Speaker 1: Hi, gain everybody. I'm Dan Horde and thanks for downloading
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Speaker 1: to ESPN's dan Orlowski about the current state of the
Speaker 1: team and something unusual coming in a bottom month, A
Speaker 1: Simpson's themed telecast of the Bengals Cowboys game on Monday
Speaker 1: Night Football. My one on one player interview is with
Speaker 1: special teams Ace Tyson Anderson, and in our nother faux segment,
Speaker 1: we get an in depth look at the Raiders from
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Speaker 1: Pay attention, moron. Now let's get to my first guest.
Speaker 1: ESPN's Dan Orlovsky is good natured about the most embarrassing
Speaker 1: moment of his twelve year NFL career, when he lost
Speaker 1: track of the back of the end zone and ran
Speaker 1: out of bounds for a safety. His Twitter profile includes
Speaker 1: the phrase that end zones should be eleven yards. Fast
Speaker 1: forward sixteen years, and Dan has become one of ESPN's
Speaker 1: top analysts. He joined me this week to discuss the
Speaker 1: Bengals and an interesting project that he'll be involved in
Speaker 1: next month. In the Dancing Homer episode of The Simpsons,
Speaker 1: there's a sportscaster named Dan Horde, a buddy of mine,
Speaker 1: wrote the episode, and that's cool. But ESPN's Dan Orlovsky
Speaker 1: is going to be involved in something even cooler, the
Speaker 1: first ever Simpson's theme telecast of an NFL game coming
Speaker 1: up in December, when the Bengals take on the Cowboys.
Speaker 1: Dan tell us what you know at this point about
Speaker 1: this alternative Simpson telecast of an NFL game.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know if what I know is as
Speaker 2: cool as that story that you just shared. It's you know.
Speaker 2: When they came to me, so I called actually the
Speaker 2: ESPN Plus game of last year when they did the
Speaker 2: Toy Story version of this, and I remember my wife
Speaker 2: calling me, going, like all our kids want to do
Speaker 2: is watch the Toy Story version and not your game.
Speaker 2: And so I've seen some clips of that and obviously
Speaker 2: it was a massive success. And so when they came
Speaker 2: to me, I don't know, about a month or two
Speaker 2: ago and asked if I had interest in doing the
Speaker 2: Simpsons version. My immediate reaction was like, of course, I
Speaker 2: was a nineties kid, you know, so the Simpsons, you know,
Speaker 2: at least in my mind, were the most popular thing
Speaker 2: in the world outside of like Sports Center in the nineties,
Speaker 2: So growing up in many ways on the Simpsons, it was,
Speaker 2: you know, an easy guest for me. And so we've
Speaker 2: actually had a meeting recently about kind of what it is.
Speaker 2: What I know is we're a little bit in the
Speaker 2: Simpsons world, Mina and I, and we're kind of taking
Speaker 2: vintage point of this game happening in that world, and
Speaker 2: there'll be interaction with the Simpsons characters, and it'll be
Speaker 2: a pretty pretty cool experience to not only be a
Speaker 2: part of, but to just kind of a watch. If
Speaker 2: you have any any background with the Simpsons.
Speaker 1: It's about the longest running show in TV history. Are
Speaker 1: your wife and kids Simpsons fans?
Speaker 2: Again, my wife's nineties kids, so for sure, you know,
Speaker 2: and I have my kids are Simpsons fans. I have
Speaker 2: one son who is a Simpson fanatic, so we have
Speaker 2: triplet so we have four kids. We have triplet sons,
Speaker 2: and my one son is who's a Simpson fanatic. Is
Speaker 2: super artistic, super creative. The way he looks at the world.
Speaker 2: He's constantly drawing anything that has animation to it. My
Speaker 2: son is all about and so when he, you know,
Speaker 2: first saw The Simpsons and that being really animated, and
Speaker 2: there's not a ton that we watch in our house
Speaker 2: that probably is, you know it, Certainly he was gravita
Speaker 2: towards it. And so he is constantly writing into or
Speaker 2: drawing his own animations cartoons, and so he has had
Speaker 2: hours spent drawing the Simpsons characters and probably creating some
Speaker 2: of his own, you know, I guess episodes essentially. So yeah,
Speaker 2: it's it's certainly a Simpsons household in some way. But
Speaker 2: I have a son who's very much so a Simpsons fan.
Speaker 1: The ESPN's Dan Orlovsky is our guest. Your tape breakdowns
Speaker 1: are as good as it gets. And when you focus
Speaker 1: on Joe Burrow at times, I feel like I almost
Speaker 1: hear awe in your voice. Is that accurate? And if so,
Speaker 1: why that's accurate?
Speaker 2: And why is because what Joe's capable of doing on
Speaker 2: a play by player consistent basis not capable of doing
Speaker 2: what he does. I understand how hard it is. And
Speaker 2: so when you watch a person, you know, because I
Speaker 2: have the vantage point of at least I was in
Speaker 2: that same league, you know, So I know how hard
Speaker 2: it is to do some of the things that he
Speaker 2: does all the time, and I marvel at someone with
Speaker 2: their ability to do it all the time. And while
Speaker 2: you know, I know that I was in that league
Speaker 2: for a dozen years, there's times when I watch a
Speaker 2: player like Joan and I'm like, there's no way I
Speaker 2: was in the same league, you know. And so I
Speaker 2: think that when you there isn't awe it's been that way,
Speaker 2: you know. I'll share a little bit of a story.
