Speaker 1: A big day here with the Jaguars.
Speaker 2: We're going to talk a lot about Fred Taylor today,
Speaker 2: but you guys, what are your favorite Fred moments or
Speaker 2: your favorite friends?
Speaker 3: There are so many, but one of my favorite, which
Speaker 3: is often forgotten, is the fact that it week three
Speaker 3: of the nineteen ninety eight season, James Stewart was hurt
Speaker 3: against the Baltimore Ravens on the first or second play
Speaker 3: of the game. So Fred came in and on the
Speaker 3: third play of the game took his first hand off
Speaker 3: and went fifty two yards for a touchdown. It was
Speaker 3: a huge indication of what he was going to be.
Speaker 4: Yeah, there's so many from that year. I was fortunate
Speaker 4: enough to cover Fred from ninety eight to two thousand.
Speaker 4: I'm gonna go with another moment from his rookie year,
Speaker 4: the one that Fred has told me often was his favorite.
Speaker 4: The Jaguars are down against the Bucks out here in
Speaker 4: one of the I think one of the great games
Speaker 4: that the Jaguars played in that era. He went Brian of.
Speaker 5: The yards seventy yard the buccaneer sideline.
Speaker 4: Fred had hung out with Warren Sap that summer. Warren
Speaker 4: had told him they were going to get him in
Speaker 4: that game, Fred really didn't say much. He was a
Speaker 4: quiet kid. And then Fred danced into the end zone
Speaker 4: and has always sort of held that over Warren's that set.
Speaker 4: That's Fred's favorite moment and it sure stands out to
Speaker 4: me as well.
Speaker 6: You know, he is off Taylor running left cuts. In fact,
Speaker 6: he's got a hold there. He is thirty Taylor rock
Speaker 6: side forty there he goes to the forty five to fifty.
Speaker 4: It's a foot race.
Speaker 6: Forty Taylor, thirty Taylor to the twenty, takes to the ten.
Speaker 6: He's pulled down, but he gets into the episode touchdown
Speaker 6: in the first play.
Speaker 5: Of the game.
Speaker 2: How about that one of our Monday Night football moments,
Speaker 2: and of course a great moment for Fred Taylor. Our
Speaker 2: big thing today has to be finalist Fred Fred Taylor
Speaker 2: making it to the finalist list for the Pro Football
Speaker 2: Hall of Fame for the first time. Obviously we're very
Speaker 2: excited about it. Brian, what does the step mean for Fred?
Speaker 3: Well, I think he is one step closer now towards
Speaker 3: knowing that he's going to get into the Hall of Fame.
Speaker 3: I mean, I believe that I always have and I
Speaker 3: look at that list and there are great players on
Speaker 3: that list, but I don't think any of them are
Speaker 3: better than Fred John And so for Fred.
Speaker 5: It was about getting into the room. And people could
Speaker 5: hold it against him that he didn't have as many.
Speaker 3: Pro Bowls as other players, did have as many touchdowns
Speaker 3: as some other players, but he had big moments in
Speaker 3: big games and on big stages. Remember his two hundred
Speaker 3: and forty three yards at three Rivers Stadium in two
Speaker 3: thousand and four touchdowns against the Pittsburgh Steelers. I mean,
Speaker 3: he had those kinds of moments. So for Fred, I
Speaker 3: think this means that he's.
Speaker 4: On the path. Yeah, I think he's getting in. I
Speaker 4: don't know it's gonna be this year. This can be
Speaker 4: a process, as we all know, and it's a weird process,
Speaker 4: not always a fair process. But getting in the room
Speaker 4: is very important in this deal because when you're not
Speaker 4: in the final fifteen, the voters think about you and
Speaker 4: they look at you, but they don't talk to each
Speaker 4: other that much about you. There's not as much convincing.
Speaker 4: And I think once they start, this month will now
Speaker 4: be about these voters making calls to each other, making
Speaker 4: calls to people who played watching. And I've always thought
Speaker 4: once the voters go back and start watching Fred's highlights,
Speaker 4: his big moments, and they see the unbelievable combination of
Speaker 4: size and strength.
Speaker 5: It's rare.
Speaker 4: Maybe Oj Simpson had it. There's been a few guys
Speaker 4: in league history who have had his combination of size
Speaker 4: and strength, not many and speed. Once they start seeing
Speaker 4: the highlights, once they start seeing the moves and the moments,
Speaker 4: I think his status will rise among voters. Maybe not
Speaker 4: this year, but I think it's a sooner rather than
Speaker 4: later now for Fred. I hope so.
