WEBVTT - Cowboys Break: Who Takes Control 0:00:04.840 --> 0:00:07.400 The following Here's a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 0:00:07.400 --> 0:00:18.280 and the Dallas Cowboys Football clubs. Are you ready for 0:00:18.320 --> 0:00:22.000 a break? Yes? Are you ready for a break? Absolutely? 0:00:22.120 --> 0:00:26.320 Ready for a break? Yeah, And so much for that. 0:00:26.560 --> 0:00:30.680 It's time for The Break on Dallas Cowboys dot Com. 0:00:30.800 --> 0:00:36.800 Were with Nick Eatman, David Hellman, and bar Garcia and 0:00:37.159 --> 0:00:43.920 Derek Eagleton. It's Thursday, November eighteenth, twenty twenty one, Season seventeen, 0:00:43.960 --> 0:00:46.360 episode number sixty four. Welcome to the latest edition of 0:00:46.400 --> 0:00:49.680 The Break, live from the SWBC Mortgage Studios at the Star. 0:00:49.840 --> 0:00:53.360 Nick sixty four. Wow, I'm gonna have to tell a story. 0:00:53.600 --> 0:00:56.560 Oh okay, okay, that's a new thing for me. Yeah, 0:00:56.560 --> 0:00:58.920 I'm gonna tell a story with this. So, I mean, 0:00:58.960 --> 0:01:01.720 it's like two thousand and twelve, maybe eleven to them 0:01:01.760 --> 0:01:05.240 twelve where in a training camp in ox Narn't. So 0:01:05.280 --> 0:01:07.880 we're sitting there practice, you know, Jason Garrett likes to 0:01:07.920 --> 0:01:11.600 have a little music going. Todd Archer, Oh god, who's 0:01:11.680 --> 0:01:14.640 next to me? We're just watching practice and then you know, 0:01:14.640 --> 0:01:19.000 we're out in California and they're playing California knows how 0:01:19.200 --> 0:01:21.959 to party, right, So I don't know if I did this, 0:01:22.080 --> 0:01:23.840 or Todd did this. I think I would do this, 0:01:23.920 --> 0:01:26.080 but it doesn't seem like a Todd kind of it doesn't. 0:01:26.120 --> 0:01:28.199 But I think he did. I might have just taken 0:01:28.240 --> 0:01:30.760 it to the next verse or two. So we're just 0:01:30.800 --> 0:01:34.399 sitting there practice and he just named Terrey Holland as 0:01:34.480 --> 0:01:37.800 the starter. So practice is going on, you know, and 0:01:37.840 --> 0:01:40.360 they got the music going and one of us just said, 0:01:42.040 --> 0:01:46.520 Terrey Holland is now start. Oh, this is a clean version. 0:01:46.959 --> 0:01:50.920 Many Holland is now the start. You know in the 0:01:51.080 --> 0:01:56.559 city city of oxnarn't. He keeps on blocking. He keeps 0:01:56.560 --> 0:01:58.320 on blocking. It was funny. It was a lot of 0:01:58.360 --> 0:02:00.280 funnier at the time. You gonna do those songs block 0:02:00.520 --> 0:02:07.520 block it entree this week there you goo, Yeah, like 0:02:07.960 --> 0:02:10.320 it was funny. It's funny. A lot of people in 0:02:10.400 --> 0:02:12.840 the every year now you talk to different people that 0:02:12.919 --> 0:02:15.440 are still there covering. They still when that song comes on, 0:02:15.520 --> 0:02:18.280 everyone's like, Monterrey Holland. Yeah, he was awesome. He was 0:02:18.320 --> 0:02:20.600 a cool dude, and you know, he was just a starter. 0:02:20.960 --> 0:02:23.280 There's different versions of it, but the version heard a 0:02:23.280 --> 0:02:26.960 different version you heard version, But okay, that's you know, 0:02:27.000 --> 0:02:29.600 there's always a radio edit and then there's a different version. 