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Speaker 1: is that culture? Yes? Goodness, ding Dong. Lost Culture is
Speaker 1: just calling. And it's been an emotional tay or what
Speaker 1: I mean. It's not even noon and tears have been shed,
Speaker 1: ducks have been triggered because ducts with the hp J
Speaker 1: Hot producer Joe Cilia and we have to say his name, Jilo.
Speaker 1: He just came in here and he's moving to Los Angeles,
Speaker 1: and we had a really emotional moment altogether. Yes, um,
Speaker 1: we all just sort of joined in a hug and enjoined.
Speaker 1: He had some very nice words to say, and I
Speaker 1: and the fucking the thing that's that's like sending me
Speaker 1: over the edges. He brought the like the original Lost
Speaker 1: Cultures his hat and that's when the hats were part
Speaker 1: of the brand back when I meant they're still the hat,
Speaker 1: They're still there. But oh my god, just what what
Speaker 1: a journey he's been. So he's been there since the beginning.
Speaker 1: And you should know, like if you listen to Forever
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Speaker 1: Race Chaser, if you love you know black man can
Speaker 1: jump in Hollywood. Everything like this is all. It's Joe
Speaker 1: and Alex and everyone if Forever Dog that have like
Speaker 1: seriously made this such a great dynamic network. There's so
Speaker 1: many great, cool new podcasts that are still coming, and
Speaker 1: it's just really awesome to have been at Forever Dog
Speaker 1: since the beginning. And like we watched it, we were
Speaker 1: just doing stuff at Alex's apartment and then like he
Speaker 1: would like put goofing in like the way that he
Speaker 1: would like filter out sound. Was he just put like
Speaker 1: an air mattress in the window, like like like those
Speaker 1: two boys built something together. That's so special. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: wonder how they're doing going to be separated because they're
Speaker 1: like Matt, they're like a mountain bow situation not not
Speaker 1: not quite as codependent maybe, but like I don't know,
Speaker 1: they run a business together. They're well sure um but
Speaker 1: they Yeah, I'm just that was that was a really
Speaker 1: emotional moment. That was seriously emotional and and we all
Speaker 1: had to hold each other. Yeah, it was very special. Anyway,
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Speaker 1: came in and look, I have a phone case that
Speaker 1: says I had a friend by an eraser tank top
Speaker 1: and I loved the public so much. But something about
Speaker 1: the way that that I dragged that logo to the
Speaker 1: very top left corner it could possibly go inches below
Speaker 1: the nipple, I was like, it doesn't doesn't really make sense.
Speaker 1: But well, i'll talk to our people that just speak
Speaker 1: to them at T in public. And also I heard
Speaker 1: that you feel this way T shirt is a little
Speaker 1: see through, but the person who got it says they
Speaker 1: actually love like it's a little bit. Do you have
Speaker 1: a story to share? I told you to store to
Speaker 1: show this has just been a very stressful week, fraught,
Speaker 1: frought week, and for me it's sort of I thought
Speaker 1: it culminated in this one event where um, but that
Speaker 1: it was this took place on a Friday, Yeah, this did.
Speaker 1: This was on Friday. I wake up have a beez
Speaker 1: or of a ship waiting for me in my bowels,
Speaker 1: just heavy, heavy, heavy poop. I walk out of my
Speaker 1: room and um my, one of my roommates is in
Speaker 1: the shower and I'm like, okay, great, it's fine, I'll
Speaker 1: just wait this out. It happens all the time. Forty
Speaker 1: five minutes later, I'm still in there, and at this point,
Speaker 1: I'm just my My dilations, let's say, are like two
Speaker 1: seconds apart, like a baby child, like a baby, like
Speaker 1: I'm giving birth. I'm giving an as birth essentially. And then, um,
Speaker 1: really did not one of my most help one of
Speaker 1: my most helpless moments. Run to the closet where we
Speaker 1: store our plastic bags. Double bag. I mean, I don't so.
Speaker 1: I told the story last night to Pat Reag in
Speaker 1: front of the show co hosted with the Extream, and
Speaker 1: he was like, I don't know about this story. And
Speaker 1: but then basically choke this double bag and I went
Speaker 1: back to my room. Um, oriented myself into a squat
Speaker 1: over the bags in my hand, explosively shot into two
Speaker 1: plastic bags. Um. And I want to say that it's
Speaker 1: not my roommates fault. Um, no, it is. Well, I
Speaker 1: didn't force them to not make me knock, you know,
Speaker 1: like I could have knocked. But also she was in
Speaker 1: the shower and like, no, that's also it's too long whatever. Um.
Speaker 1: So then so okay, let's get back to the I shot,
Speaker 1: I literally shot in two plastic bags. Um, My whole
Speaker 1: rooms stinks like fucking ghost. And then I set the
Speaker 1: bag on my nightstan and I'm just like, well and
Speaker 1: I'll just I'll just test to sit there for until
Speaker 1: she gets out of the bathroom another five seven minutes.
Speaker 1: Finally she leaves. I bolt to the bathroom, slam the door,
Speaker 1: invert the bag to make the ship come out into
Speaker 1: the toilet, flush that. I can't just throw away a
Speaker 1: poop drenched plastic bag into the trash, right, So I
Speaker 1: go to the sink, start washing it with detergent and soap,
Speaker 1: and just to make sure all at a molecular level,
Speaker 1: all the ship is gone. Um, so that way, so
Speaker 1: then I'm able to dispose of the bags. But then
Speaker 1: my sink is covered in poop dust, so then I
Speaker 1: have to take bleach and like a bunch of different cleaners.
Speaker 1: I like just did the whole I just threw everything
Speaker 1: at the actual literal sink and washed that down. And
Speaker 1: I was like I can't I was like, I can't
Speaker 1: believe I have to go talk to Matt Damon after
Speaker 1: this and whatever. I don't know. I was like, I
Speaker 1: was like, I shot and a plastic bag this morning.
Speaker 1: Can I tell you something, Yeah, I've done the same
Speaker 1: thing really years ago. I had to ship in the
Speaker 1: plastic bag. Back when I was sharing a space. One
Speaker 1: of my lovely roommates was taking a day and a
Speaker 1: half in the bathroom. And what do you do when
Speaker 1: you have to go? I mean, I actually asked the listeners,
Speaker 1: what do you do? You do? You have to go,
Speaker 1: and you're sharing a space, and you know when you
Speaker 1: have to go, you have to go. It's actually culture
Speaker 1: number eighteen. When you have to go, you have to go.
Speaker 1: So I shipped in the bag as well. This is
Speaker 1: years ago. This is I'm gonna say five six years ago.
Speaker 1: Destroyed a paper bag in my bad paper bag not
Speaker 1: paper plastic. I'm sorry, let's be clear, but let me
Speaker 1: tell you something. I didn't go to the fucking needless
Speaker 1: trouble and I don't think so, honey, all the craziness
Speaker 1: that you did in the bathroom, I'm not gonna go
Speaker 1: to the You go to the garbage outside, you put
Speaker 1: it in the garbage and then the garbage people deal
Speaker 1: with it. No, but then they fucking find your ass.
Speaker 1: It's like you can't know I don't think so. I
Speaker 1: don't think you're what do what do? What do dog
Speaker 1: owners do? Do? They do? They throw those ships in
Speaker 1: the garbage, them in the garbage, in the in the
Speaker 1: public guard garbages. I feel this way that you just
Speaker 1: get rid of it. I don't know. I might have
Speaker 1: gone to one of my neighbor's garbages. They have, they
Speaker 1: have the police. The NYPD has eyes all over the city.
Speaker 1: They see that they have eyes on every single trash.
Speaker 1: Can I'm convinced. I stand here a freemam, no household trash.
Speaker 1: My shit in a double bag, it counts as household trash.
Speaker 1: That's horrific. I really what you went through was horrific.
Speaker 1: But I feel that you made it more complicated? Would
Speaker 1: you often do I resent that? I just I really
Speaker 1: wanted to make sure that, um, there was no risk,
Speaker 1: there was no margin of any sort of thing wrong
Speaker 1: to happen. I get it. It's just you know, look,
Speaker 1: I think that humanity would have forgiven you had you
Speaker 1: just thrown it out God, But like there's really no
Speaker 1: moment like after you've just shipped in a bag, um
Speaker 1: and you're you still don't have access to a bathroom
Speaker 1: more toilet paper that you just sort of have this
Speaker 1: moment or you can't sit down, you can't lie down,
Speaker 1: You're you're forced to just stand there um with um
Speaker 1: like a dreadged layer of your own feces lining your
Speaker 1: your ass, your your your your fissure in your body.
Speaker 1: And that's when you realize just how human you are.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, I don't know. Look look, but it's
Speaker 1: going to be up to the listeners. Yes, like I
Speaker 1: want their feedback on this, but yes, I want their
Speaker 1: feedback on this to what do you do? What would
Speaker 1: you do? Also? Um, you know, really really had this
Speaker 1: moment where I was like this, what a low moment.
Speaker 1: But we have a guest, Oh we should do? Who
Speaker 1: just know she would handle the situation with poise, absolutely
Speaker 1: and she would She would be you would just have
Speaker 1: immediately have a good humor, but you would immediately have
Speaker 1: the the smartest, most most smart the most smartest, the smartest,
Speaker 1: most smart smartest from smartest, thank you, but uh, just
Speaker 1: the funniest take on it immediately the way that I
Speaker 1: guess we'll find out, we'll find out. But the way
Speaker 1: this person, the way this person processes information or things
Speaker 1: that happen in her life, other people's lives, and then
Speaker 1: is able to speak on them, speak on those experiences.
Speaker 1: I would say, an uncommonly intelligent person. And that intelligence,
Speaker 1: and this is very academic the way I'm speaking about
Speaker 1: that intelligence is rooted directly to their sense of humor.
Speaker 1: You know, some people it's like those those places. Those
Speaker 1: two things exist deeply different parts of their brains. Whereas, however,
Speaker 1: this person's intelligence and their sense of humor is forever
Speaker 1: length and we are grateful, and that's why we follow
Speaker 1: her at n Walk. Yes, and that's why we enjoy
Speaker 1: so much the thing she does on her social media platforms.
Speaker 1: And I will I'm about to go through the credit.
Speaker 1: So every single time this person posts, it is an event.
Speaker 1: So this person does performances of different like archetypes oftentimes
Speaker 1: that actresses will play in film, and they are so
Speaker 1: funny and dead on from a performance standpoint. From a
Speaker 1: writing standpoint, I think most of all, because it all
Speaker 1: starts with the text. Actually real Coach number twenty two,
Speaker 1: It all starts with the text, and I'm always g
Speaker 1: A G G E D D D D D. And
Speaker 1: then to top it off, you can also get more
Speaker 1: of these writings, these writings can be found at Vulture,
Speaker 1: and you can also see this person as an interviews
Speaker 1: on Vulture. Oh my god, did you read her her
Speaker 1: piece on the Jimmy's I have read every piece. I've
Speaker 1: read every single piece. You can check out my reviews
Speaker 1: of RuPaul's drag Race, which I now do solo. Thank
Speaker 1: you very much. Check And now, to top it off,
Speaker 1: you thought that it was just happening on the written page, No,
Speaker 1: because this person also is a fabulous performer, superlative. Yes,
Speaker 1: And I would say, you know, just I would say,
Speaker 1: just sit around and wait to see them perform. It
Speaker 1: happens all the time. But guess what, I have specific information.
Speaker 1: This is crazy. Alice by Heart is the new musical
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Speaker 1: Stater and MS Duncan Sheeps Duncan Sheep Spring Awakening the
Speaker 1: previous week in January, and this superstar is in the show.
Speaker 1: Literally truly excited to have this person on the podcast.
Speaker 1: I have been saying, this is a true cultural stock
Speaker 1: and I sometimes I even feel a sheep in wolves clothing.
Speaker 1: I feel the same way, or am I a wolf
Speaker 1: in sheep's cloth? Okay? Great? Number four. Clothing is the
Speaker 1: express expression. She's really the I think she's the one
Speaker 1: who is just really showing us all up. She's showing
Speaker 1: us all up because it's like we think of performers now,
Speaker 1: we think of writers now, we think we have style. No,
Speaker 1: we think we have class. She's the one. She's the
Speaker 1: only Natalie Walker, and I feel how do you feel
Speaker 1: about the poop in? Oh my God? The poop intro
Speaker 1: was flawless. I've never I've never experienced it um in
Speaker 1: my personal living space, but I did. Uh. I got
Speaker 1: diarrhea the first week at a new school. On we
Speaker 1: had to go on like a wilderness trip and literally
Speaker 1: on the way home, I was like in a car
Speaker 1: pool with two other girls who I had just met
Speaker 1: like the week before, and I got diarrhea, and I
Speaker 1: like knew it was going to happen, and I just
Speaker 1: was like, hey, can we unstop at a gas station?
Speaker 1: I think I think I think I'm getting my period.
