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Speaker 1: Now here's a highlight from Coast to Coast AM on iHeartRadio.

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Speaker 2: And welcome back to Coast to Coast George Nori with you.

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Speaker 2: Lynn Buchanan with US served in the US military's Controlled

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Speaker 2: Remote Viewing Unit, Project Stargate, as both a viewer and

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Speaker 2: as a trainer. Having retired from military service, he now

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Speaker 2: lives in Alamgordo, New Mexico, where his company, Problems Solutions Innovations,

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Speaker 2: is providing both controlled remote viewing training and services. Linn

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Speaker 2: Welcome back to the show. How have you been?

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Speaker 3: Okay? How about you? Last time? Oh, last time I

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Speaker 3: saw you, I was at death's door. I really honestly

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Speaker 3: didn't expect to live another month. And now then I'm

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Speaker 3: just I'm just kicking.

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Speaker 2: Good for you, my friend. Yeah, you've had a chance

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Speaker 2: to work with some of the best Ingo Swan, Paul Smith,

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Speaker 2: Russell Tarbo. Oh, Yeah, the best of the best. How

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Speaker 2: did you get involved in remote viewing in the first place?

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Speaker 3: Then? I was working in Germany as a intercept operator

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Speaker 3: and an incident happened where they wanted me to write

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Speaker 3: a computer program that would tie the computers of twelve

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Speaker 3: different countries together to share information. I wrote the program,

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Speaker 3: and this other sergeant wanted to be the one who

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Speaker 3: wrote the program, and I got the job of doing it.

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Speaker 3: And so when we had the twelve generals from all

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Speaker 3: the different countries together to see the program, the other

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Speaker 3: sergeant came in and messed it up. And I got

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Speaker 3: flaming angry when I found out about it, and the

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Speaker 3: computers of all the entire field station and everything just

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Speaker 3: blew out. I've had this p K problem all of

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Speaker 3: my life. I get angry and things, yeah, yeah, and

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Speaker 3: especially electronics, And so I got flaming angry. And anyway,

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Speaker 3: General Stubblebin, who was head of the Intelligence and Security

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Speaker 3: Command for the US, had people looking for people who

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Speaker 3: could do things like that, and so one of them

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Speaker 3: happened to be in the room at the time. Uh

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Speaker 3: So I saw what happened and understood what happened and

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Speaker 3: reported me to the General, and so he took me

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Speaker 3: to Fort Meade and put me into this remote viewing unit. Now,

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Speaker 3: what he wanted to do was have me start a

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Speaker 3: unit that would learn how to destroy enemy computers or

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Speaker 3: with the end goal of controlling the enemy computers so

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Speaker 3: that if they fired a missile at US, we could

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Speaker 3: drop it into the sea or make it turn around

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Speaker 3: and go back at them.

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Speaker 2: What was this all happening to?

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Speaker 3: That was in ninety two, nineteen ninety two, not really

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Speaker 3: that long ago, No, not really. No, the remote Viewing

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Speaker 3: unit had been in operation for about ten years before

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Speaker 3: I got there.

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Speaker 2: Oh okay, and what a unit it was, wasn't it?

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Speaker 3: It was? You know? They they sent me to the

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Speaker 3: unit and because they wouldn't fund Congress wouldn't fund the

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Speaker 3: thing to do control of anyway computers because they said, well,

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Speaker 3: let's mind control, and we're not going to have any

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Speaker 3: of that anymore. They got caught for that in the sixties.

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Speaker 3: And so he stepped me into the remote Viewing unit

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Speaker 3: and I went in. They read me on which is

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Speaker 3: you know, where they tell you what they really do,

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Speaker 3: not what they tell the public what they do. And

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Speaker 3: I thought, this is crazy. The military doesn't do psychic work.

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Speaker 3: It gets serious. And sure enough they did.

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Speaker 2: In a big way too. Did you have this ability

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Speaker 2: then when you were a kid?

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Speaker 1: Oh?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, It's been with me all my life.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, primarily instigated when when you showed you temper.

