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Speaker 1: So we crowned a national champion last night. Michigan wins

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Speaker 1: the national championship and don't actually get a crown, do

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Speaker 1: they No, but we crown one, which means I could

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Speaker 1: shift my focus over to Augusta. I'm very excited because

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Speaker 1: this gets underway tomorrow. Bomani Jones will join us at

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Speaker 1: about fifteen minutes. Thank you, Iowa, Sam. We needed that,

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Speaker 1: we needed another one. Thank you appreciate it.

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Speaker 2: Izzy.

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Speaker 1: When you think of some of the great story tellers

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Speaker 1: of all time, it's sports media who is second place

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Speaker 1: to me.

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Speaker 2: Guy, you got that one, Well done, Well done.

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Speaker 4: I was gonna say your Finney story, it's just it

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Speaker 4: sticks in my head for life.

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Speaker 5: I would say.

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Speaker 4: The person that is used more like a verb or

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Speaker 4: and adjective is Tomernaldi.

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Speaker 5: Yes, good guess because Yeah, I was.

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Speaker 4: Always wanting to be the next to tom Ernaldi, or

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Speaker 4: if I'm going to tom Ernaldi, this thing by making

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Speaker 4: people cry, that type of thing.

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Speaker 1: This is the best week on the sports calendar for me.

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Speaker 1: And I don't feel like is he is into it.

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Speaker 1: I'm not certain tailors into it because he's still focused

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Speaker 1: on Carolina and who's going to get the coaching job,

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Speaker 1: even though they gave the coaching job to Mike Maloney already,

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Speaker 1: Mike Malone, he is praying that that gets reversed somehow.

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Speaker 2: It seems like.

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Speaker 6: I'm on board with it. Are you really trying to

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Speaker 6: book Tyler Hansbrough right now?

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Speaker 2: Psychod of that? By the way, it is college basketball

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Speaker 2: player of all time.

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Speaker 5: Don't correct yourself anymore when you say Maloney's I know.

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Speaker 2: That, right, I know? I know.

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Speaker 1: So tom Ronaldi, Mikey, I want to play a game

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Speaker 1: and Dan Byer, if you're close to a microphone, please

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Speaker 1: come over. I think you will like this, okay.

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Speaker 2: Mikey A.

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Speaker 1: Tom Ronaldi was on Stegattson Company a couple of years ago,

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Speaker 1: right before the Masters, and we had a great discussion

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Speaker 1: with him about the course, about the tournament, what that

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Speaker 1: place means to so many you know, kinds of people,

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Speaker 1: And I am wondering here there are only three options.

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Speaker 2: Tears, goosebumps, or I don't give a bleep.

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Speaker 1: Okay, So I'm going to play the sound it's like

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Speaker 1: six minutes long because Tom Ronaldi, like myself, is a

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Speaker 1: great storyteller, and he takes a minute to tell this story,

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Speaker 1: but it is worth it. And so I am asking

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Speaker 1: you Taylor, tears, goosebumps, or I don't give a bleep.

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Speaker 1: I don't want Taylor's answer. I want mikey A's prediction.

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Speaker 7: Taylor, I had a hard time placing him.

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Speaker 6: I'm going to give him I don't.

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Speaker 7: Give a bleep?

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Speaker 2: Okay. How about is he goosebumps? Definite goosebumps? All right?

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Speaker 2: How just because you like storytelling?

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Speaker 8: Right?

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Speaker 2: Good storytelling? Yeah, he's going to appreciate that.

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Speaker 6: You the big j of the journalism of it all?

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Speaker 2: Okay, born out Ricardo, What do you think he doesn't

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Speaker 7: I'm gonna say he doesn't give a Yeah.

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Speaker 2: How about Iowa Sam? Iowa Sam is.

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Speaker 5: Going to be uh not goosebumps?

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Speaker 1: Okay, not listening right, doesn't care ep? Jason is he here?

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Speaker 1: He's not here, okay, so we don't care about him today.

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Speaker 1: And how about Dan Bayer because I hand Buyer's full

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Speaker 1: on tears, weeping, Yes.

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Speaker 7: Yes, weeping.

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Speaker 1: It's a special place, it's a special week, it's a

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Speaker 1: special tournament. And here is just one example of why.

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Speaker 1: This is me with Tom Arnaldi a couple of years ago.

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Speaker 9: But a weird game for ten million dollars, Tom, this

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Speaker 9: is such an odd game, but I have to ask it.

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Speaker 9: It's you, it's Scott van Pelt, and of course it's

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Speaker 9: jim nantz Okay. Ten million dollars goes to the person

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Speaker 9: with the coolest story involving Augusta.

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Speaker 2: Tom Ronaldi is pulling out what story?

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Speaker 10: So I had a chance to play Augusta National a

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Speaker 8: Oh god, but the last time.

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Speaker 10: I played, I was invited by a member. He had

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Speaker 10: invited me and two others. We had the date, we

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Speaker 10: were going to come in, stay at the cabin overnight.

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Speaker 10: We were going to play the afternoon before, have dinner,

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Speaker 10: get up the next morning, play again and leave. The

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Speaker 10: member is just a wonderful, wonderful guy. And a week

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Speaker 8: You can bring anyone you want.

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Speaker 8: So I called my brother.

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Speaker 10: And he could not get out of a work obligation.

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Speaker 8: My brother works for the Federal Reserve.

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Speaker 10: And he had this he had to go to Washington

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Speaker 10: and he could not get out of it. The person

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Speaker 10: I called Stu is a great friend of mine, Kevin,

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Speaker 10: who I've known for more than twenty five years at

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Speaker 10: that point, without getting into all the details, he he'd

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Speaker 10: suffered a terrible, terrible loss. He'd lost an infant child,

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Speaker 10: and he loves golf, he loves the Masters. And I

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Speaker 10: called the member and I said to the member, this

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Speaker 10: is the person that I'm that I'm I'd like to invite,

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Speaker 10: but I want you to know why, because he's been

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Speaker 10: through the most difficult thing any person can go through,

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Speaker 8: He's shown so much heart through so much pain.

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Speaker 10: And we're playing and there's a moment to where Kevin

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Speaker 10: Sort of strolling and looking around, he's distanced from the caddy.

