1 00:00:04,795 --> 00:00:21,995 Speaker 1: Countdown with Keith Olderman is a production of iHeartRadio. Chris 2 00:00:22,275 --> 00:00:29,995 Speaker 1: Lickt's transformation of CNN into a journalistic whorehouse is now complete. 3 00:00:30,515 --> 00:00:33,915 Speaker 1: CNN is now bribing Donald Trump to accept its offer 4 00:00:33,955 --> 00:00:36,755 Speaker 1: of a live town hall in Goffstown, New Hampshire, next 5 00:00:36,795 --> 00:00:39,955 Speaker 1: Wednesday night, during which CNN says the questions will be 6 00:00:39,995 --> 00:00:45,035 Speaker 1: asked by New Hampshire Republicans and undeclared voters, and implies 7 00:00:45,355 --> 00:00:49,075 Speaker 1: its only involvement will be to have the former Tucker 8 00:00:49,115 --> 00:00:54,555 Speaker 1: Carlson website employee Caitlyn Collins moderate. CNN says nothing about 9 00:00:54,595 --> 00:00:57,195 Speaker 1: real time fact checking, nor pushback, nor anything else that 10 00:00:57,275 --> 00:01:02,475 Speaker 1: suggests it might exercise even the slightest editorial control over 11 00:01:02,515 --> 00:01:06,235 Speaker 1: the program length advertisement It is given to this seditious madman. 12 00:01:07,915 --> 00:01:11,355 Speaker 1: But I use that word bribing deliberately, because this is 13 00:01:11,475 --> 00:01:16,035 Speaker 1: worse than just sacrificing the charred remains of CNN's credibility 14 00:01:16,075 --> 00:01:20,795 Speaker 1: to Trump. There is a quid pro quo here. Hugo 15 00:01:20,955 --> 00:01:24,195 Speaker 1: Lowell of The Guardian quotes people close to Trump who 16 00:01:24,235 --> 00:01:27,755 Speaker 1: say he has agreed to appear on CNN on the 17 00:01:27,915 --> 00:01:32,835 Speaker 1: understanding that CNN could now put more of his campaign 18 00:01:32,995 --> 00:01:39,035 Speaker 1: surrogates on its programs. Lowell reports, CNN denies there is 19 00:01:39,075 --> 00:01:42,955 Speaker 1: such a deal that it has surrendered even more editorial control. 20 00:01:43,515 --> 00:01:45,955 Speaker 1: And it would be nice to believe that, after what 21 00:01:46,155 --> 00:01:49,315 Speaker 1: Lickt has deliberately done to destroy that news organization, that 22 00:01:49,435 --> 00:01:53,755 Speaker 1: his denial or CNN's institutional denial could be taken seriously. 23 00:01:54,675 --> 00:01:59,395 Speaker 1: But neither his nor theirs can be taken seriously any longer. Unfortunately, 24 00:01:59,435 --> 00:02:03,595 Speaker 1: it must now be assumed that everything said by someone 25 00:02:03,635 --> 00:02:08,515 Speaker 1: from CNN or on CNN, by Chris Lickt, by Wolf Blitzer, 26 00:02:08,835 --> 00:02:12,435 Speaker 1: by Jake Tapper, by Jim Shudo, by Jim Acosta, by 27 00:02:12,435 --> 00:02:14,995 Speaker 1: the dozens of hard working reporters in the field, by 28 00:02:15,035 --> 00:02:17,915 Speaker 1: the producers, by everybody else who works there, not one 29 00:02:17,955 --> 00:02:21,435 Speaker 1: of whom quit in protest of this prostituting of their 30 00:02:21,475 --> 00:02:25,475 Speaker 1: news brand and their personal reputations, not one of whom 31 00:02:25,955 --> 00:02:28,635 Speaker 1: even let out an anonymous squeak of regret to a 32 00:02:28,675 --> 00:02:32,195 Speaker 1: real journalist covering this story. It must now be assumed 33 00:02:32,555 --> 00:02:36,475 Speaker 1: that everybody who works on or for CNN are all 34 00:02:37,035 --> 00:02:41,235 Speaker 1: lying because they work for a liar, and they appear 35 00:02:41,275 --> 00:02:44,875 Speaker 1: on a channel dedicated to line which has just sold 36 00:02:44,915 --> 00:02:47,475 Speaker 1: the few remaining shards of its soul to the greatest 37 00:02:47,555 --> 00:02:53,915 Speaker 1: liar of our time in Trump, CNN is now Fox News. 38 00:02:56,155 --> 00:03:00,115 Speaker 1: If there was one consensus among virtually every American news organization, 39 00:03:00,195 --> 00:03:01,915 Speaker 1: it was that there was no way any of them 40 00:03:02,195 --> 00:03:06,075 Speaker 1: could rationalize treating Trump now the way they treated him 41 00:03:06,075 --> 00:03:09,355 Speaker 1: in twenty fifteen, that he was now a proven would 42 00:03:09,355 --> 00:03:13,275 Speaker 1: be dictator who repeatedly tried to orchestrate the overthrow of 43 00:03:13,315 --> 00:03:17,115 Speaker 1: the duly elected government of this country. Not even Fox 44 00:03:18,035 --> 00:03:21,995 Speaker 1: has been repeating its filating of this creature Trump, but 45 00:03:22,155 --> 00:03:26,035 Speaker 1: CNN now is now. If Chris Lick and CNN people 46 00:03:26,075 --> 00:03:30,955 Speaker 1: there did any thinking about this disqualifying act of reportorial malfeasance, 47 00:03:31,395 --> 00:03:35,195 Speaker 1: it was not about learning anything about the catastrophic enabling 48 00:03:35,235 --> 00:03:39,155 Speaker 1: of American media of Trump in twenty sixteen, because Chris 49 00:03:39,195 --> 00:03:44,435 Speaker 1: Lick is fantastically stupid and reprehensible and amorl and irresponsible, 50 00:03:44,675 --> 00:03:48,275 Speaker 1: and he cannot learn a thing now. If he and 51 00:03:48,395 --> 00:03:52,395 Speaker 1: CNN did any thinking about this at all, it began 52 00:03:52,475 --> 00:03:56,955 Speaker 1: and ended with this sentence, Ooh, Fox's viewers are really 53 00:03:57,035 --> 00:03:59,875 Speaker 1: pissed off at them for firing Tucker Carlson. I bet 54 00:03:59,915 --> 00:04:03,595 Speaker 1: we can win them over by putting Trump on that 55 00:04:04,035 --> 00:04:06,835 Speaker 1: entire fire Fox audience is out there for the taking. 56 00:04:10,075 --> 00:04:12,515 Speaker 1: It then took Trump barely two and a half hours 57 00:04:12,555 --> 00:04:16,315 Speaker 1: after the CNN announcement to shit all over CNN and 58 00:04:16,395 --> 00:04:21,315 Speaker 1: American journalism and the First Amendment and this country, all 59 00:04:21,355 --> 00:04:25,475 Speaker 1: of which licked and CNN have betrayed. That two and 60 00:04:25,515 --> 00:04:28,235 Speaker 1: a half hours later is when Vanity Fair reported that 61 00:04:28,275 --> 00:04:32,595 Speaker 1: it had obtained a recording of Trump abusing, threatening, and 62 00:04:32,595 --> 00:04:35,635 Speaker 1: then grabbing the phones of an NBC reporter named Vaughan 63 00:04:35,715 --> 00:04:38,755 Speaker 1: Hilliard because he did not like what Hilliard had asked him. 64 00:04:39,115 --> 00:04:42,875 Speaker 1: Don't ask me any more questions, Trump snapped at Hilliard 65 00:04:43,155 --> 00:04:45,075 Speaker 1: on board a flight to a rally in Texas. The 66 00:04:45,155 --> 00:04:48,435 Speaker 1: date was March twenty sixth. Hilliard had asked about Trump's 67 00:04:48,555 --> 00:04:52,115 Speaker 1: seeming frustration about the Alvin Bragg investigation here in New York. 68 00:04:52,435 --> 00:04:55,835 Speaker 1: That latest attack