1 00:00:00,600 --> 00:00:05,600 Speaker 1: The Around the NFL Podcast it's hoping to have its 2 00:00:05,680 --> 00:00:09,840 Speaker 1: fifth year option picked up. Welcome back to another dishod 3 00:00:09,920 --> 00:00:13,080 Speaker 1: the Around the NFL Podcast, presented by Head and Shoulders. 4 00:00:13,360 --> 00:00:15,440 Speaker 1: My name is Dan Hansus, and I'm joined by room 5 00:00:15,480 --> 00:00:18,800 Speaker 1: filled with some heroes. Mark Sessler to my left, Gregg 6 00:00:18,960 --> 00:00:23,119 Speaker 1: Rosenhal on my right. What's up? Boys? Forget hoping for 7 00:00:23,239 --> 00:00:25,479 Speaker 1: the fifth year option? This is it. This is the 8 00:00:25,480 --> 00:00:29,280 Speaker 1: fifth year. It's starting week one, the fifth year of 9 00:00:29,320 --> 00:00:35,479 Speaker 1: our flagship program, Sunday Night Recaps. We're here mark another 10 00:00:35,760 --> 00:00:37,479 Speaker 1: year for you, and I mark our seventh year he 11 00:00:37,520 --> 00:00:41,120 Speaker 1: at the NFL and our fifth year doing this little shebang. Yeah, 12 00:00:41,159 --> 00:00:43,400 Speaker 1: I mean I I don't understand this fifth year option 13 00:00:43,479 --> 00:00:45,720 Speaker 1: talk either. We've got an extended deal at this point, 14 00:00:45,720 --> 00:00:48,480 Speaker 1: and you pull the plug tonight before we wrap the show. Yeah, 15 00:00:48,560 --> 00:00:50,159 Speaker 1: let us. Let's hope that doesn't happen, because if I 16 00:00:50,240 --> 00:00:51,680 Speaker 1: knew they were hanging that over us, I would have 17 00:00:51,960 --> 00:00:54,600 Speaker 1: staged a holdout of some kind, made a huge stink, 18 00:00:54,880 --> 00:00:57,560 Speaker 1: worked with the media, back channels with different insiders, and 19 00:00:57,640 --> 00:01:02,360 Speaker 1: caused a whole ruckus. Well, I mean, we've built up 20 00:01:02,360 --> 00:01:04,920 Speaker 1: this Sunday Night show to the point speaking to my 21 00:01:04,959 --> 00:01:09,920 Speaker 1: mom this morning on her fiftieth wedding anniversary Rosenthals. She 22 00:01:10,080 --> 00:01:12,840 Speaker 1: called it, well, I'll listen to your flagship show tomorrow. 23 00:01:12,880 --> 00:01:16,680 Speaker 1: She called it the Pashal in a big spot. Congratulations 24 00:01:16,680 --> 00:01:19,640 Speaker 1: to the Rosies. That's a nice that's an incredible achievement. 25 00:01:19,680 --> 00:01:23,560 Speaker 1: What is that silver believe it may even be more 26 00:01:23,560 --> 00:01:26,880 Speaker 1: than that ative. You gotta plug in on this one, Greggy. 27 00:01:27,160 --> 00:01:30,039 Speaker 1: What I'm assuming you purchased a gift some flowers. You 28 00:01:30,040 --> 00:01:32,240 Speaker 1: know they're gonna be here. This I mean beyond flowers. 29 00:01:32,240 --> 00:01:34,480 Speaker 1: I'm sure you did something to to marvel and show 30 00:01:34,520 --> 00:01:37,680 Speaker 1: your appreciation. Just shout out on one of the best 31 00:01:37,680 --> 00:01:41,320 Speaker 1: podcasts that has very little cache. Let's get back. Let's 32 00:01:41,360 --> 00:01:44,240 Speaker 1: get back on script because that's why it's the Sunday 33 00:01:44,280 --> 00:01:48,000 Speaker 1: Flagship Show. Because we talked about every game that occurred 34 00:01:48,040 --> 00:01:52,640 Speaker 1: on Sunday in this week one UH from the early 35 00:01:52,720 --> 00:01:56,320 Speaker 1: kickoff straight through Sunday Night football, the Giants and the 36 00:01:56,360 --> 00:01:59,240 Speaker 1: Cowboys in Jaral World, and it was it was a 37 00:01:59,280 --> 00:02:02,240 Speaker 1: week one j M in UH where there were some 38 00:02:02,320 --> 00:02:06,120 Speaker 1: surprises there always are, but also maybe not as not 39 00:02:06,160 --> 00:02:09,600 Speaker 1: as much sizzle. Maybe I was expecting some fireworks, some 40 00:02:09,680 --> 00:02:12,640 Speaker 1: crazy things happening. There was things to learn, but it 41 00:02:12,680 --> 00:02:14,919 Speaker 1: wasn't blown away. Let's put it that way. I felt 42 00:02:14,919 --> 00:02:16,840 Speaker 1: that way. But I also would point to the fact 43 00:02:16,880 --> 00:02:20,639 Speaker 1: that we have to Monday night games that look enticing 44 00:02:20,680 --> 00:02:22,919 Speaker 1: in these weeks when they start a little slow, usually 45 00:02:23,000 --> 00:02:25,440 Speaker 1: round out with a lot of drama. League. Well, it 46 00:02:25,560 --> 00:02:28,560 Speaker 1: was the most one score games in NFL history last year, 47 00:02:28,639 --> 00:02:31,360 Speaker 1: and there were only out of the early games, you know, 48 00:02:31,400 --> 00:02:33,519 Speaker 1: before the Sunday night game, only three one score games, 49 00:02:33,520 --> 00:02:36,200 Speaker 1: so they weren't a lot of close finishes as you mentioned. Alright, 50 00:02:36,280 --> 00:02:38,160 Speaker 1: so we got so much to get to we should 51 00:02:38,200 --> 00:02:41,640 Speaker 1: just do it. Um So. Erica, by the way, welcome 52 00:02:41,639 --> 00:02:46,280 Speaker 1: to your first flagship program any butterflies. Sure, couple, Erica 53 00:02:46,320 --> 00:02:50,600 Speaker 1: is still dead inside after Thursday Night's results. He's I'm 54 00:02:50,639 --> 00:02:52,880 Speaker 1: doing I like that. I find out if you get 55 00:02:52,919 --> 00:02:55,639 Speaker 1: snarky with her on Twitter about the Patriots, she will 56 00:02:55,680 --> 00:02:59,480 Speaker 1: come right back at you with fire. Alright, Erica, let's 57 00:02:59,520 --> 00:03:03,560 Speaker 1: get in to the action. Another season's here. There's glory 58 00:03:03,600 --> 00:03:07,120 Speaker 1: in the legends of this hard muscle life, and there's 59 00:03:07,240 --> 00:03:12,440 Speaker 1: poetry in each season made of sweat and strife, winds, 60 00:03:12,480 --> 00:03:16,760 Speaker 1: whisper of high hopes, victory, is in the skies. A 61 00:03:16,919 --> 00:03:22,320 Speaker 1: season awaits with glory in her eyes. One joins with 62 00:03:22,440 --> 00:03:27,519 Speaker 1: many on summer's green field. Time to strive, to dare 63 00:03:28,320 --> 00:03:33,400 Speaker 1: for all not to yield. Now that doesn't get too excited, 64 00:03:33,960 --> 00:03:38,720 Speaker 1: slightly over dramatic, but I'll accept it. Let's settle down 65 00:03:38,800 --> 00:03:42,280 Speaker 1: just a little bit, sir again, faced in the ground, 66 00:03:42,440 --> 00:03:46,000 Speaker 1: cannot defend himself. Well, beautiful work by John Paci and 67 00:03:46,080 --> 00:03:50,040 Speaker 1: Sam Spence, of course, with the music, classic stuff. All right, Okay, 68 00:03:50,040 --> 00:03:51,960 Speaker 1: we can get rid of it as much as I 69 00:03:52,000 --> 00:03:55,640 Speaker 1: respect it. Like Mark, it has its time. All right, 70 00:03:55,720 --> 00:03:58,400 Speaker 1: Let's get into it, and we'll start with a game 71 00:03:58,440 --> 00:04:02,200 Speaker 1: at lambeau Field, pitting two NFC superpowers against each other 72 00:04:02,320 --> 00:04:05,240 Speaker 1: once more. Now the Packers in the catchain with two 73 00:04:05,240 --> 00:04:07,800 Speaker 1: many guys in the field, Rogers takes the snap. The 74 00:04:07,840 --> 00:04:10,880 Speaker 1: flag does come in, so Rogers has a free shirt 75 00:04:10,960 --> 00:04:13,600 Speaker 1: and he flows it over the middle and took plates 76 00:04:13,600 --> 00:04:17,880 Speaker 1: into the end zone. Touch Shorty Nelson a thirty two 77 00:04:17,960 --> 00:04:23,159 Speaker 1: yards strike touchdown Green Bay. Aaron Rodgers third quarter touchdown 78 00:04:23,200 --> 00:04:25,680 Speaker 1: hook up with Jordy Nelson gave the Packers some breathing room, 79 00:04:25,720 --> 00:04:28,520 Speaker 1: and Green Bay swarming defense did the rest. A seventeen 80 00:04:28,839 --> 00:04:32,400 Speaker 1: to nine win over the Seattle Seahawks. Uh, guys, this 81 00:04:32,480 --> 00:04:35,520 Speaker 1: is a game that could have huge playoff ramifications down 82 00:04:35,520 --> 00:04:39,279 Speaker 1: the line, and appropriately it had that feel of January football. Uh. 83 00:04:39,360 --> 00:04:43,400 Speaker 1: Two great teams going at it um. The defenses certainly 84 00:04:43,400 --> 00:04:45,600 Speaker 1: seemed like they were ahead of the offenses in this game. 85 00:04:45,760 --> 00:04:47,360 Speaker 1: Maybe if this game was played a couple of months 86 00:04:47,360 --> 00:04:49,120 Speaker 1: from now, it would be a little different the feel 87 00:04:49,160 --> 00:04:51,120 Speaker 1: of it. But this was about defense. But at the end, 88 00:04:51,160 --> 00:04:53,200 Speaker 1: at the end of the day, Aaron Rodgers made the 89 00:04:53,200 --> 00:04:55,680 Speaker 1: plays he needed and that's now three straight wins for 90 00:04:55,760 --> 00:04:59,159 Speaker 1: Rogers over the Seahawks in as many years. Greg, what 91 00:04:59,279 --> 00:05:02,560 Speaker 1: were your take ways from this game? A really good game, 92 00:05:02,600 --> 00:05:04,800 Speaker 1: maybe not a classic, but a nice game to start 93 00:05:04,800 --> 00:05:08,839 Speaker 1: the season. That the last time we saw the Packers defense, 94 00:05:09,279 --> 00:05:14,039 Speaker 1: they were getting filled in back to back playoff performances 95 00:05:14,120 --> 00:05:17,320 Speaker 1: and they worked hard to shore up that secondary. But 96 00:05:17,400 --> 00:05:19,880 Speaker 1: it was really the front seven and the last two 97 00:05:19,880 --> 00:05:22,800 Speaker 1: guys that got big time extensions from the Packers. Mike 98 00:05:22,880 --> 00:05:26,280 Speaker 1: Daniels and Nick Perry were dominating this game. I think 99 00:05:26,320 --> 00:05:28,560 Speaker 1: Connor Or put in our right up and and I 100 00:05:28,640 --> 00:05:31,160 Speaker 1: totally agree Mike Daniels deserves the game ball. I mean, 101 00:05:31,200 --> 00:05:34,760 Speaker 1: he wrecked this Seattle offensive line, But you have to 102 00:05:34,800 --> 00:05:36,920 Speaker 1: wonder about who was on the other side of the field. 103 00:05:36,920 --> 00:05:40,560 Speaker 1: After hearing NonStop about what the Seahawks offensive line is 104 00:05:40,560 --> 00:05:44,520 Speaker 1: gonna do all offseason, they had a worst case scenario 105 00:05:44,600 --> 00:05:47,240 Speaker 1: performance and really didn't give their team a chance to win. 106 00:05:47,560 --> 00:05:50,479 Speaker 1: I come out of this concerned for Seattle because the 107 00:05:50,560 --> 00:05:54,120 Speaker 1: offensive line has been an issue forever and it held 108 00:05:54,160 --> 00:05:56,719 Speaker 1: them back last year, and it also it curtailed Russell 109 00:05:56,760 --> 00:06:00,600 Speaker 1: Wilson's season in terms of his health. Though Seattle year 110 00:06:00,640 --> 00:06:03,719 Speaker 1: after year seems to figure themselves out on offense about 111 00:06:03,720 --> 00:06:06,480 Speaker 1: a month into the season, if not later, sometimes completely 112 00:06:06,480 --> 00:06:09,400 Speaker 1: shifting their identity by mid mid years. It's some it's 113 00:06:09,400 --> 00:06:12,320 Speaker 1: some cases. So do we really take away from this 114 00:06:12,440 --> 00:06:14,719 Speaker 1: anything other than it's a it's a rugged, rugged loss 115 00:06:14,720 --> 00:06:16,200 Speaker 1: on the road for a team that we trust to 116 00:06:16,200 --> 00:06:18,880 Speaker 1: bounce back. I don't put too much into the loss. 117 00:06:18,920 --> 00:06:20,640 Speaker 1: It was hard fought and they just came out out 118 00:06:20,680 --> 00:06:23,720 Speaker 1: on the losing end. Three years ago, um, I believe 119 00:06:23,720 --> 00:06:25,479 Speaker 1: it was three years ago. I was in Seattle for 120 00:06:25,560 --> 00:06:29,560 Speaker 1: their kickoff game against the Packers, and that was in 121 00:06:30,040 --> 00:06:32,080 Speaker 1: a Century Link field and it was the same type 122 00:06:32,080 --> 00:06:34,000 Speaker 1: of vibe where it's like it's kind of like your 123 00:06:34,000 --> 00:06:36,119 Speaker 1: a little torn because it's a great game to start 124 00:06:36,120 --> 00:06:38,320 Speaker 1: the season, and that was the first game of the 125 00:06:38,320 --> 00:06:41,279 Speaker 1: game season period on Thursday night. But at the same time, 126 00:06:41,560 --> 00:06:45,000 Speaker 1: these two teams, if they finished tied now at top 127 00:06:45,080 --> 00:06:47,120 Speaker 1: the standings in terms of one loss in the NFC, 128 00:06:47,560 --> 00:06:50,520 Speaker 1: the an NFC title game could be in lambeau Field, 129 00:06:50,720 --> 00:06:53,279 Speaker 1: and they and now the Seattle Seahawks have to actually 130 00:06:53,320 --> 00:06:55,200 Speaker 1: finish ahead of them by a full game in the 131 00:06:55,240 --> 00:06:58,120 Speaker 1: standings to to finish out ahead in a tiebreaker scenario. 132 00:06:58,360 --> 00:07:00,040 Speaker 1: You almost wish this game is a little deeper in 133 00:07:00,080 --> 00:07:01,840 Speaker 1: the season when the teams are a little more worked out, 134 00:07:01,839 --> 00:07:04,720 Speaker 1: because it has so much on the line. It does, 135 00:07:05,560 --> 00:07:08,720 Speaker 1: But the Seahawks are a team, as Mark mentioned, that 136 00:07:08,920 --> 00:07:11,160 Speaker 1: tries to figure things out. This isn't just a bad 137 00:07:11,200 --> 00:07:14,440 Speaker 1: offensive performance. I mean they had about twenty five yards 138 00:07:14,760 --> 00:07:17,440 Speaker 1: through their first five drives. I mean they couldn't five 139 00:07:17,480 --> 00:07:20,720 Speaker 1: punst open the game right, They couldn't operate an offense 140 00:07:20,760 --> 00:07:22,640 Speaker 1: at all. I think the better team ended up winning, 141 00:07:22,640 --> 00:07:25,040 Speaker 1: even though it was close in the score. The Packers 142 00:07:25,040 --> 00:07:27,560 Speaker 1: were doubling them up in terms of yard yardage. I 143 00:07:27,640 --> 00:07:29,520 Speaker 1: think the Packers had to be a little worried about 144 00:07:29,520 --> 00:07:31,320 Speaker 1: their offensive line. But the good news for them is 145 00:07:31,400 --> 00:07:34,880 Speaker 1: David back tr who is very noticeable by his absence. 146 00:07:35,240 --> 00:07:38,240 Speaker 1: You know, we'll be back. He'll he'll help shore up 147 00:07:38,280 --> 00:07:40,880 Speaker 1: that line. I think the fact that the Packers could 148 00:07:40,880 --> 00:07:43,520 Speaker 1: move the ball when they absolutely needed to late in 149 00:07:43,560 --> 00:07:45,640 Speaker 1: the game and have some sustained drives, they have to 150 00:07:45,640 --> 00:07:47,840 Speaker 1: feel really good that they can win these types of games. 