Speaker 3: Sam Cauvares, the longtime sports director at WJXT Channel four
Speaker 3: here in town, he's the voter who matters now because
Speaker 3: he's the guy who's going to have to make the
Speaker 3: case to all those other voters. Of course, he covered
Speaker 3: Fred through all those years, and it's going to be
Speaker 3: up to him just by himself. There'll be a lot
Speaker 3: of people that will be assisting him in putting together
Speaker 3: the package.
Speaker 5: You know, the.
Speaker 3: Pitch if you will, to all those other voters. So
Speaker 3: he's got a lot of work to do. Luckily, he's
Speaker 3: got a lot to work with With Fred Taylor.
Speaker 2: I was gonna say a lot of the video is
Speaker 2: definitely gonna help out that pitch, because if you watch it,
Speaker 2: you can see with your own eyes he's certainly a.
Speaker 1: Hall of Famer.
Speaker 2: We're gonna talk a little bit more about Fred later
Speaker 2: on in the show, but right now we'll come back
Speaker 2: to present day for our second big thing, which is will.
Speaker 1: He or won't he.
Speaker 2: Trevor Lawrence suffered his fourth injury so far this season.
Speaker 2: It's an ac sprain in his throwing shoulder. He talked
Speaker 2: a little bit yesterday about what it's gonna take, what
Speaker 2: his practice schedule is gonna be like to sleep.
Speaker 7: That's the plan right now. I mean, obviously things can change,
Speaker 7: but yeah, as of right now, don't plan on doing
Speaker 7: much today and we'll see tomorrow. Kind of take it
Speaker 7: day by day, but yeah, not really gonna throw any
Speaker 7: to day and from there, like I said, it's just
Speaker 7: you never know how things are gonna heal up and
Speaker 7: how quickly you're gonna recover. But right now it's still
Speaker 7: and still kind of working through the beginning stages of
Speaker 7: you know, getting back, so we'll kind of see how
Speaker 7: it goes. But that's the plan right now.
Speaker 2: John, We saw that Trevor was physically at practice. He
Speaker 2: did not participate in practices out there in shorts, just
Speaker 2: kind of going through all the game plan and everything.
Speaker 2: Is this another situation where we won't know until closer
Speaker 2: to Friday or Saturday whether he's gonna.
Speaker 4: Play well this one? Man, I know till Sunday. I
Speaker 4: don't really have a gut on this one. I guess
Speaker 4: I've guessed and projected so many times this season that
Speaker 4: it all sort of feels lost. Now. I think he'll
Speaker 4: play it if capable. If I'm Doug Peterson, I'll go
Speaker 4: back to what I've said all week, Brian. I would
Speaker 4: think about the practice time. I would think about the
Speaker 4: continuity element. Not that Trevor necessarily can't do it, but
Speaker 4: how much timing does he have with receivers based on
Speaker 4: the week? Feels like that's been a thing. I would
Speaker 4: worry about that a little bit. But I kind of
Speaker 4: think he goes.
Speaker 5: My gut is is that he doesn't.
Speaker 3: John, and I think if you're a round this league
Speaker 3: for any length of time, you start to look at
Speaker 3: transactions on Tuesdays and start.
Speaker 5: To read tea leaves.
Speaker 3: And they went and signed Mad Barkley off of the
Speaker 3: Giants practice squad, and now they had to bring him
Speaker 3: to the active roster.
Speaker 5: But they could have just elevated E. J. Perry.
Speaker 3: I mean, if they thought that there was a legitimate
Speaker 3: chance that Trevor was gonna be able to go, you
Speaker 3: know you wouldn't. I don't think you would have gone
Speaker 3: to this trouble to bring in a guy that Doug
Speaker 3: has some familiarity with. I look at that, and I
Speaker 3: think there's just this is this is one injury too
Speaker 3: far down the road, and this is his throwing shoulder.
Speaker 5: I like to read body language.
Speaker 3: I listen carefully, I pay attention, and my gut told
Speaker 3: me yesterday that this is gonna be the one that
Speaker 3: he's not gonna be able to go, and they're gonna
Speaker 3: have to try to beat the Carolina Panthers without him
Speaker 3: this week, and I think they can do that. Keep
Speaker 3: in mind, you know, this is not just a decision
Speaker 3: for this year. This is a decision for his offseason.
