WEBVTT - Hour 3 - Johnny Bench (02-14-20) 0:00:00.560 --> 0:00:03.160 Thank you for listening to this podcast one production now 0:00:03.200 --> 0:00:06.320 all available on Spotify, Apple, podcast podcast one dot com, 0:00:06.360 --> 0:00:09.920 and anywhere else you get your podcasts. Calling All Greek. 0:00:10.200 --> 0:00:13.600 I'm Kevin MC and I'm Jennashquitt. We became best friends 0:00:13.600 --> 0:00:15.200 on the set of Glee and now we're doing the 0:00:15.240 --> 0:00:19.120 Glee recap podcast you have been waiting for. Romana. Each 0:00:19.160 --> 0:00:21.759 week will take you behind the scenes still all the 0:00:21.840 --> 0:00:25.560 Glee tea and breakdown episodes from season one with former cast, crew, 0:00:25.680 --> 0:00:28.120 producers and writers that brought the show to life. 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We'll join us coming up here in a 0:01:08.520 --> 0:01:10.160 little bit, so we'll try to cram all that in. 0:01:10.200 --> 0:01:12.880 It's a trigger meat Friday. I don't know what they're 0:01:13.040 --> 0:01:15.199 cooking out there on the trigger grills, but it looks 0:01:15.240 --> 0:01:18.400 and smells really good. And we'll try to get some 0:01:18.480 --> 0:01:21.319 tragger meat Friday songs as well in the final hour. Yes, Monk, 0:01:21.400 --> 0:01:24.120 my sources tell me it's a bacon wrapped filet mignon. 0:01:24.319 --> 0:01:26.200 We're kicking it up and that I like it. I 0:01:26.280 --> 0:01:29.600 like it. Just got this tweet from Sam. I had 0:01:29.640 --> 0:01:32.639 one eight hundred flowers. Deliver flowers today to my wife. 0:01:33.000 --> 0:01:35.800 Her bosses, regional directors happen to be in the office 0:01:35.800 --> 0:01:39.040 today when the flowers arrived. Huge wind for me today. 0:01:39.120 --> 0:01:43.160 Major props from the wife's co workers, which is always nice. Yes, 0:01:43.200 --> 0:01:48.040 it is, you know nice. Just gestures, small gestures, that's 0:01:48.080 --> 0:01:51.000 what they like. Just go out of your way. How 0:01:51.000 --> 0:01:55.240 about a personalized card. You're a homemade card. Get the flowers. 0:01:55.640 --> 0:01:56.800 You don't have to go to Dinny. You have to 0:01:56.880 --> 0:01:58.880 do all the things that they tell you to do. 0:01:59.320 --> 0:02:02.680 It's just you thought. Women like it when you give 0:02:02.840 --> 0:02:07.280 thought instead of uh, let me just do something we're 0:02:07.480 --> 0:02:16.000 going to dinner. I got you some chocolates. Thought sometimes presence, 0:02:16.040 --> 0:02:19.080 but thought is really really well done, because my thought 0:02:19.240 --> 0:02:22.320 was this morning, I'm not gonna wake you up. I'm 0:02:22.320 --> 0:02:25.040 gonna let you sleep in. I'll take care of the pets, 0:02:25.480 --> 0:02:29.680 and I'm off to work. I love you. Happy Valentine's Day. 0:02:30.919 --> 0:02:33.680 It's gutsy. I didn't I get to hear back from 0:02:33.720 --> 0:02:39.639 my wife. That's a four hours ago. Yeah, we'll be 0:02:39.680 --> 0:02:42.680 all right. I been married thirty three years. I think 0:02:42.680 --> 0:02:47.400 we're good. You better get me something nice too. Yeah, 0:02:47.400 --> 0:02:50.520 why is it always one one way here? Yes, I 0:02:50.560 --> 0:02:53.040 had a bag of gummy bears waiting for me when 0:02:53.040 --> 0:02:55.919 I woke up. About a spot on as it could get. 0:02:55.960 --> 0:03:00.520 That's okay, Yeah, I'm okay with that. You know, maybe 0:03:00.520 --> 0:03:03.560 a bottle of tequila would be nice for me, that's 0:03:03.600 --> 0:03:07.600 the PM. Yeah, don't want to start my day with Zaki, 0:03:07.800 --> 0:03:10.960 not anymore. I don't want to do that. This program 