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Speaker 1: nuclear option. But Neil Gorsage will be on the Supreme Court.

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Speaker 1: and end any idea that the Democrats can ever be fair.

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Speaker 1: And you're gonna say, well, Hannity, what's gonna happen when

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Speaker 1: they did it? Anyway, Harry Reid set this precedent and precedents,

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Speaker 1: why we even why is there even a ruse here

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Speaker 1: All Right, it appears some good news and that is

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Speaker 1: is is that those negotiations are gonna be ongoing. I

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Speaker 1: last time in leadership. Maybe when they get a final bill,

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Speaker 1: let the president unveil it. And my sources in Washington say,

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Speaker 1: the president's up to his eyeballs himself personally reviving these

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Speaker 1: it will be the biggest political scandal in American history,

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Speaker 1: barn none. And it means the Obama administration was using

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Speaker 1: talking just about to tell I'm talking about raw intelligence

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Speaker 1: actually corroborated a bombshell revelation from Evilyn Farcas, which he

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Speaker 1: according to Evelyn Farkas and now Fox News, the surveillance

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Speaker 1: that would mean that the Obama wire taps weren't just

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Speaker 1: And by the way they they're they're a little clever

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Speaker 1: But here's where it gets very, very interesting, is that

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Speaker 1: did I say, pay attention to these words surveillance, unmasking,

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Speaker 1: Eli Lake, who's gonna join us at the top of

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Speaker 1: Security advisor and BFF Susan Rice requested the identities of

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Speaker 1: US persons from the raw intel agents reports on dozens

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Speaker 1: and campaign. You know what this means. This never happens.

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Speaker 1: Let me explain when our intelligence agencies, for example, let's

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Speaker 1: say they're spying on somebody from Russia, China, Iran, wherever,

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Speaker 1: it doesn't matter, and and in the course of legitimate surveillance,

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Speaker 1: there is an American that is caught up in that surveill, Well,

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Speaker 1: a perfect example. Well, then what they're supposed to practice,

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Speaker 1: what's called minimization. Minimization is they're not supposed to expose

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Speaker 1: That intelligence rare intelligence never should have been leaked. Anyway,

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Speaker 1: We've now discovered that Susan Rice had numerous requests. It

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Speaker 1: was now discovered a National Security Council review of the

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Speaker 1: government's policy of unmasking the identities of these individuals in

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Speaker 1: the unmasking policy. The intelligence reports were summaries of these

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Speaker 1: monitored conversations primarily between foreign officials. That's why Devin Newness

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Speaker 1: greatly because we were unmasking the identities of Americans anyway.

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Speaker 1: Do you see how dangerous this is? Do you understand

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Speaker 1: the magnitude of this anyway? So sources are telling Fox

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Speaker 1: now the intelligence agencies slow rolled Devin Newness. They did

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Speaker 1: it on purpose because they knew what had really gone on.

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Speaker 1: In other words, he could have seen the logs at

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Speaker 1: other places besides the White House, but it had been

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Speaker 1: get the logs. So it was smart for him and

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Speaker 1: perfectly legal, as I told you last week, to do

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Speaker 1: what he did. And then the Democrats, they don't want

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Speaker 1: an incoming president of president elect and a presidential candidate

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Speaker 1: was being surveiled by the the current administration during a

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Speaker 1: major political campaign. They'd rather focus in on, well, why

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Speaker 1: did somebody, why did Devon Newness go to the White House?

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Speaker 1: Because the White House Council told them to go there,

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Speaker 1: That's why. And he was brought into it specifically. Now

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Speaker 1: keep in mind as the Obama administration left office. Then

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Speaker 1: it gets into twelve triple three, the executive order that

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Speaker 1: I've been talking about for weeks. What's Executive Order twelve

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Speaker 1: triple three. It was the amendment that the President signed

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Speaker 1: and apparently others in the illustration, including the intelligence people

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Speaker 1: like Brennan and Clapper and I'm sure Lauretta Lynch all

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Speaker 1: signed off on that allowed sixteen other U. S. Intelligence

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Speaker 1: agencies to have access to the raw data. Well, that

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Speaker 1: makes it harder to find out who leaked it. M hmm, Anna,

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Speaker 1: you're believing in conspiracy. One of the things that's fascinating

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Speaker 1: is Adam Schiff, who couldn't couldn't You couldn't get him

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Speaker 1: off a TV or radio. Now all of a sudden,

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Speaker 1: be found. And he actually said, I can't say whether

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Speaker 1: anything was masked or unmasked properly, because he knows damn

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Speaker 1: well that what Susan Rice apparently was requesting here was

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Speaker 1: not good. And Susan Rice now has either way, this

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Speaker 1: is an announcement. If anybody knows Susan Rice, we're not

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Speaker 1: saying she's guilty of anything, but we may want to

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Speaker 1: consult a really good attorney today, same lady that lied

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Speaker 1: about Benghazi to us repeatedly. You've got the computer logs

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Speaker 1: of President Obama's team, what they left behind in the

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Speaker 1: White House. Well, it indicates that Susan Rice access numerous

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Speaker 1: intelligence reports during the last seven months of Obama while

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Speaker 1: involving Trump and associates. And Sarah Carter has a similar

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Speaker 1: article out today over at Circuit News, and intelligence sources

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Speaker 1: say the logs discovered by the n s A Council

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Speaker 1: which included the unmasking of American identities, appeared to begin

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Speaker 1: around July, the time that Trump secured the GOP nomination,

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Speaker 1: they basically have been surveiling Trump for since last July.

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Speaker 1: And the intelligence reports included intercepts of Americans talking to foreigners.

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Speaker 1: That makes it legal, but they're not the target they're

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Speaker 1: supposed to be protect. Did their identities protected? The process

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Speaker 1: of minimization should have kicked in nobody's name should have

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Speaker 1: even if they knew it was Trump or anybody associated

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Speaker 1: with the Russian election interference. That then explains farcas. This

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Speaker 1: also explains the comments of Devin Newness. This is now

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Speaker 1: And ordinarily references to Americans are adapted or minimized by

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Speaker 1: But in these cases names were unmasked at the request

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Speaker 1: protect their identities, and the exact national security justification for

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Speaker 1: Rice accessing and unmasking these reports isn't clear. The only

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Speaker 1: obvious answers she was spying and wanted to spy on

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Speaker 1: How how the information was disseminated beyond Rice. That's also

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Speaker 1: looking into who knew what, when and where and congressional oversight,

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Speaker 1: I guarantee you Rice is gonna clam up now. One

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Speaker 1: transitions told Circa that u S intelligence reporting on foreign

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Speaker 1: leaders perceptions of Trump spiked after his election win in November,

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Speaker 1: creating a trove of information that could be accessed by

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Speaker 1: the outgoing White House. There's always intelligence reporting on an

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Speaker 1: spikes in the amount of intelligence being gathered. Devin Nunius

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Speaker 1: You get what I'm saying here? Do you understand the

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Speaker 1: magnitude the proportion? If you think Watergate break in was

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Speaker 1: if they were surveilling a candidate, an opposition party candidate,

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Speaker 1: Because that's what it looks like happened for one. Shawn

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Speaker 1: House lawyers last month learned from the National Security Advisor

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Speaker 1: Susan Rice had requested the identities of US persons, in

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Speaker 1: other words, unmasking and raw intelligence reports on dozens of

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Speaker 1: What was she doing this on her own or at

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Speaker 1: Rice's request was discovered by the National Security Council review

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Speaker 1: of the government's policy on unmasking. What is unmasking? What

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Speaker 1: are the three things I keep telling you to pay

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Speaker 1: attention to? Surveillance? Yes, that's been converned, firmed of candidate Trump,

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Speaker 1: of President elect Trump up until when he became president November, December,

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Speaker 1: after that is all, right, intelligence leaks. What was I

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Speaker 1: saying last week? Pay attention to four words, right, surveillance, unmasking,

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Speaker 1: intelligence leaking. So those are the four words. Well, now

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Speaker 1: it is all coming together, and there's there's so much

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Speaker 1: Adam Shift was literally the most dangerous place in America

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Speaker 1: up until this weekend was between Adam Schiff and a

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Speaker 1: television camera because he was racing every camera. Well, now

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Speaker 1: his remarks seemed to support Devin Nounez and Trump's claims,

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Speaker 1: and he's going dark. And add to that the actor

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Speaker 1: was Evelyn farcass is big reveal as it relates to

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Speaker 1: oh yeah, unmasking and intelligence leaking and and trying to

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Speaker 1: save it. It's all now beginning to come together. And

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Speaker 1: Chiff says that that Trump wants to focus on tweets,

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Speaker 1: not on the Russia prob but he goes silence after silent,

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Speaker 1: after he finally reviewed the new nest documents. All right,

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Speaker 1: so let's go to Susan Rice when she was on

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Speaker 1: PBS with with Judy Woodruff and listen to what she

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Speaker 1: I'm not aware of any order. Given a spread intelligence

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Speaker 1: amongst government officials about Russia that appears now to be

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Speaker 1: a lie. Pay close attention. I know nothing about this.

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Speaker 1: I was surprised to see reports from Chairman Unis on

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Speaker 1: that count today. I mean, let's back up and recall

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Speaker 1: where we have been. The President of the United States

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Speaker 1: accused his predecessor, President Obama, are tapping Trump Tower during

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Speaker 1: the campaign. Nothing of the sort occurred, and we've heard

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Speaker 1: that confirmed by the Director of the FBI, who also

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Speaker 1: pointed out that no president, no White House can order

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Speaker 1: from the Justice Department with the approval of a FISA court.

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Speaker 1: So today I really don't know to what Chairman Nunez

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Speaker 1: to was a legal, lawful UH surveillance and that it

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Speaker 1: it's important for people to understand what incidental means. That

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Speaker 1: means that the target was a either a foreign entity

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Speaker 1: In the last few weeks, The New York Times has

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Speaker 1: reported then, in the final days of the Obama a ministration,

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Speaker 1: campaign officials. So that story has now been out there

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Speaker 1: for several weeks. Could there be a connection here, I'm

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Speaker 1: not aware of any connection. I had read the New

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Speaker 1: responsible national security. I found that report a bit perplexing.

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Speaker 1: I was not aware of any orders given to disseminate

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Speaker 1: that kind of information was having, So I have no

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Speaker 1: that uh In, the president did request back in December,

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Speaker 1: it had on what it transpired during the campaign with

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Speaker 1: respect to the Russians involving themselves uh In the presidential campaign,

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Speaker 1: and that report was provided to the American people and

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Speaker 1: unclassified for him into Congress. Uh In classified for him

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Speaker 1: in early January. Did Susan Rice just lie there joining us? Now?

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Speaker 1: Eli Lake? He had a blockbuster report on Bloomberg Today

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Speaker 1: about how White House lawyers last month learned that she,

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Speaker 1: Susan Rice, had requested the identities of US persons and

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Speaker 1: raw intelligence reports. That is called unmasking. Eli, welcome back

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Speaker 1: to the program. Thanks so much for having me. All right,

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Speaker 1: why don't you explain what you learned and to the

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Speaker 1: extent that this went on. First of all, unmasking certainly

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Speaker 1: confirmed surveillance, does it not? Well, what unmasking does is

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Speaker 1: it means that someone who's political, in this case, it's

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Speaker 1: Susan Rice who is, you know, the National Security Advisor.

