1 00:00:05,680 --> 00:00:09,920 Speaker 1: This is straight Fire with Jason McIntyre. 2 00:00:11,119 --> 00:00:11,799 Speaker 2: What is up? 3 00:00:11,800 --> 00:00:18,360 Speaker 3: Straight firefam, It's me Jason McIntyre. Straight Fire for Friday, 4 00:00:18,720 --> 00:00:25,160 Speaker 3: July twenty sixth. The Olympics are here. Circle Sunday on 5 00:00:25,200 --> 00:00:28,080 Speaker 3: your calendar, Serbia, USA. It's gonna be tough. It sounds 6 00:00:28,120 --> 00:00:32,479 Speaker 3: like KD will not be playing. He's technically TBD. I 7 00:00:32,479 --> 00:00:35,440 Speaker 3: saw the scrimmage highlights all over Instagram and he looked 8 00:00:35,440 --> 00:00:38,080 Speaker 3: good to me. But according to Kerr, we don't know 9 00:00:38,080 --> 00:00:40,120 Speaker 3: if he's gonna be ready. I don't get it, but 10 00:00:40,159 --> 00:00:42,320 Speaker 3: obviously they're preaching cautions. So it should be a fun 11 00:00:42,320 --> 00:00:45,080 Speaker 3: weekend on the Olympic front. I am going to try 12 00:00:45,280 --> 00:00:48,320 Speaker 3: the Chargers just so happen to have a training camp 13 00:00:48,320 --> 00:00:52,159 Speaker 3: out here in the South Bay, and I'm trying to 14 00:00:52,200 --> 00:00:54,120 Speaker 3: head out there this weekend. Take the kids, just check 15 00:00:54,120 --> 00:00:57,520 Speaker 3: out some little justin Herbert action. I don't even know 16 00:00:57,560 --> 00:01:00,480 Speaker 3: if I can identify the Chargers like receivers if their 17 00:01:00,560 --> 00:01:03,320 Speaker 3: nameplates were not on the back. That's how much newness 18 00:01:03,360 --> 00:01:05,760 Speaker 3: there is. Your new running backs and receivers. Should be fun, 19 00:01:07,280 --> 00:01:11,000 Speaker 3: but the Olympics probably will rule the weekend. And before 20 00:01:11,240 --> 00:01:13,360 Speaker 3: you know, let's quickly start with an Olympics topic, although 21 00:01:13,360 --> 00:01:16,360 Speaker 3: so this will be heavy NFL. I did see that 22 00:01:16,920 --> 00:01:20,960 Speaker 3: Mark Spears, the reporter for ESPN, caught up with Steph 23 00:01:21,040 --> 00:01:24,440 Speaker 3: Curry and asked a question that we've been pushing here 24 00:01:24,480 --> 00:01:28,560 Speaker 3: on this podcast. Well, okay, the Warriors stink. Maybe they're 25 00:01:28,560 --> 00:01:31,040 Speaker 3: going off to lowry markin in as if he's going 26 00:01:31,120 --> 00:01:34,399 Speaker 3: to turn around their fortunes significantly. Their win totals like 27 00:01:34,760 --> 00:01:37,360 Speaker 3: forty two and a half, forty four and a half, 28 00:01:37,360 --> 00:01:40,080 Speaker 3: somewhere in that range. And it's like, I don't know. 29 00:01:41,120 --> 00:01:43,880 Speaker 3: You can argue all you want that d Anthony Melton 30 00:01:43,959 --> 00:01:47,440 Speaker 3: and Kyle Anderson make them better than Chris Paul and 31 00:01:47,480 --> 00:01:49,559 Speaker 3: Klay Thompson. You can argue that all till you're blue 32 00:01:49,560 --> 00:01:51,640 Speaker 3: in the face bottom mine. This is not a contender. 33 00:01:52,440 --> 00:01:54,800 Speaker 3: And that'll be the first time in about a decade 34 00:01:54,840 --> 00:01:58,600 Speaker 3: that the Warriors have not been contenders. And I asked this, 35 00:01:58,680 --> 00:02:00,840 Speaker 3: I'm like, well, what happens if they can't swing a 36 00:02:00,880 --> 00:02:03,960 Speaker 3: trade for marketing and they win thirty nine games and 37 00:02:04,000 --> 00:02:06,200 Speaker 3: miss the play in, or they're in the play and 38 00:02:06,200 --> 00:02:10,920 Speaker 3: again and lose and Draymond's not getting any younger. Andrew Wiggins, 39 00:02:10,919 --> 00:02:12,440 Speaker 3: I don't know if he can be fixed, and there's 40 00:02:12,480 --> 00:02:14,639 Speaker 3: a world where all of a sudden, the Warriors next 41 00:02:14,639 --> 00:02:19,640 Speaker 3: offseason are like, we can't turn this around, we can't 42 00:02:19,720 --> 00:02:23,320 Speaker 3: do it. And then Steph Curry then was asked about 43 00:02:23,400 --> 00:02:25,880 Speaker 3: this by Mark Spiras and he said, if it is 44 00:02:25,960 --> 00:02:28,760 Speaker 3: a situation where you're a bottom feeder and it's just 45 00:02:28,840 --> 00:02:31,359 Speaker 3: because you want to stay there, I'd have a hard 46 00:02:31,400 --> 00:02:33,480 Speaker 3: time with that. But I don't think that's going to 47 00:02:33,520 --> 00:02:37,280 Speaker 3: be the reality in Golden State. So Steph said, now 48 00:02:37,639 --> 00:02:39,840 Speaker 3: here's a weird thing. Well, obviously nobody wants to be 49 00:02:39,880 --> 00:02:43,520 Speaker 3: a bottom feeder and stay there, right, that makes no 50 00:02:43,600 --> 00:02:46,239 Speaker 3: sense at all. As bad as the Wizards and the 51 00:02:46,240 --> 00:02:48,160 Speaker 3: Bulls are, I don't think they want to stay there. 52 00:02:48,400 --> 00:02:48,600 Speaker 1: Now. 53 00:02:48,639 --> 00:02:50,800 Speaker 3: Do they want to be bad this year for Cooper flag? 54 00:02:51,440 --> 00:02:55,359 Speaker 3: Sag for Cooper flag? Yeah? Maybe, but that's this year. 55 00:02:55,880 --> 00:02:59,160 Speaker 3: Nobody actively wants to be at the bottom. I mean, 56 00:02:59,200 --> 00:03:01,600 Speaker 3: Portland's been in a built since trading McCollum and Dame. 57 00:03:02,919 --> 00:03:04,720 Speaker 3: They're not trying to stay there. They're trying to turn 58 00:03:04,760 --> 00:03:08,160 Speaker 3: it around. It's tough. And so you look at a 59 00:03:08,200 --> 00:03:11,240 Speaker 3: Hall of Famer like Curry and let's just let's work 60 00:03:11,320 --> 00:03:14,440 Speaker 3: under that scenario. Rob They go, they win thirty nine games, 61 00:03:15,840 --> 00:03:17,480 Speaker 3: and let's just say they're in the play in and 62 00:03:17,480 --> 00:03:19,120 Speaker 3: they lose in the plane and missed the playoffs. Now 63 00:03:19,240 --> 00:03:21,360 Speaker 3: two years in a row, Curry is still performing at 64 00:03:21,360 --> 00:03:23,120 Speaker 3: a high level. I can think we can pencil him 65 00:03:23,160 --> 00:03:26,280 Speaker 3: in for twenty five. I don't know, twenty five, five 66 00:03:26,360 --> 00:03:29,120 Speaker 3: and four, don't whatever his numbers are just knock him 67 00:03:29,160 --> 00:03:31,880 Speaker 3: off a little because he's at the age where most 68 00:03:31,919 --> 00:03:34,280 Speaker 3: of the greats from the eighties and nineties had already retired. 69 00:03:35,480 --> 00:03:38,360 Speaker 3: And then, yeah, do they tinker with trading Curry? I mean, 70 00:03:38,480 --> 00:03:41,160 Speaker 3: can does he demand a trade that does not seem 71 00:03:41,600 --> 00:03:44,760 Speaker 3: like it's part of his DNA? That just doesn't That 72 00:03:45,000 --> 00:03:50,080 Speaker 3: being said, do you know where Hakim elajah Wan ended 73 00:03:50,080 --> 00:03:53,720 Speaker 3: his NBA career, the great Houston Rockets legend who won 74 00:03:53,800 --> 00:03:57,720 Speaker 3: two titles. He ended his career with the Toronto Raptors. 75 00:03:57,720 --> 00:04:00,320 Speaker 3: Do you know where Patrick Ewing spent the fun year 76 00:04:00,320 --> 00:04:02,720 Speaker 3: of his career, legendary in New York nick, arguably a 77 00:04:02,720 --> 00:04:04,960 Speaker 3: top three nick of all time, my favorite nick of 78 00:04:05,000 --> 00:04:08,920 Speaker 3: all time. It was in the Seattle SuperSonics, Jersey. That's 79 00:04:08,920 --> 00:04:11,320 Speaker 3: where Patrick Ewing ended his career. I mean, we could 80 00:04:11,360 --> 00:04:13,920 Speaker 3: go on down the list. Alan Iverson he did not 81 00:04:14,240 --> 00:04:15,680 Speaker 3: retire a six or even though he took him to 82 00:04:15,720 --> 00:04:19,480 Speaker 3: the finals. You go to the NFL. Joe Montana pushed 83 00:04:19,520 --> 00:04:23,919 Speaker 3: out for Steve Young, ends up with the Kansas City Chiefs. 