151 00:07:48,560 --> 00:07:50,679 Speaker 1: I wonder, you know, one of the questions for Seattle 152 00:07:50,720 --> 00:07:53,040 Speaker 1: they didn't have Thomas Rowles this week was how the 153 00:07:53,080 --> 00:07:55,680 Speaker 1: backfield would shake out, And it looks to me like 154 00:07:55,800 --> 00:07:57,760 Speaker 1: Eddie Lacey does not have a major role on this 155 00:07:57,800 --> 00:07:59,720 Speaker 1: team at all. He should have had. If he doesn't 156 00:07:59,720 --> 00:08:01,920 Speaker 1: have made role in this game, it makes you wonder 157 00:08:02,120 --> 00:08:04,320 Speaker 1: how high they really are. Chris Carson, the rookie, is 158 00:08:04,360 --> 00:08:06,720 Speaker 1: getting more action than him. Russell Wilson leads the team 159 00:08:06,720 --> 00:08:10,080 Speaker 1: in rushing today. Right right. Thomas Rawls was inactive for 160 00:08:10,080 --> 00:08:12,280 Speaker 1: this game. We didn't know that going into it, and 161 00:08:12,360 --> 00:08:16,240 Speaker 1: I do believe that Chris Carson ended up getting more 162 00:08:16,480 --> 00:08:20,560 Speaker 1: snaps than Lacey. Lacey had seven snaps in this game, 163 00:08:20,720 --> 00:08:23,800 Speaker 1: and we didn't hear that he was hurt. Maybe maybe 164 00:08:23,800 --> 00:08:26,520 Speaker 1: something else will come out, but that that's troubling. So 165 00:08:26,560 --> 00:08:28,160 Speaker 1: you have a couple of things working against you. If 166 00:08:28,160 --> 00:08:31,080 Speaker 1: you're Russell Wilson, now you have no protection and you 167 00:08:31,240 --> 00:08:34,079 Speaker 1: are figuring out the running game as you go. Maybe 168 00:08:34,120 --> 00:08:36,760 Speaker 1: the Packers defense is better than we think. They'd certainly 169 00:08:36,800 --> 00:08:38,719 Speaker 1: have talented players up front, but that that's a tough 170 00:08:38,760 --> 00:08:43,640 Speaker 1: way to start. All right, boys, let's move on. Gonna 171 00:08:43,640 --> 00:08:51,760 Speaker 1: throw it for the answer town Preaders Seth Roberts popped 172 00:08:51,800 --> 00:08:54,640 Speaker 1: in right away. Is they quick snapped them, came back 173 00:08:54,760 --> 00:08:57,680 Speaker 1: up on the ball and Seth Roberts doesn't again in 174 00:08:57,800 --> 00:09:00,640 Speaker 1: Music City and they ran four verticals that time. Partner, 175 00:09:00,679 --> 00:09:03,040 Speaker 1: you watch all the receivers going out, not waiting on 176 00:09:03,040 --> 00:09:05,840 Speaker 1: the backside. Throw Seth Roberts right on the second level 177 00:09:06,160 --> 00:09:08,800 Speaker 1: beats the Tennessee Titans before a touchdown. Now, I'm not 178 00:09:08,880 --> 00:09:12,720 Speaker 1: saying that is worthy of a top ten calls the seen. 179 00:09:12,760 --> 00:09:15,920 Speaker 1: Far from it, I would hope. But Erica Louis Cannon, 180 00:09:15,920 --> 00:09:19,240 Speaker 1: you're new to the show. Uh, we got at tractees. Whatever, 181 00:09:19,360 --> 00:09:21,400 Speaker 1: great calls from the We like going with the radio 182 00:09:21,480 --> 00:09:24,000 Speaker 1: calls because we like the local guys. Some of them 183 00:09:24,040 --> 00:09:27,439 Speaker 1: are literally insane people, and we lean on that insanity 184 00:09:27,520 --> 00:09:31,120 Speaker 1: and we thrive on it as a clip that was 185 00:09:31,160 --> 00:09:36,000 Speaker 1: not a top ten clip, but that Raiders call that spice. 186 00:09:36,920 --> 00:09:41,240 Speaker 1: That's Papa, his best Papa being Papa, I pop be 187 00:09:41,800 --> 00:09:44,600 Speaker 1: Derek Carr through two touchdowns, including the go ahead score 188 00:09:44,679 --> 00:09:47,560 Speaker 1: you heard to Seth Roberts as the Oakland Raiders went 189 00:09:47,600 --> 00:09:50,360 Speaker 1: on the road to beat the Tennessee Titoons You heard 190 00:09:50,400 --> 00:09:55,080 Speaker 1: meteen in Nashville, Greg. This felt like an opportunity for 191 00:09:55,120 --> 00:09:57,360 Speaker 1: the Titans to announce themselves as an a f C 192 00:09:57,480 --> 00:10:00,439 Speaker 1: power player, but the Raiders instead gave everyone m under 193 00:10:00,480 --> 00:10:03,160 Speaker 1: that they're already in the club. They they are, and 194 00:10:03,200 --> 00:10:06,160 Speaker 1: they're a year ahead of the Titans in their development. 195 00:10:06,280 --> 00:10:08,560 Speaker 1: And I thought this was a really well played game. 196 00:10:08,679 --> 00:10:11,960 Speaker 1: Some sloppy performances around Week one, a lot of people complaining, 197 00:10:12,160 --> 00:10:14,640 Speaker 1: go go watch. This game wasn't a barn burner at 198 00:10:14,640 --> 00:10:16,360 Speaker 1: the end because the Raiders were too good and they 199 00:10:16,360 --> 00:10:18,640 Speaker 1: put it away. But these were two really good teams, 200 00:10:19,280 --> 00:10:22,120 Speaker 1: very evenly matched. But the differences the Raiders have been 201 00:10:22,160 --> 00:10:23,839 Speaker 1: there and these are This is kind of the win 202 00:10:23,960 --> 00:10:25,920 Speaker 1: we were looking for last year. A lot of times 203 00:10:25,920 --> 00:10:28,480 Speaker 1: where the Raiders didn't convincingly win. It felt like they 204 00:10:28,520 --> 00:10:31,520 Speaker 1: got a little lucky. This was complete and the two 205 00:10:31,559 --> 00:10:36,000 Speaker 1: guys that they added on offense, Marshawn Lynch and Jared Cook, 206 00:10:36,280 --> 00:10:40,520 Speaker 1: could make a huge difference. This was already a great offense, 207 00:10:40,840 --> 00:10:44,520 Speaker 1: and they upgraded at two positions of need. I thought 208 00:10:44,520 --> 00:10:46,960 Speaker 1: Marshawn Lynch looked fantastic. I was gonna say, does he 209 00:10:47,080 --> 00:10:50,559 Speaker 1: look like Marshall Lynch of two thousand, let's say fourteen? Yes, 210 00:10:50,640 --> 00:10:53,400 Speaker 1: the numbers didn't pop off in terms of the box score. 211 00:10:53,400 --> 00:10:55,520 Speaker 1: I think he got almost a hundred yards from scrimmage, 212 00:10:55,520 --> 00:10:59,440 Speaker 1: so very solid. But he's breaking tackles. He got a 213 00:10:59,480 --> 00:11:02,880 Speaker 1: fourth in short near the goal line where most running 214 00:11:02,880 --> 00:11:05,920 Speaker 1: backs would have been taken out. He ran over Darrell Casey, 215 00:11:05,920 --> 00:11:08,839 Speaker 1: who's three hundred and five pounds, and just knocked him 216 00:11:08,840 --> 00:11:11,640 Speaker 1: back on a totally different play. I thought he looked great. 217 00:11:11,720 --> 00:11:14,760 Speaker 1: He's the guy Seattle could have used today because he 218 00:11:14,840 --> 00:11:17,800 Speaker 1: looked to me, it's a great points like the youthful 219 00:11:17,880 --> 00:11:20,360 Speaker 1: runner of four or five years ago, not just the 220 00:11:20,520 --> 00:11:23,120 Speaker 1: guy from two seasons ago in Seattle, and they tried 221 00:11:23,160 --> 00:11:25,800 Speaker 1: to give him some rest. He he you know, was 222 00:11:25,840 --> 00:11:28,040 Speaker 1: out every third month five or so. They used DeAndre 223 00:11:28,160 --> 00:11:30,679 Speaker 1: Washington and Jalen re Shard a lot, and yet at 224 00:11:30,679 --> 00:11:32,960 Speaker 1: the end when they needed to close the game out, 225 00:11:33,280 --> 00:11:35,960 Speaker 1: they went with Lynch and they killed the clock and 226 00:11:35,960 --> 00:11:38,400 Speaker 1: they basically turned a really good game into a sleeper 227 00:11:38,640 --> 00:11:40,560 Speaker 1: just because they held onto the ball. And you know, 228 00:11:40,720 --> 00:11:44,120 Speaker 1: I kind of kid, but I'm serious. You know, Tennessee, 229 00:11:44,160 --> 00:11:45,640 Speaker 1: it was. It was a whole off season. There's so 230 00:11:45,720 --> 00:11:47,800 Speaker 1: much football to play. Obviously, I'm not saying now the 231 00:11:47,800 --> 00:11:50,600 Speaker 1: Titans are done or something, but you know, you're at 232 00:11:50,640 --> 00:11:53,079 Speaker 1: home and you're starting a season and it's been talked 233 00:11:53,120 --> 00:11:54,840 Speaker 1: up a lot that they're now ready to make this 234 00:11:55,120 --> 00:11:57,360 Speaker 1: big play and then you let big brother come in 235 00:11:57,400 --> 00:11:59,480 Speaker 1: and take care of business. It's disappointing. You have to 236 00:11:59,480 --> 00:12:01,959 Speaker 1: be this point is the Titans. I am annoyed because 237 00:12:02,280 --> 00:12:05,760 Speaker 1: I thought the Tennessee would see this as a comprehensive 238 00:12:05,840 --> 00:12:10,840 Speaker 1: statement game I forgot about. Yeah, this one. I locked 239 00:12:10,840 --> 00:12:12,559 Speaker 1: this up. I would say that I locked it up. 240 00:12:12,640 --> 00:12:14,200 Speaker 1: You know, you could not do less of a of 241 00:12:14,240 --> 00:12:16,640 Speaker 1: a positive job out of the gate in Week one 242 00:12:16,760 --> 00:12:19,599 Speaker 1: then to latch onto a team that ran into a buzz. So, 243 00:12:19,720 --> 00:12:21,400 Speaker 1: I mean, listen, the one thing you could say about 244 00:12:21,400 --> 00:12:23,240 Speaker 1: Tennessee is they're not going to meet the Raiders every week. 245 00:12:23,440 --> 00:12:26,040 Speaker 1: The dead bolt did not turn. It did not turn. 246 00:12:26,080 --> 00:12:28,319 Speaker 1: There were a lot of positives. Corey Davis was out 247 00:12:28,360 --> 00:12:31,360 Speaker 1: there look good. Overall. I think they were fine. Who 248 00:12:31,440 --> 00:12:32,760 Speaker 1: they got next week? I put you guys on the 249 00:12:32,760 --> 00:12:36,240 Speaker 1: spot as I can find that out in one second. Baby, 250 00:12:36,240 --> 00:12:39,080 Speaker 1: you gotta win a ball game next week. Next week. 251 00:12:39,120 --> 00:12:41,439 Speaker 1: The Patriots. No, I'm kidding. They do not have the Patriots. 252 00:12:41,480 --> 00:12:43,800 Speaker 1: They had, well, they have the Jacksonville Jaguars. Then after 253 00:12:43,840 --> 00:12:46,280 Speaker 1: that they had the Seahawks and the Texans, and I know, 254 00:12:46,400 --> 00:12:48,679 Speaker 1: I know, we gotta move on. But one last thing, 255 00:12:48,800 --> 00:12:51,320 Speaker 1: my you know, one game ball today goes to Georgio 256 00:12:51,480 --> 00:12:55,000 Speaker 1: to Vecchio, the new Raiders kicker. Get excited. The first 257 00:12:55,040 --> 00:12:57,640 Speaker 1: Italian born player in the NFL and more than forty 258 00:12:57,720 --> 00:13:00,720 Speaker 1: years he put the opening kickoff through of the uprights. 259 00:13:00,800 --> 00:13:03,840 Speaker 1: You don't see that too often. He hit to fifty yarders, 260 00:13:03,840 --> 00:13:06,520 Speaker 1: first time in NFL history a rookie kicker ever did that. 261 00:13:06,559 --> 00:13:09,960 Speaker 1: There has been a lot of an understated anti Sea 262 00:13:10,040 --> 00:13:12,440 Speaker 1: Bass sentiment coming from Greg and I think it's because 263 00:13:12,440 --> 00:13:15,360 Speaker 1: he's the last player from that Tom Brady draft class 264 00:13:15,360 --> 00:13:17,960 Speaker 1: and Greg wants zero competition. He wants him out of there, 265 00:13:18,080 --> 00:13:20,000 Speaker 1: telling you this kid was booming it all right. Well, see, 266 00:13:20,000 --> 00:13:22,520 Speaker 1: Bass will probably not be coming back this year. But Greg, 267 00:13:22,760 --> 00:13:24,679 Speaker 1: I thought that game ball was gonna go to Tony Romo. 268 00:13:24,760 --> 00:13:27,040 Speaker 1: I thought you were that. I forgot about that. Maybe 269 00:13:27,040 --> 00:13:29,120 Speaker 1: we'll save it for Tuesday, But you were very happy 270 00:13:29,160 --> 00:13:31,840 Speaker 1: with Tony Romo is already one of, if not the 271 00:13:31,880 --> 00:13:35,040 Speaker 1: top color analysts, and business loved him. Look at that. 272 00:13:35,160 --> 00:13:37,080 Speaker 1: I can't wait to watch this game and I'll see 273 00:13:37,080 --> 00:13:40,559 Speaker 1: if I concur with you or violently disagree. Let's keep moving. 274 00:13:41,360 --> 00:13:43,120 Speaker 1: Could be the last player of the game. Fourth and 275 00:13:43,120 --> 00:13:47,320 Speaker 1: goal four on the play talks Napthter Glennon he'll step 276 00:13:47,440 --> 00:13:54,520 Speaker 1: up in trouble. Brooks Rate sucks him, brooks Read gets 277 00:13:54,559 --> 00:13:58,040 Speaker 1: another suck, and Atlanta is going to win for the 278 00:13:58,120 --> 00:14:02,840 Speaker 1: first time since nineteen eight three. Soldier Field, the Falcons 279 00:14:02,880 --> 00:14:04,920 Speaker 1: got the type of stop they could not manage at 280 00:14:04,960 --> 00:14:06,960 Speaker 1: the end of Super Bowl fifty one, and Matt Ryan 281 00:14:07,040 --> 00:14:11,080 Speaker 1: led to fourth quarters scoring drives. The result seen road 282 00:14:11,080 --> 00:14:14,600 Speaker 1: win over the Chicago Bears. A Soldier Field Mark Sessler. 283 00:14:14,679 --> 00:14:16,600 Speaker 1: This was not easy, but the Falcons found a way 284 00:14:16,600 --> 00:14:19,080 Speaker 1: to finish but in just a little more distance between 285 00:14:19,120 --> 00:14:22,320 Speaker 1: themselves and the events of the first Sunday in February, 286 00:14:22,360 --> 00:14:25,360 Speaker 1: they did and an uncomfortable and uh, you know, I'd 287 00:14:25,400 --> 00:14:28,640 Speaker 1: say disturbing finish for Bears fans. You have first and 288 00:14:28,680 --> 00:14:31,920 Speaker 1: goal at the Falcons five, and you've hung in a 289 00:14:31,960 --> 00:14:34,320 Speaker 1: game that many people thought would have equated to a 290 00:14:34,320 --> 00:14:37,760 Speaker 1: massive slaughter in week one, and quite the opposite. They 291 00:14:37,840 --> 00:14:40,640 Speaker 1: hung around. You've got three shots at the end zone, 292 00:14:41,040 --> 00:14:43,560 Speaker 1: three straight in completions, and it was not on Mike Glenn. 293 00:14:43,560 --> 00:14:46,440 Speaker 1: And this final chance here is wide outs and that's, 294 00:14:46,880 --> 00:14:48,680 Speaker 1: you know, an area of weakness for the for the 295 00:14:48,720 --> 00:14:51,040 Speaker 1: Bears could not get the job done. They had their 296 00:14:51,080 --> 00:14:53,400 Speaker 1: hands on these passes and dropped them. Mark knows it. 297 00:14:53,640 --> 00:14:56,000 Speaker 1: I know it as a Jets fan. The difference between 298 00:14:56,400 --> 00:14:59,920 Speaker 1: good teams, average teams, and bad teams is that idiot 299 00:15:00,240 --> 00:15:04,360 Speaker 1: either any little bit of playmaking ability when it really counts, 300 00:15:04,400 --> 00:15:07,240 Speaker 1: And they could have easily scored twice, maybe even three 301 00:15:07,320 --> 00:15:09,480 Speaker 1: times in that final drive and nobody can make a 302 00:15:09,560 --> 00:15:12,760 Speaker 1: play when it counted, and and and the end, end game, 303 00:15:12,800 --> 00:15:15,760 Speaker 1: Greg is the Falcons get a little bit lucky. Let's 304 00:15:15,760 --> 00:15:17,920 Speaker 1: be honest, if if somebody steps up and makes a play. 305 00:15:18,120 --> 00:15:22,160 Speaker 1: You're staring at a dreadful three loss and a week 306 00:15:22,200 --> 00:15:25,160 Speaker 1: of being told or the Falcons, you know, do they 307 00:15:25,160 --> 00:15:28,040 Speaker 1: have something wrong with them emotionally? You can't close that. Instead, 308 00:15:28,040 --> 00:15:30,080 Speaker 1: they get to not worry about that and keep moving 309 00:15:30,080 --> 00:15:32,760 Speaker 1: at one and oh, well, we've said we expect their 310 00:15:32,800 --> 00:15:35,960 Speaker 1: offense to come back to the pack and they have 311 00:15:36,000 --> 00:15:38,440 Speaker 1: three seventy yards. I think it gives some credit to 312 00:15:38,480 --> 00:15:40,720 Speaker 1: the Bears defense, who's gonna which is gonna be better 313 00:15:40,800 --> 00:15:43,680 Speaker 1: than we expect. But these were games last year that 314 00:15:43,720 --> 00:15:46,400 Speaker 1: they won a little easier, I think last year. And 315 00:15:46,440 --> 00:15:49,320 Speaker 1: there are always these teams that they suddenly just completely 316 00:15:49,400 --> 00:15:52,160 Speaker 1: hit and find their groove and move into this sort 317 00:15:52,200 --> 00:15:54,600 Speaker 1: of the shift in this unstoppable mode. And you can't 318 00:15:54,640 --> 00:15:57,120 Speaker 1: ask Atlanta to do that year after year. They're not 319 00:15:57,200 --> 00:16:00,040 Speaker 1: that team. They look more like the Falcons of a 320 00:16:00,040 --> 00:16:02,080 Speaker 1: fle of years ago. And what do we see from 321 00:16:02,080 --> 00:16:06,960 Speaker 1: Mike Lennon? I thought Glennan, like, listen, they they what 322 00:16:07,080 --> 00:16:09,200 Speaker 1: they have. What they have in their arsenal is a 323 00:16:09,280 --> 00:16:12,480 Speaker 1: fascinating pair of running backs in Jordan Howard and the 324 00:16:12,560 --> 00:16:16,080 Speaker 1: rookie Tariko, And I guess electric today was absolutely electric. 