Speaker 1: I think I'm getting my period. I'm just getting my period.
Speaker 1: I'm getting get etheriod and we have to stop. And
Speaker 1: then also while I was at NYU, there was like
Speaker 1: a stressful day at Adler and I, uh, literally did
Speaker 1: not make it to the bathroom, like I had to
Speaker 1: leave like a Shakespearean scene study class, and I was like,
Speaker 1: oh my god, I'm gonna ship myself. I can't go
Speaker 1: on as Juliet like this. I said, congratulations, congratulation. My god. Well, no,
Speaker 1: they did it. They did it because they wanted to
Speaker 1: stretch me as an actress, because they were like, you're
Speaker 1: an idiot clown, like, let's try you as this. And
Speaker 1: then um, we had this one teacher who, like Chloe
Speaker 1: Fund and the discussed on the show We're like in
Speaker 1: the culture of Adler. He was like this mythic figure
Speaker 1: where everyone's like, oh, my god, Jimmy says the darndest
Speaker 1: things and then you look back years later and you're like, oh,
Speaker 1: those were all abhorrent things. And he said to me
Speaker 1: so literally after he stopped me three lines into my
Speaker 1: roman Acjuliet scene, after I got back from shipping myself
Speaker 1: and he was like, stop, stop, stop, why is your
Speaker 1: Juliet disabled? And I was like, what Jesus, what's going on?
Speaker 1: And the thing is, it's like I was trying to
Speaker 1: play young because I've been playing four day seven year
Speaker 1: old time in my entire life he was like, no, yes,
Speaker 1: um wait, that's insane and also yes, a very real thing,
Speaker 1: and also that like these teachers they were I guess
Speaker 1: it's it's the arts, but like you can't just say
Speaker 1: whatever the fun it's rule a culture number eight. You
Speaker 1: can't just say whatever the fuck? Um wait, can we pause?
Speaker 1: I literally we can keep this. I have to must
Speaker 1: ship right now. This can't. I'm sorry. I no, Natalie,
Speaker 1: and this is this has never happened before. I'm so sorry.
Speaker 1: I've never Okay, we're gonna okay, if you guys want
Speaker 1: to keep this going for a sexually. I truly love
Speaker 1: it because that intro was He's going, oh my god.
Speaker 1: The thing is he works is very stress yes, and
Speaker 1: so that I guess that has to do with it.
Speaker 1: But the thing is he's always been like this, Yes.
Speaker 1: Do you have someone in your friend who's like in
Speaker 1: your friend group who's like always sitting, always shitting? Oh
Speaker 1: my god. Probably I feel like I just have. I
Speaker 1: don't know if they shipped that much, but they just
Speaker 1: are always announcing it, like whenever they come back from
Speaker 1: the bathroom, They're just like, oh my god, what a ship.
Speaker 1: And I'm like, I don't need to know every time exactly,
Speaker 1: and I know it was a particularly stressful week, like
Speaker 1: this is like the last week before they break. So
Speaker 1: here he is, and like there's like a lot happening,
Speaker 1: but it's we never it's never about this much ship
Speaker 1: and pop on Lost Cultures. And you know that I
Speaker 1: know that as a fan of the pod. Now, I truly,
Speaker 1: honestly this is like a perfect little break because it
Speaker 1: is so out of body for me, as such a
Speaker 1: ridiculous fan girl of the podcast, Like I feel like
Speaker 1: I am making this up. Like listening to you guys
Speaker 1: talk about me was insane. I'm like, who is this guest?
Speaker 1: I feel like I'm like in my apartment, like I
Speaker 1: usually listen to the pod when I'm like trying to
Speaker 1: power myself up to get out of my depression bed
Speaker 1: I've been, especially in the wintertime. I'm like, culture does
Speaker 1: please help me? Um? So, I truly I feel like
Speaker 1: I'm in bed and I'm like, oh my god, this
Speaker 1: guest sounds so good. Do you know that you're an
Speaker 1: obsession worthy topic of gays nationwide? That is so delightful.
Speaker 1: We have l a gay friends and they that you
Speaker 1: apparently are a character and their text threat. That Wasie
Speaker 1: Walker post. Yes I saw Louis Vertell say that, and
Speaker 1: I you know, he's very discerning. He is incredibly discerning
Speaker 1: you and all of those people. It's very weird for
Speaker 1: me because like I have been following all of them
Speaker 1: like on Twitter and like seeing them for so long,
Speaker 1: so much longer than I was ever a person, So
Speaker 1: stuff like that is incredibly psycho to me. And like
Speaker 1: like Joakim Booster, like I went to his, I went
Speaker 1: to Model Minority like you did Ago, Dan Lempert brought
Speaker 1: Dan Lempert was like, we're going to this thing, Chris Murphy.
Speaker 1: It was me, Dan and Chris and Chris like went
Speaker 1: up and was like the youth guest with Aaron. But
Speaker 1: I was like, oh my god, yes that night. I
Speaker 1: think that's why I ended up going because I like
Speaker 1: that was like the tipping point was that I was like, oh,
Speaker 1: Matt and Bowen are going on, Like I already listened
Speaker 1: to college because I am a long time fan, because
Speaker 1: we had met at and I think we had even
Speaker 1: met before that a couple of times, because I think
Speaker 1: into each other a couple of times, but when you know,
Speaker 1: chaotic time of course, and I was fully drinking the
Speaker 1: kool aidve Adler. So I was just like wearing all
Speaker 1: black and being like, oh I am the seagulls. Yes, yes,
Speaker 1: but Chloe was like the Queen of Adler. Like really
Speaker 1: Chloe was as a serious actress like the Queen of Adler.
Speaker 1: And I was a person that like at all of
Speaker 1: my panels they would be like, well, we know you
Speaker 1: can do a clown role. Yeah, I did Speed the
Speaker 1: Plow and my teacher was like, the boys were big,
Speaker 1: but they were truthful. Oh, because it's speed the plow.
Speaker 1: And yes, there's no fucking roule. There's no great role
Speaker 1: for a woman, the female. The female rolling speed the
Speaker 1: plow is literally come on, be dumb, then be a
Speaker 1: bit the end in humiliation that on Broadway. Jeremy, Okay,
Speaker 1: so listen, how did it go? It was? It was good.
Speaker 1: Thank you so much for supporting me in that moment.
Speaker 1: What I told Natalie while you were gone was, um,
Speaker 1: that she is a topic of gays nationwise, because you know,
Speaker 1: the l A gay is also like the they're they're
Speaker 1: they're text threads about her and amongst LA gays, we've
Speaker 1: taught our New York gay thread. I think that those
Speaker 1: l A gays who literally live and die for the
Speaker 1: Oscars and those kinds of things, like it really hits
Speaker 1: with them because you truly do nail the sort of
Speaker 1: like I am the actress in this movie and this
Speaker 1: is the role I'm being given, and you know you
Speaker 1: really like you must have like are you like an
Speaker 1: Oscar girl? Yeah? Yeah, Okay, So I want to talk
Speaker 1: to you about Awards season because aren't we feeling like
Speaker 1: it's a little cookie this year? It always feels cookie
Speaker 1: feel here's the Awards. Yeah, it's well. Also, I feel
Speaker 1: like this is a year where people have more than
Speaker 1: ever before, been like really staunchly advocating for less prestige,
Speaker 1: like less movies that present as prestige movie actually get recognized,
Speaker 1: which I think is like so fucking great. Um, But yeah,
Speaker 1: it feels like there's more passion on on both sides
Speaker 1: about it. Interesting, that's that's the right interpreted I think. So.
Speaker 1: But here's the weird thing, And here's here's my take
Speaker 1: right now on the whole Oscar season. And I actually
Speaker 1: think it has to do with like sort of like
Speaker 1: like the stuff that you do online and everything, the
Speaker 1: category fraud that is happening this year, it is out
Speaker 1: of control. Can we talk about the SAG Awards nominations.
Speaker 1: The supporting Actress category is not acceptable, even even the globes,
Speaker 1: all of them, all of them, because look, we've all
Speaker 1: seen the favorite. Yes, I fucking live for the favorite.
Speaker 1: I think the Favorite is incredible. You cannot look me
Speaker 1: in my eyes and tell me that Emma Stone and
Speaker 1: Rachel Vice are supporting actresses. And you know what, sometimes
Speaker 1: when the category is very thick and there's thank god,
Speaker 1: a ton of great actress potential nominees this year, thank god,
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, they are not supporting actress and you are
Speaker 1: taking it away from I'm sorry Regina King. Regina King
Speaker 1: does not get a supporting Actress nomination at the SAG Awards,
Speaker 1: and the nick Natania Rogers was saying other oh, Nathana
Speaker 1: Roger said, Michelle Yo did deserve to supporting action. She
Speaker 1: definitely deserves to be considered, but but you can not
Speaker 1: put her up against someone like I'm sorry, Emily Blunt
Speaker 1: in a quiet place, who is a lead, and it
Speaker 1: just gets to do more and then say, let's compare them,
Speaker 1: because if you compare them, you are and you're there
Speaker 1: allowed to be up and so I would move on
Speaker 1: this podcast right now. There needs to be Wow, do
Speaker 1: you think No? I definitely think because also, like even
Speaker 1: when I love the person and they end up like
Speaker 1: the fact that Violet Davis won supporting for Fences just
Speaker 1: ship Psycho, that is a leading role that Jerry is
Speaker 1: that whole fucking story more even than the character of
Speaker 1: Troy and Fences. It's like it's Rose's story really, and
Speaker 1: so she should have won lead that year. I think
Speaker 1: that's the year Emma Stone one for La La Land
Speaker 1: And I'm not mad at Emma Stone ever, but like
Speaker 1: Violence should have been nominated. Yes, I feel like it was.
Speaker 1: It was a decision that was made because the studio
Speaker 1: didn't have faith that Viola could win over Emma, and
Speaker 1: I think that was rod. I think that was a
Speaker 1: mistake because I think Violet should have been nominated in
Speaker 1: lead and should have one lead. Violet Davis should have
Speaker 1: a leading actress. This moment in time seals gender specific
Speaker 1: to they is mostly centered on on on the female.
Speaker 1: You are so right because it's something that they'll do,
Speaker 1: like like I will fucking snap my neck if Sam
Speaker 1: Rockwell gets a nomination for Vice for playing George because
Speaker 1: and you know, I love sketch comedy, but it is
Speaker 1: a sketch comedy performance. I've seen the film. That's what
Speaker 1: it looked like. It is a sketch comedy performance. You
Speaker 1: might as well have Will Ferrell doing it, and it
Speaker 1: probably would have been even better. But the thing is, like,
Speaker 1: it's true, these famous actors can fucking like basically come
Speaker 1: in and like do a dance step in these movies
Speaker 1: and they get nominated for like doing this bullshit, Whereas like,
Speaker 1: why is it hard to acknowledge real supporting actresses? And
Speaker 1: I feel like what I would say is like it's
Speaker 1: got to be a screen time thing. If you're in
Speaker 1: more than thirty, if you're in more than the movie,
Speaker 1: how about that. I'll even say that you cannot be
Speaker 1: nominated for supporting actress. It doesn't make sense. Emma Stone
Speaker 1: is the protagonist of the favorite. That's that. And when
Speaker 1: I'm talking about like iconic supporting actress performances, like what
Speaker 1: it is about what that category specifically about is about
Speaker 1: to me is making a meal out of a snack.
Speaker 1: And like, I think that's the job of that category
Speaker 1: is to reward the actress that does that. That is
Speaker 1: able to take a little bit and stretch it out
Speaker 1: like my favorite winners of the people that won for
Speaker 1: like seven minutes of screen right, I agree with you. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think that's what that's for. I think I think
Speaker 1: thank you for adding your voice to this movement. I
Speaker 1: think we need to ring the alarm. Oh I'm sucking
Speaker 1: ringing the alarm. And the thing is it really happens
Speaker 1: every year, but this year, I'm like really disappointed in
Speaker 1: actors because it's like, this is crazy, because we should
Speaker 1: know more than anyone else, like that, like the supporting players,
Speaker 1: like that's those are important roles. And it's like, I
Speaker 1: under I love that actors love Emily blood You know
Speaker 1: what I mean. I love Emily Bonds. I live for
Speaker 1: Emily Bloods. You love her so much. Fucking nominator twice
Speaker 1: and in the lead actress she was fucking great in
Speaker 1: a quiet place and I am positive she's delightful. Have
Speaker 1: you seen it? Oh? I did, because I ranked it
Speaker 1: from I ranked the soundtrack for Vulture so fucking good.
