1 00:00:01,480 --> 00:00:02,840 Speaker 1: A big day here with the Jaguars. 2 00:00:02,840 --> 00:00:04,840 Speaker 2: We're going to talk a lot about Fred Taylor today, 3 00:00:04,880 --> 00:00:07,680 Speaker 2: but you guys, what are your favorite Fred moments or 4 00:00:07,680 --> 00:00:08,319 Speaker 2: your favorite friends? 5 00:00:08,520 --> 00:00:10,360 Speaker 3: There are so many, but one of my favorite, which 6 00:00:10,400 --> 00:00:12,480 Speaker 3: is often forgotten, is the fact that it week three 7 00:00:13,000 --> 00:00:15,400 Speaker 3: of the nineteen ninety eight season, James Stewart was hurt 8 00:00:15,400 --> 00:00:18,000 Speaker 3: against the Baltimore Ravens on the first or second play 9 00:00:18,000 --> 00:00:20,119 Speaker 3: of the game. So Fred came in and on the 10 00:00:20,160 --> 00:00:22,640 Speaker 3: third play of the game took his first hand off 11 00:00:22,880 --> 00:00:25,040 Speaker 3: and went fifty two yards for a touchdown. It was 12 00:00:25,079 --> 00:00:28,840 Speaker 3: a huge indication of what he was going to be. 13 00:00:29,200 --> 00:00:31,800 Speaker 4: Yeah, there's so many from that year. I was fortunate 14 00:00:31,840 --> 00:00:34,000 Speaker 4: enough to cover Fred from ninety eight to two thousand. 15 00:00:34,479 --> 00:00:36,599 Speaker 4: I'm gonna go with another moment from his rookie year, 16 00:00:36,600 --> 00:00:39,160 Speaker 4: the one that Fred has told me often was his favorite. 17 00:00:39,680 --> 00:00:42,239 Speaker 4: The Jaguars are down against the Bucks out here in 18 00:00:42,280 --> 00:00:44,240 Speaker 4: one of the I think one of the great games 19 00:00:44,320 --> 00:00:48,000 Speaker 4: that the Jaguars played in that era. He went Brian of. 20 00:00:48,000 --> 00:00:50,040 Speaker 5: The yards seventy yard the buccaneer sideline. 21 00:00:50,200 --> 00:00:53,880 Speaker 4: Fred had hung out with Warren Sap that summer. Warren 22 00:00:53,920 --> 00:00:55,480 Speaker 4: had told him they were going to get him in 23 00:00:55,520 --> 00:00:57,800 Speaker 4: that game, Fred really didn't say much. He was a 24 00:00:57,880 --> 00:00:59,960 Speaker 4: quiet kid. And then Fred danced into the end zone 25 00:01:00,000 --> 00:01:02,720 Speaker 4: and has always sort of held that over Warren's that set. 26 00:01:02,760 --> 00:01:05,080 Speaker 4: That's Fred's favorite moment and it sure stands out to 27 00:01:05,080 --> 00:01:16,520 Speaker 4: me as well. 28 00:01:28,000 --> 00:01:29,679 Speaker 6: You know, he is off Taylor running left cuts. In fact, 29 00:01:29,680 --> 00:01:31,280 Speaker 6: he's got a hold there. He is thirty Taylor rock 30 00:01:31,360 --> 00:01:33,720 Speaker 6: side forty there he goes to the forty five to fifty. 31 00:01:33,840 --> 00:01:34,560 Speaker 4: It's a foot race. 32 00:01:34,640 --> 00:01:37,880 Speaker 6: Forty Taylor, thirty Taylor to the twenty, takes to the ten. 33 00:01:38,080 --> 00:01:40,839 Speaker 6: He's pulled down, but he gets into the episode touchdown 34 00:01:40,880 --> 00:01:41,880 Speaker 6: in the first play. 35 00:01:41,680 --> 00:01:42,119 Speaker 5: Of the game. 36 00:01:43,360 --> 00:01:45,280 Speaker 2: How about that one of our Monday Night football moments, 37 00:01:45,280 --> 00:01:47,440 Speaker 2: and of course a great moment for Fred Taylor. Our 38 00:01:47,440 --> 00:01:50,520 Speaker 2: big thing today has to be finalist Fred Fred Taylor 39 00:01:50,520 --> 00:01:52,760 Speaker 2: making it to the finalist list for the Pro Football 40 00:01:52,800 --> 00:01:55,280 Speaker 2: Hall of Fame for the first time. Obviously we're very 41 00:01:55,280 --> 00:01:57,840 Speaker 2: excited about it. Brian, what does the step mean for Fred? 42 00:01:58,080 --> 00:02:02,120 Speaker 3: Well, I think he is one step closer now towards 43 00:02:02,200 --> 00:02:04,360 Speaker 3: knowing that he's going to get into the Hall of Fame. 44 00:02:04,400 --> 00:02:06,560 Speaker 3: I mean, I believe that I always have and I 45 00:02:06,560 --> 00:02:08,840 Speaker 3: look at that list and there are great players on 46 00:02:08,840 --> 00:02:10,000 Speaker 3: that list, but I don't think any of them are 47 00:02:10,040 --> 00:02:12,560 Speaker 3: better than Fred John And so for Fred. 48 00:02:12,320 --> 00:02:15,519 Speaker 5: It was about getting into the room. And people could 49 00:02:15,560 --> 00:02:17,720 Speaker 5: hold it against him that he didn't have as many. 50 00:02:17,480 --> 00:02:20,240 Speaker 3: Pro Bowls as other players, did have as many touchdowns 51 00:02:20,280 --> 00:02:22,880 Speaker 3: as some other players, but he had big moments in 52 00:02:22,919 --> 00:02:26,040 Speaker 3: big games and on big stages. Remember his two hundred 53 00:02:26,040 --> 00:02:29,119 Speaker 3: and forty three yards at three Rivers Stadium in two 54 00:02:29,120 --> 00:02:32,040 Speaker 3: thousand and four touchdowns against the Pittsburgh Steelers. I mean, 55 00:02:32,040 --> 00:02:34,920 Speaker 3: he had those kinds of moments. So for Fred, I 56 00:02:34,919 --> 00:02:36,040 Speaker 3: think this means that he's. 57 00:02:35,919 --> 00:02:38,239 Speaker 4: On the path. Yeah, I think he's getting in. I 58 00:02:38,240 --> 00:02:40,200 Speaker 4: don't know it's gonna be this year. This can be 59 00:02:40,280 --> 00:02:42,600 Speaker 4: a process, as we all know, and it's a weird process, 60 00:02:42,639 --> 00:02:45,600 Speaker 4: not always a fair process. But getting in the room 61 00:02:45,720 --> 00:02:50,160 Speaker 4: is very important in this deal because when you're not 62 00:02:50,280 --> 00:02:53,720 Speaker 4: in the final fifteen, the voters think about you and 63 00:02:54,360 --> 00:02:56,639 Speaker 4: they look at you, but they don't talk to each 64 00:02:56,680 --> 00:02:59,280 Speaker 4: other that much about you. There's not as much convincing. 65 00:03:00,400 --> 00:03:04,679 Speaker 4: And I think once they start, this month will now 66 00:03:04,760 --> 00:03:07,960 Speaker 4: be about these voters making calls to each other, making 67 00:03:07,960 --> 00:03:11,680 Speaker 4: calls to people who played watching. And I've always thought 68 00:03:11,840 --> 00:03:15,960 Speaker 4: once the voters go back and start watching Fred's highlights, 69 00:03:16,120 --> 00:03:20,000 Speaker 4: his big moments, and they see the unbelievable combination of 70 00:03:20,120 --> 00:03:21,040 Speaker 4: size and strength. 71 00:03:21,080 --> 00:03:21,480 Speaker 5: It's rare. 72 00:03:21,560 --> 00:03:24,040 Speaker 4: Maybe Oj Simpson had it. There's been a few guys 73 00:03:24,560 --> 00:03:27,320 Speaker 4: in league history who have had his combination of size 74 00:03:27,360 --> 00:03:30,960 Speaker 4: and strength, not many and speed. Once they start seeing 75 00:03:31,000 --> 00:03:33,919 Speaker 4: the highlights, once they start seeing the moves and the moments, 76 00:03:34,200 --> 00:03:37,440 Speaker 4: I think his status will rise among voters. Maybe not 77 00:03:37,560 --> 00:03:42,280 Speaker 4: this year, but I think it's a sooner rather than 78 00:03:42,320 --> 00:03:44,920 Speaker 4: later now for Fred. I hope so. 79 00:03:45,000 --> 00:03:49,520 Speaker 3: Sam Cauvares, the longtime sports director at WJXT Channel four 80 00:03:49,560 --> 00:03:52,280 Speaker 3: here in town, he's the voter who matters now because 81 00:03:52,320 --> 00:03:53,720 Speaker 3: he's the guy who's going to have to make the 82 00:03:53,760 --> 00:03:56,680 Speaker 3: case to all those other voters. Of course, he covered 83 00:03:56,720 --> 00:03:58,920 Speaker 3: Fred through all those years, and it's going to be 84 00:03:59,000 --> 00:04:01,200 Speaker 3: up to him just by himself. There'll be a lot 85 00:04:01,200 --> 00:04:04,000 Speaker 3: of people that will be assisting him in putting together 86 00:04:04,560 --> 00:04:06,200 Speaker 3: the package. 