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Speaker 10: He's just walking down eleven fair Way by himself. And

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Speaker 10: the member who I guarantee has taken dozens and dozens

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Speaker 10: place and experience, you would think he had never done

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Speaker 10: it before. And he stopped me, and he put his

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Speaker 10: out fifty sixty yards in front of us, and he

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Speaker 8: God. And I choked.

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Speaker 10: Up, like I can't even tell you about what that

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Speaker 10: But the fact that he gave me this additional opportunity.

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Speaker 10: This was the person I chose, And it meant that

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Speaker 10: much to him, not to me, to him that he

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Speaker 10: would stop me and say, look at that, look at

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Speaker 10: what he's feeling, look at how he's appreciating it, look

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Speaker 8: That's Augusta, that's why you come here.

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Speaker 10: And to me to the day I die, I will

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Speaker 10: never ever forget that moment with that member and my

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Speaker 8: Front of us, and the member.

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Speaker 1: I'm certain Tom is saying, hey, just leave him alone,

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Speaker 1: let him enjoy the moment, let him take it all in, right,

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Speaker 1: That's what.

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Speaker 2: He was there, just peace.

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Speaker 8: He just said, I want you to just hang back

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Speaker 8: for a minute. Jesus, just look at him. Look at him.

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Speaker 10: What he's what he's experiencing right now, that's the gift

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Speaker 10: to this place, right. And you know, did my friend

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Speaker 10: play particularly well? No?

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Speaker 8: Did it matter to the member zero.

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Speaker 10: The only thing that mattered to that member was that

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Speaker 10: this man had gone through terrible loss and this day,

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Speaker 10: this drive down Magnolia Lane, staying in the cabin, having dinner,

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Speaker 10: getting up the next morning, all of it. He knew

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Speaker 10: a day. He deserves it.

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Speaker 8: I don't even know him. He's a friend of yours,

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Speaker 8: you're a friend.

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Speaker 10: Of mine, And this place is in some small way

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Speaker 10: for this period of time, Stude going to let him heal,

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Speaker 10: going to let his heart heal, and I'll tell you.

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Speaker 10: My friend talks to me about that thirty hours, right,

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Speaker 10: multiple times a year, multiple times a year.

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Speaker 2: Love it.

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Speaker 8: I have a story. That's my story about Augusta.

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Speaker 9: You won the ten million dollars the second you open

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Speaker 9: your mouth, right.

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Speaker 1: The second and the second you open your mouth, you

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Speaker 1: wont the ten million dollars. A gay, all right, Taylor,

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Speaker 1: So let's get your real answer here.

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Speaker 2: Tears because I was crying. Wait wait, wait, wait, and

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Speaker 2: I was there for it.

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Speaker 5: Is crying.

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Speaker 4: Laughing also an option, not because I'm insensitive, but I'll

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Speaker 2: Okay.

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Speaker 1: Yes, I don't care how you cry. I mean you

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Speaker 1: can cry because you're laughing at me. You can cry

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Speaker 1: because it was an emotional story told by one of

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Speaker 1: the great storytellers second place to me in the history

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Speaker 2: Dude could spin a yard.

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Speaker 1: I mean, he's so good, it's unbelievable. Oh my god,

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Speaker 1: is he good? Taylor tears, goose bumps or I don't

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Speaker 6: So I was on the fence until we got this

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Speaker 6: one more time, Ricardo.

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Speaker 8: That's Augusta.

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Speaker 1: Yeah the pause, Yeah, let me hear it one more

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Speaker 8: That's a gusta.

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Speaker 6: Okay, and I know what you're trying to do. So

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Speaker 6: you're trying to pigeonhole me to say something bad about

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Speaker 6: Tom or Nole. I dare you You want me to

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Speaker 6: say that he only has one note and he's gonna

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Speaker 6: tell that same exact story. Yeah, forty different ways.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 6: I would never. I would never even consider it. That

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Speaker 6: thought never even crossed my mind.

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Speaker 1: All right, So goosebumps, Yeah, goosebumps, bumps. Hold on a second,

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Speaker 1: let's go to boardot Ricardo. I have a feeling he

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Speaker 1: didn't give a bleep.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm watching part in the mess right now.

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Speaker 7: I got you pegged, Ricardo.

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Speaker 1: Let's go to Iowa Sam. I'm pretty certain he's also

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Speaker 1: watching Paralta.

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Speaker 2: Go ahead, Iowa Sam. Well, I'm looking at my arms.

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Speaker 2: I see a few small little I guess they'd be goosebumps.

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Speaker 5: So that's Augusta baby goosebumps.

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Speaker 2: That's a gust all right. That means you're alive.

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Speaker 5: I'm alive.

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Speaker 2: That's for the people in the back. Yes, I'm gonna

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Speaker 2: go to Dan.

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Speaker 1: Last year, Israel Gutierrez was laughing, he was snorting, he

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Speaker 2: That's what happens when you get goosebumps.

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Speaker 4: Yet and then they immediately just hid under my skin.

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Speaker 5: I don't know what that means.

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Speaker 4: Once he said that's Augusta, because it wasn't even a

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Speaker 1: It's the powers of Augusta. Are you listening to Tom's like.

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Speaker 2: The warners of Lake Minnetonka, Augusta.

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Speaker 8: That's Augusta, thank you.

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Speaker 4: And then what brought out the tears was when I

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Speaker 2: Reactions while I was crying, Well, if.

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Speaker 4: You would have just cut out everything else and just

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Speaker 2: So I got ab in.

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Speaker 4: My answer is I felt all the things except for

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Speaker 2: But you felt the full range of emotion there, including laughter.

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Speaker 4: Well done, well worth the six minutes I have, go ahead, Taylor.

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Speaker 6: Some people might say that the only thing they felt

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Speaker 1: But it could have been not me, and again not me.

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Speaker 1: I don't think it. It's a dangerous game. It's Tom Rinaldi. Okay,

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Speaker 1: he's a legend. I had Dan Byer crying weeping because

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Speaker 1: who's associated with this show. Dan, what were your emotions

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Speaker 1: during that?

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Speaker 5: I was cutting onions.

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Speaker 12: Yes, yes, because it's the child portion of it as well,

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Speaker 12: been there. We haven't had conversations. I've been fortunate enough

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Speaker 2: My goodness.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, when you go there, it sucks your right down

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Speaker 1: to Amen Corner. You're forced to just walk down there

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Speaker 5: Yes, Hey man Thompson Corner.

