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Speaker 1: Hi, gain everybody. I'm Dan Horde and thanks for downloading

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Speaker 1: The Bengals Booth Podcast. The I'm a Survivor I'm Not

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Speaker 1: to ESPN's dan Orlowski about the current state of the

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Speaker 1: team and something unusual coming in a bottom month, A

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Speaker 1: Simpson's themed telecast of the Bengals Cowboys game on Monday

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Speaker 1: Night Football. My one on one player interview is with

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Speaker 1: we get an in depth look at the Raiders from

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Speaker 1: Neither maneuver was safe. In fact, both were stupid. Moral

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Speaker 1: Pay attention, moron. Now let's get to my first guest.

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Speaker 1: ESPN's Dan Orlovsky is good natured about the most embarrassing

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Speaker 1: moment of his twelve year NFL career, when he lost

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Speaker 1: track of the back of the end zone and ran

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Speaker 1: out of bounds for a safety. His Twitter profile includes

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Speaker 1: the phrase that end zones should be eleven yards. Fast

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Speaker 1: forward sixteen years, and Dan has become one of ESPN's

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Speaker 1: top analysts. He joined me this week to discuss the

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Speaker 1: Bengals and an interesting project that he'll be involved in

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Speaker 1: next month. In the Dancing Homer episode of The Simpsons,

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Speaker 1: there's a sportscaster named Dan Horde, a buddy of mine,

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Speaker 1: wrote the episode, and that's cool. But ESPN's Dan Orlovsky

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Speaker 1: is going to be involved in something even cooler, the

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Speaker 1: first ever Simpson's theme telecast of an NFL game coming

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Speaker 1: up in December, when the Bengals take on the Cowboys.

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Speaker 1: Dan tell us what you know at this point about

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Speaker 1: this alternative Simpson telecast of an NFL game.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know if what I know is as

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Speaker 2: cool as that story that you just shared. It's you know.

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Speaker 2: When they came to me, so I called actually the

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Speaker 2: ESPN Plus game of last year when they did the

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Speaker 2: Toy Story version of this, and I remember my wife

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Speaker 2: calling me, going, like all our kids want to do

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Speaker 2: is watch the Toy Story version and not your game.

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Speaker 2: And so I've seen some clips of that and obviously

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Speaker 2: Simpsons version. My immediate reaction was like, of course, I

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Speaker 2: was a nineties kid, you know, so the Simpsons, you know,

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Speaker 2: So growing up in many ways on the Simpsons, it was,

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Speaker 2: actually had a meeting recently about kind of what it is.

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Speaker 2: What I know is we're a little bit in the

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Speaker 2: a pretty pretty cool experience to not only be a

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Speaker 1: It's about the longest running show in TV history. Are

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Speaker 1: The ESPN's Dan Orlovsky is our guest. Your tape breakdowns

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Speaker 1: are as good as it gets. And when you focus

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Speaker 1: on Joe Burrow at times, I feel like I almost

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Speaker 2: And why is because what Joe's capable of doing on

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Speaker 2: so when you watch a person, you know, because I

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Speaker 2: When Joe was coming out of school. It was Joe

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Speaker 1: Damn For three straight weeks the Bengals scored thirty three

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Speaker 1: the offensive has only scored two touchdowns in each of

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I actually like some of the scheme stuff that

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Speaker 2: lot of stuff in their offense that schematically. I like

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Speaker 2: still think that, you know, team not being there took

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Speaker 2: Cleveland's defense is probably a better unit than their team

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Speaker 2: more touchdowns in the red zone. That's a very blanket statement.

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Speaker 2: I mean, that's just a really hard thing to consistently accomplish.

