WEBVTT - Outrageous & Crazy.  A&G Talks to Jim Desmond

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<v Speaker 1>But I do feel like the general public they're waking

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<v Speaker 1>up to those parents' dads, moms. They don't want to

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<v Speaker 1>see their daughters lose out on opportunities and be forced

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<v Speaker 1>to undress in front of someone of the opposite sex

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<v Speaker 1>and their locker room. So I do think tides are turning.

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<v Speaker 1>There have been some sports governing bodies who have done

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<v Speaker 1>some good things World Athletics, FENA, So I'm appreciating the

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<v Speaker 1>little steps, but I do believe the battle is nowhere

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<v Speaker 1>near being one.

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<v Speaker 2>That's Charlie Gaines, who had to swim against a dude

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<v Speaker 2>in college, and she has become a big activist on

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<v Speaker 2>this whole transport issue. She was standing behind University of

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<v Speaker 2>Nevado Reno women's volleyball players on Saturday when they had

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<v Speaker 2>to hold a press conference to basically shame or force

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<v Speaker 2>their university into forfeiting because the university said, Nope, we're

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<v Speaker 2>going to play, and the players were like, what, you

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<v Speaker 2>don't get to decide for us. We're not going to

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<v Speaker 2>get to play against the dude who plays on San

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<v Speaker 2>Jose State. And it's become kind of a game for

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<v Speaker 2>me since we started talking about this. I really enjoy

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<v Speaker 2>this game of when you follow a mainstream news story

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<v Speaker 2>about San Jose San Jose State women's volleyball whether they

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<v Speaker 2>ever mentioned what the issue is. News sources have started

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<v Speaker 2>to decide they need to cover it all the forfeits,

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<v Speaker 2>but they never mentioned why in any mainstream news story,

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<v Speaker 2>which is weird, weird, cowardly, dishonest.

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<v Speaker 3>So Riley Gaines is a co signer of a letter

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<v Speaker 3>with Jim Desmond, who is the supervisor fifth District of

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<v Speaker 3>San Diego County's Board of Supervisors, to San Diego State

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<v Speaker 3>University because they are going to be playing San Jose

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<v Speaker 3>State and their women's volleyball team that features a dude.

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<v Speaker 4>Soon, Jim, how are you, sir?

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<v Speaker 5>Thanks for joining us, Hey, thanks for having me this morning.

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<v Speaker 5>Thanks for bringing this up.

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<v Speaker 2>So, of course, why do you hate? Is my first question?

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<v Speaker 2>Clearly you're full of eight?

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<v Speaker 4>Fair question?

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<v Speaker 5>All right, No, no, that's full of eight. Just you know,

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<v Speaker 5>it's unfair competition. I mean this, you know, why even

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<v Speaker 5>discuss this. It's crazy to have you know, men competing

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<v Speaker 5>in women's sports, and it only hurts the women, you know,

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<v Speaker 5>by them not being able to get scholarships or get

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<v Speaker 5>you know, get get the merits. And awards that they

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<v Speaker 5>want or deserve, and these men are getting into these

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<v Speaker 5>sports and taking it over. It's you know, Riley Gain

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<v Speaker 5>signed on the letter, as you mentioned, also Peyton McNabb

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<v Speaker 5>who actually is permanently injured after being spiked in the

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<v Speaker 5>face by by a male volleyball player. So you know,

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<v Speaker 5>this is craziness. And you know, like she had said earlier,

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<v Speaker 5>Riley that hopefully the tide is turning.

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<v Speaker 3>There are hundreds of medals, championships, scholarships that have been

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<v Speaker 3>won by dudes who say I'm a girl now and

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<v Speaker 3>have denied the female athletes those those accolades and those opportunities.

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<v Speaker 4>That is absolutely bizarre and obscene.

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<v Speaker 3>What's the San Diego State's current stance as far as

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<v Speaker 3>you can tell him, Well, we're playing San Jose State

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<v Speaker 3>and their guy.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah yeah, well so far radio silence out of San

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<v Speaker 5>Diego State, and unfortunately, you know, I have a hunch,

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<v Speaker 5>being another California school, they may go ahead with it.

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<v Speaker 5>But haven't heard anything yet. Yeah, we haven't heard anything

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<v Speaker 5>yet from them, but we're hoping, you know, November ninth

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<v Speaker 5>is you know, after the election, hellelujah, but you know,

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<v Speaker 5>hopefully we'll get some traction, and maybe some of the

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<v Speaker 5>teammates are will say, hey, we just don't want to

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<v Speaker 5>compete against this, and I'm glad five teams has already

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<v Speaker 5>you know, shut down and not agreed to play San

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<v Speaker 5>Jose State.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, yeah, quite a few teams. Quite a few teams

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<v Speaker 2>have forfeited. But some of the teams have said why.

