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Shares 18 00:01:04,840 --> 00:01:08,280 Speaker 1: of Best Buy are up more than eighteen percent today. 19 00:01:08,360 --> 00:01:10,679 Speaker 1: Are you happen to be in the market for maybe 20 00:01:10,720 --> 00:01:15,280 Speaker 1: a wearable or video games, tablets, computers, TVs, drones or 21 00:01:15,440 --> 00:01:17,720 Speaker 1: connected home. Here to connect all the dots for us 22 00:01:17,760 --> 00:01:21,479 Speaker 1: as Matt Townsend, retail reporter for Bloomberg News, Matt, thanks 23 00:01:21,520 --> 00:01:24,160 Speaker 1: for coming into the studio. Tell us about Best Buy 24 00:01:24,280 --> 00:01:27,280 Speaker 1: and how did they exceed analyst estimates? Yeah, some good 25 00:01:27,280 --> 00:01:29,320 Speaker 1: news in the retail world, which has not had much 26 00:01:29,319 --> 00:01:32,240 Speaker 1: of it lately. Uh So they beat the expectations game. 27 00:01:32,880 --> 00:01:35,560 Speaker 1: You know that their own forecast for the second quarter, 28 00:01:35,600 --> 00:01:37,680 Speaker 1: where that sales would be down as much as two percent, 29 00:01:37,760 --> 00:01:40,959 Speaker 1: they actually posted a small gain, which in the world 30 00:01:40,959 --> 00:01:43,280 Speaker 1: of retail is a pretty big deal. Um. And then 31 00:01:43,319 --> 00:01:45,319 Speaker 1: they said that for the rest of the year they 32 00:01:45,360 --> 00:01:47,360 Speaker 1: expect profit to be a little bit higher than they 33 00:01:47,480 --> 00:01:51,080 Speaker 1: previously said. So forecast up and they beat expectations in 34 00:01:51,080 --> 00:01:53,920 Speaker 1: the quarter. What's really working for them, because I note 35 00:01:53,960 --> 00:01:56,600 Speaker 1: that they're best sellers are things like the Amazon Fire 36 00:01:56,680 --> 00:01:59,800 Speaker 1: TV stick for forty bucks as well as Madden NFL 37 00:02:00,320 --> 00:02:03,280 Speaker 1: seventeen for the PlayStation sixty bucks. Is that where they're 38 00:02:03,280 --> 00:02:06,360 Speaker 1: making their money. They it's across the board. I mean 39 00:02:06,360 --> 00:02:08,919 Speaker 1: they called out I mean the first of all the week, 40 00:02:08,960 --> 00:02:11,600 Speaker 1: part of the market right now is mobile phones and tablets. 41 00:02:11,639 --> 00:02:13,720 Speaker 1: So one of the things that happened in the quarter 42 00:02:13,840 --> 00:02:16,679 Speaker 1: was that that decline was less than they expected, and 43 00:02:16,720 --> 00:02:19,200 Speaker 1: they said they basically are taking more market share from competitors. 44 00:02:19,680 --> 00:02:23,720 Speaker 1: But what's really working for them? Um? Yes, things like drones, 45 00:02:24,040 --> 00:02:26,680 Speaker 1: wearables like fitbits, all the stuff you do attracts sort 46 00:02:26,720 --> 00:02:30,040 Speaker 1: of your health and activity. Um And also four K television, 47 00:02:30,040 --> 00:02:34,440 Speaker 1: which is the relatively new high extremely high deaf flat 48 00:02:34,480 --> 00:02:37,600 Speaker 1: screen televisions that are you know, priced higher than normal ones. 49 00:02:38,000 --> 00:02:40,519 Speaker 1: Talk about wearables for just a moment. For example, of 50 00:02:40,600 --> 00:02:45,160 Speaker 1: their Apple watches are on sale, the sport Watch. They're 51 00:02:45,160 --> 00:02:49,320 Speaker 1: offering them for fifty dollars, less than the regular price 52 00:02:49,400 --> 00:02:52,520 Speaker 1: of three and fifty bucks. Also they're selling obviously the 53 00:02:52,600 --> 00:02:57,360 Speaker 1: Samsung wearables as well as the Samsung virtual reality gear. 54 00:02:58,080 --> 00:03:01,680 Speaker 1: Are they hurting Apple sales by offering these things at 55 00:03:01,680 --> 00:03:07,000 Speaker 1: a discount? I would I would almost assume, or I 56 00:03:07,040 --> 00:03:09,840 Speaker 1: would speculate that Apple is okay in these discounts. That's 57 00:03:09,840 --> 00:03:12,120 Speaker 1: why usually these vendor relationships work. I mean, one of 58 00:03:12,160 --> 00:03:14,960 Speaker 1: the things about best Buy that's interesting is that, you know, 59 00:03:15,120 --> 00:03:17,000 Speaker 1: the turnaround has basically been cutting costs, and now they're 60 00:03:17,000 --> 00:03:19,000 Speaker 1: showing some growth, and what the CEO chalk that up 61 00:03:19,040 --> 00:03:22,000 Speaker 1: to