on the free press by Trump we 69 00:04:55,875 --> 00:04:59,475 Speaker 1: already knew about, but new to our knowledge of just 70 00:04:59,515 --> 00:05:03,755 Speaker 1: how sick and dangerous and violent Trump is is Vanity 71 00:05:03,795 --> 00:05:07,635 Speaker 1: Fair's further report that ten minutes later, this NBC reporter 72 00:05:07,715 --> 00:05:12,915 Speaker 1: Hilliard tried to ask Trump more questions about brag. Trump 73 00:05:13,195 --> 00:05:17,395 Speaker 1: then grabbed Hilliard's phones, grabbed them out of the reporter's 74 00:05:17,635 --> 00:05:21,355 Speaker 1: pile and toss those phones aside. I don't want to 75 00:05:21,395 --> 00:05:24,475 Speaker 1: talk to you. Trump is heard saying on the recording 76 00:05:24,515 --> 00:05:27,075 Speaker 1: of the event, do you hear me? You're not a 77 00:05:27,155 --> 00:05:31,315 Speaker 1: nice guy. When Hilliard persisted, Trump lost it, quoting again, 78 00:05:31,515 --> 00:05:34,595 Speaker 1: all right, let's go get him out of here, out 79 00:05:34,635 --> 00:05:38,875 Speaker 1: of here, out of here. Has Hilliard again tried to 80 00:05:38,915 --> 00:05:41,835 Speaker 1: ask a question? Now, a Trump minion is heard on 81 00:05:41,835 --> 00:05:45,555 Speaker 1: the tape saying, Vaughn, We're done. Trump then turned his 82 00:05:45,595 --> 00:05:48,395 Speaker 1: attention to the phones that were still recording him. Whose 83 00:05:48,515 --> 00:05:51,595 Speaker 1: is this, he asked? Hilliard said it was his. Trump 84 00:05:51,675 --> 00:05:54,475 Speaker 1: picked up his another phone. Whose is this? He asked? 85 00:05:54,715 --> 00:05:57,475 Speaker 1: Hilliard said the second one was also his. Trump then 86 00:05:57,795 --> 00:06:01,635 Speaker 1: threw both phones and quoting Vanity Fair again, out of 87 00:06:01,675 --> 00:06:04,275 Speaker 1: his sight, onto the seat next to him. The thud 88 00:06:04,355 --> 00:06:06,875 Speaker 1: of one one of the phones hitting a surface can 89 00:06:06,915 --> 00:06:10,555 Speaker 1: be heard in the recording. Vanity Fair reports that another 90 00:06:10,595 --> 00:06:14,515 Speaker 1: reporter tried to continue the interview. It identifies four other 91 00:06:14,595 --> 00:06:17,235 Speaker 1: media members who had been in the airborne gaggle with 92 00:06:17,355 --> 00:06:21,555 Speaker 1: Hilliard before Trump had Hilliard expelled. There was an Associated 93 00:06:21,555 --> 00:06:24,635 Speaker 1: Press photographer, there were writers from Axios and the Daily Mail, 94 00:06:24,915 --> 00:06:29,875 Speaker 1: and there was Brian Glenn of the RSBN streaming propaganda channel. 95 00:06:30,795 --> 00:06:35,555 Speaker 1: Brian Glenn is the one dating Marjorie Taylor Green. This 96 00:06:36,155 --> 00:06:39,635 Speaker 1: is the kind of conduct towards the media, towards the 97 00:06:39,675 --> 00:06:47,115 Speaker 1: First Amendment, towards people, towards America, which Chris Licked just 98 00:06:47,235 --> 00:06:51,435 Speaker 1: rewarded by handing over editorial control of CNN to Trump 99 00:06:51,755 --> 00:06:55,635 Speaker 1: for at least an hour next week and for untold 100 00:06:55,675 --> 00:07:00,155 Speaker 1: guest appearances later. But it must also be noted here 101 00:07:00,155 --> 00:07:04,675 Speaker 1: that clearly NBC News also rewarded this scumbag Trump's delusion 102 00:07:04,995 --> 00:07:09,195 Speaker 1: of omnipotence. NBC News did not report his aggressive behavior 103 00:07:09,235 --> 00:07:12,955 Speaker 1: towards its own reporter, even though it was witnessed and recorded, 104 00:07:13,395 --> 00:07:16,315 Speaker 1: and the Vanity Fair article clearly identifies that the recording 105 00:07:16,355 --> 00:07:18,475 Speaker 1: it heard was made on one of the phones of 106 00:07:18,595 --> 00:07:24,435 Speaker 1: NBC's Vaughn Hilliard. NBC did not defend von Hilliard. NBC 107 00:07:24,555 --> 00:07:27,915 Speaker 1: has not offered any explanation of its misconduct in attempting 108 00:07:27,915 --> 00:07:31,555 Speaker 1: to appease Trump, but a throwaway line in the Politico 109 00:07:31,675 --> 00:07:34,515 Speaker 1: coverage of the Trump CNN News seems to explain what 110 00:07:34,555 --> 00:07:38,515 Speaker 1: the hell. NBC News chairman Saysar Conde and NBC News 111 00:07:38,595 --> 00:07:43,315 Speaker 1: President Noah Oppenheim are doing. Quote, the former president and 112 00:07:43,395 --> 00:07:47,915 Speaker 1: his staff have re engaged the mainstream press corps after 113 00:07:48,035 --> 00:07:51,315 Speaker 1: largely shunning them. They have been in talks for sit 114 00:07:51,475 --> 00:08:00,355 Speaker 1: downs with several other notable outlets, including NBC. In short, 115 00:08:00,435 --> 00:08:05,195 Speaker 1: Conde and Oppenheim and NBC have been doing with Trump 116 00:08:05,195 --> 00:08:09,475 Speaker 1: what CNN has been doing with Trump, hoaring themselves out, 117 00:08:10,075 --> 00:08:13,675 Speaker 1: except NBC hasn't been quite as successful at it as 118 00:08:13,675 --> 00:08:20,755 Speaker 1: CNN has. Yet it will not happen. People don't do 119 00:08:20,875 --> 00:08:23,715 Speaker 1: this anymore. You are not rewarded for courage or ethics. 120 00:08:23,875 --> 00:08:29,955 Speaker 1: You are suspected. But CNN's irredeemable failure here and NBCs 121 00:08:30,395 --> 00:08:33,435 Speaker 1: should be responded to not just by a viewer boycott, 122 00:08:33,635 --> 00:08:36,475 Speaker 1: but by mass resignations by its hosts and reporters, and 123 00:08:36,555 --> 00:08:40,475 Speaker 1: more practically, by its contributors and its regular guests, for 124 00:08:40,555 --> 00:08:44,475 Speaker 1: whom there is bluntly less money on the table. This 125 00:08:44,755 --> 00:08:49,795 Speaker 1: is CNN turning over its network to Hitler only after 126 00:08:50,035 --> 00:08:52,795 Speaker 1: the world had learned what Hitler really was, and after 127 00:08:52,835 --> 00:08:54,995 Speaker 1: the world had been saved from him, and if he 128 00:08:55,035 --> 00:09:00,275 Speaker 1: had been scheming and plotting to regain power. But if 129 00:09:00,315 --> 00:09:02,555 Speaker 1: you go on CNN after this, you are part of 130 00:09:02,595 --> 00:09:06,275 Speaker 1: CNN's collaboration with Trump and the genuine evil he represents. 