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Speaker 1: Coming up in the program, a conversation with NFL Royalty Tom.
Speaker 1: We got a Bear's icon the great Hall of Fame
Speaker 1: mid linebacker Dick but Kiss.
Speaker 2: I know there's one story that he didn't tell you
Speaker 2: that I've asked them before in life that I would
Speaker 2: be I would like to contribute to.
Speaker 1: Okay, we'll talk about it afterwards. Up here at hallishall
Speaker 1: getting ready for week two. They will come quickly here.
Speaker 1: Now that the season is underway, Let's get you caught
Speaker 1: up on the latest news right now. The injury report
Speaker 1: no idea what Kyler Gordon's hand injury is they are
Speaker 1: not saying at this time. Also, Josh Blackwell, who is
Speaker 1: the backup Nickel, also on the injury report, so there
Speaker 1: could be some real shuffling going on here. Tyreek Stevenson
Speaker 1: time did play nickel at Georgia before he went to
Speaker 1: Miami Florida. Jalen Jones also played nickel last year against
Speaker 1: the Jets. There are options, but against this team, the
Speaker 1: Tampa Bay Buccaneers and that big slot Chris Godwin, that's
Speaker 1: a tall order.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but you know something we've grown used to from
Speaker 2: last year. The defensive backs all had a chance to
Speaker 2: play and contribute in some way, shape or form, from
Speaker 2: special teams to regular snaps on defense.
Speaker 3: So I don't think of anybody other than a rookie.
Speaker 2: It would be a great shock for them to either
Speaker 2: move position or to contribute somewhere or maybe even have
Speaker 2: a little bit of.
Speaker 3: A re evolving defensive backfield.
Speaker 2: So the guys are fresh according to what down and
Speaker 2: distance and what position they played.
Speaker 1: Bears head coach Matt Eberflus earlier at hadisaw on his
Speaker 1: comfort level in Josh Blackwell, Yeah.
Speaker 4: We're just looking at all of our options. But in
Speaker 4: terms of with Blackwell himself, in terms of the comment
Speaker 4: about last year, it's invaluable right to be able to
Speaker 4: be out there and know the position. You know, as
Speaker 4: we said before, there's a lot of detail to the
Speaker 4: position that Nickel spot, and you know he's done a
Speaker 4: good job in there. You know he's been a good
Speaker 4: special teamer for us, and you know if we go
Speaker 4: that route, that'll be you know it'll be he'll do
Speaker 4: a nice shots.
Speaker 3: Rlse Smith be another out. Who are those other options?
Speaker 5: I's not true.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm not going to divulge the other options right now,
Speaker 4: but we certainly like what we have all right.
Speaker 1: Another topic of conversation is Chase Claypool tom a big
Speaker 1: topic actually. Eberflu says he did visit with Claypool after
Speaker 1: the game about his perimeter blocking. Showed the technique in practice.
Speaker 1: We raved a bottom during training camp, digging out linebackers
Speaker 1: making big block. I know you are very happy with
Speaker 1: his progress during training camp, and after you watch the
Speaker 1: tape and watch how he played on Sunday against Green Bay,
Speaker 1: certainly you understand why some of these conversations are being
Speaker 1: taken place.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but you know technically it's one of the most
Speaker 2: difficult blocks to make because there's a separation anywhere between
Speaker 2: five and fifteen yards of ultimate the collision point of
Speaker 2: that block. The thing that you need to do is
Speaker 2: you need to do at full speed because you know
Speaker 2: exactly where the design of the play is supposed to hit.
Speaker 2: So if you attack a defensive back and you make
Speaker 2: him take the longest path possible to get to the
Speaker 2: ball carrier, then that could increase the amount of yards
Speaker 2: you have at contact or put the tackler in the
Speaker 2: most difficult position.
Speaker 3: So to me, when I look at it, you know
Speaker 3: everybody has a hand in the evaluation.
Speaker 2: Now through all your new day social media. If you
Speaker 2: know the play or you don't know the play, you
Speaker 2: don't know the point attack, you don't know the exact
Speaker 2: design of where the technique is supposed to happen. To me,
Speaker 2: it's more about the type of effort you give at
Speaker 2: the line of scrimmage to the point of block. And
Speaker 2: so that's what I need to see going forward is
Speaker 2: more effort, but more effort out of everybody. I'm not
Speaker 2: going to isolate Chase Claypool and say he's the reason
Speaker 2: the offense wasn't successful because I saw him do it
Speaker 2: at practice at a really high level. And that's what
Speaker 2: he has to do because you know, Chase Claypool is
Speaker 2: always going to be talked about size first. So when
Speaker 2: you have that six to four plus frame and you're
Speaker 2: hitting a defensive back that's going to be smaller than you,
Speaker 2: then you expect that Chase Claypool be in control of
Speaker 2: the collision.
Speaker 1: There's Mattybrafluss and then justin fields on Claypool.
Speaker 3: You know, I would just say everything comes down to technique.
Speaker 4: You know, it's about technique, and it's about really about
Speaker 4: when you're blocking the premier like that, you have to
Speaker 4: have good technique, right and you know he's displayed good
Speaker 4: technique in practice on that and.
Speaker 3: That's why we had him in those positions. But perimeter
Speaker 3: blocking is all about technique.
