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Speaker 1: I sound worse than I am? I think right now,

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Speaker 1: But maybe that's applicable to a number of teams. Maybe

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Speaker 2: V E R B A L L e r s

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Speaker 2: dot com. Daniel Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Recent conversation topics on the discord server and multiple channels

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Speaker 1: of course on the server, pants shorts, charcouterie boards, head coaching, searches, upsets,

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Speaker 1: what's going on with Penn State? Uh, travel to Europe.

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Speaker 2: I believe it's all over.

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Speaker 1: It's so good. It's a great community and I love

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Speaker 1: that you describe it in a way that a parent

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Speaker 1: would try to convince their child to invite their friends

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Speaker 1: our basement's a cool place to hang. Oh I won't

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Speaker 1: hear otherwise. It's a great cool place, So I agree

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Speaker 2: And basement of the college baseball ether, Yes, come on

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Speaker 2: over to balls dot com. You know, Dan, I don't

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Speaker 2: know where people are listening to this show right now.

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Speaker 2: My sense is that the good people of the world

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Speaker 2: company the record store too.

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Speaker 1: I see where you're going with this.

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Speaker 2: I was thinking maybe a Cheryl Crow Saturday, because all

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Speaker 1: Cheryl Crow Saturday.

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Speaker 2: Crow may be busy, too busy for the show, oh man.

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Speaker 1: So I think that across the sport is a through line.

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Speaker 1: buy all means. I don't need to tell you this.

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Speaker 1: Watch your team, watch your games. But you are of

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Speaker 1: you will go in further detail that Penn State might

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Speaker 1: be circling the toilet bowl right after last week's loss, yep,

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Speaker 1: it's absolutely monumental ceiling as an offense. So I would

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Speaker 1: But in terms of ugliness potential, the night window might

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Speaker 2: But I don't know.

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Speaker 1: That's just a guess obviously.

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Speaker 2: Well, let's start early, Dan, let's start on the Fox network.

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Speaker 2: This one is at high noon. It is Michigan on

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Speaker 2: the road. A four point favorite.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, double?

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Speaker 2: What is it?

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Speaker 1: Big noon Saturday and game day both on campus.

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Speaker 1: Mike Hart will be in the building. Michigan coach, Michigan assistant.

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Speaker 2: Michigan State versus Michigan This is a big game. Michigan

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Speaker 2: a big time danger zone. Okay, because I still don't

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Speaker 2: Well, what worries me is this, and this is more

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Speaker 1: It's important and it continue.

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Speaker 2: And that's what worries me, you know, because Michigan has

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Speaker 1: Georgia has completed passes downfield at a more impressive clip,

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Speaker 2: It's a long round about diatribe. I don't know what

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Speaker 2: I'm not sure we've seen that Michigan. So again, I'm

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Speaker 2: I'm really not very confident here, but I do think

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Speaker 1: What's Michigan's best win at this point that you think

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Speaker 1: I think Michigan. Michigan's strength of performance is higher. They've

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Speaker 1: There's more of a variety to Michigan State. If that's

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Speaker 1: This is a belief system matchup for me. Michigan State

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Speaker 1: Aiden Hutchinson is absolutely an All American caliber edge guy,

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Speaker 1: I think Michigan is a very good team. This is

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think we're in agreement. I think we're in agreement.

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Speaker 2: I don't know if I feel as strongly one way

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Speaker 2: in some places. Again, we're recording this early on Tuesday.

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Speaker 2: Let's move on, let's stay in the big ten and

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Speaker 2: let's talk about another noon or this one on ESPN

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Speaker 2: between Iowa and Wisconsin. We did a spoof video. You

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Speaker 2: did a spoof video of this out in our YouTube

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Speaker 2: What was the premise behind that?

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Speaker 1: I created a nature film between the Bajaer and the

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Speaker 1: Hakai tribes. This was I'm still Kirk Ferens. This is

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Speaker 1: JJ watt Era Wisconsin Repilama Arrow, Wisconsin in a close

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Speaker 2: It feels like this is going to be close and

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Speaker 2: physical again, doesn't it? It certainly does it certainly does now.

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Speaker 2: Iowa won twenty eight to seven last year, they broke

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Speaker 2: a four game skid. The over under in this game

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Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know what the weather's like. I

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Speaker 1: that feels about right. I think we're at the point now,

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Speaker 2: Doesn't look like there's any rain wind. It looks like

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Speaker 2: This game is essentially that meme of the two Spider

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Speaker 2: Men pointing at each other. Yeah, it really is. It's

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Speaker 2: too awesome defenses with bad offenses, and there are subtle

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Speaker 2: They've created turnover after turnover after turnover. They've been very

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Speaker 2: short field that's been their mo On the Wisconsin side,

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Speaker 2: they're tied for second worst in the country. They've shot

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Speaker 1: Right.

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Speaker 2: So that's where we're at with these two teams. My

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Speaker 2: do my my own bit of punting, as there will

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Speaker 2: be a fair amount of that in this football game, right,

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Speaker 2: But I think it's three points one way or the other.

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Speaker 2: Like I don't have a particular lean, I guess Iowa's

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Speaker 2: If you're forced me to pick a winner, I'll go Iowa.

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Speaker 2: But if you're forced me to pick against the spread,

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Speaker 2: I'm just gonna take whoever gets the points, So iowall

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Speaker 2: plus the three. They're a little bit better this year,

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Speaker 2: creating their own luck. I think they win, but it's

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Speaker 1: They have a recent common opponent in Purdue, of course,

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Speaker 1: time you checked three points, So Wisconsin favor by three,

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Speaker 1: Pizzas the Hut thought. I don't think anybody out Hawkeye

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Speaker 2: Nobody Pizzas the Hut.

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Speaker 1: I love them Pizza Hut, nobody out Hawkeys the Hawks,

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Speaker 1: and so given recent history between these two, Graham Hertz

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Speaker 1: I like Iowa here, I really do. I Wisconsin hasn't

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Speaker 1: done a lot to convince me that what their early season,

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Speaker 1: I mean, I like the bounce back against Army and Purdue,

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Speaker 2: Why is Wisconsin favored?

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Speaker 1: I mean, they're playing at home, they played relatively decent

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Speaker 2: I mean, I don't know. I just I would have

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Speaker 2: I really struggled with this one as well. I feel

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Speaker 1: I picked against Iowa and they kept winning, and now

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Speaker 1: I'm picking Iowa. I'm sorry, Hawks. If I have any

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Speaker 2: Let's jump over to the three point thirty block on CBS.

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Speaker 2: It's the world's largest outdoor cocktail party. Dan, Yeah, this

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Speaker 1: Just out of Kirolla's records, out Tyler, you gotta throw

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Speaker 2: We got Georgia, the number one team in the country.

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Speaker 2: They're a fourteen point favorite squaring off in Jacksonville against

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Speaker 2: the Florida Gators now Florida one. This game a year ago,

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Speaker 2: forty four to twenty eight, they broke a three game

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Speaker 2: He did something to his shoulder in that game. Then

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Speaker 2: and he wasn't all that good. So just commit that

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Speaker 1: My name is Montoya. I killed my father, prepared to die.

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Speaker 2: So Daniel, Yeah, my question for you is this. Can

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Speaker 1: Can they? Sure? I think this is a terrific iron

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Speaker 1: that game to this game. Georgia's defense is right now

432
00:22:20,200 --> 00:22:23,440
Speaker 1: on a historic pace. They're allowing point three seven points

433
00:22:23,440 --> 00:22:25,359
Speaker 1: per drive. I know there's no real reference point for

434
00:22:25,480 --> 00:22:28,320
Speaker 1: points per drive, but that's right now ahead of where

435
00:22:28,359 --> 00:22:30,800
Speaker 1: the twenty eleven Bama defense was over the course of

436
00:22:30,880 --> 00:22:37,399
Speaker 1: that National championship season. So I like Georgia. There is

437
00:22:37,640 --> 00:22:40,240
Speaker 1: more to like at this point. I know Dan Mullen

438
00:22:40,320 --> 00:22:43,879
Speaker 1: has this team ready usually for the team's biggest games.

439
00:22:44,680 --> 00:22:47,879
Speaker 1: Didn't in Baton Rouge. Definitely didn't in Baton Rouge. I'm

440
00:22:47,880 --> 00:22:50,040
Speaker 1: worried about Emory Jones. I'm worried about the turnovers and

441
00:22:50,080 --> 00:22:52,240
Speaker 1: offense especially. I mean, that game had what four picks?

442
00:22:52,680 --> 00:22:57,520
Speaker 1: Those Ells he used defense, those Ls use defense. Unbeknownst

443
00:22:57,560 --> 00:23:02,040
Speaker 1: to some of us, that was a team that won

444
00:23:02,080 --> 00:23:05,040
Speaker 1: in all phases in that game. So I'm going with

445
00:23:05,040 --> 00:23:09,280
Speaker 1: Georgia here. I'm going with the stronger team who has performed. Now,

446
00:23:09,320 --> 00:23:11,479
Speaker 1: this is not a hugely explosive offense, but they've got

447
00:23:11,520 --> 00:23:13,520
Speaker 1: you know, Brock Bauers has been everywhere for this team,

448
00:23:13,880 --> 00:23:17,400
Speaker 1: especially impressive given how young he is, a backup quarterback,

449
00:23:17,480 --> 00:23:20,920
Speaker 1: same quarterback we played against Florida last year. But I

450
00:23:21,040 --> 00:23:25,080
Speaker 1: think Georgia's defense is too excellent at this point. There

451
00:23:25,119 --> 00:23:28,280
Speaker 1: are guys, there are dudes on Florida's offense. I just

452
00:23:28,359 --> 00:23:32,040
Speaker 1: think you're either counting on somebody who is uneven most

453
00:23:32,080 --> 00:23:35,359
Speaker 1: of the time in Emery Jones, or still a little

454
00:23:35,680 --> 00:23:38,480
Speaker 1: raw and green. And it has been beat up this

455
00:23:38,600 --> 00:23:42,399
Speaker 1: year and Anthony Richardson, and I just I think you

456
00:23:42,560 --> 00:23:45,880
Speaker 1: need to be hitting on everything to beat this Georgia team.

457
00:23:46,000 --> 00:23:49,280
Speaker 1: And so I mean, what's the last number you saw

458
00:23:49,600 --> 00:23:55,080
Speaker 1: in this one? Yeah, I just especially given the recruiting implications,

459
00:23:55,119 --> 00:23:59,120
Speaker 1: between these two programs. I don't think Kirby, if Georgia

460
00:23:59,240 --> 00:24:02,360
Speaker 1: is clearly ahead, is going to let his foot off

461
00:24:02,400 --> 00:24:04,600
Speaker 1: the gas. So yeah, I have Georgia winning this game

462
00:24:04,600 --> 00:24:05,919
Speaker 1: by eighteen to twenty one points.

463
00:24:06,320 --> 00:24:07,960
Speaker 2: I'm tempted to take Florida outright.

464
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Speaker 1: Okay, Now, what are you worried about Georgia's resume? That

465
00:24:16,160 --> 00:24:19,000
Speaker 1: they've performed admirably against teams they should perform against. But

466
00:24:19,080 --> 00:24:21,680
Speaker 1: we don't have a sample, We don't have a data

467
00:24:21,720 --> 00:24:25,040
Speaker 1: point against a top tier squad. Where are you with that?

468
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Speaker 2: I am not worried from that standpoint. Okay, I'm not

469
00:24:29,200 --> 00:24:32,920
Speaker 2: really worried much about Georgia. What worries me is that

470
00:24:33,119 --> 00:24:38,000
Speaker 2: Florida has that crazy guy in the fight vibe to them. Okay,

471
00:24:38,280 --> 00:24:40,720
Speaker 2: but I thought a lot about Gary Sheffield, former Yankee,

472
00:24:40,800 --> 00:24:42,119
Speaker 2: former everybody, He played for everybody.

473
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Speaker 1: Yep.

474
00:24:44,520 --> 00:24:46,359
Speaker 2: Gary Sheffield was the kind of guy that if there

475
00:24:46,440 --> 00:24:48,560
Speaker 2: was a bench clearing brawl, you wanted him on your side.

476
00:24:48,840 --> 00:24:51,440
Speaker 2: He also didn't know what he was gonna do, right,

477
00:24:52,119 --> 00:24:54,280
Speaker 2: And I feel that way a little bit about Florida. Now.

478
00:24:54,320 --> 00:24:57,120
Speaker 2: It's a different team than it was a year ago.

479
00:24:57,200 --> 00:24:59,920
Speaker 2: The personnel has turned over, you know, almost in total

480
00:25:00,400 --> 00:25:03,640
Speaker 2: on offense, and frankly, we don't know who the quarterback

481
00:25:03,720 --> 00:25:05,000
Speaker 2: is going to be. My guess is we're going to

482
00:25:05,040 --> 00:25:09,200
Speaker 2: see both, right, But we've seen a couple teams now

483
00:25:09,359 --> 00:25:13,960
Speaker 2: with decent offenses in the SEC get a few bites

484
00:25:13,960 --> 00:25:16,160
Speaker 2: at the Apple against the Georgia defense, and no one's

485
00:25:16,200 --> 00:25:20,120
Speaker 2: really gotten anywhere. Right. We had Arkansas getting shut out,

486
00:25:20,240 --> 00:25:23,760
Speaker 2: we had Auburn, Auburn had him at home. They only

487
00:25:23,840 --> 00:25:27,040
Speaker 2: managed ten points. Kentucky got to thirteen. Thirteen has been

488
00:25:27,080 --> 00:25:27,880
Speaker 2: the high water mark.

489
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Speaker 1: YEP.