325 00:16:16,640 --> 00:16:19,480 Speaker 1: Mike Lennon is hindered by the fact that they have 326 00:16:19,560 --> 00:16:21,200 Speaker 1: no weapons for him to throw do. But he was 327 00:16:21,240 --> 00:16:23,760 Speaker 1: not a disaster today. It was not the Glennon that 328 00:16:23,760 --> 00:16:26,600 Speaker 1: we would have put into a game script where suddenly 329 00:16:26,600 --> 00:16:28,360 Speaker 1: they're gonna be calling for his job. This was not 330 00:16:28,440 --> 00:16:30,880 Speaker 1: on him alone. Like it's it's good and bad news 331 00:16:30,960 --> 00:16:34,480 Speaker 1: that Tarik Cohen is your leading receiver and you're leading rusher. 332 00:16:34,560 --> 00:16:37,560 Speaker 1: I think they found something, but it's it's also you 333 00:16:37,560 --> 00:16:40,920 Speaker 1: want more playmakers. Kevin White, who was a top ten pick, 334 00:16:41,600 --> 00:16:44,600 Speaker 1: is gonna miss the rest of the season well, and 335 00:16:44,680 --> 00:16:46,840 Speaker 1: you have to wonder what his career leads to after that. 336 00:16:46,840 --> 00:16:49,800 Speaker 1: That's at least the expectation. They believe he suffered a 337 00:16:49,840 --> 00:16:53,360 Speaker 1: broken collar bone. According to our NFL Network insider uh 338 00:16:53,400 --> 00:16:56,560 Speaker 1: Ian Rappaport, he's played five career games and they're gonna 339 00:16:56,600 --> 00:17:00,200 Speaker 1: be starting, you know, Josh Balamy and Deontay tom Sin 340 00:17:00,280 --> 00:17:02,480 Speaker 1: and Kendall Right, that's tough. Do you like their defense? 341 00:17:02,600 --> 00:17:04,560 Speaker 1: I think Chicago Cal could win off, you know, win 342 00:17:04,640 --> 00:17:07,159 Speaker 1: six seven games this season to do and I listen, 343 00:17:07,520 --> 00:17:11,199 Speaker 1: if you or every show listener of the Around the 344 00:17:11,359 --> 00:17:13,960 Speaker 1: NFL podcast, you could have Torecon on your roster right now. 345 00:17:14,200 --> 00:17:16,719 Speaker 1: We told you be on the lookout for this guy, 346 00:17:16,760 --> 00:17:18,399 Speaker 1: and he went over a hundred toty yards. He's a 347 00:17:18,440 --> 00:17:20,479 Speaker 1: nice little weapon for him. Let's see if they can 348 00:17:20,520 --> 00:17:22,360 Speaker 1: build off that, because that gives him a nice little 349 00:17:22,400 --> 00:17:26,240 Speaker 1: tandem back there. But no win on Sunday. Let's keep 350 00:17:26,240 --> 00:17:29,240 Speaker 1: moving Stafford up under center, single back as a mirror. 351 00:17:30,359 --> 00:17:32,720 Speaker 1: Matthews got it, fakes to get through a mirror, sets 352 00:17:32,760 --> 00:17:35,399 Speaker 1: deep in the pocket, wants to throw keep down, want 353 00:17:35,440 --> 00:17:38,240 Speaker 1: call a day inside the table. Died give me back 354 00:17:38,280 --> 00:17:43,720 Speaker 1: the cats? He did? You are sucking tops down the 355 00:17:43,840 --> 00:17:54,200 Speaker 1: drugs like that podcasts on the Connection. Holy Smoky laid 356 00:17:54,200 --> 00:17:58,959 Speaker 1: out to make the Cats something else and you got 357 00:17:59,160 --> 00:18:01,480 Speaker 1: the take. Just got down on his hands to me. 358 00:18:03,720 --> 00:18:08,640 Speaker 1: Were not serving Matthew Stafford through four touchdown passes, including 359 00:18:08,680 --> 00:18:11,760 Speaker 1: two fourth quarter hook ups with Kenny Golladay. Wow, And 360 00:18:11,800 --> 00:18:15,000 Speaker 1: they were excited on the radio about Kenston leading the 361 00:18:15,040 --> 00:18:19,160 Speaker 1: Detroit Lines to a comeback win over the Arizona Cardinals. 362 00:18:19,400 --> 00:18:25,159 Speaker 1: And now we welcome in Nick Shook. Brain's end body, 363 00:18:25,560 --> 00:18:29,960 Speaker 1: Nick Shook, as always who gave this game is undivided attention. Nick. 364 00:18:30,080 --> 00:18:32,440 Speaker 1: We'll get to Detroit in a second. But this felt 365 00:18:32,480 --> 00:18:35,359 Speaker 1: like a worst case scenario Sunday for Bruce Arians. David 366 00:18:35,400 --> 00:18:38,439 Speaker 1: Johnson gets hurt and we don't know how serious it is, 367 00:18:38,440 --> 00:18:40,919 Speaker 1: but it doesn't seem slight. And Carson Palmer played like 368 00:18:40,920 --> 00:18:44,720 Speaker 1: an old man. Yeah, it was kind of a a 369 00:18:44,720 --> 00:18:46,920 Speaker 1: little bit of a disaster scenario, especially in the second 370 00:18:46,920 --> 00:18:48,440 Speaker 1: half of the Cardinals, because in the first half, you know, 371 00:18:48,440 --> 00:18:50,480 Speaker 1: they had a little bit of an early lead. Things 372 00:18:50,520 --> 00:18:53,760 Speaker 1: weren't necessarily off the rails yet. But Carson Palmer throw 373 00:18:53,800 --> 00:18:57,480 Speaker 1: us three interceptions and you you suffer injuries and multiple 374 00:18:57,520 --> 00:18:59,720 Speaker 1: areas and and and and then you end up blowing 375 00:18:59,720 --> 00:19:01,119 Speaker 1: a lead that you had on the road. I mean, 376 00:19:01,160 --> 00:19:02,679 Speaker 1: for a while it looked like the Cardinals were in 377 00:19:02,720 --> 00:19:05,760 Speaker 1: control and it all fell apart pretty quickly. Twenty points 378 00:19:05,800 --> 00:19:09,320 Speaker 1: given up in the final period. And you yeah, I 379 00:19:09,400 --> 00:19:11,959 Speaker 1: was watching this game. I wasn't like totally plugged in on, 380 00:19:12,040 --> 00:19:14,199 Speaker 1: but I was checking into the second half because it 381 00:19:14,240 --> 00:19:16,600 Speaker 1: was a tight game, uh near the end, and then 382 00:19:17,000 --> 00:19:19,840 Speaker 1: the Lions pulled away. But Palmer and maybe had this 383 00:19:19,920 --> 00:19:21,399 Speaker 1: last year when he's playing well as well, but he 384 00:19:21,480 --> 00:19:24,080 Speaker 1: kind of had that late period. Marino looked to him 385 00:19:24,119 --> 00:19:26,520 Speaker 1: where he just wasn't fluid in his movements, and then 386 00:19:26,520 --> 00:19:28,960 Speaker 1: when you you throw the turnovers and there, all of 387 00:19:29,000 --> 00:19:31,120 Speaker 1: a sudden, it just looks like you're watching a guy 388 00:19:31,119 --> 00:19:34,720 Speaker 1: that maybe maybe somebody to really be concerned about. Some 389 00:19:35,000 --> 00:19:37,120 Speaker 1: everyone gets one bad week and week one you don't 390 00:19:37,119 --> 00:19:39,320 Speaker 1: make too much of it, but I'm definitely like my 391 00:19:39,440 --> 00:19:42,800 Speaker 1: radar would be up as a Cardinals fan another year later. 392 00:19:43,119 --> 00:19:44,439 Speaker 1: He's kind of looked like that for a little bit 393 00:19:44,440 --> 00:19:46,840 Speaker 1: of a while now, and and it's not really encouraging 394 00:19:46,840 --> 00:19:48,920 Speaker 1: to see him start the season still kind of looking 395 00:19:49,000 --> 00:19:51,639 Speaker 1: like that. Uh. One of those interceptions wasn't as fall 396 00:19:51,680 --> 00:19:54,600 Speaker 1: as a tip ball. Uh, but overall not not not 397 00:19:54,680 --> 00:19:57,280 Speaker 1: you're right, you're the late period Marina thing spot on, 398 00:19:57,440 --> 00:20:00,720 Speaker 1: especially uh Detroit taking the turnover battle four to one. 399 00:20:01,440 --> 00:20:04,119 Speaker 1: Major turnaround for the Lions as well. When to give 400 00:20:04,160 --> 00:20:07,680 Speaker 1: their defense a little credit, it wasn't expecting much out 401 00:20:07,680 --> 00:20:10,600 Speaker 1: of their defense going into the season in general, like 402 00:20:10,640 --> 00:20:12,199 Speaker 1: how did how did they look? No, I think I 403 00:20:12,200 --> 00:20:14,320 Speaker 1: think when we talked about the preview, uh, you know, 404 00:20:14,359 --> 00:20:16,240 Speaker 1: a couple of weeks ago, that's what we were worried 405 00:20:16,240 --> 00:20:17,920 Speaker 1: about with them, was what they were They're supposed to 406 00:20:17,920 --> 00:20:20,720 Speaker 1: take a step back because they're they're injured, they're they're thin, 407 00:20:21,040 --> 00:20:22,520 Speaker 1: you know, and so on and so forth. But they 408 00:20:22,680 --> 00:20:25,240 Speaker 1: they looked pretty good, especially when they needed it. And 409 00:20:25,240 --> 00:20:27,120 Speaker 1: I don't know if that's so much a reflection of 410 00:20:27,480 --> 00:20:30,280 Speaker 1: Arizona not necessarily hitting on all cylinders and talking about 411 00:20:30,280 --> 00:20:32,720 Speaker 1: you know, Palmer not really looking the best, or if 412 00:20:32,800 --> 00:20:35,320 Speaker 1: maybe they're going to surprise some people. They definitely forced 413 00:20:35,359 --> 00:20:37,120 Speaker 1: the stops and turnovers they needed in the second half 414 00:20:37,160 --> 00:20:39,399 Speaker 1: to fuel that comeback, which then again was on the 415 00:20:39,440 --> 00:20:41,880 Speaker 1: arm of Matt Stafford, who that took about the tail 416 00:20:41,880 --> 00:20:44,240 Speaker 1: of two half. The first half didn't look like, you know, 417 00:20:44,359 --> 00:20:46,840 Speaker 1: Matt Stafford didn't look like the highest paid quarterback in 418 00:20:46,840 --> 00:20:49,560 Speaker 1: the NFL by a long shot. And then turns around 419 00:20:49,960 --> 00:20:52,520 Speaker 1: and leads a few drives in the second half, hooking 420 00:20:52,600 --> 00:20:54,560 Speaker 1: up with Kenny Golladay. He's found another receiver that he 421 00:20:54,600 --> 00:20:56,240 Speaker 1: might be able to rely on important. I mean, Dan, 422 00:20:56,359 --> 00:21:00,520 Speaker 1: maybe an argument, uh to start the preseason, to start 423 00:21:00,560 --> 00:21:03,440 Speaker 1: preparation for the for the campaign much later the way 424 00:21:03,480 --> 00:21:10,400 Speaker 1: Detroit to essentially, I mean, it was a good point 425 00:21:10,400 --> 00:21:12,600 Speaker 1: by me, Gregg that it wasn't quite that good of 426 00:21:12,640 --> 00:21:16,000 Speaker 1: a point. Greg's loudness in his laughter, I forgot what 427 00:21:16,040 --> 00:21:19,360 Speaker 1: you said. You were saying, oh, so Detroit taking you know. Yeah. 428 00:21:19,400 --> 00:21:21,680 Speaker 1: I mean they essentially said, listen, every thirty one, other 429 00:21:21,720 --> 00:21:24,040 Speaker 1: teams get to work. We're gonna do things on our 430 00:21:24,040 --> 00:21:26,080 Speaker 1: own clock. And then you come out and you stamp 431 00:21:26,160 --> 00:21:29,200 Speaker 1: the Cardinals in week one. I wouldn't maybe they were 432 00:21:29,240 --> 00:21:32,880 Speaker 1: maybe pro senioritis, but also like there's also narratives all 433 00:21:32,880 --> 00:21:35,160 Speaker 1: over the place. Last year when Carson Palmer was struggling, 434 00:21:35,280 --> 00:21:37,400 Speaker 1: it was because he was throwing too much. He managed 435 00:21:37,440 --> 00:21:40,000 Speaker 1: that and now it's still didn't work out. I don't 436 00:21:40,000 --> 00:21:41,959 Speaker 1: know it's about Carson Palmer. I think if you were 437 00:21:42,040 --> 00:21:46,520 Speaker 1: ranking who had the most concerning, depressing, whatever you want 438 00:21:46,520 --> 00:21:49,560 Speaker 1: to call it, week one, the Cardinals have to be 439 00:21:49,600 --> 00:21:52,119 Speaker 1: at or near the top of the list to have 440 00:21:52,200 --> 00:21:54,920 Speaker 1: a loss like this and then to lose David Johnson 441 00:21:55,000 --> 00:21:57,919 Speaker 1: for what's reported to be either weeks or up to 442 00:21:57,960 --> 00:21:59,800 Speaker 1: half a season at this point because of the rist 443 00:21:59,840 --> 00:22:02,440 Speaker 1: and by the way, David Johnson was eleven for twenty three. 444 00:22:02,440 --> 00:22:04,480 Speaker 1: He was active in the passing game, but he struggled 445 00:22:04,480 --> 00:22:07,080 Speaker 1: to run the ball. They're left tackle got hurt in 446 00:22:07,080 --> 00:22:09,480 Speaker 1: this game. D J. Humphries, like, that's a lot going 447 00:22:09,560 --> 00:22:12,639 Speaker 1: wrong on that offense. They were so reliant on David 448 00:22:12,680 --> 00:22:15,399 Speaker 1: Johnson last year too, which I I understood he was 449 00:22:15,440 --> 00:22:17,879 Speaker 1: a great fantasy find and an excellent player and one 450 00:22:18,000 --> 00:22:21,000 Speaker 1: like a revolutionary multi purpose threat. But I don't like 451 00:22:21,080 --> 00:22:24,439 Speaker 1: any offense that is so reliant on one player, And 452 00:22:24,520 --> 00:22:26,600 Speaker 1: that looked like that to me with the Cardinals last year. 453 00:22:26,640 --> 00:22:28,400 Speaker 1: And now what happens now he's got Yeah, he's gotten 454 00:22:28,440 --> 00:22:30,440 Speaker 1: hurt in their last two games, the finale last year 455 00:22:30,440 --> 00:22:33,960 Speaker 1: and the opener. Just in terms of right now where 456 00:22:33,960 --> 00:22:36,920 Speaker 1: we're recording this on Sunday night here in l A. 457 00:22:37,240 --> 00:22:39,880 Speaker 1: ESPN hasn't missing multiple weeks at a minimum, and potentially 458 00:22:39,880 --> 00:22:43,040 Speaker 1: after season. P FT reported that it has not been 459 00:22:43,040 --> 00:22:45,400 Speaker 1: determined if he'll even miss time. So it's really all 460 00:22:45,400 --> 00:22:47,960 Speaker 1: over the place. But you gotta hope if you're the Cardinals, 461 00:22:48,680 --> 00:22:50,760 Speaker 1: Johnson still around, Hey, Nick, you want to stick around 462 00:22:51,000 --> 00:22:55,639 Speaker 1: for one more game? Absolutely, let's do it. Jack showing 463 00:22:55,680 --> 00:22:57,720 Speaker 1: blitz again. Let's see if they bring the house again. 464 00:22:57,800 --> 00:22:59,480 Speaker 1: Yes they do. It's an all out blitz. I haven't 465 00:22:59,520 --> 00:23:01,960 Speaker 1: dropped an he get the balls out again? That balls out? 466 00:23:02,400 --> 00:23:06,600 Speaker 1: Dante Fowler picks it up forty, don't the thirty Dante 467 00:23:06,640 --> 00:23:09,920 Speaker 1: Fowler the fifty to the ten to the five touchdown 468 00:23:10,200 --> 00:23:14,240 Speaker 1: touchdown Jacksonville. Fowler has run it back and the Jackdonville 469 00:23:14,240 --> 00:23:17,360 Speaker 1: defense is one in a monk? What were the Houston offense? 470 00:23:17,440 --> 00:23:21,000 Speaker 1: And guess who? Yanni and cock Way once again, but 471 00:23:21,160 --> 00:23:24,879 Speaker 1: against a different guy this time Chris Clark the left tackle, 472 00:23:25,320 --> 00:23:29,600 Speaker 1: the chop swim buying Dockway that knocks the ball out 473 00:23:29,640 --> 00:23:32,960 Speaker 1: and it's clearly a fumble and once Dante Fowler gets it, 474 00:23:33,000 --> 00:23:35,040 Speaker 1: he's got an entire Craig What did you hear during 475 00:23:35,119 --> 00:23:37,840 Speaker 1: I'm worried about the cat that was stepped on? And 476 00:23:37,880 --> 00:23:40,560 Speaker 1: then that sounded a little bit like Brock Hossweiler's cliff 477 00:23:40,600 --> 00:23:43,560 Speaker 1: from last year slash the cat was stepped on mid body? 478 00:23:43,760 --> 00:23:47,439 Speaker 1: My goodness. The Jacksonville Jaguars set a franchise record with 479 00:23:47,480 --> 00:23:56,880 Speaker 1: ten sacks and forced four turnovers, chasing Tom Savage out 480 00:23:56,920 --> 00:23:59,600 Speaker 1: of the game and rolling to a twenty nine seven 481 00:23:59,640 --> 00:24:03,440 Speaker 1: win over the anemic Houston Texans. Shook a lot of people, 482 00:24:03,520 --> 00:24:06,240 Speaker 1: myself included, thought the Texans were well set up playing 483 00:24:06,240 --> 00:24:09,520 Speaker 1: in front of a full house of resilient is it Houstonian's, 484 00:24:11,119 --> 00:24:13,880 Speaker 1: but the old quarterback issue flared up on Bill O'Brien 485 00:24:14,000 --> 00:24:15,960 Speaker 1: once more. As I watched most of the first half, 486 00:24:15,960 --> 00:24:18,760 Speaker 1: and it just got worse and worse and uglier and uglier. 