Speaker 4: It's all about your angles, and it's all about your
Speaker 4: intensity for sure, and it's always about that. And it
Speaker 4: doesn't matter if you're a push cracking on a line,
Speaker 4: on a linebacker or cracking down on somebody inside.
Speaker 3: That's what it's always about.
Speaker 6: I think the biggest thing is, you know, just having
Speaker 6: that same mentality as he did in camp and just
Speaker 6: you know, keep working hard every day and you know,
Speaker 6: just just keep going.
Speaker 5: You know.
Speaker 6: Of course he probably didn't have the game he wanted
Speaker 6: to have, probably wanted to have more catches, and you
Speaker 6: know we all probably didn't have the game that we
Speaker 6: wanted to have. But you know, just keep working, keep
Speaker 6: getting better. And I think that's the theme of this week.
Speaker 6: The theme of today is you know, uh, work towards
Speaker 6: want to know on Saturday or Sunday, and you know,
Speaker 6: just get ready.
Speaker 1: But and Tommy, you know, Justin was also asked about
Speaker 1: his relationship with Echlamenia Sam Brown, who was inactive for
Speaker 1: the game, and just what he brings to the table.
Speaker 6: Let's listen, In, he's a great run blocker for us,
Speaker 6: you know, he always has been since last year. And
Speaker 6: you know, he knows the playbook like the back of
Speaker 6: his hand. He's really smart, you know, and I think
Speaker 6: he's a leader in the receiver room. So just just
Speaker 6: that part permanter blocking, he's he's really good at that.
Speaker 6: So I think that's probably one thing that we missed.
Speaker 6: I mean, he's savvy, knows how to change directions, pretty
Speaker 6: good quality hands and you know, like I said, he's
Speaker 6: always gonna be on time with the quarterback. He's gonna
Speaker 6: run the right route at the right depth, and you know,
Speaker 6: be at the right place at the right time. So
Speaker 6: I mean, you just get dependability on him, and you
Speaker 6: know he's very reliable in the past game.
Speaker 1: So yeah, these are comparisons the media is making, you know,
Speaker 1: EQ Saint Brown out. You know, will Claypool be on
Speaker 1: the field on Sunday, you know, that yet to be determined,
Speaker 1: but head coach Maddie Reflution the Fellas will sort out
Speaker 1: that out against Tampa Bay down in South Florida. Overall, though,
Speaker 1: opening up the passing game certainly is something that's on
Speaker 1: everybody's mind.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, and Justin made reference to the fact
Speaker 2: that e Q knows this playbook like the back of
Speaker 2: his hand. And that's one thing every single player on
Speaker 2: this offensive side of the ball should have, is a
Speaker 2: great knowledge of the offense that they've been installing since OTAs.
Speaker 2: But it's about the performance on Sunday that is really
Speaker 2: gonna be the judgment of how well you play. And
Speaker 2: so if EQ Saint Brown is the next man up,
Speaker 2: and that mentality that's all around the NFL that.
Speaker 3: If they do put him in there.
Speaker 2: He has those perimeter blocks that are factor and outside
Speaker 2: run zone plays or screens, EQ has to come up
Speaker 2: with some big, big type of blocks.
Speaker 1: And justin talking about agreeing that he needs to take
Speaker 1: some shots down the field.
Speaker 3: Yeah, for sure.
Speaker 6: That's one thing I talked to Luke and coach about
Speaker 6: is just you know, I felt like I was a
Speaker 6: little bit too conservative at times during the game. So
Speaker 6: you know, definitely with you know, guys like DJ and
Speaker 6: chasing the outside if you know we do have one
Speaker 6: on one on the outside essentially thrown it up and
Speaker 6: seeing what happens. So you know, with them, you know
Speaker 6: they're great playmakers and you know they can most likely
Speaker 6: come up with the fifty to fifty balls, So definitely
Speaker 6: you don't want to give them more chances keep in
Speaker 6: the field.
Speaker 1: And I know this is something that's big for you
Speaker 1: for this matchup against Tampa Bay. Tommy pushing that ball
Speaker 1: down the field.
Speaker 2: Listen, if you have the luxury of time, if you
Speaker 2: can get yourself into an open throwing lane, if you
Speaker 2: recognize that their single man coverage at one of the
Speaker 2: receivers from DJ to whomever's on the field, you got
Speaker 2: to throw into a smaller window of opportunity and relive
Speaker 2: the receiver to either go up and make the catch,
Speaker 2: don't allow the defensive back to make a catch or
Speaker 2: do something spectacular right now.
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Speaker 1: but Kiss also on the injury report from a Tampa perspective,
Speaker 1: a shoulder he did practice though for Baker Mayfield, a
Speaker 1: rugged performance against Minnesota, winning on the road. It was
Speaker 1: kind of an ugly offensive first half. They couldn't get
Speaker 1: anything done. They blitzed him mercilessly, and he still managed
Speaker 1: to make plays big ones down the stretch, including closing
Speaker 1: out the game and never giving the ball back to
Speaker 1: Minnesota to have one final crack at it. What impresses
Speaker 1: you at all about their offense at the moment, Because
Speaker 1: you must begin the conversation with Mike Evans and Chris Godwin.
Speaker 3: Oh, you know, Mike Evans.
