WEBVTT - Bengals Booth Podcast: Survivor

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<v Speaker 1>Hi, gain everybody. I'm Dan Horde and thanks for downloading

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<v Speaker 1>The Bengals Booth Podcast. The I'm a Survivor I'm Not

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<v Speaker 1>Gonna give Up addition, as the Bengals look to get

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<v Speaker 1>back on the winning track as they host the Las

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<v Speaker 1>Vegas Raiders at pay Corp Stadium. Coming up, I'll talk

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<v Speaker 1>to ESPN's dan Orlowski about the current state of the

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<v Speaker 1>team and something unusual coming in a bottom month, A

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<v Speaker 1>Simpson's themed telecast of the Bengals Cowboys game on Monday

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<v Speaker 1>Night Football. My one on one player interview is with

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<v Speaker 1>special teams Ace Tyson Anderson, and in our nother faux segment,

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<v Speaker 1>we get an in depth look at the Raiders from

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<v Speaker 1>obeying signs. I went on a run the other day

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<v Speaker 1>and approached a sign that said the sidewalk was closed ahead. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>I really wanted to keep going in that direction, and

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<v Speaker 1>I could see past the point where construction workers were

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<v Speaker 1>digging up the sidewalk. So I walked down a massive hill,

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<v Speaker 1>went past the construction, walked back up the gigantic hill,

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<v Speaker 1>and figured everything would be okay. I was sadly mistaken.

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<v Speaker 1>In order to keep going, I had to scale one

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<v Speaker 1>fence and twist my body through the opening in another.

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<v Speaker 1>Neither maneuver was safe. In fact, both were stupid. Moral

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<v Speaker 1>of the story, the signs are there for a reason.

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<v Speaker 1>Pay attention, moron. Now let's get to my first guest.

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<v Speaker 1>ESPN's Dan Orlovsky is good natured about the most embarrassing

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<v Speaker 1>moment of his twelve year NFL career, when he lost

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<v Speaker 1>track of the back of the end zone and ran

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<v Speaker 1>out of bounds for a safety. His Twitter profile includes

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<v Speaker 1>the phrase that end zones should be eleven yards. Fast

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<v Speaker 1>forward sixteen years, and Dan has become one of ESPN's

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<v Speaker 1>top analysts. He joined me this week to discuss the

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<v Speaker 1>Bengals and an interesting project that he'll be involved in

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<v Speaker 1>next month. In the Dancing Homer episode of The Simpsons,

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<v Speaker 1>there's a sportscaster named Dan Horde, a buddy of mine,

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<v Speaker 1>wrote the episode, and that's cool. But ESPN's Dan Orlovsky

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<v Speaker 1>is going to be involved in something even cooler, the

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<v Speaker 1>first ever Simpson's theme telecast of an NFL game coming

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<v Speaker 1>up in December, when the Bengals take on the Cowboys.

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<v Speaker 1>Dan tell us what you know at this point about

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<v Speaker 1>this alternative Simpson telecast of an NFL game.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I don't know if what I know is as

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<v Speaker 2>cool as that story that you just shared. It's you know.

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<v Speaker 2>When they came to me, so I called actually the

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<v Speaker 2>ESPN Plus game of last year when they did the

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<v Speaker 2>Toy Story version of this, and I remember my wife

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<v Speaker 2>calling me, going, like all our kids want to do

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<v Speaker 2>is watch the Toy Story version and not your game.

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<v Speaker 2>And so I've seen some clips of that and obviously

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<v Speaker 2>it was a massive success. And so when they came

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<v Speaker 2>to me, I don't know, about a month or two

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<v Speaker 2>ago and asked if I had interest in doing the

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<v Speaker 2>Simpsons version. My immediate reaction was like, of course, I

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<v Speaker 2>was a nineties kid, you know, so the Simpsons, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>at least in my mind, were the most popular thing

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<v Speaker 2>in the world outside of like Sports Center in the nineties,

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<v Speaker 2>So growing up in many ways on the Simpsons, it was,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, an easy guest for me. And so we've

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<v Speaker 2>actually had a meeting recently about kind of what it is.

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<v Speaker 2>What I know is we're a little bit in the

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<v Speaker 2>Simpsons world, Mina and I, and we're kind of taking

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<v Speaker 2>vintage point of this game happening in that world, and

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<v Speaker 2>there'll be interaction with the Simpsons characters, and it'll be

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<v Speaker 2>a pretty pretty cool experience to not only be a

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<v Speaker 2>part of, but to just kind of a watch. If

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<v Speaker 2>you have any any background with the Simpsons.

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<v Speaker 1>It's about the longest running show in TV history. Are

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<v Speaker 1>your wife and kids Simpsons fans?

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<v Speaker 2>Again, my wife's nineties kids, so for sure, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>and I have my kids are Simpsons fans. I have

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<v Speaker 2>one son who is a Simpson fanatic, so we have

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<v Speaker 2>triplet so we have four kids. We have triplet sons,

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<v Speaker 2>and my one son is who's a Simpson fanatic. Is

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<v Speaker 2>super artistic, super creative. The way he looks at the world.

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<v Speaker 2>He's constantly drawing anything that has animation to it. My

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<v Speaker 2>son is all about and so when he, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>first saw The Simpsons and that being really animated, and

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<v Speaker 2>there's not a ton that we watch in our house

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<v Speaker 2>that probably is, you know it, Certainly he was gravita

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<v Speaker 2>towards it. And so he is constantly writing into or

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<v Speaker 2>drawing his own animations cartoons, and so he has had

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<v Speaker 2>hours spent drawing the Simpsons characters and probably creating some

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<v Speaker 2>of his own, you know, I guess episodes essentially. So yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>it's it's certainly a Simpsons household in some way. But

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<v Speaker 2>I have a son who's very much so a Simpsons fan.

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<v Speaker 1>The ESPN's Dan Orlovsky is our guest. Your tape breakdowns

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<v Speaker 1>are as good as it gets. And when you focus

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<v Speaker 1>on Joe Burrow at times, I feel like I almost

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<v Speaker 1>hear awe in your voice. Is that accurate? And if so,

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<v Speaker 1>why that's accurate?