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Speaker 1: Hey, look at you all right, Bomani Jones back to

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Speaker 12: Company go to catch up with Bamani Jones and just

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Speaker 12: a sac But first I gotta tell you what's happening

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Speaker 12: on this Tuesday, April seventh. We start out in golf.

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Speaker 12: Rory mcroy's, the defending champion at the Masters. Tonight gets

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Speaker 12: reflecting today on what it's been like to have the

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Speaker 11: I believe it it was twelve months ago that I

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Speaker 11: But yeah, look, it's been an amazing twelve months. You're

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Speaker 12: Rory's going to be teeing off on Thursday and first

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Speaker 12: round play at ten thirty one Eastern time. He's going

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Speaker 12: Cameron Young, an eighteen year old US amateur champion Mason

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Speaker 12: Howell as for Scottie Scheffler, the world number one, will

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Speaker 12: play with Robert McIntyre and Gary Woodland and start Thursday

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Speaker 12: Queen's at the bottom of the first inning. North Carolina

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Speaker 12: is giving new Met's basketball coach Michael Malona six year

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Speaker 12: deal worth eight point three million dollars annually. That's, according

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Speaker 12: to Espano, would put him second behind only Bill Self

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Speaker 12: for the highest annual salary in college hoops. Louisville freshman

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Speaker 12: guard Mikel Brown junior entering the NBA Draft as a

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Speaker 12: potential lottery pick, and Fernandoman Dooz are going to stay

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Speaker 12: in Miami and not attend the NFL Draft in Pittsburgh.

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Speaker 12: Stu back to you.

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Speaker 1: Bomani Jones is with us here on Stugatson Company. Check

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Speaker 1: out his podcast The Right Time with Bomani Jones wherever

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Speaker 1: you get your podcast, before we get to the championship game,

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Speaker 1: before we get to Carolina basketball, before we help Tailor

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Speaker 1: out here, because.

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Speaker 2: He is uh well, he's all kinds of upset.

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Speaker 1: To the idea of Mike Malone being the next head

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Speaker 1: coach at Carolina. Bamani, are you a bench below the

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Speaker 1: court or a bench at court level type of guy, like,

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Speaker 1: which way do you like it?

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Speaker 10: Oh?

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Speaker 7: I hate the elevated court.

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Speaker 2: I can't stand it.

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Speaker 13: I can't stand it. I can't stand it. It makes

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Speaker 7: Ridiculous, Like who asks for this?

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Speaker 2: I don't like.

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Speaker 13: I think no one's made a compelling case for me

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Speaker 7: I don't. I don't like you.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm with you. I feel like someone's gonna get hurt.

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Speaker 2: It's dangerous, you know, Yes.

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Speaker 13: Yeah, And that's what they don't get is that just

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Speaker 1: Yes, if you put a future prop be in on

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Speaker 13: I don't understand. It's not even that I don't understand it.

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Speaker 7: I can't say that it's a bad idea.

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Speaker 13: a world in which this works out very well. I

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Speaker 2: Like that part doesn't really matter. So if you're.

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Speaker 13: Asking me, can somebody go get five, seven, eight guys

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Speaker 13: and give him to Mike Malone and can Mike Malone

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Speaker 2: I'm going to assume that he can.

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Speaker 6: Yes, Bo Money, What would you say to the people

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Speaker 6: who are saying that everything that is a pro for

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Speaker 6: Mike Malone Michael Malone, Sorry, they were also saying those

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Speaker 1: Taylor's one of those guys, So just say, you know, yeah,

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Speaker 7: Though.

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Speaker 13: The last team I saw Michael Malone coach was good.

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Speaker 7: Yeah in the NBA.

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Speaker 10: Yea.

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Speaker 13: The last team I saw Bill Belichick coach in the

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Speaker 13: think it's fair to extrapolate too much there. Also, Michael

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Speaker 13: Malone is twenty years younger than him. I don't think

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Speaker 2: The course of this.

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Speaker 13: And Belichick's had this problem with the Patriots and he

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Speaker 7: Is, why do you keep getting these guys.

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Speaker 2: Nobody else wants?

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Speaker 13: Right, Like why do you think that you can make

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Speaker 13: an acc team out of players from the MAC? I

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Speaker 13: for doing the same thing with the Patriots also, But

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Speaker 13: I have no reason to think that Mike Malone Mike Malone,

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Speaker 13: biggest difference between the two of those games. Like, I

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Speaker 13: think that's a I understand why people say that, but

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Speaker 13: I think that's a lazy argument. Like if some other

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Speaker 13: school had hired Michael Malone, the response would not be, well,

446
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Speaker 13: look at what happened with Bill Belichick, you know.

447
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Speaker 7: What I mean?

448
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Speaker 2: Like they're not.

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Speaker 13: The only thing they have in common really is that

450
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Speaker 13: they're both there North Carolina.

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Speaker 2: Yes, uh, you know this program.

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Speaker 1: There is not a person I know that knows North Carolina,

453
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Speaker 1: the basketball program, the history of the program, what it

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Speaker 1: means to the people in Chapel Hill better than you, Bamani.

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Speaker 2: So I think what's going on here.

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Speaker 1: This is just so jarring because for the first time,

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Speaker 1: Carolina went outside the family, and that's not something people

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Speaker 1: are accustomed to in Chapel Hill.

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Speaker 13: I mean, guys, it's the first coaching search that they've

460
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Speaker 13: had in seventy years.

461
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Speaker 2: Michael Legitimate.

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Speaker 13: I guess you could make an argument that when they

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Speaker 13: hired Dean Smith in nineteen sixty one that there was

464
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Speaker 13: some measure of search, but even that, as I recall,

465
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Speaker 13: was an internal hire.

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Speaker 7: Yes, they haven't had.

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Speaker 13: A coaching search in seventy something years. There was literally

468
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Speaker 13: no telling who would wind up getting this job because

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Speaker 13: there seem to be no candidates available from as they

470
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Speaker 13: like to say it, within the family. I mean, the

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Speaker 13: most qualified person to hire from within the family was

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Speaker 13: Hubert Davis. Yes, he's been to a Final Four, he's

473
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Speaker 13: been to Sweet sixteen, he's done not a terrible job

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Speaker 13: at recruiting, like he was the guy that had the

475
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Speaker 13: best resume for they set Wes Miller out hoping one

476
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Speaker 13: day and maybe he'd be the guy. Nope, he got

477
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Speaker 13: fired at Cincinnati. There was nowhere else to go. So

478
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Speaker 13: then once that happened, it was like, Oh, it could

479
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Speaker 13: be anybody. I thought it would wind up being Billy Donovan's.