84 00:04:24,520 --> 00:04:29,040 Speaker 3: John Tannagret Russell Wilson not quite a legend. I think 85 00:04:29,080 --> 00:04:33,320 Speaker 3: he's probably a Hall of Famer. Seattle great identifies with 86 00:04:33,400 --> 00:04:36,440 Speaker 3: Seattle in that amazing run, legion of boom. He's now 87 00:04:36,480 --> 00:04:40,280 Speaker 3: in Pittsburgh on his third team in three years. Like, 88 00:04:40,440 --> 00:04:46,800 Speaker 3: this is what happens. Not everybody has the perfect I'm 89 00:04:46,800 --> 00:04:49,560 Speaker 3: gonna stay with one franchise and I'm gonna end up 90 00:04:49,960 --> 00:04:52,440 Speaker 3: staying there forever, and then I'm gonna John Elway comes 91 00:04:52,480 --> 00:04:55,280 Speaker 3: to mind. I mean Peyton Manning. You know, the neck 92 00:04:55,360 --> 00:04:58,119 Speaker 3: injury was with the Colts. Neck injury, goes to Denver 93 00:04:58,160 --> 00:05:01,159 Speaker 3: and he wins another Super Bowl. Like, let's not freak 94 00:05:01,200 --> 00:05:06,080 Speaker 3: out about this that Steph Curry could end up. Listen, 95 00:05:06,080 --> 00:05:08,880 Speaker 3: He's not gonna end up in Charlotte. Okay, that's not 96 00:05:08,880 --> 00:05:11,279 Speaker 3: gonna happen. I'm sorry, No, I should take back Charlotte. 97 00:05:11,320 --> 00:05:13,760 Speaker 3: I was just thinking of a bad team. He did 98 00:05:13,800 --> 00:05:16,800 Speaker 3: play college at Davidson, so I should probably take that back. 99 00:05:16,800 --> 00:05:18,599 Speaker 3: He could end up in Charlie. He could end up 100 00:05:18,600 --> 00:05:22,920 Speaker 3: in Charlotte. I don't know. I don't see Steph Curry 101 00:05:23,040 --> 00:05:29,279 Speaker 3: ending up in Okay, see Okay, It's just unlikely to me. Now, 102 00:05:29,320 --> 00:05:34,000 Speaker 3: could he end up playing for a contender. Let's say 103 00:05:34,120 --> 00:05:37,800 Speaker 3: the What's that? What's What's a good team that is 104 00:05:37,880 --> 00:05:42,000 Speaker 3: on the come up, Houston Rockets. Houston Rockets are building, 105 00:05:42,040 --> 00:05:44,840 Speaker 3: they need they could use one more veteran. I think 106 00:05:44,839 --> 00:05:47,960 Speaker 3: they're a playoff team next year. And the Houston Rockets say, 107 00:05:48,000 --> 00:05:50,640 Speaker 3: we've got the AMMO, we want Steph Curry. You are 108 00:05:50,920 --> 00:05:54,120 Speaker 3: packing the arena, everybody's coming to see Curry, and you're 109 00:05:54,440 --> 00:05:58,120 Speaker 3: instantly contending. You right now are a fringe, fringe playoff 110 00:05:58,120 --> 00:06:01,920 Speaker 3: team and st adding Steph Curry and another year of Sengoon, 111 00:06:02,600 --> 00:06:04,800 Speaker 3: Jabari Smith and all the guys they got, Like, Yeah, 112 00:06:04,839 --> 00:06:08,240 Speaker 3: I think there's definitely something there, But I don't think 113 00:06:08,240 --> 00:06:10,119 Speaker 3: it's the end of the world. Rob If Steph Curry 114 00:06:10,120 --> 00:06:12,800 Speaker 3: did not end up in a in a Golden State 115 00:06:12,839 --> 00:06:14,680 Speaker 3: Warriors Jersey, it's. 116 00:06:14,560 --> 00:06:16,000 Speaker 4: Not the end of the world, but it would be 117 00:06:16,040 --> 00:06:19,920 Speaker 4: something I'd be very disappointed with because call me nostalgic, 118 00:06:20,120 --> 00:06:23,880 Speaker 4: call me emotional, whatever, I think that there's something to 119 00:06:23,880 --> 00:06:29,240 Speaker 4: be said about great players finishing, starting, and finishing their 120 00:06:29,240 --> 00:06:32,680 Speaker 4: career with one franchise. Maybe I'm romanticizing a little bit 121 00:06:32,680 --> 00:06:34,960 Speaker 4: because I'm a Laker fan with Kobe and you know Magic, 122 00:06:35,560 --> 00:06:38,000 Speaker 4: But then you got Tim Duncan, you got Derk Novitsky. 123 00:06:39,400 --> 00:06:41,479 Speaker 4: This is a big asterisk one. But I think Michael 124 00:06:41,560 --> 00:06:44,320 Speaker 4: Jordan still counts because the only reason no he was 125 00:06:44,320 --> 00:06:46,359 Speaker 4: in Washington was because he had money in the game. 126 00:06:46,560 --> 00:06:48,880 Speaker 4: Right If if he wasn't trying to sell tickets to 127 00:06:48,960 --> 00:06:51,520 Speaker 4: help a fledging franchise, I don't think he ever would 128 00:06:51,520 --> 00:06:52,000 Speaker 4: have came back. 129 00:06:51,880 --> 00:06:52,800 Speaker 2: And played for the Wizards. 130 00:06:53,279 --> 00:06:58,720 Speaker 3: Look at you trying to Michael Jordan's Wash years in Washington, Rob. 131 00:06:59,240 --> 00:07:02,280 Speaker 4: As much as I say, you know, I want hashtag 132 00:07:02,320 --> 00:07:05,440 Speaker 4: future Laker, Jason Tatum or whoever was Carmelo Anthony, Lebron 133 00:07:05,520 --> 00:07:06,120 Speaker 4: James at. 134 00:07:05,960 --> 00:07:06,920 Speaker 2: Whatever, all these guys. 135 00:07:08,880 --> 00:07:14,360 Speaker 4: There comes a point in time where if a player's 136 00:07:14,840 --> 00:07:20,480 Speaker 4: original franchise has treated them well, has done whatever they 137 00:07:20,560 --> 00:07:23,800 Speaker 4: could to put a winner around them, has been a 138 00:07:23,920 --> 00:07:28,559 Speaker 4: functional franchise, and you still want out, then that says 139 00:07:28,560 --> 00:07:30,520 Speaker 4: more to me about the player than it does about 140 00:07:30,520 --> 00:07:36,080 Speaker 4: the situation, Like I kind of understood Anthony Davis wanting 141 00:07:36,080 --> 00:07:37,440 Speaker 4: out of New Orleans because New Orleans was. 142 00:07:37,400 --> 00:07:38,960 Speaker 2: A tire fire, right. 143 00:07:39,320 --> 00:07:44,200 Speaker 4: I understood Kevin Garnett eventually wanting out of Minnesota because 144 00:07:44,280 --> 00:07:47,160 Speaker 4: Minnesota historically has been one of the worst friend franchises 145 00:07:47,280 --> 00:07:51,640 Speaker 4: in NBA history. But when you talk about Steph Curry 146 00:07:52,520 --> 00:07:55,440 Speaker 4: when he got there, like the Warriors were nothing to 147 00:07:55,440 --> 00:07:58,000 Speaker 4: write home about, Steph Curry wasn't seen as a second 148 00:07:58,000 --> 00:08:03,120 Speaker 4: coming him, Clay and dre On kind of became something together. 149 00:08:03,760 --> 00:08:05,400 Speaker 4: And the reason they were able to develop the way 150 00:08:05,440 --> 00:08:07,080 Speaker 4: that they did and whined the clip that they wanted 151 00:08:07,480 --> 00:08:11,080 Speaker 4: was because they had the infrastructure behind that new ownership 152 00:08:11,080 --> 00:08:13,960 Speaker 4: group that was willing to invest in the team to 153 00:08:14,040 --> 00:08:16,400 Speaker 4: put the right pieces around them, to take a risk 154 00:08:16,440 --> 00:08:18,200 Speaker 4: with the guy like Steve curR as the head coach, 155 00:08:18,960 --> 00:08:21,560 Speaker 4: knowing he had no coaching experience, knowing that he was 156 00:08:21,600 --> 00:08:24,520 Speaker 4: going to completely overhaul an offense that had just made 157 00:08:24,600 --> 00:08:28,120 Speaker 4: us to the playoffs with Mark Jackson, and they made. 158 00:08:28,000 --> 00:08:29,720 Speaker 2: Shrewd move after shrewd move. 159 00:08:30,080 --> 00:08:31,680 Speaker 4: It reached a pinnacle when they were able to get 160 00:08:31,720 --> 00:08:36,319 Speaker 4: Kevin Durant with that capspike, and even after Durant left, 161 00:08:36,880 --> 00:08:39,199 Speaker 4: Klay Thompson gets hurt, they whiff on a couple of 162 00:08:39,320 --> 00:08:44,560 Speaker 4: draft picks, and that ownership group says, Steph Curry still 163 00:08:44,600 --> 00:08:46,920 Speaker 4: good enough right now, we are going to pay whatever 164 00:08:47,000 --> 00:08:50,360 Speaker 4: it costs for us to be in contention. I believe 165 00:08:50,400 --> 00:08:52,960 Speaker 4: up until this last season with Phoenix, they had the 166 00:08:53,000 --> 00:08:57,000 Speaker 4: most expensive roster in NBA history, and that team was 167 00:08:57,160 --> 00:09:02,199 Speaker 4: wildly mediocre. So their fault that the team wasn't great. 