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Speaker 1: Welcome to the Official Titans Podcast, better known as the OTP.

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Speaker 1: My name is Mike. Keith amy Wells is here. Why hello, Mike?

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Speaker 1: Can we have a special guest with us that Titans

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Speaker 1: training camp? Ian Rappaport from NFL Network and NFL dot Com.

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Speaker 1: Thank you for taking time, Thank you for having me.

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Speaker 1: I think most important thing here is I'm trying to

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Speaker 1: make sure my hair doesn't get messed up on this.

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Speaker 1: A lot of TV ahead of me today. This is

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Speaker 1: all very important. But as long as that continues and

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Speaker 1: the hair still looks good, I'm good. Yeah, it's priorities.

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Speaker 1: Hair always, always, always all right. I want to start

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Speaker 1: off because you just walked out of meeting with the

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Speaker 1: general manager and the head coach, true story. I want

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Speaker 1: to know what you were able to glean from those meetings.

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Speaker 1: What did you learn? So, first of all, I did

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Speaker 1: talk to John Robinson before this got on my podcast,

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Speaker 1: which is dropping tomorrow or Tuesday, one of those days.

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Speaker 1: Past is good. Thanks and I like to appreciate it.

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Speaker 1: I like it too, And I don't know if it's

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Speaker 1: like I don't listen to a ton of podcasts, I

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Speaker 1: just doing so. I don't know. In the Pantheona podcast,

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Speaker 1: like what it's supposed to be. The Only thing I

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Speaker 1: know is I like doing it? Yeah, So, like I

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Speaker 1: like the guys who are on. It's kind of fun.

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Speaker 1: We bust each other's chops. So I don't know if

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Speaker 1: other people like it, and I'm happy to hear that

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Speaker 1: you do, thank you. But I know at least I

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Speaker 1: like doing it. But as far as you know, so

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Speaker 1: I got Jay Rob on the podcast was interesting talking about,

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Speaker 1: you know, the makeup of the team, which I know

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Speaker 1: he really likes what he's trying to get accomplished, the

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Speaker 1: kind of renewed comfort level from some of these guys,

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Speaker 1: you know, also why they were comfortable drafting Jeffrey Simmons.

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Speaker 1: And I don't mean the off the field stuff. I

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Speaker 1: mean someone who might not play this year, just how

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Speaker 1: you know, the the extreme talent he had that that's

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Speaker 1: so rare to get, you know, sort of that's someone

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Speaker 1: where you're drafting there why they're will to draft him.

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Speaker 1: I think that was interesting what Marcus kind of needed

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Speaker 1: to do, the meeting he had with Taylor Lan after

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Speaker 1: his disclosure, So I think that was interesting. It was

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Speaker 1: with Mike Vrabel, just a couple of minutes ago. And

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Speaker 1: you know, it's funny, like we we talked about football some.

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Speaker 1: We were in there for probably a half hour, and

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Speaker 1: most of the talk was like team building and culture

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Speaker 1: and like the kind of people that he wants and

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Speaker 1: how he wants his players to treat people. Like. I

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Speaker 1: didn't learn anything about like the offensive line, say, but

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Speaker 1: I did learn a lot about his vision for a

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Speaker 1: football team and the kind of people that he wants,

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Speaker 1: which makes sense because like, like the Titans last year

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Speaker 1: weren't always like the prettiest team of all time, but

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Speaker 1: they played very hard always and the hit always. And

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Speaker 1: I feel like that's really okay, nice good stuff. Now

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Speaker 1: I want to ask you a podcast type question. As

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Speaker 1: you start tapping on your phone, how many it's called multitasking?

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Speaker 1: How many phones do you have? Do you have just

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Speaker 1: one or do you have two phones? I just have one? Okay,

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Speaker 1: so you just have one? Yep? What is your data

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Speaker 1: plan or whatever? Do you have any idea what your

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Speaker 1: phone costs per month? No idea. It goes right to

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Speaker 1: the company, which is fine, which is which I appreciate.

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Speaker 1: It's gotta be over a thousand dollars a month. There

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Speaker 1: will be sometimes when I will be like, you know,

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Speaker 1: let's say I get a text early. Let's say during

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Speaker 1: it's like hundreds, just kind of go through. Do you

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Speaker 1: ever turn your phone off? So I was on a

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Speaker 1: plane two nights ago and I was going from Tampa

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Speaker 1: getting ready to take off, and I was watching um Bodyguard,

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Speaker 1: So if you go to church, or you go out

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Speaker 1: it right? If you're doing something with your kids at

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Speaker 1: any point during that? Are you ever without your phone?

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Speaker 1: At the only time I ever would be without my

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Speaker 1: literally goes in the shower. Yeah, why is that weird?

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Speaker 1: through the ziplot. So, so you're doing a hair mask

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Speaker 1: A lot of facial stuff. Rodan in Fields is great.

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Speaker 1: It is great. Now you are the TV guy. So

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Speaker 1: so you're so you're conditioning your hair and you find

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Speaker 1: no man in America more attached to his phone than

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Speaker 1: Ian Rappaport. That's why I had to ask this question.

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Speaker 1: I watch you on t V. I heard church the

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I know he went at you, and then

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Speaker 1: you know, but there are some where I answer one

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Speaker 1: Your wife's on Twitter. She's the banktress. She is. She's

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Speaker 1: Now we've talked about family and the phones and everything

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Speaker 1: the national pundits have sort of graded the Titans down?

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Speaker 1: I was showing Amy one this morning where they're picked

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Speaker 1: not people who have an agenda against the Titans. I

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Speaker 1: don't think there's a conspiracy. Yeah, I'm just one. It's interesting.

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Speaker 1: Are there other things that you need to see from

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Speaker 1: Just physically? How he holds up? And then you know

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