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Speaker 2: but the video would be this long. Either got it

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Speaker 2: or you don't. And if you got it, you got

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Speaker 2: to do it a bunch to get better at it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's interesting how many people have carved out a

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Speaker 1: niche for themselves, A big niche. You shouldn't even really

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Speaker 1: call it a niche. If you got three million people

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Speaker 1: tune in what you have to say, that's not a niche.

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Speaker 2: That's a home run.

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Speaker 1: But there's lots of people in every aspect of life

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Speaker 1: that you could possibly come up with. That's a really

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Speaker 1: cool thing, you know.

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Speaker 2: Here, here's one. I get a start a YouTube channel

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Speaker 2: about building bird houses, build beautiful bird houses, triple be channel.

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Speaker 2: And the joke would be, I suck at it. I

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Speaker 2: give all the instructions, you know, speak beautifully about and

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Speaker 2: then measure twice and cut once, and then I put

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Speaker 2: it together and I just build the world shitty. It's

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Speaker 2: a bird out because trust me, I would I am

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Speaker 2: so bad at that.

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Speaker 4: Well, I'd watch the hell out of that seriously all

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Speaker 4: the time. Oh yeah, I would never crack a smile.

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Speaker 4: Oh that doesn't line up, never wink at the audience

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Speaker 4: at all, and every time at the end, I'd be like, yes, yeah,

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Speaker 4: I'm not sure what happened.

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Speaker 1: Oh boy, Joe.

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna do the same thing, but with cakes. I

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Speaker 2: don't know how to.

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Speaker 1: Make your cake, Joe, come out raw.

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Speaker 2: I'll burn myself on the oven the end.

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Speaker 1: Of every Birdhouse episode, I don't know that.

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Speaker 2: I don't know what happened.

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Speaker 1: See you next time. Well, I guess that's it. Your

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Speaker 1: next half of Joe.

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Speaker 2: Builds Birdhouses, building beautiful birdhouses. Welcome back to Triple B.

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Speaker 2: I'm Joe, Eddy