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Speaker 3: The peak he does you know? Uh? And so I

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Speaker 3: have made it a lifelong habit to just sort of

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Speaker 2: What did your parents say to you about this?

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Speaker 3: My mother was all for it was she wasbury intuitive herself,

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Speaker 3: and my father just sort of denied the fact that

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Speaker 2: Did he think it was mumbo jumbo? Oh yeah, Well

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Speaker 2: we know better than that now, don't we.

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Speaker 2: Why do you think the military stopped the program? Or

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Speaker 2: at least we think they stopped it.

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Speaker 3: Well, we think they stopped you. In Washington, d C.

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Speaker 3: They say there are two answers for any question you

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Speaker 3: is money. And when the Cold War ended, the money

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Speaker 3: was draining away, and so they had to get rid

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Speaker 3: risking his life in the field for ten or fifteen years,

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Speaker 3: or those crazy psychics out at Fort made you get

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Speaker 3: rid of the crazy psychics? Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Did you know my aunt that Ingo knew Shaffika curregula?

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Speaker 3: No, it didn't.

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Speaker 2: They had a fond affection for each other, not that,

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Speaker 2: not ah, really not a dating thing, but just a respect.

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Speaker 2: But she was a psychiatrist and devoted her entire practice

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Speaker 2: to tell up the tell like anesis. And somehow I bet.

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Speaker 3: She had fun with inga then Oh my god.

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Speaker 2: Great time. But what was the was the military doing

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Speaker 2: this because the Russians might have been doing it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, the Russians had it first. Uh. Back when I

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Speaker 3: was in Russian school, one of my teachers had defected

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Speaker 3: from Russia and she had been in a unit. This

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Speaker 3: is before I knew anything about us. Happened in a

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Speaker 3: unit she had been in. The unit that she said

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Speaker 3: came from Adolf Hitler's project. Doctor Grunbaum. Green Tree, which

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Speaker 3: Jewish Kabbalah Hebrew mysticism, and Hitler was really into that.

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Speaker 3: And Hitler was developing psychic spies. And so when he

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Speaker 3: the nuclear scientists and the rocketry. Nobody wanted doctor Grenbaum

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Speaker 3: except Russia. Russia took it and started developing it, and

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Speaker 3: by the sixties they were getting all of our top

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Speaker 3: nobody could find out how. And finally a Russian colonel

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Speaker 3: in the case gb UH tried to defect and he

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Speaker 3: brought the paperwork that showed our intelligence services that they've

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Speaker 3: been using these sacic spies, and you know, everybody wanted

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Speaker 3: to laugh at that, but then they started reading the

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Speaker 2: Works and was pretty high, wasn't it.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, And so the you know, the intelligence service

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Speaker 3: didn't laugh all that often, and so they said, well, hey,

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Speaker 3: if it works, we got to have it too, And

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Speaker 3: that's what started the original UH unit that wound up

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Speaker 2: Did they do some pretty remarkable things.

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Speaker 3: The Russians or the answers? The answer yes either way.

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Speaker 2: Of the remote viewers that we know of, who are

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Speaker 2: some of the best, the ones we know.

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Speaker 3: Joe mcmonagle, and well, let me say it this way.

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Speaker 3: Everybody has their own strengths and weaknesses, and so who

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Speaker 3: is best determines is you know, any project determines the

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Speaker 3: needs is determined by the needs of the project. Because

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Speaker 3: on one project, one viewer maybe the one who gets

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Speaker 3: the answer every time, or the others don't or another

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Speaker 3: type of project, it'll be someone else. And so we

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Speaker 3: had one director who kept trying to pit us against

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Speaker 3: each other to see who was the best, and it

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Speaker 3: never worked because the answer to whose best was each

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Speaker 2: Remarkable. Now, let's apply this to civilian use for a second, lend.

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Speaker 2: Is it still going on now professionally?

