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Speaker 1: My name is Dan Hansus, and I'm joined by room
Speaker 1: filled with some heroes. Mark Sessler to my left, Gregg
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Speaker 1: called it, well, I'll listen to your flagship show tomorrow.
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Speaker 1: What is that silver believe it may even be more
Speaker 1: than that ative. You gotta plug in on this one, Greggy.
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Speaker 1: get back on script because that's why it's the Sunday
Speaker 1: Flagship Show. Because we talked about every game that occurred
Speaker 1: on Sunday in this week one UH from the early
Speaker 1: kickoff straight through Sunday Night football, the Giants and the
Speaker 1: Cowboys in Jaral World, and it was it was a
Speaker 1: week one j M in UH where there were some
Speaker 1: surprises there always are, but also maybe not as not
Speaker 1: as much sizzle. Maybe I was expecting some fireworks, some
Speaker 1: crazy things happening. There was things to learn, but it
Speaker 1: wasn't blown away. Let's put it that way. I felt
Speaker 1: that way. But I also would point to the fact
Speaker 1: that we have to Monday night games that look enticing
Speaker 1: in these weeks when they start a little slow, usually
Speaker 1: round out with a lot of drama. League. Well, it
Speaker 1: was the most one score games in NFL history last year,
Speaker 1: and there were only out of the early games, you know,
Speaker 1: before the Sunday night game, only three one score games,
Speaker 1: so they weren't a lot of close finishes as you mentioned. Alright,
Speaker 1: so we got so much to get to we should
Speaker 1: just do it. Um So. Erica, by the way, welcome
Speaker 1: to your first flagship program any butterflies. Sure, couple, Erica
Speaker 1: is still dead inside after Thursday Night's results. He's I'm
Speaker 1: doing I like that. I find out if you get
Speaker 1: snarky with her on Twitter about the Patriots, she will
Speaker 1: come right back at you with fire. Alright, Erica, let's
Speaker 1: get in to the action. Another season's here. There's glory
Speaker 1: in the legends of this hard muscle life, and there's
Speaker 1: poetry in each season made of sweat and strife, winds,
Speaker 1: whisper of high hopes, victory, is in the skies. A
Speaker 1: season awaits with glory in her eyes. One joins with
Speaker 1: many on summer's green field. Time to strive, to dare
Speaker 1: for all not to yield. Now that doesn't get too excited,
Speaker 1: slightly over dramatic, but I'll accept it. Let's settle down
Speaker 1: just a little bit, sir again, faced in the ground,
Speaker 1: cannot defend himself. Well, beautiful work by John Paci and
Speaker 1: Sam Spence, of course, with the music, classic stuff. All right, Okay,
Speaker 1: we can get rid of it as much as I
Speaker 1: respect it. Like Mark, it has its time. All right,
Speaker 1: Let's get into it, and we'll start with a game
Speaker 1: at lambeau Field, pitting two NFC superpowers against each other
Speaker 1: once more. Now the Packers in the catchain with two
Speaker 1: many guys in the field, Rogers takes the snap. The
Speaker 1: flag does come in, so Rogers has a free shirt
Speaker 1: and he flows it over the middle and took plates
Speaker 1: into the end zone. Touch Shorty Nelson a thirty two
Speaker 1: yards strike touchdown Green Bay. Aaron Rodgers third quarter touchdown
Speaker 1: hook up with Jordy Nelson gave the Packers some breathing room,
Speaker 1: and Green Bay swarming defense did the rest. A seventeen
Speaker 1: to nine win over the Seattle Seahawks. Uh, guys, this
Speaker 1: is a game that could have huge playoff ramifications down
Speaker 1: the line, and appropriately it had that feel of January football. Uh.
Speaker 1: Two great teams going at it um. The defenses certainly
Speaker 1: seemed like they were ahead of the offenses in this game.
Speaker 1: Maybe if this game was played a couple of months
Speaker 1: from now, it would be a little different the feel
Speaker 1: of it. But this was about defense. But at the end,
Speaker 1: at the end of the day, Aaron Rodgers made the
Speaker 1: plays he needed and that's now three straight wins for
Speaker 1: Rogers over the Seahawks in as many years. Greg, what
Speaker 1: were your take ways from this game? A really good game,
Speaker 1: maybe not a classic, but a nice game to start
Speaker 1: the season. That the last time we saw the Packers defense,
Speaker 1: they were getting filled in back to back playoff performances
Speaker 1: and they worked hard to shore up that secondary. But
Speaker 1: it was really the front seven and the last two
Speaker 1: guys that got big time extensions from the Packers. Mike
Speaker 1: Daniels and Nick Perry were dominating this game. I think
Speaker 1: Connor Or put in our right up and and I
Speaker 1: totally agree Mike Daniels deserves the game ball. I mean,
Speaker 1: he wrecked this Seattle offensive line, But you have to
Speaker 1: wonder about who was on the other side of the field.
Speaker 1: After hearing NonStop about what the Seahawks offensive line is
Speaker 1: gonna do all offseason, they had a worst case scenario
Speaker 1: performance and really didn't give their team a chance to win.
Speaker 1: I come out of this concerned for Seattle because the
Speaker 1: offensive line has been an issue forever and it held
Speaker 1: them back last year, and it also it curtailed Russell
Speaker 1: Wilson's season in terms of his health. Though Seattle year
Speaker 1: after year seems to figure themselves out on offense about
Speaker 1: a month into the season, if not later, sometimes completely
Speaker 1: shifting their identity by mid mid years. It's some it's
Speaker 1: some cases. So do we really take away from this
Speaker 1: anything other than it's a it's a rugged, rugged loss
Speaker 1: on the road for a team that we trust to
Speaker 1: bounce back. I don't put too much into the loss.
Speaker 1: It was hard fought and they just came out out
Speaker 1: on the losing end. Three years ago, um, I believe
Speaker 1: it was three years ago. I was in Seattle for
Speaker 1: their kickoff game against the Packers, and that was in
Speaker 1: a Century Link field and it was the same type
Speaker 1: of vibe where it's like it's kind of like your
Speaker 1: a little torn because it's a great game to start
Speaker 1: the season, and that was the first game of the
Speaker 1: game season period on Thursday night. But at the same time,
Speaker 1: these two teams, if they finished tied now at top
Speaker 1: the standings in terms of one loss in the NFC,
Speaker 1: the an NFC title game could be in lambeau Field,
Speaker 1: and they and now the Seattle Seahawks have to actually
Speaker 1: finish ahead of them by a full game in the
Speaker 1: standings to to finish out ahead in a tiebreaker scenario.
Speaker 1: You almost wish this game is a little deeper in
Speaker 1: the season when the teams are a little more worked out,
Speaker 1: because it has so much on the line. It does,
Speaker 1: But the Seahawks are a team, as Mark mentioned, that
Speaker 1: tries to figure things out. This isn't just a bad
Speaker 1: offensive performance. I mean they had about twenty five yards
Speaker 1: through their first five drives. I mean they couldn't five
Speaker 1: punst open the game right, They couldn't operate an offense
Speaker 1: at all. I think the better team ended up winning,
Speaker 1: even though it was close in the score. The Packers
Speaker 1: were doubling them up in terms of yard yardage. I
Speaker 1: think the Packers had to be a little worried about
Speaker 1: their offensive line. But the good news for them is
Speaker 1: David back tr who is very noticeable by his absence.
Speaker 1: You know, we'll be back. He'll he'll help shore up
Speaker 1: that line. I think the fact that the Packers could
Speaker 1: move the ball when they absolutely needed to late in
Speaker 1: the game and have some sustained drives, they have to
Speaker 1: feel really good that they can win these types of games.
Speaker 1: I wonder, you know, one of the questions for Seattle
Speaker 1: they didn't have Thomas Rowles this week was how the
Speaker 1: backfield would shake out, And it looks to me like
Speaker 1: Eddie Lacey does not have a major role on this
Speaker 1: team at all. He should have had. If he doesn't
Speaker 1: have made role in this game, it makes you wonder
Speaker 1: how high they really are. Chris Carson, the rookie, is
Speaker 1: getting more action than him. Russell Wilson leads the team
Speaker 1: in rushing today. Right right. Thomas Rawls was inactive for
Speaker 1: this game. We didn't know that going into it, and
Speaker 1: I do believe that Chris Carson ended up getting more
Speaker 1: snaps than Lacey. Lacey had seven snaps in this game,
Speaker 1: and we didn't hear that he was hurt. Maybe maybe
Speaker 1: something else will come out, but that that's troubling. So
Speaker 1: you have a couple of things working against you. If
Speaker 1: you're Russell Wilson, now you have no protection and you
Speaker 1: are figuring out the running game as you go. Maybe
Speaker 1: the Packers defense is better than we think. They'd certainly
Speaker 1: have talented players up front, but that that's a tough
Speaker 1: way to start. All right, boys, let's move on. Gonna
Speaker 1: throw it for the answer town Preaders Seth Roberts popped
Speaker 1: in right away. Is they quick snapped them, came back
Speaker 1: up on the ball and Seth Roberts doesn't again in
Speaker 1: Music City and they ran four verticals that time. Partner,
Speaker 1: you watch all the receivers going out, not waiting on
Speaker 1: the backside. Throw Seth Roberts right on the second level
Speaker 1: beats the Tennessee Titans before a touchdown. Now, I'm not
Speaker 1: saying that is worthy of a top ten calls the seen.
Speaker 1: Far from it, I would hope. But Erica Louis Cannon,
Speaker 1: you're new to the show. Uh, we got at tractees. Whatever,
Speaker 1: great calls from the We like going with the radio
Speaker 1: calls because we like the local guys. Some of them
Speaker 1: are literally insane people, and we lean on that insanity
Speaker 1: and we thrive on it as a clip that was
Speaker 1: not a top ten clip, but that Raiders call that spice.