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Speaker 13: I understand the argument that if you feel like you

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Speaker 13: can't wait for Billy Donovant, I think what seems to

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Speaker 13: be more likely is that Billy Donovant has outlasted everybody

483
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Speaker 13: else in Chicago and he will get kicked upstairs, and

484
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Speaker 13: he would rather do that job than to coach college basketball,

485
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Speaker 13: Which I mean, I could totally get this. The other

486
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Speaker 13: names that you would think of going to get, you

487
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Speaker 13: could get guys that would be okay, but it was

488
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Speaker 13: going to be nobody that would really excite you.

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Speaker 7: But the truth is, if this job is.

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Speaker 13: What I think it is, and I think what I

491
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Speaker 13: would turn of, most reasonable people believe that it is.

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Speaker 13: You don't need a great coach to do a very

493
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Speaker 13: good job at this school.

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Speaker 1: Yes, what do you believe, Yeah, you don't know, But

495
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Speaker 1: what do you believe? This job to be you still

496
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Speaker 1: believe it to be one of the premier jobs.

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Speaker 13: Right I if they can get them money right and

498
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Speaker 13: get some alignment going with the people who make decisions.

499
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Speaker 13: And I'm not nearly as tapped in on these things

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Speaker 13: as I once was, but neither of those things seems.

501
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Speaker 7: To truly be the case. Right.

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Speaker 13: Yes, but if they can get that right, it's still

503
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Speaker 13: North Carolina, right they still have the institutional commitment to

504
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Speaker 13: being good at basketball. I don't know how much of

505
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Speaker 13: the stuff that used to matter in terms of recruiting

506
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Speaker 13: continues to matter now, But I don't think you have

507
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Speaker 13: a compelling argument for there somehow being jobs that are

508
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Speaker 13: better than this one to have, unless somebody's trying to

509
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Speaker 13: make the point now that all the jobs are the same,

510
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Speaker 13: which I'm not far enough down the road yet. To

511
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Speaker 13: get to that place is to get to the place

512
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Speaker 13: of saying that I know that in my life and

513
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Speaker 13: nil and all this has changed everything, but I know

514
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Speaker 13: that in my life anytime there's been these big time programs,

515
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Speaker 13: whether it be a football or basketball, with the exception

516
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Speaker 13: of Indiana basketball, and they start telling you, oh.

517
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Speaker 14: Man, it's not like it used to be. Oh Man,

518
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Speaker 14: Oklahoma's not a big deal anymore like that. Oh man,

519
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Speaker 14: usc doesn't matter like that, Hey, Iole State, you really

520
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Speaker 14: think it's gonna be the No, they all been, They

521
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Speaker 14: all been the same.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, But Taylor's upset because he feels like Iowa and

524
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Speaker 1: Iowa State turned down this job. Were you surprised by

525
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Speaker 1: the amount of people who turned down this job?

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Speaker 13: Let's find out how many of them actually trying, you

527
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Speaker 13: know what I mean? Like, a great way to make

528
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Speaker 13: yourself look good is to pull your name out of contention.

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Speaker 7: For a job that you may not have. Like, actually, hand,

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Speaker 7: I'm just.

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Speaker 13: Saying this, and I know that maybe somebody really gets

532
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Speaker 13: charged up about working.

533
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Speaker 2: In the Midwest or anything else.

534
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Speaker 13: But if you say you got offered the North Carolina

535
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Speaker 13: job and you stayed at Iowa, that is the definition

536
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Speaker 13: of weird flex But okay, like that, that does not

537
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Speaker 13: impress me about you.

538
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Speaker 2: Tommy Lloyd.

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Speaker 13: Not leaving Arizona is in line with historical precedent. Yes,

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Speaker 13: Like Arizona is not a job that people typically leave

541
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Speaker 13: to go do something better that's not there. I think

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Speaker 13: Dan Walkin put it like this, If you got a

543
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Speaker 13: top twenty job, you typically don't leave before a top

544
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Speaker 13: five job.

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Speaker 1: Correct, there was a time where Arizona was really good.

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Speaker 1: Loud Olson would not have left Arizona to go to North.

547
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Speaker 2: Carolina, right, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, you

548
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Speaker 2: would not have it.

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Speaker 13: And look, it's wild to look back and think Arizona

550
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Speaker 13: hasn't been to a Final four before this year. They

551
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Speaker 13: hadn't been one in twenty five years. That was kind

552
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Speaker 13: of a wild thing. But like you got a job

553
00:27:19,640 --> 00:27:21,320
Speaker 13: where you could make some hey, you go ahead and

554
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Speaker 13: do it.

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Speaker 2: There's a pretty clear.

556
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Speaker 7: Ceiling on how good you could be at Iowa.

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Speaker 13: I think one would say if you would not leave

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Speaker 13: that to go to North Carolina, I don't think that

559
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Speaker 13: speaks to the job at North Carolina.

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Speaker 6: Bou MANI, When Michael Malone takes this job, do you

561
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Speaker 6: think he's taking it with the thought that he's going

562
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Speaker 6: to be the North Carolina coach until he retires or

563
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Speaker 6: is he taking this job thinking best case scenario. I'm

564
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Speaker 6: back at the NBA in a couple of years, my

565
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Speaker 6: pick of my pick A team.

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Speaker 13: I have questions about what teams wanted to hire him, Yeah,

567
00:27:54,520 --> 00:27:57,840
Speaker 13: whether that was an option. I know he has daughters

568
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Speaker 13: who are at Carolina which I am sure made this

569
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Speaker 13: job much more attractive for him because he's probably spent

570
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Speaker 13: a lot of this year. You probably spend more time

571
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Speaker 13: around him daughters than he has like ever before in

572
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Speaker 13: his life, like when they get out of school. Maybe

573
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Speaker 13: it's a different sort of question. He's just like, everybody's

574
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Speaker 13: going to see how everybody feels about each other when

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Speaker 13: they do this job. I'd like if he only stays

576
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Speaker 13: five years, which is totally on the board. It may

577
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Speaker 13: be because everybody is tired of everybody after five years,

578
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Speaker 13: but you might win a championship in the course of

579
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Speaker 13: those five years, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 7: Like that's on the board. I don't I find it.

