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Speaker 1: What's up? Everybody? DJ here from Move the Sticks along

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Speaker 1: with Bucky Brooks our podcast. We look at the NFL

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Speaker 1: through a player personnel perspective, looking at teams, looking at matchup,

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Speaker 1: looking at the NFL Draft. You can catch us on

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Speaker 1: as iTunes. The Around the NFL Podcast have never ever

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Speaker 1: turned down a free drink. Welcome back to another edition

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Speaker 1: of the Around the NFL Podcast. My name is Dan

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Speaker 1: Hands and I am joined by a room, Bill do

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Speaker 1: he Rose, Colleen Wolf, Chris Westling, and Greg Rose. Though.

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Speaker 1: What's up? Boys and woman? Hey? Dan, Hey, hey, hey, hey, Now,

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Speaker 1: what's up? Connie Fox? It's great to be back. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: always belong in the Sessler chair. Yeah. Did you hear

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Speaker 1: yesterday's show? Buddy Chins, I am like ten minutes in. Okay,

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Speaker 1: it sounds like a lie. Yeah, it is your right

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Speaker 1: on that chair. Um No, but Mark let us know

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Speaker 1: yesterday that he was going to let let himself go

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Speaker 1: physically and give his life over to cool Ranch Dorito's

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Speaker 1: and what was it? Who knows? Uh yeah, illness, White

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Speaker 1: Brad was bread Dorito's French fries. I haven't always been

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Speaker 1: like this, So he's going full Gilbert grape mom. Wow,

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Speaker 1: he doesn't even like food though, How is this going

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Speaker 1: to work out? I don't know. We're starting the podcast

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Speaker 1: right after two o'clock. At two oh one, we all

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Speaker 1: get a text from Mark. Is this breaking news? West

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Speaker 1: Sighting News. Colon just weighed myself and I've gained six

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Speaker 1: pounds this week alone. I told Mark I believed in him.

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Speaker 1: I believe anybody. I don't even believe that tech. You

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Speaker 1: know I support this. I'm also gonna let myself go.

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Speaker 1: Let's all just put on as each this season. Um,

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Speaker 1: I like, how Greg, you support him in this and

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Speaker 1: That's that true that you always just made a point

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Speaker 1: that you believed in him extra I never believe. I

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Speaker 1: going up in flames here physically I do. Well. I

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Speaker 1: think it's a funny bit, Marks, The whole life is

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Speaker 1: a funny bit. Well, now we have Colleen here, who

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Speaker 1: has dedicated her life to fitness. So oh yeah, the

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Speaker 1: opposite situation. Yeah, it's I've been I've been working out

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Speaker 1: like Greg claims he's never lifted away. Oh please, Connie,

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Speaker 1: Well mine seems more easily verified. You're one of those people, Connie,

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Speaker 1: I guess, but not for long. It's all well, even

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Speaker 1: if it turns tomorrow. Yeah, that's a pretty nice run.

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Speaker 1: I mean it's been pretty good. I haven't had to

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Speaker 1: I mean that's it's great. Thanks. I hate you. I

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Speaker 1: we love having you here, Connie Fox. Uh. So today's show,

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Speaker 1: We're gonna keep it simple. It's gonna be a fun show.

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Speaker 1: This is the last show before the next show, first

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Speaker 1: of all. But the next show is a show that

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Speaker 1: takes place in the week where there's a real football game.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, one week away from football is what I'm

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Speaker 1: trying to say. Well, we'll be we'll be predicting the

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Speaker 1: season with one of our most popular shows every year. Right.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, some sandwich props, Yeah, go get my lunch.

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Speaker 1: You're broken toilet the new one, Yeah, I think that'll

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Speaker 1: Mr Anti Lanister Dave damashek anyone who ever loses a

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Speaker 1: never pay. It's basically just something the way it works out.

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Speaker 1: Irishman sandwiches the gold standard pick. But he's the exception. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: So I'm curious where we all come down and where

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Speaker 1: There's more Colin Kaepernick controversy. Apparently UM. He had before

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Speaker 1: there should be the timpany or the drum roll on

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Speaker 1: their Irish. The Denver Broncos number nine, so compelling right

423
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Speaker 1: off the bat, the defending super Bowl champion at number nine,

424
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Speaker 1: and I'm just curious in this room, not a ton

425
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Speaker 1: of respect. Where did you guys have the Broncos? And

426
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Speaker 1: I'll start with you, Colleen. I had them at eight,

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Speaker 1: all right, right there, West. I have to look through

428
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Speaker 1: my sent items to see where I had them. I

429
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Speaker 1: had You had them at ten West and I had

430
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Speaker 1: it was like West's inner monologue. For some reason, we

431
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Speaker 1: were told we had him at tent. I had him

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Speaker 1: at tent. And what I found was interesting that three

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Speaker 1: a f C. West teams are high up, and in

434
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Speaker 1: general I had three. I think I had three eight

435
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Speaker 1: all four a f C West teams I put in

436
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Speaker 1: my top twelve teams in the league. I think that's

437
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Speaker 1: how good this division is. Anyway, it's gonna be tough

438
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Speaker 1: for that. Where did you have them? I had them

439
00:24:00,320 --> 00:24:03,000
Speaker 1: out of the playoffs, but tenth in the NFL had eleven.

440
00:24:03,680 --> 00:24:06,439
Speaker 1: I had them time. You had them tenth, and you

441
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Speaker 1: had them tent. So I guess that means that the

442
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Speaker 1: rest of the group pumped them up, maybe a little bit.

443
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Speaker 1: But we're all kind of in lockstep on this. That

444
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Speaker 1: that UM kind of what we're talking about yesterday. It's

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Speaker 1: gonna be tough for them to repeat, especially if they

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Speaker 1: have problems at the quarterback position. Uh number, especially with

447
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Speaker 1: the Raiders and the Chiefs and the Chargers are all

448
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Speaker 1: all in that division. Here's the rest of UM six

449
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Speaker 1: through nine through six Chiefs at eight Bengals at seven,

450
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Speaker 1: Steelers at six and there and there was a little

451
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Speaker 1: cut off there. So this group Steelers, Bengals, Chiefs, Broncos

452
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Speaker 1: is kind of in that secondary like we you know,

453
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Speaker 1: definitely look like playoff type teams, but not quite in

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Speaker 1: that upper echelon that those two a f C North

455
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Speaker 1: teams and the two a f C West teams. All right,

456
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Speaker 1: here's nine through six, the Broncos, Chiefs, Bengals, and Steelers

457
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Speaker 1: and Greg. That's another neat cut off point, isn't it

458
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Speaker 1: It is? That's kind of the group group. I guess,

459
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Speaker 1: if we're breaking it out, we had these like top

460
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Speaker 1: five power teams that were one spot, and then these

461
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Speaker 1: other four teams, the two a f C North, two

462
00:25:07,840 --> 00:25:10,520
Speaker 1: a f C West teams that we see as playoff

463
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Speaker 1: type of teams but not quite you know, the elite West.

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Speaker 1: Do you disagree with any of those teams being that high?

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Speaker 1: Do you have any of those that you dropped way lower? No,

466
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Speaker 1: this list is going almost identical to my own list,

467
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Speaker 1: the top five. I agree. I feel like there are

468
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Speaker 1: five superpowers in the NFL right now. The four teams

469
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Speaker 1: in the NFC Seahawks, Cardinals, Panthers, Packers, and the Patriots

470
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Speaker 1: are alone at the top in the a f C.

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Speaker 1: I do feel like it's a little weighted right now

472
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Speaker 1: towards towards the NFC. I think the better rosters are

473
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Speaker 1: in the NFC. Yeah, I thought the same thing when

474
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Speaker 1: I was doing this exercise. Here is now that top

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Speaker 1: five counting down. Um, the Packers at five, the Panthers,

476
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Speaker 1: the defending NFC champions, a team that won uh seventeen

477
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Speaker 1: games last year. At number four. We have the Cardinals

478
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Speaker 1: at three, the Patriots a two, which can leave only

479
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Speaker 1: one team. If you haven't figured it out, probably haven't

480
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Speaker 1: been following the NFL very closely the last few years.

