Speaker 1: Hey everybody, It's Wednesday, June nineteenth, twenty twenty four. Welcome
Speaker 1: to the NFL Fantasy Football Podcast, where we're doubling down
Speaker 1: on the week. It's me and man MG Marcus Grand
Speaker 1: joined by Michael Florio and Lakwan Jones. We have to
Speaker 1: be in studio. We're we're all together in person.
Speaker 2: Which never happened for the first time in a while,
Speaker 2: Like that never happens.
Speaker 1: And also we're actually here in the podcast studio. We
Speaker 1: we got upgrade.
Speaker 3: Is it an upgrade from our lounge? I don't know.
Speaker 4: I like the batcave though.
Speaker 3: Batcave's kind of nice. It's kind of nice.
Speaker 2: It's very nice in here. The lounge is kind of
Speaker 2: our place though.
Speaker 3: It's like where we hang out it is.
Speaker 1: It's it's our spot, except that they started subletting it
Speaker 1: out to other people right like you know, like we
Speaker 1: we built this place, we decorated it, we got all
Speaker 1: settled in, and then like all of a sudden, we got.
Speaker 3: Like squatters short.
Speaker 2: They gave us that because they didn't want to see
Speaker 2: it was in a year. Now they're pushing us in
Speaker 2: here because they don't want us in there.
Speaker 1: You know, It's like suddenly you live downtown and everything's great,
Speaker 1: and they raise the rent, so you move to the suburbs,
Speaker 1: and everybody starts showing up in the suburbs, so you
Speaker 1: got to.
Speaker 3: Move back downtown again. Wow.
Speaker 1: Anyway, here we are not of that. Yeah, we are
Speaker 1: here with you for a second time this week. We
Speaker 1: also are still planning to do the cheat sheet later
Speaker 1: on in the week as well.
Speaker 3: Are you watching The Big Lebowski by the way, Oh.
Speaker 2: Yes, Okay, me and Nick let are gonna watch it tonight.
Speaker 1: All right, awesome, you're not gonna be here for it, right,
Speaker 1: I'm still gonnat you should watch The Big Lebowski just
Speaker 1: because you should just be in the comment because as.
Speaker 3: A general rule, you should just watch The Big Labowski.
Speaker 3: Where are you gonna be? I'm going to be in Tampa, Tampa.
Speaker 4: Wow, I got my buddy's birthday party. Okay, we're doing
Speaker 4: a little so by the time he hears.
Speaker 2: I thought the races needn't help it short, I surprisingly
Speaker 2: know a decent amount of food options in Tampa, so
Speaker 2: old talk, Alf, we got to talk Alf.
Speaker 1: I hear they have great Cuban food in Tampa. Okay,
Speaker 1: that's no idea. I've never been.
Speaker 2: I go to like I know, like a good wing
Speaker 2: spot and a couple of like I go to the
Speaker 2: same few plays. My parents live down in Tampa, so
Speaker 2: anytime I go down there, I go to the same
Speaker 2: few spots.
Speaker 4: I need some wing spots. So we'll definitely need chat.
Speaker 3: All right.
Speaker 1: I mean, we had things to chat about on the show.
Speaker 1: By the way, if you did not check out yesterday's show,
Speaker 1: be sure to go do that. We had Judy Batista
Speaker 1: on a lot of great stuff about the Jets, the Giants,
Speaker 1: and the Patriots to maybe help you with some drafting.
Speaker 1: We'll also talk about some ADPs and some movers and
Speaker 1: whether or not we feel comfortable with the guys at
Speaker 1: certain spots.
Speaker 3: With that a little bit later on.
Speaker 1: In the show, but in the meantime, let's get started
Speaker 1: with a little bit of news.
Speaker 3: I guess this qualifies as news. Maybe it's more rumor
Speaker 3: and innu window. Brandon Ayuk on social media posted a
Speaker 3: video where he was talking to Jade and Daniels. Of course,
Speaker 3: the two of them have a connection from when they
Speaker 3: played together at Arizona State. Briefly, and what Ayuk said
Speaker 3: to Daniels was quote, they don't want me back, which
Speaker 3: obviously is a reference apparently, at least we believe to
Speaker 3: the forty nine ers now, I mean, I don't know,
Speaker 3: maybe he was talking about the guys in his text
Speaker 3: chain or something like that. I mean, we really have
Speaker 3: no idea.
Speaker 1: We assume it's about the forty nine ers, right, that
Speaker 1: they don't want him back. One look on, do you
Speaker 1: believe the Niners will actually trade Ayuk? Because we've sort
Speaker 1: of been on this train for a while now, And
Speaker 1: if so, what is a good landing spot for.
Speaker 3: Him as the resident forty nine er hater. That's why
Speaker 3: I I hope they trade. That's why I asked you first.
Speaker 4: I don't know, man, I don't think that's the right move,
Speaker 4: trading Ayuk when you had brock Party playing so well
Speaker 4: and being that Brandon Ayuk is a great route runner
Speaker 4: and getting open kind of helping this young quarterback move
Speaker 4: to move the change. So I don't know, man, I
Speaker 4: feel as though they would probably have to rethink this one,
Speaker 4: because I honestly think it's a mistake.
Speaker 1: One do you think if they mistake? If they do,
Speaker 1: and where where would you like to see him go?
Speaker 1: If they do? I think it is a mistake. And
Speaker 1: I think there is.
Speaker 2: I would be shocked if he's not playing for the
Speaker 2: forty nine ers next year. I think Brandon Nyuk wants
Speaker 2: out because he wants to get paid rather than playing
Speaker 2: on this one year deal and all that. But remember
Speaker 2: like two off seasons ago, at this point, Deebo Samuel
Speaker 2: was literally in the club in San Francisco like, I
Speaker 2: will not be here now, and then they figure that out.
Speaker 2: So I think if you're the forty nine ers, you're
Speaker 2: looking at it as we have two more years before
Speaker 2: we have to decide if we want to invest in
Speaker 2: brock Purty or not. So I think they pay Ayuk
Speaker 2: a bunch of money for like a one year deal,
Speaker 2: like I don't know if they come to an agreement
Speaker 2: or something like that. And then I think after this year,
Speaker 2: you have to make really hard decisions, which one do
Speaker 2: you want to keep Ayuk or Debo and and other
Speaker 2: do you want to invest in Purdy? A whole bunch
Speaker 2: of lots of decisions they're going to have to make.
Speaker 2: But I think this year you're looking at it as
Speaker 2: we still have our Super Bowl window and we're gonna
Speaker 2: go all in and Ayuk that means you're going to
Speaker 2: be here. I'm not downgrading him at all for fantasy,
Speaker 2: but I will say, if you think he's going to
Speaker 2: get moved, Ricky Piersoll at wide receiver sixty six.
Speaker 3: Is a really good value right now.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I one, I think in Dynasty, Pearsall is a
Speaker 1: dude you want to get yes point because as you
Speaker 1: mentioned in a couple of years, one of those guys,
Speaker 1: whether it's Ayuk or Deebo, is not going to be there,
Speaker 1: which is going to open up some opportunities. I think
Speaker 1: is gonna still be there. I don't think they're gonna
Speaker 1: trade him. I think I think he's frustrated. I think
Speaker 1: these are the things that happen in June. You know,
Speaker 1: this is this is sort of a kin to you know,
Speaker 1: scrubbing your social media of your team. Which side note,
Speaker 1: it's been a rough week for Bay Area fans. You
Speaker 1: got Klay Thompson taking all the warrior stuff off his Instagram.