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Speaker 13: Unlikely that he's just like, oh, I'm doing this to

582
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Speaker 13: parlay this into an NBA job.

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Speaker 2: That would be a weird.

584
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Speaker 13: Tactic if that's what he was going to do, because

585
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Speaker 13: I don't think he needed to go coach at North

586
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Speaker 13: Carolina in order to get himself an NBA job.

587
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Speaker 7: If an NBA job was there for him to get.

588
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Speaker 1: How about if you're one of his daughters, you don't

589
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Speaker 1: want dad roaming around campus.

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Speaker 13: I mean, geez, on one level, yes, you are correct,

591
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Speaker 13: I personally would not but let me tell you somewhere

592
00:28:55,200 --> 00:28:57,560
Speaker 13: Michael Malone will not want to be very much, if

593
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Speaker 13: at all, which is roaming around on the campus as

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Speaker 13: the head coach of the basketball team. I can't imagine

595
00:29:07,680 --> 00:29:12,400
Speaker 13: anything more stressful than if Mike Malone just decides to

596
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Speaker 13: go to Lenore Hall to get some Chick fil A

597
00:29:15,040 --> 00:29:17,480
Speaker 13: and then go hang out in the pit before buying

598
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Speaker 13: souvenirs at the bookstore.

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Speaker 7: I don't think that's gonna happen.

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Speaker 1: Now, who wins the title first, Michael Malone or John Shire?

601
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Speaker 1: I mean, I don't really people are starting to look

602
00:29:31,760 --> 00:29:32,760
Speaker 1: at shy are funny man?

603
00:29:32,800 --> 00:29:33,160
Speaker 2: They are?

604
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Speaker 7: They are?

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Speaker 10: They are.

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Speaker 7: I don't like to predict my own misery.

607
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Speaker 13: Like if there's if there's a benevolent god, it's Michael

608
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Speaker 13: Malone and it's like four times before John Shire ever

609
00:29:42,720 --> 00:29:43,880
Speaker 13: gets one.

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00:29:43,320 --> 00:29:45,560
Speaker 7: Yea if Michael Malone.

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Speaker 13: What I would love about this is if somewhere in

612
00:29:48,160 --> 00:29:51,920
Speaker 13: this Michael Malone decides he doesn't like John Shire because

613
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Speaker 13: he is not the type of person to hide the

614
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Speaker 13: fact that he doesn't like somebody like this. I do

615
00:29:56,880 --> 00:29:59,600
Speaker 13: think that it's worth noting this is the first time

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Speaker 13: since already the Carolina's had a coach that has like

617
00:30:02,680 --> 00:30:08,000
Speaker 13: he was a bit confrontational. Roy wasn't really confrontational. Michael

618
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Speaker 13: Malone is can it's confrontational. I mean like I'd love

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Speaker 13: to see him really lean in on the beef, like

620
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Speaker 13: I feel like in the NBA you don't really get

621
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Speaker 13: to just actively dislike people.

622
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Speaker 2: Like you're allowed to do in college.

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Speaker 1: Taylor, by the way, is uh, he's seeing movies from

624
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Speaker 1: my childhood. He just saw my cousin Vinnie. He put

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Speaker 1: it in his top ten, and he thinks Field. He

626
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Speaker 1: thinks Field of Dreams is overrated. I mean, how about

627
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Speaker 1: that over here? I mean, I'm inclined to agree on Field.

628
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Speaker 1: Jesus christ Man, you would tell her kindred spirits today?

629
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Speaker 13: I mean yeah, I mean, I'll be honest with you.

630
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Speaker 13: Like my daddy didn't die, you know what I mean.

631
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Speaker 13: It's not really relatable content, you know, in that kind

632
00:30:53,120 --> 00:30:56,160
Speaker 13: of thing. But Field the Dreams, Like my father is

633
00:30:56,200 --> 00:30:58,680
Speaker 13: eighty nine years old, right, call me back in ten

634
00:30:58,760 --> 00:31:01,800
Speaker 13: years Field Dreams, it would be like it never had before.

635
00:31:02,200 --> 00:31:04,080
Speaker 2: But in the meantime, I just.

636
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Speaker 13: Not, really, it's not really relatable content, you know what

637
00:31:07,360 --> 00:31:07,680
Speaker 13: I mean.

638
00:31:08,920 --> 00:31:11,360
Speaker 2: I mean the speech that mean no It's okay. The

639
00:31:11,400 --> 00:31:14,280
Speaker 2: speech didn't get you though. I mean, come on, James

640
00:31:14,320 --> 00:31:17,600
Speaker 2: Earl Jones, what I can't speak close.

641
00:31:17,480 --> 00:31:20,120
Speaker 13: Close close, Like I said, maybe maybe I need to

642
00:31:20,160 --> 00:31:23,680
Speaker 13: go through some more things before I'm able to you know,

643
00:31:23,760 --> 00:31:25,600
Speaker 13: they love Sauls. They be something different now that I

644
00:31:25,600 --> 00:31:27,080
Speaker 13: have lose some life, You know what I mean.

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Speaker 1: We'll get you out of here on this. Where do

646
00:31:31,360 --> 00:31:34,200
Speaker 1: you stand on on Danny Hurley? Is that a guy

647
00:31:34,240 --> 00:31:36,080
Speaker 1: who's annoying to you? Do you like him?

648
00:31:36,080 --> 00:31:37,920
Speaker 2: Where are you with Hurley? Because he kind of annoys me.

649
00:31:38,760 --> 00:31:40,760
Speaker 13: I find him annoying, and I like the fact that

650
00:31:40,800 --> 00:31:43,200
Speaker 13: I find him annoying. Same, Yes, it is the same

651
00:31:43,240 --> 00:31:45,760
Speaker 13: space that I'm in with like Kim Mulky. We need

652
00:31:45,800 --> 00:31:48,760
Speaker 13: some people out here that make you feel like something, right,

653
00:31:48,920 --> 00:31:51,960
Speaker 13: Like the worst thing to Makesrszewsky ever did the basketball

654
00:31:52,040 --> 00:31:54,280
Speaker 13: was to usher in the era of the CEO coach.