is, look, we have these really strong relationships with Apple, Microsoft, 62 00:03:22,040 --> 00:03:26,280 Speaker 1: Samsung that allows us to have better assortment, better customer 63 00:03:26,320 --> 00:03:28,880 Speaker 1: service in the stores. And they see that as as 64 00:03:28,880 --> 00:03:30,919 Speaker 1: a big advantage. And you know, if you've looked back 65 00:03:31,000 --> 00:03:34,200 Speaker 1: last week, Target said they're like electronic sales were weak 66 00:03:34,280 --> 00:03:37,080 Speaker 1: and actually blamed Apple, called out Apples as the weak 67 00:03:37,120 --> 00:03:40,320 Speaker 1: link there. So it's it's potentially what's going on here 68 00:03:40,400 --> 00:03:42,080 Speaker 1: is best Buy in this sort of brick and mortar 69 00:03:42,120 --> 00:03:45,920 Speaker 1: retail world is taking share from Walmart, Target and those competitors. 70 00:03:45,960 --> 00:03:47,760 Speaker 1: So you go to best Buy if you're looking for 71 00:03:47,960 --> 00:03:52,360 Speaker 1: your d j I Phantom for quad copter, and especially 72 00:03:52,360 --> 00:03:54,520 Speaker 1: if you want it in in white. But what does 73 00:03:54,560 --> 00:03:56,560 Speaker 1: it tell you when they're offering you know, like two 74 00:03:56,640 --> 00:03:59,360 Speaker 1: hundred dollars off these things? Are they trying to just 75 00:03:59,480 --> 00:04:01,640 Speaker 1: move them out of the store or is it just 76 00:04:01,680 --> 00:04:03,800 Speaker 1: to lure you into the store so that then they 77 00:04:03,840 --> 00:04:07,400 Speaker 1: can upsell you maybe to a five dollar uh you 78 00:04:07,440 --> 00:04:10,880 Speaker 1: know version of a drone. Yeah, true, yeah, they they 79 00:04:10,880 --> 00:04:13,080 Speaker 1: are probably it's probably both fronts, but more likely it's 80 00:04:13,120 --> 00:04:15,080 Speaker 1: to get people in the door. If it's a hot item, 81 00:04:15,160 --> 00:04:16,599 Speaker 1: put a little dis kond on and get someone in 82 00:04:16,640 --> 00:04:19,000 Speaker 1: the door. But also this is August, this is when 83 00:04:19,000 --> 00:04:21,880 Speaker 1: a lot of inventors being cleared. Um. Also, I mean 84 00:04:21,880 --> 00:04:24,240 Speaker 1: it's basically back to school. It's just is starting now too, 85 00:04:24,279 --> 00:04:27,160 Speaker 1: So it could be you know, claianuce inventory for back 86 00:04:27,200 --> 00:04:30,160 Speaker 1: to school. Um. But again, you know Best Buy, it's 87 00:04:31,640 --> 00:04:34,159 Speaker 1: the big question mark has been can they return to growth? 88 00:04:34,240 --> 00:04:38,440 Speaker 1: Can they return to growth? And they've grown their comparable 89 00:04:38,480 --> 00:04:40,640 Speaker 1: store sales six out of the past eight quarters, which 90 00:04:41,200 --> 00:04:43,080 Speaker 1: you know, you wouldn't have expected two years ago, you 91 00:04:43,120 --> 00:04:45,680 Speaker 1: wouldn't have expected that. So it's it's it seems like 92 00:04:45,720 --> 00:04:47,800 Speaker 1: the right path. And they did say that, you know, 93 00:04:47,839 --> 00:04:49,560 Speaker 1: they thought the first half was gonna be a little 94 00:04:49,600 --> 00:04:51,599 Speaker 1: bit down as far as sales, and they show growth 95 00:04:51,640 --> 00:04:53,160 Speaker 1: in the second half. Now they have this growth in 96 00:04:53,200 --> 00:04:55,880 Speaker 1: the second quarter, they have you know, what looks like 97 00:04:55,960 --> 00:04:58,520 Speaker 1: a bullish quarter or second half ahead of them. One 98 00:04:58,600 --> 00:05:02,520 Speaker 1: deg reason is the new iPhone coming out, the iPhone 99 00:05:03,320 --> 00:05:06,160 Speaker 1: perhaps going to be unveiled in September. Yeah, I mean 100 00:05:06,200 --> 00:05:10,760 Speaker 1: most speculation in September. You know Best buy one comment 101 00:05:10,800 --> 00:05:13,479 Speaker 1: on that today. But a lot of their business been 102 00:05:13,520 --> 00:05:15,799 Speaker 1: driven by product cycles. So when there's a new phone 103 00:05:15,800 --> 00:05:18,279 Speaker 1: that is hot, or like when the Tabot sort of 104 00:05:18,320 --> 00:05:20,919 Speaker 1: craze happened. Best Buy has been did well, but what 105 00:05:20,960 --> 00:05:22,880 Speaker 1: we saw this quarter was that well most of the 106 00:05:22,920 --> 00:05:25,279 Speaker 1: market was down in the US and a lot of 107 00:05:25,279 --> 00:05:28,640 Speaker 