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Speaker 1: You have been very complimentary toward lou Ana Roumo in

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Speaker 1: the past. What do you think are some of the

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Speaker 2: Well. Number One, they've big tackled very poorly for the

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Speaker 2: specifically the secondary. I don't think has you know, as

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Speaker 2: and I think just as a team, they haven't tackled

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Speaker 2: well in those situations. They haven't found that consistent pass

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Speaker 2: you know, when you're not tackling well and you're not

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Speaker 2: it's just really hard for everybody. Attach they've been given

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Speaker 2: think that you know, right now, Louis is still searching

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Speaker 1: The Raiders come to town this week with two wins, one

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Speaker 1: of them was over the Ravens in Baltimore. What must

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Speaker 1: the Bengals do to be successful at home this Sunday?

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Speaker 2: Number one? Stop Rock Bowers. Rock Bouwer is good, good

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Speaker 2: young tight end, and they are gonna there's moments, well

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Speaker 2: they'll try to throw them the ball four or five

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Speaker 2: six times in a row. They don't sugarcoat it with

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Speaker 2: the Raiders. They're trying to get into football. Two good

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Speaker 2: is the foundational kind of playmaker piece of their offense.

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Speaker 2: And then on the opposite side, it's very clear you

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Speaker 2: gotta handle Max Crosby. Every single play. Max can literally

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Speaker 2: did against the Ravens this year. He won the football

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Speaker 2: game for them. So I think you know, the Raiders

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Speaker 2: sneaky have like a solid defense and good defense. This

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Speaker 2: isn't going to be an easy task for their offense.

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Speaker 2: You gotta on every single play have multiple bodies or

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Speaker 2: no one blocking Max Crosby. I don't think you try

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Speaker 2: to block him one on one, and moments when you

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Speaker 2: don't block him, you're putting him in conflict with like

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Speaker 2: an RPO or something like that. Other than that, it's

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Speaker 2: four hands and two sets of hands on him every time.

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Speaker 1: Dan, We appreciate your time, and let the record show

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Speaker 1: that in two thousand and one, I was behind the

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Speaker 4: The coolest part was just, uh my teammate celebrated me

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Speaker 1: What do you think are a couple of keys to

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Speaker 1: being successful on Sunday?

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Speaker 4: Oh yeah, man, for sure. Can only speak for the

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Speaker 4: defense and special teams. Defensively, I mean just stopping and

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Speaker 4: run and stopping explosive plays and creating some turnovers. I mean,

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Speaker 4: once you win the turnover battle in this league, usually

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Speaker 4: you win the game. So I would say just stopping

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Speaker 4: and run, stopping explosive plays, and getting off the field

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Speaker 4: on third down two and then special teams somebody. We

444
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Speaker 4: got to make a game changing play, whether that's a

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Speaker 4: forced fumble, a touchdown like we did against Cleveland. We

446
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Speaker 4: got to bring the juice and bring the energy and

447
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Speaker 4: had this place rocking for when our defense take the

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Speaker 4: field or when our offense take the field.

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Speaker 1: Final thing for Tyson Anderson, this is something I thought

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Speaker 1: to ask you before, but never have. Your first name

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Speaker 1: is spelled unusually. It's t y ce N instead of

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Speaker 1: t ys n. Is there a story behind the unusual

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Speaker 1: spelling of Tyson?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, my mom was telling me back in the day

455
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Speaker 4: there was a model named Tyson that was kind of

456
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Speaker 4: I think his name was kind of spelled like mine.

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Speaker 4: If I remember the story correctly, but that's pretty much

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Speaker 4: the only thing. But that's crazy because I got another

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Speaker 4: cousin whose name is Tyson and he spells his t

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Speaker 4: y s o n so.

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Speaker 3: It's kind of funny.

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Speaker 1: Name for a model. I could see why your mom

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Speaker 1: would one of you. Oh my goodness, appreciate your time,

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Speaker 1: best of luck this week, No, I appreciate you. One

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Speaker 1: of the most famous male models of all time is

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Speaker 1: Tyson Beckford, and I'm guessing that's who he means, but

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Speaker 1: Beckford spells it t yso n so the spelling part

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Speaker 1: of the story remains a mystery. Now time for this

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Speaker 1: week's know the faux segment. The Autumn Wind is the

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Speaker 1: name of that iconic NFL film's anthem for the Raiders.