Speaker 2: That's where my concern is because anytime that you're told
Speaker 2: by the team that you're expected to go out and
Speaker 2: give one hundred percent for that, we're not going to
Speaker 2: resign you and give you the contract that you're asking for.
Speaker 2: It's almost like a challenge for Baker Mayfield. Hey, how
Speaker 2: can I keep Chris ev I mean, Mike Evans involved
Speaker 2: in this game plan? Give him more opportunities. He was
Speaker 2: targeted ten times this week, and you're gonna you're gonna
Speaker 2: give him opportunities.
Speaker 6: You know.
Speaker 2: I think that Mice Evans has developed a reputation that
Speaker 2: even if he's covered, he's not covered because he's got
Speaker 2: that huge frame that is willing to go up and compete.
Speaker 3: For the football at its highest point.
Speaker 2: Chris Godwin has always been a heck of a receiver
Speaker 2: and I think he's a great compliment to Mike Evans.
Speaker 3: And when you look.
Speaker 2: At the Baker Mayfield, you know, he keeps everybody involved.
Speaker 2: And Baker Mayfield has lived on the injury report. So
Speaker 2: I don't think this shoulder concerns is going to say,
Speaker 2: oh my god, maybe he will not take many snaps
Speaker 2: he will, and you know, Tampa always keeps the tight
Speaker 2: end involved, and the tight end has had some success
Speaker 2: against the Bears. But to me, it's running game through
Speaker 2: Mike Evans and to see how they can protect and
Speaker 2: the offensive line without Ryan Jensen. Their their biggest asset
Speaker 2: on the football field. When you think about Trisan Wurf's
Speaker 2: their great right tackle. He's moved a left tackle and
Speaker 2: had to get some advice during the offseason, but he's
Speaker 2: also going through some growing pain. So I do think
Speaker 2: the Bears have some attackability if they do want to
Speaker 2: take some chances and putting pressure on ba Baker Mayfield
Speaker 2: because he doesn't have that blazing speed and that athleticism
Speaker 2: that so many quarterbacks are gifted with, so try to
Speaker 2: make them look small and trying to throw in the
Speaker 2: tight spaces.
Speaker 1: Vikings blitzed a lot, they really did. I opened the well.
Speaker 2: You know it's different. The Vikings were playing at home.
Speaker 2: The crowd noise is an assistant. They are unlike a
Speaker 2: lot of stadiums in the NFL. So if I can
Speaker 2: make their snap count and their offensive line look dysfunctional,
Speaker 2: that I can take some chances. So yeah, I am
Speaker 2: willing to take some chances. Look, you know zero and
Speaker 2: two doesn't sound good. You know one and one really
Speaker 2: gets you back on track. So if you're looking at
Speaker 2: offense and justin talking about make taking some chances downfield.
Speaker 3: You'd have to look at the defense as well.
Speaker 1: So a guy who knows Tampa better than anybody to
Speaker 1: Dj Moore, So, nineteen targets, thirteen catches last season in
Speaker 1: two games against Tampa, two touchdowns, nearly two hundred yards
Speaker 1: against similar defensive players. I'm not sure who picked him
Speaker 1: up or how how they worked coverage over there. Carlton
Speaker 1: Davis was not in those two games, so he is
Speaker 1: usually the guy that goes with the number one. But
Speaker 1: that'll be interesting all that conversation after just two targets
Speaker 1: and two catches last week against Green Bay. Another note
Speaker 1: on Evans the amazing part of his career nine straight
Speaker 1: one thousand yard seasons to start a career. Too shy
Speaker 1: of the all time Jerry Rice record of eleven, Orrandy
Speaker 1: Moss had ten, And you mentioned the tight end. Ky
Speaker 1: Otton led all rookies last year with forty two catches,
Speaker 1: third and yards of three ninety one, And the offense
Speaker 1: kind of rolls through him with their new offensive coordinator,
Speaker 1: Dave Knelis, who came over from Seattle, so they brought
Speaker 1: some Seattle coaches over as well. They hung up twenty
Speaker 1: points down the road against Minnesota.
Speaker 2: You know, real quick though, one thing going forward, I
Speaker 2: think each week when we talk about the defense, it's
Speaker 2: not necessarily how in whom they're going to cover Dj
Speaker 2: Moore with how are they going to attack justin fields,
Speaker 2: because you're talking about probably the best athlete on the
Speaker 2: Bears offense is the one that they have to contain
Speaker 2: the most. To me, the next subject that's going to
Speaker 2: come out of your mouth is going to be about
Speaker 2: exactly that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, exactly. So what are we looking at? We're
Speaker 1: going to be looking at blitzes.
Speaker 3: Hey, listen, Todd Bowles.
Speaker 2: You know, he proved it in the Super Bowl that
Speaker 2: he has the ability to sit these guys on the
Speaker 2: quarterback from unexpected angles.
Speaker 3: That affect your periphiel vision. When you see.