490
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Speaker 2: I feel like Florida's got enough firepower to get over

491
00:25:31,320 --> 00:25:35,160
Speaker 2: that thirteen hump, no doubt about it. No, I don't

492
00:25:35,160 --> 00:25:38,640
Speaker 2: think that's a stretch. And I think Dan Mullen has

493
00:25:38,760 --> 00:25:42,520
Speaker 2: that same quality to him to this team. He's imprinted

494
00:25:42,600 --> 00:25:45,480
Speaker 2: it on the culture of this Florida team in the

495
00:25:45,560 --> 00:25:47,720
Speaker 2: same way that your Oregon Ducks kind of play up

496
00:25:47,760 --> 00:25:50,800
Speaker 2: for big games. I feel like Dan Mullen's got a

497
00:25:50,840 --> 00:25:52,920
Speaker 2: little bit of that going on in Gainesville. It happened

498
00:25:52,920 --> 00:25:55,200
Speaker 2: against Alabama, it happened last year in this game.

499
00:25:55,720 --> 00:25:57,520
Speaker 1: Happened in the second half of the Tennessee game. They

500
00:25:57,560 --> 00:25:58,480
Speaker 1: really showed up. Yep.

501
00:25:58,960 --> 00:26:00,440
Speaker 2: So I think They're going to show up, and I

502
00:26:00,520 --> 00:26:02,680
Speaker 2: don't expect they're going to get blown out, and I

503
00:26:02,760 --> 00:26:05,240
Speaker 2: do think they'll find a way to keep this one

504
00:26:05,280 --> 00:26:09,119
Speaker 2: relatively tight in a rivalry game. To say that Florida

505
00:26:09,160 --> 00:26:12,760
Speaker 2: wins outright is a huge stretch. That's why I'm only

506
00:26:12,840 --> 00:26:14,200
Speaker 2: tempted on actually.

507
00:26:14,440 --> 00:26:17,240
Speaker 1: Where are they actually scoring the points to threaten a

508
00:26:17,320 --> 00:26:21,160
Speaker 1: win through the air, on the ground, just fully balanced

509
00:26:21,240 --> 00:26:23,560
Speaker 1: where like, because you have to have some sort of

510
00:26:23,760 --> 00:26:26,240
Speaker 1: intuition with where they're coming from, because I don't know

511
00:26:26,280 --> 00:26:27,960
Speaker 1: how many points do you think Florida needs to score

512
00:26:28,000 --> 00:26:31,520
Speaker 1: to be Georgia, But it's probably like twenty four something like.

513
00:26:31,560 --> 00:26:35,919
Speaker 2: That right right now. I think the versatility at quarterback

514
00:26:36,840 --> 00:26:38,720
Speaker 2: is something that I'm very interested in now. I know

515
00:26:39,520 --> 00:26:41,720
Speaker 2: some of these other teams that have discussed also have that.

516
00:26:42,480 --> 00:26:44,240
Speaker 2: All right, Florida is not the only one, but I

517
00:26:44,320 --> 00:26:47,600
Speaker 2: trust Dan Mullen as an offensive play caller to find

518
00:26:48,320 --> 00:26:50,639
Speaker 2: some of that nuance that they can use to their advantage.

519
00:26:51,480 --> 00:26:55,080
Speaker 2: Nobody thought they'd be in the neighborhood of Alabama either,

520
00:26:55,680 --> 00:26:58,040
Speaker 2: and that was a pretty close game, and they look

521
00:26:58,080 --> 00:26:59,640
Speaker 2: good in this game of year ago. I just feel

522
00:26:59,680 --> 00:27:02,160
Speaker 2: like he's a big game Hunter. I feel like he's

523
00:27:02,160 --> 00:27:06,359
Speaker 2: a big game hunter. He gets Florida ready, I'm taking

524
00:27:06,440 --> 00:27:10,479
Speaker 2: them plus the points. I also think that the LSU

525
00:27:10,600 --> 00:27:14,399
Speaker 2: game was a bit of an emotional dagger, and it's

526
00:27:14,440 --> 00:27:16,520
Speaker 2: certainly not a great sign that they were eaten alive

527
00:27:16,640 --> 00:27:18,600
Speaker 2: by ty Davis Price and the Amanda that they were

528
00:27:18,760 --> 00:27:23,040
Speaker 2: not going up against Georgia, which has shown great applom

529
00:27:23,119 --> 00:27:28,800
Speaker 2: at running the football. Right, Yeah, but I don't know.

530
00:27:28,880 --> 00:27:30,320
Speaker 2: I have a lot of faith in Dan Mullen here

531
00:27:30,359 --> 00:27:33,240
Speaker 2: plus the points, So I'm going Florida plus fourteen.

532
00:27:34,600 --> 00:27:38,920
Speaker 1: All right. Uh, I just don't believe Kyle Pitts or

533
00:27:38,960 --> 00:27:41,520
Speaker 1: Kadarius Tony is walking through that door for Florida.

534
00:27:41,600 --> 00:27:42,560
Speaker 2: They most certainly are not.

535
00:27:43,600 --> 00:27:46,080
Speaker 1: Or Kyle Trask. Yeah, I just I think it's a

536
00:27:46,119 --> 00:27:46,920
Speaker 1: worse Florida team.

537
00:27:47,160 --> 00:27:52,680
Speaker 2: So somebody's gotta test Georgia this year, and if it's

538
00:27:52,760 --> 00:27:54,480
Speaker 2: not Alabama at the end of the year in the

539
00:27:54,600 --> 00:27:58,959
Speaker 2: SEC Championship, the only other team, well, I guess Tennessee

540
00:27:59,040 --> 00:28:01,399
Speaker 2: could as well, but I think the most obvious is Florida,

541
00:28:02,080 --> 00:28:03,560
Speaker 2: and I think they will be up for this year,

542
00:28:03,760 --> 00:28:06,320
Speaker 2: especially on the heels of what happened in that LSU debacle.

543
00:28:07,080 --> 00:28:10,639
Speaker 1: This is George's likeliest loss until the SEC Championship game.

544
00:28:10,680 --> 00:28:12,680
Speaker 1: I think we're on the same page with that. But yeah,

545
00:28:12,680 --> 00:28:15,240
Speaker 1: I just it's hard for me as I have my

546
00:28:15,840 --> 00:28:18,480
Speaker 1: detective brush and I'm clear in the room and trying

547
00:28:18,480 --> 00:28:22,320
Speaker 1: to find Prince. I just I'm not seeing it. It's

548
00:28:22,359 --> 00:28:24,960
Speaker 1: hard for me to find how it actually operates. A

549
00:28:25,119 --> 00:28:28,080
Speaker 1: Florida keeping it close, putting themselves in position to win

550
00:28:28,160 --> 00:28:30,320
Speaker 1: like they did against Alabama. But perhaps I'm wrong.

551
00:28:31,119 --> 00:28:34,480
Speaker 2: Seven pm on ESPN, We've got Old Miss on the

552
00:28:34,600 --> 00:28:38,200
Speaker 2: road at Auburn. Auburn's won the last five. They won

553
00:28:38,320 --> 00:28:43,400
Speaker 2: thirty five, twenty eight. Last year. Ole Miss was favored initially,

554
00:28:43,480 --> 00:28:46,600
Speaker 2: but the point spread shifted and now it is Auburn

555
00:28:47,240 --> 00:28:50,800
Speaker 2: minus two and a half minus three depending where you look.

556
00:28:51,080 --> 00:28:52,960
Speaker 2: It's been a hell of a run here for ole Miss.

557
00:28:53,240 --> 00:28:56,240
Speaker 2: Let's give them credit. In October, they were at BAMA

558
00:28:56,520 --> 00:28:59,880
Speaker 2: home against Arkansas, they were at Tennessee home against LSU,

559
00:29:01,040 --> 00:29:03,320
Speaker 2: and now they're at Auburn. The fact that they're three

560
00:29:03,400 --> 00:29:06,520
Speaker 2: to one through the month of October is damn impressive,

561
00:29:06,920 --> 00:29:09,080
Speaker 2: and it's probably part of the reason why Lane Kiffin's

562
00:29:09,120 --> 00:29:11,080
Speaker 2: got a little bit of steam on him. Potentially as

563
00:29:11,120 --> 00:29:15,160
Speaker 2: the next coach at LSU. Sure, we'll see where that goes.

564
00:29:15,360 --> 00:29:17,960
Speaker 2: Don't know if I fully buy that, but Lane's done

565
00:29:17,960 --> 00:29:21,400
Speaker 2: a really good job with this ole Miss team. They

566
00:29:21,440 --> 00:29:23,280
Speaker 2: are led by Matt Corral. They are up to number

567
00:29:23,320 --> 00:29:25,719
Speaker 2: ten in the country. Do you buy ole Miss as

568
00:29:25,760 --> 00:29:30,440
Speaker 2: the tenth best team in the country? Not fully?

569
00:29:30,720 --> 00:29:36,440
Speaker 1: Why I'm worried about the defense week over week over

570
00:29:36,520 --> 00:29:39,600
Speaker 1: the course of the season, they are pretty good. Ole

571
00:29:39,640 --> 00:29:41,480
Speaker 1: Miss is pretty good in getting after the quarterback, but

572
00:29:41,600 --> 00:29:45,920
Speaker 1: they just I don't know, they've been decent preventing big plays.

573
00:29:46,040 --> 00:29:48,600
Speaker 1: But against the like I think a team can slow

574
00:29:48,840 --> 00:29:51,320
Speaker 1: the game down against them and keep the offense off

575
00:29:51,360 --> 00:29:53,520
Speaker 1: the field. And I actually think Auburn is the team

576
00:29:53,640 --> 00:29:56,560
Speaker 1: to do it. I think they're specifically built with those

577
00:29:56,600 --> 00:30:01,200
Speaker 1: two running backs. With bo Nicks and his I think

578
00:30:01,480 --> 00:30:03,680
Speaker 1: I'm a believer in his evolution this year. I think

579
00:30:03,840 --> 00:30:06,400
Speaker 1: even though the receiving core isn't amazing for Auburn, I

580
00:30:06,400 --> 00:30:08,600
Speaker 1: think there's going to be play action opportunities to be had.

581
00:30:09,320 --> 00:30:12,120
Speaker 1: And I just think this run of teams for ole

582
00:30:12,200 --> 00:30:15,960
Speaker 1: Miss right, So it's ole Miss having Alabama, Arkansas, Tennessee

583
00:30:16,240 --> 00:30:20,200
Speaker 1: LSU consecutively ahead of this Auburn game on the road.

584
00:30:20,880 --> 00:30:22,480
Speaker 1: I think it's sort of a something's got to give

585
00:30:22,600 --> 00:30:26,240
Speaker 1: situation where Matt Carral's beat up and look, he was

586
00:30:26,560 --> 00:30:28,760
Speaker 1: showed a lot of heart last week and in gutting

587
00:30:28,800 --> 00:30:31,960
Speaker 1: ole Miss to that win. I'm just I'm not there

588
00:30:32,320 --> 00:30:35,480
Speaker 1: with ole Miss's ability on the road yet, with that

589
00:30:35,640 --> 00:30:37,720
Speaker 1: defense especially, I think it's gonna be a fun game.

590
00:30:37,920 --> 00:30:40,120
Speaker 1: But I think Auburn situationally is in a good place.

591
00:30:40,200 --> 00:30:42,600
Speaker 1: And I think there's a reason when this game was

592
00:30:42,640 --> 00:30:45,960
Speaker 1: at ole Miss minus one, I loved Auburn right at home,

593
00:30:46,280 --> 00:30:48,440
Speaker 1: with an improved quarterback, with a defense who has been

594
00:30:48,440 --> 00:30:50,880
Speaker 1: pretty good at getting after the passer. I still like

595
00:30:50,920 --> 00:30:53,240
Speaker 1: Auburn here. I still think situationally, it's the play.

596
00:30:54,280 --> 00:30:57,760
Speaker 2: I'm on Auburn here as well. I think there's a

597
00:30:57,840 --> 00:31:00,960
Speaker 2: question about what's in the tank for Olbiss. Sure, I've

598
00:31:01,000 --> 00:31:03,560
Speaker 2: asked that a few times now through the month of October,

599
00:31:03,880 --> 00:31:07,440
Speaker 2: but they've held up pretty well. I'm going to try

600
00:31:07,480 --> 00:31:09,640
Speaker 2: the same logic it did last week when Old Miss

601
00:31:09,680 --> 00:31:14,560
Speaker 2: played LSU. Auburn should be able to run elis you

602
00:31:14,640 --> 00:31:17,200
Speaker 2: didn't a week ago, but Auburn should be able to

603
00:31:18,280 --> 00:31:20,160
Speaker 2: They should be able to, and I agree with you.

604
00:31:20,240 --> 00:31:23,160
Speaker 2: If we get good bow Nicks, if the bovolution is

605
00:31:23,240 --> 00:31:27,000
Speaker 2: a thing, don't do that. It poses a real problem

606
00:31:27,160 --> 00:31:29,520
Speaker 2: for this Old Miss defense, which isn't really much of

607
00:31:29,560 --> 00:31:33,120
Speaker 2: a defense. I think you're right to question whether number

608
00:31:33,160 --> 00:31:35,640
Speaker 2: ten is the right ranking. Now, look, everybody's got flaws

609
00:31:35,720 --> 00:31:38,880
Speaker 2: this year, so the rankings outside of maybe the top five,

610
00:31:39,640 --> 00:31:43,960
Speaker 2: as in most years, are kind of meaningless. But in

611
00:31:44,040 --> 00:31:45,800
Speaker 2: the land of the blind, the one eyed man's king,

612
00:31:45,880 --> 00:31:48,360
Speaker 2: so we'll give them their due. Sure ten is fine.