0:02:29.600 --> 0:02:32.560 It's a good bliss. That's good point another I got 0:02:32.600 --> 0:02:35.680 another story about him. Sure, why not? I took my 0:02:36.000 --> 0:02:38.239 little girl to Disney on ice one year, like a 0:02:38.400 --> 0:02:43.760 hundred dollars worth of Disney gear, you know, Cinderella sword 0:02:43.840 --> 0:02:46.960 and wand and all this stuff. Twenty dollars tone whatever 0:02:47.040 --> 0:02:50.920 it was. Rapunzel had a wig. Yeah, okay, And I 0:02:51.040 --> 0:02:53.560 sent a picture. You took a picture since my momma 0:02:53.840 --> 0:02:57.040 no response. Two hours finally realized I actually sent it 0:02:57.080 --> 0:02:59.919 to Monterrey Holland said on my mom I don't even 0:02:59.919 --> 0:03:02.320 know why I had a number. Yeah, he never responded 0:03:02.320 --> 0:03:06.240 to that. I don't know anyways, love Montre Holland. He 0:03:06.360 --> 0:03:09.600 keeps on blocking. Nick keeps yesterday to tell me this, 0:03:09.760 --> 0:03:13.240 and I started thinking this song. It was in my head. Everybody, Yeah, 0:03:13.280 --> 0:03:17.000 because everybody knows that's like Montrey Holland. Yeah, so that's 0:03:17.000 --> 0:03:19.720 been the song. And I do apologize for the people 0:03:19.720 --> 0:03:22.280 that I didn't pick. Larry Cole yesterday sixty three. Wow, 0:03:22.560 --> 0:03:23.840 did you get a lot of those? It did a 0:03:23.919 --> 0:03:26.720 little bit. Yeah, he actually knocked on my door one time. 0:03:26.760 --> 0:03:29.160 Sixty three Larry Cole comes to my house weird. It 0:03:29.320 --> 0:03:31.200 was kind of weird. But yeah, see you want to 0:03:31.240 --> 0:03:33.880 tell me why you're always having weird runnings with street. 0:03:33.919 --> 0:03:37.160 But like Nick's always like like he's like, yeah, I 0:03:37.200 --> 0:03:39.280 almost hit that guy with my car. He had almost 0:03:39.360 --> 0:03:41.000 hit Kellen More in the car. And there's no doubt 0:03:41.240 --> 0:03:44.360 I was driving. He was running and you know, just 0:03:44.360 --> 0:03:46.920 one of the weird things right right out here, right 0:03:46.920 --> 0:03:48.360 out at the start, he was running. I don't know 0:03:48.360 --> 0:03:50.160 why I can't just run over here, but he was 0:03:50.280 --> 0:03:53.840 running in the street and in the street, well in 0:03:53.880 --> 0:03:58.200 the sidewalk. Yeah, but the driveway sidewalk runs is one 0:03:58.200 --> 0:04:00.760 of my biggest fears in life too. You know, like 0:04:00.800 --> 0:04:03.080 when you're trying to turn like left onto a street 0:04:03.080 --> 0:04:05.040 and you're like looking, make sure you're clear here, You're clear. 0:04:05.080 --> 0:04:08.320 It's always the pedestrian that's like running, you know, like 0:04:08.440 --> 0:04:10.760 you or somebody like you know, you always have the dollars. 0:04:10.800 --> 0:04:12.520 It's almost happened to me before you right, you know, 0:04:12.560 --> 0:04:14.560 because you're not thinking about them, You're thinking of the street, 0:04:14.560 --> 0:04:16.640 you know. And so I kind of did that and 0:04:16.800 --> 0:04:18.440 this guy I was like, it looks like Kellen Moore, 0:04:18.520 --> 0:04:20.599 So I mean almost it Kellen could have affected the 0:04:20.600 --> 0:04:23.520 whole number one offense in the league. So who writes 0:04:23.560 --> 0:04:28.640 that article? Nick I don't work here, weren't care Dallas 0:04:28.680 --> 0:04:32.400 Cowboys dot Com responsible for offener writer. I might email 0:04:32.440 --> 0:04:33.800 you and be like, look, I know this is a 0:04:33.800 --> 0:04:36.360 tough time, but I ain't writing this. Come on, help 0:04:36.400 --> 0:04:38.920 me out as as an outgoing present to us. Yeah, 0:04:39.760 --> 0:04:41.240 why did you take care of this one? All right? 