Speaker 1: And I was expecting not to like it because I
Speaker 1: went to the screening and at the top of it
Speaker 1: was one of those screenings where they come out and
Speaker 1: They're like, you're going to leave with such a smile
Speaker 1: on your face and I was like, we'll see about that,
Speaker 1: and then wow, yeah. And also she is unbelievably fuckable
Speaker 1: in this movie, like really ranking that comes an exploration
Speaker 1: of like all of my just like gay subs, like
Speaker 1: very pop in her as. Yeah, she's because she's just
Speaker 1: so uh where Julie Andrews like played the by like
Speaker 1: prim side of it. She was beautiful. Yeah, she's gorgeous,
Speaker 1: but she's sort of like she's sort of like untouchably
Speaker 1: beautiful and like almost a brunette Hitchcock blonde. But Emily
Speaker 1: Blunt is like very dry and like domineering. And the
Speaker 1: way that her first musical moment is her instructing the
Speaker 1: kids on how to take a bath, and I was like,
Speaker 1: this is so much for me bath, Like is that
Speaker 1: pretty much it? Yes? And then she and then her
Speaker 1: line readings like she does change it up, but so
Speaker 1: many of them are my favorite kind of line reading
Speaker 1: where she's just like, well, I suppose absolutely, you have
Speaker 1: no idea. I'm a obsessed with Emily Black. I think
Speaker 1: she should have had a Supporting Actress nomination for Double
Speaker 1: Work product like that if if supporting actress were correctly
Speaker 1: structured to show off performances like Emily Blunt's and Double
Speaker 1: Works product where it's like a starmaking moment, then and
Speaker 1: that's the thing is, it's like you get the sense
Speaker 1: that it's all to make up for something, and it's like,
Speaker 1: don't just do it right the first time. I hate
Speaker 1: the concept of like getting out an award for another thing,
Speaker 1: like Colin Firth went for King's speech when he should
Speaker 1: have won first single man, I'm like to stop doing
Speaker 1: Oh my god, I mean, and they they shot their
Speaker 1: load with them anyway. I mean, not that she didn't
Speaker 1: deserve the win originally, but like if she I'm sure no.
Speaker 1: Here's what it is for her though, is that they
Speaker 1: don't feel comfortable pushing her as best Lead Actress because
Speaker 1: they're like, well, we're not going to take our chances
Speaker 1: and like have that being sept close proximity with La
Speaker 1: Lallians they I think, here's what happened. They wanted the nominator.
Speaker 1: They were they were saying, how do we get the
Speaker 1: most nominations? Whereas I think what they the fair thing
Speaker 1: to do? And I think what I would have let
Speaker 1: them get away with I actually would have let them
Speaker 1: get away with this is if they put both Emma
Speaker 1: Stone and Rachel Vice in the lead, see where the
Speaker 1: chips fall, where they make guarantee. Ema Stone gets nominated.
Speaker 1: Rachel Vice probably loses out. Debatable whether she should or shouldn't,
Speaker 1: but politically it's probably the way it would go. Olivia
Speaker 1: Coleman would win Supporting Actress. And I think that out
Speaker 1: of the three of them, if you had to gun
Speaker 1: to your head, say which one is the supporting actress,
Speaker 1: it is Olivia. And are you saying and is the
Speaker 1: general conversation around Olivia that she doesn't have her chances
Speaker 1: of winning Best Lead are not super great? Well, I
Speaker 1: will not vote for her for Best Actress for SAG
Speaker 1: And my reasoning for that is it's not that I
Speaker 1: don't think it's the it's a great performance. I just
Speaker 1: think it's not a true leading performance. And I'm out
Speaker 1: of principle, I am not I am not voting for Well,
Speaker 1: I have to see everything still, but everyone's going to
Speaker 1: be so mad, but I can't resist it. But also,
Speaker 1: can you resist you're not gonna? I Well, first of all,
Speaker 1: she's non union, she's union, she's been she's simply not union.
Speaker 1: She's been she's been in think must join after season two,
Speaker 1: season three, and she's not Unions and Gaga, she's my god,
Speaker 1: you are not union. That's ridiculous. We have to have
Speaker 1: a movement. She's joining Actors Equity finally for but like
Speaker 1: for being non union. That what if it was? But
Speaker 1: if I was like God, guy's sea points like st
Speaker 1: get weather Van and I will say this. Despite having
Speaker 1: the most money here at this table, I guarantee you
Speaker 1: have can you vote? Did you play your dues? I
Speaker 1: did pay my dues. I haven't gotten screeners. They have
Speaker 1: the wrong address, froom. But I'll figure it out. You'll
Speaker 1: figure it out. But listen, as if we could all vote,
Speaker 1: what would you say? I'm forgetting what else? There's Melissa, Melissa,
Speaker 1: there's Melissa, there's um Yeah, yeah, there's Olivia. There's Melissa,
Speaker 1: there's Msgaga, there is um I guess Viola Davis missed it. Oh,
Speaker 1: there's an Emily and Mary Poppins. That's it's not an Oscar.
Speaker 1: You don't feel this way perform I don't feel this way.
Speaker 1: I loved it, but I'm like, you're not going to
Speaker 1: vote for for an Oscar, despite Julie Andrews bizarrely winning
Speaker 1: from Mary Poppins back in the day. Well it was
Speaker 1: I feel that the Julie Andrews win was basically them
Speaker 1: saying like fuck you to Audrey Hepburn Audrey because they
Speaker 1: gave Audrey My Fair Lady after Julie Andrews originated it,
Speaker 1: and then uh, they passed over Julie when they did
Speaker 1: the movie version, but then Julie did Mary Poppins, they
Speaker 1: didn't even nominate Audrey Hepburn. I live for drama like this. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they didn't even nominate Audrey, So I feel like it
Speaker 1: was sort of weirdly a show of solidarity with Julie
Speaker 1: Andrews having put in all that work and then they
Speaker 1: passed her over for someone that could not see a
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Speaker 1: It's where you refer to something by the um, by
Speaker 1: one of its parts. It's like talking about a car.
Speaker 1: It's like when you look at a car and you
Speaker 1: go a nice set of wheels. It's like you're referring
Speaker 1: to the whole by its parts. Let's hear these nobs. Um.
Speaker 1: We have Emily, as you said, we have Glenn Olivia Gaga,
Speaker 1: my own noted enemy from the asked. I don't think, well, okay,
Speaker 1: and this is gonna make me really I've actually seen
Speaker 1: I've seen the favorite. I've seen um clearly, and I've
Speaker 1: seen you. Forgive me. You haven't seen you. I haven't
Speaker 1: seen can you ever forgive me? I would have seen
Speaker 1: the wife I've seen the Wife. I honestly might go
Speaker 1: of I think I might go with Melissa McCarthy. I
Speaker 1: really really loved that movie. She was really good in
Speaker 1: that movie. Well for me, like she was she was
Speaker 1: giving you a great performance in such grounded nous, But
Speaker 1: like it didn't fully click until that courtroom scene. Right, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't know, but yeah, no I'm not. I'm not that.
Speaker 1: Sometimes it doesn't Dane on you to the courtroom scene,
Speaker 1: actually sixty six. Sometimes it doesn't dawne ontroom scene. I
Speaker 1: couldn't remember what I said. Remembered famously last year who
Speaker 1: got my vote? Margot Wow for Sag for Sag And
Speaker 1: it was the courtroom scene that did it. But mostly
Speaker 1: that scene where she was like putting her makeup on.
Speaker 1: All Right, any scene of putting on makeup or taking
Speaker 1: off makeup, I want to watch for it. Can you
Speaker 1: can you do that for your next audition video map
Speaker 1: makeup scene? Yeah? Um, I've like private moment. Chloe Fineman again,
Speaker 1: um has has has sort of mimified steering, I think,
Speaker 1: which I saw like right after I saw Tully and
Speaker 1: I was like steering real acting, and then I saw
Speaker 1: that video from Chloe I was like, how her mind
Speaker 1: person Um, I feel like you could do like a
Speaker 1: bathtube acting thing. I'm super into bathtube acting moments with
Speaker 1: the wine, um so many coin or the thing where
Speaker 1: you go underwater. I'm just long enough. Need to breathe again,
Speaker 1: and you can put like a fake montage over like
Speaker 1: remember what she's thinking about? Ye wait, you need to
Speaker 1: do private makeup moment. Yeah, private must happen like maybe
Speaker 1: like the like interior like monologue like written below. Yes,
Speaker 1: because I do need more prop work ones. I think
Speaker 1: that's the next front that I've done a wordless one.
Speaker 1: I feel like I'm just I need to continue continue shifting.
Speaker 1: Although I feel like is this here to say? I
Speaker 1: feel like, were you mind? A lot of the comedy
Speaker 1: in your other videos is that these are characters who
Speaker 1: are peripheral to some lead character. Is that there to say?
Speaker 1: It's like, it's like, is it deliberate in that it
Speaker 1: doesn't It isn't usually the lead role. Yeah. Yeah, that's
Speaker 1: the thing is I feel like the makeup the makeup
Speaker 1: scenes are usually in movies that I actually like, where
Speaker 1: I think the character is actually compelling legitimately, isn't like
Speaker 1: a man writing a woman and like, oh my god,
Speaker 1: but I think, but I think I think this isn't
Speaker 1: this is a good except the makeup thing is a good.
Speaker 1: Except yes, I think I think it's just it's it's
Speaker 1: like niche enough where it's like, yeah, I think it's
Speaker 1: you can make it work. But anyway, yeah, this I mean,
Speaker 1: and then support should look at supporting. Yeah it's a joke, Okay,
Speaker 1: Amy Adams in Ice, who you who you love? I
Speaker 1: loved um, I loved Emily Blunt in a quiet place,
Speaker 1: Margot Robbie Mary Queen of scott which is insane thing.
Speaker 1: It's psycho that that's happened. When the when the trailer
Speaker 1: first came out, everyone was a little was pretty gooped.
Speaker 1: They were like, this looks amazing, this is gonna be
Speaker 1: great everyone. I was the only one saying, I think
Speaker 1: Margo looks better because Marco is like, Margot is doing
Speaker 1: Eddie Redmain's voice. Yeah, she's she's doing Anie Redmain drag, drag,
Speaker 1: that lack of eyebrows too, Like it's all, yeah, it's
Speaker 1: all Eddie redmaan drag. That's all it comes back to.
Speaker 1: And then the favorites and then the favorites girls, Yes, um,
Speaker 1: I think Rachel vices. I think Rachel VISs actually has
Speaker 1: the hardest part. She well, that's a tough one. Like
Speaker 1: Emma Emma gets like end Baxter Rule, which is like
Speaker 1: fun and cute. And yes, I think that Emma Stone
Speaker 1: has an extremely difficult part because she has to appear
Speaker 1: like likable to the Queen while we know she's being sneaky,
Speaker 1: and she didn't do this like Reese Wetherspoon and Vanity
Speaker 1: fair thing of like I'm being really sneaky and it's obvious,
Speaker 1: but no one that I'm talking to can tell. It's
Speaker 1: like Emma Stone was genuinely like you get while the
Speaker 1: other characters bought into her. And then Rachel Weiss has
Speaker 1: to play exactly and Rachel Weiss has to play like
Speaker 1: I fucking see you, bitch and watch it. And also
Speaker 1: she just has to say so strong while also being
Speaker 1: so They're all three of them are just so. It's
Speaker 1: an amazing that the end. Yeah, I love him so much.
Speaker 1: I loved the lobster. I loved killing up a sacred
Speaker 1: deer like he's miss Orgos. Yes, Orgos, he creates a world.
Speaker 1: He creates a world, and I in tone specific tone,
Speaker 1: the best. I forgot that he was killing it a
Speaker 1: sacred dear, what a different thing he can do it
Speaker 1: all that bit. Yes, and that movie is really fucking
Speaker 1: good and I wish I wish that. I wish that
Speaker 1: it felt like you know what's crazy too? That movie
Speaker 1: doesn't get an ensemble lamination, oh because everyone is good
Speaker 1: in it, even the guys. Guys do their jobs similar
Speaker 1: to the men and Mom and Mia, where they like
Speaker 1: know that it's not about them, but they're still doing
Speaker 1: their best, like they're committing to it, but they also
Speaker 1: know what their role in the movie is. Nicholas women
Speaker 1: making a meal out of it, making a meal out
Speaker 1: of a snack, make me out of it. And even
Speaker 1: um Taylor Sis boyfriend. Yeah, he was good, he was
Speaker 1: very good. He was good. I liked it all pretty
Speaker 1: much all around. And it's bizarre because it's like, I
Speaker 1: think it's weird because sag After really fucked up again
Speaker 1: with this nominate, with the film nominations or the cast nominations,
Speaker 1: because they did both of their things that I think
Speaker 1: are wrong. They did the thing where it's like, well,
Speaker 1: it's a big cash so it asked to be nominated.
Speaker 1: Bohemian Rhapsody. It is a hellscape rash the ensemble of Bohemian.
Speaker 1: I thought my brain was broken when I read I
Speaker 1: really did, literally for doing what? For doing what? That
Speaker 1: movie is one of is one of the worst things
Speaker 1: I've sat through. I think. Remember, I couldn't see it,
Speaker 1: but I was just like, who is in the movie?
