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Speaker 1: What's up? Its way up with Angela Yee.

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Speaker 2: I'm Angela Yee and it is a Wealth Wednesday, so

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Speaker 2: my Wealth Wednesday partner, Stacy Tisdale is here.

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Speaker 3: I don't have much to say because I'm sitting next

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Speaker 3: to someone who makes me nervous.

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Speaker 4: Is one of my favorite actors.

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Speaker 5: Angela Ye says you. Tisdale's incredible. I'm I'm way up.

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Speaker 5: I'm way up. Yeah, till harpers in the house, what's happening?

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Speaker 5: And whenever I go on the radio, I just dropped

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Speaker 5: my octaves a few because I just want to sound

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Speaker 5: like it's a velvety, smooth radio sound.

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Speaker 2: They say anything, And it's so funny because right now,

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Speaker 2: what we're not focused so much on the acting career

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Speaker 2: as we are on this new career. Yes, that you

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Speaker 2: have embarked upon, but just for people who are listening.

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Speaker 2: You know him from The Good Doctor from CSI New

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Speaker 2: York and the movie Had Does.

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Speaker 1: It Have Plenty?

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Speaker 5: Have Plenty Love forty Baby? That's the line. Noah, that's

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Speaker 5: the line people say. And then they're in too deep.

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Speaker 5: They tell me I say a line call you Ain't

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Speaker 5: no Cop Jay Reid, and then the and they say

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Speaker 5: back of me on he got game is I said,

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Speaker 5: my character said I feel like I'm handsome when I'm

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Speaker 5: on the court. That's what they said.

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Speaker 1: Classic these little lines.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, these classic, classic lines. But this next thing is

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Speaker 2: not acting. Okay, this is real life. You're actually running

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Speaker 2: for Michigan Senate.

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Speaker 5: Well, United States Senate from Michigan.

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Speaker 2: Yes, yes, yes, the United State Senate from Michigan. How

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Speaker 2: many senators are black? By the way, in Michigan.

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Speaker 5: In Michigan, there's never been a black US information there's

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Speaker 5: only been listening to this, y'all, there's only been eleven

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Speaker 5: black US Senators in the history of this country. That means,

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Speaker 5: just for you math geniuses out there, there's been a

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Speaker 5: higher percentage of black US presidents two point two percent

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Speaker 5: then US black US senators zero point five percent.

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Speaker 4: That's crazy.

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Speaker 3: It's got the biggest black population of any city and

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Speaker 3: they have no representation in Congress at all.

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Speaker 5: No, no, it's for the first time in fifty seven years,

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Speaker 5: Michigan does not have a black Democratic representative in Congress.

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Speaker 5: It is crazy. And you know, folks, folks have heard

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Speaker 5: that line, make America great again. I think that's what

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Speaker 5: they were talking about in other words, taking us back

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Speaker 5: to a time when we didn't have representation and safe

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Speaker 5: for them. It was great for them back when it

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Speaker 5: was good, real good, real good. They didn't have to

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Speaker 5: see us except wh're walking up to serving food and

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Speaker 5: walking back up the backstairs and stayed in the servants quarters. Okay,

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Speaker 5: So the point is is that we need and I can't.

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Speaker 5: I can't overemphasize. You know what Shirley Chisholm said, if

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Speaker 5: you don't have a seat at the table, then you're

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Speaker 5: on the menu. And we need representation. We need representation federally.

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Speaker 5: And and this, to me, Michigan is a bell weather

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Speaker 5: it is, It's the line in the sand. We gotta

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Speaker 5: grab it back. And that's why running for US Senate

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Speaker 5: is such a huge deal. But that's why I need

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Speaker 5: everybody's support.

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Speaker 1: And Shirley Chishm mulso told us to bring our fothing chairs.

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Speaker 1: You know what happens when we get a folding chair.

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Speaker 5: There you go, there you go.

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Speaker 4: How much of a factor did that play in your

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Speaker 4: decision to run?

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Speaker 5: You know, that was a huge factor from the energy

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Speaker 5: of pea people in Michigan and in Detroit my house,

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Speaker 5: I live in Detroit, and there's a palpable energy there

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Speaker 5: because I'm telling you, it's the greatest people in the

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Speaker 5: world or in Detroit. And that's why I moved there.

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Speaker 5: I moved there seven years ago because I'd met so

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Speaker 5: many wonderful people and I was like, when I have kids,

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Speaker 5: I want to raise my kids here because I want

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Speaker 5: them to turn out like the people here, not necessarily

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Speaker 5: like the people in Hollywood or other places I've lived.

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Speaker 5: And my son's seven years old and we've been there,

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Speaker 5: and the thing is is that folks have worked so hard.

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Speaker 5: There's so much grit, there's so much love, there's so

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Speaker 5: much just good people. But you need to marry that

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Speaker 5: with power. You need to marry that with representation. You

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Speaker 5: need to marry that with federal funds, because unfortunately, when

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Speaker 5: you drive around many communities, not in Michigan, and I'm

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Speaker 5: sure there are plenty of cities like this. I mean

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Speaker 5: where we're talking about different places all over the country.

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Speaker 5: You drive around Detroit, Flint, Saginaw, Beton Harbor, Muskegan Heights,

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Speaker 5: you see empty lots, bombed out buildings, a liquor store

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Speaker 5: there buy something through three instance of PLEXI. They can

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Speaker 5: only get fundians, fago or Wurners. And where's the fresh produce?

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Speaker 5: It's not there? How do people eat healthy? Where's the

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Speaker 5: where's the funding for the public education? And school? Schools

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Speaker 5: have windows falling off the walls, all sorts of things.

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Speaker 5: We have to solve these problems and the only way

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Speaker 5: we solve them is through representation.

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Speaker 2: And I want to be clear aside from your background

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Speaker 2: that we talked about in acting, but you also have

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Speaker 2: four decades been doing this work as far as even

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Speaker 2: with the books that you've written, Yes, you know that

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Speaker 2: Black Wall Street that you've done. I want to make

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Speaker 2: sure we talk about those, because this isn't just something

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Speaker 2: that it's like I want to run for us Nate,

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Speaker 2: But this is the work that you've been talking about

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Speaker 5: My activism and that work without question, and my whole

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Speaker 5: thing was when I when I went to Harvard Law

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Speaker 5: School and I went to the County School of Government,

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Speaker 5: I always knew that public service was important. But I

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Speaker 5: also knew that there were people like Harribilafonte that I

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Speaker 5: love and was inspired by, and I was like well,

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Speaker 5: I want to be an I want to be like him,

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Speaker 5: an activist but also using the characters and the artistry

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Speaker 5: to create positive social change. But the world has changed.