0:03:10.960 --> 0:03:13.160 brought to you by Mercedes AMG be prepared for whatever 0:03:13.200 --> 0:03:15.160 comes your way the only new GT four door coupe 0:03:15.320 --> 0:03:17.400 because life is the race of Hisier local dealership for 0:03:17.440 --> 0:03:20.480 a test drive today. If you miss any interviews from 0:03:20.480 --> 0:03:22.720 the Mercedes AMG Man Cave. Just go to the DP 0:03:22.840 --> 0:03:26.000 show app, watch and listen from inside the Mercedes AMG 0:03:26.120 --> 0:03:30.680 Man Cave Mercedes AMT driving performance Right. A couple of headlines. 0:03:31.200 --> 0:03:34.280 The rest of baseball is now reacting to the Astros 0:03:34.360 --> 0:03:38.680 press conference. Feels like it's open season on the Astros. 0:03:39.080 --> 0:03:42.400 Kurt Suzuki, who was with the Nationals, and he said 0:03:42.480 --> 0:03:44.760 he came out today in an interview with the Washington 0:03:44.840 --> 0:03:48.320 Post saying that the Astros were doing this sign stealing 0:03:48.360 --> 0:03:51.560 in the twenty nineteen World Series. I know that they've 0:03:51.720 --> 0:03:54.840 talked about that this was limited to twenty seventeen, which 0:03:54.880 --> 0:03:58.040 I don't believe. But it feels like more and more 0:03:58.040 --> 0:04:00.840 players are now coming out. Here's just and Verlander of 0:04:00.880 --> 0:04:04.160 the Astros saying he should have done more. Yeah, I 0:04:04.160 --> 0:04:07.960 mean it's been difficult shown up and in twenty seventeen, 0:04:08.000 --> 0:04:10.960 and you know, once I spend some time there, understood 0:04:11.000 --> 0:04:13.360 what was what was happening, I wish I had said more. 0:04:13.560 --> 0:04:15.760 You know, looking back, I can't go I can't go back. 0:04:15.920 --> 0:04:18.360 I can't reverse my decision. You know, Like I said, 0:04:18.360 --> 0:04:19.760 I wish I had said more and I didn't, And 0:04:19.839 --> 0:04:23.839 for that, I'm sorry, yep, need more than that, yes, dude. Yeah. 0:04:23.880 --> 0:04:25.360 The interesting part of the thing I wish I had 0:04:25.360 --> 0:04:30.000 said more implied that he had said something to the team. Well, 0:04:30.120 --> 0:04:32.279 justin Verlander is implying is that he was just like, hey, guys, 0:04:32.320 --> 0:04:34.520 I don't know he said something to them about cheating, 0:04:34.520 --> 0:04:36.280 but he wished that he had said more than that. 0:04:37.640 --> 0:04:40.240 You're right about that. But I think I wonder if 0:04:40.240 --> 0:04:43.120 he said anything, well right, But if I don't say anything, 0:04:43.160 --> 0:04:46.000 I wish I would have said more than nothing. Well right, 0:04:46.040 --> 0:04:48.000 So he like, if he didn't say anything, then he 0:04:48.000 --> 0:04:50.279 would have said I wish I had said something. Yeah, 0:04:50.400 --> 0:04:51.960 you know, but instead he said I wish I had 0:04:51.960 --> 0:04:54.360 said more. So what what did he say to them? Then? 0:04:55.200 --> 0:04:56.960 I don't know who was doing the interview, but I 0:04:56.960 --> 0:04:59.520 would want to know what Brian McCann had to say 0:04:59.720 --> 0:05:02.760 or A. J. Hinch had to say, Like somebody wanted 0:05:02.760 --> 0:05:06.720 to say something, And for some reason, it feels like 0:05:06.800 --> 0:05:10.719 mccannon Verlander would be leaders in that clubhouse if you 0:05:10.839 --> 0:05:14.599 said something with those two guys, because they're always talking 0:05:14.600 --> 0:05:17.320 about the integrity of this sport. Don't you think these 0:05:17.320 --> 0:05:21.080 players would listen? Yeah? But you could see how someone 0:05:21.160 --> 0:05:23.240 whoever the ring leader was of this or person who 0:05:23.320 --> 0:05:25.560 was really pushing it through with said hey, everyone's doing this, 0:05:25.600 --> 0:05:28.040 We're just gonna do it better. Stealing times is not illegal. 