Speaker 1: But I do feel like the general public they're waking
Speaker 1: up to those parents' dads, moms. They don't want to
Speaker 1: see their daughters lose out on opportunities and be forced
Speaker 1: to undress in front of someone of the opposite sex
Speaker 1: and their locker room. So I do think tides are turning.
Speaker 1: There have been some sports governing bodies who have done
Speaker 1: some good things World Athletics, FENA, So I'm appreciating the
Speaker 1: little steps, but I do believe the battle is nowhere
Speaker 1: near being one.
Speaker 2: That's Charlie Gaines, who had to swim against a dude
Speaker 2: in college, and she has become a big activist on
Speaker 2: this whole transport issue. She was standing behind University of
Speaker 2: Nevado Reno women's volleyball players on Saturday when they had
Speaker 2: to hold a press conference to basically shame or force
Speaker 2: their university into forfeiting because the university said, Nope, we're
Speaker 2: going to play, and the players were like, what, you
Speaker 2: don't get to decide for us. We're not going to
Speaker 2: get to play against the dude who plays on San
Speaker 2: Jose State. And it's become kind of a game for
Speaker 2: me since we started talking about this. I really enjoy
Speaker 2: this game of when you follow a mainstream news story
Speaker 2: about San Jose San Jose State women's volleyball whether they
Speaker 2: ever mentioned what the issue is. News sources have started
Speaker 2: to decide they need to cover it all the forfeits,
Speaker 2: but they never mentioned why in any mainstream news story,
Speaker 2: which is weird, weird, cowardly, dishonest.
Speaker 3: So Riley Gaines is a co signer of a letter
Speaker 3: with Jim Desmond, who is the supervisor fifth District of
Speaker 3: San Diego County's Board of Supervisors, to San Diego State
Speaker 3: University because they are going to be playing San Jose
Speaker 3: State and their women's volleyball team that features a dude.
Speaker 4: Soon, Jim, how are you, sir?
Speaker 5: Thanks for joining us, Hey, thanks for having me this morning.
Speaker 5: Thanks for bringing this up.
Speaker 2: So, of course, why do you hate? Is my first question?
Speaker 2: Clearly you're full of eight?
Speaker 4: Fair question?
Speaker 5: All right, No, no, that's full of eight. Just you know,
Speaker 5: it's unfair competition. I mean this, you know, why even
Speaker 5: discuss this. It's crazy to have you know, men competing
Speaker 5: in women's sports, and it only hurts the women, you know,
Speaker 5: by them not being able to get scholarships or get
Speaker 5: you know, get get the merits. And awards that they
Speaker 5: want or deserve, and these men are getting into these
Speaker 5: sports and taking it over. It's you know, Riley Gain
Speaker 5: signed on the letter, as you mentioned, also Peyton McNabb
Speaker 5: who actually is permanently injured after being spiked in the
Speaker 5: face by by a male volleyball player. So you know,
Speaker 5: this is craziness. And you know, like she had said earlier,
Speaker 5: Riley that hopefully the tide is turning.
Speaker 3: There are hundreds of medals, championships, scholarships that have been
Speaker 3: won by dudes who say I'm a girl now and
Speaker 3: have denied the female athletes those those accolades and those opportunities.
Speaker 4: That is absolutely bizarre and obscene.
Speaker 3: What's the San Diego State's current stance as far as
Speaker 3: you can tell him, Well, we're playing San Jose State
Speaker 3: and their guy.
Speaker 5: Yeah yeah, well so far radio silence out of San
Speaker 5: Diego State, and unfortunately, you know, I have a hunch,
Speaker 5: being another California school, they may go ahead with it.
Speaker 5: But haven't heard anything yet. Yeah, we haven't heard anything
Speaker 5: yet from them, but we're hoping, you know, November ninth
Speaker 5: is you know, after the election, hellelujah, but you know,
Speaker 5: hopefully we'll get some traction, and maybe some of the
Speaker 5: teammates are will say, hey, we just don't want to
Speaker 5: compete against this, and I'm glad five teams has already
Speaker 5: you know, shut down and not agreed to play San
Speaker 5: Jose State.
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, quite a few teams. Quite a few teams
Speaker 2: have forfeited. But some of the teams have said why.