Speaker 3: That's his throwing shoulder. And if you want to know
Speaker 3: what happens when you're throwing shoulder ac joint is injured,
Speaker 3: just look at Anthony Richard and the surgical procedure that
Speaker 3: he had for the Colts and his timetable for coming
Speaker 3: back and being.
Speaker 5: Ready to go.
Speaker 3: So I think they're cautious with this thing, and I
Speaker 3: just have the sense he's not going this week. But
Speaker 3: that's there's no insight other than what I just told you.
Speaker 3: I got thirty years of doing this guy and reading
Speaker 3: the tea leaves.
Speaker 2: We'll try to figure things out. We'll talk it out
Speaker 2: a little bit as well. Our final big thing today
Speaker 2: is turnovers. So Trevor has been playing hurt for some time,
Speaker 2: whether that's him playing hurt or some of the other
Speaker 2: communication issues, there's been a lot of turnovers, especially in
Speaker 2: the past couple of weeks, and they've hurt this team.
Speaker 1: And Les Taylor talked about that yesterday.
Speaker 8: You know, I think he takes that very personal. He's
Speaker 8: very accountable. That's one of the things that we really
Speaker 8: like about Trevor. You know, he understands where his responsibilities
Speaker 8: lie in terms of protecting football for this team, and
Speaker 8: so he takes responsibility of that.
Speaker 1: Ryan. He's accountabile. He always owns up to it.
Speaker 2: But he seems to be making a lot of those
Speaker 2: mistakes lately, a little bit more than we're used to.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he leads the NFL over the last three year
Speaker 3: in turnovers, and I wrote this for quick thoughts after
Speaker 3: the game on Sunday. You know, he's kind of approaching
Speaker 3: Josh Allen's territory. Alan's a guy who, since he came
Speaker 3: into the league in twenty eighteen, has led the league
Speaker 3: in turnovers. Now Allen has more than made up with
Speaker 3: it with ninety seven touchdowns and kept his team in contention.
Speaker 3: And that's where you hope Trevor gets that he slows
Speaker 3: down the rate.
Speaker 5: Of turnovers, takes better care of the football.
Speaker 3: Tom Coffin John always used to have a saying and
Speaker 3: he'd say it with a sneer on his face and
Speaker 3: callous disregard for the football. I don't think he has
Speaker 3: disregard for the football. I just think on Sunday he
Speaker 3: was off and he just has a tendency turned the
Speaker 3: ball over because he's not quite as careful as he
Speaker 3: needs to be. This is something that he's gonna have
Speaker 3: to focus on because he's gonna be asked about it
Speaker 3: until it stops.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and they tend to snowball. They snowball on Trevor
Speaker 4: a little bit, and he's certainly a snowball. In the
Speaker 4: last couple of weeks, I attribute a lot of it
Speaker 4: to especially last week, it feels like timing stuff. It
Speaker 4: feels like young receiver stuff when he's throwing, when he
Speaker 4: he's in the pocket, he said yesterday, And I think
Speaker 4: it's priority one figure out how to protect the ball
Speaker 4: in the pocket. It's one thing to gets sacked, it's
Speaker 4: another thing to fumble as prodigiously as he does. I mean,
Speaker 4: he fumbels a lot in the pocket and it hurts you.
Speaker 4: Beyond that, though, what's really hurting them lately first half season,
Speaker 4: first eight games, I think the numbers thirteen turnovers, they
Speaker 4: give up nineteen points fifteen turnovers since week seven, sixty
Speaker 4: nine points off up. It's caused an avalanche and it's
Speaker 4: as press set. Those numbers are the reason for the slot.
Speaker 3: And the defense has not been as productive at taking
Speaker 3: the bowl away in the second half of the season
Speaker 3: as well, which hasn't helped.
Speaker 2: Yes, the turnover differential definitely not great right now. That's
Speaker 2: something they need to work on as well going forward.
Speaker 2: To stay with us here on jag Zam, we're going
Speaker 2: to talk more about Fred Taylor's career and his resume
Speaker 2: going into the Hall of Fame, hopefully on this time
Speaker 2: around as a finalist.
Speaker 6: There he goes Freig Taylor, breaks the tackles, he's on
Speaker 6: the run, spend fine touchdown Freig Taylor and Checksonville reclaims
Speaker 6: the league.
Speaker 5: Hollis puts it up and threw in the check.
Speaker 6: Wars are winners over the Denver Broncos.
Speaker 2: That on Monday night football moment for Fred always helps
Speaker 2: when you can have those big games on a primetime
Speaker 2: stage so other people remember it as well.