0:04:41.520 --> 0:04:44.440 Then they're contributing writer then Nicky, Yeah, right there you go. 0:04:44.680 --> 0:04:47.119 All right, um, let's let's jump in and get some 0:04:47.120 --> 0:04:49.760 some cowboys talk going here. We got in the second segment, 0:04:49.800 --> 0:04:51.279 as we do all the time. We got Bucky brook 0:04:51.360 --> 0:04:54.359 Joint Rocky Brooks joining us. We'll talk about the Kansas 0:04:54.400 --> 0:04:57.359 City defense versus the Cowboys offense during that segment. But 0:04:57.440 --> 0:05:01.080 let's first start with some injuries. Are like, it's still 0:05:01.120 --> 0:05:03.640 in your head? Is in there? This is why you 0:05:03.680 --> 0:05:06.880 wanted to have some music like the music licensing. Obviously 0:05:06.960 --> 0:05:11.040 we got some issues. But I apologize to Tom Rafferty, 0:05:11.240 --> 0:05:14.279 the former center for the years. He puts a really 0:05:14.320 --> 0:05:16.560 good player. There's an always an answer. But to me, 0:05:16.800 --> 0:05:20.000 montre Holland was got Holland. All right, let's get a 0:05:20.040 --> 0:05:23.400 catch up on Tyren Smith. Where is he? What's he doing? 0:05:23.440 --> 0:05:26.000 It's good? He had a limited practice yesterday. He's gonna 0:05:26.000 --> 0:05:28.839 do the same thing today. Um, like I said yesterday, 0:05:28.839 --> 0:05:30.919 Like Mike McCarthy's not gonna tell us how much he 0:05:30.960 --> 0:05:35.119 does during team but the arrow is pointing up it is, Um, 0:05:35.240 --> 0:05:39.039 but I didn't even do that on purpose. Good job. Um, 0:05:39.680 --> 0:05:43.080 today's the padded day. Today's Mike said it today himself. 0:05:43.120 --> 0:05:46.000 It's the heavy lifting day. So if he has a 0:05:46.000 --> 0:05:48.520 good day today, that'll be a really good indicator. And 0:05:48.680 --> 0:05:51.680 I I think that he will. You think that he will? 0:05:51.680 --> 0:05:53.120 You think I think he's going to play in this game. 0:05:53.160 --> 0:05:56.280 I already said that this week. Okay, yeah, cool. Let's 0:05:56.320 --> 0:06:00.480 talk about Greg Zerline. He's actually returning from COVID today. Um, 0:06:00.520 --> 0:06:01.840 what do you think the Cowboys or what do you 0:06:01.839 --> 0:06:05.120 think the Cowboys should do with Liam hava La? Who 0:06:06.360 --> 0:06:08.760 is he on the practice He moved? He moved back 0:06:08.800 --> 0:06:12.400 to keep him, keep him keep on practice? Not you 0:06:12.480 --> 0:06:16.479 got I hate to sound glib, but there's sixteen spots 0:06:16.480 --> 0:06:19.000 like you don't need. You don't need every guy on 0:06:19.040 --> 0:06:22.880 the practice squad to like be contribute, especially the team's 0:06:23.240 --> 0:06:26.400 fairly healthy, right, Now, if you saw the practice report yesterday, 0:06:26.839 --> 0:06:28.520 Mike was joking about that at the end of his 0:06:28.560 --> 0:06:31.279 press conference. It's Tyran and then everybody else is a 0:06:31.320 --> 0:06:33.760 full participate. So I know they've got a few guys 0:06:33.760 --> 0:06:36.520 on IR, but they're not very banged up in terms 0:06:36.560 --> 0:06:38.840 of the guys that are available. So yeah, keep an 0:06:38.839 --> 0:06:41.039 extra kicker on the practice squad. Why not? Yes, you 0:06:41.080 --> 0:06:43.120 have a big practice squad. Plus you have a guy. 0:06:43.360 --> 0:06:45.359 You have an offensive lineman that doesn't take up a 0:06:45.400 --> 0:06:50.760 spot in Isaac number sixty? How did I do with that? 0:06:51.279 --> 