481
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Speaker 1: Our number one team in the preseason po Seattle Seahawks.

482
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Speaker 1: So give me a little no. I hate it when

483
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Speaker 1: you have asthma too, don't you. Yes, it sounds like

484
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Speaker 1: my lungs at night. People with asthma. When you hear

485
00:26:36,520 --> 00:26:39,160
Speaker 1: someone else wheezing or can't breathe, it has that effect

486
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Speaker 1: on you, like when you know, when people hear other

487
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Speaker 1: people sneeze, it's contagious, like you sneeze. When I hear

488
00:26:43,920 --> 00:26:47,159
Speaker 1: people struggle to breathe, I can't breathe. So this side

489
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Speaker 1: of the table doesn't like that shoably. That's what I

490
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Speaker 1: was asking you yesterday. I feel like I'm having trouble breathing.

491
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Speaker 1: Thank you. So it's some type of psychological Yeah, well,

492
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Speaker 1: let's play it again. Oh no, No, it's like the

493
00:27:03,480 --> 00:27:08,640
Speaker 1: equivalent of using a dog whistle. It's like sympathy paint. Um. Yeah,

494
00:27:08,680 --> 00:27:11,200
Speaker 1: the Seahawks are number one, and if I look, let's

495
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Speaker 1: see five of us Tatra, Sessler, Rosenthal, Connor or all

496
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Speaker 1: number one, and then the old Zeuser me had him

497
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Speaker 1: at two. Colleen has them all the way down at four. Yeah.

498
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Speaker 1: Why four? Why did three teams get ahead of the Seahawks?

499
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Speaker 1: What's fun? No? When I was doing this, I actually

500
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Speaker 1: I sent Gregg the email and said that this is

501
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Speaker 1: an irresponsible list. But I'm hungry now. That's not irresponse.

502
00:27:42,480 --> 00:27:44,439
Speaker 1: That's not It's not like it's a crazy thing that

503
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Speaker 1: they would be four. They weren't even in the top

504
00:27:46,119 --> 00:27:48,040
Speaker 1: four at the end of last Please make a note

505
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Speaker 1: to remove Colleen. Um No. I just think that that

506
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Speaker 1: division is really tough. And for the Seahawks, I think

507
00:27:57,560 --> 00:27:59,959
Speaker 1: that everything is going so well for them right now,

508
00:28:00,320 --> 00:28:02,880
Speaker 1: and I think that hopes are so high for them

509
00:28:02,880 --> 00:28:05,760
Speaker 1: that it almost scares me away in Arizona ahead of him.

510
00:28:05,800 --> 00:28:09,680
Speaker 1: So you you're saying, because the NFC West is tough

511
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Speaker 1: and the Cardinals are there, that could lead to them

512
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Speaker 1: having a nice season obviously if you have them four,

513
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Speaker 1: But because you don't see them winning the division, which

514
00:28:17,440 --> 00:28:19,119
Speaker 1: means you'll have to go on the road, no boys,

515
00:28:19,720 --> 00:28:21,639
Speaker 1: that they'll get clipped because that and will make them

516
00:28:21,640 --> 00:28:26,080
Speaker 1: a lesser Team's logic there. Why did you doubt yourself?

517
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Speaker 1: I don't. I'm not. You're hungry, that's all. I was

518
00:28:28,520 --> 00:28:31,320
Speaker 1: really hungry and I need. It's crazy that we all

519
00:28:31,359 --> 00:28:34,560
Speaker 1: agree so much about everything here in the top five.

520
00:28:34,640 --> 00:28:37,639
Speaker 1: The only person that had any one of these teams

521
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Speaker 1: outside of the top five was Dan Handss. You you

522
00:28:40,640 --> 00:28:43,520
Speaker 1: happen to have the Steelers at four and the Patriots

523
00:28:43,560 --> 00:28:46,160
Speaker 1: at six, which is nothing crazy. I don't think. It's

524
00:28:46,200 --> 00:28:49,360
Speaker 1: also like a deep seated hatred of that's true. Well,

525
00:28:49,440 --> 00:28:52,200
Speaker 1: if I'm gonna know, it's all rooted in a shocking fashion.

526
00:28:52,480 --> 00:28:55,120
Speaker 1: Dan had a small gap seven and nine between the

527
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Speaker 1: Patriots and Jets. I don't think anyone else's Patriots Jets

528
00:28:59,080 --> 00:29:01,400
Speaker 1: gap was so to me. I remind everyone that you

529
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Speaker 1: guys laughed at me in the same exercise when I

530
00:29:03,520 --> 00:29:05,080
Speaker 1: had the Jets in are in the top ten, and

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Speaker 1: I think the Jets are better this year than they

532
00:29:06,840 --> 00:29:09,960
Speaker 1: were last year. Um, the Patriots are there only because

533
00:29:11,200 --> 00:29:13,480
Speaker 1: they're in a four game hole without Brady that could

534
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Speaker 1: be bad, and slight regression with Tom Brady this year,

535
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Speaker 1: as I've noted many times, will lead them to be,

536
00:29:23,200 --> 00:29:28,360
Speaker 1: surprisingly to many people the football COGNIZENTI a little bit

537
00:29:28,360 --> 00:29:30,640
Speaker 1: worse than we expected. I'm still I think they'll still

538
00:29:30,640 --> 00:29:34,960
Speaker 1: win about eleven games or so. But between yeah, well

539
00:29:35,000 --> 00:29:36,880
Speaker 1: from thirteen to eleven and not winning a Super Bowl

540
00:29:37,000 --> 00:29:39,880
Speaker 1: or getting to the Super Bowl. Um, I think Garoppolo

541
00:29:39,960 --> 00:29:44,040
Speaker 1: and a lesser Brady equals a weaker Patriots all being

542
00:29:44,040 --> 00:29:45,720
Speaker 1: ahead of the curb. Well, I don't think that's crazy.

543
00:29:45,760 --> 00:29:47,800
Speaker 1: It's gonna happen. I've been as a Patriots fan. I've

544
00:29:47,840 --> 00:29:50,040
Speaker 1: been waiting for it to happen. It's insane. No team

545
00:29:50,080 --> 00:29:52,240
Speaker 1: in the NFL history has ever had more than four

546
00:29:52,280 --> 00:29:55,000
Speaker 1: buys in a row the Patriots have had. I think

547
00:29:55,000 --> 00:29:58,160
Speaker 1: they're going for seven. I think they've had five or six.

548
00:29:58,520 --> 00:30:00,880
Speaker 1: It has to stop sometimes. Maybe it won't be this year.

549
00:30:00,960 --> 00:30:03,760
Speaker 1: I mean, can't we just replay yours and Dan's comments

550
00:30:03,760 --> 00:30:06,560
Speaker 1: from the last summer. That's a fair point. I didn't say.

551
00:30:06,600 --> 00:30:08,560
Speaker 1: I didn't say Brady was going to regress last year.

552
00:30:08,560 --> 00:30:10,360
Speaker 1: We all not say that. I like we all like

553
00:30:10,480 --> 00:30:12,200
Speaker 1: we all think the Packers can. I just said one

554
00:30:12,200 --> 00:30:14,000
Speaker 1: more thing about the Pats, the fact that there's still

555
00:30:14,480 --> 00:30:17,160
Speaker 1: the top six right now. That's just me doing this.