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Speaker 8: Right.

656
00:31:54,560 --> 00:31:56,080
Speaker 7: It's kind of him and pat Riley.

657
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Speaker 13: But it became a thing that the coach presents.

658
00:31:58,120 --> 00:31:59,240
Speaker 7: Himself like a businessman.

659
00:31:59,440 --> 00:31:59,640
Speaker 14: Right.

660
00:32:00,480 --> 00:32:02,640
Speaker 13: There's supposed to be some coaches out here that I

661
00:32:02,880 --> 00:32:06,360
Speaker 13: like and dislike more than others. That's what it's supposed

662
00:32:06,400 --> 00:32:10,080
Speaker 13: to be. And Danny Hurley. It's on full display, like

663
00:32:10,920 --> 00:32:13,200
Speaker 13: he's a heel, you know what I mean, Like the

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Speaker 13: game needs heels. He is a heel and seems to

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Speaker 13: recognize that he's a heel. Yes, and so yeah, no, no, no,

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Speaker 13: I'm but he I he ain't. He ain't my type.

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Speaker 2: But he's good for college basketball.

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Speaker 7: Yes, he's great for the game. He's absolutely great for

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Speaker 7: the game, no doubt.

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Speaker 6: It's kind of like how the Batman needs the Joker.

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Speaker 2: Here we go, there we go, but we ain't.

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Speaker 13: He really got no Batman, no more like that's the thing.

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Speaker 2: Who was Batman? It was coachk I mean, oh no, no,

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Speaker 2: I think.

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Speaker 7: Oh Roy's tricky.

676
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Speaker 13: I guess tom Izzo kind of gets to he's the

677
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Speaker 13: He's the og.

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Speaker 7: You're now right, he's the dean of all of this.

679
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Speaker 2: Yeah, people forget is still coaching? Still doing it? Man?

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Speaker 13: Yeah, still out there? Man, he was Okay. I don't

681
00:32:58,440 --> 00:33:00,280
Speaker 13: know his wife. I don't want to say that. I

682
00:33:00,320 --> 00:33:02,200
Speaker 13: would not still be at work if I was Hilm.

683
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Speaker 13: If I wanted to go home.

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Speaker 2: Patino's still out there.

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Speaker 13: I mean yeaheah, buddy, I mean I expect she doesn't

686
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Speaker 13: want him at home.

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Speaker 2: I suspect he wants him to die on that bench.

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Speaker 1: I suspect your rights right time with Bamani Jones anywhere

689
00:33:21,280 --> 00:33:22,200
Speaker 1: you get your podcast.

690
00:33:22,280 --> 00:33:22,880
Speaker 2: He is the best.

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Speaker 1: He's the best doing it man, Bamani. We appreciate it.

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Speaker 1: Thank you for the time. I'm upset that you and

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Speaker 1: Taylor agreed on so many things.

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Speaker 7: This is my brother. I appreciate you. I thought you

695
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Speaker 7: guys so.

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Speaker 2: All right, man, thank you.

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Speaker 4: God Bless Football and with Stu Gotson Hawkman Stue. We

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Speaker 4: missed a little bit of the show a second ago, didn't.

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Speaker 2: We did.

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Speaker 1: I have to apologize to Dan Bayer. We were supposed

711
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Speaker 1: to toss it to him for an update.

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Speaker 2: We forgot.

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00:34:12,560 --> 00:34:14,680
Speaker 1: I was crying in the hallway in is he's arms

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00:34:14,760 --> 00:34:16,680
Speaker 1: after the tom or knowlgy story?

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Speaker 12: Is that why we're playing? Ein't nobody because ain't nobody

716
00:34:19,920 --> 00:34:21,280
Speaker 12: there when we came back from break.

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Speaker 2: Now, Dan, we apologize. We're not professional. You are. I

718
00:34:24,960 --> 00:34:27,279
Speaker 2: was crying and he was consoling me.

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Speaker 7: That's all.

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Speaker 2: It's a good cry though.

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00:34:30,040 --> 00:34:32,200
Speaker 4: Dan Byer is like the quarterbacker throws it up in

722
00:34:32,200 --> 00:34:33,920
Speaker 4: the air and goes and catches his own pass.

723
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Speaker 5: Yeah, he's that professional.

724
00:34:35,640 --> 00:34:37,560
Speaker 2: Josh Allen double fantasy points. Right.

725
00:34:39,480 --> 00:34:41,440
Speaker 1: There was a softball game last night. We'll get to

726
00:34:41,480 --> 00:34:45,000
Speaker 1: that in just a second. Eryl Siegel is a gentleman

727
00:34:45,440 --> 00:34:47,520
Speaker 1: that we brought up yesterday on the show, an eighty

728
00:34:47,560 --> 00:34:50,080
Speaker 1: one year old Dodger fan. I think he's eighty one.

729
00:34:50,680 --> 00:34:53,160
Speaker 1: He wants his tickets printed. He does not want them

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00:34:53,200 --> 00:34:55,560
Speaker 1: sent digitally. He does not want to use his flip phone.

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Speaker 1: He can't find the tickets, he can't access the tickets.

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00:34:58,800 --> 00:35:01,400
Speaker 1: This man is eighty one and he simply wants his

733
00:35:01,440 --> 00:35:02,279
Speaker 1: tickets printed out.

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00:35:02,320 --> 00:35:04,640
Speaker 5: You're saying there's an update, Well, there is an update.

735
00:35:04,680 --> 00:35:06,520
Speaker 1: I have a guest on who is ready to get

736
00:35:06,560 --> 00:35:10,919
Speaker 1: behind old Eryl Siegel and try to help him out.

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00:35:11,080 --> 00:35:13,480
Speaker 1: And he's going to join us tomorrow, and that is

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Speaker 1: Carl Douglas. Famed attorney Carl Douglas, who was also a

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00:35:17,320 --> 00:35:20,760
Speaker 1: celebrity Dodger fan. Mikey A knows him very very well.

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00:35:21,120 --> 00:35:24,439
Speaker 1: He wants to help mister siegeal out and he says

741
00:35:24,480 --> 00:35:26,399
Speaker 1: there might be a lawsuit. He's not certain yet.