Speaker 1: I've heard nothing about any I've heard nothing about any performances,
Speaker 1: even like he was terrible. All Rommie does is he
Speaker 1: sticks his fist up in the air and like just
Speaker 1: the a actually that he takes with with doing Freddie.
Speaker 1: I thought was that it was so cheesy and corny.
Speaker 1: That was a sketch performance too. Absolutely. I mean there
Speaker 1: was moments towards the end where I was like, Okay,
Speaker 1: I guess it's getting me a little bit. But that
Speaker 1: has so much more to do with Queen than the
Speaker 1: movie was. Like that music is full proof. Yeah, you're like, oh,
Speaker 1: the music is good, like and that's not that doesn't
Speaker 1: needed the container of this film that is two and
Speaker 1: a half hours long. It's like, and this is my thing.
Speaker 1: It's like, so can you read the nominations for the films?
Speaker 1: I believe it's Foreman d Crazy Rich Asians, Black Panther,
Speaker 1: and then a Star is Born and a fifth one. Okay,
Speaker 1: sorry sorry, the best Ensemble. Okay, oh sorry, sorry I
Speaker 1: skipped through, um a weekend. Okay, here we go. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Stars Born, Black Panther, Black Klansman, Bohemian Napstick, Crazy Rich Asians,
Speaker 1: Black Klansman. I don't I didn't see that. I have
Speaker 1: to see. That's just good. It was good. It wasn't
Speaker 1: like it wasn't the best Spike Lee. It wasn't like
Speaker 1: the best Like to me, it's like, I have to
Speaker 1: see a Black Klansman still. But if that seems like
Speaker 1: if they want to nominate that, it's it's great. But
Speaker 1: for me, it's like, Okay, then we have Black Panther
Speaker 1: and Crazy Rich Asians, two big casts, two great casts.
Speaker 1: But like but but it's like Prestige Awards. I don't know.
Speaker 1: I think Black Panthers phenomenal and I love I live
Speaker 1: for Crazy Rich Asians. They don't feel and it's not
Speaker 1: that they need to feel awardsy, it's just like hot,
Speaker 1: did we just do this because it was a big cast? Right?
Speaker 1: But I still love that they're both nominated. But then like,
Speaker 1: on the other side of that, it's like then my
Speaker 1: Behaving Rhapsody, Why Star is Born Bohemian Rhapsody. I think
Speaker 1: they I think it probably came out at the right time,
Speaker 1: and like, um, I think they saw a big cast,
Speaker 1: and I think that off this often happened. Not a
Speaker 1: big cast, it is they just don't all don't do anything.
Speaker 1: Is there literally, like any person other than m Malleck
Speaker 1: that's like a person I really. That's my other criticism
Speaker 1: with the movie, the supporting characters. It's like the rest
Speaker 1: of the It's like the rest of the members of
Speaker 1: Queen have no personality, no personalities. And then it's the
Speaker 1: woman that he kept like that he had a relationship with,
Speaker 1: the most vacant performance ever, and the man that he
Speaker 1: ended up just partnering with before he passed away. Like
Speaker 1: it's like, truly such peripheral, unrealized characters, Like, yeah, that
Speaker 1: that's Alan Leach, who plays the manipulative gay lover, the
Speaker 1: character I hate, is performing in the act. But it's
Speaker 1: like what else I mean? And then with the Star
Speaker 1: is Born, it's like, Okay, you really like those two performances, Yeah,
Speaker 1: and maybe Sam Elliott And then no one else does anything.
Speaker 1: No one else has given really an opportunity to do anything,
Speaker 1: William and if William and Chantela nominated as part of
Speaker 1: the cast, well that because those are the only two
Speaker 1: other characters that I cared about. Who are you nominating
Speaker 1: instead of them? Like that stretch of the movie is
Speaker 1: the best, best part of the movie. You know what's
Speaker 1: crazy The rules are and this is a big I
Speaker 1: don't think so, honey from me is you have to
Speaker 1: appear on your own title card to be nominated as
Speaker 1: part of the cast. So Harry Shum Jr. From Crazy
Speaker 1: Ridge Asians gets nominated. And you know who doesn't? The
Speaker 1: single mom? You know who doesn't? Um. You could rattle
Speaker 1: up Ken Jong, probably know Ken Jong does, but I
Speaker 1: guarantee his wife doesn't like big, big roles in the movie.
Speaker 1: Um gemma chance husband in the movie does not get
Speaker 1: a nomination. Major parts of the film, major roles Harry
Speaker 1: Shum Jr. Fucking God, blessing, appearing in the post credit.
Speaker 1: I lovely for appearing in the post credits. I mean
Speaker 1: between those movies, for me, what makes the most sense
Speaker 1: is honestly, Black Panther. That's probably what because great entmble,
Speaker 1: great performances considered across the board. Yes, across the board.
Speaker 1: But can I say something controversial. It's crazy to me
Speaker 1: that the person being singled out as the one who
Speaker 1: gives like the best slash most memorable performance that people
Speaker 1: are like maybe supporting actor is Michael B. Jordan's. I
Speaker 1: think he gives the weakest performance in the movie. I
Speaker 1: think villain and showed up and acted tough. I think
Speaker 1: that if there's a if there's a performance in that
Speaker 1: movie that is superlative, it is Oh. I think Denigeria
Speaker 1: is absolutely a star. I what you're talking about with
Speaker 1: Michael B. Jordan is actually something that I loved about
Speaker 1: his performance because I felt like that character, because of
Speaker 1: his past, because of yeah, he would have like tried
Speaker 1: to harden himself after like that heartbreaking disappointment and like
Speaker 1: the moment with his father like that, Once that moment
Speaker 1: between him and Sterling K. Brown happened, I was like, Oh,
Speaker 1: I get it. He has like invented this protective persona
Speaker 1: of a bad guy, Like all of this is stemming
Speaker 1: from that. And then I felt like that also carried
Speaker 1: through to his uh his climactic scene, like there there
Speaker 1: was so much vulnerability there. Um so I felt like
Speaker 1: it was sort of a damn bursting type thing. Um
Speaker 1: So I actually I really I really love him in
Speaker 1: that movie. For me, it's it's it is the Nigeria
Speaker 1: raser to to not watch to watch that movie and
Speaker 1: not be like the supporting performance in this movie that
Speaker 1: should we should be talking about. Sure, And I feel
Speaker 1: like it's because she's not as big of a star. Sure, Sure,
Speaker 1: but she will be fine, she'll be fine money, but
Speaker 1: a Broadway playwright. She but I want to give credit
Speaker 1: where it's due, the nomination. But of course when we're
Speaker 1: when we're talking about when we are literally having this
Speaker 1: thing of okay, I pooped earlier, Yeah, I'm crying over famously,
Speaker 1: it's rule of coach number eighty. What do we not
Speaker 1: do over spilled milk? But but it's it's just interesting
Speaker 1: to me. Obviously the industry is like chopping at the
Speaker 1: bit to want to reward Michael B. Jordan's and I
Speaker 1: think it's like, Okay, I know we're excited about this movie.
Speaker 1: But for me, anyway, I hear what you're saying. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I hear what you're saying, but I also hear what
Speaker 1: you're saying because I like noticed it. But I felt
Speaker 1: like it was part of his performance. And that's stuff
Speaker 1: that I'm always down to discuss, Like I'm so much
Speaker 1: more interested in discussing from a standpoint of like I
Speaker 1: see what this actor was doing. Then I am from
Speaker 1: the standpoint of like, oh, they're bad, like I was
Speaker 1: Shaw Williams and Cabaret, and I loved what she did.
Speaker 1: And then I felt like a lot of the reviews
Speaker 1: were just like she was bad, and I'm like, no,
Speaker 1: that's the point, and she's doing a thing and it's
Speaker 1: actually so stupid to be like she's bad because she's
Speaker 1: one of the smartest actresses around. I think she's so
Speaker 1: good and I feel pretty, which like I didn't live
Speaker 1: for the movie, but she's brilliant in it. She's like
Speaker 1: the most compelling part of it. She's like giving you
Speaker 1: a baby Madaline con performance. And I was so happy
Speaker 1: to see her like being dumb and having fun at
Speaker 1: the end, at the gall or whatever the big event is,
Speaker 1: Like that is like the true like beat before she
Speaker 1: starts talking. Yes, when she it's like it's insane and
Speaker 1: it's inspired and it is brilliant and I'm sure it's
Speaker 1: all intentional and deliberate, and you know her head on
Speaker 1: the table, although I will say she's absolutely heinous and
Speaker 1: venom that I'm unfortunately, why is she in this one?
Speaker 1: Like what possessed her to do this? You know she's
Speaker 1: in a movie and probably so excited for her in
Speaker 1: the Fossy Show. I'm going to lose my mind. I
Speaker 1: totally forgot. Yeah, she's she's Gwen Burden in the Fossey
Speaker 1: Show with Sam Rockwell, wait are they're doing so? I'm sorry,
Speaker 1: I'm so oh no, no worries so played dumb. So
Speaker 1: it's a Fosse It's it's a Bob Fossey like growth
Speaker 1: retrospective things. Um no, it's um X is doing it,
Speaker 1: I believe, and it's I think, yeah, I think it's Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's a mini series. I think it's like looking at
Speaker 1: a specific section of his life. I forget which show
Speaker 1: he's working on in the context of the show, but
Speaker 1: it's Sam Rockwell as Bob Fosse and Michelle as Gwen
Speaker 1: Verdon and I'm so excited for it. And they're like
Speaker 1: a bunch of normal Leo Butts is like, it's yeah,
Speaker 1: it's they're really casting like a bunch of legit theater
Speaker 1: actors to round out round out the cast. But I
Speaker 1: love very excited about it. I mean, Michelle fucking books work,
Speaker 1: Michelle books. I mean she'sn't like a lot of ship.
Speaker 1: Good for her, Yeah, it's great for her. Whenever I
Speaker 1: see her happy, it really does film spirit because you know,
Speaker 1: there have been periods of her life where she has
Speaker 1: been unhappy, and so we love to see her happy,
Speaker 1: even when she's absolutely learning her line fifteen minutes before
Speaker 1: there's a scene where she gets fired from her job
Speaker 1: because and she's like, she's literally the movie is horrible. Stop.
Speaker 1: But Jenny s but you said is by far the
Speaker 1: best part of it because she knows how bad the
Speaker 1: movie is. Yes, I was talking to someone about your
Speaker 1: assessment of her and that when she does thirty plus
Speaker 1: year old woman who's someone who's lived a full, full
Speaker 1: adult life point she's going to die and she the
Speaker 1: way she feels about her life ending is it's so
Speaker 1: genius and honestly that maybe I love that. What is
Speaker 1: the part of the movie that Michelle Wills gets fired
Speaker 1: and that you were going to say, so she gets
Speaker 1: fired because Tom Hardy does some ship where like she's
Speaker 1: like he like us, it's his girlfriend is Michelle Williams,
Speaker 1: and he like uses like some stuff in her job.
Speaker 1: She's like a big fancy lawyer. And then she's like
Speaker 1: carrying her little box of ship outside of her like
Speaker 1: corporate building, and she goes, you are unbelievable. I can't
Speaker 1: believe this. How could you? And it's like less personality
Speaker 1: and character than that. I feel like, you know what,
Speaker 1: don't call me anymore? And they live together. She's like
Speaker 1: and then like, I don't know, it's funniest honestly, maybe
Speaker 1: maybe she's actually genius in it, Like Okay, I don't know.
Speaker 1: Are we Are we getting a revived discussion around camp
Speaker 1: because I feel like a star Sporn sort of kicked
Speaker 1: that into gear. Maybe Venom is camp. Maybe Venom I'll
Speaker 1: tell you what was Camp nut Cracker? In the Four Realms?
Speaker 1: Was Camp Bring Myself? Kiera Knightley is doing Burnette Peters
Speaker 1: as moaning Myrtle, and it is leavable. The layers in
Speaker 1: that moaning Myrtle, you can do impressions truly referenced trickingometry
Speaker 1: in my brain. Kiera Nightley has a big heel turn
Speaker 1: as the sugar Plump Ferry, where it turns out she
Speaker 1: was evil the whole time. I love that literally a
Speaker 1: moment where like the maybe she'sn't talking like this, and
Speaker 1: then she like mobilizes the toy soldiers she has just
Speaker 1: brought to life against Clara. And then she like the
Speaker 1: first thing she does she turns back whence Whence their
Speaker 1: person says, she guess, hello boys, And it's unreal. I
Speaker 1: truly gassed, honestly. The thing is, though, like you had
Speaker 1: to think like maybe that was going to happen, because
Speaker 1: whenever there's like a huge actor in a part and
Speaker 1: you're like, why are they ask that question? Are they evil?
Speaker 1: Richard E. Grant is the not kraker at the Four Realms.