556
00:30:20,000 --> 00:30:23,440
Speaker 1: I respect the Patriots. I hate that he's starting this

557
00:30:23,520 --> 00:30:28,000
Speaker 1: fourth preseason game. I think that's the worst idea ever. Well,

558
00:30:28,040 --> 00:30:30,560
Speaker 1: we'll see what happens anyway. I thieve a little more

559
00:30:30,560 --> 00:30:33,720
Speaker 1: worried about their backfield, wrong opinions on the fourth preseason

560
00:30:33,760 --> 00:30:36,080
Speaker 1: games from I don't know, I could just see something

561
00:30:36,080 --> 00:30:38,400
Speaker 1: bad happening. So we all, we all like the Seahawks

562
00:30:38,400 --> 00:30:40,960
Speaker 1: a lot this year, and um, we'll see how how

563
00:30:40,960 --> 00:30:43,000
Speaker 1: it plays out. But I've noticed one thing I've thought

564
00:30:43,000 --> 00:30:45,640
Speaker 1: about with the NFL. It has been more there has

565
00:30:45,680 --> 00:30:49,600
Speaker 1: been less parody, and there has been more continuity among

566
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Speaker 1: the power teams this decade than there had been the

567
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Speaker 1: previous decade. I think that is very fair to say

568
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Speaker 1: that the Seahawks have been the number one team in

569
00:30:58,000 --> 00:31:01,360
Speaker 1: Football Outsiders four straight years. The Hatriots have have made

570
00:31:01,600 --> 00:31:04,320
Speaker 1: gotten to by every year. The Broncos have won twelve

571
00:31:04,400 --> 00:31:07,480
Speaker 1: games for four straight years. At this point, the pack

572
00:31:07,560 --> 00:31:09,760
Speaker 1: the Packers are basically in the playoffs seven straight years.

573
00:31:09,760 --> 00:31:12,080
Speaker 1: There's so many teams that are good year after year.

574
00:31:12,200 --> 00:31:13,960
Speaker 1: We're kind of back to the early nineties. It's a

575
00:31:13,960 --> 00:31:17,040
Speaker 1: good point because the NFL gets a lot of pub

576
00:31:17,160 --> 00:31:19,400
Speaker 1: for being this league of parody, but it isn't really

577
00:31:19,440 --> 00:31:22,880
Speaker 1: all right now. Maybe I feel like we're due for

578
00:31:22,920 --> 00:31:24,960
Speaker 1: a year where it all blows up and in half

579
00:31:24,960 --> 00:31:27,560
Speaker 1: of these teams don't do well. But it hasn't happened

580
00:31:27,560 --> 00:31:29,760
Speaker 1: in a while, all right, So those those nine teams,

581
00:31:29,760 --> 00:31:33,840
Speaker 1: and especially those first five teams, we're all we would

582
00:31:33,880 --> 00:31:37,440
Speaker 1: all be surprised if they weren't real players in the season. Now,

583
00:31:37,560 --> 00:31:40,800
Speaker 1: let's go kind of to the middle portion. Uh, when

584
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Speaker 1: we talk about teams that are good to average, and uh,

585
00:31:45,640 --> 00:31:50,560
Speaker 1: we'll start with ten through fifteen. The Raiders at ten

586
00:31:50,880 --> 00:31:53,520
Speaker 1: that which is a little bit high, I thought, especially

587
00:31:53,560 --> 00:31:56,200
Speaker 1: after our conversation on this pod the day before. But

588
00:31:56,600 --> 00:31:58,320
Speaker 1: none of us really had them in the playoffs. But

589
00:31:58,400 --> 00:32:01,400
Speaker 1: we still I think I think they'll be right headitive

590
00:32:01,440 --> 00:32:05,240
Speaker 1: and decent. Uh. The Texans, who of course, UH won

591
00:32:05,240 --> 00:32:08,920
Speaker 1: their division last year at eleven, the Cowboys at twelve,

592
00:32:09,320 --> 00:32:12,840
Speaker 1: the Ravens at thirteen, the Jets at fourteen, and the

593
00:32:12,920 --> 00:32:15,760
Speaker 1: Jaguars at fifteen. Greg, what did you saying wow to

594
00:32:16,320 --> 00:32:18,920
Speaker 1: the Texans? I guess because you know I was the one.

595
00:32:18,960 --> 00:32:22,200
Speaker 1: I didn't even have them in my top twenty. Uh.

596
00:32:22,360 --> 00:32:24,520
Speaker 1: Connor or is a big Texans fan this year, has

597
00:32:24,560 --> 00:32:27,960
Speaker 1: them in nine. Dan, you've got them at ten or

598
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Speaker 1: eleven or so you know you didn't number it's probably,

599
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Speaker 1: um no, don't, no, I don't. I don't see them

600
00:32:35,320 --> 00:32:37,960
Speaker 1: in that same group, but reasonable minds could disagree. Their

601
00:32:37,960 --> 00:32:40,160
Speaker 1: defense could certainly be a top five defense. I had

602
00:32:40,160 --> 00:32:42,080
Speaker 1: them at eleven, so I was right up there too.

603
00:32:42,800 --> 00:32:45,440
Speaker 1: I mean, if you have I think according to this list,

604
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Speaker 1: West correct me if I'm wrong. But if you're if

605
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Speaker 1: we're putting these teams in that ten to fifteen range,

606
00:32:50,360 --> 00:32:51,800
Speaker 1: we have them as like kind of an eight to

607
00:32:51,880 --> 00:32:54,800
Speaker 1: ten win outfit. For the most part, I think that's fair.

608
00:32:54,880 --> 00:32:57,560
Speaker 1: I think that there's those are teams that could sneak

609
00:32:57,560 --> 00:32:59,960
Speaker 1: into the playoffs in a wild card type of way.

610
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Speaker 1: The Texans, I think are interesting. I had a lot

611
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Speaker 1: of these divisions like Chiefs, Broncos, Raiders. I had eight, nine,

612
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Speaker 1: and ten, and I think I had the NFC South Titans, Jags,

613
00:33:09,000 --> 00:33:13,760
Speaker 1: Texans as like even And this speaks to it could

614
00:33:13,800 --> 00:33:16,280
Speaker 1: speak to one of two things. One that the Cowboys

615
00:33:16,280 --> 00:33:19,200
Speaker 1: got lucky and hit the jackpot with Dak Prescott, or

616
00:33:19,400 --> 00:33:22,800
Speaker 1: will look stupid in uh two months from now when

617
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Speaker 1: we look at this list again, or a month from

618
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Speaker 1: now whenever, because the Cowboys we haven't met at number twelve,

619
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Speaker 1: which is a pretty nice place to be considering Tony

620
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Speaker 1: Romo just broke his back. I mean in the past

621
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Speaker 1: any other year in the past five or six years,

622
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Speaker 1: if that happened, would they'd be away in the twenties?

623
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Speaker 1: I would think to me, I I wouldn't put the

624
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Speaker 1: Cowboys as the twelfth best team if Tony Romo was healthy.

625
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Speaker 1: So I'm really surprised to see him in a couple

626
00:33:47,240 --> 00:33:51,120
Speaker 1: of people's top ten teams. Well, you haven't done at five.

627
00:33:52,520 --> 00:33:54,400
Speaker 1: I think it's not a good defense and you have

628
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Speaker 1: a rookie quarterback. I'm not putting that much in the press,

629
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Speaker 1: like I like Dak Prescott, but to me, what is

630
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Speaker 1: the what is the you're best case scenario for Dak

631
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Speaker 1: Prescott that he's a Mariota or Winston type guy. Is

632
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Speaker 1: a rookie, that's that. That's a good a good player.

633
00:34:07,880 --> 00:34:10,640
Speaker 1: Obviously he'll be supported more than those two best case scenarios.

634
00:34:10,640 --> 00:34:13,759
Speaker 1: Cowboys go six and oh and then get remote, and

635
00:34:14,239 --> 00:34:17,120
Speaker 1: I mean by definition that's the best case scenario. Sure,

636
00:34:17,239 --> 00:34:20,120
Speaker 1: that's the best case sceny area. But to me send

637
00:34:20,280 --> 00:34:22,319
Speaker 1: a message that had nothing to do with football, I'm saying,

638
00:34:22,400 --> 00:34:23,640
Speaker 1: is he is he going to be a better than

639
00:34:23,680 --> 00:34:26,120
Speaker 1: average starting quarterback? I don't see it right away. That

640
00:34:26,239 --> 00:34:29,719
Speaker 1: seems that seems expecting too much. The quarterbacks they had

641
00:34:29,800 --> 00:34:32,120
Speaker 1: last year with the bad defense. Yes, I think quarterbacks

642
00:34:32,120 --> 00:34:34,520
Speaker 1: they had last year were the worst quarterbacks in the NFL.