168 00:09:02,800 --> 00:09:06,280 Speaker 4: It just that's what happens. Like the window doesn't stay 169 00:09:06,280 --> 00:09:09,920 Speaker 4: open forever. And for Steph Curry to I know that 170 00:09:09,920 --> 00:09:12,080 Speaker 4: he's saying it's unlikely and I don't really see it happening, 171 00:09:12,080 --> 00:09:15,000 Speaker 4: But to even floated out there that I could eventually 172 00:09:15,040 --> 00:09:17,920 Speaker 4: see myself saying, Hey, if we're not winning and we're 173 00:09:17,960 --> 00:09:20,080 Speaker 4: not in contention, that I might try to get to 174 00:09:20,200 --> 00:09:22,720 Speaker 4: Houston or try to get to San Antonio or whatever. 175 00:09:22,760 --> 00:09:24,040 Speaker 2: Pick your favorite team. 176 00:09:24,320 --> 00:09:25,480 Speaker 3: Oh wasn't they that's saying. 177 00:09:25,480 --> 00:09:28,160 Speaker 4: I didn't want throw that out there, but like there's 178 00:09:28,200 --> 00:09:30,839 Speaker 4: something to be said about Steph Curry being in All 179 00:09:30,920 --> 00:09:35,160 Speaker 4: Caps Warrior, like he it meets something to them. 180 00:09:35,520 --> 00:09:38,760 Speaker 3: For you, what Jersey does Charles Barkley identify with? He 181 00:09:38,800 --> 00:09:41,240 Speaker 3: did play for the Sixers before forcing trades to the Suns. 182 00:09:41,240 --> 00:09:44,640 Speaker 4: In Rockets, he's a vagabond, he's Lebron James, He's Kevin Durant. 183 00:09:44,800 --> 00:09:45,880 Speaker 4: I don't associate with. 184 00:09:45,800 --> 00:09:48,520 Speaker 3: Anybody now he doesn't, he would never Nobody. Too many 185 00:09:48,559 --> 00:09:50,920 Speaker 3: pussies in the media afraid to ask him that. Nobody's 186 00:09:50,960 --> 00:09:54,160 Speaker 3: asked him straight up when he bashes them for bouncing around. Uh, 187 00:09:54,280 --> 00:09:57,000 Speaker 3: nobody asks Barkley because then have the cahonis to ask him. 188 00:09:57,120 --> 00:09:59,240 Speaker 3: But that's a that's a great point. And I've made 189 00:09:59,240 --> 00:10:01,520 Speaker 3: that many times, and he's like, listen, Barkley is doing 190 00:10:01,679 --> 00:10:05,000 Speaker 3: just what Kevin. Kevin Durant, Lebron are doing what Barkley did. 191 00:10:05,200 --> 00:10:08,800 Speaker 3: It's not a big deal that they're bouncing around. By 192 00:10:08,800 --> 00:10:10,520 Speaker 3: the way, Kevin Garnett, how many teams did he play 193 00:10:10,559 --> 00:10:12,680 Speaker 3: for in his career, I mean he played for three. 194 00:10:14,080 --> 00:10:14,280 Speaker 2: Yeah. 195 00:10:14,480 --> 00:10:19,640 Speaker 3: It's like, I just I cannot crucify these guys for 196 00:10:19,720 --> 00:10:21,120 Speaker 3: wanting to go out and win rings. 197 00:10:21,920 --> 00:10:22,680 Speaker 2: No me, me either. 198 00:10:22,720 --> 00:10:26,800 Speaker 4: But I think it depends on the situation, Like if 199 00:10:27,320 --> 00:10:29,320 Speaker 4: Kevin Kevin Durant is the perfect example for all this, 200 00:10:29,400 --> 00:10:31,040 Speaker 4: and it's kind of sucks that we have to jump 201 00:10:31,080 --> 00:10:32,760 Speaker 4: on him because He's been such a lightning rode for 202 00:10:32,800 --> 00:10:37,520 Speaker 4: this podcast. Kevin Durant when he left Oklahoma City. The 203 00:10:37,600 --> 00:10:39,240 Speaker 4: reason why it looks so bad, Number one, because he 204 00:10:39,240 --> 00:10:41,040 Speaker 4: went to the Warriors, they were already loaded. They were 205 00:10:41,080 --> 00:10:43,920 Speaker 4: the greatest regular season ever. But number two, it's not 206 00:10:43,960 --> 00:10:46,520 Speaker 4: like he didn't have enough in Oklahoma City. It's not 207 00:10:46,559 --> 00:10:51,400 Speaker 4: like they didn't have a competitive, competent team around him. 208 00:10:51,559 --> 00:10:54,920 Speaker 4: Well they did, but he was with Russell West, the Chucker. 209 00:10:55,120 --> 00:10:58,360 Speaker 4: He also had James Harden, he had Serge Ibaka. I 210 00:10:58,360 --> 00:11:01,160 Speaker 4: mean like like he was in a good situation and 211 00:11:01,200 --> 00:11:03,280 Speaker 4: he's like, no, I'm going to go to the best situation. 212 00:11:04,679 --> 00:11:06,679 Speaker 4: And that's his own decision. He's a grow man. He 213 00:11:06,720 --> 00:11:09,280 Speaker 4: can make that however he wants to. But that's why 214 00:11:09,320 --> 00:11:12,320 Speaker 4: he gets chastised in a way like that guy said 215 00:11:12,360 --> 00:11:15,520 Speaker 4: that eighty doesn't get chastised for you know what I mean. 216 00:11:15,559 --> 00:11:18,960 Speaker 3: Okay, how about the Miami Heat with Dwayne Wade. I 217 00:11:18,960 --> 00:11:22,160 Speaker 3: don't remember the exact way he left, but after Lebron left, 218 00:11:22,200 --> 00:11:25,319 Speaker 3: they kind of went in the tank and there were 219 00:11:25,360 --> 00:11:28,680 Speaker 3: issues I guess with the Heat wanting to pay him, 220 00:11:28,800 --> 00:11:30,720 Speaker 3: and he ends up with the Chicago Bulls, his hometown 221 00:11:30,760 --> 00:11:34,880 Speaker 3: team total freaking disaster. Then Dwayne Wade goes to yeah, yeah, 222 00:11:34,920 --> 00:11:39,440 Speaker 3: it happened rob the Cleveland Cavaliers to partner with Lebron again. 223 00:11:40,360 --> 00:11:46,120 Speaker 3: I was like, I can't kill Wade. He was trying 224 00:11:46,120 --> 00:11:48,440 Speaker 3: to chase a ring Miami wasn't going to pay him, 225 00:11:48,480 --> 00:11:53,520 Speaker 3: which at the time seems smart, but like, I don't know, 226 00:11:53,559 --> 00:11:57,600 Speaker 3: it just feels like it's a different league now than 227 00:11:57,640 --> 00:12:00,960 Speaker 3: it was back in the day, even Magic, Kobe, Dirk, 228 00:12:01,800 --> 00:12:04,040 Speaker 3: these guys all well, I guess way to overlap with 229 00:12:04,440 --> 00:12:07,840 Speaker 3: Dirk plenty and sort of Lebron. But maybe it's the 230 00:12:07,880 --> 00:12:11,679 Speaker 3: social media era of athletes because these guys were heavy 231 00:12:11,720 --> 00:12:14,439 Speaker 3: social media as opposed to Dirk. Who I mean, I 232 00:12:14,440 --> 00:12:16,160 Speaker 3: don't know, what do you crown? Social media is coming 233 00:12:16,200 --> 00:12:17,760 Speaker 3: in two thouy ten ish? 234 00:12:17,880 --> 00:12:19,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, right right around like where the decision is. 235 00:12:19,880 --> 00:12:24,480 Speaker 3: It's omnipressant at by twenty sixteen, everybody's on it all 236 00:12:24,480 --> 00:12:27,160 Speaker 3: the time, and now you tossed in TikTok and it's 237 00:12:27,200 --> 00:12:29,520 Speaker 3: just everywhere. So I don't know, I can't crush Curry anyways. 