Speaker 2: Pressure coming at you see guys in the defensive second
Speaker 2: level coming and trying to sneak up in the not
Speaker 2: sneak up into the gaps and show themselves in the gaps,
Speaker 2: so that interferes with your pass protection. If you think, okay,
Speaker 2: I have an inexperienced running back that has to block
Speaker 2: one of these talented linebackers, you're automatically thinking during the cadence,
Speaker 2: I probably got to get the ball out of my
Speaker 2: hand a little quicker second. Play the game this past
Speaker 2: week against the Minnesota Vikings, they blitz your guy Winfield
Speaker 2: for a sack cause fumble. So Todd Bowles, like I say,
Speaker 2: he'll never be in a three point stay, but he
Speaker 2: could be the biggest factor on defense.
Speaker 5: Yep.
Speaker 1: He makes all the calls. So when you see Vidavea
Speaker 1: coming off the line of scrimmage with heavy hands, he's
Speaker 1: got a rare combo of power and despite being six ' four,
Speaker 1: he's got leverage coming out of his stance. He'll control gaps.
Speaker 1: He is a load to deal with. Is that where
Speaker 1: it all begins for them defensively? Because he can collapse
Speaker 1: the pocket too and be there for three downs and
Speaker 1: ruin your run game and collapse the pocket whereas you
Speaker 1: have to push up or push out and you get
Speaker 1: extended into those edge rushers.
Speaker 3: Oh, you gotta figure Vdave he measures at six to four.
Speaker 2: Like you said, he probably comes off the ball more
Speaker 2: at about five to eleven.
Speaker 5: Wow.
Speaker 2: So the first thing that the offensive line coach should
Speaker 2: be preaching to every offensive lineman, if he's your responsibility,
Speaker 2: make sure you block the line of scrimmage before you
Speaker 2: try to go to the second level.
Speaker 3: If you have a.
Speaker 2: Combination block So right now, that has extended time at
Speaker 2: the line of scrimmage by two offensive linemen, and then
Speaker 2: you're talking about these linebackers having that extra second to
Speaker 2: run free. And that's the thing that can really hurt
Speaker 2: you in this defense is the ability of these.
Speaker 3: Linebackers to run.
Speaker 2: So didavea, Yeah, you got to try to get some
Speaker 2: movement on him. Why are they the best run stopping
Speaker 2: defensive line in the NFL Because he takes multiple blockers
Speaker 2: for an extended period of time.
Speaker 1: And those linebackers are both former Pro Bowlers, Devin White
Speaker 1: on the weak side and Levonte David the senior member
Speaker 1: of the Bucks defense now thirty three, and he still
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Speaker 1: and talk about. A full life Live with Dick Buckis.
Speaker 1: He thrived Tommy in an era of toughness, grint, bloody hands,
Speaker 1: mud made for NFL theater, that's for sure, and captured
Speaker 1: and persevered for perpetuity by NFL films. Our memories of
Speaker 1: marauding a six to three forty pounder, a growling middle linebacker,
Speaker 1: patrolling the Bears defense, linger and intrigue. My conversation with
Speaker 1: the great Dick Buckets.
Speaker 7: In a way I wish I was able to play today,
Speaker 7: But then again, maybe maybe not.
Speaker 5: Maybe I'd like the way it was back there.
Speaker 7: To me, that was professional football playing on a baseball
Speaker 7: field that literally went from one end zone down to
Speaker 7: the other, and then two feet later you're going to
Speaker 7: hit a brick wall and a chip broncle brick there.
Speaker 7: And who somebody said we had a locker room back there,
Speaker 7: you know, too small for you know, a wrestling team.
Speaker 7: It's just I just really liked it. It was to me,
Speaker 7: the real stuff. The real pros.
Speaker 1: You barely played on grass well after.
Speaker 7: No after yeah, after a couple of weeks, you know,
Speaker 7: they painted it. It was actually we practiced there, so
Speaker 7: you know, you heard that term like with sheep. You
Speaker 7: know the farmers. Other farmers didn't like sheep because they
Speaker 7: compacted the ground from walking because of their hoofs, And
Speaker 7: that's what we did with our spikes. It was literally
Speaker 7: just dirt and paint. And then what was at the
Speaker 7: south southeast corner where you know big two by twos
Speaker 7: or four by fourst covering the corner of the visitors
Speaker 7: dugout to finish the end zone.
Speaker 5: So the corner.
Speaker 7: Over there was boards over the over the dugout, and
Speaker 7: then they would go their locker room would be above above.
Speaker 7: They'd go through the dugout and then walk upstairs and
Speaker 7: then to this room, you know, and then all the
Speaker 7: fans are there throwing. They used to do that to
Speaker 7: us over at County Stadium too. They finally put like
Speaker 7: you know, like like tarpolian or something inside the fence
Speaker 7: because they throw that she as you walk by.
Speaker 1: That was an era of the intimacy of the game.
Speaker 1: The fans are right on top of Wrigley Field.
Speaker 7: You know, and you'd get there and there'd be a
Speaker 7: couple of kids, you know, you bring them in with you. Yeah,
Speaker 7: he's coming in with me, you know, to the game.
Speaker 7: And it was all cool. You know, you have to
Speaker 7: go through all these Jesus yesterday you think I was
Speaker 7: going on the lockdown at the house.
Speaker 1: But so to you, it's it's something like a romanticists
Speaker 1: view of what the game was born to be.
Speaker 7: You weren't thinking so much of the exposure that you
Speaker 7: were presenting, like like today. But imagine the TV you know,
Speaker 7: in the crowds, the viewership, you know, the super Bowl,
Speaker 7: the biggest selling, our biggest or most watched show. Back then,
Speaker 7: you know, it wasn't like that. But I don't know
Speaker 7: I traditionalists or whatever, call me. I just I loved
Speaker 7: it back then.