Speaker 1: That's Papa, his best Papa being Papa, I pop be
Speaker 1: Derek Carr through two touchdowns, including the go ahead score
Speaker 1: you heard to Seth Roberts as the Oakland Raiders went
Speaker 1: on the road to beat the Tennessee Titoons You heard
Speaker 1: meteen in Nashville, Greg. This felt like an opportunity for
Speaker 1: the Titans to announce themselves as an a f C
Speaker 1: power player, but the Raiders instead gave everyone m under
Speaker 1: that they're already in the club. They they are, and
Speaker 1: they're a year ahead of the Titans in their development.
Speaker 1: And I thought this was a really well played game.
Speaker 1: Some sloppy performances around Week one, a lot of people complaining,
Speaker 1: go go watch. This game wasn't a barn burner at
Speaker 1: the end because the Raiders were too good and they
Speaker 1: put it away. But these were two really good teams,
Speaker 1: very evenly matched. But the differences the Raiders have been
Speaker 1: there and these are This is kind of the win
Speaker 1: we were looking for last year. A lot of times
Speaker 1: where the Raiders didn't convincingly win. It felt like they
Speaker 1: got a little lucky. This was complete and the two
Speaker 1: guys that they added on offense, Marshawn Lynch and Jared Cook,
Speaker 1: could make a huge difference. This was already a great offense,
Speaker 1: and they upgraded at two positions of need. I thought
Speaker 1: Marshawn Lynch looked fantastic. I was gonna say, does he
Speaker 1: look like Marshall Lynch of two thousand, let's say fourteen? Yes,
Speaker 1: the numbers didn't pop off in terms of the box score.
Speaker 1: I think he got almost a hundred yards from scrimmage,
Speaker 1: so very solid. But he's breaking tackles. He got a
Speaker 1: fourth in short near the goal line where most running
Speaker 1: backs would have been taken out. He ran over Darrell Casey,
Speaker 1: who's three hundred and five pounds, and just knocked him
Speaker 1: back on a totally different play. I thought he looked great.
Speaker 1: He's the guy Seattle could have used today because he
Speaker 1: looked to me, it's a great points like the youthful
Speaker 1: runner of four or five years ago, not just the
Speaker 1: guy from two seasons ago in Seattle, and they tried
Speaker 1: to give him some rest. He he you know, was
Speaker 1: out every third month five or so. They used DeAndre
Speaker 1: Washington and Jalen re Shard a lot, and yet at
Speaker 1: the end when they needed to close the game out,
Speaker 1: they went with Lynch and they killed the clock and
Speaker 1: they basically turned a really good game into a sleeper
Speaker 1: just because they held onto the ball. And you know,
Speaker 1: I kind of kid, but I'm serious. You know, Tennessee,
Speaker 1: it was. It was a whole off season. There's so
Speaker 1: much football to play. Obviously, I'm not saying now the
Speaker 1: Titans are done or something, but you know, you're at
Speaker 1: home and you're starting a season and it's been talked
Speaker 1: up a lot that they're now ready to make this
Speaker 1: big play and then you let big brother come in
Speaker 1: and take care of business. It's disappointing. You have to
Speaker 1: be this point is the Titans. I am annoyed because
Speaker 1: I thought the Tennessee would see this as a comprehensive
Speaker 1: statement game I forgot about. Yeah, this one. I locked
Speaker 1: this up. I would say that I locked it up.
Speaker 1: You know, you could not do less of a of
Speaker 1: a positive job out of the gate in Week one
Speaker 1: then to latch onto a team that ran into a buzz. So,
Speaker 1: I mean, listen, the one thing you could say about
Speaker 1: Tennessee is they're not going to meet the Raiders every week.
Speaker 1: The dead bolt did not turn. It did not turn.
Speaker 1: There were a lot of positives. Corey Davis was out
Speaker 1: there look good. Overall. I think they were fine. Who
Speaker 1: they got next week? I put you guys on the
Speaker 1: spot as I can find that out in one second. Baby,
Speaker 1: you gotta win a ball game next week. Next week.
Speaker 1: The Patriots. No, I'm kidding. They do not have the Patriots.
Speaker 1: They had, well, they have the Jacksonville Jaguars. Then after
Speaker 1: that they had the Seahawks and the Texans, and I know,
Speaker 1: I know, we gotta move on. But one last thing,
Speaker 1: my you know, one game ball today goes to Georgio
Speaker 1: to Vecchio, the new Raiders kicker. Get excited. The first
Speaker 1: Italian born player in the NFL and more than forty
Speaker 1: years he put the opening kickoff through of the uprights.
Speaker 1: You don't see that too often. He hit to fifty yarders,
Speaker 1: first time in NFL history a rookie kicker ever did that.
Speaker 1: There has been a lot of an understated anti Sea
Speaker 1: Bass sentiment coming from Greg and I think it's because
Speaker 1: he's the last player from that Tom Brady draft class
Speaker 1: and Greg wants zero competition. He wants him out of there,
Speaker 1: telling you this kid was booming it all right. Well, see,
Speaker 1: Bass will probably not be coming back this year. But Greg,
Speaker 1: I thought that game ball was gonna go to Tony Romo.
Speaker 1: I thought you were that. I forgot about that. Maybe
Speaker 1: we'll save it for Tuesday, But you were very happy
Speaker 1: with Tony Romo is already one of, if not the
Speaker 1: top color analysts, and business loved him. Look at that.
Speaker 1: I can't wait to watch this game and I'll see
Speaker 1: if I concur with you or violently disagree. Let's keep moving.
Speaker 1: Could be the last player of the game. Fourth and
Speaker 1: goal four on the play talks Napthter Glennon he'll step
Speaker 1: up in trouble. Brooks Rate sucks him, brooks Read gets
Speaker 1: another suck, and Atlanta is going to win for the
Speaker 1: first time since nineteen eight three. Soldier Field, the Falcons
Speaker 1: got the type of stop they could not manage at
Speaker 1: the end of Super Bowl fifty one, and Matt Ryan
Speaker 1: led to fourth quarters scoring drives. The result seen road
Speaker 1: win over the Chicago Bears. A Soldier Field Mark Sessler.
Speaker 1: This was not easy, but the Falcons found a way
Speaker 1: to finish but in just a little more distance between
Speaker 1: themselves and the events of the first Sunday in February,
Speaker 1: they did and an uncomfortable and uh, you know, I'd
Speaker 1: say disturbing finish for Bears fans. You have first and
Speaker 1: goal at the Falcons five, and you've hung in a
Speaker 1: game that many people thought would have equated to a
Speaker 1: massive slaughter in week one, and quite the opposite. They
Speaker 1: hung around. You've got three shots at the end zone,
Speaker 1: three straight in completions, and it was not on Mike Glenn.
Speaker 1: And this final chance here is wide outs and that's,
Speaker 1: you know, an area of weakness for the for the
Speaker 1: Bears could not get the job done. They had their
Speaker 1: hands on these passes and dropped them. Mark knows it.
Speaker 1: I know it as a Jets fan. The difference between
Speaker 1: good teams, average teams, and bad teams is that idiot
Speaker 1: either any little bit of playmaking ability when it really counts,
Speaker 1: And they could have easily scored twice, maybe even three
Speaker 1: times in that final drive and nobody can make a
Speaker 1: play when it counted, and and and the end, end game,
Speaker 1: Greg is the Falcons get a little bit lucky. Let's
Speaker 1: be honest, if if somebody steps up and makes a play.
Speaker 1: You're staring at a dreadful three loss and a week
Speaker 1: of being told or the Falcons, you know, do they
Speaker 1: have something wrong with them emotionally? You can't close that. Instead,
Speaker 1: they get to not worry about that and keep moving
Speaker 1: at one and oh, well, we've said we expect their
Speaker 1: offense to come back to the pack and they have
Speaker 1: three seventy yards. I think it gives some credit to
Speaker 1: the Bears defense, who's gonna which is gonna be better
Speaker 1: than we expect. But these were games last year that
Speaker 1: they won a little easier, I think last year. And
Speaker 1: there are always these teams that they suddenly just completely
Speaker 1: hit and find their groove and move into this sort
Speaker 1: of the shift in this unstoppable mode. And you can't
Speaker 1: ask Atlanta to do that year after year. They're not
Speaker 1: that team. They look more like the Falcons of a
Speaker 1: fle of years ago. And what do we see from
Speaker 1: Mike Lennon? I thought Glennan, like, listen, they they what
Speaker 1: they have. What they have in their arsenal is a
Speaker 1: fascinating pair of running backs in Jordan Howard and the
Speaker 1: rookie Tariko, And I guess electric today was absolutely electric.
Speaker 1: Mike Lennon is hindered by the fact that they have
Speaker 1: no weapons for him to throw do. But he was
Speaker 1: not a disaster today. It was not the Glennon that
Speaker 1: we would have put into a game script where suddenly
Speaker 1: they're gonna be calling for his job. This was not
Speaker 1: on him alone. Like it's it's good and bad news
Speaker 1: that Tarik Cohen is your leading receiver and you're leading rusher.
Speaker 1: I think they found something, but it's it's also you
Speaker 1: want more playmakers. Kevin White, who was a top ten pick,
Speaker 1: is gonna miss the rest of the season well, and
Speaker 1: you have to wonder what his career leads to after that.
Speaker 1: That's at least the expectation. They believe he suffered a
Speaker 1: broken collar bone. According to our NFL Network insider uh
Speaker 1: Ian Rappaport, he's played five career games and they're gonna
Speaker 1: be starting, you know, Josh Balamy and Deontay tom Sin
Speaker 1: and Kendall Right, that's tough. Do you like their defense?
Speaker 1: I think Chicago Cal could win off, you know, win
Speaker 1: six seven games this season to do and I listen,
Speaker 1: if you or every show listener of the Around the
Speaker 1: NFL podcast, you could have Torecon on your roster right now.