Speaker 2: I don't get that, Like it's a move you you
Speaker 2: had a great run with this, like just right, just
Speaker 2: letting Also, I feel like this is just Clay being Clay.
Speaker 1: He's kind of a different cat. Like I mean, there's
Speaker 1: a dude who like he's upset, at least he's kind
Speaker 1: of like seems like he's upset, but he also takes
Speaker 1: a boat to games like he's just a different legend there.
Speaker 3: It is kind of nice, right, So I'm not really
Speaker 3: worried about that.
Speaker 1: But but in that respect, it's been a rough week
Speaker 1: for Bay Area fans, sports fans with the you know,
Speaker 1: star players on social media. I don't think the Niners
Speaker 1: are gonna trade him because, especially at this late date,
Speaker 1: what are you gonna get in return?
Speaker 3: Right?
Speaker 1: I mean the trade value is gonna be a lot
Speaker 1: less than had you done this, say around the draft
Speaker 1: or something.
Speaker 2: All the wide receiver needy teams, like we were saying,
Speaker 2: the Chiefs, the Bills, like they they all went out
Speaker 2: and addressed the water. Now, I don't think they would
Speaker 2: turn down Ayuk if the opportunity arose, but they're not
Speaker 2: as I don't think they'll be as willing to pay
Speaker 2: a ton to get him.
Speaker 3: Now. I think that's the thing.
Speaker 1: If you're the Niners you're gonna get you're gonna get
Speaker 1: a lot less in return than you would have gotten
Speaker 1: a couple of months ago. So I don't think he's
Speaker 1: going to get traded if for whatever reason it happens,
Speaker 1: and look Auk has suggested this. Daniel Jeremiah on Twitter
Speaker 1: suggested this Pittsburgh could be a really good spot for him.
Speaker 1: Put him alongside George Pickens kind of have them as
Speaker 1: a nice one too. I do still believe that Russell
Speaker 1: Wilson has something left. Yeah, he's obviously not the guy
Speaker 1: he was in Seattle, but I think he's better than
Speaker 1: what he was in Denver. I think there's still something left.
Speaker 1: You put him with the Steelers that works really really
Speaker 1: well in that off that division scary too. It makes
Speaker 1: that division really hard knocks. Yeah, hard kN AFC North.
Speaker 1: How do we feel about this?
Speaker 4: But I get to see Lamar Jackson. I'm happy. That's
Speaker 4: all I really.
Speaker 3: Want to watch. I mean, there are lots of ways
Speaker 3: to watch Lamar.
Speaker 4: I get to see him on HD all right, and
Speaker 4: get to see his personality.
Speaker 1: I'm very curious because like it's like all hard knocks
Speaker 1: all the time, Because we have like the off season
Speaker 1: hard knocks with the Giants, then we got the you know,
Speaker 1: the pre season hard knocks with the Bears and love
Speaker 1: the preseason ones preseason, and then we have n season
Speaker 1: hard knocks with the the AFC North in.
Speaker 2: Season, It's hard for me to dedicate the time when
Speaker 2: I'm already dedicating so much of my time to watching
Speaker 2: football three four nights.
Speaker 1: I'm waiting for Hard Knocks. Schedule release, that's what it's
Speaker 1: gonna happen. Oh man, I'm gonna get that soon. It's
Speaker 1: gonna happen. It's gonna happen for sure. I mean, look,
Speaker 1: there are not people who love schedule release, right. We
Speaker 1: hear at this network do like a two hour show
Speaker 1: on because people love it. If they did, like a
Speaker 1: Hard Knocks on it, that showed you like how it works, Like, I.
Speaker 3: Guarantee you there are some people out there who would
Speaker 3: watch that.
Speaker 1: As le Kwan raises his hand a right, speaking of
Speaker 1: the AFC, nor T Higgins will sign his franchise tag
Speaker 1: and he will report for training camp. So you manel
Speaker 1: Jamar Chase is there. They drafted Jermaine Burton. Now T
Speaker 1: Higgins is going to be there Florida. Does this have
Speaker 1: any impact on where you are drafting Bengals wide receivers
Speaker 1: or were you sort of assuming this was gonna happen anyway?
Speaker 2: I was assuming this was gonna happen anyway. And the
Speaker 2: Bengals receivers are some of my favorite to target right now, because, yeah,
Speaker 2: you're paying full price for Jamar Chase, I get that,
Speaker 2: but you're getting T Higgins at probably around his floor.
Speaker 2: I would say, I know last year was a disappointing year,
Speaker 2: but prior to that, this guy's been a wide receiver
Speaker 2: too pretty much yearly. And now you're getting him at
Speaker 2: wide receiver twenty seven in early drafts. And this is
Speaker 2: my thing. Like, in those wide receivers going ahead of him,
Speaker 2: there's three Texans wide receivers two forty nine. There's two
Speaker 2: Eagles two Rams, so we have like amongst others, So
Speaker 2: we have second receivers on teams going ahead of him.
Speaker 2: But I could make the argument that T. Higgins is
Speaker 2: just as good as all of those second receivers. Joe
Speaker 2: Burrow is just as good as the quarterback throwing to
Speaker 2: all those guys. Now, I get the injury concerns with
Speaker 2: those two, which is why he's going the last of
Speaker 2: this bunch, but yeah, I'm still willing to take that
Speaker 2: risk get him as my wide receiver three.
Speaker 3: I would be ecstatic with that. Yeah, I mean, of
Speaker 3: those three, who do you like the best at ADP.
Speaker 4: Look on uh at ADP. I'm comfortable with T Higgins.
Speaker 4: I mean, you're kind of still a mystery with Jermaine Burton.
Speaker 4: I mean, obviously you're paying full price.
Speaker 3: I like him a lot.
Speaker 4: Yeah, we like Jamaine Burton a lot, but there's still
Speaker 4: question marks. So I'm going to go with the short
Speaker 4: thing of what we know, and that's T Higgins is
Speaker 4: a solid wide receiver too. And I'm attacking most of
Speaker 4: these drafts in the summer. I'm stacking up on useful,
Speaker 4: elite talent, and then T Higgins falls into that category,
Speaker 4: especially with a Bengals offense that's going to be throwing
Speaker 4: the ball a ton. If Joe Burrow's healthy, we know
Speaker 4: T Higgins and Jamar Chase can co exist on the
Speaker 4: same field and put up big Fantasy points.
Speaker 1: I you know, I have no problem drafting all three
Speaker 1: of these guys. I've drafted a lot of Jermaine Burton
Speaker 1: across Best Ball. Weirdly, I still love Jamar Chase at ADP.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I have taken him as as the wide
Speaker 1: receiver one in a couple of Best Ball drafts.
Speaker 3: Hey, as you should.
Speaker 2: I keep thinking that if if he and Burrow because
Speaker 2: remember two years ago, Chase missed about five games. Last year,
Speaker 2: Burrow was never healthy. Eventually, they're gonna stay healthy and
Speaker 2: Jamar Chase is gonna have his like video game type
Speaker 2: year like Ceedee Lamb and Tyreek Hill had last year.