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<v Speaker 2>But a number of the teams, way too many of

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<v Speaker 2>them don't say out loud why they're forfeiting, which I

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<v Speaker 2>find troubling.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I think, Jim correct me if I'm wrong. Some

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<v Speaker 3>of them, some of the administrators are actually fearing running

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<v Speaker 3>a foul of their progressive states laws on protecting transgender people.

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<v Speaker 5>Well, absolutely, and that hence California, you know, doing that.

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<v Speaker 5>But I do think, you know, both sides of the

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<v Speaker 5>aisle people think this is crazy and outrageous and shouldn't

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<v Speaker 5>be taking place. And can't you know, even believe why

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<v Speaker 5>we're having to have this conversation. There's you know, anytime

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<v Speaker 5>there's a physical competition, men are just more physically capable

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<v Speaker 5>than women, but you know, each in their own different ways,

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<v Speaker 5>and those sports should be protected.

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<v Speaker 3>It's worth saluting some of the really courageous people in

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<v Speaker 3>this controversy, including the women, the young women who stood

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<v Speaker 3>up and said we're not playing this game. Brooks Slusser,

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<v Speaker 3>who actually plays for San Jose State, has joined the

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<v Speaker 3>lawsuit including eighteen women athletes, including Rigley Gaines. Gains versus

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<v Speaker 3>NC Double A is filed in the Federal Court in

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<v Speaker 3>the Northern District of Georgia and March alleging the NC

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<v Speaker 3>double A rules on transgender women violate their Title nine rights.

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<v Speaker 4>This is heading for the Supreme Court and I can

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<v Speaker 4>not wait.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I'm glad Joe brought up the laws because I

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<v Speaker 2>thought it was just cowardice on the part of these

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<v Speaker 2>various schools that wouldn't say why they forfeited. But depending

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<v Speaker 2>on where you live, there are laws protecting things you

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<v Speaker 2>say about transgender athletes or discriminating. I mean, if you

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<v Speaker 2>announced out loud, we're quitting because you got a dude

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<v Speaker 2>on your team, you'd be in violation of the law.

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<v Speaker 3>So that's a problem. Right, Elections have consequences. Hey, I

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<v Speaker 3>have one more note on this topic. Jim as a

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<v Speaker 3>former girls coach, I can't shut up about this, and

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<v Speaker 3>I won't shut up about this ever. But there was

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<v Speaker 3>a hit piece in the San Francisco Chronicle bashing miss

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<v Speaker 3>Lusser who he just mentioned Brooks Slusser written by one

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<v Speaker 3>Marissa in Gemmi, who's a sportswriter who doesn't appear to

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<v Speaker 3>have ever played sports, which is not necessary to be

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<v Speaker 3>a sports writer at all. You might just be a

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<v Speaker 3>big fan and knowledgeable. But she is unquestionably a lgbt

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<v Speaker 3>Q plus minus over the power of three activists and

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<v Speaker 3>and is bashing a young woman who has the courage

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<v Speaker 3>to say it's women's sports. I'm not playing against a dude.

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<v Speaker 3>Shame on you, Marissa, Shame on you, San Francisco Chronicle. Anyway,

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<v Speaker 3>Jim Desmond of the San Diego County Bord of Supervisors

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<v Speaker 3>is on the line. Jim, We're talked you a lot

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<v Speaker 3>about Yes.

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<v Speaker 2>We did get this text they could call the game

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<v Speaker 2>between San Diego and San Jose the Battle of the Bulge.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't feel like that's a helpful test. Well look

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<v Speaker 2>at that, he laughs.

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<v Speaker 4>You're incouraging.

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<v Speaker 3>You're that's a that's a really funny joke. Uh So, anyway,

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<v Speaker 3>we've we've talked to you, Jim about a lot of

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<v Speaker 3>immigration related topics because and it gets less publicity for

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<v Speaker 3>some reason than Texas, probably because Gavin Newsom is a

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<v Speaker 3>deep blue governor and pretends illegal immigration isn't a troublesome thing.

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<v Speaker 3>But San Diego is an epicenter of illegal immigration. What's

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<v Speaker 3>going on on that front in your world?

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<v Speaker 5>Well, we are back up above capacity for the number

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<v Speaker 5>of people coming across the San Diego section of the border,

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<v Speaker 5>and so we are beyond capacity. And we were actually

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<v Speaker 5>told in San Diego County about a week ago that

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<v Speaker 5>they were going to start the street drop offs again.

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<v Speaker 5>They stopped the street drop offs in June of this year.