87 00:04:05,680 --> 00:04:06,080 Speaker 5: You know, the. 88 00:04:07,920 --> 00:04:10,880 Speaker 3: Pitch if you will, to all those other voters. So 89 00:04:11,920 --> 00:04:14,040 Speaker 3: he's got a lot of work to do. Luckily, he's 90 00:04:14,040 --> 00:04:15,760 Speaker 3: got a lot to work with With Fred Taylor. 91 00:04:15,920 --> 00:04:17,240 Speaker 2: I was gonna say a lot of the video is 92 00:04:17,279 --> 00:04:19,320 Speaker 2: definitely gonna help out that pitch, because if you watch it, 93 00:04:19,360 --> 00:04:21,880 Speaker 2: you can see with your own eyes he's certainly a. 94 00:04:21,839 --> 00:04:22,280 Speaker 1: Hall of Famer. 95 00:04:22,279 --> 00:04:23,760 Speaker 2: We're gonna talk a little bit more about Fred later 96 00:04:23,800 --> 00:04:25,080 Speaker 2: on in the show, but right now we'll come back 97 00:04:25,120 --> 00:04:28,080 Speaker 2: to present day for our second big thing, which is will. 98 00:04:27,880 --> 00:04:28,600 Speaker 1: He or won't he. 99 00:04:28,720 --> 00:04:31,520 Speaker 2: Trevor Lawrence suffered his fourth injury so far this season. 100 00:04:31,880 --> 00:04:35,359 Speaker 2: It's an ac sprain in his throwing shoulder. He talked 101 00:04:35,360 --> 00:04:37,240 Speaker 2: a little bit yesterday about what it's gonna take, what 102 00:04:37,320 --> 00:04:38,960 Speaker 2: his practice schedule is gonna be like to sleep. 103 00:04:40,240 --> 00:04:43,479 Speaker 7: That's the plan right now. I mean, obviously things can change, 104 00:04:43,520 --> 00:04:46,760 Speaker 7: but yeah, as of right now, don't plan on doing 105 00:04:46,839 --> 00:04:49,360 Speaker 7: much today and we'll see tomorrow. Kind of take it 106 00:04:49,440 --> 00:04:51,840 Speaker 7: day by day, but yeah, not really gonna throw any 107 00:04:51,920 --> 00:04:54,320 Speaker 7: to day and from there, like I said, it's just 108 00:04:55,040 --> 00:04:56,680 Speaker 7: you never know how things are gonna heal up and 109 00:04:56,720 --> 00:04:59,880 Speaker 7: how quickly you're gonna recover. But right now it's still 110 00:05:00,440 --> 00:05:02,400 Speaker 7: and still kind of working through the beginning stages of 111 00:05:02,880 --> 00:05:05,080 Speaker 7: you know, getting back, so we'll kind of see how 112 00:05:05,080 --> 00:05:06,360 Speaker 7: it goes. But that's the plan right now. 113 00:05:08,480 --> 00:05:10,960 Speaker 2: John, We saw that Trevor was physically at practice. He 114 00:05:11,000 --> 00:05:13,880 Speaker 2: did not participate in practices out there in shorts, just 115 00:05:13,960 --> 00:05:16,000 Speaker 2: kind of going through all the game plan and everything. 116 00:05:16,480 --> 00:05:19,320 Speaker 2: Is this another situation where we won't know until closer 117 00:05:19,360 --> 00:05:20,919 Speaker 2: to Friday or Saturday whether he's gonna. 118 00:05:20,720 --> 00:05:24,080 Speaker 4: Play well this one? Man, I know till Sunday. I 119 00:05:24,080 --> 00:05:27,200 Speaker 4: don't really have a gut on this one. I guess 120 00:05:27,600 --> 00:05:31,359 Speaker 4: I've guessed and projected so many times this season that 121 00:05:31,720 --> 00:05:36,000 Speaker 4: it all sort of feels lost. Now. I think he'll 122 00:05:36,040 --> 00:05:41,240 Speaker 4: play it if capable. If I'm Doug Peterson, I'll go 123 00:05:41,279 --> 00:05:43,279 Speaker 4: back to what I've said all week, Brian. I would 124 00:05:43,279 --> 00:05:45,440 Speaker 4: think about the practice time. I would think about the 125 00:05:45,440 --> 00:05:49,599 Speaker 4: continuity element. Not that Trevor necessarily can't do it, but 126 00:05:49,720 --> 00:05:53,400 Speaker 4: how much timing does he have with receivers based on 127 00:05:53,440 --> 00:05:56,840 Speaker 4: the week? Feels like that's been a thing. I would 128 00:05:56,839 --> 00:05:58,520 Speaker 4: worry about that a little bit. But I kind of 129 00:05:58,520 --> 00:05:59,080 Speaker 4: think he goes. 130 00:06:00,320 --> 00:06:01,599 Speaker 5: My gut is is that he doesn't. 131 00:06:01,680 --> 00:06:03,240 Speaker 3: John, and I think if you're a round this league 132 00:06:03,240 --> 00:06:04,800 Speaker 3: for any length of time, you start to look at 133 00:06:04,839 --> 00:06:07,040 Speaker 3: transactions on Tuesdays and start. 134 00:06:06,800 --> 00:06:08,760 Speaker 5: To read tea leaves. 135 00:06:08,800 --> 00:06:10,640 Speaker 3: And they went and signed Mad Barkley off of the 136 00:06:10,680 --> 00:06:12,440 Speaker 3: Giants practice squad, and now they had to bring him 137 00:06:12,440 --> 00:06:13,320 Speaker 3: to the active roster. 138 00:06:13,760 --> 00:06:16,839 Speaker 5: But they could have just elevated E. J. Perry. 139 00:06:16,960 --> 00:06:19,200 Speaker 3: I mean, if they thought that there was a legitimate 140 00:06:19,320 --> 00:06:21,760 Speaker 3: chance that Trevor was gonna be able to go, you 141 00:06:21,800 --> 00:06:23,600 Speaker 3: know you wouldn't. I don't think you would have gone 142 00:06:23,640 --> 00:06:25,159 Speaker 3: to this trouble to bring in a guy that Doug 143 00:06:25,200 --> 00:06:27,640 Speaker 3: has some familiarity with. I look at that, and I 144 00:06:27,680 --> 00:06:30,719 Speaker 3: think there's just this is this is one injury too 145 00:06:30,760 --> 00:06:33,240 Speaker 3: far down the road, and this is his throwing shoulder. 146 00:06:34,640 --> 00:06:36,320 Speaker 5: I like to read body language. 147 00:06:36,360 --> 00:06:40,520 Speaker 3: I listen carefully, I pay attention, and my gut told 148 00:06:40,560 --> 00:06:42,120 Speaker 3: me yesterday that this is gonna be the one that 149 00:06:42,120 --> 00:06:44,000 Speaker 3: he's not gonna be able to go, and they're gonna 150 00:06:44,000 --> 00:06:46,040 Speaker 3: have to try to beat the Carolina Panthers without him 151 00:06:46,080 --> 00:06:48,400 Speaker 3: this week, and I think they can do that. Keep 152 00:06:48,440 --> 00:06:50,800 Speaker 3: in mind, you know, this is not just a decision 153 00:06:50,839 --> 00:06:53,680 Speaker 3: for this year. This is a decision for his offseason. 154 00:06:53,720 --> 00:06:55,920 Speaker 3: That's his throwing shoulder. And if you want to know 155 00:06:56,040 --> 00:06:59,040 Speaker 3: what happens when you're throwing shoulder ac joint is injured, 156 00:06:59,080 --> 00:07:02,120 Speaker 3: just look at Anthony Richard and the surgical procedure that 157 00:07:02,160 --> 00:07:04,840 Speaker 3: he had for the Colts and his timetable for coming 158 00:07:04,880 --> 00:07:05,560 Speaker 3: back and being. 