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Speaker 1: It includes the following lyrics. The Autumn Wind is a

472
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Speaker 1: Raider pillaging just for fun. They'll knock you round and

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Speaker 1: upside down and laugh when he's conquered than one. Well,

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Speaker 1: the Silver and Black have only conquered in one twice

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Speaker 1: in their first eight games this season, and their radio voice,

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Speaker 1: Jason Horowitz, joined lapping me this week on the Bengals

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Speaker 1: Game Plan show. I want to go back about a

478
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Speaker 1: week or so ago when the Raiders picked up former

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Speaker 1: UC Bearcat Desmond Ritter. We wondered if in time for

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Speaker 1: this game he might take over and be the starting quarterback.

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Speaker 1: But Gardner Minshew played well last week. I assume Gardner

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Speaker 1: Minshew's going to be the guy on Sunday. But where

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Speaker 1: do things stand at the quarterback position for the Raiders.

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Speaker 5: Well, well, a couple of things. Number one, Desmond, they

485
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Speaker 5: had a couple of plays for him. Unfortunately they didn't

486
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Speaker 5: get to run that because they you know, Gardner was

487
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Speaker 5: playing and he was playing well, but they ran in

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Speaker 5: Desmond Ridder on what it would have been on a

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Speaker 5: second and three, second and four on the plus side

490
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Speaker 5: of the field, and then Raiders had a false start

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Speaker 5: and they took Desmond right off the field. So they

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Speaker 5: had a plan, you know, four or five days after

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Speaker 5: signing him off to Cardinals practice squad to get him in.

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Speaker 5: I think if Gardner Minshew continues to turn the ball over,

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Speaker 5: we will see Desmond Ridder. You know, even though statistically

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Speaker 5: Gardner played one of his better games. He was eighty

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Speaker 5: percent last week two hundred yards to touch down one

498
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Speaker 5: hundred and sixteen or so qv rating, the reality is

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Speaker 5: he still had a turnover late in the ballgame that

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Speaker 5: cost the Raiders a chance to tie the game. And

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Speaker 5: he was also you know, leading an offense that was

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Speaker 5: first in goal on the Chiefs three after an interception

503
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Speaker 5: and they didn't score a point. So you know, statistically

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Speaker 5: there was some good stuff. But also he took five packs.

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Speaker 5: He's kind of been gun side. Turnover has been a problem,

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Speaker 5: so we may see different rhetor.

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Speaker 6: On well, no matter who the quarterback is, they get

508
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Speaker 6: a weapon in Bowers. I mean, this guy is as advertised.

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Speaker 6: I remember the Bengals were extremely high on him. I

510
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Speaker 6: think as was every all thirty two teams in the

511
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Speaker 6: National Football League. This guy is legit at Georgia, and

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Speaker 6: he certainly is proving himself to be legit in the

513
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Speaker 6: early stages of his rookie career. He's of his rookie season,

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Speaker 6: I should say, he's leading the NFL and catches. He's

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Speaker 6: number one obviously had catches with tight ends, number one

516
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Speaker 6: in yards at the tight end position, eleventh overall in yards.

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Speaker 6: I mean, this guy has been unbelievable. How many different

518
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Speaker 6: places have they lined him up or motioned them to

519
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Speaker 6: And the twelve yard rush that he has was that

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Speaker 6: was he in the backfield or did he come from

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Speaker 6: a slot wing back position to run it? How'd that unfold?