Speaker 2: When Joe was coming out of school. It was Joe
Speaker 2: Trevor Lawrence kind of in that National title game type
Speaker 2: of thing, and and I was team Trevor Lawrence all
Speaker 2: the way. And I called that game on a Mega
Speaker 2: cast on the sidelines, and I remember walking out of
Speaker 2: that game and being I've only seen one person that
Speaker 2: made me feel that way with his gravity and his
Speaker 2: poll and that was Matthew Stafford. And so I think
Speaker 2: that was the year that Zach Tator was getting hired
Speaker 2: and Brian Callahan, who was the longtime Cincinnati Bengals coordinator
Speaker 2: I just remember was leaving Detroit. He was with me
Speaker 2: in Detroit with Matthew and I just remember reaching out
Speaker 2: to him shortly after that game when they were gonna
Speaker 2: have the number one pick and being like, it's Joe
Speaker 2: Burrow and it's not close, and he was like, what
Speaker 2: do you mean. I'm like, just this, it's Joe. Just
Speaker 2: take Joe at number one and don't hesitate, and you know,
Speaker 2: I remember him kind of throw out the process, being like,
Speaker 2: this guy different. And so I've always had an appreciation
Speaker 2: and affinity for how good of a player Joe was.
Speaker 1: Damn For three straight weeks the Bengals scored thirty three
Speaker 1: or more points, and then over the last three weeks,
Speaker 1: the offensive has only scored two touchdowns in each of
Speaker 1: those games. What would you like to see the Bengals
Speaker 1: do differently on that side of the ball.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I actually like some of the scheme stuff that
Speaker 2: they've really deployed. I would say over the last five
Speaker 2: or six weeks, I think the balance and the complete
Speaker 2: element of their offense has grown a lot, certainly since
Speaker 2: the beginning of the season, and very much sold last year,
Speaker 2: and so I think a lot of the scheme stuff
Speaker 2: that they're doing I enjoy. I like there arepo stuff.
Speaker 2: I like their ability to run the football from undercent
Speaker 2: or maybe create some more big and explosive runs but
Speaker 2: hard to do. I like their play action game, both
Speaker 2: under and from the gun when they like to get
Speaker 2: Joe on the move, and so I think there's a
Speaker 2: lot of stuff in their offense that schematically. I like
Speaker 2: some of the additions this past week. You know, I
Speaker 2: still think that, you know, team not being there took
Speaker 2: an explosive element away from their offense, and so you know,
Speaker 2: Cleveland's defense is probably a better unit than their team
Speaker 2: record indicates, especially when you know they're in games and
Speaker 2: so you know red zone. They obviously have to score
Speaker 2: more touchdowns in the red zone. That's a very blanket statement.
Speaker 2: I think the better they could be on early downs
Speaker 2: down there is going to help them rather than it
Speaker 2: feels like a constant third and goal from the six.
Speaker 2: I mean, that's just a really hard thing to consistently accomplish.
Speaker 1: You have been very complimentary toward lou Ana Roumo in
Speaker 1: the past. What do you think are some of the
Speaker 1: biggest issue shoes that he's dealing with on the defensive
Speaker 1: side of the ball.
Speaker 2: Well. Number One, they've big tackled very poorly for the
Speaker 2: majority of this season. They just have not tackled well,
Speaker 2: specifically the secondary. I don't think has you know, as
Speaker 2: an offense, a lot of times defenses or as an
Speaker 2: offense a lot of times schemes or teams have said,
Speaker 2: we want to get the ball to the unblocked defender
Speaker 2: and meaning that's a corner or safety, and you know,
Speaker 2: they they want to get in those one on one situations,
Speaker 2: and I think just as a team, they haven't tackled
Speaker 2: well in those situations. They haven't found that consistent pass
Speaker 2: rush that they've had in the past. Sam and Trey
Speaker 2: while have you know, been tremendous players, it just hasn't
Speaker 2: happened this year. Specifically over the past couple of weeks,
Speaker 2: they just haven't gotten home nearly as much. And so,
Speaker 2: you know, when you're not tackling well and you're not
Speaker 2: winning on early downs and you're not getting to the quarterback,
Speaker 2: it's just really hard for everybody. Attach they've been given
Speaker 2: up big pass plays down the field, and so I
Speaker 2: think that you know, right now, Louis is still searching
Speaker 2: for that thing that go to scheme or tactic or
Speaker 2: person that he's had in the past.
Speaker 1: The Raiders come to town this week with two wins, one
Speaker 1: of them was over the Ravens in Baltimore. What must
Speaker 1: the Bengals do to be successful at home this Sunday?
Speaker 2: Number one? Stop Rock Bowers. Rock Bouwer is good, good
Speaker 2: young tight end, and they are gonna there's moments, well
Speaker 2: they'll try to throw them the ball four or five
Speaker 2: six times in a row. They don't sugarcoat it with
Speaker 2: the Raiders. They're trying to get into football. Two good
Speaker 2: receivers of Jacoby Myers and Tucker So like, you got
Speaker 2: to manage those guys. They're good players, but Brock Bauers
Speaker 2: is the foundational kind of playmaker piece of their offense.
Speaker 2: And then on the opposite side, it's very clear you
Speaker 2: gotta handle Max Crosby. Every single play. Max can literally
Speaker 2: ruin the game. I mean, if anybody in your guys
Speaker 2: division wants to find out how go watch what he
Speaker 2: did against the Ravens this year. He won the football
Speaker 2: game for them. So I think you know, the Raiders
Speaker 2: sneaky have like a solid defense and good defense. This
Speaker 2: isn't going to be an easy task for their offense.