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Speaker 1: She has policy reasons for seeing the most you know,

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Speaker 1: sensitive intelligence, but she's also a political appointee and somebody

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Speaker 1: who works directly for Barack Obama. And the question is

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Speaker 1: that it was, as it was described to me, the

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Speaker 1: kinds of reports that she would get where she would

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Speaker 1: see a name Black that we're clearly things having to

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Speaker 1: do with either conversations between foreign officials about the Trump

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Speaker 1: transition or conversations with a Trump transition official and someone

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Speaker 1: who was under surveillance a foreign target. And then she

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Speaker 1: would say, I'd like to see who that U S

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Speaker 1: person is in order to get more information on things

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Speaker 1: that at least we now know from from Devin Nude

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Speaker 1: as is what he said two weeks ago, that had

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Speaker 1: nothing to do with Russia. So so this is this

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Speaker 1: is very important here. So in the course of the

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Speaker 1: n S A doing their job, which is eavesdropping, and this,

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Speaker 1: let's say, in this case on Russia, or it could

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Speaker 1: be China or ran or any of our adversaries, friend

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Speaker 1: or foe, it doesn't matter actually, but they're doing their

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Speaker 1: job now. But to surveil an American would require a

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Speaker 1: court order, wouldn't it wouldn't it require some type of warrant.

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Speaker 1: That's right. If you were going to put a five

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Speaker 1: A wire cap on the communications of an American citizen,

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Speaker 1: you need a court order in a secret court known

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Speaker 1: as the Fisi Court. But there is also lots of

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Speaker 1: Americans who will be spoken about or speaking with someone

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Speaker 1: who's already being targeted for legal reasons, usually a foreign

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Speaker 1: entity or something like that. And when that person is

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Speaker 1: being scooped up, or you've been scooped up, if you've

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Speaker 1: had any conversations with you know, foreign diplomats or foreign

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Speaker 1: ministers or things like that, chances are there will be

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Speaker 1: you know, at some point in the raw data, your

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Speaker 1: name will be there and what you said. The reason

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Speaker 1: the system that we have so that we make sure

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Speaker 1: that this sort of thing is not abused is that

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Speaker 1: that name needs to be minimized. It needs to be

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Speaker 1: blacked out. You can't know who I am, you can't

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Speaker 1: know the identifying characteristics. If you're just trying to focus

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Speaker 1: on the one person who you are legally, he's dropping.

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Speaker 1: Let me let me let me help my audience out here,

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Speaker 1: because a lot of people don't understand the terms that

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Speaker 1: you're using here So in the course of serve veiling,

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Speaker 1: let's say it's a Russian ambassador a Chinese ambassador, which

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Speaker 1: we want them to do, right. If that if that

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Speaker 1: Chinese ambassador, Russian and an ambassadors talking to an American,

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Speaker 1: then there is a process that is known as minimization.

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Speaker 1: In other words, that they will they might be aware

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Speaker 1: of who the purpose person is, and but they don't

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Speaker 1: usually when they write up reports. To correct me if

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Speaker 1: I'm wrong, standard operating procedure is they would not unveil

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Speaker 1: or unmask the name of the American when they write

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Speaker 1: that report up. Is that correct? That's right? And here's

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Speaker 1: an important distinction that the people who would know the

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Speaker 1: US person are in the bowels of the National Security

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Speaker 1: Agency or somewhere in the intelligent community. Either are not

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Speaker 1: political appointees, They're not people who would use that information

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Speaker 1: for some sort of political ends. They're just they're collecting

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Speaker 1: this stuff and they make sure that it's minimized and

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Speaker 1: then it goes out to government officials. And that's the

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Speaker 1: way the process is opposed to work. The story here

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Speaker 1: is that in a view of the logs of the

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Speaker 1: National Security Council, it was discovered by one of the

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Speaker 1: new Trump staffers who was in charge of intelligence, that

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Speaker 1: there had been a number of the requests to find

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Speaker 1: out who the US persons were that were blacked out

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Speaker 1: in trummaries of monitored communications sort of raw intelligence reports

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Speaker 1: that would describe a conversation between uh someone in the

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Speaker 1: Trump transition and again a foreign official or to foreign

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Speaker 1: diplomats discussing a meeting they may have had with the

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Speaker 1: Trump transition official, things of that nature. And this was

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Speaker 1: a pattern and anomaly where you saw again against Susan

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Speaker 1: Wright's requesting to find out who that U s person was,

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Speaker 1: When this staffer of the National Security Council named des

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Speaker 1: Ripell and Watnick discovered that, he then takes that information

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Speaker 1: to the Office of General Council, the lawyer of the President,

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Speaker 1: and says, I want you to do something with this.

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Speaker 1: The Office General Council says, I want you to stop

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Speaker 1: the review that you're doing there on this poll, see

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Speaker 1: if I'm mapping, And then the Office General Council then

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Speaker 1: proceeds to look into it. And what they've now done

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Speaker 1: is to share this with the House Intelligence Committee. We

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Speaker 1: know that Adam Schiff and Devin Unis have of course

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Speaker 1: seen this stuff and uh, they've offered to share this

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Speaker 1: with the Senate Intelligence Committee to have Congress properly investigated.

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Speaker 1: So doesn't it sound to you highly inappropriate and that

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Speaker 1: this now has become a political sitting administration politicizing raw

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Speaker 1: intelligence and in the process requesting the unmasking in particularly

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Speaker 1: focusing on an opposition party either running or a transition

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Speaker 1: team that is doing their work in the lead up. Now,

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Speaker 1: if if the four words that I keep saying to

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Speaker 1: my audience matter, well, number one, this would confirm that

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Speaker 1: surveillance of the Trump transition team at least took place,

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Speaker 1: and that that that unmasking happened because Susan Rice was

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Speaker 1: requesting it. And then we have to ask the question, well,

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Speaker 1: how did Lieutenant General Michael Flynn, you know, his that

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Speaker 1: raw intelligence in his case was leaked and it ended

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Speaker 1: up with him losing his job. Over it all that

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Speaker 1: I want to I would just say a couple of caveats.

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Speaker 1: The real scandal here might be that everything that Susan

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Speaker 1: Rice did was legal, and that we need to reform

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Speaker 1: the law to make sure this doesn't happen going forward us.

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Speaker 1: But I gotta, I gotta take a break. But you

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Speaker 1: is a crime. Absolutely, that is a felony under the

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Speaker 1: Espionage Act. Correct, Yeah, I mean I think there's specific

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Speaker 1: wire tap information laws. But you're right, all right, stay

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Speaker 1: right there. Eli Lake is with us with the Bloomberg

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Speaker 1: Quick break. We'll continue more with Eli Lake, Bloomberg View columnist,

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Speaker 1: lot on this tonight on Hannity ten Eastern. Now that

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Speaker 1: Uncle Joe is left ability, maybe we can get back

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Speaker 1: to bringing jobs old. That's jus j o. This is

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Speaker 1: the Sean Hannity Show. And as we continue, Eli Lake

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Speaker 1: is with us with Bloomberg News, and we're discussing, of course,

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Speaker 1: the surveillance of then Candidate Trump and then of course

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Speaker 1: President elect Trump and his transition team, and also the

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Speaker 1: unmasking now that we've discovered and Susan Rice's request to

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Speaker 1: unmask people, in other words, the raw intelligence and which

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Speaker 1: is very it's not within standard operating procedure by any measure,

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Speaker 1: and then it gets taken to the next level, for

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Speaker 1: example with General Flynn. All right, when Susan Rice said

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Speaker 1: she didn't know about wire tapping occurring, and when she

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Speaker 1: said she wasn't aware of any order given to spread intelligence. Um,

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Speaker 1: was she telling the truth in that interview with Judy

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Speaker 1: Woodrof Well, I think she has a little bit of

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Speaker 1: wiggle room there because she was talking. I mean, I

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Speaker 1: think we may have been responding to the tweets from

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Speaker 1: Donald Trump, which is which is really literally not correcting

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Speaker 1: that there wasn't a wire tap of a fisit sort

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Speaker 1: on Trump Tower? And then she claimed not to know

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Speaker 1: what Nudace was talking about, which I think, you know,

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Speaker 1: she should revise and extend her remarks because it appears

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Speaker 1: now that you know, this was getting at this unmasking issue.

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Speaker 1: Now in fairness, when this story originally broke, I think

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Speaker 1: because we're dealing with very classified information, some of the

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Speaker 1: most tightly guarded stuff, that Noon has had to sort

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Speaker 1: of talk around some of these issues. So he spoke

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Speaker 1: of intelligence reports and incidental collection, you know, did not

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Speaker 1: connect it originally to the issue of unmasking. So that

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Speaker 1: may give her some technical wiggle room, but I think

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Speaker 1: that she will have more, you know, questions to answer

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Speaker 1: down the road. All right, So then the next question is,

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Speaker 1: let me play for you Adam Schiff and what he said,

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Speaker 1: and he's gone uncharacteristically quiet since all of this. All right,

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Speaker 1: but let's listen to what he had to say. There's

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Speaker 1: no definitive proof of collusion between the Trump camp and Russia.

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Speaker 1: Let's play it. Can you say definitively that there was

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Speaker 1: collusion there were people affiliated with the Trump campaign who

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Speaker 1: were working with Russians to time the release of damaging

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Speaker 1: information about Hillary Clinton that had been that had been hacked,

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Speaker 1: either UM, John Fodesta or the d n C. I

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Speaker 1: don't think we can say anything definitively at this point.

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Speaker 1: We are still at the very early stage of the investigation.

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Speaker 1: The only thing I can say is that it would

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Speaker 1: be irresponsible for us not to get to the bottom

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Speaker 1: of this. We really need to do. We really need

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Speaker 1: to find out exactly what the Russians did, because one

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Speaker 1: of the most important conclusions that the intelligence community reached

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Speaker 1: is that they are going to do this again to

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Speaker 1: the United States. They're doing it already in Europe. So

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Speaker 1: we can say, you know, conclusively, this is something that

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Speaker 1: needs to be thoroughly investigated. But but it's way premature

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Speaker 1: to be reaching conclusions. All right. He seems to also

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Speaker 1: support Nunez and and and Trump claims that surveillance took

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Speaker 1: place based on what he saw when he finally went

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Speaker 1: over and looked at the information. Well, he's he's keeping

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Speaker 1: fairly tight lit about it. And I think again, I

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Speaker 1: would just stress here that you know, when you're dealing

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Speaker 1: with classified information like that, it does get uh, it

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Speaker 1: becomes difficult to talk in too much detail about what's

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Speaker 1: going on, which is one of the reasons why, um,

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Speaker 1: you know, I'm my sources are on background and not

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Speaker 1: on the record. But and he is interesting because if

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Speaker 1: you remember, Representative Shift was talking about more than circumstantial evidence,

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Speaker 1: uh not even I think a week ago regarding collusion,

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Speaker 1: and now he's saying, at this point, we're still investigating it.