643
00:34:34,640 --> 00:34:38,480
Speaker 1: Matt Castle and Kellen Moore and those guys well, actually

644
00:34:38,520 --> 00:34:41,640
Speaker 1: Brandon Weeden too. So those guys didn't have Dez Bryant,

645
00:34:42,160 --> 00:34:44,680
Speaker 1: they didn't have Ezekiel Elliott. That's true. I think those

646
00:34:44,719 --> 00:34:47,680
Speaker 1: are two difference making talents. He set up well just

647
00:34:47,719 --> 00:34:49,799
Speaker 1: to be a manager too. If he can do that,

648
00:34:49,920 --> 00:34:51,719
Speaker 1: if he can just like get through and not make

649
00:34:51,760 --> 00:34:54,400
Speaker 1: too many mistakes, that's asking a lot of a rookie.

650
00:34:54,400 --> 00:34:56,799
Speaker 1: But if he can behind that offensive line, he has,

651
00:34:56,880 --> 00:34:59,520
Speaker 1: does he has Ezekiel Elliott? Well, they're on primetime a lot,

652
00:34:59,560 --> 00:35:02,359
Speaker 1: and it's fun me that losing Romo does not make

653
00:35:02,440 --> 00:35:06,200
Speaker 1: them less watchable. Like I am not annoyed that they're

654
00:35:06,239 --> 00:35:08,919
Speaker 1: in primetime a lot early in the season because of Eli,

655
00:35:09,040 --> 00:35:11,839
Speaker 1: because of Dac. If nothing else, they're interesting. Mark had

656
00:35:11,880 --> 00:35:14,640
Speaker 1: the Cowboys in the top ten at number nine. Patra

657
00:35:14,800 --> 00:35:17,680
Speaker 1: had them at ten. West, you had them at eleven.

658
00:35:17,719 --> 00:35:20,840
Speaker 1: I had him at fourteen. Only Colleen and and Greg

659
00:35:20,880 --> 00:35:25,480
Speaker 1: really had them buried, uh in the standing so interesting.

660
00:35:26,800 --> 00:35:29,280
Speaker 1: Connor and I bow fourteen, which I think is appropriate.

661
00:35:29,320 --> 00:35:31,560
Speaker 1: I think you know, you guys are being a little

662
00:35:31,600 --> 00:35:35,040
Speaker 1: You're the Eagles girl, you're burying them? Yeah, of course.

663
00:35:35,239 --> 00:35:37,279
Speaker 1: Do you think they're winning the division still with with

664
00:35:37,320 --> 00:35:39,879
Speaker 1: Tony Romo danger? I think they're still gonna do it,

665
00:35:40,120 --> 00:35:42,920
Speaker 1: But I also could see it going to hell. But

666
00:35:43,040 --> 00:35:45,279
Speaker 1: that's just the Cowboys every year. To me, it's like

667
00:35:45,320 --> 00:35:48,680
Speaker 1: I put the almost the entire in NFC South and

668
00:35:48,800 --> 00:35:51,479
Speaker 1: the n f C West ahead of the entire NFC East.

669
00:35:52,440 --> 00:35:56,120
Speaker 1: I would rather take the Falcons or Saints even over

670
00:35:56,160 --> 00:35:59,560
Speaker 1: that entire division. Colleen's gotta go, I gotta go, you

671
00:35:59,600 --> 00:36:01,440
Speaker 1: gotta go gotta get out of here. I don't want

672
00:36:01,440 --> 00:36:06,560
Speaker 1: to leave. I gotta go over the NFL now side. Yeah,

673
00:36:06,640 --> 00:36:09,200
Speaker 1: I gotta. I gotta finish curling the side of my hair. Yeah.

674
00:36:09,480 --> 00:36:13,120
Speaker 1: I wouldn't never have noticed, but I didn't. I wouldn't

675
00:36:13,120 --> 00:36:16,600
Speaker 1: have noticed. Connie Fox is off. We knew, we knew

676
00:36:17,200 --> 00:36:20,040
Speaker 1: time was short, and uh we we thought, hey, what

677
00:36:20,120 --> 00:36:22,680
Speaker 1: we'd rather get six innings out of Colleen than than

678
00:36:22,760 --> 00:36:25,880
Speaker 1: nothing bringing the pen quality start. But it's the equivalent

679
00:36:25,880 --> 00:36:27,840
Speaker 1: of of getting six innings out of the starter and

680
00:36:27,880 --> 00:36:30,600
Speaker 1: then not having another reliever to come in the game.

681
00:36:31,120 --> 00:36:34,279
Speaker 1: That's where the analogy falls. Yeah, sorry, rain delay, she

682
00:36:34,320 --> 00:36:37,440
Speaker 1: still gets the whim. That's true. All right. Here we

683
00:36:37,480 --> 00:36:41,600
Speaker 1: go number sixteen through twenty, and there's the answer right there,

684
00:36:42,120 --> 00:36:44,799
Speaker 1: the Vikings coming right at sixteen at the Dalton line,

685
00:36:45,320 --> 00:36:50,920
Speaker 1: h Chargers seventeen, Titans eighteen, Redskins nineteen, and the Saints

686
00:36:51,040 --> 00:36:53,840
Speaker 1: at twenty. And let's see, let's break down the Vikings

687
00:36:53,880 --> 00:36:57,200
Speaker 1: a little bit amongst the group. Wes you have them

688
00:36:57,200 --> 00:37:02,680
Speaker 1: down at twenty four, Patra has them at thirteen, Colleen

689
00:37:02,960 --> 00:37:10,080
Speaker 1: had them. Let's Colleen have them twenty three? Mark had

690
00:37:10,160 --> 00:37:14,320
Speaker 1: them at Mark loves the Vikings at eleven. That makes sense,

691
00:37:14,719 --> 00:37:20,799
Speaker 1: Greg at thirteen, Zeusser at thirteen, and Connor at seventeen,

692
00:37:20,920 --> 00:37:27,800
Speaker 1: So none of us traumatic against him. Let's hear why quarterback?

693
00:37:28,280 --> 00:37:31,000
Speaker 1: There you go. You mentioned Sean Hill might not be

694
00:37:31,040 --> 00:37:33,000
Speaker 1: the same player at age thirty six that he was

695
00:37:33,040 --> 00:37:35,280
Speaker 1: the last time we saw him, when he was physically

696
00:37:35,320 --> 00:37:39,600
Speaker 1: diminished and not really a great backup quarterback. I think

697
00:37:39,640 --> 00:37:42,879
Speaker 1: he's probably about the fiftieth best quarterback in the league

698
00:37:42,960 --> 00:37:47,800
Speaker 1: right now. And if he gets injured, which old quarterbacks

699
00:37:47,800 --> 00:37:49,760
Speaker 1: are known to get injured, and the last time he started,

700
00:37:49,760 --> 00:37:54,759
Speaker 1: he got injured. They go with Joel. Joel, I think

701
00:37:54,760 --> 00:37:57,520
Speaker 1: we should talk about their quarterback situation. Randy Moss of

702
00:37:57,920 --> 00:38:02,240
Speaker 1: NFL Network, Um, not that Randy Moss, other Randy Moss,

703
00:38:02,239 --> 00:38:06,399
Speaker 1: the racing one from NBC his whole life. I mean,

704
00:38:06,440 --> 00:38:09,160
Speaker 1: how how annoyed was he when when the other Randy

705
00:38:09,160 --> 00:38:12,239
Speaker 1: Moss popped up and kill It's a killer development that

706
00:38:12,280 --> 00:38:14,319
Speaker 1: you never recover of him. It's like when the guy

707
00:38:14,400 --> 00:38:17,000
Speaker 1: that called I mean, it's not as bad as the

708
00:38:17,080 --> 00:38:21,719
Speaker 1: Ravens broadcast Jerry, Yeah that nothing will ever beat that.