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Speaker 4: I don't have to tell me about Carl Douglas. George

743
00:35:28,640 --> 00:35:30,719
Speaker 4: Sadana and I were the first people to get Carl

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00:35:30,760 --> 00:35:33,600
Speaker 4: Douglas on the air regularly when they had that OJ

745
00:35:33,800 --> 00:35:36,240
Speaker 4: show on I think it was FX, and we would

746
00:35:36,239 --> 00:35:38,960
Speaker 4: constantly have him on every week, and then everybody stole

747
00:35:38,960 --> 00:35:40,240
Speaker 4: our idea, including you guys.

748
00:35:40,520 --> 00:35:42,759
Speaker 1: Yes, he was a member of the Dream Team, not

749
00:35:42,880 --> 00:35:46,799
Speaker 1: the basketball team. OJ's defense team, along with f Lee

750
00:35:46,840 --> 00:35:49,600
Speaker 1: Bailey and I can't remember Johnny Cochrane.

751
00:35:49,680 --> 00:35:50,839
Speaker 2: Well, how do I remember this?

752
00:35:51,520 --> 00:35:53,560
Speaker 1: Because it was the biggest story of my life, Trial

753
00:35:53,600 --> 00:35:54,640
Speaker 1: of the century, that's why.

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00:35:55,200 --> 00:35:55,759
Speaker 2: That's right.

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00:35:56,160 --> 00:36:00,400
Speaker 1: So Carl Douglas, who loves the Dodgers, is going to

756
00:36:00,440 --> 00:36:02,799
Speaker 1: join us tomorrow, and it'd be great if we can

757
00:36:02,800 --> 00:36:06,719
Speaker 1: get Eryl Siegel on with Carl Douglas. Taylor asked me,

758
00:36:06,800 --> 00:36:09,560
Speaker 1: how would you go about getting Eryl seagull on? He

759
00:36:09,680 --> 00:36:12,360
Speaker 1: asked me and Mikey a earlier, and I said, the

760
00:36:12,440 --> 00:36:14,920
Speaker 1: yellow pages or the white pages, And He's like, what

761
00:36:14,960 --> 00:36:15,800
Speaker 1: are you talking about?

762
00:36:15,840 --> 00:36:19,320
Speaker 2: And I go listen. When you're Eryl Siegel, you demand

763
00:36:19,440 --> 00:36:20,760
Speaker 2: to be in the phone book.

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Speaker 10: You do.

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00:36:21,400 --> 00:36:24,000
Speaker 1: If you're left out, your outraged. So, Taylor, I think

766
00:36:24,040 --> 00:36:26,080
Speaker 1: my gia sent a number. Have you reached out to

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00:36:26,280 --> 00:36:27,200
Speaker 1: mister Siegel yet?

768
00:36:27,560 --> 00:36:27,759
Speaker 8: Yeah?

769
00:36:27,800 --> 00:36:28,520
Speaker 6: I haven't heard back.

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00:36:29,880 --> 00:36:31,919
Speaker 5: It might take a minute. He might send you a letter.

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00:36:32,080 --> 00:36:35,680
Speaker 2: Right, was there a voicemail? I mean anything, No, just

772
00:36:35,760 --> 00:36:36,280
Speaker 2: kept ringing.

773
00:36:38,320 --> 00:36:40,960
Speaker 5: He's probably still looking thir his bone. I hear it somewhere.

774
00:36:42,560 --> 00:36:44,640
Speaker 2: He doesn't even have a tape answering machine.

775
00:36:44,880 --> 00:36:47,319
Speaker 1: Yes, So I told Carl to round up all the

776
00:36:47,320 --> 00:36:50,120
Speaker 1: Dodger celebrity fans. Him and Pat say Jack, and I said,

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00:36:50,160 --> 00:36:53,240
Speaker 1: let's go. Let's get these guys is tickets printed, because

778
00:36:53,280 --> 00:36:55,279
Speaker 1: that's the way you want them, and you should have it.

779
00:36:55,600 --> 00:36:57,799
Speaker 2: He should have it his way. He's the customer. I mean,

780
00:36:57,800 --> 00:36:58,319
Speaker 2: how about that.

781
00:36:59,239 --> 00:37:01,400
Speaker 1: By the way, since I said Otani was overrated, he

782
00:37:01,480 --> 00:37:02,800
Speaker 1: has hit seventy home runs.

783
00:37:04,360 --> 00:37:06,520
Speaker 4: That's all right, since I said the Atlanta Hawks were

784
00:37:06,560 --> 00:37:08,880
Speaker 4: on a what did I call it? I said, the

785
00:37:08,920 --> 00:37:11,560
Speaker 4: emptiest nine game winning streak in NBA history. Yeah, I

786
00:37:11,560 --> 00:37:13,239
Speaker 4: think I've only lost one or twice since then.

787
00:37:13,719 --> 00:37:16,000
Speaker 1: So, Taylor, tell me about the softball game last night.

788
00:37:16,040 --> 00:37:17,960
Speaker 1: You and Izzy, you are on a softball team together.

789
00:37:18,160 --> 00:37:22,000
Speaker 1: Is he doesn't want to be there. You also participate

790
00:37:22,040 --> 00:37:24,360
Speaker 1: in a flag football league together. You don't want to

791
00:37:24,400 --> 00:37:27,239
Speaker 1: be there? And so tell me how the softball game

792
00:37:27,280 --> 00:37:28,600
Speaker 1: went last night? You're winless?

793
00:37:28,800 --> 00:37:31,799
Speaker 6: Yeah, so roommate Ian has kind of been the star

794
00:37:31,920 --> 00:37:34,399
Speaker 6: of this team, or the the person that people want

795
00:37:34,440 --> 00:37:36,880
Speaker 6: to hear about the most. Yes, and just the reminder

796
00:37:37,080 --> 00:37:40,560
Speaker 6: he's Jewish. But he wore a Dominican Republic hat to

797
00:37:40,640 --> 00:37:41,239
Speaker 6: the first game.

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00:37:41,680 --> 00:37:42,360
Speaker 2: How could I forget?

799
00:37:42,400 --> 00:37:45,000
Speaker 6: It's very odd he showed up to the game yesterday,

800
00:37:45,600 --> 00:37:48,160
Speaker 6: no Dominican Republic hat. He had a Miami Open hat on.