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Speaker 1: And I think that that is the responsible position at

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Speaker 1: this point, in that there hasn't been any kind of

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Speaker 1: smoking gun. And you know, the other thing I would do,

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Speaker 1: by the way, James Clapper said it, Admiral Rodgers said it,

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Speaker 1: and James Comey said it. But what call me wouldn't

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Speaker 1: admit is whether or not there's an investigation into the

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Speaker 1: into the leaking of intelligence information which we know happened,

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Speaker 1: which we know as a felony. Well, I mean, James

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Speaker 1: Comey has created so many problems for himself because if

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Speaker 1: he can give details about an ongoing counter intelligence investigation

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Speaker 1: or at least acknowledge that, and why wouldn't he talk

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Speaker 1: about other kinds of investigations. I know the Tree Gaudy

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Speaker 1: and other members of the video on the public side

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Speaker 1: are very concerned about that. I'm very concerned, all right,

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Speaker 1: Eli Great War By the way, Eli Lake, He's gonna

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Speaker 1: be on Hannity tonight with Sarah Carter and we're gonna

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Speaker 1: do a deep dive into this because it's getting more

854
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Speaker 1: interesting by the day, and it seems the media was

855
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Speaker 1: wrong on every single solitary point. Everyone one, Sean, you

856
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Speaker 1: want to be a part of the program quick break

857
00:51:15,800 --> 00:51:49,319
Speaker 1: right back. We'll continue holding them accountable. Sean gets the

858
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Speaker 1: answers no one else does. America deserves and know the

859
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Speaker 1: truth about Congress to the top of the hour, toll

860
00:51:59,600 --> 00:52:02,319
Speaker 1: free tell phone numbers eight. Seawn, if you want to

861
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Speaker 1: be a part of the program, Big Week. As it

862
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Speaker 1: relates to the President, he's gonna be meeting with what

863
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Speaker 1: the head of China, and he met today earlier with

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Speaker 1: President Abdel Fatah Alcisi. Remember he's the one guy in

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Speaker 1: Egypt that really stood up to radical Islam and what

866
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Speaker 1: became a historic speech on on his part, and frankly

867
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Speaker 1: a very courageous one. And also we now have reports

868
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Speaker 1: that a defector from North Korea is saying that Kim

869
00:52:29,080 --> 00:52:32,480
Speaker 1: Jong un would in fact use nuclear weapons, and that

870
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Speaker 1: issue begins to heat up as we speak. Anyway, here's

871
00:52:35,320 --> 00:52:39,280
Speaker 1: the President talking to President Alcisi and the Egyptian people.

872
00:52:39,320 --> 00:52:41,520
Speaker 1: Here's what he said at the White House earlier today.

873
00:52:41,960 --> 00:52:46,840
Speaker 1: It's great to be with the President of Egypt. And

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00:52:46,920 --> 00:52:50,600
Speaker 1: I will tell you President l c c has been

875
00:52:50,880 --> 00:52:53,360
Speaker 1: somebody that's been very close to me from the first

876
00:52:53,400 --> 00:52:56,719
Speaker 1: time I met him. Uh I met during the campaign,

877
00:52:57,800 --> 00:52:59,840
Speaker 1: and at that point there were two of us and

878
00:53:00,040 --> 00:53:02,920
Speaker 1: we both met and hopefully you'll like to be a

879
00:53:02,920 --> 00:53:06,800
Speaker 1: lot more. But but it was a very long It

880
00:53:06,920 --> 00:53:08,759
Speaker 1: was supposed to be just a quick brief meeting, and

881
00:53:08,800 --> 00:53:11,600
Speaker 1: we were with each other for a long period of time.

882
00:53:12,640 --> 00:53:14,680
Speaker 1: We agree on so many things. I just want to

883
00:53:14,719 --> 00:53:17,920
Speaker 1: let everybody know in case there was any doubt that

884
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Speaker 1: we are very much behind President l CCI. He has

885
00:53:20,760 --> 00:53:24,520
Speaker 1: done a fantastic job in a very difficult situation. We

886
00:53:24,600 --> 00:53:28,440
Speaker 1: are very much behind Egypt and the people of Egypt

887
00:53:29,080 --> 00:53:32,759
Speaker 1: and the United States has believed me back in and

888
00:53:32,760 --> 00:53:37,319
Speaker 1: we have strong backing. We are very much and as

889
00:53:37,360 --> 00:53:40,400
Speaker 1: you and I will do soon talking, we're building up

890
00:53:40,400 --> 00:53:43,760
Speaker 1: our military to a level that will be the highest,

891
00:53:44,000 --> 00:53:48,720
Speaker 1: probably the highest that we've ever had. Plane orders, ship orders,

892
00:53:49,360 --> 00:53:55,360
Speaker 1: aircraft carrier orders. We are rejuvenating our military to the

893
00:53:55,480 --> 00:54:00,600
Speaker 1: highest level I think in these times, probably more than

894
00:54:00,600 --> 00:54:05,359
Speaker 1: ever before, or certainly almost more than ever before. That's

895
00:54:05,360 --> 00:54:08,200
Speaker 1: what we need. And I just want to say to you,

896
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Speaker 1: just the President, that you have a great friend and

897
00:54:10,840 --> 00:54:14,040
Speaker 1: ally in the United States and in me alright. That

898
00:54:14,120 --> 00:54:17,120
Speaker 1: was the president with the President of Egypt, Delcci. One

899
00:54:17,120 --> 00:54:19,960
Speaker 1: of the things that I guess in the aftermath of

900
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Speaker 1: Obama's reckless foreign policy and stupid Iranian deal, I guess

901
00:54:24,520 --> 00:54:27,719
Speaker 1: one of the benefits that emerged from that is the

902
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Speaker 1: creation of a new alliance that has emerged between the

903
00:54:30,960 --> 00:54:35,279
Speaker 1: Saudias and Israel, between Israel and Egypt, between Israel and

904
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Speaker 1: Jordans and the Arab Emirates. Can he get to this

905
00:54:38,120 --> 00:54:41,160
Speaker 1: and all the other issues as it relates to uh this,

906
00:54:41,320 --> 00:54:43,400
Speaker 1: Colonel Oliver North is with us knows a thing or

907
00:54:43,400 --> 00:54:45,600
Speaker 1: two about the Middle East, as he once went there

908
00:54:45,600 --> 00:54:48,160
Speaker 1: with a suicide pill in his pocket in case you

909
00:54:48,160 --> 00:54:50,040
Speaker 1: ever had to take it. Thank god you didn't. How

910
00:54:50,040 --> 00:54:53,880
Speaker 1: are you, sir? And alright, we've got a lot of

911
00:54:53,880 --> 00:54:55,880
Speaker 1: different issues on the table here. Let me start with this.

912
00:54:55,960 --> 00:54:58,800
Speaker 1: Then we'll get to the attack in Saint Petersburg and Russia.

913
00:54:59,040 --> 00:55:02,000
Speaker 1: And but first I look at alsis is is almost

914
00:55:02,000 --> 00:55:04,239
Speaker 1: like a modern day Anwar Sadat. If you ever read

915
00:55:04,360 --> 00:55:09,160
Speaker 1: Anwar Sadat's autobiography, it's it's amazing the guts and the

916
00:55:09,239 --> 00:55:11,759
Speaker 1: courage that he showed in an effort for peace and

917
00:55:11,840 --> 00:55:16,000
Speaker 1: eventually ended. He lost his life over that, that alliance

918
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Speaker 1: that he created with Israel, but he lost it to

919
00:55:18,120 --> 00:55:20,920
Speaker 1: the Muslim brotherhood. That's not that's correct. I can't forget

920
00:55:20,960 --> 00:55:23,439
Speaker 1: that too. Um L Cisi seems to be a guy

921
00:55:23,520 --> 00:55:26,239
Speaker 1: that understands the dangers of radical Islam and is not

922
00:55:26,320 --> 00:55:29,000
Speaker 1: afraid to say it. He does. In fact, he's probably

923
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Speaker 1: offered the best secular challenge to radical Islam of any

924
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Speaker 1: Arab leader. I mean, what he said about it is

925
00:55:36,400 --> 00:55:39,399
Speaker 1: almost a year ago, and he's refined it since it's

926
00:55:39,440 --> 00:55:42,960
Speaker 1: a challenge to the Imams, the Molas, the Ayatolas. No

927
00:55:43,000 --> 00:55:46,600
Speaker 1: matter what they are, the radical Islam no longer has

928
00:55:46,600 --> 00:55:49,320
Speaker 1: a place on the planet Earth and his his charges

929
00:55:49,800 --> 00:55:53,239
Speaker 1: those we sometimes I think mistakenly call it moderates, but

930
00:55:53,520 --> 00:55:56,040
Speaker 1: the challenges for them to stand up and and take

931
00:55:56,160 --> 00:55:59,480
Speaker 1: charge of Islam so that it's not perceived I think

932
00:55:59,560 --> 00:56:03,719
Speaker 1: rightly it is as a terrorist entity. Well, I think that, yeah,

933
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Speaker 1: I think what's happening now, don't you think Jordan's, the Emirates, Egypt,

934
00:56:07,920 --> 00:56:12,720
Speaker 1: Saudi Arabia and Israel all recognized the real, clear present

935
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Speaker 1: danger of Iranian hegemony in the region and absolutely absolutely,

936
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Speaker 1: and of course those are Sunni Islamic states, and they

937
00:56:20,280 --> 00:56:23,000
Speaker 1: realized that what you're what, what we're on the cusp of,

938
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Speaker 1: is an enormous civil war that goes on between Shiites

939
00:56:27,160 --> 00:56:30,680
Speaker 1: dominated by Iran and the Sunnies, which quite frankly started

940
00:56:30,719 --> 00:56:34,000
Speaker 1: their own terrorist organizations back in the eighties after they

941
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Speaker 1: watched the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps created by holmani usurp Islam.

942
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Speaker 1: And that's what really happened if you you consider what

943
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Speaker 1: was going on prior to nine. When the Homany comes

944
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Speaker 1: back from Paris, goes to comb and eventually overthrows the Shah,

945
00:56:49,440 --> 00:56:53,439
Speaker 1: the creation of the Islamic People often get it wrong.

946
00:56:53,480 --> 00:56:55,840
Speaker 1: They call it the Iranian Revolutionary Guard Corps. It's not.

947
00:56:55,920 --> 00:56:58,680
Speaker 1: It was the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps. And that's how

948
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Speaker 1: Shi i Islam was going to take over and dominate

949
00:57:02,400 --> 00:57:05,520
Speaker 1: all of Islam. One. In response to that, you had

950
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Speaker 1: the sellafuss and you had the wahabbies saying, hey, wait

951
00:57:08,840 --> 00:57:10,840
Speaker 1: a second, we can do even more because there's a

952
00:57:10,840 --> 00:57:13,200
Speaker 1: lot more of us. Of course, that's where al Qaeda

953
00:57:13,280 --> 00:57:15,640
Speaker 1: comes from, That's where Isis comes from. And now you've

954
00:57:15,640 --> 00:57:19,280
Speaker 1: got the potential for a major cataclysmic event. The worst

955
00:57:19,320 --> 00:57:21,640
Speaker 1: part of it, Sean is you now have read on

956
00:57:21,680 --> 00:57:24,120
Speaker 1: the cusp of nuclear weapons in the hands of the

957
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Speaker 1: Ayatolas in Tehran, and unfortunately they have a very apocalyptic

958
00:57:28,800 --> 00:57:32,120
Speaker 1: perspective on what's going to happen. They see mag and

959
00:57:32,160 --> 00:57:35,240
Speaker 1: magog armageddon. For those of us in the Judaeo Christian

960
00:57:35,640 --> 00:57:38,360
Speaker 1: traditional they have this belief in the in the Madia

961
00:57:38,480 --> 00:57:41,480
Speaker 1: is gonna, you know, comment that's gonna be the ultimate

962
00:57:42,360 --> 00:57:46,840
Speaker 1: Islamic Yes, but that that lends itself to those who

963
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Speaker 1: have those kinds of weapons in their hands to precipitating

964
00:57:50,280 --> 00:57:53,160
Speaker 1: the kind of event that will bring about that cataclysmic end.