Speaker 1: But let me let me pose this question to you, though,
Speaker 1: so six three forty pound linebacker who would have been
Speaker 1: prepared differently both by training, nutrition, Injuries would be treated differently,
Speaker 1: surgeries would be treated differently. What kind of linebacker would
Speaker 1: you have been?
Speaker 7: There's a guy named Arthur Jones who when I retired,
Speaker 7: I when I moved to Florida, I started working with him,
Speaker 7: and he's the guy who invented the Nautilists equipment and
Speaker 7: he he was a no bullsh guy. To go through
Speaker 7: a real Nautilus workout is you know, it's a bit
Speaker 7: to do it right.
Speaker 6: Uh.
Speaker 7: He took me through a couple and I, you know,
Speaker 7: made it a point to get through. And he said,
Speaker 7: if if I would have gotten you when you were
Speaker 7: like nineteen, he said, they would have to bar you blaying.
Speaker 7: He said, because that two sixty you could have been
Speaker 7: weighing two seventy and been a lot stronger and faster
Speaker 7: at everything else. And I already had the skill of
Speaker 7: the game. You know, you could take two guys and okay, granted,
Speaker 7: you know, a proper training, strength training and all that
Speaker 7: is good, but if this guy doesn't have some inkling
Speaker 7: of how to play the damn game, you know, you've
Speaker 7: got a big guy that's an oath that can't play.
Speaker 7: And so that's the only thing I was always lacking,
Speaker 7: the proper training, although I thought I was, you know,
Speaker 7: I would work out, but you'd no, I didn't live
Speaker 7: weights because when I was like eight or nine years old.
Speaker 7: At Griffin Editorium on the South Side, there is where
Speaker 7: we swam as the city pool and we were on
Speaker 7: the swim team, so we got a next do you know,
Speaker 7: you'd have the normal swim, then they'd empty out every
Speaker 7: the pool and wait till everybody goes, and then we'd
Speaker 7: go back and practice for swim meets. And so in
Speaker 7: the meantime, while they're waiting for the pool empty people,
Speaker 7: we're back there fooling around with weights. And I had
Speaker 7: this weight over me and I fell backwards and I
Speaker 7: fractioned like my wrist, and I said, that's an end
Speaker 7: of that. So what I was actually doing when I
Speaker 7: was like fifteen, I started working as a furniture mover.
Speaker 5: And that was.
Speaker 7: That was my that was my weightlifting, and it was
Speaker 7: you know, there's two different ways what we'd call it.
Speaker 7: You know, positive is like what if you're raising a
Speaker 7: weight and then lowering it. It's called like negative where
Speaker 7: you can lower about thirty to forty percent more weight
Speaker 7: than you could lift. And Arthur used to take me
Speaker 7: right through a whole negative workout where you just lower
Speaker 7: the weight and you talk about wanting to feel stiff
Speaker 7: the next day.
Speaker 5: So we so when I.
Speaker 7: Was working with him, we did an experiment at West
Speaker 7: Point and the reason we chose West Point, well, first
Speaker 7: of all, the guy, the strength coach there was a
Speaker 7: Nautilis guy proponent, so we went there also because those kids,
Speaker 7: those cadets, you tell them to run through that wall,
Speaker 7: and they'll try to do it for you, because that's
Speaker 7: the kind of workout it is to do it properly.
Speaker 7: So we start, you know, and we're hoping we're going
Speaker 7: to get some first string football players for him and
Speaker 7: really help him. You know, I forget the coach's name,
Speaker 7: but he was scared, so he gave us like all
Speaker 7: the you know, second third teams. But still they were
Speaker 7: cadets and they still had that desire. So the first
Speaker 7: couple of days, I mean they couldn't get to the
Speaker 7: second or third machine without throwing up or having their
Speaker 7: pulse goal like up until two twenty, you know, almost
Speaker 7: the fibrillation. By the end of the sixteen workouts, they
Speaker 7: were able to go through the whole thing and I
Speaker 7: get their pulse over one seventy five and they like tripled.
Speaker 5: Their their strength.
Speaker 7: So I mean Shula actually bought the stuff and he
Speaker 7: helped move the move the equipment in with the Dolphins,
Speaker 7: so it was, uh, it was a great experience for him,
Speaker 7: but it was after.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I was done, and you know, I'm my god.
Speaker 7: So they hear like Tremaine talk about you know here
Speaker 7: like their diet and everything else.
Speaker 5: Can you imagine?
Speaker 1: I mean honestly, what were you going to eat after
Speaker 1: practice or going before practice? What we eat whatever? You
Speaker 1: can fight?
Speaker 3: You know?
Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, that's a good question.
Speaker 5: Hell we ate?
Speaker 1: Did you guys have pregame?
Speaker 7: Mellah, yeah, stiled steak, load up on all the wrong stuff.
Speaker 5: Make you feel even more loggy? You know that it
Speaker 5: was the state deal?
Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, yeah, No, I don't know what they have
Speaker 7: spaghetti or whatever.
Speaker 5: I don't know.
Speaker 1: It's it's a smartger sport.