1: the electronics categories best Buy wasn't um which is a 108 00:05:28,640 --> 00:05:30,880 Speaker 1: pretty positive sign. Thus one of the reasons why the 109 00:05:30,880 --> 00:05:33,080 Speaker 1: stock is up so much today. The stock up eighteen 110 00:05:33,120 --> 00:05:36,599 Speaker 1: percent today, up a nearly thirty percent a year to day. 111 00:05:36,720 --> 00:05:39,680 Speaker 1: Based in Richfield in Minnesota, they've got a hundred and 112 00:05:39,680 --> 00:05:43,120 Speaker 1: twenty five thousand employees. Are they still cutting staff or 113 00:05:43,200 --> 00:05:45,440 Speaker 1: are they done with that? They're they're doing some of that. 114 00:05:45,480 --> 00:05:48,480 Speaker 1: They're they're you know, they every quarter they closed some 115 00:05:48,760 --> 00:05:52,120 Speaker 1: you know, a couple of stores here there. Um. I 116 00:05:52,120 --> 00:05:53,960 Speaker 1: think compared to a year ago, they have twenty last 117 00:05:53,960 --> 00:05:55,679 Speaker 1: stores in the US, which is they still have a 118 00:05:55,720 --> 00:05:58,800 Speaker 1: boatload of stores in the US. But the big cost 119 00:05:58,839 --> 00:06:02,120 Speaker 1: cutting is mainly over the first phase of the turnaround. 120 00:06:02,440 --> 00:06:06,720 Speaker 1: When the CEO Uber Jolie came in, he's been there 121 00:06:06,760 --> 00:06:09,320 Speaker 1: a little over three years now. Was that too big 122 00:06:09,320 --> 00:06:12,640 Speaker 1: of a company to bloated cost rationalize certain parts of 123 00:06:12,640 --> 00:06:14,840 Speaker 1: the business. They sold off all their foreign divisions except 124 00:06:14,880 --> 00:06:18,919 Speaker 1: for Canada, and now it's can they really show growth 125 00:06:18,920 --> 00:06:21,960 Speaker 1: in the US, which is basically their business. Now it's 126 00:06:21,960 --> 00:06:24,599 Speaker 1: a forty billion dollar a year business. For you know, 127 00:06:24,640 --> 00:06:26,760 Speaker 1: as much as people talk about Amazon everything, I mean, 128 00:06:26,880 --> 00:06:29,960 Speaker 1: best Buy still turns out forty billion dollars worth of sales. 129 00:06:30,000 --> 00:06:31,520 Speaker 1: I mean, think about that. That's a lot of money. 130 00:06:31,720 --> 00:06:33,480 Speaker 1: That's a lot, that's a big that's a big chunk 131 00:06:33,480 --> 00:06:35,760 Speaker 1: of the market that they still own. And as far 132 00:06:35,800 --> 00:06:37,039 Speaker 1: as if you have a look at the brick and 133 00:06:37,080 --> 00:06:40,920 Speaker 1: water environment, they don't have competition. I mean, yes to 134 00:06:41,000 --> 00:06:44,280 Speaker 1: people go to Walmart and Costco and and Target to 135 00:06:44,320 --> 00:06:50,200 Speaker 1: buy business in the electronics field from Walmart and from 136 00:06:50,400 --> 00:06:52,240 Speaker 1: some of those big box retailer and as far as 137 00:06:52,320 --> 00:06:56,320 Speaker 1: especially especially electronics chain, they're the only one left. And 138 00:06:56,480 --> 00:07:00,320 Speaker 1: as as electronics is, as electronics get more complex, hated, 139 00:07:00,320 --> 00:07:03,120 Speaker 1: best Buy is betting that people will need more help, 140 00:07:03,240 --> 00:07:06,120 Speaker 1: especially in person the ramping up services that obviously have 141 00:07:06,200 --> 00:07:08,720 Speaker 1: the geek squad. So that's sort of the whole play 142 00:07:08,800 --> 00:07:11,680 Speaker 1: is to become a services company. So they sell you 143 00:07:12,800 --> 00:07:15,200 Speaker 1: a tech product and they help you put in your home, 144 00:07:15,520 --> 00:07:17,200 Speaker 1: and then they help service it throughout the life of 145 00:07:17,200 --> 00:07:18,680 Speaker 1: the product and they help you get, you know, pick 146 00:07:18,680 --> 00:07:21,920 Speaker 1: a new one. My guys out, definitely. I guess everyone't 147 00:07:21,960 --> 00:07:25,360 Speaker 1: be in line for as you said, that new iPhone seven. 148 00:07:25,640 --> 00:07:29,160 Speaker 1: iPhone seven is gonna be huge. They think, they think, yeah, 149 00:07:29,200 --> 00:07:32,160 Speaker 1: good point. Thanks very much, Matt Townsend. He is a 150 00:07:32,160 --> 00:07:36,360 Speaker 1: retail reporter for Bloomberg News, telling us about the results 151 00:07:36,360 --> 00:07:39,040 Speaker 1: of best Buy. 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