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Speaker 5: We all know this. The world has changed since I

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Speaker 5: started my career. And where it's changed is I believe

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Speaker 5: there's really two verticals of real change that we can

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Speaker 5: make technology and politically right now. And if we don't

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Speaker 5: have representation politically, in other words, the easiest way to

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Speaker 5: say it, if we aren't, like my grandmama used to say, baby,

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Speaker 5: follow the money, if we aren't actually advocating to make

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Speaker 5: sure resources federal resources go to marginalized communities and communities

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Speaker 5: that lack agency and voice. Right now, our federal government

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Speaker 5: is dominated by lobbyists, big corporate interest, and special interest,

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Speaker 5: all of them funded by outside money. And that's where

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Speaker 5: the resources are going. And you know, the single mom

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Speaker 5: not have a lobbyist in Washington, but that should not

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Speaker 5: we need people in place in an office that will

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Speaker 5: fight for her.

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Speaker 3: Neither party's talking about what's really happened in the black

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Speaker 3: economy since COVID, you really saw We all know our story,

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Speaker 3: and it's always being told is we're the bottom or

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Speaker 3: lack or this or that. But since COVID, we really

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Speaker 3: stepped away from the traditional financial system and really embraced

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Speaker 3: the digital economy. Because of technology has made us have

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Speaker 3: accessible entry points to investing. So you have, like the

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Speaker 3: last three years the largest number of first time investors

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Speaker 3: to the stock market or black forty percent of all

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Speaker 3: the cryptocurrencies in the world are owned by people of color.

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Speaker 3: No one's talking about this on an either party how

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Speaker 3: things like Okay, so we should be giving Wi Fi

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Speaker 3: to everybody. We should be closing the digital divide. We're

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Speaker 3: not having like a modern economic conversation about our community.

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Speaker 5: Yes, And what I love about that, Stacey, is that

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Speaker 5: what you're really talking about is breaking down barriers to

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Speaker 5: entry into participation. And so what the token economy does,

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Speaker 5: and token ownership and the gig economy, it allows people

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Speaker 5: to participate in a different way. That's why I'm a

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Speaker 5: huge proponent, for instance, of the tokenization of real estate

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Speaker 5: assets because of there have been so many historic barriers

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Speaker 5: to entry of us owning property. Angela, I know you

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Speaker 5: got the beautiful thirty unit building in Detroit. So proud

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Speaker 2: That it's hard to get though exactly easy. I have

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Speaker 2: amazing I work really hard to build up my credit

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Speaker 2: to get to that point. But even then, even then,

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Speaker 2: it wasn't easy for me to It took me literally

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Speaker 2: like a year to be able to close that deal.

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Speaker 5: Less than one percent of all lending from our major

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Speaker 5: banks in this country go to people of color.

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Speaker 2: A small bank there go, and I wasn't able to

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Speaker 2: go to a major bank to be able to fund that.

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Speaker 5: Sixty percent of the lending from MDIs minority depository institutions

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Speaker 5: or you can just call black banks go to people

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Speaker 5: in the community. So therefore, it doesn't take a genius

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Speaker 5: to say, if you want to see more lending in

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Speaker 5: of our MDIs. And where's the federal government playing that?

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Speaker 5: We just we just saw the federal government spend trillions

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Speaker 5: of dollars bailing out banks. A very small fraction that

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Speaker 5: could go to undergird MDIs and we could see increased

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Speaker 5: lending we need. There's so many young entrepreneurs that would

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Speaker 5: love to solve the food desert problem. I don't even

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Speaker 5: And what we're seeing is we to solve many of

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Speaker 5: these problems. We need funding, we need lending and it.

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Speaker 5: But but what's crazy about it is it's your money.

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Speaker 5: And this is why I keep saying your money, your choice.

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Speaker 5: It's not like the federal government is giving you. They're

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Speaker 5: just deciding.

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Speaker 1: Where it is going.

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Speaker 5: The money is there, the allocation and how it's being

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Speaker 1: And this is a new space for you, Hill Harper run.

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Speaker 1: It is for you as.

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Speaker 5: Senate and miss I need y'all's help.

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Speaker 2: And so I want to ask you what are some

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Speaker 2: things that you've learned because we talked about finances quite

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Speaker 2: a bit and for you to even run this campaign,

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Speaker 2: and because some people might feel like, Okay, we've seen

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Speaker 2: and they're able to just kind of I don't know

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Speaker 2: how much of your own money that you can use,

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Speaker 2: but you really do need to raise money from the

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Speaker 2: average everyday person.

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Speaker 1: Let's talk about that whole battle.

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Speaker 5: You know what's crazy is one of the first things

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Speaker 5: I want to do when I get elected is to

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Speaker 5: pull money out of politics, because we just talked about

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Speaker 5: tokenization brings barriers down. What I've learned since I've gotten

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Speaker 5: into this is that what the incumbents have done, and

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Speaker 5: this is both parties right, they love power, and so

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Speaker 5: what they've done is they've erected all these barriers to competition,

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Speaker 5: so that that's why you see elected officials in office

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Speaker 5: forever falling asleep, you know, at the mic, because you

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Speaker 5: cannot beat an incombup because of all the structural and

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Speaker 5: system barriers they've created. And the biggest one, y'all is money.

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Speaker 5: You can run as long as you want as a candidate,

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Speaker 5: which is shouldn't be the case. I don't think any

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Speaker 5: election should be longer than six months, except for the presidency,

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Speaker 5: because there's multiple primaries, and number one, you should only

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Speaker 5: be able to raise on hundred thousand but maybe one

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Speaker 5: hundred thousand OAR public match that's two hundred thousand dollars,

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Speaker 5: and other than that, you have to organize, get volunteers,

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Speaker 5: Yes, and my whole thing, you didn't.

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Speaker 2: Even discuss this in advance, but I saw this right

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Speaker 5: Because here's the thing is that I have no problem

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Speaker 3: Correct in that same vein the day before he was assassinated.

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Speaker 5: Yes.

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Speaker 4: The people have the power, yes, like we do.

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Speaker 5: But it's a wonderful point. But we've been convinced, unfortunately that.

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Speaker 5: It's a confidence gap. And the thing is, though I

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Speaker 5: Let's bring a couple things down. And so you know,

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Speaker 5: long time. That's all about living wage and raising mim

437
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Speaker 5: I'm a small business myself, so I own a coffee

438
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Speaker 5: shop in downtown the Roasting Plan Downtown Detroit, and so

439
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Speaker 5: what we our goal has always been to make sure

440
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Speaker 5: the young people or whoever's working there are paid paid

441
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Speaker 5: a level that matches a living wage. So you take

442
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Speaker 5: what they get paid, then hopefully you know people are nice.