Speaker 7: It's a a lot of advances that in the strengthening.
Speaker 5: That's what I missed that we didn't have were you.
Speaker 1: You know, I always are interested about the term instincts
Speaker 1: because if we have fifty guys in our room that
Speaker 1: never played football, if we teach them one rep to
Speaker 1: make a play, how many what percentage of those fifty
Speaker 1: guys are going to have instincts to play the game.
Speaker 1: Now you have to have the athleticism and do it.
Speaker 1: Your instincts were insane well, was the geometry of the game,
Speaker 1: the angles or how would you define your.
Speaker 7: Well, the way I want to explain it to you
Speaker 7: is that, you know, I was always since I was
Speaker 7: eight or nine, because I was the youngest of nine,
Speaker 7: A couple of my brothers played organized Ronnie he played
Speaker 7: with the Cardinals for a year or whatever. So I
Speaker 7: always looked looked up to them. And and like I said,
Speaker 7: I lived at one hundred and third Street there and
Speaker 7: there we had a you know, a decent sized front
Speaker 7: lawn or whatever in a picket fence, and so I
Speaker 7: got the old skippy jar and that's what I used
Speaker 7: for a tea and start kicking because they wuldn't let
Speaker 7: me play with them over at Frienwood Park there on
Speaker 7: the southside. So I just, uh, I would you know,
Speaker 7: the neighbors must have thought I was something wrong with
Speaker 7: me because I'd played by myself. I'd you know, run
Speaker 7: and play like I got tackled, and and all that
Speaker 7: stuff carried over to when I got to high school,
Speaker 7: and it you know, I was I was so in
Speaker 7: end of the game, you know a lot.
Speaker 5: Of trivial things.
Speaker 7: And that's why, like you know, at CVS, you know,
Speaker 7: I kicked, I punted, I kicked off, I kicked field
Speaker 7: goals did I never? I never stepped off the field.
Speaker 7: And uh and that's the way I liked it.
Speaker 1: So And the story goes, you would have been a
Speaker 1: potential Hall of Fame center.
Speaker 5: Well, that's what Gibbrian wanted me.
Speaker 7: I wanted me to switch over if I couldn't play
Speaker 7: linebacker anymore. And I probably could have if I made
Speaker 7: up my mind.
Speaker 5: To do that.
Speaker 1: But you had a lot of good friends as centers
Speaker 1: over the years, especially in the division. Yeah, I mean
Speaker 1: with them, you're an instigator.
Speaker 5: Well, I used to have a lot of fun.
Speaker 7: You know, everybody thought I was so serious, but like
Speaker 7: you know, Joe Camp would kneel down facing the defense.
Speaker 7: You know, they'd have the circle huddle, but you know
Speaker 7: you can get somewhere where you can see, and you
Speaker 7: just read his lips. And then at the end he
Speaker 7: had to he tells you to play. You know they
Speaker 7: always quarterbacks always go on two or on one. Yeah,
Speaker 7: you know, so they'd come to the line and then
Speaker 7: I just like real serious, like I Mick, don't forget.
Speaker 5: It's on too, and he, you know, looking like that
Speaker 5: everybody it's on too. You know, they're just like, is.
Speaker 1: There anybody that you didn't get a look at that
Speaker 1: you wish you would have?
Speaker 7: Oh, maybe Bradshaw one more time at Bradshaw.
Speaker 1: How did you handle losing? What would you say to
Speaker 1: players that are still trying to learn how to win?
Speaker 7: Well? I don't think I would be a very good
Speaker 7: person to talk about losing, because I you know I would.
Speaker 7: I would take it personally no matter what. Like I
Speaker 7: was telling tre Men and I said, you know, there's.
Speaker 5: My deal.
Speaker 7: My motivation throughout the years was that you're never going
Speaker 7: to play a perfect game, so that there's no no
Speaker 7: resting on your laurels. You can always do better. And
Speaker 7: and that's what.
Speaker 5: I and when.
Speaker 7: I guess I thought if you lost, you had to
Speaker 7: feel bad all week. But maybe that was my incentive
Speaker 7: to do, you know, work extra hard on different things to.
Speaker 5: Avoid that happening.
Speaker 7: I mean, how can you explain I get Defensive Player
Speaker 7: of the Year when we win one.
Speaker 1: Game nineteen sixty nine.
Speaker 7: Yeah, So I always had that attitude that there's there
Speaker 7: is no perfect game. There's always something extra block, you
Speaker 7: can make, an extra tackle or whatever. You just never
Speaker 7: know how important it is in outside telling Tremaine, you know, you.
Speaker 5: Know, what do you do? I figure out what?
Speaker 7: You know, a guy they toss a past to John
Speaker 7: Mackie breaks and he's you know, thirty yards downfield, and
Speaker 7: so you run up to him, and so what are
Speaker 7: you gonna do. You're gonna drag him down to make
Speaker 7: a tackle or could you grab him and try to
Speaker 7: punch the ball out? There's no other offensive players around,
Speaker 7: and so what if he gains five more yards, He's already.
Speaker 5: Made the first out.
Speaker 7: And a number of times that actually happened. So that's
Speaker 7: one way of almost accepting, not accepting a defeat. You know,
Speaker 7: here's a guy breaking a long one for a touchdown
Speaker 7: that should be a touchdown, and you stop them. So
Speaker 7: there's always always something extra.