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Speaker 5: Yeah? Yeah, he was a wide receiver jet sweep, and

523
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Speaker 5: so they had it was the Cleveland game. I think

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Speaker 5: it was week four when Zamir White was out, and

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Speaker 5: at that point Raiders were fifty two yards a game

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Speaker 5: on the ground, worse than franchise history. It's for three

527
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Speaker 5: weeks and they literally handed the ball off to everybody

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Speaker 5: not named Jason Horwitz and Lincoln Kennedy. So and you know,

529
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Speaker 5: Lincoln said he was suit up and run running fly

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Speaker 5: steep himself. So let mean there's an opportunity there. But

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Speaker 5: you know, brocket five rushing touchdowns in college. He out

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Speaker 5: ran SEC defenders regularly. So he's the guy that can

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Speaker 5: line up anywhere. He does line up everywhere. It's not

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Speaker 5: very often he's in the backfield. A couple of plays

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Speaker 5: they'll they'll line them up, you know, as a fullback

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Speaker 5: or kind of an offset in the backfield. But he

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Speaker 5: is consistently motioning all over the place and trying to

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Speaker 5: get open. You know, there are lulls once in a

539
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Speaker 5: while where we're not able to get him the football

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Speaker 5: and I think that's kind of been a little bit

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Speaker 5: of a frustration for the coaching staff because you know,

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Speaker 5: he'll have i say, three catches in the first two

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Speaker 5: drives or four catches in the first quarter, and you

544
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Speaker 5: know they won't throw them the football again to the

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Speaker 5: fourth quarter. And so whether it's defense is taking that

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Speaker 5: away or you know, inability for garden minsure or whatever

547
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Speaker 5: it might be, that's something they're trying to figure it out.

548
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Speaker 5: So his consistency is there from start to finish in

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Speaker 5: the game.

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Speaker 6: Question, have you been able to notice or have you

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Speaker 6: heard any discussion postgame or whatever that an opponent had

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Speaker 6: a spy package or a shadow package and me and

553
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Speaker 6: my shadow wherever Bauers went, a defender, either a linebacker

554
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Speaker 6: or a safety or somebody was sure to follow. I mean,

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Speaker 6: did you have you seen any of that?

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Speaker 5: Well, there's been a little bit of that because remember,

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Speaker 5: you know, the DeVante Adams situation changed everything for the

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Speaker 5: Raiders offense. You know, you go into this year and

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Speaker 5: obviously the quarterback situation is unsettled, but you go in

560
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Speaker 5: and you still have DeVante Adams, who's a you know,

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Speaker 5: Hall of Fame type receiver. Jacobe Myers has been a

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Speaker 5: one and he's been very good for the Raiders, and

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Speaker 5: then you add rock power, so that so it's been

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Speaker 5: it was harder at least going in to make that

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Speaker 5: type of arrangement. But then you know DeVante wanted to

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Speaker 5: trade and had a hamstring injury and then was gone,

567
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Speaker 5: and Jacoby missed a couple of games with an ankle injury.

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Speaker 5: So yes, I would say a couple of time teams

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Speaker 5: have said that was hey, guy number one and really

570
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Speaker 5: their only concern. And yet even in those games, guys,

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Speaker 5: he still had nine to ten catches. I think he's

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Speaker 5: the I want to say he's the first rookie, either

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Speaker 5: tight end or player period to have eight or more

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Speaker 5: catches in three straight games a rookie. So I mean,

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Speaker 5: even within that, they've still been able to force him

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Speaker 5: the ball. But some of those catches are coming late

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Speaker 5: when they're you know, down fifty to twenty points and

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Speaker 5: almost irrelevant at the stat aspect of it.

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Speaker 6: Right.

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Speaker 1: The voice of the Raiders, Jason Horowitz is our guest.

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Speaker 1: Let's talk Max Crosby. Trey Hendrickson leads the Bengals with

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Speaker 1: seven sacks. Max is right behind him with six and

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Speaker 1: a half. I think Max missed the game this year.