443
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Speaker 5: Whenever you have a roasting plant, please tip your barristas.

444
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Speaker 5: And then the combination of that, what they're earning on

445
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Speaker 5: an hourly basis is a living wage. And that's what

446
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Speaker 5: we have to do for people. There's an organization called

447
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Speaker 5: One Fair Wage that I've been an ambassador for since

448
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Speaker 5: twenty sixteen. That's all about raising the minimum wage and

449
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Speaker 5: making sure that people get paid paid a living way.

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Speaker 5: So let's also talk about Voting Rights Act. The John

451
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Speaker 5: Lewis Voting Rights Act and John Lewis Voting Rights and

452
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Speaker 5: Advancement Act has not been able to pass through the Senate.

453
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Speaker 5: And we have to get that passed because what you're

454
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Speaker 5: seeing around the country is all of these state legislators

455
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Speaker 5: that have an interest to quell people's power and democracy,

456
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Speaker 5: jerrymandering and redistricting and doing all these things to restrict

457
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Speaker 5: voting rights. We got to get that. The Triple Blu

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Speaker 5: leadership in the state of Michigan has actually done a

459
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Speaker 5: great job. Within the state. We have great voting rights

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Speaker 5: forty days APPS and TEE nine days early voting, same

461
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Speaker 5: day of registration. That should be replicable federally and mandated.

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Speaker 5: I believe those types of things. The other thing is

463
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Speaker 5: the Proact again allowing unions to organize, allowing the National

464
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Speaker 5: Labor Relations Board to actually institute penalties on companies that

465
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Speaker 5: try to crush unions. We're down to six percent union

466
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Speaker 5: membership in the private sector. We need to undergird that.

467
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Speaker 5: And so when we environmental protection, let's talk about that.

468
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Speaker 5: We have to protect our resources. It's usually marginalized communities

469
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Speaker 5: get hit the worst by bad environment pollution, air pollution, lead,

470
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Speaker 5: clean water, clean water. We know the story about flint.

471
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Speaker 5: And then women's reproductive rights. We have to codify that,

472
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Speaker 5: you know, and we can listen, we can go on again.

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Speaker 3: We on all things like women's reproductive rights. They obviously

474
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Speaker 3: hit our community disproportionately. Yes, interesting research at the University

475
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Speaker 3: of Texas that raising the minimum wage is something we

476
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Speaker 3: should do morally integrity. As far as financial things like

477
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Speaker 3: extending the.

478
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Speaker 4: Child tax credit.

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Speaker 3: Yes, we have a big change coming with students.

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Speaker 4: Yes, payfriendous impact. Yes.

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Speaker 3: September thirtieth, midnight, the freeze is over. Talk to us

482
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Speaker 3: a little bit about that.

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Speaker 5: Particularly. Listen, student loan debt relief is something that's a

484
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Speaker 5: major issue for me. Sixty six percent of Black wealth

485
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Speaker 5: goes to paying down student loan debt. I mean, it's

486
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Speaker 5: a massive hit that nobody talks about, particularly for our community.

487
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Speaker 5: But beyond that, we're saddling young people with the cost

488
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Speaker 5: of something that is almost twenty x outpaced inflation over

489
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Speaker 5: the course of just a huge number of years. And

490
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Speaker 5: young people are who we have to invest in so

491
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Speaker 5: they can then create the new businesses of the future,

492
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Speaker 5: et cetera. Yet we're selling them with this debt. It's

493
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Speaker 5: not fair. I'm a huge proponent of free and quality

494
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Speaker 5: pre K through sixteen, see college. You know, education, whether

495
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Speaker 5: it's trade, high skill trade after high school is the

496
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Speaker 5: new high school meaning we you know, it's not a

497
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Speaker 5: People think, oh K through twelve, you should be able

498
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Speaker 5: to get that for free in a quality way. People

499
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Speaker 5: think that, No, it should be pre K through sixteen.

500
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Speaker 5: That's where we are. And we know that every dollar

501
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Speaker 5: invested in pre K pays you back eight dollars later

502
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Speaker 5: on in all sorts of wonderful ways, including not having

503
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Speaker 5: to incarcerate someone actually allowing them to be a productive

504
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Speaker 5: citizen where they pay taxes. Give me any other investment

505
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Speaker 5: that pays you bat eight x, you know, and I'm

506
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Speaker 5: with it right now. So why aren't we investing in

507
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Speaker 5: that way? Right? We're not because again, those pre K

508
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Speaker 5: students do not have lobbyists in Washington, right, and so

509
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Speaker 5: we have to be thinking about it. Student loan debt

510
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Speaker 5: relief is just a sticking your toe in it, but

511
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Speaker 5: it's a huge piece for me. People need to be

512
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Speaker 5: able to go to college or community college or high

513
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Speaker 5: skill trade for free. We need to invest in those people.

514
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Speaker 5: The money is there, you all. It is there. It's

515
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Speaker 5: just being spent in a different way.

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Speaker 1: Geez.

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Speaker 2: I see a lot of people too, because I was

518
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Speaker 2: looking before you came up here, and they're like, oh,

519
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Speaker 2: Hill Harper, justipant's free everything, and that's his whole thing,

520
00:25:00,560 --> 00:25:02,880
Speaker 2: just give it away for free. And I see people

521
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Speaker 2: also saying, okay, well, how so you think for college.

522
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Speaker 2: It should be community colleges and state colleges that should

523
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Speaker 2: be free your you should.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, okay, So let me let me give you.

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Speaker 5: Let me give you an example of miss Michigan specifically.

526
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Speaker 5: So there's a huge talent drain in Michigan. There's there's

527
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Speaker 5: over seventy colleges, universities, things in Michigan. Some of them

528
00:25:26,359 --> 00:25:30,920
Speaker 5: are the tops in the country. Fantastic, yet are many many,

529
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Speaker 5: many of the top graduates in the state leave, Okay,

530
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Speaker 5: and so how do you incentivize them to stay? This

531
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Speaker 5: is this is a way you solve two problems at once.

532
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Speaker 5: This is about efficient government. Because because I'll respond to

533
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Speaker 5: what people say, he'll want to give stuff aways for free. No, no, no,

534
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Speaker 5: it's not giving stuff away for free. It's about being efficient.

535
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Speaker 5: Here's an example. Oh, you go to the University of Michigan,

536
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Speaker 5: you do great, you graduate, it's free if you stay. Now,

537
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Speaker 5: if you if you're like Lebron, you take your talents

538
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Speaker 5: to South Sure, you go to Chicago, Austin, La Philadelphia, wherever.