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<v Speaker 2>And why is because what Joe's capable of doing on

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<v Speaker 2>a play by player consistent basis not capable of doing

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<v Speaker 2>what he does. I understand how hard it is. And

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<v Speaker 2>so when you watch a person, you know, because I

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<v Speaker 2>have the vantage point of at least I was in

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<v Speaker 2>that same league, you know, So I know how hard

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<v Speaker 2>it is to do some of the things that he

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<v Speaker 2>does all the time, and I marvel at someone with

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<v Speaker 2>their ability to do it all the time. And while

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<v Speaker 2>you know, I know that I was in that league

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<v Speaker 2>for a dozen years, there's times when I watch a

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<v Speaker 2>player like Joan and I'm like, there's no way I

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<v Speaker 2>was in the same league, you know. And so I

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<v Speaker 2>think that when you there isn't awe it's been that way,

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<v Speaker 2>you know. I'll share a little bit of a story.

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<v Speaker 2>When Joe was coming out of school. It was Joe

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<v Speaker 2>Trevor Lawrence kind of in that National title game type

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<v Speaker 2>of thing, and and I was team Trevor Lawrence all

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<v Speaker 2>the way. And I called that game on a Mega

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<v Speaker 2>cast on the sidelines, and I remember walking out of

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<v Speaker 2>that game and being I've only seen one person that

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<v Speaker 2>made me feel that way with his gravity and his

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<v Speaker 2>poll and that was Matthew Stafford. And so I think

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<v Speaker 2>that was the year that Zach Tator was getting hired

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<v Speaker 2>and Brian Callahan, who was the longtime Cincinnati Bengals coordinator

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<v Speaker 2>I just remember was leaving Detroit. He was with me

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<v Speaker 2>in Detroit with Matthew and I just remember reaching out

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<v Speaker 2>to him shortly after that game when they were gonna

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<v Speaker 2>have the number one pick and being like, it's Joe

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<v Speaker 2>Burrow and it's not close, and he was like, what

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<v Speaker 2>do you mean. I'm like, just this, it's Joe. Just

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<v Speaker 2>take Joe at number one and don't hesitate, and you know,

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<v Speaker 2>I remember him kind of throw out the process, being like,

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<v Speaker 2>this guy different. And so I've always had an appreciation

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<v Speaker 2>and affinity for how good of a player Joe was.

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<v Speaker 1>Damn For three straight weeks the Bengals scored thirty three

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<v Speaker 1>or more points, and then over the last three weeks,

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<v Speaker 1>the offensive has only scored two touchdowns in each of

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<v Speaker 1>those games. What would you like to see the Bengals

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<v Speaker 1>do differently on that side of the ball.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I actually like some of the scheme stuff that

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<v Speaker 2>they've really deployed. I would say over the last five

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<v Speaker 2>or six weeks, I think the balance and the complete

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<v Speaker 2>element of their offense has grown a lot, certainly since

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<v Speaker 2>the beginning of the season, and very much sold last year,

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<v Speaker 2>and so I think a lot of the scheme stuff

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<v Speaker 2>that they're doing I enjoy. I like there arepo stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>I like their ability to run the football from undercent

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<v Speaker 2>or maybe create some more big and explosive runs but

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<v Speaker 2>hard to do. I like their play action game, both

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<v Speaker 2>under and from the gun when they like to get

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<v Speaker 2>Joe on the move, and so I think there's a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of stuff in their offense that schematically. I like

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<v Speaker 2>some of the additions this past week. You know, I

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<v Speaker 2>still think that, you know, team not being there took

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<v Speaker 2>an explosive element away from their offense, and so you know,

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<v Speaker 2>Cleveland's defense is probably a better unit than their team

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<v Speaker 2>record indicates, especially when you know they're in games and

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<v Speaker 2>so you know red zone. They obviously have to score

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<v Speaker 2>more touchdowns in the red zone. That's a very blanket statement.

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<v Speaker 2>I think the better they could be on early downs

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<v Speaker 2>down there is going to help them rather than it

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<v Speaker 2>feels like a constant third and goal from the six.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, that's just a really hard thing to consistently accomplish.

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<v Speaker 1>You have been very complimentary toward lou Ana Roumo in

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<v Speaker 1>the past. What do you think are some of the

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<v Speaker 1>biggest issue shoes that he's dealing with on the defensive

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<v Speaker 1>side of the ball.

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<v Speaker 2>Well. Number One, they've big tackled very poorly for the

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<v Speaker 2>majority of this season. They just have not tackled well,

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<v Speaker 2>specifically the secondary. I don't think has you know, as

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<v Speaker 2>an offense, a lot of times defenses or as an

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<v Speaker 2>offense a lot of times schemes or teams have said,

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<v Speaker 2>we want to get the ball to the unblocked defender

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<v Speaker 2>and meaning that's a corner or safety, and you know,

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<v Speaker 2>they they want to get in those one on one situations,

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<v Speaker 2>and I think just as a team, they haven't tackled

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<v Speaker 2>well in those situations. They haven't found that consistent pass

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<v Speaker 2>rush that they've had in the past. Sam and Trey

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<v Speaker 2>while have you know, been tremendous players, it just hasn't

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<v Speaker 2>happened this year. Specifically over the past couple of weeks,

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<v Speaker 2>they just haven't gotten home nearly as much. And so,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, when you're not tackling well and you're not

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<v Speaker 2>winning on early downs and you're not getting to the quarterback,

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<v Speaker 2>it's just really hard for everybody. Attach they've been given

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<v Speaker 2>up big pass plays down the field, and so I

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<v Speaker 2>think that you know, right now, Louis is still searching

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<v Speaker 2>for that thing that go to scheme or tactic or

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<v Speaker 2>person that he's had in the past.

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<v Speaker 1>The Raiders come to town this week with two wins, one

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<v Speaker 1>of them was over the Ravens in Baltimore. What must

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<v Speaker 1>the Bengals do to be successful at home this Sunday?

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<v Speaker 2>Number one? Stop Rock Bowers. Rock Bouwer is good, good

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<v Speaker 2>young tight end, and they are gonna there's moments, well

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<v Speaker 2>they'll try to throw them the ball four or five

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<v Speaker 2>six times in a row. They don't sugarcoat it with

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<v Speaker 2>the Raiders. They're trying to get into football. Two good

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<v Speaker 2>receivers of Jacoby Myers and Tucker So like, you got

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<v Speaker 2>to manage those guys. They're good players, but Brock Bauers

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<v Speaker 2>is the foundational kind of playmaker piece of their offense.