Speaker 2: But a number of the teams, way too many of
Speaker 2: them don't say out loud why they're forfeiting, which I
Speaker 2: find troubling.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think, Jim correct me if I'm wrong. Some
Speaker 3: of them, some of the administrators are actually fearing running
Speaker 3: a foul of their progressive states laws on protecting transgender people.
Speaker 5: Well, absolutely, and that hence California, you know, doing that.
Speaker 5: But I do think, you know, both sides of the
Speaker 5: aisle people think this is crazy and outrageous and shouldn't
Speaker 5: be taking place. And can't you know, even believe why
Speaker 5: we're having to have this conversation. There's you know, anytime
Speaker 5: there's a physical competition, men are just more physically capable
Speaker 5: than women, but you know, each in their own different ways,
Speaker 5: and those sports should be protected.
Speaker 3: It's worth saluting some of the really courageous people in
Speaker 3: this controversy, including the women, the young women who stood
Speaker 3: up and said we're not playing this game. Brooks Slusser,
Speaker 3: who actually plays for San Jose State, has joined the
Speaker 3: lawsuit including eighteen women athletes, including Rigley Gaines. Gains versus
Speaker 3: NC Double A is filed in the Federal Court in
Speaker 3: the Northern District of Georgia and March alleging the NC
Speaker 3: double A rules on transgender women violate their Title nine rights.
Speaker 4: This is heading for the Supreme Court and I can
Speaker 4: not wait.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm glad Joe brought up the laws because I
Speaker 2: thought it was just cowardice on the part of these
Speaker 2: various schools that wouldn't say why they forfeited. But depending
Speaker 2: on where you live, there are laws protecting things you
Speaker 2: say about transgender athletes or discriminating. I mean, if you
Speaker 2: announced out loud, we're quitting because you got a dude
Speaker 2: on your team, you'd be in violation of the law.
Speaker 3: So that's a problem. Right, Elections have consequences. Hey, I
Speaker 3: have one more note on this topic. Jim as a
Speaker 3: former girls coach, I can't shut up about this, and
Speaker 3: I won't shut up about this ever. But there was
Speaker 3: a hit piece in the San Francisco Chronicle bashing miss
Speaker 3: Lusser who he just mentioned Brooks Slusser written by one
Speaker 3: Marissa in Gemmi, who's a sportswriter who doesn't appear to
Speaker 3: have ever played sports, which is not necessary to be
Speaker 3: a sports writer at all. You might just be a
Speaker 3: big fan and knowledgeable. But she is unquestionably a lgbt
Speaker 3: Q plus minus over the power of three activists and
Speaker 3: and is bashing a young woman who has the courage
Speaker 3: to say it's women's sports. I'm not playing against a dude.
Speaker 3: Shame on you, Marissa, Shame on you, San Francisco Chronicle. Anyway,
Speaker 3: Jim Desmond of the San Diego County Bord of Supervisors
Speaker 3: is on the line. Jim, We're talked you a lot
Speaker 3: about Yes.
Speaker 2: We did get this text they could call the game
Speaker 2: between San Diego and San Jose the Battle of the Bulge.
Speaker 2: I don't feel like that's a helpful test. Well look
Speaker 2: at that, he laughs.
Speaker 4: You're incouraging.
Speaker 3: You're that's a that's a really funny joke. Uh So, anyway,
Speaker 3: we've we've talked to you, Jim about a lot of
Speaker 3: immigration related topics because and it gets less publicity for
Speaker 3: some reason than Texas, probably because Gavin Newsom is a
Speaker 3: deep blue governor and pretends illegal immigration isn't a troublesome thing.
Speaker 3: But San Diego is an epicenter of illegal immigration. What's
Speaker 3: going on on that front in your world?
Speaker 5: Well, we are back up above capacity for the number
Speaker 5: of people coming across the San Diego section of the border,
Speaker 5: and so we are beyond capacity. And we were actually
Speaker 5: told in San Diego County about a week ago that
Speaker 5: they were going to start the street drop offs again.
Speaker 5: They stopped the street drop offs in June of this year.
Speaker 5: Went from September of last year's so June of this year,
Speaker 5: it was about one hundred and fifty five thousand people
Speaker 5: they dropped in our streets in June. Because of Biden's
Speaker 5: executive order, they cut back on that. But now we're
Speaker 5: back up beyond capacity. And so what's happening now Instead
Speaker 5: of doing the street dropoffs, they are shipping migrants to Yuma, Arizona,
Speaker 5: about three bus loads a day and about one flight
Speaker 5: a day to various points in Texas to Lazo.