709
00:38:21,800 --> 00:38:25,040
Speaker 1: But yeah, I got off track. He reported, you know,

710
00:38:25,040 --> 00:38:28,279
Speaker 1: the Vikings do not expect Sean Hill to be able

711
00:38:28,280 --> 00:38:32,160
Speaker 1: to the last sixteen games. So he he is saying,

712
00:38:32,760 --> 00:38:39,600
Speaker 1: he is saying rand said that, Randy Moss said that NFL, Yeah,

713
00:38:39,680 --> 00:38:43,439
Speaker 1: you should. There's gonna be another player that that has

714
00:38:43,520 --> 00:38:46,600
Speaker 1: some potential that's a quarterback for that team that's either

715
00:38:46,640 --> 00:38:49,080
Speaker 1: started games before or from the sound of it, they

716
00:38:49,080 --> 00:38:51,840
Speaker 1: almost are looking for, to me, like a Mike Glennon type.

717
00:38:52,239 --> 00:38:54,480
Speaker 1: And I think they're gonna be ready to give up

718
00:38:54,480 --> 00:38:56,600
Speaker 1: a draft pick to get someone that they think have

719
00:38:56,719 --> 00:38:58,239
Speaker 1: like a little bit of a potential. I don't know

720
00:38:58,280 --> 00:39:01,479
Speaker 1: if it's just someone. If they go get Mike glenn

721
00:39:01,520 --> 00:39:03,960
Speaker 1: and I'm moving him down to twenty seven, I mean,

722
00:39:04,040 --> 00:39:05,960
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, They're gonna get someone that's

723
00:39:05,960 --> 00:39:07,880
Speaker 1: gonna start a lot of games for them by the

724
00:39:07,920 --> 00:39:10,080
Speaker 1: next time we we tape a podcast, I ain't we'll

725
00:39:10,120 --> 00:39:12,760
Speaker 1: know who. Can you hear that over the Hills through

726
00:39:12,800 --> 00:39:20,399
Speaker 1: the air? Jane going there? But I think that give

727
00:39:20,760 --> 00:39:22,759
Speaker 1: a chance. Wait the second, why doesn't that makes sense

728
00:39:22,800 --> 00:39:25,560
Speaker 1: by Jason or we move on? Why doesn't that make sense?

729
00:39:25,880 --> 00:39:28,359
Speaker 1: If Bryce Petty plays well on Thursday and the Jets

730
00:39:28,400 --> 00:39:30,359
Speaker 1: are feeling bully nerve turned to would have to watch

731
00:39:30,400 --> 00:39:33,360
Speaker 1: Geno Smith. Why doesn't it make sense because there's a

732
00:39:33,360 --> 00:39:35,360
Speaker 1: reason why you don't want him in a jet uniform.

733
00:39:35,800 --> 00:39:38,960
Speaker 1: Why would the Vikings want You're because they have thirty

734
00:39:39,000 --> 00:39:41,120
Speaker 1: six year old Sean Hill trying? So why not go

735
00:39:41,200 --> 00:39:42,880
Speaker 1: get a better guy than Gina who has not been

736
00:39:42,920 --> 00:39:45,640
Speaker 1: well like Room, hasn't played well in the field. Who's

737
00:39:45,680 --> 00:39:48,000
Speaker 1: better option than Gino Smith? Right now? Just about not

738
00:39:48,040 --> 00:39:50,880
Speaker 1: about who? Seriously, it is hard to come up with

739
00:39:51,040 --> 00:39:55,160
Speaker 1: unless you like Colin cap Mark Sanchez. Do you think

740
00:39:55,200 --> 00:39:57,680
Speaker 1: Sanchez is better than Gino? I think Gino comes with

741
00:39:58,200 --> 00:40:02,560
Speaker 1: some other complications. Who who? It's fair? It's an interesting

742
00:40:02,600 --> 00:40:04,440
Speaker 1: that you have the Vikings down there part so you

743
00:40:04,440 --> 00:40:07,839
Speaker 1: would say you'd rather have the Cowboys. Let's say that

744
00:40:08,200 --> 00:40:11,279
Speaker 1: just for the sake of argument, DAC, Let's ignore the

745
00:40:11,360 --> 00:40:15,640
Speaker 1: quarterback position. Which roster would you rather have Dallas or Minnesota? Dallas?

746
00:40:16,600 --> 00:40:19,600
Speaker 1: I've seen in my years watching football, and this is

747
00:40:19,640 --> 00:40:22,080
Speaker 1: a very it was a very promising Vikings team with

748
00:40:22,080 --> 00:40:25,400
Speaker 1: a great roster. But I've seen better teams get uh

749
00:40:25,680 --> 00:40:28,560
Speaker 1: cut down by a quarter of devastating injury to a

750
00:40:28,640 --> 00:40:30,840
Speaker 1: quarterback or a running back or something like that, and

751
00:40:30,840 --> 00:40:33,360
Speaker 1: It's just that's why it's a lot on Adrian, and

752
00:40:33,480 --> 00:40:35,520
Speaker 1: he is going to have to be Adrian. He's gonna

753
00:40:35,520 --> 00:40:38,200
Speaker 1: have to be Adrian Peterson. Greg you're very down on

754
00:40:38,239 --> 00:40:41,440
Speaker 1: the Cowboys, Yet we were way way more down on

755
00:40:41,480 --> 00:40:43,600
Speaker 1: their defense two years ago when they won the division

756
00:40:43,600 --> 00:40:45,879
Speaker 1: than we are this year. Yeah, but I don't buy

757
00:40:45,920 --> 00:40:48,960
Speaker 1: I don't buy that argument. Just because they made it.

758
00:40:49,080 --> 00:40:51,359
Speaker 1: They made it by with a bad defense a couple

759
00:40:51,400 --> 00:40:52,879
Speaker 1: of years ago. It doesn't mean you're gonna be able

760
00:40:52,880 --> 00:40:55,239
Speaker 1: to do it again. They did it by holding the

761
00:40:55,280 --> 00:40:58,759
Speaker 1: ball and being as unbelievably efficient, like one of the

762
00:40:58,760 --> 00:41:01,360
Speaker 1: best third down team in NFL. I think their offense

763
00:41:01,400 --> 00:41:03,000
Speaker 1: can be even better this year than it was that

764
00:41:03,120 --> 00:41:07,160
Speaker 1: year without Romo, though for six games, not for sixteen games.

765
00:41:08,200 --> 00:41:12,480
Speaker 1: The only I'm a little surprised that for a team

766
00:41:12,520 --> 00:41:15,640
Speaker 1: of a t L finalist, the Tennessee Titans, that are

767
00:41:15,680 --> 00:41:18,960
Speaker 1: not higher, Um, I gave them respects, So I'm I'm

768
00:41:18,960 --> 00:41:22,120
Speaker 1: not the culprit here who I definitely buried the Titans.

769
00:41:22,320 --> 00:41:24,719
Speaker 1: I had that. I had that whole division pretty low.

770
00:41:24,840 --> 00:41:29,000
Speaker 1: I had them must have been somebody else as well. That. Yeah,

771
00:41:31,360 --> 00:41:33,319
Speaker 1: a lot of people had him high, you know, Dan,

772
00:41:33,400 --> 00:41:37,239
Speaker 1: you had him eleventh, Mark had him thirteen. West, You've

773
00:41:37,239 --> 00:41:40,440
Speaker 1: got him twelveth. So look that that middle of the

774
00:41:40,520 --> 00:41:43,080
Speaker 1: NFL is always hard to predict. I I always think

775
00:41:43,640 --> 00:41:45,480
Speaker 1: one of the most overrated things in football is there's

776
00:41:45,520 --> 00:41:47,080
Speaker 1: not a big difference between six and ten and ten

777
00:41:47,120 --> 00:41:49,360
Speaker 1: and six. I just don't believe there is. There's not

778
00:41:49,400 --> 00:41:51,200
Speaker 1: a big difference between the twelfth best team and the

779
00:41:52,000 --> 00:41:54,960
Speaker 1: best team. I kind of I'm more I get what

780
00:41:54,960 --> 00:41:56,560
Speaker 1: I mean. I'm more like, I think you get a

781
00:41:56,560 --> 00:41:58,960
Speaker 1: couple of breaks, and you get a schedule, and then

782
00:41:59,000 --> 00:42:01,200
Speaker 1: you make the narrative of Okay, I think eight and

783
00:42:01,239 --> 00:42:03,000
Speaker 1: eight and ten and six is almost a coin flip.