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<v Speaker 2>And then on the opposite side, it's very clear you

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<v Speaker 2>gotta handle Max Crosby. Every single play. Max can literally

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<v Speaker 2>ruin the game. I mean, if anybody in your guys

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<v Speaker 2>division wants to find out how go watch what he

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<v Speaker 2>did against the Ravens this year. He won the football

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<v Speaker 2>game for them. So I think you know, the Raiders

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<v Speaker 2>sneaky have like a solid defense and good defense. This

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<v Speaker 2>isn't going to be an easy task for their offense.

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<v Speaker 2>You gotta on every single play have multiple bodies or

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<v Speaker 2>no one blocking Max Crosby. I don't think you try

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<v Speaker 2>to block him one on one, and moments when you

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<v Speaker 2>don't block him, you're putting him in conflict with like

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<v Speaker 2>an RPO or something like that. Other than that, it's

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<v Speaker 2>four hands and two sets of hands on him every time.

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<v Speaker 1>Dan, We appreciate your time, and let the record show

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<v Speaker 1>that in two thousand and one, I was behind the

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<v Speaker 1>mic when an eighteen year old freshman named Dan Orlovsky

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<v Speaker 1>came into Nippert Stadium and threw for three hundred and

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<v Speaker 1>eighty three yards and three touchdowns against the UC Bearcats.

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<v Speaker 1>So I have seen you perform at the quarterback position.

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<v Speaker 2>That was a freshman. I think we lost. And while

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<v Speaker 2>I may have been played played well, my bet is

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<v Speaker 2>Gino played better.

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<v Speaker 1>Gino GODOOLI was also a freshman and had a great

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<v Speaker 1>The Bearcats won forty five to twenty eight. But you

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<v Speaker 1>played very well. Thank you, Thank you, appreciate time. Keep

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<v Speaker 1>up the great word.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, sir, thank you.

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<v Speaker 1>third in the NFL in net punting average at forty

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<v Speaker 1>four point nine. That would break Kevin Huber's single season

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<v Speaker 1>team record by about two yards. Rico's big leg is

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<v Speaker 1>the biggest reason, but the coverage team, led by Special

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<v Speaker 1>teams Ace Tyson Anderson, is a huge factor as well.

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<v Speaker 1>I caught up with Anderson this week. Tyson, as we

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<v Speaker 1>do this interview, it's basically a year to the day

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<v Speaker 1>since you toy your ACL at San Francisco. I think

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<v Speaker 1>it was a year ago yesterday. I've heard you say

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<v Speaker 1>you are faster now. Is that the case?

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<v Speaker 3>I like to think I'm faster now. For sure. I

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<v Speaker 3>don't know what it is.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know if this is a little rest recovery.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't really know what it is, but I'll for

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<v Speaker 4>sure feel as fast or faster.

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<v Speaker 1>Really know, is there any evidence of that?

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<v Speaker 3>Oh no, I hit twenty two yet, so I can't say.

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<v Speaker 1>That twenty two miles an hours the goal.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that's to go.

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<v Speaker 1>What's the worst part of rehabbing a torn acl uh?

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<v Speaker 4>After you get past I mean, the worst part is,

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<v Speaker 4>honestly just being away from the guys, really your day

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<v Speaker 4>to day routine, coming in here, laughing and joking with

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<v Speaker 4>the guys. But other than that, the pain for the

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<v Speaker 4>first couple of days, it's really those first Once you

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<v Speaker 4>get through those first like two or three nights, it's

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<v Speaker 4>pretty first two nights, pretty tough.

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<v Speaker 3>And then once you get through that, I mean, it's

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<v Speaker 3>kind of just baby steps.

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<v Speaker 4>The hardest part for me really seemed like it was

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<v Speaker 4>figuring out how to walk again. I never thought, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>when you're a kid, you just learn how to walk.

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<v Speaker 4>I guess you don't really think about it. At least

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<v Speaker 4>I don't remember learning how to walk, So being a

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<v Speaker 4>grown man and teaching myself how to walk again, for sure,

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<v Speaker 4>was probably the toughest thing.

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<v Speaker 1>You literally had to learn how to walk again.

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<v Speaker 4>No, see, literally had to learn how to walk again.

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<v Speaker 4>He would have told everything had to make my quad fire.

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<v Speaker 4>It was for sure challenging.

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<v Speaker 1>Did you have anybody who was also going through rehab

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<v Speaker 1>that you did things together with?

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<v Speaker 4>Oh?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, my dj Ivy. Yeah, every day. That's why.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean we Didne got so much closer over the

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<v Speaker 4>last year, and me just giving him advice because he

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<v Speaker 4>was back probably even sooner than me. I was saying,

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<v Speaker 4>I think I got back pretty fairly quickly. And for

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<v Speaker 4>him to bounce back like he did, I mean we

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<v Speaker 4>always just bounce ideas off each other. I told him

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<v Speaker 4>where he would be feeling and pain and how can

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<v Speaker 4>you avoid it? How could he just be better than

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<v Speaker 4>I was?

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<v Speaker 3>And he did that.

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<v Speaker 4>So that was for sure somebody that we bounced a

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<v Speaker 4>lot of ideas with and kind of iron sharp and

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<v Speaker 4>iron we got back.

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<v Speaker 1>Right now that you mentioned it, it seems like you

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<v Speaker 1>two guys are often the last two people to leave

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<v Speaker 1>the stadium at the end of the day. Do you

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<v Speaker 1>guys do physical training and things to maintain your body together? Now?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, for sure, I mean we got I like to

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<v Speaker 4>call it BFR Tuesdays and Fridays, we do just kind

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<v Speaker 4>of keep the strength up, keep the maintenance up, and

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<v Speaker 4>we always hop it in the code to doing extra

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<v Speaker 4>things in the training room just to make sure we

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<v Speaker 4>stand on top of our injury, just so nothing like

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<v Speaker 4>this ever happens again, even though it was a freak

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<v Speaker 4>accident that you really can't only God knows really, but

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<v Speaker 4>just trying to do as much as we can to

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<v Speaker 4>make sure we go through seventeen and twenty weeks, twenty two.