Speaker 1: He's like the king of the Shiver Realm. He's the
Speaker 1: king of a snowrooms booking. All of a sudden, he's
Speaker 1: the fucking oh my god, why am I blinking on
Speaker 1: his name from last year just to call me by
Speaker 1: her name? And uh, he's like the Stolberger this year. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he's he's popping up in everything and he's can you
Speaker 1: ever forgive me? And to me debris mussessed in him
Speaker 1: and like he's having like yes, like thirsting for and
Speaker 1: it destroys me. And now she like, because she knows
Speaker 1: that I saw his two major films this year. She
Speaker 1: will text me like, just photos of him and Natalie.
Speaker 1: What's wrong with me? Yeah, I've seen Instagram story and
Speaker 1: I think she's included Richard and some right. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: yeah to me, he'll always He's always in Forever Spiceworld
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Speaker 1: Speaking of formative a perfect I guess we should ask
Speaker 1: the question that we ask every single one of our guests,
Speaker 1: and we were asking this question, look at fifty two
Speaker 1: minutes of this episode, which I love. I love that
Speaker 1: for us to be fair, thirty minutes did so what
Speaker 1: was the culture Natalie Walker that made you say culture
Speaker 1: is for me? It was the culture that formed you
Speaker 1: at a young age, that truly brought you. It's a whirlwind,
Speaker 1: but you ended up in this chair right now. Yes, yes, Um,
Speaker 1: I am sort of a fifty fifty split between both
Speaker 1: of my parents, and both of my parents have like
Speaker 1: wildly desparate cultural influences, and so from my dad, my
Speaker 1: dad had a whole collection of VHS tapes of The
Speaker 1: Twilight Zone with like a huge booklet that he got
Speaker 1: on like eBay in the early days that was like
Speaker 1: a synopsis of every episode before like DVDs came with
Speaker 1: that stuff. Um, And so there was like a huge
Speaker 1: booklet with synopsis of every episode. And I loved watching
Speaker 1: those so much. I love never had this before. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I really love Twilet Zone. And I'm so excited for
Speaker 1: the Jordan people. Every announcement about the Jordan peele version incredible.
Speaker 1: I'm so excited. Just like the one thing I do
Speaker 1: want so badly. And when I was at Comic Con
Speaker 1: for Vulture, there was God what was his name? I'm
Speaker 1: I feel so bad, but he is um the co
Speaker 1: producer on New Twilight Zone. But he was there to
Speaker 1: plug the new um oh Jean Gray movie The Turner,
Speaker 1: and so they brought him in and with all of
Speaker 1: those I was like, I don't care about the actual
Speaker 1: comic con thing. I was like, I want to get
Speaker 1: into Twilight's and so I was like, we talked about
Speaker 1: Twilight Zone forever, and I was and I was just like,
Speaker 1: all I want is a remake of Time Enough at
Speaker 1: Last with Jeffrey Wright in the British Meritage role, because
Speaker 1: that's one of my favorite episodes of Twilight Zone ever.
Speaker 1: But I would all the time. I love Time Enough
Speaker 1: at Last, which is um the one where he just
Speaker 1: wants to read books and his wife is horrible to
Speaker 1: him and everyone is mean to him, and then he
Speaker 1: goes down into uh the like basement of his office, UM,
Speaker 1: and he and like there's a huge bomb that goes
Speaker 1: off above ground, and he comes back up and everyone
Speaker 1: has gone. But then he's like walking around and there's
Speaker 1: a library and he's like, oh, I have all the
Speaker 1: time to read all of these books, like all of
Speaker 1: these books are mine. And then his glasses break and
Speaker 1: he is blind without them, and he's just alone with
Speaker 1: all these books. And it's the most heartbreaking thing because
Speaker 1: I'm I'm legally blind without my contacts. Um so like,
Speaker 1: and I grew up with like coke bottle glasses. I
Speaker 1: had no friends growing up, like none at all, and
Speaker 1: so I really felt for this, like, oh, sad, sad,
Speaker 1: middle aged man um with a bitch wife. Who Now
Speaker 1: I'm like, maybe we should do it where it's gender
Speaker 1: because really a big part of it looking back is
Speaker 1: that his wife is like a nightmare. Bit yeah that's me. Um.
Speaker 1: I love that one. I love um. Monsters Are Do
Speaker 1: on Maple Street is one where like this whole street
Speaker 1: just like random lights keep going off and it's like
Speaker 1: a McCarthy is um uh parallel. It's so good and
Speaker 1: I feel like now is the exact right time to
Speaker 1: bring it back because like so much of it in
Speaker 1: its original incarnation was like about social parallels, and Jordan
Speaker 1: Peele is obviously the exact right person to do it.
Speaker 1: They tried to reboot it in two thousand two, which
Speaker 1: is a very fun like bad Watch. There's an episode
Speaker 1: where Katherine Heigl, yes, yes, she was a baby. Katherine
Speaker 1: Heigel goes back in time to kill Hitler and she
Speaker 1: but like she goes back too far and she's Hitler's babysitter.
Speaker 1: We It's an episode called Cradle of Darkness and it
Speaker 1: is truly unreal. It is unreal. There's a spoiler, there's
Speaker 1: the way that that ending happens as Wild and I
Speaker 1: won't spoil it for you because it is a camp
Speaker 1: classic to me, insane. She's like maybe even like she's
Speaker 1: like twenty two or something. During it, Forest Whittaker does
Speaker 1: the rod sterling like voiceovers and stuff. Yeah, it's it's wild.
Speaker 1: Molly Sims does I have a Beholder? Which is another
Speaker 1: one of my favorite episodes. Yeah, it's all of these
Speaker 1: people that are either about to become huge or are
Speaker 1: people that Hollywood thought was going to be like these
Speaker 1: are these are the next people? Oh? Amber Tamblin is
Speaker 1: an in an episode. It's wild, um, because I'm excited
Speaker 1: for an actual good one. It's one of my goals
Speaker 1: as an actor to do something scary. Yeah, I really
Speaker 1: want to do something scary, and you know, what's crazy.
Speaker 1: I hate scary shit, like I really bothershed me, but
Speaker 1: I always I in my writing sometimes like and like
Speaker 1: I would love to perform something scary because I love
Speaker 1: immersive stuff like that, like stuff that I don't understand.
Speaker 1: You won't even watch Killing Eve because you think it's
Speaker 1: too scary. Well anyway, and it's how dare you Olivia
Speaker 1: cole than that No no no no no no no no.
Speaker 1: Fleback Fish is in Fleaback the day you have to see.
Speaker 1: I haven't seen the whole way here. I'm so I'm bad,
Speaker 1: So listen. But I want to get back into twiltone
Speaker 1: because I want to connect it to something. But what
Speaker 1: was the other? Fift is from my mom? And my
Speaker 1: mom was more musically inclined. And my mom also like
Speaker 1: volunteered at our church and like she's not super religious now,
Speaker 1: like she never goes, but I think she just wanted
Speaker 1: to be in charge of as many things as possible,
Speaker 1: so she would like direct art. Yeah, she was like
Speaker 1: she would direct our Christmas pageant every year, and she
Speaker 1: put in uh, she like scrapped the script from before
Speaker 1: she was running it, and then she was like, we're
Speaker 1: going to put in all these songs from Preacher's Wife
Speaker 1: and like who would imagine a King and Sister Act
Speaker 1: and so like my mom, but all of those songs
Speaker 1: that and so six Stract two I feel like was
Speaker 1: very incredically formative, truly one of my favorite favorite movies.
Speaker 1: And it makes me, it makes me crazy that they
Speaker 1: did a Broadway musical of The Lesser Sister Act. It's
Speaker 1: how can you not have Joyful? Joyful? How can you?
Speaker 1: It's It's one of those examples of a sequel that
Speaker 1: is so objectively superior to the original. I've never happened
Speaker 1: sharell Lee Ralph speaking of support and making a meal
Speaker 1: out of a snack. Shaw Lee Ralph has an entire
Speaker 1: arc over the course of Joyful Joyful In three cutaway
Speaker 1: shots to sharell Lee Ralph, she's mad and we're like,
Speaker 1: oh no, she's not going to support. The middle of
Speaker 1: the song, she's kind of getting into it, and she lives,
Speaker 1: she lives, and we went on a whole journey. The
Speaker 1: line I am so proud of you that is acting. Yeah.
Speaker 1: The line take off your robes your teacher says, take
Speaker 1: off your robes is one of my favorite headset Harriet
Speaker 1: headset woman, that your teachers. I've never seen they never
Speaker 1: yell at me, never yet, never yell at shut up,
Speaker 1: baby baby. Jennifer love Hewitt is in the class doing
Speaker 1: nothing great iconic whoopee and yea icon a happy day
Speaker 1: when she's la la la la la la God the
Speaker 1: best that there's a scene where a male student hits
Speaker 1: a whistletone when oh, yeah, it was higher than that,
Speaker 1: but it is, oh my god, such a good movie. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and Lauren Hill when she sings his Eyes on the Sparrow,
Speaker 1: that was a star's born moment. It's her and her
Speaker 1: best friend in the movie are just like sitting at
Speaker 1: a piano and they do the most gorgeous harmonies. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's And then they had this exchange where, um, Lauren's
Speaker 1: goes to the friend. She goes, hey, you could really
Speaker 1: make it, and she goes, no, this is for church.
Speaker 1: You could really make it, and Lauren's like, wow, I
Speaker 1: don't know. And then basically what you get from the
Speaker 1: scene is that she could really make it. Famously, Lauren
Speaker 1: Hill really made actually real culture number one hundred and three. Famously,
Speaker 1: Lauren Hill really really made it. I don't know if
Speaker 1: she did that. That's debatable. Well, no, but then but
Speaker 1: now it's like it's but now it's just whatever we've
Speaker 1: we've We've had a whole with Chloe. We had a
Speaker 1: whole discussion about Chloe, about about miseducation. Anyway, Um, this
Speaker 1: is these are two two great pieces and they do
Speaker 1: sort of add more texture to Natalie. What Natalie does?
Speaker 1: I think. I think it's we obviously have the performance
Speaker 1: and the creation. Can I connect something? Because I famously
Speaker 1: am a Walt Disney World gay. Now being the fan
Speaker 1: of Twilight own that you are, have you experienced the
Speaker 1: Tower of Terror? I have? I have. I was very scared.
Speaker 1: I want to go back so badly. I have not
Speaker 1: been to Disney forever, and being a huge fanatic of
Speaker 1: the podcast as I am, I've heard so much about
Speaker 1: Disney and I'm like, oh, every time you make me
Speaker 1: want to go, you make me want to go back.
Speaker 1: But I did. I did go the last time I
Speaker 1: was there, when I was like or something, I'm so scared.
Speaker 1: I was so scared. I think that the Tower of
Speaker 1: Terror crosses over into art. Actually it is. It is
Speaker 1: actually an artful ride and the entire experience is amazing
Speaker 1: and even into what sleep no More wishes it was sleep,
Speaker 1: no market only dream of being Tower of Terror whenever
Speaker 1: that whenever like the cast members that two are getting
Speaker 1: lazy and being nice. I'm like, no, no, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: that's not it. You have to commit. And when they are,
Speaker 1: when they're scary, that is when it is art. I
Speaker 1: have to tell you, like from from your right, from
Speaker 1: beginning to end, the Tower of Terror is. If they
Speaker 1: ever tear it down, like to put some bullshit with
Speaker 1: their I p up. I'm I'm an actually down there
Speaker 1: in protest because i feel it should be a national landmark.
Speaker 1: I'm not even kidding. We have to have towers tower
Speaker 1: on this on this planet because if we lose it,
Speaker 1: I will be So we have to. It's like it's
Speaker 1: like it's like, honestly, like the Arc to Triumph, This
Speaker 1: this thing that most that people with disabilities cannot access,
Speaker 1: so they can they can. It is a a compliant
Speaker 1: and you know it is compliant. You know. Wait, honestly,
Speaker 1: it's so fucking good and and like I love that,
Speaker 1: Like you can go there now and experience that piece
Speaker 1: of culture that is the Twilight Zone. Through that the
Speaker 1: attraction which millions of people do every every day. You
Speaker 1: know I love millions thousands, um millions do every year roughly,
Speaker 1: but um, I have to tell you what's happening in
Speaker 1: Orlando right now. What they're gearing up for is to
Speaker 1: shake them up, shake them up. It's shake up. Are
Speaker 1: you big? Next time you went to Disney World? It's
Speaker 1: been a long time. Yeah, no, No, it was my
Speaker 1: junior year of college or something. Okay, so it's it's yeah,
Speaker 1: it's sort of. It's sort of recent. But I didn't
Speaker 1: have that much time, and I don't have the encyclopedic
Speaker 1: knowledge of it. I have large swats of blind spots.