Speaker 3: If you go back and look at that game, Fred
Speaker 3: had been hampered by a hamstring all season.
Speaker 5: Long, and he hadn't played a whole lot.
Speaker 3: That was a Monday night game and homefield advantage was
Speaker 3: on the line for the playoffs, and Fred didn't start
Speaker 3: that game and didn't play a whole lot till the
Speaker 3: fourth quarter. That may have been his third or fourth carry,
Speaker 3: and of course it was the game winning touchdown. And
Speaker 3: I love the fact that they show the highlight there
Speaker 3: at the end that about the four yard line he
Speaker 3: just put sort of jumped effortlessly from the four into
Speaker 3: the end zone. I mean, he was such a gifted
Speaker 3: football player physical specimen.
Speaker 5: He could do things that other people couldn't.
Speaker 2: What does this step mean to this process obviously we
Speaker 2: know he's made the semi finalist five times before, but
Speaker 2: to get to the final group to be heard, what
Speaker 2: is that process like and what does this mean?
Speaker 4: Well, as we talked about it, it puts you in
Speaker 4: the room and the conversation, and that's when the voters
Speaker 4: start talking to each other. Hey, sell me on your guy,
Speaker 4: tell me why he should be in. It's when the
Speaker 4: voters start calling people in their area, in their world
Speaker 4: that they know, a team president, a scout who scouted
Speaker 4: this guy, a head coach, a player who played against him,
Speaker 4: and they start trying to figure out who should be in.
Speaker 4: One thing that I think fans and observers of the process,
Speaker 4: when their guy doesn't get in, they get very upset
Speaker 4: and it's understandable, I can tell you from it, and
Speaker 4: they criticize the process. There's no great process for the
Speaker 4: Hall of Fame. There's not another one out there that's better.
Speaker 4: What I can tell you is it is from knowing
Speaker 4: the people and being at Super Bowls when I've heard
Speaker 4: guys talking about this. The voters care about it. They
Speaker 4: spend a lot of time not with their jobs, but
Speaker 4: with talking to other people, asking questions, trying to get
Speaker 4: it right. They all want to get it right. There's
Speaker 4: fifteen guys. As Bisselli said multiple times, everybody on the
Speaker 4: fifteen list deserves to be in. So you're talking about
Speaker 4: sometimes it's not even the most deserving guy that year.
Speaker 4: It's how it falls. But there is a process in
Speaker 4: this that a candidate gains momentum sometimes over years. I
Speaker 4: thought it happened with Tony. The more he's talked about
Speaker 4: then all of a sudden he finished his twelfth that
Speaker 4: year seventh and more and more voters say, you know what,
Speaker 4: I didn't vote for him this year, but at some
Speaker 4: point we got to get him in. And that's sort
Speaker 4: of the momentum that can build for a guy. And
Speaker 4: I think that's what will happened with Fred. I'm not
Speaker 4: sure he gets in this year, but I think once
Speaker 4: people start talking about him and watching him again, the
Speaker 4: momentum is gonna build for Fred.
Speaker 3: How many locks did you see on that list? I mean,
Speaker 3: how many guys do you say, well, he absolutely is
Speaker 3: going in. I mean, I tell you Julius Peppers, I thought,
Speaker 3: Dwight Freeney for sure, Antonio Gates, Andre Johnson. I mean,
Speaker 3: I can make the case for those guys, but they
Speaker 3: have to go in.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't know. I but again to your point,
Speaker 4: I think when you mentioned those guys, I covered Dwight
Speaker 4: and I think he's a Hall of Famer. When I
Speaker 4: looked at the list, I didn't think, boy, he's getting
Speaker 4: in this year. I covered Reggie think he's All of Famer.
Speaker 4: Of Reggie Wayne, I don't know there's any locks, but
Speaker 4: I think what might hurt Fred this year is there
Speaker 4: are a number of guys and when you talk to
Speaker 4: committee members, they talk about it, well, so and so
Speaker 4: has been waiting for a long time. You know, Andre
Speaker 4: Johnson has been in this process for a while. Reggie
Speaker 4: Wayne is a lot of guys who've been in it
Speaker 4: for a while. Since it might be a year where
Speaker 4: the voters say, Okay, we're gonna take this year and
Speaker 4: get some guys in who need to be in. Because
Speaker 4: it shouldn't work that way, but that's how it does.
Speaker 4: At the same time, Fred's the only running back, and
Speaker 4: there wasn't a running back last year either who got in.