Speaker 2: You gotta on every single play have multiple bodies or
Speaker 2: no one blocking Max Crosby. I don't think you try
Speaker 2: to block him one on one, and moments when you
Speaker 2: don't block him, you're putting him in conflict with like
Speaker 2: an RPO or something like that. Other than that, it's
Speaker 2: four hands and two sets of hands on him every time.
Speaker 1: Dan, We appreciate your time, and let the record show
Speaker 1: that in two thousand and one, I was behind the
Speaker 1: mic when an eighteen year old freshman named Dan Orlovsky
Speaker 1: came into Nippert Stadium and threw for three hundred and
Speaker 1: eighty three yards and three touchdowns against the UC Bearcats.
Speaker 1: So I have seen you perform at the quarterback position.
Speaker 2: That was a freshman. I think we lost. And while
Speaker 2: I may have been played played well, my bet is
Speaker 2: Gino played better.
Speaker 1: Gino GODOOLI was also a freshman and had a great
Speaker 1: The Bearcats won forty five to twenty eight. But you
Speaker 1: played very well. Thank you, Thank you, appreciate time. Keep
Speaker 1: up the great word.
Speaker 2: Yes, sir, thank you.
Speaker 1: By the way, just to be clear that Simpson's themed
Speaker 1: telecast of the Bengals Cowboys game is an alternate broadcast
Speaker 1: you can still watch Joe Buck and Troy Aikman call
Speaker 1: the game or the Manning Cast. The Simpsons version will
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Speaker 1: provider of the Bengals. Rookie punter Ryan Rico is currently
Speaker 1: third in the NFL in net punting average at forty
Speaker 1: four point nine. That would break Kevin Huber's single season
Speaker 1: team record by about two yards. Rico's big leg is
Speaker 1: the biggest reason, but the coverage team, led by Special
Speaker 1: teams Ace Tyson Anderson, is a huge factor as well.
Speaker 1: I caught up with Anderson this week. Tyson, as we
Speaker 1: do this interview, it's basically a year to the day
Speaker 1: since you toy your ACL at San Francisco. I think
Speaker 1: it was a year ago yesterday. I've heard you say
Speaker 1: you are faster now. Is that the case?
Speaker 3: I like to think I'm faster now. For sure. I
Speaker 3: don't know what it is.
Speaker 4: I don't know if this is a little rest recovery.
Speaker 4: I don't really know what it is, but I'll for
Speaker 4: sure feel as fast or faster.
Speaker 1: Really know, is there any evidence of that?
Speaker 3: Oh no, I hit twenty two yet, so I can't say.
Speaker 1: That twenty two miles an hours the goal.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's to go.
Speaker 1: What's the worst part of rehabbing a torn acl uh?
Speaker 4: After you get past I mean, the worst part is,
Speaker 4: honestly just being away from the guys, really your day
Speaker 4: to day routine, coming in here, laughing and joking with
Speaker 4: the guys. But other than that, the pain for the
Speaker 4: first couple of days, it's really those first Once you
Speaker 4: get through those first like two or three nights, it's
Speaker 4: pretty first two nights, pretty tough.
Speaker 3: And then once you get through that, I mean, it's
Speaker 3: kind of just baby steps.
Speaker 4: The hardest part for me really seemed like it was
Speaker 4: figuring out how to walk again. I never thought, you know,
Speaker 4: when you're a kid, you just learn how to walk.
Speaker 4: I guess you don't really think about it. At least
Speaker 4: I don't remember learning how to walk, So being a
Speaker 4: grown man and teaching myself how to walk again, for sure,
Speaker 4: was probably the toughest thing.
Speaker 1: You literally had to learn how to walk again.
Speaker 4: No, see, literally had to learn how to walk again.
Speaker 4: He would have told everything had to make my quad fire.
Speaker 4: It was for sure challenging.
Speaker 1: Did you have anybody who was also going through rehab
Speaker 1: that you did things together with?
Speaker 4: Oh?
Speaker 3: Yeah, my dj Ivy. Yeah, every day. That's why.
Speaker 4: I mean we Didne got so much closer over the
Speaker 4: last year, and me just giving him advice because he
Speaker 4: was back probably even sooner than me. I was saying,
Speaker 4: I think I got back pretty fairly quickly. And for
Speaker 4: him to bounce back like he did, I mean we
Speaker 4: always just bounce ideas off each other. I told him
Speaker 4: where he would be feeling and pain and how can
Speaker 4: you avoid it? How could he just be better than
Speaker 4: I was?
Speaker 3: And he did that.
Speaker 4: So that was for sure somebody that we bounced a
Speaker 4: lot of ideas with and kind of iron sharp and
Speaker 4: iron we got back.
Speaker 1: Right now that you mentioned it, it seems like you
Speaker 1: two guys are often the last two people to leave
Speaker 1: the stadium at the end of the day. Do you
Speaker 1: guys do physical training and things to maintain your body together? Now?
Speaker 4: Yeah, for sure, I mean we got I like to
Speaker 4: call it BFR Tuesdays and Fridays, we do just kind
Speaker 4: of keep the strength up, keep the maintenance up, and
Speaker 4: we always hop it in the code to doing extra
Speaker 4: things in the training room just to make sure we
Speaker 4: stand on top of our injury, just so nothing like
Speaker 4: this ever happens again, even though it was a freak
Speaker 4: accident that you really can't only God knows really, but
Speaker 4: just trying to do as much as we can to
Speaker 4: make sure we go through seventeen and twenty weeks, twenty two.
