WEBVTT - My Grind is Too Coarse

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<v Speaker 1>Still too sour. Apparently my grind is too coarse. It's

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<v Speaker 1>one more thing.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm strong and getty. One more thing.

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<v Speaker 1>That's the sort of lingo we throw around, those of

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<v Speaker 1>us who make our espresso at home with our fancy machines.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh no, and you're going to tell us of how

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<v Speaker 2>it is which leads me to this, just the whole

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<v Speaker 2>concept of these sorts of things which I want to

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<v Speaker 2>talk about a little bit.

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<v Speaker 1>As my son went and watched a blacksmith friend of

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<v Speaker 1>mine who does blacksmithing. He's a forger, so I'm a

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<v Speaker 1>home espresso connoisseur. He's a forger. That sort of thing.

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<v Speaker 1>But a little set up to that is this comedy

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<v Speaker 1>thing I came across of called the most hipster man

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<v Speaker 1>in the world.

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<v Speaker 3>He listens to bands that broke up before they formed.

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<v Speaker 3>He gentrified a taco stand by asking for ioli. He

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<v Speaker 3>grows his own beard oil. His bicycle has no breaks

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<v Speaker 3>because stopping is for sellouts. He smokes a pipe, but

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<v Speaker 3>only indoors, and only while listening to Mongolian throat singing.

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<v Speaker 3>He gave his baby a typewriter as a toy. He

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<v Speaker 3>makes his own soap but never uses it. He once

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<v Speaker 3>ghosted someone for not knowing what a modular synth is.

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<v Speaker 3>His apartment is furnished with upcycled milk crates from dairies

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<v Speaker 3>that went bankrupt in the eighties. He once got into

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<v Speaker 3>a bar fight over a fleet Fox's lyric. He refuses

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<v Speaker 3>to use Google Maps. He gets directions from indie baristas instead.

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<v Speaker 3>He discovered kale before it was a super food. Okay,

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<v Speaker 3>that mass he denies knowing it.

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<v Speaker 1>That makes the point that sort of he grows his

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<v Speaker 1>own beard oil.

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<v Speaker 2>He's the most hipster man in the world.

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<v Speaker 1>So I was thinking about this over the weekends, and

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<v Speaker 1>I got my fancy espression machine that I'm struggling to

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<v Speaker 1>figure out how to use.

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<v Speaker 4>God is.

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<v Speaker 1>A long run, it'll be cheaper than the pods. The

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<v Speaker 1>pods are actually kind of expensive, you know, if you

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<v Speaker 1>use curried pods and espresso pods. You add it up.

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<v Speaker 1>However much coffee you drink a fair amount of money.

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<v Speaker 1>It'll be cheaper in the long run to do it

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<v Speaker 1>this way. But I was struggling with this thing. I

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<v Speaker 1>made my first cup of coffee at like midnight on

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<v Speaker 1>Friday night. I made decalf to make sure I wouldn't

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<v Speaker 1>be able to note it was so good. I thought,

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<v Speaker 1>this is awesome. I'm glad I did. This is the

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<v Speaker 1>best cup of coffee I've ever had. Then the next morning,

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<v Speaker 1>when I tried to make caffeinated stuff, It's like, this

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<v Speaker 1>is horrible. If this was the circle k, I'd asked

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<v Speaker 1>for my money back. So and that's what I've been

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<v Speaker 1>dealing with all the week. And then you get into

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<v Speaker 1>the how course is your grind? And is the drip?

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<v Speaker 1>How many seconds does it take to make your espresso?

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<v Speaker 1>Because between twelve and fifteen seconds is ideal? More than

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<v Speaker 1>that or less than that? Blah blah blah blah blah,

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<v Speaker 1>all that sort of If you'd said, how coarse is

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<v Speaker 1>your grind?

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<v Speaker 2>What am I talking about? I might have said skateboarding

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<v Speaker 2>could have been yeah, yeah, yeah, but it's coffee talking coffee.