Speaker 5: You could do. And that's why I like playing on
Speaker 5: all the all the teams.
Speaker 7: You know, kickoff, well I didn't play in the kickoff
Speaker 7: after my first or second year, but everything else I
Speaker 7: was on all the special teams.
Speaker 5: I just didn't want to get off the field.
Speaker 7: So and that's the way it is, you know, I
Speaker 7: would think it would be pretty hard to find someone
Speaker 7: who loved.
Speaker 5: To play the game more than I did. I don't
Speaker 5: know it's maybe be a cliche, but uh, put up.
Speaker 7: I'd put up the time that I've thought about it
Speaker 7: and worked on it all those years against anybody.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Tommy knew he was going to be a football
Speaker 1: player in the fifth grade, like you.
Speaker 2: Yep, that's the way we're raised. You know, he's raised
Speaker 2: on the South Side. I'm raising Joliet. When Pop Warner
Speaker 2: Football came into existence here in Joliet, Rocky Carnegie, the
Speaker 2: head coach, came over to our house and told my mom,
Speaker 2: I know you have two sons.
Speaker 3: We need him for Pop Warner Football.
Speaker 2: Be at Pershing Field on this reporting date and the
Speaker 2: rest is history.
Speaker 1: So what were we gonna at the outset of the program?
Speaker 1: You said you had a butt this note.
Speaker 2: I thought, okay, So one time we're going to have
Speaker 2: to have Jim Morrissey on, who ended up wearing number
Speaker 2: fifty one, and he tells the greatest story of the
Speaker 2: first time he came face to face wearing number fifty one,
Speaker 2: Dick Buckets walked in the locker room. That's a story
Speaker 2: that Jim is going to have to tell us. But
Speaker 2: I asked Dick Buckets one time about the Rocky movie
Speaker 2: when he named his dog Buckus, And I said, did
Speaker 2: Sylvester Stallone call you beforehand and ask you if he
Speaker 2: could name his dog Buckets. He goes, no, he didn't,
Speaker 2: but Dick Buckets has acting in his background, so he
Speaker 2: says no. But I did run into Stallone at one
Speaker 2: time and I said, hey, where's the residual we do?
Speaker 3: You know? You name your dog?
Speaker 2: And it was kind of a funny back and forth
Speaker 2: that they had, And it was out of respect that
Speaker 2: Sylvester Stallone name is dog Buckus in the movie. But
Speaker 2: there was never a hole a pre phone conversation say hey,
Speaker 2: Dick Buckets, we're gonna name our dog after you, and
Speaker 2: he's going to play a major part in the movie.
Speaker 2: But I just think it's funny that it's football respect.
Speaker 2: It's the video respect that Buckus has, and he talks
Speaker 2: about the love of the game. But then how does
Speaker 2: it spill over generations and years after one of the
Speaker 2: greatest movies ever made, in the first Rocky and they
Speaker 2: named the dog Buckets in Philly.
Speaker 3: That's pretty impressive.
Speaker 1: I will tell you. As he was sitting there contemplating
Speaker 1: with that final quote, which is the greatest way to
Speaker 1: end that interview, if any loved the game more than
Speaker 1: me and he got emotional, he did, He got emotional.
Speaker 1: It still means everything to him, the game, the game
Speaker 1: he played, the game he played when he played, it
Speaker 1: means everything.
Speaker 2: I kind of got a kick out of him talking
Speaker 2: about the stadiums that he played in, whether it's Wrigley
Speaker 2: or County Stadium in Green Bay when they played half
Speaker 2: games in Milwaukee, half games in green Bay. But in
Speaker 2: nineteen eighty four, nineteen eighty three, when Mark Board started
Speaker 2: to play offensive guard for the Bears, I saw this
Speaker 2: video clip when we were preparing for Green Bay the
Speaker 2: next year. He was rounding the corner in the end
Speaker 2: and he stepped on that board that was the edge
Speaker 2: of the end zone in County Stadium, and he twisted
Speaker 2: his ankle so badly that he had a severe sprained
Speaker 2: ankle from it. So, whether it's buckis talking about his
Speaker 2: era or you know, update it until the era that
Speaker 2: I became a part of the Bears, and seeing that
Speaker 2: video of that, it's just there's something that he talks
Speaker 2: about that is an ignition. Switcher reminds me of an
Speaker 2: event of you know, not his era, but of an
Speaker 2: era gone by.
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Speaker 1: Practice squads for all thirty two key teams will be
Speaker 1: expanded in twenty twenty four to allow for one international
Speaker 1: player each team, part of that growing international initiative. There
Speaker 1: are plenty of those players on rosters now, including one
Speaker 1: here for the Chicago Bears. What do you feel about.
Speaker 3: I'm all for it.
Speaker 2: I love to see development of an athlete that maybe
Speaker 2: has a unique skill set or a size that you go,
Speaker 2: you look off in the distance, you go go, oh,
Speaker 2: look at that guy.
Speaker 3: I would love to have a chance to work with him.
Speaker 2: So it's, you know, from the so the full spectrum
Speaker 2: of skill set, speed, size, unique talent that you know
Speaker 2: is developable and so I would like to see him.