Speaker 1: We told you be on the lookout for this guy,
Speaker 1: and he went over a hundred toty yards. He's a
Speaker 1: nice little weapon for him. Let's see if they can
Speaker 1: build off that, because that gives him a nice little
Speaker 1: tandem back there. But no win on Sunday. Let's keep
Speaker 1: moving Stafford up under center, single back as a mirror.
Speaker 1: Matthews got it, fakes to get through a mirror, sets
Speaker 1: deep in the pocket, wants to throw keep down, want
Speaker 1: call a day inside the table. Died give me back
Speaker 1: the cats? He did? You are sucking tops down the
Speaker 1: drugs like that podcasts on the Connection. Holy Smoky laid
Speaker 1: out to make the Cats something else and you got
Speaker 1: the take. Just got down on his hands to me.
Speaker 1: Were not serving Matthew Stafford through four touchdown passes, including
Speaker 1: two fourth quarter hook ups with Kenny Golladay. Wow, And
Speaker 1: they were excited on the radio about Kenston leading the
Speaker 1: Detroit Lines to a comeback win over the Arizona Cardinals.
Speaker 1: And now we welcome in Nick Shook. Brain's end body,
Speaker 1: Nick Shook, as always who gave this game is undivided attention. Nick.
Speaker 1: We'll get to Detroit in a second. But this felt
Speaker 1: like a worst case scenario Sunday for Bruce Arians. David
Speaker 1: Johnson gets hurt and we don't know how serious it is,
Speaker 1: but it doesn't seem slight. And Carson Palmer played like
Speaker 1: an old man. Yeah, it was kind of a a
Speaker 1: little bit of a disaster scenario, especially in the second
Speaker 1: half of the Cardinals, because in the first half, you know,
Speaker 1: they had a little bit of an early lead. Things
Speaker 1: weren't necessarily off the rails yet. But Carson Palmer throw
Speaker 1: us three interceptions and you you suffer injuries and multiple
Speaker 1: areas and and and and then you end up blowing
Speaker 1: a lead that you had on the road. I mean,
Speaker 1: for a while it looked like the Cardinals were in
Speaker 1: control and it all fell apart pretty quickly. Twenty points
Speaker 1: given up in the final period. And you yeah, I
Speaker 1: was watching this game. I wasn't like totally plugged in on,
Speaker 1: but I was checking into the second half because it
Speaker 1: was a tight game, uh near the end, and then
Speaker 1: the Lions pulled away. But Palmer and maybe had this
Speaker 1: last year when he's playing well as well, but he
Speaker 1: kind of had that late period. Marino looked to him
Speaker 1: where he just wasn't fluid in his movements, and then
Speaker 1: when you you throw the turnovers and there, all of
Speaker 1: a sudden, it just looks like you're watching a guy
Speaker 1: that maybe maybe somebody to really be concerned about. Some
Speaker 1: everyone gets one bad week and week one you don't
Speaker 1: make too much of it, but I'm definitely like my
Speaker 1: radar would be up as a Cardinals fan another year later.
Speaker 1: He's kind of looked like that for a little bit
Speaker 1: of a while now, and and it's not really encouraging
Speaker 1: to see him start the season still kind of looking
Speaker 1: like that. Uh. One of those interceptions wasn't as fall
Speaker 1: as a tip ball. Uh, but overall not not not
Speaker 1: you're right, you're the late period Marina thing spot on,
Speaker 1: especially uh Detroit taking the turnover battle four to one.
Speaker 1: Major turnaround for the Lions as well. When to give
Speaker 1: their defense a little credit, it wasn't expecting much out
Speaker 1: of their defense going into the season in general, like
Speaker 1: how did how did they look? No, I think I
Speaker 1: think when we talked about the preview, uh, you know,
Speaker 1: a couple of weeks ago, that's what we were worried
Speaker 1: about with them, was what they were They're supposed to
Speaker 1: take a step back because they're they're injured, they're they're thin,
Speaker 1: you know, and so on and so forth. But they
Speaker 1: they looked pretty good, especially when they needed it. And
Speaker 1: I don't know if that's so much a reflection of
Speaker 1: Arizona not necessarily hitting on all cylinders and talking about
Speaker 1: you know, Palmer not really looking the best, or if
Speaker 1: maybe they're going to surprise some people. They definitely forced
Speaker 1: the stops and turnovers they needed in the second half
Speaker 1: to fuel that comeback, which then again was on the
Speaker 1: arm of Matt Stafford, who that took about the tail
Speaker 1: of two half. The first half didn't look like, you know,
Speaker 1: Matt Stafford didn't look like the highest paid quarterback in
Speaker 1: the NFL by a long shot. And then turns around
Speaker 1: and leads a few drives in the second half, hooking
Speaker 1: up with Kenny Golladay. He's found another receiver that he
Speaker 1: might be able to rely on important. I mean, Dan,
Speaker 1: maybe an argument, uh to start the preseason, to start
Speaker 1: preparation for the for the campaign much later the way
Speaker 1: Detroit to essentially, I mean, it was a good point
Speaker 1: by me, Gregg that it wasn't quite that good of
Speaker 1: a point. Greg's loudness in his laughter, I forgot what
Speaker 1: you said. You were saying, oh, so Detroit taking you know. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I mean they essentially said, listen, every thirty one, other
Speaker 1: teams get to work. We're gonna do things on our
Speaker 1: own clock. And then you come out and you stamp
Speaker 1: the Cardinals in week one. I wouldn't maybe they were
Speaker 1: maybe pro senioritis, but also like there's also narratives all
Speaker 1: over the place. Last year when Carson Palmer was struggling,
Speaker 1: it was because he was throwing too much. He managed
Speaker 1: that and now it's still didn't work out. I don't
Speaker 1: know it's about Carson Palmer. I think if you were
Speaker 1: ranking who had the most concerning, depressing, whatever you want
Speaker 1: to call it, week one, the Cardinals have to be
Speaker 1: at or near the top of the list to have
Speaker 1: a loss like this and then to lose David Johnson
Speaker 1: for what's reported to be either weeks or up to
Speaker 1: half a season at this point because of the rist
Speaker 1: and by the way, David Johnson was eleven for twenty three.
Speaker 1: He was active in the passing game, but he struggled
Speaker 1: to run the ball. They're left tackle got hurt in
Speaker 1: this game. D J. Humphries, like, that's a lot going
Speaker 1: wrong on that offense. They were so reliant on David
Speaker 1: Johnson last year too, which I I understood he was
Speaker 1: a great fantasy find and an excellent player and one
Speaker 1: like a revolutionary multi purpose threat. But I don't like
Speaker 1: any offense that is so reliant on one player, And
Speaker 1: that looked like that to me with the Cardinals last year.
Speaker 1: And now what happens now he's got Yeah, he's gotten
Speaker 1: hurt in their last two games, the finale last year
Speaker 1: and the opener. Just in terms of right now where
Speaker 1: we're recording this on Sunday night here in l A.
Speaker 1: ESPN hasn't missing multiple weeks at a minimum, and potentially
Speaker 1: after season. P FT reported that it has not been
Speaker 1: determined if he'll even miss time. So it's really all
Speaker 1: over the place. But you gotta hope if you're the Cardinals,
Speaker 1: Johnson still around, Hey, Nick, you want to stick around
Speaker 1: for one more game? Absolutely, let's do it. Jack showing
Speaker 1: blitz again. Let's see if they bring the house again.
Speaker 1: Yes they do. It's an all out blitz. I haven't
Speaker 1: dropped an he get the balls out again? That balls out?
Speaker 1: Dante Fowler picks it up forty, don't the thirty Dante
Speaker 1: Fowler the fifty to the ten to the five touchdown
Speaker 1: touchdown Jacksonville. Fowler has run it back and the Jackdonville
Speaker 1: defense is one in a monk? What were the Houston offense?
Speaker 1: And guess who? Yanni and cock Way once again, but
Speaker 1: against a different guy this time Chris Clark the left tackle,
Speaker 1: the chop swim buying Dockway that knocks the ball out
Speaker 1: and it's clearly a fumble and once Dante Fowler gets it,
Speaker 1: he's got an entire Craig What did you hear during
Speaker 1: I'm worried about the cat that was stepped on? And
Speaker 1: then that sounded a little bit like Brock Hossweiler's cliff
Speaker 1: from last year slash the cat was stepped on mid body?
Speaker 1: My goodness. The Jacksonville Jaguars set a franchise record with
Speaker 1: ten sacks and forced four turnovers, chasing Tom Savage out
Speaker 1: of the game and rolling to a twenty nine seven
Speaker 1: win over the anemic Houston Texans. Shook a lot of people,
Speaker 1: myself included, thought the Texans were well set up playing
Speaker 1: in front of a full house of resilient is it Houstonian's,
Speaker 1: but the old quarterback issue flared up on Bill O'Brien
Speaker 1: once more. As I watched most of the first half,
Speaker 1: and it just got worse and worse and uglier and uglier.
Speaker 1: I actually wondered how the Tom Savage's real drop would
Speaker 1: be used when breaking down this game? Do you want
Speaker 1: to hear it again? Pleasantly surprised, true bad at football.
Speaker 1: That's acco That's how he was, totally accurately, That's how
Speaker 1: he was on Sunday. You know, I don't want to
Speaker 1: pin it all on him because I want to be
Speaker 1: a nice guy here. Houston's offensive line is first off,
Speaker 1: they're one of the three cheapest units in the NFL.