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<v Speaker 1>But eist And there are all these rabbit holes of

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<v Speaker 1>all these different sorts of things and how long you beans,

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<v Speaker 1>how long between roasting and when you use them? I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>just all this different sort of stuff, right, But I

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<v Speaker 1>was really digging it as something to do and just

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<v Speaker 1>focus on or whatever and try to perfect. And then

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<v Speaker 1>I got this friend who he always wears a T

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<v Speaker 1>shirt that says something about being a blacksmith, blacksmith's do

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<v Speaker 1>it with an apron or whatever. And I asked him

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<v Speaker 1>about it one time. He said, yeah, that's my hobby.

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<v Speaker 1>That's what I did. And I said, well, my son

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<v Speaker 1>really loves it. Anytime we're at a fair or something

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<v Speaker 1>where they got a blacksmith making stuff, he always wants

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<v Speaker 1>to watch it. And I said, if you're ever doing that,

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<v Speaker 1>i'd love it. He said, oh, I have kids come

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<v Speaker 1>over all the time. I love sharing the craft. So well,

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<v Speaker 1>that's great, he texted me. On Saturday morning, we went

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<v Speaker 1>over to his house. He's got this big setup in

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<v Speaker 1>his garage and he's got the super hot whatever you

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<v Speaker 1>call that piece of machinery you stick the metal in

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<v Speaker 1>to get it two thousand degrees so you could actually

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<v Speaker 1>mold it with a hammer and everything like that, and

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<v Speaker 1>he started blacksmith and some stuff and we are there

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<v Speaker 1>for a couple hours and Henry really really enjoyed it.

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<v Speaker 1>I enjoyed watching it. But it's a very hipster sort

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<v Speaker 1>of thing in a hipster sort of town that he's

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<v Speaker 1>making stuff as forging his own steel or whatever. They're Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it is kind.

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<v Speaker 2>Of funny how many of the hipster conceits and you know,

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<v Speaker 2>to each their own that sounds cool to me. It's

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<v Speaker 2>very zen. I'm sure it's a hobby. But how many

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<v Speaker 2>of the hipster conceits are old timey, like the whole

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<v Speaker 2>steam punk thing. Yeah, you look like, you know, you

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<v Speaker 2>just came off the prairie in eighteen forty. It's just

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<v Speaker 2>it's old timey as hip.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I was talking to him, and over the week,

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<v Speaker 1>she's really into sewing her own clothes to the most

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<v Speaker 1>she can. You know, he can't do everything because who's

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<v Speaker 1>got the time, but as many things she can, she

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<v Speaker 1>sews her own clothes. And I was just wondering about

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<v Speaker 1>that because I've mocked this sort of hipster stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>He grows his own beard oil.

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<v Speaker 1>I've mocked this sort of hipster stuff so much. But

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<v Speaker 1>as I was making this coffee, I mean, there's way

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<v Speaker 1>worse things I could be doing with my time than

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<v Speaker 1>trying to figure out how to perfect my espresso beans.

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<v Speaker 1>Or him with his blacksmithing and his garage and everything

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<v Speaker 1>like that. He's an it in a college it guy

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<v Speaker 1>in a college town, right. Yeah, he actually is hoping

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<v Speaker 1>to get good enough at the blacksmithing and be able

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<v Speaker 1>to sell enough stuff that he can quit his it job.

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<v Speaker 1>He just he finds it so much more rewarding. And

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<v Speaker 1>that's the sort of a thing with the coffee. He

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<v Speaker 1>finds it so much more rewarding, he said. Spending a

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<v Speaker 1>couple of hours doing that blacksmith stuff and making something

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<v Speaker 1>with a hammer and bending it with the you know,

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<v Speaker 1>the physical part of it and everything like that. Then

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<v Speaker 1>he gets from his it job, and I got I

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<v Speaker 1>was feeling rewarded by, you know, making my grind finer

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<v Speaker 1>and getting the temperature a little hotter and tasting it

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<v Speaker 1>no too much, Just just that sort of thing. I

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<v Speaker 1>told the guy. My example of when we first got

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<v Speaker 1>on on the second farm that we lived in, I

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<v Speaker 1>was out in this back pasture and I'd set up

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<v Speaker 1>the giant sprinkler system when I was watering that pasture.