Speaker 1: Weeks visiting the Tyson Anderson. You're playing at a very
Speaker 1: high level right now on Special Teams. You're tied for
Speaker 1: the NFL league lead in solo tackles, You're the leaders
Speaker 1: in overall special teams tackles. Do you look at that
Speaker 1: stat and is it a specific goal of yours to
Speaker 1: lead the league in that category?
Speaker 4: No, Yeah, for sure, I for sure look at it
Speaker 4: all the time. I mean, I just always like to
Speaker 4: see how other Special teams players are doing around the league.
Speaker 4: I get cut up since my iPad all the time.
Speaker 4: The best gunner tackles the most, who got the most
Speaker 4: gunner tackles? The gunner tackles of the week, things like that,
Speaker 4: So that's for sure something I keep track of. Mike Thomas,
Speaker 4: my rookie year, showed me a cool little website that
Speaker 4: I can keep track of it all and always just
Speaker 4: every week, just look at it once a week just
Speaker 4: to see how am my climbing toward the top. Are
Speaker 4: people catching me? Or is the leader is he? Did
Speaker 4: he not have any tackles that week? So I'm always
Speaker 4: look at it for sure once a week.
Speaker 1: Good old uncle Mike, your mentor and your friend. He's
Speaker 1: not playing this year, He's working for the Players Association.
Speaker 1: But what lessons resonated with you? What do you still
Speaker 1: hear in your head when you think of Uncle Mike?
Speaker 3: I for sure remember just him.
Speaker 4: He would always just tell me my rookie year, when
Speaker 4: I was going through everything, I was going through that
Speaker 4: and he was just telling me, in due time, keep
Speaker 4: putting the work in and due time when you get
Speaker 4: your next moment, don't let don't let go. I can
Speaker 4: for sure always hear him saying little things like that in.
Speaker 3: Due time and due time and due time.
Speaker 4: And it took me a year to get to that
Speaker 4: due time, but I got to it and capitalize on it.
Speaker 4: And Sally it was my season was cut short, but
Speaker 4: still in due time. I was telling myself that all
Speaker 4: the time and rehab in due time. As the months
Speaker 4: went on and went on, in due time, you.
Speaker 3: Go be back. You'll be back to yourself in due time.
Speaker 3: So that's for sure something I'm always keep Tyson.
Speaker 1: We've all heard the expression that a punter out kicked
Speaker 1: his coverage. You don't want Ryan Rico to even think
Speaker 1: about that, right, No?
Speaker 4: Yeah, I always tell Ryan Ryan booted as far as
Speaker 4: you can. I promise you, I'm gonna make you right. Bro,
Speaker 4: Just keep booting as far as you can. I'm gonna
Speaker 4: make you right. And I just want him to have
Speaker 4: the utmost confidence in himself. And I got to know
Speaker 4: I have the utmost confident in him, because I mean,
Speaker 4: I've never been around a punter who's like, who's doing
Speaker 4: what he doing and hanging it up to how he
Speaker 4: hanging it up. So it's for sure it taking me
Speaker 4: some adjusting just to know where the ball go be,
Speaker 4: how long the ball really is going to be in
Speaker 4: the air, so I can kind of time up some
Speaker 4: of my some of my stuff.
Speaker 1: I ran into former Bengals punter Kevin Hubert recently, he
Speaker 1: was the punter here for more than a decade. He said,
Speaker 1: that guy's gonna break every record that I ever had.
Speaker 1: Are you just amazed by how far he punchs the ball?
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm amazed how far he punts it, But I'm
Speaker 4: more amazed how high the ball goes in.
Speaker 3: The air when he punts it.
Speaker 4: Like it's like I can't really see it until we
Speaker 4: get on film the next time, but it's like, the
Speaker 4: ball should not be that high in the air ever,
Speaker 4: and it's like, yeah, it's crazy. It's coming off his
Speaker 4: leg like a rocket really once he gets a real
Speaker 4: good hit on it.
Speaker 1: So it's for sure he received the game ball after
Speaker 1: the winnow of the New York Giants. I'm sure it
Speaker 1: was meaningful for you. But how excited were friends and
Speaker 1: family when they saw the video of Zach Taylor giving
Speaker 1: you that?
Speaker 3: No, yeah, for sure they was.
Speaker 4: They was probably you can say they probably more excited
Speaker 4: than me, really, But it was just a cool experience.
Speaker 4: Just I mean, I've never gotten a game ball besides
Speaker 4: my game boys when I had to depict sixes in
Speaker 4: the in the preseason, but we lost that game, so
Speaker 4: it was no game Boys.
Speaker 3: Giving out that. But it was just a cool experience.
Speaker 4: The coolest part was just, uh my teammate celebrated me
Speaker 4: how they did, just knowing how much work out and
Speaker 4: put in to get to up to that moment, and
Speaker 4: it was just cool kind of to just hear their
Speaker 4: their their jokes and comments in the background.
Speaker 3: For me, it was it was cool.
Speaker 1: There are a lot of players that play special teams
Speaker 1: because they have to. That is their path to making
Speaker 1: a living in the NFL. You seem to genuinely love it,
Speaker 1: Am I right about that?
Speaker 2: No?
Speaker 3: Yeah, you for sure right.