539
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Speaker 5: Then you're gonna have to pay the state and the

540
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Speaker 5: federal government back for subsidizing your education because you decided

541
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Speaker 5: to take it somewhere else, okay, But if you stay

542
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Speaker 5: and you work there, you start paying taxes there, or

543
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Speaker 5: better yet, create a new business and create jobs, all

544
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Speaker 5: of those, all of the above, so you're creating the

545
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Speaker 5: right incentives. That's what government should. Government should do two

546
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Speaker 5: things at once. It should be a safety net for folks.

547
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Speaker 5: That's why we need universal health care as a safety net.

548
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Speaker 5: The number one cause of personal bankruptcies today is catastrophic

549
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Speaker 5: medical whether it's an injury or catastrophic health crisis. We

550
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Speaker 5: need that safety net there. So it's not we're paying

551
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Speaker 5: fifteen next for a vial of insulin than Canada. People

552
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Speaker 5: are choosing between prescription medicine and paying their mortgage. So

553
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Speaker 5: that has to stop. It has to be more efficient.

554
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Speaker 5: So government needs to be a safety net. We need

555
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Speaker 5: to provide quality public education so every kid has a

556
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Speaker 5: right to read.

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Speaker 2: And we talked about financial literacy before this interview started

558
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Speaker 2: and how Michigan is actually making it a requirement.

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Speaker 3: It's one of the I think became the fourteenth state

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Speaker 3: financial education and requirement. And finance isn't new to you.

561
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Speaker 3: You've been in the financial space, You've done trying to

562
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Speaker 3: do a lot about financial empowerment, So talk to us

563
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Speaker 3: about our financial.

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Speaker 5: Financial literacy is critical, particularly in this day and time

565
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Speaker 5: when money moves in a completely different, in many ways,

566
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Speaker 5: unseen way, and you can end up rolling up so

567
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Speaker 5: much debt so quickly in a way that you wouldn't

568
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Speaker 5: even know. But I want to take a step back.

569
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Speaker 5: I'm you know, having financial literacy curricula is great, but

570
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Speaker 5: if the kids can't read, it doesn't do you much good.

571
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Speaker 5: And right now we're in a situation with our public

572
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Speaker 5: education system that the incentives and the way it's structured

573
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Speaker 5: is way off. In other words, a lot of the

574
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Speaker 5: teachers that have been in administrators that been helping me

575
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Speaker 5: with my campaign keep talking about a lot of these

576
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Speaker 5: core curricular requirements and getting There's a documentary out there

577
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Speaker 5: called The Right to Read that my campaign is getting

578
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Speaker 5: behind trying to get people to see it, because at

579
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Speaker 5: the end of the day, there's an incentive based model

580
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Speaker 5: that is a core curriculum model that they end up

581
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Speaker 5: passing kids along because they say, who can't read? Who?

582
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Speaker 5: They say, if we don't pass this number along, they're

583
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Speaker 5: going to take funding away from us, which is the

584
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Speaker 5: exact opposite of what we should be doing Underperforming schools

585
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Speaker 5: should be getting more resources, okay, And so the point

586
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Speaker 5: is is that the structure and the incentives have to

587
00:28:25,480 --> 00:28:29,240
Speaker 5: be is so opposite of what it should be done exactly.

588
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Speaker 5: And so until we actually codify a right to read.

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Speaker 5: You know, the financial literacy piece is important because we

590
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Speaker 5: need financial literacy that's going to impact you the rest

591
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Speaker 5: of your life. But if the undergirds, if the foundational

592
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Speaker 5: elements still aren't there, it's still a shaky house. And

593
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Speaker 5: so we have to undergird these these real foundational elements

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Speaker 5: in my opinion, and that's what it is. And to

595
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Speaker 5: address that point, I really think that if we actually

596
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Speaker 5: created more efficiencies governmentally, we could lower the tax base

597
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Speaker 5: and still achieve the things I'm talking about, because we've

598
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Speaker 5: got to talk about the amount of waste and where

599
00:29:08,520 --> 00:29:11,920
Speaker 5: the money goes. Okay, it gets sucked up in so

600
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Speaker 5: many ways when you're talking about four hundred dollars hammers

601
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Speaker 5: in the military, because we've gotten to a point with

602
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Speaker 5: many of our structures that we just rubber stamp things

603
00:29:22,640 --> 00:29:26,600
Speaker 5: and rather than really pulling back the curtain and saying,

604
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Speaker 5: what's really going on, where's this money going? Because remember

605
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Speaker 5: y'all it's your money. It's your money, and it should

606
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Speaker 5: be your choice. And we have the technology to your

607
00:29:35,320 --> 00:29:40,000
Speaker 5: earlier point, we have the technology. Now why can government

608
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Speaker 5: introduce technology that allows people to create and see much

609
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Speaker 5: more transparency. The technology exists, yet it's not there. We

610
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Speaker 5: would solve a couple problems with that. Number One, we'd

611
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Speaker 5: have significant more government trust. Government trust is foundational to

612
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Speaker 5: operating democracy. If we started pulling back the veil, started

613
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Speaker 5: to see exactly where the money you put in and

614
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Speaker 5: where it's going, and you could actually participate in saying,

615
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Speaker 5: you know what, maybe I don't want all that, this

616
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Speaker 5: is the how much of the dollars I put in

617
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Speaker 5: you're going to this? I don't want them to go

618
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Speaker 5: to that to see where your money your choice, but

619
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Speaker 5: you can't see it right now, but you should be

620
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Speaker 5: able to see.

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Speaker 3: It and to see outcomes after COVID and the government

622
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Speaker 3: created all of those programs to support and particularly the

623
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Speaker 3: program to feed children, to make sure that all children

624
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Speaker 3: got breakfast and types of things, and now we're seeing

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Speaker 3: those repealed. Yes that I mean it was right there

626
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Speaker 3: that was having that leading to better educational outcomes, that

627
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Speaker 3: was leading to everything. It really was making those connections

628
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Speaker 3: and holding their politicians accountable.

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Speaker 5: And what about pulling money away from arts funding? I mean,

630
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Speaker 5: you know, we all know that in an idea economy,

631
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Speaker 5: being able to learn about arts, being able to learn music,

632
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Speaker 5: all of these different things that create different pathways the

633
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Speaker 5: funding has as this appeared out of that and watch this.

634
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Speaker 5: The other piece is is that federal government funding running

635
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Speaker 5: through the States is a is a question mark too

636
00:31:07,600 --> 00:31:10,080
Speaker 5: that we need to start pulling the onion back on.

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Speaker 5: For instance, I'm big into solving the affordable housing crisis.