0:05:28.080 --> 0:05:29.560 You could do it a second base. We're just doing 0:05:29.600 --> 0:05:31.560 it better than everyone else's doing everyone else is doing it. 0:05:31.560 --> 0:05:33.200 I heard they're doing it at this place, this place. 0:05:33.320 --> 0:05:35.200 Oh really, they're doing it other places. Well, we better 0:05:35.200 --> 0:05:40.240 catch up. Here's five clips of whistles from the Dodgers 0:05:40.320 --> 0:05:46.400 Astros series, the World series. These all edited together two days. 0:05:47.480 --> 0:05:50.840 Let's play on one after another because they I mean, 0:05:50.880 --> 0:05:54.000 you can find this now where there's these whistles, and 0:05:55.040 --> 0:05:57.440 you know there'd be one whistle, or there would be 0:05:57.640 --> 0:06:01.680 two whistles, or a whistle that sounded like the charge 0:06:01.960 --> 0:06:04.560 that thing, and every time you would hear a whistle, 0:06:05.080 --> 0:06:08.080 the next sound you would hear is an unbelievable crack 0:06:08.120 --> 0:06:11.200 of the bat of an astro's hitter. Here's uh, some 0:06:11.279 --> 0:06:20.600 of those whistles from the World series in twenty seventeen 0:06:19.640 --> 0:06:36.279 to play okay out two bays open way when they play, 0:06:36.360 --> 0:06:39.720 and you can hear that whistle and after every one 0:06:39.760 --> 0:06:43.279 of those whistles, somebody is right on a on a ball. 0:06:43.920 --> 0:06:46.760 No matter what the pitch is, they're they're sitting on 0:06:46.800 --> 0:06:50.240 a pitch. There's bringing the uh the great catcher, the 0:06:50.839 --> 0:06:54.760 Hall of Famer Johnny Bench, Cincinnati, Rich Johnny, how are 0:06:54.760 --> 0:06:59.120 you today? I'm fantastic. I want I want an answer 0:06:59.160 --> 0:07:02.240 on what are you guys get for Valentine's I didn't 0:07:02.279 --> 0:07:06.920 get anything. I didn't get anything, but I didn't need 0:07:06.960 --> 0:07:10.480 anything cool Or is it just it's this woman's Valentine, 0:07:10.560 --> 0:07:15.520 women's Valentine's Day. I think it's more the woman's day, 0:07:15.640 --> 0:07:18.600 Like I don't expect anything. You know. My gift is 0:07:18.680 --> 0:07:21.720 just giving back to everybody today. I mean, that's showing 0:07:21.760 --> 0:07:27.920 my love for everybody. No, I mean for goodness sake. 0:07:27.960 --> 0:07:30.640 I mean if I got a gift card for Home 0:07:30.680 --> 0:07:33.240 Depot or for Dick Sporting Goods or somebody, that would 0:07:33.240 --> 0:07:34.720 have been great. I would have been I would have 0:07:34.720 --> 0:07:36.200 been fine. I could have done that. I mean, it 0:07:36.360 --> 0:07:42.600 was just something remembrance of what I've done in the past. Uh, 0:07:42.720 --> 0:07:44.760 you poor guy, you need to take a stance in 0:07:44.800 --> 0:07:48.240 your own house. I can't help you out. Come on. 0:07:48.520 --> 0:07:51.240 My boys gave me Valentine, Well, I haven't yet, but 0:07:51.320 --> 0:07:54.800 I'm sure they're going to They're they're going to poor guy. 0:07:54.840 --> 0:07:57.680 All right, what do you make are you? My man? 0:07:57.880 --> 0:08:01.160 I'm doing okay, doing a lot better here. Uh you know, 0:08:01.200 --> 0:08:05.280 about six six months removed from treatments and uh, you know, 0:08:05.360 --> 0:08:08.760 seeing these smiley faces every single day, the dan ends. 0:08:08.760 --> 0:08:11.960 I mean, how could I ever be in wait? I 0:08:12.040 --> 0:08:16.120 was being serious Johnny right there in itself, the Balancine 0:08:16.160 --> 0:08:19.440 to itself, what did you think of yesterday with the astrosk. 