965
00:57:53,600 --> 00:57:58,080
Speaker 1: And unfortunately, uh, the Iranians. When we first started talking

966
00:57:58,080 --> 00:58:01,160
Speaker 1: about this conversation and Lenn it was on phone with

967
00:58:01,200 --> 00:58:04,240
Speaker 1: me and sending me emails back and forth, it was Russia,

968
00:58:04,440 --> 00:58:08,640
Speaker 1: North Korea and Iran. Almost known is paying any attention

969
00:58:08,720 --> 00:58:11,640
Speaker 1: to the secret collusion between the North Koreans and the

970
00:58:11,720 --> 00:58:15,520
Speaker 1: Iranians on two things, number one nuclear weapons and number

971
00:58:15,520 --> 00:58:20,640
Speaker 1: two intercontinental ballistic missiles. Both those countries are getting away

972
00:58:20,680 --> 00:58:23,360
Speaker 1: with it because no one's paying attention to what the

973
00:58:23,400 --> 00:58:27,760
Speaker 1: collusion that's going on. And unfortunately, there are Iranian scientists

974
00:58:27,800 --> 00:58:30,080
Speaker 1: in North Korea every time they do a nuclear test

975
00:58:30,200 --> 00:58:32,120
Speaker 1: or an I C B M test, And the same

976
00:58:32,200 --> 00:58:34,960
Speaker 1: is true in reverse, because the North Koreans send their

977
00:58:35,000 --> 00:58:38,280
Speaker 1: people to watch the Iranians and they exchange information, they

978
00:58:38,280 --> 00:58:41,080
Speaker 1: give each other advice, and it would not be at

979
00:58:41,120 --> 00:58:43,720
Speaker 1: all unexpected. I don't think it should be unexpected that

980
00:58:43,800 --> 00:58:48,320
Speaker 1: you have a an announcement from both sides, one in

981
00:58:48,360 --> 00:58:51,440
Speaker 1: the Pacific with North Korea and one in in the

982
00:58:52,480 --> 00:58:54,760
Speaker 1: in the Middle East from Iran that they now have

983
00:58:54,960 --> 00:58:58,320
Speaker 1: nuclear weapons and and dare the world to deal with

984
00:58:58,360 --> 00:59:00,280
Speaker 1: either one of them that way? So you're saying there's

985
00:59:00,320 --> 00:59:03,840
Speaker 1: an unholy alliance and their trading information. And on top

986
00:59:03,840 --> 00:59:07,040
Speaker 1: of that that there is a good possibility the Iranians,

987
00:59:07,080 --> 00:59:09,840
Speaker 1: because of Obama's bad deal, would get nuclear weapons with

988
00:59:09,880 --> 00:59:12,480
Speaker 1: the help of the North Koreans. I don't think that's

989
00:59:12,520 --> 00:59:16,240
Speaker 1: even a possibility. I think it's an absolute fact. And unfortunately,

990
00:59:16,240 --> 00:59:18,680
Speaker 1: we don't have an intelligence service that's able to put

991
00:59:18,720 --> 00:59:20,800
Speaker 1: all that together. But if you all you have to

992
00:59:20,840 --> 00:59:22,360
Speaker 1: do is look at the open source. You have to

993
00:59:22,360 --> 00:59:24,880
Speaker 1: look at the look at the photographs that come out

994
00:59:24,920 --> 00:59:28,200
Speaker 1: of all these tests in these laboratories. There's Iranians there,

995
00:59:28,200 --> 00:59:30,400
Speaker 1: there's North Koreans there. What are they doing. They're working

996
00:59:30,400 --> 00:59:33,960
Speaker 1: together to come up with a miniaturized nuclear device that

997
00:59:34,000 --> 00:59:36,040
Speaker 1: can be put on the tip of a missile, and

998
00:59:36,320 --> 00:59:38,920
Speaker 1: missile number one goes into Tel Aviv, not Jerusalem, and

999
00:59:38,960 --> 00:59:42,280
Speaker 1: the missile number two hits a US based somewhere. It's

1000
00:59:42,280 --> 00:59:45,280
Speaker 1: pretty scary scenario, but it's well I'm trying, I'm trying

1001
00:59:45,320 --> 00:59:48,480
Speaker 1: to be upbeat, but somebody has to speak reality here.

1002
00:59:48,520 --> 00:59:52,240
Speaker 1: And unfortunately, what was done to our intelligence services in

1003
00:59:52,240 --> 00:59:55,280
Speaker 1: the last eight years before Mr Trump got to Washington

1004
00:59:55,800 --> 00:59:59,000
Speaker 1: was to emasculate the in collection of the human intelligence

1005
00:59:59,040 --> 01:00:01,480
Speaker 1: that would give us that stuff, that in politicizing it,

1006
01:00:01,480 --> 01:00:04,080
Speaker 1: which we now see that happened to General Flynn. And

1007
01:00:04,200 --> 01:00:07,800
Speaker 1: these revelations today about Susan Rice asking for the unmasking

1008
01:00:08,520 --> 01:00:12,560
Speaker 1: of raw intelligence, would you know and I know never happens. Well,

1009
01:00:12,600 --> 01:00:16,320
Speaker 1: it should never happen by treaty. By the way, the

1010
01:00:16,680 --> 01:00:20,920
Speaker 1: world has been divided up into five sectors. By treaty.

1011
01:00:21,040 --> 01:00:24,240
Speaker 1: The United States has certain places where it collects intelligence

1012
01:00:24,280 --> 01:00:26,640
Speaker 1: and we share it with the others. And those others

1013
01:00:26,680 --> 01:00:30,400
Speaker 1: are Great Britain, Australia, New Zealand, and one other one.

1014
01:00:30,840 --> 01:00:34,200
Speaker 1: And and in those cases what they do is they

1015
01:00:34,200 --> 01:00:36,200
Speaker 1: collect in their particular areas and they share it. And

1016
01:00:36,280 --> 01:00:38,400
Speaker 1: part of the treaty is you're not going to reveal

1017
01:00:39,080 --> 01:00:42,320
Speaker 1: things that are super sensitive. There are code words for

1018
01:00:42,320 --> 01:00:44,800
Speaker 1: this stuff, Sean, I can't even say on the radio

1019
01:00:45,080 --> 01:00:49,320
Speaker 1: because I signed a nondisclosure agreement that the code words

1020
01:00:49,360 --> 01:00:52,960
Speaker 1: pertained to the collector and the dissemination of it. And

1021
01:00:53,000 --> 01:00:56,320
Speaker 1: by a treaty, we've agreed not to print copies of

1022
01:00:56,360 --> 01:00:58,480
Speaker 1: this stuff and sent it around the government. Before the

1023
01:00:58,520 --> 01:01:03,280
Speaker 1: Obama administration town they broadened the distribution of that kind

1024
01:01:03,320 --> 01:01:07,160
Speaker 1: of intelligence what's called raw intelligence all over the government.

1025
01:01:07,480 --> 01:01:09,880
Speaker 1: And apparently, if this thing is right about Susan Rice,

1026
01:01:10,160 --> 01:01:15,440
Speaker 1: Obama's National security advisor, she exceeded her bounds by leaps.

1027
01:01:16,200 --> 01:01:19,600
Speaker 1: I couldn't even imagine in my day to disseminate the

1028
01:01:19,720 --> 01:01:22,520
Speaker 1: raw information with the names in it and what's now

1029
01:01:22,560 --> 01:01:27,439
Speaker 1: commonly was unmasking. You know, where is Russia in all

1030
01:01:27,440 --> 01:01:29,720
Speaker 1: of this? Because all right, now we have this, this

1031
01:01:30,120 --> 01:01:32,280
Speaker 1: what appears to be a terror attack tonight. Now the

1032
01:01:32,320 --> 01:01:35,919
Speaker 1: Russians have had their own radical Islamic problem over the years.

1033
01:01:35,960 --> 01:01:38,400
Speaker 1: But anyway, the latest update is we've got what ten

1034
01:01:38,480 --> 01:01:41,600
Speaker 1: people killed, at least of the fourteen people, you know,

1035
01:01:41,760 --> 01:01:45,920
Speaker 1: according to other unconfirmed reports, forty people injured. An explosion

1036
01:01:45,960 --> 01:01:49,120
Speaker 1: tore through the train in Carnage in St. Petersburg in

1037
01:01:49,160 --> 01:01:52,560
Speaker 1: their metro tunnel earlier today. But you know, now we've

1038
01:01:52,560 --> 01:01:57,080
Speaker 1: got Vladimir Putin seemingly you know, dealing with Iran, seemingly

1039
01:01:57,400 --> 01:02:01,600
Speaker 1: dealing with Syria and Turkey and and seemingly you know,

1040
01:02:02,080 --> 01:02:04,560
Speaker 1: looking at what the outcome and Syria is ultimately going

1041
01:02:04,600 --> 01:02:06,560
Speaker 1: to be for his own benefit. So where is he

1042
01:02:06,640 --> 01:02:09,600
Speaker 1: in this? I would add to that, add to what

1043
01:02:09,680 --> 01:02:12,640
Speaker 1: you just said the relationship that exists and has for

1044
01:02:12,640 --> 01:02:14,840
Speaker 1: a long period of time, all the way back to

1045
01:02:14,880 --> 01:02:19,680
Speaker 1: the fifties with the Kim dynasty inside North Korea. And

1046
01:02:19,720 --> 01:02:22,280
Speaker 1: so what you really have is what I call a

1047
01:02:22,320 --> 01:02:25,640
Speaker 1: triangle of evil. You've got the Russians dealing with Iran,

1048
01:02:25,840 --> 01:02:28,000
Speaker 1: You've got the Russians dealing with Turkey, You've got the

1049
01:02:28,040 --> 01:02:32,320
Speaker 1: Russians dealing with North Korea. And if you think about it,

1050
01:02:32,440 --> 01:02:35,280
Speaker 1: Vladimir Putin is not in great shape. I mean, he

1051
01:02:35,320 --> 01:02:37,720
Speaker 1: looks good on a horseback without a shirt hunt. But

1052
01:02:38,400 --> 01:02:42,760
Speaker 1: his allies are crazy despots in Point Yang and crazy

1053
01:02:42,840 --> 01:02:46,880
Speaker 1: Jahadis in Tehran, both of whom could well start World

1054
01:02:46,920 --> 01:02:50,720
Speaker 1: War three in less than a year. So the Trump administration,

1055
01:02:50,760 --> 01:02:53,000
Speaker 1: which came into town saying that they were going to

1056
01:02:53,080 --> 01:02:56,040
Speaker 1: try to get something going with the Russians, had an

1057
01:02:56,040 --> 01:02:58,200
Speaker 1: open window for a while. I would tell you that

1058
01:02:58,320 --> 01:03:02,200
Speaker 1: as of as of today, despite what just happened in St.

1059
01:03:02,200 --> 01:03:06,360
Speaker 1: Petersburg with it what is undoubtedly a terror attack, despite that,

1060
01:03:06,840 --> 01:03:09,680
Speaker 1: politically in this town, it's going to be very difficult

1061
01:03:09,840 --> 01:03:13,440
Speaker 1: for anybody in Washington to include the new president from

1062
01:03:13,440 --> 01:03:16,800
Speaker 1: opening up a new overture for some kind of accommodation

1063
01:03:16,840 --> 01:03:20,800
Speaker 1: with Moscow and Putin's governing a dying country. It covers

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Speaker 1: what nine Times owed. It's a demographic time bomb. The

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Speaker 1: Russians don't reproduce. No one emmigrates to Russia. There's a

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Speaker 1: million fewer Russians today than they we're two years ago,

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Speaker 1: not getting any better because nobody goes there, and as

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Speaker 1: soon as they can export a pretty woman, she comes

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Speaker 1: and marries somebody over the internet. By the way, it

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Speaker 1: sounds like the same move from New York. There was

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Speaker 1: an article today more than a million people moved out

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Speaker 1: of the state of New York to other parts of

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Speaker 1: which by the way, is the highest negative net migration

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Speaker 1: rate among the nation's large population centers. And I'm still

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Speaker 1: stuck here, paying stay out in New York Virginia, Now, buddy,

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Speaker 1: it's not it's by the way, the Commonwealth isn't that

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Speaker 1: much better either, So let's be honest here. But there

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Speaker 1: are better states like Texas and Florida. Hey, listen, we'll

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Speaker 1: continue with Colonel North on the other side. We'll get

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Speaker 1: to your calls. News round of information overload also coming.