638
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Speaker 5: I was talking to somebody who was doing affordable housing,

639
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Speaker 5: and he was making the point that he just did

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Speaker 5: something in Pontiac, Michigan that cost forty million dollars. And

641
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Speaker 5: he said, if it wasn't for all the government red

642
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Speaker 5: tape to do affordable housing, it could have cost anywhere

643
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Speaker 5: between seventeen and twenty I mean, I could, he could

644
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Speaker 5: have built two of the same thing. Exactly can't even

645
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Speaker 5: afford He can't even afford to build affordable housing. That's

646
00:31:38,600 --> 00:31:41,240
Speaker 5: exactly right, because he was saying the way it's the

647
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Speaker 5: way it's structured, is that he has to go out

648
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Speaker 5: and take the tax credit, go out and hire all

649
00:31:46,280 --> 00:31:48,479
Speaker 5: these you know, deal makers, to go out then and

650
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Speaker 5: sell the tax credit at a discount because it's not

651
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Speaker 5: worth dollar for dollar to somebody who's buying it and

652
00:31:54,320 --> 00:31:57,440
Speaker 5: then sells it. Takes that to then create a deal

653
00:31:57,480 --> 00:31:59,720
Speaker 5: where he uses that money after selling the tax credit

654
00:31:59,760 --> 00:32:02,240
Speaker 5: for the out payment to get the loan to execute

655
00:32:02,240 --> 00:32:04,600
Speaker 5: the thing. Obviously there's interest running on the loan. If

656
00:32:04,600 --> 00:32:07,640
Speaker 5: the government would just do a direct investment, that's a

657
00:32:07,680 --> 00:32:10,400
Speaker 5: seventeen million dollar project that he could put up.

658
00:32:10,520 --> 00:32:12,640
Speaker 2: And that's a crisis that we're definitely having right now

659
00:32:12,680 --> 00:32:15,360
Speaker 2: as we're seeing even talking about the millennials and how

660
00:32:15,360 --> 00:32:17,600
Speaker 2: they're not going to be able to afford to buy

661
00:32:17,600 --> 00:32:20,400
Speaker 2: houses right now because the interest rates are so high, exact,

662
00:32:20,440 --> 00:32:22,400
Speaker 2: and there's not as much inventory on the market because

663
00:32:22,400 --> 00:32:23,600
Speaker 2: people don't want to sell right now.

664
00:32:23,680 --> 00:32:24,000
Speaker 5: That's right.

665
00:32:24,040 --> 00:32:26,960
Speaker 1: It's a difficult time for you being a single dad.

666
00:32:27,160 --> 00:32:30,040
Speaker 2: I want to know how that also affects you and

667
00:32:30,080 --> 00:32:33,400
Speaker 2: your aspirations. How old is your son now, seven seven

668
00:32:33,480 --> 00:32:34,120
Speaker 2: years old?

669
00:32:34,280 --> 00:32:34,560
Speaker 4: Yes?

670
00:32:34,800 --> 00:32:36,800
Speaker 2: Yes, So I want to talk about how that played

671
00:32:36,800 --> 00:32:38,760
Speaker 2: a role in you deciding that you wanted to actually

672
00:32:39,160 --> 00:32:39,680
Speaker 2: round percent.

673
00:32:39,720 --> 00:32:41,440
Speaker 5: It's been a big deal for me and it's been

674
00:32:41,480 --> 00:32:45,480
Speaker 5: the biggest thing. That's that's that's that that's the reason

675
00:32:45,520 --> 00:32:47,719
Speaker 5: why it took me so long to make the decision

676
00:32:47,760 --> 00:32:49,440
Speaker 5: of whether I would do this or not. Honest thinking

677
00:32:49,440 --> 00:32:52,840
Speaker 5: about him. As a single parent, any single parent that's listening,

678
00:32:52,920 --> 00:32:56,880
Speaker 5: you know, your time is the most valuable thing you have.

679
00:32:57,120 --> 00:33:01,560
Speaker 5: And so I had to really think, is it more

680
00:33:01,640 --> 00:33:07,160
Speaker 5: valuable for my son to see me going for something

681
00:33:07,200 --> 00:33:09,480
Speaker 5: that only eleven black folks in the history of this

682
00:33:09,480 --> 00:33:12,760
Speaker 5: country have ever achieved, or me being able to tuck

683
00:33:12,840 --> 00:33:14,600
Speaker 5: him into bed every single night and pick him up

684
00:33:14,640 --> 00:33:17,040
Speaker 5: drop him off at school. Because obviously, if I'm running

685
00:33:17,040 --> 00:33:18,840
Speaker 5: and I'm going all over the state, you know, I

686
00:33:18,920 --> 00:33:21,080
Speaker 5: dropped him off at school this morning, and then I

687
00:33:21,200 --> 00:33:24,000
Speaker 5: rushed to the airport to fly here to do this,

688
00:33:24,280 --> 00:33:26,200
Speaker 5: you know, this sit down with you and do an

689
00:33:26,240 --> 00:33:29,120
Speaker 5: event later and then and then I'm out tonight back

690
00:33:29,160 --> 00:33:30,760
Speaker 5: and I'm going to take him to school tomorrow morning.

691
00:33:30,800 --> 00:33:32,120
Speaker 5: And then I got to go somewhere else, and so,

692
00:33:32,560 --> 00:33:35,920
Speaker 5: you know, and that's why the launch video I did

693
00:33:36,080 --> 00:33:38,920
Speaker 5: is called deer Pierce because it's a lawn. The video

694
00:33:39,040 --> 00:33:42,880
Speaker 5: basically goes into the decision to run, and I hope

695
00:33:42,880 --> 00:33:45,840
Speaker 5: anybody who's who's who's listening watches that video because this

696
00:33:45,960 --> 00:33:49,560
Speaker 5: is about any Every single parent knows exactly what I'm

697
00:33:49,560 --> 00:33:52,720
Speaker 5: talking about when you're making sacrifices, because because you're saying

698
00:33:52,760 --> 00:33:55,040
Speaker 5: what's going to be the best outcome. And I really

699
00:33:55,040 --> 00:33:58,640
Speaker 5: believe that him go into picket lines with me, him

700
00:33:58,680 --> 00:34:01,560
Speaker 5: seeing me work so hard to achieve something that the

701
00:34:02,040 --> 00:34:05,640
Speaker 5: outcome is uncertain, that will be more valuable to him

702
00:34:05,640 --> 00:34:08,880
Speaker 5: in the long run than this, you know, in this

703
00:34:08,920 --> 00:34:11,640
Speaker 5: period of time. And so and it's just you know, listen,

704
00:34:11,680 --> 00:34:14,160
Speaker 5: I'm running for office for the next you know year

705
00:34:14,239 --> 00:34:16,840
Speaker 5: and change, right if I if I'm fortunate enough that