0:08:21.400 --> 0:08:24.360 I felt bad for Jim Crane, I guess because I 0:08:24.440 --> 0:08:28.000 know him and he's a nice guy, and I you know, 0:08:28.400 --> 0:08:32.520 I doubt that he knew anything about it. I really do. 0:08:32.600 --> 0:08:35.480 I think, you know, with Lunall and aj and they 0:08:35.600 --> 0:08:38.000 just you know, they cost him five million dollars and 0:08:38.520 --> 0:08:41.920 two draft choices and stuff, and he's a quality individual, 0:08:41.920 --> 0:08:44.360 and I just you know, he'll never recoup that from 0:08:44.400 --> 0:08:47.680 those guys. But I feel like that. And the guys 0:08:47.679 --> 0:08:50.280 are you know, they were gonna put it race there. 0:08:50.480 --> 0:08:53.880 They'll do anything that and they wanted all this stuff, 0:08:53.920 --> 0:08:57.760 and yet you know, they their denials are it's never 0:08:57.800 --> 0:09:03.200 gonna satisfy. You're never gonna satisfy media or people who 0:09:03.280 --> 0:09:07.640 are naysayers or the Dodgers who suffered through the ass 0:09:07.640 --> 0:09:11.880 strows and then the red socks, and I feel bad 0:09:11.920 --> 0:09:14.600 for them because you know, it doesn't make a chance. 0:09:14.600 --> 0:09:18.120 And who was receiving those signals in the dugout? Who 0:09:18.240 --> 0:09:22.160 was the guys that were whistling, I mean, let's identify him. 0:09:22.760 --> 0:09:25.920 They're the ones that basically were duplicists in all this, 0:09:26.720 --> 0:09:30.040 and they're the ones that were responsible for getting the 0:09:30.080 --> 0:09:32.960 signs with slength. I mean, if I knew what was coming, 0:09:32.960 --> 0:09:34.880 I did seven hundred. I'll just tell you right now. 0:09:36.800 --> 0:09:38.040 He used to have it. He used to be a 0:09:38.040 --> 0:09:40.520 pitching him, a Bill Singer, the pitch for the Dodgers. 0:09:42.080 --> 0:09:44.600 Add a little slippery stuff every now and then he 0:09:44.800 --> 0:09:47.240 put on that little rule bass lane or grease or 0:09:47.240 --> 0:09:49.920 whatever he had. And he denied it all the time. 0:09:49.960 --> 0:09:53.319 But in the All Star Game in Kansas City, for 0:09:53.360 --> 0:09:55.760 some reason, his jacket was lying there on the bench, 0:09:56.280 --> 0:09:58.680 and you know, and I'm having fun putting a Dodger 0:09:58.760 --> 0:10:00.559 jacket on, and I reached them the pucket and there 0:10:00.640 --> 0:10:07.840 was there was the vassala. Okay, But all right, why 0:10:07.880 --> 0:10:10.360 I say that story was when he I couldn't hit him. 0:10:10.360 --> 0:10:11.640 I mean, I couldn't hit him with the boat, or 0:10:11.640 --> 0:10:13.800 he'd run that stinker in on near the slider away. 0:10:13.800 --> 0:10:16.400 And then one day somebody from the dugout said, look, 0:10:16.880 --> 0:10:18.600 I said what he said. Well, when he took those 0:10:18.679 --> 0:10:21.760 the curveball, he takes it any stretch. He takes his 0:10:21.840 --> 0:10:24.360 hands right up high by his chin. When he throws 0:10:24.440 --> 0:10:26.920 the slider, he takes it by his chest, And when 0:10:26.960 --> 0:10:29.560 he throws the fastball, he does it at his waist. 0:10:29.640 --> 0:10:31.600 He just takes it, puts the ball in the glove 0:10:31.640 --> 0:10:35.640 and goes to the waist. And I'm praying somebody gets on. Well, 0:10:35.679 --> 0:10:37.920 I had three chances with guys on. I had a 0:10:37.960 --> 0:10:41.439 two home runs in a double, and then some ridiculous 0:10:41.440 --> 0:10:46.440 fellow told him what he was doing. Kipps every another. Yeah, 0:10:46.480 --> 0:10:49.120 but you had the owner of the Astros saying that 0:10:49.200 --> 0:10:53.560 this didn't impact us winning the World Serious, how's that possible? Johnny? 