0:06:55.400 This is fine? Is like if people like to really 0:06:55.440 --> 0:06:59.360 emphasize certain things, which I thought, that's what the that's 0:06:59.400 --> 0:07:03.240 what the accent men. Yeah, at least Isaac A. Larkin 0:07:03.880 --> 0:07:07.120 who's painfully white. Okay, that's what we're dealing with here. 0:07:07.240 --> 0:07:09.640 I'm sure somebody is said that. Um, I did want 0:07:09.640 --> 0:07:11.000 to talk a little bit. Let's go back a little 0:07:11.000 --> 0:07:13.280 bit to the offensive line. And I'm gonna ask Bucky 0:07:13.360 --> 0:07:15.320 about this, but but I want to get you guys's 0:07:15.360 --> 0:07:18.440 opinion on it as well. Um, this week, Dallas is 0:07:18.440 --> 0:07:22.040 facing some defensive tackles that that are pretty good. You 0:07:22.160 --> 0:07:24.800 got Chris Jones, you got Jarren Reid. They moved Chris 0:07:24.840 --> 0:07:27.360 Jones around a bit, but both those guys can line 0:07:27.440 --> 0:07:30.600 up in the middle. They're right now leading Kansas City 0:07:30.600 --> 0:07:33.720 and quarterback kits with nine and eight. How concerned are 0:07:33.720 --> 0:07:36.400 you with that matchup, particularly with the interior part of 0:07:36.400 --> 0:07:39.000 this offensive line? Obviously we're not talking about Zach Martin, 0:07:39.200 --> 0:07:42.280 We're talking about Connor Williams, We're talking about Tyler Beatish. 0:07:42.480 --> 0:07:45.320 How concerned are you with that matchup and those guys 0:07:45.360 --> 0:07:47.560 being able to get that penetration up the middle that 0:07:47.600 --> 0:07:50.960 can sometimes create some real problems for quarterbacks? Eight? Eight 0:07:51.040 --> 0:07:56.800 at ten concerned level? Okay, I mean we have to 0:07:56.960 --> 0:07:59.080 explain why. Well, this is a show where we do that. 0:07:59.120 --> 0:08:01.120 So yeah, well, I mean hasn't been watching, I mean, 0:08:01.160 --> 0:08:03.600 who hasn't seen I mean it's been holding fifty two. 0:08:03.720 --> 0:08:06.920 I mean it's taking over holding seventy five. Back in 0:08:06.960 --> 0:08:09.040 the eighties when Philpots Derek used to do it, used 0:08:09.040 --> 0:08:11.800 to be holding number seventy five every time they played 0:08:11.800 --> 0:08:15.160 the Giants he was. Now it's holding fifty two. So 0:08:16.040 --> 0:08:18.560 let's you know. Yeah, I mean either either you move 0:08:18.680 --> 0:08:21.080 li Ale Colums over to guard, or if you don't 0:08:21.120 --> 0:08:23.080 do it, you just hold your breath and hopefully he 0:08:23.120 --> 0:08:25.920 didn't hold Chris Jones all game. I didn't want to 0:08:25.960 --> 0:08:27.920 ask you guys this the other day, but you guys 0:08:28.000 --> 0:08:30.000 kept talking and talking, so I just never did. I 0:08:30.320 --> 0:08:34.439 sat hearing in silence, but I did have the question 0:08:34.559 --> 0:08:37.800 in my head. We were talking about the line and 0:08:37.920 --> 0:08:41.600 we were talking about Connor, and it just makes me wondering. 0:08:41.679 --> 0:08:45.120 I know this coaching staff is not necessarily afraid to 0:08:45.240 --> 0:08:48.120 make changes. We've seen it happen, but it makes me 0:08:48.240 --> 0:08:51.800 wonder until as long as they're winning games, and as 0:08:51.880 --> 0:08:55.040 long as like you don't get someone hitting dagged really 0:08:55.120 --> 0:08:57.440 hard and you're like, okay, that's it, you're out put 0:08:57.520 --> 0:09:02.000 someone else in to what extent? Or like, what does 0:09:02.080 --> 0:09:04.439 it need to really take for them to