613
00:31:50,040 --> 00:31:51,600
Speaker 2: I don't want to give the impression that I'm looking

614
00:31:51,640 --> 00:31:53,720
Speaker 2: to bet against Old Miss, because I'm not. They're a

615
00:31:53,760 --> 00:31:57,720
Speaker 2: really good football team. But I do feel like I

616
00:31:57,960 --> 00:32:01,200
Speaker 2: like and trust Auburn a little bit more at this juncture,

617
00:32:01,320 --> 00:32:03,040
Speaker 2: so I think I'm with you. I loved it when

618
00:32:03,080 --> 00:32:06,000
Speaker 2: they were getting points at home, yep, the fact that

619
00:32:06,120 --> 00:32:08,800
Speaker 2: it's still less than a field goal in most places

620
00:32:08,880 --> 00:32:10,800
Speaker 2: for people playing run the board. I think we threw

621
00:32:10,840 --> 00:32:13,880
Speaker 2: this game on there. I really like Auburn in that spot.

622
00:32:14,120 --> 00:32:18,280
Speaker 2: I really like Auburn in that spot. We agree, We

623
00:32:18,360 --> 00:32:19,840
Speaker 2: do agree. The other thing I want to mention it,

624
00:32:20,080 --> 00:32:23,120
Speaker 2: I'd be misfited to mention it because who knows if

625
00:32:23,160 --> 00:32:25,960
Speaker 2: it could end up being another story kind of in

626
00:32:26,000 --> 00:32:27,760
Speaker 2: the same vein. We don't need to color it any

627
00:32:27,840 --> 00:32:31,200
Speaker 2: one way or the other. But Auburn mandated a vaccine.

628
00:32:31,520 --> 00:32:34,120
Speaker 2: Brian Harrison's been quiet. He's been a little bit reluctant

629
00:32:34,160 --> 00:32:39,000
Speaker 2: to say where he stands on that, both personally and

630
00:32:39,800 --> 00:32:43,640
Speaker 2: I guess more broadly from the perspective of his team

631
00:32:43,720 --> 00:32:46,400
Speaker 2: and coaches and whatnot. So whether or not that becomes

632
00:32:46,480 --> 00:32:48,360
Speaker 2: a story remains to be seen, but just something to

633
00:32:48,400 --> 00:32:49,160
Speaker 2: put on your radar.

634
00:32:49,680 --> 00:32:52,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I guess it's a complicated story now

635
00:32:52,040 --> 00:32:55,160
Speaker 1: because the governor of Alabama has decided that she is

636
00:32:55,400 --> 00:32:59,920
Speaker 1: advising in the the state is advising places to ignore

637
00:33:00,200 --> 00:33:03,360
Speaker 1: vaccine mandate. So I don't honestly know what his options

638
00:33:03,480 --> 00:33:06,360
Speaker 1: or his situation is right now. But yeah, you're right,

639
00:33:06,440 --> 00:33:09,840
Speaker 1: it's it's worth paying attention to. But somehow, I imagine

640
00:33:09,840 --> 00:33:10,840
Speaker 1: that's sort of gonna go away.

641
00:33:11,120 --> 00:33:13,240
Speaker 2: Yep, thirty one to twenty eight is my final score.

642
00:33:13,320 --> 00:33:15,160
Speaker 2: I've got Auburn. I think it's a fun game as well.

643
00:33:15,680 --> 00:33:18,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, I have something like thirty one twenty four, thirty

644
00:33:18,440 --> 00:33:19,840
Speaker 1: to twenty four. I think it's gonna be a good one.

645
00:33:20,280 --> 00:33:22,800
Speaker 2: Seven pm ESPN two. Here's one that we got to

646
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Speaker 2: talk about. Talk about SMU and Houston. Let's these teams

647
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Speaker 2: last met in twenty nineteen. SMU won a fun one

648
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Speaker 2: thirty four to thirty one. I totally get why this

649
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Speaker 2: is a Pickham. I have absolutely zero lean one way

650
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Speaker 2: or the other. I do. SMU's got the better offense,

651
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Speaker 2: Houston the better defense. I think I'm going to stick

652
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Speaker 2: with SMU, if only from like I don't know, a

653
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Speaker 2: fans perspective. I want to see SMU undefeated when they

654
00:33:53,800 --> 00:33:56,920
Speaker 2: play Cincinnati second to last week of the year. Right,

655
00:33:57,080 --> 00:33:59,800
Speaker 2: they've been playing well. I do trust in Tanner Mordecai

656
00:34:00,000 --> 00:34:03,240
Speaker 2: and having a great season. It pains me a little

657
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Speaker 2: bit because I was very high on Houston before the

658
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Speaker 2: start of the year, and I felt like this was

659
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Speaker 2: the year that Dana Holgerson could start to put it together,

660
00:34:10,320 --> 00:34:12,799
Speaker 2: and we've seen that bear a little bit of fruit.

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Speaker 2: But I'm just I'm kind of hung up on SMU here,

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Speaker 2: So let's go Mustangs.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm going to Houston. I fully disagree. I'm going

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Speaker 1: to go with a good defense at home, and SMU's

665
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Speaker 1: defense has been disappointing, especially on the road SMU is

666
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Speaker 1: a terrific story. I think Houston with a pretty good offense,

667
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Speaker 1: but a strong defense, a strong pass rush, a strong

668
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Speaker 1: ability to prevent big plays. I think the matchup works

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Speaker 1: pretty well for the Cougar specifically, but well for me

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Speaker 1: as well. So yeah, I'm going Houston here. I'm just

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Speaker 1: a bigger believer in I mean, Houston at home. I guess.

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Speaker 1: I mean. The offense isn't amazing, Let's be clear, like

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Speaker 1: the Houston's offense, it's very strange that a Dana Holgerson

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Speaker 1: team has struggled to pop.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's weird that we're talking about a hol Go defense. Yeah,

676
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Speaker 2: in place of a hul Go offense.

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Speaker 1: Correct. But they get after the quarterback, they tackle soundly.

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Speaker 1: I just those are like the qualities that I look

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Speaker 1: for when I go back and forth. I just saw

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Speaker 1: some advanced site that the tackle success rate is twelfth

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Speaker 1: in the nation. That's what I care about. I care

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Speaker 1: about keeping the score low enough to give your offense

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Speaker 1: a chance. So I'm going Houston here at home.

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Speaker 2: Seven thirty ABC. This is the biggin' maybe Penn State

685
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Speaker 2: at Ohio State. Ohio State favored by nineteen points.

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Speaker 1: It's a lot.

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Speaker 2: Boy. Okay, all right, Ohio State on a four game

688
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Speaker 2: winning streak here they won thirty eight to twenty five

689
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Speaker 2: last season. Nineteen is a very big number. It makes

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Speaker 2: a lot of sense to me. If anything, I still

691
00:35:54,600 --> 00:35:55,960
Speaker 2: do wonder if it's a little too low.

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Speaker 1: Wait, you wonder if nineteen is too low? I do.

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Speaker 1: I do. If you're wondering if nineteen is too low

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Speaker 1: between two ranked teams, what's Penn State's current ranking? It

695
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Speaker 1: doesn't mean Okay, then you are a believer, as I

696
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Speaker 1: alluded to earlier on in the show, that Penn State

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Speaker 1: has serious collapse potential.

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Speaker 2: I believe there is serious collapse potential here.

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Speaker 1: I mean they did just lose in nine overtimes to Illinois,

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Speaker 1: scoring ten points in regulation and allowing damn near four

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Speaker 1: hundred yards on the ground to the Allian I I

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Speaker 1: hear you, but damn, okay, continue, no, you go first.

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Speaker 2: I do believe there is significant collapse potential here. Okay.

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Speaker 1: So I have Penn State highlighted as a team to

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Speaker 1: cover in this game, and then then I got rid

706
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Speaker 1: of it, and then I put it again, and then

707
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Speaker 1: I got rid of it. It's a big number when

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Speaker 1: you're circling around three touchdowns. So Penn State here's where

709
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Speaker 1: they are right now. They have a beat up quarterback

710
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Speaker 1: in Sean Clifford, who has not been able to do

711
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Speaker 1: much since early on in that Iowa game. Physically, he's

712
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Speaker 1: practiced some, and obviously he played in that Illinois game,

713
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Speaker 1: but was not a game changer by any stretch in

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Speaker 1: that game. Even earlier on in the season he had

715
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Speaker 1: long droughts. He's clearly the best option Penn State has

716
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Speaker 1: at quarterback. They have good receiving options. Penn State doesn't

717
00:37:12,560 --> 00:37:15,040
Speaker 1: run the ball. Penn State is down as PJ Musta

718
00:37:15,080 --> 00:37:16,720
Speaker 1: for their best defensive lineman.

719
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Speaker 2: He was their most reliable.

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Speaker 1: For sure, they're most reliable. He's in the conversation and

721
00:37:21,719 --> 00:37:24,680
Speaker 1: so all we know about Ohio State in terms of

722
00:37:24,760 --> 00:37:27,800
Speaker 1: vulnerability was well when Krie Coombs is calling the defense,

723
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Speaker 1: they weren't able to just especially against the run. Penn

724
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Speaker 1: State is not beating anybody on the ground this year.

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Speaker 1: I like their running backs. I think their offensive line

726
00:37:36,120 --> 00:37:39,560
Speaker 1: has been okay protecting Sean Clifford. We just haven't seen

727
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Speaker 1: this Penn State offensive line put it all together in

728
00:37:42,719 --> 00:37:48,680
Speaker 1: a game this year. So I'm leading Ohio State. I

729
00:37:48,760 --> 00:37:50,719
Speaker 1: don't think Ohio State is a perfect team. I still

730
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Speaker 1: think they're vulnerable on defense. I just don't think Penn

731
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Speaker 1: State is the team to do it.

732
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Speaker 2: Now.

733
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Speaker 1: We're talking about a healthy Sean Clifford. We're talking about

734
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Speaker 1: a replacement level rushing attack. I would take the points here,

735
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Speaker 1: maybe that at that moment it's a fourteen point. I

736
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Speaker 1: don't know whatever. I'm gonna give the points. I'm gonna

737
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Speaker 1: give the Ohio State points. The weather it's supposed to

738
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Speaker 1: be a little bit wet, a little bit damp, a

739
00:38:11,160 --> 00:38:14,480
Speaker 1: little bit moist. I apologize, but I don't. The issue

740
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Speaker 1: to me is Penn State is so good in their

741
00:38:17,400 --> 00:38:20,359
Speaker 1: secondary preventing those big plays. Now, who have they played

742
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Speaker 1: that's capable. I don't know. Right, this is tough, man,

743
00:38:25,600 --> 00:38:27,880
Speaker 1: it's not. You are closer to the situation.

744
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Speaker 2: It's not tough. This.

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Speaker 1: I do like betting against collapse potential. I'm gonna go

746
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Speaker 1: Ohio State. Let's say thirty eight fourteen.

747
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Speaker 2: I think you've got the right points. I think you're

748
00:38:41,719 --> 00:38:43,480
Speaker 2: hung up on the number. Don't be hung up on

749
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Speaker 2: the number. Okay, Sean Clifford is hurt, Yeah, he's hurt.

750
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Speaker 2: It was apparent last week. He's not sandbagging. Okay, he's hurt,

751
00:38:51,960 --> 00:38:54,560
Speaker 2: and he is their best option when he's hurt, right,

752
00:38:54,719 --> 00:38:56,600
Speaker 2: he'll be juiced up for this game. The kid plays

753
00:38:56,640 --> 00:38:58,960
Speaker 2: with a ton of heart. He's a fighter out there.

754
00:38:59,600 --> 00:39:02,480
Speaker 2: He's gonna do his best. But I think he's hurt,

755
00:39:02,760 --> 00:39:04,480
Speaker 2: and Ohio State knows he's hurt because they watched the

756
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Speaker 2: tape the same way you and I watched the game.

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Speaker 1: Mm hmm.

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Speaker 2: That's not good for Penn State's offense. The second point

759
00:39:10,880 --> 00:39:13,560
Speaker 2: you brought it up as well, Penn State can't run

760
00:39:13,600 --> 00:39:18,160
Speaker 2: the ball. Yeah, there's no complimentary run game for Penn State.

761
00:39:18,680 --> 00:39:20,920
Speaker 2: There hasn't been all year. And it's not like they're

762
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Speaker 2: just gonna find it outside Ohio Stadium and like, oh,

763
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Speaker 2: maybe we'll try the it. They don't have it. They

764
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Speaker 2: have not been able to put it together. I don't

765
00:39:29,280 --> 00:39:32,040
Speaker 2: understand how or why, because they've got a ton of

766
00:39:32,080 --> 00:39:34,879
Speaker 2: potential at the running backspot, but they just haven't done

767
00:39:34,920 --> 00:39:38,399
Speaker 2: it and so you can't count on it. And finally, last,

768
00:39:38,440 --> 00:39:42,120
Speaker 2: but certainly not least, Ohio States looked like one of

769
00:39:42,160 --> 00:39:44,760
Speaker 2: the best teams in the country the last couple of weeks. Granted,

770
00:39:44,880 --> 00:39:49,280
Speaker 2: maybe not against the best competition. Sure, but since CJ.