Speaker 2: Jamar Chase can do all of that. Yeah, No, one
Speaker 2: hundred percent. And really it's just it's about Joe Burrow
Speaker 2: staying healthy.
Speaker 3: That's all to me. What it is. That's that's really
Speaker 3: what it is.
Speaker 1: I mean, we talked yesterday with Judy Batista and she
Speaker 1: mentioned how, uh for the Jets, you know, keeping Aaron
Speaker 1: Rodgers upright and healthy is important for the Giants. Same
Speaker 1: with Daniel Jones, keeping him upright and healthy is important.
Speaker 1: Same with Bengals, you know, and Jamar cha still was
Speaker 1: able to have a good year even with other quarterbacks there.
Speaker 3: But we know what the ceiling is have been way
Speaker 3: better than when Joe Burrow is healthy for sure.
Speaker 1: Uh, take a quick break, come back. I got a
Speaker 1: few more news headlines and we'll get into a little
Speaker 1: bit of Smash Your Pass a little bit later coming up.
Speaker 3: Here on the NFL Fantasy Football Podcast.
Speaker 1: A few more news headlines as we rolled along here.
Speaker 1: On the Wednesday edition of the Pod, dan Quinn says
Speaker 1: he has no great declarations in Washington of who his
Speaker 1: Week one starter will be. Now, mind you, this is
Speaker 1: the team that's been the number.
Speaker 3: Two over I see it.
Speaker 1: As soon as I said that, I see both Florio
Speaker 1: and mcquamack each other and just roll their eyes. The
Speaker 1: commanders spid the number two overall pick on Jaden Daniels.
Speaker 1: Marcus Mariota is the other guy in camp. They are
Speaker 1: splitting reps right now. I was gonna, I mean, I
Speaker 1: was going to ask the quest hype train or smoke
Speaker 1: screen come on, so I would look on. I will
Speaker 1: just put it to you, hype train or smoke screen
Speaker 1: on dan Quinn saying he has no great declaration.
Speaker 4: This is a smoke screen, people. I mean, he's just
Speaker 4: trying to give him Jayden Daniels to confidence through camp.
Speaker 4: He's not gonna have him walking around the building head
Speaker 4: all high like he's like he's the ish. So it's like,
Speaker 4: I gotta put something out there for the media in
Speaker 4: for you to know, like, come on, man, this is
Speaker 4: a smoke screen. This is crazy.
Speaker 1: Uh you know it's funny because I've seen his ADP
Speaker 1: rising in best Balls.
Speaker 3: I am.
Speaker 1: I'm drafting him like crazy as like a number two
Speaker 1: quarterback right now. I think he's going at like quarterback
Speaker 1: nine or ten. Are you okay with that point? We
Speaker 1: gone too far away? I mean, I know, I know
Speaker 1: you love Jayden, so I have him at.
Speaker 2: QB eleven, but you could easily convince me to flip
Speaker 2: him and brock party and that would get him to
Speaker 2: QB ten. This is what I keep saying, And like
Speaker 2: I was with Judy on Insiders last week talking about it,
Speaker 2: so definitely check that out. But he ran the last
Speaker 2: two years in college for over two thousand yards and
Speaker 2: twenty one touchdowns. I don't care what he does as
Speaker 2: a passer. He's going to run in the NFL. So
Speaker 2: he's going to be that next cheat code quarterback. And
Speaker 2: like Kyler Murray, Jalen Hurts, Lamar Jackson, Anthony Richardson, even
Speaker 2: not the first full year these guys started. Just think
Speaker 2: about the moment, Like Lamar Jackson had that final five
Speaker 2: games in twenty eighteen when he started, Jalen Hurts had
Speaker 2: that final month. They were QB ones in fantasy because
Speaker 2: of what they give you with their legs. I think
Speaker 2: Jayden Daniels is the next cheat code, and maybe if
Speaker 2: they had signed like Tara Taylor or something like that,
Speaker 2: I would say, Okay, maybe there's something to this. Marcus
Speaker 2: Mariota is the worst thrower of the football in the NFL.
Speaker 2: You're not starting him over Jaydon Danns.
Speaker 3: Is Nathan Peterman not in the NFL anymore.
Speaker 2: He somehow bounces around. I have no idea how he
Speaker 2: has more interceptions than touchdowns.
Speaker 3: In his career.
Speaker 1: So I mentioned Jayden Daniels right now is probably he's
Speaker 1: in the top ten top certainly top twelve of quarterbacks drafted,
Speaker 1: maybe pushing towards the top ten. We know the rushing
Speaker 1: upside there for him at at cost right at ADP
Speaker 1: Because Anthony Richardson right now is like.
Speaker 3: QB five or six, Who would you rather have? Lakwan?
Speaker 1: I mean we had a very small sample size of
Speaker 1: Anthony Richardson. We haven't seen Jayden Daniels yet on an
Speaker 1: NFL field. Which one would you prefer at costs? Because
Speaker 1: I think we're sort of we sort of view them in.
Speaker 4: A similar lens with the upside. I mean, I believe
Speaker 4: in Cliff Kingsbury getting you know, Jaydon Daniels activated and
Speaker 4: we go down the field. We already talked about the
Speaker 4: rushing upside, but I think this commander's offense is going
Speaker 4: to be scoring a lot, And honestly, I would rather
Speaker 4: take Jaydon Daniels if I'm going to spread out. You know,
Speaker 4: my Anthony Richardson shares across multiple leagues because the value
Speaker 4: here is incredible getting him late in those drafts as
Speaker 4: a QB too, which potentially he has top seven upside.
Speaker 4: If this offense is going to be clicking on all cylinders,
Speaker 4: and if Cliff Kingsbury is able to get the weapons,
Speaker 4: you know, like Luke mccaff reactivated, you get Terry McLaurin
Speaker 4: the alpha that he is, this this offense is going
Speaker 4: to be to the moon. If you know Jayden Daniels
Speaker 4: can go out there and execute this game plan.
Speaker 3: I love dang. I've been drafting both.
Speaker 1: I was a recently I was reading something that got
Speaker 1: me a little bit nervous about Anthony Richardson. Derek Clausen,
Speaker 1: who does a lot of great work a lot of
Speaker 1: QB charting, was also partnered up with our pal Matt
Speaker 1: Harmon over at Reception. Perception just released a bunch of
Speaker 1: profiles on second year quarterbacks. You know, so you had Richardson,
Speaker 1: you had c. J. Stroud, you had Bryce Young. I'm
Speaker 1: missing one. Levis Well Levis, yes, right, his his his
Speaker 1: evaluation of Anthony Richardson concerned me from the passing standpoint.
Speaker 1: And look, he admitted that, yes, it was a very
Speaker 1: small sample size, but you sort of adjust his accuracy
Speaker 1: ratings for uh, you know, to kind of compare a
Speaker 1: little bit, and he came out as maybe the worst
Speaker 1: of the four by a pretty good margin. That worries
Speaker 1: me a little bit. We know the rushing upside is there.
Speaker 1: Why I love Daniels is because I feel like he's
Speaker 1: a more polished passer at this point than Richardson was.