Speaker 1: Just I wouldn't dare take a culture kind of time
Speaker 1: with this in the poet. But I feel that in
Speaker 1: the early days I used to really give updates and
Speaker 1: I just want to give a short update. So Star
Speaker 1: Wars Land is coming, and it looks like there was
Speaker 1: going to be a Millennium Falcon attraction. It's opening, um
Speaker 1: like late fall. So this year, um, there's gonna be
Speaker 1: a Millennium Falcon attraction. Which one it's going to be
Speaker 1: six people. One is the pilot ones like the shooter,
Speaker 1: ones like the this one, so that it's gonna be
Speaker 1: a would be like a hologram oscar Isaac. I would
Speaker 1: be into it. Yeah, for sure, he could break my arm. Yeah. Um.
Speaker 1: Then there's gonna be a Battle of the First Order attraction,
Speaker 1: which is like more of a dark ride experience, and
Speaker 1: that whole thing, And those are the two attractions there.
Speaker 1: There's gonna be a cantina which is alcohol, which you
Speaker 1: know it's different for for Disney, and very much very
Speaker 1: that um toy storyline is up in Roaring. I have
Speaker 1: to just add something. By the end of the space
Speaker 1: I keep coming. Um. Epcot is getting a Guardian too,
Speaker 1: the Galaxy roller coaster, which is the biggest building in Epcot.
Speaker 1: It's going to be state of the art. You can
Speaker 1: look and see what kind of technology they're using for
Speaker 1: the ride system. It's going to be out of control.
Speaker 1: It's gonna be able to swing three sixty and be
Speaker 1: a fully launched roller coaster. Um, you are fucking no.
Speaker 1: I just want you to get through that, um and
Speaker 1: et cetera. And also over at Universal there's gonna be
Speaker 1: a Harry Potter roller coaster, which will be the most
Speaker 1: highly themed full roller coaster in our land, which I
Speaker 1: don't I don't know what that means. Highly but our
Speaker 1: beer at the top, you guys to Bay and then
Speaker 1: Natalie Walker does. Yes, there's rumors that we're getting a
Speaker 1: Jurassic Park roller coaster that will be themed to Raptors,
Speaker 1: that will be eventually as high fet and be launched
Speaker 1: and be the fastest roller coaster in our land. I'm
Speaker 1: not dragging you. I'm just saying some of I love
Speaker 1: a coaster will actually know. The more I have, the
Speaker 1: more I evolve in my relationship to theme parks, the
Speaker 1: more I realize that coasters are key and those more
Speaker 1: like that Millennium falcon right that you just described. I
Speaker 1: was like, as soon as you said that, I was like, okay,
Speaker 1: Like cool, there's a pilot, there's this, there's a that,
Speaker 1: there's a that like literally all that amounts to is
Speaker 1: one person pressing a button. They're literally yes, like it's
Speaker 1: it doesn't matter, it doesn't matter. And but then but
Speaker 1: then I'm thinking, oh, but the coasters are what I
Speaker 1: actually like. Those are like because the button thing, it's like, well,
Speaker 1: I can just stay at home and play video and
Speaker 1: you often do, and as I often do. But then, um,
Speaker 1: it's the it's the coaster, it's the highly themed coasters.
Speaker 1: We need coasters, and don't worry because they're coming. I
Speaker 1: sometimes feel that these theme parks try to impress us
Speaker 1: with screens and buttons, and it's just I can get
Speaker 1: that anywhere, baby, I just truly I don't need to play.
Speaker 1: I don't need to pay upwards of hundreds of dollars
Speaker 1: to play a video exactly. Oh, do you have an
Speaker 1: update on Tron roller Coaster coming? Yes, it's coming, and
Speaker 1: they've just broken ground. It's anniversary and also all of
Speaker 1: tomorrow it's so it's just disney World for now, just
Speaker 1: Disney World for now, but Orlando's getting it and it's
Speaker 1: coming has been broken, They've shut down, They've shut down
Speaker 1: the the, the the railroad in order to do it,
Speaker 1: and they're gonna move the the tomorrow Land Speedway to
Speaker 1: make room for this, and it's gonna go right behind
Speaker 1: Space Mountain and all all of tomorrow Land is getting
Speaker 1: a visual rebrand to go along with Tron because it's hard,
Speaker 1: it's hard to make futuristic with Trons there, and but
Speaker 1: also a lot of people are would you agree that
Speaker 1: I feel like light Cycle is the spiritual successor of
Speaker 1: Space Mountain and to put that next to Space Mountain
Speaker 1: is very much in all about Eve situation, and they
Speaker 1: will fight. They will fight, they will it will be tense.
Speaker 1: The hundred yards between the two attractions will be tense.
Speaker 1: It will be at ten hundred yards. Here's here's what
Speaker 1: you will never get anywhere else. Tower of Terror is
Speaker 1: the Addison to Wit. You will never get this on
Speaker 1: any other podcast where we describe Whalt Disney World rides
Speaker 1: in terms of Addison de Witt, in terms of Betty,
Speaker 1: in terms of and Baxter. Bitch, we're comparing like this.
Speaker 1: This is what you get here, celest Home is a yes, yes,
Speaker 1: I just like it's been a while since I no, no, yes,
Speaker 1: I'm glad you and I want to propose something to
Speaker 1: you off off the mike just because oh my god,
Speaker 1: I had a trip fall through and I think I
Speaker 1: need to go. I need to go very soon, much
Speaker 1: sooner than it might even have to be an impromptu
Speaker 1: trip in the next few weeks. That's what I'm saying. Wow, bitch, okay, listen,
Speaker 1: I have some updates for you. I'm filt these updates.
Speaker 1: I'm unhappy to hear that a trip fell through, Yes,
Speaker 1: well for you for good reasons and for bad. But yes, okay,
Speaker 1: well listen, I'm always down to go. Like, here's the thing, Like,
Speaker 1: I am a theme park. We know that. Yes, yes,
Speaker 1: do you even do six flags? I do? I do
Speaker 1: six flags? I have done six flags. You don't. You
Speaker 1: don't have to appease them, guys, please your culture. She's
Speaker 1: talking about art like Twilight, Classic TV, and we're like
Speaker 1: im and I fully used it as an opening to
Speaker 1: talk about disney World. Got Disneyney I can subscribe to
Speaker 1: Oh my god? Were Rod Serling? I think that maybe
Speaker 1: the hottest man. He was hot. That voice another dimension
Speaker 1: that wasn't good? It wasna Yeah, another dimension. This is good.
Speaker 1: It's it's a clinch. Yeah, you're right. I can't. I
Speaker 1: can't shut up your impressions. When you did Pat Regan
Speaker 1: at the start of this episode, I really and truly
Speaker 1: had to cover. He's a shocking impression when when you
Speaker 1: guys should do a show as Cat and I can
Speaker 1: do Catherine Cohen. I know all her songs. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: we have the same pianist, and you have the same
Speaker 1: pianist I did. I've seen Pat said enough times now
Speaker 1: that I could do it from so you just slipped
Speaker 1: into Pat Reagan that this isn't because this isn't because
Speaker 1: we're good. This is because they're both caricatures of human
Speaker 1: that they just have established identities. Um, but listen, we love,
Speaker 1: we love, and like, also, I had a lot of
Speaker 1: fun with Pat. I don't think so, honey, you were
Speaker 1: deeply missed. I loved the episodes. But you know what
Speaker 1: everyone said. Everyone was like, it's weird to see you
Speaker 1: be the straight man. I was like, yeah, because Pat
Speaker 1: Reagan is the unusual thing wherever. He always straight man
Speaker 1: to Pat. Yes, yes, But here's the thing is, I
Speaker 1: would almost move that we you know, it's my dream,
Speaker 1: it's my goal, with my fucking dream to take everyone
Speaker 1: I love in this community and supplant them in Orlando.
Speaker 1: And then I think you would love I really would
Speaker 1: love that. It would be an actual dream come true
Speaker 1: to go with my celebrity, to go with my number
Speaker 1: one celebrity crests Oh god, truly insane and we have
Speaker 1: we have pals there now. Yeah, and that that worked though.
Speaker 1: That Let listen to the pod and like, oh my god,
Speaker 1: it's been so long since I've talked about it, and
Speaker 1: now they're now they might gag. Oh that that that
Speaker 1: that you're talking about that, I'm talking about the theme
Speaker 1: parks in general, because I feel that there's a contingency
Speaker 1: of people that listen to those podcasts that want to
Speaker 1: hear the breaking tea and we have we have some.
Speaker 1: And oh and for people in Orlando, if who are
Speaker 1: we're we're um distraught that we are not stopping by
Speaker 1: there for the tour. We're working, We're gonna work on
Speaker 1: and we would love to. And same to us for Chicago.
Speaker 1: Same goes for Denversity, because for Atlanta, we're going to
Speaker 1: try to make this happen. Maybe that could be like
Speaker 1: a good reason to go down there as we book
Speaker 1: a show. Yeah, I would go down if you need
Speaker 1: a guest for the Orlando come down. I think we
Speaker 1: do a video. I think we do like we do
Speaker 1: the show is there's a segment that's or the whole
Speaker 1: thing is is just built around Natalie Walker's first experience,
Speaker 1: right and wait, do you want a gag? Really quick?
Speaker 1: Put our tour together. Book the dates. February We're going
Speaker 1: to San Francisco. Guess what night that is? Oscars the
Speaker 1: Academy Awards. So first we were like Oscar night. But
Speaker 1: first we were like, oh shoot. But then of course
Speaker 1: Matt had the brilliant idea of just making it like
Speaker 1: a part, like a viewing party. Were lean into it,
Speaker 1: we'renn lean into it and then like during commercial breaks
Speaker 1: have I don't think so, honey, is that are maybe
Speaker 1: Oscar themes or movie themed or something that's actually perfect? Then?
Speaker 1: So that's how I would want to watch the Oscar.
Speaker 1: There you go and it's a party and we'll have
Speaker 1: you know, they'll be drinks, will be food, it'll be
Speaker 1: it'll be fun. We're going to lean in because we
Speaker 1: have to. We have to because we've already announced the show,
Speaker 1: like literally the day before Bowen Goes, the day before
Speaker 1: we announced that the that it was going on sale
Speaker 1: because we already announced the date. And I was like,
Speaker 1: oh my god, it's the night of the Oscars. What
Speaker 1: should we do? And I was like, I feel like,
Speaker 1: we can't. We can't change it. Yeah, you have to
Speaker 1: just leave it in. It'll be great for culture. LISTA
Speaker 1: is watching Culture and I will say this. I will
Speaker 1: say this, and I think you can agree. If we're
Speaker 1: watching it and Lady Gaga doesn't win, it's going to
Speaker 1: feel bad. We're gonna want her to win. What do
Speaker 1: you mean in the room just us at the three
Speaker 1: of us? No, no, No, I'm saying, like the night
Speaker 1: of the Oscars, the night of the Oscars, if she
Speaker 1: doesn't win, if we're there with all those gays that
Speaker 1: to see the show and Best Actress rolls around, ye
Speaker 1: and she doesn't win the award, I feel like it's
Speaker 1: going to be disappointed. I mean sure, but like that's
Speaker 1: not specific to us. What do you mean? No, I'm
Speaker 1: just saying, like there's a discussion about whether or not
Speaker 1: Lady Gaga actually deserves to win. I don't think people
Speaker 1: are going to be that disappointed if she wins. She
Speaker 1: doesn't win. Honestly, remember that there are people in any
Speaker 1: room don't believe in her. So that's true. I said,
Speaker 1: if she does that during the Oscar speech, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: now yeah, She's like, that's honestly why I'm surprised that
Speaker 1: it continued as long as it did because she feels
Speaker 1: so in control of public perception of her and her
Speaker 1: brand that it was wild to watch her do the
Speaker 1: same like Studio Spiel over and over. Thank god, Jonah
Speaker 1: Hill said something we needed I did. I did rewatch
Speaker 1: the Super cud again this week, and it made me
Speaker 1: laugh and laugh. I was like, this is so funny
Speaker 1: that she changes it. It's unbelievable. It feels like when
Speaker 1: you are going in for like one line on an
Speaker 1: episode of a TV show and you're just standing in
Speaker 1: front of your mirror and you're like, you can go
Speaker 1: in if you want now. You can go in if
Speaker 1: you want now. You can go if you want to,
Speaker 1: you can go in if you want now. I've done
Speaker 1: so many auditions for like mean reception like vaguely mean
Speaker 1: receptionists is sort of my deal right now, just constantly
Speaker 1: going in for those and not getting them, but just
Speaker 1: being like, why am I here? I mean, I just
Speaker 1: I had a call back for a Duncan not dunkin
Speaker 1: Donuts Duncan, which I thought I slayed it, but the
Speaker 1: one it was gird because the first audition was just
Speaker 1: one line, and then I came back and the character
Speaker 1: had been blown out and I had tons of lines.
Speaker 1: All of a sudden, I'm like, they wanted to see
Speaker 1: the improv and all that ship and I really thought
Speaker 1: I booked but didn't book That's no no that I
Speaker 1: would have been there Auston, Massachusetts, but didn't book despite
Speaker 1: playing um, but the but the line was, um, the
Speaker 1: password is Duncan, I know the password is. The password
Speaker 1: is hockey, and I was like password hockey, saying hockey.