771
00:39:49,440 --> 00:39:52,600
Speaker 2: Stroud rested his shoulder or whatever that was, they have

772
00:39:52,719 --> 00:39:55,480
Speaker 2: looked really solid across the board. Since they went over

773
00:39:55,600 --> 00:39:59,200
Speaker 2: Kerry Coomb's head and stop letting him call plays on defense,

774
00:39:59,200 --> 00:40:02,719
Speaker 2: they've looked really good. So we've got two teams that

775
00:40:02,800 --> 00:40:05,479
Speaker 2: I feel like are trending in opposite directions. Ohio State

776
00:40:06,040 --> 00:40:09,000
Speaker 2: trending up, Penn State if only by virtue of that

777
00:40:09,080 --> 00:40:13,120
Speaker 2: Illinois loss is trending down. That was a dagger. That

778
00:40:13,320 --> 00:40:16,839
Speaker 2: was an absolute dagger one week before Ohio State. Yeah,

779
00:40:17,040 --> 00:40:21,040
Speaker 2: thoroughly demoralizing. And so I think on top of that,

780
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Speaker 2: there are these rumors, these swirling rumors about James Franklin,

781
00:40:26,719 --> 00:40:29,200
Speaker 2: and I think where there's smoke, there's fire. He just

782
00:40:29,360 --> 00:40:31,799
Speaker 2: changed his agent. That was news. I think that's out

783
00:40:31,840 --> 00:40:34,920
Speaker 2: there now that he went to YEP. It is Jimmy Sexton,

784
00:40:35,000 --> 00:40:39,200
Speaker 2: the power broker. There are some openings out there that

785
00:40:39,320 --> 00:40:41,120
Speaker 2: I think could be of interest to Franklin. There have

786
00:40:41,200 --> 00:40:44,399
Speaker 2: been rumors forever that he's not happy for one reason

787
00:40:44,520 --> 00:40:46,520
Speaker 2: or another. None of these guys are ever happy. Really,

788
00:40:47,000 --> 00:40:49,800
Speaker 2: I agree, I'm starting to believe it. You want to

789
00:40:49,840 --> 00:40:53,520
Speaker 2: be happy for a day, Ty eat a steak. So

790
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Speaker 2: I'm just thinking we've got some headwind blowing from the

791
00:41:00,160 --> 00:41:03,920
Speaker 2: standpoint of the quarterback spot. We may have James Franklin

792
00:41:04,000 --> 00:41:06,200
Speaker 2: with a bit of a wandering eye. Now if he

793
00:41:06,239 --> 00:41:08,880
Speaker 2: loses by twenty one, that doesn't help his stock, no,

794
00:41:09,600 --> 00:41:11,440
Speaker 2: but he's not also not out there on the field.

795
00:41:12,280 --> 00:41:14,200
Speaker 2: I just feel like there is a lot of headwind

796
00:41:14,280 --> 00:41:17,960
Speaker 2: right now for Penn State, and with Ohio State trending

797
00:41:18,080 --> 00:41:21,440
Speaker 2: so favorably over the last couple of weeks, there is

798
00:41:21,560 --> 00:41:27,200
Speaker 2: potential here for a blowout, just a thorough bombing of

799
00:41:27,320 --> 00:41:31,640
Speaker 2: Penn State. And so I'm laying the points. I'm laying

800
00:41:31,680 --> 00:41:33,880
Speaker 2: the points, and I think there is potential here that

801
00:41:33,920 --> 00:41:35,880
Speaker 2: if Penn State goes out there, if they lose this

802
00:41:36,040 --> 00:41:39,480
Speaker 2: game by twenty one points, I think things could really

803
00:41:39,520 --> 00:41:40,239
Speaker 2: get sideways.

804
00:41:40,560 --> 00:41:42,600
Speaker 1: So the one thing I wonder about, though, because it

805
00:41:42,760 --> 00:41:44,799
Speaker 1: is a big number, is don't you feel that Penn

806
00:41:44,880 --> 00:41:48,160
Speaker 1: State's defense even last week, like only they allowed a

807
00:41:48,239 --> 00:41:50,080
Speaker 1: ton on the ground, of course, but they allowed ten

808
00:41:50,200 --> 00:41:52,759
Speaker 1: points in regulation. That's what you should win a game.

809
00:41:52,840 --> 00:41:55,160
Speaker 1: Your offense should give you enough, if fully healthy and whatever,

810
00:41:56,320 --> 00:41:58,359
Speaker 1: don't you I mean, this is still a really good

811
00:41:58,480 --> 00:42:00,640
Speaker 1: Penn State defense. It's still gonna be it's a great

812
00:42:00,680 --> 00:42:02,960
Speaker 1: Penn State defense, yeah, but it's gonna be tough to

813
00:42:03,000 --> 00:42:05,440
Speaker 1: score enough points. I understand the offense will get off

814
00:42:05,480 --> 00:42:07,440
Speaker 1: the field quickly or far too quickly if they're if

815
00:42:07,440 --> 00:42:09,520
Speaker 1: you know, Shan Clifford is just as beat up. Whatever,

816
00:42:09,640 --> 00:42:12,040
Speaker 1: it's gonna take some time. I understand all the potential

817
00:42:12,120 --> 00:42:16,080
Speaker 1: for collapse. I understand all of that. Penn State's offense

818
00:42:16,120 --> 00:42:19,000
Speaker 1: also hasn't have they scored thirty points again. They scored

819
00:42:19,160 --> 00:42:24,880
Speaker 1: ten in regulation against a team right, So I definitely

820
00:42:24,920 --> 00:42:28,680
Speaker 1: worry about that. But this is also like probably by far,

821
00:42:28,840 --> 00:42:31,600
Speaker 1: the most challenging defense Ohio State will face this year.

822
00:42:31,680 --> 00:42:34,920
Speaker 1: I still think they're going to play I get it.

823
00:42:35,960 --> 00:42:40,120
Speaker 2: I just I think there's more at play here, and

824
00:42:40,239 --> 00:42:43,360
Speaker 2: I feel I feel like there is a circling, the

825
00:42:43,480 --> 00:42:47,080
Speaker 2: draining quality to this Penn State season. I hope I'm wrong, Okay,

826
00:42:47,239 --> 00:42:50,400
Speaker 2: but nineteen's a big number, and I feel like Vegas

827
00:42:50,480 --> 00:42:52,920
Speaker 2: knows what it's doing. That's a big freaking number, and

828
00:42:53,000 --> 00:42:56,400
Speaker 2: it might not be big enough. So I was inclined

829
00:42:56,400 --> 00:42:59,640
Speaker 2: to lock up Ohio State here. Man. I don't know.

830
00:43:00,040 --> 00:43:02,480
Speaker 2: It's a big number, but I'm all in on the

831
00:43:02,520 --> 00:43:05,520
Speaker 2: Buckeyes here. I hope I'm wrong. I hope for a

832
00:43:05,600 --> 00:43:07,319
Speaker 2: close game. I would love nothing more as a Penn

833
00:43:07,360 --> 00:43:09,680
Speaker 2: State alum to see Penn State go out there and

834
00:43:09,760 --> 00:43:12,640
Speaker 2: compete and play with heart and keep this one closed.

835
00:43:12,680 --> 00:43:14,360
Speaker 2: But I just don't see it. I don't see anyway.

836
00:43:14,440 --> 00:43:16,320
Speaker 1: Do you see more success through the air or on

837
00:43:16,400 --> 00:43:17,839
Speaker 1: the ground for Ohio State.

838
00:43:18,160 --> 00:43:19,080
Speaker 2: Probably through the air.

839
00:43:19,800 --> 00:43:25,040
Speaker 1: Okay, they're not going to take that Illinois blueprint. Illinois,

840
00:43:25,080 --> 00:43:28,040
Speaker 1: by the way, not a great rushing team to be clear,

841
00:43:28,520 --> 00:43:31,080
Speaker 1: a very average rushing team this season that put it

842
00:43:31,120 --> 00:43:34,479
Speaker 1: all together last week in Happy Valley against Penn State.

843
00:43:34,960 --> 00:43:38,560
Speaker 1: Penn State has a passing defense has been very sound,

844
00:43:39,600 --> 00:43:40,279
Speaker 1: so free this year.

845
00:43:40,360 --> 00:43:42,439
Speaker 2: They've been really good. They're like a top five, top

846
00:43:42,520 --> 00:43:44,600
Speaker 2: ten passing defense, so they're very very good.

847
00:43:45,320 --> 00:43:48,400
Speaker 1: But it's Grammertz Bonex. They did a good job against

848
00:43:49,640 --> 00:43:53,520
Speaker 1: you know, the Jack Tuttle, Michael Pennox experiment. I believe

849
00:43:54,080 --> 00:43:58,400
Speaker 1: Spencer Petris and Artzkowski, like, I don't know what you

850
00:43:58,440 --> 00:44:01,280
Speaker 1: can glean from their record other than playing well against Bonick.

851
00:44:01,400 --> 00:44:03,080
Speaker 1: So yeah, it's tough.

852
00:44:03,680 --> 00:44:07,800
Speaker 2: I'm going Ohio State big collapse potential, it's there. It

853
00:44:07,920 --> 00:44:08,799
Speaker 2: is absolutely there.

854
00:44:09,400 --> 00:44:12,040
Speaker 1: Okay, you would not have to trust me. It is there. Yeah.

855
00:44:13,200 --> 00:44:17,160
Speaker 2: Twelve o'clock ABC, Texas at Baylor, Baylor favored by a

856
00:44:17,239 --> 00:44:18,520
Speaker 2: field goal at home.

857
00:44:19,280 --> 00:44:19,480
Speaker 1: Yeah.

858
00:44:20,480 --> 00:44:22,400
Speaker 2: I might be more interested in this one than Michigan

859
00:44:22,480 --> 00:44:23,040
Speaker 2: Michigan State.

860
00:44:23,360 --> 00:44:26,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, I can't wait for it. I like Baylor here

861
00:44:26,200 --> 00:44:28,960
Speaker 1: for whatever it's worth. I like where they're at on

862
00:44:29,080 --> 00:44:31,440
Speaker 1: defense a little bit more. And Texas has been kind

863
00:44:31,480 --> 00:44:33,200
Speaker 1: of a nightmare. One of the worst tackling teams in

864
00:44:33,239 --> 00:44:36,399
Speaker 1: the country. They don't get after the quarterback, and all

865
00:44:36,440 --> 00:44:39,200
Speaker 1: you really have to do to beat Texas is play

866
00:44:39,280 --> 00:44:42,560
Speaker 1: the final three quarters. Yeah, give to whether that first quarter.

867
00:44:42,640 --> 00:44:45,239
Speaker 1: One of the absolute most explosive teams early. They game

868
00:44:45,320 --> 00:44:48,200
Speaker 1: planned really, really well. But I think Baylor's balanced, and

869
00:44:48,280 --> 00:44:50,400
Speaker 1: I think I don't know if you play fantasy, but

870
00:44:50,440 --> 00:44:52,000
Speaker 1: I think Abram Smith should have a nice day. I

871
00:44:52,239 --> 00:44:53,000
Speaker 1: don't think he's hurt.

872
00:44:53,120 --> 00:44:56,600
Speaker 2: So, yeah, the numbers would tell. The numbers would tell

873
00:44:56,640 --> 00:44:59,520
Speaker 2: two very interesting stories of these teams. Baylor is just

874
00:44:59,640 --> 00:45:03,000
Speaker 2: kind of solid across the board. They're not spectacular anywhere,

875
00:45:03,000 --> 00:45:06,680
Speaker 2: but they're rock solid. On the Texas side, you can

876
00:45:06,760 --> 00:45:09,920
Speaker 2: see the highs and lows. They're very uneven, very inconsistent,

877
00:45:10,600 --> 00:45:13,360
Speaker 2: and so you've got a lot of boomer Bus potential

878
00:45:13,560 --> 00:45:16,640
Speaker 2: even within the same quarter. With this Texas team. We've

879
00:45:16,680 --> 00:45:18,560
Speaker 2: seen it, Yeah, we saw it a couple times already

880
00:45:18,640 --> 00:45:21,480
Speaker 2: this year. So I like taking the better, more reliable

881
00:45:21,520 --> 00:45:24,680
Speaker 2: team at home. I got Baylor minus the three, But

882
00:45:24,719 --> 00:45:28,160
Speaker 2: I could definitely see a situation in which Texas goes

883
00:45:28,200 --> 00:45:30,800
Speaker 2: out there, they score a bunch of points early, and

884
00:45:31,360 --> 00:45:33,600
Speaker 2: Baylor can't catch up. That'll be the only way I

885
00:45:33,600 --> 00:45:35,920
Speaker 2: could see Texas winning, I suppose.

886
00:45:36,080 --> 00:45:39,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm just I'm locking in on my mid and

887
00:45:39,440 --> 00:45:43,399
Speaker 1: late season belief system of big play defense and pass rush,

888
00:45:43,520 --> 00:45:45,359
Speaker 1: and I think Baylor is just so much better than

889
00:45:45,400 --> 00:45:46,120
Speaker 1: Texas right now.

890
00:45:46,520 --> 00:45:51,439
Speaker 2: Twelve o'clock ACC Network the Miami Hurricanes on the road

891
00:45:51,480 --> 00:45:55,680
Speaker 2: at Pit Pit, favored by round eleven. YEA jumped around

892
00:45:55,680 --> 00:45:57,960
Speaker 2: a little bit. What are the odds of a double

893
00:45:58,040 --> 00:46:01,600
Speaker 2: letdown game here? What are the odds? Pitt coming off

894
00:46:01,680 --> 00:46:05,680
Speaker 2: the Clemson win is little flat, and Miami coming off

895
00:46:05,760 --> 00:46:08,799
Speaker 2: the NC State upset is also flat on the road.

896
00:46:09,840 --> 00:46:12,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, Pitt one of the best teams against the spread

897
00:46:12,080 --> 00:46:14,520
Speaker 1: this year. There's something like six and one against FBS teams.

898
00:46:14,560 --> 00:46:16,120
Speaker 1: I don't know have the exact number. And not only

899
00:46:16,120 --> 00:46:18,600
Speaker 1: are they great against the spread record wise, but they're

900
00:46:18,600 --> 00:46:21,240
Speaker 1: great against the spread in terms of their average points

901
00:46:21,560 --> 00:46:24,440
Speaker 1: with which they cover. So Pitt is emphatic in their

902
00:46:24,480 --> 00:46:28,040
Speaker 1: coverage this year. So I mean, let's ignore that Western

903
00:46:28,080 --> 00:46:32,040
Speaker 1: Michigan game and by all me, the thing that I

904
00:46:32,200 --> 00:46:34,759
Speaker 1: like about Miami is and they haven't played away from home.

905
00:46:34,760 --> 00:46:36,560
Speaker 1: I think they played one true road game. They played

906
00:46:36,560 --> 00:46:39,440
Speaker 1: the game against Alabama in was it Atlanta? The neutral

907
00:46:39,480 --> 00:46:39,879
Speaker 1: site game?