Speaker 1: They looked like it on Sunday. They struggled to protect
Speaker 1: him from either side. Clais Campbell had a field day
Speaker 1: in the first half. He had three and a half sacks,
Speaker 1: which tied the franchise record for most in a game
Speaker 1: in the first bad for a free agent pick up
Speaker 1: in the first game four for the game, Dante Fowler
Speaker 1: was a wrecking crew on the other side by himself,
Speaker 1: uh and then Yannick and Gokway, which I'm glad that
Speaker 1: that play. That play guy said his name. I struggled
Speaker 1: to say in the entire game. He was also forced
Speaker 1: that defense finally looked like it was supposed to look
Speaker 1: for the last two years. But when it comes to
Speaker 1: Tom Savage, my real problem with him is he's a
Speaker 1: statue in the pocket and against pressure like that that
Speaker 1: you can't survive that way, you can't. And it's also
Speaker 1: worth pointing out Deshaun Watson came in and yes they
Speaker 1: had a touchdown drive right off the bat, but in
Speaker 1: the end, his numbers weren't any better. He actually averaged
Speaker 1: fewer yards per attempt. He was sacked four times and
Speaker 1: through an interception two. So I agree with you, not
Speaker 1: not even seen the game in depth though, that they
Speaker 1: have systemic problems that go beyond the quarterback and they
Speaker 1: don't have a logical veteran quarterback that can fix it.
Speaker 1: I think it's so concerning if you're Houston because the
Speaker 1: game script here and what happened so early in the
Speaker 1: year is everything against what you talked about wanting to
Speaker 1: achieve all offseason with Tom Savage, and in the fact
Speaker 1: that the veterans were all into him and he was
Speaker 1: their unquestioned leader, and Bill O'Brien, you know, pulls the
Speaker 1: plug midway through the first game of the year. Very
Speaker 1: concerning if on the flip side, if you're the Jaguars,
Speaker 1: you talked about we're gonna run the ball a hundred
Speaker 1: and fifty times a game and just hide Blake Bortles
Speaker 1: did and you did it, and you I would have
Speaker 1: thought the defense, even if it were quality, you would
Speaker 1: never be able to achieve that on offense. But they did.
Speaker 1: This is a great this is a great road win
Speaker 1: for Jacksonville. But I do want to see if this
Speaker 1: formula holds against the team and an offense that I
Speaker 1: could actually move the ball. I hate to say, you know,
Speaker 1: to maybe burst your bubble you expected to maybe come.
Speaker 1: I think it's gonna stick. Leonard four Nette looked like
Speaker 1: the pick worth, the pick everything you would expect from him.
Speaker 1: That was my NFL dot Com Rookie of the Year.
Speaker 1: You can find that on our site l dot com.
Speaker 1: You can also find my Jaguars defense making the leap
Speaker 1: this year and look at goods so fun. Actually I've
Speaker 1: had that unpublished. But and for net who caught three
Speaker 1: passed with their second leading receiver might have to continue
Speaker 1: to because Alan Roberts Robinson it's confirmed by the Jaguars
Speaker 1: has an a c L injury. It's believed to be
Speaker 1: a tour in a c L. They already were a
Speaker 1: little thin at receiver, just in the passing game in general.
Speaker 1: That's a huge Ken Leonard four Nette rushed the ball
Speaker 1: for even times this year. Stay healthy, that's the question
Speaker 1: I have. Also. J J. Watt left this game with
Speaker 1: an injury. Did he come back with he with a
Speaker 1: finger issue? Uh? And his brother out played him this
Speaker 1: week and he was very what was very frustrated about
Speaker 1: his effort and the team's effort. I don't know, listen
Speaker 1: Bill up one thing about Bill O'Brien. I don't and
Speaker 1: West you know, is all over O'Brien on this, and
Speaker 1: fairly so that he's very bad with the quarterback room.
Speaker 1: It's annoying to me that we, because we're so close
Speaker 1: to the game and covering the game, that we listened
Speaker 1: to three months of Tom Savage being pumped up as
Speaker 1: the guy. There was even some you know, like NW
Speaker 1: Hopkins talking about how he's a franchise type quarterback and
Speaker 1: then to bad quarters and he's banished, and I don't
Speaker 1: know if we're gonna see him again barring an injury.
Speaker 1: I just don't know if that's as bad as he was,
Speaker 1: and I would have to see watch the game more closely.
Speaker 1: Is the a guy that should be pulled out of
Speaker 1: the game after you spend all this time talking yourself
Speaker 1: into him being a real option. I just wonder what
Speaker 1: sort of instability it creates in your quarterback room, into
Speaker 1: a wider degree in your locker room, where you say,
Speaker 1: we're gonna get behind this guy for all the entire
Speaker 1: offseason and build him up and then and then in
Speaker 1: the minute one half goes bad. It's not entirely his fault.
Speaker 1: We change everything. I'm convinced that none of his teammates
Speaker 1: are worried about how he feels, and none of them
Speaker 1: are upset by him being benched in favor of Deshaun Watson,
Speaker 1: because because Deshaun Watson and Tom Savage right now are
Speaker 1: on the same plane, except that Deshaun Watson has the
Speaker 1: mobility to escape the pass for us that he's inevitably
Speaker 1: going to be facing all year well less than average line. Well,
Speaker 1: we'll have an update on this by the time some
Speaker 1: people hear this. But this is a Thursday night game.
Speaker 1: The Texans are playing this week against the Bengals, so
Speaker 1: can they about as sexy is last year's Christmas Eve
Speaker 1: game between? Alright, alright, alright, it's a fair point. Can
Speaker 1: they get to Shawn Watson? Ready on that short of
Speaker 1: arrest like trying to avoid o into it? Did you
Speaker 1: hear did you hear Greg the suit get upset? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Yeah on the wrist. You must enjoy that game. It
Speaker 1: will be fun for you that ladder. I'll be here
Speaker 1: on Thursday night, Dan, I'll come back. We'll be doing
Speaker 1: the previews show. I'm hoping I'll watch it, but I don't.
Speaker 1: I like to discuss good football when I see it.
Speaker 1: How about that Shook? Nice work, Thank you for stopping by.
Speaker 1: Appreciate h We love having you here. I love being here.
Speaker 1: Where are you off to? Now? What is the rest
Speaker 1: of your workout? Number four? Time is it? I don't
Speaker 1: think I have time to make the gym. We're gonna
Speaker 1: go watch more games today. There you go, Nick Shook
Speaker 1: signing off, Love us some Nick Shook. Let's move on.
Speaker 1: Cousin's long blump up again. He's got Thompson to his
Speaker 1: one buck again, goes Cousins. Phoopball couldn't close. It's picked
Speaker 1: up by Cox? Is now it was gonna fullball the Eagles.
Speaker 1: Carson Wentz through for three seven yards and two touchdowns,
Speaker 1: and the Eagles defense did their job as well. The
Speaker 1: Eagles with a thirty seventeen win over a sloppy Redskins team.
Speaker 1: Greg Carson Wentz looked like a guy ready to take
Speaker 1: the next step in year two, while Kirk Cousins and
Speaker 1: the Redskins just looked ineffective. Their offense didn't make you
Speaker 1: feel any better about the preseason you saw. But what
Speaker 1: really stood out to me was something we've talked about
Speaker 1: this offseason, which is by far the best group in
Speaker 1: this game was Fletcher Cox, Brandon Graham and Timmy Journ. Again,
Speaker 1: they won this game. They were dominating it early. They're
Speaker 1: getting all over Cousins making it very hard to do anything.
Speaker 1: They end up winning the game with the strip sack late,
Speaker 1: but even before that they were hitting him. They were
Speaker 1: sacking him there, getting tackles for loss in the in
Speaker 1: the Redskins running game, and Carson Wentz he had his
Speaker 1: ups and downs, But I think if the Eagles can
Speaker 1: have that group up front each in every week, they're
Speaker 1: gonna have a chance to win a lot of games. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's unusual to look at two teams where what we
Speaker 1: saw in August translates almost entirely to Week one, and
Speaker 1: that that unit for Philly dominated throughout the entire preseason.
Speaker 1: And the question for me was, when the lights go on,
Speaker 1: would we see a Redskin team under Jake Gruden that
Speaker 1: suddenly knew how to run the ball, that suddenly the
Speaker 1: chemistry between Cousins and Terrell Prior and others would be there.
Speaker 1: And Prior had a better game than we've seen, you know,
Speaker 1: during any time with the Redskins. But this offense concerns me.
Speaker 1: And and even with his better numbers, he there was
Speaker 1: a couple of deep shots early, one which he dropped
Speaker 1: one which the it wasn't syncd up him and Cousins.
Speaker 1: They were not on the same page. So you saw
Speaker 1: that early kind of chemistry issues plaguing them that they
Speaker 1: were worried about. And Josh Dotson just wasn't even on
Speaker 1: the field that much. They need him to be out
Speaker 1: there a lot, and they used him sparing Lee. I
Speaker 1: don't know if they're sending a message or they just
Speaker 1: don't trust them to stay healthy right now. I mean Cousins,
Speaker 1: on top of being sacked four times and having his
Speaker 1: own issues, loses two fumbles. I mean, you want to
Speaker 1: look at a team in the in the NFC East
Speaker 1: that Greg you called the Eagles to win this division.
Speaker 1: I mean they have they have some nasty elements to them.
Speaker 1: I don' think Jim Schwartz is a coordinator, Coordinator of
Speaker 1: the year type candidate. I think, yeah, I mean, this
Speaker 1: is a bad, bad start for Washington. But Cousins is
Speaker 1: a guy that people like to count him out and
Speaker 1: then all of a sudden he'll get I'm not I'm
Speaker 1: not what's gonna be Okay? I think bad start, and yeah,
Speaker 1: they clearly have things they have to work out, and
Speaker 1: I think Philadelphia, uh, you know, benefited from that well
Speaker 1: real quick. Carson Wentz. I mean Carson Wentz. It's I
Speaker 1: think it's okay to get excited about Carson Wentz. I
Speaker 1: don't know if he's like a top ten quarterback this
Speaker 1: year or whenever, but he's fun to watch. I mean
Speaker 1: that one touchdown, dude, that's Randall Cunningham stuff. I mean,
Speaker 1: that is that's rare. We talked about it. Very different
Speaker 1: player Patrick Mahomes in the presect. There aren't many people
Speaker 1: that can pull off a play that Carson Wentz did
Speaker 1: to act large and we talked about Aglar lot this offseason.