Speaker 4: There's gonna be nobody else at his position that bumps
Speaker 4: him down in this process. That kind of thing can matter.
Speaker 3: Teamage too, right, I mean, you wouldn't think that Dwight
Speaker 3: Freemy and Reggie would get in the same year.
Speaker 4: Yeah, probably not. It usually doesn't work that way. And
Speaker 4: other position groups usually they usually but often multiple wide
Speaker 4: multiple position groups don't get in. I think he has
Speaker 4: a chance. I'd be surprised if somebody has been on
Speaker 4: the ballot five times. The semi finalist sort of races
Speaker 4: through the process and gets in as a finalist first year.
Speaker 4: But the other side of that statement is this voting
Speaker 4: process often surprises you, so it could easily happen.
Speaker 5: You know, you can go back and look at a
Speaker 5: lot of different things about Fred. Randy Moss was the
Speaker 5: Rookie of.
Speaker 3: The Year in two thousand and a party in nineteen
Speaker 3: ninety eight, he had seventeen touchdowns. Fred had seventeen touchdowns
Speaker 3: as a rookie, and four of sixty yards or longer,
Speaker 3: and some of those were game winning sorts of plays.
Speaker 3: I think people have forgotten that in two thousand he
Speaker 3: had a stretch of nine consecutive games where he rushed
Speaker 3: for at least one hundred yards. At that time, only
Speaker 3: Marcus Allen and Barry Sanders had ever done more than that,
Speaker 3: and since then only Chris Johnson from the Tennessee Titans
Speaker 3: has done at least ten. So you're putting into the
Speaker 3: elite company.
Speaker 5: I shouldn't say that you're putting him. He put himself
Speaker 5: an elite company with the way that he played.
Speaker 4: I would put that's the last time I covered Fred
Speaker 4: was two thousand the street that Brian talked about as
Speaker 4: a Jaguars team that year that was falling off of
Speaker 4: what they had been. I I would put that year
Speaker 4: up with the forty nine touchdown season that I covered
Speaker 4: a Manning as the two most impressive years. Maybe throw
Speaker 4: more Eas's rushing title because of what he did when
Speaker 4: he had no help around him. But two thousand eleven
Speaker 4: his year that year nine stra eight hundred yard games,
Speaker 4: and I forget the stat I knew was with the
Speaker 4: tu an unbelievable number of forty yard runs. Mixed in
Speaker 4: with that his ability to break the long run in
Speaker 4: a league where that's hard to do because of the
Speaker 4: speed and size of defenses. I mean, he's he's a
Speaker 4: Hall of Famer to me.
Speaker 3: At some point he once was aggravated with me because
Speaker 3: he heard me say that I thought he was the
Speaker 3: best one yard back in football and I laughed, I said, fred,
Speaker 3: I didn't say one yard. I said one yard line,
Speaker 3: meaning he could score from your one yard line. Because
Speaker 3: of two hundred and thirty pounds, he was tough to
Speaker 3: keep out of the end zone, but he could score
Speaker 3: from his as well. His ninety yard touchdown run in
Speaker 3: the AFC Visual Playoff game here against Miami, which was
Speaker 3: undoubtedly the fastest defense in football that year. That's Jason Taylor,
Speaker 3: that's Brock Marion, Sam Madison, and he made them look
Speaker 3: silly as he made them run all the way from
Speaker 3: sideline to sideline and then just went right.
Speaker 5: Down the middle for ninety yards. It was spectacular.
Speaker 3: Had a thirty eight yard touchdown in that game as well,
Speaker 3: where he stopped and started him at four different times
Speaker 3: and then finally got up the sideline and it was
Speaker 3: like the Dolphins were like, how did he do that?
Speaker 3: And just watched him go. It was breathtaking. And I
Speaker 3: have to say a quick story. In nineteen ninety eight,
Speaker 3: Tom Coffin was really in on Curtis Enis, the big
Speaker 3: running back from Penn State. He really wanted that big,
Speaker 3: bruising guy. It reminded him of Oh J Anderson, who
Speaker 3: played with him at the New York Giants. But Fred's
Speaker 3: Pro Day was held on a Wednesday, and I had
Speaker 3: gotten word back then there was no Internet or social media.