131 00:09:06,635 --> 00:09:11,675 Speaker 1: You are part of that collaboration. Anderson Cooper, you are 132 00:09:11,755 --> 00:09:15,715 Speaker 1: part of that collaboration. Christiana I'm on poor, You are 133 00:09:15,795 --> 00:09:21,115 Speaker 1: part of that collaboration. Manu Raju, and let us not 134 00:09:21,155 --> 00:09:24,155 Speaker 1: delude ourselves as to what kind of collaboration CNN and 135 00:09:24,235 --> 00:09:27,875 Speaker 1: Chris Lickt are committing here. Even though veteran Republican political 136 00:09:27,875 --> 00:09:32,195 Speaker 1: operative David Frumb quickly observed quote Trump using CNN to 137 00:09:32,355 --> 00:09:36,475 Speaker 1: punish Fox for its big tilt to DeSantis, there should 138 00:09:36,515 --> 00:09:40,555 Speaker 1: be no diminishing of our contempt of or reaction to 139 00:09:40,835 --> 00:09:45,075 Speaker 1: CNN for this journalistic crime. CNN is not responding to 140 00:09:45,115 --> 00:09:48,595 Speaker 1: a desperate play by Trump's latest handlers to mainstream him 141 00:09:49,075 --> 00:09:52,475 Speaker 1: or to try to sand down the rough inconvenient edges 142 00:09:52,555 --> 00:09:56,955 Speaker 1: of insurrection, or otherwise gas light the nation. CNN and 143 00:09:57,115 --> 00:10:02,475 Speaker 1: Lickt started this again, quoting Politico. A person familiar with 144 00:10:02,515 --> 00:10:06,635 Speaker 1: the discussion said CNN approached the the Trump campaign several 145 00:10:06,795 --> 00:10:10,795 Speaker 1: months ago, and talks between the two sides continued on 146 00:10:10,915 --> 00:10:16,315 Speaker 1: until Monday, when the plans were locked down on quote, 147 00:10:16,755 --> 00:10:22,515 Speaker 1: Chris licked solicited Trump the way a street walker solicits 148 00:10:22,555 --> 00:10:27,835 Speaker 1: a client and not the other way around. But there 149 00:10:27,875 --> 00:10:29,875 Speaker 1: is a second red flag in that part of the 150 00:10:29,875 --> 00:10:33,875 Speaker 1: background to this deal between two devils are the plans 151 00:10:34,635 --> 00:10:39,675 Speaker 1: locked down. The phrasing of CNN's announcement about its perfidy 152 00:10:39,755 --> 00:10:46,035 Speaker 1: in print and on camera has been consistent, specific, and strange. Quote. 153 00:10:46,955 --> 00:10:50,875 Speaker 1: Caitlin Collins will moderate the event, which will feature the 154 00:10:50,915 --> 00:10:55,355 Speaker 1: former president taking questions from New Hampshire Republicans and undeclared 155 00:10:55,435 --> 00:10:58,035 Speaker 1: voters who planned to vote in the twenty twenty four 156 00:10:58,115 --> 00:11:03,995 Speaker 1: GOP presidential primary. Unquote, will Caitlyn Collins ask any questions? 157 00:11:04,795 --> 00:11:08,875 Speaker 1: Will she fact check? The verb used to describe what 158 00:11:08,915 --> 00:11:12,875 Speaker 1: the hell she's doing there is moderate. While the questioners 159 00:11:13,235 --> 00:11:17,355 Speaker 1: are painstakingly identified as Republicans and others voting in the 160 00:11:17,395 --> 00:11:23,195 Speaker 1: New Hampshire presidential primary, only voters will ask questions of Trump. 161 00:11:24,235 --> 00:11:27,395 Speaker 1: Sixty three percent of Republican voters still believe President Biden 162 00:11:27,475 --> 00:11:31,675 Speaker 1: did not win the twenty twenty election. It isn't just 163 00:11:31,755 --> 00:11:34,955 Speaker 1: that CNN is turning over its cameras, its facilities, its 164 00:11:34,995 --> 00:11:40,235 Speaker 1: wasted reputation to Donald Trump. It is turning over questioning 165 00:11:40,355 --> 00:11:45,315 Speaker 1: Trump to people who are also lying, or deluded or 166 00:11:45,355 --> 00:11:49,515 Speaker 1: both people who, if we have any chance of saving 167 00:11:49,595 --> 00:11:53,635 Speaker 1: representative government in this country, must be shunned and scorned 168 00:11:53,795 --> 00:11:58,715 Speaker 1: and isolated and defeated, as Trump must be shunned and 169 00:11:58,755 --> 00:12:02,875 Speaker 1: scorned and isolated and defeated, and not as Chris Lickt 170 00:12:02,875 --> 00:12:06,915 Speaker 1: has just done, given their her own national TV show 171 00:12:07,475 --> 00:12:11,475 Speaker 1: on what is allegedly a news network and left to 172 00:12:11,595 --> 00:12:20,355 Speaker 1: control its editorial content themselves live because clearly there are 173 00:12:20,435 --> 00:12:25,595 Speaker 1: to be no journalists present. Caitlin Collins will be there, 174 00:12:26,555 --> 00:12:31,235 Speaker 1: but she works for CNN, so after this nightmare, at 175 00:12:31,315 --> 00:12:35,955 Speaker 1: best she is as all who work at CNN now, 176 00:12:36,115 --> 00:12:55,235 Speaker 1: are ex journalists still ahead? On this edition of Countdown? 177 00:12:55,315 --> 00:12:58,395 Speaker 1: I find that Yes, in the first episode of this podcast, 178 00:12:58,435 --> 00:13:01,355 Speaker 1: I began to warn you about and criticize to you 179 00:13:01,875 --> 00:13:06,515 Speaker 1: what Chris Lickt would do to CNN in the first episode. 180 00:13:06,595 --> 00:13:08,635 Speaker 1: This one now, the one you're listening to right now, 181 00:13:08,675 --> 00:13:12,675 Speaker 1: This is episode number one hundred and ninety one. Let 182 00:13:12,715 --> 00:13:14,675 Speaker 1: me tell you the backstory of when Lickt and I 183 00:13:14,755 --> 00:13:17,515 Speaker 1: worked at MSNBC at the same time, and he was 184 00:13:17,675 --> 00:13:21,315 Speaker 1: just the henchman for Joe Scarborough's attempt to silence all 185 00:13:21,395 --> 00:13:25,835 Speaker 1: liberal voices there. Out of a total of six hundred 186 00:13:25,875 --> 00:13:28,275 Speaker 1: thousand dollars raised so far this year. How much of 187 00:13:28,315 --> 00:13:32,275 Speaker 1: those campaign contributions would you guess Marjorie Taylor Green has 188 00:13:32,315 --> 00:13:37,035 Speaker 1: gotten from inside the district she represents. Now the figure 189 00:13:37,075 --> 00:13:40,675 Speaker 1: is lower than that. Nah, it's figures lower than that too. 190 00:13:41,915 --> 00:13:45,155 Speaker 1: And what a week Dan Bongino is having. And he 191 00:13:45,155 --> 00:13:47,955 Speaker 1: gets fired as a weekend host by Fox. And though 192 00:13:47,955 --> 00:13:50,795 Speaker 1: his podcast appears to show up among the six most 193 00:13:50,835 --> 00:13:54,595 Speaker 1: popular in this country, it seems that all his listeners 194 00:13:54,635 --> 00:14:01,195 Speaker 1: think his name is actually John ben Gino. That's next. 195 00:14:01,315 --> 00:14:10,875 Speaker 1: This is his countdown or is it catamount down? This 196 00:14:11,235 --> 00:14:18,355 Speaker 1: is countdown with Keith Olberman coming up. It was the 197 00:14:18,355 --> 00:14:22,155 Speaker 1: great mystery of MSNBC. How did Joe Scarborough and his 198 00:14:22,275 --> 00:14:25,475 Speaker 1: producer ever get their own show on the air when 199 00:14:25,475 --> 00:14:27,955 Speaker 1: they seem to spend all their time trying to sabotage 200 00:14:28,075 --> 00:14:32,195 Speaker 1: all the other shows on the air. Scarborough's producer's name 201 00:14:32,395 --> 00:14:36,315 Speaker 1: was Chris licked First postscripts to the news, some headlines, 202 00:14:36,355 --> 00:14:40,755 Speaker 1: some updates, some snarks, some predictions. Dateline Rome, Georgia. First 203 00:14:40,795 --> 00:14:44,955 Speaker 1: quarter fundraising is in from the Georgia fourteenth Congressional district. 