487 00:24:18,880 --> 00:24:21,920 Speaker 1: I actually wondered how the Tom Savage's real drop would 488 00:24:21,920 --> 00:24:23,960 Speaker 1: be used when breaking down this game? Do you want 489 00:24:23,960 --> 00:24:31,400 Speaker 1: to hear it again? Pleasantly surprised, true bad at football. 490 00:24:33,119 --> 00:24:35,760 Speaker 1: That's acco That's how he was, totally accurately, That's how 491 00:24:35,760 --> 00:24:38,240 Speaker 1: he was on Sunday. You know, I don't want to 492 00:24:38,240 --> 00:24:40,119 Speaker 1: pin it all on him because I want to be 493 00:24:40,160 --> 00:24:45,360 Speaker 1: a nice guy here. Houston's offensive line is first off, 494 00:24:45,359 --> 00:24:47,560 Speaker 1: they're one of the three cheapest units in the NFL. 495 00:24:48,160 --> 00:24:51,359 Speaker 1: They looked like it on Sunday. They struggled to protect 496 00:24:51,400 --> 00:24:54,400 Speaker 1: him from either side. Clais Campbell had a field day 497 00:24:54,400 --> 00:24:56,159 Speaker 1: in the first half. He had three and a half sacks, 498 00:24:56,440 --> 00:24:59,240 Speaker 1: which tied the franchise record for most in a game 499 00:24:59,520 --> 00:25:01,320 Speaker 1: in the first bad for a free agent pick up 500 00:25:01,359 --> 00:25:04,760 Speaker 1: in the first game four for the game, Dante Fowler 501 00:25:04,880 --> 00:25:07,480 Speaker 1: was a wrecking crew on the other side by himself, 502 00:25:07,720 --> 00:25:10,720 Speaker 1: uh and then Yannick and Gokway, which I'm glad that 503 00:25:10,720 --> 00:25:13,280 Speaker 1: that play. That play guy said his name. I struggled 504 00:25:13,320 --> 00:25:16,040 Speaker 1: to say in the entire game. He was also forced 505 00:25:16,080 --> 00:25:19,080 Speaker 1: that defense finally looked like it was supposed to look 506 00:25:19,640 --> 00:25:21,560 Speaker 1: for the last two years. But when it comes to 507 00:25:21,560 --> 00:25:24,399 Speaker 1: Tom Savage, my real problem with him is he's a 508 00:25:24,440 --> 00:25:26,760 Speaker 1: statue in the pocket and against pressure like that that 509 00:25:26,800 --> 00:25:30,040 Speaker 1: you can't survive that way, you can't. And it's also 510 00:25:30,119 --> 00:25:33,479 Speaker 1: worth pointing out Deshaun Watson came in and yes they 511 00:25:33,520 --> 00:25:35,720 Speaker 1: had a touchdown drive right off the bat, but in 512 00:25:35,760 --> 00:25:38,640 Speaker 1: the end, his numbers weren't any better. He actually averaged 513 00:25:38,680 --> 00:25:41,840 Speaker 1: fewer yards per attempt. He was sacked four times and 514 00:25:41,880 --> 00:25:45,640 Speaker 1: through an interception two. So I agree with you, not 515 00:25:45,640 --> 00:25:47,280 Speaker 1: not even seen the game in depth though, that they 516 00:25:47,320 --> 00:25:50,159 Speaker 1: have systemic problems that go beyond the quarterback and they 517 00:25:50,200 --> 00:25:53,000 Speaker 1: don't have a logical veteran quarterback that can fix it. 518 00:25:53,080 --> 00:25:56,680 Speaker 1: I think it's so concerning if you're Houston because the 519 00:25:57,040 --> 00:25:59,320 Speaker 1: game script here and what happened so early in the 520 00:25:59,400 --> 00:26:02,080 Speaker 1: year is everything against what you talked about wanting to 521 00:26:02,119 --> 00:26:05,600 Speaker 1: achieve all offseason with Tom Savage, and in the fact 522 00:26:05,600 --> 00:26:07,600 Speaker 1: that the veterans were all into him and he was 523 00:26:07,640 --> 00:26:10,840 Speaker 1: their unquestioned leader, and Bill O'Brien, you know, pulls the 524 00:26:10,840 --> 00:26:13,560 Speaker 1: plug midway through the first game of the year. Very 525 00:26:13,600 --> 00:26:16,880 Speaker 1: concerning if on the flip side, if you're the Jaguars, 526 00:26:17,280 --> 00:26:19,119 Speaker 1: you talked about we're gonna run the ball a hundred 527 00:26:19,119 --> 00:26:21,360 Speaker 1: and fifty times a game and just hide Blake Bortles 528 00:26:21,600 --> 00:26:23,560 Speaker 1: did and you did it, and you I would have 529 00:26:23,600 --> 00:26:26,080 Speaker 1: thought the defense, even if it were quality, you would 530 00:26:26,119 --> 00:26:28,320 Speaker 1: never be able to achieve that on offense. But they did. 531 00:26:28,480 --> 00:26:30,400 Speaker 1: This is a great this is a great road win 532 00:26:31,000 --> 00:26:32,679 Speaker 1: for Jacksonville. But I do want to see if this 533 00:26:32,720 --> 00:26:35,600 Speaker 1: formula holds against the team and an offense that I 534 00:26:35,600 --> 00:26:37,960 Speaker 1: could actually move the ball. I hate to say, you know, 535 00:26:38,040 --> 00:26:40,320 Speaker 1: to maybe burst your bubble you expected to maybe come. 536 00:26:40,440 --> 00:26:44,679 Speaker 1: I think it's gonna stick. Leonard four Nette looked like 537 00:26:44,760 --> 00:26:48,760 Speaker 1: the pick worth, the pick everything you would expect from him. 538 00:26:48,800 --> 00:26:50,880 Speaker 1: That was my NFL dot Com Rookie of the Year. 539 00:26:50,960 --> 00:26:53,200 Speaker 1: You can find that on our site l dot com. 540 00:26:55,080 --> 00:26:58,440 Speaker 1: You can also find my Jaguars defense making the leap 541 00:26:58,560 --> 00:27:01,520 Speaker 1: this year and look at goods so fun. Actually I've 542 00:27:01,520 --> 00:27:04,600 Speaker 1: had that unpublished. But and for net who caught three 543 00:27:04,600 --> 00:27:07,200 Speaker 1: passed with their second leading receiver might have to continue 544 00:27:07,200 --> 00:27:10,920 Speaker 1: to because Alan Roberts Robinson it's confirmed by the Jaguars 545 00:27:11,080 --> 00:27:13,679 Speaker 1: has an a c L injury. It's believed to be 546 00:27:13,720 --> 00:27:16,040 Speaker 1: a tour in a c L. They already were a 547 00:27:16,080 --> 00:27:19,240 Speaker 1: little thin at receiver, just in the passing game in general. 548 00:27:19,240 --> 00:27:21,720 Speaker 1: That's a huge Ken Leonard four Nette rushed the ball 549 00:27:21,840 --> 00:27:24,920 Speaker 1: for even times this year. Stay healthy, that's the question 550 00:27:24,960 --> 00:27:26,840 Speaker 1: I have. Also. J J. Watt left this game with 551 00:27:26,880 --> 00:27:28,560 Speaker 1: an injury. Did he come back with he with a 552 00:27:28,560 --> 00:27:31,080 Speaker 1: finger issue? Uh? And his brother out played him this 553 00:27:31,119 --> 00:27:34,040 Speaker 1: week and he was very what was very frustrated about 554 00:27:34,119 --> 00:27:36,280 Speaker 1: his effort and the team's effort. I don't know, listen 555 00:27:36,359 --> 00:27:39,600 Speaker 1: Bill up one thing about Bill O'Brien. I don't and 556 00:27:39,800 --> 00:27:43,000 Speaker 1: West you know, is all over O'Brien on this, and 557 00:27:43,040 --> 00:27:46,040 Speaker 1: fairly so that he's very bad with the quarterback room. 558 00:27:46,160 --> 00:27:49,359 Speaker 1: It's annoying to me that we, because we're so close 559 00:27:49,359 --> 00:27:51,680 Speaker 1: to the game and covering the game, that we listened 560 00:27:51,720 --> 00:27:54,360 Speaker 1: to three months of Tom Savage being pumped up as 561 00:27:54,400 --> 00:27:56,560 Speaker 1: the guy. There was even some you know, like NW 562 00:27:56,800 --> 00:27:59,480 Speaker 1: Hopkins talking about how he's a franchise type quarterback and 563 00:27:59,520 --> 00:28:01,960 Speaker 1: then to bad quarters and he's banished, and I don't 564 00:28:01,960 --> 00:28:03,760 Speaker 1: know if we're gonna see him again barring an injury. 565 00:28:04,040 --> 00:28:06,359 Speaker 1: I just don't know if that's as bad as he was, 566 00:28:06,400 --> 00:28:08,520 Speaker 1: and I would have to see watch the game more closely. 567 00:28:09,040 --> 00:28:10,480 Speaker 1: Is the a guy that should be pulled out of 568 00:28:10,520 --> 00:28:12,680 Speaker 1: the game after you spend all this time talking yourself 569 00:28:12,720 --> 00:28:14,720 Speaker 1: into him being a real option. I just wonder what 570 00:28:14,840 --> 00:28:17,440 Speaker 1: sort of instability it creates in your quarterback room, into 571 00:28:17,480 --> 00:28:19,360 Speaker 1: a wider degree in your locker room, where you say, 572 00:28:19,359 --> 00:28:21,840 Speaker 1: we're gonna get behind this guy for all the entire 573 00:28:21,880 --> 00:28:23,800 Speaker 1: offseason and build him up and then and then in 574 00:28:24,000 --> 00:28:26,919 Speaker 1: the minute one half goes bad. It's not entirely his fault. 575 00:28:27,240 --> 00:28:31,440 Speaker 1: We change everything. I'm convinced that none of his teammates 576 00:28:31,480 --> 00:28:33,479 Speaker 1: are worried about how he feels, and none of them 577 00:28:33,560 --> 00:28:37,119 Speaker 1: are upset by him being benched in favor of Deshaun Watson, 578 00:28:37,119 --> 00:28:41,360 Speaker 1: because because Deshaun Watson and Tom Savage right now are 579 00:28:41,360 --> 00:28:44,240 Speaker 1: on the same plane, except that Deshaun Watson has the 580 00:28:44,240 --> 00:28:46,400 Speaker 1: mobility to escape the pass for us that he's inevitably 581 00:28:46,400 --> 00:28:49,960 Speaker 1: going to be facing all year well less than average line. Well, 582 00:28:49,960 --> 00:28:51,719 Speaker 1: we'll have an update on this by the time some 583 00:28:51,760 --> 00:28:54,040 Speaker 1: people hear this. But this is a Thursday night game. 584 00:28:54,040 --> 00:28:56,920 Speaker 1: The Texans are playing this week against the Bengals, so 585 00:28:57,040 --> 00:28:59,760 Speaker 1: can they about as sexy is last year's Christmas Eve 586 00:28:59,800 --> 00:29:04,280 Speaker 1: game between? Alright, alright, alright, it's a fair point. Can 587 00:29:04,280 --> 00:29:06,800 Speaker 1: they get to Shawn Watson? Ready on that short of 588 00:29:06,920 --> 00:29:09,440 Speaker 1: arrest like trying to avoid o into it? Did you 589 00:29:09,480 --> 00:29:12,040 Speaker 1: hear did you hear Greg the suit get upset? Yeah? 590 00:29:12,240 --> 00:29:15,960 Speaker 1: Yeah on the wrist. You must enjoy that game. It 591 00:29:16,000 --> 00:29:19,720 Speaker 1: will be fun for you that ladder. I'll be here 592 00:29:19,720 --> 00:29:22,520 Speaker 1: on Thursday night, Dan, I'll come back. We'll be doing 593 00:29:22,560 --> 00:29:25,080 Speaker 1: the previews show. I'm hoping I'll watch it, but I don't. 594 00:29:25,160 --> 00:29:27,360 Speaker 1: I like to discuss good football when I see it. 595 00:29:27,400 --> 00:29:30,400 Speaker 1: How about that Shook? Nice work, Thank you for stopping by. 596 00:29:30,440 --> 00:29:33,240 Speaker 1: Appreciate h We love having you here. I love being here. 597 00:29:33,280 --> 00:29:35,000 Speaker 1: Where are you off to? Now? What is the rest 598 00:29:35,040 --> 00:29:37,440 Speaker 1: of your workout? Number four? Time is it? I don't 599 00:29:37,480 --> 00:29:39,360 Speaker 1: think I have time to make the gym. We're gonna 600 00:29:39,360 --> 00:29:41,840 Speaker 1: go watch more games today. There you go, Nick Shook 601 00:29:42,600 --> 00:29:45,440 Speaker 1: signing off, Love us some Nick Shook. Let's move on. 602 00:29:45,840 --> 00:29:49,400 Speaker 1: Cousin's long blump up again. He's got Thompson to his 603 00:29:49,520 --> 00:29:55,200 Speaker 1: one buck again, goes Cousins. Phoopball couldn't close. It's picked 604 00:29:55,280 --> 00:30:04,560 Speaker 1: up by Cox? Is now it was gonna fullball the Eagles. 605 00:30:05,680 --> 00:30:09,000 Speaker 1: Carson Wentz through for three seven yards and two touchdowns, 606 00:30:09,040 --> 00:30:12,200 Speaker 1: and the Eagles defense did their job as well. The 607 00:30:12,240 --> 00:30:16,280 Speaker 1: Eagles with a thirty seventeen win over a sloppy Redskins team. 608 00:30:16,520 --> 00:30:18,680 Speaker 1: Greg Carson Wentz looked like a guy ready to take 609 00:30:18,720 --> 00:30:21,080 Speaker 1: the next step in year two, while Kirk Cousins and 610 00:30:21,120 --> 00:30:24,760 Speaker 1: the Redskins just looked ineffective. Their offense didn't make you 611 00:30:24,800 --> 00:30:27,600 Speaker 1: feel any better about the preseason you saw. But what 612 00:30:27,760 --> 00:30:30,200 Speaker 1: really stood out to me was something we've talked about 613 00:30:30,240 --> 00:30:34,040 Speaker 1: this offseason, which is by far the best group in 614 00:30:34,120 --> 00:30:38,880 Speaker 1: this game was Fletcher Cox, Brandon Graham and Timmy Journ. Again, 615 00:30:39,080 --> 00:30:42,280 Speaker 1: they won this game. They were dominating it early. They're 616 00:30:42,320 --> 00:30:45,520 Speaker 1: getting all over Cousins making it very hard to do anything. 617 00:30:45,520 --> 00:30:47,880 Speaker 1: They end up winning the game with the strip sack late, 618 00:30:48,240 --> 00:30:50,480 Speaker 1: but even before that they were hitting him. They were 619 00:30:50,480 --> 00:30:52,760 Speaker 1: sacking him there, getting tackles for loss in the in 620 00:30:52,800 --> 00:30:55,800 Speaker 1: the Redskins running game, and Carson Wentz he had his 621 00:30:55,920 --> 00:30:57,960 Speaker 1: ups and downs, But I think if the Eagles can 622 00:30:58,000 --> 00:31:00,960 Speaker 1: have that group up front each in every week, they're 623 00:31:01,000 --> 00:31:02,960 Speaker 1: gonna have a chance to win a lot of games. Yeah, 624 00:31:03,040 --> 00:31:05,680 Speaker 1: it's unusual to look at two teams where what we 625 00:31:05,720 --> 00:31:09,800 Speaker 1: saw in August translates almost entirely to Week one, and 626 00:31:10,080 --> 00:31:14,080 Speaker 1: that that unit for Philly dominated throughout the entire preseason. 627 00:31:14,280 --> 00:31:16,880 Speaker 1: And the question for me was, when the lights go on, 628 00:31:17,000 --> 00:31:20,200 Speaker 1: would we see a Redskin team under Jake Gruden that 629 00:31:20,360 --> 00:31:22,800 Speaker 1: suddenly knew how to run the ball, that suddenly the 630 00:31:22,880 --> 00:31:26,320 Speaker 1: chemistry between Cousins and Terrell Prior and others would be there. 631 00:31:26,640 --> 00:31:29,400 Speaker 1: And Prior had a better game than we've seen, you know, 632 00:31:29,600 --> 00:31:32,440 Speaker 1: during any time with the Redskins. But this offense concerns me. 633 00:31:32,640 --> 00:31:35,520 Speaker 1: And and even with his better numbers, he there was 634 00:31:35,760 --> 00:31:38,080 Speaker 1: a couple of deep shots early, one which he dropped 635 00:31:38,120 --> 00:31:41,440 Speaker 1: one which the it wasn't syncd up him and Cousins. 636 00:31:41,440 --> 00:31:43,080 Speaker 1: They were not on the same page. So you saw 637 00:31:43,160 --> 00:31:47,240 Speaker 1: that early kind of chemistry issues plaguing them that they 638 00:31:47,240 --> 00:31:49,240 Speaker 1: were worried about. And Josh Dotson just wasn't even on 639 00:31:49,240 --> 00:31:51,520 Speaker 1: the field that much. They need him to be out 640 00:31:51,520 --> 00:31:53,440 Speaker 1: there a lot, and they used him sparing Lee. I 641 00:31:53,440 --> 00:31:54,840 Speaker 1: don't know if they're sending a message or they just 642 00:31:54,880 --> 00:31:57,800 Speaker 1: don't trust them to stay healthy right now. I mean Cousins, 643 00:31:57,840 --> 00:32:00,720 Speaker 1: on top of being sacked four times and having his 644 00:32:00,760 --> 00:32:04,280 Speaker 1: own issues, loses two fumbles. I mean, you want to 645 00:32:04,280 --> 00:32:06,040 Speaker 1: look at a team in the in the NFC East 646 00:32:06,080 --> 00:32:08,840 Speaker 1: that Greg you called the Eagles to win this division. 