Speaker 3: I'd gotten word from some scouting buddies that Fred had
Speaker 3: run really fast, really fast. So I'm sitting in the
Speaker 3: radio studio because we did a Wednesday night show, and
Speaker 3: Tom comes walking down the hallway said, Hey, Tom, was
Speaker 3: Fred as fast as everyone said? And he stuck his
Speaker 3: head and he goes, you know, big eyes. He went
Speaker 3: four three, four point three, and then just turned and
Speaker 3: walked and went they're taking fread. I mean, at that moment,
Speaker 3: you just knew he was so blown away by the
Speaker 3: size speed ratio. Two hundred and thirty pounds to run
Speaker 3: four point three and I think Fred will take you
Speaker 3: ran four point two nine at the at the Florida
Speaker 3: Pro Day.
Speaker 5: It was just it was it was obvious.
Speaker 3: And Curtisinas never did turn into a great back, he
Speaker 3: had knee problems. And Fred is a Hall of Famer.
Speaker 4: Here's what it's remarkable about the four two and now
Speaker 4: I was actually there and it's one of the few
Speaker 4: times that are Pro day that you heard scouts whoa
Speaker 4: like And it was across the field and you heard
Speaker 4: a collective whoa. Fred also told me later, and I
Speaker 4: think he's he's okay with me telling this. He didn't train,
Speaker 4: that's yeah, he showed up. He said he went. You know,
Speaker 4: he was young. He went to a lot of parties
Speaker 4: after his Florida season, and he he I'm sure he
Speaker 4: may exaggerate it a little bit, but it was not
Speaker 4: a situation. I think this is right. I think he
Speaker 4: told me that he went to a speed camp, may
Speaker 4: have been Shaws maybe in whatever one's And after a
Speaker 4: couple of days they told me it's not thanking do
Speaker 4: for him. Yeah, because he was you should teach the class. Yeah,
Speaker 4: we're trying to get people where you are. I think
Speaker 4: that's right, and if it's not, I apologize to Fred.
Speaker 4: But I do know that he told me once that
Speaker 4: he was not in his best shape when he ran
Speaker 4: his four two nine.
Speaker 3: So this thing about that, yeah, it's unbelievable, and I
Speaker 3: think we should just I mean, because at some point
Speaker 3: we've got to get off the air.
Speaker 5: I'll just leave you with this. Fred showed up.
Speaker 3: In nineteen ninety eight on a Suzuki Samurai right on
Speaker 3: a rocket and he had the gold teeth in and
Speaker 3: he ate. He was always had a bag of burger
Speaker 3: king or something. He was just this brash, just like
Speaker 3: you know, show up and run.
Speaker 5: And from who he was.
Speaker 3: Is this brash rookie to who he is now as
Speaker 3: this superstar you know, father, husband, businessman, member of his
Speaker 3: community in South Florida. In here, there are so many
Speaker 3: people who are so proud of Fred Taylor, the man,
Speaker 3: Fred Taylor, the Jaguar football player, Fred Taylor, the Jaguar representative.
Speaker 3: It was an incredible journey. He lost a lot of money.
Speaker 3: His wife Andy helped him get it back with Drew Rosenhaus.
Speaker 3: His story is one of always overcoming the circumstances, whether
Speaker 3: it was being from Belglade, Florida, or he had an
Speaker 3: unfortunate incident with a backpack when he was a freshman
Speaker 3: at the University of Florida, or whether it was you know,
Speaker 3: his diet or his hamstring or the money that he lost.
Speaker 3: And he never let know define him ever, And so
Speaker 3: I don't expect that the Hall of Fame will be
Speaker 3: able to tell him no either.
Speaker 5: He is truly somebody that I am proud to know.
Speaker 1: Very cool. We've heard so much about him.
Speaker 2: I will give my small outside perspective because before I
Speaker 2: came here, obviously, you guys know I all came in April.
Speaker 2: If you said Jaguars to me, Fred Taylor is absolutely
Speaker 2: the name that comes to my mind. And I think
Speaker 2: that's very relevant to everyone else, especially when you're pitching
Speaker 2: somebody you already know Fred that's top of mind. And
Speaker 2: then when you look back at the video like I
Speaker 2: have been this past week or so, it really jumps
Speaker 2: off the tape to you.
Speaker 1: So it's just a matter of time for Fred.
Speaker 2: And of course we'll have tons of time to talk
Speaker 2: about Fred as this process goes forward.
Speaker 1: Stay with us here on Jagsam.
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Speaker 4: I don't know about thinking about it like that. I
Speaker 4: just just.
Speaker 5: Go out there and be me.
Speaker 3: Let's kind of always have That's kind of always That's
Speaker 3: kind of how I always have been.