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Speaker 1: If you are a regular listener to the program. Hey listen,

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Speaker 1: we all like family time. Here's the problem. You sit

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Speaker 1: everyone's using their gadgets. Everyone's on their phones, everyone's on

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Speaker 1: a way to bring your family together, and it just works.

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Speaker 1: Perfect game. The entire family can play, kids, adults, grandma

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Speaker 1: and grandpa. Anyway, the next thing you know, everyone starts

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Speaker 1: putting down their gadgets. They're having fun. It brings people

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Speaker 1: around the table, you create family memories, and you get

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Speaker 1: people off their electronic doesn't devices. It works for everything.

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Speaker 1: So this Easter, why don't you try and bring your

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Speaker 1: gonna want to play it every holiday. Wits End Wagers

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Speaker 1: on sale now Target Toys r US, just in time

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Speaker 1: for Easter. It's the game that brings families together. Wits

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Speaker 1: and Wagers will continue. The final hour roundup is an act.

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Speaker 1: You do not want to miss it, and stay tuned

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Speaker 1: for the final hour free for all on the Sean

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Speaker 1: Hannity Show. All Right, News round Up, Information Overload your

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Speaker 1: calls coming up at the bottom of this half hour

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Speaker 1: eight nine for one Sean. So a lot of reports

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Speaker 1: this weekend that there is some ongoing negotiations, that they

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Speaker 1: have revived discussions, although thankfully maybe for the first time,

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Speaker 1: nobody is out actually out there talking and negotiating in

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Speaker 1: the press because I I thought it was so mishandled

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Speaker 1: the the reveal on the first plan to repeal and

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Speaker 1: replace Obamacare. Anyway, So hopefully they're also looking at free

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Speaker 1: market competition solutions to the problem, because that's the answer.

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Speaker 1: I mean, if you have cooperatives like our buddy Josh

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Speaker 1: humber down in Whichita, Kansas, Well, that's an option that

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Speaker 1: I think a lot of small communities and towns can use.

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Speaker 1: Maybe not big cities, but maybe you can't even translate

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Speaker 1: it into some big cities. If you are offering health

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Speaker 1: savings accounts, that's a great way for young people to

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Speaker 1: build up a pretty hefty nest egg over the years

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Speaker 1: and their healthy years so when God forbid they get

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Speaker 1: older and they get sick, and they have a heart

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Speaker 1: attack or a bad accident, or God forbid to get cancer,

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Speaker 1: they'll be fine, and they'll have the money to pick

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Speaker 1: and choose where they want the best care and where

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Speaker 1: they think they get the best deal. The fact that

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Speaker 1: I keep hearing that these negotiations have been revived and

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Speaker 1: it seems like they tant has been reached between the

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Speaker 1: Freedom Caucus and and it's critics, and as if they

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Speaker 1: were responsible for this breakdown is a is a good

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Speaker 1: sign to me. Joining us now the former looks on

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Speaker 1: a governor of the great State of New York and

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Speaker 1: has been involved. She carries around and sleeps with the

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Speaker 1: Obamacare bill every night, and she's now the chairman of

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Speaker 1: the Committee to Reduce Infection Deaths. Betsy McCoy's with us.

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Speaker 1: Dr josh Umber of Atlas m D. I mean he

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Speaker 1: created the cooperative now that has been duplicated by hundreds

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Speaker 1: of other practices around the country where adults only pay

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Speaker 1: fifty bucks a month for unlimited care, children ten bucks

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Speaker 1: a month for unlimited care, forty eight cents for a

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Speaker 1: an X ray, and reductions because he negotiated directly with

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Speaker 1: the pharmaceutical companies, including even some some chemotherapy type of drugs.

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Speaker 1: So welcome both of you back to the program. Betsy,

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Speaker 1: I guess it's to me this is very critical. This

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Speaker 1: is not something I know people got a little bit

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Speaker 1: angry that it didn't happen right away. But from my perspective,

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Speaker 1: if improvements are made to the bill and it's more

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Speaker 1: free market oriented and it's the right answer, I don't

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Speaker 1: care how much time it takes. I'd rather get it

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Speaker 1: right than get speed. Your thoughts, Oh, I so agree

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Speaker 1: with you, Sean. And the fact is the Freedom Caucus

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Speaker 1: has done a great pervice to the nation. Of course,

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Speaker 1: I wanted the bill to go through. When when Speaker

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Speaker 1: Paul Ryan stood up there at the podium that Friday

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Speaker 1: and said Americans would be living with Obamacare for the

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Speaker 1: foreseeable future, I was extremely distressed with him, because all

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Speaker 1: of us want to see Obamacare repealed. He shouldn't have

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Speaker 1: thrown in the towel. In my view, he should have

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Speaker 1: said we need a few more days. Um. But the fact, well,

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Speaker 1: I I actually blame him for part of this. And

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Speaker 1: as much as nobody saw the bill before he unveiled

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Speaker 1: it publicly. Nobody, not one person had a chance to

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Speaker 1: read it, and he misled the president about having the votes. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and he also built zero consensus. Now we all know

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Speaker 1: the Republican Party, like the Democratic Party, is a coalition party.

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Speaker 1: You've got some liberals, you've got some moderates, you got

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Speaker 1: you know, the Tuesday, the Sunday, the Wednesday, the Saturday

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Speaker 1: Night drinking Group, the Freedom Caucus, you know, I mean,

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Speaker 1: the study group. It gets to be insane, and everyone's

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Speaker 1: got their specific agenda. But at the end of the day,

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Speaker 1: it's not going to be a perfect bill, but it's

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Speaker 1: gonna be infinitely better are than anything Obamacare gave us

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Speaker 1: as long as it's free market oriented. Right, Well, that's right.

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Speaker 1: And the original bill, the Ryan Bill, let's call it,

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Speaker 1: did three things very well. Repealed the individual mandate to

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Speaker 1: relieve those eight million people currently incurring penalties. Have repealed

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Speaker 1: the employer mandate, which should create an enormous amount of hiring,

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Speaker 1: and also ensured that people who have been demoted to

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Speaker 1: part time status get their full time jobs back. And

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Speaker 1: a reformed Medicaid, which is threatening us with a tidal

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Speaker 1: wave of red ink. But it didn't do one thing.

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Speaker 1: And here I can quote Louis Golmert, one of our

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Speaker 1: mutual favorite friends. It did not lower premiums. And the

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Speaker 1: Freedom Caucus had the answer for that. They had a

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Speaker 1: very sound answer. They were going to repeal the wacky

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Speaker 1: rule in Obamacare that requires health insurers to charge healthy

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Speaker 1: people the same exorbitant premiums as very sick people. It's

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Speaker 1: not that we're leaving sick people defend for them selves,

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Speaker 1: but it provides another much fairer way to subsidize care

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Speaker 1: for the sick and relieve healthy people from the unfair

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Speaker 1: burden of having to put those bills in their premiums.

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Speaker 1: I think that you've raised such a good point, and listen,

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Speaker 1: at the end of the day, nobody in this country

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Speaker 1: gives a rip about what reconciliation challenges exist for the Senate.

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Speaker 1: They don't care about the bird rule, and they don't

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Speaker 1: care about culture. What they want, Let's face it. By

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Speaker 1: the end of the week, let's face it, we hope

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Speaker 1: that the filibuster and the culture rule are things of

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Speaker 1: the past. I agree with that too, and if that,

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Speaker 1: if that happens, then this is we can make it

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Speaker 1: the best bill ever at that point, because they not

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Speaker 1: have to consider any of those Things's predicted in a

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Speaker 1: few days now that Rand Paul and others have gone

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Speaker 1: out and played golf with the President Trump and exchanged

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Speaker 1: these views in a calmer circumstance, that we will have

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Speaker 1: that bill that does all the things the original bill did,

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Speaker 1: plus that critically important components. Nobody's going to happy lowering premiums.

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Speaker 1: And by the way, people want the ductibles lower two

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Speaker 1: and they want better care. You can't see the chihuahua

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Speaker 1: and a Great Dane for the same price. And that's

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Speaker 1: what Obamacare was forcing healthy people to do. They were

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Speaker 1: they were the bill. You better be careful because the

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Speaker 1: great Dane is going to chew up the chihuahua and

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Speaker 1: then have that for breakfast. Uh. Dr Umber, let me

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Speaker 1: bring you back. And I gotta be honest. There's been

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Speaker 1: a lot of people that have been asking me about

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Speaker 1: you from Washington, and I do know that there are

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Speaker 1: people advocating not only for health savings accounts, but also

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Speaker 1: to incentivize the type of cooperatives that you yourself have

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Speaker 1: designed in Wichita and had duplicated around the country. Do

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Speaker 1: you think it's something that even big cities cann't handle. Absolutely.

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Speaker 1: We have doctors um you know, in small towns of

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Speaker 1: a few hundreds too obviously large urban areas doing this model.

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Speaker 1: And I think what you guys are talking about is

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Speaker 1: the GM pre leadership is isn't really good maybe leading.

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Speaker 1: They've always been the party opposition, or at least for

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Speaker 1: the last eight years, so to get into a role

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Speaker 1: where they had to bring people together. I think we

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Speaker 1: can repeal the place if we had a plan good

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Speaker 1: enough to get sixty votes. And I think the direct

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Speaker 1: care model of actually lowering the cost of care, well,

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Speaker 1: let me let me say, I don't think there's one

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Speaker 1: Democrat doctor m but not one. I mean if if

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Speaker 1: literally they if Donald Trump was offering the best care

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Speaker 1: for the lowest price, every Democrat would oppose it just

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Speaker 1: because it's Donald Trump. Well, but no, I think there's

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Speaker 1: a lot of vulnerable Democrats in states where where Trump

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Speaker 1: wont handedly and and if okare continues to go forward,

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Speaker 1: it continues to hurt people. So despite that, they want

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Speaker 1: to find some solution and they can't be obstruction to

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Speaker 1: set either. And direct care is easily the largest option

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Speaker 1: to come along, you know, unlimited care, no copase, free visits, huge,

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Speaker 1: saving some medicine lads. By the way, if I got

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Speaker 1: you more patients because I keep talking about you NonStop,

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Speaker 1: happy doctor, more patients. Oh, we'll spend my app tonoon

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Speaker 1: answering phone calls after the show airs because people call

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Speaker 1: and they want to find a doctor near them. They

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Speaker 1: they need more affordable healthcare and and that's that we're

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Speaker 1: this conversation. How how many how many other cooperatives did

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Speaker 1: you help doctors form at this point or how many

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Speaker 1: people came to you and and you shared with them

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Speaker 1: the model and they're duplicating it. As of the first

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Speaker 1: of April, we now have over two d fifty clinics

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Speaker 1: that we've personally helped get started UM. But there's probably

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Speaker 1: between five hundred thousand doing UM some variation of this model,

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Speaker 1: but there could be hundreds of thousands of doctors doing this.