204 00:14:44,995 --> 00:14:48,795 Speaker 1: Marjorie Barney Rubbell Green has raised six hundred and one thousand, 205 00:14:49,035 --> 00:14:52,755 Speaker 1: five hundred and eighteen dollars this year the locations of 206 00:14:52,795 --> 00:14:57,275 Speaker 1: her top donors seventeen thousand dollars came from Arizona, fourteen 207 00:14:57,355 --> 00:15:01,435 Speaker 1: thousand came from Texas. What about inside her own congressional district. 208 00:15:01,515 --> 00:15:04,635 Speaker 1: Out of that six hundred and one thousand dollars raised, 209 00:15:05,595 --> 00:15:09,395 Speaker 1: she got twenty three hundred bucks twenty three hundred dollars 210 00:15:09,435 --> 00:15:14,795 Speaker 1: donated to her campaign inside her own district from six voters, 211 00:15:15,555 --> 00:15:19,275 Speaker 1: six people that she actually represents. Only six of them 212 00:15:19,315 --> 00:15:23,675 Speaker 1: donated any money to her campaign, which should tell you 213 00:15:23,755 --> 00:15:27,635 Speaker 1: something about how they feel there about Barney Rubbell Green. 214 00:15:47,795 --> 00:15:50,915 Speaker 1: Thank you, Nancy Faust, Dateline New York nothing worse than 215 00:15:50,955 --> 00:15:54,315 Speaker 1: having to give the book advance back. The Daily Beast 216 00:15:54,355 --> 00:15:58,195 Speaker 1: reports that's the apparent fate of columnist Miranda Divine, who 217 00:15:58,275 --> 00:16:02,315 Speaker 1: thought she had finessed the famous publishing hat trick. Divine 218 00:16:02,355 --> 00:16:04,555 Speaker 1: works for The New York Post, owned by Rupert mur 219 00:16:05,235 --> 00:16:08,395 Speaker 1: Her book was to be published by HarperCollins, owned by 220 00:16:08,435 --> 00:16:10,995 Speaker 1: Rupert Murdoch, and the subject of her book was to 221 00:16:11,035 --> 00:16:13,795 Speaker 1: be one of the stars of Fox quote news unquote, 222 00:16:13,995 --> 00:16:19,795 Speaker 1: owned by Rupert Murdoch. Unfortunately, that star was Tucker Carlson, 223 00:16:19,955 --> 00:16:23,195 Speaker 1: who has been owned by Rupert Murdoch. In an entirely 224 00:16:23,275 --> 00:16:26,715 Speaker 1: different meaning of that phrase, the book is on hold. 225 00:16:27,275 --> 00:16:30,115 Speaker 1: Dateline Here in the Nation of podcasts, you good news 226 00:16:30,155 --> 00:16:34,075 Speaker 1: and bad news for Dan Bongino, the right winger himself 227 00:16:34,155 --> 00:16:36,995 Speaker 1: offed from his weekend show by Fox, except nobody remembers 228 00:16:37,115 --> 00:16:39,275 Speaker 1: because it was like the day before Carlson got fired. 229 00:16:39,315 --> 00:16:43,195 Speaker 1: A report on the fragmentation of the podcasting business by 230 00:16:43,195 --> 00:16:47,595 Speaker 1: the website Semaphore identifies Bonginos as one of the top 231 00:16:47,715 --> 00:16:52,595 Speaker 1: six most popular podcasts. Sixty one percent of podcast listeners 232 00:16:52,595 --> 00:16:56,555 Speaker 1: say they have one podcast they listen to most. Five 233 00:16:56,635 --> 00:17:00,995 Speaker 1: percent of those said Joe Rogan, two percent said The 234 00:17:00,995 --> 00:17:05,275 Speaker 1: New York Times Daily, one percent said Crime Junkie, one 235 00:17:05,275 --> 00:17:09,755 Speaker 1: percent said Ben Shapiro, one percent Dateline but litterally did 236 00:17:09,835 --> 00:17:16,995 Speaker 1: they know? And one percent quote the John Banginosh. No, 237 00:17:17,435 --> 00:17:21,275 Speaker 1: you know there is a John Bongino or Bongino, but 238 00:17:21,315 --> 00:17:25,715 Speaker 1: he's listed as the building supervisor for Smithtown on Long Island. 239 00:17:25,875 --> 00:17:29,155 Speaker 1: And if there's a popular podcast about the Department of 240 00:17:29,195 --> 00:17:34,555 Speaker 1: Buildings in Smithtown, Long Island, New York, I'm doing this wrong. Therefore, 241 00:17:34,635 --> 00:17:37,435 Speaker 1: one must assume that either semaphore has no idea who 242 00:17:37,675 --> 00:17:43,035 Speaker 1: Dan Bongino is or his listeners don't and dateline. Johns 243 00:17:43,075 --> 00:17:46,955 Speaker 1: Hopkins University. Researchers there say that their research has found 244 00:17:46,955 --> 00:17:49,755 Speaker 1: that from two thousand and one through twenty twenty, more 245 00:17:49,795 --> 00:17:52,835 Speaker 1: than four hundred and twenty two thousand American adults were 246 00:17:52,875 --> 00:17:57,995 Speaker 1: injured and needed treatment in emergency rooms for finger fractures, 247 00:17:58,355 --> 00:18:03,555 Speaker 1: shoulder injuries, hit problems, knee problems, traumatic brain injuries, other trauma. 248 00:18:04,115 --> 00:18:08,435 Speaker 1: Four hundred twenty two thousand er visits over twenty years, 249 00:18:08,915 --> 00:18:12,315 Speaker 1: and each one of them stemmed from accidents occurring while 250 00:18:13,355 --> 00:18:20,235 Speaker 1: they walked their dogs on a leash. Still absolutely worth it, 251 00:18:26,475 --> 00:18:30,155 Speaker 1: Still Ahead on Countdown. CNN's own media reporter last night 252 00:18:30,235 --> 00:18:34,115 Speaker 1: quoted a Trump source who says CNN executives made a 253 00:18:34,195 --> 00:18:37,155 Speaker 1: compelling pitch to Trump to get him to, you know, 254 00:18:37,635 --> 00:18:40,275 Speaker 1: destroy their own network. The last part of that is 255 00:18:40,355 --> 00:18:45,515 Speaker 1: my words, but executives which executives. On the other hand, 256 00:18:45,555 --> 00:18:48,835 Speaker 1: if you're chairman and CEO of CNN, it doesn't really 257 00:18:48,915 --> 00:18:51,995 Speaker 1: matter who else besides you, You're the one who will 258 00:18:52,035 --> 00:18:56,075 Speaker 1: be symbolically defenestrated sooner or later. The backstory of me 259 00:18:56,155 --> 00:18:59,355 Speaker 1: and mister Lick coming up first time for the daily 260 00:18:59,395 --> 00:19:01,515 Speaker 1: round up with the miss Grants, morons and Dunning KRUGERFFC 261 00:19:01,515 --> 00:19:05,435 Speaker 1: specimens who constitute today's worst persons in the world. The 262 00:19:05,515 --> 00:19:09,355 Speaker 1: Bronze Greg Abbott won yesterday for being so detached from 263 00:19:09,355 --> 00:19:13,275 Speaker 1: reality and humanity that, when offering a reward for information 264 00:19:13,355 --> 00:19:17,115 Speaker 1: on the murderer who executed five people in Abbot's state, 265 00:19:17,635 --> 00:19:20,555 Speaker 1: he couldn't not dog whistle and refer to the victims 266 00:19:20,595 --> 00:19:25,315 Speaker 1: as quote illegal immigrants unquote. That was bad enough. It 267 00:19:25,355 --> 00:19:30,555 Speaker 1: turns out at least one was not. Abbot lied. Diana 268 00:19:30,635 --> 00:19:34,435 Speaker 1: velaskez Alvarado had permanent resident status here and the