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<v Speaker 1>Weeks visiting the Tyson Anderson. You're playing at a very

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<v Speaker 1>high level right now on Special Teams. You're tied for

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<v Speaker 1>the NFL league lead in solo tackles, You're the leaders

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<v Speaker 1>in overall special teams tackles. Do you look at that

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<v Speaker 1>stat and is it a specific goal of yours to

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<v Speaker 1>lead the league in that category?

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<v Speaker 4>No, Yeah, for sure, I for sure look at it

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<v Speaker 4>all the time. I mean, I just always like to

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<v Speaker 4>see how other Special teams players are doing around the league.

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<v Speaker 4>I get cut up since my iPad all the time.

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<v Speaker 4>The best gunner tackles the most, who got the most

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<v Speaker 4>gunner tackles? The gunner tackles of the week, things like that,

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<v Speaker 4>So that's for sure something I keep track of. Mike Thomas,

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<v Speaker 4>my rookie year, showed me a cool little website that

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<v Speaker 4>I can keep track of it all and always just

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<v Speaker 4>every week, just look at it once a week just

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<v Speaker 4>to see how am my climbing toward the top. Are

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<v Speaker 4>people catching me? Or is the leader is he? Did

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<v Speaker 4>he not have any tackles that week? So I'm always

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<v Speaker 4>look at it for sure once a week.

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<v Speaker 1>Good old uncle Mike, your mentor and your friend. He's

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<v Speaker 1>not playing this year, He's working for the Players Association.

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<v Speaker 1>But what lessons resonated with you? What do you still

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<v Speaker 1>hear in your head when you think of Uncle Mike?

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<v Speaker 3>I for sure remember just him.

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<v Speaker 4>He would always just tell me my rookie year, when

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<v Speaker 4>I was going through everything, I was going through that

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<v Speaker 4>and he was just telling me, in due time, keep

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<v Speaker 4>putting the work in and due time when you get

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<v Speaker 4>your next moment, don't let don't let go. I can

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<v Speaker 4>for sure always hear him saying little things like that in.

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<v Speaker 3>Due time and due time and due time.

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<v Speaker 4>And it took me a year to get to that

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<v Speaker 4>due time, but I got to it and capitalize on it.

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<v Speaker 4>And Sally it was my season was cut short, but

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<v Speaker 4>still in due time. I was telling myself that all

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<v Speaker 4>the time and rehab in due time. As the months

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<v Speaker 4>went on and went on, in due time, you.

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<v Speaker 3>Go be back. You'll be back to yourself in due time.

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<v Speaker 3>So that's for sure something I'm always keep Tyson.

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<v Speaker 1>We've all heard the expression that a punter out kicked

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<v Speaker 1>his coverage. You don't want Ryan Rico to even think

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<v Speaker 1>about that, right, No?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I always tell Ryan Ryan booted as far as

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<v Speaker 4>you can. I promise you, I'm gonna make you right. Bro,

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<v Speaker 4>Just keep booting as far as you can. I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 4>make you right. And I just want him to have

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<v Speaker 4>the utmost confidence in himself. And I got to know

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<v Speaker 4>I have the utmost confident in him, because I mean,

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<v Speaker 4>I've never been around a punter who's like, who's doing

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<v Speaker 4>what he doing and hanging it up to how he

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<v Speaker 4>hanging it up. So it's for sure it taking me

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<v Speaker 4>some adjusting just to know where the ball go be,

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<v Speaker 4>how long the ball really is going to be in

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<v Speaker 4>the air, so I can kind of time up some

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<v Speaker 4>of my some of my stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>I ran into former Bengals punter Kevin Hubert recently, he

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<v Speaker 1>was the punter here for more than a decade. He said,

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<v Speaker 1>that guy's gonna break every record that I ever had.

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<v Speaker 1>Are you just amazed by how far he punchs the ball?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I'm amazed how far he punts it, But I'm

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<v Speaker 4>more amazed how high the ball goes in.

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<v Speaker 3>The air when he punts it.

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<v Speaker 4>Like it's like I can't really see it until we

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<v Speaker 4>get on film the next time, but it's like, the

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<v Speaker 4>ball should not be that high in the air ever,

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<v Speaker 4>and it's like, yeah, it's crazy. It's coming off his

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<v Speaker 4>leg like a rocket really once he gets a real

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<v Speaker 4>good hit on it.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's for sure he received the game ball after

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<v Speaker 1>the winnow of the New York Giants. I'm sure it

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<v Speaker 1>was meaningful for you. But how excited were friends and

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<v Speaker 1>family when they saw the video of Zach Taylor giving

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<v Speaker 1>you that?

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<v Speaker 3>No, yeah, for sure they was.

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<v Speaker 4>They was probably you can say they probably more excited

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<v Speaker 4>than me, really, But it was just a cool experience.

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<v Speaker 4>Just I mean, I've never gotten a game ball besides

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<v Speaker 4>my game boys when I had to depict sixes in

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<v Speaker 4>the in the preseason, but we lost that game, so

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<v Speaker 4>it was no game Boys.

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<v Speaker 3>Giving out that. But it was just a cool experience.

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<v Speaker 4>The coolest part was just, uh my teammate celebrated me

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<v Speaker 4>how they did, just knowing how much work out and

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<v Speaker 4>put in to get to up to that moment, and

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<v Speaker 4>it was just cool kind of to just hear their

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<v Speaker 4>their their jokes and comments in the background.

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<v Speaker 3>For me, it was it was cool.

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<v Speaker 1>There are a lot of players that play special teams

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<v Speaker 1>because they have to. That is their path to making

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<v Speaker 1>a living in the NFL. You seem to genuinely love it,

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<v Speaker 1>Am I right about that?

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<v Speaker 2>No?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, you for sure right.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, at the end of the day, every team,

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<v Speaker 4>I always tell people, every team is everybody got a

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<v Speaker 4>role on the team, and the moment you find your

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<v Speaker 4>role and maximize your role and have fun doing your role,

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<v Speaker 4>that's when teams go great places for real. So when

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<v Speaker 4>I was a freshman at UT I play especial of

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<v Speaker 4>teams and brought brought everything to it and we wanted

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<v Speaker 4>to MAC Championship my freshman year. I mean, more to

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<v Speaker 4>do probably with Logan Woodside and Deontay Johnson and all

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<v Speaker 4>them dudes. But I like to think of my role

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<v Speaker 4>on special teams. I just try to get the crowd

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<v Speaker 4>going anyway that possible, get some momentum, make a momentum

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<v Speaker 4>changing play, or keep momentum on our side and just

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<v Speaker 4>keep the crowd engauge. So I just I just try

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<v Speaker 4>to be electric, honestly every time I hit the field.