Speaker 4: That's just the player I am.
Speaker 7: That's the person I am, so never trying.
Speaker 3: To force anything or try too hard to show anything.
Speaker 4: I'll just go out there and be myself and just
Speaker 4: let it.
Speaker 7: Just let it whatever, show the chart.
Speaker 2: Welcome back to jag Zam here and Cam Robinson's going
Speaker 2: to be back in the mix. His window was activated.
Speaker 2: Everything goes to plan. He'll be back on the field
Speaker 2: this week. And John, I know he's your player that
Speaker 2: you're going to talk about. But the cool thing about
Speaker 2: Cam is Cam brings an energy. Cam brings something to
Speaker 2: see and Doug Peterson mentioned it earlier this week. We
Speaker 2: all have seen it before, but he doesn't think about
Speaker 2: it that way because he's just being cam.
Speaker 4: Yeah. I you know there keeps on being talked better
Speaker 4: not being here next year.
Speaker 1: I can't.
Speaker 4: I hope that I get it. I get to talk.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 4: They need that guy. I mean, you know, I get
Speaker 4: everything else, but I don't see that guy walking out
Speaker 4: of the locker room. So uh, and I'm gonna go
Speaker 4: ready for it, you know. And something needs to happen
Speaker 4: around here. Something needs to change. I'm gonna blow your
Speaker 4: mind here. He won't now he will. First, he won't.
Speaker 4: He won't stay on IR this week. He'll be activated.
Speaker 4: He will play, and he will bring the energy that
Speaker 4: we're talking about. There's something about this team when he plays.
Speaker 4: I think I think there's six and one with him,
Speaker 4: U two and six without. I mean, whatever it is,
Speaker 4: they're much better with them then without him. And I
Speaker 4: can't say that he's going to make them a great
Speaker 4: running team, but he might make them better enough for
Speaker 4: them to function in the offense better than they have that.
Speaker 4: I'm sorry that was a lot script.
Speaker 5: Won't he will? He will? He might? Right, you're a
Speaker 5: friend setter.
Speaker 4: That's the kind of guy.
Speaker 5: Yeah. Oh no, yeah, we do know, don't We absolutely know.
Speaker 4: Don't tell me to stay in the bottom.
Speaker 3: I was one of those people who thought that Cam
Speaker 3: Robinson's salary cap number. He's an eighteen point seventy five
Speaker 3: million dollar savings and with all the players that they
Speaker 3: had to sign, I thought he was going to end
Speaker 3: up being a salary cap casualty, especially with Walker Little.
Speaker 3: But Little hasn't played as well as Cam Robinson, and
Speaker 3: all of a sudden, a bunch of these guys who
Speaker 3: who you thought you were gonna pay haven't met that
Speaker 3: standard and you probably don't have to go out and pay.
Speaker 3: So my sense now is you're keeping Cam Robinson. You know,
Speaker 3: you may ask him to renegotiate a little bit, but
Speaker 3: if I'm him, I say I'll stand on my number.
Speaker 4: Yeah. There's just certain guys right like you look at him,
Speaker 4: you see him talking there. He plays like a man
Speaker 4: out there.
Speaker 1: And be a loss in several different ways.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and he is the ass kicker that you need
Speaker 3: on the offensive line. You got to have one of
Speaker 3: those guys, and he's it.
Speaker 4: He's the me of the locker room.
Speaker 5: Oh I love it. I'm going with Trayvon Walker.
Speaker 3: Did you know that Trayvon Walker has more sacks right
Speaker 3: Hudgins than the right just in cases you're wondering, and
Speaker 3: what was people that thought that Aiden Hutchinson was a
Speaker 3: better football player. Trayvon Walker is a terrific football player
Speaker 3: and he is coming on strong and he will keep
Speaker 3: that going this week.
Speaker 5: I don't know.
Speaker 3: He won't get three sacks necessarily in the next two games,
Speaker 3: but he might approach that ten sack number, which seems
Speaker 3: to be the barometer for people believing in players.
Speaker 5: I know this.
Speaker 3: This defense would not be as good without him. He
Speaker 3: is a dominant player on his side of the line,
Speaker 3: and he is learning how to pass rush. And the
Speaker 3: way he finished that sack against the Ravens and Lamar
Speaker 3: Jackson told me everything I needed to see. He's always
Speaker 3: right there. He's still learning the moves right. He always
Speaker 3: is right there. He's got to figure a couple of
Speaker 3: things out. But it looks to me John like he
Speaker 3: might be figuring those things out. So it was he
Speaker 3: will he won't.