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Speaker 1: What kind of a year is Max Crosby having.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, he's I mean he missed the Cleveland game. It

586
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Speaker 5: was the first time he's ever missed the game in

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Speaker 5: his entire career. Uh and the Raiders found a way

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Speaker 5: to win without him, which was which was pretty impressive

589
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Speaker 5: from a defensive standpoint. You know, he's having a very

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Speaker 5: great year. He's having a typical Max Rosby six and

591
00:29:00,840 --> 00:29:03,040
Speaker 5: a half, ten and a half tackles for loss, you know,

592
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Speaker 5: up towards the top of the NFL and all those categories.

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Speaker 5: You know, he disrupts a lot of plays. But in

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Speaker 5: saying that, you know, there have been a couple of

595
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Speaker 5: hals where teams have been able to control it a

596
00:29:15,560 --> 00:29:17,600
Speaker 5: little bit better than they would have last year. And

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Speaker 5: that I think is they're running away from him or

598
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Speaker 5: you know, getting a second or third guy on him.

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Speaker 5: You know, nobody has any success when they don't chip

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Speaker 5: or try to block him with a tight end, or

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Speaker 5: if they run away from him and they just believe

602
00:29:30,920 --> 00:29:32,880
Speaker 5: him alone because they get an extra blocker to they

603
00:29:32,960 --> 00:29:36,040
Speaker 5: never have success. And so it'll be interesting watching him

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Speaker 5: against you know, Amarius Mimus. This week, who is such

605
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Speaker 5: a young guy and not as experienced I think a

606
00:29:41,960 --> 00:29:43,920
Speaker 5: lot of rookies that come into the league. But the

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00:29:43,960 --> 00:29:45,280
Speaker 5: other thing that the Raiders has done a really good

608
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Speaker 5: job of this year is they're lining up Max on

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Speaker 5: both sides. You know, my first year two years ago,

610
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Speaker 5: i'd say he was ninety five percent over the right tackle.

611
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Speaker 5: Last year is probably eighty twenty and this year it's

612
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Speaker 5: it's more of a crapshoot about which side he's lining

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Speaker 5: up on during the course of the game. So they're

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Speaker 5: getting him in spots to make havoc and he's doing

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Speaker 5: it as he always does.

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Speaker 6: Uh with your with respect to your defensive line, you're

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Speaker 6: missing a premier defensive tackle. I mean that that hurts

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Speaker 6: you obviously. In the former Bengals, Zach Carter is one

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Speaker 6: of the defensive tackles. How much burn is he getting

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Speaker 6: into rotation?

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Speaker 5: None?

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Speaker 6: Really?

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Speaker 5: You know when they signed him, yeah, he was inactive

624
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Speaker 5: this past weekend. He was a healthy They added him

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Speaker 5: to the active roster yeah, heading into last week and

626
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Speaker 5: then made him an active for the game itself. So

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Speaker 5: to this point, he hasn't taken a snap yet for

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Speaker 5: the Raiders. I'm not sure what will be the case

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Speaker 5: this weekend. My guess is he'll be active, but don't

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Speaker 5: know that for sure. You know, the crazy thing is, statistically,

631
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Speaker 5: Raiders defense this year has been a disappointment because you

632
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Speaker 5: go back to the last nine games last year when

633
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Speaker 5: Antonio Appears took over and Raiders had the number one

634
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Speaker 5: scoring defense in the NFL over that time period and

635
00:30:56,440 --> 00:30:58,720
Speaker 5: finished top ten for the year, and it was the

636
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Speaker 5: first time Raiders had finished top half in the NFL

637
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Speaker 5: since the Super Bowl year, which has been twenty years ago.

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Speaker 5: So it was that good.

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Speaker 1: Last year.

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Speaker 5: They added Christian Wilkins and everybody else returns, you assume

641
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Speaker 5: they'd be even better, and unfortunately, there's been so many

642
00:31:13,280 --> 00:31:16,440
Speaker 5: injuries between Marcus EPs going down for the year and

643
00:31:16,760 --> 00:31:19,800
Speaker 5: Malcolm Coots being lost for the year before the season

644
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Speaker 5: even started and Christian Wilkins, so there's been a lot there.