908
00:46:40,000 --> 00:46:40,200
Speaker 2: Yep.

909
00:46:40,360 --> 00:46:43,480
Speaker 1: But the thing I like about Miami is as things

910
00:46:43,520 --> 00:46:45,960
Speaker 1: have gone sideways, that's a term you enjoy, you know,

911
00:46:46,040 --> 00:46:50,080
Speaker 1: with quarterback injuries, with guys leaving whatever, They've played hard,

912
00:46:50,320 --> 00:46:54,080
Speaker 1: they lost close games. They the collapse potential isn't nearly

913
00:46:54,120 --> 00:46:57,520
Speaker 1: as pronounced for me with Miami. Right they rallied around

914
00:46:57,560 --> 00:47:01,760
Speaker 1: Tyler van Dyke, Jalen Knighton has come to play. Charleston

915
00:47:01,840 --> 00:47:03,680
Speaker 1: Rambo had a really nice game last week in sten

916
00:47:03,760 --> 00:47:07,560
Speaker 1: c State, So there's still a belief there that they're battling.

917
00:47:07,600 --> 00:47:10,360
Speaker 1: They're playing younger guys on defense. I like Miami to

918
00:47:10,400 --> 00:47:13,960
Speaker 1: cover this game, if not win this game. Outright. Wow, Yeah,

919
00:47:14,520 --> 00:47:14,840
Speaker 1: there is.

920
00:47:14,920 --> 00:47:17,640
Speaker 2: Really really buying into the legend of TVD.

921
00:47:18,280 --> 00:47:21,360
Speaker 1: They're too mistake prone. I'm would I don't know what

922
00:47:21,440 --> 00:47:23,200
Speaker 1: the money line is here. I wouldn't bet on them

923
00:47:23,320 --> 00:47:24,960
Speaker 1: to win outright, But I just think it's gonna be

924
00:47:25,000 --> 00:47:28,439
Speaker 1: a very tight game. Wow, I do think it's gonna

925
00:47:28,440 --> 00:47:31,640
Speaker 1: be tight in a leftdown spot, in a letdown spot. Look,

926
00:47:31,680 --> 00:47:34,040
Speaker 1: this is this is the week that we've seen the

927
00:47:34,160 --> 00:47:36,040
Speaker 1: most Oh what could Pitt be?

928
00:47:36,280 --> 00:47:36,440
Speaker 2: Ooh?

929
00:47:36,600 --> 00:47:38,560
Speaker 1: Is can you picktt a Heisman contender? Whatever. I'm not

930
00:47:38,640 --> 00:47:40,799
Speaker 1: saying they're reading their own clippings or whatever and then

931
00:47:40,920 --> 00:47:43,479
Speaker 1: sort of getting too full of themselves. I'm just saying

932
00:47:43,719 --> 00:47:45,759
Speaker 1: there are certain things that are going to come back

933
00:47:45,840 --> 00:47:48,440
Speaker 1: down to earth. And so I think Pitt wins this game.

934
00:47:48,480 --> 00:47:49,600
Speaker 1: But I think they win this game by a touch.

935
00:47:49,600 --> 00:47:51,120
Speaker 1: I think it's like a twenty eight twenty one game.

936
00:47:51,320 --> 00:47:53,080
Speaker 1: That's just too big a number for me. But I'm

937
00:47:53,080 --> 00:47:55,120
Speaker 1: a believer in Miami's ability to compete in this one.

938
00:47:55,440 --> 00:47:57,160
Speaker 2: I see it at nine and a half now, So

939
00:47:57,280 --> 00:48:01,480
Speaker 2: it's come down. Okay, it's come down point you putting

940
00:48:01,560 --> 00:48:05,439
Speaker 2: this podcast out there and influencing the public betting. Of course,

941
00:48:05,719 --> 00:48:07,960
Speaker 2: the lines come down a little bit. Money line is

942
00:48:08,040 --> 00:48:11,680
Speaker 2: plus two eighty. So if you put ten bucks down,

943
00:48:11,719 --> 00:48:14,759
Speaker 2: you'd win twenty eight if Miami won outright.

944
00:48:15,120 --> 00:48:18,600
Speaker 1: Right, I don't know. I mean here, you want a

945
00:48:18,680 --> 00:48:20,279
Speaker 1: number here. I don't know if this will change your

946
00:48:20,320 --> 00:48:23,560
Speaker 1: mind one way or the other. So as a home favorite,

947
00:48:24,239 --> 00:48:28,560
Speaker 1: Pat Nardoozy since twenty eighteen is a complete toss up. Now,

948
00:48:28,680 --> 00:48:31,359
Speaker 1: this team is better than the previous three teams. He's

949
00:48:31,360 --> 00:48:33,680
Speaker 1: seven and seven as a home favorite. I don't know

950
00:48:33,719 --> 00:48:36,080
Speaker 1: if that's a heinz Field thing, that it's an NFL

951
00:48:36,160 --> 00:48:38,680
Speaker 1: stadium and it's you know, it doesn't provide the electricity

952
00:48:38,719 --> 00:48:41,920
Speaker 1: and the energy of some of the I mean all

953
00:48:42,000 --> 00:48:45,000
Speaker 1: of the stadiums that aren't NFL stadiums that team's playing

954
00:48:45,080 --> 00:48:49,799
Speaker 1: at home. But there's something about Pitt coming back down

955
00:48:49,880 --> 00:48:53,120
Speaker 1: to earth and merely winning this game in regular fashion

956
00:48:53,600 --> 00:48:56,560
Speaker 1: than in outlandish one that I'm a believer in.

957
00:48:56,880 --> 00:48:59,000
Speaker 2: I agree, I would like it a little bit more

958
00:48:59,000 --> 00:49:00,840
Speaker 2: if it got to ten. But I do think Miami

959
00:49:00,920 --> 00:49:03,120
Speaker 2: keeps it close, and I do think they believe in

960
00:49:03,239 --> 00:49:06,560
Speaker 2: Tyler Van Dyke. Okay, if you read some of the

961
00:49:06,600 --> 00:49:12,080
Speaker 2: postgame comments, his teammates are very excited that he's a quarterback. Yeah,

962
00:49:12,200 --> 00:49:16,879
Speaker 2: they feel like they have something with him, so I'll

963
00:49:16,920 --> 00:49:19,480
Speaker 2: take points. I think Pitt wins. I think Pitt continues

964
00:49:19,560 --> 00:49:22,480
Speaker 2: to win. But that's a lot of points, especially with

965
00:49:22,600 --> 00:49:23,920
Speaker 2: some let down potential.

966
00:49:23,560 --> 00:49:27,080
Speaker 1: Here Miami in that window, which obviously spans a couple

967
00:49:27,160 --> 00:49:29,920
Speaker 1: different coaches because Miami Manny Diaz has only been there

968
00:49:29,960 --> 00:49:32,680
Speaker 1: since twenty nineteen four and two as road dogs, all

969
00:49:32,719 --> 00:49:33,360
Speaker 1: the same players.

970
00:49:33,680 --> 00:49:36,880
Speaker 2: Well, another road dog, this one at two o'clock ESPN plus.

971
00:49:37,200 --> 00:49:40,520
Speaker 2: If you have that, you've got Iowa State minus seven

972
00:49:40,680 --> 00:49:43,320
Speaker 2: on the road at West Virginia. You know how I

973
00:49:43,360 --> 00:49:45,160
Speaker 2: feel about Iowa State. I think they win the game.

974
00:49:45,200 --> 00:49:46,640
Speaker 2: I don't know how I feel about them covering on

975
00:49:46,680 --> 00:49:48,839
Speaker 2: the road though. That's a little bit of a danger

976
00:49:48,920 --> 00:49:51,840
Speaker 2: zone to me, so I guess I'd be inclined to

977
00:49:51,920 --> 00:49:55,799
Speaker 2: go points. Maybe I don't trust West Virginia though they

978
00:49:55,840 --> 00:49:56,919
Speaker 2: did look better last week.

979
00:49:58,280 --> 00:50:00,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, I always stay at an emotional last minute win

980
00:50:00,800 --> 00:50:03,480
Speaker 1: against Oklahoma State. Now going on the road. West Virginia

981
00:50:03,640 --> 00:50:05,839
Speaker 1: a tricky team but hasn't shown much in the way

982
00:50:05,880 --> 00:50:09,759
Speaker 1: of offense this year. Nice win over TCU, though, I'm

983
00:50:09,800 --> 00:50:12,759
Speaker 1: gonna I'm gonna give those points, Ty, I'm giving the

984
00:50:12,800 --> 00:50:17,440
Speaker 1: points With Ida State, I'm a believer, and West Virginia's defense,

985
00:50:17,800 --> 00:50:20,120
Speaker 1: while good, has still given up a little bit too

986
00:50:20,200 --> 00:50:24,279
Speaker 1: much for me to feel amazing about them, especially through

987
00:50:24,280 --> 00:50:26,600
Speaker 1: the air. I think Brock party and had a nice

988
00:50:26,600 --> 00:50:29,640
Speaker 1: breakthrough performance against Oklahoma State. So I think West Virginia

989
00:50:29,760 --> 00:50:32,480
Speaker 1: just allows too much through the air this coming week

990
00:50:32,520 --> 00:50:35,600
Speaker 1: against the Clones. And also also Iowa State has blown

991
00:50:35,640 --> 00:50:36,840
Speaker 1: them out recently.

992
00:50:37,640 --> 00:50:41,800
Speaker 2: It's true. Yeah, three point thirty ABC. We've got Texas

993
00:50:41,920 --> 00:50:45,640
Speaker 2: Tech on the road at Oklahoma. Oklahoma favored by twenty.

994
00:50:46,480 --> 00:50:49,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, as well doesn't have a coach. Yeah, Matt Wells

995
00:50:49,320 --> 00:50:49,680
Speaker 1: is out.

996
00:50:49,760 --> 00:50:53,240
Speaker 2: He got fired from Texas Tech eight games into the season.

997
00:50:53,920 --> 00:50:57,120
Speaker 2: Sonny Cumby, the offensive coordinator, is going to be taking

998
00:50:57,200 --> 00:51:01,600
Speaker 2: over here on an interim basis, Right, I don't hate

999
00:51:01,760 --> 00:51:06,560
Speaker 2: betting against Oklahoma every game from here on out. Same

1000
00:51:07,960 --> 00:51:10,120
Speaker 2: just to make sure that I'm on the one game

1001
00:51:10,120 --> 00:51:13,279
Speaker 2: where they lay a stinker mm hm. Because with the

1002
00:51:13,320 --> 00:51:16,520
Speaker 2: freshman quarterback, I believe it will happen. It will happen.

1003
00:51:16,600 --> 00:51:18,680
Speaker 2: Caleb Williams has been the real wall. Maybe that was

1004
00:51:18,760 --> 00:51:20,840
Speaker 2: last week, though it could have been last week, Right,

1005
00:51:21,040 --> 00:51:23,600
Speaker 2: I could be wrong every week from here on out. Yep,

1006
00:51:24,640 --> 00:51:28,640
Speaker 2: I don't hate that scenario betting against Oklahoma, expecting that

1007
00:51:28,680 --> 00:51:30,399
Speaker 2: at some point it's going to happen, just to say

1008
00:51:30,440 --> 00:51:33,520
Speaker 2: that I had it. I don't think this is the game.

1009
00:51:34,400 --> 00:51:36,920
Speaker 2: I don't think this is a game with not with

1010
00:51:37,040 --> 00:51:42,239
Speaker 2: Matt Wells being canned in advance. You know Texas Tech

1011
00:51:42,360 --> 00:51:46,480
Speaker 2: can score points, but Texas Tech has also pulled an

1012
00:51:46,560 --> 00:51:50,360
Speaker 2: incredible disappearing act in spots throughout the course of the season.

1013
00:51:51,160 --> 00:51:52,839
Speaker 2: I don't feel like we can trust them for much

1014
00:51:52,880 --> 00:51:55,480
Speaker 2: of anything, especially now given some turnover with their head

1015
00:51:55,520 --> 00:51:58,040
Speaker 2: football coach. So I'm gonna lay the points here, even

1016
00:51:58,080 --> 00:52:00,560
Speaker 2: though I don't feel terribly com often that.

1017
00:52:01,480 --> 00:52:04,600
Speaker 1: Okay, fair enough, I'm going to take them. I'm going

1018
00:52:04,640 --> 00:52:07,279
Speaker 1: to take those points. I just haven't seen any real

1019
00:52:07,400 --> 00:52:11,160
Speaker 1: reason from Oklahoma to believe it as a twenty plus?

1020
00:52:11,320 --> 00:52:12,759
Speaker 1: Is that right around twenty points? Right now?

1021
00:52:12,880 --> 00:52:13,440
Speaker 2: Twenty points.

1022
00:52:13,680 --> 00:52:16,040
Speaker 1: I just haven't been covering that. They've been playing too inconsistent.

1023
00:52:16,200 --> 00:52:18,960
Speaker 1: The penalties have added up the past. Defense is atrocious.

1024
00:52:18,960 --> 00:52:20,719
Speaker 1: I know Texas Tech is on their backup quarterback, but

1025
00:52:20,760 --> 00:52:24,200
Speaker 1: he's played a ton. Henry Columby Colombia, I always, I

1026
00:52:24,200 --> 00:52:28,440
Speaker 1: always nail his name incorrectly. Oklahoma's not a team that

1027
00:52:28,560 --> 00:52:30,840
Speaker 1: covers it big spreads right now, that's just all it is.

1028
00:52:31,640 --> 00:52:37,360
Speaker 2: Three thirty ESPN two Perdue at Nebraska. Yeah, Nebraska favored

1029
00:52:37,400 --> 00:52:42,520
Speaker 2: by seven and a half points here, Yeah, feels like

1030
00:52:42,560 --> 00:52:43,879
Speaker 2: a little bit too much.