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<v Speaker 1>I had such a feeling of satisfaction from that I

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<v Speaker 1>rarely get in life. It's some sort of you know,

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<v Speaker 1>caveman style. You're able to support yourself, You're able to

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<v Speaker 1>be self sufficient. I don't know exactly where it comes from, right,

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<v Speaker 1>figuring out how to make your own coffee, figuring out

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<v Speaker 1>how to Blacksmith figuring out how to water or field.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know, but there's something that goes on there

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<v Speaker 1>that doesn't happen with a lot of the modern crap

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<v Speaker 1>we do.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, you know, we could take a turn into AI

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<v Speaker 2>and how removing people's sense of purpose is going to

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<v Speaker 2>be terrible, but it occurs to me. I know, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>I got a pretty good handful of UH friends and

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<v Speaker 2>golf buddies who are still working, and a pretty good

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<v Speaker 2>handful that are retired, and a lot of the retired

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<v Speaker 2>guys who seem happy. They develop passions like that. Like

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<v Speaker 2>my buddy Rob is like a master gardener, including orchids.

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<v Speaker 2>He raises orchids, just these exquisite flowers that you gotta

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<v Speaker 2>know what you're doing and do it very very carefully.

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<v Speaker 2>So yeah, you can identify what what trips your trigger,

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<v Speaker 2>but it's absolutely undeniable. What you said. You get a

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<v Speaker 2>feeling of satisfaction from that sort of thing. That's just joy.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like deep in UKD. You look like you agree,

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, totally.

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<v Speaker 5>And I mean my dad's come on this show a

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<v Speaker 5>few times and he's had an amazing background, you know,

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<v Speaker 5>paramedic and balmer, judge. One of his favorite things to

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<v Speaker 5>do on the planet right now is he makes killer

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<v Speaker 5>sourdough bread. Yeah, and so every now, like probably twice

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<v Speaker 5>a week, I'll get a picture from my mom of

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<v Speaker 5>him with his we call them Larry's loaves, with this

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<v Speaker 5>little loaf of bread that he made, and that's like

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<v Speaker 5>one of his favorite things on the planet to do.

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<v Speaker 1>That'd be very similar to the coffee thing I'm doing.

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<v Speaker 1>I'd be trying different temperatures and recipes and yeah this week.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, yeah, man, I'm jealous of that. A nice

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<v Speaker 2>warm slice of sour dough with butter.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, it's so good.

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<v Speaker 2>It's the satisfaction of you making it yourself.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Yeah. So, having mocked the hipster stuff for so

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<v Speaker 1>many years and I will continue to, I was trying

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<v Speaker 1>to figure out where my mockery of this sort of

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<v Speaker 1>thing ends and my understand why people like it begins.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe it has a lot to do with how much

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<v Speaker 1>you freaking talk about it to other people.

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<v Speaker 2>May Yeah, although you know, there's like I dress like,

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<v Speaker 2>you know again, just came off the prairie in eighteen

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<v Speaker 2>sixty because it's hip your buddy the blacksmith, you would

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<v Speaker 2>not hang with that if it was a conceit.

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<v Speaker 1>No, because it's too much work.

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<v Speaker 2>So you've got like the show body conceit hipster stuff,

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<v Speaker 2>and then you've got like like you're doing with the

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<v Speaker 2>coffee or he's doing.

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<v Speaker 1>That's different.

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<v Speaker 2>That's investing yourself in learning something and overcoming the challenges

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<v Speaker 2>that I totally respect.

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<v Speaker 1>One other aspect of all of this that I have

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<v Speaker 1>found in a couple of different realms of life is

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<v Speaker 1>how many people, because of YouTube and that sort of thing,

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<v Speaker 1>can become, you know, support themselves on these kind of

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<v Speaker 1>things I've come across. I didn't even know they even existed.