784
00:42:03,440 --> 00:42:05,759
Speaker 1: In the NFL. Six and ten teams kind of a

785
00:42:05,760 --> 00:42:07,600
Speaker 1: bad team. It's kind of a crummy team. There are

786
00:42:07,680 --> 00:42:09,759
Speaker 1: some bad teams that are lucky to get the six

787
00:42:09,760 --> 00:42:12,120
Speaker 1: and ten and there's some good teams who are unlucky

788
00:42:12,200 --> 00:42:14,759
Speaker 1: to be Only tenants made the playoffs last year. But

789
00:42:14,800 --> 00:42:17,279
Speaker 1: not every ten and six team has created the Saint.

790
00:42:17,520 --> 00:42:20,280
Speaker 1: That's true, the type of the Saints right at twenty,

791
00:42:20,320 --> 00:42:22,279
Speaker 1: which feels about right. I'm trying to see if there's

792
00:42:22,280 --> 00:42:25,880
Speaker 1: anything else that's surprising. The Jaguars ahead of the Titans

793
00:42:25,880 --> 00:42:28,400
Speaker 1: on our list. But that kind of that checks out me.

794
00:42:28,440 --> 00:42:30,080
Speaker 1: And you like the Saints, we haven't in the middle

795
00:42:30,080 --> 00:42:31,759
Speaker 1: of the pack. I think they'll be better this year.

796
00:42:31,800 --> 00:42:34,600
Speaker 1: I think they're nine win team. All right. Here we

797
00:42:34,600 --> 00:42:38,240
Speaker 1: go twenty one through seven, and then now we're starting

798
00:42:38,239 --> 00:42:40,359
Speaker 1: to get into the dregs a little bit. Now we're

799
00:42:40,360 --> 00:42:43,359
Speaker 1: getting into the These aren't terrible teams, but these are

800
00:42:43,400 --> 00:42:46,960
Speaker 1: teams that if things break poorly, they could be terrible.

801
00:42:47,640 --> 00:42:49,920
Speaker 1: But as we see them right now, they are not

802
00:42:50,040 --> 00:42:52,160
Speaker 1: really in the mix, but not dead in the water.

803
00:42:52,360 --> 00:42:55,720
Speaker 1: That's how I described this. Colts and Falcon's both tied

804
00:42:56,120 --> 00:43:00,120
Speaker 1: for twenty one, the Buffalo Bills at twenty three, the

805
00:43:00,160 --> 00:43:03,399
Speaker 1: New York Giants at twenty four, and the Tampa Bay

806
00:43:03,440 --> 00:43:09,280
Speaker 1: Bucks at Uh. What surprises you there, West anything. I

807
00:43:09,320 --> 00:43:11,520
Speaker 1: like the Falcons and Bucks more than other people do,

808
00:43:11,719 --> 00:43:14,480
Speaker 1: and I have the Falcons is a wild card team

809
00:43:14,520 --> 00:43:18,080
Speaker 1: this year. I like that last West, and I I

810
00:43:18,120 --> 00:43:20,279
Speaker 1: had the Falcons a lot higher than that too. I

811
00:43:20,280 --> 00:43:22,840
Speaker 1: had them seventeen. I had the Bucks twelve. I in

812
00:43:22,920 --> 00:43:25,480
Speaker 1: the end moved the Bucks up to my last wild

813
00:43:25,520 --> 00:43:29,640
Speaker 1: card spot. I like that division in general. I think

814
00:43:29,880 --> 00:43:33,600
Speaker 1: I don't know, are there spokesperson? Basically, I just think

815
00:43:33,600 --> 00:43:36,359
Speaker 1: they're fun to be on that hill. Jamis Winston, Well,

816
00:43:36,520 --> 00:43:38,319
Speaker 1: I've said it. I think he can make I think

817
00:43:38,320 --> 00:43:42,800
Speaker 1: he can make that leap. Do you think so? Do

818
00:43:42,880 --> 00:43:47,920
Speaker 1: you think he's gonna be you know, the top thirteen quarterbacks.

819
00:43:49,400 --> 00:43:53,120
Speaker 1: Definitely he's gonna bump out Tony Romo. Tony Romo might

820
00:43:53,120 --> 00:43:56,040
Speaker 1: not play well, somebody's gotta go. I'm saying like Tony

821
00:43:56,080 --> 00:43:58,480
Speaker 1: Romo's gonna get in another m R this weekend. Like

822
00:43:58,520 --> 00:44:01,919
Speaker 1: it wouldn't surprise if if you were saying, which would

823
00:44:01,960 --> 00:44:05,000
Speaker 1: you think it's more likely Tony Romo starts another playoff

824
00:44:05,080 --> 00:44:08,560
Speaker 1: game or Tony Roman doesn't play in the NFL again,

825
00:44:08,560 --> 00:44:11,600
Speaker 1: I'd probably take option to. Coming from the guy who

826
00:44:11,600 --> 00:44:13,719
Speaker 1: wrote a love letter to Tony Romo, I just think

827
00:44:13,800 --> 00:44:18,560
Speaker 1: he's got multiple broken back And that was that's a

828
00:44:18,680 --> 00:44:21,200
Speaker 1: dramatic change. What happened last week was not a good

829
00:44:22,120 --> 00:44:24,719
Speaker 1: I'm a huge Tony Romo fan, obviously, but that this

830
00:44:24,800 --> 00:44:27,480
Speaker 1: is a health issue. That was like it was like

831
00:44:27,520 --> 00:44:30,359
Speaker 1: a black cat walking under a ladder. What happened last

832
00:44:30,400 --> 00:44:33,200
Speaker 1: week in terms of uh looking ahead to Tony Romo's

833
00:44:33,239 --> 00:44:37,960
Speaker 1: future not good stuff. Um, all right, and the Giants

834
00:44:38,000 --> 00:44:41,080
Speaker 1: are there there is I mean, well, let's look at

835
00:44:41,080 --> 00:44:42,839
Speaker 1: it this way. They put a lot of money into

836
00:44:42,840 --> 00:44:45,239
Speaker 1: that defense, and I know we're loath to talk about.

837
00:44:45,280 --> 00:44:47,359
Speaker 1: The Giants in this room put a lot of mine

838
00:44:48,760 --> 00:44:53,000
Speaker 1: and you, my friend Christopher, are very high and bullish

839
00:44:53,000 --> 00:44:55,279
Speaker 1: on their offense. You think that Eli could have his

840
00:44:55,320 --> 00:44:58,080
Speaker 1: best season ever, like a forty touchdown type season. Odell

841
00:44:58,080 --> 00:45:02,040
Speaker 1: Beckham is unstoppable. The d ffens is even okay, and

842
00:45:02,160 --> 00:45:05,120
Speaker 1: not bottom eight defense. They're gonna win some games with

843
00:45:05,160 --> 00:45:08,960
Speaker 1: that offense, right, yeah? Is that how you build great defenses?