238 00:12:29,760 --> 00:12:32,000 Speaker 3: I thought that was an interesting take by him, And 239 00:12:32,559 --> 00:12:37,960 Speaker 3: I'll be real, I'm a Curry fan, not a Warriors fan. 240 00:12:38,080 --> 00:12:41,320 Speaker 3: So if Curry says I'm out and I'm gonna and 241 00:12:41,440 --> 00:12:44,840 Speaker 3: ends up in I don't know, fucking Memphis, I don't care. 242 00:12:45,280 --> 00:12:50,000 Speaker 3: I then will become a Curry fan in Memphis. So 243 00:12:50,120 --> 00:12:53,000 Speaker 3: I'm not gonna hate the Warriors, obviously, but I like 244 00:12:53,080 --> 00:12:56,280 Speaker 3: them because of Curry. It's weird. We don't do this 245 00:12:56,320 --> 00:13:00,360 Speaker 3: in the NFL, do we rob No, the NFL much 246 00:13:00,360 --> 00:13:03,120 Speaker 3: more tribal than the NBA. And that's because I think 247 00:13:03,160 --> 00:13:05,720 Speaker 3: a lot of the reason is the contracts, the franchise tag. 248 00:13:06,160 --> 00:13:09,520 Speaker 3: They do it so you can't just force trades, you 249 00:13:09,600 --> 00:13:12,640 Speaker 3: can't just bounce around. The NFL kind of controls you. 250 00:13:12,679 --> 00:13:15,160 Speaker 3: And oh, by the way, once you hit thirty, most 251 00:13:15,679 --> 00:13:20,319 Speaker 3: stars outside of quarterback begin to go downhill precipitously. And 252 00:13:21,400 --> 00:13:24,760 Speaker 3: you know that's why like Tom Brady, massive outlier playing 253 00:13:24,760 --> 00:13:27,199 Speaker 3: into his in his mid forties, but most other guys 254 00:13:27,520 --> 00:13:33,240 Speaker 3: like NFL is definitely a twenty two to like thirty 255 00:13:33,600 --> 00:13:37,240 Speaker 3: one ish. And then by that point Levegon Bell, Pittsburgh 256 00:13:37,240 --> 00:13:40,360 Speaker 3: Steelers guy forever forever forever wants to get his way, 257 00:13:40,400 --> 00:13:43,160 Speaker 3: gets to the Jets. Total disaster career over. Like, I mean, 258 00:13:43,200 --> 00:13:45,679 Speaker 3: that's how fast it is that doesn't happen in the NBA. 259 00:13:45,800 --> 00:13:46,079 Speaker 2: Doesn't. 260 00:13:46,240 --> 00:13:49,960 Speaker 1: No, I can't recall No. Fox Sports Radio has the 261 00:13:50,000 --> 00:13:52,920 Speaker 1: best sports talk lineup in the nation. Catch all of 262 00:13:52,920 --> 00:13:56,560 Speaker 1: our shows at Foxsports Radio dot com and within the 263 00:13:56,600 --> 00:13:59,760 Speaker 1: iHeartRadio app search FSR to listen live. 264 00:14:00,440 --> 00:14:02,240 Speaker 3: We can pivot to football on that. And it's like 265 00:14:02,320 --> 00:14:05,760 Speaker 3: this whole Brock party situation where you know, he's on 266 00:14:05,760 --> 00:14:07,840 Speaker 3: his rookie deal, he's had one million dollars a year, 267 00:14:07,880 --> 00:14:11,120 Speaker 3: he's the best deal in the discount in the league. Well, 268 00:14:11,400 --> 00:14:13,840 Speaker 3: Trent Williams is now holding out as well, and he 269 00:14:13,880 --> 00:14:15,600 Speaker 3: wants to get paid because he sees the writing on 270 00:14:15,640 --> 00:14:17,520 Speaker 3: the wall, just like Brandon Ayuk, how y'all gonna have 271 00:14:17,520 --> 00:14:19,840 Speaker 3: money to pay me next year when you got to 272 00:14:19,880 --> 00:14:22,800 Speaker 3: annie up for Brock Purty. And so Trent Williams is 273 00:14:22,800 --> 00:14:25,800 Speaker 3: holding out, and it just it goes to the point 274 00:14:25,840 --> 00:14:31,600 Speaker 3: that in football, nobody really has that much leverage unless 275 00:14:31,640 --> 00:14:35,120 Speaker 3: you're a quarterback. Now we can sit here and argue 276 00:14:35,160 --> 00:14:38,600 Speaker 3: all we want, rob this idea that they're gonna rock 277 00:14:38,640 --> 00:14:42,080 Speaker 3: perty's gonna give him hometown discount, that's not happening. You know, 278 00:14:42,720 --> 00:14:45,880 Speaker 3: he ain't playing for thirty mil. You know he's just 279 00:14:45,960 --> 00:14:48,440 Speaker 3: not not when he's been playing on pennies and has 280 00:14:48,440 --> 00:14:52,080 Speaker 3: like a roommate, you know, in San Francisco. I mean 281 00:14:52,080 --> 00:14:55,520 Speaker 3: it's been well chronicled, like he is gonna get paid, 282 00:14:55,760 --> 00:14:58,280 Speaker 3: and now Trent Williams is like and then you watch 283 00:14:58,320 --> 00:15:00,360 Speaker 3: a video Brandon Ayuke showing up to practice and John 284 00:15:00,440 --> 00:15:02,160 Speaker 3: Lynch kind of walks over to him, and then they 285 00:15:02,200 --> 00:15:04,200 Speaker 3: start walking into the building together and you're like, ooh, 286 00:15:04,360 --> 00:15:07,280 Speaker 3: that looks that looks icy And I don't know Rob. 287 00:15:07,280 --> 00:15:10,040 Speaker 3: I talked about it with Cowhurd on air. I was like, listen, man, 288 00:15:10,440 --> 00:15:13,200 Speaker 3: my deal's up next year. And also all of a sudden, 289 00:15:13,240 --> 00:15:15,120 Speaker 3: Fox is like skitt has shown whether they want to 290 00:15:15,120 --> 00:15:17,760 Speaker 3: pay me or not. Like, I don't know, I don't know. 291 00:15:18,880 --> 00:15:20,440 Speaker 3: You you'll have to tell You'll have to come out 292 00:15:20,480 --> 00:15:22,680 Speaker 3: and tell the audience, Hey, we would love to have 293 00:15:22,760 --> 00:15:26,320 Speaker 3: j Mack blah blah blah, but uh, contract is not 294 00:15:26,360 --> 00:15:28,920 Speaker 3: working out right now. I mean, that's what's happening around 295 00:15:28,920 --> 00:15:32,240 Speaker 3: the league. I saw Jamar Chase unhappy in Cincinnati. He's 296 00:15:32,280 --> 00:15:36,120 Speaker 3: not practicing. He's there, he's going all the meetings everything, 297 00:15:36,120 --> 00:15:40,360 Speaker 3: but he ain't practicing. Show me the money, yeah, to 298 00:15:40,480 --> 00:15:42,840 Speaker 3: a tongue of Aloa. You got Jordan Love like this 299 00:15:42,920 --> 00:15:45,480 Speaker 3: is I don't know, does it? It feels like rob 300 00:15:45,520 --> 00:15:48,800 Speaker 3: there are more higher impact players this year that are 301 00:15:48,840 --> 00:15:52,920 Speaker 3: voicing their displeasure in years past. Obviously there's one or two, 302 00:15:52,960 --> 00:15:54,800 Speaker 3: maybe three all the time, but now it just feels 303 00:15:54,840 --> 00:15:58,160 Speaker 3: like there's a lot of big name guys just like saying, yeah, 304 00:15:58,160 --> 00:16:00,240 Speaker 3: I'm not I'm not practicing yeah. 305 00:16:00,240 --> 00:16:01,640 Speaker 4: And I think the reason why you're seeing that happen 306 00:16:01,720 --> 00:16:03,520 Speaker 4: is because history tells us the only way you're gonna 307 00:16:03,520 --> 00:16:07,400 Speaker 4: get paid is by doing that. And I know that 308 00:16:07,400 --> 00:16:08,920 Speaker 4: there's a lot going on right now. You started talking 309 00:16:08,920 --> 00:16:12,200 Speaker 4: about the Niners, but the big off season discourse has 310 00:16:12,240 --> 00:16:15,320 Speaker 4: been mostly surrounding the Dallas Cowboys because you know, right 311 00:16:15,360 --> 00:16:18,920 Speaker 4: now they got Cde Lamb holding out. Dak Prescott is there, 312 00:16:18,960 --> 00:16:20,840 Speaker 4: but he obviously wants a new contract, and he even 313 00:16:20,840 --> 00:16:24,920 Speaker 4: floated out to reporters on Thursday, like, you know, obviously 314 00:16:24,960 --> 00:16:27,440 Speaker 4: I want to be here, but plenty of other great 315 00:16:27,480 --> 00:16:29,600 Speaker 4: quarterbacks have any of their career somewhere else, so it's 316 00:16:29,640 --> 00:16:30,600 Speaker 4: not something I'm afraid of. 317 00:16:31,160 --> 00:16:31,880 Speaker 2: And then you got. 318 00:16:31,720 --> 00:16:35,120 Speaker 4: Micah Parsons looming, and you know the thing about Micah 319 00:16:35,160 --> 00:16:36,920 Speaker 4: is even though he's not really causing a stink by 320 00:16:36,920 --> 00:16:39,360 Speaker 4: holding out or holding in whatever they do nowadays. But 321 00:16:39,480 --> 00:16:43,680 Speaker 4: the fact that he has spoken so openly about his 322 00:16:43,800 --> 00:16:47,160 Speaker 4: contract and other people's contracts, both to the media and 323 00:16:47,200 --> 00:16:49,600 Speaker 4: in his own podcast, means that it's always at the 324 00:16:49,640 --> 00:16:52,000 Speaker 4: forefront of your mind. Like he was one of the 325 00:16:52,000 --> 00:16:54,680 Speaker 4: guys who came out and said, and this was probably 326 00:16:54,720 --> 00:16:57,240 Speaker 4: a dumb decision on his part, where he's like, hey, 327 00:16:57,280 --> 00:16:59,520 Speaker 4: you know, if we got to pay CD thirty or 328 00:16:59,520 --> 00:17:02,800 Speaker 4: forty million dollars a year, that's basically three or four players, 329 00:17:03,320 --> 00:17:04,679 Speaker 4: and you know, you gotta got to factor that in. 330 00:17:04,720 --> 00:17:07,080 Speaker 4: And it's like, you should never talk like that about 331 00:17:07,080 --> 00:17:08,520 Speaker 4: one of your teamates. You should say, I hope he 332 00:17:08,520 --> 00:17:10,879 Speaker 4: gets forty million dollars. That'd be great for him. But 333 00:17:12,040 --> 00:17:17,280 Speaker 4: what we're seeing right now is not only are guys 334 00:17:17,680 --> 00:17:20,000 Speaker 4: more willing, or at least it seems that way, are 335 00:17:20,040 --> 00:17:23,360 Speaker 4: more willing to take a stand to get more money. 336 00:17:23,440 --> 00:17:26,119 Speaker 4: It's that you're seeing something that you've alluded to in 337 00:17:26,160 --> 00:17:30,639 Speaker 4: the past. A lot of these guys are wide receivers. 338 00:17:31,720 --> 00:17:36,360 Speaker 4: Because we're at a point in the NFL marketplace where 339 00:17:36,720 --> 00:17:40,600 Speaker 4: the wide receiver market is exploding in a way that 340 00:17:40,640 --> 00:17:42,399 Speaker 4: I don't think the NFL is fully caught. 341 00:17:42,320 --> 00:17:45,600 Speaker 2: Up to yet. No, and you've alluded to this. 342 00:17:45,600 --> 00:17:47,280 Speaker 4: In the past, and it's been spot on by you. 343 00:17:48,280 --> 00:17:51,400 Speaker 4: We're gonna get to a point, maybe not this offseason, 344 00:17:51,400 --> 00:17:54,359 Speaker 4: maybe not next off season, but relatively soon where an 345 00:17:54,440 --> 00:17:57,560 Speaker 4: NFL team is gonna say, why the hell are we 346 00:17:57,680 --> 00:18:03,159 Speaker 4: gonna pay Chase, for example, thirty seven million dollars a 347 00:18:03,280 --> 00:18:06,920 Speaker 4: year when we can get eighty percent of Jamar Chase 348 00:18:06,920 --> 00:18:11,280 Speaker 4: production from a fifth round rookie in tanked own. Like, 349 00:18:11,359 --> 00:18:14,119 Speaker 4: that's gonna be what happens. You've you've alluded to it 350 00:18:14,119 --> 00:18:17,679 Speaker 4: before as well. Eventually someone's gonna do that with quarterbacks. 351 00:18:18,359 --> 00:18:18,600 Speaker 2: Now. 352 00:18:18,720 --> 00:18:21,560 Speaker 4: I don't think that's gonna happen as quickly because the 353 00:18:21,680 --> 00:18:24,640 Speaker 4: quarterback is still the most valuable position in all of sports, 354 00:18:24,680 --> 00:18:26,600 Speaker 4: because if you have a good quarterback and a bunch 355 00:18:26,600 --> 00:18:29,440 Speaker 4: of trash around it, you can still be pretty you know, competitive. 356 00:18:30,440 --> 00:18:33,880 Speaker 4: But that is going to happen, and I think it's 357 00:18:33,880 --> 00:18:36,680 Speaker 4: smart of guys like CD, Lamb, Brandon, I Yuk, and 358 00:18:37,240 --> 00:18:40,000 Speaker 4: the list goes on and on to say I got 359 00:18:40,040 --> 00:18:42,720 Speaker 4: to strike while the iron is hot, because eventually this 360 00:18:42,760 --> 00:18:45,720 Speaker 4: money's gonna dry up. Eventually we're gonna get to a 361 00:18:45,760 --> 00:18:49,680 Speaker 4: point where NFL front offices are gonna say, I'll give 362 00:18:49,720 --> 00:18:53,080 Speaker 4: my quarterback sixty million dollars a year, and then I'm 363 00:18:53,119 --> 00:18:55,520 Speaker 4: gonna pinch pennies everywhere else because ultimately, the only thing 364 00:18:55,560 --> 00:18:57,760 Speaker 4: that really matters and is really a difference maker is 365 00:18:57,760 --> 00:18:58,400 Speaker 4: the quarterback. 366 00:19:00,800 --> 00:19:04,840 Speaker 3: I think the smart move rob is for a GM 367 00:19:04,960 --> 00:19:08,480 Speaker 3: to have the kahonas to do that wide receiver thing. However, 368 00:19:09,200 --> 00:19:12,600 Speaker 3: you have to have a massive plan with like backup 369 00:19:12,640 --> 00:19:15,040 Speaker 3: options out the wazoo. It's like when you're watching some 370 00:19:15,080 --> 00:19:17,280 Speaker 3: of these war movies and I kind of got into them. 371 00:19:17,320 --> 00:19:19,639 Speaker 3: I watched something called The Land of Bad. Did you 372 00:19:19,680 --> 00:19:20,320 Speaker 3: watch that yet? No? 373 00:19:20,400 --> 00:19:20,719 Speaker 2: I have not. 374 00:19:21,680 --> 00:19:23,679 Speaker 3: It's on Netflix. I guess it was in theaters and 375 00:19:24,040 --> 00:19:26,639 Speaker 3: maybe it didn't do well. And it's starting one of 376 00:19:26,640 --> 00:19:31,840 Speaker 3: the Hemsworth brothers and the dad from this is us 377 00:19:33,200 --> 00:19:36,960 Speaker 3: Milo something or other anyways, but like, and this is 378 00:19:37,000 --> 00:19:40,440 Speaker 3: a movie obviously not real life, but throughout the journey 379 00:19:40,440 --> 00:19:43,960 Speaker 3: of this movie, they have to have constant backup plans. 380 00:19:44,400 --> 00:19:46,440 Speaker 3: If this falls apart, we meet here, if this goes 381 00:19:46,480 --> 00:19:49,359 Speaker 3: all right, do this And I just I don't know 382 00:19:49,440 --> 00:19:54,960 Speaker 3: that teams front offices are that forward thinking. Like Frankly, 383 00:19:55,160 --> 00:19:59,399 Speaker 3: if you wanted to move on from Brock perty or 384 00:19:59,400 --> 00:20:01,359 Speaker 3: after this year, or make a case that you didn't 385 00:20:01,400 --> 00:20:03,919 Speaker 3: have to pay him, or that you just weren't gonna 386 00:20:04,160 --> 00:20:05,720 Speaker 3: you're gonna be saying, you know, we like Brock, but 387 00:20:06,119 --> 00:20:07,400 Speaker 3: we don't want to have to pay him a ton 388 00:20:07,440 --> 00:20:10,600 Speaker 3: of money. You know what the move is, every single 389 00:20:10,720 --> 00:20:14,480 Speaker 3: year you need to draft a quarterback. And I'm looking 390 00:20:14,520 --> 00:20:16,359 Speaker 3: at their draft picks. This past year, they got a 391 00:20:16,400 --> 00:20:20,880 Speaker 3: receiver anticipating ayukor Debo right, they got, they filled other needs, 392 00:20:20,880 --> 00:20:23,720 Speaker 3: they didn't draft a quarterback, and then last year also 393 00:20:23,880 --> 00:20:28,520 Speaker 3: didn't draft a quarterback. So since they got pretty in 394 00:20:28,520 --> 00:20:30,520 Speaker 3: the seventh round, they haven't drafted a quarterback. I think 395 00:20:30,560 --> 00:20:33,080 Speaker 3: one of the moves is every year you need to 396 00:20:33,119 --> 00:20:37,919 Speaker 3: draft quarterbacks. Every year you need to draft wide receivers because, 397 00:20:38,720 --> 00:20:42,320 Speaker 3: like you said, that bubble is coming. And you know, 398 00:20:42,359 --> 00:20:46,080 Speaker 3: basically Jamar Chase is saying, I saw Justin Jefferson get paid, 399 00:20:46,119 --> 00:20:47,800 Speaker 3: and I'm right there with him as the best receiver 400 00:20:47,800 --> 00:20:50,080 Speaker 3: in the league. So I'm not gonna practice until I 401 00:20:50,080 --> 00:20:52,720 Speaker 3: get Justin Jefferson money. And if you're the Bengals a 402 00:20:52,800 --> 00:20:55,720 Speaker 3: Super Bowl contender, and you just paid Joe Burrow a 403 00:20:55,800 --> 00:20:59,159 Speaker 3: billion dollars and you're not paying t Higgins, Like, I 404 00:20:59,200 --> 00:21:01,600 Speaker 3: don't know what you're waiting for. But rob, do the 405 00:21:01,640 --> 00:21:04,280 Speaker 3: Bengals go from Super Bowl contender to who the hell 406 00:21:04,320 --> 00:21:08,119 Speaker 3: knows when Burrow and Chase are eating up like thirty 407 00:21:08,200 --> 00:21:10,480 Speaker 3: or thirty five percent of your cap because that's what's 408 00:21:10,480 --> 00:21:14,240 Speaker 3: gonna happen if you pay them. And so ultimately someone's 409 00:21:14,280 --> 00:21:16,600 Speaker 3: gonna have to do the herschel Walker trade with one 410 00:21:16,600 --> 00:21:18,840 Speaker 3: of these receivers. I thought the Vikings would do it 411 00:21:18,840 --> 00:21:21,520 Speaker 3: with Jefferson. Now weren't there reports Robbed that the Vikings 412 00:21:21,560 --> 00:21:23,320 Speaker 3: were entertaining Jefferson's. 413 00:21:22,840 --> 00:21:24,959 Speaker 2: Trades all the way up to the end. 414 00:21:25,000 --> 00:21:31,640 Speaker 3: They they have one of those advanced stats inclined front offices. 415 00:21:33,400 --> 00:21:35,600 Speaker 3: Somebody's gonna do it. And listen, the Chiefs moved off 416 00:21:35,640 --> 00:21:38,640 Speaker 3: of Tyreek Hill. Now it's easier to said than done 417 00:21:38,640 --> 00:21:41,480 Speaker 3: when you have Patrick Mahomes. But the Bills moved off 418 00:21:41,480 --> 00:21:44,440 Speaker 3: of Stefan Diggs, And really they're going the Chief's route, 419 00:21:44,440 --> 00:21:46,880 Speaker 3: are they not? I mean, I don't know that they 420 00:21:46,920 --> 00:21:49,639 Speaker 3: have the skill position players of the Chiefs do. They 421 00:21:49,640 --> 00:21:51,879 Speaker 3: don't have a Travis Kelce. But they got Kincaid and 422 00:21:51,920 --> 00:21:56,040 Speaker 3: the other tight end Dawson Knox. So it's like people 423 00:21:56,040 --> 00:22:00,080 Speaker 3: are slowly starting to move off receivers, and it's like 424 00:22:00,280 --> 00:22:03,320 Speaker 3: quarterback matters the most. But I'm at the point where 425 00:22:03,400 --> 00:22:07,159 Speaker 3: I love this Niners model. No, nobody's gonna listen. If 426 00:22:07,200 --> 00:22:09,440 Speaker 3: you get your first GM job, it is a hard 427 00:22:09,480 --> 00:22:13,399 Speaker 3: ass sell to pitch what we're talking about. No owner 428 00:22:13,520 --> 00:22:15,560 Speaker 3: is gonna be like, yeah, let's do that. Let's get 429 00:22:15,560 --> 00:22:17,800 Speaker 3: our fans all worked into a ladder over this quarterback 430 00:22:17,840 --> 00:22:20,879 Speaker 3: who's our franchise guy, and then move off of him, 431 00:22:21,520 --> 00:22:24,320 Speaker 3: like it's just too ballsy, you know, I think too 432 00:22:24,359 --> 00:22:26,200 Speaker 3: many people are gonna be afraid and listen. That's why 433 00:22:26,720 --> 00:22:28,560 Speaker 3: in what was it with Sam Hinky? The one who 434 00:22:28,600 --> 00:22:32,280 Speaker 3: trust the process right, that's right? So eventually he got 435 00:22:32,359 --> 00:22:37,080 Speaker 3: rubbed out. He pushed out like two incendiary, too radical, 436 00:22:37,119 --> 00:22:39,960 Speaker 3: We can't I can't have that, can't stomach it, and 437 00:22:40,040 --> 00:22:42,320 Speaker 3: like that's the thing, that's what you kind of need 438 00:22:42,359 --> 00:22:44,560 Speaker 3: to do. So the Cowboys have totally screwed up. I 439 00:22:44,560 --> 00:22:46,920 Speaker 3: don't even know there's a good coaching job next year. 440 00:22:47,880 --> 00:22:50,960 Speaker 3: Right with with the Dak, it sounds like Dak's not 441 00:22:50,960 --> 00:22:53,840 Speaker 3: gonna be there. Dak might be your next quarterback with 442 00:22:53,840 --> 00:22:54,200 Speaker 3: the Raiders. 443 00:22:54,240 --> 00:22:54,720 Speaker 1: For all we know. 444 00:22:54,920 --> 00:22:56,879 Speaker 3: It sounds like McCarthy he ain't gonna be able to 445 00:22:56,920 --> 00:22:58,520 Speaker 3: pull this off. So it's gonna be Oh we well, 446 00:22:58,600 --> 00:23:00,040 Speaker 3: we kept, We had to pay CD, we had to 447 00:23:00,040 --> 00:23:02,400 Speaker 3: pay Michael. Okay, what else you got? And the answer 448 00:23:02,480 --> 00:23:07,280 Speaker 3: is nothing like they're gonna fall off pretty quickly. If 449 00:23:07,640 --> 00:23:09,440 Speaker 3: if they're not a good team this year, you got 450 00:23:09,440 --> 00:23:11,639 Speaker 3: to assume the fall offf is gonna be dramatic. Rob So, 451 00:23:11,880 --> 00:23:16,639 Speaker 3: I don't know, it's tough. My hope, though, is this 452 00:23:16,800 --> 00:23:21,639 Speaker 3: is just late July soon to be early August, typical stuff. 453 00:23:21,640 --> 00:23:24,159 Speaker 3: Some guy Trent Williams getting an extra week off, you know, 454 00:23:24,280 --> 00:23:26,400 Speaker 3: not having a practice, you know, Like that's my guess, 455 00:23:27,840 --> 00:23:30,080 Speaker 3: and all these will get sorted out. I don't anticipate 456 00:23:30,119 --> 00:23:32,320 Speaker 3: us starting Week one with like no CD lamb. Right, 457 00:23:32,440 --> 00:23:33,400 Speaker 3: there's no chance. 458 00:23:33,160 --> 00:23:35,640 Speaker 2: Of that, Yeah, because eventually Jerry Jones is gonna cave. 459 00:23:35,720 --> 00:23:36,320 Speaker 2: He always does. 460 00:23:36,440 --> 00:23:38,760 Speaker 4: History says, if you play hardball with Jerry Jones, he 461 00:23:38,800 --> 00:23:40,520 Speaker 4: is eventually gonna throw a with a ball and you're 462 00:23:40,520 --> 00:23:42,000 Speaker 4: gonna smack out a home run and you're gonna be 463 00:23:42,080 --> 00:23:42,880 Speaker 4: very happy about it. 464 00:23:44,520 --> 00:23:45,479 Speaker 2: Before I get to the Cowboys. 465 00:23:45,520 --> 00:23:48,320 Speaker 4: Though. One thing that you mentioned was about the Minnesota 466 00:23:48,359 --> 00:23:51,679 Speaker 4: Vikings that they're forward thinking, very analytics driven front office. 467 00:23:52,480 --> 00:23:55,680 Speaker 4: It's it's interesting you brought them up because they are 468 00:23:55,720 --> 00:23:58,640 Speaker 4: the ones who decided that there was a walking away 469 00:23:58,720 --> 00:24:02,960 Speaker 4: number from Kirk Cousins, because history says that if you're 470 00:24:03,040 --> 00:24:07,560 Speaker 4: the next quarterbackup, you are either gonna get resetting the 471 00:24:07,560 --> 00:24:10,240 Speaker 4: market or you're gonna get top five quarterback money just 472 00:24:10,280 --> 00:24:13,320 Speaker 4: because it's your turn. And they ultimately said, no, we're not. 473 00:24:13,320 --> 00:24:16,200 Speaker 2: Gonna do that. We're gonna let you go free and clear. 474 00:24:16,240 --> 00:24:17,200 Speaker 2: We're not even gonna. 