government 269 00:19:34,435 --> 00:19:38,355 Speaker 1: ID card to prove it. I am surprised Abbot has 270 00:19:38,395 --> 00:19:41,915 Speaker 1: not yet reversed himself and now announced how furious he 271 00:19:41,995 --> 00:19:45,595 Speaker 1: is that Miss velaskz Alvarado was the victim of an 272 00:19:45,595 --> 00:19:50,875 Speaker 1: illegal immigrant murderer. Governor Greg Abbott is a genuinely sick man. 273 00:19:52,195 --> 00:19:56,595 Speaker 1: Runner up Donald J. Chump. Politics always makes strange bedfellows, 274 00:19:56,595 --> 00:19:59,795 Speaker 1: but the worst Person segment has always made strange bedfellows, 275 00:19:59,835 --> 00:20:04,555 Speaker 1: strange bedding, strange mattress covers, you name it. Thus, I 276 00:20:04,955 --> 00:20:12,035 Speaker 1: today defending Kayley Mcananey. Uh, I'm surprised the paper is 277 00:20:12,075 --> 00:20:16,355 Speaker 1: not burning in my hands. Apparently mcananey had been saying 278 00:20:16,395 --> 00:20:21,035 Speaker 1: positive things about Ron DeSantis recently. Then she complimented Trump 279 00:20:21,075 --> 00:20:23,835 Speaker 1: on a foreign policy speech, and so day before yesterday 280 00:20:24,035 --> 00:20:28,035 Speaker 1: he posted her compliment on social media, but added, I 281 00:20:28,115 --> 00:20:31,355 Speaker 1: guess Kaylee is no longer speaking so favorably about Rond 282 00:20:31,475 --> 00:20:36,715 Speaker 1: sanctimonious now that his polls are shot. Yes Trump attacked 283 00:20:36,915 --> 00:20:40,635 Speaker 1: Kaylee mcinaney. I have no use for Kayley mcananey. I 284 00:20:40,915 --> 00:20:43,555 Speaker 1: really don't have any sympathy for Kaylee mcananey. But she 285 00:20:43,755 --> 00:20:46,555 Speaker 1: carried her share of water for this turd, and she 286 00:20:46,755 --> 00:20:49,515 Speaker 1: risked her share of indictments for this turd. And this 287 00:20:49,715 --> 00:20:53,275 Speaker 1: just reminds you dealing with Trump guarantees that sooner or 288 00:20:53,435 --> 00:20:57,275 Speaker 1: later he will stab you in the back. Chris licked 289 00:20:58,555 --> 00:21:02,115 Speaker 1: but our winner Nikki Haley. It was sure a surprise 290 00:21:02,235 --> 00:21:05,515 Speaker 1: to devote yesterday's commentary to why Senator Diane Feinstein had 291 00:21:05,555 --> 00:21:08,635 Speaker 1: to resign, only to find out that Ambassador Haley had 292 00:21:08,835 --> 00:21:13,795 Speaker 1: tweeted that Senator Feinstein has to resign. My argument, of course, 293 00:21:14,355 --> 00:21:17,155 Speaker 1: was and is, we need that decisive vote for judges 294 00:21:17,675 --> 00:21:20,755 Speaker 1: and subpoenas on the Senate Judiciary Committee to look into 295 00:21:20,795 --> 00:21:24,835 Speaker 1: these six concurrent scandals on the Supreme Court. Surprisingly, that 296 00:21:25,035 --> 00:21:29,075 Speaker 1: is not Haley's argument. Hers is an attempt to attack 297 00:21:29,235 --> 00:21:34,475 Speaker 1: Trump and Biden kind of sideways by demanding competency tests 298 00:21:34,795 --> 00:21:38,395 Speaker 1: for any politician over the age of seventy five. I 299 00:21:38,435 --> 00:21:42,075 Speaker 1: don't know how many politicians you've met, or how many 300 00:21:42,115 --> 00:21:45,235 Speaker 1: people on TV, or how many people act, but it's 301 00:21:45,275 --> 00:21:47,835 Speaker 1: always been my argument that needing to be on stage 302 00:21:47,955 --> 00:21:51,835 Speaker 1: or on camera as a performer was a small scale 303 00:21:51,875 --> 00:21:54,715 Speaker 1: emotional illness. I mean, if you recognized it, you were 304 00:21:54,755 --> 00:21:57,675 Speaker 1: probably going to be okay. Man, that needing to be 305 00:21:57,755 --> 00:22:01,155 Speaker 1: on camera and have people listen to your opinions was 306 00:22:01,195 --> 00:22:04,195 Speaker 1: a worse form of that same illness, and recognizing it 307 00:22:04,195 --> 00:22:07,275 Speaker 1: would help but not exactly cure it. But that believing 308 00:22:07,355 --> 00:22:11,035 Speaker 1: your opinion should rule a nation as president was the 309 00:22:11,075 --> 00:22:16,475 Speaker 1: most dangerous version of that same illness. So yes, sure, 310 00:22:16,595 --> 00:22:20,475 Speaker 1: let's have competency tests for politicians, but not just ones 311 00:22:20,475 --> 00:22:22,635 Speaker 1: over the age of seventy five. I think we need 312 00:22:22,635 --> 00:22:26,995 Speaker 1: them for any politician of the age of eighteen. Nikki 313 00:22:27,155 --> 00:22:31,515 Speaker 1: no I said, competency test, not IQ test. Hayley two 314 00:22:31,595 --> 00:22:56,995 Speaker 1: Day's worst person in the world. Oh, ragers still ahead 315 00:22:56,995 --> 00:22:59,795 Speaker 1: on Countdown. I already told you this is Chris licked 316 00:22:59,995 --> 00:23:03,875 Speaker 1: mission accomplished day for the destruction of CNN. But if 317 00:23:03,915 --> 00:23:06,635 Speaker 1: you don't know my backstory with him, why I say 318 00:23:06,795 --> 00:23:09,195 Speaker 1: back at MSNBC, we used to think he ate paste 319 00:23:09,635 --> 00:23:11,395 Speaker 1: and how we all saw this day coming when he 320 00:23:11,435 --> 00:23:14,955 Speaker 1: would destroy a network. I will tell you my backstory 321 00:23:14,955 --> 00:23:17,635 Speaker 1: with him next. First in each edition of Countdown to 322 00:23:17,675 --> 00:23:19,675 Speaker 1: feature a dog in need you can help. Every dog 323 00:23:19,715 --> 00:23:24,435 Speaker 1: has its day to Tennessee and Canella. Canella was a 324 00:23:24,435 --> 00:23:27,515 Speaker 1: pop a sweet tempered tan hound, not too big, not 325 00:23:27,555 --> 00:23:30,955 Speaker 1: too small, but she was showing early signs of illness, 326 00:23:30,995 --> 00:23:35,195 Speaker 1: so her quote humans unquote abandoned her on the streets 327 00:23:36,195 --> 00:23:38,635 Speaker 1: For two years. She lived there, suffering all the time 328 00:23:38,675 --> 00:23:43,755 Speaker 1: with a parasitic infection called leishmaniasis, also with anemia and 329 00:23:43,795 --> 00:23:46,475 Speaker 1: a blood infection, and then House of Strays found her 330 00:23:46,515 --> 00:23:48,755 Speaker 1: and saved her. And the good news is, despite two 331 00:23:48,795 --> 00:23:52,195 Speaker 1: years of ever worsening illnesses, a series of medications and 332 00:23:52,235 --> 00:23:56,435 Speaker 1: antibiotics is getting her passed all three diseases. House of 333 00:23:56,515 --> 00:23:59,875 Speaker 1: Strays is collecting donations for Canela at Cudley dot com 334 00:24:00,075 --> 00:24:02,195 Speaker 1: and you can find her there or on my Twitter 335 00:24:02,235 --> 00:24:06,675 Speaker 1: feeds Canela with two ends, I thank you and Canella 336 00:24:06,755 --> 00:24:20,875 Speaker 1: thanks you. Perhaps the most amazing thing about my ten 337 00:24:20,995 --> 00:24:24,595 Speaker 1: years at MSNBC was the fact that Joe Scarborough and 338 00:24:24,715 --> 00:24:29,515 Speaker 1: his producers, especially his chief henchmen, ever got their own 339 00:24:29,715 --> 00:24:33,315 Speaker 1: show on the air. Because nobody I have ever worked 340 00:24:33,355 --> 00:24:37,515 Speaker 1: with in radio or television, in sports or news in 341 00:24:37,555 --> 00:24:41,035 Speaker 1: the twentieth century or the twenty first ever spent more 342 00:24:41,235 --> 00:24:45,035 Speaker 1: time trying to screw with other programs on the same 343 00:24:45,115 --> 00:24:49,555 Speaker 1: network than did Joe Scarborough. And until just about the 344 00:24:49,595 --> 00:24:52,635 Speaker 1: time I left in twenty eleven, the guy he sent 345 00:24:52,715 --> 00:24:55,755 Speaker 1: in to do most of the sabotage for him was 346 00:24:55,835 --> 00:24:59,515 Speaker 1: this henchman guy. The reason this should matter to you 347 00:24:59,595 --> 00:25:04,555 Speaker 1: now is Scarborough's henchman was Chris Lickt, the new president 348 00:25:04,555 --> 00:25:08,235 Speaker 1: of CNN. And if they scoured the nation to find 349 00:25:08,315 --> 00:25:11,555 Speaker 1: the worst person to run CNN in a time when 350 00:25:11,595 --> 00:25:15,955 Speaker 1: democracy is threatened by one political party and tepidly defended 351 00:25:15,955 --> 00:25:20,515 Speaker 1: by another, it's Chris licked I know, I know. You 352 00:25:20,555 --> 00:25:22,795 Speaker 1: turn on the TV and you see Joe Scarborough and 353 00:25:22,835 --> 00:25:27,195 Speaker 1: you see exactly what I see. A blank, dazed, darting, paranoid, 354 00:25:27,475 --> 00:25:32,635 Speaker 1: no soul, stupid check engine light. Look, but if you 355 00:25:32,675 --> 00:25:37,555 Speaker 1: don't trust me, trust my scars. My Joey Scars behind 356 00:25:37,595 --> 00:25:43,955 Speaker 1: that vapid face is a master saboteur. Early in two 357 00:25:43,995 --> 00:25:46,035 Speaker 1: thousand and eight, the late Tim Russert called me and 358 00:25:46,075 --> 00:25:48,915 Speaker 1: warned me that the GOP had upped its pressure on me. 359 00:25:49,075 --> 00:25:51,515 Speaker 1: He said he had heard from somebody in New York 360 00:25:52,515 --> 00:25:54,715 Speaker 1: that somebody in New York was going into the office 361 00:25:54,715 --> 00:25:57,355 Speaker 1: of the president of NBC News saying that Joe Scarborough 362 00:25:57,355 --> 00:26:00,315 Speaker 1: couldn't get his friend John McCain to come on to 363 00:26:00,435 --> 00:26:04,155 Speaker 1: his new Morning show because I was so critical of 364 00:26:04,275 --> 00:26:07,835 Speaker 1: McCain on countdown. Tim was not sure it was Scarborough, 365 00:26:08,035 --> 00:26:10,915 Speaker 1: but if it wasn't, who else could have gotten in 366 00:26:10,995 --> 00:26:14,635 Speaker 1: to see the president of NBC News other than Scarborough 367 00:26:14,795 --> 00:26:19,755 Speaker 1: or his executive producer. The evidence for the new CNN president, 368 00:26:19,795 --> 00:26:23,035 Speaker 1: mister Licht, being directly involved in interfering with programming to 369 00:26:23,075 --> 00:26:26,915 Speaker 1: benefit somebody else's friends or political cronies, was vague in 370 00:26:26,955 --> 00:26:29,675 Speaker 1: two thousand and eight, but not at all vague two 371 00:26:29,795 --> 00:26:34,475 Speaker 1: years later. Early in January twenty ten, the Republican candidate 372 00:26:34,475 --> 00:26:36,795 Speaker 1: to fill the Senate seat of the late Ted Kennedy, 373 00:26:37,155 --> 00:26:41,475 Speaker 1: Scott Brown, the former semi nude model was at a 374 00:26:41,595 --> 00:26:45,075 Speaker 1: rally when one of his supporters talked about quote shoving 375 00:26:45,195 --> 00:26:48,915 Speaker 1: a curling iron up the backside of the Democratic Senate 376 00:26:48,955 --> 00:26:53,075 Speaker 1: candidate Martha Cokeley. Scott Brown clearly heard the remark from 377 00:26:53,115 --> 00:26:56,915 Speaker 1: the crowd and responded, quote, we could do that. On 378 00:26:57,035 --> 00:26:59,995 Speaker 1: January eighteenth, on Countdown, I did a brief commentary about 379 00:27:00,035 --> 00:27:02,675 Speaker 1: how unsuitable Brown was for public office. I said he 380 00:27:02,755 --> 00:27:08,155 Speaker 1: was quote and irresponsible, homophobic, racist, reactionary, ex nude model, 381 00:27:08,435 --> 00:27:12,395 Speaker 1: t bagging, supporter of violence against women and against politicians 382 00:27:12,395 --> 00:27:16,515 Speaker 1: with whom he disagrees unquote. I had quotes from Brown. 383 00:27:16,955 --> 00:27:20,155 Speaker 1: I had videotape of him disparaging his minority opponent in 384 00:27:20,195 --> 00:27:23,555 Speaker 1: a local election to her face at a debate. To 385 00:27:23,715 --> 00:27:28,155 Speaker 1: back up what I said. An hour later, Joe Scarborough 386 00:27:28,155 --> 00:27:32,195 Speaker 1: commenced a tweet storm against me. Quote Olberman calls Brown 387 00:27:32,235 --> 00:27:36,795 Speaker 1: a homophobic, racist reactionary who supports violence against women. How 388 00:27:36,915 --> 00:27:40,835 Speaker 1: reckless and how sad it's no longer enough to simply 389 00:27:40,915 --> 00:27:43,715 Speaker 1: disagree with someone. I'm sorry, I just fell into my 390 00:27:43,715 --> 00:27:47,275 Speaker 1: Scarborough impression. Just as when Beck called a president racist, 391 00:27:47,755 --> 00:27:52,195 Speaker 1: this sort of rhetorical extremism must be discouraged it chapened 392 00:27:52,235 --> 00:27:57,515 Speaker 1: the debate, end quote and impression. Now there was a 393 00:27:57,555 --> 00:28:01,555 Speaker 1: standing rule at MSNBC. You want to criticize another MSNBC personality, 394 00:28:01,995 --> 00:28:06,715 Speaker 1: go ahead, have a blast, but it must be on 395 00:28:06,915 --> 00:28:09,635 Speaker 1: the air on MSNBC, and the other person must have 396 00:28:09,675 --> 00:28:13,035 Speaker 1: an opportunity to reply in real time, in the same 397 00:28:13,115 --> 00:28:15,395 Speaker 1: show or in some kind of face to face way. 398 00:28:15,955 --> 00:28:22,075 Speaker 1: No hit and run, no Joe Scarborough tweetstorms. If you 399 00:28:22,155 --> 00:28:24,675 Speaker 1: criticize them by name or by inference in any other 400 00:28:24,755 --> 00:28:28,275 Speaker 1: medium newspaper, interview, radio, social media, you were to receive 401 00:28:28,315 --> 00:28:32,755 Speaker 1: an automatic suspension. The next day, January nineteenth, I called 402 00:28:32,755 --> 00:28:35,515 Speaker 1: the president of MSNBC, Phil Griffin, and I asked how 403 00:28:35,595 --> 00:28:40,275 Speaker 1: long Joe Scarborough's automatic suspension was going to be. Griffin 404 00:28:40,595 --> 00:28:43,115 Speaker 1: asked me to come into the office a little earlier 405 00:28:43,115 --> 