0:10:53.559 --> 0:10:57.080 Then why why do you fire your GM and your manager? 0:10:57.400 --> 0:10:59.400 And why are you being punished by baseball if this 0:10:59.480 --> 0:11:03.959 didn't help? Well, he got he already knew that. I mean, 0:11:04.040 --> 0:11:07.199 he can't really believe that his players aren't good enough 0:11:07.200 --> 0:11:09.640 to win the World Series, so he's standing behind his 0:11:09.720 --> 0:11:12.040 players in that fashion, just saying, hey, you know, we 0:11:12.080 --> 0:11:15.600 wouldn't want anyway, and that's that's what every owner should believe. 0:11:15.679 --> 0:11:18.520 And he's he's going to say that because you know, 0:11:18.559 --> 0:11:20.520 the easiest thing in the world is trying to do well. 0:11:20.559 --> 0:11:22.040 The best thing in the world is trying to get 0:11:22.080 --> 0:11:24.640 this as far behind you as you can. And I 0:11:24.679 --> 0:11:27.880 think they chose the right guy and Dusty Baker to 0:11:28.520 --> 0:11:31.840 you know, to all set some of the media and 0:11:31.880 --> 0:11:34.600 also the critics and the stuff and try to temper that. 0:11:35.080 --> 0:11:37.440 And you know, a new guy would have a lot 0:11:37.480 --> 0:11:39.520 of problems with it, and dust he'll just slough it 0:11:39.600 --> 0:11:42.679 off and say, hey, hey, we're here to play baseball, 0:11:42.880 --> 0:11:45.880 and you guys, let's just let's just go at this 0:11:46.000 --> 0:11:49.920 and let's put it behind this. Let's play. But you know, 0:11:50.000 --> 0:11:52.280 the corruptive fans are never going to put it behind them. 0:11:52.280 --> 0:11:55.880 They're gonna they're gonna do everything they can but from 0:11:55.880 --> 0:11:59.240 the stands, and they'll, you know, if they'll let them 0:11:59.240 --> 0:12:03.000 bring garbies end. That was interesting because I never I 0:12:03.040 --> 0:12:04.760 mean I've never heard the garbage skin. Now I heard 0:12:04.760 --> 0:12:06.439 the whistles because you guys had brought it up and 0:12:06.559 --> 0:12:10.680 good and it was really clear. But somebody was getting 0:12:10.679 --> 0:12:13.400 the signs and somebody was distributing them to the hitter, 0:12:13.440 --> 0:12:17.600 and somebody was whistling. I mean Peanuts. Lowery was the 0:12:17.640 --> 0:12:21.280 first base coach for the San Francisco Giants, and he 0:12:21.480 --> 0:12:23.839 and certain catchers would have their legs open enough to 0:12:23.920 --> 0:12:27.200 think that he could actually steal the signs. And every 0:12:27.200 --> 0:12:29.360 time he would he would get the signs, he would 0:12:29.400 --> 0:12:33.120 give Willie a signal that he had the signs, and 0:12:33.200 --> 0:12:35.080 if he'd been over, it was a fastball. So every 0:12:35.080 --> 0:12:38.760 time every time Peanuts got a got the sign and 0:12:38.840 --> 0:12:40.800 got it to Willie and Willie hit a home run, 0:12:41.080 --> 0:12:44.920 he got a new suit. And I think I think 0:12:44.960 --> 0:12:49.400 Peanuts had twenty seven suits that year. Did somebody steal 0:12:49.440 --> 0:12:53.559 your signs? I'm sure they did, you know, And we 0:12:53.720 --> 0:12:56.880 were always aware that somebody at second base was the 0:12:57.000 --> 0:12:59.440 lean or the stand up or some kind of motion 0:12:59.480 --> 0:13:02.480 that would you know, indicate to them that that it 0:13:02.559 --> 0:13:08.120 was that And that's okay though, right, that's baseball. Well 0:13:08.200 --> 0:13:09.760 it is, and you know, you just go out and 0:13:09.800 --> 0:13:12.120 you tell the picture beforehand. Look, I'm gonna give you 0:13:12.160 --> 0:13:14.640 the curveball signs. Don't pay any attention to it. To 0:13:14.720 --> 0:13:19.760 still the fastball right in his ear and once now 0:13:19.840 --> 0:13:22.160 the batter's up there and he's looking for the curveball, 0:13:23.080 --> 0:13:25.440 and he gets the fastball up and end under his chin. 0:13:26.160 --> 0:13:28.560 He said, oh, I'm not gonna trust these guys again. 