1031
00:52:45,239 --> 00:52:47,600
Speaker 1: I like Nebraska big. I like Nebraska big.

1032
00:52:47,960 --> 00:52:48,520
Speaker 2: Really? Why?

1033
00:52:48,760 --> 00:52:48,960
Speaker 1: Yeah?

1034
00:52:49,120 --> 00:52:49,680
Speaker 2: Why do you like that?

1035
00:52:49,760 --> 00:52:53,000
Speaker 1: I just I've told you I'm leaning in. This is

1036
00:52:53,040 --> 00:52:57,440
Speaker 1: my RYL Sanmdbrook Saturday. I'm enthusiastic about some teams this year,

1037
00:52:57,640 --> 00:52:59,800
Speaker 1: and Nebraska is one of those teams that I'm just

1038
00:52:59,840 --> 00:53:04,200
Speaker 1: going to keep banking on a breakthrough. And I think

1039
00:53:04,680 --> 00:53:07,440
Speaker 1: we might have an overinflated sense of Purdue based on

1040
00:53:08,280 --> 00:53:11,640
Speaker 1: the Iowa win and little else. I mean, the Oregon

1041
00:53:11,680 --> 00:53:13,520
Speaker 1: State one's nice too, that was Week one. I think

1042
00:53:13,600 --> 00:53:15,560
Speaker 1: Nebraska has a nice win this week. They went by

1043
00:53:15,560 --> 00:53:18,080
Speaker 1: a couple touchdowns against Purdue. A lackluster performance from the

1044
00:53:18,120 --> 00:53:22,160
Speaker 1: Boilers last week against Wisconsin. Yeah, going on the road Nebraska, Yeah,

1045
00:53:22,440 --> 00:53:24,360
Speaker 1: I'm just I'm gonna stick with my beliefs.

1046
00:53:24,840 --> 00:53:28,240
Speaker 2: A Scotty two hotty Saturday for Dan Rubinsk Yeah, exactly.

1047
00:53:29,239 --> 00:53:32,520
Speaker 2: I'll go points. I think Nebraska's better, yeah, but I'll

1048
00:53:32,560 --> 00:53:35,960
Speaker 2: go points. I think Purdue can have some success through

1049
00:53:36,000 --> 00:53:39,360
Speaker 2: the air here, and I think with their defensive front

1050
00:53:39,440 --> 00:53:41,640
Speaker 2: and defense as a whole being as solid as it

1051
00:53:41,760 --> 00:53:44,239
Speaker 2: is that usually travels, it has traveled pretty well so

1052
00:53:44,320 --> 00:53:48,000
Speaker 2: far this season. So I'll go Purdue plus the points.

1053
00:53:48,320 --> 00:53:53,399
Speaker 2: Let's stick in that three thirty window. Florida State at Clemson, Dan, Yeah,

1054
00:53:54,239 --> 00:53:57,279
Speaker 2: I feel like for the first time in forever, this

1055
00:53:57,440 --> 00:53:59,920
Speaker 2: is actually kind of an interesting game. Florida State's will

1056
00:54:00,360 --> 00:54:04,600
Speaker 2: the last five meetings, they were absolutely embarrassed by Clemson

1057
00:54:04,640 --> 00:54:09,440
Speaker 2: the last two years. Is this the year has Florida

1058
00:54:09,480 --> 00:54:13,200
Speaker 2: State leveled off to the point now has Clemson dipped

1059
00:54:13,239 --> 00:54:15,759
Speaker 2: to the point now where you look at this game,

1060
00:54:15,840 --> 00:54:19,040
Speaker 2: you see Clemson favored by ten, and you're like, nah,

1061
00:54:19,040 --> 00:54:22,080
Speaker 2: I gotta go points. I gotta go points in Florida.

1062
00:54:21,760 --> 00:54:25,879
Speaker 1: State, Florida State lock of the week, block of the week.

1063
00:54:29,560 --> 00:54:34,680
Speaker 2: I was very nervous introing that game, very nervous introing

1064
00:54:34,760 --> 00:54:36,600
Speaker 2: that game for fear that you would laugh me off

1065
00:54:36,680 --> 00:54:40,120
Speaker 2: the stage here. But somebody's gonna win this game, twenty

1066
00:54:40,160 --> 00:54:43,319
Speaker 2: one to seventeen. It might be Florida State, it might

1067
00:54:43,360 --> 00:54:48,040
Speaker 2: be Clemson, but twenty is plenty. Clemson favored by ten

1068
00:54:49,320 --> 00:54:52,360
Speaker 2: feels like a real danger zone right now that I

1069
00:54:52,400 --> 00:54:54,120
Speaker 2: don't want to. I don't want to tiptoe into.

1070
00:54:55,160 --> 00:54:59,239
Speaker 1: I wouldn't trust Clemson against any ACC team with a

1071
00:54:59,320 --> 00:55:04,320
Speaker 1: heartbeat giving more than three and a half points. What

1072
00:55:04,560 --> 00:55:05,520
Speaker 1: evidence is there.

1073
00:55:06,880 --> 00:55:09,160
Speaker 2: What still evidences that they do have a defense?

1074
00:55:09,800 --> 00:55:12,239
Speaker 1: Doesn't matter? You said this is interesting. I don't think

1075
00:55:12,239 --> 00:55:14,680
Speaker 1: there's anything interesting about a game involving Clemson's twenty twenty

1076
00:55:14,719 --> 00:55:19,320
Speaker 1: one offense. Whoa Jordan Travis has been making plays, the

1077
00:55:19,440 --> 00:55:22,160
Speaker 1: defense has improved. All you have to do is have

1078
00:55:22,200 --> 00:55:25,160
Speaker 1: a heartbeat to cover against Clemson. Even if Clemson wins

1079
00:55:25,200 --> 00:55:29,000
Speaker 1: this game twenty to eighteen or whatever. No, are not

1080
00:55:29,160 --> 00:55:29,800
Speaker 1: offered ever.

1081
00:55:29,800 --> 00:55:31,360
Speaker 2: Of the week from Dan Rubinstein.

1082
00:55:31,520 --> 00:55:34,960
Speaker 1: They haven't. What have they done to earn this spread

1083
00:55:35,040 --> 00:55:35,440
Speaker 1: this year?

1084
00:55:36,960 --> 00:55:41,040
Speaker 2: They've been really good over the last five years. That's it. Okay,

1085
00:55:43,239 --> 00:55:46,800
Speaker 2: that's it, and they've got a defense. That's it doesn't

1086
00:55:46,840 --> 00:55:49,680
Speaker 2: mean much to me. All right, Wow, I think somebody

1087
00:55:49,719 --> 00:55:51,960
Speaker 2: wins twenty one to seventeen. But I'm with you in

1088
00:55:52,080 --> 00:55:53,719
Speaker 2: no way what I want to lay ten points here?

1089
00:55:53,760 --> 00:55:54,320
Speaker 2: Are you kidding me?

1090
00:55:54,480 --> 00:56:00,359
Speaker 1: Clemson benched their starting quarterback against pitt last week. Yeah,

1091
00:56:00,920 --> 00:56:02,959
Speaker 1: and they're winning this game by two touchdowns or something.

1092
00:56:03,160 --> 00:56:07,200
Speaker 2: Now stop. Maybe it's what he needed. Get back on

1093
00:56:07,320 --> 00:56:15,120
Speaker 2: trash cool a right seven o'clock SEC Network. Kentucky minus

1094
00:56:15,160 --> 00:56:18,560
Speaker 2: a point and a half at Mississippi State. Kentucky won

1095
00:56:18,680 --> 00:56:22,399
Speaker 2: twenty four to two. Last year dan they did game

1096
00:56:22,600 --> 00:56:27,600
Speaker 2: was in Lexington. I went back and looked. I think

1097
00:56:27,600 --> 00:56:31,880
Speaker 2: I've gotten every Mississippi State game ron this year, everyone

1098
00:56:31,960 --> 00:56:35,040
Speaker 2: that week. Okay, I am pretty sure I've gotten every

1099
00:56:35,800 --> 00:56:37,200
Speaker 2: So where are you leaning? So, just so I know

1100
00:56:37,320 --> 00:56:39,080
Speaker 2: I'm gonna ask you first, is what I'm gonna do.

1101
00:56:39,520 --> 00:56:42,560
Speaker 1: I'm taking Kentucky here. I think Kentucky's a little bit

1102
00:56:42,600 --> 00:56:45,960
Speaker 1: more reliable and Mississippi State I just don't think there

1103
00:56:45,960 --> 00:56:47,400
Speaker 1: are a number of ways for them to win. And

1104
00:56:47,520 --> 00:56:49,160
Speaker 1: Kentucky's coming off of bye week, and I know they

1105
00:56:49,200 --> 00:56:51,879
Speaker 1: haven't been incredible against the spread these past few years

1106
00:56:51,960 --> 00:56:54,520
Speaker 1: under Mark Stoops coming off of that bye week. But

1107
00:56:55,440 --> 00:56:58,520
Speaker 1: I'm still going with Kentucky. I still I'm a believer

1108
00:56:58,640 --> 00:57:03,520
Speaker 1: in this offense. I'm a belief in the complete absences

1109
00:57:03,600 --> 00:57:07,799
Speaker 1: that Mississippi State offense. Mississippi State's offense goes through. They

1110
00:57:07,920 --> 00:57:09,840
Speaker 1: just will not show up for a corner and a

1111
00:57:09,880 --> 00:57:12,520
Speaker 1: half at times, So now I'm I'm going with Kentucky here.

1112
00:57:12,520 --> 00:57:14,239
Speaker 1: I think they're just more reliable. I know, what does

1113
00:57:14,280 --> 00:57:16,760
Speaker 1: it pick them? It's somewhere in there, real low. I'm

1114
00:57:16,760 --> 00:57:17,680
Speaker 1: going Kentucky on the road.

1115
00:57:17,760 --> 00:57:19,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's jumped around a little bit. I think right

1116
00:57:19,920 --> 00:57:23,400
Speaker 2: now it's Kentucky minus a point and a half. I

1117
00:57:23,520 --> 00:57:27,480
Speaker 2: have seen projections that have Mississippi State favored by five,

1118
00:57:27,560 --> 00:57:31,480
Speaker 2: which I do not buy right at all. So I

1119
00:57:31,520 --> 00:57:32,960
Speaker 2: think I'm with you. I'm going to go Kentucky.

1120
00:57:33,360 --> 00:57:35,800
Speaker 1: Also, Kentucky hits and now Kentucky hasn't been the same

1121
00:57:35,920 --> 00:57:38,520
Speaker 1: on the road. But if I'm talking about my back

1122
00:57:38,600 --> 00:57:40,720
Speaker 1: half of the season, I trust big play defense and

1123
00:57:40,760 --> 00:57:42,240
Speaker 1: pass rush. Do you trust Kentucky here?

1124
00:57:42,920 --> 00:57:46,640
Speaker 2: Yeah? Okay, let's move on to my lock of the week.

1125
00:57:47,160 --> 00:57:53,440
Speaker 2: Please Block of the Week seven point thirty NBC. We've

1126
00:57:53,480 --> 00:57:56,720
Speaker 2: got North Carolina on the road at Notre Dame. Notre

1127
00:57:56,800 --> 00:58:00,720
Speaker 2: Dame favored by three and a half. Kyle Hamilton has

1128
00:58:00,800 --> 00:58:04,160
Speaker 2: been ruled out. Yeah, I saw that because of the

1129
00:58:04,240 --> 00:58:07,920
Speaker 2: knee injury. It's a significant blow to this Irish defense.

1130
00:58:08,880 --> 00:58:13,080
Speaker 2: It's gotten most of the headlines, rightfully, So I don't

1131
00:58:13,120 --> 00:58:15,840
Speaker 2: get this line one iota. Even with him out.

1132
00:58:16,400 --> 00:58:20,160
Speaker 1: Well, what's dependable about either one of these teams? Well,

1133
00:58:20,320 --> 00:58:22,080
Speaker 1: this year's version of these squads.

1134
00:58:22,680 --> 00:58:25,880
Speaker 2: It could be because I have not paid attention to

1135
00:58:25,960 --> 00:58:29,520
Speaker 2: North Carolina. Okay, so maybe this is a fullhardy lock

1136
00:58:29,600 --> 00:58:32,480
Speaker 2: of the week when I'm going with Notre Dame. However,

1137
00:58:33,720 --> 00:58:38,040
Speaker 2: the unc offensive game plan, as I've come to understand

1138
00:58:38,120 --> 00:58:42,720
Speaker 2: it is number one, whatever Sam Hall can do, run

1139
00:58:42,840 --> 00:58:47,320
Speaker 2: or thrown, and then number two TDDE Chandler, Josh Downs

1140
00:58:47,360 --> 00:58:50,560
Speaker 2: whatever they can do. Yeah, and that's pretty much it.

1141
00:58:51,040 --> 00:58:53,720
Speaker 2: But it's mostly Sam Howell whatever he can do. That's

1142
00:58:53,800 --> 00:58:57,040
Speaker 2: pretty much the game plan as I see it. And

1143
00:58:57,080 --> 00:58:59,520
Speaker 2: they're going to score in this game, like I think

1144
00:59:00,040 --> 00:59:03,560
Speaker 2: they're gonna get to probably thirty points. But I also

1145
00:59:03,640 --> 00:59:05,760
Speaker 2: think this is a neck crack game from Marcus Freeman.

1146
00:59:06,000 --> 00:59:08,240
Speaker 2: We know he likes to bring pressure. We also know

1147
00:59:08,360 --> 00:59:10,360
Speaker 2: from looking at numbers from watching all of you ns

1148
00:59:10,400 --> 00:59:12,400
Speaker 2: these games this year that they're just not good upfront.

1149
00:59:14,000 --> 00:59:16,480
Speaker 1: They don't tack well on defense, they don't protect Sam Howell, they.