475 00:24:16,960 --> 00:24:18,800 Speaker 4: Franchise and do whatever we got to do, make it, 476 00:24:18,840 --> 00:24:22,520 Speaker 4: sign and trade whatever. And the team that gets him 477 00:24:23,119 --> 00:24:25,680 Speaker 4: doubles down on the forward thinking that you brought up. 478 00:24:26,200 --> 00:24:29,160 Speaker 4: We're gonna sign Kirk Cousins. We're gonna give him slightly 479 00:24:29,320 --> 00:24:31,560 Speaker 4: less than top of the market. We're gonna give him 480 00:24:31,560 --> 00:24:34,960 Speaker 4: a mostly guaranteed contract that he wanted, and then we're 481 00:24:34,960 --> 00:24:38,600 Speaker 4: gonna draft his replacement at number eight, so that if 482 00:24:38,600 --> 00:24:41,320 Speaker 4: he plays well, great, that we got a good quarterback 483 00:24:41,320 --> 00:24:44,439 Speaker 4: at below top five top seven money. If he doesn't 484 00:24:44,480 --> 00:24:47,240 Speaker 4: play well, we're only really locked into it for two 485 00:24:47,320 --> 00:24:49,639 Speaker 4: or three years, and then by then the guy we 486 00:24:49,720 --> 00:24:52,359 Speaker 4: drafted number eight overall his rookie contract is going to 487 00:24:52,440 --> 00:24:54,560 Speaker 4: be ready to roll, and we have him at least 488 00:24:55,040 --> 00:24:56,840 Speaker 4: on a cheap deal for at least another two or 489 00:24:56,840 --> 00:24:59,600 Speaker 4: three years. So you're kind of seeing the seeds being 490 00:24:59,640 --> 00:25:04,160 Speaker 4: planned to right now with that forward thinking type of attitude. 491 00:25:04,480 --> 00:25:06,720 Speaker 4: As far as the Cowboys go, I think Adam Schefter 492 00:25:06,800 --> 00:25:09,040 Speaker 4: hit a nail on the head where he's because Dak 493 00:25:09,080 --> 00:25:12,840 Speaker 4: Prescott is not Patrick Mahomes, both in terms of talent 494 00:25:13,280 --> 00:25:15,520 Speaker 4: but also in the way that he approaches. 495 00:25:16,720 --> 00:25:17,320 Speaker 2: Finances. 496 00:25:17,640 --> 00:25:20,480 Speaker 4: Dak Prescott, to quote Andrew Brandt, is going to be 497 00:25:20,480 --> 00:25:23,600 Speaker 4: in the Business Hall of Fame because no quarterback, for 498 00:25:23,760 --> 00:25:29,240 Speaker 4: my money, has optimized his free agency better than Dak Prescott. 499 00:25:29,960 --> 00:25:33,520 Speaker 4: Every contract that he signed, he signs a shorter deal, 500 00:25:34,000 --> 00:25:36,720 Speaker 4: usually with the player option, that allows him to hit 501 00:25:36,760 --> 00:25:37,840 Speaker 4: the bite of the apple. 502 00:25:37,640 --> 00:25:39,679 Speaker 2: Again and again and again. 503 00:25:40,160 --> 00:25:42,359 Speaker 4: And with this next contract that he's going to get, 504 00:25:42,600 --> 00:25:44,840 Speaker 4: assuming he doesn't resign this offseason, which there's been no 505 00:25:44,880 --> 00:25:46,200 Speaker 4: reporting that suggests that he would. 506 00:25:47,280 --> 00:25:49,960 Speaker 2: Come summer of spring of. 507 00:25:49,920 --> 00:25:53,640 Speaker 4: Twenty twenty five, he's going to be free and clear, 508 00:25:53,760 --> 00:25:56,560 Speaker 4: no franchise tag, no transition tag, you don't got a 509 00:25:56,600 --> 00:25:58,560 Speaker 4: trade for him, you're going to be able to just 510 00:25:58,640 --> 00:26:01,360 Speaker 4: go to the highest bidder. The last time we saw 511 00:26:01,359 --> 00:26:04,760 Speaker 4: a quarterback who was not coming off an injury, just 512 00:26:04,880 --> 00:26:07,959 Speaker 4: free and clear to the highest bidder, Deshaun Watson got 513 00:26:07,960 --> 00:26:09,880 Speaker 4: a fully guaranteed two hundred and fifty. 514 00:26:09,720 --> 00:26:10,720 Speaker 2: Million dollar contract. 515 00:26:11,359 --> 00:26:12,080 Speaker 3: That's a good point. 516 00:26:12,240 --> 00:26:14,960 Speaker 4: Dak Prescott is gonna get sixty to sixty five million 517 00:26:15,040 --> 00:26:16,240 Speaker 4: dollars a year period. 518 00:26:18,040 --> 00:26:21,360 Speaker 3: Well wait, he's going sixty to sixty five. I will 519 00:26:21,359 --> 00:26:24,320 Speaker 3: push back against the sixty who's giving him that. Anyone 520 00:26:24,359 --> 00:26:27,040 Speaker 3: who needs a quarterback, we could look at the market. Well, okay, so, 521 00:26:27,200 --> 00:26:30,639 Speaker 3: but that's the thing. Who does need a quarterback? Fox 522 00:26:30,680 --> 00:26:33,680 Speaker 3: Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in the nation. 523 00:26:34,119 --> 00:26:37,560 Speaker 3: Catch all of our shows at Foxsports Radio dot com 524 00:26:37,840 --> 00:26:41,680 Speaker 3: and within the iHeartRadio app. Search FSR to listen live. 525 00:26:42,320 --> 00:26:45,040 Speaker 3: If you're looking at teams drafting in the top three 526 00:26:45,200 --> 00:26:47,840 Speaker 3: next year, I mean, we'll see what happens with Shador 527 00:26:47,920 --> 00:26:51,920 Speaker 3: Sanders and back and these guys. But I don't I 528 00:26:51,920 --> 00:26:53,720 Speaker 3: don't know. I mean, if you're drafting, would you rather 529 00:26:53,760 --> 00:26:56,520 Speaker 3: pay Dak Prescott's sixty five million sixty million a year 530 00:26:56,600 --> 00:26:58,680 Speaker 3: or draft a quarterback number one or two or three. 531 00:26:59,000 --> 00:27:00,640 Speaker 4: I know that's a no brainer the guy, But I'm 532 00:27:00,640 --> 00:27:04,200 Speaker 4: not an NFL executive exactly right, Well, that's so okay. 533 00:27:04,240 --> 00:27:06,960 Speaker 3: So let's if you take out the bottom three teams. 534 00:27:07,800 --> 00:27:12,120 Speaker 3: Let's take out let's just hypothetical Panthers, Raiders, Giants. Let's 535 00:27:12,119 --> 00:27:15,159 Speaker 3: say they draft quarterbacks won two, three. What is the 536 00:27:15,160 --> 00:27:16,520 Speaker 3: market now for Dak. 537 00:27:16,400 --> 00:27:18,040 Speaker 2: Prescott, Steelers? 538 00:27:19,840 --> 00:27:24,360 Speaker 3: Uh, okay, Steelers are in play. Okay, I'll toss out 539 00:27:24,359 --> 00:27:25,880 Speaker 3: the Jets. I mean, we don't know what Aaron Rodgers 540 00:27:25,920 --> 00:27:27,000 Speaker 3: is going to be or if he gets hurt again 541 00:27:27,160 --> 00:27:27,920 Speaker 3: you're retired. We don't know. 542 00:27:28,119 --> 00:27:31,360 Speaker 4: He's floating that out again too. Guy really can't help himselves, 543 00:27:31,440 --> 00:27:31,840 Speaker 4: of course. 544 00:27:33,320 --> 00:27:35,359 Speaker 3: It just I don't know that there's going to be 545 00:27:35,400 --> 00:27:38,360 Speaker 3: as men. And I fell victim to this last year 546 00:27:38,359 --> 00:27:40,159 Speaker 3: with the Justin Fields. When he was playing well, I 547 00:27:40,160 --> 00:27:41,800 Speaker 3: was like, listen, there's gonna be like five six teams 548 00:27:41,840 --> 00:27:44,240 Speaker 3: after him, and then Cousins kind of got there out 549 00:27:44,280 --> 00:27:48,680 Speaker 3: there and there there was no market for fields. It 550 00:27:48,800 --> 00:27:51,040 Speaker 3: evaporates like mid season. There were like a lot of 551 00:27:51,080 --> 00:27:53,840 Speaker 3: options when when he was playing well and there were 552 00:27:53,840 --> 00:27:57,040 Speaker 3: teams struggling, and was like, oh, that's interesting, Like, I 553 00:27:57,080 --> 00:28:00,200 Speaker 3: don't the Patriots drafted Drake May. I don't see them 554 00:28:00,240 --> 00:28:02,720 Speaker 3: in a year just saying let's give sixty million dollars 555 00:28:02,800 --> 00:28:05,000 Speaker 3: to Dak. I don't see a world where that happens. 556 00:28:05,400 --> 00:28:11,360 Speaker 3: Maybe Pittsburgh, like you said, Colts, no Jags, no Texans, 557 00:28:11,400 --> 00:28:15,399 Speaker 3: no Titans. If will Evi Saint the guy, you know, 558 00:28:16,080 --> 00:28:18,600 Speaker 3: then they're probably drafting one high. But if he is 559 00:28:18,640 --> 00:28:20,080 Speaker 3: the guy and they win seven or eight games, they're 560 00:28:20,080 --> 00:28:23,159 Speaker 3: probably not not paying Dak. We know the Chargers are not. 561 00:28:23,640 --> 00:28:25,840 Speaker 3: Broncos just drafted Nicks. They're probably gonna be one of 562 00:28:25,880 --> 00:28:28,960 Speaker 3: the worst teams in the league. Raiders may be an option. 