801
00:37:48,239 --> 00:37:50,720
Speaker 6: And when I asked him, no DR hat, he said,

802
00:37:51,200 --> 00:37:52,000
Speaker 6: I have to earn it.

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00:37:53,560 --> 00:37:55,960
Speaker 4: I thought, you're gonna say he has to burn it,

804
00:37:56,080 --> 00:37:58,200
Speaker 4: because I would have burned that hat after that performance.

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00:37:58,320 --> 00:38:00,719
Speaker 1: Wait, so Ian was the guy who he committed like

806
00:38:00,760 --> 00:38:03,120
Speaker 1: six errors in the first game in left field and

807
00:38:03,160 --> 00:38:04,799
Speaker 1: then we switched him to centerfield, and then the ball

808
00:38:04,800 --> 00:38:05,719
Speaker 1: found him in centerfield.

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00:38:06,080 --> 00:38:10,200
Speaker 6: Yesterday we moved him to first base and he looked

810
00:38:10,239 --> 00:38:13,200
Speaker 6: like a gold glover at first base. Really, so we

811
00:38:13,560 --> 00:38:16,399
Speaker 6: shuffled around some positions. Now we still lost the game.

812
00:38:16,760 --> 00:38:18,920
Speaker 6: We lost by five and five innings. We didn't get

813
00:38:19,000 --> 00:38:22,200
Speaker 6: run rulled. We were up one through three innings. Wow,

814
00:38:22,480 --> 00:38:25,080
Speaker 6: we lost the games due in the fourth inning. A

815
00:38:25,120 --> 00:38:27,879
Speaker 6: week part of our lineup came up. They went one, two, three,

816
00:38:28,000 --> 00:38:31,439
Speaker 6: They struck out the side, They struck out slow, pitched

817
00:38:31,440 --> 00:38:31,839
Speaker 6: off all.

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00:38:31,760 --> 00:38:33,200
Speaker 2: The first time. That's never happened.

819
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Speaker 4: I mean, I just want to add I was none

820
00:38:37,000 --> 00:38:39,040
Speaker 4: of those three people who's struck out.

821
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Speaker 2: Well, hold on, we'll get to you. How did it

822
00:38:40,520 --> 00:38:42,840
Speaker 2: is he play? Taylor? Tell us? Tell us about is

823
00:38:42,920 --> 00:38:43,160
Speaker 2: he is not?

824
00:38:43,239 --> 00:38:45,759
Speaker 1: Because he said yesterday he's never gotten a hit and

825
00:38:45,800 --> 00:38:47,880
Speaker 1: he's never slid into a base, So what happened?

826
00:38:48,040 --> 00:38:48,759
Speaker 2: So is he no?

827
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Speaker 6: Showed what?

828
00:38:51,320 --> 00:38:53,160
Speaker 2: And some people sides?

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00:38:53,400 --> 00:38:56,000
Speaker 6: Some people is he are pointing out the way that

830
00:38:56,040 --> 00:38:59,160
Speaker 6: we played so much better, coinciding with the fact that

831
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Speaker 6: you didn't show up. And there's some dots being connected

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00:39:02,920 --> 00:39:06,960
Speaker 6: a lot, because yesterday, if this was a movie, this

833
00:39:07,160 --> 00:39:09,239
Speaker 6: was when the bad news bears start to get a

834
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Speaker 6: little good. That's where we're at right now on the plot.

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Speaker 4: I don't want to take too much credit, but yes,

836
00:39:15,480 --> 00:39:17,719
Speaker 4: as I was preparing for the day, I'm looking at

837
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Speaker 4: the list of people who are going to show, and

838
00:39:19,480 --> 00:39:21,840
Speaker 4: I'm doing the math, and I'm like, I'm.

839
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Speaker 5: The eleventh person, right, we only need ten? Right, they

840
00:39:25,760 --> 00:39:26,480
Speaker 5: don't need me?

841
00:39:26,800 --> 00:39:29,600
Speaker 4: Well, why would they need somebody who has never gotten

842
00:39:29,600 --> 00:39:32,239
Speaker 4: a hit in his life into attempts? Why would they

843
00:39:32,280 --> 00:39:35,239
Speaker 4: need somebody who has never slid into anything in his life?

844
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Speaker 5: So I was like, you know what, my tummy's feeling

845
00:39:38,040 --> 00:39:39,040
Speaker 5: a little off right here.

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Speaker 4: I'm gonna go ahead and take the day off. Anthony,

847
00:39:41,719 --> 00:39:43,160
Speaker 4: You go ahead win one for me.

848
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Speaker 1: I know you're oh for two, but you're also one

849
00:39:45,040 --> 00:39:47,960
Speaker 1: hit away from being a Hall of Fame, which is.

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Speaker 5: Why I'm picking my spots.

851
00:39:49,239 --> 00:39:51,200
Speaker 4: I can't go ahead and when I'm not feeling great

852
00:39:51,440 --> 00:39:53,840
Speaker 4: and then potentially go for three and then ruin my

853
00:39:54,239 --> 00:39:55,160
Speaker 4: career average.

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00:39:56,000 --> 00:39:58,920
Speaker 6: So you've played six innings in this whole thing, and

855
00:39:59,080 --> 00:40:00,920
Speaker 6: is he's been apps for five of them.

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00:40:03,080 --> 00:40:03,680
Speaker 2: That's a good point.

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00:40:03,719 --> 00:40:06,879
Speaker 6: We've probably played nine innings and is he's been absent.

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00:40:06,600 --> 00:40:07,560
Speaker 2: For for six of them.

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00:40:07,880 --> 00:40:08,600
Speaker 5: You're welcome.

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00:40:08,840 --> 00:40:11,840
Speaker 6: We also have the kids to who only hits home runs.

861
00:40:11,960 --> 00:40:14,800
Speaker 6: He's hit like six home runs in two games. Yesterday,

862
00:40:14,880 --> 00:40:16,839
Speaker 6: after he went two for two with two home runs,

863
00:40:17,040 --> 00:40:18,920
Speaker 6: they intentionally walked him in this office.

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Speaker 2: Get that done.

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00:40:21,040 --> 00:40:24,920
Speaker 1: He's that lethal bus. So are you saying that your

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00:40:24,960 --> 00:40:26,120
Speaker 1: team is better without is he?

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Speaker 6: I I'm not saying that other people are