159 00:07:05,440 --> 00:07:05,960 Speaker 5: Ready to go. 160 00:07:06,320 --> 00:07:08,440 Speaker 3: So I think they're cautious with this thing, and I 161 00:07:08,480 --> 00:07:10,280 Speaker 3: just have the sense he's not going this week. But 162 00:07:10,280 --> 00:07:13,040 Speaker 3: that's there's no insight other than what I just told you. 163 00:07:13,320 --> 00:07:16,520 Speaker 3: I got thirty years of doing this guy and reading 164 00:07:16,560 --> 00:07:17,160 Speaker 3: the tea leaves. 165 00:07:17,560 --> 00:07:19,480 Speaker 2: We'll try to figure things out. We'll talk it out 166 00:07:19,520 --> 00:07:22,160 Speaker 2: a little bit as well. Our final big thing today 167 00:07:22,320 --> 00:07:25,480 Speaker 2: is turnovers. So Trevor has been playing hurt for some time, 168 00:07:25,560 --> 00:07:27,640 Speaker 2: whether that's him playing hurt or some of the other 169 00:07:27,640 --> 00:07:30,680 Speaker 2: communication issues, there's been a lot of turnovers, especially in 170 00:07:30,680 --> 00:07:32,559 Speaker 2: the past couple of weeks, and they've hurt this team. 171 00:07:32,600 --> 00:07:34,680 Speaker 1: And Les Taylor talked about that yesterday. 172 00:07:35,960 --> 00:07:38,240 Speaker 8: You know, I think he takes that very personal. He's 173 00:07:38,440 --> 00:07:40,360 Speaker 8: very accountable. That's one of the things that we really 174 00:07:40,400 --> 00:07:45,320 Speaker 8: like about Trevor. You know, he understands where his responsibilities 175 00:07:45,320 --> 00:07:47,120 Speaker 8: lie in terms of protecting football for this team, and 176 00:07:47,160 --> 00:07:48,880 Speaker 8: so he takes responsibility of that. 177 00:07:51,680 --> 00:07:53,480 Speaker 1: Ryan. He's accountabile. He always owns up to it. 178 00:07:53,520 --> 00:07:55,520 Speaker 2: But he seems to be making a lot of those 179 00:07:55,560 --> 00:07:57,800 Speaker 2: mistakes lately, a little bit more than we're used to. 180 00:07:58,000 --> 00:07:59,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, he leads the NFL over the last three year 181 00:08:00,440 --> 00:08:03,120 Speaker 3: in turnovers, and I wrote this for quick thoughts after 182 00:08:03,160 --> 00:08:06,120 Speaker 3: the game on Sunday. You know, he's kind of approaching 183 00:08:06,960 --> 00:08:09,560 Speaker 3: Josh Allen's territory. Alan's a guy who, since he came 184 00:08:09,560 --> 00:08:11,679 Speaker 3: into the league in twenty eighteen, has led the league 185 00:08:11,680 --> 00:08:13,880 Speaker 3: in turnovers. Now Allen has more than made up with 186 00:08:13,880 --> 00:08:16,840 Speaker 3: it with ninety seven touchdowns and kept his team in contention. 187 00:08:16,960 --> 00:08:21,120 Speaker 3: And that's where you hope Trevor gets that he slows 188 00:08:21,200 --> 00:08:21,960 Speaker 3: down the rate. 189 00:08:21,840 --> 00:08:23,960 Speaker 5: Of turnovers, takes better care of the football. 190 00:08:24,280 --> 00:08:26,560 Speaker 3: Tom Coffin John always used to have a saying and 191 00:08:26,600 --> 00:08:28,200 Speaker 3: he'd say it with a sneer on his face and 192 00:08:28,560 --> 00:08:31,600 Speaker 3: callous disregard for the football. I don't think he has 193 00:08:31,640 --> 00:08:34,880 Speaker 3: disregard for the football. I just think on Sunday he 194 00:08:35,000 --> 00:08:37,120 Speaker 3: was off and he just has a tendency turned the 195 00:08:37,120 --> 00:08:39,440 Speaker 3: ball over because he's not quite as careful as he 196 00:08:39,480 --> 00:08:41,400 Speaker 3: needs to be. This is something that he's gonna have 197 00:08:41,400 --> 00:08:43,040 Speaker 3: to focus on because he's gonna be asked about it 198 00:08:43,120 --> 00:08:43,880 Speaker 3: until it stops. 199 00:08:44,000 --> 00:08:46,760 Speaker 4: Yeah, and they tend to snowball. They snowball on Trevor 200 00:08:46,800 --> 00:08:48,760 Speaker 4: a little bit, and he's certainly a snowball. In the 201 00:08:48,800 --> 00:08:51,719 Speaker 4: last couple of weeks, I attribute a lot of it 202 00:08:51,760 --> 00:08:56,320 Speaker 4: to especially last week, it feels like timing stuff. It 203 00:08:56,360 --> 00:08:59,920 Speaker 4: feels like young receiver stuff when he's throwing, when he 204 00:09:00,000 --> 00:09:03,160 Speaker 4: he's in the pocket, he said yesterday, And I think 205 00:09:03,200 --> 00:09:05,679 Speaker 4: it's priority one figure out how to protect the ball 206 00:09:05,720 --> 00:09:07,640 Speaker 4: in the pocket. It's one thing to gets sacked, it's 207 00:09:07,640 --> 00:09:11,079 Speaker 4: another thing to fumble as prodigiously as he does. I mean, 208 00:09:11,120 --> 00:09:13,440 Speaker 4: he fumbels a lot in the pocket and it hurts you. 209 00:09:14,120 --> 00:09:18,200 Speaker 4: Beyond that, though, what's really hurting them lately first half season, 210 00:09:18,240 --> 00:09:21,360 Speaker 4: first eight games, I think the numbers thirteen turnovers, they 211 00:09:21,400 --> 00:09:26,720 Speaker 4: give up nineteen points fifteen turnovers since week seven, sixty 212 00:09:26,800 --> 00:09:31,599 Speaker 4: nine points off up. It's caused an avalanche and it's 213 00:09:31,760 --> 00:09:35,319 Speaker 4: as press set. Those numbers are the reason for the slot. 214 00:09:35,240 --> 00:09:38,160 Speaker 3: And the defense has not been as productive at taking 215 00:09:38,160 --> 00:09:40,520 Speaker 3: the bowl away in the second half of the season 216 00:09:40,559 --> 00:09:42,040 Speaker 3: as well, which hasn't helped. 217 00:09:42,840 --> 00:09:45,680 Speaker 2: Yes, the turnover differential definitely not great right now. That's 218 00:09:45,679 --> 00:09:48,240 Speaker 2: something they need to work on as well going forward. 219 00:09:48,240 --> 00:09:49,880 Speaker 2: To stay with us here on jag Zam, we're going 220 00:09:49,920 --> 00:09:52,440 Speaker 2: to talk more about Fred Taylor's career and his resume 221 00:09:52,520 --> 00:09:54,240 Speaker 2: going into the Hall of Fame, hopefully on this time 222 00:09:54,280 --> 00:10:04,120 Speaker 2: around as a finalist. 223 00:10:05,200 --> 00:10:08,000 Speaker 6: There he goes Freig Taylor, breaks the tackles, he's on 224 00:10:08,040 --> 00:10:13,400 Speaker 6: the run, spend fine touchdown Freig Taylor and Checksonville reclaims 225 00:10:13,440 --> 00:10:14,040 Speaker 6: the league. 226 00:10:14,200 --> 00:10:15,960 Speaker 5: Hollis puts it up and threw in the check. 227 00:10:16,040 --> 00:10:20,000 Speaker 6: Wars are winners over the Denver Broncos. 228 00:10:21,240 --> 00:10:23,360 Speaker 2: That on Monday night football moment for Fred always helps 229 00:10:23,360 --> 00:10:25,120 Speaker 2: when you can have those big games on a primetime 230 00:10:25,120 --> 00:10:26,880 Speaker 2: stage so other people remember it as well. 231 00:10:26,920 --> 00:10:29,560 Speaker 3: If you go back and look at that game, Fred 232 00:10:29,640 --> 00:10:32,080 Speaker 3: had been hampered by a hamstring all season. 