Speaker 1: You don't sound natural saying that word. No, I agree,
Speaker 1: and then I'm sorry? What was the context? Are you?
Speaker 1: Are you? Is this like? I was a Duncan Donuts
Speaker 1: employee who was telling someone the WiFi password of the
Speaker 1: of the hockey rink. Okay, let's let's let's do let's
Speaker 1: do some readings between me and Nat. Let's just do
Speaker 1: a lrondo readings. This is this is one of my
Speaker 1: favorite games. Come on, let's go. The password is hockey, great, Okay,
Speaker 1: the passwords hockey. The password is hockey. Wow. Let's do
Speaker 1: two arounds. Okay, okay, the password it's hockey. The password
Speaker 1: is hockey. The pastle bird hocky. Okay, that wouldn't book
Speaker 1: me the gig that would that would not Okay, That's
Speaker 1: what I did? Was that bad in the audition? Yes,
Speaker 1: so listeners you can vote you like the best. None
Speaker 1: of us did. None of us did a Boston accent,
Speaker 1: and I think that was our failing. You should Yeah,
Speaker 1: the past where it is hockey. Oh and he's John F.
Speaker 1: Kennedy JFK. The past word is hockey, Boston labster. I
Speaker 1: can only I only learned like what JFK's voice sounded
Speaker 1: like in air quotes from Clone High, Like like only
Speaker 1: two lines from Clone High where he's like, I era
Speaker 1: wanna party platter. It's incredible. I haven't seen that. Damn
Speaker 1: just hosted US and L. Did he do a Boston accent?
Speaker 1: He did a Boston thank god, thank god? The boxers?
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, Heidi did Angel every boxer's girlfriend. Good. Yes,
Speaker 1: I love that so much. And someone someone wants responded
Speaker 1: to the audition videos and was like, is it Heidi
Speaker 1: Gardner doing this bit on SNL? And I was like,
Speaker 1: I've been doing this for two years. So it's possible that, like,
Speaker 1: more than one woman is annoyed by reductive female characters
Speaker 1: in film, Like it's not a thing that only one
Speaker 1: person has a monopoly on of just being like, hey,
Speaker 1: a lot of female characters and male driven films are
Speaker 1: not great. It's like, come on something. Also, to be honest,
Speaker 1: Amy Adams did it first. I mean we should toss
Speaker 1: Heidie and Natalie out and gorgeous, gorgeous she's so great
Speaker 1: and Aim is so good Advice I can't wait to say.
Speaker 1: And if she were to win the Oscar for this,
Speaker 1: I'd be like bummed because I wanted to win the
Speaker 1: Best Actress Oscar. But she is in a viola, in
Speaker 1: a viola sort of way. It's like, you deserve, you deserve, deserve.
Speaker 1: I want to make sure you get something. Yeah, it's
Speaker 1: unfair for me to say this without having seen it,
Speaker 1: but I feel like Vice makes more sense as the
Speaker 1: best ensemble. Yeah, certainly does like it. It feels like
Speaker 1: such a well Harry Colin Powell. Yeah, he's good, He's
Speaker 1: really good. What was the other prestige thing that he
Speaker 1: did where he wasn't girl gone? He was great? And
Speaker 1: I really like it's weird too because Tyler Perry is
Speaker 1: like absolutely huge, But every time he's in a movie,
Speaker 1: is that part of the ensemble. It really works. It
Speaker 1: works because so much of his brand is like not
Speaker 1: looking like himself and right. And so I went to
Speaker 1: this Vice SAG screening and afterwards they did a talk
Speaker 1: back with Adam McKay, Amy Adams and a bunch of
Speaker 1: the members and I was in the same room. His
Speaker 1: name and um Adam McKay and his scarf. Um. But
Speaker 1: basically what happened was, um, they were talking about Colin Power.
Speaker 1: They were talking about Tyler Perry, and Tyler Perry had
Speaker 1: to call Colin Powell and like get his blessing. And
Speaker 1: like he said, only Tyler Perry could just call Colin Power.
Speaker 1: But apparently, like they talked because this is not like
Speaker 1: a good it doesn't depict a good moment in Colin
Speaker 1: Powell's life. But like Colin Powell was fully cool about it.
Speaker 1: He was like, yeah, I mean that is what happened. Like,
Speaker 1: this is the truth of the situation. Play it as
Speaker 1: truthfully as possible. I went out there against my better
Speaker 1: judgment and said there were weapons of mass destruction out
Speaker 1: of without a doubt, and I knew my instinct told
Speaker 1: me otherwise than I did exactly what they told me
Speaker 1: to do and play that. Wow, has he has Colin
Speaker 1: Power himself? I mean, I don't know if any of
Speaker 1: us know the answer to this. Has he come out
Speaker 1: and like said as much in public He's called and
Speaker 1: this is in the movie. He's called it the worst
Speaker 1: day of his life, the day when he had to
Speaker 1: get up in front of everyone and be like without
Speaker 1: a doubt, like we're doing the right thing. They say
Speaker 1: in the movie, Like it's a really good scene where
Speaker 1: Tyler Perry is saying it and then you kind of
Speaker 1: see on his face he's uneasy about it, and the
Speaker 1: voiceover over it is like Colin Powell would would later
Speaker 1: call this the worst I mean wow, I mean like
Speaker 1: that is like whatever. Like the fact that it happened
Speaker 1: in real life and that it led to this horrible
Speaker 1: war is like terrible, but like that is like meti meti,
Speaker 1: METI medi medi role. There is a lot of criticism
Speaker 1: of Advice, calling it the Michael Moore of movies, which
Speaker 1: is not not true. But the thing is, I thought
Speaker 1: Vice was excellent, and I think Adam McKay is f Yeah,
Speaker 1: he's fantastic, and not only just like his scripts are
Speaker 1: so clear, his his worlds are. It's so cohesive amongst
Speaker 1: all the actors. Even when it gets like merely like
Speaker 1: you were saying, like it still feels right um, and
Speaker 1: he gives his actors really fun stuff to do. I
Speaker 1: can't wait for you guys to see this movie, to
Speaker 1: see this one scene between Amy Adams and Christian Bale,
Speaker 1: which is like there's so many moments in the script
Speaker 1: that just like are like, wow, you don't see movies
Speaker 1: have fun with themselves like this. And there's this one
Speaker 1: scene where it's it's very very cool and it gives
Speaker 1: the actors a really cool opportunity and it's like a
Speaker 1: it's like a it's like a knowing subversion. But it's
Speaker 1: so funny and it's so truthful and real, and I
Speaker 1: mean there's also some really real moments that have to
Speaker 1: do with Mary Cheney, who's played by Alison pill in
Speaker 1: the film, um about how you know her family really
Speaker 1: like ultimately really left her out to dry in a
Speaker 1: crazy way, and like it's it's a it's a good movie,
Speaker 1: and I it's coming out kind of late, but it's
Speaker 1: still getting the awards attention deservedly and I think that
Speaker 1: it's I think it'll actually make a splash at the Oscars.
Speaker 1: Especially screenplay. I'm always so excited to see anything. Ammy
Speaker 1: Adam says she's in this category of actresses where they
Speaker 1: can do any genre, and I am obsessed with that,
Speaker 1: and it's what I love about Emily Blunt. Rose Byrne
Speaker 1: is very much in that place. Charlie's Charlie's kills me
Speaker 1: in everything and always like knows what movie she's in,
Speaker 1: like never seems floundering at all, even at this point.
Speaker 1: Melissa McCarthy, Yes, she's like crossed over to whatever can
Speaker 1: any genre. If you think about the range that it
Speaker 1: would take to do something like Santra, Santra doing killing
Speaker 1: like comic any genre and is able to seamlessly use
Speaker 1: all of her talents to bring it all to life.
Speaker 1: Think about being one actress and doing Monster and Mad
Speaker 1: Next Fury Road and Young Adults and like all these
Speaker 1: things and all even like a fucking snoway on The Huntsman,
Speaker 1: which like is not a good movie, but she is
Speaker 1: incredible because she knows exactly what it is. And I would,
Speaker 1: oh my god, I would rather watch that performance then
Speaker 1: like most male like prestige movie performance. That's what I
Speaker 1: was thinking. I was like, I don't feel this way
Speaker 1: about male actors at all. I don't care about whatever
Speaker 1: they're quote unquote versatility is because they don't I don't know.
Speaker 1: It's like it's just so wooden in that way where
Speaker 1: they're just like they don't want either, they don't have
Speaker 1: the opportunities to do that kind of fun stuff or
Speaker 1: it's like and I feel like, also, male actors weirdly
Speaker 1: get away with so much more hair and makeup and
Speaker 1: prosthetic actors and we don't talk about it, whereas like
Speaker 1: when a woman like puts on a fake nose or
Speaker 1: something to play a historical figure, everyone's like, let's talk
Speaker 1: about the nose for a million years, Like Margot Robbie, Like, yes,
Speaker 1: the hair and make up team like does a great
Speaker 1: job in that movie, but like she's not unrecognizable and
Speaker 1: Mars and all of these pieces are being done about it.
Speaker 1: That's sort of like undermine the acting work that women
Speaker 1: do whenever they use hair and makeup in prosthetics. And
Speaker 1: then meanwhile, like I feel like Gary Oldman, like all
Speaker 1: of these actors that I'm like, they just gave you
Speaker 1: a fucking new face and that and you did and
Speaker 1: you yelled and that was it, and like it doesn't
Speaker 1: get covered as much as when women do, like one
Speaker 1: thing to alter their appearance for something. It makes me
Speaker 1: in st that is interesting. I will shout out one
Speaker 1: actor and I'm gonna start to talk about vice again,
Speaker 1: one actor who I think actually is really fucking good. Well,
Speaker 1: Steve Carrel I think it's great. Welcome to Marwin. He's
Speaker 1: always just performing what is welcome to Marrow. I was
Speaker 1: just welcoming me to marrowin over, I know, but we're
Speaker 1: in a concert together, and she was just like she
Speaker 1: kept going through this door to the bar and love
Speaker 1: its welcome tomorrow. I just want to say the actual
Speaker 1: tie it up. It just what I was going to
Speaker 1: shout out was Christian Bale. He's so fucking and he's
Speaker 1: so talented, and he's does a lot of different versatile things.
Speaker 1: So I will give one actor a shout out, and
Speaker 1: it's Christian Belle and Richard Lucas Hedges. I love that
Speaker 1: sweet boy. Stop it, you're cruel. He's your type? Did
Speaker 1: you say that because you have a crush on And
Speaker 1: I was like, yeah, He's like he's like the Matt
Speaker 1: Rogers type. What do you mean by that? He's like,
Speaker 1: let's unpack a sweet little white boy, exactly right, And
Speaker 1: that's fine. He thinks I don't contain multitudes sexually. I meanwhile,
Speaker 1: he does. He has no idea what I jack off to? Huh,
Speaker 1: no idea, no idea? Why do you jack off to?
Speaker 1: What am I jacking off too? Yeah? He's gonna lie,
Speaker 1: I don't. I've talked about this in the past. Um
Speaker 1: check off to all sorts of things exactly, No, I
Speaker 1: mean same, huh, same, Yes, what do you jack off? Variety?
Speaker 1: I love riding the magazine industry. I love porn t
Speaker 1: I love porn, and I have been really into daddy
Speaker 1: porn lately. But also it feels insane to say what
Speaker 1: you jack off too, because the categories and porn are
Speaker 1: so disgusting and so like it's so like bizarre and
Speaker 1: like the way they categorize things. It's like, oh, this
Speaker 1: is so weird. Anyway, I used to jack off to
Speaker 1: the cruel intentions like sha, yeah, when Sarah Michel is
Speaker 1: lowering or someone right, that's beautiful and that, Yeah, that's
Speaker 1: formative cultural moment for me. It's time. It's time. It's
Speaker 1: time to move on to I don't think somebody have
Speaker 1: a legend among us, a legend of the form. Now
Speaker 1: this is the first time, because this is the first
Speaker 1: time that I have not pre written anything. I want
Speaker 1: to know because I heard you guys be like, it's
Speaker 1: not a good I don't think so, honey. When you
Speaker 1: simply read Glenn close off my phone because I wanted
Speaker 1: to make sure that I as much as I always
Speaker 1: wanted to. Yes, yes, I fully, but yeah, we're the
Speaker 1: first time, we're we're pushing the boundaries of what they
Speaker 1: I don't think so Honey is, and if you do,
Speaker 1: if people who read them, I've I understand people who
Speaker 1: read it off their phones in a way. Right. But then,
Speaker 1: but I think Joel was saying that a true I
Speaker 1: don't think so Honey is as as minimally written as possible.
Speaker 1: The driving force is just your hinges are off. The
Speaker 1: hinges are off, and that's what makes it fun. Um.