563 00:28:31,040 --> 00:28:34,520 Speaker 3: Chiefs obviously not. And then it's like Eagles, no Giants, 564 00:28:34,520 --> 00:28:39,080 Speaker 3: probably drafting one, Washington just drafted one, Lions no way, Packers, 565 00:28:39,080 --> 00:28:42,000 Speaker 3: no way, Vikings I just drafted one. I don't think so. 566 00:28:42,680 --> 00:28:44,880 Speaker 3: And they wouldn't pay Kirk Cousins. So definitely not. Bears 567 00:28:44,920 --> 00:28:51,560 Speaker 3: obviously not, Tampa, probably not Saints, Saints would Saints could 568 00:28:51,600 --> 00:28:53,440 Speaker 3: be interesting. Well see I don't know the car number, 569 00:28:53,520 --> 00:28:57,960 Speaker 3: contract number, but they'll be getting a new coach. I 570 00:28:58,000 --> 00:29:05,560 Speaker 3: guess Saints could be in play. Falcons obviously Panthers, Panthers TBD, Niners, 571 00:29:05,640 --> 00:29:10,040 Speaker 3: no Rams, no Seahawks, no Cardinals. No. So it really 572 00:29:10,120 --> 00:29:12,240 Speaker 3: is like maybe two or three teams that could be 573 00:29:12,280 --> 00:29:15,280 Speaker 3: in the mix for Dak. And you know this, Rob, 574 00:29:15,440 --> 00:29:18,800 Speaker 3: you want a quarterback on the rookie deal over sixty 575 00:29:18,840 --> 00:29:22,920 Speaker 3: million dollars for sure. I almost wonder if Dallas just 576 00:29:23,320 --> 00:29:25,880 Speaker 3: is doing this exercise we just did and they're like, 577 00:29:26,160 --> 00:29:28,840 Speaker 3: let's just call this bluff. Guys, nobody's given him sixty. 578 00:29:29,520 --> 00:29:33,120 Speaker 3: Maybe we get him for under fifty. I don't know. 579 00:29:33,280 --> 00:29:37,640 Speaker 3: In a year from now, what if he doesn't play well, 580 00:29:37,760 --> 00:29:38,920 Speaker 3: He's not set up for success. 581 00:29:39,000 --> 00:29:42,240 Speaker 2: Rob, you know that. 582 00:29:42,240 --> 00:29:45,520 Speaker 4: That's everything you're saying is true. And the flip side 583 00:29:45,560 --> 00:29:47,240 Speaker 4: of that is last year he was an All Pro. 584 00:29:47,880 --> 00:29:51,960 Speaker 4: And again, the last quarterback who was not injured going 585 00:29:51,960 --> 00:29:54,640 Speaker 4: into free agency, who was in this kind of situation. Oh, 586 00:29:54,680 --> 00:29:57,160 Speaker 4: by the way, had like twenty five sexual assault cases 587 00:29:57,200 --> 00:30:01,720 Speaker 4: looming over his head, got a fully guaranteed track. True, 588 00:30:02,000 --> 00:30:03,920 Speaker 4: he was in his prime. But yet, because the way 589 00:30:04,000 --> 00:30:06,440 Speaker 4: the NFL, it's not not for long. For a reason, 590 00:30:07,240 --> 00:30:08,680 Speaker 4: I know that you and I and a lot of 591 00:30:08,720 --> 00:30:10,880 Speaker 4: smart people would say I'd rather take the young quarterback 592 00:30:11,040 --> 00:30:12,600 Speaker 4: build out the rest of my roster and gives me 593 00:30:12,640 --> 00:30:14,560 Speaker 4: a four or five year window to see what I 594 00:30:14,560 --> 00:30:16,560 Speaker 4: can build around this guy. Hopefully get the right pick. 595 00:30:17,160 --> 00:30:21,320 Speaker 4: But most of these NFL decision makers are just trying 596 00:30:21,320 --> 00:30:22,160 Speaker 4: to keep their own job. 597 00:30:22,960 --> 00:30:24,200 Speaker 2: That's how you end up with some. 598 00:30:24,160 --> 00:30:27,640 Speaker 4: Of these really shitty picks or these really shitty acquisitions 599 00:30:27,640 --> 00:30:29,480 Speaker 4: and trades and things like that, because they're like, hey, 600 00:30:29,920 --> 00:30:34,080 Speaker 4: this deal, bring up Derek Carr, for example, We're going 601 00:30:34,160 --> 00:30:37,800 Speaker 4: to go from seventy million dollars over the cap to 602 00:30:37,920 --> 00:30:41,080 Speaker 4: thirty million dollars under the cap without losing any of 603 00:30:41,120 --> 00:30:43,320 Speaker 4: our key players, so that we can sign Derek Carr, 604 00:30:43,560 --> 00:30:45,800 Speaker 4: which sounds good for the first year or two. And 605 00:30:45,840 --> 00:30:47,160 Speaker 4: so you look at their cap shitt and you're like, 606 00:30:47,160 --> 00:30:49,560 Speaker 4: holy shit, when they get to like twenty seven, twenty eight, 607 00:30:49,640 --> 00:30:53,000 Speaker 4: twenty nine, they're gonna be like at ninety million dollars 608 00:30:53,040 --> 00:30:55,040 Speaker 4: in dead cap just sitting there that they can't use. 609 00:30:56,480 --> 00:30:57,160 Speaker 2: And that's no. 610 00:30:57,320 --> 00:31:00,920 Speaker 4: Yeah, and it's a short sighted decision, but that's typically 611 00:31:00,960 --> 00:31:02,080 Speaker 4: what happens in the NFL. 612 00:31:03,720 --> 00:31:06,280 Speaker 3: We can wrap up just because I didn't even realize this, 613 00:31:06,360 --> 00:31:08,640 Speaker 3: but you made me look super smart with this Minnesota 614 00:31:08,680 --> 00:31:12,080 Speaker 3: Vikings thing. So in twenty twenty two, the Vikings go 615 00:31:12,560 --> 00:31:17,720 Speaker 3: thirteen and four with the new GM Quessi and Kevin 616 00:31:17,760 --> 00:31:20,720 Speaker 3: O'Connell in year one, Right, they go thirteen and four, 617 00:31:21,560 --> 00:31:23,440 Speaker 3: What do they decide to do? They knew there was 618 00:31:23,480 --> 00:31:25,400 Speaker 3: some smoke and mirrors involved. What do they decide to 619 00:31:25,400 --> 00:31:28,680 Speaker 3: do the next year? Hey, we're gonna move off Dalvin Cook. 620 00:31:28,680 --> 00:31:33,320 Speaker 3: And everybody was like, what dumping Dalvin Cook? They moved 621 00:31:33,320 --> 00:31:37,000 Speaker 3: off him and guess what, Dalvin Cook is pretty clearly washed. 622 00:31:37,040 --> 00:31:39,400 Speaker 3: Smart move got out in front of it. Now, they 623 00:31:39,400 --> 00:31:42,320 Speaker 3: only went seven and ten last year, but that was 624 00:31:42,320 --> 00:31:45,080 Speaker 3: the year Kirk Cousins got hurt and Kevin O'Connell made 625 00:31:45,120 --> 00:31:48,880 Speaker 3: some major lemonade out of Lemons quarterbacking the likes of 626 00:31:49,280 --> 00:31:51,880 Speaker 3: Josh Dobbs for four starts and Nick Mullins for three, 627 00:31:52,000 --> 00:31:54,480 Speaker 3: Jaron Hall for two. I mean, the fact that they 628 00:31:54,520 --> 00:31:57,200 Speaker 3: won seven games is tremendous. So then they move off 629 00:31:57,240 --> 00:32:01,720 Speaker 3: Kirk Cousins. So they moved off star running back, star quarterback, 630 00:32:02,520 --> 00:32:04,800 Speaker 3: and they talked about moving off the star wide receiver. 631 00:32:05,200 --> 00:32:09,120 Speaker 3: Maybe you're right, Rob, Maybe the Minnesota Vikings are the 632 00:32:09,240 --> 00:32:12,760 Speaker 3: team that is forward thinking enough to say we're gonna 633 00:32:12,760 --> 00:32:16,640 Speaker 3: tinker and we're gonna draft quarterbacks every year and we're 634 00:32:16,640 --> 00:32:19,920 Speaker 3: gonna not pay wide receivers and run. You know, maybe 635 00:32:19,960 --> 00:32:21,960 Speaker 3: now it's tough to stuff like that, Like Justin Jefferson 636 00:32:21,960 --> 00:32:24,280 Speaker 3: is one of the popular players in the league. You 637 00:32:24,320 --> 00:32:26,320 Speaker 3: know what trading Justin Jefferson is gonna do to your 638 00:32:26,520 --> 00:32:30,760 Speaker 3: What the pr hit in Minnesota is like, that's just brutal. Anyways, 639 00:32:31,120 --> 00:32:35,480 Speaker 3: that's a long Friday podcast to take you into the weekend. Everybody, 640 00:32:35,600 --> 00:32:39,719 Speaker 3: enjoy the Olympic festivities and we will talk to you Monday.