233 00:10:31,840 --> 00:10:33,600 Speaker 5: Long, and he hadn't played a whole lot. 234 00:10:33,679 --> 00:10:36,000 Speaker 3: That was a Monday night game and homefield advantage was 235 00:10:36,040 --> 00:10:38,640 Speaker 3: on the line for the playoffs, and Fred didn't start 236 00:10:38,679 --> 00:10:40,400 Speaker 3: that game and didn't play a whole lot till the 237 00:10:40,400 --> 00:10:42,640 Speaker 3: fourth quarter. That may have been his third or fourth carry, 238 00:10:42,800 --> 00:10:44,920 Speaker 3: and of course it was the game winning touchdown. And 239 00:10:44,960 --> 00:10:46,520 Speaker 3: I love the fact that they show the highlight there 240 00:10:46,559 --> 00:10:48,600 Speaker 3: at the end that about the four yard line he 241 00:10:48,679 --> 00:10:51,920 Speaker 3: just put sort of jumped effortlessly from the four into 242 00:10:51,960 --> 00:10:54,640 Speaker 3: the end zone. I mean, he was such a gifted 243 00:10:54,880 --> 00:10:56,920 Speaker 3: football player physical specimen. 244 00:10:57,240 --> 00:10:58,880 Speaker 5: He could do things that other people couldn't. 245 00:11:00,160 --> 00:11:03,080 Speaker 2: What does this step mean to this process obviously we 246 00:11:03,120 --> 00:11:05,840 Speaker 2: know he's made the semi finalist five times before, but 247 00:11:06,080 --> 00:11:09,120 Speaker 2: to get to the final group to be heard, what 248 00:11:09,240 --> 00:11:10,880 Speaker 2: is that process like and what does this mean? 249 00:11:11,000 --> 00:11:14,400 Speaker 4: Well, as we talked about it, it puts you in 250 00:11:14,440 --> 00:11:18,959 Speaker 4: the room and the conversation, and that's when the voters 251 00:11:19,240 --> 00:11:24,520 Speaker 4: start talking to each other. Hey, sell me on your guy, 252 00:11:25,600 --> 00:11:27,959 Speaker 4: tell me why he should be in. It's when the 253 00:11:28,040 --> 00:11:32,240 Speaker 4: voters start calling people in their area, in their world 254 00:11:32,240 --> 00:11:36,240 Speaker 4: that they know, a team president, a scout who scouted 255 00:11:36,240 --> 00:11:39,000 Speaker 4: this guy, a head coach, a player who played against him, 256 00:11:39,200 --> 00:11:43,360 Speaker 4: and they start trying to figure out who should be in. 257 00:11:43,440 --> 00:11:47,040 Speaker 4: One thing that I think fans and observers of the process, 258 00:11:47,440 --> 00:11:50,040 Speaker 4: when their guy doesn't get in, they get very upset 259 00:11:50,240 --> 00:11:54,320 Speaker 4: and it's understandable, I can tell you from it, and 260 00:11:54,360 --> 00:11:57,680 Speaker 4: they criticize the process. There's no great process for the 261 00:11:57,679 --> 00:11:59,760 Speaker 4: Hall of Fame. There's not another one out there that's better. 262 00:12:00,920 --> 00:12:03,439 Speaker 4: What I can tell you is it is from knowing 263 00:12:03,480 --> 00:12:05,959 Speaker 4: the people and being at Super Bowls when I've heard 264 00:12:06,040 --> 00:12:10,880 Speaker 4: guys talking about this. The voters care about it. They 265 00:12:10,960 --> 00:12:14,720 Speaker 4: spend a lot of time not with their jobs, but 266 00:12:15,200 --> 00:12:20,240 Speaker 4: with talking to other people, asking questions, trying to get 267 00:12:20,280 --> 00:12:22,520 Speaker 4: it right. They all want to get it right. There's 268 00:12:22,559 --> 00:12:26,880 Speaker 4: fifteen guys. As Bisselli said multiple times, everybody on the 269 00:12:26,880 --> 00:12:31,040 Speaker 4: fifteen list deserves to be in. So you're talking about 270 00:12:32,080 --> 00:12:34,200 Speaker 4: sometimes it's not even the most deserving guy that year. 271 00:12:34,280 --> 00:12:37,679 Speaker 4: It's how it falls. But there is a process in 272 00:12:37,720 --> 00:12:42,000 Speaker 4: this that a candidate gains momentum sometimes over years. I 273 00:12:42,000 --> 00:12:46,000 Speaker 4: thought it happened with Tony. The more he's talked about 274 00:12:46,679 --> 00:12:48,400 Speaker 4: then all of a sudden he finished his twelfth that 275 00:12:48,480 --> 00:12:51,320 Speaker 4: year seventh and more and more voters say, you know what, 276 00:12:51,360 --> 00:12:53,560 Speaker 4: I didn't vote for him this year, but at some 277 00:12:53,679 --> 00:12:55,920 Speaker 4: point we got to get him in. And that's sort 278 00:12:56,000 --> 00:12:59,000 Speaker 4: of the momentum that can build for a guy. And 279 00:12:59,040 --> 00:13:00,400 Speaker 4: I think that's what will happened with Fred. I'm not 280 00:13:00,400 --> 00:13:02,319 Speaker 4: sure he gets in this year, but I think once 281 00:13:02,360 --> 00:13:05,760 Speaker 4: people start talking about him and watching him again, the 282 00:13:05,800 --> 00:13:07,040 Speaker 4: momentum is gonna build for Fred. 283 00:13:07,080 --> 00:13:09,080 Speaker 3: How many locks did you see on that list? I mean, 284 00:13:09,080 --> 00:13:10,880 Speaker 3: how many guys do you say, well, he absolutely is 285 00:13:10,920 --> 00:13:13,880 Speaker 3: going in. I mean, I tell you Julius Peppers, I thought, 286 00:13:13,960 --> 00:13:21,480 Speaker 3: Dwight Freeney for sure, Antonio Gates, Andre Johnson. I mean, 287 00:13:21,720 --> 00:13:23,360 Speaker 3: I can make the case for those guys, but they 288 00:13:23,440 --> 00:13:24,000 Speaker 3: have to go in. 289 00:13:24,080 --> 00:13:26,640 Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't know. I but again to your point, 290 00:13:26,720 --> 00:13:31,439 Speaker 4: I think when you mentioned those guys, I covered Dwight 291 00:13:31,679 --> 00:13:33,640 Speaker 4: and I think he's a Hall of Famer. When I 292 00:13:33,679 --> 00:13:35,800 Speaker 4: looked at the list, I didn't think, boy, he's getting 293 00:13:35,800 --> 00:13:38,480 Speaker 4: in this year. I covered Reggie think he's All of Famer. 294 00:13:38,480 --> 00:13:42,200 Speaker 4: Of Reggie Wayne, I don't know there's any locks, but 295 00:13:42,840 --> 00:13:46,520 Speaker 4: I think what might hurt Fred this year is there 296 00:13:46,559 --> 00:13:49,560 Speaker 4: are a number of guys and when you talk to 297 00:13:49,559 --> 00:13:51,560 Speaker 4: committee members, they talk about it, well, so and so 298 00:13:51,640 --> 00:13:54,079 Speaker 4: has been waiting for a long time. You know, Andre 299 00:13:54,240 --> 00:13:56,160 Speaker 4: Johnson has been in this process for a while. Reggie 300 00:13:56,160 --> 00:13:57,600 Speaker 4: Wayne is a lot of guys who've been in it 301 00:13:57,640 --> 00:14:01,560 Speaker 4: for a while. Since it might be a year where 302 00:14:01,559 --> 00:14:03,440 Speaker 4: the voters say, Okay, we're gonna take this year and 303 00:14:03,480 --> 00:14:05,920 Speaker 4: get some guys in who need to be in. Because 304 00:14:06,640 --> 00:14:08,960 Speaker 4: it shouldn't work that way, but that's how it does. 305 00:14:09,600 --> 00:14:12,920 Speaker 4: At the same time, Fred's the only running back, and 306 00:14:12,960 --> 00:14:15,800 Speaker 4: there wasn't a running back last year either who got in. 307 00:14:17,760 --> 00:14:20,800 Speaker 4: There's gonna be nobody else at his position that bumps 308 00:14:20,880 --> 00:14:23,880 Speaker 4: him down in this process. That kind of thing can matter. 