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Speaker 1: This is just the start, and unfortunately there's a lot

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Speaker 1: of people asking for this and there isn't a direct

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Speaker 1: care provider near them, So we're telling them go out,

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Speaker 1: talk to your doctor, tell them there is a better way.

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Speaker 1: This is a grassroots movement led by patients. By the way,

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Speaker 1: the only people that I could see angry at this

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Speaker 1: or the insurance industry and maybe the pharmaceutical you know,

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Speaker 1: distributors want to control doctors and patients. They were angry too,

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Speaker 1: But I gets wonderful what what dr Umberg is doing.

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Speaker 1: And I'm a strong supporter of the American Association of

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Speaker 1: Physicians and Surgeons. People should go to their website and

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Speaker 1: really learn how you can have a relationship with your

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Speaker 1: doctor that keeps the insurance companies and the bureaucrats out

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Speaker 1: of the examining room. And it does lower insurance premiums

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Speaker 1: while improving insurance company profit. So I know that sounds odd,

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Speaker 1: but this is more like car home life insurance. So

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Speaker 1: there is a way that we can take this to me,

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Speaker 1: how do they make more money because they sell more

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Speaker 1: catastrophic plans and they're not involved if you stub your toe.

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Speaker 1: Same reason my life insurance makes money is they don't

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Speaker 1: use them for all the little stuff. And if we're

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Speaker 1: out competing Walmart, Target CBS on medications, we're lowing the

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Speaker 1: cost of labs, were eliminating paper, we could reasonably decrease

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Speaker 1: the cost of care in this country a significant amount.

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Speaker 1: We're able now with even less an ideal policy decrease

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Speaker 1: employer health insurance premiums by sixty percent. If Trump could

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Speaker 1: do that, trump could lower taxes and he'd have an

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Speaker 1: economic boom. I would last. Well, let me ask you this,

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Speaker 1: what where did this originate from? What made you start this? Well,

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Speaker 1: you know I had watched doctors leaving insurance since two

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Speaker 1: thousand when I was a premed student, because it was

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Speaker 1: broken then and it only got worse. So over ten years,

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Speaker 1: we watched a lot of different doctors try a lot

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Speaker 1: of different things before coming up with our model. Uh.

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Speaker 1: And there are a lot of just wonderful doctors who

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Speaker 1: we learned from in that process, and then a continual

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Speaker 1: evolution of how do we find the best value for

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Speaker 1: our patients? And I think if we keep asking ourselves

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Speaker 1: that are hypocritic, oh should you know of do no harm?

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Speaker 1: Shouldn't do no financial harm? Physicians should take it that

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Speaker 1: proud responsibility um that to be looking for, for example,

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Speaker 1: lower care. So when the cost of pharmaceuticals and you

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Speaker 1: negotiated what reduction on average? Is that the built in profit?

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Speaker 1: If I go to a CBS or a rite aid,

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Speaker 1: some of that's built in profit. And but I think

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Speaker 1: a lot of it is built in inefficiency, and so

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Speaker 1: I do think the big box stores could be a

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Speaker 1: lot more aggressive on the value proposition, but they're not

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Speaker 1: having to be. We have a broken market because the

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Speaker 1: consumer pays their ten dollar copay and then they try

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Speaker 1: to build insurance for the most that they can, but

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Speaker 1: then they don't get paid on every prescription they hand

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Speaker 1: out because of insurance rules and red tape and and

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Speaker 1: you know, coding and bureaucracy. So it's a broken system

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Speaker 1: leading to more expensive care with without even good profit.

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Speaker 1: But let's once we eliminate the individual mandate, all of

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Speaker 1: these solutions are going to flourishes, Sean because there won't

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Speaker 1: be anything stopping them. People won't be legally right listen

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Speaker 1: right now, as you know, Betsy, because you know the

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Speaker 1: healthcare bill of Obama better than I do. But you

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Speaker 1: can't even buy a catastrophic planets illegal. Well, that's right.

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Speaker 1: In most states, it's illegal. And and furthermore, this is

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Speaker 1: the really terrible part of this whole thing. When people

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Speaker 1: pay their premiums now in the individual market, they're not

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Speaker 1: paying for their own insurance. This is just a tax,

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Speaker 1: a big tax, a big shift of wealth from one

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Speaker 1: group of people to another. They're being forced to pay

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Speaker 1: a premium that's many times the cost of their own

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Speaker 1: The whole, the whole crux of Obamacare was the young

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Speaker 1: and the healthy paying for the sick, the elderly, and disabled.

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Speaker 1: And it became a Ponzi scheme. And that's why nobody

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Speaker 1: instinctively wanted it and why we didn't get to twenty

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Speaker 1: four million people on Obamacare. We got to less than

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Speaker 1: half of that. All right, stay right there, We'll continue

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Speaker 1: with Betsy McCoy and with Dr umber One. Shawn. Your

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Speaker 1: will continue well with Betsy McCoy and Josh Humber and

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Speaker 1: your calls straight ahead bringing jobs back to America and

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Speaker 1: getting America back door shure. And as we continue, it

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Speaker 1: looks like the healthcare debate is back in play. We'll

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Speaker 1: have to wait, watch and see over time which way

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Speaker 1: this goes. But anyway, we continue with Dr Josh Umber.

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Speaker 1: He is with Atlas m d out of Wichita Kansas.

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Speaker 1: Betsy McCoy, former Lieutenant governor of the State of New

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Speaker 1: York and a healthcare advocate. Drum. You know people write

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Speaker 1: us and ask us all the time. Well, actually they

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Speaker 1: annoying Linda, which is why this is really Linda's question.

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Speaker 1: And Linda is annoying me until I ask her question

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Speaker 1: and she goes where do people go to find one

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Speaker 1: of the doctor cooperatives like the one you're a part

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Speaker 1: of if they don't live in Wichita, Kansas. Absolutely, we

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Speaker 1: have a great map UM another doctor put together. It's

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Speaker 1: the website is DPC like Direct Primary Care DPC frontier

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Speaker 1: dot com, and it's an excellent map. You can zoom

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Speaker 1: in and find doctors who practice this model nearby, and

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Speaker 1: then if you don't have a doctor nearby, they can

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Speaker 1: always reach out to us. This is a grassroots movement.

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Speaker 1: This is patients demanding something better when they hear about

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Speaker 1: it UM, so simply on shows like this, they they

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Speaker 1: naturally gravitate towards it UM and won't needna Linda said.

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Speaker 1: Linda said, I'm making your life a living hell by

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Speaker 1: putting you on all the time and mentioning you all

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Speaker 1: the time. Mine too. Yeah, First of all, I didn't

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Speaker 1: say that. Great, that's not true. You said I'm making

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Speaker 1: his life a living hell because I keep mentioning him

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Speaker 1: every day. And you said he's getting the calls and

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Speaker 1: he can't do his job as a doctor anymore. Well,

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Speaker 1: you're probably bugging my nurses more because they feel more

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Speaker 1: of those song calls than I do. But yes, well,

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Speaker 1: you know what you're really describing. You know what I

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Speaker 1: love about this. You're describing concierge care that really is

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Speaker 1: only available to very wealthy people. In other words, people

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Speaker 1: that may not have insurance or all they have is

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Speaker 1: catastrophic insurance. And in other words, if they need stitches,

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Speaker 1: they go into a doctor, they write a check, or

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Speaker 1: they go to you know, their buddy the doctor, or

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Speaker 1: they put a doctor on retainer themselves for you know,

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Speaker 1: God forbid an emergency happens. I know a ton of

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Speaker 1: people that do it. I don't do it myself, but

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Speaker 1: I have friends of mine that are doctors, and I'll

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Speaker 1: just pick up at the phone at three in the

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Speaker 1: morning and they'll do me a favor, right, right, And

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Speaker 1: so this is blue collar concerts in a lot of ways.

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Speaker 1: That's also for the term direct care because I think

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Speaker 1: some people get afraid of the term concerts. But what

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Speaker 1: we do want to show is that we're providing top

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Speaker 1: level care that is affordable to everybody. I think it's

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Speaker 1: real quick that people get worried that this means only

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Speaker 1: wealthy people are going to get access to care. And

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Speaker 1: what we want to show is that this is a

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Speaker 1: model that helps everybody. And if we decrease again health

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Speaker 1: insurance for employers and there would be a Trump economic

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Speaker 1: uh you know, boom, the breaking would be jealous. That's

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Speaker 1: what That's what we were saying earlier though, because it's

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Speaker 1: very important that Republicans get it right, because if they

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Speaker 1: don't lower the cost of premiums and offer better care,

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Speaker 1: and they're gonna end up access. They can't fix jobs now,

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Speaker 1: they can't do anything. I mean, they're they're counting on

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Speaker 1: up I think a trillion dollars almost in savings here

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Speaker 1: before they can move forward with their economic plan. Is

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Speaker 1: that right, Betsy, Well, that's right. And if you eliminate

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Speaker 1: this one price for everybody, regardless of health condition rule,

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Speaker 1: so that the chihuahua and the Great Dane aren't forced

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Speaker 1: to pay the same price, you will see premiums come

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Speaker 1: down by as much as fifty We've analyzed the data

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Speaker 1: and we know that that one rule in Obamacare that

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Speaker 1: prohibits insurers from giving healthy people a break amounts to

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Speaker 1: fifty percent of the premium hikes. Since all right, thank

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Speaker 1: you both for being with us. Betsy McCoy, doctor number

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Speaker 1: atlas m D Wichita, Kansas, Thank you both for being

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Speaker 1: with us. This is what you call a solution to

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Speaker 1: a major problem, because sometimes getting it right is more

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Speaker 1: important than the speed of getting it done. Alright, eight one,

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Speaker 1: Shawn are told free telephone number. We'll take a quick break.

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Speaker 1: We'll hit the phone's final half hour, quick break. Right back,

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Speaker 1: we'll continue day in this country. But January first, what

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Speaker 1: he did, yes, card to be or trusting on them

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Speaker 1: the merchant to pecat rustan careen merch Trump walks the

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Speaker 1: world said, Donald Trump, you don't stand for our values.

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Speaker 1: That's what they said, Donald Trump. You didn't win this election.

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Speaker 1: Donald Trump, we will resist. And when we know he

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Speaker 1: did so, we didn't show that says fully now. And

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Speaker 1: I gave her health to night done. WoT he had something?

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Speaker 1: Non Trump wants his name around everything like Trump towers,

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Speaker 1: Trump says tump times. But when it came to healthcare,

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Speaker 1: you want to want trump care, So what we call

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Speaker 1: trump care, I can't line care. Well, that good idea,

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Speaker 1: because you know what you need is a program. I

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Speaker 1: don't care. I don't care. He's got. They're back the snowflakes.

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Speaker 1: That is the new d n C chairman Tom Perez

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Speaker 1: and his insistent Trump didn't win the election. He's dangerous,

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Speaker 1: He's unhinged. I mean, I just can't believe this guy

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Speaker 1: is losing his mind this way and he's just starting.

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Speaker 1: Somebody I know sat next to this guy once and

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Speaker 1: he is absolutely off the rails, insane. It's gonna be

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Speaker 1: interesting to watch. What else you have? The Massachusetts City

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Speaker 1: Council to vote on Trump impeachment resolutions. Good Morning America

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Speaker 1: covered that important story. Let's see we've got uh oh,

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Speaker 1: the DC swamp creatures funneled. I saw this the other day.

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Speaker 1: Forty one billion taxpayer dollars to elite wealthy ivy schools.