647 00:32:08,880 --> 00:32:11,320 Speaker 1: I mean they have they have some nasty elements to them. 648 00:32:11,440 --> 00:32:13,920 Speaker 1: I don' think Jim Schwartz is a coordinator, Coordinator of 649 00:32:13,960 --> 00:32:16,760 Speaker 1: the year type candidate. I think, yeah, I mean, this 650 00:32:16,840 --> 00:32:20,080 Speaker 1: is a bad, bad start for Washington. But Cousins is 651 00:32:20,120 --> 00:32:22,920 Speaker 1: a guy that people like to count him out and 652 00:32:22,960 --> 00:32:24,600 Speaker 1: then all of a sudden he'll get I'm not I'm 653 00:32:24,640 --> 00:32:27,600 Speaker 1: not what's gonna be Okay? I think bad start, and yeah, 654 00:32:27,600 --> 00:32:30,120 Speaker 1: they clearly have things they have to work out, and 655 00:32:30,160 --> 00:32:34,000 Speaker 1: I think Philadelphia, uh, you know, benefited from that well 656 00:32:34,040 --> 00:32:37,080 Speaker 1: real quick. Carson Wentz. I mean Carson Wentz. It's I 657 00:32:37,120 --> 00:32:39,120 Speaker 1: think it's okay to get excited about Carson Wentz. I 658 00:32:39,160 --> 00:32:41,720 Speaker 1: don't know if he's like a top ten quarterback this 659 00:32:41,840 --> 00:32:45,040 Speaker 1: year or whenever, but he's fun to watch. I mean 660 00:32:45,080 --> 00:32:50,480 Speaker 1: that one touchdown, dude, that's Randall Cunningham stuff. I mean, 661 00:32:50,520 --> 00:32:54,080 Speaker 1: that is that's rare. We talked about it. Very different 662 00:32:54,120 --> 00:32:56,640 Speaker 1: player Patrick Mahomes in the presect. There aren't many people 663 00:32:56,840 --> 00:32:59,520 Speaker 1: that can pull off a play that Carson Wentz did 664 00:32:59,560 --> 00:33:02,240 Speaker 1: to act large and we talked about Aglar lot this offseason. 665 00:33:02,600 --> 00:33:04,720 Speaker 1: Ended up having six catches for eight six yards. He 666 00:33:04,760 --> 00:33:06,400 Speaker 1: had that touchdown. He also had a couple of key 667 00:33:06,480 --> 00:33:10,960 Speaker 1: third down conversions. I think the Eagles really want Carson 668 00:33:11,000 --> 00:33:13,880 Speaker 1: Wentz to start coming up with some of those improv 669 00:33:14,040 --> 00:33:17,120 Speaker 1: improvisational place and I think they have the receivers this year, 670 00:33:17,120 --> 00:33:19,880 Speaker 1: even though he missed some passes that can do the 671 00:33:19,920 --> 00:33:22,120 Speaker 1: scramble drill a little better with him to to come 672 00:33:22,200 --> 00:33:24,760 Speaker 1: up with those places. One injury here. Ronald Darby, the 673 00:33:24,760 --> 00:33:28,000 Speaker 1: cornerback acquired in a trade from the Bills last month, 674 00:33:28,040 --> 00:33:33,200 Speaker 1: suffered a pretty bad looking ankle injury. Dislocated it, tendon damage. Uh. 675 00:33:33,360 --> 00:33:35,760 Speaker 1: You could expect him to miss many weeks and perhaps 676 00:33:35,760 --> 00:33:37,680 Speaker 1: all of the weeks in the season. We'll see how 677 00:33:37,720 --> 00:33:39,800 Speaker 1: that plays off. Was huge. I mean, there's a reason 678 00:33:39,840 --> 00:33:42,480 Speaker 1: they they made a big trade for him and gave 679 00:33:42,560 --> 00:33:44,680 Speaker 1: up a real assets for him. He was looking very 680 00:33:44,720 --> 00:33:46,440 Speaker 1: good for them too, and he and they were really 681 00:33:46,440 --> 00:33:49,080 Speaker 1: thin at that position. It's a huge loss. Let's move 682 00:33:49,120 --> 00:33:51,440 Speaker 1: back to the A. F. C. Dalton empty backfield. In 683 00:33:51,480 --> 00:33:55,080 Speaker 1: the shotgun, Ravens bring a blitz past reflective floats high 684 00:33:55,080 --> 00:33:57,680 Speaker 1: to the air, and it is intercepted in the ten 685 00:33:57,800 --> 00:34:01,000 Speaker 1: yards large and taken down and have a five yard 686 00:34:01,160 --> 00:34:05,000 Speaker 1: line as the Ravens got their third pick of the game. 687 00:34:05,760 --> 00:34:09,279 Speaker 1: Terrell Suggs had the tip and learned Darius whim with 688 00:34:09,400 --> 00:34:12,040 Speaker 1: the pick. I don't think I've ever seen a ball 689 00:34:12,120 --> 00:34:15,000 Speaker 1: tip that high before. That must have grown up twenty 690 00:34:15,080 --> 00:34:18,000 Speaker 1: feet straight up in the air, and nobody knew where 691 00:34:18,000 --> 00:34:20,759 Speaker 1: it was except La Darius, who caught it in a 692 00:34:20,840 --> 00:34:24,160 Speaker 1: crouch like a catcher would. The Ravens defense was as 693 00:34:24,160 --> 00:34:27,240 Speaker 1: good as advertised on Sunday, picking off Andy Dalton four 694 00:34:27,280 --> 00:34:31,320 Speaker 1: times and forcing a fumble in a twenty zero victory. 695 00:34:31,360 --> 00:34:34,560 Speaker 1: Folks to shut out victory over the Cincinnati ben Gals 696 00:34:34,600 --> 00:34:36,759 Speaker 1: in front of a frustrated home crowd at Paul Brown 697 00:34:36,800 --> 00:34:40,759 Speaker 1: Stadium UM on Thursday. On Thursday's previous foot which again 698 00:34:41,520 --> 00:34:45,560 Speaker 1: let me listens dropping nuggets, you gonna learn something. It's 699 00:34:45,600 --> 00:34:50,120 Speaker 1: not just about the flagship show. On Thursday, we talked 700 00:34:50,160 --> 00:34:53,240 Speaker 1: about this raven season rising and falling on their defense 701 00:34:53,360 --> 00:34:56,280 Speaker 1: channeling it's dominant ways of old. So far, so good. 702 00:34:56,440 --> 00:35:01,600 Speaker 1: As for the Bengals, so gross. I mean, I think 703 00:35:01,600 --> 00:35:03,840 Speaker 1: that's appropriate. If it sounds would never do it again. 704 00:35:05,200 --> 00:35:08,200 Speaker 1: The offense deserved every boo that rained down on the field. 705 00:35:08,239 --> 00:35:12,200 Speaker 1: But let's be honest, because you open your season against 706 00:35:12,239 --> 00:35:16,040 Speaker 1: a division rival and you get shut out after people 707 00:35:16,120 --> 00:35:18,600 Speaker 1: like me and many others that that stuck up for 708 00:35:18,680 --> 00:35:22,160 Speaker 1: Cincinnati said last year was a Murphy's Law type of season. 709 00:35:22,400 --> 00:35:25,280 Speaker 1: Now they're healthy, Now they're gonna get things together. Everybody 710 00:35:25,320 --> 00:35:27,840 Speaker 1: that had concerns about this team, whether it was the 711 00:35:27,880 --> 00:35:30,560 Speaker 1: offensive line, or whether Andy Dalton was good enough or 712 00:35:30,600 --> 00:35:33,680 Speaker 1: what have you, all that stuff played out in a 713 00:35:33,800 --> 00:35:39,000 Speaker 1: nightmarish form for Cincinnati. I'm concerned about a Bengals offensive 714 00:35:39,040 --> 00:35:42,279 Speaker 1: line that allows five sacks um an overall effort that 715 00:35:42,320 --> 00:35:45,200 Speaker 1: has all Dalton lose a fumble through four picks, and 716 00:35:45,360 --> 00:35:47,960 Speaker 1: the guy who most impressed me in the preseason, Joe Mixon, 717 00:35:48,280 --> 00:35:50,680 Speaker 1: rushes for nine yards off eight carries. I'm sure that. 718 00:35:50,680 --> 00:35:52,680 Speaker 1: I'm sure the narrative in terms of having a running 719 00:35:52,719 --> 00:35:55,280 Speaker 1: game went out the window pretty early here. But I 720 00:35:55,280 --> 00:35:58,640 Speaker 1: I remember Dan, you and I watching that Brown's Bengals 721 00:35:58,680 --> 00:36:03,319 Speaker 1: game from were Dalton utterly melt melted down in a 722 00:36:03,360 --> 00:36:06,640 Speaker 1: primetime loss to Cleveland. I don't know if he's had 723 00:36:06,680 --> 00:36:10,839 Speaker 1: a game this bad since then he's good. Point too, 724 00:36:11,000 --> 00:36:13,279 Speaker 1: very very bad play. I mean he had a bad 725 00:36:13,280 --> 00:36:17,120 Speaker 1: game in general, but early in the game, when things 726 00:36:17,160 --> 00:36:19,759 Speaker 1: were under control, they're in the red zone and he 727 00:36:19,800 --> 00:36:23,160 Speaker 1: floats a pass into coverage on third and seven. His 728 00:36:23,239 --> 00:36:25,320 Speaker 1: receiver was well covered, but it's just a throw you 729 00:36:25,360 --> 00:36:27,719 Speaker 1: can't be making, especially if you've been a starter for 730 00:36:27,800 --> 00:36:30,560 Speaker 1: seven years as Dalton has, and was picked off by C. J. 731 00:36:30,680 --> 00:36:33,000 Speaker 1: Moseley and run back twenty five yards. And then in 732 00:36:33,120 --> 00:36:37,399 Speaker 1: the after they've fallen behind. Um, I want to say 733 00:36:37,520 --> 00:36:39,560 Speaker 1: it was in the third quarter, the start of the 734 00:36:39,560 --> 00:36:42,600 Speaker 1: third quarter, Cincinnati gets an interception, gets set up. You 735 00:36:42,640 --> 00:36:45,439 Speaker 1: see that, the crowd getting into the game. Uh since 736 00:36:45,480 --> 00:36:46,919 Speaker 1: it then it makes it a couple of plays, gets 737 00:36:46,920 --> 00:36:50,120 Speaker 1: into the red zone, and then and then Dalton rolls 738 00:36:50,160 --> 00:36:52,719 Speaker 1: to his right, doesn't sense the pressure, takes a sack, 739 00:36:52,800 --> 00:36:55,640 Speaker 1: fumbles the ball, loses it, and then at that point 740 00:36:55,680 --> 00:36:57,839 Speaker 1: all the airs out of that stadium and they never 741 00:36:57,920 --> 00:37:00,879 Speaker 1: really threatened again after that. It was basically, if you're 742 00:37:00,920 --> 00:37:03,520 Speaker 1: not an Andy Dalton fan, this was the exact type 743 00:37:03,520 --> 00:37:05,920 Speaker 1: of game that reinforces all the notions you have. Well, 744 00:37:05,960 --> 00:37:09,200 Speaker 1: the the box score in a lot of these games. 745 00:37:09,239 --> 00:37:13,279 Speaker 1: Offensively in Week one was ugly. It's usually offense is 746 00:37:13,280 --> 00:37:16,120 Speaker 1: ahead of defense early in the season, there's there's higher 747 00:37:16,160 --> 00:37:18,239 Speaker 1: scoring because the weather and all that. Both of these 748 00:37:18,280 --> 00:37:20,640 Speaker 1: teams were under three yards. The Bengals are at two 749 00:37:20,840 --> 00:37:24,239 Speaker 1: to twenty, which is really really low. That's about where 750 00:37:24,239 --> 00:37:26,200 Speaker 1: the Seahawks were too. You don't see that too oft 751 00:37:26,239 --> 00:37:28,200 Speaker 1: in the NFL. The Ravens weren't even much better. But 752 00:37:28,400 --> 00:37:30,800 Speaker 1: you should give the defense. We should give the defense, 753 00:37:31,239 --> 00:37:34,120 Speaker 1: uh the most credit because they're coming into this week 754 00:37:34,480 --> 00:37:36,920 Speaker 1: looking like one of the deepest, baddest units around and 755 00:37:36,920 --> 00:37:38,680 Speaker 1: they come and pitch a shutout, which you just don't 756 00:37:38,680 --> 00:37:40,759 Speaker 1: see in the NFL too much. To else Sugs, I 757 00:37:40,800 --> 00:37:44,040 Speaker 1: don't know. I don't know what he does that he 758 00:37:44,120 --> 00:37:46,120 Speaker 1: never gets worse like he No, I'm just saying he 759 00:37:46,600 --> 00:37:49,760 Speaker 1: never gets where he gets better. He's there, James Harrison, 760 00:37:49,800 --> 00:37:52,759 Speaker 1: like on that front, right, Brandon Williams had a big game. 761 00:37:52,800 --> 00:37:55,160 Speaker 1: Michael Pierce is a nose tackle like they're they're kind 762 00:37:55,160 --> 00:37:58,120 Speaker 1: of big and nasty up front, and then I think 763 00:37:58,160 --> 00:38:01,160 Speaker 1: they translate really well to day's NFL where there's a 764 00:38:01,200 --> 00:38:04,160 Speaker 1: lot of substitutions and in depth where they can just 765 00:38:04,200 --> 00:38:07,399 Speaker 1: have guys out there for snaps and they're just they're 766 00:38:07,440 --> 00:38:09,640 Speaker 1: shuttling in and out and they're doing a great job. 767 00:38:09,680 --> 00:38:11,640 Speaker 1: I liked that you go out and signed Tony Jefferson 768 00:38:11,840 --> 00:38:14,839 Speaker 1: and he had a big game, and that secondary, which 769 00:38:14,920 --> 00:38:17,759 Speaker 1: was a nightmare a couple of seasons ago, totally short 770 00:38:17,840 --> 00:38:22,000 Speaker 1: up at this point, and Baltimore could win games based 771 00:38:22,040 --> 00:38:24,040 Speaker 1: on their defense alone. We talked about them winning games 772 00:38:24,040 --> 00:38:26,839 Speaker 1: twelve to nine. Well, torny to nothing works. Yeah. Two 773 00:38:26,840 --> 00:38:31,480 Speaker 1: more notes about the quarterback played Dalton against the Ravens. Yikes. 774 00:38:31,560 --> 00:38:34,279 Speaker 1: I mean he's now had in nine he's had nine 775 00:38:34,320 --> 00:38:36,600 Speaker 1: three interception games in his career, four of them against 776 00:38:36,600 --> 00:38:39,160 Speaker 1: the Ravens. And he's had one other four pick game 777 00:38:39,600 --> 00:38:42,560 Speaker 1: that was in two thousand thirteen, also against the Ravens. 778 00:38:42,760 --> 00:38:46,240 Speaker 1: And Joe Flacco, on the other hand, no fluco, no fluco. 779 00:38:46,760 --> 00:38:49,319 Speaker 1: Not a great performance. You didn't have to do much 780 00:38:49,400 --> 00:38:52,560 Speaker 1: nine of seventeen twenty one yards. Uh. He did throw 781 00:38:52,600 --> 00:38:56,000 Speaker 1: a pick, but it was almost a perfect situation because 782 00:38:56,560 --> 00:38:59,560 Speaker 1: you're kind of working Flacco back into the mix. He 783 00:38:59,640 --> 00:39:01,759 Speaker 1: was not gonna carry you on a bad back this week. 784 00:39:01,920 --> 00:39:04,120 Speaker 1: You let the defense do it and maybe that's gonna 785 00:39:04,160 --> 00:39:06,120 Speaker 1: be the order of the day in Baltimore. It's it's 786 00:39:06,120 --> 00:39:09,040 Speaker 1: gonna be a lot of ugly games. Danny Woodhead suffered 787 00:39:09,080 --> 00:39:11,480 Speaker 1: a non contact injury. We'll see how long he's like 788 00:39:11,680 --> 00:39:14,239 Speaker 1: a hamstring, which was a problem this summer as well. Yeah, 789 00:39:14,280 --> 00:39:17,799 Speaker 1: it was not was barely on the field for them. 790 00:39:17,920 --> 00:39:20,040 Speaker 1: He was also very active in that drive before he 791 00:39:20,040 --> 00:39:21,360 Speaker 1: got hurt. He looked like he was gonna be a 792 00:39:21,360 --> 00:39:23,440 Speaker 1: big part of the offense, and now he's got to 793 00:39:23,800 --> 00:39:26,200 Speaker 1: big to get a road division victory. This feels like 794 00:39:26,239 --> 00:39:28,800 Speaker 1: those count double well in the division. Was gonna accept 795 00:39:28,920 --> 00:39:31,080 Speaker 1: the top three teams can be separated by two games 796 00:39:31,080 --> 00:39:34,719 Speaker 1: in that division. Hey Ravens, great job. Let's stay in 797 00:39:34,800 --> 00:39:36,920 Speaker 1: the a f C North and move on to believe 798 00:39:37,040 --> 00:39:40,640 Speaker 1: land clean snapping right for the kicker is blocked the 799 00:39:40,680 --> 00:39:43,160 Speaker 1: Steelers pocket, it's loosened bounding in the end zone. If 800 00:39:43,200 --> 00:39:45,560 Speaker 1: the Steelers fall upon it in the Brown's end zone 801 00:39:45,560 --> 00:39:49,680 Speaker 1: for a touchdown, Tyler Mattic Kevin shot in and they 802 00:39:49,719 --> 00:39:53,560 Speaker 1: get the clean swat Anthony chicklo able to pounce upon it. 803 00:39:54,280 --> 00:39:57,680 Speaker 1: Have a Pittsburgh Steelers strike pay durt without their offense 804 00:39:57,760 --> 00:40:00,400 Speaker 1: even getting on the field as the former a blow 805 00:40:00,560 --> 00:40:05,200 Speaker 1: blocks it Ailo gets the six. The Steelers got in 806 00:40:05,239 --> 00:40:08,279 Speaker 1: front with a huge special teams play and Ben Roethlisberger 807 00:40:08,280 --> 00:40:11,200 Speaker 1: through two touchdown passes the tight end Jesse James. The 808 00:40:11,239 --> 00:40:17,719 Speaker 1: result teen win over the Cleveland Browns. Mark uh downstairs, 809 00:40:17,719 --> 00:40:19,560 Speaker 1: you didn't seem to put much stock in the idea 810 00:40:19,600 --> 00:40:21,920 Speaker 1: of a moral victory, but given the Steelers all they 811 00:40:21,960 --> 