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<v Speaker 1>You have nine games left in the regular season, you

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<v Speaker 1>probably need to win seven to make the playoffs. Why

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<v Speaker 1>do you feel that's realistic?

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, just those dudes in the locker room. Really,

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<v Speaker 4>that's the only reason. If those dudes in the locker room,

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<v Speaker 4>the coaches upstairs, the organization. I mean, we've our back

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<v Speaker 4>been against the wall before. I'm not It's not like

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<v Speaker 4>it's not happen before, And every time it's happened, we've

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<v Speaker 4>always just risen up to to those challenges, really, and

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<v Speaker 4>I expect us to kind of do the same. Really,

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<v Speaker 4>And we got everybody in our on our schedule. I mean,

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<v Speaker 4>we can we can contend and be everybody on our schedule,

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<v Speaker 4>but we just got to go on with the right

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<v Speaker 4>mindset and execute at a high level.

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<v Speaker 1>The Raiders are next. They've only won two games, but

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<v Speaker 1>one of those wins was over the Ravens in Baltimore.

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<v Speaker 1>They gave the Chiefs everything they could handle last week.

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<v Speaker 1>What do you think are a couple of keys to

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<v Speaker 1>being successful on Sunday?

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<v Speaker 4>Oh yeah, man, for sure. Can only speak for the

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<v Speaker 4>defense and special teams. Defensively, I mean just stopping and

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<v Speaker 4>run and stopping explosive plays and creating some turnovers. I mean,

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<v Speaker 4>once you win the turnover battle in this league, usually

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<v Speaker 4>you win the game. So I would say just stopping

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<v Speaker 4>and run, stopping explosive plays, and getting off the field

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<v Speaker 4>on third down two and then special teams somebody. We

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<v Speaker 4>got to make a game changing play, whether that's a

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<v Speaker 4>forced fumble, a touchdown like we did against Cleveland. We

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<v Speaker 4>got to bring the juice and bring the energy and

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<v Speaker 4>had this place rocking for when our defense take the

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<v Speaker 4>field or when our offense take the field.

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<v Speaker 1>Final thing for Tyson Anderson, this is something I thought

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<v Speaker 1>to ask you before, but never have. Your first name

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<v Speaker 1>is spelled unusually. It's t y ce N instead of

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<v Speaker 1>t ys n. Is there a story behind the unusual

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<v Speaker 1>spelling of Tyson?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, my mom was telling me back in the day

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<v Speaker 4>there was a model named Tyson that was kind of

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<v Speaker 4>I think his name was kind of spelled like mine.

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<v Speaker 4>If I remember the story correctly, but that's pretty much

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<v Speaker 4>the only thing. But that's crazy because I got another

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<v Speaker 4>cousin whose name is Tyson and he spells his t

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<v Speaker 4>y s o n so.

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<v Speaker 3>It's kind of funny.

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<v Speaker 1>Name for a model. I could see why your mom

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<v Speaker 1>would one of you. Oh my goodness, appreciate your time,

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<v Speaker 1>best of luck this week, No, I appreciate you. One

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<v Speaker 1>of the most famous male models of all time is

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<v Speaker 1>Tyson Beckford, and I'm guessing that's who he means, but

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<v Speaker 1>Beckford spells it t yso n so the spelling part

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<v Speaker 1>of the story remains a mystery. Now time for this

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<v Speaker 1>week's know the faux segment. The Autumn Wind is the

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<v Speaker 1>name of that iconic NFL film's anthem for the Raiders.

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<v Speaker 1>It includes the following lyrics. The Autumn Wind is a

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<v Speaker 1>Raider pillaging just for fun. They'll knock you round and

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<v Speaker 1>upside down and laugh when he's conquered than one. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>the Silver and Black have only conquered in one twice

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<v Speaker 1>in their first eight games this season, and their radio voice,

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<v Speaker 1>Jason Horowitz, joined lapping me this week on the Bengals

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<v Speaker 1>Game Plan show. I want to go back about a

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<v Speaker 1>week or so ago when the Raiders picked up former

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<v Speaker 1>UC Bearcat Desmond Ritter. We wondered if in time for

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<v Speaker 1>this game he might take over and be the starting quarterback.

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<v Speaker 1>But Gardner Minshew played well last week. I assume Gardner

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<v Speaker 1>Minshew's going to be the guy on Sunday. But where

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<v Speaker 1>do things stand at the quarterback position for the Raiders.

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<v Speaker 5>Well, well, a couple of things. Number one, Desmond, they

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<v Speaker 5>had a couple of plays for him. Unfortunately they didn't

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<v Speaker 5>get to run that because they you know, Gardner was

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<v Speaker 5>playing and he was playing well, but they ran in

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<v Speaker 5>Desmond Ridder on what it would have been on a

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<v Speaker 5>second and three, second and four on the plus side

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<v Speaker 5>of the field, and then Raiders had a false start

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<v Speaker 5>and they took Desmond right off the field. So they

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<v Speaker 5>had a plan, you know, four or five days after

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<v Speaker 5>signing him off to Cardinals practice squad to get him in.

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<v Speaker 5>I think if Gardner Minshew continues to turn the ball over,

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<v Speaker 5>we will see Desmond Ridder. You know, even though statistically

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<v Speaker 5>Gardner played one of his better games. He was eighty

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<v Speaker 5>percent last week two hundred yards to touch down one

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<v Speaker 5>hundred and sixteen or so qv rating, the reality is

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<v Speaker 5>he still had a turnover late in the ballgame that

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<v Speaker 5>cost the Raiders a chance to tie the game. And

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<v Speaker 5>he was also you know, leading an offense that was

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<v Speaker 5>first in goal on the Chiefs three after an interception

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<v Speaker 5>and they didn't score a point. So you know, statistically

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<v Speaker 5>there was some good stuff. But also he took five packs.

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<v Speaker 5>He's kind of been gun side. Turnover has been a problem,

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<v Speaker 5>so we may see different rhetor.