Speaker 1: Ended up having six catches for eight six yards. He
Speaker 1: had that touchdown. He also had a couple of key
Speaker 1: third down conversions. I think the Eagles really want Carson
Speaker 1: Wentz to start coming up with some of those improv
Speaker 1: improvisational place and I think they have the receivers this year,
Speaker 1: even though he missed some passes that can do the
Speaker 1: scramble drill a little better with him to to come
Speaker 1: up with those places. One injury here. Ronald Darby, the
Speaker 1: cornerback acquired in a trade from the Bills last month,
Speaker 1: suffered a pretty bad looking ankle injury. Dislocated it, tendon damage. Uh.
Speaker 1: You could expect him to miss many weeks and perhaps
Speaker 1: all of the weeks in the season. We'll see how
Speaker 1: that plays off. Was huge. I mean, there's a reason
Speaker 1: they they made a big trade for him and gave
Speaker 1: up a real assets for him. He was looking very
Speaker 1: good for them too, and he and they were really
Speaker 1: thin at that position. It's a huge loss. Let's move
Speaker 1: back to the A. F. C. Dalton empty backfield. In
Speaker 1: the shotgun, Ravens bring a blitz past reflective floats high
Speaker 1: to the air, and it is intercepted in the ten
Speaker 1: yards large and taken down and have a five yard
Speaker 1: line as the Ravens got their third pick of the game.
Speaker 1: Terrell Suggs had the tip and learned Darius whim with
Speaker 1: the pick. I don't think I've ever seen a ball
Speaker 1: tip that high before. That must have grown up twenty
Speaker 1: feet straight up in the air, and nobody knew where
Speaker 1: it was except La Darius, who caught it in a
Speaker 1: crouch like a catcher would. The Ravens defense was as
Speaker 1: good as advertised on Sunday, picking off Andy Dalton four
Speaker 1: times and forcing a fumble in a twenty zero victory.
Speaker 1: Folks to shut out victory over the Cincinnati ben Gals
Speaker 1: in front of a frustrated home crowd at Paul Brown
Speaker 1: Stadium UM on Thursday. On Thursday's previous foot which again
Speaker 1: let me listens dropping nuggets, you gonna learn something. It's
Speaker 1: not just about the flagship show. On Thursday, we talked
Speaker 1: about this raven season rising and falling on their defense
Speaker 1: channeling it's dominant ways of old. So far, so good.
Speaker 1: As for the Bengals, so gross. I mean, I think
Speaker 1: that's appropriate. If it sounds would never do it again.
Speaker 1: The offense deserved every boo that rained down on the field.
Speaker 1: But let's be honest, because you open your season against
Speaker 1: a division rival and you get shut out after people
Speaker 1: like me and many others that that stuck up for
Speaker 1: Cincinnati said last year was a Murphy's Law type of season.
Speaker 1: Now they're healthy, Now they're gonna get things together. Everybody
Speaker 1: that had concerns about this team, whether it was the
Speaker 1: offensive line, or whether Andy Dalton was good enough or
Speaker 1: what have you, all that stuff played out in a
Speaker 1: nightmarish form for Cincinnati. I'm concerned about a Bengals offensive
Speaker 1: line that allows five sacks um an overall effort that
Speaker 1: has all Dalton lose a fumble through four picks, and
Speaker 1: the guy who most impressed me in the preseason, Joe Mixon,
Speaker 1: rushes for nine yards off eight carries. I'm sure that.
Speaker 1: I'm sure the narrative in terms of having a running
Speaker 1: game went out the window pretty early here. But I
Speaker 1: I remember Dan, you and I watching that Brown's Bengals
Speaker 1: game from were Dalton utterly melt melted down in a
Speaker 1: primetime loss to Cleveland. I don't know if he's had
Speaker 1: a game this bad since then he's good. Point too,
Speaker 1: very very bad play. I mean he had a bad
Speaker 1: game in general, but early in the game, when things
Speaker 1: were under control, they're in the red zone and he
Speaker 1: floats a pass into coverage on third and seven. His
Speaker 1: receiver was well covered, but it's just a throw you
Speaker 1: can't be making, especially if you've been a starter for
Speaker 1: seven years as Dalton has, and was picked off by C. J.
Speaker 1: Moseley and run back twenty five yards. And then in
Speaker 1: the after they've fallen behind. Um, I want to say
Speaker 1: it was in the third quarter, the start of the
Speaker 1: third quarter, Cincinnati gets an interception, gets set up. You
Speaker 1: see that, the crowd getting into the game. Uh since
Speaker 1: it then it makes it a couple of plays, gets
Speaker 1: into the red zone, and then and then Dalton rolls
Speaker 1: to his right, doesn't sense the pressure, takes a sack,
Speaker 1: fumbles the ball, loses it, and then at that point
Speaker 1: all the airs out of that stadium and they never
Speaker 1: really threatened again after that. It was basically, if you're
Speaker 1: not an Andy Dalton fan, this was the exact type
Speaker 1: of game that reinforces all the notions you have. Well,
Speaker 1: the the box score in a lot of these games.
Speaker 1: Offensively in Week one was ugly. It's usually offense is
Speaker 1: ahead of defense early in the season, there's there's higher
Speaker 1: scoring because the weather and all that. Both of these
Speaker 1: teams were under three yards. The Bengals are at two
Speaker 1: to twenty, which is really really low. That's about where
Speaker 1: the Seahawks were too. You don't see that too oft
Speaker 1: in the NFL. The Ravens weren't even much better. But
Speaker 1: you should give the defense. We should give the defense,
Speaker 1: uh the most credit because they're coming into this week
Speaker 1: looking like one of the deepest, baddest units around and
Speaker 1: they come and pitch a shutout, which you just don't
Speaker 1: see in the NFL too much. To else Sugs, I
Speaker 1: don't know. I don't know what he does that he
Speaker 1: never gets worse like he No, I'm just saying he
Speaker 1: never gets where he gets better. He's there, James Harrison,
Speaker 1: like on that front, right, Brandon Williams had a big game.
Speaker 1: Michael Pierce is a nose tackle like they're they're kind
Speaker 1: of big and nasty up front, and then I think
Speaker 1: they translate really well to day's NFL where there's a
Speaker 1: lot of substitutions and in depth where they can just
Speaker 1: have guys out there for snaps and they're just they're
Speaker 1: shuttling in and out and they're doing a great job.
Speaker 1: I liked that you go out and signed Tony Jefferson
Speaker 1: and he had a big game, and that secondary, which
Speaker 1: was a nightmare a couple of seasons ago, totally short
Speaker 1: up at this point, and Baltimore could win games based
Speaker 1: on their defense alone. We talked about them winning games
Speaker 1: twelve to nine. Well, torny to nothing works. Yeah. Two
Speaker 1: more notes about the quarterback played Dalton against the Ravens. Yikes.
Speaker 1: I mean he's now had in nine he's had nine
Speaker 1: three interception games in his career, four of them against
Speaker 1: the Ravens. And he's had one other four pick game
Speaker 1: that was in two thousand thirteen, also against the Ravens.
Speaker 1: And Joe Flacco, on the other hand, no fluco, no fluco.
Speaker 1: Not a great performance. You didn't have to do much
Speaker 1: nine of seventeen twenty one yards. Uh. He did throw
Speaker 1: a pick, but it was almost a perfect situation because
Speaker 1: you're kind of working Flacco back into the mix. He
Speaker 1: was not gonna carry you on a bad back this week.
Speaker 1: You let the defense do it and maybe that's gonna
Speaker 1: be the order of the day in Baltimore. It's it's
Speaker 1: gonna be a lot of ugly games. Danny Woodhead suffered
Speaker 1: a non contact injury. We'll see how long he's like
Speaker 1: a hamstring, which was a problem this summer as well. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it was not was barely on the field for them.
Speaker 1: He was also very active in that drive before he
Speaker 1: got hurt. He looked like he was gonna be a
Speaker 1: big part of the offense, and now he's got to
Speaker 1: big to get a road division victory. This feels like
Speaker 1: those count double well in the division. Was gonna accept
Speaker 1: the top three teams can be separated by two games
Speaker 1: in that division. Hey Ravens, great job. Let's stay in
Speaker 1: the a f C North and move on to believe
Speaker 1: land clean snapping right for the kicker is blocked the
Speaker 1: Steelers pocket, it's loosened bounding in the end zone. If
Speaker 1: the Steelers fall upon it in the Brown's end zone
Speaker 1: for a touchdown, Tyler Mattic Kevin shot in and they
Speaker 1: get the clean swat Anthony chicklo able to pounce upon it.
Speaker 1: Have a Pittsburgh Steelers strike pay durt without their offense
Speaker 1: even getting on the field as the former a blow
Speaker 1: blocks it Ailo gets the six. The Steelers got in
Speaker 1: front with a huge special teams play and Ben Roethlisberger
Speaker 1: through two touchdown passes the tight end Jesse James. The
Speaker 1: result teen win over the Cleveland Browns. Mark uh downstairs,
Speaker 1: you didn't seem to put much stock in the idea
Speaker 1: of a moral victory, but given the Steelers all they
Speaker 1: can handle, counts his progress right. Weird, a very weird game.
Speaker 1: And Greg made the point on Thursdays Show that there
Speaker 1: was a week to play Pittsburgh it might be this
Speaker 1: one because of the kind of lack of time they
Speaker 1: spent together on offense in the preseason, and it really
Speaker 1: played out that way. In the first half. I saw
Speaker 1: Cleveland do a couple of things. They basically had a
Speaker 1: couple of safety is just hanging back, almost playing like
Speaker 1: a prevent type defense that were sort of forcing Big
Speaker 1: Ben too watch the field, and they were throwing a
Speaker 1: crazy blitz packages Adam left and right, and you take
Speaker 1: away that blocked punt for a touchdown. This game is
Speaker 1: eight in fourteen. And here's the thing. If you look
Speaker 1: at what Pittsburgh was able to accomplish and not accomplish
Speaker 1: on offense. It was a massive like output by Antonio Brown,
Speaker 1: who blew up right before the half and never never
Speaker 1: settled down after that. But Levy on Bell on the
Speaker 1: field for the majority of the game was bottled up
Speaker 1: from start to finish. And really, honestly, Cleveland came close
Speaker 1: to taking this thing. It's just that they don't really
Speaker 1: seem to have the weapons themselves to go and take
Speaker 1: advantage of a game where Pittsburgh's not on top of
Speaker 1: its own. Well, it's another game. Neither one of these
Speaker 1: teams went over yards. That is a weird game. That
Speaker 1: is a there's a lot of defense dominated weeks. Uh.