make a 0:09:04.559 --> 0:09:07.120 move like that and put someone else instead of Carner 0:09:07.240 --> 0:09:11.000 Williams Or do they just keep like, okay, we'll take 0:09:11.080 --> 0:09:15.240 on whatever penalties and okay, not every pocket is going 0:09:15.280 --> 0:09:18.040 to be completely clean for that you might have to 0:09:18.120 --> 0:09:20.120 get out and go the other way and things like that. 0:09:20.559 --> 0:09:24.800 But as long as they're winning, it's like, okay, when 0:09:24.920 --> 0:09:27.920 when do we fix this, or if if they do 0:09:28.120 --> 0:09:30.360 want to, I think I think when you have a 0:09:30.400 --> 0:09:33.160 better option if when you have a better option, and 0:09:33.280 --> 0:09:35.839 I don't know if if if they believe like O'Collins, 0:09:35.880 --> 0:09:37.640 moving to guard where he hasn't done it in five 0:09:37.760 --> 0:09:40.800 or six years is a better option. I mean, and 0:09:40.920 --> 0:09:42.720 I don't think they're going to do that until Tyrn 0:09:42.800 --> 0:09:46.839 Smith is ready to go and available, you know, or 0:09:47.040 --> 0:09:49.000 if they do that at all. Rob made a good 0:09:49.000 --> 0:09:51.440 point there, But when do you just say, hey, we're 0:09:51.520 --> 0:09:54.440 good here on left tackle. Ever, I don't think you will. 0:09:54.600 --> 0:09:57.480 I think you have to have three good tackles. Now. 0:09:57.559 --> 0:10:00.480 If Tye and Seky factored back into this, that be different. 0:10:00.520 --> 0:10:02.040 But I don't know if he does right now. So 0:10:02.559 --> 0:10:04.560 I think that they feel like they've got three tackles, 0:10:04.559 --> 0:10:07.000 and I think they I mean, you're living in the 0:10:07.080 --> 0:10:08.959 harsh reality of the NFL. I was talking about this 0:10:09.080 --> 0:10:14.120 earlier today. You don't. It's hard to have five offensive 0:10:14.160 --> 0:10:16.040 linemen that you feel great about, all of them in 0:10:16.120 --> 0:10:19.959 this league. The Cowboys were very fortunate that in fourteen 0:10:20.000 --> 0:10:23.640 and sixteen they really had that, Like they great wall 0:10:23.720 --> 0:10:25.640 and all that stuff. It's hard to pull off. And 0:10:25.840 --> 0:10:28.960 so I mean, if they want to give Connor mc 0:10:29.040 --> 0:10:31.240 govern a shot, I'm fine with that. Honestly, it doesn't 0:10:31.280 --> 0:10:34.640 bother me, but they see these practices, they might not 0:10:34.880 --> 0:10:38.439 feel that he's up to it. And I can't just 0:10:38.640 --> 0:10:41.240 hammer the table and be like, you're definitely making a mistake. 0:10:41.360 --> 0:10:43.760 Like odds are, that's probably going to be the weak 0:10:43.840 --> 0:10:45.839 link on your offensive line no matter what you do. 0:10:46.120 --> 0:10:49.599 And every team in the league can probably relate to 0:10:49.679 --> 0:10:52.400 that to some degree where it's like, yeah, our pick 0:10:52.480 --> 0:10:54.800 a position. For some teams it's right tackle. They're like, yeah, 0:10:54.840 --> 0:10:56.480 it's a mess over there, right, what are you gonna do? 0:10:57.080 --> 0:10:59.400 There's been more talk, I think over the last several 0:10:59.480 --> 0:11:03.280 weeks on Connor Williams and his issues, and not so 0:11:03.400 --> 0:11:07.680 much that I've really heard or are seen regarding Tyler Biottish. 0:11:07.720 --> 0:11:10.120 Has he played better or is it just a situation 0:11:10.160 --> 0:11:13.000 where Connor's really a problem and so sometimes the problem 0:11:13.080 --> 0:11:15.839 gets all the attention when Tyler's having his issues too, 0:11:15.920 --> 0:11:19.320 but everybody's just focused on Connor. I think he's played better. 