00:40:25,280 Speaker 1: can handle, counts his progress right. Weird, a very weird game. 812 00:40:25,920 --> 00:40:28,759 Speaker 1: And Greg made the point on Thursdays Show that there 813 00:40:28,800 --> 00:40:30,680 Speaker 1: was a week to play Pittsburgh it might be this 814 00:40:30,719 --> 00:40:33,520 Speaker 1: one because of the kind of lack of time they 815 00:40:33,520 --> 00:40:36,480 Speaker 1: spent together on offense in the preseason, and it really 816 00:40:36,480 --> 00:40:39,120 Speaker 1: played out that way. In the first half. I saw 817 00:40:39,160 --> 00:40:42,400 Speaker 1: Cleveland do a couple of things. They basically had a 818 00:40:42,440 --> 00:40:46,400 Speaker 1: couple of safety is just hanging back, almost playing like 819 00:40:46,440 --> 00:40:49,279 Speaker 1: a prevent type defense that were sort of forcing Big 820 00:40:49,320 --> 00:40:52,560 Speaker 1: Ben too watch the field, and they were throwing a 821 00:40:52,680 --> 00:40:56,279 Speaker 1: crazy blitz packages Adam left and right, and you take 822 00:40:56,320 --> 00:40:59,640 Speaker 1: away that blocked punt for a touchdown. This game is 823 00:40:59,680 --> 00:41:03,279 Speaker 1: eight in fourteen. And here's the thing. If you look 824 00:41:03,320 --> 00:41:06,200 Speaker 1: at what Pittsburgh was able to accomplish and not accomplish 825 00:41:06,239 --> 00:41:11,160 Speaker 1: on offense. It was a massive like output by Antonio Brown, 826 00:41:11,400 --> 00:41:13,640 Speaker 1: who blew up right before the half and never never 827 00:41:13,680 --> 00:41:17,200 Speaker 1: settled down after that. But Levy on Bell on the 828 00:41:17,200 --> 00:41:19,640 Speaker 1: field for the majority of the game was bottled up 829 00:41:19,640 --> 00:41:24,040 Speaker 1: from start to finish. And really, honestly, Cleveland came close 830 00:41:24,080 --> 00:41:26,600 Speaker 1: to taking this thing. It's just that they don't really 831 00:41:26,600 --> 00:41:29,439 Speaker 1: seem to have the weapons themselves to go and take 832 00:41:29,480 --> 00:41:32,480 Speaker 1: advantage of a game where Pittsburgh's not on top of 833 00:41:32,480 --> 00:41:34,359 Speaker 1: its own. Well, it's another game. Neither one of these 834 00:41:34,360 --> 00:41:37,279 Speaker 1: teams went over yards. That is a weird game. That 835 00:41:37,360 --> 00:41:40,480 Speaker 1: is a there's a lot of defense dominated weeks. Uh. 836 00:41:40,520 --> 00:41:43,560 Speaker 1: Antonio Brown eleven for one eight two and he made 837 00:41:43,600 --> 00:41:46,839 Speaker 1: the big play of the game at the end to play. 838 00:41:46,920 --> 00:41:50,680 Speaker 1: He he crosses across the entire field. UH leaps for 839 00:41:50,719 --> 00:41:53,640 Speaker 1: a ball in coverage and that's why he's arguably the 840 00:41:53,680 --> 00:41:55,719 Speaker 1: best wide receiver in the league. He comes down with 841 00:41:55,760 --> 00:41:58,440 Speaker 1: the ball and that really sealed the game. Mark. What 842 00:41:58,480 --> 00:42:01,080 Speaker 1: were your thoughts on deshaunk Eiser in his first start. 843 00:42:01,120 --> 00:42:03,359 Speaker 1: He did throw a couple of or score a couple 844 00:42:03,400 --> 00:42:05,399 Speaker 1: of touchdowns. He seemed to do some good things. It 845 00:42:05,560 --> 00:42:09,600 Speaker 1: was i cannot a Cleveland has not one and opener 846 00:42:09,640 --> 00:42:12,080 Speaker 1: since two thousand and four, which everyone knows at this point. 847 00:42:12,480 --> 00:42:16,279 Speaker 1: But it was the most promising I really. I feel 848 00:42:16,280 --> 00:42:19,279 Speaker 1: like it's just been hammered into people's minds, it's been 849 00:42:20,040 --> 00:42:23,040 Speaker 1: hammered into mine. But it was Jeff Garcia, of all 850 00:42:23,040 --> 00:42:25,319 Speaker 1: people that won that game back then, way back when. 851 00:42:25,719 --> 00:42:30,319 Speaker 1: I have not seen a more promising rookie debut by 852 00:42:30,320 --> 00:42:34,000 Speaker 1: a Browns quarterback that includes Tim Couch, that includes anyone 853 00:42:34,080 --> 00:42:36,680 Speaker 1: dating back to the return of the league. It was 854 00:42:36,760 --> 00:42:40,600 Speaker 1: not perfect. They did not protect. What I liked about 855 00:42:40,640 --> 00:42:43,239 Speaker 1: it was that sacks seven times, some of them were 856 00:42:43,280 --> 00:42:45,239 Speaker 1: his own fault, but just kept getting back up, just 857 00:42:45,280 --> 00:42:47,600 Speaker 1: like he did in the preseason. I think that he's 858 00:42:47,640 --> 00:42:49,960 Speaker 1: got a demeanor about him on the field where he 859 00:42:50,360 --> 00:42:52,840 Speaker 1: doesn't freak out in the pocket. He looks off his 860 00:42:52,960 --> 00:42:56,040 Speaker 1: first receiver, he'll find a second. He showed chemistry with 861 00:42:56,120 --> 00:42:58,640 Speaker 1: Corey Coleman and a few other Browns receivers as well. 862 00:42:58,840 --> 00:43:01,080 Speaker 1: I honestly think that there's something to take away from 863 00:43:01,080 --> 00:43:03,440 Speaker 1: this game that you can grow on. And I do 864 00:43:03,520 --> 00:43:05,279 Speaker 1: think he's gonna have a couple of games where he 865 00:43:05,320 --> 00:43:08,520 Speaker 1: will surprise people and knock out a favorite team or two, 866 00:43:08,560 --> 00:43:11,319 Speaker 1: and he might not have the crazy pressure. I know 867 00:43:11,360 --> 00:43:14,040 Speaker 1: it's not a good team, but the crazy pressure that 868 00:43:14,080 --> 00:43:16,600 Speaker 1: a lot of Brown's quarterbacks have had. Because I agree 869 00:43:16,600 --> 00:43:18,640 Speaker 1: with in his offensive line play better, you would think 870 00:43:18,680 --> 00:43:21,080 Speaker 1: that they can play even better. Can the defense be better? 871 00:43:21,120 --> 00:43:24,480 Speaker 1: I know it's only one week, but they gave up 872 00:43:24,600 --> 00:43:28,239 Speaker 1: fewer yards mark in this game than they did in 873 00:43:28,360 --> 00:43:31,919 Speaker 1: any game of all of last season. They also gave 874 00:43:32,040 --> 00:43:35,680 Speaker 1: up fewer yards. The Steelers had fewer yards than almost 875 00:43:35,680 --> 00:43:37,040 Speaker 1: any one of their games. It would have been their 876 00:43:37,080 --> 00:43:39,440 Speaker 1: second or third worst game if for the Steelers office. 877 00:43:39,440 --> 00:43:42,360 Speaker 1: So that's that's that's big. They only gave up twenty 878 00:43:42,440 --> 00:43:44,760 Speaker 1: one points or less one time all of last season, 879 00:43:44,800 --> 00:43:47,400 Speaker 1: So it was an embarrassing defense last year, and this 880 00:43:47,480 --> 00:43:50,280 Speaker 1: was not embarrassing. But by any stretch, no, they look different. 881 00:43:50,280 --> 00:43:52,960 Speaker 1: They're actually tackling people and stopping the run, which was 882 00:43:53,040 --> 00:43:56,719 Speaker 1: not present last year. M two more notes. They have 883 00:43:56,800 --> 00:43:58,480 Speaker 1: to clean that up with Kaislo. If he's gonna get 884 00:43:58,480 --> 00:44:00,839 Speaker 1: sacked seven times a game, not gonna stay healthy. We've 885 00:44:00,840 --> 00:44:03,520 Speaker 1: seen this with Cleveland with injuries at the quarterback position. 886 00:44:03,560 --> 00:44:05,920 Speaker 1: We already know their depth. He also puts himself and 887 00:44:05,920 --> 00:44:08,280 Speaker 1: he puts himself in danger. He had two runs today 888 00:44:08,280 --> 00:44:10,920 Speaker 1: where he got hit heavily. When you've got to you've 889 00:44:10,920 --> 00:44:14,600 Speaker 1: got to be sliding. And finally, um T J. Watt 890 00:44:15,200 --> 00:44:18,160 Speaker 1: two sacks and the interception of his debut. So the 891 00:44:18,680 --> 00:44:20,520 Speaker 1: big summer hype seems to be paying off, and Big 892 00:44:20,560 --> 00:44:23,280 Speaker 1: Ben does I'm prove to twenty one and two against 893 00:44:23,320 --> 00:44:26,800 Speaker 1: the Indie uh from Indians against the Browns in his career. 894 00:44:27,120 --> 00:44:29,560 Speaker 1: Wasn't there a T. J. Watt sandwich prop or something? 895 00:44:29,600 --> 00:44:31,319 Speaker 1: Did West throw that out there that he's gonna get 896 00:44:31,320 --> 00:44:34,600 Speaker 1: more than J. J. Watt? My crazy? It sounds crampy 897 00:44:34,600 --> 00:44:37,600 Speaker 1: because I don't remember that. Maybe that's another podcast you do, Greg, 898 00:44:37,640 --> 00:44:41,160 Speaker 1: I don't know. Let's move on. Newton with his arms outstretched, 899 00:44:41,440 --> 00:44:45,279 Speaker 1: fists balled up, indicating a possible play change single high 900 00:44:45,280 --> 00:44:48,200 Speaker 1: safety looks saying France Newton from her muddy pocket, flicks 901 00:44:48,200 --> 00:44:50,920 Speaker 1: a pass caught left side, deep down the sideline. Russell 902 00:44:51,000 --> 00:44:55,320 Speaker 1: Shepherd breaks away and we'll store a touchdown Carolina Panthers 903 00:44:55,480 --> 00:45:00,640 Speaker 1: forty yards Cam Newton to Russell Shepherd. That's called a bus. 904 00:45:00,680 --> 00:45:03,400 Speaker 1: So far, so good for Cam Newton and his surgically 905 00:45:03,400 --> 00:45:07,120 Speaker 1: repaired shoulder, he threw touchdown passes. He threw two touchdown passes, 906 00:45:07,120 --> 00:45:09,840 Speaker 1: and the Panthers defense did the rest in a three 907 00:45:09,920 --> 00:45:13,960 Speaker 1: win over the forty Niners and Kyle Shanahan's head coaching debut. Mark, 908 00:45:14,320 --> 00:45:16,520 Speaker 1: This was supposed to be a season of renewed hope 909 00:45:16,560 --> 00:45:18,480 Speaker 1: by the Bay. That may still be the case, but 910 00:45:18,560 --> 00:45:20,759 Speaker 1: Sunday just felt like more of the same for a 911 00:45:20,760 --> 00:45:25,520 Speaker 1: scuffling organization. Well, they ran into an excellent defense and 912 00:45:26,000 --> 00:45:29,040 Speaker 1: it was the kind of performance by Carolina that will 913 00:45:29,080 --> 00:45:32,000 Speaker 1: always expose a quarterback like Brian Hoyer who was not 914 00:45:32,080 --> 00:45:35,560 Speaker 1: protected well but also creates his own issues. And you 915 00:45:35,560 --> 00:45:38,319 Speaker 1: know he does. He does. And I was having flashbacks 916 00:45:38,360 --> 00:45:40,600 Speaker 1: listening to Mark watch this game, and he was just like, 917 00:45:40,640 --> 00:45:43,400 Speaker 1: oh Hoyer, Well it's Yer, not another Hoyer. It was 918 00:45:43,400 --> 00:45:45,640 Speaker 1: a lot of Hoyer. It was frustrating. Although I found 919 00:45:45,680 --> 00:45:48,160 Speaker 1: Cam Newton to be I think Panthers fans would have 920 00:45:48,160 --> 00:45:50,799 Speaker 1: been frustrated by his performance, especially in the first half. 921 00:45:50,840 --> 00:45:53,000 Speaker 1: He seemed to warm up as the game went on. 922 00:45:53,120 --> 00:45:55,359 Speaker 1: In the entire offense sort of came into its own 923 00:45:55,800 --> 00:45:58,320 Speaker 1: later on. But I think that happened against the forty Niners. 924 00:45:58,360 --> 00:46:00,720 Speaker 1: Team was sort of broken by the end the third quarter. 925 00:46:01,040 --> 00:46:03,160 Speaker 1: This game feltically it was six hours long. Let me 926 00:46:03,200 --> 00:46:06,120 Speaker 1: note that. But Newton to me, he missed a wide 927 00:46:06,160 --> 00:46:08,680 Speaker 1: open at at Dixon in the end zone. He had 928 00:46:08,719 --> 00:46:11,080 Speaker 1: a couple of throws, one to Calvin Benjamin in a 929 00:46:11,160 --> 00:46:14,160 Speaker 1: deep shot that was intercepted. Uh in a in a 930 00:46:14,200 --> 00:46:19,399 Speaker 1: way a beautiful a beautiful, beautiful interception by Jakiski Tart. 931 00:46:19,440 --> 00:46:22,400 Speaker 1: Jakrisky Tart forty nine or safety one of the players 932 00:46:22,400 --> 00:46:24,680 Speaker 1: of the day. I don't camp Camp to me was 933 00:46:24,760 --> 00:46:26,880 Speaker 1: not all there at all. He moved well, but he 934 00:46:27,080 --> 00:46:29,480 Speaker 1: is not seeing the field perfectly yet and it's going 935 00:46:29,520 --> 00:46:31,000 Speaker 1: to take a few more weeks to play The Bills 936 00:46:31,040 --> 00:46:33,720 Speaker 1: next week. Had McCaffrey look in his debut, He seemed 937 00:46:33,719 --> 00:46:36,960 Speaker 1: to be a big part of the offense as we expected. No, 938 00:46:37,360 --> 00:46:39,799 Speaker 1: not a breakout effort by any means. Yeah, I think 939 00:46:39,800 --> 00:46:43,160 Speaker 1: he was. I would say he was largely bottled up, 940 00:46:43,200 --> 00:46:45,480 Speaker 1: maybe strong, but he didn't have one of these sort 941 00:46:45,520 --> 00:46:48,920 Speaker 1: of flashy forty five yard breakaway runs. But it is 942 00:46:49,000 --> 00:46:51,880 Speaker 1: so clear that he is going to have a massive 943 00:46:51,920 --> 00:46:54,600 Speaker 1: workload from week to week. But along with that, saying 944 00:46:54,600 --> 00:46:56,400 Speaker 1: with Jonathan Stewart. I think they're going to find a 945 00:46:56,440 --> 00:47:00,080 Speaker 1: way to use them both. And there was one Oh, 946 00:47:00,120 --> 00:47:01,520 Speaker 1: I think they love to do that in this and 947 00:47:01,560 --> 00:47:03,840 Speaker 1: they and there was a screen pass to Jonathan Stewart 948 00:47:04,040 --> 00:47:07,560 Speaker 1: that was successful in my mind, specifically because McCaffrey was 949 00:47:07,640 --> 00:47:10,600 Speaker 1: on the field and causing concerns for that defense. Jack 950 00:47:10,640 --> 00:47:12,879 Speaker 1: Thompson they used as a pass thrusher had a big 951 00:47:12,880 --> 00:47:17,520 Speaker 1: game overall. If they could add him to Davis and Keithley, 952 00:47:17,640 --> 00:47:20,040 Speaker 1: that's the best linebacker group in the league, and then 953 00:47:20,320 --> 00:47:24,800 Speaker 1: Wes Horton and load of Layla and Peppers and Kwan Short, 954 00:47:25,360 --> 00:47:28,399 Speaker 1: they might not need Cam Newton to be crazy good 955 00:47:28,520 --> 00:47:30,800 Speaker 1: right away. I think they've got the defense and running 956 00:47:30,840 --> 00:47:34,600 Speaker 1: formula that Ron rivera wire. Yeah. I didn't really think 957 00:47:34,640 --> 00:47:36,560 Speaker 1: this much, but it kind of maybe just seeing it 958 00:47:36,640 --> 00:47:39,000 Speaker 1: in action in Week one. I kind of like Carolyn 959 00:47:39,200 --> 00:47:42,120 Speaker 1: Carolina is a bounce back team this season. If the 960 00:47:42,160 --> 00:47:44,920 Speaker 1: defense is gonna be good and Cam is healthy and 961 00:47:45,000 --> 00:47:47,799 Speaker 1: McCaffrey is gonna break out and have big games, and 962 00:47:47,880 --> 00:47:50,200 Speaker 1: you've got they look good at parts. You've got a 963 00:47:50,200 --> 00:47:53,840 Speaker 1: Hall of Fame linebacker as long as he stays healthy 964 00:47:54,000 --> 00:47:57,600 Speaker 1: at his absolute apex right in the middle of that thing. Uh, 965 00:47:57,640 --> 00:48:01,320 Speaker 1: there you go. Let's uh move on to Oh yeah, baby, 966 00:48:01,560 --> 00:48:04,640 Speaker 1: it's the rebuilding Bowl now. Marco the full back is 967 00:48:04,680 --> 00:48:06,839 Speaker 1: hand and they're gonna flank him out to the left side. 968 00:48:06,920 --> 00:48:09,840 Speaker 1: McCoy the tailback first and goal from the two. Tyrod 969 00:48:09,880 --> 00:48:13,120 Speaker 1: gonna throw it, fires a short caught in the endo, touchdown. 