Speaker 2: But as much as them play on a practice squad,
Speaker 2: I would like to see them first get reps in
Speaker 2: the USFL or the XFL to get some actual game
Speaker 2: type of play, and then step onto the NFL field.
Speaker 3: I think you'd become more competitive sooner.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Royan Betica, he's an offensive lineman here for the Bears.
Speaker 1: He was with the Giants on their practice squad last
Speaker 1: year and remains on the Bears practice squad.
Speaker 7: Now.
Speaker 1: Most of these guys are defensive lineman, edge rusher's offensive lineman.
Speaker 1: They're big, big guys, that's for sure.
Speaker 3: Chris J.
Speaker 1: Jones could make up to twenty five million this year.
Speaker 1: He still could be tagged, but he's back with the
Speaker 1: Kansas City Chiefs. I'm sure he'll play a little bit
Speaker 1: this week, but you know, you'd expect him to be
Speaker 1: there when they meet the meet the Bears in Kansas City.
Speaker 3: Yeah, in a fresher Chris Jones.
Speaker 2: My belief that on third and obvious that he would
Speaker 2: be in the game this week.
Speaker 1: Jason Peters at forty one signing with Seattle thoughts amazing.
Speaker 3: It's a credit to Jason Peters.
Speaker 2: You know, here's a guy that's ready and prepared to
Speaker 2: go in and play, and you know maybe he needs
Speaker 2: six or seven days of preparation and more power to him. Congratulations.
Speaker 2: And I wish I had had the opportunity to play
Speaker 2: at forty one.
Speaker 1: You could have if the back didn't go right.
Speaker 2: No, I mean, if it was the modern day football,
Speaker 2: I think I would have been able to. I kept
Speaker 2: myself in shape, and I was still playing a lot
Speaker 2: of competitive sports at that age, and it just would
Speaker 2: have been fun to be that old in the locker
Speaker 2: room and trying to deliver a positive message is to
Speaker 2: kids that you need them to work harder or put
Speaker 2: more effort into their preparation.
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Speaker 1: thoughts as we look ahead to week two, twelve o'clock
Speaker 1: the kickoff from Tampa, Florida, where it's expected to be warm, muggy,
Speaker 1: and possibly rainy.
Speaker 5: Uh.
Speaker 1: What are the keys the victory big time? What are
Speaker 1: the keys to me?
Speaker 2: I think the Bears if they run the ball successfully,
Speaker 2: they can expose some defensive coverages that they run really
Speaker 2: aggressive play action passing, and they have to go out
Speaker 2: there and run play action as it looks exactly like
Speaker 2: a run on the line of stitch. Then you get
Speaker 2: those defensive backs peaking in the backfields and where's Justin
Speaker 2: gonna go? Who's gonna get the handoff? And I think
Speaker 2: it'll allow Justin to have more obvious pass opportunities than
Speaker 2: if you have a dropack.
Speaker 3: And straight uh protection.
Speaker 5: Uh.
Speaker 2: In the throwing game, you talk about play action. Then
Speaker 2: you're talking about getting Cole Comet involved, getting the running
Speaker 2: backs involved, given the offensive line chance to fire off
Speaker 2: the ball aggressively, but not have that blocking a run
Speaker 2: blocking assignment, more of a sustained run fake assignment. But
Speaker 2: it's got to be aggressive. You gotta be able to
Speaker 2: fool the defensive line of scrimmage by making it look
Speaker 2: like run knowing the whole time you're going to throw
Speaker 2: the ball.
Speaker 3: All right.
Speaker 1: For me, it's just protecting the football, especially on the road,
Speaker 1: that'll be the demise if you can't protect the football
Speaker 1: and obviously defensively, figure out a way to calm down
Speaker 1: Mike Evans and Chris Godwin. I mean, I know it's
Speaker 1: never that simple, but I know everyone's going to talk
Speaker 1: about and watch very closely third down on both sides
Speaker 1: of the ball, what happens there, and if the Bears
Speaker 1: are going to push the ball down the field and whatnot.
Speaker 1: But you got to start with those cornerstones and figure
Speaker 1: out a way to stop those two guys and hopefully
Speaker 1: you'll lead to a victory and be one on one head.
Speaker 3: In the Week three, you got.
Speaker 2: To get to Baker Mayfield. Though, if you know the
Speaker 2: last thing before you let me go? Is I really
Speaker 2: am happy for Tarie calling. Oh yeah, he's gonna bring
Speaker 2: out a practice spot of the Carolyn Panthers. And for
Speaker 2: a guy what he's been through in the last few
Speaker 2: years of his life and then the growth that we
Speaker 2: got to watch from tree callin from the first time
Speaker 2: we did an event with him to the last time
Speaker 2: we did an event. I'm really pulling for him, and
Speaker 2: I hope that he succeeds in Carolina and Frank Reich,
Speaker 2: who's familiar with him from when he burst out of
Speaker 2: the scene in the league. I hope Tarik really has
Speaker 2: an opportunity to expand his career. He's a twenty eight
Speaker 2: year old young man and so I wish the best
Speaker 2: for him.
Speaker 1: He's quite the fight, no question about it, personally and
Speaker 1: then obviously professionally with the injury that happened on that
Speaker 1: punt return several years ago. All Right, that's going to
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