706
00:34:17,280 --> 00:34:20,120
Speaker 5: folks helped me get the Democratic nomination and then the

707
00:34:20,160 --> 00:34:24,200
Speaker 5: election that's in August August sixth, and then the general

708
00:34:24,239 --> 00:34:28,600
Speaker 5: election will be in November of next year. You know this,

709
00:34:28,600 --> 00:34:31,840
Speaker 5: this kind of full time twenty four to seven campaign

710
00:34:31,880 --> 00:34:35,520
Speaker 5: thing is going to be temporary. But he's getting to

711
00:34:35,560 --> 00:34:38,600
Speaker 5: witness someone work extremely hard. Because the one thing I've

712
00:34:38,600 --> 00:34:42,359
Speaker 5: always said about me is that I may not have

713
00:34:43,360 --> 00:34:45,560
Speaker 5: as much money and resources as the other folks, but

714
00:34:45,640 --> 00:34:48,680
Speaker 5: nobody will ever outwork me. No One's ever outworked me

715
00:34:48,719 --> 00:34:50,759
Speaker 5: at my life in anything I've ever done.

716
00:34:50,920 --> 00:34:53,320
Speaker 2: I'm just going to tell you he'll pulled up here alone.

717
00:34:53,480 --> 00:34:55,200
Speaker 2: I was like, Hey, who's with you so we can

718
00:34:55,239 --> 00:34:57,319
Speaker 2: put them on the list. He's like, I'm solo, dolo.

719
00:34:59,160 --> 00:35:01,319
Speaker 3: I was pierced. I grew up with the father who

720
00:35:01,360 --> 00:35:04,279
Speaker 3: was a politician. My father got the first it was

721
00:35:04,320 --> 00:35:07,000
Speaker 3: the first black to get the Democratic nomination for Congress

722
00:35:07,080 --> 00:35:08,200
Speaker 3: in the state of Connecticut.

723
00:35:08,280 --> 00:35:08,520
Speaker 5: Wow.

724
00:35:08,760 --> 00:35:11,800
Speaker 3: And he ran the biggest anti poverty agency in the state,

725
00:35:12,680 --> 00:35:16,800
Speaker 3: a very high profile congressional campaign that caught President Carter's attention,

726
00:35:17,160 --> 00:35:19,440
Speaker 3: made him the first black economic advisor.

727
00:35:19,560 --> 00:35:20,200
Speaker 5: That's incredible.

728
00:35:20,239 --> 00:35:25,240
Speaker 3: He struggled with everything that you were talking about and

729
00:35:25,360 --> 00:35:29,759
Speaker 3: seeing everything that my father did and how authentically he

730
00:35:30,480 --> 00:35:33,839
Speaker 3: that he wanted to Essentially, he was make the world

731
00:35:33,880 --> 00:35:36,880
Speaker 3: a better place for me will mean everything. That's you,

732
00:35:37,880 --> 00:35:39,399
Speaker 3: I mean, it will mean everything to him.

733
00:35:39,560 --> 00:35:42,920
Speaker 1: And to that point, look, Gray Stacy turned out too.

734
00:35:43,000 --> 00:35:47,759
Speaker 5: I think you're amazing, and we're standing on we're standing

735
00:35:47,800 --> 00:35:50,640
Speaker 5: on those shoulders and that's beautiful. And that's the one

736
00:35:50,640 --> 00:35:55,239
Speaker 5: thing I'll say to everybody is that I promise you

737
00:35:55,840 --> 00:35:59,080
Speaker 5: that if you support my campaign, are given to my campaign,

738
00:35:59,239 --> 00:36:02,839
Speaker 5: I will your investment will pay you back because we

739
00:36:03,000 --> 00:36:07,360
Speaker 5: need leadership that is new that's not beholden and the

740
00:36:07,400 --> 00:36:10,359
Speaker 5: fact that learning from folks that have come before us

741
00:36:10,760 --> 00:36:13,560
Speaker 5: and having an opportunity in a fifty to fifty Senate

742
00:36:13,640 --> 00:36:18,040
Speaker 5: context to be able to fight, that's what this moment's about.

743
00:36:18,520 --> 00:36:21,960
Speaker 5: That's what this is. fIF fifty to fifty is everything,

744
00:36:22,000 --> 00:36:26,560
Speaker 5: because then the party doesn't control the people, the individual.

745
00:36:26,719 --> 00:36:29,520
Speaker 5: That's why you see Joe Manchin doing what he's been

746
00:36:29,560 --> 00:36:32,839
Speaker 5: able to do, and that is a different type of fight.

747
00:36:33,440 --> 00:36:37,720
Speaker 5: And so you know, we got to understand paying people

748
00:36:37,760 --> 00:36:40,480
Speaker 5: back on their investment of both their dollars and investing

749
00:36:40,480 --> 00:36:43,439
Speaker 5: in the campaign and their vote is something that I'm

750
00:36:43,680 --> 00:36:46,440
Speaker 5: very serious about and want to and want to execute.

751
00:36:47,040 --> 00:36:49,719
Speaker 1: Well, Hill Harper, Listen, we have a fight ahead of us.

752
00:36:49,840 --> 00:36:52,040
Speaker 5: We gotta fight, y'all. It is a real fight.

753
00:36:52,120 --> 00:36:53,800
Speaker 1: And he's not a mud slinger, So I don't know

754
00:36:53,880 --> 00:36:54,400
Speaker 1: what's gonna end.

755
00:36:54,520 --> 00:36:56,040
Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't know. You guys got to tell me

756
00:36:56,080 --> 00:36:58,560
Speaker 5: what to do. I'm not a musslinger. They keep slinging

757
00:36:58,640 --> 00:37:01,960
Speaker 5: un of me, and I guess I'm listening.

758
00:37:01,320 --> 00:37:04,520
Speaker 2: About like it's really really difficult just to see somebody

759
00:37:04,520 --> 00:37:07,760
Speaker 2: who has genuine good intentions have to deal with something

760
00:37:07,800 --> 00:37:11,640
Speaker 2: like this because you would be naive to think that

761
00:37:12,360 --> 00:37:13,920
Speaker 2: certain things aren't gonna happen.

762
00:37:14,239 --> 00:37:18,280
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, it's gonna be. It's it's it's wild. But listen,

763
00:37:18,320 --> 00:37:22,120
Speaker 5: if the people are with me and and and and

764
00:37:22,440 --> 00:37:24,480
Speaker 5: God's with me, I mean, that's the thing. That's the

765
00:37:24,480 --> 00:37:28,080
Speaker 5: beautiful thing is that you know, I have faith that

766
00:37:28,760 --> 00:37:32,200
Speaker 5: when you do the right thing and you work as

767
00:37:32,239 --> 00:37:34,920
Speaker 5: hard as you can, then the right things will happen.