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Speaker 5: But I'd say this so the defense, even though the

646
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Speaker 5: points per game is up there, has played so well

647
00:31:30,480 --> 00:31:34,440
Speaker 5: in bad situations to keep this team in games. But

648
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Speaker 5: the offense has given up forty four points off of

649
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Speaker 5: turnovers over the last four weeks, and you just can't

650
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Speaker 5: win that way.

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Speaker 1: Jason Horowitz is our guest. We've mentioned Desmond Ritter, we

652
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Speaker 1: mentioned Zach Carter, we have not mentioned the most familiar

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Speaker 1: name of all, Marvin Lewis. What is Marvin's role on

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Speaker 1: the Raiders' staff.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, Marvin's the associate head coach and was

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Speaker 5: brought in by AP. They knew each other at Arizona State,

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Speaker 5: among other places, and he brought him in to check

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Speaker 5: him to to be the guy to assist uh Antonio

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Speaker 5: peers as game day operations and working through being a

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Speaker 5: head coach. And you know he's not the only one.

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Speaker 5: Tom Coughlin's on staff, and Joe Philbin's been a head

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Speaker 5: coach in this league and he's an offensive analyst. So

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Speaker 5: there's guys on staff to help Antonio Piers because Antonio

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Speaker 5: told us the preseason he doesn't he doesn't want these

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Speaker 5: guys telling him what he's doing wrong on Monday after

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Speaker 5: the game went by on Sunday, you know, he wants

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Speaker 5: Marvin and those guys telling him what he should be

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Speaker 5: doing in game if they're noticing things. So so Marvin

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Speaker 5: is an ear to bounce off of. Marvin is a

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Speaker 5: guy to help him as a head coach and and

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Speaker 5: and message with the players, and and and he is

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Speaker 5: a big part of that, uh, with with that experience

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Speaker 5: that Antonio Piers is trying to get.

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Speaker 6: You know, I got confirmation about Crosby by looking at

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Speaker 6: the press release. He got twelve pages on the on

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Speaker 6: the release from the from the Raiders, twelve pages defensive end.

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Speaker 6: And I'm looking at Okay Bowers as well as he

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Speaker 6: only got four you know in Bowers's lifetime. Yeah, he's

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Speaker 6: and the quarterback Minshew, you know he's got like three

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Speaker 6: or four. Crosby twelve pages, and I mean it's it's impressive.

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Speaker 6: His his Uh how much.

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Speaker 5: Of that do you have memorized? You got most of

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Speaker 5: your head? Or is that going to go in one

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Speaker 5: ear and out the other.

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Speaker 6: It's pretty it's pretty crazy.

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Speaker 1: It's eight pages memorized to lap them.

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Speaker 6: It's pretty impressive. The one thing that statistically is a

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Speaker 6: former offensive lineman that kind of intrigues me. Twenty six

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Speaker 6: straight games with a sack, that's that's fourth best in

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Speaker 6: the NFL. I mean, they they are consistently production in

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Speaker 6: that area, aren't they.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, the team is and and that's why you know,

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Speaker 5: with the Max Crosby thinking, and he deserves all the

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Speaker 5: accolades he gets, you know, his energy, his production, what

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Speaker 5: he does for the other guys on the front step.

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Speaker 5: There's no question Max deserves everything that's been given to

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Speaker 5: him as a guy who was a fourth round pick

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Speaker 5: out of Eastern Michigan and you know, really burst onto

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Speaker 5: the scene right right from the get go, and you know,

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Speaker 5: off the field stuff that you're living the life of

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Speaker 5: her and things that he's so vocal about too. And

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Speaker 5: you know now big in the media with his podcast

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Speaker 5: and and let's go with Jim Grayham series exam so

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Speaker 5: you know, he's big on a lot of different fronts

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Speaker 5: and and very vocal about wanting to stay with the Raiders.