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Speaker 3: Sure? Yeah, and in fact it's spreading. I've been teaching

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Speaker 3: it ever since it became declassified, and now then many

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Speaker 3: of my students are out there teaching it.

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Speaker 2: And I think Paul Smith was doing that too for

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Speaker 2: a while, wasn't he.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Yeah, and Dames and Dave Morehouse, and you should

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Speaker 3: see some of the work that the students are doing

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Speaker 3: these days. The International Remote Viewers Association, which i'm a

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Speaker 3: now had a contest to see which teacher had the

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Speaker 3: best students and all this. And my student, guy named

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Speaker 3: Michael Ronaldi, took the picture of the top of a building,

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Speaker 3: and this was following the thing that Joe mcmonagall did

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Speaker 3: picture he drew the four plans of the building inside,

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Speaker 3: four plans for that building. And you know this was

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Speaker 3: Joe mc monaco had done that with the boom or

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Speaker 3: submarine when they were developing that, and it had also

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Speaker 3: been done when rescuing General Doser from the Red Brigade

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Speaker 3: the general could be rescued without getting him killed. And

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Speaker 3: nowadays we have some students that are doing a lot

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Speaker 3: better than we ever did in the military. I mean,

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Speaker 3: they are getting really good. Why is that, Well, you

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Speaker 3: can say Shelderrex hundredth monkey theory. You can say you

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Speaker 3: or you can say just hey, we're lucky to have

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Speaker 3: some really good people. We have found that the Englishwan

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Speaker 3: technique is not in and of itself psychic. What it

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Speaker 3: is is a methodology that teaches you how to use

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Speaker 3: what psychic ability you have. And now they're out in

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Speaker 3: the civilian arena, we're finding some really really good psychics

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Speaker 3: teaching them how to use it in a structured manner.

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Speaker 3: And you should see some of the work they're doing.

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Speaker 3: It is phenomenal, It really.

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Speaker 2: Is, Linn. Can you remote view in the dream state?

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Speaker 3: Sure? Yeah, in fact most people do. I think.

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Speaker 2: My daughter had a nine to eleven remote viewing episode.

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Speaker 2: Then she saw what happened. Oh yeah, she saw the

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Speaker 2: remnants of the ashes falling and everything and called me

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Speaker 2: up and described it. Well, this was before it happened,

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Speaker 2: and then what had happened. About a week or two later,

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Speaker 2: she called me back up and said, Dad, are you

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Speaker 2: watching television? Look what's going on? Yes, my dream, But

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Speaker 3: And you know a lot of dreams are prophetic. Some

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Speaker 3: people make the mistake of saying I dreamed it, therefore

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Speaker 3: I caused it to happen, and that's not true. You know,

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Speaker 3: you can see the future. In fact, I forget where

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Speaker 3: the study was done, but I remember reading about a

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Speaker 3: study that had been done on remote viewers and psychics

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Speaker 3: on their brain waves, you know, the cat scans and everything, uh,

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Speaker 3: to see what parts of the brain are active and

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Speaker 3: when they're on target and correctly doing work. The same

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Speaker 3: parts of the brain that are active are the same

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Speaker 3: parts as when you're remembering something and so the end

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Speaker 3: result of that study was that we don't predict the future,

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Speaker 2: How do you train somebody then to be a remote viewer?

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Speaker 3: Pretty well, no, the training is slow in the controlled

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Speaker 3: remote viewing. Now, the controlled remote viewing is the military style,

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Speaker 3: vastly different from most of the things you find on

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Speaker 3: the internet where they say we're teaching you to remote

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Speaker 3: view and they will give you a take to listen

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Speaker 3: to and put your remote viewer, or you know, the

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Speaker 3: take you to a three day class and both you're

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Speaker 3: a remote viewer. The military method takes it well, it's

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Speaker 3: overcomes all of your natural tendencies to use logic, to

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Speaker 3: just go for the pure truth that your subconscious mind knows.

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Speaker 3: And so it's a long process. You learn how to

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Speaker 3: You practice, and you know, my students get tired of

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