768
00:37:35,520 --> 00:37:38,360
Speaker 5: And and that's and that's the beautiful thing. And I

769
00:37:38,360 --> 00:37:40,480
Speaker 5: don't know how, I don't know in what way, because

770
00:37:40,719 --> 00:37:44,600
Speaker 5: literally the establishment is trying to stop me the whole.

771
00:37:45,160 --> 00:37:48,000
Speaker 5: And these are folks I carried water for the Democratic

772
00:37:48,000 --> 00:37:51,800
Speaker 5: Party going all over the country, being a surrogate. I've

773
00:37:51,880 --> 00:37:54,680
Speaker 5: done voter registration all over the country. I've shown up

774
00:37:54,719 --> 00:37:59,319
Speaker 5: for their candidates historically, and the fact that they are

775
00:37:59,400 --> 00:38:03,319
Speaker 5: working so hard to stop me has made me really

776
00:38:03,320 --> 00:38:05,480
Speaker 5: take a step back and say, well, what am I

777
00:38:05,640 --> 00:38:12,719
Speaker 5: representing that's so threatening to the establishment. And hopefully that

778
00:38:12,840 --> 00:38:16,239
Speaker 5: encourages people to support because there's something going on.

779
00:38:16,480 --> 00:38:18,399
Speaker 2: And I always think it's important for people who are

780
00:38:18,400 --> 00:38:22,000
Speaker 2: not part of the establishment that's been around for decades

781
00:38:22,040 --> 00:38:26,400
Speaker 2: and decades with fresh ideas, with wanting to actually just

782
00:38:26,440 --> 00:38:27,000
Speaker 2: do the right thing.

783
00:38:27,040 --> 00:38:28,640
Speaker 1: And somebody who's a small business.

784
00:38:28,400 --> 00:38:31,719
Speaker 2: Owner, who's a union member, you know, who understands these

785
00:38:31,760 --> 00:38:33,200
Speaker 2: things from the people's point of view.

786
00:38:33,200 --> 00:38:33,920
Speaker 1: I think that's important.

787
00:38:33,920 --> 00:38:36,799
Speaker 5: A single father, exact, all of those things are not

788
00:38:36,840 --> 00:38:39,680
Speaker 5: represented in the US Center right now. There's no union member,

789
00:38:39,960 --> 00:38:42,719
Speaker 5: very few small business owners, and there's nobody who has

790
00:38:42,760 --> 00:38:46,080
Speaker 5: a school age child. And so how does that impact

791
00:38:46,080 --> 00:38:48,480
Speaker 5: the way they make decisions? I mean so, but most

792
00:38:48,560 --> 00:38:52,359
Speaker 5: people out there are represent their workers. There aren't high

793
00:38:52,360 --> 00:38:55,799
Speaker 5: paid workers, they're regular workers, and their parents, in many

794
00:38:55,800 --> 00:38:58,440
Speaker 5: cases single parents, and they're trying to do the right

795
00:38:58,480 --> 00:38:59,920
Speaker 5: thing for their kids. They're trying to figure it out,

796
00:39:00,000 --> 00:39:01,800
Speaker 5: and they're just trying maybe they want to start a business.

797
00:39:02,000 --> 00:39:04,920
Speaker 5: These are things that I think are critical. And folks

798
00:39:04,960 --> 00:39:07,000
Speaker 5: need representation in the room. They need people that are

799
00:39:07,000 --> 00:39:08,600
Speaker 5: going to fight for them. And I want to be

800
00:39:08,640 --> 00:39:09,440
Speaker 5: that person.

801
00:39:09,200 --> 00:39:10,320
Speaker 1: And people who are accessible.

802
00:39:10,400 --> 00:39:12,160
Speaker 2: One of the main things that is always important to

803
00:39:12,200 --> 00:39:15,680
Speaker 2: me is can I reach out Because we're never going

804
00:39:15,680 --> 00:39:19,719
Speaker 2: to agree with with anything, uh with everything that anybody, Yeah,

805
00:39:20,480 --> 00:39:22,319
Speaker 2: but can I have a conversation?

806
00:39:22,560 --> 00:39:25,200
Speaker 1: Can I be involved? And I think that's important too.

807
00:39:25,520 --> 00:39:30,080
Speaker 5: I think that's critical and and that's why I roll

808
00:39:30,120 --> 00:39:33,239
Speaker 5: the way I roll. People say I'm too accessible. They

809
00:39:33,239 --> 00:39:39,400
Speaker 5: say that, man, exactly, But that's the thing. It's like

810
00:39:40,280 --> 00:39:43,239
Speaker 5: yesterday I was at the Lion's tailgate and it was

811
00:39:43,320 --> 00:39:45,879
Speaker 5: crazy walking around. It was great, and people are like, man,

812
00:39:46,000 --> 00:39:48,200
Speaker 5: you just out here to know security. I'm like, man,

813
00:39:48,960 --> 00:39:52,879
Speaker 5: I don't need security because we got love. No, no,

814
00:39:53,040 --> 00:39:55,680
Speaker 5: it's real, it's real. I got love in my heart.

815
00:39:55,719 --> 00:39:57,600
Speaker 5: People got love in our heart for me, and that's

816
00:39:57,640 --> 00:40:00,560
Speaker 5: the beautiful thing about it. And so know, and you're right.

817
00:40:00,600 --> 00:40:02,839
Speaker 5: Sometimes you can run into some people that are unstable whatever.

818
00:40:02,880 --> 00:40:04,520
Speaker 1: Everybody does not have love in their heart.

819
00:40:04,560 --> 00:40:07,359
Speaker 5: I just say, yeah, everybody, but listen, I don't live

820
00:40:07,400 --> 00:40:07,880
Speaker 5: that way.

821
00:40:08,400 --> 00:40:10,360
Speaker 1: That's the thing, a friend, I.

822
00:40:14,280 --> 00:40:20,040
Speaker 5: Live. I live in a way that I believe that

823
00:40:20,239 --> 00:40:24,520
Speaker 5: love wins. I believe that empathy wins. I believe that

824
00:40:24,680 --> 00:40:29,279
Speaker 5: being there for somebody and supporting winds. And sure there's

825
00:40:29,320 --> 00:40:32,520
Speaker 5: situations where people show up they got ill intent, but

826
00:40:32,600 --> 00:40:35,240
Speaker 5: I still believe because I have to live that way

827
00:40:35,480 --> 00:40:38,120
Speaker 5: because as soon as I let them start changing me,

828
00:40:38,840 --> 00:40:41,560
Speaker 5: then I know my magic's gone. Because all my magic

829
00:40:41,719 --> 00:40:44,759
Speaker 5: is is being me and being that positive. I go

830
00:40:44,840 --> 00:40:46,759
Speaker 5: up to everybody and hug them. You're right, somebody could

831
00:40:46,880 --> 00:40:48,399
Speaker 5: pull a shank out and stab me in the gut,

832
00:40:48,440 --> 00:40:51,160
Speaker 5: because I'm not looking for a shank I'm not looking

833
00:40:51,160 --> 00:40:54,320
Speaker 5: for them to shank me. And so yes, that could happen.