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Speaker 1: Chatton Bream reporting for Fox your taxpayer dollars and helping

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Speaker 1: to fund private universities despite the fact that their bank

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Speaker 1: accounts are bursting at the seams. Why would we ever

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Speaker 1: do this? Jerry Willis reports a new study founded over

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Speaker 1: a six year period, Ivy League colleges brought in more

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Speaker 1: money from your taxpayer dollars than from all the payments

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Speaker 1: a tuition to undergraduate students. And this despite the fact

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Speaker 1: that they have more than a hundred and nineteen billion

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Speaker 1: dollars in endowment money. That's insane. Uh. And then we

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Speaker 1: got Hillary back on the scene, and they got Chuck Schumer,

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Speaker 1: and we got Nancy Pelosi, we got Maxine Waters talking

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Speaker 1: about impeachment every other day. All right, let's get to

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Speaker 1: our busy telephones here as we say hi to uh,

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Speaker 1: let's say hi to Mike and North Carolina. What's up, Minke?

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Speaker 1: How are you, Sean? What's going on? I'm good? How

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Speaker 1: are you good? Can't complain. Look, I'm a officer in

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Speaker 1: the United States military down here for Brad. I'm just

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Speaker 1: here to tell you I'm a little deeply disappointed in

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Speaker 1: the Freeman Caucus. I'm disappointed into the whole entire way

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Speaker 1: that the Republican Party show is to lay out the plan,

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Speaker 1: especially in my own Senator Mark Meadows. He's a freaking

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Speaker 1: record and at the end of the day, what he

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01:26:07,880 --> 01:26:11,599
Speaker 1: really needs to do and be voted out office by

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Speaker 1: somebody else is a little bit more smart about how

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Speaker 1: North Carolins actually see things. You don't even you don't

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Speaker 1: even know what was in the bill at all. Do

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Speaker 1: you tell me what was in this new bill? Me?

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01:26:21,960 --> 01:26:24,720
Speaker 1: What was in the new bill? Okay, so let's talk

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01:26:24,760 --> 01:26:28,479
Speaker 1: about one in the new bill was for defund and

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Speaker 1: plan parenthood. I listened to you almost every single day, okay,

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Speaker 1: but here, but what was what was? You know? Because

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01:26:34,920 --> 01:26:38,360
Speaker 1: you're you're attacking Congress me Meadows, here's my take on it.

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01:26:38,520 --> 01:26:41,439
Speaker 1: Rather than engage in your ad hominem attacks and using

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01:26:41,560 --> 01:26:44,280
Speaker 1: horrible names to call people, I'll just put to push

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01:26:44,360 --> 01:26:46,600
Speaker 1: that to the side because I think Mark Meadows and

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Speaker 1: the Freedom Caucus actually what they're asking for is to

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Speaker 1: make this a better bill that allows for the cooperatives,

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Speaker 1: that allows for the healthcare savings accounts, which, by the way,

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Speaker 1: we're fundamental to what the president's promises were during the campaign.

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Speaker 1: So that in my mind makes him a hero and

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01:27:06,760 --> 01:27:09,080
Speaker 1: that's a good thing for everybody. And then if you

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01:27:09,120 --> 01:27:11,439
Speaker 1: look at the specific things that they're talking about here,

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01:27:11,920 --> 01:27:14,960
Speaker 1: you know they're gonna redesign the Obamacare tax credits instead

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01:27:15,000 --> 01:27:17,519
Speaker 1: of creating a new tax credit, you know, reduce the

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01:27:17,680 --> 01:27:21,799
Speaker 1: value of the benchmark plan from a sevent actual actual

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01:27:21,840 --> 01:27:24,960
Speaker 1: aerial value to a sixty one, allow credits for people

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01:27:25,040 --> 01:27:28,240
Speaker 1: with income below of the of the type of coverage

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01:27:28,280 --> 01:27:29,600
Speaker 1: that they want to have, and what they're trying to

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01:27:29,640 --> 01:27:33,080
Speaker 1: do is make it more. It allows the creation of

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01:27:33,200 --> 01:27:38,320
Speaker 1: high risk pools. It allows, you know, potentially adding the

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01:27:38,439 --> 01:27:42,519
Speaker 1: component which was missing in the in the last bill,

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01:27:42,600 --> 01:27:48,080
Speaker 1: of enhanced health care savings accounts, increasing significantly the contribution limits,

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01:27:48,680 --> 01:27:51,600
Speaker 1: you know, rolling over excess premium tax credits, and the

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01:27:51,680 --> 01:27:56,120
Speaker 1: health savings accounts allow for health sharing cooperatives to be built.

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01:27:56,760 --> 01:27:59,120
Speaker 1: And at the end of the day, it allows the

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01:27:59,160 --> 01:28:01,439
Speaker 1: health savings and counts, you know what to do what

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01:28:01,680 --> 01:28:03,919
Speaker 1: dr Umberg is doing, and then go out and negotiate

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01:28:04,160 --> 01:28:07,400
Speaker 1: better rates for people. So, you know, you maybe want

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01:28:07,439 --> 01:28:10,519
Speaker 1: it done now and fast, and I want it done right,

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01:28:10,680 --> 01:28:13,000
Speaker 1: and I think what they proposed as changes should have

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01:28:13,080 --> 01:28:17,479
Speaker 1: been taken into consideration. Now. The biggest obstacle to all

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01:28:17,520 --> 01:28:19,880
Speaker 1: of this is nobody got to read the bill before

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01:28:19,960 --> 01:28:24,400
Speaker 1: they unveiled the bill publicly. They were never brought into

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01:28:24,520 --> 01:28:27,080
Speaker 1: the process of trying to make the bill better at

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01:28:27,120 --> 01:28:31,240
Speaker 1: any point, and so fighting to make a bill better

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01:28:31,439 --> 01:28:34,479
Speaker 1: for people just makes sense to me. And it's just

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01:28:34,640 --> 01:28:36,640
Speaker 1: something that I actually applaud them for. But I'm not

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01:28:36,680 --> 01:28:39,280
Speaker 1: going to convince you, so there's no point alright. Eight

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Speaker 1: nine four one Sean Big Time A J Houston, Texas.

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01:28:42,720 --> 01:28:50,200
Speaker 1: What's going on baby at KTRH big Hey, you know

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01:28:50,400 --> 01:28:53,519
Speaker 1: what the best part about this all is we're gonna

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01:28:53,520 --> 01:28:56,160
Speaker 1: get another shot at this And the best part about

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01:28:56,200 --> 01:29:00,040
Speaker 1: it is we the people know what we need to do.

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01:29:00,520 --> 01:29:02,879
Speaker 1: And the best part about it is we got somebody

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01:29:03,000 --> 01:29:05,760
Speaker 1: with some cohones up there to get it done. And

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01:29:05,800 --> 01:29:08,160
Speaker 1: the only thing we need is the rest of the

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01:29:08,280 --> 01:29:11,640
Speaker 1: idiots to get some cohones to stand for what they

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01:29:11,760 --> 01:29:15,160
Speaker 1: said they was going to do. Now, we had somebody

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01:29:15,280 --> 01:29:18,280
Speaker 1: up there that said, oh, we gotta read the uh,

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01:29:18,640 --> 01:29:20,960
Speaker 1: you gotta vote it before you read the bill. Now

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01:29:21,040 --> 01:29:23,519
Speaker 1: we don't know who that was, but like you said,

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01:29:23,920 --> 01:29:29,519
Speaker 1: they did not show nobody to bill. But can now people,

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01:29:30,600 --> 01:29:33,160
Speaker 1: we just like a football game, you gotta get a

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01:29:33,240 --> 01:29:36,920
Speaker 1: first down. And then they look what raiding them did.

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01:29:37,000 --> 01:29:39,679
Speaker 1: They was losing and then they came back and wanted

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01:29:40,200 --> 01:29:43,000
Speaker 1: you got to give yourself a chance in this People

1547
01:29:43,400 --> 01:29:47,160
Speaker 1: don't be selling out to these Democrats. They make you sick,

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01:29:47,280 --> 01:29:50,360
Speaker 1: becoga what they've been done. Look at Susan Rice right now,

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01:29:50,680 --> 01:29:52,599
Speaker 1: look at all that, and we ain't hear nothing about

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01:29:52,640 --> 01:29:55,320
Speaker 1: the man. Only you, Sean and the rest of us

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01:29:55,600 --> 01:29:59,639
Speaker 1: as on this now. And they're still talking about Russia, Shanda, Russia,

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01:29:59,720 --> 01:30:02,360
Speaker 1: call you because they showed and called me to vote

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01:30:02,400 --> 01:30:07,560
Speaker 1: for Trost Vladimir and waiting for Vladimir's call and I

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01:30:07,600 --> 01:30:10,880
Speaker 1: didn't call me. Uh, I ain't got no call either.

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01:30:11,479 --> 01:30:14,240
Speaker 1: Now wait a minute, they quick they have a start,

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01:30:14,360 --> 01:30:18,200
Speaker 1: but that is no story. There isn't anything. Why they

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01:30:18,400 --> 01:30:22,080
Speaker 1: keep hoppering on what they We got real stuff and

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01:30:22,160 --> 01:30:24,960
Speaker 1: the media ain't sharing it with nobody. So with that

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01:30:25,120 --> 01:30:27,760
Speaker 1: telling the shine, we got a bunch of crooks up

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01:30:27,800 --> 01:30:31,160
Speaker 1: there in the Democrat Party and this showing, but the media,

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01:30:31,520 --> 01:30:35,000
Speaker 1: that nut wing media, whar they are to know? The people?

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01:30:35,120 --> 01:30:37,960
Speaker 1: Should we know what they're about? And all this they

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01:30:38,200 --> 01:30:41,519
Speaker 1: scared to put out. Well, Sean, we're gonna have it.

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01:30:41,720 --> 01:30:44,519
Speaker 1: We got it, and dugg on it. These Republicans better

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01:30:44,600 --> 01:30:48,479
Speaker 1: girls set because we're watching them. We're watching them big time, Sean.

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01:30:48,880 --> 01:30:52,559
Speaker 1: And good work as usual, big daddy fan. You are

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01:30:52,680 --> 01:30:55,599
Speaker 1: the man. You know a j We've been way ahead

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01:30:55,600 --> 01:30:57,400
Speaker 1: of the curve on this, and you know what, we're

1569
01:30:57,439 --> 01:30:59,479
Speaker 1: being proving right, and the media is gonna have egg

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01:30:59,640 --> 01:31:02,479
Speaker 1: on their face as well, all of the snowflakes and

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01:31:02,680 --> 01:31:05,519
Speaker 1: all of these so called newspeople. All right, let me

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01:31:05,600 --> 01:31:07,640
Speaker 1: get to our phones. Thank you big time. Appreciate it.

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Speaker 1: John and Long Beach in California. What's up, John? How

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01:31:10,640 --> 01:31:14,679
Speaker 1: are you listening to K E I B. What's going on? Certainly, Sean,

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01:31:14,720 --> 01:31:16,040
Speaker 1: First of all, let me tell you a thirty eight

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01:31:16,120 --> 01:31:18,360
Speaker 1: years in the in the as a media, in print

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01:31:18,400 --> 01:31:21,760
Speaker 1: and broadcast media, all in big markets. I was proud

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01:31:21,760 --> 01:31:24,360
Speaker 1: of you standing up the Copple. I really was, honestly,

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01:31:24,640 --> 01:31:27,760
Speaker 1: the journalists of journalists, I just really appreciate that was

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01:31:27,840 --> 01:31:30,639
Speaker 1: easy to get how this happens, the group think happens.