844
00:45:09,080 --> 00:45:11,400
Speaker 1: Just go out and signed for you? I got that

845
00:45:11,440 --> 00:45:14,040
Speaker 1: throw money at problems. I don't. I don't feel like

846
00:45:14,080 --> 00:45:15,960
Speaker 1: they fix their d. You're saying the defense will fall

847
00:45:15,960 --> 00:45:17,759
Speaker 1: in its face despite all this and that will hold

848
00:45:17,840 --> 00:45:19,799
Speaker 1: them back. Okay, I mean that's fair. Here's where the

849
00:45:19,840 --> 00:45:22,160
Speaker 1: parody thing does hold up for the NFL. I don't

850
00:45:22,200 --> 00:45:24,480
Speaker 1: see any teams in this group though, that would be

851
00:45:24,480 --> 00:45:26,680
Speaker 1: shocking if they make the playoffs. Really, I mean the

852
00:45:26,800 --> 00:45:28,920
Speaker 1: entire NFC s. I don't think you can say anyone

853
00:45:28,960 --> 00:45:31,000
Speaker 1: would be shocking to win it. Okay. I have the

854
00:45:31,000 --> 00:45:33,520
Speaker 1: Giants buried and it wouldn't be that surprising. Can I

855
00:45:33,840 --> 00:45:37,200
Speaker 1: amend your statement on my opinion of the Giants? Oh? Yeah,

856
00:45:37,239 --> 00:45:40,040
Speaker 1: go ahead. I feel like Odell Beckham will drive a

857
00:45:40,080 --> 00:45:43,440
Speaker 1: pretty good passing the offense, they'll have touchdowns. The running

858
00:45:43,440 --> 00:45:46,560
Speaker 1: game is terrible and their offensive line is horrible. I

859
00:45:47,160 --> 00:45:49,799
Speaker 1: just feel like Odell Beckham's great. That's basically how much

860
00:45:50,040 --> 00:45:52,320
Speaker 1: how I appreciate the Giants roster will be the record

861
00:45:52,320 --> 00:45:56,480
Speaker 1: this year seven and nine and hold that thought. You

862
00:45:56,640 --> 00:45:58,200
Speaker 1: hit on something good, Greg there, and I want to

863
00:45:58,200 --> 00:46:00,560
Speaker 1: get back to it once we finished. There a lot

864
00:46:00,600 --> 00:46:04,719
Speaker 1: of good points, greg um, Uh, let's finish the list now.

865
00:46:05,560 --> 00:46:07,640
Speaker 1: Now we're gonna move. This is gonna be twenty six

866
00:46:07,719 --> 00:46:10,480
Speaker 1: through thirty two. Now we're in the drugs. If if

867
00:46:10,520 --> 00:46:13,239
Speaker 1: any of these teams has a nice season, we blew

868
00:46:13,280 --> 00:46:17,040
Speaker 1: it because we all basically thought they were bad. Unless

869
00:46:17,040 --> 00:46:20,319
Speaker 1: there's Gregg and you could check our breakdown if there's

870
00:46:20,320 --> 00:46:23,680
Speaker 1: anyone that really differed with these But being way down

871
00:46:23,760 --> 00:46:26,600
Speaker 1: this low means the majority agreed big times that these

872
00:46:26,600 --> 00:46:28,760
Speaker 1: teams are gonna be bad. The Eagles at twenty six,

873
00:46:28,960 --> 00:46:32,280
Speaker 1: Colleen might have him higher, that's my guests. The Dolphins

874
00:46:32,280 --> 00:46:38,520
Speaker 1: at seven. The lions of the Rams at the Bears

875
00:46:38,560 --> 00:46:42,120
Speaker 1: at thirty the Browns at thirty one. Can you get

876
00:46:42,120 --> 00:46:45,560
Speaker 1: a little timpany here, there's a Timpani? How come I

877
00:46:45,560 --> 00:46:47,680
Speaker 1: can't get that right over? Said timpanty or I thought

878
00:46:47,680 --> 00:46:54,600
Speaker 1: it was Timpaniphemerale. The worst team in the NFL according

879
00:46:54,640 --> 00:47:00,359
Speaker 1: to our preseason Paul, the Niners. I think that's the pick.

880
00:47:01,960 --> 00:47:03,879
Speaker 1: I think the Browns are in the mix. They were

881
00:47:03,880 --> 00:47:07,000
Speaker 1: pretty consistently the bottom two teams. I thought about putting

882
00:47:07,000 --> 00:47:08,879
Speaker 1: the Bears that low too. What was your why did

883
00:47:08,880 --> 00:47:11,000
Speaker 1: you react? I had the Chargers in the a f

884
00:47:11,080 --> 00:47:14,160
Speaker 1: C championship games, so I certainly disagree with them being

885
00:47:14,200 --> 00:47:17,239
Speaker 1: in the dregs of the NFL. Chargers down there, I

886
00:47:17,280 --> 00:47:19,080
Speaker 1: was looking at the wrong list Dolphins, I said, are

887
00:47:19,080 --> 00:47:21,080
Speaker 1: you talking about the dolphinship? I think I also had

888
00:47:21,120 --> 00:47:25,000
Speaker 1: the Eagles winning the NFC East. I have them as

889
00:47:25,160 --> 00:47:27,719
Speaker 1: But the thing is my number for them didn't even

890
00:47:27,719 --> 00:47:29,200
Speaker 1: bring them up. I think I still had them as

891
00:47:29,200 --> 00:47:31,200
Speaker 1: the nineteenth best team in the league. I just someone's

892
00:47:31,200 --> 00:47:34,960
Speaker 1: got to win the division. Out of those seven dregs,

893
00:47:35,080 --> 00:47:37,799
Speaker 1: the Dolphins are the most likely to make us look bad.

894
00:47:37,960 --> 00:47:39,360
Speaker 1: I was gonna say that was the point I was

895
00:47:39,360 --> 00:47:42,960
Speaker 1: getting to, of those last ten eleven teams that we

896
00:47:43,040 --> 00:47:45,080
Speaker 1: went through, who is the most likely to make us

897
00:47:45,080 --> 00:47:49,200
Speaker 1: look bad? West? You say the Dolphins seven because I

898
00:47:49,239 --> 00:47:52,239
Speaker 1: think they have a bad secondary. Their offensive line could

899
00:47:52,320 --> 00:47:55,800
Speaker 1: be an issue, their defensive line could be overpriced and old.

900
00:47:56,840 --> 00:47:59,080
Speaker 1: But outside of the secondary, I think all that stuff

901
00:47:59,120 --> 00:48:01,920
Speaker 1: could be turned around. I think the Eagles can be average,

902
00:48:01,960 --> 00:48:03,760
Speaker 1: but I don't think even in the best case scenario,

903
00:48:03,840 --> 00:48:05,920
Speaker 1: they're not going to be great. You know what, what

904
00:48:05,920 --> 00:48:09,200
Speaker 1: were the Rams again? Twenty nine? Yeah, it wouldn't be surprised.

905
00:48:09,200 --> 00:48:10,839
Speaker 1: It wouldn't surprise me if they finished with the worst

906
00:48:10,840 --> 00:48:14,040
Speaker 1: record in the NFL. Really, you're talking about a case

907
00:48:14,120 --> 00:48:16,520
Speaker 1: Keenum lead team here. I'm just saying. And it's not

908
00:48:16,560 --> 00:48:18,239
Speaker 1: like the rookie is gonna come in and say, Okay,

909
00:48:18,280 --> 00:48:20,319
Speaker 1: that's I was gonna say here that Robert Quinn, Robert

910
00:48:20,400 --> 00:48:23,040
Speaker 1: Quinn win Defensive player of the year, right, right, Aaron

911
00:48:23,120 --> 00:48:25,400
Speaker 1: Donald should have one defensive player of the year or

912
00:48:25,400 --> 00:48:29,040
Speaker 1: could How good are they passing? Ogletree looks pretty good?

913
00:48:31,120 --> 00:48:34,080
Speaker 1: Just saying, good defensive coach, you got Todd Gurley, a

914
00:48:34,120 --> 00:48:37,800
Speaker 1: transformative type of running back. They win seven games usually anyways,

915
00:48:38,400 --> 00:48:40,920
Speaker 1: before Gurley really was in the mix that much. This

916
00:48:41,000 --> 00:48:42,920
Speaker 1: is the first time I have some respect for seven

917
00:48:42,920 --> 00:48:45,319
Speaker 1: win teams. Is that what I'm hearing? This is the

918
00:48:45,320 --> 00:48:48,680
Speaker 1: first time I've watched a team on hard knocks and

919
00:48:48,719 --> 00:48:51,879
Speaker 1: came out of the season thinking they'd be worse than

920
00:48:52,520 --> 00:48:55,520
Speaker 1: most people believe. That's a great point. I totally agree

921
00:48:55,560 --> 00:48:57,440
Speaker 1: with you. I always kind of think, oh, they're going

922
00:48:57,480 --> 00:48:59,720
Speaker 1: to be better now, and with the Rams, I've generally

923
00:48:59,719 --> 00:49:02,440
Speaker 1: thought and like what I agree with West because Keenom,

924
00:49:02,480 --> 00:49:04,160
Speaker 1: it's not gonna work out because we know who case

925
00:49:04,239 --> 00:49:06,759
Speaker 1: Keenom is and what they're gonna do. Even though they're

926
00:49:06,760 --> 00:49:09,080
Speaker 1: trying to be smart about this, they're gonna put this

927
00:49:09,160 --> 00:49:11,759
Speaker 1: kid in before week six or around there, or or

928
00:49:11,800 --> 00:49:15,120
Speaker 1: maybe after week three, you never know, and everything we

929
00:49:15,239 --> 00:49:17,360
Speaker 1: see is that he's gonna take a beating and be terrible.