Speaker 4: I mean, at the end of the day, every team,
Speaker 4: I always tell people, every team is everybody got a
Speaker 4: role on the team, and the moment you find your
Speaker 4: role and maximize your role and have fun doing your role,
Speaker 4: that's when teams go great places for real. So when
Speaker 4: I was a freshman at UT I play especial of
Speaker 4: teams and brought brought everything to it and we wanted
Speaker 4: to MAC Championship my freshman year. I mean, more to
Speaker 4: do probably with Logan Woodside and Deontay Johnson and all
Speaker 4: them dudes. But I like to think of my role
Speaker 4: on special teams. I just try to get the crowd
Speaker 4: going anyway that possible, get some momentum, make a momentum
Speaker 4: changing play, or keep momentum on our side and just
Speaker 4: keep the crowd engauge. So I just I just try
Speaker 4: to be electric, honestly every time I hit the field.
Speaker 1: You have nine games left in the regular season, you
Speaker 1: probably need to win seven to make the playoffs. Why
Speaker 1: do you feel that's realistic?
Speaker 4: I mean, just those dudes in the locker room. Really,
Speaker 4: that's the only reason. If those dudes in the locker room,
Speaker 4: the coaches upstairs, the organization. I mean, we've our back
Speaker 4: been against the wall before. I'm not It's not like
Speaker 4: it's not happen before, And every time it's happened, we've
Speaker 4: always just risen up to to those challenges, really, and
Speaker 4: I expect us to kind of do the same. Really,
Speaker 4: And we got everybody in our on our schedule. I mean,
Speaker 4: we can we can contend and be everybody on our schedule,
Speaker 4: but we just got to go on with the right
Speaker 4: mindset and execute at a high level.
Speaker 1: The Raiders are next. They've only won two games, but
Speaker 1: one of those wins was over the Ravens in Baltimore.
Speaker 1: They gave the Chiefs everything they could handle last week.
Speaker 1: What do you think are a couple of keys to
Speaker 1: being successful on Sunday?
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, man, for sure. Can only speak for the
Speaker 4: defense and special teams. Defensively, I mean just stopping and
Speaker 4: run and stopping explosive plays and creating some turnovers. I mean,
Speaker 4: once you win the turnover battle in this league, usually
Speaker 4: you win the game. So I would say just stopping
Speaker 4: and run, stopping explosive plays, and getting off the field
Speaker 4: on third down two and then special teams somebody. We
Speaker 4: got to make a game changing play, whether that's a
Speaker 4: forced fumble, a touchdown like we did against Cleveland. We
Speaker 4: got to bring the juice and bring the energy and
Speaker 4: had this place rocking for when our defense take the
Speaker 4: field or when our offense take the field.
Speaker 1: Final thing for Tyson Anderson, this is something I thought
Speaker 1: to ask you before, but never have. Your first name
Speaker 1: is spelled unusually. It's t y ce N instead of
Speaker 1: t ys n. Is there a story behind the unusual
Speaker 1: spelling of Tyson?
Speaker 4: Yeah, my mom was telling me back in the day
Speaker 4: there was a model named Tyson that was kind of
Speaker 4: I think his name was kind of spelled like mine.
Speaker 4: If I remember the story correctly, but that's pretty much
Speaker 4: the only thing. But that's crazy because I got another
Speaker 4: cousin whose name is Tyson and he spells his t
Speaker 4: y s o n so.
Speaker 3: It's kind of funny.
Speaker 1: Name for a model. I could see why your mom
Speaker 1: would one of you. Oh my goodness, appreciate your time,
Speaker 1: best of luck this week, No, I appreciate you. One
Speaker 1: of the most famous male models of all time is
Speaker 1: Tyson Beckford, and I'm guessing that's who he means, but
Speaker 1: Beckford spells it t yso n so the spelling part
Speaker 1: of the story remains a mystery. Now time for this
Speaker 1: week's know the faux segment. The Autumn Wind is the
Speaker 1: name of that iconic NFL film's anthem for the Raiders.
Speaker 1: It includes the following lyrics. The Autumn Wind is a
Speaker 1: Raider pillaging just for fun. They'll knock you round and
Speaker 1: upside down and laugh when he's conquered than one. Well,
Speaker 1: the Silver and Black have only conquered in one twice
Speaker 1: in their first eight games this season, and their radio voice,
Speaker 1: Jason Horowitz, joined lapping me this week on the Bengals
Speaker 1: Game Plan show. I want to go back about a
Speaker 1: week or so ago when the Raiders picked up former
Speaker 1: UC Bearcat Desmond Ritter. We wondered if in time for
Speaker 1: this game he might take over and be the starting quarterback.
Speaker 1: But Gardner Minshew played well last week. I assume Gardner
Speaker 1: Minshew's going to be the guy on Sunday. But where
Speaker 1: do things stand at the quarterback position for the Raiders.
Speaker 5: Well, well, a couple of things. Number one, Desmond, they
Speaker 5: had a couple of plays for him. Unfortunately they didn't
Speaker 5: get to run that because they you know, Gardner was
Speaker 5: playing and he was playing well, but they ran in
Speaker 5: Desmond Ridder on what it would have been on a
Speaker 5: second and three, second and four on the plus side
Speaker 5: of the field, and then Raiders had a false start
Speaker 5: and they took Desmond right off the field. So they
Speaker 5: had a plan, you know, four or five days after
Speaker 5: signing him off to Cardinals practice squad to get him in.