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<v Speaker 5>Went from September of last year's so June of this year,

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<v Speaker 5>it was about one hundred and fifty five thousand people

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<v Speaker 5>they dropped in our streets in June. Because of Biden's

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<v Speaker 5>executive order, they cut back on that. But now we're

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<v Speaker 5>back up beyond capacity. And so what's happening now Instead

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<v Speaker 5>of doing the street dropoffs, they are shipping migrants to Yuma, Arizona,

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<v Speaker 5>about three bus loads a day and about one flight

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<v Speaker 5>a day to various points in Texas to Lazo.

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<v Speaker 3>They just drop them off and essentially say to these

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<v Speaker 3>cities and towns you deal with them.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, it's not good on anyway. I've spent a fair

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<v Speaker 2>amount of time in Uma traveling. I get off the bus,

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<v Speaker 2>have thanks. What am I supposed to do here?

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<v Speaker 5>I would imagine there's a lot of non you know,

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<v Speaker 5>non government organizations and people that help them get on

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<v Speaker 5>their way or travel to wherever it is they're going.

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<v Speaker 5>But the optics, which is I really think the reason

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<v Speaker 5>they didn't start to drip of street drop offs again

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<v Speaker 5>is the optics two weeks before an election, you know,

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<v Speaker 5>would have been terrible. And so what they're doing instead

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<v Speaker 5>of you know, dropping them on the streets, which quite

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<v Speaker 5>frankly we don't really want, but they're shipping them out quietly.

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<v Speaker 5>And so we were able to find this out from

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<v Speaker 5>our local Border patrol agents and telling us and actually,

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<v Speaker 5>you know, we got pictures of the boarding airplanes. They

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<v Speaker 5>don't go through the terminal at San Diego Airport. They're

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<v Speaker 5>on the cargo side and so they don't have to

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<v Speaker 5>not seen as much as they board the airplanes and

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<v Speaker 5>get shipped out.

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<v Speaker 4>Wow, it's unbelievable.

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<v Speaker 3>Jim Desmond of the fifth District of San Diego County, Jim,

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<v Speaker 3>we appreciate the time keep us up to date as

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<v Speaker 3>news breaks and developments occur.

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<v Speaker 4>We'd love to hear from you.

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<v Speaker 5>Hey, thanks a lot, Jack and Joe appreciate it.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh, it's our pleasure as always. Thanks.

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<v Speaker 2>If Trump wins, it's going to be in large part

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<v Speaker 2>because of the immigration issue, which a number of people

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<v Speaker 2>saw coming years ago, but they weren't able to get there.

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<v Speaker 2>The Democrats were not able to get their arms around it.

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<v Speaker 2>Probably on purpose.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and there's ambivalents on the Republican side in the

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<v Speaker 3>halls of power, as we've discussed many times. Don't let

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<v Speaker 3>the rhetoric fool you that the Republicans are way better

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<v Speaker 3>on immigration than Democrats. But for reasons we've discussed again

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<v Speaker 3>behind the scenes, the protected class, the moneyed class, they

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<v Speaker 3>want the immigrants. They just need to keep it cool

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<v Speaker 3>enough that the rest of us don't go crazy. Back

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<v Speaker 3>to the battle of a bulge.

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<v Speaker 2>So you think where the rubber is going to meet

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<v Speaker 2>the road is there's going to be somebody file a

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<v Speaker 2>Title nine thing about women in sports on behalf of

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<v Speaker 2>no dudes in Sports, and then it will butt up

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<v Speaker 2>against one of these pro trans laws where you can't

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<v Speaker 2>deny a trans athlete their human rights or something like that,

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<v Speaker 2>and that the two have to be enclashed and then

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<v Speaker 2>climb up.

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<v Speaker 4>You think that's.

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<v Speaker 3>No, No, it won't be necessary because the eighteen athletes

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<v Speaker 3>have already filed that federal lawsuit are so clearly going

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<v Speaker 3>to win that federal law superseding state law and title

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<v Speaker 3>line superseding anything the Gavin Newsom's of the world can

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<v Speaker 3>cook up. Then there will be no more dudes in

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<v Speaker 3>women's sports. How quickly do you think that will have,

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<v Speaker 3>at least at the collegiate level.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't.

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<v Speaker 3>I think the Soups have agreed to look at a case.

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<v Speaker 3>I can't remember which one this term or maybe next term.

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<v Speaker 4>You know what.

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<v Speaker 3>I'll look that up and get back to you. But

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<v Speaker 3>it'll be it'll be within the next year, I think.

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<v Speaker 6>And Clarence Thomas is going to say, does this a

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<v Speaker 6>female volleyball player have a penis? Yes, your honor. That

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<v Speaker 6>seems like a clearcutcase to be done.

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<v Speaker 4>That could happen.

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<v Speaker 3>How do you like this instead of the Battle of

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<v Speaker 3>the bulge, The headline is too many balls on the court.

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<v Speaker 6>Three balls is too many for volleyball.

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<v Speaker 4>Exactly. There you go. That's the subhead.

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<v Speaker 5>Armstrong and Getty