Speaker 1: Antonio Brown eleven for one eight two and he made
Speaker 1: the big play of the game at the end to play.
Speaker 1: He he crosses across the entire field. UH leaps for
Speaker 1: a ball in coverage and that's why he's arguably the
Speaker 1: best wide receiver in the league. He comes down with
Speaker 1: the ball and that really sealed the game. Mark. What
Speaker 1: were your thoughts on deshaunk Eiser in his first start.
Speaker 1: He did throw a couple of or score a couple
Speaker 1: of touchdowns. He seemed to do some good things. It
Speaker 1: was i cannot a Cleveland has not one and opener
Speaker 1: since two thousand and four, which everyone knows at this point.
Speaker 1: But it was the most promising I really. I feel
Speaker 1: like it's just been hammered into people's minds, it's been
Speaker 1: hammered into mine. But it was Jeff Garcia, of all
Speaker 1: people that won that game back then, way back when.
Speaker 1: I have not seen a more promising rookie debut by
Speaker 1: a Browns quarterback that includes Tim Couch, that includes anyone
Speaker 1: dating back to the return of the league. It was
Speaker 1: not perfect. They did not protect. What I liked about
Speaker 1: it was that sacks seven times, some of them were
Speaker 1: his own fault, but just kept getting back up, just
Speaker 1: like he did in the preseason. I think that he's
Speaker 1: got a demeanor about him on the field where he
Speaker 1: doesn't freak out in the pocket. He looks off his
Speaker 1: first receiver, he'll find a second. He showed chemistry with
Speaker 1: Corey Coleman and a few other Browns receivers as well.
Speaker 1: I honestly think that there's something to take away from
Speaker 1: this game that you can grow on. And I do
Speaker 1: think he's gonna have a couple of games where he
Speaker 1: will surprise people and knock out a favorite team or two,
Speaker 1: and he might not have the crazy pressure. I know
Speaker 1: it's not a good team, but the crazy pressure that
Speaker 1: a lot of Brown's quarterbacks have had. Because I agree
Speaker 1: with in his offensive line play better, you would think
Speaker 1: that they can play even better. Can the defense be better?
Speaker 1: I know it's only one week, but they gave up
Speaker 1: fewer yards mark in this game than they did in
Speaker 1: any game of all of last season. They also gave
Speaker 1: up fewer yards. The Steelers had fewer yards than almost
Speaker 1: any one of their games. It would have been their
Speaker 1: second or third worst game if for the Steelers office.
Speaker 1: So that's that's that's big. They only gave up twenty
Speaker 1: one points or less one time all of last season,
Speaker 1: So it was an embarrassing defense last year, and this
Speaker 1: was not embarrassing. But by any stretch, no, they look different.
Speaker 1: They're actually tackling people and stopping the run, which was
Speaker 1: not present last year. M two more notes. They have
Speaker 1: to clean that up with Kaislo. If he's gonna get
Speaker 1: sacked seven times a game, not gonna stay healthy. We've
Speaker 1: seen this with Cleveland with injuries at the quarterback position.
Speaker 1: We already know their depth. He also puts himself and
Speaker 1: he puts himself in danger. He had two runs today
Speaker 1: where he got hit heavily. When you've got to you've
Speaker 1: got to be sliding. And finally, um T J. Watt
Speaker 1: two sacks and the interception of his debut. So the
Speaker 1: big summer hype seems to be paying off, and Big
Speaker 1: Ben does I'm prove to twenty one and two against
Speaker 1: the Indie uh from Indians against the Browns in his career.
Speaker 1: Wasn't there a T. J. Watt sandwich prop or something?
Speaker 1: Did West throw that out there that he's gonna get
Speaker 1: more than J. J. Watt? My crazy? It sounds crampy
Speaker 1: because I don't remember that. Maybe that's another podcast you do, Greg,
Speaker 1: I don't know. Let's move on. Newton with his arms outstretched,
Speaker 1: fists balled up, indicating a possible play change single high
Speaker 1: safety looks saying France Newton from her muddy pocket, flicks
Speaker 1: a pass caught left side, deep down the sideline. Russell
Speaker 1: Shepherd breaks away and we'll store a touchdown Carolina Panthers
Speaker 1: forty yards Cam Newton to Russell Shepherd. That's called a bus.
Speaker 1: So far, so good for Cam Newton and his surgically
Speaker 1: repaired shoulder, he threw touchdown passes. He threw two touchdown passes,
Speaker 1: and the Panthers defense did the rest in a three
Speaker 1: win over the forty Niners and Kyle Shanahan's head coaching debut. Mark,
Speaker 1: This was supposed to be a season of renewed hope
Speaker 1: by the Bay. That may still be the case, but
Speaker 1: Sunday just felt like more of the same for a
Speaker 1: scuffling organization. Well, they ran into an excellent defense and
Speaker 1: it was the kind of performance by Carolina that will
Speaker 1: always expose a quarterback like Brian Hoyer who was not
Speaker 1: protected well but also creates his own issues. And you
Speaker 1: know he does. He does. And I was having flashbacks
Speaker 1: listening to Mark watch this game, and he was just like,
Speaker 1: oh Hoyer, Well it's Yer, not another Hoyer. It was
Speaker 1: a lot of Hoyer. It was frustrating. Although I found
Speaker 1: Cam Newton to be I think Panthers fans would have
Speaker 1: been frustrated by his performance, especially in the first half.
Speaker 1: He seemed to warm up as the game went on.
Speaker 1: In the entire offense sort of came into its own
Speaker 1: later on. But I think that happened against the forty Niners.
Speaker 1: Team was sort of broken by the end the third quarter.
Speaker 1: This game feltically it was six hours long. Let me
Speaker 1: note that. But Newton to me, he missed a wide
Speaker 1: open at at Dixon in the end zone. He had
Speaker 1: a couple of throws, one to Calvin Benjamin in a
Speaker 1: deep shot that was intercepted. Uh in a in a
Speaker 1: way a beautiful a beautiful, beautiful interception by Jakiski Tart.
Speaker 1: Jakrisky Tart forty nine or safety one of the players
Speaker 1: of the day. I don't camp Camp to me was
Speaker 1: not all there at all. He moved well, but he
Speaker 1: is not seeing the field perfectly yet and it's going
Speaker 1: to take a few more weeks to play The Bills
Speaker 1: next week. Had McCaffrey look in his debut, He seemed
Speaker 1: to be a big part of the offense as we expected. No,
Speaker 1: not a breakout effort by any means. Yeah, I think
Speaker 1: he was. I would say he was largely bottled up,
Speaker 1: maybe strong, but he didn't have one of these sort
Speaker 1: of flashy forty five yard breakaway runs. But it is
Speaker 1: so clear that he is going to have a massive
Speaker 1: workload from week to week. But along with that, saying
Speaker 1: with Jonathan Stewart. I think they're going to find a
Speaker 1: way to use them both. And there was one Oh,
Speaker 1: I think they love to do that in this and
Speaker 1: they and there was a screen pass to Jonathan Stewart
Speaker 1: that was successful in my mind, specifically because McCaffrey was
Speaker 1: on the field and causing concerns for that defense. Jack
Speaker 1: Thompson they used as a pass thrusher had a big
Speaker 1: game overall. If they could add him to Davis and Keithley,
Speaker 1: that's the best linebacker group in the league, and then
Speaker 1: Wes Horton and load of Layla and Peppers and Kwan Short,
Speaker 1: they might not need Cam Newton to be crazy good
Speaker 1: right away. I think they've got the defense and running
Speaker 1: formula that Ron rivera wire. Yeah. I didn't really think
Speaker 1: this much, but it kind of maybe just seeing it
Speaker 1: in action in Week one. I kind of like Carolyn
Speaker 1: Carolina is a bounce back team this season. If the
Speaker 1: defense is gonna be good and Cam is healthy and
Speaker 1: McCaffrey is gonna break out and have big games, and
Speaker 1: you've got they look good at parts. You've got a
Speaker 1: Hall of Fame linebacker as long as he stays healthy
Speaker 1: at his absolute apex right in the middle of that thing. Uh,
Speaker 1: there you go. Let's uh move on to Oh yeah, baby,
Speaker 1: it's the rebuilding Bowl now. Marco the full back is
Speaker 1: hand and they're gonna flank him out to the left side.
Speaker 1: McCoy the tailback first and goal from the two. Tyrod
Speaker 1: gonna throw it, fires a short caught in the endo, touchdown.
Speaker 1: Andre Holmes homes to the house. Touchdown Buffalo. They came
Speaker 1: from the right side, Merbs, so they faked to hand
Speaker 1: up go play action pass Charles Place to the back
Speaker 1: of the end line, which two of the coverage and
Speaker 1: here comes Andre Holmes underneath. Tyrod buys time with his legs.
Speaker 1: It just delivers a float into Andre Holmes. He walks
Speaker 1: in on touch touchdown Buffalo. Tyrod Taylor threw two touchdown
Speaker 1: passes and the Bill's defense had no trouble stifling the
Speaker 1: Jets a twelve win at Orchard Park. Sean McDermott wins
Speaker 1: and his head coaching debut in the Jets. Uh looked
Speaker 1: comfortable in what should be a familiar role for them
Speaker 1: this season. Uh In truth, gentleman, does that mean they
Speaker 1: looked comfortable? Is a loser paying second? We were just
Speaker 1: like that that was a bad It's like they I'll
Speaker 1: tell you what, they played hard for Todd Bowls. You
Speaker 1: could tell this was a team that uh it wasn't
Speaker 1: in their mailing, in their effort, but it just it
Speaker 1: just there's so much against this team. They just don't
Speaker 1: have the talent on the field. And you see it
Speaker 1: even against the Bills, team that we know isn't going anywhere.