0:13:29.320 --> 0:13:32.439 Now I don't know what's coming. I remember when Jeane 0:13:32.520 --> 0:13:36.439 mallet Pete. They couldn't get Pete out, didn't matter. He 0:13:36.760 --> 0:13:40.199 just got hits. It hits, it's hits. It's so at 0:13:40.240 --> 0:13:42.679 the start of a game play, Dalrymple was the catcher 0:13:43.360 --> 0:13:45.760 and he said, Jean said, to tell you what's coming. 0:13:49.280 --> 0:13:52.080 So he said, all right, here's the fastball, fastball right 0:13:52.120 --> 0:13:54.520 down the middle. Pete takes it. All right, Now you 0:13:54.600 --> 0:13:58.040 got a curveball. He takes the curveball. He steps out 0:13:58.040 --> 0:13:59.839 of the steps out of the box and tells the 0:14:00.000 --> 0:14:04.480 part would you tell him to shot? He didn't want 0:14:04.480 --> 0:14:07.040 to know the signs I could steal. I could steal 0:14:07.080 --> 0:14:09.200 signs from this by watching. I mean steal a meaning 0:14:09.200 --> 0:14:12.120 that I would watch the pitcher and he would always 0:14:12.160 --> 0:14:14.480 give a little something that he's with his glove. He 0:14:14.520 --> 0:14:16.640 would flare the glove open on his curveball. He would 0:14:16.640 --> 0:14:18.920 squeeze it tight if he brought it from high round 0:14:18.960 --> 0:14:21.560 his side. He'd come up with the seams for the slider, 0:14:21.760 --> 0:14:24.560 he'd go cross seams with the fastball, and it was 0:14:24.600 --> 0:14:26.680 still hard to do. But it's still hard to get hit. 0:14:27.080 --> 0:14:29.720 But you know there were guys that had telltale little 0:14:29.760 --> 0:14:32.480 things that would give them away, and you tried to 0:14:32.480 --> 0:14:34.560 get an edge as much as you could. And I 0:14:34.640 --> 0:14:37.800 hate to see what's happened with this, but you know 0:14:37.840 --> 0:14:40.720 there was the Red Sox and you know what other teams. 0:14:40.720 --> 0:14:43.240 There's other teams out there. I'm sure that if I done, 0:14:43.280 --> 0:14:45.359 I mean they did at Wrigley Field in the scoreboard, 0:14:45.600 --> 0:14:49.080 they did it in Boston and the scoreboards so so 0:14:49.360 --> 0:14:52.520 they were stealing signs. It is that everybody could whistle right, 0:14:54.600 --> 0:14:57.080 Johnny Bench, Hall of Famer Joning and Stan Patrick show 0:14:57.120 --> 0:15:01.880 I mentioned this yesterday. The best infield, including the catcher 0:15:01.920 --> 0:15:04.360 of all time is the big Red Machine with you, 0:15:04.560 --> 0:15:09.680 Perez Morgan, concepts you own and Rose, I'm thinking, who 0:15:09.800 --> 0:15:12.440 was the second best infield in baseball history in your 0:15:12.440 --> 0:15:17.320 opinion modern day? You know, the Dodgers weren't far behind. 0:15:18.480 --> 0:15:22.680 You know, they had Garvey, Lopes Russell and say, yeah, 0:15:22.680 --> 0:15:24.400 it was kind of hard to be and the Phillies 0:15:24.400 --> 0:15:27.720 were pretty darn good with Smitty at third, Boa was 0:15:27.720 --> 0:15:30.360 at short you know, Dave Cash who I think was 0:15:30.400 --> 0:15:34.640 that there at times. And yeah, I mean I would 0:15:34.680 --> 0:15:36.960 have to go back and you know you would have 0:15:37.000 --> 0:15:41.120 to help me on that your opinions. But we were 0:15:41.120 --> 0:15:45.320 pretty good. Yeah, we're really good. Yeah, don't don't, don't 