970 00:48:13,200 --> 00:48:18,160 Speaker 1: Andre Holmes homes to the house. Touchdown Buffalo. They came 971 00:48:18,200 --> 00:48:20,600 Speaker 1: from the right side, Merbs, so they faked to hand 972 00:48:20,680 --> 00:48:23,680 Speaker 1: up go play action pass Charles Place to the back 973 00:48:23,719 --> 00:48:26,200 Speaker 1: of the end line, which two of the coverage and 974 00:48:26,280 --> 00:48:30,760 Speaker 1: here comes Andre Holmes underneath. Tyrod buys time with his legs. 975 00:48:31,040 --> 00:48:34,080 Speaker 1: It just delivers a float into Andre Holmes. He walks 976 00:48:34,080 --> 00:48:38,840 Speaker 1: in on touch touchdown Buffalo. Tyrod Taylor threw two touchdown 977 00:48:38,880 --> 00:48:41,600 Speaker 1: passes and the Bill's defense had no trouble stifling the 978 00:48:41,680 --> 00:48:46,399 Speaker 1: Jets a twelve win at Orchard Park. Sean McDermott wins 979 00:48:46,400 --> 00:48:49,080 Speaker 1: and his head coaching debut in the Jets. Uh looked 980 00:48:49,080 --> 00:48:51,160 Speaker 1: comfortable in what should be a familiar role for them 981 00:48:51,160 --> 00:48:55,239 Speaker 1: this season. Uh In truth, gentleman, does that mean they 982 00:48:55,239 --> 00:48:58,719 Speaker 1: looked comfortable? Is a loser paying second? We were just 983 00:48:58,800 --> 00:49:01,919 Speaker 1: like that that was a bad It's like they I'll 984 00:49:01,920 --> 00:49:03,920 Speaker 1: tell you what, they played hard for Todd Bowls. You 985 00:49:03,920 --> 00:49:06,759 Speaker 1: could tell this was a team that uh it wasn't 986 00:49:06,800 --> 00:49:09,200 Speaker 1: in their mailing, in their effort, but it just it 987 00:49:09,360 --> 00:49:11,279 Speaker 1: just there's so much against this team. They just don't 988 00:49:11,280 --> 00:49:12,680 Speaker 1: have the talent on the field. And you see it 989 00:49:12,719 --> 00:49:16,160 Speaker 1: even against the Bills, team that we know isn't going anywhere. 990 00:49:16,360 --> 00:49:19,200 Speaker 1: Because in truth and a nine point defeat is a 991 00:49:19,200 --> 00:49:22,239 Speaker 1: small victory for the Jets. They were dominated by the Bills. Uh. 992 00:49:22,280 --> 00:49:25,880 Speaker 1: They nearly doubled up the Jets in total yards. Uh 993 00:49:25,920 --> 00:49:28,399 Speaker 1: if the Bills were a little more uh efficient as 994 00:49:28,400 --> 00:49:31,440 Speaker 1: a team, this is probably you know, a thirty to 995 00:49:31,560 --> 00:49:35,480 Speaker 1: ten type game. But they got it done anyway. So 996 00:49:36,560 --> 00:49:39,680 Speaker 1: you know, in terms of takeaways, I I guess I'll 997 00:49:40,080 --> 00:49:42,719 Speaker 1: I think it's time to throw it. So, my dad, 998 00:49:43,160 --> 00:49:46,160 Speaker 1: Keith Hanss, who is uh you know, if you're new 999 00:49:46,200 --> 00:49:51,080 Speaker 1: to the podcast, my dad is a Bronx native. Who. Uh, 1000 00:49:51,120 --> 00:49:53,840 Speaker 1: if you grew up in the Bronx in the nineteen fifties, 1001 00:49:54,680 --> 00:49:57,440 Speaker 1: you were definitely a Yankees fan and you were probably 1002 00:49:57,440 --> 00:50:01,040 Speaker 1: a Giants fan who also played it um Yankee Stadium 1003 00:50:01,080 --> 00:50:04,800 Speaker 1: in the Bronx but my dad was brought to the 1004 00:50:04,880 --> 00:50:07,960 Speaker 1: Jets by Joe namath and and his flair, and he 1005 00:50:08,080 --> 00:50:10,640 Speaker 1: drafted me into this. He got Super Bowl three. I 1006 00:50:10,719 --> 00:50:14,399 Speaker 1: never got any of that. Uh. But uh, I've I've 1007 00:50:14,400 --> 00:50:16,239 Speaker 1: been stuck with this team. I'm now passing down to 1008 00:50:16,280 --> 00:50:19,200 Speaker 1: my two sons. I don't know why, but I am. 1009 00:50:19,239 --> 00:50:21,600 Speaker 1: But Keiths been there through all the ups and downs, 1010 00:50:21,640 --> 00:50:28,160 Speaker 1: mostly down. So let's check in with dad. His name 1011 00:50:28,280 --> 00:50:33,160 Speaker 1: is Keith, He's dance Dad. He'll doubt about it. He's 1012 00:50:33,200 --> 00:50:37,359 Speaker 1: a league Jets fan. What is he going to say 1013 00:50:37,600 --> 00:50:41,799 Speaker 1: bull game to say? What is he going to bull 1014 00:50:41,880 --> 00:50:48,880 Speaker 1: happing game to say? The Jets Bills This afternoon, Bold 1015 00:50:49,000 --> 00:50:52,719 Speaker 1: had the Jets playing hard, but Taylor and McCoy would 1016 00:50:52,719 --> 00:50:56,160 Speaker 1: get too much for the Jet defense. The Jet offense 1017 00:50:56,320 --> 00:51:00,400 Speaker 1: was terrible. Uh. The gown is accurate but short asking 1018 00:51:00,400 --> 00:51:04,319 Speaker 1: but unable to throw deep. Probably good with personnel. On 1019 00:51:04,360 --> 00:51:07,640 Speaker 1: a bright side, Churs was was pretty good as wide 1020 00:51:07,640 --> 00:51:10,400 Speaker 1: receiver and stepped in there and look good. Uh. My 1021 00:51:10,560 --> 00:51:14,520 Speaker 1: question on the offense also was where was while pout 1022 00:51:15,320 --> 00:51:18,479 Speaker 1: seems a little slow when the offensive lines uh didn't 1023 00:51:18,480 --> 00:51:20,520 Speaker 1: seem to be able to open up any holes either, 1024 00:51:20,600 --> 00:51:26,400 Speaker 1: so it wasn't a very good effort offensively about the Jets, right, 1025 00:51:27,560 --> 00:51:29,239 Speaker 1: I like, did you think this at the end? Yeah, 1026 00:51:29,320 --> 00:51:31,239 Speaker 1: we should be thanking him. This is if you're if 1027 00:51:31,239 --> 00:51:34,800 Speaker 1: you're a stringer covering a sport, this is a tough assignment. 1028 00:51:34,840 --> 00:51:36,680 Speaker 1: He has this. I know, I feel like that was 1029 00:51:36,960 --> 00:51:40,440 Speaker 1: it sounded later in the season than week one, You 1030 00:51:40,440 --> 00:51:43,000 Speaker 1: know what I mean, Well, he's already been through the preseason. 1031 00:51:43,080 --> 00:51:45,160 Speaker 1: That's been long enough. If you're listen, if you're a 1032 00:51:45,239 --> 00:51:47,279 Speaker 1: Jets fan, Yeah, you had five and eleven, which was 1033 00:51:47,360 --> 00:51:49,520 Speaker 1: really a worse season than that. The five and eleven 1034 00:51:49,600 --> 00:51:54,600 Speaker 1: looks kind this offseason aged you just how utterly depressing 1035 00:51:54,640 --> 00:51:56,960 Speaker 1: it was as you sunk deeper and deeper into this 1036 00:51:57,080 --> 00:52:00,279 Speaker 1: long rebuild, bloodletting. And now the season arrived, and it 1037 00:52:00,280 --> 00:52:03,920 Speaker 1: starts with a pretty decisive loss against the bad team. Uh. 1038 00:52:03,960 --> 00:52:07,160 Speaker 1: To the point that my dad made about the running game, 1039 00:52:07,400 --> 00:52:10,360 Speaker 1: I don't really know what I understand. He had guaranteed 1040 00:52:10,400 --> 00:52:12,600 Speaker 1: money coming. I just don't understand mad Fortes role on 1041 00:52:12,640 --> 00:52:16,000 Speaker 1: this team. Uh he did, he just looked maybe two 1042 00:52:16,080 --> 00:52:20,000 Speaker 1: steps slow. Uh. And and the offense in general fifteen 1043 00:52:20,000 --> 00:52:21,960 Speaker 1: Carriacster thirty eight yards to a half of pop's not 1044 00:52:22,000 --> 00:52:25,480 Speaker 1: gonna get yards. I mean, so many of these games 1045 00:52:25,480 --> 00:52:27,960 Speaker 1: are just very strange, shot out of like an early 1046 00:52:28,040 --> 00:52:32,520 Speaker 1: nineteen seventies cannon. But why why is Josh McCown throwing 1047 00:52:32,520 --> 00:52:34,480 Speaker 1: the ball thirty nine times in a game that was 1048 00:52:34,560 --> 00:52:38,600 Speaker 1: close up until I see I'm watching the game, and 1049 00:52:38,640 --> 00:52:40,840 Speaker 1: I didn't see it as some type of horrific breakdown 1050 00:52:40,840 --> 00:52:43,080 Speaker 1: and play calling. I think they they were playing from 1051 00:52:43,080 --> 00:52:45,439 Speaker 1: behind the entire game, just trying to get things going 1052 00:52:45,719 --> 00:52:48,240 Speaker 1: on the Buffalo side of the ball. I thought Tyrod 1053 00:52:48,239 --> 00:52:51,120 Speaker 1: Taylor looked good. Again. I don't quite get the hate 1054 00:52:51,120 --> 00:52:53,640 Speaker 1: the Tyrod Taylor gets because every time I see him 1055 00:52:53,640 --> 00:52:56,040 Speaker 1: play with the Jets, he makes plays. Uh, he makes 1056 00:52:56,040 --> 00:52:58,239 Speaker 1: plays with his feet. He can make throws. I know 1057 00:52:58,320 --> 00:53:00,839 Speaker 1: he's not He's not Steve Young in terms of accuracy, 1058 00:53:00,880 --> 00:53:02,919 Speaker 1: but the guy makes every time I see him play, 1059 00:53:02,960 --> 00:53:05,239 Speaker 1: he makes a couple of guys miss and that's why 1060 00:53:05,280 --> 00:53:08,640 Speaker 1: he's the best running quarterback in football. I I think 1061 00:53:08,760 --> 00:53:10,840 Speaker 1: if you're a Bills fan, I know it's the Jets, 1062 00:53:10,840 --> 00:53:14,400 Speaker 1: but you have to be really encouraged after the preseason 1063 00:53:14,440 --> 00:53:17,040 Speaker 1: that they had for all the troubles that the Jets have, 1064 00:53:17,080 --> 00:53:19,320 Speaker 1: and everyone makes fun of them that's mostly on offense. 1065 00:53:19,360 --> 00:53:21,879 Speaker 1: I'm not saying they're great defense, but they're not. They're 1066 00:53:21,920 --> 00:53:25,040 Speaker 1: not an embarrassing defense entire Rode after the preseason that 1067 00:53:25,080 --> 00:53:27,080 Speaker 1: he had and the concussion to go out there and 1068 00:53:27,160 --> 00:53:29,080 Speaker 1: lead a team to four hundred yards of offense, to 1069 00:53:29,120 --> 00:53:31,560 Speaker 1: throw for eight yards per tempt, and for the team 1070 00:53:31,640 --> 00:53:33,800 Speaker 1: to run for a hundred and ninety yards. This looks 1071 00:53:33,840 --> 00:53:38,000 Speaker 1: like out of the ninety two thousand and sixteen Bills playbook, 1072 00:53:38,040 --> 00:53:39,839 Speaker 1: where they're the number one rushing team in the league. 1073 00:53:39,920 --> 00:53:44,560 Speaker 1: Jets missed Sheldon Richardson, who they traded. Uh, encouraging, Well, 1074 00:53:46,560 --> 00:53:48,279 Speaker 1: you gotta feel a little bit of hope they'll coming 1075 00:53:48,280 --> 00:53:50,000 Speaker 1: out of that, Like, Okay, this is a perfect game 1076 00:53:50,040 --> 00:53:52,000 Speaker 1: to start at home against the Jets. Let's face it, 1077 00:53:52,080 --> 00:53:54,560 Speaker 1: but the Buffalo running games really deal. Let Sewn McCoy 1078 00:53:54,600 --> 00:53:58,240 Speaker 1: looks like as good as he ever was. I wonder, uh, 1079 00:53:58,280 --> 00:54:00,920 Speaker 1: if they're truly in it to lose it, like the 1080 00:54:01,000 --> 00:54:04,320 Speaker 1: Jets with a rebuild. If McCoy has some trade value 1081 00:54:04,880 --> 00:54:07,359 Speaker 1: before he gets hurt, he's so, he's so nothing they're 1082 00:54:07,360 --> 00:54:10,440 Speaker 1: trying to I really don't Yeah, maybe they're not. And 1083 00:54:11,160 --> 00:54:13,239 Speaker 1: then one other interesting thing is Mike Tilbert had a 1084 00:54:13,280 --> 00:54:16,680 Speaker 1: really beefy role in the running game. He had twelve carries, 1085 00:54:16,719 --> 00:54:20,120 Speaker 1: he scored a touchdown. So the Bills looked very capable 1086 00:54:20,160 --> 00:54:23,160 Speaker 1: against the Jets. Let's see what happens when they're against uh, 1087 00:54:23,239 --> 00:54:27,080 Speaker 1: you know, better opponents. Let's move on. Here comes the 1088 00:54:27,160 --> 00:54:29,719 Speaker 1: pressure for the Rams. Tol Zine gets it out far 1089 00:54:29,880 --> 00:54:36,160 Speaker 1: side today, jumpson, picks it off ten picks six a 1090 00:54:38,160 --> 00:54:41,520 Speaker 1: new season, new l A Rams Jared Goff passed for 1091 00:54:41,520 --> 00:54:44,760 Speaker 1: a career high three hundred and six yards and a touchdown. 1092 00:54:44,800 --> 00:54:47,600 Speaker 1: It's his first one. Is an NFL starter my own. Uh. 1093 00:54:47,600 --> 00:54:50,760 Speaker 1: The l A Rams embarrassed the Indianapolis Colts forty six 1094 00:54:50,960 --> 00:54:54,719 Speaker 1: nine at the call seems shot. Sean McVeigh could not 1095 00:54:54,800 --> 00:54:56,759 Speaker 1: have asked for a better debut as a head coach, 1096 00:54:56,760 --> 00:55:09,480 Speaker 1: and Scott Tolzine, yes, started starting quarterback. Actually somehow went 1097 00:55:10,280 --> 00:55:14,600 Speaker 1: worse than expected for all Scott Hull Greg Yeah, the 1098 00:55:14,760 --> 00:55:19,520 Speaker 1: early pick six, I mean, the sacks, everything was bad. 1099 00:55:19,520 --> 00:55:23,040 Speaker 1: But you gotta give credit to the Rams. And I 1100 00:55:23,080 --> 00:55:27,239 Speaker 1: could hear the cheering all the way from the from 1101 00:55:27,280 --> 00:55:33,160 Speaker 1: the newsroom. Chris Wesseling over at his paramour's abode and 1102 00:55:34,160 --> 00:55:36,680 Speaker 1: they're getting excited, and people say, oh, well, it's just 1103 00:55:36,719 --> 00:55:39,200 Speaker 1: Scott Tolzine and the Colts. Well, you know what, last 1104 00:55:39,280 --> 00:55:41,880 Speaker 1: year's Rams weren't blowing out anyone. The last game we 1105 00:55:41,920 --> 00:55:44,040 Speaker 1: saw like this in the Colosseum, it was the Rams 1106 00:55:44,080 --> 00:55:47,319 Speaker 1: that are getting blown out by the Atlanta Falcons. And 1107 00:55:47,360 --> 00:55:49,799 Speaker 1: what's a good sign of a solid team you blow 1108 00:55:49,840 --> 00:55:52,680 Speaker 1: out the bad teams. I think this team is exciting. 1109 00:55:52,719 --> 00:55:54,759 Speaker 1: I even smell a little whiff of team of a 1110 00:55:54,880 --> 00:55:58,200 Speaker 1: t L with this, because I think West is probably 1111 00:55:58,200 --> 00:56:01,200 Speaker 1: getting into him and I think Wade Phillips gets me 1112 00:56:01,280 --> 00:56:04,480 Speaker 1: going a little bit. And it's just that they've it's 1113 00:56:04,480 --> 00:56:06,880 Speaker 1: been so bad to watch that and once you and 1114 00:56:07,120 --> 00:56:09,279 Speaker 1: once Gregg and West have decided on the Team of eight, 1115 00:56:09,320 --> 00:56:13,840 Speaker 1: time have no turning back. So that's the right ahead, 1116 00:56:14,040 --> 00:56:16,120 Speaker 1: go ahead. I was gonna say that I am totally 1117 00:56:16,160 --> 00:56:18,279 Speaker 1: with you in the sense that, yeah, the cults are 1118 00:56:18,360 --> 00:56:19,960 Speaker 1: dreadful and I don't want to hear it by the 1119 00:56:19,960 --> 00:56:23,360 Speaker 1: way I subjected on this podcast and elsewhere. Oh the 1120 00:56:23,400 --> 00:56:25,919 Speaker 1: culture making all the right moves. I know Andrew luck 1121 00:56:26,440 --> 00:56:30,239 Speaker 1: is a huge, huge missing piece of the pie puzzle here, 1122 00:56:30,280 --> 00:56:32,719 Speaker 1: but he you know, this team looked like they were 1123 00:56:32,760 --> 00:56:35,000 Speaker 1: worse than the Jets today and it wasn't necessarily close, 1124 00:56:35,280 --> 00:56:37,600 Speaker 1: but the Rams taking care of business. They don't look 1125 00:56:38,040 --> 00:56:40,440 Speaker 1: this doesn't look like a flukey win for the Rams. 1126 00:56:40,440 --> 00:56:43,239 Speaker 1: They looked like very much like a good team. And 1127 00:56:43,360 --> 00:56:46,080 Speaker 1: a lot of that me was Jared Goff looked like 1128 00:56:46,120 --> 00:56:50,440 Speaker 1: a real quarterback and for the first time post Jeff Fisher, 1129 00:56:50,440 --> 00:56:52,799 Speaker 1: because it never happened during Jeff Fisher's reign in that 1130 00:56:53,000 --> 00:56:57,480 Speaker 1: in that city, Cooper Cup, Sammy Watkins, you're adding players 1131 00:56:57,520 --> 00:57:01,640 Speaker 1: around a young quarterback that Hooper Cup is the absolutely 1132 00:57:01,719 --> 00:57:05,040 Speaker 1: perfect security blanket who makes in some incredible catches today. 1133 00:57:05,280 --> 00:57:07,520 Speaker 1: And he looked just like the guy we saw and 1134 00:57:07,760 --> 00:57:10,680 Speaker 1: he is good enough where golf trusts him to just 1135 00:57:10,840 --> 00:57:13,160 Speaker 1: kind of throw the ball up and cuk Cup is 1136 00:57:13,200 --> 00:57:16,800 Speaker 1: making a contested catch or he's making a one handed catch. 