0:11:19.480 --> 0:11:22.079 I think Tyler Biottish has cleaned up his game, and 0:11:22.160 --> 0:11:25.880 that's which I'm not hating on us. It's our job. 0:11:26.000 --> 0:11:28.240 But like when you're talking about this every day and 0:11:28.360 --> 0:11:30.360 reacting to each and every game, That's why I always 0:11:30.360 --> 0:11:33.599 say like a season is a living, breathing thing, like 0:11:33.720 --> 0:11:36.200 guys are gonna get better, Guys are gonna go through slumps, 0:11:36.400 --> 0:11:38.719 units are gonna get hurt. It's all part of it. 0:11:38.960 --> 0:11:42.520 But I really think Tyler Biottish has played well this 0:11:42.800 --> 0:11:45.679 last month or so. And remember back when everybody was 0:11:45.720 --> 0:11:49.160 worried about him, it was, well, this guy's only started 0:11:49.440 --> 0:11:51.800 ten or twelve times in the league. You know, he's 0:11:51.800 --> 0:11:54.720 still learning how to do this stuff. And so it's 0:11:54.800 --> 0:11:58.640 encouraging to think that. And I'm not saying he's Travis Frederick, 0:11:58.679 --> 0:12:02.280 but I think he has risen up to a consistent 0:12:02.440 --> 0:12:04.760 level of play over this last month or so. The 0:12:04.880 --> 0:12:07.760 way you ask the question should tell you enough, because 0:12:07.800 --> 0:12:11.760 it's like we're he's not doing anything that really stands out, 0:12:11.880 --> 0:12:14.400 or you don't see Dak just like kind of almost 0:12:14.480 --> 0:12:18.079 fumbling the ball right there with the snap. So the 0:12:18.240 --> 0:12:21.360 fact that we're not talking about is should be enough 0:12:21.440 --> 0:12:24.400 for you to say, Okay, he's handling the job good enough. 0:12:24.520 --> 0:12:25.920 And I also think it has a lot to do 0:12:26.120 --> 0:12:29.240 with his matchups. Right It's it's gonna be moments when 0:12:29.280 --> 0:12:32.079 he's having to play a Vita via type player, a 0:12:32.200 --> 0:12:35.000 guy that's really strong, that's gonna line up on the nose, 0:12:35.480 --> 0:12:37.199 and because a lot of times the center is really 0:12:37.280 --> 0:12:38.920 kind of helping out either to the left or the 0:12:39.000 --> 0:12:41.160 right side. It's when you run up against that team, 0:12:41.520 --> 0:12:43.559 you know where you're gonna line up a nose on 0:12:43.720 --> 0:12:45.760 the center, and he's gonna go at the center and 0:12:46.200 --> 0:12:48.800 a strong one. I think that we've seen where Tyler 0:12:48.840 --> 0:12:51.440 typically has his issues. I will say this, going back 0:12:51.480 --> 0:12:54.840 to your original question, I think Chris Jones is one 0:12:54.880 --> 0:12:57.800 of the most underrated players in the I ral. I 0:12:58.000 --> 0:13:01.200 was talking to somebody of friend of mine last night 0:13:01.280 --> 0:13:04.480 about how, of all, for all the credit that Chase 0:13:04.600 --> 0:13:07.120 Young and Montes Sweat have gotten over the years, Jonathan 0:13:07.160 --> 0:13:10.280 Allen wrecked Tampa Bay's game plan. That's another guy that 0:13:10.360 --> 0:13:12.319 we're familiar with who has the potential to do that 0:13:12.400 --> 0:13:15.719 type of stuff. And yeah, and I want to ask 0:13:15.760 --> 0:13:17.480 Bucky about this. I'm not going to pretend to know, 0:13:17.640 --> 0:13:20.680 but it seems like a storyline up there is Jones 0:13:20.720 --> 0:13:22.800 has been bouncing around a little bit more