1150
00:59:16,440 --> 00:59:19,000
Speaker 2: Don't protect Sam Howell in particular, touch Handler's been okay,

1151
00:59:19,080 --> 00:59:21,120
Speaker 2: but they don't protect Sam Howe. So I think you're

1152
00:59:21,120 --> 00:59:23,320
Speaker 2: going to see a ton of pressure from that Notre

1153
00:59:23,360 --> 00:59:26,400
Speaker 2: Dame front seven because North Carolina is so bad at

1154
00:59:26,440 --> 00:59:28,720
Speaker 2: protecting him. I also think this is going to be

1155
00:59:28,760 --> 00:59:31,280
Speaker 2: a really good game to get Tyler Buckner involved because,

1156
00:59:31,400 --> 00:59:34,360
Speaker 2: among other things, UNC is not good at stopping the running.

1157
00:59:34,360 --> 00:59:36,080
Speaker 2: They're not good in the front seven either, also, but

1158
00:59:36,200 --> 00:59:38,480
Speaker 2: Notre Dame not a good running team at all. They're

1159
00:59:38,560 --> 00:59:42,720
Speaker 2: getting better, okay, there are getting better as long as

1160
00:59:42,760 --> 00:59:46,480
Speaker 2: they play lame duck coaching situations. Notre Dame has broken

1161
00:59:46,600 --> 00:59:49,320
Speaker 2: through impressively. Yeah, I think Notre Dame in this one,

1162
00:59:49,440 --> 00:59:51,919
Speaker 2: between the defense and how I know the coordinator wants

1163
00:59:51,960 --> 00:59:54,840
Speaker 2: to bring pressure even despite the fact that Hamilton's going

1164
00:59:54,920 --> 00:59:57,760
Speaker 2: to be out, I think they'll be okay. Combined with

1165
00:59:57,840 --> 01:00:01,760
Speaker 2: the fact that they are getting better up front, and

1166
01:00:01,880 --> 01:00:04,040
Speaker 2: this is another opportunity for them to take a step

1167
01:00:04,080 --> 01:00:07,720
Speaker 2: forward as they did a week ago against USC. It

1168
01:00:07,840 --> 01:00:10,720
Speaker 2: might be back and forth for a while, but ultimately

1169
01:00:10,800 --> 01:00:14,440
Speaker 2: Notre Dame's just gonna kill UNC in the trenches. And

1170
01:00:14,520 --> 01:00:16,360
Speaker 2: that's a weird thing to say, given where Notre Dame

1171
01:00:16,400 --> 01:00:19,080
Speaker 2: has been at. But I really feel pretty confident here.

1172
01:00:19,120 --> 01:00:21,000
Speaker 2: That's why I'm blocking it up forty two to thirty

1173
01:00:21,040 --> 01:00:23,560
Speaker 2: one A lot of points back and forth for a while,

1174
01:00:23,600 --> 01:00:25,400
Speaker 2: but Notre Dame separates and wins this one.

1175
01:00:25,360 --> 01:00:29,160
Speaker 1: Going away North Carolina coming off of a bye something.

1176
01:00:29,480 --> 01:00:31,280
Speaker 1: They have not been great on the road, the loss

1177
01:00:31,280 --> 01:00:32,840
Speaker 1: to Georgia Tech where they gave up I don't know,

1178
01:00:32,880 --> 01:00:35,640
Speaker 1: damn near fifty points to Georgia Tech. That's difficult to do.

1179
01:00:35,800 --> 01:00:38,959
Speaker 1: That's an unusual way to lose to Georgia Tech lately,

1180
01:00:39,640 --> 01:00:41,640
Speaker 1: losing to Virginia Tech the way that they did early on.

1181
01:00:41,760 --> 01:00:43,280
Speaker 1: Now it's week one whatever, and it wasn't even just

1182
01:00:43,360 --> 01:00:46,960
Speaker 1: week one. It was midweek. They lose by double digits

1183
01:00:47,040 --> 01:00:48,960
Speaker 1: to Florida State, who I think has improved, and I

1184
01:00:49,080 --> 01:00:51,080
Speaker 1: just talked about how I like them. They beat Miami

1185
01:00:51,120 --> 01:00:53,760
Speaker 1: in a shootout, like they're just the variance is all

1186
01:00:53,840 --> 01:00:56,400
Speaker 1: over the place. Notre Dame is more dependable at home.

1187
01:00:56,720 --> 01:00:59,640
Speaker 1: They're all over the map. This is a bad point spread.

1188
01:01:00,600 --> 01:01:02,760
Speaker 1: Is a bad point spread? I don't know now, but

1189
01:01:02,800 --> 01:01:05,480
Speaker 1: I could. I can see North Carolina winning this game,

1190
01:01:06,160 --> 01:01:08,840
Speaker 1: like because they they can reach a number that Notre

1191
01:01:08,920 --> 01:01:13,000
Speaker 1: Dame just can't reach. Like Notre Dame has not played again,

1192
01:01:13,080 --> 01:01:15,360
Speaker 1: Like who's the best offense Notre Dame has played against?

1193
01:01:15,400 --> 01:01:18,160
Speaker 2: This year, probably Cincinnati.

1194
01:01:18,920 --> 01:01:21,280
Speaker 1: Okay, in Cincinnati's offense didn't do a ton. They had

1195
01:01:21,320 --> 01:01:23,880
Speaker 1: the short fields off of the interceptions, but in terms

1196
01:01:23,880 --> 01:01:26,520
Speaker 1: of driving down the field consistently and taking advantage like

1197
01:01:26,600 --> 01:01:30,000
Speaker 1: Wisconsin's offense, no perdues offense. No, Florida State's offense was good,

1198
01:01:30,360 --> 01:01:32,440
Speaker 1: but that was that involved what an eighteen point you know,

1199
01:01:32,560 --> 01:01:34,680
Speaker 1: comeback something like that late in that game. So Notre

1200
01:01:34,760 --> 01:01:37,760
Speaker 1: Dame performed pretty well against them. USC's offense has been

1201
01:01:37,800 --> 01:01:41,240
Speaker 1: a mess. They have a great receiver. But North Carolina

1202
01:01:41,360 --> 01:01:44,800
Speaker 1: at least offers the potential of scoring thirty five points

1203
01:01:44,840 --> 01:01:47,800
Speaker 1: and forcing Notre Dame to score thirty eight. And that

1204
01:01:48,120 --> 01:01:50,160
Speaker 1: is where it becomes a little bit dicey to me

1205
01:01:50,400 --> 01:01:53,440
Speaker 1: that you know what, note what North Carolina's offensive ceiling

1206
01:01:53,680 --> 01:01:56,320
Speaker 1: is with at least talent wise, one of the best

1207
01:01:56,360 --> 01:01:57,920
Speaker 1: five or six quarterbacks in the country.

1208
01:01:58,720 --> 01:01:59,400
Speaker 2: I don't that to me.

1209
01:01:59,520 --> 01:02:01,480
Speaker 1: I don't buy any of that, I hear you. I

1210
01:02:01,520 --> 01:02:04,320
Speaker 1: don't you know in one hundred simulations, you know that

1211
01:02:04,440 --> 01:02:06,440
Speaker 1: there is a thirty eight to thirty five game here?

1212
01:02:06,840 --> 01:02:11,000
Speaker 2: Sure? Eleven times no, I yes, I understand what you're saying.

1213
01:02:11,040 --> 01:02:13,360
Speaker 2: I don't see it happening Okay, I don't see it

1214
01:02:13,400 --> 01:02:16,000
Speaker 2: happening here. I think the point spread's wrong. I think

1215
01:02:16,080 --> 01:02:21,200
Speaker 2: Notre Dame wins this one. As I said back and forth,

1216
01:02:21,560 --> 01:02:25,360
Speaker 2: they score points, they capitalize on turnovers and mistakes and

1217
01:02:25,920 --> 01:02:28,880
Speaker 2: some of what I think will be dominance in the trenches.

1218
01:02:28,960 --> 01:02:31,480
Speaker 2: Believe it or not talking forty two to thirty one.

1219
01:02:31,720 --> 01:02:33,800
Speaker 2: But I okay, they're my walk of the week. I

1220
01:02:33,920 --> 01:02:34,240
Speaker 2: feel it.

1221
01:02:35,160 --> 01:02:38,480
Speaker 1: I love that you are every week picking against Notre Dame,

1222
01:02:38,600 --> 01:02:41,200
Speaker 1: not seeing it with Notre Dame too many points. And

1223
01:02:41,280 --> 01:02:43,880
Speaker 1: now North Carolina and the Crown have just brought something

1224
01:02:43,920 --> 01:02:44,200
Speaker 1: out of you.

1225
01:02:44,480 --> 01:02:47,560
Speaker 2: No, not this week, Okay, not this week. I love it.

1226
01:02:47,680 --> 01:02:48,600
Speaker 1: I love the confidence.

1227
01:02:48,960 --> 01:02:52,160
Speaker 2: A couple more games here, ten pm. You staying up

1228
01:02:52,200 --> 01:02:52,600
Speaker 2: for this one?

1229
01:02:54,040 --> 01:02:55,080
Speaker 1: It depends where we're going.

1230
01:02:55,440 --> 01:03:01,000
Speaker 2: Ucla Utah, No, I'm not. We've got Utah favored by

1231
01:03:01,560 --> 01:03:03,880
Speaker 2: six and a half points. They've won the last four.

1232
01:03:04,520 --> 01:03:09,200
Speaker 2: They won forty nine to three last year. I like

1233
01:03:09,320 --> 01:03:13,040
Speaker 2: the Utes again, but they've been giving up some points

1234
01:03:13,120 --> 01:03:13,480
Speaker 2: this year.

1235
01:03:14,280 --> 01:03:15,960
Speaker 1: Man, their special teams, it's atrocious.

1236
01:03:16,160 --> 01:03:19,080
Speaker 2: Special teams is bad. The run defense is not where

1237
01:03:19,120 --> 01:03:25,240
Speaker 2: it's usually at. No. And so while I don't fully

1238
01:03:25,320 --> 01:03:29,200
Speaker 2: trust Ucla to go on the road to Utah and

1239
01:03:29,280 --> 01:03:31,840
Speaker 2: win this one because I think Utah is better right now,

1240
01:03:33,640 --> 01:03:36,160
Speaker 2: I think it's close. Six and a half points is

1241
01:03:36,240 --> 01:03:38,320
Speaker 2: a spread. I'm not laying six and a half points here.

1242
01:03:38,760 --> 01:03:41,720
Speaker 2: So I got Utah, but I got Ucla with the points. Oh,

1243
01:03:41,760 --> 01:03:44,120
Speaker 2: I think Utah wins this game by ten to thirteen points.

1244
01:03:44,800 --> 01:03:46,800
Speaker 1: I think Ucla has been a different team on the road.

1245
01:03:46,840 --> 01:03:48,280
Speaker 1: I think it was a nice comeback or not come

1246
01:03:48,360 --> 01:03:51,560
Speaker 1: back what you know, way too to push things late

1247
01:03:51,640 --> 01:03:56,280
Speaker 1: against Stanford. But no, I don't trust Ucla here. I

1248
01:03:56,320 --> 01:04:00,440
Speaker 1: think the Washington win I don't think was as impressive

1249
01:04:00,440 --> 01:04:03,360
Speaker 1: as it could have been. And going, I mean, this

1250
01:04:03,440 --> 01:04:06,240
Speaker 1: is an elevation station, right it is an elevation station

1251
01:04:06,400 --> 01:04:10,240
Speaker 1: going up to SLC DTR leaves the Oregon game late,

1252
01:04:10,320 --> 01:04:13,480
Speaker 1: so it's Ethan Garber's throwing the throwing balls on that

1253
01:04:13,640 --> 01:04:16,680
Speaker 1: final drive. Now, I don't think Ucla has it here,

1254
01:04:16,800 --> 01:04:18,840
Speaker 1: So I'm going in Utah with a nice bounce back

1255
01:04:18,880 --> 01:04:21,240
Speaker 1: after losing to I believe what Oregon State last week?

1256
01:04:21,320 --> 01:04:21,800
Speaker 2: Yep, yep.

1257
01:04:22,320 --> 01:04:24,040
Speaker 1: I think Utah bounces back nicely.

1258
01:04:24,480 --> 01:04:30,120
Speaker 2: Ten fifteen ESPN two. We've got Virginia on the road

1259
01:04:30,240 --> 01:04:33,240
Speaker 2: at BYU BYU favored by two and a half. It's

1260
01:04:33,280 --> 01:04:36,520
Speaker 2: the Bronco Mendenhall Bowl. This one I've thought about for

1261
01:04:36,560 --> 01:04:39,800
Speaker 2: a long time. I think the wrong team is favored here.

1262
01:04:40,960 --> 01:04:41,840
Speaker 1: It's an easy case.

1263
01:04:42,960 --> 01:04:45,120
Speaker 2: I'm going UVA. I think I think UVA is the

1264
01:04:45,160 --> 01:04:51,400
Speaker 2: better team. I trust them more. BYU's defense secretly not

1265
01:04:51,520 --> 01:04:51,919
Speaker 2: that great.

1266
01:04:52,840 --> 01:04:55,560
Speaker 1: You ever watch Virginia try to play defense?

1267
01:04:55,720 --> 01:04:57,400
Speaker 2: No, also not very good.