Speaker 5: He might. He might. For me, you can't stack to
Speaker 5: the script, but that's you.
Speaker 4: I mean, I'm I'm more of a rebel.
Speaker 2: You're well, I'm gonna do a little hot take with
Speaker 2: my he will, he won't, He might because we didn't
Speaker 2: do hot takes this week.
Speaker 1: So my person is c J.
Speaker 2: Bethard because I think he will play on Sunday against
Speaker 2: the Panthers. I just get a little bit of an
Speaker 2: inkling that because it's Trevor's throwing shoulder, it's a little
Speaker 2: bit different. Plus what we've seen out of Trevor when
Speaker 2: he doesn't practice hasn't translated very well. So I think
Speaker 2: CJ will be out there for them, and he won't
Speaker 2: be challenging anybody for the starting job. I don't think
Speaker 2: he's taking a job from Trevor, but he might impress
Speaker 2: you a little bit with his connections. As we've mentioned,
Speaker 2: a lot of the starting wide receivers are out. We
Speaker 2: don't know if say Jones is going to be available.
Speaker 2: Christian Kirk obviously out for quite some time. But when
Speaker 2: you see a Parker Washington, when you see a Cook's
Speaker 2: out there, when you see even he's got a little
Speaker 2: bit of chemistry with Calvin Ridley as well, you might
Speaker 2: be surprised at what CJ is able to do with
Speaker 2: this offense. And it kind of is are a little
Speaker 2: bit different in the terms of obviously you don't have
Speaker 2: the talent that Trevor brings to the field, not saying
Speaker 2: that whatsoever, but CJ has a way of setting things
Speaker 2: up for the wide receivers to make those plays, and
Speaker 2: when you get it to Calvin, then Calvin can do
Speaker 2: what he does. I think that might be interesting to
Speaker 2: see if they give some significant time to see j Well,
Speaker 2: it starts this game, and.
Speaker 3: You're right, besides the shoulder, you know, he's the guy
Speaker 3: who's getting the significant reps on the practice field with
Speaker 3: guys like Washington, with Elijah Cooks, with Tim Jones, these
Speaker 3: guys who are gonna have to contribute. He's out there
Speaker 3: getting the reps in Trevor's not. So I get the talent,
Speaker 3: there's no doubt. I mean, one was the number one
Speaker 3: overall picking the draft for a reason. But this week
Speaker 3: it just seems to me like you're.
Speaker 2: Right, especially when you take on the Panthers. Not to
Speaker 2: discount the Panthers because they're playing better than the Jaguars
Speaker 2: are right now, but this seems like a game where
Speaker 2: this can be done and with a good practice week,
Speaker 2: this is something that can definitely happen. Stay with us
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Speaker 1: A lot of urgency from Evan Ingram.
Speaker 2: You know, he's been a big target as he approaches
Speaker 2: that catches all time catches. I know Jimmy Smith has
Speaker 2: the numbers, but Evan's getting up there and it's impressive
Speaker 2: for a tight end to be able to do that
Speaker 2: as well. We're looking forward to this Panthers game. For me,
Speaker 2: I don't know what you guys a looking for. I'm
Speaker 2: looking for just the effort out there, the focus they've
Speaker 2: been lacking confidence. I just want to see them get
Speaker 2: out there, get something early and just let that momentum
Speaker 2: ride because they just got to get a win to
Speaker 2: kind of get over this hump.
Speaker 5: In my mind, I'd like to see him grind went out,
Speaker 5: you know.
Speaker 3: I mean, everyone wants to see a forty two to
Speaker 3: seven kind of game, but I don't think if you
Speaker 3: have your backup quarterback, especially.
Speaker 5: That you can count on that.
Speaker 3: I just want to see him get through and get
Speaker 3: to the end of the game and have something that
Speaker 3: they can go, hey, we're in that this week.
Speaker 5: We're back on track.
Speaker 4: Yeah, get a lead, make the Panthers play uphill and
Speaker 4: show them the better team. You're the better team, play
Speaker 4: like it, and they've played They haven't played like that
Speaker 4: enough lately, and I think they will, but we got
Speaker 4: to see it.
Speaker 1: Have to go out and prove it.
Speaker 2: Season is on the line against the Panthers this week,
Speaker 2: and of course we hope you guys enjoy the game.
Speaker 2: We'll be back here on Jagszam next week to go
Speaker 2: over everything that goes down.