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<v Speaker 6>On well, no matter who the quarterback is, they get

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<v Speaker 6>a weapon in Bowers. I mean, this guy is as advertised.

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<v Speaker 6>I remember the Bengals were extremely high on him. I

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<v Speaker 6>think as was every all thirty two teams in the

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<v Speaker 6>National Football League. This guy is legit at Georgia, and

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<v Speaker 6>he certainly is proving himself to be legit in the

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<v Speaker 6>early stages of his rookie career. He's of his rookie season,

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<v Speaker 6>I should say, he's leading the NFL and catches. He's

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<v Speaker 6>number one obviously had catches with tight ends, number one

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<v Speaker 6>in yards at the tight end position, eleventh overall in yards.

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<v Speaker 6>I mean, this guy has been unbelievable. How many different

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<v Speaker 6>places have they lined him up or motioned them to

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<v Speaker 6>And the twelve yard rush that he has was that

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<v Speaker 6>was he in the backfield or did he come from

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<v Speaker 6>a slot wing back position to run it? How'd that unfold?

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah? Yeah, he was a wide receiver jet sweep, and

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<v Speaker 5>so they had it was the Cleveland game. I think

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<v Speaker 5>it was week four when Zamir White was out, and

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<v Speaker 5>at that point Raiders were fifty two yards a game

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<v Speaker 5>on the ground, worse than franchise history. It's for three

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<v Speaker 5>weeks and they literally handed the ball off to everybody

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<v Speaker 5>not named Jason Horwitz and Lincoln Kennedy. So and you know,

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<v Speaker 5>Lincoln said he was suit up and run running fly

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<v Speaker 5>steep himself. So let mean there's an opportunity there. But

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<v Speaker 5>you know, brocket five rushing touchdowns in college. He out

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<v Speaker 5>ran SEC defenders regularly. So he's the guy that can

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<v Speaker 5>line up anywhere. He does line up everywhere. It's not

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<v Speaker 5>very often he's in the backfield. A couple of plays

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<v Speaker 5>they'll they'll line them up, you know, as a fullback

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<v Speaker 5>or kind of an offset in the backfield. But he

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<v Speaker 5>is consistently motioning all over the place and trying to

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<v Speaker 5>get open. You know, there are lulls once in a

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<v Speaker 5>while where we're not able to get him the football

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<v Speaker 5>and I think that's kind of been a little bit

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<v Speaker 5>of a frustration for the coaching staff because you know,

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<v Speaker 5>he'll have i say, three catches in the first two

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<v Speaker 5>drives or four catches in the first quarter, and you

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<v Speaker 5>know they won't throw them the football again to the

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<v Speaker 5>fourth quarter. And so whether it's defense is taking that

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<v Speaker 5>away or you know, inability for garden minsure or whatever

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<v Speaker 5>it might be, that's something they're trying to figure it out.

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<v Speaker 5>So his consistency is there from start to finish in

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<v Speaker 5>the game.

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<v Speaker 6>Question, have you been able to notice or have you

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<v Speaker 6>heard any discussion postgame or whatever that an opponent had

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<v Speaker 6>a spy package or a shadow package and me and

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<v Speaker 6>my shadow wherever Bauers went, a defender, either a linebacker

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<v Speaker 6>or a safety or somebody was sure to follow. I mean,

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<v Speaker 6>did you have you seen any of that?

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<v Speaker 5>Well, there's been a little bit of that because remember,

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<v Speaker 5>you know, the DeVante Adams situation changed everything for the

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<v Speaker 5>Raiders offense. You know, you go into this year and

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<v Speaker 5>obviously the quarterback situation is unsettled, but you go in

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<v Speaker 5>and you still have DeVante Adams, who's a you know,

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<v Speaker 5>Hall of Fame type receiver. Jacobe Myers has been a

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<v Speaker 5>one and he's been very good for the Raiders, and

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<v Speaker 5>then you add rock power, so that so it's been

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<v Speaker 5>it was harder at least going in to make that

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<v Speaker 5>type of arrangement. But then you know DeVante wanted to

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<v Speaker 5>trade and had a hamstring injury and then was gone,

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<v Speaker 5>and Jacoby missed a couple of games with an ankle injury.

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<v Speaker 5>So yes, I would say a couple of time teams

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<v Speaker 5>have said that was hey, guy number one and really

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<v Speaker 5>their only concern. And yet even in those games, guys,

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<v Speaker 5>he still had nine to ten catches. I think he's

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<v Speaker 5>the I want to say he's the first rookie, either

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<v Speaker 5>tight end or player period to have eight or more

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<v Speaker 5>catches in three straight games a rookie. So I mean,

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<v Speaker 5>even within that, they've still been able to force him

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<v Speaker 5>the ball. But some of those catches are coming late

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<v Speaker 5>when they're you know, down fifty to twenty points and

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<v Speaker 5>almost irrelevant at the stat aspect of it.

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<v Speaker 6>Right.

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<v Speaker 1>The voice of the Raiders, Jason Horowitz is our guest.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's talk Max Crosby. Trey Hendrickson leads the Bengals with

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<v Speaker 1>seven sacks. Max is right behind him with six and

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<v Speaker 1>a half. I think Max missed the game this year.

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<v Speaker 1>What kind of a year is Max Crosby having.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, he's I mean he missed the Cleveland game. It

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<v Speaker 5>was the first time he's ever missed the game in

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<v Speaker 5>his entire career. Uh and the Raiders found a way

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<v Speaker 5>to win without him, which was which was pretty impressive

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<v Speaker 5>from a defensive standpoint. You know, he's having a very

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<v Speaker 5>great year. He's having a typical Max Rosby six and

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<v Speaker 5>a half, ten and a half tackles for loss, you know,

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<v Speaker 5>up towards the top of the NFL and all those categories.

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<v Speaker 5>You know, he disrupts a lot of plays. But in

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<v Speaker 5>saying that, you know, there have been a couple of

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<v Speaker 5>hals where teams have been able to control it a

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<v Speaker 5>little bit better than they would have last year. And

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<v Speaker 5>that I think is they're running away from him or

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<v Speaker 5>you know, getting a second or third guy on him.