Speaker 3: In fact, you look at you back to look at
Speaker 3: Richardson's college stats.
Speaker 1: Only had one year as a true starter at Florida
Speaker 1: over for twenty five hundred yards. Yeah, you compare that
Speaker 1: to Daniels, who had three seasons with over two thousand
Speaker 1: yards he had or three seasons with over twenty five
Speaker 1: hundred yards. See twenty nine hundred is first year at
Speaker 1: Arizona State, twenty nine hundred his first year at LSU
Speaker 1: in twenty twenty two and then thirty eight hundred last
Speaker 1: year at LSU. You know, mind you he probably had
Speaker 1: some better receivers at LSU than than Richardson had at Florida,
Speaker 1: but the passing numbers were so significantly better. Then you
Speaker 1: combine that with the rushing numbers as well. I'm starting
Speaker 1: to lean more on the Daniels side of things than Richardson.
Speaker 2: Let's go, I'm still on Richardson. I like Daniels a lot.
Speaker 2: My thing is, I don't want to say I don't
Speaker 2: care about what he did last year, but it was
Speaker 2: two games, as like two full games that we got
Speaker 2: out of him, so to me, and the knock was like, hey,
Speaker 2: it's gonna take him a little bit to figure it
Speaker 2: out as a passer. So now we get he gets
Speaker 2: the full offseason with the Colts where he knows he's
Speaker 2: the starter. I have way more confidence in Shane Steichen,
Speaker 2: who got a lot out of the Colts passing game
Speaker 2: last year even after Richardson went down. And I would
Speaker 2: expect Daniels to be more polished right now because he's
Speaker 2: two years older. No, Richardson being younger, already has NFL experience.
Speaker 2: He is the most physically gifted outside of maybe like
Speaker 2: Mahomes and Josh Allen. He is the most physically gifted
Speaker 2: quarterback in the NFL, I would say, and his upside
Speaker 2: is VQB one and like running away with it video
Speaker 2: games style, I would say. So that's why I'm a
Speaker 2: sucker for him. But if you don't want to pay
Speaker 2: that price, you have a number of different fallbacks. You
Speaker 2: go Kyler Murray, you can go jayde and Daniels. There's
Speaker 2: a lot of good Russian quarterbacks of all right.
Speaker 1: I guess I shouldn't make it out that I'm just
Speaker 1: something like off the Richardson train, because I'm not. I'm
Speaker 1: still drafting him, and I'm you know, when he falls
Speaker 1: to me in the right spot, I'm one hundred percent
Speaker 1: great to just click on that name. Yeah, I just
Speaker 1: I'm starting to like like Daniels more at ADP.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I think either way you should take a second quarterback.
Speaker 3: Absolutely.
Speaker 1: In some cases, I'm taking three quarterbacks in Best Ball
Speaker 1: drafts right now, trying to pair them up with with
Speaker 1: receivers or with pass catchers.
Speaker 3: At some point.
Speaker 1: Speaking of quarterbacks, according to Brown's general manager Andrew Berry,
Speaker 1: Deshaun Watson is quote actually ahead of schedule in his
Speaker 1: return from shoulder injury. Floya, I feel like we haven't
Speaker 1: talked a lot about Deshaun Watson. We talk about Amari
Speaker 1: Cooper and it's always like the well, what is de
Speaker 1: Shaun Watson gonna Do we have a talk much about Watson?
Speaker 1: Are we overlooking at what? Do you have any level
Speaker 1: of expectation for him this year?
Speaker 2: I kind of I don't think we're gonna see him return.
Speaker 3: To what he used to be. I think those days
Speaker 3: are done. Yeah.
Speaker 2: I think the two year layoff and then the year
Speaker 2: where he was suspended and in and out, and then
Speaker 2: last year with the injuries, like it's just so much
Speaker 2: time removed from the game. But I have been considering
Speaker 2: maybe because last year I was big on Deshaun Watson
Speaker 2: because I was like, you get him at a QB
Speaker 2: two price, and I still thought he had the upside
Speaker 2: of potentially returning to what he used to be. Now
Speaker 2: though he's going outside the top twenty, and I'm like,
Speaker 2: he he did top eighteen Fantasy points in three of
Speaker 2: the five games he played last year, so because of
Speaker 2: what he could do as a runner, I do think
Speaker 2: he's being undervalued a little bit. But I think it's
Speaker 2: just because of the bad taste in my mouth from
Speaker 2: taking him on so many teams last year. I'm not
Speaker 2: really excited about getting him.
Speaker 3: Are you drafting him at all?
Speaker 4: Look on, No, I can't say I have. Honestly, it's
Speaker 4: not like I've been like purposely avoiding him. It's just
Speaker 4: that I have other options that I'd rather pivot to.
Speaker 4: And there's great value in guys that we mentioned before
Speaker 4: later in those drafts, like Kyler Murray, Dak Prescott, Like,
Speaker 4: those guys are the guys that I kind of like
Speaker 4: sealed the deal right there that there my QB one,
Speaker 4: and then we talked about some of the guys like
Speaker 4: Cale Williams, is you know a QB two QB three guy,
Speaker 4: you know, Jayden Daniels. We talked about, like, I just
Speaker 4: like other options in more clear situations than the Deshaun
Speaker 4: Watson where we haven't really seen him execute this round
Speaker 4: to offense to be a high scoring offense, and they're
Speaker 4: without you know, their best player and Nick Chubb. So
Speaker 4: there's also question marks about the running game and how
Speaker 4: this is going to pan out. Overall, it's an offense
Speaker 4: for Deshaun Watson be putting up big fantasy points every Sunday.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I feel like I tend to have my quarterbacks
Speaker 1: before before we even get to Watson in the threcond quarter.
Speaker 1: I am curious about.
Speaker 2: Who would you guys rather have as your QB two,
Speaker 2: Deshaun Watson or either of the guys coming off of Achilles.
Speaker 1: Uh, I would have I think I take Cousins over Watson.
Speaker 1: I don't know about Rod. I guess I would take
Speaker 1: Rogers over Watson too. I have Watson ahead of Rogers.
Speaker 1: That's I mean, that was a really hard one for me.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's kind of difficult for me. So hard, I
Speaker 3: don't know because I just for me with Rogers, it's
Speaker 3: the Achilles and the age.
Speaker 2: Yes, I will Levis over him in the draft yesterday,
Speaker 2: let's go.
Speaker 3: I'm starting to come around on will Levis a little.
Speaker 3: I'm in starting to come around on Will Levis.
Speaker 4: Welcome to the party, fellas.
Speaker 1: I mean, like, don't get super exciting, Like I'm not like, oh,
Speaker 1: and I'm not pushing the chips in one.
Speaker 2: No, No, I am big on taking him as a
Speaker 2: QB two, And like if you wait, obviously there's a
Speaker 2: lot of other QB twos that like Justin Herbert's going
Speaker 2: as a QB two. Right, But if you wait, I
Speaker 2: really like will Levis because I think it's gonna be ugly,
Speaker 2: but I think he's gonna be like this year's Jamis Winston,
Speaker 2: where he could throw thirty interceptions, but you're gonna get
Speaker 2: plenty of deep throws and chucks into the end zone.