0:15:45.320 --> 0:15:48.920 be humble because we know that we know Rose is 0:15:48.960 --> 0:15:52.000 a Hall of Fame caliber player. Concepts you own to 0:15:52.160 --> 0:15:55.800 me was a hall of fame shortstop. You had Morgan 0:15:56.240 --> 0:15:59.320 and Perez and then you, which are obviously, no doubt 0:15:59.320 --> 0:16:01.440 hall of famers. US have brought this up to I said, 0:16:01.800 --> 0:16:04.440 you might even agree with me if the game is 0:16:04.480 --> 0:16:06.400 on the line, of all of those players on the 0:16:06.440 --> 0:16:08.960 Cincinnati Reds, the one guy you would want it to 0:16:09.000 --> 0:16:16.400 play with the game on the line is Tony Perez. Yeah, 0:16:16.440 --> 0:16:18.680 I mean I want me first, Okay, but I'm taking 0:16:18.680 --> 0:16:24.520 you out of this. But Perez was a great clutch hitter. Yeah. Yeah. 0:16:24.560 --> 0:16:26.520 And Joe may have been the best player I've ever 0:16:26.640 --> 0:16:31.880 saint ever period, better than anybody. May's mantel will be 0:16:32.080 --> 0:16:34.760 I mean that whole group. Joe Morgan was the best 0:16:34.760 --> 0:16:38.160 player he ever saw. Yeah, he could get a hit, 0:16:38.280 --> 0:16:39.920 he could take a walk to steal a base, you 0:16:40.000 --> 0:16:41.400 get a home run, and he was kind. He go 0:16:41.480 --> 0:16:47.040 on to gold glove. Yeah, I don't know if we 0:16:47.080 --> 0:16:49.080 were the best. We were among the top two. Let 0:16:49.080 --> 0:16:54.920 me just say that. What infield, Yeah, I got out 0:16:54.960 --> 0:16:57.480 for us, but I got a Hall of Famer at 0:16:57.480 --> 0:17:02.240 every position. Basically, I know, I know, it's it's pretty 0:17:02.240 --> 0:17:04.199 amazing and that to put together a team that like 0:17:04.440 --> 0:17:06.399 And how much would you have to pay today? You 0:17:06.400 --> 0:17:10.439 couldn't keep you thus together in Cincinnati. No, No, it 0:17:10.600 --> 0:17:13.359 was you know, through a couple of us. You know, 0:17:13.400 --> 0:17:15.119 we'd all be over with the Wells in the twenties 0:17:16.440 --> 0:17:22.200 with four hundred millions. I still talk to you all. 0:17:24.240 --> 0:17:28.240 What was the most you ever made? Nine hundred, nine 0:17:28.280 --> 0:17:33.800 hundred thousand. I made two point two in my entire career. Wow. 0:17:34.080 --> 0:17:36.200 I made eleven thousand my first year, which was a 0:17:36.280 --> 0:17:40.080 thousand above the minimum. I won the Rookie of the Year. 0:17:40.119 --> 0:17:42.320 I made twenty on MB team, made forty one. M 0:17:42.359 --> 0:17:45.000 VP again I made eighty and then I had the 0:17:45.080 --> 0:17:48.520 lung surgery and which kind of slowed everything down. So 0:17:49.119 --> 0:17:52.440 Garrett Cole will make the amount of money you made 0:17:52.480 --> 0:17:55.800 in your career in the month of April. No, in 0:17:55.840 --> 0:18:00.680 the first two weeks of it. I mean it's four 0:18:00.760 --> 0:18:02.760 million a month, I mean easy, and it makes more 0:18:02.760 --> 0:18:04.680 than that. So he's making more than that. And you 0:18:04.720 --> 0:18:06.639 know he's got a ten or twelve and date grace period. 0:18:06.720 --> 0:18:11.879 So hey, it's great to hear from talk about the steroids. Yeah, 0:18:11.880 --> 0:18:16.239 thank you. Yeah, just you guys are guys are worth 0:18:16.280 --> 0:18:18.400 one hundred million dollars now for do you think it's 0:18:18.520 --> 0:18:20.920 how important our Hall of Fame would be? But they're 0:18:20.960 --> 0:18:23.080 living the life and I don't think. I don't think 0:18:23.160 --> 0:18:25.720 Bonds or Clements has any remorse if they don't make 0:18:25.760 --> 0:18:27.359 it in the Hall of Fame. The amount of money 0:18:27.400 --> 0:18:30.119 they made in the second half of their career, the 0:18:30.119 --> 0:18:32.919 twilight of their career is you know, I'm sure they 0:18:32.960 --> 0:18:34.880 look at it saying those guys in the last few 0:18:34.960 --> 0:18:37.680 years that have been tied to steroids and are in 0:18:38.000 --> 0:18:42.640 And I think they're just making a making a sort 0:18:42.680 --> 0:18:46.720 of a thing about about Clemons and and and Bonds. 