00:28:46,315 Speaker 1: than usual and to go see him. He said he 406 00:28:46,355 --> 00:28:48,475 Speaker 1: had already had a meeting about the tweets that morning 407 00:28:48,515 --> 00:28:54,235 Speaker 1: with Scarborough's executive producer, Chris Lickt. Griffin explained that Scarborough, 408 00:28:54,755 --> 00:29:00,555 Speaker 1: according to Lickt, considered Scott Brown a friend. More importantly, 409 00:29:00,595 --> 00:29:03,155 Speaker 1: Chris Lickt warned Griffin that if Griffin followed through and 410 00:29:03,315 --> 00:29:07,355 Speaker 1: enforced the suspension rule, Scarborough would have no other option 411 00:29:07,475 --> 00:29:11,195 Speaker 1: than to go to the press and tell reporters, especially 412 00:29:11,275 --> 00:29:15,435 Speaker 1: reporters at right wing websites like Tucker Carlson's The Daily Caller, 413 00:29:16,515 --> 00:29:19,635 Speaker 1: that he Scarborough had been suspended because he Scarborough was 414 00:29:19,675 --> 00:29:24,795 Speaker 1: a conservative, but I was a liberal, and that I 415 00:29:24,835 --> 00:29:30,635 Speaker 1: and not Phil Griffin ran MSNBC. What can I do? 416 00:29:31,475 --> 00:29:35,195 Speaker 1: Griffin was scared. I told him he could fire Scarborough 417 00:29:35,195 --> 00:29:37,835 Speaker 1: and Licked because they had just tried to blackmail him, 418 00:29:37,955 --> 00:29:39,915 Speaker 1: and eventually he was going to have to fire them 419 00:29:39,915 --> 00:29:42,275 Speaker 1: both anyway, but that I knew he would not do this, 420 00:29:42,595 --> 00:29:44,635 Speaker 1: and that I knew now that he would not suspend 421 00:29:44,715 --> 00:29:48,915 Speaker 1: Scarborough either, And Griffin did not suspend him. Partial score 422 00:29:49,035 --> 00:29:56,315 Speaker 1: Scarborough's friends two MSNBC's rules of behavior nothing, but Phil 423 00:29:56,355 --> 00:29:59,635 Speaker 1: Griffin did send out a memo to the entire company 424 00:29:59,675 --> 00:30:03,675 Speaker 1: insisting that anybody who criticized another MSNBC show or host 425 00:30:03,955 --> 00:30:08,275 Speaker 1: in another media would be suspended, except Scarborough, who had 426 00:30:08,315 --> 00:30:11,475 Speaker 1: just done exactly that and then threatened his own employers. 427 00:30:12,795 --> 00:30:16,795 Speaker 1: On January twenty fifth, Brian Stelter's old blog TV newser 428 00:30:16,835 --> 00:30:20,155 Speaker 1: got a copy of Griffin's memo. They wondered why Scarborough 429 00:30:20,155 --> 00:30:23,435 Speaker 1: had not been suspended, so they called the MSNBC president 430 00:30:23,515 --> 00:30:27,275 Speaker 1: and they printed quote Griffin responds to TV News or quote 431 00:30:27,595 --> 00:30:30,955 Speaker 1: an important rule was broken. I spoke to Keith and 432 00:30:30,995 --> 00:30:33,915 Speaker 1: he said, in the spirit of teamwork and the free 433 00:30:34,155 --> 00:30:37,955 Speaker 1: flow of ideas, he didn't think it warranted punishment or suspension. 434 00:30:38,315 --> 00:30:41,115 Speaker 1: I also talked to Joe and he apologized to me. 435 00:30:41,995 --> 00:30:44,875 Speaker 1: That's why I made the decision that this didn't rise 436 00:30:44,915 --> 00:30:46,675 Speaker 1: to the level of punishment. But I felt it was 437 00:30:46,715 --> 00:30:51,155 Speaker 1: necessary to reiterate my long standing policy one hundred percent 438 00:30:51,235 --> 00:30:54,155 Speaker 1: bull crap. Reiterate my long standing policy which I just 439 00:30:54,235 --> 00:30:56,755 Speaker 1: did not enforce against Joe Scarborough. The whole thing was 440 00:30:56,795 --> 00:31:01,075 Speaker 1: totally fabricated. Lickt and Scarborough had threatened to smear their 441 00:31:01,075 --> 00:31:05,235 Speaker 1: own bosses in the right wing echo chamber. Should have 442 00:31:05,275 --> 00:31:08,955 Speaker 1: been both fired on the spot. In May twenty ten, 443 00:31:09,515 --> 00:31:11,995 Speaker 1: Scarborough said something on the air about a Democrat getting 444 00:31:12,035 --> 00:31:15,875 Speaker 1: away with not being investigated for something. I forget the details. 445 00:31:15,915 --> 00:31:17,635 Speaker 1: I didn't bother to look it up. You can if 446 00:31:17,675 --> 00:31:21,635 Speaker 1: you want. Then. Marcos Mulitsus, the editor of the Daily 447 00:31:21,715 --> 00:31:24,675 Speaker 1: Coast website and not just a regular contributor to Countdown, 448 00:31:24,675 --> 00:31:27,315 Speaker 1: but somebody who had been promoting the show and the 449 00:31:27,435 --> 00:31:31,275 Speaker 1: MSNBC brand on that website every day for five years. 450 00:31:32,155 --> 00:31:36,795 Speaker 1: Marcos sent a snarky but legitimate tweet questioning Scarborough's credentials 451 00:31:36,835 --> 00:31:39,915 Speaker 1: to criticize others who had not been investigated for stuff, 452 00:31:40,355 --> 00:31:43,715 Speaker 1: Marcos invoked the staffer who died in an accident in 453 00:31:43,795 --> 00:31:49,155 Speaker 1: Joe Scarborough's congressional office. Scarborough then attacked Melitsus on Twitter, 454 00:31:49,475 --> 00:31:55,075 Speaker 1: inaccurately claiming Malitzus had accused Scarborough of murder. A few 455 00:31:55,155 --> 00:31:56,955 Speaker 1: days after that, I got a phone call from the 456 00:31:57,035 --> 00:31:59,355 Speaker 1: MSNBC president, Phil Griffin. And if he got a phone 457 00:31:59,395 --> 00:32:01,595 Speaker 1: call rather than a call to come into his office, 458 00:32:01,755 --> 00:32:05,155 Speaker 1: you know he was really scared. Griffin told me. Chris 459 00:32:05,195 --> 00:32:07,355 Speaker 1: lickt has been in to see me. Joe won't put 460 00:32:07,435 --> 00:32:10,995 Speaker 1: up with having Marcus Malitzus on his network anymore. Not 461 00:32:11,035 --> 00:32:14,315 Speaker 1: only that, but Lick says many of Joe's friends who 462 00:32:14,435 --> 00:32:18,315 Speaker 1: also appear in Dayside and Primetime won't come on if 463 00:32:18,355 --> 00:32:24,475 Speaker 1: Marcos Malitsus is permitted to continue here. Chris is insisting 464 00:32:25,035 --> 00:32:28,475 Speaker 1: that Marcos be banned from MSNBC immediately. Chris says he's 465 00:32:28,515 --> 00:32:30,755 Speaker 1: afraid that if we don't do that, Joe won't come 466 00:32:30,755 --> 00:32:34,515 Speaker 1: into work tomorrow. Upon hearing that, I laughed and I 467 00:32:34,555 --> 00:32:37,755 Speaker 1: congratulated Phil Griffin on the clear win win he'd just 468 00:32:37,795 --> 00:32:43,555 Speaker 1: been given. But Phil was very bad at enforcing MSNBC's rules, 469 00:32:43,595 --> 00:32:46,635 Speaker 1: but very good at creating new ones on the spot 470 00:32:46,835 --> 00:32:50,515 Speaker 1: to protect Joe Scarborough and Chris Licht and their friends. 