Speaker 3: It is gonna be like, here's the name. Levis.
Speaker 1: Will be fun to watch because he is going to
Speaker 1: be He's like the new king of the yolo ball. Right,
Speaker 1: He's gonna be the new king of the yolo ball.
Speaker 1: He's gonna throw it downfield, and I mean he's got
Speaker 1: between Nuke Hopkins Calvin Ridley, he's.
Speaker 3: Got he has to catch those balls.
Speaker 1: Side note to that, because I'm assuming you're you're referring
Speaker 1: to the video that the supercut of Trevor Lawrence almost
Speaker 1: touchdowns that's around right now.
Speaker 4: I'll tell you what. Trevor Larnch would be a top
Speaker 4: five quarterback.
Speaker 1: I tell you that, all right, Yes he would, but
Speaker 1: we also have to concede that some of those catches
Speaker 1: would have taken extraordinary effort.
Speaker 2: It was a weekly game of like, is Calvin Ridley
Speaker 2: going to make a spectacular catch in the end zone.
Speaker 1: You're not. I mean, like some of those throws were
Speaker 1: dots for sure, but they were also like contested dots
Speaker 1: that would have like, yeah, if he it would have
Speaker 1: been great if he caught it, and Lawrence's stats would
Speaker 1: have looked completely different, but also would have been like
Speaker 1: it would have been weekly.
Speaker 2: Holly bleep.
Speaker 1: Did you see the Calvin Ridley catch today? Yeah? So
Speaker 1: I feel like I've seen this thing going around, right,
Speaker 1: and like a couple of times I was watching a
Speaker 1: few times and like, yeah, I mean it really is
Speaker 1: like a wish casting, like a what could what could
Speaker 1: have been? Sort of thing with that. So anyway, long
Speaker 1: story short, well, Levi's gonna throw yollow balls. Hopefully Calvin
Speaker 1: Ridley can get on the other end of those rainbows
Speaker 1: and give us a few pots of fantasy gold. Take
Speaker 1: it a right come back, We'll do a little bit
Speaker 1: of Smash your Pass talking about some middle round movers
Speaker 1: in your best ball drafts and how we like them
Speaker 1: at ADP. That's next on the NFL Fantasy Football Podcast.
Speaker 1: Time now for Drive your Draft pre is anybody the
Speaker 1: all new hybrid Toyota Camry. We are playing another round
Speaker 1: of smash or pass. Yes to the YouTube comment, that
Speaker 1: is what we are calling it. We are last week,
Speaker 1: we're talking about some big movers in the early rounds,
Speaker 1: rounds one through five. This week, I figured we'd look
Speaker 1: at some of the big movers in the middle rounds,
Speaker 1: round six through twelve, and a lot of your best drafts.
Speaker 1: Figuring that most of these are eighteen round drafts, I
Speaker 1: went and I moved the dates from June tenth to
Speaker 1: June seventeenth, so Monday to Monday, so in a week.
Speaker 1: These are some of the biggest movers in those slots.
Speaker 1: Got six guys who have made some moves. Talk about
Speaker 1: how we like whether we like them at that ADP.
Speaker 1: First one Florido Jalen Polk, who is at one forty
Speaker 1: three point two. He has gone up three point seven spots.
Speaker 1: I will tell you that I was kind of excited
Speaker 1: about him, and then we talked to Judy Batista yesterday
Speaker 1: and I'm maybe not as excited.
Speaker 3: About him as I once was. Answer.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, like, hey, man, I reserved the rights
Speaker 1: to change my mind when I gain more information. It's
Speaker 1: June right, Like we get more information, it's okay to
Speaker 1: change your mind. You don't have to stick to your
Speaker 1: priors just because you've planted the flag like after the draft.
Speaker 1: But Jalen Polk at one forty three point two, I
Speaker 1: mean you're talking late late in drafts. Are you okay
Speaker 1: with him at that spot? I?
Speaker 2: I guess, But I am not the one that is
Speaker 2: going to be drafting him because I look at who's
Speaker 2: going around there. Ricky Piersoh goes right ahead of him.
Speaker 2: I'd rather take the shot there. I trust the forty
Speaker 2: nine ers offense a lot more. Quentin Johnson goes right
Speaker 2: after him. I'm not ready to give up yet on
Speaker 2: Quintin Johnson, especially hearing them come out and say, like, ye,
Speaker 2: interesting news on Quentin john We completely misused him last
Speaker 2: year and that was something I kind of felt they
Speaker 2: were doing. But even more than that, then you get
Speaker 2: Jermaine Burton right after that. Malachi Corley goes in that range.
Speaker 2: Those are two guys that I'm very bullish on, two
Speaker 2: of my most drafted wide receivers actually. And then if
Speaker 2: I am taking a Patriots receiver, I'll wait about forty
Speaker 2: picks and take Javon Baker, who I thought was the
Speaker 2: better talent than Pope coming in. I know draft capital
Speaker 2: and all of that, and I'm not saying that Baker
Speaker 2: is going to get more opportunity, but if I'm taking
Speaker 2: a shot, I'll take it in the eighteenth round rather
Speaker 2: than in.
Speaker 3: Like the fourteenth. All right, So how are you feeling
Speaker 3: smash pass at one? Three?
Speaker 1: There?
Speaker 3: I'm going to pass.
Speaker 4: I mean, when we're looking at this Patriots all offense,
Speaker 4: there's still some question marks about it, and the last
Speaker 4: twenty five seasons, the Patriots have not had a rookie
Speaker 4: wide receiver average more than nine Fantasy points per game.
Speaker 4: So I'm gonna go with history on this side, being
Speaker 4: that we have questions with Drake May if he's a
Speaker 4: starter or not. And I don't think Jacoby Brissett can
Speaker 4: really get this offense to be Fantasy relevant. He'll be competitive,
Speaker 4: he'll be managing the game, but you're not going to
Speaker 4: get those real big pops, you know, from a wide
Speaker 4: receiver and the Patriots.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I think I'm moving toward pass now.
Speaker 3: I was.
Speaker 1: I was drafting him because I felt like, okay, look,
Speaker 1: there's it's wide open for who gets on the field
Speaker 1: and who gets targets in this offense. But you know,
Speaker 1: with the idea that Jacoby Brissette is going to be
Speaker 1: most likely the starter for the first at least month
Speaker 1: to six weeks of the season.
Speaker 3: You know, with some of the.
Speaker 1: Guys they still have there in that offense, some of
Speaker 1: the veterans they still have in that offense, maybe it's
Speaker 1: going to be a little bit harder for Polk to
Speaker 1: get on the field. You talk about Quentin Johnson kind
Speaker 1: of going in that area. I haven't drafted Quentin Johnston
Speaker 1: because I've been so busy drafting Lad mconkie. I'm so
Speaker 1: busy drafting Lad McConkie that it's like, why I can't
Speaker 1: I can't take Johnston now, Oh.
Speaker 2: The Charger stack is like insanely cheap to get.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, you know, if you want, if
Speaker 1: you want a Herbert Herbert Johnston, a Herbert mconkie stack,
Speaker 1: that's an easy, easy one to put together right now
Speaker 1: for sure. Next up Rash she Rice moving up three
Speaker 1: point one spots to seventy seven point five.