0:18:46.760 --> 0:18:48.760 So I think they're trying to make examples. Do you 0:18:48.800 --> 0:18:50.600 think that they're going to get those guys are gonna 0:18:50.600 --> 0:18:55.119 get in? Yeah? I do that. How do you feel 0:18:58.920 --> 0:19:02.399 I'm you know, I'm I'm in between. I mean, I 0:19:03.440 --> 0:19:06.400 you know, when I remember when Frank Robinson, I think 0:19:06.440 --> 0:19:08.840 the first meeting they ever had, and they said, this 0:19:08.920 --> 0:19:11.040 isn't for the very good, this isn't for the great 0:19:11.800 --> 0:19:17.199 all the Hall of Fame. So yeah, so I'm I 0:19:17.320 --> 0:19:22.119 like the guys personally. Um, it's it's hard to deal with. 0:19:22.200 --> 0:19:24.400 It's hard for us to live with. But I think 0:19:24.400 --> 0:19:26.800 with the last few years and everything else, with people 0:19:26.840 --> 0:19:30.040 with shadows over their careers and stuff, I think it's 0:19:30.760 --> 0:19:34.240 it'll be interesting. So I'll go with the sports writers 0:19:34.240 --> 0:19:36.240 if they decide to do it, which they haven't, but 0:19:36.800 --> 0:19:39.639 I'll be at the Hall of Fame wait for a 0:19:39.720 --> 0:19:43.960 year induction. Great to hear from you, Johnny, Thank you 0:19:44.080 --> 0:19:46.800 very much and good luck to that health. Yeah, thank you. 0:19:46.840 --> 0:19:50.240 But that's Johnny Hall of Famer. I love when he 0:19:50.280 --> 0:19:53.440 comes on, tells those stories. Just stuff where you had 0:19:53.480 --> 0:19:56.280 a manager who couldn't get Pete Rose out and said, 0:19:57.040 --> 0:20:00.159 just tell the catcher to tell Pete what's coming. Just 0:20:00.160 --> 0:20:03.280 a messy up. That's good stuff. Yeah, you could hear 0:20:03.320 --> 0:20:07.800 in his voice and the steroids he didn't want those guys, dude. YEA, 0:20:08.280 --> 0:20:10.920 I love though guys like Johnny bencour all time grades. 0:20:10.920 --> 0:20:12.439 When you say who do you want to up the Medicas, 0:20:12.560 --> 0:20:17.120 well started me. He can't not be honest. I never 0:20:17.160 --> 0:20:19.600 heard Johnny say that Joe's the best player he ever saw, 0:20:19.720 --> 0:20:23.000 and that's saying a lot. But Joe Morgan was like, 0:20:23.119 --> 0:20:27.640 Joe came from the Astros and I remember that trade happening, 0:20:27.640 --> 0:20:31.480 and you're like, okay, like the guy's hitting two sixty 0:20:31.560 --> 0:20:33.080 for the Astros, and all of a sudden he came 0:20:33.119 --> 0:20:37.360 in and in that lineup and he was unbelievable. Joe 0:20:37.400 --> 0:20:40.960 Morgan was unbelievable. Joe Morgan had a season where his 0:20:41.080 --> 0:20:43.920 MVP he led the league in on base percentage and slugging. 0:20:44.000 --> 0:20:47.080 Those rarely go together. And this is pre steroid era 0:20:47.280 --> 0:20:50.960 and stealing a base. Yeah, yeah, that was a special team. 0:20:51.000 --> 0:20:54.360 I got spoiled watching baseball. I had the best up 0:20:54.720 --> 0:20:58.879 if I took the catcher, second baseman, shortstop, in center 0:20:58.920 --> 0:21:02.880 field or nobody can challenge what they had as far 0:21:02.880 --> 0:21:06.440 as fielding row. 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