Speaker 5: I think if Gardner Minshew continues to turn the ball over,
Speaker 5: we will see Desmond Ridder. You know, even though statistically
Speaker 5: Gardner played one of his better games. He was eighty
Speaker 5: percent last week two hundred yards to touch down one
Speaker 5: hundred and sixteen or so qv rating, the reality is
Speaker 5: he still had a turnover late in the ballgame that
Speaker 5: cost the Raiders a chance to tie the game. And
Speaker 5: he was also you know, leading an offense that was
Speaker 5: first in goal on the Chiefs three after an interception
Speaker 5: and they didn't score a point. So you know, statistically
Speaker 5: there was some good stuff. But also he took five packs.
Speaker 5: He's kind of been gun side. Turnover has been a problem,
Speaker 5: so we may see different rhetor.
Speaker 6: On well, no matter who the quarterback is, they get
Speaker 6: a weapon in Bowers. I mean, this guy is as advertised.
Speaker 6: I remember the Bengals were extremely high on him. I
Speaker 6: think as was every all thirty two teams in the
Speaker 6: National Football League. This guy is legit at Georgia, and
Speaker 6: he certainly is proving himself to be legit in the
Speaker 6: early stages of his rookie career. He's of his rookie season,
Speaker 6: I should say, he's leading the NFL and catches. He's
Speaker 6: number one obviously had catches with tight ends, number one
Speaker 6: in yards at the tight end position, eleventh overall in yards.
Speaker 6: I mean, this guy has been unbelievable. How many different
Speaker 6: places have they lined him up or motioned them to
Speaker 6: And the twelve yard rush that he has was that
Speaker 6: was he in the backfield or did he come from
Speaker 6: a slot wing back position to run it? How'd that unfold?
Speaker 5: Yeah? Yeah, he was a wide receiver jet sweep, and
Speaker 5: so they had it was the Cleveland game. I think
Speaker 5: it was week four when Zamir White was out, and
Speaker 5: at that point Raiders were fifty two yards a game
Speaker 5: on the ground, worse than franchise history. It's for three
Speaker 5: weeks and they literally handed the ball off to everybody
Speaker 5: not named Jason Horwitz and Lincoln Kennedy. So and you know,
Speaker 5: Lincoln said he was suit up and run running fly
Speaker 5: steep himself. So let mean there's an opportunity there. But
Speaker 5: you know, brocket five rushing touchdowns in college. He out
Speaker 5: ran SEC defenders regularly. So he's the guy that can
Speaker 5: line up anywhere. He does line up everywhere. It's not
Speaker 5: very often he's in the backfield. A couple of plays
Speaker 5: they'll they'll line them up, you know, as a fullback
Speaker 5: or kind of an offset in the backfield. But he
Speaker 5: is consistently motioning all over the place and trying to
Speaker 5: get open. You know, there are lulls once in a
Speaker 5: while where we're not able to get him the football
Speaker 5: and I think that's kind of been a little bit
Speaker 5: of a frustration for the coaching staff because you know,
Speaker 5: he'll have i say, three catches in the first two
Speaker 5: drives or four catches in the first quarter, and you
Speaker 5: know they won't throw them the football again to the
Speaker 5: fourth quarter. And so whether it's defense is taking that
Speaker 5: away or you know, inability for garden minsure or whatever
Speaker 5: it might be, that's something they're trying to figure it out.
Speaker 5: So his consistency is there from start to finish in
Speaker 5: the game.
Speaker 6: Question, have you been able to notice or have you
Speaker 6: heard any discussion postgame or whatever that an opponent had
Speaker 6: a spy package or a shadow package and me and
Speaker 6: my shadow wherever Bauers went, a defender, either a linebacker
Speaker 6: or a safety or somebody was sure to follow. I mean,
Speaker 6: did you have you seen any of that?
Speaker 5: Well, there's been a little bit of that because remember,
Speaker 5: you know, the DeVante Adams situation changed everything for the
Speaker 5: Raiders offense. You know, you go into this year and
Speaker 5: obviously the quarterback situation is unsettled, but you go in
Speaker 5: and you still have DeVante Adams, who's a you know,
Speaker 5: Hall of Fame type receiver. Jacobe Myers has been a
Speaker 5: one and he's been very good for the Raiders, and
Speaker 5: then you add rock power, so that so it's been
Speaker 5: it was harder at least going in to make that
Speaker 5: type of arrangement. But then you know DeVante wanted to
Speaker 5: trade and had a hamstring injury and then was gone,
Speaker 5: and Jacoby missed a couple of games with an ankle injury.
Speaker 5: So yes, I would say a couple of time teams
Speaker 5: have said that was hey, guy number one and really
Speaker 5: their only concern. And yet even in those games, guys,
Speaker 5: he still had nine to ten catches. I think he's
Speaker 5: the I want to say he's the first rookie, either
Speaker 5: tight end or player period to have eight or more
Speaker 5: catches in three straight games a rookie. So I mean,
Speaker 5: even within that, they've still been able to force him
Speaker 5: the ball. But some of those catches are coming late
Speaker 5: when they're you know, down fifty to twenty points and
Speaker 5: almost irrelevant at the stat aspect of it.
Speaker 6: Right.
Speaker 1: The voice of the Raiders, Jason Horowitz is our guest.
Speaker 1: Let's talk Max Crosby. Trey Hendrickson leads the Bengals with
Speaker 1: seven sacks. Max is right behind him with six and
Speaker 1: a half. I think Max missed the game this year.