Speaker 1: Because in truth and a nine point defeat is a
Speaker 1: small victory for the Jets. They were dominated by the Bills. Uh.
Speaker 1: They nearly doubled up the Jets in total yards. Uh
Speaker 1: if the Bills were a little more uh efficient as
Speaker 1: a team, this is probably you know, a thirty to
Speaker 1: ten type game. But they got it done anyway. So
Speaker 1: you know, in terms of takeaways, I I guess I'll
Speaker 1: I think it's time to throw it. So, my dad,
Speaker 1: Keith Hanss, who is uh you know, if you're new
Speaker 1: to the podcast, my dad is a Bronx native. Who. Uh,
Speaker 1: if you grew up in the Bronx in the nineteen fifties,
Speaker 1: you were definitely a Yankees fan and you were probably
Speaker 1: a Giants fan who also played it um Yankee Stadium
Speaker 1: in the Bronx but my dad was brought to the
Speaker 1: Jets by Joe namath and and his flair, and he
Speaker 1: drafted me into this. He got Super Bowl three. I
Speaker 1: never got any of that. Uh. But uh, I've I've
Speaker 1: been stuck with this team. I'm now passing down to
Speaker 1: my two sons. I don't know why, but I am.
Speaker 1: But Keiths been there through all the ups and downs,
Speaker 1: mostly down. So let's check in with dad. His name
Speaker 1: is Keith, He's dance Dad. He'll doubt about it. He's
Speaker 1: a league Jets fan. What is he going to say
Speaker 1: bull game to say? What is he going to bull
Speaker 1: happing game to say? The Jets Bills This afternoon, Bold
Speaker 1: had the Jets playing hard, but Taylor and McCoy would
Speaker 1: get too much for the Jet defense. The Jet offense
Speaker 1: was terrible. Uh. The gown is accurate but short asking
Speaker 1: but unable to throw deep. Probably good with personnel. On
Speaker 1: a bright side, Churs was was pretty good as wide
Speaker 1: receiver and stepped in there and look good. Uh. My
Speaker 1: question on the offense also was where was while pout
Speaker 1: seems a little slow when the offensive lines uh didn't
Speaker 1: seem to be able to open up any holes either,
Speaker 1: so it wasn't a very good effort offensively about the Jets, right,
Speaker 1: I like, did you think this at the end? Yeah,
Speaker 1: we should be thanking him. This is if you're if
Speaker 1: you're a stringer covering a sport, this is a tough assignment.
Speaker 1: He has this. I know, I feel like that was
Speaker 1: it sounded later in the season than week one, You
Speaker 1: know what I mean, Well, he's already been through the preseason.
Speaker 1: That's been long enough. If you're listen, if you're a
Speaker 1: Jets fan, Yeah, you had five and eleven, which was
Speaker 1: really a worse season than that. The five and eleven
Speaker 1: looks kind this offseason aged you just how utterly depressing
Speaker 1: it was as you sunk deeper and deeper into this
Speaker 1: long rebuild, bloodletting. And now the season arrived, and it
Speaker 1: starts with a pretty decisive loss against the bad team. Uh.
Speaker 1: To the point that my dad made about the running game,
Speaker 1: I don't really know what I understand. He had guaranteed
Speaker 1: money coming. I just don't understand mad Fortes role on
Speaker 1: this team. Uh he did, he just looked maybe two
Speaker 1: steps slow. Uh. And and the offense in general fifteen
Speaker 1: Carriacster thirty eight yards to a half of pop's not
Speaker 1: gonna get yards. I mean, so many of these games
Speaker 1: are just very strange, shot out of like an early
Speaker 1: nineteen seventies cannon. But why why is Josh McCown throwing
Speaker 1: the ball thirty nine times in a game that was
Speaker 1: close up until I see I'm watching the game, and
Speaker 1: I didn't see it as some type of horrific breakdown
Speaker 1: and play calling. I think they they were playing from
Speaker 1: behind the entire game, just trying to get things going
Speaker 1: on the Buffalo side of the ball. I thought Tyrod
Speaker 1: Taylor looked good. Again. I don't quite get the hate
Speaker 1: the Tyrod Taylor gets because every time I see him
Speaker 1: play with the Jets, he makes plays. Uh, he makes
Speaker 1: plays with his feet. He can make throws. I know
Speaker 1: he's not He's not Steve Young in terms of accuracy,
Speaker 1: but the guy makes every time I see him play,
Speaker 1: he makes a couple of guys miss and that's why
Speaker 1: he's the best running quarterback in football. I I think
Speaker 1: if you're a Bills fan, I know it's the Jets,
Speaker 1: but you have to be really encouraged after the preseason
Speaker 1: that they had for all the troubles that the Jets have,
Speaker 1: and everyone makes fun of them that's mostly on offense.
Speaker 1: I'm not saying they're great defense, but they're not. They're
Speaker 1: not an embarrassing defense entire Rode after the preseason that
Speaker 1: he had and the concussion to go out there and
Speaker 1: lead a team to four hundred yards of offense, to
Speaker 1: throw for eight yards per tempt, and for the team
Speaker 1: to run for a hundred and ninety yards. This looks
Speaker 1: like out of the ninety two thousand and sixteen Bills playbook,
Speaker 1: where they're the number one rushing team in the league.
Speaker 1: Jets missed Sheldon Richardson, who they traded. Uh, encouraging, Well,
Speaker 1: you gotta feel a little bit of hope they'll coming
Speaker 1: out of that, Like, Okay, this is a perfect game
Speaker 1: to start at home against the Jets. Let's face it,
Speaker 1: but the Buffalo running games really deal. Let Sewn McCoy
Speaker 1: looks like as good as he ever was. I wonder, uh,
Speaker 1: if they're truly in it to lose it, like the
Speaker 1: Jets with a rebuild. If McCoy has some trade value
Speaker 1: before he gets hurt, he's so, he's so nothing they're
Speaker 1: trying to I really don't Yeah, maybe they're not. And
Speaker 1: then one other interesting thing is Mike Tilbert had a
Speaker 1: really beefy role in the running game. He had twelve carries,
Speaker 1: he scored a touchdown. So the Bills looked very capable
Speaker 1: against the Jets. Let's see what happens when they're against uh,
Speaker 1: you know, better opponents. Let's move on. Here comes the
Speaker 1: pressure for the Rams. Tol Zine gets it out far
Speaker 1: side today, jumpson, picks it off ten picks six a
Speaker 1: new season, new l A Rams Jared Goff passed for
Speaker 1: a career high three hundred and six yards and a touchdown.
Speaker 1: It's his first one. Is an NFL starter my own. Uh.
Speaker 1: The l A Rams embarrassed the Indianapolis Colts forty six
Speaker 1: nine at the call seems shot. Sean McVeigh could not
Speaker 1: have asked for a better debut as a head coach,
Speaker 1: and Scott Tolzine, yes, started starting quarterback. Actually somehow went
Speaker 1: worse than expected for all Scott Hull Greg Yeah, the
Speaker 1: early pick six, I mean, the sacks, everything was bad.
Speaker 1: But you gotta give credit to the Rams. And I
Speaker 1: could hear the cheering all the way from the from
Speaker 1: the newsroom. Chris Wesseling over at his paramour's abode and
Speaker 1: they're getting excited, and people say, oh, well, it's just
Speaker 1: Scott Tolzine and the Colts. Well, you know what, last
Speaker 1: year's Rams weren't blowing out anyone. The last game we
Speaker 1: saw like this in the Colosseum, it was the Rams
Speaker 1: that are getting blown out by the Atlanta Falcons. And
Speaker 1: what's a good sign of a solid team you blow
Speaker 1: out the bad teams. I think this team is exciting.
Speaker 1: I even smell a little whiff of team of a
Speaker 1: t L with this, because I think West is probably
Speaker 1: getting into him and I think Wade Phillips gets me
Speaker 1: going a little bit. And it's just that they've it's
Speaker 1: been so bad to watch that and once you and
Speaker 1: once Gregg and West have decided on the Team of eight,
Speaker 1: time have no turning back. So that's the right ahead,
Speaker 1: go ahead. I was gonna say that I am totally
Speaker 1: with you in the sense that, yeah, the cults are
Speaker 1: dreadful and I don't want to hear it by the
Speaker 1: way I subjected on this podcast and elsewhere. Oh the
Speaker 1: culture making all the right moves. I know Andrew luck
Speaker 1: is a huge, huge missing piece of the pie puzzle here,
Speaker 1: but he you know, this team looked like they were
Speaker 1: worse than the Jets today and it wasn't necessarily close,
Speaker 1: but the Rams taking care of business. They don't look
Speaker 1: this doesn't look like a flukey win for the Rams.
Speaker 1: They looked like very much like a good team. And
Speaker 1: a lot of that me was Jared Goff looked like
Speaker 1: a real quarterback and for the first time post Jeff Fisher,
Speaker 1: because it never happened during Jeff Fisher's reign in that
Speaker 1: in that city, Cooper Cup, Sammy Watkins, you're adding players
Speaker 1: around a young quarterback that Hooper Cup is the absolutely
Speaker 1: perfect security blanket who makes in some incredible catches today.
Speaker 1: And he looked just like the guy we saw and
Speaker 1: he is good enough where golf trusts him to just
Speaker 1: kind of throw the ball up and cuk Cup is
Speaker 1: making a contested catch or he's making a one handed catch.