309 00:14:25,000 --> 00:14:26,880 Speaker 3: Teamage too, right, I mean, you wouldn't think that Dwight 310 00:14:26,920 --> 00:14:29,680 Speaker 3: Freemy and Reggie would get in the same year. 311 00:14:29,760 --> 00:14:33,240 Speaker 4: Yeah, probably not. It usually doesn't work that way. And 312 00:14:33,400 --> 00:14:38,640 Speaker 4: other position groups usually they usually but often multiple wide 313 00:14:39,120 --> 00:14:42,880 Speaker 4: multiple position groups don't get in. I think he has 314 00:14:42,880 --> 00:14:45,760 Speaker 4: a chance. I'd be surprised if somebody has been on 315 00:14:45,800 --> 00:14:50,200 Speaker 4: the ballot five times. The semi finalist sort of races 316 00:14:50,240 --> 00:14:52,480 Speaker 4: through the process and gets in as a finalist first year. 317 00:14:53,960 --> 00:14:58,280 Speaker 4: But the other side of that statement is this voting 318 00:14:58,320 --> 00:15:01,600 Speaker 4: process often surprises you, so it could easily happen. 319 00:15:01,840 --> 00:15:02,960 Speaker 5: You know, you can go back and look at a 320 00:15:03,000 --> 00:15:06,480 Speaker 5: lot of different things about Fred. Randy Moss was the 321 00:15:07,080 --> 00:15:07,600 Speaker 5: Rookie of. 322 00:15:07,560 --> 00:15:10,440 Speaker 3: The Year in two thousand and a party in nineteen 323 00:15:10,480 --> 00:15:14,920 Speaker 3: ninety eight, he had seventeen touchdowns. Fred had seventeen touchdowns 324 00:15:14,960 --> 00:15:18,800 Speaker 3: as a rookie, and four of sixty yards or longer, 325 00:15:18,880 --> 00:15:21,840 Speaker 3: and some of those were game winning sorts of plays. 326 00:15:22,000 --> 00:15:24,240 Speaker 3: I think people have forgotten that in two thousand he 327 00:15:24,280 --> 00:15:27,560 Speaker 3: had a stretch of nine consecutive games where he rushed 328 00:15:27,800 --> 00:15:29,840 Speaker 3: for at least one hundred yards. At that time, only 329 00:15:29,840 --> 00:15:33,400 Speaker 3: Marcus Allen and Barry Sanders had ever done more than that, 330 00:15:33,880 --> 00:15:36,520 Speaker 3: and since then only Chris Johnson from the Tennessee Titans 331 00:15:36,800 --> 00:15:39,480 Speaker 3: has done at least ten. So you're putting into the 332 00:15:39,520 --> 00:15:40,880 Speaker 3: elite company. 333 00:15:41,120 --> 00:15:43,280 Speaker 5: I shouldn't say that you're putting him. He put himself 334 00:15:43,280 --> 00:15:44,920 Speaker 5: an elite company with the way that he played. 335 00:15:45,080 --> 00:15:48,360 Speaker 4: I would put that's the last time I covered Fred 336 00:15:48,440 --> 00:15:52,960 Speaker 4: was two thousand the street that Brian talked about as 337 00:15:53,000 --> 00:15:56,320 Speaker 4: a Jaguars team that year that was falling off of 338 00:15:56,360 --> 00:16:01,880 Speaker 4: what they had been. I I would put that year 339 00:16:02,200 --> 00:16:06,040 Speaker 4: up with the forty nine touchdown season that I covered 340 00:16:06,040 --> 00:16:09,760 Speaker 4: a Manning as the two most impressive years. Maybe throw 341 00:16:09,840 --> 00:16:13,280 Speaker 4: more Eas's rushing title because of what he did when 342 00:16:13,320 --> 00:16:16,160 Speaker 4: he had no help around him. But two thousand eleven 343 00:16:16,760 --> 00:16:21,040 Speaker 4: his year that year nine stra eight hundred yard games, 344 00:16:21,800 --> 00:16:23,960 Speaker 4: and I forget the stat I knew was with the 345 00:16:24,000 --> 00:16:28,240 Speaker 4: tu an unbelievable number of forty yard runs. Mixed in 346 00:16:28,280 --> 00:16:32,280 Speaker 4: with that his ability to break the long run in 347 00:16:32,360 --> 00:16:35,080 Speaker 4: a league where that's hard to do because of the 348 00:16:35,120 --> 00:16:40,000 Speaker 4: speed and size of defenses. I mean, he's he's a 349 00:16:40,040 --> 00:16:40,800 Speaker 4: Hall of Famer to me. 350 00:16:41,000 --> 00:16:43,440 Speaker 3: At some point he once was aggravated with me because 351 00:16:43,480 --> 00:16:45,360 Speaker 3: he heard me say that I thought he was the 352 00:16:45,360 --> 00:16:48,600 Speaker 3: best one yard back in football and I laughed, I said, fred, 353 00:16:48,600 --> 00:16:51,000 Speaker 3: I didn't say one yard. I said one yard line, 354 00:16:51,040 --> 00:16:53,320 Speaker 3: meaning he could score from your one yard line. Because 355 00:16:53,320 --> 00:16:55,040 Speaker 3: of two hundred and thirty pounds, he was tough to 356 00:16:55,080 --> 00:16:56,640 Speaker 3: keep out of the end zone, but he could score 357 00:16:56,640 --> 00:16:59,400 Speaker 3: from his as well. His ninety yard touchdown run in 358 00:16:59,440 --> 00:17:02,920 Speaker 3: the AFC Visual Playoff game here against Miami, which was 359 00:17:03,040 --> 00:17:07,439 Speaker 3: undoubtedly the fastest defense in football that year. That's Jason Taylor, 360 00:17:07,960 --> 00:17:11,640 Speaker 3: that's Brock Marion, Sam Madison, and he made them look 361 00:17:11,680 --> 00:17:13,640 Speaker 3: silly as he made them run all the way from 362 00:17:13,680 --> 00:17:15,840 Speaker 3: sideline to sideline and then just went right. 363 00:17:15,640 --> 00:17:18,520 Speaker 5: Down the middle for ninety yards. It was spectacular. 364 00:17:18,600 --> 00:17:21,119 Speaker 3: Had a thirty eight yard touchdown in that game as well, 365 00:17:21,400 --> 00:17:23,800 Speaker 3: where he stopped and started him at four different times 366 00:17:24,000 --> 00:17:26,040 Speaker 3: and then finally got up the sideline and it was 367 00:17:26,040 --> 00:17:27,560 Speaker 3: like the Dolphins were like, how did he do that? 368 00:17:27,600 --> 00:17:33,000 Speaker 3: And just watched him go. It was breathtaking. And I 369 00:17:33,000 --> 00:17:36,120 Speaker 3: have to say a quick story. In nineteen ninety eight, 370 00:17:36,119 --> 00:17:38,239 Speaker 3: Tom Coffin was really in on Curtis Enis, the big 371 00:17:38,320 --> 00:17:40,720 Speaker 3: running back from Penn State. He really wanted that big, 372 00:17:40,760 --> 00:17:43,440 Speaker 3: bruising guy. It reminded him of Oh J Anderson, who 373 00:17:43,440 --> 00:17:46,879 Speaker 3: played with him at the New York Giants. But Fred's 374 00:17:46,880 --> 00:17:49,159 Speaker 3: Pro Day was held on a Wednesday, and I had 375 00:17:49,160 --> 00:17:51,320 Speaker 3: gotten word back then there was no Internet or social media. 376 00:17:51,320 --> 00:17:53,879 Speaker 3: I'd gotten word from some scouting buddies that Fred had 377 00:17:53,960 --> 00:17:57,240 Speaker 3: run really fast, really fast. So I'm sitting in the 378 00:17:57,280 --> 00:17:59,480 Speaker 3: radio studio because we did a Wednesday night show, and 379 00:17:59,520 --> 00:18:02,359 Speaker 3: Tom comes walking down the hallway said, Hey, Tom, was 380 00:18:02,359 --> 00:18:04,520 Speaker 3: Fred as fast as everyone said? And he stuck his 381 00:18:04,520 --> 00:18:06,640 Speaker 3: head and he goes, you know, big eyes. He went 382 00:18:07,480 --> 00:18:10,639 Speaker 3: four three, four point three, and then just turned and 383 00:18:10,640 --> 00:18:12,720 Speaker 3: walked and went they're taking fread. I mean, at that moment, 384 00:18:12,840 --> 00:18:15,560 Speaker 3: you just knew he was so blown away by the 385 00:18:15,600 --> 00:18:18,359 Speaker 3: size speed ratio. Two hundred and thirty pounds to run 386 00:18:18,440 --> 00:18:20,159 Speaker 3: four point three and I think Fred will take you 387 00:18:20,200 --> 00:18:22,560 Speaker 3: ran four point two nine at the at the Florida 388 00:18:22,560 --> 00:18:23,000 Speaker 3: Pro Day. 389 00:18:24,240 --> 00:18:25,639 Speaker 5: It was just it was it was obvious. 