834
00:40:54,680 --> 00:40:58,560
Speaker 5: But I have to live my life in a courageous

835
00:40:58,840 --> 00:41:02,200
Speaker 5: way because that's my and it's always been my magic.

836
00:41:02,239 --> 00:41:05,160
Speaker 5: And if I let them make me a little hesitant,

837
00:41:05,200 --> 00:41:07,359
Speaker 5: a little fearful, I'm not scared to go into any

838
00:41:07,400 --> 00:41:10,360
Speaker 5: neighborhood and people like, man, you could be comfortble in

839
00:41:10,360 --> 00:41:11,920
Speaker 5: the White House, you be comfortable on the block. I

840
00:41:11,920 --> 00:41:14,440
Speaker 5: can be comfortable everywhere because I got love for people,

841
00:41:14,800 --> 00:41:16,680
Speaker 5: and so I'm not afraid to go any power.

842
00:41:17,160 --> 00:41:19,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, and then reminding people of their power. And I

843
00:41:19,680 --> 00:41:22,400
Speaker 3: know there's people out there in Detroit, and again I repeat,

844
00:41:22,480 --> 00:41:25,560
Speaker 3: you have the biggest Black population of any city in

845
00:41:25,600 --> 00:41:31,040
Speaker 3: the nation. That's representation less vote, So get out you

846
00:41:31,239 --> 00:41:31,960
Speaker 3: have the power.

847
00:41:32,320 --> 00:41:35,080
Speaker 2: The main thing is people take for granted. They might think, oh, well,

848
00:41:35,080 --> 00:41:37,160
Speaker 2: they're not going to vote anyway, so who cares about

849
00:41:37,560 --> 00:41:39,840
Speaker 2: addressing this community. But when you get out there and

850
00:41:39,920 --> 00:41:41,960
Speaker 2: vote and can come together and even the money cakes

851
00:41:42,080 --> 00:41:42,640
Speaker 2: huge change.

852
00:41:42,760 --> 00:41:45,319
Speaker 5: I think they think that Hill Harboro he's super rich.

853
00:41:45,360 --> 00:41:47,520
Speaker 5: He could just write a check for his own campaign.

854
00:41:47,560 --> 00:41:49,759
Speaker 5: I heard somebody say that. I'm like, yo, I'm an

855
00:41:49,840 --> 00:41:53,040
Speaker 5: actor who's been working you know this, you know you see, oh,

856
00:41:53,080 --> 00:41:55,200
Speaker 5: you make twenty million dollars a movie. I'm like, come on, dude,

857
00:41:55,280 --> 00:41:57,200
Speaker 5: I mean, you know that's not the way the normal

858
00:41:57,360 --> 00:41:59,680
Speaker 5: act the movie.

859
00:42:00,840 --> 00:42:04,480
Speaker 2: People mad at Oprah and the Rock for raising money

860
00:42:04,480 --> 00:42:07,239
Speaker 2: for the Mally wildfires. They donated five million dollars to

861
00:42:07,280 --> 00:42:09,560
Speaker 2: start the fund. But then people were like, well, why

862
00:42:09,560 --> 00:42:11,480
Speaker 2: didn't they just pay the whole thing? Why did they start,

863
00:42:12,040 --> 00:42:14,239
Speaker 2: you know, a fundraiser. But they want to make sure

864
00:42:14,280 --> 00:42:17,319
Speaker 2: that they're able to support people and listen, they're not

865
00:42:17,360 --> 00:42:20,319
Speaker 2: obligated to even do that, but bringing attention and awareness

866
00:42:20,800 --> 00:42:22,960
Speaker 2: to something with such a huge thing. So no, I

867
00:42:22,960 --> 00:42:26,399
Speaker 2: feel like, you know, the support of people donating five

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Speaker 2: dollars ten dollars.

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Speaker 5: It goes a long to have a lot, even if

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Speaker 5: it's two dollars. And someone says, Hell, someone came up

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Speaker 5: to me and they said, listen, I'm gonna go down

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Speaker 5: my uh the network in my phone. I'm just gonna

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Speaker 5: send the link and just ask them to give two dollars.

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Speaker 5: I'm like, you that's a blessing one hundred people. All

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Speaker 5: of a sudden that that turns into something, because that's

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Speaker 5: what a movement start with people and small dollar donations

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Speaker 5: that spread and then all of a sudden it becomes

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Speaker 5: big enough to actually because we don't have a history

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Speaker 5: of political giving in our community. They are a community

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Speaker 5: He's out there that have been able to They've been

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Speaker 5: able to see the return on their investment, so they're like, listen,

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Speaker 5: every time somebody that supports me my ideals runs off

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Speaker 5: the jump, I'm giving them thirty three hundred dollars, which

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Speaker 5: is like the max primary. There are communities where they

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Speaker 5: do that. We don't have that history in our community,

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Speaker 5: and that's okay, but we can still do two dollars,

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Speaker 5: five dollars, ten dollars and that's huge. So please go

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Speaker 5: to Hill Harper dot com.

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Speaker 4: And you're gonna say, where can people donate to.

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Speaker 5: Hill Harper dot com backslash donat or just go to

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Speaker 5: Hill Harper dot com. It will pop up. You know,

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Speaker 5: two dollars given five dollars every month for the next

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Speaker 5: eleven months is huge. We are building a movement, y'all.

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Speaker 5: He'll Harper dot com.

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Speaker 2: I guess he does have fundraiser events too, because I

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Speaker 2: know you have a lot coming up, so you guys

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Speaker 2: make sure you go if you want to meet him,

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Speaker 2: see him in person.

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Speaker 5: It can see me on the streets of New York

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Speaker 5: by myself. If I'm in New York, see me on

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Speaker 5: the streets a detarate by myself, Streets of Pontiac, streets

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Speaker 5: of Grand Rafts, streets of Flint. I was in Flint yesterday.

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Speaker 5: There there lost my voice. I was at a church.

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Speaker 5: If Flint and I voicego, so I love, love every everybody.

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Speaker 5: Thank you so much for the support.

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Speaker 1: All right, Hill Harper, thank you so much.

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Speaker 5: Way up