930
00:49:17,600 --> 00:49:19,759
Speaker 1: I'm rooting for Jared Goff. I want him to be

931
00:49:19,800 --> 00:49:21,799
Speaker 1: the answer for the Rams. I hope it works out,

932
00:49:21,880 --> 00:49:24,239
Speaker 1: but I don't think that two thousand sixteen is the

933
00:49:24,320 --> 00:49:26,480
Speaker 1: Rams season, right. And then the hope I think for

934
00:49:26,560 --> 00:49:29,560
Speaker 1: them is and their talent has never really matched up

935
00:49:29,560 --> 00:49:31,600
Speaker 1: with great numbers, and even their hope is that front

936
00:49:31,600 --> 00:49:33,640
Speaker 1: seven is one of the best friend sevens because on

937
00:49:33,680 --> 00:49:37,200
Speaker 1: paper it absolutely is, and that Todd Gurley is young

938
00:49:37,480 --> 00:49:43,160
Speaker 1: career Adrian Peterson, that he's that dominant, that's their hope.

939
00:49:43,440 --> 00:49:45,239
Speaker 1: And then even then you probably only win in nine

940
00:49:45,280 --> 00:49:49,439
Speaker 1: games of the bottom Even then you're winning seven since

941
00:49:49,480 --> 00:49:52,080
Speaker 1: win to the Rams win more than seven games. I

942
00:49:52,120 --> 00:49:55,919
Speaker 1: will I will say the Bears here, John Fox. Teams

943
00:49:55,960 --> 00:49:59,439
Speaker 1: are always better than year two historically. Yeah, Uh, plaid

944
00:49:59,520 --> 00:50:02,880
Speaker 1: well played above their weight last year. Nobody likes Jay Cutler,

945
00:50:03,120 --> 00:50:06,240
Speaker 1: but he's not the worst quarterback in the league. Uh,

946
00:50:06,360 --> 00:50:08,600
Speaker 1: they get and they have Kevin White back. There is

947
00:50:08,600 --> 00:50:10,920
Speaker 1: a chance that they surprised. I was gonna say, of

948
00:50:11,000 --> 00:50:14,120
Speaker 1: the bottom three teams, who's the most likely to surprise

949
00:50:14,239 --> 00:50:16,719
Speaker 1: us and win eight or nine games? The bottom three? Yeah,

950
00:50:16,719 --> 00:50:19,319
Speaker 1: I would definitely take the Bears of that three. Of

951
00:50:19,360 --> 00:50:22,200
Speaker 1: that three, but you're comparing them to the Niners. I'd

952
00:50:22,239 --> 00:50:25,520
Speaker 1: even go bottom five. I think group the Lions and Rams,

953
00:50:25,520 --> 00:50:27,920
Speaker 1: and I would give the Lions. I think with the Bears,

954
00:50:27,960 --> 00:50:29,640
Speaker 1: we might be a little guilty of putting way too

955
00:50:29,719 --> 00:50:32,359
Speaker 1: much stock in the preseason. Yea, and they looked really

956
00:50:32,400 --> 00:50:36,200
Speaker 1: bad in the preseason. Maybe the fact that dural loglins

957
00:50:36,920 --> 00:50:42,839
Speaker 1: involved during even that's the pronunciation, by the way, blue Logans.

958
00:50:43,000 --> 00:50:45,080
Speaker 1: Not everyone could even say his name. You have to

959
00:50:45,120 --> 00:50:48,040
Speaker 1: have a certain ability with your vocal cords and tongue.

960
00:50:48,239 --> 00:50:50,480
Speaker 1: You want to try, you're not one of them. Listen,

961
00:50:53,960 --> 00:50:56,560
Speaker 1: you can't do it. I think it's dole logans. I

962
00:50:56,640 --> 00:50:59,239
Speaker 1: can't do that. That's how most people. I spent time

963
00:50:59,280 --> 00:51:01,400
Speaker 1: in the South, so I have an advantaged there. He

964
00:51:01,600 --> 00:51:04,320
Speaker 1: was not yeah, but he was born in another planet,

965
00:51:04,840 --> 00:51:08,719
Speaker 1: was born on Crypton this offensive coordinator Crypton now an

966
00:51:08,719 --> 00:51:13,320
Speaker 1: actual planet. So the band is probably gonna suck, but

967
00:51:13,360 --> 00:51:15,120
Speaker 1: they could, you know, surprise people. That's what I think.

968
00:51:15,200 --> 00:51:17,239
Speaker 1: Do you think the Lions could be that team? All?

969
00:51:17,320 --> 00:51:21,279
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't, but I wouldn't blame Lions fans.

970
00:51:21,280 --> 00:51:22,759
Speaker 1: And that's a good thing about the NFL. And like

971
00:51:22,840 --> 00:51:24,480
Speaker 1: I said, not a big difference between six and ten

972
00:51:24,560 --> 00:51:27,920
Speaker 1: and ten if everything goes absolutely right for the Lions,

973
00:51:28,200 --> 00:51:30,439
Speaker 1: Like I can see their fans squinting at that roster

974
00:51:30,520 --> 00:51:33,319
Speaker 1: and making the case that they win ten games. It's

975
00:51:33,360 --> 00:51:38,040
Speaker 1: not that crazy. Crazier things happen every year there we go,

976
00:51:38,160 --> 00:51:41,359
Speaker 1: that's our don't buy that preseason power Pull after week

977
00:51:41,440 --> 00:51:43,920
Speaker 1: four and Greg Rosdall is going to write a banger

978
00:51:44,080 --> 00:51:48,640
Speaker 1: off this I believe will update this at week four

979
00:51:48,760 --> 00:51:50,640
Speaker 1: and then at the season's midway point, and then we'll

980
00:51:50,680 --> 00:51:54,880
Speaker 1: probably disappear until next August or September. But there you go.

981
00:51:55,440 --> 00:51:58,560
Speaker 1: Good show, guys, Thanks for Connie Fox for dropping by.

982
00:51:58,680 --> 00:52:02,759
Speaker 1: We'll be back on Tuesday. Uh. We have just one

983
00:52:02,840 --> 00:52:06,879
Speaker 1: more full two shows before the sun next Sunday's game,

984
00:52:06,920 --> 00:52:09,560
Speaker 1: so we'll have a show on Tuesday. Well, we'll talk

985
00:52:09,560 --> 00:52:12,799
Speaker 1: about our sandwich props. Uh, and then we'll have our

986
00:52:12,880 --> 00:52:17,880
Speaker 1: big kickoff preview show on Thursday with reaction to Thursday

987
00:52:18,000 --> 00:52:21,200
Speaker 1: night opener. So it really goes up on most early

988
00:52:21,320 --> 00:52:24,880
Speaker 1: Friday morning on the East Coast. Yeah, so Panthers and

989
00:52:25,239 --> 00:52:27,960
Speaker 1: Broncos play on Thursday night. We'll have all the preview,

990
00:52:28,239 --> 00:52:30,080
Speaker 1: then we'll come back to the studio after the game,

991
00:52:30,360 --> 00:52:32,239
Speaker 1: talk about that game, and then send it out to

992
00:52:32,320 --> 00:52:36,200
Speaker 1: the masses. Football's back, baby, or just about until then.

993
00:52:41,640 --> 00:52:46,880
Speaker 1: Stan Janzas signing off for the Mailman, Connie Fox, the

994
00:52:47,000 --> 00:52:50,520
Speaker 1: Boss and the items are behind the Glass were allowed

995
00:52:50,600 --> 00:52:50,880
Speaker 1: games