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<v Speaker 5>You know, nobody has any success when they don't chip

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<v Speaker 5>or try to block him with a tight end, or

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<v Speaker 5>if they run away from him and they just believe

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<v Speaker 5>him alone because they get an extra blocker to they

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<v Speaker 5>never have success. And so it'll be interesting watching him

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<v Speaker 5>against you know, Amarius Mimus. This week, who is such

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<v Speaker 5>a young guy and not as experienced I think a

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<v Speaker 5>lot of rookies that come into the league. But the

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<v Speaker 5>other thing that the Raiders has done a really good

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<v Speaker 5>job of this year is they're lining up Max on

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<v Speaker 5>both sides. You know, my first year two years ago,

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<v Speaker 5>i'd say he was ninety five percent over the right tackle.

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<v Speaker 5>Last year is probably eighty twenty and this year it's

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<v Speaker 5>it's more of a crapshoot about which side he's lining

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<v Speaker 5>up on during the course of the game. So they're

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<v Speaker 5>getting him in spots to make havoc and he's doing

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<v Speaker 5>it as he always does.

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<v Speaker 6>Uh with your with respect to your defensive line, you're

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<v Speaker 6>missing a premier defensive tackle. I mean that that hurts

0:30:11.240 --> 0:30:14.880
<v Speaker 6>you obviously. In the former Bengals, Zach Carter is one

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<v Speaker 6>of the defensive tackles. How much burn is he getting

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<v Speaker 6>into rotation?

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<v Speaker 5>None?

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<v Speaker 6>Really?

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<v Speaker 5>You know when they signed him, yeah, he was inactive

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<v Speaker 5>this past weekend. He was a healthy They added him

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<v Speaker 5>to the active roster yeah, heading into last week and

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<v Speaker 5>then made him an active for the game itself. So

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<v Speaker 5>to this point, he hasn't taken a snap yet for

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<v Speaker 5>the Raiders. I'm not sure what will be the case

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<v Speaker 5>this weekend. My guess is he'll be active, but don't

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<v Speaker 5>know that for sure. You know, the crazy thing is, statistically,

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<v Speaker 5>Raiders defense this year has been a disappointment because you

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<v Speaker 5>go back to the last nine games last year when

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<v Speaker 5>Antonio Appears took over and Raiders had the number one

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<v Speaker 5>scoring defense in the NFL over that time period and

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<v Speaker 5>finished top ten for the year, and it was the

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<v Speaker 5>first time Raiders had finished top half in the NFL

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<v Speaker 5>since the Super Bowl year, which has been twenty years ago.

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<v Speaker 5>So it was that good.

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<v Speaker 1>Last year.

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<v Speaker 5>They added Christian Wilkins and everybody else returns, you assume

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<v Speaker 5>they'd be even better, and unfortunately, there's been so many

0:31:13.280 --> 0:31:16.440
<v Speaker 5>injuries between Marcus EPs going down for the year and

0:31:16.760 --> 0:31:19.800
<v Speaker 5>Malcolm Coots being lost for the year before the season

0:31:19.840 --> 0:31:22.920
<v Speaker 5>even started and Christian Wilkins, so there's been a lot there.

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<v Speaker 5>But I'd say this so the defense, even though the

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<v Speaker 5>points per game is up there, has played so well

0:31:30.480 --> 0:31:34.440
<v Speaker 5>in bad situations to keep this team in games. But

0:31:34.880 --> 0:31:37.280
<v Speaker 5>the offense has given up forty four points off of

0:31:37.320 --> 0:31:39.600
<v Speaker 5>turnovers over the last four weeks, and you just can't

0:31:39.600 --> 0:31:40.160
<v Speaker 5>win that way.

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<v Speaker 1>Jason Horowitz is our guest. We've mentioned Desmond Ritter, we

0:31:44.280 --> 0:31:46.840
<v Speaker 1>mentioned Zach Carter, we have not mentioned the most familiar

0:31:46.880 --> 0:31:50.320
<v Speaker 1>name of all, Marvin Lewis. What is Marvin's role on

0:31:50.400 --> 0:31:51.280
<v Speaker 1>the Raiders' staff.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I mean, Marvin's the associate head coach and was

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<v Speaker 5>brought in by AP. They knew each other at Arizona State,

0:31:58.480 --> 0:32:02.440
<v Speaker 5>among other places, and he brought him in to check

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<v Speaker 5>him to to be the guy to assist uh Antonio

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<v Speaker 5>peers as game day operations and working through being a

0:32:11.040 --> 0:32:13.120
<v Speaker 5>head coach. And you know he's not the only one.

0:32:13.160 --> 0:32:15.960
<v Speaker 5>Tom Coughlin's on staff, and Joe Philbin's been a head

0:32:15.960 --> 0:32:18.160
<v Speaker 5>coach in this league and he's an offensive analyst. So

0:32:18.440 --> 0:32:22.680
<v Speaker 5>there's guys on staff to help Antonio Piers because Antonio

0:32:22.720 --> 0:32:25.640
<v Speaker 5>told us the preseason he doesn't he doesn't want these

0:32:25.640 --> 0:32:29.040
<v Speaker 5>guys telling him what he's doing wrong on Monday after

0:32:29.120 --> 0:32:31.000
<v Speaker 5>the game went by on Sunday, you know, he wants

0:32:31.040 --> 0:32:34.000
<v Speaker 5>Marvin and those guys telling him what he should be

0:32:34.000 --> 0:32:36.760
<v Speaker 5>doing in game if they're noticing things. So so Marvin

0:32:36.800 --> 0:32:38.440
<v Speaker 5>is an ear to bounce off of. Marvin is a

0:32:38.440 --> 0:32:40.720
<v Speaker 5>guy to help him as a head coach and and

0:32:40.720 --> 0:32:42.960
<v Speaker 5>and message with the players, and and and he is

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<v Speaker 5>a big part of that, uh, with with that experience

0:32:45.680 --> 0:32:47.240
<v Speaker 5>that Antonio Piers is trying to get.

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<v Speaker 6>You know, I got confirmation about Crosby by looking at

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<v Speaker 6>the press release. He got twelve pages on the on

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<v Speaker 6>the release from the from the Raiders, twelve pages defensive end.