390 00:18:25,640 --> 00:18:27,919 Speaker 3: And Curtisinas never did turn into a great back, he 391 00:18:27,920 --> 00:18:29,960 Speaker 3: had knee problems. And Fred is a Hall of Famer. 392 00:18:30,040 --> 00:18:31,639 Speaker 4: Here's what it's remarkable about the four two and now 393 00:18:32,000 --> 00:18:33,520 Speaker 4: I was actually there and it's one of the few 394 00:18:33,560 --> 00:18:38,440 Speaker 4: times that are Pro day that you heard scouts whoa 395 00:18:38,840 --> 00:18:41,320 Speaker 4: like And it was across the field and you heard 396 00:18:41,359 --> 00:18:44,640 Speaker 4: a collective whoa. Fred also told me later, and I 397 00:18:44,680 --> 00:18:49,040 Speaker 4: think he's he's okay with me telling this. He didn't train, 398 00:18:49,960 --> 00:18:53,439 Speaker 4: that's yeah, he showed up. He said he went. You know, 399 00:18:53,760 --> 00:18:57,200 Speaker 4: he was young. He went to a lot of parties 400 00:18:57,560 --> 00:19:02,000 Speaker 4: after his Florida season, and he he I'm sure he 401 00:19:02,040 --> 00:19:04,919 Speaker 4: may exaggerate it a little bit, but it was not 402 00:19:05,000 --> 00:19:07,359 Speaker 4: a situation. I think this is right. I think he 403 00:19:07,400 --> 00:19:11,159 Speaker 4: told me that he went to a speed camp, may 404 00:19:11,200 --> 00:19:14,280 Speaker 4: have been Shaws maybe in whatever one's And after a 405 00:19:14,280 --> 00:19:15,760 Speaker 4: couple of days they told me it's not thanking do 406 00:19:15,800 --> 00:19:18,560 Speaker 4: for him. Yeah, because he was you should teach the class. Yeah, 407 00:19:18,920 --> 00:19:21,360 Speaker 4: we're trying to get people where you are. I think 408 00:19:21,440 --> 00:19:23,560 Speaker 4: that's right, and if it's not, I apologize to Fred. 409 00:19:23,920 --> 00:19:26,040 Speaker 4: But I do know that he told me once that 410 00:19:26,640 --> 00:19:29,680 Speaker 4: he was not in his best shape when he ran 411 00:19:29,720 --> 00:19:30,359 Speaker 4: his four two nine. 412 00:19:30,920 --> 00:19:33,679 Speaker 3: So this thing about that, yeah, it's unbelievable, and I 413 00:19:33,680 --> 00:19:35,280 Speaker 3: think we should just I mean, because at some point 414 00:19:35,280 --> 00:19:36,160 Speaker 3: we've got to get off the air. 415 00:19:37,040 --> 00:19:39,439 Speaker 5: I'll just leave you with this. Fred showed up. 416 00:19:39,640 --> 00:19:42,720 Speaker 3: In nineteen ninety eight on a Suzuki Samurai right on 417 00:19:42,840 --> 00:19:47,200 Speaker 3: a rocket and he had the gold teeth in and 418 00:19:47,240 --> 00:19:50,240 Speaker 3: he ate. He was always had a bag of burger 419 00:19:50,320 --> 00:19:52,479 Speaker 3: king or something. He was just this brash, just like 420 00:19:52,560 --> 00:19:53,480 Speaker 3: you know, show up and run. 421 00:19:54,240 --> 00:19:56,680 Speaker 5: And from who he was. 422 00:19:56,840 --> 00:20:00,560 Speaker 3: Is this brash rookie to who he is now as 423 00:20:00,640 --> 00:20:06,280 Speaker 3: this superstar you know, father, husband, businessman, member of his 424 00:20:06,320 --> 00:20:08,920 Speaker 3: community in South Florida. In here, there are so many 425 00:20:08,920 --> 00:20:12,480 Speaker 3: people who are so proud of Fred Taylor, the man, 426 00:20:12,600 --> 00:20:16,840 Speaker 3: Fred Taylor, the Jaguar football player, Fred Taylor, the Jaguar representative. 427 00:20:17,240 --> 00:20:19,600 Speaker 3: It was an incredible journey. He lost a lot of money. 428 00:20:19,880 --> 00:20:22,520 Speaker 3: His wife Andy helped him get it back with Drew Rosenhaus. 429 00:20:22,920 --> 00:20:27,359 Speaker 3: His story is one of always overcoming the circumstances, whether 430 00:20:27,400 --> 00:20:29,560 Speaker 3: it was being from Belglade, Florida, or he had an 431 00:20:29,640 --> 00:20:32,080 Speaker 3: unfortunate incident with a backpack when he was a freshman 432 00:20:32,280 --> 00:20:35,359 Speaker 3: at the University of Florida, or whether it was you know, 433 00:20:35,440 --> 00:20:38,320 Speaker 3: his diet or his hamstring or the money that he lost. 434 00:20:38,920 --> 00:20:44,280 Speaker 3: And he never let know define him ever, And so 435 00:20:44,400 --> 00:20:46,359 Speaker 3: I don't expect that the Hall of Fame will be 436 00:20:46,400 --> 00:20:47,480 Speaker 3: able to tell him no either. 437 00:20:47,800 --> 00:20:50,159 Speaker 5: He is truly somebody that I am proud to know. 438 00:20:50,880 --> 00:20:52,960 Speaker 1: Very cool. We've heard so much about him. 439 00:20:52,960 --> 00:20:56,119 Speaker 2: I will give my small outside perspective because before I 440 00:20:56,119 --> 00:20:58,280 Speaker 2: came here, obviously, you guys know I all came in April. 441 00:20:58,520 --> 00:21:01,200 Speaker 2: If you said Jaguars to me, Fred Taylor is absolutely 442 00:21:01,240 --> 00:21:02,720 Speaker 2: the name that comes to my mind. And I think 443 00:21:02,760 --> 00:21:05,840 Speaker 2: that's very relevant to everyone else, especially when you're pitching 444 00:21:06,000 --> 00:21:08,480 Speaker 2: somebody you already know Fred that's top of mind. And 445 00:21:08,480 --> 00:21:09,960 Speaker 2: then when you look back at the video like I 446 00:21:10,040 --> 00:21:12,720 Speaker 2: have been this past week or so, it really jumps 447 00:21:12,720 --> 00:21:13,359 Speaker 2: off the tape to you. 448 00:21:13,440 --> 00:21:15,080 Speaker 1: So it's just a matter of time for Fred. 449 00:21:15,119 --> 00:21:16,920 Speaker 2: And of course we'll have tons of time to talk 450 00:21:16,960 --> 00:21:19,160 Speaker 2: about Fred as this process goes forward. 451 00:21:19,280 --> 00:21:20,359 Speaker 1: Stay with us here on Jagsam. 452 00:21:20,400 --> 00:21:22,200 Speaker 2: We'll get back to the game as we look ahead 453 00:21:22,440 --> 00:21:24,280 Speaker 2: to who some of our big game players are going 454 00:21:24,320 --> 00:21:35,679 Speaker 2: to be on Sunday. Jagxam brought to you by Suttuth, 455 00:21:35,720 --> 00:21:38,920 Speaker 2: Florida's trusted and reliable moving company. 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The Bright Future 462 00:21:56,800 --> 00:21:59,600 Speaker 2: Scholarship program, which is primarily funded by the Florida Lottery, 463 00:21:59,640 --> 00:22:03,919 Speaker 2: assists students in pursuing post secondary education and career goals. 464 00:22:04,160 --> 00:22:07,480 Speaker 2: Of course, congratulations to Taylors hopes to attend UF next 465 00:22:07,600 --> 00:22:09,679 Speaker 2: year and of course is a member of the cheerleading squad. 466 00:22:12,320 --> 00:22:13,720 Speaker 4: I don't know about thinking about it like that. I 467 00:22:13,880 --> 00:22:14,640 Speaker 4: just just. 468 00:22:14,520 --> 00:22:15,240 Speaker 5: Go out there and be me. 469 00:22:15,800 --> 00:22:18,920 Speaker 3: Let's kind of always have That's kind of always That's 470 00:22:19,000 --> 00:22:20,040 Speaker 3: kind of how I always have been. 471 00:22:20,080 --> 00:22:20,959 Speaker 4: That's just the player I am. 472 00:22:20,960 --> 00:22:23,320 Speaker 7: That's the person I am, so never trying. 473 00:22:23,160 --> 00:22:25,880 Speaker 3: To force anything or try too hard to show anything. 