like they've 0:13:22.800 --> 0:13:24.920 been playing it at him and end more often than 0:13:25.000 --> 0:13:28.480 they have in the past. And so I wonder, what 0:13:28.640 --> 0:13:30.520 do you do in this matchup. I feel I would 0:13:30.559 --> 0:13:33.480 want him playing against Connor and Tyler. Yeah, absolutely if 0:13:33.480 --> 0:13:34.720 I were the chief, so I would be like, get 0:13:34.800 --> 0:13:36.880 in there and wreck that. Between him and Read, I 0:13:36.920 --> 0:13:39.240 would be like, those are your targets. Goal attack them 0:13:39.320 --> 0:13:42.360 right here, you know. And and yeah, he's he's scary. 0:13:42.480 --> 0:13:45.199 I mean he I don't want to say he won 0:13:45.320 --> 0:13:48.280 them that Super Bowl because they have mahomes, but like 0:13:48.440 --> 0:13:51.760 he made some game changing plays in that game. He 0:13:52.240 --> 0:13:54.280 is a phenomenal player. Yeah, all right, we're gonna take 0:13:54.280 --> 0:13:55.680 our first break. We come back, We'll be jown by 0:13:55.720 --> 0:13:58.560 Bucky Brooks of NFL Network. We'll talk Casey defensive versus 0:13:58.880 --> 0:14:00.520 Dallas offense. 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We 0:16:47.760 --> 0:16:50.800 are joined right now by Bucky Brooks of NFL Network. 0:16:50.840 --> 0:16:53.840 We're gonna talk a little Kansas City defense versus the 0:16:53.960 --> 0:16:57.000 Dallas offense today, and Bucky, I was looking at the 0:16:57.080 --> 0:16:59.880 numbers on this defense right now. They are ranked twenty 0:17:00.040 --> 0:17:03.560 six in rushing yards per temp, giving up four point 0:17:03.640 --> 0:17:07.920 six yards per temp, and thirtieth in net passing yards 0:17:07.960 --> 0:17:11.080 per temp giving up seven point four yards. Obviously not great. 0:17:11.920 --> 0:17:14.280 Is there one thing that is more of an opportunity 0:17:14.320 --> 0:17:19.600 for Dallas in the other run versus past, Well, I mean, 0:17:19.640 --> 0:17:21.280 I think you got to prove both areas. I think 0:17:21.320 --> 0:17:23.520 if the Dallas Cowboys, you have to come into the 0:17:23.560 --> 0:17:25.920 game thinking that you have to run it. Not only 0:17:26.040 --> 0:17:28.680 running it necessarily for yards because you feel good about 0:17:28.800 --> 0:17:30.920 ze Kelley and Tony Pollard. But I think this is 0:17:30.960 --> 0:17:33.600 a game where you want to control the tempo. In 0:17:33.600 --> 0:17:35.199 the investor where you can join the temple is the run, 0:17:35.280 --> 0:17:38.960 the ball drained the clock, not explode your defense to 0:17:39.040 --> 0:17:41.280 a ton of offensive players from the Kannas City Chiefs. 0:17:41.720 --> 0:17:44.040 I think the running game is curly could that strategy 0:17:44.080 --> 0:17:46.480 because you don't necessarily want this to be a shootout 0:17:46.720 --> 0:17:50.720 against kann City Chiefs. That seems odd to me. Just 0:17:51.040 --> 0:17:53.440 when you when you're considering the number one scoring offense 0:17:53.520 --> 0:17:56.560 in the league, the number one offense total yards in 0:17:56.640 --> 0:17:59.840 the league. Um, you know what, why why would you say? 0:18:00.200 --> 0:18:02.720 Why wouldn't you think Kansas City wouldn't want to do 0:18:02.800 --> 0:18:04.760 the same. On the other end, are you saying Kansas 0:18:04.760 --> 0:18:10.160 City's offense is more explosive than the Cowboys. No, I'm 0:18:10.160 --> 0:18:13.440 saying I will worry more so just about protecting my defense. 