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01:31:31,360 --> 01:31:34,040
Speaker 1: The fourth estate we call ourselves and and they we

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01:31:34,160 --> 01:31:38,160
Speaker 1: view ourselves collectively, not me particularly, as the only block,

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01:31:38,479 --> 01:31:42,160
Speaker 1: the only barricade between the evil corporate world, the plutocrats

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01:31:42,200 --> 01:31:44,960
Speaker 1: and everything. And at first it becomes a sense of duty.

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01:31:45,000 --> 01:31:47,680
Speaker 1: Then it becomes like a sense of entitlement, right, and

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01:31:48,000 --> 01:31:50,760
Speaker 1: and then it becomes like, well, anything that we do

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01:31:51,439 --> 01:31:53,720
Speaker 1: is okay because if you're fighting. You know, this is

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01:31:53,760 --> 01:31:56,360
Speaker 1: how Harry Read can justify being such a hypocrite on

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01:31:56,479 --> 01:31:59,439
Speaker 1: these on this nuclear option, because when you're fighting evil, Sean,

1590
01:31:59,720 --> 01:32:02,759
Speaker 1: when fighting the bad guys, anything you do is okay

1591
01:32:02,880 --> 01:32:04,960
Speaker 1: and anything they do is not okay. So they have

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01:32:05,080 --> 01:32:07,800
Speaker 1: to follow rules we don't. You know, if you have

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01:32:08,080 --> 01:32:10,880
Speaker 1: hell elections in newsrooms, you have very few Republicans electors.

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01:32:10,920 --> 01:32:12,600
Speaker 1: So this is how it happens. What do you what

1595
01:32:12,680 --> 01:32:15,120
Speaker 1: do you do that? How Copple was so arrogant with you,

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01:32:15,120 --> 01:32:17,559
Speaker 1: you know, that's how it was. They look upon themselves

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01:32:17,560 --> 01:32:21,280
Speaker 1: as being better. What do you doing media? I'm a

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01:32:21,520 --> 01:32:24,479
Speaker 1: I'm a primarily print but I've done the talk shows.

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01:32:24,479 --> 01:32:26,479
Speaker 1: I've done a couple of national sports talk shows over

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01:32:26,520 --> 01:32:28,360
Speaker 1: the years. You know, you know, you know to call

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01:32:28,520 --> 01:32:32,040
Speaker 1: Robin Berta Lucci out there in Los Angeles over at

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01:32:32,120 --> 01:32:34,800
Speaker 1: our affiliate k I B and I think she she

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01:32:34,880 --> 01:32:37,400
Speaker 1: also runs KF High, So check in with her and

1604
01:32:37,479 --> 01:32:41,280
Speaker 1: tell her that, hey, you need a good host. I'm available. Well,

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01:32:41,320 --> 01:32:43,560
Speaker 1: I've done I'm working on that. I've I've done that

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01:32:43,640 --> 01:32:46,000
Speaker 1: in the past. But this is about you right now, Sean.

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01:32:46,080 --> 01:32:50,000
Speaker 1: I was Copple was so sanctimonious with you because he

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01:32:50,080 --> 01:32:52,720
Speaker 1: doesn't have any problems to get his point across being up.

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01:32:53,000 --> 01:32:54,560
Speaker 1: You know, an ethical is to cut the you know,

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01:32:54,640 --> 01:32:58,400
Speaker 1: cut it short. It's because they want to control the message.

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01:32:58,400 --> 01:33:01,160
Speaker 1: It's it's you know. The funny thing is he asked

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01:33:01,160 --> 01:33:03,560
Speaker 1: me to give him the time to say what he

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01:33:03,640 --> 01:33:06,160
Speaker 1: wants to say. I sit back and let him make

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01:33:06,240 --> 01:33:09,720
Speaker 1: his attack and then boom, cut, slice and dice in

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01:33:09,800 --> 01:33:11,920
Speaker 1: the edit room, and I'm like, can you make it

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01:33:12,040 --> 01:33:15,240
Speaker 1: any more unfair? I mean, and I will tell you

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01:33:15,360 --> 01:33:18,400
Speaker 1: the entire interview if he ever aired it, I look great.

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01:33:19,040 --> 01:33:20,760
Speaker 1: And that's the way he didn't want everyone to see

1619
01:33:21,320 --> 01:33:24,599
Speaker 1: because I come prepared to do these interviews. And why

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01:33:24,600 --> 01:33:26,760
Speaker 1: do you think that's braggadocious. I think I'm bragg No.

1621
01:33:26,880 --> 01:33:28,800
Speaker 1: I I want people to see it because I know,

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01:33:30,320 --> 01:33:33,719
Speaker 1: I know I made the case against the abusively biased media,

1623
01:33:33,880 --> 01:33:36,160
Speaker 1: and I know I made the case about how liberalism

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01:33:36,200 --> 01:33:39,080
Speaker 1: has failed and why it must be defeated. They kept

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01:33:39,120 --> 01:33:42,439
Speaker 1: the line in there, the headline, Hannity says liberalism must

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01:33:42,439 --> 01:33:45,080
Speaker 1: be defeated. But why? And then I went through all

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01:33:45,120 --> 01:33:47,960
Speaker 1: the Obama statistics and I explained everything in detail, and

1628
01:33:47,960 --> 01:33:50,760
Speaker 1: I explain how people are suffering, and I explain how

1629
01:33:50,800 --> 01:33:54,759
Speaker 1: the countries in a precipitous decline. Anyway, John God blush

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01:33:54,800 --> 01:33:58,599
Speaker 1: you and uh go see Robin and tell her. I say, hello, Okay, thanks,

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01:33:58,640 --> 01:34:01,559
Speaker 1: I will thank you very much. All right, thank you one.

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01:34:01,640 --> 01:34:05,280
Speaker 1: Sean Susannah is in Pittsburgh, p A. What's up, Susannah?

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01:34:05,320 --> 01:34:08,120
Speaker 1: How are you well? Hi? San? First, I want to

1634
01:34:08,160 --> 01:34:10,360
Speaker 1: say you're great for America. You're just horrendous for the

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01:34:10,680 --> 01:34:15,960
Speaker 1: Russian conspiracist. Yeah, exactly, Or as liberal Joe said, Hannity's

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01:34:16,000 --> 01:34:21,439
Speaker 1: having a bromance with Russia. I'm like, no, Joe, but

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01:34:21,600 --> 01:34:24,160
Speaker 1: he listen. I just want to say that sewn Um,

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01:34:24,520 --> 01:34:27,439
Speaker 1: there's a whole lot of things wrong with the Ryan Uh.

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01:34:27,800 --> 01:34:30,000
Speaker 1: I want to say Ryan Care. First of all, he

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01:34:30,120 --> 01:34:33,439
Speaker 1: was very deceptive saying that it was necessary for three

1641
01:34:33,520 --> 01:34:36,840
Speaker 1: phases when I hear otherwise. He left out key people

1642
01:34:37,000 --> 01:34:39,120
Speaker 1: and didn't discuss it with them. But the thing that's

1643
01:34:39,960 --> 01:34:42,679
Speaker 1: the worst about it is that he has no passion

1644
01:34:42,840 --> 01:34:45,560
Speaker 1: to change it because he doesn't have to accept the

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01:34:45,680 --> 01:34:49,760
Speaker 1: healthcare that we paid for. So what I think a

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01:34:49,920 --> 01:34:52,840
Speaker 1: national campaign should be this that since they didn't have

1647
01:34:52,880 --> 01:34:54,760
Speaker 1: to accept what we have to live under, they need

1648
01:34:54,800 --> 01:34:57,080
Speaker 1: to come up with a plan that is acceptable, that

1649
01:34:57,200 --> 01:35:00,200
Speaker 1: that they have to accept and that is good for us.

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01:35:00,400 --> 01:35:03,240
Speaker 1: That's the only way I see then coming up with

1651
01:35:03,320 --> 01:35:05,320
Speaker 1: a decent plan. So I think we just need to

1652
01:35:05,320 --> 01:35:09,080
Speaker 1: start a national campaign that whatever they passed they have

1653
01:35:09,240 --> 01:35:11,880
Speaker 1: to accept for themselves and their families. And there's no

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01:35:12,000 --> 01:35:14,080
Speaker 1: reason why they shouldn't. And I'll tell you why we

1655
01:35:14,240 --> 01:35:17,320
Speaker 1: pay for their bill. Well, I think you right, is

1656
01:35:17,320 --> 01:35:19,600
Speaker 1: a good point. Look, I think that I'm like the

1657
01:35:19,680 --> 01:35:22,680
Speaker 1: average person, and I think the average American that has

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01:35:22,720 --> 01:35:26,559
Speaker 1: seen their rates go up five thousand four dollars on average,

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01:35:26,600 --> 01:35:29,120
Speaker 1: and we're seeing rate increases this year that are even

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01:35:29,240 --> 01:35:32,760
Speaker 1: higher percent in the case of in the case of

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01:35:33,640 --> 01:35:36,479
Speaker 1: of what's going on in Arizona. And and people want this.

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01:35:36,840 --> 01:35:39,400
Speaker 1: They want the best plan they can get, the best

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01:35:39,520 --> 01:35:43,120
Speaker 1: care they can have, and they wanted at the lowest price.

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01:35:43,640 --> 01:35:47,599
Speaker 1: And unfortunately the bill needed an adjustment because the premium

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01:35:47,640 --> 01:35:50,760
Speaker 1: warrant set to go down. And that's the only main

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01:35:51,120 --> 01:35:56,080
Speaker 1: reason why anyway under it, they just won't do it.

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01:35:56,320 --> 01:35:58,920
Speaker 1: I had a brother in law who died because of Obamacare,

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01:35:59,040 --> 01:36:01,479
Speaker 1: so it's very first not me, but I think they

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01:36:01,560 --> 01:36:04,559
Speaker 1: need to live under whatever they passed that they are

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01:36:04,600 --> 01:36:07,120
Speaker 1: public servants, that's what they call themselves, to let them

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01:36:07,160 --> 01:36:09,519
Speaker 1: live like such. I agree, you know, I'd used the

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01:36:09,520 --> 01:36:12,200
Speaker 1: analogy last week on the program. This guy that for

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01:36:12,320 --> 01:36:15,600
Speaker 1: many years was one of the the leading voices in

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01:36:15,640 --> 01:36:18,439
Speaker 1: the radio industry. He used to do a speech and

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01:36:18,560 --> 01:36:20,680
Speaker 1: he draw up a triangle, and he'd have at the

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01:36:20,720 --> 01:36:24,559
Speaker 1: top of the triangle were the listeners and everybody else

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01:36:24,640 --> 01:36:28,120
Speaker 1: below that was there to support the host, which is

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01:36:28,200 --> 01:36:32,200
Speaker 1: closest to the listeners, and the program directors that directly

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01:36:32,240 --> 01:36:35,240
Speaker 1: helped the hosts, and and the producers that helped the host,

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01:36:35,360 --> 01:36:37,720
Speaker 1: and and then all the way down to the main managers,

1681
01:36:37,840 --> 01:36:40,639
Speaker 1: the top guys there at the bottom, and their job

1682
01:36:40,760 --> 01:36:44,400
Speaker 1: is to support everybody's goal, which is to serve your listener.

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01:36:45,160 --> 01:36:47,320
Speaker 1: And I thought it was a great analogy. The same

1684
01:36:47,360 --> 01:36:50,120
Speaker 1: thing with politicians. They should be at the bottom, the

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01:36:50,280 --> 01:36:54,040
Speaker 1: base of the triangle and serving the people at the top.

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01:36:54,520 --> 01:36:58,280
Speaker 1: That's we the people with good bills that you know.

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