Speaker 1: But we you know, but but but Matt and I,
Speaker 1: well we'll see how. No, I'm just a slave to
Speaker 1: the forum. I just want to always honor them that
Speaker 1: you have created you always, You've never you've never fallen short,
Speaker 1: You've never fallen short. I'm gonna this is my time.
Speaker 1: This is my validation that will get me out of that.
Speaker 1: And as you guys are talking about this, I'm like,
Speaker 1: do I want to do my my topic? I do
Speaker 1: want to do my Okay, so you want to go first? Yes,
Speaker 1: is Matt Rodgers, I don't think so Hony. As time
Speaker 1: starts now, I don't think so honey, Sam Rockwell. And
Speaker 1: it's not that I don't like you, it's just that
Speaker 1: I don't think so honey, because honestly, like when you
Speaker 1: won the Oscar last year, I was like, because it
Speaker 1: felt like whatever, I really didn't want to see that movie,
Speaker 1: and then I was forced to and I was like, yeah, fine,
Speaker 1: you're good, but I don't think so honey. Like and
Speaker 1: I am sexually attracted to you, but I still don't
Speaker 1: think so honey. I kind of always feel like you're
Speaker 1: kind of doing sort of the same thing, like it's
Speaker 1: always very Sam Rockwell. And it's not that that's bad.
Speaker 1: I just don't think so And I really don't think
Speaker 1: so honey. You invited getting awards recognition, and the thing is,
Speaker 1: it's not that you are doing anything wrong. It's the
Speaker 1: conversation around you being so bloated. And it's this thing
Speaker 1: we're talking about, which I don't think so honey about,
Speaker 1: which is like allowing people to get praised for doing
Speaker 1: kind of easy things, and it's like you're getting kind
Speaker 1: of like recognition for doing this I'm sorry, but sketch
Speaker 1: comedy performance, and this is not I don't think so
Speaker 1: many sketch comedy. It's Sam rock It's Sam rock Well.
Speaker 1: I don't think so many getting praised for doing the
Speaker 1: sketch comedy performances on the world stage of the Oscars.
Speaker 1: I don't think Sony Sam rock Well, I loved you
Speaker 1: most in Charlie's Angels, and that's one minute. He was
Speaker 1: great in Charlie's Angels. Incredible finale. He was Charlie's Angels
Speaker 1: and so good and like it was the first time
Speaker 1: I kind of got a sense of Sam Rockwell, and
Speaker 1: I was like, oh, he's like sexy, and but isn't
Speaker 1: it funny that he starts out like in the movie
Speaker 1: being like dwee Bey and like who and then when
Speaker 1: when he does the heel turn, it's fun in that
Speaker 1: house and that's sexual. Both of my types are like
Speaker 1: dweeby nerd who worships me, and then like a full
Speaker 1: on villain and he's rocking that tank top, Sam secret
Speaker 1: good body. Oh that's okay. And that just Charlie's Angels.
Speaker 1: The first one is such a good movie because the
Speaker 1: way that that turn is executed, it's all one shot
Speaker 1: and it's like it's like it's Marvin Gay's playing and
Speaker 1: like drews like in her like is like is like
Speaker 1: naked with the sheet over her, and you really don't
Speaker 1: see it. You don't see it coming in the way
Speaker 1: that it McGee, what a genius and the and then
Speaker 1: he moved on to d sc Yes, okay, so this
Speaker 1: has to be don't think, my god, you good. I'm good.
Speaker 1: I'm good. His time starts now. I don't think so, honey.
Speaker 1: My sister demanding and badgering me for screeners, and it's
Speaker 1: truly one of the most stressful things that's been happening
Speaker 1: to me the last couple of months. And she's like,
Speaker 1: what are you getting screens? When are you getting screeners?
Speaker 1: When are you getting screeners? Yeng? I love you. I don't.
Speaker 1: This is my first year getting them. I haven't gotten
Speaker 1: them yet. I think SAD doesn't give you as many
Speaker 1: as writers Gill does, as w g A does, And
Speaker 1: all my w g A friends are getting all their
Speaker 1: screeners ahead of time, and I I don't think that
Speaker 1: you should feel entitled to what's to something that I
Speaker 1: don't even particularly even have the time to like take
Speaker 1: care of. I know she's listening. I love her so much.
Speaker 1: She's she's she's she's been supportive very recently, but also like,
Speaker 1: come on, just like fucking pirate that ship then, or
Speaker 1: just go to the movies. You're in Atlanta have gorgeous
Speaker 1: giant megaplex malls where you just go to like recline
Speaker 1: in seats and watch these films. I you know, it's
Speaker 1: it's don't don't rely on me. I'm not your gate
Speaker 1: way to show biz. You are your own gate way
Speaker 1: to show biz. Everyone is a culture is too. No
Speaker 1: one needs anyone to be shepherded into culture. You are
Speaker 1: your own shepherd. And that's one minute. You know what,
Speaker 1: Yang you have the screeners, join the union union something script? Yeah,
Speaker 1: you want the screen you want to get script. She
Speaker 1: wants to write a script actually with her friend Borhini,
Speaker 1: and they're they're both growing up. They were like the
Speaker 1: best smartest people, and they wrote a lot of they
Speaker 1: wrote a lot of like I mean, like granted they
Speaker 1: were in the tenth grade, but they wrote like, they
Speaker 1: wrote a lot of stuff together and they're two very funny,
Speaker 1: creatively keatan people. And then like you know, the thing
Speaker 1: life happened. And then like but then Gang is having
Speaker 1: this really great sort of moment where she's like I
Speaker 1: think I want to like a creative research try. She's
Speaker 1: having a creative resurgence, and I fully supportive. I love that.
Speaker 1: But you know what, she's gonna get her own screeners.
Speaker 1: You know what. I don't think so many people like
Speaker 1: demanding things that require me to go put something in
Speaker 1: the mail exactly, like guys, because then I have to
Speaker 1: go to the fucking mail. Yeah, exactly. I feel that
Speaker 1: I feel this way, I feel this way, I feel
Speaker 1: that way, I feel this way, I feel that way.
Speaker 1: I feel this way that way, and the way I
Speaker 1: feel right now is that we're going to feel a
Speaker 1: certain kind of what with Natalie Walker. Natalie Walker is
Speaker 1: going to do her I don't think so. This is
Speaker 1: Natalie Walker's I don't think so, honey. Her time starts now.
Speaker 1: I don't think so, honey. James Franco, Why are we
Speaker 1: allowing James Franco to be around and about he has?
Speaker 1: Why are we giving him so many chances? Why is
Speaker 1: this the person that we've decided He gets to fucking
Speaker 1: proposition a seventeen year old at the stage door after
Speaker 1: his Broadway show. He gets to like Busy Phillips comes
Speaker 1: out and he's like he abused me on the set
Speaker 1: of Franks and Geeks. And although we were at n
Speaker 1: y U when he was on the motherfucking Loose, he
Speaker 1: became spend Dolly figure of this girl in my year
Speaker 1: at Adler who was from Canada and like didn't know
Speaker 1: what she was getting into and he was horrible at
Speaker 1: her and did a bullshit play at Adler where he
Speaker 1: like yelled at her on stage. He had people do
Speaker 1: angels in America and he was on a godmike in
Speaker 1: the back and he would just repeat, like the actress
Speaker 1: would go are you a homeown? He would go, are
Speaker 1: you a homeo? An idiot? And he's not talented, And
Speaker 1: I am so insense that he is allowed to just
Speaker 1: continue being James Franco around and about middling level of talent.
Speaker 1: I don't think so funny. Oh my god, at a
Speaker 1: middling level of talent. Thank you so much, and yes,
Speaker 1: we need to talk about this, James. The James Franco
Speaker 1: present at YU between the eight years of like two
Speaker 1: thousand seven and two thousand eleven something like that, he
Speaker 1: was like it was like like he was there for
Speaker 1: a decade because he it was what a raised sporadically
Speaker 1: come to classes and then hit on young girls every
Speaker 1: lecture across every school. This wasn't even in c as
Speaker 1: I would it would just be like me like Conversations
Speaker 1: of the West or whatever bullshit social Studies class I
Speaker 1: had to take for my core. But people would come
Speaker 1: in every single day and be like wow and out
Speaker 1: here's a picture like in Washington Square Park and it's like,
Speaker 1: what is this celebrity worship going on here? It's not work,
Speaker 1: like doesn't oh, And that fucking moment where the person
Speaker 1: who took the photo of him in like sleeping in
Speaker 1: the lecture, nodding off like it just he was asleep
Speaker 1: in every class I heard, yeah, but like it grossed
Speaker 1: me out then and then he was like also fucking
Speaker 1: so many like young women that were like impressionable and
Speaker 1: I just did not dig and he um. And now
Speaker 1: when he was doing a play at Adler, which he
Speaker 1: just like used their space and was like all cell
Speaker 1: tickets or whatever. Uh, my friend was in it. He
Speaker 1: recruited like six add their kids to be in it,
Speaker 1: including the girl that he was with at the time,
Speaker 1: And there was one rehearsal where a woman walked in
Speaker 1: like stumbled in and James was like, oh, I'm I'm sponsoring.
Speaker 1: I'm like, this girl's a sponsor, and it was Lindsay
Speaker 1: Lohan and she like stumbled in and was with her
Speaker 1: friends and was like giggling and just talking through the
Speaker 1: whole rehearsal, and James apparently like yelled at her and
Speaker 1: told her to leave in front of everyone, and she
Speaker 1: cried and left. Um, this is true ego to think
Speaker 1: that you can just allow like, oh my gosh, oh
Speaker 1: my god. There's so much going on in that story.
Speaker 1: It's truly so much. I will never forget my friend Will.
Speaker 1: My best friend Will got back and was like, as
Speaker 1: someone that grew up obsessed with Lindsay Lohan, I was
Speaker 1: so sad for so many reasons that. Honestly, the thing
Speaker 1: with James Franco is I've always just been like allured
Speaker 1: by him, and now as of late, I'm just kind
Speaker 1: of like, oh God, I really don't care. Are just
Speaker 1: so many reasons to not with James Franco that I'm
Speaker 1: absolutely baffled that we continue. There's a ton of other
Speaker 1: people in the world to admire like, and it's just
Speaker 1: like the Busy Phillips thing is weird. The fact that
Speaker 1: he ever thought he could just push her to the ground.
Speaker 1: I get that people are young, they do whatever they do,
Speaker 1: whatever they do, stupid ship, But like he pushed someone
Speaker 1: to the ground and infected her enough to keep talking
Speaker 1: about it. Just it just these men just like can
Speaker 1: keep taking these heads and like it doesn't really even
Speaker 1: the heads keep coming, Yeah, because it's a glorification of
Speaker 1: a time in Hollywood, especially where like male actors when
Speaker 1: they were really quote unquote in it could do whatever
Speaker 1: they wanted and they would just be heralded as a genius.
Speaker 1: Like Dustin Hoffman conspired with his director and Cramer versus
Speaker 1: cremertax a glass at Meryl Street. And it's not okay,
Speaker 1: that's not that's truly not okay. And especially it was
Speaker 1: like very pervasive at NYU, even just like beyond James
Speaker 1: right go, it's just like you see how all of
Speaker 1: that is ingrained. Yeah yeah, yeah, wow. We should move
Speaker 1: on from men. We should move to move on from then.
Speaker 1: We are a post man, postman, postman, We are postman. Hey,
Speaker 1: wait a minute, and we're the postman. Wow? Thank you?
Speaker 1: Can you believe this up? I can't believe this app
Speaker 1: m what a true I came in I came in today.
Speaker 1: You saw me today earlier. I was tired. Oh babe,
Speaker 1: I don't know if I like I was. I was
Speaker 1: just like tired. No, it wasn't, I was tired. I
Speaker 1: was like, I was like, I was like this, I
Speaker 1: was like, this is like such a weird place for
Speaker 1: me to be, like, I don't know, like where I'm at.
Speaker 1: And Natalie just recalibrated my emotional state. She's the perfect
Speaker 1: She's the perfect one, the perfection. Can I tell you
Speaker 1: what a dream come true this has been? And I
Speaker 1: feel that you must come back. You must because because
Speaker 1: this is an yes, and look, we have great guests,
Speaker 1: but not everyone's a culture Not everyone's a culturesta. I
Speaker 1: think Natalie is one of the few. Just a compendium
Speaker 1: of references really but that but that mixed with the
Speaker 1: way that you were able to communicate that to a
Speaker 1: larger audience, mixed with um, mixed with this very this
Speaker 1: very textured background, I think is everything that a culture
Speaker 1: Rista is. It's and she's schooling me on and what
Speaker 1: a culture eista should be. And that is why we love,
Speaker 1: That is why we love Natalie Walker. And I would
Speaker 1: actually give you the opportunity of ending us on the
Speaker 1: song and we will join in. Oh my god, Oh
Speaker 1: my god, this is so stressful. What do I know
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