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<v Speaker 1>I know now like ten people people that have coffee

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<v Speaker 1>related YouTube channels with like two or three million followers

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<v Speaker 1>in some places where it's all about their expertise and

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<v Speaker 1>making a cup of expresswo at home, and they just

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<v Speaker 1>you know, they bought the camera gear and they got

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<v Speaker 1>a bit of a personality, and they spend some time working.

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<v Speaker 2>On it and.

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<v Speaker 1>It takes off, and you can tell from listening to

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<v Speaker 1>them they got sponsors and all this fancy equipment gets

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<v Speaker 1>sent to them because they review it and stuff like that.

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<v Speaker 1>That didn't that was impossible not that many years ago.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that's really cool. And there's that for skateboarding

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<v Speaker 1>or guitars or making coffee or I'm sure there are

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<v Speaker 1>a gazillion well known bred people every aspect of it.

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<v Speaker 1>If you're good at something and you got a bit

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<v Speaker 1>of a personality, you buy a camera, you can you

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<v Speaker 1>can turn it into a life.

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<v Speaker 2>I wish I had expertise in anything.

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<v Speaker 1>I know me too, other than this.

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<v Speaker 2>And you know it's funny. Oh just asn't aside. I was.

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<v Speaker 2>I met a friend's son the other day and he said,

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<v Speaker 2>Joe here has a podcast because he's like in his

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<v Speaker 2>sixties or late fifties and he doesn't realize to young people,

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<v Speaker 2>everybody's got a fucking podcast. Yeah right, sorry Hanson, Yeah please, no, No,

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<v Speaker 2>that's just it's like saying he has a blog.

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<v Speaker 1>You should know he cares. You should say to him,

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<v Speaker 1>would you like a podcast? I can show you about

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<v Speaker 1>three minutes how you could have a podcast? Well, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>on your phone, start talking into it. Look, you got

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<v Speaker 1>a podcast.

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<v Speaker 2>Allegedly conceivably you know, I you us could you know

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<v Speaker 2>do like YouTube videos for how to have a good podcast,

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<v Speaker 2>but the video would be this long. Either got it

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<v Speaker 2>or you don't. And if you got it, you got

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<v Speaker 2>to do it a bunch to get better at it.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's interesting how many people have carved out a

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<v Speaker 1>niche for themselves, A big niche. You shouldn't even really

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<v Speaker 1>call it a niche. If you got three million people

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<v Speaker 1>tune in what you have to say, that's not a niche.

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<v Speaker 2>That's a home run.

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<v Speaker 1>But there's lots of people in every aspect of life

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<v Speaker 1>that you could possibly come up with. That's a really

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<v Speaker 1>cool thing, you know.

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<v Speaker 2>Here, here's one. I get a start a YouTube channel

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<v Speaker 2>about building bird houses, build beautiful bird houses, triple be channel.

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<v Speaker 2>And the joke would be, I suck at it. I

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<v Speaker 2>give all the instructions, you know, speak beautifully about and

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<v Speaker 2>then measure twice and cut once, and then I put

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<v Speaker 2>it together and I just build the world shitty. It's

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<v Speaker 2>a bird out because trust me, I would I am

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<v Speaker 2>so bad at that.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, I'd watch the hell out of that seriously all

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<v Speaker 4>the time. Oh yeah, I would never crack a smile.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh that doesn't line up, never wink at the audience

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<v Speaker 4>at all, and every time at the end, I'd be like, yes, yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>I'm not sure what happened.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh boy, Joe.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna do the same thing, but with cakes. I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know how to.

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<v Speaker 1>Make your cake, Joe, come out raw.

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<v Speaker 2>I'll burn myself on the oven the end.

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<v Speaker 1>Of every Birdhouse episode, I don't know that.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know what happened.

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<v Speaker 1>See you next time. Well, I guess that's it. Your

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<v Speaker 1>next half of Joe.

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<v Speaker 2>Builds Birdhouses, building beautiful birdhouses. Welcome back to Triple B.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm Joe, Eddy