Speaker 3: Spash passed that spot of que I might.
Speaker 4: I might smash, honestly, but it's only by situational like
Speaker 4: if the guys that I really like in that range
Speaker 4: are gone, I kind of will be settling on Rice.
Speaker 4: I mean, the talent's there. We saw what he did
Speaker 4: with my homes. The chemistry is there, but there's obviously
Speaker 4: the all field issues that we're kind of like hesitanting on.
Speaker 4: But I like him, you know, being that he's in
Speaker 4: that late laid round the seventh round and if JSN
Speaker 4: and Deontay Johnson are gone, because that's kind of where
Speaker 4: the tear break off is for me where I really
Speaker 4: don't feel comfortable taking some guys as my wide receiver
Speaker 4: two or three or whatever the case may be after
Speaker 4: the seventh round. So I feel okay smashing you know Rice.
Speaker 1: There, Pauls smashing the button, the button, the draft button.
Speaker 1: I mean, I did my my Rashi Rice rant. Was
Speaker 1: it here on the cheat sheets whatever? Was a couple
Speaker 1: of weeks ago. I maybe because I'm stuck in my ways,
Speaker 1: I haven't moved off of that yet.
Speaker 3: But have you have you come around to Rashi Rice
Speaker 3: Floria at that spot? Yes?
Speaker 2: Like I like he goes right next to Deanty Johnson.
Speaker 2: I will admit I like Deontay Johnson more a whole
Speaker 2: lot more. Make that decision. I'm gonna go that way.
Speaker 2: But after that, Like if Rashie Rice had no off
Speaker 2: the field issues right now, he's going where the other
Speaker 2: Chiefs receivers are going. Markuis Brown's going wide receiver thirty two,
Speaker 2: Xavier Worthy's going thirty six. I think Rice would be
Speaker 2: right in that range with those guys even if I
Speaker 2: because I agree with a lot of your what you
Speaker 2: you said, Marcus, like, they're probably not going to generate
Speaker 2: as many quick short touches for Rice because they have
Speaker 2: the deep ball back now in the offense. They have
Speaker 2: more options there. There's another yat guy with Worthy, but
Speaker 2: Rice still was like a very high end wide receiver
Speaker 2: two at the second half of the season last year.
Speaker 2: So to get him at a wide receiver four price,
Speaker 2: I'll take the discount because the suspension fear is already
Speaker 2: kind of baked into his ADP.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and it seems like that's sort of subsiding. I
Speaker 1: don't say it's gone, but look, if you guys aren't
Speaker 1: following Drew Davenport on Twitter, I suggest you do it.
Speaker 3: He does a really good job of sort.
Speaker 1: Of breaking down kind of the legal aspects of a
Speaker 1: lot of these things, kind of giving you an idea
Speaker 1: of how things you know it's not a guarantee obviously,
Speaker 1: but kind of an idea of how things might play out.
Speaker 1: So it seems like things are sort of calming down
Speaker 1: on that respect. I'm all right, So then I'll ask
Speaker 1: you this, who would you guys rather have? Was she
Speaker 1: Rice or Christian Watson?
Speaker 3: Was she Rice? Rice? Was she Rice or jsn as
Speaker 3: Rashi Rice?
Speaker 1: Or the new hotness on the fantasy streets Jamison Williams.
Speaker 2: I would go Rice, But you know I love me
Speaker 2: some James.
Speaker 3: I know you have Jame. That's why I threw it
Speaker 3: out there.
Speaker 1: He's he's like said, he's the new hotness now, all right,
Speaker 1: dan quinn is putting out quotes.
Speaker 3: Everybody's getting all excited about him.
Speaker 2: His first normal year in the NFL is normal, which
Speaker 2: is crazy.
Speaker 1: No suspensions, no injuries, nothing, and the runway is clear.
Speaker 1: They've they've sort of moved a lot of the other
Speaker 1: pieces that could have been an obstacle to him getting
Speaker 1: on the field. He still doesn't have to contend though,
Speaker 1: with Amon ra and with Sam Laporta, and with Jamir
Speaker 1: Gibbs in a lot of ways for some of those targets.
Speaker 3: So we'll see.
Speaker 1: Curtis, Samuel and I feel like the Obi Wan Kenobi meme.
Speaker 1: That's a name I've not heard along up three point
Speaker 1: one spots ninety four point two for Curtis Samuel. I
Speaker 1: used to be a Curtis Samuel stan I was cured
Speaker 1: of that.
Speaker 3: Have you been cured of that? Lakwan?
Speaker 1: Would you draft him at that spot ninety four?
Speaker 4: Yes, I'm smashing there, just based off that tier breakoff
Speaker 4: that I talked about in that seventh round. Like after that,
Speaker 4: if I'm looking for wide receivers, I start looking at
Speaker 4: guys that I really like and guys that have a
Speaker 4: healthy situation. I mean, he had a career high with
Speaker 4: Joe Brady in twenty twenty. I'm gonna keep having the
Speaker 4: table on this because the dude created one hundred and
Speaker 4: thirty eight fantasy opportunities as targets and rushing attempts as well.
Speaker 4: So you're getting a guy that has a familiar taste
Speaker 4: of this system and knows and the OC knows how
Speaker 4: to bring the absolute best out of him having career
Speaker 4: high with him. So smashing Curtis Samuel.
Speaker 3: There are you in on Curtis Samuel right there?
Speaker 2: I'm in on him at that price because I think
Speaker 2: all of the Bills receivers right now are good value
Speaker 2: because eighty six percent of their wide ride receiver targets
Speaker 2: are vacated from last season, and Josh Allen is still
Speaker 2: the quarterback. But of the three, Curtis Samuel I think
Speaker 2: is my least favorite because I think Kean Coleman has
Speaker 2: the highest ceiling. I will admit his low is is low,
Speaker 2: and there's a wide range of outcomes there, but I
Speaker 2: do believe he is the highest upside. And then I'm
Speaker 2: a big Khalil Shakir guy as well. I think last
Speaker 2: season what he did goes under the radar. He was
Speaker 2: top two in Fantasy points per target and pro opportunity.
Speaker 2: He got more utilized in the playoffs and late in
Speaker 2: the season. Josh Allen clearly has a lot of trust
Speaker 2: in him, so I think none of them are a
Speaker 2: bad bet. But because you get Shakir like a round
Speaker 2: or two later than Samuel, he is the one that
Speaker 2: I like better of the secondary options.
Speaker 1: I I think I'm sort of out on Samuel most
Speaker 1: because it's not even about the wide receivers around him,
Speaker 1: it's about running backs that record going around him.
Speaker 3: At that spot. You got James Connor.
Speaker 1: You got Zach mash, you got Jalen Warren, you got
Speaker 1: Jonathan Brooks, you got Ramandre Stevenson, all sort of slated
Speaker 1: to go in that eighth round. You Jamison Williams just
Speaker 1: ahead of him at wide receiver. You got Tyler Lockett
Speaker 1: around later. I think it's because I've been burned, you know,
Speaker 1: for so many years. Well because for so many ye right,
Speaker 1: we kept we kept being told this story about Curtis
Speaker 1: samiuel Man. He can catch it, he can run with
Speaker 1: the football. We're gonna use him the backfield. We're gonna
Speaker 1: line himup he We're gonna line him up there. And
Speaker 1: I just I think I'm over that fallacy. Like I'm
Speaker 1: just I'm tired of being told that fairy tale where
Speaker 1: we hear that all the time and it just never
Speaker 1: works out the way we walk because it's it's like
Speaker 1: the it's the Duke Johnson.