Speaker 1: What kind of a year is Max Crosby having.
Speaker 5: Yeah, he's I mean he missed the Cleveland game. It
Speaker 5: was the first time he's ever missed the game in
Speaker 5: his entire career. Uh and the Raiders found a way
Speaker 5: to win without him, which was which was pretty impressive
Speaker 5: from a defensive standpoint. You know, he's having a very
Speaker 5: great year. He's having a typical Max Rosby six and
Speaker 5: a half, ten and a half tackles for loss, you know,
Speaker 5: up towards the top of the NFL and all those categories.
Speaker 5: You know, he disrupts a lot of plays. But in
Speaker 5: saying that, you know, there have been a couple of
Speaker 5: hals where teams have been able to control it a
Speaker 5: little bit better than they would have last year. And
Speaker 5: that I think is they're running away from him or
Speaker 5: you know, getting a second or third guy on him.
Speaker 5: You know, nobody has any success when they don't chip
Speaker 5: or try to block him with a tight end, or
Speaker 5: if they run away from him and they just believe
Speaker 5: him alone because they get an extra blocker to they
Speaker 5: never have success. And so it'll be interesting watching him
Speaker 5: against you know, Amarius Mimus. This week, who is such
Speaker 5: a young guy and not as experienced I think a
Speaker 5: lot of rookies that come into the league. But the
Speaker 5: other thing that the Raiders has done a really good
Speaker 5: job of this year is they're lining up Max on
Speaker 5: both sides. You know, my first year two years ago,
Speaker 5: i'd say he was ninety five percent over the right tackle.
Speaker 5: Last year is probably eighty twenty and this year it's
Speaker 5: it's more of a crapshoot about which side he's lining
Speaker 5: up on during the course of the game. So they're
Speaker 5: getting him in spots to make havoc and he's doing
Speaker 5: it as he always does.
Speaker 6: Uh with your with respect to your defensive line, you're
Speaker 6: missing a premier defensive tackle. I mean that that hurts
Speaker 6: you obviously. In the former Bengals, Zach Carter is one
Speaker 6: of the defensive tackles. How much burn is he getting
Speaker 6: into rotation?
Speaker 5: None?
Speaker 6: Really?
Speaker 5: You know when they signed him, yeah, he was inactive
Speaker 5: this past weekend. He was a healthy They added him
Speaker 5: to the active roster yeah, heading into last week and
Speaker 5: then made him an active for the game itself. So
Speaker 5: to this point, he hasn't taken a snap yet for
Speaker 5: the Raiders. I'm not sure what will be the case
Speaker 5: this weekend. My guess is he'll be active, but don't
Speaker 5: know that for sure. You know, the crazy thing is, statistically,
Speaker 5: Raiders defense this year has been a disappointment because you
Speaker 5: go back to the last nine games last year when
Speaker 5: Antonio Appears took over and Raiders had the number one
Speaker 5: scoring defense in the NFL over that time period and
Speaker 5: finished top ten for the year, and it was the
Speaker 5: first time Raiders had finished top half in the NFL
Speaker 5: since the Super Bowl year, which has been twenty years ago.
Speaker 5: So it was that good.
Speaker 1: Last year.
Speaker 5: They added Christian Wilkins and everybody else returns, you assume
Speaker 5: they'd be even better, and unfortunately, there's been so many
Speaker 5: injuries between Marcus EPs going down for the year and
Speaker 5: Malcolm Coots being lost for the year before the season
Speaker 5: even started and Christian Wilkins, so there's been a lot there.
Speaker 5: But I'd say this so the defense, even though the
Speaker 5: points per game is up there, has played so well
Speaker 5: in bad situations to keep this team in games. But
Speaker 5: the offense has given up forty four points off of
Speaker 5: turnovers over the last four weeks, and you just can't
Speaker 5: win that way.
Speaker 1: Jason Horowitz is our guest. We've mentioned Desmond Ritter, we
Speaker 1: mentioned Zach Carter, we have not mentioned the most familiar
Speaker 1: name of all, Marvin Lewis. What is Marvin's role on
Speaker 1: the Raiders' staff.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, Marvin's the associate head coach and was
Speaker 5: brought in by AP. They knew each other at Arizona State,
Speaker 5: among other places, and he brought him in to check
Speaker 5: him to to be the guy to assist uh Antonio
Speaker 5: peers as game day operations and working through being a
Speaker 5: head coach. And you know he's not the only one.
Speaker 5: Tom Coughlin's on staff, and Joe Philbin's been a head
Speaker 5: coach in this league and he's an offensive analyst. So
Speaker 5: there's guys on staff to help Antonio Piers because Antonio
Speaker 5: told us the preseason he doesn't he doesn't want these
Speaker 5: guys telling him what he's doing wrong on Monday after
Speaker 5: the game went by on Sunday, you know, he wants
Speaker 5: Marvin and those guys telling him what he should be
Speaker 5: doing in game if they're noticing things. So so Marvin
Speaker 5: is an ear to bounce off of. Marvin is a
Speaker 5: guy to help him as a head coach and and
Speaker 5: and message with the players, and and and he is
Speaker 5: a big part of that, uh, with with that experience
Speaker 5: that Antonio Piers is trying to get.
Speaker 6: You know, I got confirmation about Crosby by looking at
Speaker 6: the press release. He got twelve pages on the on
Speaker 6: the release from the from the Raiders, twelve pages defensive end.