0:18:14.200 --> 0:18:16.080 I want to make sure that I give the defense 0:18:16.160 --> 0:18:18.600 an opportunity to win the game. If we think about 0:18:18.600 --> 0:18:21.800 it from a complimentary football standpoint, I mean, Kevin working 0:18:21.880 --> 0:18:23.560 daveled up and they can throw it all over the yard. 0:18:23.800 --> 0:18:25.320 But I don't know if you want to necessarily have 0:18:25.400 --> 0:18:27.920 a forty five or forty two game against the Kansas 0:18:27.920 --> 0:18:30.280 City Chiefs. Like we can say that they're struggling their 0:18:30.320 --> 0:18:33.320 six and four, they're finding their way. But that quarterback 0:18:33.359 --> 0:18:35.159 on the other end is really really good, and I 0:18:35.240 --> 0:18:37.119 think Dak Prescott is good too. But I think if 0:18:37.160 --> 0:18:40.280 I'm managing the team from the head coaching spot, what 0:18:40.520 --> 0:18:42.359 is the best way for us to win? But the 0:18:42.440 --> 0:18:45.320 best way that Dallas has always won traditionally over the 0:18:45.400 --> 0:18:48.600 last decade has been when their offense dictates the term. 0:18:48.640 --> 0:18:51.280 They run out to a lead, they run the ball out, 0:18:51.359 --> 0:18:53.480 they run the clock out, and then they keep the 0:18:53.680 --> 0:18:56.600 defense off the field. I think that's how they want 0:18:56.640 --> 0:18:59.080 to play. I don't think you want the Cowboys defense 0:18:59.160 --> 0:19:02.120 playing seventy five snaps against cal Mahomes a company because 0:19:02.160 --> 0:19:04.680 at some point the lack of pass rush will allow 0:19:04.760 --> 0:19:07.399 him to make too many big plays. Buck. We were 0:19:07.440 --> 0:19:10.000 just talking about this on the first segment. Chris Jones 0:19:10.720 --> 0:19:13.160 kind of seems like he's bouncing around on this Kansas 0:19:13.200 --> 0:19:16.280 City defense. What what do they have him doing right now? 0:19:16.400 --> 0:19:19.240 What do you expect he's going to do on Sunday. 0:19:21.720 --> 0:19:24.119 When we started out the season with Chris Jones playing 0:19:24.240 --> 0:19:27.480 in they wanted to have him on one end, Frank 0:19:27.520 --> 0:19:29.520 Clark on the other end, and it was okay, but 0:19:29.600 --> 0:19:31.080 he was kind of like a fish out of water. 0:19:31.359 --> 0:19:33.960 Team started running right at him. He wasn't comfortable and 0:19:34.040 --> 0:19:37.080 despite all the immense talent that he has, he just 0:19:37.320 --> 0:19:39.720 didn't have the same kind of impact. When they are, 0:19:39.800 --> 0:19:41.719 they have the flexibility to be able to kick him 0:19:41.760 --> 0:19:46.399 back inside. They traded for Melvin Ingram, they have Alex 0:19:46.440 --> 0:19:50.480 Opa for so you probably see Jones more inside than outside. 0:19:50.800 --> 0:19:52.760 And when he's inside, he's a dominant player. He's as 0:19:52.800 --> 0:19:59.000 good as he's ever been. Yeah, Bucky, last week we 0:19:59.080 --> 0:20:01.600 saw that always off the bag, get on that field 0:20:01.760 --> 0:20:04.640 and just have fun. A lot of energy, just having fun, 0:20:05.080 --> 0:20:07.480 a lot of creative plays from Kellen Moore. Is this 0:20:07.600 --> 0:20:10.000 a week that they just kind of go in being 0:20:10.080 --> 0:20:13.440 themselves once again, or maybe Kellen Moore just kind of 0:20:13.640 --> 0:20:16.159 solidifies a little more and like limits this play to 0:20:16.280 --> 0:20:20.720 keep it more clean. Not clean. But how do you 0:20:21.160 --> 0:20:25.320 what's the word I'm looking for? Um, oh my god, 0:20:25.320 --> 0:20:28.480