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Speaker 5: As there's been you know, aspects of of this trade

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Speaker 5: talk over the last couple of weeks. But I would

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Speaker 5: say this, you know, one of the things that's been impressive.

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Speaker 5: And this is just my third year with this organization,

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Speaker 5: and the defense two years ago was really bad, guys

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Speaker 5: like really bad. Last year, you got some of those

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Speaker 5: names that nobody talks about really coming to the forefront

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Speaker 5: and playing well. And it's happening again this year. And

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Speaker 5: you know, Roberts Fulane is a big part of that.

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Speaker 5: The middle linebacker who came over from Pittsburgh who you know,

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Speaker 5: it didn't really have a lot of people chasing after

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Speaker 5: him when he was a free agent couple of years ago.

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Speaker 5: But man, it's he been awesome, uh, for this team

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Speaker 5: and along the front seven. You know, Adam Butler's kind

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Speaker 5: of been a journeyman Patriots and Dolphins, but he has

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Speaker 5: played so well and his energy is beating off of

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Speaker 5: Max Crosby, and you know, they're starting to get some

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Speaker 5: stuff from Tyree Wilson, the number seven pick last year.

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Speaker 5: He u you know, statistically it doesn't jump off of you,

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Speaker 5: but there's a lot of plays where he's been really close.

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Speaker 5: He sacked Patrick Mahomes last week. He had another play

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Speaker 5: where he forced Patrick throw it out of bounds, chasing

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Speaker 5: him down. So he started to come along too on

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Speaker 5: the opposite side, which is really helping the back end

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Speaker 5: because our back end, again, not a lot of names

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Speaker 5: back there, right, There's not a got bunch of guys

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Speaker 5: on the defensive secondary who people around the NFL know,

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Speaker 5: But they played so well and obviously there's credit to

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Speaker 5: the front seven.

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Speaker 6: For that Splaine. How bad is that knee injury?

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Speaker 3: Did?

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Speaker 6: He didn't practice today? The two guys that didn't go,

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Speaker 6: James didn't go. The center didn't go with an ankle injury,

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Speaker 6: and he didn't go with a knee injury.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, you know, it's interesting with Andre James. You know,

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Speaker 5: a lot of money went to different centers around the

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Speaker 5: NFL in this offseason and Andre James is a free

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Speaker 5: agent and they re signed him to a three year,

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Speaker 5: I want to say, twenty four million dollar deal, which

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Speaker 5: was a lot less than what a lot of guys

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Speaker 5: around the league got. Because he has played, he has

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Speaker 5: been a bellcoal for this team for the last few years.

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Speaker 5: He has struggled this year, and I wonder when they

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Speaker 5: drafted Jackson Powers Johnson in the second round out of Oregon,

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Speaker 5: who's been our starting guard the last five weeks. I

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Speaker 5: wonder how much thought they were having him play center,

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Speaker 5: because he was the Roomingtod Trophy last season right as

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Speaker 5: a best center in college football. But it was really

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Speaker 5: the first time he'd ever played center. And so it's

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Speaker 5: interesting that if if in fact Andre James can't go,

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Speaker 5: they have someone who has that accolade maybe slide over

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Speaker 5: and play center. Roberts Blaine's injury happened towards the end

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Speaker 5: and he got rolled up on and you know, was

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Speaker 5: helped off the field. He did come back after the

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Speaker 5: injury last week, so you know, obviously he was able

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Speaker 5: to play beyond that, but he would be a big loss.

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Speaker 5: He is with Max Crosby, the epicenter of this defense

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Speaker 5: and the guy who is just cleaning up everything and

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Speaker 5: he comes on blitz this. He's got four picks since

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Speaker 5: the start of last year. He's a tackling machine. I

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Speaker 5: think I think he's number six heading into this week

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Speaker 5: and tackles in the NFL. So he really has been everywhere.

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Speaker 5: So him not being there if he can't play Thunder

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Speaker 5: big one right, thanks.

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