1137 00:57:17,000 --> 00:57:18,720 Speaker 1: I think he could lead this team and receiving. He 1138 00:57:18,800 --> 00:57:23,200 Speaker 1: did it on Sunday. And they're just the creativity and 1139 00:57:23,280 --> 00:57:25,600 Speaker 1: the way that they're coaching golf. Like there's one play 1140 00:57:25,640 --> 00:57:27,919 Speaker 1: where they're they're faking an end around and then they're 1141 00:57:27,920 --> 00:57:30,520 Speaker 1: faking something else and then suddenly you got a wide 1142 00:57:30,520 --> 00:57:32,280 Speaker 1: open receiver in the middle of the field because of 1143 00:57:32,280 --> 00:57:34,320 Speaker 1: all that action, and it gets it easy to find 1144 00:57:34,480 --> 00:57:37,160 Speaker 1: throw for golf that he can execute. He was very 1145 00:57:37,160 --> 00:57:40,240 Speaker 1: solid to I am concerned. I'm just looking at the 1146 00:57:40,240 --> 00:57:42,280 Speaker 1: box score. I'm gonna go watch this game later. But 1147 00:57:42,520 --> 00:57:47,160 Speaker 1: Todd Gurley, this looks like another nightmare scenario. Nineteen carries 1148 00:57:47,240 --> 00:57:49,600 Speaker 1: for forty yards two point one? Is it? Is there 1149 00:57:49,600 --> 00:57:51,720 Speaker 1: a mirage there is there's something else attached to that. 1150 00:57:51,720 --> 00:57:54,080 Speaker 1: That's a lot of carries for not a lot of yards. Yeah. Early, 1151 00:57:54,160 --> 00:57:57,600 Speaker 1: and you know a lot of those poor carries were 1152 00:57:57,680 --> 00:57:59,560 Speaker 1: in the second half when they kind of knew that 1153 00:57:59,600 --> 00:58:01,920 Speaker 1: they were on, especially in the third quarter. But I 1154 00:58:01,920 --> 00:58:05,480 Speaker 1: wouldn't say that he stood out in any particular way 1155 00:58:05,680 --> 00:58:08,080 Speaker 1: early in the game either. He just was kind of 1156 00:58:08,080 --> 00:58:09,800 Speaker 1: a work course. He did catch the ball a lot 1157 00:58:09,840 --> 00:58:12,480 Speaker 1: fifty six yards. You know, he has to show that 1158 00:58:12,520 --> 00:58:15,160 Speaker 1: he can be special, but I think other guys on 1159 00:58:15,200 --> 00:58:18,640 Speaker 1: the team showed it. Robert Quinn, who Phillips talked about 1160 00:58:18,680 --> 00:58:21,560 Speaker 1: as DeMarcus ware like uh in terms of the role 1161 00:58:21,720 --> 00:58:24,320 Speaker 1: and that the speed that he could have. He looked 1162 00:58:24,320 --> 00:58:27,440 Speaker 1: like he was back. And this front seven without Aaron 1163 00:58:27,480 --> 00:58:30,280 Speaker 1: Donald really just made it impossible for the Colts, And 1164 00:58:30,600 --> 00:58:33,400 Speaker 1: my last thought in this game, Chuck Flagano come back 1165 00:58:33,400 --> 00:58:35,800 Speaker 1: to us. I don't want to say there's a hot 1166 00:58:35,840 --> 00:58:38,840 Speaker 1: button involved with this guy, but one weekend, but I 1167 00:58:38,880 --> 00:58:42,800 Speaker 1: thought it was so emblematic of uh, my feelings about 1168 00:58:42,840 --> 00:58:46,280 Speaker 1: this guy. They're down ten nothing in the first quarter. Uh, 1169 00:58:46,320 --> 00:58:49,240 Speaker 1: they get a play Marlon mack Um should have a 1170 00:58:49,280 --> 00:58:53,040 Speaker 1: touchdown where he he clearly stays in bounds, hits the pylon. 1171 00:58:53,680 --> 00:58:57,600 Speaker 1: UH scores. He gets ruled erroneously out of bounds. Instead 1172 00:58:57,600 --> 00:59:00,600 Speaker 1: of taking a look at it, challenging it and getting 1173 00:59:00,640 --> 00:59:04,160 Speaker 1: seven points, he rushes his team to the line. Uh. 1174 00:59:04,240 --> 00:59:06,880 Speaker 1: They do a running play that loses yardage. They do 1175 00:59:06,920 --> 00:59:09,280 Speaker 1: another running play that loses yardage, and then a third 1176 00:59:09,320 --> 00:59:11,400 Speaker 1: down at the goal line, they have Scott Tolzine throw 1177 00:59:11,560 --> 00:59:14,320 Speaker 1: and he very nearly throws another interception. It was a 1178 00:59:15,400 --> 00:59:19,120 Speaker 1: It was a perfect microcosm of Chuck Pogano as a 1179 00:59:19,160 --> 00:59:21,640 Speaker 1: flawed head coach to me, because you have to have 1180 00:59:21,720 --> 00:59:23,680 Speaker 1: seven points in that spot and you take it away 1181 00:59:23,680 --> 00:59:25,840 Speaker 1: from the kid. Mac feels like an l A based 1182 00:59:25,960 --> 00:59:29,760 Speaker 1: you know, honorage to Jeff Fisher, a nod to what 1183 00:59:29,840 --> 00:59:32,240 Speaker 1: Fisher did with that team for years. Let's move on. 1184 00:59:32,560 --> 00:59:35,680 Speaker 1: Oh and one more thing about that Rams win guys 1185 00:59:39,280 --> 00:59:47,120 Speaker 1: that he locked it up. Oh, oh, good job Dan, whatever, Dan, 1186 00:59:47,480 --> 00:59:49,920 Speaker 1: an excellent job by you. Well, you know, maybe you 1187 00:59:49,920 --> 00:59:52,440 Speaker 1: should try it next week. Mark, didn't work out so 1188 00:59:52,520 --> 00:59:54,280 Speaker 1: good for you this week. Maybe I should have doubled 1189 00:59:54,320 --> 00:59:56,400 Speaker 1: up with you on that lock at. I didn't like 1190 00:59:56,440 --> 01:00:00,240 Speaker 1: that strategy by you. Worry about doubling up, but lock 1191 01:00:00,440 --> 01:00:11,160 Speaker 1: it doesn't matter on just Sunday Night. Sunday Night touchdown 1192 01:00:12,760 --> 01:00:17,240 Speaker 1: Dak Prescott's touchdown past to Jason Witten, old reliable was 1193 01:00:17,280 --> 01:00:20,680 Speaker 1: really all the Cowboys needed on Sunday Night football. The 1194 01:00:20,720 --> 01:00:24,400 Speaker 1: Giants didn't show up without Odell Beckham. Uh. Offense could 1195 01:00:24,440 --> 01:00:27,360 Speaker 1: not do anything. And when I say they can't do 1196 01:00:27,440 --> 01:00:30,200 Speaker 1: anything two three yards at total offense, there's that two 1197 01:00:30,240 --> 01:00:33,640 Speaker 1: hundred number again Boys. The final score nineteen to three, 1198 01:00:34,240 --> 01:00:39,280 Speaker 1: a easy victory, uh for the Dallas Cowboys. Mark Sezler, 1199 01:00:39,320 --> 01:00:42,520 Speaker 1: who moved to one And want to know and if 1200 01:00:42,560 --> 01:00:46,080 Speaker 1: you're a Giants fan, you have to be upset that 1201 01:00:46,160 --> 01:00:48,240 Speaker 1: the team didn't compete without its best player. And if 1202 01:00:48,240 --> 01:00:51,040 Speaker 1: you're a Cowboys fan, hey, you check a win against 1203 01:00:51,040 --> 01:00:53,120 Speaker 1: the Giants, which you didn't have one of last year yeah. 1204 01:00:53,120 --> 01:00:55,800 Speaker 1: I mean, this is a Cowboys team that we just 1205 01:00:55,840 --> 01:01:00,280 Speaker 1: spent the entire offseason in panic mode over their d fence, 1206 01:01:01,200 --> 01:01:04,520 Speaker 1: and suddenly you're the New York Giants weather Weather without 1207 01:01:04,520 --> 01:01:08,600 Speaker 1: Odell Beckham, a three point stinker and all the same issues. 1208 01:01:08,680 --> 01:01:10,920 Speaker 1: Is last year that I saw a running game that 1209 01:01:10,960 --> 01:01:14,200 Speaker 1: you cannot count on on any level, putting everything on 1210 01:01:14,280 --> 01:01:18,040 Speaker 1: Eli Manning to handle. When Brandon Marshall is your leading 1211 01:01:18,080 --> 01:01:25,040 Speaker 1: receiver in theory tonight, give me a break in what 1212 01:01:25,200 --> 01:01:27,840 Speaker 1: Carry's coming after me this year? You can't trust Carry. 1213 01:01:27,880 --> 01:01:33,200 Speaker 1: You don't know where I like, well, Mark almost We 1214 01:01:33,200 --> 01:01:35,280 Speaker 1: almost lost Mark by the end of last season. So 1215 01:01:35,640 --> 01:01:37,400 Speaker 1: I talked to Carry, so let's fix it up, and 1216 01:01:37,560 --> 01:01:41,240 Speaker 1: very famously rude and interrupting. And I can accept that 1217 01:01:41,240 --> 01:01:44,640 Speaker 1: Brandon Marshall only had two targets until a last meeting, 1218 01:01:44,880 --> 01:01:49,400 Speaker 1: meaningless garbage time drive, but he was hardly the only 1219 01:01:49,520 --> 01:01:52,240 Speaker 1: problem there. Eli Manning wasn't protected. Well, they don't. They 1220 01:01:52,240 --> 01:01:54,320 Speaker 1: didn't have a great power running game. You have to 1221 01:01:54,360 --> 01:01:58,160 Speaker 1: give the Cowboys defense though, some credit. This wasn't a 1222 01:01:58,200 --> 01:02:00,920 Speaker 1: defense that we thought was gonna be able to just 1223 01:02:00,960 --> 01:02:04,480 Speaker 1: shut down just about any team. And Sean Lee, it's 1224 01:02:04,480 --> 01:02:09,080 Speaker 1: a reminder, when he's healthy and flying around those pass 1225 01:02:09,160 --> 01:02:13,360 Speaker 1: patterns and just making life difficult for opposing quarterbacks posing 1226 01:02:13,480 --> 01:02:16,600 Speaker 1: running backs, what a difference maker he can be. Eli 1227 01:02:16,680 --> 01:02:20,480 Speaker 1: Manning finished in the Gabbard zone just about five point 1228 01:02:20,560 --> 01:02:23,520 Speaker 1: seven yards per tenth. Paul Perkins, who you know a 1229 01:02:23,520 --> 01:02:25,760 Speaker 1: lot of people talk themselves into in fantasy drafts as 1230 01:02:25,760 --> 01:02:27,840 Speaker 1: an option. Maybe he will be, but not tonight. His 1231 01:02:27,960 --> 01:02:31,400 Speaker 1: long rush was three yards. Brandon Marshall. Yes, that one 1232 01:02:31,440 --> 01:02:33,720 Speaker 1: catch comes in garbage time and you're you're saying to yourself, 1233 01:02:33,720 --> 01:02:36,320 Speaker 1: you're a Giants fan right now, you're saying Odell Beckham, 1234 01:02:36,400 --> 01:02:38,520 Speaker 1: I know he's our best player, but again, it it 1235 01:02:38,560 --> 01:02:40,280 Speaker 1: hammers home for a team that hasn't scored more than 1236 01:02:40,360 --> 01:02:44,240 Speaker 1: twenty points and seven games now, seven straight games dating 1237 01:02:44,280 --> 01:02:47,600 Speaker 1: back to last December. Uh, there's something wrong with your 1238 01:02:47,640 --> 01:02:50,840 Speaker 1: offense fundamentally if your best player walks out and then 1239 01:02:50,880 --> 01:02:52,640 Speaker 1: you're just got nothing. And Marshall was supposed to have 1240 01:02:52,680 --> 01:02:54,600 Speaker 1: a chance to step up today and he disappeared. Yeah, 1241 01:02:54,680 --> 01:02:57,720 Speaker 1: and on the flip side in Dallas, des Bryant was 1242 01:02:58,000 --> 01:03:01,240 Speaker 1: largely kept out of the game until late late when 1243 01:03:01,240 --> 01:03:03,800 Speaker 1: he had a thirty five yard grab at one point 1244 01:03:03,880 --> 01:03:06,760 Speaker 1: nine targets two catches. I mean, we knew that was 1245 01:03:06,800 --> 01:03:10,160 Speaker 1: a possibility with New York secondary, but it wasn't as 1246 01:03:10,200 --> 01:03:13,240 Speaker 1: if Dallas had everyone operating at you know, high octane 1247 01:03:13,240 --> 01:03:16,280 Speaker 1: pace either. No. I think Dak Prescott had some really 1248 01:03:16,360 --> 01:03:19,880 Speaker 1: mature moments. He he was going against what I believe 1249 01:03:19,960 --> 01:03:21,800 Speaker 1: is one of the best secondaries, one of the best 1250 01:03:21,840 --> 01:03:23,520 Speaker 1: defense in the league. If you're the Giants, you have 1251 01:03:23,560 --> 01:03:25,920 Speaker 1: to be happy. If you can keep the Cowboys to 1252 01:03:26,160 --> 01:03:30,000 Speaker 1: nineteen points, you know they they did their job. But 1253 01:03:30,080 --> 01:03:32,400 Speaker 1: the Giants offense on the flip side, it really was 1254 01:03:32,440 --> 01:03:34,919 Speaker 1: a theme and I suspect it will be a one 1255 01:03:35,000 --> 01:03:37,600 Speaker 1: week blip. But I just went and I crunched the numbers. Daniel. 1256 01:03:37,920 --> 01:03:40,760 Speaker 1: While we're doing this, half of the league was under 1257 01:03:40,880 --> 01:03:44,720 Speaker 1: three hundred yards this week. Only one team in the 1258 01:03:44,800 --> 01:03:47,560 Speaker 1: league all of last season average under three hundred yards. 1259 01:03:47,560 --> 01:03:50,360 Speaker 1: That was Jeff Fisher's Rams. So for whatever reason, half 1260 01:03:50,400 --> 01:03:54,400 Speaker 1: the league this week we're like the two thousand sixteen Rams. 1261 01:03:54,440 --> 01:03:56,000 Speaker 1: I don't think that'll keep up. I don't know, I 1262 01:03:56,000 --> 01:03:59,000 Speaker 1: don't even want to have it. Probably I have a theory. 1263 01:03:59,040 --> 01:04:01,120 Speaker 1: I think over the off seas and teams got together 1264 01:04:01,200 --> 01:04:04,680 Speaker 1: and said how do we maximize our operation. We do 1265 01:04:04,760 --> 01:04:07,200 Speaker 1: what Jeff Fisher, who was taken out of the league 1266 01:04:07,240 --> 01:04:09,760 Speaker 1: last year. We're gonna do what he does on offense. 1267 01:04:09,880 --> 01:04:11,920 Speaker 1: That's the new mode. And yeah, this is the new 1268 01:04:11,920 --> 01:04:16,919 Speaker 1: football Jeff. It's the Jeff Fisher era in the NFL. UM. Yeah, 1269 01:04:16,960 --> 01:04:18,720 Speaker 1: with all this talk, Oh, we can't wait to see 1270 01:04:18,760 --> 01:04:21,720 Speaker 1: all the celebrations this year with the new relaxed rule. Well, 1271 01:04:21,720 --> 01:04:24,200 Speaker 1: nobody scores touchdowns on anymore, so you don't get any 1272 01:04:24,240 --> 01:04:29,120 Speaker 1: more celebrations. Get done fans, very grim. Put that on 1273 01:04:29,160 --> 01:04:32,680 Speaker 1: a T shirt slogan for the league day and I'll 1274 01:04:32,720 --> 01:04:34,720 Speaker 1: save us love those matchups. I think we'll get some 1275 01:04:34,760 --> 01:04:37,080 Speaker 1: good games. Yeah. So, so we have two more games 1276 01:04:37,080 --> 01:04:42,040 Speaker 1: to play, the Chargers at Denver and the Saints at Minnesota. 1277 01:04:42,120 --> 01:04:45,280 Speaker 1: The next time you hear from us will be on Tuesday. 1278 01:04:45,360 --> 01:04:48,520 Speaker 1: We'll we'll recap those games and have some more fun. Uh. 1279 01:04:48,680 --> 01:04:51,960 Speaker 1: Connie Fox will be back with us. UM. So that 1280 01:04:52,040 --> 01:04:56,320 Speaker 1: takes us to the end of our first UH Sunday show, 1281 01:04:56,440 --> 01:04:59,320 Speaker 1: the Flagship Show. So thank you to everyone. Show. We're 1282 01:04:59,320 --> 01:05:02,000 Speaker 1: listening post show. Great, you gotta knock. Oh I should 1283 01:05:02,240 --> 01:05:04,600 Speaker 1: before I say that, just because West isn't here and 1284 01:05:04,720 --> 01:05:08,160 Speaker 1: just like I had the honor of doing the top 1285 01:05:08,200 --> 01:05:11,600 Speaker 1: of the show after a Patriots meltdown, West not getting 1286 01:05:11,640 --> 01:05:14,760 Speaker 1: a chance to go crazy about Eli. Uh, let me 1287 01:05:14,800 --> 01:05:17,880 Speaker 1: just do a quick question. Eli Manning stinks he's the worst. 1288 01:05:18,040 --> 01:05:20,600 Speaker 1: You take away his best player. He's exposed. He is 1289 01:05:20,640 --> 01:05:24,600 Speaker 1: a terrible callter back. I love you, Chris Wesley. It's 1290 01:05:24,640 --> 01:05:27,040 Speaker 1: like game what he needed of his voice right now. 1291 01:05:27,200 --> 01:05:29,200 Speaker 1: It was like he was in the room. I'm sure 1292 01:05:29,240 --> 01:05:32,000 Speaker 1: West feels completely validated by then. All right, we'll be 1293 01:05:32,000 --> 01:05:35,720 Speaker 1: back on Tuesday with our video show. Dan Hanson signing 1294 01:05:35,720 --> 01:05:39,840 Speaker 1: off four Quiet Storm, Uh, Nick Shook, what a body? Uh, 1295 01:05:39,920 --> 01:05:52,360 Speaker 1: the Old Boss and Loose Canter behind the Glass till Tuesday.