Speaker 6: And I'm looking at Okay Bowers as well as he
Speaker 6: only got four you know in Bowers's lifetime. Yeah, he's
Speaker 6: and the quarterback Minshew, you know he's got like three
Speaker 6: or four. Crosby twelve pages, and I mean it's it's impressive.
Speaker 6: His his Uh how much.
Speaker 5: Of that do you have memorized? You got most of
Speaker 5: your head? Or is that going to go in one
Speaker 5: ear and out the other.
Speaker 6: It's pretty it's pretty crazy.
Speaker 1: It's eight pages memorized to lap them.
Speaker 6: It's pretty impressive. The one thing that statistically is a
Speaker 6: former offensive lineman that kind of intrigues me. Twenty six
Speaker 6: straight games with a sack, that's that's fourth best in
Speaker 6: the NFL. I mean, they they are consistently production in
Speaker 6: that area, aren't they.
Speaker 5: Yeah, the team is and and that's why you know,
Speaker 5: with the Max Crosby thinking, and he deserves all the
Speaker 5: accolades he gets, you know, his energy, his production, what
Speaker 5: he does for the other guys on the front step.
Speaker 5: There's no question Max deserves everything that's been given to
Speaker 5: him as a guy who was a fourth round pick
Speaker 5: out of Eastern Michigan and you know, really burst onto
Speaker 5: the scene right right from the get go, and you know,
Speaker 5: off the field stuff that you're living the life of
Speaker 5: her and things that he's so vocal about too. And
Speaker 5: you know now big in the media with his podcast
Speaker 5: and and let's go with Jim Grayham series exam so
Speaker 5: you know, he's big on a lot of different fronts
Speaker 5: and and very vocal about wanting to stay with the Raiders.
Speaker 5: As there's been you know, aspects of of this trade
Speaker 5: talk over the last couple of weeks. But I would
Speaker 5: say this, you know, one of the things that's been impressive.
Speaker 5: And this is just my third year with this organization,
Speaker 5: and the defense two years ago was really bad, guys
Speaker 5: like really bad. Last year, you got some of those
Speaker 5: names that nobody talks about really coming to the forefront
Speaker 5: and playing well. And it's happening again this year. And
Speaker 5: you know, Roberts Fulane is a big part of that.
Speaker 5: The middle linebacker who came over from Pittsburgh who you know,
Speaker 5: it didn't really have a lot of people chasing after
Speaker 5: him when he was a free agent couple of years ago.
Speaker 5: But man, it's he been awesome, uh, for this team
Speaker 5: and along the front seven. You know, Adam Butler's kind
Speaker 5: of been a journeyman Patriots and Dolphins, but he has
Speaker 5: played so well and his energy is beating off of
Speaker 5: Max Crosby, and you know, they're starting to get some
Speaker 5: stuff from Tyree Wilson, the number seven pick last year.
Speaker 5: He u you know, statistically it doesn't jump off of you,
Speaker 5: but there's a lot of plays where he's been really close.
Speaker 5: He sacked Patrick Mahomes last week. He had another play
Speaker 5: where he forced Patrick throw it out of bounds, chasing
Speaker 5: him down. So he started to come along too on
Speaker 5: the opposite side, which is really helping the back end
Speaker 5: because our back end, again, not a lot of names
Speaker 5: back there, right, There's not a got bunch of guys
Speaker 5: on the defensive secondary who people around the NFL know,
Speaker 5: But they played so well and obviously there's credit to
Speaker 5: the front seven.
Speaker 6: For that Splaine. How bad is that knee injury?
Speaker 3: Did?
Speaker 6: He didn't practice today? The two guys that didn't go,
Speaker 6: James didn't go. The center didn't go with an ankle injury,
Speaker 6: and he didn't go with a knee injury.
Speaker 5: Yeah, you know, it's interesting with Andre James. You know,
Speaker 5: a lot of money went to different centers around the
Speaker 5: NFL in this offseason and Andre James is a free
Speaker 5: agent and they re signed him to a three year,
Speaker 5: I want to say, twenty four million dollar deal, which
Speaker 5: was a lot less than what a lot of guys
Speaker 5: around the league got. Because he has played, he has
Speaker 5: been a bellcoal for this team for the last few years.
Speaker 5: He has struggled this year, and I wonder when they
Speaker 5: drafted Jackson Powers Johnson in the second round out of Oregon,
Speaker 5: who's been our starting guard the last five weeks. I
Speaker 5: wonder how much thought they were having him play center,
Speaker 5: because he was the Roomingtod Trophy last season right as
Speaker 5: a best center in college football. But it was really
Speaker 5: the first time he'd ever played center. And so it's
Speaker 5: interesting that if if in fact Andre James can't go,
Speaker 5: they have someone who has that accolade maybe slide over
Speaker 5: and play center. Roberts Blaine's injury happened towards the end
Speaker 5: and he got rolled up on and you know, was
Speaker 5: helped off the field. He did come back after the
Speaker 5: injury last week, so you know, obviously he was able
Speaker 5: to play beyond that, but he would be a big loss.
Speaker 5: He is with Max Crosby, the epicenter of this defense
Speaker 5: and the guy who is just cleaning up everything and
Speaker 5: he comes on blitz this. He's got four picks since
Speaker 5: the start of last year. He's a tackling machine. I
Speaker 5: think I think he's number six heading into this week
Speaker 5: and tackles in the NFL. So he really has been everywhere.
Speaker 5: So him not being there if he can't play Thunder
Speaker 5: big one right, thanks.
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