1268
01:04:58,600 --> 01:05:02,600
Speaker 1: So I mean we have two bad defenses, two at

1269
01:05:02,760 --> 01:05:05,600
Speaker 1: times very impressive quarterbacks. More so, I think with Brennan

1270
01:05:05,680 --> 01:05:08,480
Speaker 1: Armstrong in the passing game in Charlottesville. Now they're on

1271
01:05:08,520 --> 01:05:11,360
Speaker 1: the road another game, going to elevation. I mean it's

1272
01:05:11,560 --> 01:05:14,560
Speaker 1: a weird travel situation as well, right Virginia traveling that

1273
01:05:14,640 --> 01:05:22,440
Speaker 1: far west. I think I'm going to BYU here. I

1274
01:05:22,560 --> 01:05:25,040
Speaker 1: have seen the depths to which now BYU does not

1275
01:05:25,520 --> 01:05:28,680
Speaker 1: BYU does not play good defense. I am with you,

1276
01:05:29,560 --> 01:05:33,840
Speaker 1: but BYU at home with I think at an offense that,

1277
01:05:34,080 --> 01:05:36,919
Speaker 1: especially if the ground game is going, I think they're

1278
01:05:36,920 --> 01:05:38,720
Speaker 1: good enough to win this game. And I just week

1279
01:05:38,760 --> 01:05:44,080
Speaker 1: to week, I'm just I don't love rolling with one

1280
01:05:44,200 --> 01:05:47,200
Speaker 1: guy does it all teams? I don't love it. And

1281
01:05:47,320 --> 01:05:52,240
Speaker 1: Brennan Armstrong, I hear you is borderline special Keton Thompson borderlines.

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Speaker 1: I'm totally with you on all of those things, but

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Speaker 1: it's another it's a variant situation at altitude. I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I'm going to BYU here. I'm going with the home team.

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Speaker 2: I think the better bet for fan purposes would be

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Speaker 2: whether or not Brendan Armstrong gets to four hundred yards

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Speaker 2: passing true, because that's just worth call. That's a much

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Speaker 2: more fun thing to pay attention to, and he could

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Speaker 2: he for what it's worth, he would. This is a

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Speaker 2: defense in BYU that's been very bad against the pass.

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Speaker 1: By the way, just in terms of my belief system,

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Speaker 1: BYU does a better job in preventing big plays. Virginia

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Speaker 1: has been a terrible big play defense this year. Just

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Speaker 1: some men to keep in mind.

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Speaker 2: Final game on my list, I've got ten thirty CBS

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Speaker 2: Sports Network, Fresno State at San Diego State. San Diego

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Speaker 2: State favored by one. Don't know if you've got any

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Speaker 2: kind of Jake Hayner explainer planned for this shortle capsule

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Speaker 2: as we go through the game. But yeah, I'm gonna

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Speaker 2: go Fresno. I gotta go Fresno.

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Speaker 1: I'm going san Diego State here. I think it's it's

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Speaker 1: late at night. It's a home team that plays great defense.

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Speaker 1: Now I understand the home situation with San Diego State.

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Speaker 1: It's a little bit unorthodox, but I'm still going san

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Speaker 1: Diego State here. The best thing in this game is

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Speaker 1: their ability to defend, their ability to tackle, their ability

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Speaker 1: to limit possessions. So yeah, I'm gonna I'm gonna go

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Speaker 1: with the Aztecs here. Fresno State's a good team, but

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Speaker 1: San Diego State plays defense better than most teams do

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Speaker 1: anything in the country.

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Speaker 2: We disagree, we disagree, we did.

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Speaker 1: We did. Should also mention ASU Wazoo is always weird,

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Speaker 1: it's always entertaining, and it's happening on Saturday. So there's

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Speaker 1: that game Boston College Syracuse more of a I think

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Speaker 1: a referendum on Syracuse's improvement. That game is in the

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Speaker 1: Carrier Dome. I believe maybe you can verify that. I

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Speaker 1: don't know. Minnesota Northwestern right down the street from me.

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Speaker 1: Another situation I don't know. I mean this is these

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Speaker 1: are all matchups that have Bowl eligibility implications. So if

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Speaker 1: you're a fan of one of those teams, same goes

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Speaker 1: for TCU, Kansas State in a purple matchup that has

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Speaker 1: Bowl eligibility ramifications. UTEP can get to seven and one tie,

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Speaker 1: and that's ahead of the UTSA game next week, which

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Speaker 1: I just saw was picked up by I believe ESPN.

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Speaker 2: We're gonna, we're definitely we're gonna make that one one

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Speaker 2: of our headliners to talk about.

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Speaker 1: Course we have to so they can get to I

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Speaker 1: think is u TEP playing Rice? Is that what I saw?

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Speaker 1: I didn't mark down their opponent.

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Speaker 2: Au FAU.

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Speaker 1: Okay, that's tough. That's a tough matchup. It's in Boca,

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Speaker 1: I believe. So yeah, they can get there though. And

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Speaker 1: then Louisville n C State I think has entertaining implications

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Speaker 1: with the way Louisville can play offense, with the way

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Speaker 1: NC State can play defense, I think that's a quality matchup. Louisville,

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Speaker 1: by the way, very quietly, what's their record right now?

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Speaker 1: Right now?

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Speaker 2: Louisville's record, I right there. There is a quiet quality

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Speaker 2: to the Louisville Cardinals.

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Speaker 1: Yes, so Louisville right now. The offense is in a

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Speaker 1: pretty good place. They make plays. The offensive line is

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Speaker 1: from what I can tell, the underlying numbers I haven't

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Speaker 1: watched a ton of Louisville this year, but when I do,

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Speaker 1: they make plays right. This Louille team finishes with the

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Speaker 1: following teams. NC State will be tough, Clemson whatever, Syracuse

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Speaker 1: decent but not perfect. Duke Kentucky obviously in the rivalry matchup.

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Speaker 1: Like Louisville, I think has one of the more intriguing

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Speaker 1: final four or five games of the season. So that's

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Speaker 1: why I just put this on the list of games

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Speaker 1: to consider for your eyeballs.

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Speaker 2: I like it. Well, we appreciate everybody stopping on by here. Yes,

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Speaker 2: don't one more request hi if you could drop some

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01:09:26,640 --> 01:09:34,639
Speaker 2: big stanky. I just trumped five. The Patriot League rides

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Speaker 2: once more. Dan, We've got three games here to discuss,

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Speaker 2: twelve o'clock ESPN plus Holy Cross at Lehigh. Thank you

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Speaker 2: for pointing out to me, to my family, to the

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Speaker 2: solid verbal family that the Mountain Hawks scored their first

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Speaker 2: touchdown a week ago. Yeah, they scored four of them.

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Speaker 1: It looks like they scored twenty eight points in a

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Speaker 1: losing effort against somebody I don't even remember who they played,

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01:10:02,320 --> 01:10:02,880
Speaker 1: but they lost.

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Speaker 2: They lost.

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Speaker 1: We go Cross Saders here right, Crossader's big I actually

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Speaker 1: look for lines for these games. I think they come

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Speaker 1: out later in the week, so I didn't find them. Lafayette, Georgetown,

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Speaker 1: Hornet's Nest, Tie.

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01:10:12,880 --> 01:10:15,479
Speaker 2: Hornet's Nest game. Gotta go Georgetown, right, I'm.

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Speaker 1: Going Yetti's big here. They just they If you look

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01:10:18,080 --> 01:10:20,200
Speaker 1: at Lafayette the way I look at Lafayette, you know

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01:10:20,280 --> 01:10:25,200
Speaker 1: that they're built brick blobbering, and that prepares them to

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Speaker 1: going into a Hornet's nest for preparing whatever.

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Speaker 2: You know.

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Speaker 1: My English is off buck now Colgate tie, let's dim

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Speaker 1: the music here, please.

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01:10:36,720 --> 01:10:40,960
Speaker 2: Fade the music. Whatever the word is. Yeah, this is

1376
01:10:41,000 --> 01:10:42,920
Speaker 2: in that vaunted one pm time window.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, anything goes.

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01:10:45,000 --> 01:10:46,559
Speaker 2: You never know what you're gonna get at that one

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01:10:46,680 --> 01:10:48,360
Speaker 2: pm time slot on the page.

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Speaker 1: Slippery fun at one.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm gonna go Gators, though, where a Gators show

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Speaker 2: on this here solid verbal podcast.

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01:10:55,840 --> 01:10:58,000
Speaker 1: I think I'm gonna go Gators as well, I am.

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Speaker 2: I mean we traveled to North Dakota the see the Gators,

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01:11:01,760 --> 01:11:05,040
Speaker 2: that's true, we did, all right, all right, that's all

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01:11:05,080 --> 01:11:07,880
Speaker 2: I have. Don't forget if you are out and about

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Speaker 2: this weekend looking to stay up to date with what's

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Speaker 2: going on in the college football World, pay a visit

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Speaker 2: to our friends over at the College Football Blitz, Daniel.

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Speaker 2: It is the red Zone channel for college football on

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Speaker 2: your radio airwaves. It starts every Saturday at noon Eastern

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Speaker 2: time on ESPN, you radio That's Serious, XM channel eighty four,

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Speaker 2: whip around coverage of every game in the top twenty five.

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Speaker 2: You can hear the scoring as it happens, as called

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Speaker 2: by each school's hometown radio crew. Only three commercial breaks

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Speaker 2: per hour, which means you get fifty six minutes of

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Speaker 2: live play by play. It is hosted by whom Daniel

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Speaker 2: Stevie speed Run Stephen Hartstall does an admirable job taking

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Speaker 2: you around the country each and every week. Don't know

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Speaker 2: how he does it. I've listened to that talent band. Well,

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01:12:07,200 --> 01:12:09,760
Speaker 2: of course it's raw talent, but I've listened to that

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Speaker 2: broadcast nearly every week, not just this season, but in

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Speaker 2: each of the last couple seasons. I have no idea

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Speaker 2: how he's able to do it. He does a great

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Speaker 2: job taking you around college football every week.

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Speaker 1: Totally agree, worth your time, especially out on the road.

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01:12:24,560 --> 01:12:26,519
Speaker 1: You need to keep track of everything. A lot of

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01:12:26,560 --> 01:12:29,000
Speaker 1: games happening at once. Maybe you're taking advantage of a

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Speaker 1: window opportunity heading to home goods and some pine cone.

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Speaker 2: Not as peril.

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Speaker 1: I don't know what they have, not a sponsor, Not

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Speaker 1: a sponsor, Couldie.

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Speaker 2: Daniel. I hope your stuffiness goes away by the time

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Speaker 2: you I feel Sunday recording. Yeah, time hits. I hope

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Speaker 2: everyone out there has a good, feel good weekend as well,

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Speaker 2: be it a sibling Saturday for you or a single

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Speaker 2: it Saturday. What was the other one you had? Stow

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Speaker 2: away stowaway Saturday.

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Speaker 1: We'll post make it a bunch of pizza Friday night tie.

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Speaker 1: So that's something to look forward to. Oh yeah, I've

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Speaker 1: got so one of Jody's best friends. They're a Michigan

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01:13:09,200 --> 01:13:10,960
Speaker 1: couple and we're friends with them in New York and

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01:13:11,000 --> 01:13:13,280
Speaker 1: they now live here. They're coming over Friday night with

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Speaker 1: the kiddos, and I'm doing a whole bunch of pizzas tie,

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01:13:17,200 --> 01:13:20,559
Speaker 1: whole bunch. I'll share some shots in the discord server.

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Speaker 2: Can you do one with the pepperoni in the shape

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01:13:24,160 --> 01:13:25,320
Speaker 2: of a Michigan State.

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Speaker 1: S A Spartan s. I just wish I were a

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01:13:30,360 --> 01:13:33,160
Speaker 1: Michigan State fan because that is. That's terrific trolling.

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Speaker 2: Tie.

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Speaker 1: I'm just not a fan. I don't know what pizza

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01:13:36,600 --> 01:13:38,959
Speaker 1: could I make you? What if you've seen my pizzas,

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Speaker 1: what would you request? Just a plain pie? Because you're

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Speaker 1: big on the like this is what you order to

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Speaker 1: see what they really have, to see what their talent is,

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Speaker 1: Like you do with your vodka, Penney, I would like

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Speaker 1: I would like something with some mushroom action mushrooms, mushrooms

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01:13:53,160 --> 01:13:55,960
Speaker 1: or some PEPs. Because you know you're being straight. Mushrooms

1440
01:13:55,960 --> 01:13:56,880
Speaker 1: are mushroom and pep.

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Speaker 2: I could do both on one. Do you like it?

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Speaker 1: Do you like a thicker shroom? Do you like a

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01:14:04,680 --> 01:14:06,880
Speaker 1: thinner shroom? Do you like a pre I imagine I

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01:14:06,880 --> 01:14:09,000
Speaker 1: would pre cook the shroom. I'm not a shroom guy,

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01:14:09,960 --> 01:14:12,040
Speaker 1: but I imagine it's better if you are able to

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01:14:12,200 --> 01:14:14,000
Speaker 1: roast off the mushrooms ahead of time, to get some

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01:14:14,080 --> 01:14:16,400
Speaker 1: of that water off, so it's more of a concentrated

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01:14:16,479 --> 01:14:17,639
Speaker 1: flavor atop your pizza.

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Speaker 2: I would leave it up to you. I'm going good

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01:14:20,680 --> 01:14:23,680
Speaker 2: either way, but I would probably test you out with

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01:14:23,760 --> 01:14:26,160
Speaker 2: some mushrooms and or pepperoni.

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Speaker 1: Okay, I mean, you're you're gonna be here at some point.

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01:14:30,000 --> 01:14:31,519
Speaker 2: I hope at some point we have to work.

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Speaker 1: I'll take care of you.

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01:14:32,479 --> 01:14:35,320
Speaker 2: Well, we'll figure that out. Okay, yeah, oh, Look, wherever

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Speaker 2: you may be this week nine, we hope you're able

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01:14:39,040 --> 01:14:40,840
Speaker 2: to get in front of a TV and watch some

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Speaker 2: of this awesome college football action. Don't forget to give

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Speaker 2: us a call for zero eight verbal one. That is

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Speaker 2: That is our reverblind where you can call in throughout

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Speaker 2: the course of a college football Saturday and leave us

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Speaker 2: if a team is losing, or if you need to

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Speaker 2: Horro eight verbal one will cut those together and play

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