Speaker 1: I think he could lead this team and receiving. He
Speaker 1: did it on Sunday. And they're just the creativity and
Speaker 1: the way that they're coaching golf. Like there's one play
Speaker 1: where they're they're faking an end around and then they're
Speaker 1: faking something else and then suddenly you got a wide
Speaker 1: open receiver in the middle of the field because of
Speaker 1: all that action, and it gets it easy to find
Speaker 1: throw for golf that he can execute. He was very
Speaker 1: solid to I am concerned. I'm just looking at the
Speaker 1: box score. I'm gonna go watch this game later. But
Speaker 1: Todd Gurley, this looks like another nightmare scenario. Nineteen carries
Speaker 1: for forty yards two point one? Is it? Is there
Speaker 1: a mirage there is there's something else attached to that.
Speaker 1: That's a lot of carries for not a lot of yards. Yeah. Early,
Speaker 1: and you know a lot of those poor carries were
Speaker 1: in the second half when they kind of knew that
Speaker 1: they were on, especially in the third quarter. But I
Speaker 1: wouldn't say that he stood out in any particular way
Speaker 1: early in the game either. He just was kind of
Speaker 1: a work course. He did catch the ball a lot
Speaker 1: fifty six yards. You know, he has to show that
Speaker 1: he can be special, but I think other guys on
Speaker 1: the team showed it. Robert Quinn, who Phillips talked about
Speaker 1: as DeMarcus ware like uh in terms of the role
Speaker 1: and that the speed that he could have. He looked
Speaker 1: like he was back. And this front seven without Aaron
Speaker 1: Donald really just made it impossible for the Colts, And
Speaker 1: my last thought in this game, Chuck Flagano come back
Speaker 1: to us. I don't want to say there's a hot
Speaker 1: button involved with this guy, but one weekend, but I
Speaker 1: thought it was so emblematic of uh, my feelings about
Speaker 1: this guy. They're down ten nothing in the first quarter. Uh,
Speaker 1: they get a play Marlon mack Um should have a
Speaker 1: touchdown where he he clearly stays in bounds, hits the pylon.
Speaker 1: UH scores. He gets ruled erroneously out of bounds. Instead
Speaker 1: of taking a look at it, challenging it and getting
Speaker 1: seven points, he rushes his team to the line. Uh.
Speaker 1: They do a running play that loses yardage. They do
Speaker 1: another running play that loses yardage, and then a third
Speaker 1: down at the goal line, they have Scott Tolzine throw
Speaker 1: and he very nearly throws another interception. It was a
Speaker 1: It was a perfect microcosm of Chuck Pogano as a
Speaker 1: flawed head coach to me, because you have to have
Speaker 1: seven points in that spot and you take it away
Speaker 1: from the kid. Mac feels like an l A based
Speaker 1: you know, honorage to Jeff Fisher, a nod to what
Speaker 1: Fisher did with that team for years. Let's move on.
Speaker 1: Oh and one more thing about that Rams win guys
Speaker 1: that he locked it up. Oh, oh, good job Dan, whatever, Dan,
Speaker 1: an excellent job by you. Well, you know, maybe you
Speaker 1: should try it next week. Mark, didn't work out so
Speaker 1: good for you this week. Maybe I should have doubled
Speaker 1: up with you on that lock at. I didn't like
Speaker 1: that strategy by you. Worry about doubling up, but lock
Speaker 1: it doesn't matter on just Sunday Night. Sunday Night touchdown
Speaker 1: Dak Prescott's touchdown past to Jason Witten, old reliable was
Speaker 1: really all the Cowboys needed on Sunday Night football. The
Speaker 1: Giants didn't show up without Odell Beckham. Uh. Offense could
Speaker 1: not do anything. And when I say they can't do
Speaker 1: anything two three yards at total offense, there's that two
Speaker 1: hundred number again Boys. The final score nineteen to three,
Speaker 1: a easy victory, uh for the Dallas Cowboys. Mark Sezler,
Speaker 1: who moved to one And want to know and if
Speaker 1: you're a Giants fan, you have to be upset that
Speaker 1: the team didn't compete without its best player. And if
Speaker 1: you're a Cowboys fan, hey, you check a win against
Speaker 1: the Giants, which you didn't have one of last year yeah.
Speaker 1: I mean, this is a Cowboys team that we just
Speaker 1: spent the entire offseason in panic mode over their d fence,
Speaker 1: and suddenly you're the New York Giants weather Weather without
Speaker 1: Odell Beckham, a three point stinker and all the same issues.
Speaker 1: Is last year that I saw a running game that
Speaker 1: you cannot count on on any level, putting everything on
Speaker 1: Eli Manning to handle. When Brandon Marshall is your leading
Speaker 1: receiver in theory tonight, give me a break in what
Speaker 1: Carry's coming after me this year? You can't trust Carry.
Speaker 1: You don't know where I like, well, Mark almost We
Speaker 1: almost lost Mark by the end of last season. So
Speaker 1: I talked to Carry, so let's fix it up, and
Speaker 1: very famously rude and interrupting. And I can accept that
Speaker 1: Brandon Marshall only had two targets until a last meeting,
Speaker 1: meaningless garbage time drive, but he was hardly the only
Speaker 1: problem there. Eli Manning wasn't protected. Well, they don't. They
Speaker 1: didn't have a great power running game. You have to
Speaker 1: give the Cowboys defense though, some credit. This wasn't a
Speaker 1: defense that we thought was gonna be able to just
Speaker 1: shut down just about any team. And Sean Lee, it's
Speaker 1: a reminder, when he's healthy and flying around those pass
Speaker 1: patterns and just making life difficult for opposing quarterbacks posing
Speaker 1: running backs, what a difference maker he can be. Eli
Speaker 1: Manning finished in the Gabbard zone just about five point
Speaker 1: seven yards per tenth. Paul Perkins, who you know a
Speaker 1: lot of people talk themselves into in fantasy drafts as
Speaker 1: an option. Maybe he will be, but not tonight. His
Speaker 1: long rush was three yards. Brandon Marshall. Yes, that one
Speaker 1: catch comes in garbage time and you're you're saying to yourself,
Speaker 1: you're a Giants fan right now, you're saying Odell Beckham,
Speaker 1: I know he's our best player, but again, it it
Speaker 1: hammers home for a team that hasn't scored more than
Speaker 1: twenty points and seven games now, seven straight games dating
Speaker 1: back to last December. Uh, there's something wrong with your
Speaker 1: offense fundamentally if your best player walks out and then
Speaker 1: you're just got nothing. And Marshall was supposed to have
Speaker 1: a chance to step up today and he disappeared. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and on the flip side in Dallas, des Bryant was
Speaker 1: largely kept out of the game until late late when
Speaker 1: he had a thirty five yard grab at one point
Speaker 1: nine targets two catches. I mean, we knew that was
Speaker 1: a possibility with New York secondary, but it wasn't as
Speaker 1: if Dallas had everyone operating at you know, high octane
Speaker 1: pace either. No. I think Dak Prescott had some really
Speaker 1: mature moments. He he was going against what I believe
Speaker 1: is one of the best secondaries, one of the best
Speaker 1: defense in the league. If you're the Giants, you have
Speaker 1: to be happy. If you can keep the Cowboys to
Speaker 1: nineteen points, you know they they did their job. But
Speaker 1: the Giants offense on the flip side, it really was
Speaker 1: a theme and I suspect it will be a one
Speaker 1: week blip. But I just went and I crunched the numbers. Daniel.
Speaker 1: While we're doing this, half of the league was under
Speaker 1: three hundred yards this week. Only one team in the
Speaker 1: league all of last season average under three hundred yards.
Speaker 1: That was Jeff Fisher's Rams. So for whatever reason, half
Speaker 1: the league this week we're like the two thousand sixteen Rams.
Speaker 1: I don't think that'll keep up. I don't know, I
Speaker 1: don't even want to have it. Probably I have a theory.
Speaker 1: I think over the off seas and teams got together
Speaker 1: and said how do we maximize our operation. We do
Speaker 1: what Jeff Fisher, who was taken out of the league
Speaker 1: last year. We're gonna do what he does on offense.
Speaker 1: That's the new mode. And yeah, this is the new
Speaker 1: football Jeff. It's the Jeff Fisher era in the NFL. UM. Yeah,
Speaker 1: with all this talk, Oh, we can't wait to see
Speaker 1: all the celebrations this year with the new relaxed rule. Well,
Speaker 1: nobody scores touchdowns on anymore, so you don't get any
Speaker 1: more celebrations. Get done fans, very grim. Put that on
Speaker 1: a T shirt slogan for the league day and I'll
Speaker 1: save us love those matchups. I think we'll get some
Speaker 1: good games. Yeah. So, so we have two more games
Speaker 1: to play, the Chargers at Denver and the Saints at Minnesota.
Speaker 1: The next time you hear from us will be on Tuesday.
Speaker 1: We'll we'll recap those games and have some more fun. Uh.
Speaker 1: Connie Fox will be back with us. UM. So that
Speaker 1: takes us to the end of our first UH Sunday show,
Speaker 1: the Flagship Show. So thank you to everyone. Show. We're
Speaker 1: listening post show. Great, you gotta knock. Oh I should
Speaker 1: before I say that, just because West isn't here and
Speaker 1: just like I had the honor of doing the top
Speaker 1: of the show after a Patriots meltdown, West not getting
Speaker 1: a chance to go crazy about Eli. Uh, let me
Speaker 1: just do a quick question. Eli Manning stinks he's the worst.
Speaker 1: You take away his best player. He's exposed. He is
Speaker 1: a terrible callter back. I love you, Chris Wesley. It's
Speaker 1: like game what he needed of his voice right now.
Speaker 1: It was like he was in the room. I'm sure
Speaker 1: West feels completely validated by then. All right, we'll be
Speaker 1: back on Tuesday with our video show. Dan Hanson signing
Speaker 1: off four Quiet Storm, Uh, Nick Shook, what a body? Uh,
Speaker 1: the Old Boss and Loose Canter behind the Glass till Tuesday.