474 00:22:25,920 --> 00:22:27,600 Speaker 4: I'll just go out there and be myself and just 475 00:22:27,680 --> 00:22:28,160 Speaker 4: let it. 476 00:22:28,200 --> 00:22:29,600 Speaker 7: Just let it whatever, show the chart. 477 00:22:31,359 --> 00:22:34,280 Speaker 2: Welcome back to jag Zam here and Cam Robinson's going 478 00:22:34,320 --> 00:22:36,520 Speaker 2: to be back in the mix. His window was activated. 479 00:22:36,520 --> 00:22:38,560 Speaker 2: Everything goes to plan. He'll be back on the field 480 00:22:38,560 --> 00:22:41,320 Speaker 2: this week. And John, I know he's your player that 481 00:22:41,359 --> 00:22:43,680 Speaker 2: you're going to talk about. But the cool thing about 482 00:22:43,680 --> 00:22:45,920 Speaker 2: Cam is Cam brings an energy. Cam brings something to 483 00:22:45,960 --> 00:22:48,439 Speaker 2: see and Doug Peterson mentioned it earlier this week. We 484 00:22:48,520 --> 00:22:50,600 Speaker 2: all have seen it before, but he doesn't think about 485 00:22:50,600 --> 00:22:51,840 Speaker 2: it that way because he's just being cam. 486 00:22:52,600 --> 00:22:55,600 Speaker 4: Yeah. I you know there keeps on being talked better 487 00:22:55,720 --> 00:22:56,720 Speaker 4: not being here next year. 488 00:22:56,960 --> 00:22:57,320 Speaker 1: I can't. 489 00:22:57,359 --> 00:22:59,320 Speaker 4: I hope that I get it. I get to talk. 490 00:23:00,200 --> 00:23:00,320 Speaker 1: Uh. 491 00:23:01,880 --> 00:23:04,840 Speaker 4: They need that guy. I mean, you know, I get 492 00:23:04,880 --> 00:23:07,399 Speaker 4: everything else, but I don't see that guy walking out 493 00:23:07,400 --> 00:23:10,919 Speaker 4: of the locker room. So uh, and I'm gonna go 494 00:23:11,600 --> 00:23:14,280 Speaker 4: ready for it, you know. And something needs to happen 495 00:23:14,280 --> 00:23:15,919 Speaker 4: around here. Something needs to change. I'm gonna blow your 496 00:23:15,920 --> 00:23:21,359 Speaker 4: mind here. He won't now he will. First, he won't. 497 00:23:20,440 --> 00:23:25,920 Speaker 4: He won't stay on IR this week. He'll be activated. 498 00:23:26,280 --> 00:23:30,159 Speaker 4: He will play, and he will bring the energy that 499 00:23:30,200 --> 00:23:33,560 Speaker 4: we're talking about. There's something about this team when he plays. 500 00:23:34,040 --> 00:23:35,840 Speaker 4: I think I think there's six and one with him, 501 00:23:36,359 --> 00:23:38,919 Speaker 4: U two and six without. I mean, whatever it is, 502 00:23:38,920 --> 00:23:45,280 Speaker 4: they're much better with them then without him. And I 503 00:23:45,320 --> 00:23:48,240 Speaker 4: can't say that he's going to make them a great 504 00:23:48,320 --> 00:23:52,879 Speaker 4: running team, but he might make them better enough for 505 00:23:52,960 --> 00:23:54,879 Speaker 4: them to function in the offense better than they have that. 506 00:23:55,080 --> 00:23:56,840 Speaker 4: I'm sorry that was a lot script. 507 00:23:56,920 --> 00:24:01,840 Speaker 5: Won't he will? He will? He might? Right, you're a 508 00:24:02,000 --> 00:24:02,560 Speaker 5: friend setter. 509 00:24:02,680 --> 00:24:03,400 Speaker 4: That's the kind of guy. 510 00:24:03,520 --> 00:24:06,320 Speaker 5: Yeah. Oh no, yeah, we do know, don't We absolutely know. 511 00:24:06,520 --> 00:24:07,800 Speaker 4: Don't tell me to stay in the bottom. 512 00:24:08,040 --> 00:24:10,160 Speaker 3: I was one of those people who thought that Cam 513 00:24:10,240 --> 00:24:14,280 Speaker 3: Robinson's salary cap number. He's an eighteen point seventy five 514 00:24:15,040 --> 00:24:17,600 Speaker 3: million dollar savings and with all the players that they 515 00:24:18,320 --> 00:24:21,480 Speaker 3: had to sign, I thought he was going to end 516 00:24:21,560 --> 00:24:25,040 Speaker 3: up being a salary cap casualty, especially with Walker Little. 517 00:24:25,240 --> 00:24:27,879 Speaker 3: But Little hasn't played as well as Cam Robinson, and 518 00:24:27,920 --> 00:24:30,399 Speaker 3: all of a sudden, a bunch of these guys who 519 00:24:30,440 --> 00:24:32,840 Speaker 3: who you thought you were gonna pay haven't met that 520 00:24:32,880 --> 00:24:35,280 Speaker 3: standard and you probably don't have to go out and pay. 521 00:24:35,440 --> 00:24:39,199 Speaker 3: So my sense now is you're keeping Cam Robinson. You know, 522 00:24:39,240 --> 00:24:41,280 Speaker 3: you may ask him to renegotiate a little bit, but 523 00:24:42,280 --> 00:24:44,480 Speaker 3: if I'm him, I say I'll stand on my number. 524 00:24:44,640 --> 00:24:47,960 Speaker 4: Yeah. There's just certain guys right like you look at him, 525 00:24:48,359 --> 00:24:52,880 Speaker 4: you see him talking there. He plays like a man 526 00:24:52,880 --> 00:24:53,480 Speaker 4: out there. 527 00:24:53,680 --> 00:24:55,480 Speaker 1: And be a loss in several different ways. 528 00:24:55,640 --> 00:24:58,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, and he is the ass kicker that you need 529 00:24:58,080 --> 00:24:59,600 Speaker 3: on the offensive line. You got to have one of 530 00:24:59,600 --> 00:25:01,040 Speaker 3: those guys, and he's it. 531 00:25:01,920 --> 00:25:03,560 Speaker 4: He's the me of the locker room. 532 00:25:03,680 --> 00:25:10,000 Speaker 5: Oh I love it. I'm going with Trayvon Walker. 533 00:25:10,680 --> 00:25:13,040 Speaker 3: Did you know that Trayvon Walker has more sacks right 534 00:25:13,160 --> 00:25:15,800 Speaker 3: Hudgins than the right just in cases you're wondering, and 535 00:25:15,800 --> 00:25:18,040 Speaker 3: what was people that thought that Aiden Hutchinson was a 536 00:25:18,040 --> 00:25:21,800 Speaker 3: better football player. Trayvon Walker is a terrific football player 537 00:25:22,000 --> 00:25:24,240 Speaker 3: and he is coming on strong and he will keep 538 00:25:24,280 --> 00:25:25,400 Speaker 3: that going this week. 539 00:25:25,880 --> 00:25:26,399 Speaker 5: I don't know. 540 00:25:27,080 --> 00:25:30,320 Speaker 3: He won't get three sacks necessarily in the next two games, 541 00:25:30,359 --> 00:25:33,320 Speaker 3: but he might approach that ten sack number, which seems 542 00:25:33,320 --> 00:25:35,600 Speaker 3: to be the barometer for people believing in players. 543 00:25:37,000 --> 00:25:38,840 Speaker 5: I know this. 544 00:25:38,840 --> 00:25:41,280 Speaker 3: This defense would not be as good without him. He 545 00:25:41,400 --> 00:25:43,560 Speaker 3: is a dominant player on his side of the line, 546 00:25:43,840 --> 00:25:45,639 Speaker 3: and he is learning how to pass rush. And the 547 00:25:45,640 --> 00:25:49,480 Speaker 3: way he finished that sack against the Ravens and Lamar 548 00:25:49,560 --> 00:25:52,480 Speaker 3: Jackson told me everything I needed to see. He's always 549 00:25:52,600 --> 00:25:56,240 Speaker 3: right there. He's still learning the moves right. He always 550 00:25:56,400 --> 00:25:57,920 Speaker 3: is right there. He's got to figure a couple of 551 00:25:57,960 --> 00:25:59,800 Speaker 3: things out. But it looks to me John like he 552 00:25:59,840 --> 00:26:01,919 Speaker 3: might be figuring those things out. So it was he 553 00:26:01,960 --> 00:26:02,840 Speaker 3: will he won't. 554 00:26:02,920 --> 00:26:05,439 Speaker 5: He might. He might. For me, you can't stack to 555 00:26:05,440 --> 00:26:06,280 Speaker 5: the script, but that's you. 556 00:26:06,440 --> 00:26:08,600 Speaker 4: I mean, I'm I'm more of a rebel. 