Speaker 3: They just drop them off and essentially say to these
Speaker 3: cities and towns you deal with them.
Speaker 2: Well, it's not good on anyway. I've spent a fair
Speaker 2: amount of time in Uma traveling. I get off the bus,
Speaker 2: have thanks. What am I supposed to do here?
Speaker 5: I would imagine there's a lot of non you know,
Speaker 5: non government organizations and people that help them get on
Speaker 5: their way or travel to wherever it is they're going.
Speaker 5: But the optics, which is I really think the reason
Speaker 5: they didn't start to drip of street drop offs again
Speaker 5: is the optics two weeks before an election, you know,
Speaker 5: would have been terrible. And so what they're doing instead
Speaker 5: of you know, dropping them on the streets, which quite
Speaker 5: frankly we don't really want, but they're shipping them out quietly.
Speaker 5: And so we were able to find this out from
Speaker 5: our local Border patrol agents and telling us and actually,
Speaker 5: you know, we got pictures of the boarding airplanes. They
Speaker 5: don't go through the terminal at San Diego Airport. They're
Speaker 5: on the cargo side and so they don't have to
Speaker 5: not seen as much as they board the airplanes and
Speaker 5: get shipped out.
Speaker 4: Wow, it's unbelievable.
Speaker 3: Jim Desmond of the fifth District of San Diego County, Jim,
Speaker 3: we appreciate the time keep us up to date as
Speaker 3: news breaks and developments occur.
Speaker 4: We'd love to hear from you.
Speaker 5: Hey, thanks a lot, Jack and Joe appreciate it.
Speaker 4: Oh, it's our pleasure as always. Thanks.
Speaker 2: If Trump wins, it's going to be in large part
Speaker 2: because of the immigration issue, which a number of people
Speaker 2: saw coming years ago, but they weren't able to get there.
Speaker 2: The Democrats were not able to get their arms around it.
Speaker 2: Probably on purpose.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and there's ambivalents on the Republican side in the
Speaker 3: halls of power, as we've discussed many times. Don't let
Speaker 3: the rhetoric fool you that the Republicans are way better
Speaker 3: on immigration than Democrats. But for reasons we've discussed again
Speaker 3: behind the scenes, the protected class, the moneyed class, they
Speaker 3: want the immigrants. They just need to keep it cool
Speaker 3: enough that the rest of us don't go crazy. Back
Speaker 3: to the battle of a bulge.
Speaker 2: So you think where the rubber is going to meet
Speaker 2: the road is there's going to be somebody file a
Speaker 2: Title nine thing about women in sports on behalf of
Speaker 2: no dudes in Sports, and then it will butt up
Speaker 2: against one of these pro trans laws where you can't
Speaker 2: deny a trans athlete their human rights or something like that,
Speaker 2: and that the two have to be enclashed and then
Speaker 2: climb up.
Speaker 4: You think that's.
Speaker 3: No, No, it won't be necessary because the eighteen athletes
Speaker 3: have already filed that federal lawsuit are so clearly going
Speaker 3: to win that federal law superseding state law and title
Speaker 3: line superseding anything the Gavin Newsom's of the world can
Speaker 3: cook up. Then there will be no more dudes in
Speaker 3: women's sports. How quickly do you think that will have,
Speaker 3: at least at the collegiate level.
Speaker 4: I don't.
Speaker 3: I think the Soups have agreed to look at a case.
Speaker 3: I can't remember which one this term or maybe next term.
Speaker 4: You know what.
Speaker 3: I'll look that up and get back to you. But
Speaker 3: it'll be it'll be within the next year, I think.
Speaker 6: And Clarence Thomas is going to say, does this a
Speaker 6: female volleyball player have a penis? Yes, your honor. That
Speaker 6: seems like a clearcutcase to be done.
Speaker 4: That could happen.
Speaker 3: How do you like this instead of the Battle of
Speaker 3: the bulge, The headline is too many balls on the court.
Speaker 6: Three balls is too many for volleyball.
Speaker 4: Exactly. There you go. That's the subhead.
Speaker 5: Armstrong and Getty