Speaker 4: Corollary, right, Oh, Duke Johnson.
Speaker 2: Erdarol Patterson falls in right, love Duke Johnson.
Speaker 1: And my thing with Duke Johnson is that he was
Speaker 1: a good running back, but he's always on a team
Speaker 1: with better running backs. And he was a good receiver,
Speaker 1: but he's on a team with better receivers all the time.
Speaker 1: And I feel like we're sort of there with Curtis
Speaker 1: Samuel at this point where he's good enough at both things,
Speaker 1: but there are always guys on the team that do
Speaker 1: it a little bit better than him.
Speaker 2: So he's he's played seven years in the NFL and
Speaker 2: there's like one impactful season.
Speaker 1: He has one season with a thousand scrimmage yards, and
Speaker 1: that's it with Joe Brady.
Speaker 3: I mean, okay, but even then it was just kind
Speaker 3: of a mess season.
Speaker 4: He did it with Teddy Bridgewater as the quarterback. We're
Speaker 4: now talking about Josh Allen and the system where he's
Speaker 4: gonna be able to spread.
Speaker 3: The ball out.
Speaker 4: I believe in Joe Brady and the Curtis Samuel connection,
Speaker 4: just based on what we saw back in the day
Speaker 4: when he was able to bring the absolute best at him.
Speaker 3: He had a career. Hi were Robbie chosen? All right?
Speaker 3: I mean, so, so can he get to a thousand
Speaker 3: scrimming yards? Yes? How many touchdowns? Four?
Speaker 4: He is not a touchdown score or but he averaged
Speaker 4: fourteen Fantasy points per game. He had two hundred rushing yards,
Speaker 4: He had eight hundred and fifty You know, receiving yards
Speaker 4: that year with the Carolina Panthers. I think that's doable
Speaker 4: for a guy that you're getting, you know, that's possibly
Speaker 4: getting a you know, a QB upgrade with Josh Allen
Speaker 4: to bring out some of those touchdowns. But hopefully we
Speaker 4: can get Curtis Samue utilize how he was with the Panthers.
Speaker 4: All right, Yeah, I think I'd still rather take James Connor.
Speaker 2: Running backs in that range are the correct That.
Speaker 4: Is the correct answer, just based on your bill if
Speaker 4: you're if you're still deps looking for why shaver back? Now,
Speaker 4: I got to tell you the truth. Fath at the
Speaker 4: second round, seventh round, it gets that's.
Speaker 3: That's the wide receiver dead zone.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it gets gone. That is a wide receiver dead zone. Next,
Speaker 1: Chris Godwin up two point nine spots at sixty two
Speaker 1: point nine. Uh, LaQuan, you've talked a lot about Chris Godwin.
Speaker 1: I'll ask you, Florio. I mean he's back to playing
Speaker 1: in the slot again.
Speaker 3: Let's go.
Speaker 1: Uh he's in. He's you know, just in the top
Speaker 1: sixty five picks. Are you cool with Chris Godwin with
Speaker 1: that spot?
Speaker 2: I'm cool with where he's going, but I'm not going
Speaker 2: into drafts being like I want to come away with
Speaker 2: Chris Godwin.
Speaker 3: I do.
Speaker 2: I am excited that he's going back into the slot,
Speaker 2: although I have questions of like, is that going to
Speaker 2: last because they did draft Jalen McMillan, who is a
Speaker 2: slot specialist, So if he ends up being their best
Speaker 2: third wide receiver, I think they'll say, Okay, Godwin, we're
Speaker 2: gonna put you back out wide. And Godwin the last
Speaker 2: three years has been solid, but like he doesn't score
Speaker 2: a lot of touch downs for fantasy purposes, he was
Speaker 2: very boom or bus last season. Now, I know the
Speaker 2: change in OC and everything, but I'm also of the
Speaker 2: mindset that, like everything went right for Baker Mayfield last year,
Speaker 2: I would not be surprised if he took a step back.
Speaker 2: So I like Godwin. I think he's a really good
Speaker 2: wide receiver three at where you're getting him. But if
Speaker 2: I miss out on him and I end up with
Speaker 2: another receiver that goes in that range, I'm I'm not
Speaker 2: gonna be too.
Speaker 3: Upset about it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I like him there, I don't know that I've
Speaker 1: drafted him as much just because of some of the
Speaker 1: guys that are around him wide receiver wise, at least,
Speaker 1: because Deontay Johnson is still hanging around right there lad
Speaker 1: Mconkie right now, going just a few spots ahead of him.
Speaker 1: So that's sort of the reason I haven't. I'll say
Speaker 1: this if I am, If I'm trying to build something
Speaker 1: and I'm trying to put together some stacks, drafting, Chris
Speaker 1: Godwin sort of gives me an out to take Baker
Speaker 1: Mayfield later, Like if all my other stacks, if one
Speaker 1: of my other stacks doesn't come through, right, Like, if
Speaker 1: I get sniped on a quarterback somewhere and I have
Speaker 1: Chris Godwin, I feel pretty confident that I can get.
Speaker 3: Baker Mayfield later in the draft.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so he sort of gives me I drafted kind
Speaker 1: of as an insurance policy in case one of my
Speaker 1: other potential stacks go sideways.
Speaker 3: I don't know if that's an endorsement or not. Yeah,
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 1: So Yeah, Alvin Kamara has fallen down two point seven spots.
Speaker 1: He's at seventy three point five. I don't know about you, Lakwan,
Speaker 1: I have not drafted much Alvin Kamara at all. How
Speaker 1: do you feel about him? And now you know their
Speaker 1: contract situations that are sort of in the works here.
Speaker 1: I'm assuming that's why you have seen him fall a
Speaker 1: little bit still though in the top seventy five.
Speaker 3: Are you Are you cool with that?
Speaker 1: Uh?
Speaker 4: Yes and no, Like I kind of had smash on this,
Speaker 4: but then I'm thinking like past at the same time
Speaker 4: with the contract situation, so I mean, maybe they rework it.
Speaker 4: But I can't imagine Alvin Kamara at twenty nine, almost
Speaker 4: thirty years old, you know, going to another team if
Speaker 4: they do end up kicking them off. How productive is
Speaker 4: he gonna be in this offensive wherever he lands. But
Speaker 4: I think if he's still gonna be with the Saints, man,
Speaker 4: I think you could throw a flyer on him, man,
Speaker 4: because he still is gonna give you somewhat a decent
Speaker 4: workload and he has a target share that's gonna be
Speaker 4: notable in that offense. Because honestly, they didn't really go
Speaker 4: out in the draft and bringing pass catchers this offseason either.
Speaker 4: It's really still Chris Olave and Alvin Kamara.
Speaker 3: Chris O.
Speaker 1: Love is like the only Saint I've drafted. I don't
Speaker 1: know if I don't even feel great about him either.