557 00:26:08,720 --> 00:26:11,399 Speaker 2: You're well, I'm gonna do a little hot take with 558 00:26:11,480 --> 00:26:13,560 Speaker 2: my he will, he won't, He might because we didn't 559 00:26:13,560 --> 00:26:14,360 Speaker 2: do hot takes this week. 560 00:26:14,400 --> 00:26:16,240 Speaker 1: So my person is c J. 561 00:26:16,359 --> 00:26:19,240 Speaker 2: Bethard because I think he will play on Sunday against 562 00:26:19,280 --> 00:26:20,800 Speaker 2: the Panthers. I just get a little bit of an 563 00:26:20,800 --> 00:26:23,840 Speaker 2: inkling that because it's Trevor's throwing shoulder, it's a little 564 00:26:23,840 --> 00:26:26,080 Speaker 2: bit different. Plus what we've seen out of Trevor when 565 00:26:26,080 --> 00:26:29,680 Speaker 2: he doesn't practice hasn't translated very well. So I think 566 00:26:29,800 --> 00:26:32,800 Speaker 2: CJ will be out there for them, and he won't 567 00:26:32,800 --> 00:26:35,080 Speaker 2: be challenging anybody for the starting job. I don't think 568 00:26:35,080 --> 00:26:38,320 Speaker 2: he's taking a job from Trevor, but he might impress 569 00:26:38,359 --> 00:26:40,439 Speaker 2: you a little bit with his connections. As we've mentioned, 570 00:26:40,440 --> 00:26:42,199 Speaker 2: a lot of the starting wide receivers are out. We 571 00:26:42,200 --> 00:26:43,840 Speaker 2: don't know if say Jones is going to be available. 572 00:26:43,880 --> 00:26:46,719 Speaker 2: Christian Kirk obviously out for quite some time. But when 573 00:26:46,760 --> 00:26:50,200 Speaker 2: you see a Parker Washington, when you see a Cook's 574 00:26:50,200 --> 00:26:52,560 Speaker 2: out there, when you see even he's got a little 575 00:26:52,560 --> 00:26:54,880 Speaker 2: bit of chemistry with Calvin Ridley as well, you might 576 00:26:54,920 --> 00:26:57,960 Speaker 2: be surprised at what CJ is able to do with 577 00:26:58,080 --> 00:27:00,440 Speaker 2: this offense. And it kind of is are a little 578 00:27:00,440 --> 00:27:02,000 Speaker 2: bit different in the terms of obviously you don't have 579 00:27:02,000 --> 00:27:04,680 Speaker 2: the talent that Trevor brings to the field, not saying 580 00:27:04,720 --> 00:27:08,680 Speaker 2: that whatsoever, but CJ has a way of setting things 581 00:27:08,760 --> 00:27:10,919 Speaker 2: up for the wide receivers to make those plays, and 582 00:27:10,920 --> 00:27:12,560 Speaker 2: when you get it to Calvin, then Calvin can do 583 00:27:12,640 --> 00:27:14,720 Speaker 2: what he does. I think that might be interesting to 584 00:27:14,760 --> 00:27:17,159 Speaker 2: see if they give some significant time to see j Well, 585 00:27:17,200 --> 00:27:18,040 Speaker 2: it starts this game, and. 586 00:27:18,359 --> 00:27:20,639 Speaker 3: You're right, besides the shoulder, you know, he's the guy 587 00:27:20,680 --> 00:27:23,480 Speaker 3: who's getting the significant reps on the practice field with 588 00:27:23,600 --> 00:27:28,600 Speaker 3: guys like Washington, with Elijah Cooks, with Tim Jones, these 589 00:27:28,600 --> 00:27:30,840 Speaker 3: guys who are gonna have to contribute. He's out there 590 00:27:30,840 --> 00:27:35,080 Speaker 3: getting the reps in Trevor's not. So I get the talent, 591 00:27:35,119 --> 00:27:36,800 Speaker 3: there's no doubt. I mean, one was the number one 592 00:27:36,840 --> 00:27:39,600 Speaker 3: overall picking the draft for a reason. But this week 593 00:27:39,640 --> 00:27:40,720 Speaker 3: it just seems to me like you're. 594 00:27:40,640 --> 00:27:42,520 Speaker 2: Right, especially when you take on the Panthers. Not to 595 00:27:42,560 --> 00:27:44,679 Speaker 2: discount the Panthers because they're playing better than the Jaguars 596 00:27:44,720 --> 00:27:47,040 Speaker 2: are right now, but this seems like a game where 597 00:27:47,040 --> 00:27:49,240 Speaker 2: this can be done and with a good practice week, 598 00:27:49,280 --> 00:27:52,280 Speaker 2: this is something that can definitely happen. Stay with us 599 00:27:52,359 --> 00:27:54,719 Speaker 2: here on jag Zam. We always appreciate you joining us 600 00:27:54,720 --> 00:27:56,159 Speaker 2: and we'll be right back as we look forward to 601 00:27:56,240 --> 00:28:05,920 Speaker 2: that game on Sunday. 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Let's go, let's go, let's. 608 00:28:28,920 --> 00:28:52,040 Speaker 9: Go, let's go, let's go, let's go, let's go, let's go. 609 00:28:54,280 --> 00:28:55,720 Speaker 1: A lot of urgency from Evan Ingram. 610 00:28:55,760 --> 00:28:57,760 Speaker 2: You know, he's been a big target as he approaches 611 00:28:57,800 --> 00:29:00,440 Speaker 2: that catches all time catches. I know Jimmy Smith has 612 00:29:00,480 --> 00:29:03,120 Speaker 2: the numbers, but Evan's getting up there and it's impressive 613 00:29:03,120 --> 00:29:04,360 Speaker 2: for a tight end to be able to do that 614 00:29:04,440 --> 00:29:07,040 Speaker 2: as well. We're looking forward to this Panthers game. For me, 615 00:29:07,600 --> 00:29:08,880 Speaker 2: I don't know what you guys a looking for. I'm 616 00:29:08,920 --> 00:29:11,160 Speaker 2: looking for just the effort out there, the focus they've 617 00:29:11,160 --> 00:29:13,040 Speaker 2: been lacking confidence. I just want to see them get 618 00:29:13,040 --> 00:29:16,480 Speaker 2: out there, get something early and just let that momentum 619 00:29:16,600 --> 00:29:18,360 Speaker 2: ride because they just got to get a win to 620 00:29:18,400 --> 00:29:19,320 Speaker 2: kind of get over this hump. 621 00:29:19,320 --> 00:29:21,360 Speaker 5: In my mind, I'd like to see him grind went out, 622 00:29:21,480 --> 00:29:21,640 Speaker 5: you know. 623 00:29:21,680 --> 00:29:23,480 Speaker 3: I mean, everyone wants to see a forty two to 624 00:29:23,520 --> 00:29:25,920 Speaker 3: seven kind of game, but I don't think if you 625 00:29:26,040 --> 00:29:28,520 Speaker 3: have your backup quarterback, especially. 626 00:29:28,360 --> 00:29:29,200 Speaker 5: That you can count on that. 627 00:29:29,280 --> 00:29:30,479 Speaker 3: I just want to see him get through and get 628 00:29:30,480 --> 00:29:32,080 Speaker 3: to the end of the game and have something that 629 00:29:32,080 --> 00:29:34,000 Speaker 3: they can go, hey, we're in that this week. 630 00:29:34,000 --> 00:29:34,840 Speaker 5: We're back on track. 631 00:29:35,240 --> 00:29:37,720 Speaker 4: Yeah, get a lead, make the Panthers play uphill and 632 00:29:38,760 --> 00:29:41,040 Speaker 4: show them the better team. You're the better team, play 633 00:29:41,160 --> 00:29:45,120 Speaker 4: like it, and they've played They haven't played like that 634 00:29:45,280 --> 00:29:48,480 Speaker 4: enough lately, and I think they will, but we got 635 00:29:48,520 --> 00:29:48,880 Speaker 4: to see it. 636 00:29:49,400 --> 00:29:50,280 Speaker 1: Have to go out and prove it. 637 00:29:50,360 --> 00:29:53,320 Speaker 2: Season is on the line against the Panthers this week, 638 00:29:53,360 --> 00:29:54,760 Speaker 2: and of course we hope you guys enjoy the game. 639 00:29:54,800 --> 00:29:56,680 Speaker 2: We'll be back here on Jagszam next week to go 640 00:29:56,800 --> 00:30:09,160 Speaker 2: over everything that goes down.