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<v Speaker 6>And I'm looking at Okay Bowers as well as he

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<v Speaker 6>only got four you know in Bowers's lifetime. Yeah, he's

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<v Speaker 6>and the quarterback Minshew, you know he's got like three

0:33:08.800 --> 0:33:12.720
<v Speaker 6>or four. Crosby twelve pages, and I mean it's it's impressive.

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<v Speaker 6>His his Uh how much.

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<v Speaker 5>Of that do you have memorized? You got most of

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<v Speaker 5>your head? Or is that going to go in one

0:33:19.240 --> 0:33:20.040
<v Speaker 5>ear and out the other.

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<v Speaker 6>It's pretty it's pretty crazy.

0:33:21.800 --> 0:33:23.840
<v Speaker 1>It's eight pages memorized to lap them.

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<v Speaker 6>It's pretty impressive. The one thing that statistically is a

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<v Speaker 6>former offensive lineman that kind of intrigues me. Twenty six

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<v Speaker 6>straight games with a sack, that's that's fourth best in

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<v Speaker 6>the NFL. I mean, they they are consistently production in

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<v Speaker 6>that area, aren't they.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, the team is and and that's why you know,

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<v Speaker 5>with the Max Crosby thinking, and he deserves all the

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<v Speaker 5>accolades he gets, you know, his energy, his production, what

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<v Speaker 5>he does for the other guys on the front step.

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<v Speaker 5>There's no question Max deserves everything that's been given to

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<v Speaker 5>him as a guy who was a fourth round pick

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<v Speaker 5>out of Eastern Michigan and you know, really burst onto

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<v Speaker 5>the scene right right from the get go, and you know,

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<v Speaker 5>off the field stuff that you're living the life of

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<v Speaker 5>her and things that he's so vocal about too. And

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<v Speaker 5>you know now big in the media with his podcast

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<v Speaker 5>and and let's go with Jim Grayham series exam so

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<v Speaker 5>you know, he's big on a lot of different fronts

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<v Speaker 5>and and very vocal about wanting to stay with the Raiders.

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<v Speaker 5>As there's been you know, aspects of of this trade

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<v Speaker 5>talk over the last couple of weeks. But I would

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<v Speaker 5>say this, you know, one of the things that's been impressive.

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<v Speaker 5>And this is just my third year with this organization,

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<v Speaker 5>and the defense two years ago was really bad, guys

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<v Speaker 5>like really bad. Last year, you got some of those

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<v Speaker 5>names that nobody talks about really coming to the forefront

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<v Speaker 5>and playing well. And it's happening again this year. And

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<v Speaker 5>you know, Roberts Fulane is a big part of that.

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<v Speaker 5>The middle linebacker who came over from Pittsburgh who you know,

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<v Speaker 5>it didn't really have a lot of people chasing after

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<v Speaker 5>him when he was a free agent couple of years ago.

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<v Speaker 5>But man, it's he been awesome, uh, for this team

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<v Speaker 5>and along the front seven. You know, Adam Butler's kind

0:34:48.480 --> 0:34:51.719
<v Speaker 5>of been a journeyman Patriots and Dolphins, but he has

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<v Speaker 5>played so well and his energy is beating off of

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<v Speaker 5>Max Crosby, and you know, they're starting to get some

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<v Speaker 5>stuff from Tyree Wilson, the number seven pick last year.

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<v Speaker 5>He u you know, statistically it doesn't jump off of you,

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<v Speaker 5>but there's a lot of plays where he's been really close.

0:35:05.920 --> 0:35:08.560
<v Speaker 5>He sacked Patrick Mahomes last week. He had another play

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<v Speaker 5>where he forced Patrick throw it out of bounds, chasing

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<v Speaker 5>him down. So he started to come along too on

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<v Speaker 5>the opposite side, which is really helping the back end

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<v Speaker 5>because our back end, again, not a lot of names

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<v Speaker 5>back there, right, There's not a got bunch of guys

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<v Speaker 5>on the defensive secondary who people around the NFL know,

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<v Speaker 5>But they played so well and obviously there's credit to

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<v Speaker 5>the front seven.

0:35:27.760 --> 0:35:31.359
<v Speaker 6>For that Splaine. How bad is that knee injury?

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<v Speaker 3>Did?

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<v Speaker 6>He didn't practice today? The two guys that didn't go,

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<v Speaker 6>James didn't go. The center didn't go with an ankle injury,

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<v Speaker 6>and he didn't go with a knee injury.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, you know, it's interesting with Andre James. You know,

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<v Speaker 5>a lot of money went to different centers around the

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<v Speaker 5>NFL in this offseason and Andre James is a free

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<v Speaker 5>agent and they re signed him to a three year,

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<v Speaker 5>I want to say, twenty four million dollar deal, which

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<v Speaker 5>was a lot less than what a lot of guys

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<v Speaker 5>around the league got. Because he has played, he has

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<v Speaker 5>been a bellcoal for this team for the last few years.

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<v Speaker 5>He has struggled this year, and I wonder when they

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<v Speaker 5>drafted Jackson Powers Johnson in the second round out of Oregon,

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<v Speaker 5>who's been our starting guard the last five weeks. I

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<v Speaker 5>wonder how much thought they were having him play center,

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<v Speaker 5>because he was the Roomingtod Trophy last season right as

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<v Speaker 5>a best center in college football. But it was really

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<v Speaker 5>the first time he'd ever played center. And so it's

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<v Speaker 5>interesting that if if in fact Andre James can't go,

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<v Speaker 5>they have someone who has that accolade maybe slide over

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<v Speaker 5>and play center. Roberts Blaine's injury happened towards the end

0:36:30.400 --> 0:36:32.360
<v Speaker 5>and he got rolled up on and you know, was

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<v Speaker 5>helped off the field. He did come back after the

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<v Speaker 5>injury last week, so you know, obviously he was able

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<v Speaker 5>to play beyond that, but he would be a big loss.

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<v Speaker 5>He is with Max Crosby, the epicenter of this defense

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<v Speaker 5>and the guy who is just cleaning up everything and

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<v Speaker 5>he comes on blitz this. He's got four picks since

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<v Speaker 5>the start of last year. He's a tackling machine. I

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<v Speaker 5>think I think he's number six heading into this week

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<v Speaker 5>and tackles in the NFL. So he really has been everywhere.

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<v Speaker 5>So him not being there if he can't play Thunder

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<v Speaker 5>big one right, thanks.

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