Speaker 1: I mean, so that you don't fee great about himor
Speaker 1: is that we're all worried about Derek Carr that I know.
Speaker 2: I've long been a not a car supporter. The one
Speaker 2: thing he does well, though, is dump off.
Speaker 3: The running backs. There you go.
Speaker 2: And but but I go back and forth with Kamara
Speaker 2: because I'm like, he's gonna get all of those targets.
Speaker 2: And I had him last year. He was one of
Speaker 2: my favorite players to draft because of where you were
Speaker 2: getting him because of this pensioned discount. But if those
Speaker 2: targets do drop off, it could just become dust for
Speaker 2: Alvin Kamara. Like he really showed signs of falling off
Speaker 2: as a runner last year, he showed signs of falling
Speaker 2: off as a receiver. All of his points were from catches,
Speaker 2: like he he was one of three players in NFL
Speaker 2: history to have seventy five or more catches and not
Speaker 2: get five.
Speaker 1: Hundred receivers seventy five catches for four hundred and sixty
Speaker 1: six yards.
Speaker 3: It's bad. That is gross. Like I'm off, that is gross.
Speaker 2: I'm fine taking him where he's going, but I haven't
Speaker 2: drafted him a whole bunch because I do understand like
Speaker 2: the fears that he could just be dust and I'd
Speaker 2: rather wait a few rounds and get like Zamir White
Speaker 2: or DeAndre Swift or someone like that.
Speaker 1: I just seventy five yards for seventy five catches for
Speaker 1: four hundred and sixty six yards.
Speaker 3: Stuff like that. That made me a full point PPR
Speaker 3: super villain. It is.
Speaker 1: It's like, I will accept half point PPR. I know that,
Speaker 1: you know I say that. I understand that. Guess NFL
Speaker 1: dot com we play full point PPR. Okay, I understand.
Speaker 1: Don't don't tweet me about it. A half point I
Speaker 1: can make it.
Speaker 3: I can. I can sort of abide that, I mean,
Speaker 3: because that's just gross.
Speaker 1: Man.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's disgusting. I don't I don't want to live
Speaker 3: that way. I am not.
Speaker 1: I am not down with Kamara at that spot, the
Speaker 1: last one. And this sort of hurts my heart a
Speaker 1: little bit because I've always been a big Javonte Williams fan.
Speaker 1: He's got two point seven spots at one eight point six? Lakwan,
Speaker 1: how are are you in?
Speaker 3: You out?
Speaker 4: I am completely out, man. There is just too much
Speaker 4: going on over there in Denver. I mean, Sean Payton's
Speaker 4: mentioning way too many running backs in his press conferences.
Speaker 4: So you really don't know who's going to be the guy.
Speaker 1: Sean Payton names like every offensive skill position player.
Speaker 4: So you'll never ever really get ninety. But only six
Speaker 4: games last season where he had over fifty percent of
Speaker 4: the snap opportunity. So that's my biggest fear. But the
Speaker 4: good news in those six naps, he actually looked like
Speaker 4: the guy and had a decent workload. But it looks like,
Speaker 4: you know, they drafted you know, Audrey Estime, and then
Speaker 4: they got Blake watching there, and then Julia McLaughlin is
Speaker 4: making a bunch of camp buzz. So you gotta feel
Speaker 4: a lot of like anxiety of picking him off the
Speaker 4: board where he's going at because you really just don't
Speaker 4: know if he's gonna be able to play or if
Speaker 4: he's gonna get traded Florida.
Speaker 1: I feel about the Broncos sort of the way we've
Speaker 1: just talked about the Saints, except worse, Like, oh yeah,
Speaker 1: I think I would trust Derek Carr over any of
Speaker 1: the Broncos quarterbacks right now.
Speaker 2: The thing I keep saying about this backfield is like
Speaker 2: the key is to figure out who's going to be
Speaker 2: the passing down back, because bo Nix is a checkdown guy.
Speaker 2: Sean Payton's offense is involved more running back checkdowns than
Speaker 2: any coach in the league. The issue is samaj p
Speaker 2: Ryan is still on this roster and he was really
Speaker 2: good as a pass catcher last year. But Javonte at
Speaker 2: where he's going, I can't say I've drafted him a
Speaker 2: bunch yet, but I'm starting to warm up to it
Speaker 2: a little bit more because he's going to be two
Speaker 2: years from the knee injury now, which is where we
Speaker 2: always hear that.
Speaker 3: The burst comes back.
Speaker 2: I I and then you could like handcuff him with
Speaker 2: Julia McLaughlin, who's my favorite Broncos running back to take
Speaker 2: a shot on right now, because he's going and pick
Speaker 2: like one sixties, so you get him super cheap.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 2: If it costs more to get Javonte, I'd be firmly out.
Speaker 2: But he's going right around Devin Singletary, Brian Robinson. I'm like,
Speaker 2: that feels like the appropriate.
Speaker 3: Range for him.
Speaker 1: I gonna say, so, I was gonna I was gonna
Speaker 1: ask like Javonce or or Brian Robinson, Brian Robinson, Javonte
Speaker 1: Davante all right, Uh, all right, Davonte or Devin Singletary.
Speaker 2: Javonte just I think the upside's higher.
Speaker 3: It's kind of Singletary. I'm gonna go Singletary, all right,
Speaker 3: Javont or TJ. Spears, Tay J.
Speaker 2: Spears, I'll go Spears.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I love Spears, I love I love t J. Spears.
Speaker 1: All Right, we'll put we'll put rams fan to the
Speaker 1: test here, Javonte or Blake Blake cor honestly, like I take.
Speaker 2: Gus bust to the other the other la running, Yeah,
Speaker 2: there you go, I'll take the Thing about Devin Singletary
Speaker 2: is the last time he worked with Brian Dable. The
Speaker 2: Bills didn't run the ball once in the playoff game.
Speaker 2: That was the game where like their first, they had
Speaker 2: one rushing attempt in the first half, and it was
Speaker 2: Josh Allen.
Speaker 1: Also, when he played with Brian Dabele, he needed three
Speaker 1: forms of idea to get to the end zone. That
Speaker 1: I mean really like he had an easier time getting
Speaker 1: into the club as an underage student, yeah than he
Speaker 1: did getting.
Speaker 3: Into the end zone with Brian Dabele for sure. Uh,
Speaker 3: there you go.
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Speaker 3: Ah. That was fun. Yeah, enjoy Tampa. It's gonna be
Speaker 3: hot as you know what.
Speaker 2: Oh, it's very hot.
Speaker 3: I got shorts.
Speaker 1: I hope, so I would hope, so I would suggest
Speaker 1: you know, Linen uh wearing white loud shirt will be on. Well,
Speaker 1: that's a given for you. In the meantime, we will
Speaker 1: do the cheat sheet.
Speaker 3: We will. We will soldier on without you for the
Speaker 3: cheat sheets.
Speaker 4: I'll beat in the comments man, all right, please do.
Speaker 1: And uh yeah, we're watching The Big Lebowski. Will we
Speaker 1: talk about that on Thursday. The dude abides, the dude bides,
Speaker 1: so we'll talk about that and plenty more in the meantime.
Speaker 1: That'll do it for this edition of the NFL Fantasy
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