 --> 01:03:40,400
Speaker 3: and skid Moore or onto something very powerful people don't

1077
01:03:40,440 --> 01:03:42,360
Speaker 3: want you to know. We'd love to hear your thoughts.

1078
01:03:42,360 --> 01:03:44,120
Speaker 3: So you can find us on email, you can give

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Speaker 3: us a call on a telephone, and you can always

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Speaker 3: find us on the line.

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Speaker 4: Correct, you can find it the handle conspiracy stuff re

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Speaker 4: exist on Facebook with our Facebook group Here's where it

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Speaker 4: gets crazy, on xfka, Twitter, and on YouTube where we

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Speaker 4: have video content glore for you to enjoy. On Instagram

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Speaker 4: and TikTok or Conspiracy Stuff Show.

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Speaker 2: We have a phone number. It is one eight three

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Speaker 2: three STDWYTK. When you call in, give yourself a cool

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Speaker 2: nickname and let us know if we can use your

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Speaker 2: name and message on the air. What do you think

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Speaker 2: about all this stuff? Have you ever seen any underground

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Speaker 2: construction near you or do you suspect any? Tell us

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Speaker 2: about it.

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Speaker 3: Give us a call.

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Speaker 2: If you want to send us an email, you could

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Speaker 2: do that too.

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Speaker 3: We are the folks who would love to hear from you.

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Speaker 3: Send us the link, send us the pictures, take us

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Speaker 3: to the edge of the rabbit hole. Will do the rest.

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Speaker 3: Be well aware, yet unafraid. Sometimes the void writes back

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Speaker 3: in particular, would love to hear about your dream bunker situation.

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Speaker 3: And if you are comfortable, friends and neighbors, Oh, fellow

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Speaker 3: conspiracy realists, send us some pictures of your little hideaway

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Speaker 3: in your neck in the global woods. Conspiracy at iHeartRadio

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Speaker 2: Stuff they don't want you to know is a production

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