471 00:32:51,555 --> 00:32:55,675 Speaker 1: I'm banning Malitzus for many further appearances on MSNBC, I said, Phil, 472 00:32:55,755 --> 00:32:59,075 Speaker 1: he's a contributor to my show. You are suspending my 473 00:32:59,235 --> 00:33:03,515 Speaker 1: contributor who has driven hundreds of thousands of viewers to 474 00:33:03,555 --> 00:33:06,435 Speaker 1: count Down at msn NBC, and I don't have any 475 00:33:06,475 --> 00:33:10,315 Speaker 1: say in it. You are owned by Joe Scarborough and 476 00:33:10,435 --> 00:33:12,835 Speaker 1: Chris lickt. What you now have to worry about is 477 00:33:12,835 --> 00:33:14,915 Speaker 1: whether I tell this story on the air tonight or 478 00:33:14,955 --> 00:33:18,635 Speaker 1: I just wait and tell it later. Phil now got 479 00:33:18,755 --> 00:33:22,115 Speaker 1: conciliatory because he was scared again and said it could 480 00:33:22,115 --> 00:33:27,315 Speaker 1: be just a suspension if I cooperated, so I called Marcos. 481 00:33:27,635 --> 00:33:30,235 Speaker 1: He said he enjoyed his contributions to Countdown. He also 482 00:33:30,235 --> 00:33:34,155 Speaker 1: did occasional appearances on the old Ed Schultz MSNBC show, 483 00:33:34,635 --> 00:33:36,955 Speaker 1: and he said if there were chants at resuming them, 484 00:33:36,955 --> 00:33:40,755 Speaker 1: he'd preferred to at least try that, so Marcus and 485 00:33:40,795 --> 00:33:43,675 Speaker 1: I went along with Griffin suspending Marcus Malitzus, and to 486 00:33:43,755 --> 00:33:48,115 Speaker 1: my knowledge, Marcus Malitzus has not been seen on MSNBC since. 487 00:33:50,315 --> 00:33:52,195 Speaker 1: I wish I had better notes on some of my 488 00:33:52,315 --> 00:33:55,635 Speaker 1: conversations from the two thousand and eight, nine, ten eleven 489 00:33:55,635 --> 00:34:00,195 Speaker 1: era about those conversations with the hosts and the producers 490 00:34:00,195 --> 00:34:02,555 Speaker 1: of the other shows like Schultz and Rachel Maddows Show, 491 00:34:02,595 --> 00:34:05,235 Speaker 1: and even Chris Matthews and Hardball. I must have heard 492 00:34:05,235 --> 00:34:08,235 Speaker 1: a variation of this statement a dozen times from these people. 493 00:34:08,275 --> 00:34:10,835 Speaker 1: Guess who was in Griffin's office explaining that such and 494 00:34:10,875 --> 00:34:12,915 Speaker 1: such as Joe's friend and Phil really needs to make 495 00:34:12,955 --> 00:34:16,395 Speaker 1: sure we lay off him. Chris licked It was usually 496 00:34:16,395 --> 00:34:19,515 Speaker 1: an expletive in the middle between Chris and Lickt. I 497 00:34:19,555 --> 00:34:22,115 Speaker 1: remember one of my producers at the MSNBC version of 498 00:34:22,155 --> 00:34:24,595 Speaker 1: Countdown telling me that one of the other producers told 499 00:34:24,675 --> 00:34:28,435 Speaker 1: him that Lickt had gone to NBC News President Steve 500 00:34:28,515 --> 00:34:32,675 Speaker 1: Cappus with an actual list of Republicans that Mattow and 501 00:34:32,755 --> 00:34:36,955 Speaker 1: Olberman needed to stop criticizing because they were Joe's here's 502 00:34:36,995 --> 00:34:42,195 Speaker 1: the word again friends, and we were hurting Morning Joe. 503 00:34:44,635 --> 00:34:47,795 Speaker 1: What's amazing is that, setting aside the issues of unrevealed 504 00:34:47,875 --> 00:34:51,195 Speaker 1: torrid love affairs, when CNN fired its nine PM host 505 00:34:51,315 --> 00:34:55,755 Speaker 1: Chris Cuomo, president Jeff Zooker, and senior vice president Alison Gollist, 506 00:34:56,035 --> 00:34:58,795 Speaker 1: they fired them in essence because they interfered with CNN 507 00:34:58,875 --> 00:35:02,675 Speaker 1: content and practices in order to do favors for people 508 00:35:02,715 --> 00:35:08,595 Speaker 1: who were their friend or, in Cuomo's case, they're relatives 509 00:35:09,395 --> 00:35:13,795 Speaker 1: at MSNBC. Interfering with MSNBC content and practices to do 510 00:35:13,875 --> 00:35:18,115 Speaker 1: favors for friends was seemingly the only reason Chris licked 511 00:35:18,155 --> 00:35:22,835 Speaker 1: had a job. So CNN got rid of left wingers 512 00:35:22,835 --> 00:35:26,555 Speaker 1: for a terrible violation of journalistic ethics, and then hired 513 00:35:26,595 --> 00:35:30,155 Speaker 1: as president a right wing henchman who had committed exactly 514 00:35:30,195 --> 00:35:34,555 Speaker 1: the same journalistic ethical problems and who, for his act, 515 00:35:35,155 --> 00:35:37,555 Speaker 1: the first one of his career at CNN, killed off 516 00:35:37,595 --> 00:35:42,235 Speaker 1: the only national television show that regularly held up Fox News, 517 00:35:42,315 --> 00:35:46,435 Speaker 1: Newsmax and all the rest to the world to show 518 00:35:46,475 --> 00:35:48,795 Speaker 1: that they were the threats to democracy that they are. 519 00:35:51,955 --> 00:36:09,035 Speaker 1: This is CNN. I've done all the damage I can 520 00:36:09,115 --> 00:36:10,955 Speaker 1: do here. Here are the credits. Most of the music 521 00:36:11,035 --> 00:36:14,235 Speaker 1: arranged produced and performed by Brian Ray and John Phillip Shaneale, 522 00:36:14,235 --> 00:36:17,955 Speaker 1: who are the countdown musical directors. All orchestration and keyboards 523 00:36:17,955 --> 00:36:21,435 Speaker 1: by John Phillip Shanelle, guitars, bass and drums by Brian Ray, 524 00:36:21,515 --> 00:36:25,035 Speaker 1: produced by Tko Brothers. Other Beethoven selections have been arranged 525 00:36:25,075 --> 00:36:28,435 Speaker 1: and performed by No Horns Allowed. The sports music is 526 00:36:28,475 --> 00:36:31,515 Speaker 1: the Olderman theme from ESPN two, which was written by 527 00:36:31,515 --> 00:36:35,755 Speaker 1: Mitch Warren Davis Curtisy BESPN Inc. Musical comments from Nancy Faust, 528 00:36:35,795 --> 00:36:38,675 Speaker 1: the best baseball stadium organist ever, and our announcer today 529 00:36:38,715 --> 00:36:41,675 Speaker 1: was my friend John Dean. Everything else is pretty much 530 00:36:41,675 --> 00:36:44,195 Speaker 1: my fault. So that's countdown for this, the eight hundred 531 00:36:44,195 --> 00:36:47,395 Speaker 1: and forty seventh day since Donald Trump's first attempted coup 532 00:36:47,395 --> 00:36:50,515 Speaker 1: against the democratically elected government of the United States. Don't 533 00:36:50,555 --> 00:36:54,315 Speaker 1: forget to keep arresting him while we still can. The 534 00:36:54,355 --> 00:36:57,715 Speaker 1: next scheduled countdown is tomorrow, So till then, I'm Keith Oulderman. 535 00:36:57,795 --> 00:37:11,875 Speaker 1: Good Morning, good afternoon, good night, and good luck. Countdown 536 00:37:11,915 --> 00:37:15,635 Speaker 1: with Keith Olderman is a production of iHeartRadio. For more 537 00:37:15,755 --> 00:37:20,675 Speaker 1: podcasts from iHeartRadio, visit the iHeartRadio app Apple Podcasts or 538 00:37:20,755 --> 00:37:22,555 Speaker 1: wherever you get your podcasts